May 11, 2025 • 32 mins
Recap the best clips of the week as Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to the Pittsburgh Steelers trading George Pickens to the Dallas Cowboys. They react to Pickens fit in Dallas, what's next for the Steelers, and much more!
01:43 - George Pickens found out about trade when everybody else did
07:19 - Steelers db Elliot does not want Lazard to play on their team
14:32 - Cowboys traded for George Pickens
28:37 - Falcons fans upset Walker will wear number 11
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Speaker 1 (00:13):
But I really hope George Figuans figures it out. I mean,
he's too talented, O Joe to be bouncing around. Uh.
You know, sometimes people will give you grace one of you, Okay,
wasn't the right situation a quarterback, you go to the
Cowboys like okay, but don't don't don't, don't. Don't go
anywhere else but the Cowboys. Now, if the money, you know,
you want more money than I totally understand that. But
(00:33):
don't have the issues that you had in Pittsburgh here
in Dallas. That's all. That's all I'm saying, Like Deyontay Johnson,
like Bro.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
You and you on three team last or something, right,
you get so hopefully.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Because I agree with you, Ojoe. I think he's too talented.
He can run, he can catch, He's strongly physical, got
great catch radius, great run after the catch, can high
point the football. He can block what he wants to block.
But the problem is a lot a lot of these
young receivers, though Joe, they only see value in catching
touchdown the passes. They don't see value in clearing it
(01:08):
out and let us to let Ceedee Lamb come in
behind him and catch it. They don't see value in
blocking and the running back instead of getting a ten
yard he got a fifty yard touchdown. So you gotta
find value in other things when you're not doing what
the thing you see is value. More he sees valuable
it's catching a bunch of passes, scoring touchdowns. But there's
also value value in opening it up so ce d
(01:28):
Lamb and Jake Ferguson, and maybe the third receiver gets
a catch or a block that you know a guy
could have got ten yards, You got ten yards. Maybe
you springing for forty or fifty. You have to find
other ways to bring value and to have value other
than the thing that you think is valuable, which is
catching passes and catching touchdowns. But I hope he gets
it figured out because I do think he's immensely talented.
(01:50):
I think he has a bright future. But don't squander
this opportunity, young man. Unk I told you I got him.
He good. We had the conversation.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
That's why, after that conversation I told you I had
with him, we ain't had no issue since.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Now, whatever whatever the feeling, I ain't playing no football field.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
My point exactly, my point exactly. So what you think
he ain't have no problems off the field. He's the
all part problems off the field. To stay with me
real quick, now, I want you to see, now w
Wash the George pick as we get in Dallas, and
I'm saying because if he if he went the goddamn Dallas.
I'm part of Dallas too, Now, w Washington get okay.
So anytime, any time you make a mistake, everybody makes
(02:27):
sure you come back and you blame me.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
It's my fault. I let y'all die now, I mean, man,
I don't care about Look, you're gonna make mistakes, but
I say talk about that. I'm talking about that. I'm
talking about that too, all of them. Because it's hard
to tell if you know obviously, you know sometimes God
runs the wrong ride. The quarterback was like put his
hands up and he's like, you know, he a point
(02:50):
to himself. That's really the only way you know, unless
you know you played in the offense and you know
the rock combination and what goes with what a lot
of time I see West Coast offenses, I kind of
I'm pretty familiar. Uh. They might call the terminology something
different now because it's evolved since Bill Walsh. It well,
Paul Brown, that was Paul Brown's offense, and then Bill
(03:10):
Walsh it expanded upon them and gave it the West
Coast offense. It's expanded. But I have a pretty good
general knowledge of teams that run that system, what the
route combination, what what it should look and so I
feel very comfortable when I say something that that I'm
correct to a fairly degree of certainty. But uh, he
can definitely help the Cowboys. Cowboys have been looking for
(03:32):
a number two since he got there. Uh, they had
Gallop gallup, you know, had had a good year, got
the big contract. He just couldn't stay healthy, Joe, and
he wasn't the same player after he came up that
knee injury. He tored it. I think he towards a
c L. He wasn't the same. It wasn't he wasn't
he wasn't the same playing.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
It's tall the a c L, the a c L,
the a c L. Uh, they got damn keys. Is
very very difficult to come back, especially for skilled position players.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
I think quarterbacks. You know, if if if you're not
much of a dual threat, which most quarterbacks are now,
it's hard to come back. Man, it's It normally takes
your year unless your agent Peters agent Peters and got
people got people thinking that he just had an ankle spring.
He came back and had a better season the next
year and what it. Yeah, he went for two thousand
(04:18):
with the MVP and Offensive Player of the Year. Yeah,
he was almost broke on Edie's record. He was what
he had twenty ninety seven, So he was nine yards
short of breaking Edie's record, the closest anyone's being. He
single handedly got that team to the playoffs because his
quarterback was Princeville partner and they had Sidney Rice. Remember
(04:39):
Sidney Rice? Yeah? I remember Cidy. Yeah. M hmm. But uh, Dan,
you said you wanted to see pick go somewhere else
and and see, Well you get your wishes. Oh, I
think he got his wish. Only did he get his wishes?
(04:59):
Now be have consistent quarterback play.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
I don't care what the check or what people of
the world may think of Dak Prescott. He's still an
adequate quarterback in this NFL. He's better than what he
had in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Who you who you telling? You know?
Speaker 2 (05:12):
So obviously in that NFC, in that NFC East, it's
a good thing for the Cowboys offensively. So Dak has
someone else outside of Ceedee Lamb and I can't remember
the Titans name who's actually good. Fergus is a reliable target.
But the ad, the ad George pickens to the ham
(05:33):
and to that weaponry for for for for Dak to
have offensively, I think they're gonna do numbers, they gonna
do wonders. It just it just boasts that offense and listen,
as long as they use young Bull the right way.
Man skys and limits for him, skys and limits for him.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Steelers dB Deshaun Elliott does not want Allen Bazzard to
be traded to his team under the i G post.
Talking about Lazard being involved in the heavy trade rumors
with Pittsburgh, Deshaun commented, he's so boody. Wait wait he
said it again. You can see you see the poll
your screen, you can see what you can see exactly
what I see. Damn, he's so cheeks l o l okay.
(06:13):
I can't see it that good man, you know in
my eyes? Bad Now, well, well everybody everybody else see it.
Well what happened? Now?
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Say it? Get temple because it's too small up there
Allen Lazard is being involved in trade.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
The Steelers are possibly possibly trade for Alan Haazaard. Deshaun
commented under the post talking about the trade, and he said,
he's cheaps. What's deja, DeShawn Elliott, he's a dB for
the Pittsburgh Steelers. Steelers are involved in I get it
a who's a receiver? Oh yore, you can read you
(06:50):
see what he said right there. Okay, I don't know
what it is. That's what he says. I don't I
didn't get anything like that. You know exactly what I
need to be on the wall.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
I hope the trade does go through and Alan Lazzard
does go to the Seilers because now the Steelers have
to find a replacement for George Pickens, so somebody got
to come in there. They need a body somewhere. I
can't wait to see that, DeShawn Deshaun Elliott. Yeah, shoeie
And he liked that. He liked that.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Is he like that He's supposed to be that boy
at dB. Oh Joe, O Joe, oh Joe. I'm just
all I said, Okay. Stealer Deshaun Elliott does not want
Alan Lazard traded to his team under an i G
post talking about Lazarre being involved in heavy trade room
rumors with Pittsburgh. Deshaun commented, Deshaun Deshaun Elliott blue check mark,
(07:41):
blue check mark.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
He's so cheeks yell. I'm asking you, is he like
that he told about his team? Is he that boy?
Is he the oh shoe you?
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Oh Joe? We both do the same thing. I don't know,
is you? I don't know? Listen, what do you know? Yeah?
Starting good? Like that? He like he like he's the
next coming ReBs. I guess he said he. I guess
he said. He said. He's saying lizard is like that?
Is he certain? Is he Ramsey? Is he? I mean he?
(08:12):
I'm okay. That's that's all I want to know. I
just want to know. Oh wo wo wo wo wo woa.
Whoa you just said all year long? You say you
like when players speak up. How it is that? I
like that?
Speaker 2 (08:24):
So what does it matter if he's like, no, because
do that to the opponent, not to somebody coming to you. No,
you said you won't players to tell the truth, even
with their own team. That's what you saying. Ok ok
ok ok okay, Yeah, I like that, but I'm just
listen like talking like that.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
You got to be that boy. Why he telling the truth?
Still got to be that boy. So another So unless
you're not the boy, you can't You.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Can't be saying somebody else suck and then you ain't
good at your job either.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
That don't make no motherfucker say just because I'm not
good at my job, that don't mean he good and
he is. Two things can be true. I can say,
get my job and he's fucking two things could be true.
This is not a mutually exclusive endeavor here, Hey, listen, listen.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
I'm an avid, I'm an aviage, I'm an avid football fan.
I'm I'm an enthusiast. I'm very passionate about this. So
obviously I'm asking you know how much I love the
dB position. People in the chat, you know how much
I love the dB position. And I study the players
that are at the position most of the time. It's
most of the big names. So the fact that I'm asking,
is he.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Even like that? I need I need to see him
on film. Young Bull to Shaun Elliott, I'm watching this year.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
I love you, I respect you, But you talk about
my receivers, you talk about a friend of mine.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
So now now I got my eyes on you.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
So now throughout the season, obviously when the Steelers played,
you gotta play the Bengals, So I want to see
what you do against Chase Huh.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
I want to see what you do again. But Lazard
ain't chased. I'm sure. I don't think he was saying
that they had it if they would the ball.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
On somebody else cheeks. So that means you got to
be that boy. So now I'm expecting I was a
trash talker. I was a trash That's what I did.
I did that thirteen years great. You know when I
talked for a reason because I could walk everything up back.
So if you call them one person trash, then you
got to be that boy. Everybody everybody that talk trash.
Ain't you think everybody sold everybody to talk trash. Jordan
and Kobe No, but oh only people that talk. Hey,
(10:30):
think about this. The people that actually had the personality
and the balls and the golfs that actually talk trash
are actually that boy.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
I mean it helps. Hey, I'm excited. I listen, I'm excited.
I like stuff like that. Uh, now did they did
Lazard respond back? I don't know. Did you did Lazard
respond back, and well, he hadn't responded back at the
time that we we came on the here. I think
(11:01):
the thing is O Joe. Now with social media, uh
and and and Karan and that you were talking about this.
In basketball, what players think of other players in their
own locker room is differently than what we at the
outside thanks of certain players. So maybe the ship maybe
maybe they put maybe he thought it, we thought like this,
(11:21):
oh Joe, but we didn't have a platform to go say, yeah,
he's some cheeks he booted. We didn't have no platform.
If somebody was talking about a trade or somebody was
saying something, we couldn't go comment under it. I like
this though we read about it in the newspaper or
we saw we saw it, well, there's no way for
him to comment on it. Or we might say, oh Joe,
he's We might say, oh, he sucked amongst us in
(11:44):
the locker room, but didn't nobody that wasn't in the
locker room would hear it. I like, now it's there
for both everybody to see it. They got a blue
check mark, so it's like but also unless it's unless
he was hacken. But now he wasn't hacked. But this
is what it does, though, Uncle.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
You when you put it out there like this and
on social media, now you're gonna have everybody watching you.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Not only that.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
So if something is something that goes wrong on your
end during the season, what's the first thing they're gonna
bring up?
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Bingo? So now you getting are you getting or you
getting toasted? Now you've got now you've got the eye
in the sky on you. So you got to be careful.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
That's why I said, wait a minute, did he really
tweet it out like that, like publicly?
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Like in order to do that, you got to be
that boy.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
And there a certain level of confidence you got to
carry when you talk trash like that on social media.
That's what I was asking. Now, I know who Joey
reporter junr is you know? So you know Deshaun al
Ed boy? You you on my radar, boy that you
want one you talk, you gotta walk with baby.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
And that's the thing is is that he might have
been talking about Alan Bazar, but all people going to
see is that that receiver beat you. So matter who
you talked about, even though that the receiver that beat
you had nothing to do with it. You didn't say
nothing about him. You was talking about him. But hey,
that's on him. Now it's out there now, O Joe,
he said it, Oh Joe. The Cowboys many don't say
(13:06):
they had something brewing all right now? Traded for George Pickens,
they will send a twenty twenty six third round pick
and a twenty twenty seventh fifth round pick to the
Steelers for Pickings and a twenty twenty seven sixth round pick.
The Cowboys have been searching for a legit wide receiver
alongside CD, but it's Pickings the answer for the Dallas
(13:26):
DN right, he's asked, got Jayden Blue, Cede Lamb, George Pickett,
and Jake Ferguson along with Dak Prescott at the quarterback.
Oh Joe, Did the Steelers good enough for Pickett? Yeah?
I think I think they have to.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
I'm not worried about with the Steelers, guy, I ain't
really thinking about them. The fact that you let one
of the better players in the NFL go despite the
issues and the problem that he's had.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Forget that.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
You just made Dallas better. You just made Dallas better.
A lot of people in the chat they might not
understand how good George pickings. Actually is he needs this.
He needed to change the scenery. Not only did he
get to change the scenery, he went to America's team.
This is perfect for that. This is very very good
for that, because not only is Ceedee Lamber number one,
you got your another number one in there too, you
(14:13):
got your another number one that get his head off
the goal post from anywhere, slants, hitches, deep balls, whatever
it may be. Dak Prescott has to be thanking the
football guards for this addition to his offense. It makes
him better, especially the nfcast. The Eagles, they got Devontae Smith,
they got aj Brown, The Commanders they got Deebo Samer,
they got Terry McLaurin. The Giants, well, the Giants only
(14:35):
have elak neighbors. I'm not sure that the quarterback situation
is still questionable. They have James, they have Russell Wilson.
But the Dallas Cowboys should make some noises year despite
their defensive roles that have been issues for them, especially
stopping the run. Do they should score thirty five to
forty a game? They should score thirty five forty game.
It shouldn't be no issues. I don't care now about
your running game.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
To me.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
I'm not saying this equivalent to get Sakwon Barkley. I'm
just saying the addition of George Pickens will make them
offensively that much better, especially if whoever the office of
coordinator is, I can't remember his name hither using Brian shot.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Yeah, he's the head coach, so he's the coordinator.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Man, they're gonna be straight. Man, they don't be straight. Now,
don't be surprised. And I'm gonna say it here first.
And there's no disrespecting my Eagles. Eagles, you know, I
love you all, My Eagles fans, you know I love you.
No respect the commanders.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
I love y'all.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
But don't be shocked if the god damn Cowboys when
the NSC's simply because yeah, will be shot at one edition.
I'm telling you, I will be shocked. I'm telling you
it makes a quarterback job. But I'm.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
I've been telling yo this since we had Nightcap. I said,
it's called production in tolerance, and as long as production
is here, tolerance will be here. Tolerance will never supersede production.
I told man, I said, don't choe. I'm telling you,
I said, the team will tolerate you until they can react.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Remember we had that talk, right, Remember I told y'all
talk with pick Remember after I told you I talked
to him.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Have you noticed you haven't had any issues from Pickens
after that point that? I think it was the local
Kansas City game Christmas. Yeah, the Kansas City game happened.
Remember he didn't run. They read the red cover two.
(16:31):
Oh yeah, that's how he did.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Yeah yeah, yeah, but but but again, but again, he
needed to change the senior on. It's a good thing
for him. He's an immense talent on. He his name
needs to be the conversation of the top ten receivers
when it comes to not only production because he has
the talent to do it.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
All shoton him as do is use him the right
way to his strengths. He's gonna be tremendous for the Cowboys. Hey, look,
I'm just trying to figure out what it is and
going on in Pittsburgh that all these receivers keep getting
up out of there. I don't know, but uh, uncle oja,
I got a confession for that. Man. I've been a
long time Cowboys fan. Man. You know jed you from
(17:13):
Arkansas and you ain't j'ell alumni. Listen. Yeah, I'm happy
for us as Cowboys fans, and uh, I'm looking forward
to us having a pretty solid season. Man, That's all
I'm saying. I know I had to get to know
y'all before I told y'all that, cause I know how
y'all be. I figured. But you know what I figured
as much being from Arkansas and now Arkansas is close
(17:34):
to Dallas, I didn't think me I was gonna say,
like you probably yeah because everybody because a lot of
people that I know from Arkansas they do yeah, yeah, yeah,
they root for the Cowboys. So I'm not surprised by this. Uh,
but I agree with you, O Joe. I do think
(17:55):
this this significant helps their offense. Now, the question is
are they who do going out? Who the hell they
go out blocking for? Uh? Oh whole life? They got
a little makeshif old life right now. Huh yeah. Do
I think they're gonna be all right? Though, They're gonna
be all right, I'm and you know what can the
Eagles do, o Joe?
Speaker 2 (18:12):
They can run the ball boy and they can throw
it and the block they got, they got the quarter back.
Oh yeah, oh my goodness, I got all there's you go. Yeah,
and listen, this is important. This is important. Ye have
a pick too on this is this is this in
the contract. Yeh man, there you go right there. He
needs to get the I know he's seen Jamal Chase,
(18:33):
He's seen Justin Jefferson, he see T Higgins and everybody
else getting paid.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
He deserves to be paid that upper echelon of one
of the top receivers in the league. And this is
his year. This is this, this is his year. You
you you no problems, no issue, no attitude, no no
playing around. This is the money. If you go out there,
handy your business. Yes it. I'm trying to get I'm
trying to be that thirty million dollar receiver range. We're
gonna throwing the ball. Yeah, he gonna get it, man, Yes, sir.
(19:07):
Who you think run the trade? Ojo? The Cowboys won
the trade. The goddamn still has it. Ain't got no
ain't even figure out the quarterback situation yet.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
I don't care how many picks you got, third round,
two six, second round, first round.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Man, you have no quarterback. So I see them finishing
fourth the division this year. Someone tweeted, Ojo Dallas just
broke the golden rule never by a wide receiver. Mike
Tomlin is selling. Do you agree? No?
Speaker 2 (19:40):
I'm not sure how that's a gold in the rule.
I don't understand. Because every every every every sea left
to Brown.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
How did hold on? Okay, hold on, hold on, Mark
tab is Bright? How did that work out? I'm not sure.
I can't remember. We went, okay, Antonio, Brown girls.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
When he left, we're everywhere went, oh you talking about
what they did personally? Now I can't touch on now,
I'm I'm okay, I see what you need.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
No, so he worked out?
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Well, okay, how about Chase claytonand okay, okay, go ahead,
go ahead, Deontay Johnson.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
He hasn't been able to get his put it in
the mud yet. Okay.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Three teams, three teams and three And if he didn't know,
he's in Cleveland right now, right, yeah, him and get you.
They're gonna they're gonna do damage. Where did where did
he get traded? To Carolina? Carolina?
Speaker 1 (20:30):
He got he went, he went to Carolina, Carolina? To
where and then he went somewhere else? Right? Yeah? And
what the bottle boy do o? Joe? Joe? What you
laughing at Joe? Yeah, I'm just asking.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Hey, Hey, we're gonna we're gonna be alright, though, We're
gonna be alright.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
So I can understand. I can understand what the tweeter
is said. Never by receiver. Uh, san Antonio Holmes, Uh,
plaques made plaque had that great? Had that one season
that he played with the Giants they won the Bowl.
Mike Wallace, Uh, he kind of didn't have he I mean,
he kind of bounced around.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
He had a pretty good year in Baltimore. But I
think he got he went to didn't he go when
he go?
Speaker 1 (21:24):
First? He went to Miami. Didn't he go to Miami?
Miami first? Or Minnesota he went to I think you
think Mike Wallace went to Minnesota. Mint went to Miami first.
I can't remember, and then he ended up going to Baltimore, right,
I don't remember. I remember that Nick. Mike was fast
hold on, what are you trying to say? You're saying
the wide receivers they come from the Stellers, they don't
(21:47):
do nothing when they lead. I don't I don't know
why they have these issues when they're in Pittsburgh. That's
what I don't get, because they, I mean, they're mintle talented.
Santonio Holmes with Superowl MVP OJO Yeah, and then let
him walk yeah, ab and he still might because he's
(22:10):
a Hall of Fame Ballent. I just think he's gonna
have to wait a lot longer than what he should
have based on the numbers that he put up OJO.
That's all I'm saying. Claypool, I don't know what it
happened to him. Martavis Bryant, we know he had some issues,
but you look at the receiver, then what thing Stevels
can do? Ojo? They could drafted.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
I don't always they're stealers. They listen, the Steelers, the Bengals,
who else always have a receiver.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
The Cowboys, Uh, they had Manuel Sanders, and Manuel Sanders
was great in Denver. But they just couldn't pay everybody.
So I mean some of them, but some of the
guys that they kept they ended up having issues and
ended up leaving. Is Claypool still in the league. I'm
not sure. I'm not sure. I don't I'm not sorry.
(22:59):
I know I know one thing.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
This is this is this is do it, do it
die do a season for George Pickens. His back is
against the wall. He deserves to be paid. I understand
the talent. You know, the talent people in the chat
that actually watched the game of football. Despite whatever issues
he may have on field sometime some of the antics,
he is immensely talented when used the right way. I
(23:25):
think that I think the Steelers kind of didn't do
him do justice and obviously he didn't help.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
His We have no quarterback. Yeah, I think that that too.
So what he did with what he had to work with,
he did the best he could.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Now one where he's going now with another elite partner
on the other side of you.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
But he gonna eat. I'm telling you he's gonna eat.
He gonna eat. As you mentioned the NFC East, you
got CD Pickings neighbors, uh Deebo, McLaurin, DeVante and A. J. Brown.
Is that the best? Is that the best? Is that
the best the division for.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Receiving, Absolutely, I'm from from top to the bottom. Now
there are other the other good receivers and other divisions,
but they were they take the cave, right, they take
the cave.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Yeah. I mean most of you like, yeah, they don't
have I mean, did I think that I think that
the NFC North with Detroit, Chicago, Minnesota, Green Bay they
got they got that, look, but not not like that that.
They got some good, not like this n f C.
(24:35):
Let's see n C West Nope, n f C South Nope. Yeah,
NFC North. We just mentioned the North. A f C South, No,
a f C West. Now, n C South got some
good because they got Travis Hark, they got Brian Thomas,
(24:56):
jun they got they got Tanked, they got Nico. Yeah,
Tennessee got Now Tennessee got.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Tennessee got Counting Riddley by himself.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Huh, because I think he is by himself because Traylon
Brooks a working. He ain't working. And then you got
the ones in Indy and he got Michael squad with Pitt.
It's not like the NFC East though. Yeah, because a
Ding has been to the Pro Bowl. McLaurin, Deebo neighbors, CD,
(25:30):
pik Bench. I think Picky has been to the Pro
Bowl once. Davante Yeah, so all these guys the Pro
Bowl players. Yeah, NFC, he's got the best receiver. Falcons
fans are upset that the first round draft pick Jalen
Walker will wear number eleven. Julio Jones is the fastest
player in history to ten thousand eleven, twelve thousand and
thirteen thousand yards. He most severns, averaging one hundred yards
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a game, most season with two hundred and fifty yards.
But the Falcons gave away his number eleven with the
quickness and retire. Should that Falcons have given away a
number eleven? No, yes, they should. They should not have
given it away, absolutely not. He's the best wide receiver
and Falcons. Yeah, and you know they look, I know,
(26:15):
Drake dre and what's the other one? White?
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Yeah, they had you know, Billy White Shoes Johnson, they
had Alfred Jenkins.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Different, different but you know, you know, owners, I don't
think that, Yeah, they didn't leave on the best.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
The owners don't see see it the same way we
see it, you know, and understanding what they meant for
the franchise away fans see Julio, I mean one of
the best, not actually one of one of the best
all time. Not only that, but one of the best,
the best receiver to come out of your organization. And
they just don't see the value in that, especially the
retire jersey.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
Yeah, I guess that don't seem to think nobody should
get the Jerry retired to the well let's see if
they give that number eight away? What what? What number
is U? Michael Penny Jr. Because Matt Ryan was a
right Matt Ryan was too. Let's see if there's somebody
get that too. You think they're gonna get that two
away on Jones?
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Yeah, yeah, listen, I mean there was a there was
also a little a little not turmoil, just a little incident.
Somebody with the brown took two from Yeah, he already
had it, or he took what you mean, I mean,
so another player. I'm not sure who the player is.
I don't don't, I don't don't quote me, I don't,
I don't. I don't want to butcher anybody's name. But
(27:39):
he chose to and should don't have to wear twelves.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
I'm saying. I'm saying he new to the Browns and
he already been there Jo, That's what I'm asking. Yeah,
I'm not sure. I'm not sure. Yeah, but I definitely
think Julio they should not have given that number, that
number eleven to anybody that that's Julio Jones. I want
to wear it, you want. I wouldn't either. That's how
That's why I'd be wondering when some of these kids
(28:02):
be coming out and they be wanting some of these
legends numbers. I'll be like, man, why would you don't
even do that? Yeah, yeah, you see, I do. Carter
wanted to wear fifty six for the Giants.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Yeah, fifty six and number eleven because Phil Simms wore
number eleven.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
It's retired. Field with Phil ninety two. Strays numbers retired.
I think, uh uh uh is don Merritith numbers retired? Maybe?
Why Tittle? I think jazz Up don't have many numbers retired,
(28:37):
but they got a few. I think Stray, I know straight,
I think Strays, l t Sims, damn damn. Oh yeah,
(29:02):
oh well mhm yeah, but it definitely should have Julio
Jones numbers should be They shouldn't. Nobody should wear that number.
He was He was too good and I get it.
See sometimes I think, oh, Jo, people allow the last
year to ruin ten or eleven really great years and
although it didn't end on the best terms, he's still Julio.
(29:25):
He still he still did a great job for that organization.
He was a model citizen in the community, and that
should you know. Yeah, I mean for him to be
to be what he was for that organization, the numbers
that he put up. I definitely think he was more
than deserving to have that number retired. But it happened
(29:48):
the age. I remember when I left I left for
I left a Denver and with the with the Baltimore
they gave my number Chris. It's Chris, last name, I
forget now you on Super Bowls over that? Then? Yeah?
What was christ? Uh? Damn, I forget the guy's name
(30:10):
now in two thousand? Who wore number two eighty four
in two thousand? But uh, when I came back, it
was in my locker brod say, you actually thought I
was gonna come back here and You're gonna be eighty
four and I was gonna be another number? You thought that? Man? Please?
(30:37):
Chris Cole? Yeah, Chris Cole, where's he FROMA take that? Then?
But I've seen well, you know, playmaker. He liked, he
liked for the wire receivers. The words numbers though, Uh Michael,
oh yeahuse because he said they talk about him. Where
they talking about Yeah, they got their own little club
going over there. They don't really talk. I mean like
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they don't really. They retire a whole lot of numbers,
like the Steelers. I mean, it's only a handful of
people that had that, like Joe Green. I think I
think Joe Green seventy five, Terry Bradshaw twelve, Ernie Startner.
I think Ernie was seventy two. But they ain't a
whole lot. Oh DeAndre Carter was. But I mean if
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they retired all them Steelers, great man, you ain't gonna
have no numbers like Boston. I mean you think you
think about Swap eighty eight, eighty two, thirty two, twelve,
forty seven. I think Mail Blunt might number might be
retired Blunt. I mean, look at think of all those
Hall of Famers. So they had like five or six
(31:43):
on defense at one time, two receivers, the center, running back, quarterback.
So that's five on offense Joe Green, Mail Blunt, Jack
Ham Lambert, Donnie Schell five on defense. You got ten
Hall of Famers out of your twenty two. How you
like that? O't Joe? You're coaching the Hall of Fame
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and your owner was a deal. Yeah, follow him and
you could make a case L. C. Greenwood should have
been in the Hall of Fame. But I definitely think
juliob uh huh, Yes, officially like Joe Greed, the volume
But I really hope George Figuans figures it out. I mean,
he's too talented, O Joe to be bouncing around. Uh.
You know, sometimes people will give you grace one of you, Okay,
wasn't the right situation a quarterback, you go to the
Cowboys like okay, but don't don't don't, don't. Don't go
anywhere else but the Cowboys. Now, if the money, you know,
you want more money than I totally understand that. But
(00:33):
don't have the issues that you had in Pittsburgh here
in Dallas. That's all. That's all I'm saying, Like Deyontay Johnson,
like Bro.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
You and you on three team last or something, right,
you get so hopefully.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Because I agree with you, Ojoe. I think he's too talented.
He can run, he can catch, He's strongly physical, got
great catch radius, great run after the catch, can high
point the football. He can block what he wants to block.
But the problem is a lot a lot of these
young receivers, though Joe, they only see value in catching
touchdown the passes. They don't see value in clearing it
(01:08):
out and let us to let Ceedee Lamb come in
behind him and catch it. They don't see value in
blocking and the running back instead of getting a ten
yard he got a fifty yard touchdown. So you gotta
find value in other things when you're not doing what
the thing you see is value. More he sees valuable
it's catching a bunch of passes, scoring touchdowns. But there's
also value value in opening it up so ce d
(01:28):
Lamb and Jake Ferguson, and maybe the third receiver gets
a catch or a block that you know a guy
could have got ten yards, You got ten yards. Maybe
you springing for forty or fifty. You have to find
other ways to bring value and to have value other
than the thing that you think is valuable, which is
catching passes and catching touchdowns. But I hope he gets
it figured out because I do think he's immensely talented.
(01:50):
I think he has a bright future. But don't squander
this opportunity, young man. Unk I told you I got him.
He good. We had the conversation.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
That's why, after that conversation I told you I had
with him, we ain't had no issue since.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Now, whatever whatever the feeling, I ain't playing no football field.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
My point exactly, my point exactly. So what you think
he ain't have no problems off the field. He's the
all part problems off the field. To stay with me
real quick, now, I want you to see, now w
Wash the George pick as we get in Dallas, and
I'm saying because if he if he went the goddamn Dallas.
I'm part of Dallas too, Now, w Washington get okay.
So anytime, any time you make a mistake, everybody makes
(02:27):
sure you come back and you blame me.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
It's my fault. I let y'all die now, I mean, man,
I don't care about Look, you're gonna make mistakes, but
I say talk about that. I'm talking about that. I'm
talking about that too, all of them. Because it's hard
to tell if you know obviously, you know sometimes God
runs the wrong ride. The quarterback was like put his
hands up and he's like, you know, he a point
(02:50):
to himself. That's really the only way you know, unless
you know you played in the offense and you know
the rock combination and what goes with what a lot
of time I see West Coast offenses, I kind of
I'm pretty familiar. Uh. They might call the terminology something
different now because it's evolved since Bill Walsh. It well,
Paul Brown, that was Paul Brown's offense, and then Bill
(03:10):
Walsh it expanded upon them and gave it the West
Coast offense. It's expanded. But I have a pretty good
general knowledge of teams that run that system, what the
route combination, what what it should look and so I
feel very comfortable when I say something that that I'm
correct to a fairly degree of certainty. But uh, he
can definitely help the Cowboys. Cowboys have been looking for
(03:32):
a number two since he got there. Uh, they had
Gallop gallup, you know, had had a good year, got
the big contract. He just couldn't stay healthy, Joe, and
he wasn't the same player after he came up that
knee injury. He tored it. I think he towards a
c L. He wasn't the same. It wasn't he wasn't
he wasn't the same playing.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
It's tall the a c L, the a c L,
the a c L. Uh, they got damn keys. Is
very very difficult to come back, especially for skilled position players.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
I think quarterbacks. You know, if if if you're not
much of a dual threat, which most quarterbacks are now,
it's hard to come back. Man, it's It normally takes
your year unless your agent Peters agent Peters and got
people got people thinking that he just had an ankle spring.
He came back and had a better season the next
year and what it. Yeah, he went for two thousand
(04:18):
with the MVP and Offensive Player of the Year. Yeah,
he was almost broke on Edie's record. He was what
he had twenty ninety seven, So he was nine yards
short of breaking Edie's record, the closest anyone's being. He
single handedly got that team to the playoffs because his
quarterback was Princeville partner and they had Sidney Rice. Remember
(04:39):
Sidney Rice? Yeah? I remember Cidy. Yeah. M hmm. But uh, Dan,
you said you wanted to see pick go somewhere else
and and see, Well you get your wishes. Oh, I
think he got his wish. Only did he get his wishes?
(04:59):
Now be have consistent quarterback play.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
I don't care what the check or what people of
the world may think of Dak Prescott. He's still an
adequate quarterback in this NFL. He's better than what he
had in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Who you who you telling? You know?
Speaker 2 (05:12):
So obviously in that NFC, in that NFC East, it's
a good thing for the Cowboys offensively. So Dak has
someone else outside of Ceedee Lamb and I can't remember
the Titans name who's actually good. Fergus is a reliable target.
But the ad, the ad George pickens to the ham
(05:33):
and to that weaponry for for for for Dak to
have offensively, I think they're gonna do numbers, they gonna
do wonders. It just it just boasts that offense and listen,
as long as they use young Bull the right way.
Man skys and limits for him, skys and limits for him.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Steelers dB Deshaun Elliott does not want Allen Bazzard to
be traded to his team under the i G post.
Talking about Lazard being involved in the heavy trade rumors
with Pittsburgh, Deshaun commented, he's so boody. Wait wait he
said it again. You can see you see the poll
your screen, you can see what you can see exactly
what I see. Damn, he's so cheeks l o l okay.
(06:13):
I can't see it that good man, you know in
my eyes? Bad Now, well, well everybody everybody else see it.
Well what happened? Now?
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Say it? Get temple because it's too small up there
Allen Lazard is being involved in trade.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
The Steelers are possibly possibly trade for Alan Haazaard. Deshaun
commented under the post talking about the trade, and he said,
he's cheaps. What's deja, DeShawn Elliott, he's a dB for
the Pittsburgh Steelers. Steelers are involved in I get it
a who's a receiver? Oh yore, you can read you
(06:50):
see what he said right there. Okay, I don't know
what it is. That's what he says. I don't I
didn't get anything like that. You know exactly what I
need to be on the wall.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
I hope the trade does go through and Alan Lazzard
does go to the Seilers because now the Steelers have
to find a replacement for George Pickens, so somebody got
to come in there. They need a body somewhere. I
can't wait to see that, DeShawn Deshaun Elliott. Yeah, shoeie
And he liked that. He liked that.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Is he like that He's supposed to be that boy
at dB. Oh Joe, O Joe, oh Joe. I'm just
all I said, Okay. Stealer Deshaun Elliott does not want
Alan Lazard traded to his team under an i G
post talking about Lazarre being involved in heavy trade room
rumors with Pittsburgh. Deshaun commented, Deshaun Deshaun Elliott blue check mark,
(07:41):
blue check mark.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
He's so cheeks yell. I'm asking you, is he like
that he told about his team? Is he that boy?
Is he the oh shoe you?
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Oh Joe? We both do the same thing. I don't know,
is you? I don't know? Listen, what do you know? Yeah?
Starting good? Like that? He like he like he's the
next coming ReBs. I guess he said he. I guess
he said. He said. He's saying lizard is like that?
Is he certain? Is he Ramsey? Is he? I mean he?
(08:12):
I'm okay. That's that's all I want to know. I
just want to know. Oh wo wo wo wo wo woa.
Whoa you just said all year long? You say you
like when players speak up. How it is that? I
like that?
Speaker 2 (08:24):
So what does it matter if he's like, no, because
do that to the opponent, not to somebody coming to you. No,
you said you won't players to tell the truth, even
with their own team. That's what you saying. Ok ok
ok ok okay, Yeah, I like that, but I'm just
listen like talking like that.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
You got to be that boy. Why he telling the truth?
Still got to be that boy. So another So unless
you're not the boy, you can't You.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Can't be saying somebody else suck and then you ain't
good at your job either.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
That don't make no motherfucker say just because I'm not
good at my job, that don't mean he good and
he is. Two things can be true. I can say,
get my job and he's fucking two things could be true.
This is not a mutually exclusive endeavor here, Hey, listen, listen.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
I'm an avid, I'm an aviage, I'm an avid football fan.
I'm I'm an enthusiast. I'm very passionate about this. So
obviously I'm asking you know how much I love the
dB position. People in the chat, you know how much
I love the dB position. And I study the players
that are at the position most of the time. It's
most of the big names. So the fact that I'm asking,
is he.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Even like that? I need I need to see him
on film. Young Bull to Shaun Elliott, I'm watching this year.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
I love you, I respect you, But you talk about
my receivers, you talk about a friend of mine.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
So now now I got my eyes on you.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
So now throughout the season, obviously when the Steelers played,
you gotta play the Bengals, So I want to see
what you do against Chase Huh.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
I want to see what you do again. But Lazard
ain't chased. I'm sure. I don't think he was saying
that they had it if they would the ball.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
On somebody else cheeks. So that means you got to
be that boy. So now I'm expecting I was a
trash talker. I was a trash That's what I did.
I did that thirteen years great. You know when I
talked for a reason because I could walk everything up back.
So if you call them one person trash, then you
got to be that boy. Everybody everybody that talk trash.
Ain't you think everybody sold everybody to talk trash. Jordan
and Kobe No, but oh only people that talk. Hey,
(10:30):
think about this. The people that actually had the personality
and the balls and the golfs that actually talk trash
are actually that boy.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
I mean it helps. Hey, I'm excited. I listen, I'm excited.
I like stuff like that. Uh, now did they did
Lazard respond back? I don't know. Did you did Lazard
respond back, and well, he hadn't responded back at the
time that we we came on the here. I think
(11:01):
the thing is O Joe. Now with social media, uh
and and and Karan and that you were talking about this.
In basketball, what players think of other players in their
own locker room is differently than what we at the
outside thanks of certain players. So maybe the ship maybe
maybe they put maybe he thought it, we thought like this,
(11:21):
oh Joe, but we didn't have a platform to go say, yeah,
he's some cheeks he booted. We didn't have no platform.
If somebody was talking about a trade or somebody was
saying something, we couldn't go comment under it. I like
this though we read about it in the newspaper or
we saw we saw it, well, there's no way for
him to comment on it. Or we might say, oh Joe,
he's We might say, oh, he sucked amongst us in
(11:44):
the locker room, but didn't nobody that wasn't in the
locker room would hear it. I like, now it's there
for both everybody to see it. They got a blue
check mark, so it's like but also unless it's unless
he was hacken. But now he wasn't hacked. But this
is what it does, though, Uncle.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
You when you put it out there like this and
on social media, now you're gonna have everybody watching you.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Not only that.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
So if something is something that goes wrong on your
end during the season, what's the first thing they're gonna
bring up?
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Bingo? So now you getting are you getting or you
getting toasted? Now you've got now you've got the eye
in the sky on you. So you got to be careful.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
That's why I said, wait a minute, did he really
tweet it out like that, like publicly?
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Like in order to do that, you got to be
that boy.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
And there a certain level of confidence you got to
carry when you talk trash like that on social media.
That's what I was asking. Now, I know who Joey
reporter junr is you know? So you know Deshaun al
Ed boy? You you on my radar, boy that you
want one you talk, you gotta walk with baby.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
And that's the thing is is that he might have
been talking about Alan Bazar, but all people going to
see is that that receiver beat you. So matter who
you talked about, even though that the receiver that beat
you had nothing to do with it. You didn't say
nothing about him. You was talking about him. But hey,
that's on him. Now it's out there now, O Joe,
he said it, Oh Joe. The Cowboys many don't say
(13:06):
they had something brewing all right now? Traded for George Pickens,
they will send a twenty twenty six third round pick
and a twenty twenty seventh fifth round pick to the
Steelers for Pickings and a twenty twenty seven sixth round pick.
The Cowboys have been searching for a legit wide receiver
alongside CD, but it's Pickings the answer for the Dallas
(13:26):
DN right, he's asked, got Jayden Blue, Cede Lamb, George Pickett,
and Jake Ferguson along with Dak Prescott at the quarterback.
Oh Joe, Did the Steelers good enough for Pickett? Yeah?
I think I think they have to.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
I'm not worried about with the Steelers, guy, I ain't
really thinking about them. The fact that you let one
of the better players in the NFL go despite the
issues and the problem that he's had.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Forget that.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
You just made Dallas better. You just made Dallas better.
A lot of people in the chat they might not
understand how good George pickings. Actually is he needs this.
He needed to change the scenery. Not only did he
get to change the scenery, he went to America's team.
This is perfect for that. This is very very good
for that, because not only is Ceedee Lamber number one,
you got your another number one in there too, you
(14:13):
got your another number one that get his head off
the goal post from anywhere, slants, hitches, deep balls, whatever
it may be. Dak Prescott has to be thanking the
football guards for this addition to his offense. It makes
him better, especially the nfcast. The Eagles, they got Devontae Smith,
they got aj Brown, The Commanders they got Deebo Samer,
they got Terry McLaurin. The Giants, well, the Giants only
(14:35):
have elak neighbors. I'm not sure that the quarterback situation
is still questionable. They have James, they have Russell Wilson.
But the Dallas Cowboys should make some noises year despite
their defensive roles that have been issues for them, especially
stopping the run. Do they should score thirty five to
forty a game? They should score thirty five forty game.
It shouldn't be no issues. I don't care now about
your running game.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
To me.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
I'm not saying this equivalent to get Sakwon Barkley. I'm
just saying the addition of George Pickens will make them
offensively that much better, especially if whoever the office of
coordinator is, I can't remember his name hither using Brian shot.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Yeah, he's the head coach, so he's the coordinator.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Man, they're gonna be straight. Man, they don't be straight. Now,
don't be surprised. And I'm gonna say it here first.
And there's no disrespecting my Eagles. Eagles, you know, I
love you all, My Eagles fans, you know I love you.
No respect the commanders.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
I love y'all.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
But don't be shocked if the god damn Cowboys when
the NSC's simply because yeah, will be shot at one edition.
I'm telling you, I will be shocked. I'm telling you
it makes a quarterback job. But I'm.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
I've been telling yo this since we had Nightcap. I said,
it's called production in tolerance, and as long as production
is here, tolerance will be here. Tolerance will never supersede production.
I told man, I said, don't choe. I'm telling you,
I said, the team will tolerate you until they can react.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Remember we had that talk, right, Remember I told y'all
talk with pick Remember after I told you I talked
to him.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Have you noticed you haven't had any issues from Pickens
after that point that? I think it was the local
Kansas City game Christmas. Yeah, the Kansas City game happened.
Remember he didn't run. They read the red cover two.
(16:31):
Oh yeah, that's how he did.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Yeah yeah, yeah, but but but again, but again, he
needed to change the senior on. It's a good thing
for him. He's an immense talent on. He his name
needs to be the conversation of the top ten receivers
when it comes to not only production because he has
the talent to do it.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
All shoton him as do is use him the right
way to his strengths. He's gonna be tremendous for the Cowboys. Hey, look,
I'm just trying to figure out what it is and
going on in Pittsburgh that all these receivers keep getting
up out of there. I don't know, but uh, uncle oja,
I got a confession for that. Man. I've been a
long time Cowboys fan. Man. You know jed you from
(17:13):
Arkansas and you ain't j'ell alumni. Listen. Yeah, I'm happy
for us as Cowboys fans, and uh, I'm looking forward
to us having a pretty solid season. Man, That's all
I'm saying. I know I had to get to know
y'all before I told y'all that, cause I know how
y'all be. I figured. But you know what I figured
as much being from Arkansas and now Arkansas is close
(17:34):
to Dallas, I didn't think me I was gonna say,
like you probably yeah because everybody because a lot of
people that I know from Arkansas they do yeah, yeah, yeah,
they root for the Cowboys. So I'm not surprised by this. Uh,
but I agree with you, O Joe. I do think
(17:55):
this this significant helps their offense. Now, the question is
are they who do going out? Who the hell they
go out blocking for? Uh? Oh whole life? They got
a little makeshif old life right now. Huh yeah. Do
I think they're gonna be all right? Though, They're gonna
be all right, I'm and you know what can the
Eagles do, o Joe?
Speaker 2 (18:12):
They can run the ball boy and they can throw
it and the block they got, they got the quarter back.
Oh yeah, oh my goodness, I got all there's you go. Yeah,
and listen, this is important. This is important. Ye have
a pick too on this is this is this in
the contract. Yeh man, there you go right there. He
needs to get the I know he's seen Jamal Chase,
(18:33):
He's seen Justin Jefferson, he see T Higgins and everybody
else getting paid.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
He deserves to be paid that upper echelon of one
of the top receivers in the league. And this is
his year. This is this, this is his year. You
you you no problems, no issue, no attitude, no no
playing around. This is the money. If you go out there,
handy your business. Yes it. I'm trying to get I'm
trying to be that thirty million dollar receiver range. We're
gonna throwing the ball. Yeah, he gonna get it, man, Yes, sir.
(19:07):
Who you think run the trade? Ojo? The Cowboys won
the trade. The goddamn still has it. Ain't got no
ain't even figure out the quarterback situation yet.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
I don't care how many picks you got, third round,
two six, second round, first round.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Man, you have no quarterback. So I see them finishing
fourth the division this year. Someone tweeted, Ojo Dallas just
broke the golden rule never by a wide receiver. Mike
Tomlin is selling. Do you agree? No?
Speaker 2 (19:40):
I'm not sure how that's a gold in the rule.
I don't understand. Because every every every every sea left
to Brown.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
How did hold on? Okay, hold on, hold on, Mark
tab is Bright? How did that work out? I'm not sure.
I can't remember. We went, okay, Antonio, Brown girls.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
When he left, we're everywhere went, oh you talking about
what they did personally? Now I can't touch on now,
I'm I'm okay, I see what you need.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
No, so he worked out?
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Well, okay, how about Chase claytonand okay, okay, go ahead,
go ahead, Deontay Johnson.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
He hasn't been able to get his put it in
the mud yet. Okay.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Three teams, three teams and three And if he didn't know,
he's in Cleveland right now, right, yeah, him and get you.
They're gonna they're gonna do damage. Where did where did
he get traded? To Carolina? Carolina?
Speaker 1 (20:30):
He got he went, he went to Carolina, Carolina? To
where and then he went somewhere else? Right? Yeah? And
what the bottle boy do o? Joe? Joe? What you
laughing at Joe? Yeah, I'm just asking.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Hey, Hey, we're gonna we're gonna be alright, though, We're
gonna be alright.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
So I can understand. I can understand what the tweeter
is said. Never by receiver. Uh, san Antonio Holmes, Uh,
plaques made plaque had that great? Had that one season
that he played with the Giants they won the Bowl.
Mike Wallace, Uh, he kind of didn't have he I mean,
he kind of bounced around.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
He had a pretty good year in Baltimore. But I
think he got he went to didn't he go when
he go?
Speaker 1 (21:24):
First? He went to Miami. Didn't he go to Miami?
Miami first? Or Minnesota he went to I think you
think Mike Wallace went to Minnesota. Mint went to Miami first.
I can't remember, and then he ended up going to Baltimore, right,
I don't remember. I remember that Nick. Mike was fast
hold on, what are you trying to say? You're saying
the wide receivers they come from the Stellers, they don't
(21:47):
do nothing when they lead. I don't I don't know
why they have these issues when they're in Pittsburgh. That's
what I don't get, because they, I mean, they're mintle talented.
Santonio Holmes with Superowl MVP OJO Yeah, and then let
him walk yeah, ab and he still might because he's
(22:10):
a Hall of Fame Ballent. I just think he's gonna
have to wait a lot longer than what he should
have based on the numbers that he put up OJO.
That's all I'm saying. Claypool, I don't know what it
happened to him. Martavis Bryant, we know he had some issues,
but you look at the receiver, then what thing Stevels
can do? Ojo? They could drafted.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
I don't always they're stealers. They listen, the Steelers, the Bengals,
who else always have a receiver.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
The Cowboys, Uh, they had Manuel Sanders, and Manuel Sanders
was great in Denver. But they just couldn't pay everybody.
So I mean some of them, but some of the
guys that they kept they ended up having issues and
ended up leaving. Is Claypool still in the league. I'm
not sure. I'm not sure. I don't I'm not sorry.
(22:59):
I know I know one thing.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
This is this is this is do it, do it
die do a season for George Pickens. His back is
against the wall. He deserves to be paid. I understand
the talent. You know, the talent people in the chat
that actually watched the game of football. Despite whatever issues
he may have on field sometime some of the antics,
he is immensely talented when used the right way. I
(23:25):
think that I think the Steelers kind of didn't do
him do justice and obviously he didn't help.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
His We have no quarterback. Yeah, I think that that too.
So what he did with what he had to work with,
he did the best he could.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Now one where he's going now with another elite partner
on the other side of you.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
But he gonna eat. I'm telling you he's gonna eat.
He gonna eat. As you mentioned the NFC East, you
got CD Pickings neighbors, uh Deebo, McLaurin, DeVante and A. J. Brown.
Is that the best? Is that the best? Is that
the best the division for.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Receiving, Absolutely, I'm from from top to the bottom. Now
there are other the other good receivers and other divisions,
but they were they take the cave, right, they take
the cave.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Yeah. I mean most of you like, yeah, they don't
have I mean, did I think that I think that
the NFC North with Detroit, Chicago, Minnesota, Green Bay they
got they got that, look, but not not like that that.
They got some good, not like this n f C.
(24:35):
Let's see n C West Nope, n f C South Nope. Yeah,
NFC North. We just mentioned the North. A f C South, No,
a f C West. Now, n C South got some
good because they got Travis Hark, they got Brian Thomas,
(24:56):
jun they got they got Tanked, they got Nico. Yeah,
Tennessee got Now Tennessee got.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Tennessee got Counting Riddley by himself.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Huh, because I think he is by himself because Traylon
Brooks a working. He ain't working. And then you got
the ones in Indy and he got Michael squad with Pitt.
It's not like the NFC East though. Yeah, because a
Ding has been to the Pro Bowl. McLaurin, Deebo neighbors, CD,
(25:30):
pik Bench. I think Picky has been to the Pro
Bowl once. Davante Yeah, so all these guys the Pro
Bowl players. Yeah, NFC, he's got the best receiver. Falcons
fans are upset that the first round draft pick Jalen
Walker will wear number eleven. Julio Jones is the fastest
player in history to ten thousand eleven, twelve thousand and
thirteen thousand yards. He most severns, averaging one hundred yards
(25:53):
a game, most season with two hundred and fifty yards.
But the Falcons gave away his number eleven with the
quickness and retire. Should that Falcons have given away a
number eleven? No, yes, they should. They should not have
given it away, absolutely not. He's the best wide receiver
and Falcons. Yeah, and you know they look, I know,
(26:15):
Drake dre and what's the other one? White?
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Yeah, they had you know, Billy White Shoes Johnson, they
had Alfred Jenkins.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Different, different but you know, you know, owners, I don't
think that, Yeah, they didn't leave on the best.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
The owners don't see see it the same way we
see it, you know, and understanding what they meant for
the franchise away fans see Julio, I mean one of
the best, not actually one of one of the best
all time. Not only that, but one of the best,
the best receiver to come out of your organization. And
they just don't see the value in that, especially the
retire jersey.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
Yeah, I guess that don't seem to think nobody should
get the Jerry retired to the well let's see if
they give that number eight away? What what? What number
is U? Michael Penny Jr. Because Matt Ryan was a
right Matt Ryan was too. Let's see if there's somebody
get that too. You think they're gonna get that two
away on Jones?
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Yeah, yeah, listen, I mean there was a there was
also a little a little not turmoil, just a little incident.
Somebody with the brown took two from Yeah, he already
had it, or he took what you mean, I mean,
so another player. I'm not sure who the player is.
I don't don't, I don't don't quote me, I don't,
I don't. I don't want to butcher anybody's name. But
(27:39):
he chose to and should don't have to wear twelves.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
I'm saying. I'm saying he new to the Browns and
he already been there Jo, That's what I'm asking. Yeah,
I'm not sure. I'm not sure. Yeah, but I definitely
think Julio they should not have given that number, that
number eleven to anybody that that's Julio Jones. I want
to wear it, you want. I wouldn't either. That's how
That's why I'd be wondering when some of these kids
(28:02):
be coming out and they be wanting some of these
legends numbers. I'll be like, man, why would you don't
even do that? Yeah, yeah, you see, I do. Carter
wanted to wear fifty six for the Giants.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Yeah, fifty six and number eleven because Phil Simms wore
number eleven.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
It's retired. Field with Phil ninety two. Strays numbers retired.
I think, uh uh uh is don Merritith numbers retired? Maybe?
Why Tittle? I think jazz Up don't have many numbers retired,
(28:37):
but they got a few. I think Stray, I know straight,
I think Strays, l t Sims, damn damn. Oh yeah,
(29:02):
oh well mhm yeah, but it definitely should have Julio
Jones numbers should be They shouldn't. Nobody should wear that number.
He was He was too good and I get it.
See sometimes I think, oh, Jo, people allow the last
year to ruin ten or eleven really great years and
although it didn't end on the best terms, he's still Julio.
(29:25):
He still he still did a great job for that organization.
He was a model citizen in the community, and that
should you know. Yeah, I mean for him to be
to be what he was for that organization, the numbers
that he put up. I definitely think he was more
than deserving to have that number retired. But it happened
(29:48):
the age. I remember when I left I left for
I left a Denver and with the with the Baltimore
they gave my number Chris. It's Chris, last name, I
forget now you on Super Bowls over that? Then? Yeah?
What was christ? Uh? Damn, I forget the guy's name
(30:10):
now in two thousand? Who wore number two eighty four
in two thousand? But uh, when I came back, it
was in my locker brod say, you actually thought I
was gonna come back here and You're gonna be eighty
four and I was gonna be another number? You thought that? Man? Please?
(30:37):
Chris Cole? Yeah, Chris Cole, where's he FROMA take that? Then?
But I've seen well, you know, playmaker. He liked, he
liked for the wire receivers. The words numbers though, Uh Michael,
oh yeahuse because he said they talk about him. Where
they talking about Yeah, they got their own little club
going over there. They don't really talk. I mean like
(30:59):
they don't really. They retire a whole lot of numbers,
like the Steelers. I mean, it's only a handful of
people that had that, like Joe Green. I think I
think Joe Green seventy five, Terry Bradshaw twelve, Ernie Startner.
I think Ernie was seventy two. But they ain't a
whole lot. Oh DeAndre Carter was. But I mean if
(31:23):
they retired all them Steelers, great man, you ain't gonna
have no numbers like Boston. I mean you think you
think about Swap eighty eight, eighty two, thirty two, twelve,
forty seven. I think Mail Blunt might number might be
retired Blunt. I mean, look at think of all those
Hall of Famers. So they had like five or six
(31:43):
on defense at one time, two receivers, the center, running back, quarterback.
So that's five on offense Joe Green, Mail Blunt, Jack
Ham Lambert, Donnie Schell five on defense. You got ten
Hall of Famers out of your twenty two. How you
like that? O't Joe? You're coaching the Hall of Fame
(32:05):
and your owner was a deal. Yeah, follow him and
you could make a case L. C. Greenwood should have
been in the Hall of Fame. But I definitely think
juliob uh huh, Yes, officially like Joe Greed, the volume
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