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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The volume.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Forty nine of and Rockbirdy have agreed the terms on
a five year, two hundred and sixty five million dollar
contract extension, including a one hundred and eighty one million
in total guarantees. Highest paid quarterbacks in the NFL based
on a year to year basis Dak Prescott is sixty million,
Joe Burrow, Josh Allen, Jordan Loved and Trevor Lawrence at
fifty five million, Tour at fifty three point one, Rock
(00:36):
Party fifty three. Jerry Golf at a good number right
where they have right where they have him.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Slaughter is a good number for him.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Yeah, I mean you go, oh, Joe, you got to
think about it. The man made two point nine million
over the first three years of his career.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Now he'll get a check every every week for two
point nine million. Listen.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
He deserved it. He all deserves well deserve I didn't, Yeah,
I didn't. I like break Purty. I just imbue him
at the tier one type quarterback and a superior supporting
cast around it. You got Trim Williams, you had Debo,
you had Brandon Ayuk, you got Christian mccaffy in the backfield.
(01:16):
How do you look once once some of those pieces
went away. It wasn't this pretty. It wasn't just pretty.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
It's all about, oh joe, When in real estate, what
is about It's about location, location, location, And the NFL
is about position, position, position. He plays a premium d
no A A a period. He plays B premium position
and sold. It's like man, now house, say, man, that house.
(01:44):
They worn't no forty million dollars. Maybe if it wasn't
in bel Air, you're right, but it's in bel Air.
It's absolutely forty million dollars. And if you want it,
that's what you would have to be to get it. Well,
a starting quarterback in the NFL that's gone to a
super Bowl, he's gone to two NFC championships, he'd want
that's what you're gonna have.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
To pay to keep it.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
It's really it's really, it's really that simple, O Joe.
You know all that man, he ain't worth that you
worked with somebody.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
That played for He plays very well in the offense,
and that Shanahan autle very very well.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Look, actually he's probably worth more because they saved Kyle
Shanahan and job his job because they inveted all that
money in trade and Trey Lance. They gave up all
that draft capital to get Trey Lance. They took this man.
It's mister relevant and the last pick of the steveth round. Now,
if you don't take him, and you got Trey Lance
and you done moved on from Trey Lance, you're gone.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Mm hmm, you gone?
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Hey? Are you then a.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
C L?
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Last year? De boy got Kittles? Who else? Who else?
Speaker 2 (02:54):
He?
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Who else? He throwing to Brandon? Brandon and you could
be back.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Well, Rick, and you gonna be back already after a clah.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
A cl don't take that long. You don't take that.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Medicine different now, Joe, medicine different now.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
He did it. He did it real early, so he'll
definitely be back.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
So he did it like in September, so October, November, December, January, February, March, April, May, June, July.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Yeah, we got we got a few players coming back.
We got you know, Brandon, are you coming back off
a c L? Stefan did coming back off a c L.
And it seemed like they're recovering faster because obviously technology
is a lot more advanced, and you know the rehabbing
stuff that they do is a lot more advanced.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Yes, yes, so.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Players are coming back faster than ever, especially once you
get over that mental that mental block and understanding that
you could trust your need and then be comfortable cutting
and moving. Oh man, that's I mean, that's that's that's
the hardest part right there.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
In just three seasons, he's passed forty five hundred and
eighteen yards, sixty four touchdowns, four playoff wins, NFC Championship,
and a Pro Bowl.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
So that's the go that's the going rate.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Uh you ce J Stroud is up thet Yeah, yeah,
CJ Stroud up there.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
So Joe listen, he finished get the bag.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
You have to walk down. Yeah yeah, and uh you know,
pretty soon you're gonna have Jane Daniels and Caleb Williams.
They're gonna be coming down a fight. They didn't finish
at the mark. They finna have quarterback out of control.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
Oh oh yeah, yeah, that's sixty me I mean uh uh,
I mean but Josh Allen got this whole contract guaranteed.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
To sixty five O Joe, no, what he got we're
attacked on. So it's like three third? Was that more
than what was Deshaun got DeShawn got two thirty guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
They got the same agent. Now, DeShawn had David Letter.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
I don't know who brock Pretty's agent is David Letter,
And I think all of them are athletes.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
First, right, who's talking? Who's the brock? Oh? Yeah, I've
never heard of them.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Uh, DeShawn, David Letter is his agent.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
I think all of them out of the athletes. First,
I thought Todd Frantz, who had who has dak who? Who?
I think look at look at the Todd Frants I
think he's at athletes first. Mm hm hm hm hm m. Yeah.
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So but yeah, I agree with you, oh Joe.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
I think rock Perty was deserving what had earned this,
given what he had done his resume, a Pro Bowl,
a Super Bowl, NFC championship game too. He had been
going to two NFC championship game remember towards his nailbow,
mister nailbow.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Up like the first nap that was a playoff game.
But that's a playoff game.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Yeah, the championship game, the NFC Championship game to the
Eagles show was and so yeah, he's he was he
was earned it. He earned this, he earned this big payday.
I like to see guys, and I like to see
team reward the players. You play well and we're gonna
reward you don't do all that haggling. I hate that
they haggle all other positions except the quarterback like that.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Ever, Yeah, I hate I hate that.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Look, man, hey, I understand that he's important. But I've
done my job. I'm gone to pill Pro Bowls. I've
been two or three time first team All Pro. And
now you want to haggle.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
Meyna always do it, they always.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
I'm trying to think who so CJ's gonna be up
next year. As a matter of fact, if I'm the raverers,
I go ahead and do something with Lamar. What do
you mean signing?
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Hell, yeah, you gotta do it.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Yeah, you gotta do it again, probably probably some time
in the middle. I bet they do something in the
middle of the season.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Watch either middle season or after the season. Years he
got left.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Shoot, he just signed that big one.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
He signed a five year two something to what he
had this third year into that second year.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
This will be saying year to it.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
But you got certain people that's getting ready to overlap him,
and they ain't got no business.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
No, hey, well you see we just named three six
eight quarterbacks that we've mentioned.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Lamar's about I think Lamar is about fifty.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
They ain't got no business overlapping young bull.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Yeah, damn truly. Hold on, I got these bathroom real quick.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Hold on, Well, you better get him before he he
messed righting with a super Bowl because now you have
to play him seventy million Lamar, Yeah, he has two
MVP's only uh, the only guy on this list that
has the MVP is Josh Allen, So Lamar has two.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Dak doesn't have any. Joe doesn't have any.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Joe has gone to the super Bowl, but he's the
only one he and Brock thirty that's on this list
that's going to the super Bowl. None of the other
guys that being played in the championship game. Yeah, that's
gonna be just separated for Lamar. If he can get
him one, if he can win one.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
It's over, man, it's definitely over. If you can do that.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Well, they got the back that break struck up. Yeah,
yeah for sure, but they definitely have the team. You know,
they resigned, they resigned the then then resigning they extended him.
King Henry gave him twenty five million two year extension
twenty five million. They extended him. I like Rashard Bateman,
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I like the receiver cord they got. They brought Andrews back.
They brought Lively back likely as they are likely they
brought him back. Look, the defense is gonna be solid again.
Offensive line is intac. Lamar's gonna be Lamar. So you
know they're gonna be consistently, They're gonna be pretty good.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
They're gonna be there.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Yep, they just got You know, the hardest thing is
to break it through that wall the first time. Once
you break through, then all of a sudden it's just
like it happens. But that's the hardest thing. You see,
Josh Allen hasn't broken through yet because similarly they have
to go against my home boy. Only half full of
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people have been able to stand him down in the
in the playoff game. Uh, and that's been Joe Burrow
did it, and Tom Brady did it. Brady beat him
in the Super Bowl once and h Jalen Hurst just
got it. But it's tough. It's tough getting through that
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first time. Boomer as size and damn boy happen when
Boomer Sizing went up on Kayler Williams, calling him entitle,
says he needs to shut up, keep your mouth shut.
You're going into the greatest league that's ever been for
a sport we all love. You're going to have a
chance on one day to make five hundred million because
guys like me and guys before me all went on
strike so you could actually make more money. So keep
(10:28):
your powhole shut and go out there and play football.
Earn your keep, earn your respect.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Keep you damn boom boom Boomer.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
I worked I worked with I worked with Boomer and
uh uh at CBS for a decade. And look, I
have a personal relationship with him. He's always been good
to me. He's really I mean, he's really a great
generous guy. But he will now he get on the radio,
get on TV. Now he's gonna show you the field
(11:00):
eagle by his tongue. He said, yeah, he like that
for he's been like that for a very long time.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Yeah, he has.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Hey, these old these old these old school cats, man,
they don't like these young dudes, these prima donnars coming
in here getting all this money and come, I got
I got I got it a few times many oh yeah,
oh yeah, I was sitting next to him when he
gave you.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Yeah, and hey, Joe, I love it too.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Yeah yeah, Look man, I think the thing is Joe
and you can look. I mean, you made great money
compared to the guys before you. Now, the guys that
came after you, they're making money now in ten years
from now, Guys that were making forty to fifty million dollars.
You're like, man, they got this joke in here making
eighty Can you believe Joe he making eighty million?
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Hey, man, that's crazy. That's just it is what it is.
That's time. It's just timing on Hey, it wasn't what
a time? Won't Joe?
Speaker 2 (11:59):
You can buy I can't like for three thousand, you
get a nice three bedroom, two bath break home for
thirty five thousand.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Timing is everything, man, Bro, you can't even furnish your
house now with thirty five thousand.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
By the time you bull, I mean, hey, I'm looking
at that trying to give me some no patt of
your furniture.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Man, I looked at the bryceon Patty your furniture.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
I said, now that don't worry.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Yeah, yeah, hen four and five thousand dollars for a
piece one piece like for like, I say, yeah, Patty
your furniture. I was like, you know what, don't know
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nobody gonna come here and swimming the pool anywhere. I said,
don't need worry about it. I told you I don't
need worried about it. Ain't nobody, ain't nobody. I ain't
been in the pool. I ain't been in the pool
since I've been here, and I've been here a year.
Shelley had her feet in her girlfriend had her feet.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
That's it. You got to swim scared I do? I
do not like a fish? Oh yeah, oh I forgot.
You live on a property, so I know you got
to pull. It's on, hey the country boy, don't you
know how to swim?
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Joe?
Speaker 1 (13:19):
I know you know how to swim?
Speaker 3 (13:20):
What what come on that? Every summer time? As a
little shorty, that's a little ggit. I used to bring
in Charles. How they pull with all my hobies. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Look I grew up at a boys club, thrashing boys
and girls club in a little rock man. They throw
you in, they throw you in the deep end. Boy,
you gotta swim, gotta learn, you got to yep, you
you go up in the country. It's hard not to
swim because you're around wall all the time.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Oh yeah, and then you know, I got all these
cousins and everything, so.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Hey, I was the youngest. Hey if he could ad
I saw them do it. They jump in there, jumping
right behind him. But hey, lord, if they let something
happen to be. Ain't everybody ojo in the country? You know,
I say, people jumping in lakes and everything. I know
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Florida water out there. Oh, tell y'all, don't jumping on
lakes and nothing, do you?
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Yeah, yeah, you know people.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Gator take your ass, canails obviously the ocean, but any
anybody of water.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
People getting there, But you ain't, Hey, Joe, you ain't.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Just see the man with the alligator canoe.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
He's canoeing with his wife. Oh you were running from
the cops. What.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
He jumped in the water with the alligator so the
cops couldn't come and get him. And he sat there
arguing with the cops in the gator. The gator right there, buying,
and the gator came close to him. He fighting with
the gator and refusing to get out.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
In the water.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
You ain't see that, nah, man the gator wasn't big
enough to really handle him like he wanted to. But
the gator tried to, you know, take a little bite
of him, but he was too small. Oh nah, he
was too small to do something with him. I don't
I listen. I don't know how long it took the
cops to get him out that water, but he was
he was in deep where they couldn't get to him
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and got Yeah, boy, if that gator was any bigger.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Now, I seen, I seen.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
I seen the story where a man and a woman,
uh were canoeing. Yeah, the gator took his wife, I said.
I said, yeah, the gator took his wife and his
wife and I started thinking, many did that man take
his wife out there on the canoe trip to get
rid of what.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
I'm trying to understand, how I get the wife?
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Not?
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Well, okay, they only they only attack one person at
a time.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
That was Florida.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
That was that definitely won Florida. It was one Florida
that canoe and yeah, that was They weren't Florida. It wasn't.
You need to watch. You need to be aware in Florida.
Oh yeah, and keep small pass because a lot of
times people get best smashed because they walking along close.
Oh Joe, And and you gotta realize the gate is
an ambush.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
So he's gonna lightless speak, he's shut very quickness is unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
And you won't understand. You see that man he that
look that gator got that man pump dog, that man
acid unascid. Hey you jumping in that saying your dog
like that? Oh absolutely jumping in at the grand and
gator open it? Yeah yeah you and I guess what
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and guess what? U uh in every gator I see
from that point on, he's gonna be dead. I will
be a vigilante every day I see. He don't have
a chance.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
He's gonna be He's gonna be traumatized. You oh yeah,
oh yeah, oh anything?
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Oh yeah, bare it don't fat because like like now
I don't really like but like when I like, but
then when I walked walk my dog when I was
we had the dogs, I always had a bang on me.
So I'm walking at night just to kate so bear,
bob cat anything, Oh you're gonna get it at that thing?
Speaker 1 (17:09):
What you care? Which we had an ar what?
Speaker 2 (17:11):
What? What?
Speaker 1 (17:12):
What?
Speaker 2 (17:13):
No?
Speaker 1 (17:13):
He he's trying to.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Be quick hell you're trying to Okay, now die hell
DoD Belly. I ain't trying to take that down.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
No city. I just want, I just want. I just
want the bobcat or the bear, whatever it is. Game
it to get up off me.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
NFL owners playing the vote next week on a new
playoff sitting proposed by the Lions. According to Albert Breer,
if it gets past the number seven, seeds in each
conference will be decided strictly by their record. A non
division winning team would be seated higher than a division
champ if they have more wins.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
What you think about the whole thing is to win
your division. You can't look and see.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
The thing is that you take one isolated incident, O Joe,
you took Minnesota. Okay, Minnesota was fourteen and three. Now
they're a lower seed than say, somebody won ten, but
you didn't win your division. How many times to have
a fourteen win team hasn't won the division? When it
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just so happens you in the division with a team
that was fifteen and two, How the chances that happened again?
That ain't gonna happen like that again?
Speaker 3 (18:28):
For that don't happen like that for a while I
just just honestly me, lead the game alone, Lead the
game alone, leave it how it is.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
You know, I think we're well. The people in position,
they take her in too much. Yeah, they're doing too
much to it.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
I feel bad for people that play on the defensive
side of the ball and I'm an offensive player or
handicapped so much they can't even play what we have
come to love and know as a game of football.
And it's true art.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
You just can't.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
You can't h.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Need the game along, please, Joe. You know they removed
didn't they do? I think in the NBA they removed
division winners?
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Right?
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Did they remove division winners as far as uh getting
hired an NBA? Nah, because it used to be like that. Yeah,
if you want your division yeah automatic.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Yeah, yeah, did.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
No.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
I don't want to do that. Oh, don't don't don't
number don't do that. Heys.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
J seventeen said, Oh, Joe unkin, O Joe, you're an
NFL general manager.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Who's your first pick date or alive? First pick? Start
the franchise with obviously, right.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Yep, I'm taking Brady. You can't go wrong at the
quarterback position if you give me an offensive play I'm
taking Tom Brady. You give me a defensive player, I'm
taking else.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
I was gonna say defensive, I gonna say l T. Yeah,
quarter I'll start with.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
If you start with any other position on offense, you
you crazy, I'm taking a quarterback.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
I'm taking Tom. Then defensive player, I'm taking l T.
Give me, give me, I'm give me. Give me a
Joe Montana, Okay, and give me l T. On the
other side. Who you started? Who you started your franchise with?
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Joe Ship old Joe.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Everybody said Joe, say he start a franchise with? Oh Joe.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Uh. I'm probably I'm probably gonna go with I'm probably
going with my homes On defense, I don't know. I say,
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I say Ray, I say Ray Lewis.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
After you saw what I did the Ray, You're gonna pick.
Speaker 5 (21:24):
Ray Well, I say, Ray, Smack you come across that another.
That's one play. What about the other one hundred players?
I smacked them? He did you ready to him in
the M zone and nothing? That's that's one time?
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Oh did it?
Speaker 2 (21:39):
No?
Speaker 1 (21:39):
He hit he hit the cross up across the middle
of the saw. I got up and to beat his ass, right,
got what for? Happening. What ever, Reid had to hold
me back.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
Hey, y'all buy the sleep Ray ass Broy's I got hit. Hey,
I jumped for the jumped for the ball man. He
hit me up underneath machire may helmet went flying. Hey,
I swear for God, Joe. Before I hit the ground
and I was getting up, I was, I was trying
to get up before I thought your head was in that.
Help to get his hands and let me tell you.
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Let me tell you by the story, Joe, we'll stop.
So I waited for Ray outside of the locker room,
and I think he went out the back door because
we're gonna have to square up.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Hit me like that.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
So I went to the team bus and was banging
on the you know, banging on the door. But he
ain't never come outside.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Yeah, yeah, you know you.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Know they called hello hands, right, Yeah, yeah, they called
me Hello hands.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
I' know that.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Yeah, that's why I ran on the fight sometimes, like
if I fight somebody like you feel like you're fighting
two people. Like That's that's why they called me Hella hands. Yeah,
because you leg Yeah, I mean, if if you call
her out, yeah, I'm a run.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
That's about the only time and the Bulls American Kings,
a biography of the quarterback author ESPN's reporter Seth Wickersham
describes how Caleb Williams was so concerned about being drafted
by the Bears that he and his family weigh in
circumventing the entire NFL draft. They suppose the lawyers to
find a way around the league CBA and consider signing
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in the us UFL. Chicago is the place where quarterbacks
go to die, Carl Williams, who's his dad set ahead
of the draft, according to the book. In addition, none
of the Bears coaches last season told Caleb Williams to
watch film or give him zero help.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
No one tells me what to watch. I just turn
it on. But Yoe, what do you make about that rush? Obviously?
Speaker 3 (23:42):
I mean you look at what the what has happened
to all the quarterbacks who have been a part of
the Bears organization, and you could understand why Caleb Williams
and his father felt that way.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
That way is the reason.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
You know, look how they treated everybody that's come through
that organization that has played the position, and the quarterbacks
that did have success, they had success simply because the
defenses in Chicago at the time were amazing, really good.
So all you had to do is just facilitate and
don't turn the ball over and defense will take care
of everything else. I think Jesus Williams is in a
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great situation now, especially with the supporting cast they have
around them that Thish have, Ben Johnson and the rest
of the coaches on that staff. I think this is
going to be the Bears best year yet, and they're
gonna surprise a lot of people. Every football season, the
main guns are always in contention. The Eagles, your Bills,
your Ravens, Bengals, if we start off to a fast start,
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your Chiefs, the Lions, and for some reason I don't
know why, and you can quote me on this, and
that goes for everybody else in the chat, the Bears
will be in contention and one of those teams buying
for a playoff spot and challenging for Lombardi simply because
of not just the quarterback play, but with a great
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understanding of what BENJ. Johnson and his offensive creativity can
do for a skill set, for the skill set that
Caleb william has. And I'm going out on the limb
and I'm saying that because I saw what he did
in Detroit with Jared Golf.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Yeah, and he has a more a look, I'm not
surprised by this. Carl Williams, who's Caleb Williams father. It
is his job to protect his son and put him
in the best posnsipal situation. I don't have any problem
with that, because he said, look, you look at all
the quarterbacks, Mitchell Trubisky, you look at Justin Fields, you
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look at Rex Grolzman, you look at all the quarterbacks
they've had.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
They haven't had any love with the quarterback.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
It is what it is I mean and saying so,
he's well within his right to make sure that he's
trying to put him son. His son is going to
the best situation that gives him the best chance to succeed.
Now about the what do you think about the watching
film not giveing the coach is not giving them any direction.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
I don't know that that's tough right there, especially at
that position before you touch the field. The only way
to prepare is by watching film on your opponents and
knowing what you're going to see. You know, day to day,
week the week. So it's hard for me to believe
that that there is no instruction in that area, especially
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for the most important position on the field, who has
to know everything that's going on, especially your opponent. So
that's that's it's I don't know that that's a little
tricky unk.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
I think.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Maybe they thought you were quarterback, played in the top
five program, you got that word, you were the USC.
Maybe they just took for granted, because a lot of
times they take for granted, like, Bro, you played a
big time program. Bro, we ain't got to go over that.
We could go skip that step and start getting something else. Now,
I just want to say this for us from me.
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The way we got taped cut UPO it was first
and third, first, one third, one to three, third and
three to five, third and long. But we had cut
ups cover one, cover two, cover three, cover four, two, man,
cover six, you know, whatever the case may be. So
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it was broken down. So we watching it and so
we see this is what they do in cover three,
This is the front they give us, This is the
coverage they played behind us in at the front. I
don't know, And like I said, I think maybe it
was a situation they thought he already knew how to
watch film. Everybody I didn't know how to watch film
because we really didn't have to watch fim Mojoe Hell
at HBCU playing man coverage?
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Hey, what the hell you think you gonna get? It
wasn't nobody disguise or done. It wasn't no cover two.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
It wasn't no single high, it wasn't no kick, It
wasn't no eighty eight, It wasn't no box posts, it
wasn't none of that.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
It was Mayn. I went out there expected to be
may I needed people. What are you doing? Why ain't playing?
Oh Jop, I lived Laska? Why he ain't got me made?
What do you know?
Speaker 2 (28:10):
But nah, it's it's cover two? What hens cover two?
So they had to break me all the way down
in order to beel me back up. And nobody made
me feel stupid that I didn't know that. No I
went to I went to a program. I went to
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an abc U.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
O Joe, we ain't got we didn't have receiver cold,
tight end cold. Then we have all that.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
No, And that's that's one of the things that I
really enjoyed on that. It's it's it's not glorified on
my end because of my style of playing the way
I played the game.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
But I was a skipping of the game. Huh. That's
that's that's the part of it that people didn't even realize.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
I wasn't able to go out there and do what
I did by not studying like a guy damn heard,
you know, because it's overshadowed by the fund and the
entertainment and the celebrations and the and the flamboyancy and
all the all the ship talking. But dude, but when
it was time to watch film, oh my goodness, I
needed to know everything.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
I need to know everything.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
I need to know what they Travis was our person
who broke down our film for me. He was our
He was our camera guy, our video guy. Uh in
the department. I had him break down all the clips
of the previous four games of the Individual. You know,
I got the number one corner every goddamn game traps.
I need everything on first, second, and third down right
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on these down the distances in our in our in
our in our area before we get cross the fifty.
And when we cross the fifty. What they like to do,
what covers is am I gonna get? Is he gonna bump,
He's gonna play?
Speaker 2 (29:47):
He?
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Is he gonna play man. I'm I'm looking at everything.
Is he a shade inside?
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Is he head up? Is he like?
Speaker 3 (29:52):
Does he like outside leverage? You know when a safety company,
I'm talking about everything I can tell you. I can
tell you based on that the distance, I can tell
you what they're gonna run when I'm coming out the huddle,
and I know it, and I knew it. That's why
I had such a confidence in my approach to the game,
because I studied like it, god damned like a nerd'
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That's the only reason where that confidence came from. It
wasn't it wasn't about my talent and my skill or
you know, me running around and just I know what
you're doing before you even do it as a snap
of the ball, and that that just oh my god.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Man.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
Now, towards the end of my career, when my body,
when my body wasn't able to react, you know, the
way it was when I was when I was in
my prime. Being able to study film and knowing what
was happening before it happened gave me a little bit
of an edge when I might have lost a step
a little bit. Yeah, yeah, And I think that's the
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thing you look at down the distance. I mean, we're
going over what they like to do and down in distance,
what they like to do in red zone?
Speaker 1 (30:56):
What did I like to do? Back? They got you
backed up? This is the coverage they like to play.
But that was always on tape.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
And so I'm looking at and so, like I said,
I could guys, look and I'm not trying to I'm
not trying to belittle anybody. I'm just saying, maybe they
thought this is something that he already knew, and so
they didn't give him the instructions that he needs. Me.
I'm looking at it from the way we had it
in Denver. It was broken down, you plugged. Hey, thirty
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one to three cover time, thirty one to three, cover two,
thirty one to three quarters, thirty one to three, six
two man, okay, third and five, third and long backed
up midfield red zone. Hey, you know what, when they
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play eight okay nickel, we will say this is the
cover that. Hey, they don't gonna play a handful of cover.
They're not gonna get all that get too excited. They
like saying that they gonna do a couple of things.
They try to catch you off guard. But when their
nickel defense, this is what they like to play. And
you know who the worst was.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Don't feel on it works because you know, you study
coverages and you study things that teams like to do.
But they had the personnel, the goddamn Ravens and the
goddamn Steelers during the two thousands. Yeah, and they're doing
all type of exotic shit. Troy polam I'll look, Wyatt,
that's Rick will Camerago. Yeah, I can't see you. I'm
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gonna wait till you come back. Okay, Well, anyway on anyway,
chat listen, the goddamn Ravens and the Steelers from the
two thousands, that two thousand era, all that cover too,
and they had all type of exotic stuff that just
it was like it was confusing. So no matter how
much film you watch, there was no telling what you're
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gonna get on game day. I come out the goddamn huddle,
you know, split tight, I'm looking at I'm looking at
the safety. What a goddamn safety yet, hey, I'm looking
goddamn Troy Polamalu and the goddamn ain gap. What the
fuck you're boing? And the goddamn a gap. So I'm hype.
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I'm thinking I'm looking at Carson. I'm hearing Carson over
that he ain't because I'm thinking of just me and
I Taylor one on one.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Man.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
I'm looking at side after snapp of the ball, I
look back up, I'm running around this goddamn Troy and
got way back to the to the goddamn third at
the snap of the ball. Yes, that damn Ed red
On Ed he's playing safety. He all the way in
the back like it's part return.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Down.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
So Ed is doing the opposite of what most what
most safety do. They sit there and they back pedal
back ed playing the game the opposite way. He started
back and come forward.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
Yep. I love playing the Raiders and the Chiefs, cause
you ain't getting my man. Raiders, man and man, Chiefs,
man and man. And they right in your face.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Deal Carter and James Hasty right here, and they had
they had uh abam Lewis and Kevin Ross. And with
the Raiders they had uh huh James, they had Washington
and they had uh uh.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
He back. Tell Daniel's right there. Every time.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Hey, Mike, come in and say, it's real simple this week, guys,
you gotta be man coverage now. If you can't be
man coverage. You either coaching or selling cars. Now my
coach is staff filled up. I can't hire you, John,
you hire anybody you got these sales people you need
to hire no coach.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
I'm good, Okay, You're gonna be without a job.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
Wickersham also said that William's family thought of publicly attacking
the Bears and the city of Chicago to try to
force the trade, concerned that the team would refuse the
trade to him regardless and cause a worse situation.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Caleb told Wickersham, I wasn't ready to knoke the city.
I can do it for this team. I'm going to
be the I'm going to I'm going to the Bears.
I like I like it. I like it.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
I'm telling you a lot I like him. Might say
what I just said. You know, it's laughable.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
It's a joke.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
Uh that there ship franchise. They might not like Kayler
Williams for for whatever reason. But I'm telling you you
got a quarterback like that, and you get an offensive
coordinator with that kind of creativity, understanding the strengths and
the weaknesses of the supporting cast that Kayler Williams has
around him.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
Man, he I think with Sky's limits.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Look at the additions that he got. They fortified that
offensive line. They drafted another offensive weapon at the tidy
end position. You got Roma Doom. Say you took no
One overall. You just free signed Redid Dj Moore. So
you've got weapons out the ying yank. You fortified it.
So he should not be getting attack from the defensive
perspective like he had, like he got last year. So
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would that be I think they got joke. They got
Joe Tuney. I didn't excite they got from the Rams.
Didn't get to the offensive linement from the Rams, but
they fortified their offensive line. Now, look, he's gonna have
to do a better job of not holding getting rid
of the football. Sometimes you got to know when the
journey's over. Throw it away, live to see another day.
Don't take your team out of the field goal range
and don't make it third and long.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
Some things is gonna be in his hands.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
I think he has a better understanding of that, having
played the game, got a year up on his belt, Ojo.
Things are slow down for him this year. I know
he's gonna put the work in. I've talked to the
young man and I know he's gonna put the work in.
And so I'm excited. That's a very tough Teva. I
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mean you got green I mean thank you about the
green Bay went to the playoffs last year. Minnesota went
to the playoffs last year. Detroit went to the playoffs
last year.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
And listen, I'm chat quote me and remember this, whatever
Dad is Friday, Friday, May sixteenth, I guarantee you the
Bears looked.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
Like a totally today.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
Third is.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
Oh, where depends on.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
But my computer say okay, but I'm telling you the Bears,
the Bears. Every year, there's a team every year the Yeah,
there's a couple of teams that pop up. You know,
you didn't think they were gonna be in the playoffs
and they end up being Yeah, and I'm really wrong
when I when I when I have my takes, even
though they might sound terrible the time, but for some reason,
they always they turn into fruition. The Bears will be
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a team who did sign offensive line and that god
damn Jalen Johnson.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
Yeah, Jonah Jackson. Yeah, so they fortified their offensive line, Joe.
They spent big money. Yeah, they got a center from
the Falcons. They got an offensive linean from the Rams
and they got Joe Toney who's a Pro Bowl player,
who's been an All Pro. So they've done, They've done
what they should do to make sure. Uh the offense
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flows smoothly. I think uh uh, Caleb Williams takes another step,
he gets better.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
I think they take off.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
But they don't have a choice because they're in one
of the toughest divisions in football. Yeah, they're in one
of the toughest divisions. It might be the toughest division
considering they had three teams represent the NFC in the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
Three of their four teams represented the playoffs. Yea, they are.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
I mean they had what a fifteen and two team
for a fifteen and one or fifteen and two team,
they had a fourteen to or fourteen and three team,
and they had what a ten and seven or eleven
and sixteen, So probably gonna take you ten wins eleven
wins just to make the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
So cho and I believe they have they have the talent.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
I mean, like I said, I think that they did
what they need to do offensively to make sure because
at the end of the day, you ain't doing nothing.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
I don't care.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
I'll get your defensive if your offensive trash, you ain't
going nowhere.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
Bro, You're not.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
You're wasting your time. And so they're like, look, we
got the number one overall draft pick. Uh, let's cut
down on some of these sacks he was. I think
he was the most sacked quarterback in the NFL. So
if you can take twenty sacks off of that number,
get his completion percentage up. I think he was sixty
two percent. Getting that up around sixty six sixty seven,
it's gonna be all right. I think they'll be fine
(39:10):
because I like what the Bear. I like what the
Bears are done.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
I like the hire.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
Of Ben Johnson. I love the addition of the tight
end for Michigan. Although I thought Warren, the guy from
more Penn State, yeah better. In my estimation, he was
better than me if I had to, if I had
to greade them, that's what I would do. But hey,
they went with who they thought was gonna be the
best in their situation. I don't have a problem with that.
But I mean, you hear rumblings behind the scenes that
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you know he's thinking about Chicago. It might might be
the play for him, considering they have a developed the
quarterback and extended period of time. Hell, I don't know
if they've ever developed the quarterback. You have to go
back way wait wait, like I said, they have Rex Grossman.
What did the guy that got from Purdue end up
going to the Broncos.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
Kyle Lord? I remember Kyle? Yeah? Uh so, look.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
It reported that he wanted to go to Minnesota because
he and O'Connell hit it off. He said, man, I
really love to play. Uh maybe he saw maybe he
saw a Jedle or whatever. Hawkinson Adamson that that probably
been hurt. I well, but I think you did. I
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think he did a great situation. Look, you went in Chicago.
You went in Chicago. They gonna love you. That's an
old school team. They love Big Marias. They've been around
at this thing for a hundred plus years. They love
the Bears, they love the Bears players. That is a
football town. I mean, he love the Cobies too, now,
(40:50):
so I think the Bears the Bears.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
All right? The Covey said they got the Coveies got, Well,
what was that twenties sixteen? When did win the championship?
Twenty sixteen? After a one hundred plus years, it's like Okay,
al right, bears, y'all haven't want to say eighty five
forty years. Come on now, the volume mhm