Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson recap the NBA Playoffs, including Gregg Popovich stepping down as San Antonio Spurs head coach, Jalen Brunson and the New York Knicks eliminating the Detroit Pistons, and much more!
01:41 - Dame was being shopped around before the injury
04:50 - Knicks win the series
18:00 - Pop steps out of coaching
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The Dame was apparently being shot around before the injury.
According to sam Amy, the relationship between Giannis and Damon
strong as at the respect level, but the imperfection of
the On Kirk pairing remained. In their second season together,
(00:24):
and with the group collectively limitations growing more evident by
the month, a conversation was luoming about whether Lillard and
the Bucks might be better off party ways they part
ways not because the ain't nobody traded for a guy
that's not gonna be able to play until twenty six,
twenty seven, So you stuck with him and he's not
gonna be able to help you.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
So now what do you do? Q? That's interesting they
just to have.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Like that's a little interesting tied that to come out
right now, Like the timing of it is this funny
to me.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
But I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Maybe they try and move down still this summer, like
you straighten things that name.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
I don't know, man, I ain't trader. How's you gonna
give me a call? How are you gonna try to
sell me a car with no mode in it?
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Because you're saying the first way they tried to come
out and already say like it was It wasn't like
a crazy tear or whatever.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
It was like you.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Know, the the I guess the minimum amount of amount
of damage it could be or whatever.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
So I don't know, man, I don't know. It's gonna
it's gonna be interesting.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
I mean, like, like I say, unless unless Janni's come
in and say something.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
It's gonna be real interesting to see.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
What goes on over there, because I know the last
thing they gonna do they not coming at offering no
trade for Jannis.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
I don't oh no, no, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
But see that was the most shocking thing about the
Luca trade. You could then't request to be traded. If
we go back and study history, guys that have been moved,
they wanted to be moved. Kareem wanted to be moved.
Shaq wanted his money. Jared Buss didn't want to give
him his money. He was starting to age, and he said, no,
I'm gonna move you. So when you look at it,
(02:02):
Luca is twenty five, he had just turned me about
to turn twenty six. He was in the league eight years,
he was a five time first team All NBA selection,
and he got moved.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
So normally guys don't move guys like that.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
You're not moving yais unless he says, come movement, You
don't move KD. Unless KD says move me, you don't
move A Lebron. Lebron has never, never asked to be traded.
Lebron has always played out of his played his contract
out and then he's left. But when you get guys
like that, Celtics on trade Jason Tatum unless Jayson Tatum
says I want to be traded. You see Donovan Mitchell
(02:39):
Utap moved him Why because he said he wanted to go. Yeah,
He's really that simple. You Nightcapp family. Let's give it
up for Q. Thank him for joining us. Go follow
him at Q rich and his podcast at Knucklehead's podcast.
Q Man, thank you for your time, Thanks for joining
(02:59):
us to break down these game and talk all things basketball.
Congratulations on the podcast, Keep growing, keep doing your thing.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
All right back with us. Thank A'm gouty here. I
gotta say one thing to you, Michael Jeffrey Jordan is
to go. I'm not gonna plade it, I'm not gonna
argue it.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Okay, what it is? Jalen Bronson game went over the pistons,
What a shot? What the moment?
Speaker 1 (03:23):
The next window series? Rob you one of the great
clutch shot shooters. Let me ask you this. I think
for our audience, they want to know in that moment,
are you thinking, like, man, if I make this shot
on a hero, if I miss it, or you just
going through the It's the same whether the moment is
there or not. It's just like if it was the
first quarter, the second quarter, third quarter. What goes through
(03:43):
your head when you're taking a shot that could potentially
win you the game or lose you the game?
Speaker 4 (03:49):
Y know, I think about anything, man, because it's just
like when you're in a gym. You're taking all these
shots and prepare for this moment. You put the reps
in and that's what you gotta do. That's why you
see guys. You know you take Kobe Fence's He's been
the gym twenty four to seven, so everything came easy.
And if you put in the time, in the work
and the sacrifice, these moments like this, you don't even
(04:10):
think about it. When you think about Jalen Brunson, most
guys they like going to their offhand to pull up
for they jumps out because you can square up a
little bit better. He got you going left like you thought,
Oh he's a strong left guy. He was setting them up.
He said it, Thompson up, I'm coming right back over
here to what I want to knock down this three.
So it's just it's just a process that you go
(04:31):
through each and every day, and you watch him. He
is so good at manipulating the defense. He can get
you on your hip and then he can cost the
contact or he can get you. He can he can
gauge your speed if you're going too fast, he stops
on the diamond, pulls up, and I think for him
and any any guy who's playing this game long enough.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
You don't think about it. You just do it. It's
just a second nation, second nature thing to you. Man.
You just you just enjoyed the moment and you just
hope that you make that month. So you can talk
a lot of shit.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
He does a great job rob as you mentioned, but
he gets his body in such a position to shoot
that shot because like you said, he's a left handed player,
and most left handed players are left hand dominant. They're
trying to get to that left side. They want to
go left. He did that and then if you notice
he stepped back and squared himself and let it go.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
He hit a shrewter. He got an and one on shooter,
and he got a tough step back.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
He I mean the way he can like get his
body in position to take and make tough shots.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
For a guy his size. He is not a big guy.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
I mean his body. I mean, you know what I'm saying.
He's you know, he got a little little gird to him.
You know, he got some but he's what you think
six foot. I think he's about six six one hit that,
but his ability and he's stronger than you think for
a guy his size, because the way he can like
put that that sholder in your chest and get and
(05:58):
get that shot off, float on square himself in the
knock these shots down.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
He was sensatial.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
They couldn't buy a basket for the first nine ten
minutes of the ball game, and then all of a
sudden he said, man, just give me the ball. What
y'all doing? And every shot that needed to be taken
and made. Now they got a huge tip in by
bridge and somebody missed the shot and they didn't block
out the bridges got the tip that tied it up.
But you know, once they missed that shot, said, boy,
(06:24):
y'all better get this ball. Because Thompson had just made
a great defensive play up like two possessions earlier, he
got a shot clock violation on the copy. He went
to go up and he stripped him with the ball.
He's like, yeah, Russell, I got something for you.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
Hold, I got a question you for for rob Man
for you and Unk right, is as great as Jalen
Brunson was in this series, as great as he's been
obviously being a very very clutch player.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Hell, he's just one NBA CUSS Player of the Year right.
Speaker 5 (06:54):
On this offensive prow tonight with forty, Is there any
chance y'all give me the Knicks and in this series
against the Celtics, any chance?
Speaker 3 (07:03):
No, No, no, no.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
And the reason I say no is because when you
look at the Celtics, they got six guys that can score,
and every time I look at the Nicks, they.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Remind me of Ai.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
You know, they got this one guy that does all
the scoring and everybody else does two or three things
really really good. To make that pie hole and do
you take out Bridge? It's one of my favorite players
when they use him and he's able to score. They're
a totally different team. But I just think the Celtics
has too much firepower. And one of the things they
don't talk about what the Celtics is.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
You look at them.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
They got four good defensive players out there in that court,
you know, and that's and and we don't talk about
that because we so caught up.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
In all the threes they do.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
But you think about, you know, White, Holiday, even Brown,
these guys are fucking good defense. And so they got
bodies to throw at Bronson a little short down and
so that's gonna be hard. And you know, going back
to Brunton, the one thing that makes him really good
is this is gonna sound really crazy, is left handed
players are always uh and have that ability to get
(08:08):
to the line and do things because you cannot use that.
You holler every run across a left pended player. You
think about Mono, do you know we're gonna play with
He was so good because you think he's about to
do someone is right here, like, oh shit, he's left handed.
And by the time you think about it, he donna
change you up. And because it's just not what you
use is uncommon. But I just think he I think
the Knicks might win one game because they play hard,
(08:31):
and I think overall, I just think the Celtic, Yeah,
it's gonna be a gentleman, sweet man. I just think
that if the Celtics stay healthy. But you know they
they've been getting a little banged up in there. But
I just think the Celtics are too good. Yeah, because
when you look at it, think about what they go.
They got Derrick White that can defend. They got Holliday
that can defend. They got JB that can defend.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
They got bigger A Horford that can defend, Porzingis can
protect the paint. And then they bring Pritchard off the
bench that can score, House that can call cornet, that
can that can give you a little rebound. Me. Uh,
they're loaded. You we know j T can defend it
if you have to, but he can score. JD can score,
Derrick White can score. They got scores, and they got defenders.
(09:10):
So they're always going to have at bare minimum to
quality defenders on the court at all times. And so
when you have that, when you got two guys that
can defend. But look what they start with. So if
they start Holiday, you got Holiday, Derrick White, JP Al Horford.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Honestly, I'm gonna tell you this.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
I liked the Nickson winning at least three games. I
got win three games. I mean, hey, Raw, you want
to you want to, you want to best some on it.
You want to throw a little throw ways on them?
Said make it light of yourself. Bet fifty two hundred.
That's very specific, right he said, yeah, tell you try.
(09:50):
I'm sure I hold them fifty two hundred. So I'm
just trying to I'm trying to make it up some
other kind of way and trying to break you.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Rob. I' let me ask you this, of all the
game winners that you hit, what's your favorite one? Uh,
Lakers against the jay Kings with the ball came by
that game without a game double game cepl and it
was game four four. You know, we lose that game,
we go down three to one.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
And the reason is my favorite because if you look
at most of my game winners, they've all done on
the road, and so this one was done at home.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
And you got a chance to rejoice with the crowd. Yeah,
I got it.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
I grew up a huge Lakers fan, man, I grew
up a big Magic Johnson fan. You know you wouldn't
never being a Laker. You used to them chanting Kobe,
Kobe or shot. You know, when you get a chance
to knock down a big three and you get him
chant your name like that, man, it's the best feeling ever.
I think for me, it's probably outside of Kobe's last game,
(10:47):
is the greatest moment in Statele Slash Crypto. And if
you every time I see the shot from above and
when I'm making and the crowd just jumps up and cheers,
I get goosebunt every time I see it. You know,
even though I love what I did in two thousand
and five against the Pistons in game fire, when I.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Lit as yeah, that's what I was.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
That's what I was thinking, Yeah, yeah, yeah, But you
know it's something you know, we as an athlete, we
all got that ego, we all got that pride.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
You're gonna hit them fans chant your name. But I
tell you what, I only have like one picture up.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
I don't even have that shot up in my house,
but I do have the picture of me making that
shot against the Pistols because I just like looking at
the faces of the people in the crowd.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
You got some people like you know, and you got
one guy him in the crowd and it's like yeah,
because he knew it was going in people.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
I don't know if people realize this, Rob, but before
those black danjurs, you are hot flower.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
You was ever. I mean you was punching on folks.
I mean you are hope, over the top. People look
at you and they're like, man, all they did was
you threes no no, no, no no. When you came in.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
I mean, I don't know what it is about them,
the Alabama guys, you and make nice. All the guys
had up up of people. And I don't know if
people realize that, but you wore a hot flower, a
sixteen guy that finished above the rim. And then you
turned yourself. I think it was the back injury that
you turned yourself in more of a shooter. You still
(12:10):
could punch your folks, but not like you could when
you first got the houst.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
No, no, it's so weird when you coming to lead
funny stories.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
Like my middle son, he came to me one time, like, Daddy,
you don't ever dunk anymore.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
You can't even dunk.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
And there's that one dunk in the playoffs against the
Detroit Pistons that I dunked on Rep.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Hamilton. I took out outside the think and I said, see,
your dad can still dunk. I just don't have to.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
But you know, the weird part about it is when
I got to the Lakers, they was like, oh, we
don't want you to, you know, they say, we need
you just spot up. And the worst thing as an athlete,
if any athletes listening, is don't let coaches limit to
limit you and what you can do. And I think
you know this day and age is a little bit different.
Back then, it was a little bit more I need
(12:53):
to do this, this and this, and so in my
mind became okay, this is what they want me to do,
spot up and shoot threes and all this concept.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
But I I showed my my my youngest son, Christian,
who's that you said? Last?
Speaker 4 (13:04):
Let me show you something, man, Come sit down and
I'll show them my highlights. I mean rockets when I
used to dunk. He looked at me like, damn, you
had houps. It's like, yeah, I just stopped doing it
because they didn't want. I didn't have room to do
it because Shaq.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Was in the dad.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
That's dope, that's lie. Hey, hey, Rob, with some of
those some of those clutch shots you hit, were you
ever did you ever keep any of the balls or
especially especially Man, I mean, you got some really, really
really good moments, and for me, I would want to
keep those.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
I would I personally want to keep those balls. You
know you don't have any, you know, I really I have.
I have. I have one from it's actually the Game
seven ball against the Knicks.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
I have that. And the only reason I have that
because I told the guy said, because the first two
points of Game seven was me dunking on bad you
and I was like.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
I want that ball. I want that ball.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
So I have that ball.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
And I wish I had the one I made against
the Kings, because shit, if I lost it, if I
bett you and lost, I just sell that and give
me a lot of money to cover that.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
I know these Laker fans who loved that, well.
Speaker 5 (14:16):
Speaking of you talking about balls and being able to
sell the ball and get you a lot of money. Listen,
I got a prize possession, That's what I'm gonna say.
I'm supposed to have it inclosed in the case, right,
But I got the game ball when Lebron hit his
fiftieth point fifty thousand, Like, listen, fifty thousand points, and
that's something that you would think he would.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Keep sure sure to see. Huh.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
Yeah, So it's a fifty thousand point ball right now,
you see twenty thousand point and Lebron signed the.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Yeah. So if I haven't falling on hard times, man,
this is gonna come in handy. Do you fall on
hard time to try to sell that ball? You gonna
stay on hard times? Exactly? You, Hey, you might real
hard times.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Greg Papavich stepped out of the coach at the San
Antonio First today, ending a nearly three decade run that
saw him lead the team to five championships. He's the
all time winning his coach at NBA history, and he's
a three time Coach of the Year, and he's a
Hall of Fame going a gold medal, and he's inducted
to the Basketball Hall of Fame. Rob, you played for Pop?
(15:27):
What what was it about Pop that made him special?
What was your what's going to be your lasting memory
of playing for Pop?
Speaker 4 (15:36):
I think for me, it's just his how genuine he was,
and you know, he he was one of those coaches
where he's one of those coaches where he had yelled
at you and then take you to have some nochi
and someone in those two favorite things.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
And and for me, I think I tell this story
all the time.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
The one thing that really made me fall in love
with the guy was my daughter who passed away, was
really sick my last ship with the Spurs, and she
went into the hospital at the beginning of the season
and he was like, don't don't come back until she's
out of the hospital.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
And I sat in the hospital with.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
Her for like three weeks and then she probably got
out of the hospital and I came at like a
day after. He says, she out a hospital. Like, yees,
she got home like two days ago, he said, she
and out of the woods. Yet get back, go back home.
You know, we don't really need you right now. And
I looked at him, like, are you trying to get
rid of me off on the spot? He said, no, Man,
family first, you know, family first, And that's what That's
how Pop always was.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Man. You know, I just heard the day about the
story of the Martow Rose on his past and now.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
It's like and that goes to show you, you know,
there's some things bigger than a freaking game right, and
Pop realized that. You know, he was always about, you know,
spending time with your family, doing what's important. And I
remember even my last year, I went to him and
I was like, you know, I'm want to ask the
fairy like what I said.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
It's my last year. I said, can I and my
son's on spring break? We're going on a road trip.
Can I bring my son with me?
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Like?
Speaker 4 (16:58):
Yeah, I don't even ask you no question like that.
He said, it's you know, it's it's it's about the family.
It's about doing things, and a lot of teams wouldn't
let you do that. You know, it's because I remember
remember the Lakers back and the day you say he
can't get the flight back now lid Bill, you know
insurance thing.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
I'm like, what is this a flight hole on what?
Speaker 3 (17:15):
So?
Speaker 4 (17:15):
But pot was he's he was really really good about man,
if it came down to your family, you do whatever
it's necessary for your family.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Everybody talks about the relationship that they had with Duncan
because I think Duncan was the main being because you
could coach him Duncan hard. You can coach everybody else hard.
And Timmy was receptive and that's what you have.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Tom.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Timmy was one of these superstars that if you didn't
watch the game, you would never know he was a superstar.
He didn't dress like a superstar. Hell I remember you
showed up what to pick up an m v P
trop with flip flops his shorts.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
So David Sturn David what wan to swing on Timmy?
Head on George? Yeah, head on, jeans short George. David
Stern like, hey, but that was Timmy.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
What what wasn't about Coach Pop and Tim's relationship that
made it so unique and special.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
I think we're gonna back this up a little bit
because you really have to credit David Ranks because you
think about he had David Robinson when Tim came and
David was like, Yo, this is what we do here,
and Tim just follow suit. You know, Tim is just
that type of guy. He doesn't say much.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
You can talk.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
If you talk about cars, he'll talk to you talk
about video games. He'll talk to you talk about poke
with those three things and he'll talk about that. He
a't gonna really talk to you for us. You know,
it took me a year just to get him say
a couple of words to me, and but he is
just a he. He is a type of guy who's
really focused. We don't, you know, we always talk about
Code's worker. I think we talked about it, But this
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dude was always in the gym shooting jump shots. You know,
I'm always trying to get to perfect that bank shot.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
If you know.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
He was famous for shooting a lot of free throws
because you know he that was one of his is
his downfall?
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Yeah, yeah, And he just he worked hard.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
But he was just he If you talk about guys
who you know, I used to I had to get
on to him one time, like, dude, can you fucking
yell at somebody?
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Man, you sitting over there like with your mouth closed.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
You know, you yell at someone, you're gonna be like, yeah, pudding,
everybody's gonna perk up and listen.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
So he was just he was very mild many way.
He's mild. Mind. He didn't want to say much.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
But the guy was he competed and he was and
when he when he led you into his world, one
of the nicest guys you'll meet.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
You mentioned the Twin Towers because David Robinson was there.
But when David was there, I mean they Wondam Championship
with David, but David was on the tail end of
his career. That was that was I mean, basically Tim
Dunkett team from the time he walked in the door.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Oh he was just that good.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
And he was one of the last guys that was
a true senior that was the number one overall. Kenya
Martin was the last one, I think in two thousand,
but Timmy was what ninety eight. I think the ninety
eight draft was Timmy's first year, but he was the last,
the last of those guys that he went four years
of college and came out. So he was more than ready,
(20:05):
more than prepared for the grind because basically he was
a grown man when he wasn't eighteen, he wasn't seventeen.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Tim Duggan was a twenty two year old grown man
when he got to the NBA.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
So you tell me something I did not know. I
thought he came out earlier. You just so you say
everybody coming down early, you know, thinking about and that's
the one thing that I hated about the NBA. I know,
these dudes are freaking twenty one when they get to
college now, but I just wish that that that that
I was about to say, David Stern that Adam Silbell
put like two years onto it. Because these guys. You
(20:38):
can tell by the way these guys play. Now, that's
why so many threes are being shot, because they don't
know how to play. They're doing what's easy. It's taking
the threes in the learning the game. You know, you
got some guys that are gonna come in the league
that know how to play the game because of the
upbringing and how they were taught. But it's just it's
just it's just a lot of bad basketball being played
because guys don't know how to play. You know, you
think about tonight washing game, Like, dude, the first thing
(21:01):
you learn in high school and college is how to
beat the damn zone.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Right, the zone is the easiest freaking thing to beat.
And you can't beat the zone.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
It's like go to the Oprah spots, go to the
dunker spot, go back door, and it just shows you
right there that the guys aren't learning anything because they're
all just trying to, you know, get to the next
level to the league without learning something.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Rob you played with some of the greats. I mean,
you was on a team with him, Duncan. You was
on a team with Shaq and Kobe.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
You was on the King with a lot Dream and Drexler,
And I know people ask you what the difference.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Between Dream and Duncan, the difference between Duncan and Shaq,
the difference between Clyde and Kobe. What are some of
the different look because look, all of those guys that
I just mentioned are all the seventy five greatest players
in the NBA history, MVP's Finals, MVPs, Defensive.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Players of the Year.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
When you got when you got to the Rockets, what
was it about the Dream that you know, okay and
this got special?
Speaker 2 (21:54):
What set them apart? Shit?
Speaker 4 (21:57):
I knew Dream was special when I watched them in
college because when I when I was coming out, I said,
I want to play alongside this guy. You know, I
was praying that I went to the Rockets and the
guy was and I did because you could just see
his work as you know you watched him. You know,
guys always talking about going into the lab. Dream would
be in the lab and we didn't even know it.
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He would be working on stuff and then he'll just
all of a sudden in the game. You know, you
think about ninety five high annihilated David.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Yeah, because he said they took the game. Is it
took his the MVP from him? Yeah, all that stuff
we had never seen before. You should have seen us
on the court.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
We're going like, oh, we became fans on the court, right,
And so he just and you watch him, man, he
just played hard.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Man.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
You think about you know, back in the day when
he you forget he used a knock some people out.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Oh yeah, you know, he had that toughness. You know,
you help on him.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
He would he was because only a fifty dollars finals,
you know, puts him in the face. And so he
had that toughness and he just had that. The one
thing about Dream, though, is we talk about how hard
guys players like, and how hard Yannis plays, how hard
Bronson places, how hard he's got Dream play hard each
and every night. And you know, people would talk about
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who's the greatest center, who's this, who's that.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Dream to me is always gonna be top three centers. Wow.
Because if he needed to shoot threes, he could have
shot threes.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
He didn't because he had us out there and you
couldn't stop him in the paint any damn way.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
So he just gonna keep you that way.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
So he was just you know, he was just a
hard worker and the more important, great guy because he
taught me about the business of basketball. He was like, yo,
I remember one time at a Christmas part he took
me outside. I said, listen, you're gonna be on this team.
Now let's talk about, you know, things outside of basketball.
What you're doing with your money. You know, how's the family,
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you know, are you investing, do you have the right people?
Speaker 2 (23:47):
He was just a good guy.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
You know, a lot of guys now you know, they
won't they won't come to you and be like, yo, man,
you need to check your find that you need to
do this.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
They like, fuck you. I learned it on my own.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
You on your own, and so I just that's one
of the things I love about you. And he taught
me about the business of basketball. So you leave Houston
and you go to the let well you know you
have you didn't go right to you got to go there?
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Huh, no, you have. You got to talk about the
fins man.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Start you have a little bit and started saying, and Peter,
you you have a couple of coffee at the airport.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
He got right back on the player. He went to
l A So you get to l A shock and
Kobe what you're like? Dam N? Got shocked? Got Kobe?
Speaker 4 (24:27):
What?
Speaker 3 (24:27):
What?
Speaker 2 (24:28):
What y'all need to be to do? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (24:30):
You know what's weird? When I got there, man, I'm
looking at the team. We had Nick ban X at
the yelling, we had Eddie Jones at the two. I said, okay,
I can play the three. You know, back then I
was the man, and I said, we got a young
guy like this. You know, everybody's like, oh, you got
to see this rookie Kobe Bryan.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
I'm like, who.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
And then you get to the practice you see how
good this dude is. Okay, he's learning, and then you
got shocked. You know, you say, okay, Shaq just got
beaten ninety five in the finals, and you got all
this talent. I said, oh man, we got to do
some work. I said, We're gonna do some work for
some years. Because everybody young, everybody's under thirty. But sometimes
it goes to show you too many cooks in the
kitchen when it comes to basketball ain't good. You gotta
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have some guys that are blue guys, some screw guys,
you know, some boats and and do the things to
keep the team together.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
And you think about we had four All stars. Yeah,
and then we got swept by a damn team that
has been together for thirty years. That was Kobe's rookie year,
wasn't it. That was Kobe's rookie year. Yeah, yep.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
And then and then and then ninety nine, you know,
we got beat We got beat by the Spurs, lost
the last game in the Forum to the Spurs. And
then that was when we got new coaches, and we
said we got rid of Nick, we got rid of Eddie,
and we bought in defensive minded people. You know. He
brought in Ron Harper, We bought in b Shaw, we
bought in Rick Fox, We did all these things, brought
in a C.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Green And it was that Glue who was whole grand
there did a whole great only came for the last
hope Hope.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
Grant was on the second championship in two thousand and
two thousand and one. Yeah, so, and it was just weird, man.
You just and it goes to show you when you
got too much talent, it's hard to get in the way.
But when you've got when you got enough talent and
you got guys who mature, and you can you can
tell Kobe and Shot to shut up and sit you.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Ass down and do what you're supposed to do, and
they gonna they gonna, you think about it.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
We used to tell Kobe, all, dude, you ain't doing
that tonight, A Shack, you ain't doing that, and they
would listen to us because we are veteran guys.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
You know. Now you got this going on.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
Guys you know, respect us and we had a lot
of respect for one another, and it was no animosity.
And people always ask me about the Kobe Shack thing.
I was like, man, I must have been fucking blinded,
because they never had beef in front of us. It
was all in the papers man, you know, And that
was the weirdest thing. When people like, we'll talk about it,
I'm like they in the locker room, laughing and joking.
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They the first people to hug after a championship. I know,
you tell me you you want a championship. Who was
the first person you hung, you hugged after you want
to champion? It's probably your favorite player on the team.
And so that's why I was like men's arriving, they
would say, oh, they're beef and I'm like, man, where
it was just weird to me? How good was Shaq?
Speaker 1 (27:02):
You look at Shack and I tell people, I would
think people realize how athletic Shock was when Shaq got
to the league, like Shaq first five or six years,
when Shaq was like seven one three twenty five and
can move like a dear. We'll never go to see
that again. You never go to see a guy his
signs with that kind ofigility.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
You're just not Now.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
You might have a like a yoh, he's got the footwork,
and Joel of me got footwork, but I'm talking about
just raw athleticism and power.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
You never phil O'Neil again, never, ye never.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
You know, you think about if you always tell if
you start a team, if I could take the two thousand,
the nineteen nine nine, two thousand Shock, the MVP Shack
and have him that Shack and put him on, that's
my first person, Not Jordan, not Dream, not Daream.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
That's the first person I'm picked to start my line.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
If I can get that Shack because he was just
so dominant, he was just so strong, so athletic. You
thinking about this, this guy can bring the ball down
across your spin, take off from outside the paint, then
monkey dunk on your ask and then you could do
you know, and you go back and look at a
lot of tape. And I've heard this out of refs mouth.
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So I'm sitting there. You can hear all you is
on him and he's not getting the call. They're like, oh,
he's too big, he should be able to handle that.
I'm like, dude, it's a freaking file. He's slapping his show.
Y'all said, all right, y'all, gonna piss him off, and
then I'm gonna get out of way be cause he's
gonna start an elbowing and you can tell when he
got frustrated because he'll do that.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
He don't care who he is. I'm like, so yeah,
he was.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
He was like I said, if you got one player,
one moment, I'm taking nineteen ninety nine, two thousand shock
and I'm starting the team with that guy.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
If I can get that guy each and every night.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Okay, Kobe, Kobe, if a seventeen he gets there seventeen.
Now by the time they start to win championships, he's
the Kobe. He's he's become what he became and you
get to see it on full display. He could still
elevate over the top. He got the minute, he could up.
Oh he had, he had the package. And if you
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need him to sit in the chair for forty minutes
and take the opposing team to point two three, I
got it.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
Yeah, yeah, he and he wanted that challenge. And you know, you,
you know, I know you think Lebron is the greatest
of all time. And you people talk about, uh MJ
being the greatest of all time. Why don't you think
you when you watch Kobe Bryant, he did every freaking
thing like MJ. And he probably took it to another
(29:36):
level because Kobe. You know, when Kobe first came in
the league, we used to laugh and joke him, like
you can't shoot threes?
Speaker 2 (29:42):
He just shoot threes like MJ. But he we would
like joke with him.
Speaker 4 (29:46):
So that dude being in the gym every morning at
five o'clock shooting number threes and now he can shoot threes.
And it's things like that that why he was great.
You could tell him he was not good at something,
he would prove you wrong by going in and working
on it and added to his game.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
This dude.
Speaker 4 (30:02):
You know, God rest his soul. Was the hardest working
dude I've ever seen in my life. And you think
about where he went from his rookie year where he
just played. Wow, you know, he didn't have no structure
to his game to understanding that. Oh I got to
tone this down. And I don't know if it's because
he talked to MJ and talked to Field whatnot, but
when he got filled, it made him more.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Structure than I've ever seen before. So the dude was
just phenomenal. Man.
Speaker 4 (30:30):
So I hate when we talk about the goat and
we never bring him up, like because it's like, you know,
to me, the goats are MJ, Kobe, Lebron, and Kareem.
Those are the goats. And why do we have to
put one, one, two, one, three and four those four
guys right there? Why great camps? Just four ghosts? That's
the amount rushmore right there?
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Why Why didn't playing on that team alongside Shaq and Kobe?
Why didn't they win more individual MVPs? Kobe didn't win
one until later late in like two thousand one, I
think two thousand out of two thousand and ten, he
won the MVP. Why didn't they win. If why didn't
Shaq win more MVPs? Why didn't Kobe win MVPs? Did
they cancel each other out? I don't think they counted
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each other.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
I just think, you know, if you if you look
at the league back then, it was hard to win
back to backs unless she was a white guy name
Steve Nash.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
So you know, you think about that second Steve.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Nash, I should have won that in Miami for real though,
So it's so many things you can look at it.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
It's just weird.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
You know.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
You think about MJ when he was in the league.
He didn't win it.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
Every year, you know, it's always someone different, And like
you think about this year, even though Joki is having
the best freaking career, best year of his career, he
probably give it to Shape, you know, And and it's
just how they do it. And I don't know why,
but I think Kobe should probably run at least three,
Shack should run at least I should Shack shuld run
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at least two. You know, I think I say, the
year he wanted, he should have won it, and then
the following year he should have won it.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
You know.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
Other than that, I think, you know, because you think
about his third year, my third championship, he wasn't as
dominant as he was. He was still effective, he just
didn't bring that you think about it, he wasn't the
shack before that, and that's what they based off. They
always say, Okay, we're gonna take your last year. What
did you do better than that year? And I think
he was just consistent. He never like went up a
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little bit to another level.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Uh. Jim Duncan, Jim Duncan had one of the great games.
He had a damn near quadruple double. He was two
blocks away from a quadruple double in an NBA Finals
game when he played when he played the Nets, uh
that year, he had twenty one points, twenty refound Channa
fis and eight blocks.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Yeah, that was a nets man in nets we had
just swear and just swept.
Speaker 4 (32:59):
The next year before what that or whatever it wasn't
next was like, you know, poor poor j Skied Richard Jefferson,
that crew. You know, you were the beast in the East.
But when it came to playing the teams used to
wear it. He was just like, you like the legs
and the clippers, You're just a little brother.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
So it was it was.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
They made it a good challenge. But if you go
back and look at the East back then East was terrible. Man,
they was god awful and so but Tim duncan though.
That goes to show you when he wants to take over,
he can take over man. He And the one thing
I like about Tim when he comes to blocking shots,
he didn't care if you dunked them here, Like, shit,
I don't care. I don't have social media, I don't
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care what you say. You know, people in San Antonio
gonna still about down to me. And you know most
guys were shot away from trying to, you know, go
up against the Venice car think you might get dunked on.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
They're like, no, I ain't challenging that. Tim didn't give
a shit.
Speaker 4 (33:46):
He would try to challenge you anywhere to block it
because he knew nine times out of ten he was
gonna block.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
It and it's gonna start a fast break. All right,
you're Mount rushmore teammates. You get four teammates on Mount rush,
Well who you go with?
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Dream Shaq, Kobe Clyde took cloud over Timmy.
Speaker 4 (34:13):
You know what, this is the one of the things.
You know, I love Timmy, but I'm going with Clyde Clyde,
my boy dad. You know, sometimes personal feelings get in
the way. Hey, I'm doing the Steve Kurr right now.
I'm putting you know.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
Hey, but you know, people don't. I think people forget
how good Cloud was.
Speaker 4 (34:31):
Man.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
He took a kind of a back seat roll when
he got to Houston. But but but Hortle Clyde Clyde,
I remember him. I remember what he was dunking on
everybody at five Slama Jam in the University of Houston.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
Yeah. Yeah, but he used to Clyde used to elevate. Yeah,
you know.
Speaker 4 (34:51):
And another reason I put Tim in that because I remember,
you know, I'm washing the Hall of Fame ceremony and
I'm watching Ruy T getting inducted, and then Rudy T
gave me a shout out for the Hall of Fame
and they paying through the crowd, and Tim then clapped.
So that's why I ain't nobody, because hey, I just
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said I thought it. Calls said, motherfucker, I said, you
don't have some two thousand and five excuse about Yeah,
you better get.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
Your clasps missing that damn Last night they go.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Over Spurn, got some cap space. They gotta they gotta
make Hey, they got Stephan Castle, the rookie of the year,
Wimby with the previous rookie of the year, they got
do they would you make the move for y?
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Honest? Would you try to package some pieces for y honest?
That's the thing you got? You forgot about damn Fox.
I think.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
That's that's hard to say. I would because you can't
pass them. Oh, I think that's gonna be the highest
commanded this summer. Everybody's gonna wong with the Greek freak
because he's that type of player. You know, I mentioned
really how hard he played, So this is gonna be
really interesting to see where he goes if Milwaukee want
to give him up. But if I'm the if I'm
the Spurs, we got the cast space to why not
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go after him because you know he'll love it there
because he got a good One thing about the Spurs
franchise is it's a good franchise. They're very humble franchised
and you don't have to worry about a lot of
outside know If you think about in LA and in
the Chicago, New York there's a lot of outside knowing.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
So you being in Milwaukee are used to the outside.
Speaker 4 (36:31):
No, it's been at a minimum. So if you go
to the Spurs, you're in the same thing. So I
don't know if he wants that. I don't know if
he wants, you know, be more. You know, I can't
get no more notable in yours retreat. But does he
want a bigger market
The Dame was apparently being shot around before the injury.
According to sam Amy, the relationship between Giannis and Damon
strong as at the respect level, but the imperfection of
the On Kirk pairing remained. In their second season together,
(00:24):
and with the group collectively limitations growing more evident by
the month, a conversation was luoming about whether Lillard and
the Bucks might be better off party ways they part
ways not because the ain't nobody traded for a guy
that's not gonna be able to play until twenty six,
twenty seven, So you stuck with him and he's not
gonna be able to help you.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
So now what do you do? Q? That's interesting they
just to have.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Like that's a little interesting tied that to come out
right now, Like the timing of it is this funny
to me.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
But I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Maybe they try and move down still this summer, like
you straighten things that name.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
I don't know, man, I ain't trader. How's you gonna
give me a call? How are you gonna try to
sell me a car with no mode in it?
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Because you're saying the first way they tried to come
out and already say like it was It wasn't like
a crazy tear or whatever.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
It was like you.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Know, the the I guess the minimum amount of amount
of damage it could be or whatever.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
So I don't know, man, I don't know. It's gonna
it's gonna be interesting.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
I mean, like, like I say, unless unless Janni's come
in and say something.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
It's gonna be real interesting to see.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
What goes on over there, because I know the last
thing they gonna do they not coming at offering no
trade for Jannis.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
I don't oh no, no, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
But see that was the most shocking thing about the
Luca trade. You could then't request to be traded. If
we go back and study history, guys that have been moved,
they wanted to be moved. Kareem wanted to be moved.
Shaq wanted his money. Jared Buss didn't want to give
him his money. He was starting to age, and he said, no,
I'm gonna move you. So when you look at it,
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Luca is twenty five, he had just turned me about
to turn twenty six. He was in the league eight years,
he was a five time first team All NBA selection,
and he got moved.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
So normally guys don't move guys like that.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
You're not moving yais unless he says, come movement, You
don't move KD. Unless KD says move me, you don't
move A Lebron. Lebron has never, never asked to be traded.
Lebron has always played out of his played his contract
out and then he's left. But when you get guys
like that, Celtics on trade Jason Tatum unless Jayson Tatum
says I want to be traded. You see Donovan Mitchell
(02:39):
Utap moved him Why because he said he wanted to go. Yeah,
He's really that simple. You Nightcapp family. Let's give it
up for Q. Thank him for joining us. Go follow
him at Q rich and his podcast at Knucklehead's podcast.
Q Man, thank you for your time, Thanks for joining
(02:59):
us to break down these game and talk all things basketball.
Congratulations on the podcast, Keep growing, keep doing your thing.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
All right back with us. Thank A'm gouty here. I
gotta say one thing to you, Michael Jeffrey Jordan is
to go. I'm not gonna plade it, I'm not gonna
argue it.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Okay, what it is? Jalen Bronson game went over the pistons,
What a shot? What the moment?
Speaker 1 (03:23):
The next window series? Rob you one of the great
clutch shot shooters. Let me ask you this. I think
for our audience, they want to know in that moment,
are you thinking, like, man, if I make this shot
on a hero, if I miss it, or you just
going through the It's the same whether the moment is
there or not. It's just like if it was the
first quarter, the second quarter, third quarter. What goes through
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your head when you're taking a shot that could potentially
win you the game or lose you the game?
Speaker 4 (03:49):
Y know, I think about anything, man, because it's just
like when you're in a gym. You're taking all these
shots and prepare for this moment. You put the reps
in and that's what you gotta do. That's why you
see guys. You know you take Kobe Fence's He's been
the gym twenty four to seven, so everything came easy.
And if you put in the time, in the work
and the sacrifice, these moments like this, you don't even
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think about it. When you think about Jalen Brunson, most
guys they like going to their offhand to pull up
for they jumps out because you can square up a
little bit better. He got you going left like you thought,
Oh he's a strong left guy. He was setting them up.
He said it, Thompson up, I'm coming right back over
here to what I want to knock down this three.
So it's just it's just a process that you go
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through each and every day, and you watch him. He
is so good at manipulating the defense. He can get
you on your hip and then he can cost the
contact or he can get you. He can he can
gauge your speed if you're going too fast, he stops
on the diamond, pulls up, and I think for him
and any any guy who's playing this game long enough.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
You don't think about it. You just do it. It's
just a second nation, second nature thing to you. Man.
You just you just enjoyed the moment and you just
hope that you make that month. So you can talk
a lot of shit.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
He does a great job rob as you mentioned, but
he gets his body in such a position to shoot
that shot because like you said, he's a left handed player,
and most left handed players are left hand dominant. They're
trying to get to that left side. They want to
go left. He did that and then if you notice
he stepped back and squared himself and let it go.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
He hit a shrewter. He got an and one on shooter,
and he got a tough step back.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
He I mean the way he can like get his
body in position to take and make tough shots.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
For a guy his size. He is not a big guy.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
I mean his body. I mean, you know what I'm saying.
He's you know, he got a little little gird to him.
You know, he got some but he's what you think
six foot. I think he's about six six one hit that,
but his ability and he's stronger than you think for
a guy his size, because the way he can like
put that that sholder in your chest and get and
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get that shot off, float on square himself in the
knock these shots down.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
He was sensatial.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
They couldn't buy a basket for the first nine ten
minutes of the ball game, and then all of a
sudden he said, man, just give me the ball. What
y'all doing? And every shot that needed to be taken
and made. Now they got a huge tip in by
bridge and somebody missed the shot and they didn't block
out the bridges got the tip that tied it up.
But you know, once they missed that shot, said, boy,
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y'all better get this ball. Because Thompson had just made
a great defensive play up like two possessions earlier, he
got a shot clock violation on the copy. He went
to go up and he stripped him with the ball.
He's like, yeah, Russell, I got something for you.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
Hold, I got a question you for for rob Man
for you and Unk right, is as great as Jalen
Brunson was in this series, as great as he's been
obviously being a very very clutch player.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Hell, he's just one NBA CUSS Player of the Year right.
Speaker 5 (06:54):
On this offensive prow tonight with forty, Is there any
chance y'all give me the Knicks and in this series
against the Celtics, any chance?
Speaker 3 (07:03):
No, No, no, no.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
And the reason I say no is because when you
look at the Celtics, they got six guys that can score,
and every time I look at the Nicks, they.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Remind me of Ai.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
You know, they got this one guy that does all
the scoring and everybody else does two or three things
really really good. To make that pie hole and do
you take out Bridge? It's one of my favorite players
when they use him and he's able to score. They're
a totally different team. But I just think the Celtics
has too much firepower. And one of the things they
don't talk about what the Celtics is.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
You look at them.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
They got four good defensive players out there in that court,
you know, and that's and and we don't talk about
that because we so caught up.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
In all the threes they do.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
But you think about, you know, White, Holiday, even Brown,
these guys are fucking good defense. And so they got
bodies to throw at Bronson a little short down and
so that's gonna be hard. And you know, going back
to Brunton, the one thing that makes him really good
is this is gonna sound really crazy, is left handed
players are always uh and have that ability to get
(08:08):
to the line and do things because you cannot use that.
You holler every run across a left pended player. You
think about Mono, do you know we're gonna play with
He was so good because you think he's about to
do someone is right here, like, oh shit, he's left handed.
And by the time you think about it, he donna
change you up. And because it's just not what you
use is uncommon. But I just think he I think
the Knicks might win one game because they play hard,
(08:31):
and I think overall, I just think the Celtic, Yeah,
it's gonna be a gentleman, sweet man. I just think
that if the Celtics stay healthy. But you know they
they've been getting a little banged up in there. But
I just think the Celtics are too good. Yeah, because
when you look at it, think about what they go.
They got Derrick White that can defend. They got Holliday
that can defend. They got JB that can defend.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
They got bigger A Horford that can defend, Porzingis can
protect the paint. And then they bring Pritchard off the
bench that can score, House that can call cornet, that
can that can give you a little rebound. Me. Uh,
they're loaded. You we know j T can defend it
if you have to, but he can score. JD can score,
Derrick White can score. They got scores, and they got defenders.
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So they're always going to have at bare minimum to
quality defenders on the court at all times. And so
when you have that, when you got two guys that
can defend. But look what they start with. So if
they start Holiday, you got Holiday, Derrick White, JP Al Horford.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Honestly, I'm gonna tell you this.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
I liked the Nickson winning at least three games. I
got win three games. I mean, hey, Raw, you want
to you want to, you want to best some on it.
You want to throw a little throw ways on them?
Said make it light of yourself. Bet fifty two hundred.
That's very specific, right he said, yeah, tell you try.
(09:50):
I'm sure I hold them fifty two hundred. So I'm
just trying to I'm trying to make it up some
other kind of way and trying to break you.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Rob. I' let me ask you this, of all the
game winners that you hit, what's your favorite one? Uh,
Lakers against the jay Kings with the ball came by
that game without a game double game cepl and it
was game four four. You know, we lose that game,
we go down three to one.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
And the reason is my favorite because if you look
at most of my game winners, they've all done on
the road, and so this one was done at home.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
And you got a chance to rejoice with the crowd. Yeah,
I got it.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
I grew up a huge Lakers fan, man, I grew
up a big Magic Johnson fan. You know you wouldn't
never being a Laker. You used to them chanting Kobe,
Kobe or shot. You know, when you get a chance
to knock down a big three and you get him
chant your name like that, man, it's the best feeling ever.
I think for me, it's probably outside of Kobe's last game,
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is the greatest moment in Statele Slash Crypto. And if
you every time I see the shot from above and
when I'm making and the crowd just jumps up and cheers,
I get goosebunt every time I see it. You know,
even though I love what I did in two thousand
and five against the Pistons in game fire, when I.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Lit as yeah, that's what I was.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
That's what I was thinking, Yeah, yeah, yeah, But you
know it's something you know, we as an athlete, we
all got that ego, we all got that pride.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
You're gonna hit them fans chant your name. But I
tell you what, I only have like one picture up.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
I don't even have that shot up in my house,
but I do have the picture of me making that
shot against the Pistols because I just like looking at
the faces of the people in the crowd.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
You got some people like you know, and you got
one guy him in the crowd and it's like yeah,
because he knew it was going in people.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
I don't know if people realize this, Rob, but before
those black danjurs, you are hot flower.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
You was ever. I mean you was punching on folks.
I mean you are hope, over the top. People look
at you and they're like, man, all they did was
you threes no no, no, no no. When you came in.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
I mean, I don't know what it is about them,
the Alabama guys, you and make nice. All the guys
had up up of people. And I don't know if
people realize that, but you wore a hot flower, a
sixteen guy that finished above the rim. And then you
turned yourself. I think it was the back injury that
you turned yourself in more of a shooter. You still
(12:10):
could punch your folks, but not like you could when
you first got the houst.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
No, no, it's so weird when you coming to lead
funny stories.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
Like my middle son, he came to me one time, like, Daddy,
you don't ever dunk anymore.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
You can't even dunk.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
And there's that one dunk in the playoffs against the
Detroit Pistons that I dunked on Rep.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Hamilton. I took out outside the think and I said, see,
your dad can still dunk. I just don't have to.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
But you know, the weird part about it is when
I got to the Lakers, they was like, oh, we
don't want you to, you know, they say, we need
you just spot up. And the worst thing as an athlete,
if any athletes listening, is don't let coaches limit to
limit you and what you can do. And I think
you know this day and age is a little bit different.
Back then, it was a little bit more I need
(12:53):
to do this, this and this, and so in my
mind became okay, this is what they want me to do,
spot up and shoot threes and all this concept.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
But I I showed my my my youngest son, Christian,
who's that you said? Last?
Speaker 4 (13:04):
Let me show you something, man, Come sit down and
I'll show them my highlights. I mean rockets when I
used to dunk. He looked at me like, damn, you
had houps. It's like, yeah, I just stopped doing it
because they didn't want. I didn't have room to do
it because Shaq.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Was in the dad.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
That's dope, that's lie. Hey, hey, Rob, with some of
those some of those clutch shots you hit, were you
ever did you ever keep any of the balls or
especially especially Man, I mean, you got some really, really
really good moments, and for me, I would want to
keep those.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
I would I personally want to keep those balls. You
know you don't have any, you know, I really I have.
I have. I have one from it's actually the Game
seven ball against the Knicks.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
I have that. And the only reason I have that
because I told the guy said, because the first two
points of Game seven was me dunking on bad you
and I was like.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
I want that ball. I want that ball.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
So I have that ball.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
And I wish I had the one I made against
the Kings, because shit, if I lost it, if I
bett you and lost, I just sell that and give
me a lot of money to cover that.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
I know these Laker fans who loved that, well.
Speaker 5 (14:16):
Speaking of you talking about balls and being able to
sell the ball and get you a lot of money. Listen,
I got a prize possession, That's what I'm gonna say.
I'm supposed to have it inclosed in the case, right,
But I got the game ball when Lebron hit his
fiftieth point fifty thousand, Like, listen, fifty thousand points, and
that's something that you would think he would.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Keep sure sure to see. Huh.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
Yeah, So it's a fifty thousand point ball right now,
you see twenty thousand point and Lebron signed the.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Yeah. So if I haven't falling on hard times, man,
this is gonna come in handy. Do you fall on
hard time to try to sell that ball? You gonna
stay on hard times? Exactly? You, Hey, you might real
hard times.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Greg Papavich stepped out of the coach at the San
Antonio First today, ending a nearly three decade run that
saw him lead the team to five championships. He's the
all time winning his coach at NBA history, and he's
a three time Coach of the Year, and he's a
Hall of Fame going a gold medal, and he's inducted
to the Basketball Hall of Fame. Rob, you played for Pop?
(15:27):
What what was it about Pop that made him special?
What was your what's going to be your lasting memory
of playing for Pop?
Speaker 4 (15:36):
I think for me, it's just his how genuine he was,
and you know, he he was one of those coaches
where he's one of those coaches where he had yelled
at you and then take you to have some nochi
and someone in those two favorite things.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
And and for me, I think I tell this story
all the time.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
The one thing that really made me fall in love
with the guy was my daughter who passed away, was
really sick my last ship with the Spurs, and she
went into the hospital at the beginning of the season
and he was like, don't don't come back until she's
out of the hospital.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
And I sat in the hospital with.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
Her for like three weeks and then she probably got
out of the hospital and I came at like a
day after. He says, she out a hospital. Like, yees,
she got home like two days ago, he said, she
and out of the woods. Yet get back, go back home.
You know, we don't really need you right now. And
I looked at him, like, are you trying to get
rid of me off on the spot? He said, no, Man,
family first, you know, family first, And that's what That's
how Pop always was.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Man. You know, I just heard the day about the
story of the Martow Rose on his past and now.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
It's like and that goes to show you, you know,
there's some things bigger than a freaking game right, and
Pop realized that. You know, he was always about, you know,
spending time with your family, doing what's important. And I
remember even my last year, I went to him and
I was like, you know, I'm want to ask the
fairy like what I said.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
It's my last year. I said, can I and my
son's on spring break? We're going on a road trip.
Can I bring my son with me?
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Like?
Speaker 4 (16:58):
Yeah, I don't even ask you no question like that.
He said, it's you know, it's it's it's about the family.
It's about doing things, and a lot of teams wouldn't
let you do that. You know, it's because I remember
remember the Lakers back and the day you say he
can't get the flight back now lid Bill, you know
insurance thing.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
I'm like, what is this a flight hole on what?
Speaker 3 (17:15):
So?
Speaker 4 (17:15):
But pot was he's he was really really good about man,
if it came down to your family, you do whatever
it's necessary for your family.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Everybody talks about the relationship that they had with Duncan
because I think Duncan was the main being because you
could coach him Duncan hard. You can coach everybody else hard.
And Timmy was receptive and that's what you have.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Tom.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Timmy was one of these superstars that if you didn't
watch the game, you would never know he was a superstar.
He didn't dress like a superstar. Hell I remember you
showed up what to pick up an m v P
trop with flip flops his shorts.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
So David Sturn David what wan to swing on Timmy?
Head on George? Yeah, head on, jeans short George. David
Stern like, hey, but that was Timmy.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
What what wasn't about Coach Pop and Tim's relationship that
made it so unique and special.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
I think we're gonna back this up a little bit
because you really have to credit David Ranks because you
think about he had David Robinson when Tim came and
David was like, Yo, this is what we do here,
and Tim just follow suit. You know, Tim is just
that type of guy. He doesn't say much.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
You can talk.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
If you talk about cars, he'll talk to you talk
about video games. He'll talk to you talk about poke
with those three things and he'll talk about that. He
a't gonna really talk to you for us. You know,
it took me a year just to get him say
a couple of words to me, and but he is
just a he. He is a type of guy who's
really focused. We don't, you know, we always talk about
Code's worker. I think we talked about it, But this
(18:45):
dude was always in the gym shooting jump shots. You know,
I'm always trying to get to perfect that bank shot.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
If you know.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
He was famous for shooting a lot of free throws
because you know he that was one of his is
his downfall?
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Yeah, yeah, And he just he worked hard.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
But he was just he If you talk about guys
who you know, I used to I had to get
on to him one time, like, dude, can you fucking
yell at somebody?
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Man, you sitting over there like with your mouth closed.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
You know, you yell at someone, you're gonna be like, yeah, pudding,
everybody's gonna perk up and listen.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
So he was just he was very mild many way.
He's mild. Mind. He didn't want to say much.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
But the guy was he competed and he was and
when he when he led you into his world, one
of the nicest guys you'll meet.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
You mentioned the Twin Towers because David Robinson was there.
But when David was there, I mean they Wondam Championship
with David, but David was on the tail end of
his career. That was that was I mean, basically Tim
Dunkett team from the time he walked in the door.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Oh he was just that good.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
And he was one of the last guys that was
a true senior that was the number one overall. Kenya
Martin was the last one, I think in two thousand,
but Timmy was what ninety eight. I think the ninety
eight draft was Timmy's first year, but he was the last,
the last of those guys that he went four years
of college and came out. So he was more than ready,
(20:05):
more than prepared for the grind because basically he was
a grown man when he wasn't eighteen, he wasn't seventeen.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Tim Duggan was a twenty two year old grown man
when he got to the NBA.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
So you tell me something I did not know. I
thought he came out earlier. You just so you say
everybody coming down early, you know, thinking about and that's
the one thing that I hated about the NBA. I know,
these dudes are freaking twenty one when they get to
college now, but I just wish that that that that
I was about to say, David Stern that Adam Silbell
put like two years onto it. Because these guys. You
(20:38):
can tell by the way these guys play. Now, that's
why so many threes are being shot, because they don't
know how to play. They're doing what's easy. It's taking
the threes in the learning the game. You know, you
got some guys that are gonna come in the league
that know how to play the game because of the
upbringing and how they were taught. But it's just it's
just it's just a lot of bad basketball being played
because guys don't know how to play. You know, you
think about tonight washing game, Like, dude, the first thing
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you learn in high school and college is how to
beat the damn zone.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Right, the zone is the easiest freaking thing to beat.
And you can't beat the zone.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
It's like go to the Oprah spots, go to the
dunker spot, go back door, and it just shows you
right there that the guys aren't learning anything because they're
all just trying to, you know, get to the next
level to the league without learning something.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Rob you played with some of the greats. I mean,
you was on a team with him, Duncan. You was
on a team with Shaq and Kobe.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
You was on the King with a lot Dream and Drexler,
And I know people ask you what the difference.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Between Dream and Duncan, the difference between Duncan and Shaq,
the difference between Clyde and Kobe. What are some of
the different look because look, all of those guys that
I just mentioned are all the seventy five greatest players
in the NBA history, MVP's Finals, MVPs, Defensive.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Players of the Year.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
When you got when you got to the Rockets, what
was it about the Dream that you know, okay and
this got special?
Speaker 2 (21:54):
What set them apart? Shit?
Speaker 4 (21:57):
I knew Dream was special when I watched them in
college because when I when I was coming out, I said,
I want to play alongside this guy. You know, I
was praying that I went to the Rockets and the
guy was and I did because you could just see
his work as you know you watched him. You know,
guys always talking about going into the lab. Dream would
be in the lab and we didn't even know it.
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He would be working on stuff and then he'll just
all of a sudden in the game. You know, you
think about ninety five high annihilated David.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Yeah, because he said they took the game. Is it
took his the MVP from him? Yeah, all that stuff
we had never seen before. You should have seen us
on the court.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
We're going like, oh, we became fans on the court, right,
And so he just and you watch him, man, he
just played hard.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Man.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
You think about you know, back in the day when
he you forget he used a knock some people out.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Oh yeah, you know, he had that toughness. You know,
you help on him.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
He would he was because only a fifty dollars finals,
you know, puts him in the face. And so he
had that toughness and he just had that. The one
thing about Dream, though, is we talk about how hard
guys players like, and how hard Yannis plays, how hard
Bronson places, how hard he's got Dream play hard each
and every night. And you know, people would talk about
(23:09):
who's the greatest center, who's this, who's that.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Dream to me is always gonna be top three centers. Wow.
Because if he needed to shoot threes, he could have
shot threes.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
He didn't because he had us out there and you
couldn't stop him in the paint any damn way.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
So he just gonna keep you that way.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
So he was just you know, he was just a
hard worker and the more important, great guy because he
taught me about the business of basketball. He was like, yo,
I remember one time at a Christmas part he took
me outside. I said, listen, you're gonna be on this team.
Now let's talk about, you know, things outside of basketball.
What you're doing with your money. You know, how's the family,
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you know, are you investing, do you have the right people?
Speaker 2 (23:47):
He was just a good guy.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
You know, a lot of guys now you know, they
won't they won't come to you and be like, yo, man,
you need to check your find that you need to
do this.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
They like, fuck you. I learned it on my own.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
You on your own, and so I just that's one
of the things I love about you. And he taught
me about the business of basketball. So you leave Houston
and you go to the let well you know you
have you didn't go right to you got to go there?
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Huh, no, you have. You got to talk about the
fins man.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Start you have a little bit and started saying, and Peter,
you you have a couple of coffee at the airport.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
He got right back on the player. He went to
l A So you get to l A shock and
Kobe what you're like? Dam N? Got shocked? Got Kobe?
Speaker 4 (24:27):
What?
Speaker 3 (24:27):
What?
Speaker 2 (24:28):
What y'all need to be to do? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (24:30):
You know what's weird? When I got there, man, I'm
looking at the team. We had Nick ban X at
the yelling, we had Eddie Jones at the two. I said, okay,
I can play the three. You know, back then I
was the man, and I said, we got a young
guy like this. You know, everybody's like, oh, you got
to see this rookie Kobe Bryan.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
I'm like, who.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
And then you get to the practice you see how
good this dude is. Okay, he's learning, and then you
got shocked. You know, you say, okay, Shaq just got
beaten ninety five in the finals, and you got all
this talent. I said, oh man, we got to do
some work. I said, We're gonna do some work for
some years. Because everybody young, everybody's under thirty. But sometimes
it goes to show you too many cooks in the
kitchen when it comes to basketball ain't good. You gotta
(25:08):
have some guys that are blue guys, some screw guys,
you know, some boats and and do the things to
keep the team together.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
And you think about we had four All stars. Yeah,
and then we got swept by a damn team that
has been together for thirty years. That was Kobe's rookie year,
wasn't it. That was Kobe's rookie year. Yeah, yep.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
And then and then and then ninety nine, you know,
we got beat We got beat by the Spurs, lost
the last game in the Forum to the Spurs. And
then that was when we got new coaches, and we
said we got rid of Nick, we got rid of Eddie,
and we bought in defensive minded people. You know. He
brought in Ron Harper, We bought in b Shaw, we
bought in Rick Fox, We did all these things, brought
in a C.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Green And it was that Glue who was whole grand
there did a whole great only came for the last
hope Hope.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
Grant was on the second championship in two thousand and
two thousand and one. Yeah, so, and it was just weird, man.
You just and it goes to show you when you
got too much talent, it's hard to get in the way.
But when you've got when you got enough talent and
you got guys who mature, and you can you can
tell Kobe and Shot to shut up and sit you.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Ass down and do what you're supposed to do, and
they gonna they gonna, you think about it.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
We used to tell Kobe, all, dude, you ain't doing
that tonight, A Shack, you ain't doing that, and they
would listen to us because we are veteran guys.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
You know. Now you got this going on.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
Guys you know, respect us and we had a lot
of respect for one another, and it was no animosity.
And people always ask me about the Kobe Shack thing.
I was like, man, I must have been fucking blinded,
because they never had beef in front of us. It
was all in the papers man, you know, And that
was the weirdest thing. When people like, we'll talk about it,
I'm like they in the locker room, laughing and joking.
(26:44):
They the first people to hug after a championship. I know,
you tell me you you want a championship. Who was
the first person you hung, you hugged after you want
to champion? It's probably your favorite player on the team.
And so that's why I was like men's arriving, they
would say, oh, they're beef and I'm like, man, where
it was just weird to me? How good was Shaq?
Speaker 1 (27:02):
You look at Shack and I tell people, I would
think people realize how athletic Shock was when Shaq got
to the league, like Shaq first five or six years,
when Shaq was like seven one three twenty five and
can move like a dear. We'll never go to see
that again. You never go to see a guy his
signs with that kind ofigility.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
You're just not Now.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
You might have a like a yoh, he's got the footwork,
and Joel of me got footwork, but I'm talking about
just raw athleticism and power.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
You never phil O'Neil again, never, ye never.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
You know, you think about if you always tell if
you start a team, if I could take the two thousand,
the nineteen nine nine, two thousand Shock, the MVP Shack
and have him that Shack and put him on, that's
my first person, Not Jordan, not Dream, not Daream.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
That's the first person I'm picked to start my line.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
If I can get that Shack because he was just
so dominant, he was just so strong, so athletic. You
thinking about this, this guy can bring the ball down
across your spin, take off from outside the paint, then
monkey dunk on your ask and then you could do
you know, and you go back and look at a
lot of tape. And I've heard this out of refs mouth.
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So I'm sitting there. You can hear all you is
on him and he's not getting the call. They're like, oh,
he's too big, he should be able to handle that.
I'm like, dude, it's a freaking file. He's slapping his show.
Y'all said, all right, y'all, gonna piss him off, and
then I'm gonna get out of way be cause he's
gonna start an elbowing and you can tell when he
got frustrated because he'll do that.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
He don't care who he is. I'm like, so yeah,
he was.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
He was like I said, if you got one player,
one moment, I'm taking nineteen ninety nine, two thousand shock
and I'm starting the team with that guy.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
If I can get that guy each and every night.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Okay, Kobe, Kobe, if a seventeen he gets there seventeen.
Now by the time they start to win championships, he's
the Kobe. He's he's become what he became and you
get to see it on full display. He could still
elevate over the top. He got the minute, he could up.
Oh he had, he had the package. And if you
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need him to sit in the chair for forty minutes
and take the opposing team to point two three, I
got it.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
Yeah, yeah, he and he wanted that challenge. And you know, you,
you know, I know you think Lebron is the greatest
of all time. And you people talk about, uh MJ
being the greatest of all time. Why don't you think
you when you watch Kobe Bryant, he did every freaking
thing like MJ. And he probably took it to another
(29:36):
level because Kobe. You know, when Kobe first came in
the league, we used to laugh and joke him, like
you can't shoot threes?
Speaker 2 (29:42):
He just shoot threes like MJ. But he we would
like joke with him.
Speaker 4 (29:46):
So that dude being in the gym every morning at
five o'clock shooting number threes and now he can shoot threes.
And it's things like that that why he was great.
You could tell him he was not good at something,
he would prove you wrong by going in and working
on it and added to his game.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
This dude.
Speaker 4 (30:02):
You know, God rest his soul. Was the hardest working
dude I've ever seen in my life. And you think
about where he went from his rookie year where he
just played. Wow, you know, he didn't have no structure
to his game to understanding that. Oh I got to
tone this down. And I don't know if it's because
he talked to MJ and talked to Field whatnot, but
when he got filled, it made him more.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Structure than I've ever seen before. So the dude was
just phenomenal. Man.
Speaker 4 (30:30):
So I hate when we talk about the goat and
we never bring him up, like because it's like, you know,
to me, the goats are MJ, Kobe, Lebron, and Kareem.
Those are the goats. And why do we have to
put one, one, two, one, three and four those four
guys right there? Why great camps? Just four ghosts? That's
the amount rushmore right there?
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Why Why didn't playing on that team alongside Shaq and Kobe?
Why didn't they win more individual MVPs? Kobe didn't win
one until later late in like two thousand one, I
think two thousand out of two thousand and ten, he
won the MVP. Why didn't they win. If why didn't
Shaq win more MVPs? Why didn't Kobe win MVPs? Did
they cancel each other out? I don't think they counted
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each other.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
I just think, you know, if you if you look
at the league back then, it was hard to win
back to backs unless she was a white guy name
Steve Nash.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
So you know, you think about that second Steve.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Nash, I should have won that in Miami for real though,
So it's so many things you can look at it.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
It's just weird.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
You know.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
You think about MJ when he was in the league.
He didn't win it.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
Every year, you know, it's always someone different, And like
you think about this year, even though Joki is having
the best freaking career, best year of his career, he
probably give it to Shape, you know, And and it's
just how they do it. And I don't know why,
but I think Kobe should probably run at least three,
Shack should run at least I should Shack shuld run
(31:58):
at least two. You know, I think I say, the
year he wanted, he should have won it, and then
the following year he should have won it.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
You know.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
Other than that, I think, you know, because you think
about his third year, my third championship, he wasn't as
dominant as he was. He was still effective, he just
didn't bring that you think about it, he wasn't the
shack before that, and that's what they based off. They
always say, Okay, we're gonna take your last year. What
did you do better than that year? And I think
he was just consistent. He never like went up a
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little bit to another level.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Uh. Jim Duncan, Jim Duncan had one of the great games.
He had a damn near quadruple double. He was two
blocks away from a quadruple double in an NBA Finals
game when he played when he played the Nets, uh
that year, he had twenty one points, twenty refound Channa
fis and eight blocks.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Yeah, that was a nets man in nets we had
just swear and just swept.
Speaker 4 (32:59):
The next year before what that or whatever it wasn't
next was like, you know, poor poor j Skied Richard Jefferson,
that crew. You know, you were the beast in the East.
But when it came to playing the teams used to
wear it. He was just like, you like the legs
and the clippers, You're just a little brother.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
So it was it was.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
They made it a good challenge. But if you go
back and look at the East back then East was terrible. Man,
they was god awful and so but Tim duncan though.
That goes to show you when he wants to take over,
he can take over man. He And the one thing
I like about Tim when he comes to blocking shots,
he didn't care if you dunked them here, Like, shit,
I don't care. I don't have social media, I don't
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care what you say. You know, people in San Antonio
gonna still about down to me. And you know most
guys were shot away from trying to, you know, go
up against the Venice car think you might get dunked on.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
They're like, no, I ain't challenging that. Tim didn't give
a shit.
Speaker 4 (33:46):
He would try to challenge you anywhere to block it
because he knew nine times out of ten he was
gonna block.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
It and it's gonna start a fast break. All right,
you're Mount rushmore teammates. You get four teammates on Mount rush,
Well who you go with?
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Dream Shaq, Kobe Clyde took cloud over Timmy.
Speaker 4 (34:13):
You know what, this is the one of the things.
You know, I love Timmy, but I'm going with Clyde Clyde,
my boy dad. You know, sometimes personal feelings get in
the way. Hey, I'm doing the Steve Kurr right now.
I'm putting you know.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
Hey, but you know, people don't. I think people forget
how good Cloud was.
Speaker 4 (34:31):
Man.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
He took a kind of a back seat roll when
he got to Houston. But but but Hortle Clyde Clyde,
I remember him. I remember what he was dunking on
everybody at five Slama Jam in the University of Houston.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
Yeah. Yeah, but he used to Clyde used to elevate. Yeah,
you know.
Speaker 4 (34:51):
And another reason I put Tim in that because I remember,
you know, I'm washing the Hall of Fame ceremony and
I'm watching Ruy T getting inducted, and then Rudy T
gave me a shout out for the Hall of Fame
and they paying through the crowd, and Tim then clapped.
So that's why I ain't nobody, because hey, I just
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said I thought it. Calls said, motherfucker, I said, you
don't have some two thousand and five excuse about Yeah,
you better get.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
Your clasps missing that damn Last night they go.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Over Spurn, got some cap space. They gotta they gotta
make Hey, they got Stephan Castle, the rookie of the year,
Wimby with the previous rookie of the year, they got
do they would you make the move for y?
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Honest? Would you try to package some pieces for y honest?
That's the thing you got? You forgot about damn Fox.
I think.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
That's that's hard to say. I would because you can't
pass them. Oh, I think that's gonna be the highest
commanded this summer. Everybody's gonna wong with the Greek freak
because he's that type of player. You know, I mentioned
really how hard he played, So this is gonna be
really interesting to see where he goes if Milwaukee want
to give him up. But if I'm the if I'm
the Spurs, we got the cast space to why not
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go after him because you know he'll love it there
because he got a good One thing about the Spurs
franchise is it's a good franchise. They're very humble franchised
and you don't have to worry about a lot of
outside know If you think about in LA and in
the Chicago, New York there's a lot of outside knowing.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
So you being in Milwaukee are used to the outside.
Speaker 4 (36:31):
No, it's been at a minimum. So if you go
to the Spurs, you're in the same thing. So I
don't know if he wants that. I don't know if
he wants, you know, be more. You know, I can't
get no more notable in yours retreat. But does he
want a bigger market
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