July 15, 2025 • 47 mins
Unc and Ocho praise Garrett Wilson for new contract extension with the Jets but what does this mean for Terry McLaurin? Plus, what's next for the Jauan Jennings and more!
53:57 - Garrett Wilson signs extension
1:06:02 - Top 10 QBs entering 2025
1:16:05 - Justin Herbert Underrated?
1:30:31 - Jauan Jennings wants a new trade
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
That week out, Garrett Wilson signs a four year extension
worth one hundred and thirty million dollars, which makes him
one of the highest paid wide receivers in the NFL.
The number ten overall pick in the twenty twenty two
NFL Draft, Wilson is entering its fourth season in the NFL.
He's had at least one thousand yards every year and
posted a career high one hundred and one catches and
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seven touchdowns last year.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
I like the deal. I like the deal.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Oh Jo, they get one of the better players, they
get him locked up, they drafted him.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
He's homegrown. You know what he is.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
You, hey, you watch this guy for the last three years,
come in and out of your building. You watch him work,
show up every Sunday and Thursday or whenever the guys play,
So you know what you have.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
There is no speculation.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Well, I wonder what we're gonna get when we get
Garrett Wilson in our building. Well, you've had it in
your building for the better part of three years, so
you know exactly who in what this young man is.
I like this deal. I like ain't no haggling. Well,
I want to be the highest paid look, bro, make
me an offer. Oh yeah, when I came, I could work.
(01:05):
I could work with this.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Yeah one I can refuse.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
Yeah, absolutely work with That's because the funny thing, he
gonna hit him cross the head again. He gonna he
gonna hit him cross the head again. And we know
what Garret Wilson can be with consistent quarterback plays.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Could we saw him do it?
Speaker 4 (01:20):
As with him, I understand how specially is I understand
what he can do.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
And I'm glad he had justin fields.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
I just need for the college college quarterback.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
They have chemistry, they know each other.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Yes, I just need him to put I need them
to continue to put Garret Wilson in position to continue
to make plays and make justin field job easier. But
it's it's gonna be easy because you got that young
You got that young bell cow in the backfield that
can hit his head off the gold post from anywhere
on the field. So I think things are gonna be
a little easy for him. I'm glad he got his money.
But what it does do not to go off topic,
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but it raises the price tag for my young bull
downing there over there with the commandos. Oh, terrymcclory, who
they need to go hit it, Come on now, Scary
Terry deserve to get paid now. He's done everything. He's
been a model citizen. He wears that seat on his
chest for a reason. There's no need every time. Every
time unk, unless you're a quarterback, you gotta fight tooth
and nail for your money every time, no matter how
(02:17):
you carry yourself. You do everything the right way, you're
a perfect teammate, you say all the right things. But
when it comes time for that money, it's time to
pay your players. They do it any and everybody, no
matter how you conduct yourself.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
And my thing is, like I said, Ojo, where you
know our privy to the conversation behind the scene, what
is he asking? Is he asking for Chase and Jefferson's
money or does he want, you know, be one of
the hides paid somewhere in that twenty eight to thirty
two thirty three million dollar range.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
He've he belongs in the conversation.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
I'm not saying justin Jefferson or Jamar Chase money, but
we ain't dropping too far below that.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Okay, we look at that Garrett Wilson, basically thirty what
thirty What is that thirty two, thirty three, thirty or
forty thirty one and three and then you got one ten,
So you got about thirty two million a year.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
So that's what I said, So I put it. I
put it in that bracket on Joe.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
I think I like that bracket a little bit more
than that because you look at the body of work.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Just look at the body.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
At work in what McLaurin has done. I think he
deserves a little bit more than that. Now, this is
no disrespective what Garrett Wilson has done in this three years.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
But McLaurin and.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
What he's meant for that team, what he's meant for
that city, what he's meant for that organization, what he's
meant for that team as a captain in doing all
the right things even when things were bad.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
So you're looking at it, about thirty five a year.
What did DK get? DK got something around that that
seems to be a less you're chased unless you're Jefferson. Yeah,
that seems to be. He's the fifth highest paid by
annual value, so that seems to be a CD. CD
is a tick below I think a Jedda got thirty
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five a year, CD slotted up under that he got
thirty four year, Chase polled, vaulted, He did a mondodplantis
he polled, vaulted over everybody and broke the world record
with over forty basically over forty million a year. So
now I guess everybody else that comes along, you're gonna
be slotted somewhere between thirty and thirty three?
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Are you? Okay? But Best felt.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
He got to be. He got to be. I'm sure.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
I'm sure someone like mclauren knowing him and understanding him
the way you carry himself, the way he conducts himself,
just in Joeneral, the type of person is. He ain't
trying to take all the goddamn bank. He's not trying
to take all the goddamn bag. You want to get
as much as you can of value, But don't let
him disrespect you with the numbers.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
I think sometimes don't show people get carried away. They
start basing their value on what somebody else got. Yeah,
maybe Washington doesn't view you like Cincinnati abuse Chase, or
like Minnesota buse JETDA and so okay, I'm just saying,
so I can't go, I can't work, I can't work
at Let's just say, for the sake of argument, I
can't work at Dollar General and then get mad say
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well they pay the people over their Walmart more.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Well, I ain't working over there. I work right here,
right right, right right.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Now, unless they're gonna make a trade and put you
in a situation. So right now, he's behind Chase, JEEDDA, CD,
and DK. Like I said, okay, that's the fifth highest paid.
So who's the next receiver, Pookah. I think Pookah's gonna
probably be due to be somewhere slotted in that he's
gonna be looking at you know, thirty two to.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Thirty three, thirty four million.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Yes, yeah, because I think when you talk about who's
the best receiver, I think for the most part, people
say either Jet, Jetta or Chase. Those are normally the
first two names that roll off everybody's lips. So Joe
and look, we're not trying to slot nobody, but I'm
just saying when you ask people, when you ask DB's
they say Jetta, they say Chase, and so forth and so,
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And that's not trying to diminish anybody else because obviously
ce D's done what he's done.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
DK's had an unbelievable season.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
We know what Tyreek is and when Tyreek healthy and
they got decent quarterback plays, so we know what Tyreek is.
But at the end of the day, give me a
good number, give me a good number. I can feel that,
I can feel, I can feel comfortable with I can
I don't feel disrespected. And because I look at the
end of the at the end of the day, O Joe,
(06:25):
I like a negotiation like this. Everybody needs to feel
like they've been had because let me tell you, what
happens a lot of time in negotiation is a build
up resentment. I would rep Oho and I and I
and this is why I how's always done business. I
would rather I would rather take a few dollars less
because when you look at Oho, you tell me, Ojo,
(06:47):
what can't you.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Do with thirty three million? That you got to have
thirty four?
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Because I guarantee you if you if you blow thirty four, you,
if you blow thirty three, you to blow him for
thirty four. I would rather you, Okay, hey, here it
is Shannon. This is what we're gonna give you. Then
you regrudgingly give me more, and then it ru and
we've seen that on YO. We've seen teams that begrudgingly
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give a player more and at the first chance they
get the upset the offset player.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
Mm hmm yep. That's how it works. And and it's
almost getten to that point. I'm not sure how negotiations
are going going right now when it comes to the
Commanders and Brother McLaurin. But I do know is when
it was time for chasing T. When it's time for
chasing T, we talk about easily top Duo and Jamar
(07:40):
Chase the best right now in the game. Obviously, that's
a conversation that could be had depending on.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Your preference and who you like. They were giving Chase
on the hard time.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Jenna was the only one that didn't have a hard
time about Yo.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
Listen, if they given Chase a hard time, what you
think they're throwing down there in DC?
Speaker 2 (07:57):
For sure?
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Man, Jennial was miny. Jennial was might of his own business.
He got a phone called, Hey, yeah, man, we just
gave you thirty five a year.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Really, how would Yeah?
Speaker 4 (08:10):
I wasn't expected it, but I mean, I think you
bet you better lock them up. There's some players when
they play it's it's like it's common sense. It's common sense.
What are we doing?
Speaker 1 (08:22):
It's like you know what oo, It's like, go ahead
and do it earlier than late, because the earlier you
do it, yuse by that second year, he looks like
a bargain. That's what the Patriots are. That's what the
Patriots so good at. Oh, they gave him a boatload
of money two years into the deal. They're like, damn,
they stole him. They stole Richard Seymore, they stole Tom Brady,
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they stole Rob Bronkowski, they stole Logan Mankins, they stole
all these guys.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Speaking of I'm glad you just said that. Talk about stealing,
talk about paying players early, having a method to your madness.
Let's talk about how he was, Jeff Lewie, what they doing?
How do you think they have all those players accumulating
not only drafting smart, but paying them ahead of time
on purpose.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Brilliant, brilliant, brilliant.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
It is because guess what, O, Joe, Now we'd bought
big coin early. It was Hey, think about it now,
you could we could have bought it when it was
fifty dollars a coin, or you trying to get it
nine when it's one hundred and twenty one thousand.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
What, Hey, I gotta I got a question.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Do you you understand Yeah, I don't. I don't understand
digital or.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
Anything, right, I see I see a lot of I
see a lot of tweets.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Guys took their money.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
We saw Odell took his money and and and some
of it in crypto, Trevor Lawrence took some of his
signing bonus. Some of the other guys are taking money,
uh in crypto. I don't, I don't, and you can't
have it. You got to write the number down. I
just saw one guy had like two hundred and seventy
million dollars and if what do they call it his
pocketbook or whatever to call it?
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Hey?
Speaker 3 (10:00):
And fuck who got his password?
Speaker 2 (10:02):
And they only give you so many tracks to get
it before it's so No, I don't know. I don't,
I don't. I don't know anything about it though. Yo.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
It's kind of like it's kind of like gambling. Like
you go to the casino and they try to get
you to play these games. I say, well, you got
some coin you're gonna let me play with because I'll
play I'll learn how to play it with your money.
But I ain't learn how to play it with mine mine. Absolutely,
I'm not learning how to invest with my money. I'm
gonna go with somebody that that understands it a lot
better than Shannon, that can help Shannon understand it. But no,
(10:32):
I don't understand digital currency. I don't understand the computer.
I can cut it on. That's that's about all I
got for. I don't even know. I don't know anything
about the computer. If they can't, if they can't, just
like like on my phone, they got Google, I can
hit ESPN, I can hit Google News. That's about all
I got. Or let me type in something I think,
like on a computer, you gotta type in like WW
(10:53):
something right, Oh.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Yeah, I know, yeah, you know you don't even have
to type in the WW you just typing with on.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
The computer dot com.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, let's shortcut. Let's shortcut.
Speaker 5 (11:07):
I learned.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
I learned that in high school.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
No, I don't know noth about the computer, So I
stay off the computer I got. I got a couple
of them in my house. I ain't been on them.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
I can't.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
I can honestly tell you, I can't interpret you the
last time. I mean, even like what get on zoom Jordan,
come over here, send that thing up for me, and
he take off and leave a lot of tag. But hey,
it was right and hung up. I called back on
my phone. I was talking to them on my phone. Joe, Oh, Joe,
(11:36):
I tried I could get a I said, don't worry A.
I said, I'm sorry, Hey, hey, well try this. I say,
y'all doing all this talking, y'all waste the time we
could be talking right now.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Yeah. So I just called back on my phone.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
But hopefully, like you said, Congratulations, Gary Wilson four years,
one hundred and thirty million dollars. He earned every dime
of it. Rookie of the Year, had a career year
last year one hundred and one catches, seven touchdowns. He's
had one thousand yards every year he's been in the NFL.
Kudos all right. OJO Execs. Coaching Scouts ranked the top
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ten quarterbacks entering twenty twenty five. No surprise at the top.
Mahone Boy number two, Josh Allen number three, Joe Burrow
number four, Lamar Jackson number five, Jaydon Daniels number six,
Matthew Stafford number seven, Justin Herbert number eight, Jerry Goff
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number nine, Jalen Hurts number ten, Baker Mayfield ojo.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
What did they ext Okay, what did the execs get right?
What did they get wrong?
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Well, obviously these are the execs.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
These are the people that sit up top, that watch
the game, that understand the game, that know the game,
sometimes better than Calvial fans.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Sometimes they don't.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
But now when it comes to two to three, two
three four, two three and four interchangeable.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
But you took the words out about bio bast get out.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
Hey two three hey, two three and four is interchangeable,
and it's based on preference.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Like number one is number one, number one, it is
gonna be who number one is for a very long time.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
What you've been able to do in his NFL career
in such a short amount of time going down is
one of the greatest, and he's still got damn planned.
But two three and four is interchangeable for me. You know,
I'm putting Burrow, I'm putting Burrow second. I'm putting Burrow
second for me personally, after Burrow, I'm going Lamar. As
much as I love Josh Allen, love Josh Allen to death,
(13:33):
I love him, I love him to death, but obviously
after after after Josh, I mean you can go jadon
days you go see they see I'm surprised, see they Shrouds.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Took this list after his rookie year. I'm not so
sure he's not in the top ten.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
And then and and and one of the things I
do have in probaly is how do we have the
super Bowl winning quarterback and not in the top five?
How do we not have the super Bowl winning quarterback?
Not in the time to ask you a question, what
do you get looking at?
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Okay, if we take if we put Jalen Hurst in
the top five, who you taking out the top five?
Speaker 2 (14:12):
You already said Mahomes and would.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
I wouldn't have I wouldn't have to take him out.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
He wouldn't nobody. Okay, So that means you kicked Jane
Daniels out.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, simply because Hurst is coming off a
super Bowl winning season. I mean, That's how I would
have put it. So when it comes to the execs
and making that decision, I'm not sure what they're basically
that off of. Because James Dails had a hell of
a year last year going to the NC Championship. Well,
hell Cy Stroud made the playoffs his rookie year and
turn that damn program program, turn that damn franchise around
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his first year.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
People really love Justin Herbert. I don't see I mean
coming into the season. Okay, I get it, he got
it all.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
He got it a talent.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
It is undeniable, yes, yes.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
But how'd Jalen Hurts take a step back when he
has the He he still has the best offensive line
in football, He has the best running back in football.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
He has a receivering.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Cords his he might have a top what he might have.
He does have a top three receiving duo. So how
is he not like ranked? I'm not so sure that
I have. I wouldn't put put Joe.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
I get it.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
If you just looking at somebody saying, okay, we're gonna
just go have y'all out there, throw the ball.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Oh oh, he gonna wow you. He can throw the
ball probably six yard to die. He can throw. He
can throw from one hash all the way up to
the other. He can throw. He can make all the throws.
We're not denying that, right, but are we sure? Are
we sure? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (15:41):
And he's like that he I I'm just I'm just
saying he's he's like that based on watching him. He was,
hey when when Mike Williams and Keenan Allen were there.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Yeah, Herbert was a quarterback.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Right, Oh yeah, we're not Ojo. We're not gonna deny
that he can't spend the ball because he can.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Hey, he can. He can flat out he can flat
out throw it.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
And Miami's situation might be a lot different had they
had him at quarterback and he's throwing the wattle in
Tyreek and John new Smith and some of the other
guys that he that had the opportunity.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
But here we are.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
The thing that what Josh does is that Josh has
he throws like thirty touchdowns and he might rush for
ten fifteen touchdowns. That's what That's what you're like, bro,
how do we defend this guy because if it's thirty one,
he normally gonna get it. Except that that what that
goof died when they went for it, and they say
they changed the rule. You notice, Buffalo, y'all ain't got
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a lot of rule change. Y'all got the overtime rule
changed because my homeboy got the ball and y'all didn't
get it. And so they say now we want everybody
to touch the ball in overtime.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Oh at least everybody get it option now you.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Got now, they got instruments that's gonna measure the down
whenever having the yard marker for one hundred years since
they had football, they had the yard marker now.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
But this is a good thing when you bring technology,
technology into the game. Technology is gonna get it right
every time because human error isn't.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
Yes, human error is inevitable when it comes to technology,
they're not going to get it wrong.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
A lot of people that love the game of soccer,
they don't.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
You don't get it wrong.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
How many times we don't see the man that man
fumbled the ball and they said he didn't fumble, or
that wasn't no funner, they said he did fumble, or
that was an incomplete pass, and it wasn't And it
wasn't an incomplete past because they still got a call.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
They still got a call. The New Jersey.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, most definitely.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
Hey, speaking of quarterbacks, now that we're on that, on
that situation, a chat and I'm sure the chat would
probably agree with me as well. One player where we're
gonna have to have to have a conversation about him
because he was a number one pick.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
He has all the tools and now he had the
talent right on him to where.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
He should look and be in the same conversation with
the upper Echelona quarterbacks, especially the top ten that was
just named.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
And that's my young bull down there in Jacksonville. There
are no more excuses.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
No hell noah, there are no more excuses.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
You got Travis h N. You got Travis Hunter, Now
you got Brian Toman Jr. I'm not sure who they
have in the slot, but this is the year.
Speaker 5 (18:26):
You get.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
You got to live up to your potential. Come on now,
come on, Sunshine.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Yeah, yeah, it's not never Owe Joe. And I think
they got a running back.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
I don't know the running back's name that that's kind
of replaced an he kind of had Atn on the
back burner.
Speaker 5 (18:45):
Oh hey man, god damn man.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
I mean tank, big tank Bibi.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Yeah, a buddy with total Yes, yes, he was that thing.
He was total that.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
So it's gonna be interested. You're right on your question
is can they protect?
Speaker 1 (19:15):
How good is the defense gonna because look that division
and that division got Tennessee. Tennessee is going with a
roof all right, C J. Stroud, Uh, we love what
they do. What they do in Houston, Indy is kind
of unknown. They went with it seems like they're gonna
be they leaning towards Daniel Jones. That's what it looks
like to be with you. Now, you can whatever. I
don't think. You bring a guy, give a got fourteen
(19:37):
million for him to be a backup.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
Listen, that's you know what that's I can't say what
I want to say because those conversations that I had
were in just for me not to be repeated on here.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
But what you just said is is what it's looking like.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
I mean, I'm gonna say, I'm I'm just gonna tell
you like that, how they gonna put Yeah, it's it's unfortunate,
it's unfortunate. And this is coming from in there, reliable Sauce.
I'm not Adam Sheffond, but I'm I'm I'm let me
take my glass sauce, so you know I'm bullshit.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Reliable Sauce. Come on, oh Joe, how they're gonna pay,
How they're gonna pay.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
How they're gonna come in and pay somebody that works
up under you more than they pay you if they're
not bringing that person in there to take your.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Job, you know what they do? Absolutely absolutely, But again,
is he the answer?
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Is he ask?
Speaker 4 (20:41):
Because he wasn't answer in New York? But you think
something changes because you.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Kevin the question you're asking and then I tell you
if he to answer or not, who you're talking about
to ask question?
Speaker 3 (20:50):
I know, listen, I know one thing.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
They got goddamned Jonathan Taylor back there, Alec Pearce, Michael
Pittman Jr.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
And god damn it's one mode.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
That nice little squad over there.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
Yeah, they got a nice little squad. Now, they got
a nice little squad. And the the defense ain't too shabby. Yeah,
the defense ain't too shabby.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Hey, Zion Franklin, but he might be one of the
best in the NFL. I'm not saying he's not.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Fred Warner got hunt. They got a nice little D line.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
Yeah, Hey, who's who's the d N for the d
N that's real good in in in in indeed, it's a.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
D and he makes he make a whole lot of noise. Pity, No,
I think he was.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Came from San Francisco. Okay, okay, okay, okay, they got
Alex Peers. They got Josh down. Yeah, they got Michael
Pittman Jr.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
Okay, Alex Pearce is the one that went number ten.
Huh that hey, Alex Pearce, Boy, you could go, boy
you hit me? Yeah, he'd be cooking for you could boy,
you can go cooking every time. Every listen, every time
I turn around.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
He did, he behind somebody's somebody.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
He'd be cutting.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Oh Joe.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
After Herbert came in at number seven, Jeremy Filer spoke
to an AFC executive who praised his study play but
made an interesting observation about how he's perceived around the league.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
He's always been a top five, top AQB accurate.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
To all levels athletics sound decision maker the exact said,
it's almost like he's underrated now in my opinion, he's
taken for granted.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Huh.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
All I know is that man had a twenty seven
point lead and they lost that underrated quarterback that we're
talking about.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
Yeah, yeah, and you know what games like that, if
you got a twenty seven point lead, you know what's
the number one thing you need to have with a
twenty seven point lead?
Speaker 5 (22:56):
Be in a game?
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Manager?
Speaker 4 (22:59):
That the one word that quarterbacks don't want to be
called that they that they think it's so bad.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
You manage the.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
Game, you be a game manager's I'm not saying it's simple,
it's easier said than done.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
But your decision making, the way you process information. What
a twenty seven point lead, it becomes different. You don't
put the ball in harm's way.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
You don't want three and outs, you want to you
want long drives, kill the goddamn clock.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
The greatest game manager or and the greatest quarterback and
the greatest quarterback, they're the same player Tom Brady. Look
at Tom Brady and that in that that Super Bowl
against the Rams, he realized that it was gonna be
a man look here, ten ten thirteen points might.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Win this game. Right right then?
Speaker 1 (23:45):
He said, if you go, you go look at Caroline,
they say, man, we'll shoot out. We got a we
got to score. How many times you see Tom Brady
blow up twenty one point lead, a fourteen point lead
because he understood. The one thing that I mind more
to them, and there's a lot of things that you
can mile about Tom Brady, is that he understood in
the first driver to what type of game it was
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gonna be and what type of game he was gonna
need to play. Bro, I'm gonna need to throw for
three to fifty four hundred in this game, nah, one,
and no turner was gonna win it for us. Sometimes
you get so caught up in who we are. I'm great,
I'm great. Let me show everybody I'm great in all
situations when that's not needed. Tom understood that even as
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even like in the beginning he was purely a game manager.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
They played to their defense.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
But even after he became Tom Brady, Tom Brady, that
TV twelve, the historically and transcendent figure that he want
that he is, he still understood his role.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Man, I can't turn the ball over.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
Yeah, simple, And a lot of.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Quarterbacks don't understand that because they get to a certain
level they feel, excuse me, I gotta play at this level.
Speaker 4 (24:55):
Nah.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Sometimes it doesn't require you to throw three hundred.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Sometimes touchdowns and no turnovers, or you could throw for
three fifty, but you have three picks and lose the game.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
The choice is yours. Yeah, and Tom has done a
great job of that. There have been.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Few and far between games and with you like well, Tom, hey, yeah, Tom,
you know the turnover there that hurt us. He under
he understood, and sometimes don't Joe, you have to he
fell behind and you have to like throw throw throw.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Well, hell if I know there ain't no threat of
no running game.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Hey, but it was hard because he knew, he knew
where he was weak, he knew where you were weak.
He stayed to his strength and played to your weakness.
Speaker 5 (25:45):
Mm hm.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
I don't think me personally, I don't think Justin Herbert
is underrated. I think he's rated about where he's supposed
to be. I think he's a very good quarterback. I
think he has some great out of around him. But
I don't know underrated. Where where you? I mean where
you who you're putting them in front of?
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Yeah? Five to eight okay you.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
And I know people say, well you gave if you
gave him that uh situation what Jayalen Hurts had.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Oh okay, you got to be with the situation that
you got.
Speaker 5 (26:28):
Yeah, yeah, that's it.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
You can't all the comparison and hypotheticals. It makes no sense.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
Are I think you put anything and you put on
you put any of the top quarterbacks and Jayen hurt situation,
I think they would yeah, they went the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Yeah, I mean, look at the offensive line he got.
If you said, okay, get the ten top offensivelignement, he
probably got four of them, four of them. Four are
definitely going to be the top. You can make a
case that Lane Johnson is the best. Now when when when, uh.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
Wait, make a case whoa Lane Johnson is the best?
Speaker 1 (27:07):
I'm saying when you say, I'm just cumine tackle. Now
when big Trent, big Trent healthy, big Trent hell.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
That he's the best left, he's the best left tackling. Again,
we can't we can't forget that. Dion Dawkins, Deon Daalkins.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Right, but you look at Jordan my Alatta, you look
at Land and Dixon, you look at the center, I
think it's Jurgens. They lose an all Pro, a Pro
Bowl center guy that's going to the Hall of Fame,
and they get another woe. Come in there and do
take right off right, and then we talk about lane.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Lane is what is Lane is Lane? He got the
right name, Bill mom dame.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
When they name it, they named the right thing because
you run to that side, it's a damn lane, best
believe it.
Speaker 5 (27:46):
So he.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Got he got the right name, but me personally evaluating
looking at all these quarterbacks and see what their rank.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
I don't think. I don't.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
I don't think Justin Herbert is. I'm not taking Justin
Herbert over any of this, just in front of it,
I'm not. I'm not taking them on Matthew Stafford. I'm
not taking them with Jayalen Hurts, I'm not.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
Yeah, yeah, I listen. I don't understand.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
I don't understand what the execs did or what they
were looking at, or how they made the assessment where
they had Jayden Daions at fifth and the Super Bowl
winning quarterback at eighth or seventh.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Year or nine might have been.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
I don't have it happening. And at ninth at that
I don't. I don't understand that. Are they Are they
using the talent around him against it? Yes, and saying
they're putting James Dallions at five because he did more
with yes, not more.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
Obviously he didn't. He didn't win that that that Pacific game,
but still.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
But even Super Bow they lost and played extremely well.
He had those two calls for their turnovers, but if
you look at it, he played extremely well, and you
know you can't turn them all over the situation like that,
and he had the one turnover, but they overcame it
and they forced Mahomes and that team and the more
turnovers and they won the game going away. The game
wasn't even close. It wasn't even interested after the first
couple of drives. Mm hmm. Yeah, But I don't me personally,
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I don't think Justin Herbert. It'll be interested to see
what the chat thinks, but I don't think Justin Herbert
is under is underrated. Speaking of Hurts, Nick Sirianni went
off on critics who say Jalen Hurst was carried to
the Super Bowl by his team. Yeah, that's bs. Any
time I hear that, it's cool. It's like it's a
nice debate thing that people like to have.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
And I get it.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
There are a lot of hours on TV show and
radio station that have to feel and to be able
to debate. I understand that. But we're talking about the
ultimate team game. There it is, and he does whatever
he needs to do in order to win each and
every game. Oh, Joe, is the criticism of Jaalen Hurts
is it warranted?
Speaker 3 (29:40):
You know what?
Speaker 4 (29:41):
I don't think because the game is not pretty, He's
not throwing for three four hundred yards every game.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
You know they don't drop back and throw the ball
a hundred million times. You know they don't have to.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
I like the quarterback that Jalen Hurts plays. I like
the way he plays the game. The game of football
is not complicated, hunk. It's really simple. I'm gonna take
what you give me. I'm not gonna make any mistakes.
I have Saquon Barkley, I'm gonna hand it off to him.
He gonna make things happen. And when it's time to
play the ball, when it's time to throw the ball,
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and we had plays for AJ Brown, we have played
for Devonte Smith.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Some games A J.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
Brown gonna be mad, why because they w or Devonte
Smith is going off.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
Then you would have some games with hell AJ Brown
gonna go crazy and Devonte Smith is not gonna get
the ball. That's the way the game is played. It's simple.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
At times, we tend to complicate it because it doesn't
look pretty and.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
It's not esthetically pleasing. The way Josh Allen does or
the way Joe Burrow throw for four hundred yards, that's
not the game. That's not the game that they play.
Over there in Philly, which is probably why they're gonna
be back.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
Again in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Looks if I like, y'all make a case for you.
They held it against Terry Bradshaw. Nobody's ever said Terry
Bradshaw with the best because why he had the best
offensive line, he had a Hall of Fame center, he
had two Hall of Fame receivers, he had a Hall
of Fame running back, and he had five six Hall
of famers on the defense side of football. So he
never and he called it on play, so he never
got the credit. They didn't hold it against Joe. Joe
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just happened. I can make a case when people talk
about the best players to ever played, there three names
that always come up, Tom Brady, Jerry Rice, and Lawrence Taylor. Yes, Sir,
sprinkle Jim Brown in there. They never held that. They
never held that against Joe. Now, I think a lot
of that had to do because Joe won two Super
Bowls before Jerry ever set foot in San Francisco. They said,
(31:33):
but so with Joe, with Joe before he got there, right,
But they yeah, I get it. He had Offensive Player
of the Year in sa Quan the best running back
in football. Okay, he got the best offensive lineman football.
He has two quality. He has two very good receivers.
Aj Brown is a three time Pro Bowler, Davonte Smith
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and is a probably the best number two receiver.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
That's what you know, one A, one B, whatever you
want to call it.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
But yeah, yeah, Peyton. They didn't hold that against Peyton.
Hall of Fame, Marvin Harrison, Hall of Fame, Marshall fault,
Reggie Wayne is gonna go to the Hall of Fame. Uh,
you gonna go to the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 5 (32:18):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Dallas Clark was a Pro Bowl tight end. Didn't hold
that against Peyton.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Brandon Stokely quality as well.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
A lot of times the people where people gave the
nod to Peyton, I mean to Tom Is because Tom
didn't have any of that until he got Randy. You
look at Wes Welcome, undrafted free agent Julian Edelman was
a seventh round quarterback out of Kent State. Uh, you
look at Damon at dan Avin Dola. I think he
was an undrafted player. Yeah, yeah, yeah, all those all
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those guys.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Uh, what the what was the number eighty?
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Troy Brown, So it was like he didn't have these
big name receivers that you're like, oh, I got to
have him. I would take him. You're choosing up squads
and be like, oh, okay, I take him. Look I
can't punish the man. They did a great job of
Look that had a quarterback in the second round. How
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we had the forethought the foresight to see, Yeah, we
gave this guy a lot of money. And you heard
a lot of things coming out of that, coming out
of of Philly, and you heard some of the stuff
that's coming out, and I don't know what to believe,
but allegedly, you know, you know, Carson Wentz was not
the easy to deal with, and you you know, you
couldn't tell him anything.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
And Jalen snuck right on in there. So you say,
you know what, we got this. I like this guy.
Let's build around him.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Now that offensive line was already intact, Lane was already there,
that had Jason Kelsey already there, Dixon, because Dixon got
there the same time. Dixon was the first round pick
and Jalen Hurst was the second round pick. They just
filled in the spots. They got Davonte and next thing
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you know, they try to make a trade for aj Brown.
I don't know what the hell Tennessee was thinking to
get rid of AJ Brown. And it's like, well we
got to our younger AJ Brown and trailing Burts.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
What Yeah, listen?
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Some some say listen he I don't know who idea
that was.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
In fifteen regular season games last season, Hurt through for
twenty nine hundred and three yards, eighteen touchdowns, five interception.
His passing touchdowns ranked twenty. His passing yards ranked twenty six.
Oh Joe, that's what. They're not a throwing team.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
They're running test I said, SA Notice that said simple football.
They don't complicate anything. We're gonna take what you give
us so I need.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
So what we're gonna do is that we're gonna prove
to you that I quarterback and throw the football. So
we're gonna mess up this dynamic that we got just
to prove something in to you.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
No, damn y'all.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
Object. The object is. The object is a game win,
and that's exactly what they do.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
We gotta run it fifty times, We're gonna run it
fifty times. If we gotta throw it fifty times, we'll
throw it fifty times. We're gonna do whatever it takes
for us to win.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
The game. That's the objective. Hello, you play to win
the game.
Speaker 5 (35:21):
Win the game.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
No, is he gonna be with those with those numbers
in that system. Is not predicated for him to be
an MVP.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
It's not right.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
He's not gonna throw four enough touchdowns. He's not gonna
have enough passing yards. Not when guys are tipping five
thousand every year, guys are in the mid for in
the high thirties or the mid forties. As far as
passing touchdowns, it's not conducive. What it is conducive for
is him to be playing a lot on the last,
the last Sunday or the second Sunday in February.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
It is conducive for that. And so you have the wait,
what are you looking for? What are you trying to
accomplish here?
Speaker 3 (36:07):
Hey, they win him, They win him ugly. They win
him ugly.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
Like I say all the time, the way they do
win is not aesthetically pleasing to others, which is why
they don't why they rank him how they rank him.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
Yeah, I mean if you got into a passing contest
because he throw the ball like some of the guys.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
No, that's not what he does. Not what he does
he win.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
Yeah, what we got here, Nina is Juwan Jennings wants
a new deal or a trade. He scheduled to make
seven point five million in his final year of his deal.
It marks the seventh grade summer.
Speaker 4 (36:44):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
You gotta understand, o Hoe, he was the third receiver.
Remember they had Debo there, they had Brandon Ayyuke. They
gave Deebo to deal first. They got Brandon Iyuk last year.
So you're the third receiver. You know, hey, not give
him get that many targets. Hey, that pretty good seven
half million for a third receiver. But he said, nah,
I ain't receive.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
In the third receiving no mode.
Speaker 5 (37:06):
Huh.
Speaker 4 (37:07):
How about how about we pay him for all those
times Christian McCaffrey all them times Christian McCaffrey made some
of those long runs.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
You know who's sprong?
Speaker 5 (37:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (37:16):
Oh you want Jenny block. He won the best blocking.
Come on now, chiefs in football, Yeah, come.
Speaker 4 (37:20):
On now, let's let's let's reward young bull for all,
for for the dirty work that people don't get to see.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
I agree.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
It marks the second straight summer the forty nine ers
are in a situation where receiver wants it to be
paid or traded. Last year it was Brandon and Jennings
has approached the forty nine ers about the request, but
little progress has been made. If a new deal is
not reached by the time training camp starts next week,
Jennings plans to request the trade to a team willing
to pay him.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
And this time you out you ain't no team willing
to trade. Ain't no team willing to pay nothing?
Speaker 3 (37:52):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you got to be careful too. You
gotta be careful doing that.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
You be yourself on the street, get the minimum contract, hey.
Speaker 4 (37:59):
And the then listen, And that's no disrespect to him,
but you got to be to be able to pull
that off. You know them type of Shenigan Shenanigans.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
You got to be that.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
You got to be that.
Speaker 4 (38:09):
For now, I'm not saying he's very very good at
what he does, very very good at what he does
in that system, but you have to understand, look at
the landscape of the NFL, look at the other teams
and see where you would fit in. We'll still be
able to contribute the way that you did here in
San France, because everybody else is already set. If you
think about it, everybody has their one, two, and three's already.
(38:30):
You know, we just had a draft, so you have
to you got to be careful and saying you.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
Know what, Okay, you know what. I don't want to
be here no more. I don't want to be in
no more. Okay, but where we're going?
Speaker 2 (38:39):
But see that? Hey, you see what to do?
Speaker 1 (38:40):
Oh if I work at a fast food restaurant, I
wait to the business time, the business time between what
eleven and one? Hey, y'all give me a raise. I'm
up out here. I don't know who gonna cook the fries.
Hey what how much y'all make it?
Speaker 2 (38:53):
Thirteen? I need sixteen to dour right, I'm sorry, I
can't do that, okay, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
One thing about it on that run, On that run,
they had that that that.
Speaker 4 (39:05):
I'm gonna just call it historic season because it was
to me. When they played the Chiefs, Jama and Jenny
was phenomenal. When Brandon I you who went out, when
Debo was hurt?
Speaker 3 (39:15):
You know who was making those plays?
Speaker 2 (39:17):
That was last That was last year.
Speaker 3 (39:19):
I mean last year.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
I'm tripping.
Speaker 5 (39:20):
I'm not bad.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
I'm sorry, I'm sorry. You know who was making plays.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
Jawan had a career year so he showed show.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
Not only Kenny Block, Oh yeah, not only could he
catch Yeah, for.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
Sure, I like it, But I just don't know, Oh, Joe,
with the money they just paid party, The money they
got tied up in McCaffrey, the money they got tried
up and Kittle, the money they got tied up in Bosa,
the money they got tied up in Fred Warner, the
money they got tied up and Big and Williams, Big Trent.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
Yeah, oh.
Speaker 4 (39:56):
Oh no, you could do you could do something because
you ain't paying me, no ship, you ain't paying no,
I mean not the peanuts. No disrespect to those that
are watching the chat. I'm speaking in football NFL terms.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
Peanuts.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
Come on now, hey, so can you can you give
us one more year? Like that?
Speaker 3 (40:13):
And they're gonna they gonna play with you again, Jo,
They're gonna play with you again.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
Nah, they won't. They won't play with them, Joe. They
just know that.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
Okay, you know we're gonna be able to pay him
and uh because plus the thing is they got Pier Pierce,
all right, and that the guy they got that they got.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
From Florida and he came back. Yeah, he played well
down the stretch on Joe so I can see it.
I'm training camp under this belt. Yeah, I like it.
I like it.
Speaker 3 (40:41):
I like Jna be all right.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
The Steelers are favoriting only six of their seventeen games
this upcoming season. Week one minus three at the Jets,
Week two, Seattle Seahawks at home minus one and a half.
Week six, the Browns minus six and a half, Week nine,
the Coats minus three and a half. Week fifteen, the
Dolphins minus two and a half. Week seventeen at the
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Browns minus two and a half. Should Vegas be giving
Aaron Rodgers more respect?
Speaker 3 (41:15):
I mean, Vegas is gonna base everything off the Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 5 (41:18):
We saw last year.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
Vegas going to base everything off the Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 4 (41:23):
Now yeah, And what I do know what we're gonna
get is we're gonna have games where Aaron Rodgers looks
like Aaron Rodgers of old.
Speaker 3 (41:30):
Then we're gonna have games He'll be like, man, what.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
The hell was that?
Speaker 3 (41:34):
That's just the nature of the business.
Speaker 4 (41:36):
As you get older as a quarterback, we're gonna have
flashes of brilliants. We're gonna have flashes of That's why
he's a four time AVP but then you're gonna have
some games where gonna.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
Be like, man, what the hell was that?
Speaker 3 (41:50):
And he's not He's not in a position anymore.
Speaker 4 (41:53):
With this type of quarterback that can elevate the players
around him, hes gonna need the players around him to
elevate him and make him job all of them.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
And I'm old enough to remember them. Because the player,
the quarterback used to get elevate the players. They say,
rising tide, you know, raises all ships. And that's what
the really great quarterbacks can do. They can elevate everybody
around them. But as they started to get older, they
needed players around them to lift them up. Right, So
because guess what now, I need a lot of boat.
(42:24):
So in other words, you go back here, go back
and study history. Look at the guys. Look at Peyton
and look at Tom, and look at all those guys
as they started to get older, guys that have won
multiple MVPs, guys that have won multiple Super Bowls.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
Look what it took.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
Look at Tom and Tampa. Look at the defense he had.
Look at Chris Godwin, look at Mike Evans, look at
what they had. Let's be real, look at Peyton. He
got to Denver, Look with the hair. They had Decker,
they had Julius Thomas, they had the Marius Thomas rested soul,
they had a win. That's Welker. They had Stokely there
(43:02):
for a minute. Yeah, no Seaman Reno in the backfield.
So as as as the quarterbacks, quarterbacks got older, you know.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
Joe Joe a.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
It takes it just takes more the guys that you
just can't do it. It doesn't have you know, it
is what it is. And and and I think the
thing is is that when you see that, you understand it.
And uh they're looking at it like, yeah, he he
don't have that Eagles offense around him. He doesn't have
a Saquon. He doesn't have you know, you know, I
(43:39):
like DK and I think, uh uh, what's the other
Austin Calvin Austin the third. They got some quality receivers.
I like Fried you offensive line mostly if that I
need the offensive line. But your best defensive player is
unhappy with his contract.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
T J. Watt.
Speaker 4 (43:58):
Yeah, yeah, Hey, you know they got Jayleen Ramsey over there,
Joey Porter Jr.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
Darius Slake and and there are they going for it?
Speaker 3 (44:14):
Hey? Hey where that defense gonna be nice black. Oh shoot,
that's a good question. No no, no, no, no no,
I think you're gonna.
Speaker 2 (44:27):
Have damn what do they put him in safety?
Speaker 4 (44:32):
So now now you got me thinking, you got Joey Porter.
He's staying on one side.
Speaker 3 (44:39):
So with.
Speaker 1 (44:41):
I think I think I think Jalen Ramsey can can
transition because I think he can transition to safety better
than those other two guys can. And then when they
go and then when they go three wives, he can. Hey,
he can jump down and Garrison can go to the nickel.
Speaker 3 (44:59):
Okay, okay, I like that.
Speaker 5 (45:00):
I like that either way go.
Speaker 4 (45:02):
When the Steelers play the Bengals, we know what's gonna happen.
They still gonna get this work.
Speaker 3 (45:06):
So they're still gonna get this work.
Speaker 4 (45:07):
Yeah, absolutely, And this I love. I love Slay, I
love Joey Porter Junior too. I love Jayalen Ramsey. But
when you play the Bengals, and it's to all my
Steeler fans that are watching as much as I loved
y'all because I show loved you and you show love
to me.
Speaker 2 (45:21):
But we were gonna get We're gonna You're doing a
lot of talking. You're doing the kind of talking last
year too.
Speaker 3 (45:27):
We beat we beat the stealer.
Speaker 4 (45:28):
Y' yeah, okay, I'm just letting you know we're gonna
beat them again, and we're gonna start the season five.
Speaker 3 (45:35):
And oh.
Speaker 2 (45:37):
Have y'all ever started the season five? And oh?
Speaker 4 (45:41):
When I was playing, Yeah yeah, two thousand and five,
we started oh my bad four and oh.
Speaker 2 (45:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (45:48):
But this year, this is the year we started now
five and oh, so we don't.
Speaker 4 (45:52):
Have to rely on no teams at the end of
the season, sitting there by the goddamn jumbo trying somebody
else in the game.
Speaker 3 (45:59):
Prayer that won't be us this year.
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joining us tonight. I'm unk. He's Ojo were out
That week out, Garrett Wilson signs a four year extension
worth one hundred and thirty million dollars, which makes him
one of the highest paid wide receivers in the NFL.
The number ten overall pick in the twenty twenty two
NFL Draft, Wilson is entering its fourth season in the NFL.
He's had at least one thousand yards every year and
posted a career high one hundred and one catches and
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seven touchdowns last year.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
I like the deal. I like the deal.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Oh Jo, they get one of the better players, they
get him locked up, they drafted him.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
He's homegrown. You know what he is.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
You, hey, you watch this guy for the last three years,
come in and out of your building. You watch him work,
show up every Sunday and Thursday or whenever the guys play,
So you know what you have.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
There is no speculation.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Well, I wonder what we're gonna get when we get
Garrett Wilson in our building. Well, you've had it in
your building for the better part of three years, so
you know exactly who in what this young man is.
I like this deal. I like ain't no haggling. Well,
I want to be the highest paid look, bro, make
me an offer. Oh yeah, when I came, I could work.
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I could work with this.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Yeah one I can refuse.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
Yeah, absolutely work with That's because the funny thing, he
gonna hit him cross the head again. He gonna he
gonna hit him cross the head again. And we know
what Garret Wilson can be with consistent quarterback plays.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Could we saw him do it?
Speaker 4 (01:20):
As with him, I understand how specially is I understand
what he can do.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
And I'm glad he had justin fields.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
I just need for the college college quarterback.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
They have chemistry, they know each other.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Yes, I just need him to put I need them
to continue to put Garret Wilson in position to continue
to make plays and make justin field job easier. But
it's it's gonna be easy because you got that young
You got that young bell cow in the backfield that
can hit his head off the gold post from anywhere
on the field. So I think things are gonna be
a little easy for him. I'm glad he got his money.
But what it does do not to go off topic,
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but it raises the price tag for my young bull
downing there over there with the commandos. Oh, terrymcclory, who
they need to go hit it, Come on now, Scary
Terry deserve to get paid now. He's done everything. He's
been a model citizen. He wears that seat on his
chest for a reason. There's no need every time. Every
time unk, unless you're a quarterback, you gotta fight tooth
and nail for your money every time, no matter how
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you carry yourself. You do everything the right way, you're
a perfect teammate, you say all the right things. But
when it comes time for that money, it's time to
pay your players. They do it any and everybody, no
matter how you conduct yourself.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
And my thing is, like I said, Ojo, where you
know our privy to the conversation behind the scene, what
is he asking? Is he asking for Chase and Jefferson's
money or does he want, you know, be one of
the hides paid somewhere in that twenty eight to thirty
two thirty three million dollar range.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
He've he belongs in the conversation.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
I'm not saying justin Jefferson or Jamar Chase money, but
we ain't dropping too far below that.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Okay, we look at that Garrett Wilson, basically thirty what
thirty What is that thirty two, thirty three, thirty or
forty thirty one and three and then you got one ten,
So you got about thirty two million a year.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
So that's what I said, So I put it. I
put it in that bracket on Joe.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
I think I like that bracket a little bit more
than that because you look at the body of work.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Just look at the body.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
At work in what McLaurin has done. I think he
deserves a little bit more than that. Now, this is
no disrespective what Garrett Wilson has done in this three years.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
But McLaurin and.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
What he's meant for that team, what he's meant for
that city, what he's meant for that organization, what he's
meant for that team as a captain in doing all
the right things even when things were bad.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
So you're looking at it, about thirty five a year.
What did DK get? DK got something around that that
seems to be a less you're chased unless you're Jefferson. Yeah,
that seems to be. He's the fifth highest paid by
annual value, so that seems to be a CD. CD
is a tick below I think a Jedda got thirty
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five a year, CD slotted up under that he got
thirty four year, Chase polled, vaulted, He did a mondodplantis
he polled, vaulted over everybody and broke the world record
with over forty basically over forty million a year. So
now I guess everybody else that comes along, you're gonna
be slotted somewhere between thirty and thirty three?
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Are you? Okay? But Best felt.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
He got to be. He got to be. I'm sure.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
I'm sure someone like mclauren knowing him and understanding him
the way you carry himself, the way he conducts himself,
just in Joeneral, the type of person is. He ain't
trying to take all the goddamn bank. He's not trying
to take all the goddamn bag. You want to get
as much as you can of value, But don't let
him disrespect you with the numbers.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
I think sometimes don't show people get carried away. They
start basing their value on what somebody else got. Yeah,
maybe Washington doesn't view you like Cincinnati abuse Chase, or
like Minnesota buse JETDA and so okay, I'm just saying,
so I can't go, I can't work, I can't work
at Let's just say, for the sake of argument, I
can't work at Dollar General and then get mad say
(05:07):
well they pay the people over their Walmart more.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Well, I ain't working over there. I work right here,
right right, right right.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Now, unless they're gonna make a trade and put you
in a situation. So right now, he's behind Chase, JEEDDA, CD,
and DK. Like I said, okay, that's the fifth highest paid.
So who's the next receiver, Pookah. I think Pookah's gonna
probably be due to be somewhere slotted in that he's
gonna be looking at you know, thirty two to.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Thirty three, thirty four million.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Yes, yeah, because I think when you talk about who's
the best receiver, I think for the most part, people
say either Jet, Jetta or Chase. Those are normally the
first two names that roll off everybody's lips. So Joe
and look, we're not trying to slot nobody, but I'm
just saying when you ask people, when you ask DB's
they say Jetta, they say Chase, and so forth and so,
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And that's not trying to diminish anybody else because obviously
ce D's done what he's done.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
DK's had an unbelievable season.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
We know what Tyreek is and when Tyreek healthy and
they got decent quarterback plays, so we know what Tyreek is.
But at the end of the day, give me a
good number, give me a good number. I can feel that,
I can feel, I can feel comfortable with I can
I don't feel disrespected. And because I look at the
end of the at the end of the day, O Joe,
(06:25):
I like a negotiation like this. Everybody needs to feel
like they've been had because let me tell you, what
happens a lot of time in negotiation is a build
up resentment. I would rep Oho and I and I
and this is why I how's always done business. I
would rather I would rather take a few dollars less
because when you look at Oho, you tell me, Ojo,
(06:47):
what can't you.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Do with thirty three million? That you got to have
thirty four?
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Because I guarantee you if you if you blow thirty four, you,
if you blow thirty three, you to blow him for
thirty four. I would rather you, Okay, hey, here it
is Shannon. This is what we're gonna give you. Then
you regrudgingly give me more, and then it ru and
we've seen that on YO. We've seen teams that begrudgingly
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give a player more and at the first chance they
get the upset the offset player.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
Mm hmm yep. That's how it works. And and it's
almost getten to that point. I'm not sure how negotiations
are going going right now when it comes to the
Commanders and Brother McLaurin. But I do know is when
it was time for chasing T. When it's time for
chasing T, we talk about easily top Duo and Jamar
(07:40):
Chase the best right now in the game. Obviously, that's
a conversation that could be had depending on.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Your preference and who you like. They were giving Chase
on the hard time.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Jenna was the only one that didn't have a hard
time about Yo.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
Listen, if they given Chase a hard time, what you
think they're throwing down there in DC?
Speaker 2 (07:57):
For sure?
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Man, Jennial was miny. Jennial was might of his own business.
He got a phone called, Hey, yeah, man, we just
gave you thirty five a year.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Really, how would Yeah?
Speaker 4 (08:10):
I wasn't expected it, but I mean, I think you
bet you better lock them up. There's some players when
they play it's it's like it's common sense. It's common sense.
What are we doing?
Speaker 1 (08:22):
It's like you know what oo, It's like, go ahead
and do it earlier than late, because the earlier you
do it, yuse by that second year, he looks like
a bargain. That's what the Patriots are. That's what the
Patriots so good at. Oh, they gave him a boatload
of money two years into the deal. They're like, damn,
they stole him. They stole Richard Seymore, they stole Tom Brady,
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they stole Rob Bronkowski, they stole Logan Mankins, they stole
all these guys.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Speaking of I'm glad you just said that. Talk about stealing,
talk about paying players early, having a method to your madness.
Let's talk about how he was, Jeff Lewie, what they doing?
How do you think they have all those players accumulating
not only drafting smart, but paying them ahead of time
on purpose.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Brilliant, brilliant, brilliant.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
It is because guess what, O, Joe, Now we'd bought
big coin early. It was Hey, think about it now,
you could we could have bought it when it was
fifty dollars a coin, or you trying to get it
nine when it's one hundred and twenty one thousand.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
What, Hey, I gotta I got a question.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Do you you understand Yeah, I don't. I don't understand
digital or.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
Anything, right, I see I see a lot of I
see a lot of tweets.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Guys took their money.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
We saw Odell took his money and and and some
of it in crypto, Trevor Lawrence took some of his
signing bonus. Some of the other guys are taking money,
uh in crypto. I don't, I don't, and you can't
have it. You got to write the number down. I
just saw one guy had like two hundred and seventy
million dollars and if what do they call it his
pocketbook or whatever to call it?
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Hey?
Speaker 3 (10:00):
And fuck who got his password?
Speaker 2 (10:02):
And they only give you so many tracks to get
it before it's so No, I don't know. I don't,
I don't. I don't know anything about it though. Yo.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
It's kind of like it's kind of like gambling. Like
you go to the casino and they try to get
you to play these games. I say, well, you got
some coin you're gonna let me play with because I'll
play I'll learn how to play it with your money.
But I ain't learn how to play it with mine mine. Absolutely,
I'm not learning how to invest with my money. I'm
gonna go with somebody that that understands it a lot
better than Shannon, that can help Shannon understand it. But no,
(10:32):
I don't understand digital currency. I don't understand the computer.
I can cut it on. That's that's about all I
got for. I don't even know. I don't know anything
about the computer. If they can't, if they can't, just
like like on my phone, they got Google, I can
hit ESPN, I can hit Google News. That's about all
I got. Or let me type in something I think,
like on a computer, you gotta type in like WW
(10:53):
something right, Oh.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Yeah, I know, yeah, you know you don't even have
to type in the WW you just typing with on.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
The computer dot com.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, let's shortcut. Let's shortcut.
Speaker 5 (11:07):
I learned.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
I learned that in high school.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
No, I don't know noth about the computer, So I
stay off the computer I got. I got a couple
of them in my house. I ain't been on them.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
I can't.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
I can honestly tell you, I can't interpret you the
last time. I mean, even like what get on zoom Jordan,
come over here, send that thing up for me, and
he take off and leave a lot of tag. But hey,
it was right and hung up. I called back on
my phone. I was talking to them on my phone. Joe, Oh, Joe,
(11:36):
I tried I could get a I said, don't worry A.
I said, I'm sorry, Hey, hey, well try this. I say,
y'all doing all this talking, y'all waste the time we
could be talking right now.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Yeah. So I just called back on my phone.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
But hopefully, like you said, Congratulations, Gary Wilson four years,
one hundred and thirty million dollars. He earned every dime
of it. Rookie of the Year, had a career year
last year one hundred and one catches, seven touchdowns. He's
had one thousand yards every year he's been in the NFL.
Kudos all right. OJO Execs. Coaching Scouts ranked the top
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ten quarterbacks entering twenty twenty five. No surprise at the top.
Mahone Boy number two, Josh Allen number three, Joe Burrow
number four, Lamar Jackson number five, Jaydon Daniels number six,
Matthew Stafford number seven, Justin Herbert number eight, Jerry Goff
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number nine, Jalen Hurts number ten, Baker Mayfield ojo.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
What did they ext Okay, what did the execs get right?
What did they get wrong?
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Well, obviously these are the execs.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
These are the people that sit up top, that watch
the game, that understand the game, that know the game,
sometimes better than Calvial fans.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Sometimes they don't.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
But now when it comes to two to three, two
three four, two three and four interchangeable.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
But you took the words out about bio bast get out.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
Hey two three hey, two three and four is interchangeable,
and it's based on preference.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Like number one is number one, number one, it is
gonna be who number one is for a very long time.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
What you've been able to do in his NFL career
in such a short amount of time going down is
one of the greatest, and he's still got damn planned.
But two three and four is interchangeable for me. You know,
I'm putting Burrow, I'm putting Burrow second. I'm putting Burrow
second for me personally, after Burrow, I'm going Lamar. As
much as I love Josh Allen, love Josh Allen to death,
(13:33):
I love him, I love him to death, but obviously
after after after Josh, I mean you can go jadon
days you go see they see I'm surprised, see they Shrouds.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Took this list after his rookie year. I'm not so
sure he's not in the top ten.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
And then and and and one of the things I
do have in probaly is how do we have the
super Bowl winning quarterback and not in the top five?
How do we not have the super Bowl winning quarterback?
Not in the time to ask you a question, what
do you get looking at?
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Okay, if we take if we put Jalen Hurst in
the top five, who you taking out the top five?
Speaker 2 (14:12):
You already said Mahomes and would.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
I wouldn't have I wouldn't have to take him out.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
He wouldn't nobody. Okay, So that means you kicked Jane
Daniels out.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, simply because Hurst is coming off a
super Bowl winning season. I mean, That's how I would
have put it. So when it comes to the execs
and making that decision, I'm not sure what they're basically
that off of. Because James Dails had a hell of
a year last year going to the NC Championship. Well,
hell Cy Stroud made the playoffs his rookie year and
turn that damn program program, turn that damn franchise around
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his first year.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
People really love Justin Herbert. I don't see I mean
coming into the season. Okay, I get it, he got
it all.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
He got it a talent.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
It is undeniable, yes, yes.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
But how'd Jalen Hurts take a step back when he
has the He he still has the best offensive line
in football, He has the best running back in football.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
He has a receivering.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Cords his he might have a top what he might have.
He does have a top three receiving duo. So how
is he not like ranked? I'm not so sure that
I have. I wouldn't put put Joe.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
I get it.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
If you just looking at somebody saying, okay, we're gonna
just go have y'all out there, throw the ball.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Oh oh, he gonna wow you. He can throw the
ball probably six yard to die. He can throw. He
can throw from one hash all the way up to
the other. He can throw. He can make all the throws.
We're not denying that, right, but are we sure? Are
we sure? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (15:41):
And he's like that he I I'm just I'm just
saying he's he's like that based on watching him. He was,
hey when when Mike Williams and Keenan Allen were there.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Yeah, Herbert was a quarterback.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Right, Oh yeah, we're not Ojo. We're not gonna deny
that he can't spend the ball because he can.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Hey, he can. He can flat out he can flat
out throw it.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
And Miami's situation might be a lot different had they
had him at quarterback and he's throwing the wattle in
Tyreek and John new Smith and some of the other
guys that he that had the opportunity.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
But here we are.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
The thing that what Josh does is that Josh has
he throws like thirty touchdowns and he might rush for
ten fifteen touchdowns. That's what That's what you're like, bro,
how do we defend this guy because if it's thirty one,
he normally gonna get it. Except that that what that
goof died when they went for it, and they say
they changed the rule. You notice, Buffalo, y'all ain't got
(16:45):
a lot of rule change. Y'all got the overtime rule
changed because my homeboy got the ball and y'all didn't
get it. And so they say now we want everybody
to touch the ball in overtime.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Oh at least everybody get it option now you.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Got now, they got instruments that's gonna measure the down
whenever having the yard marker for one hundred years since
they had football, they had the yard marker now.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
But this is a good thing when you bring technology,
technology into the game. Technology is gonna get it right
every time because human error isn't.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
Yes, human error is inevitable when it comes to technology,
they're not going to get it wrong.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
A lot of people that love the game of soccer,
they don't.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
You don't get it wrong.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
How many times we don't see the man that man
fumbled the ball and they said he didn't fumble, or
that wasn't no funner, they said he did fumble, or
that was an incomplete pass, and it wasn't And it
wasn't an incomplete past because they still got a call.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
They still got a call. The New Jersey.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, most definitely.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
Hey, speaking of quarterbacks, now that we're on that, on
that situation, a chat and I'm sure the chat would
probably agree with me as well. One player where we're
gonna have to have to have a conversation about him
because he was a number one pick.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
He has all the tools and now he had the
talent right on him to where.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
He should look and be in the same conversation with
the upper Echelona quarterbacks, especially the top ten that was
just named.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
And that's my young bull down there in Jacksonville. There
are no more excuses.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
No hell noah, there are no more excuses.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
You got Travis h N. You got Travis Hunter, Now
you got Brian Toman Jr. I'm not sure who they
have in the slot, but this is the year.
Speaker 5 (18:26):
You get.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
You got to live up to your potential. Come on now,
come on, Sunshine.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Yeah, yeah, it's not never Owe Joe. And I think
they got a running back.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
I don't know the running back's name that that's kind
of replaced an he kind of had Atn on the
back burner.
Speaker 5 (18:45):
Oh hey man, god damn man.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
I mean tank, big tank Bibi.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Yeah, a buddy with total Yes, yes, he was that thing.
He was total that.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
So it's gonna be interested. You're right on your question
is can they protect?
Speaker 1 (19:15):
How good is the defense gonna because look that division
and that division got Tennessee. Tennessee is going with a
roof all right, C J. Stroud, Uh, we love what
they do. What they do in Houston, Indy is kind
of unknown. They went with it seems like they're gonna
be they leaning towards Daniel Jones. That's what it looks
like to be with you. Now, you can whatever. I
don't think. You bring a guy, give a got fourteen
(19:37):
million for him to be a backup.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
Listen, that's you know what that's I can't say what
I want to say because those conversations that I had
were in just for me not to be repeated on here.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
But what you just said is is what it's looking like.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
I mean, I'm gonna say, I'm I'm just gonna tell
you like that, how they gonna put Yeah, it's it's unfortunate,
it's unfortunate. And this is coming from in there, reliable Sauce.
I'm not Adam Sheffond, but I'm I'm I'm let me
take my glass sauce, so you know I'm bullshit.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Reliable Sauce. Come on, oh Joe, how they're gonna pay,
How they're gonna pay.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
How they're gonna come in and pay somebody that works
up under you more than they pay you if they're
not bringing that person in there to take your.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Job, you know what they do? Absolutely absolutely, But again,
is he the answer?
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Is he ask?
Speaker 4 (20:41):
Because he wasn't answer in New York? But you think
something changes because you.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Kevin the question you're asking and then I tell you
if he to answer or not, who you're talking about
to ask question?
Speaker 3 (20:50):
I know, listen, I know one thing.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
They got goddamned Jonathan Taylor back there, Alec Pearce, Michael
Pittman Jr.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
And god damn it's one mode.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
That nice little squad over there.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
Yeah, they got a nice little squad. Now, they got
a nice little squad. And the the defense ain't too shabby. Yeah,
the defense ain't too shabby.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Hey, Zion Franklin, but he might be one of the
best in the NFL. I'm not saying he's not.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Fred Warner got hunt. They got a nice little D line.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
Yeah, Hey, who's who's the d N for the d
N that's real good in in in in indeed, it's a.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
D and he makes he make a whole lot of noise. Pity, No,
I think he was.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Came from San Francisco. Okay, okay, okay, okay, they got
Alex Peers. They got Josh down. Yeah, they got Michael
Pittman Jr.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
Okay, Alex Pearce is the one that went number ten.
Huh that hey, Alex Pearce, Boy, you could go, boy
you hit me? Yeah, he'd be cooking for you could boy,
you can go cooking every time. Every listen, every time
I turn around.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
He did, he behind somebody's somebody.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
He'd be cutting.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Oh Joe.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
After Herbert came in at number seven, Jeremy Filer spoke
to an AFC executive who praised his study play but
made an interesting observation about how he's perceived around the league.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
He's always been a top five, top AQB accurate.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
To all levels athletics sound decision maker the exact said,
it's almost like he's underrated now in my opinion, he's
taken for granted.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Huh.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
All I know is that man had a twenty seven
point lead and they lost that underrated quarterback that we're
talking about.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
Yeah, yeah, and you know what games like that, if
you got a twenty seven point lead, you know what's
the number one thing you need to have with a
twenty seven point lead?
Speaker 5 (22:56):
Be in a game?
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Manager?
Speaker 4 (22:59):
That the one word that quarterbacks don't want to be
called that they that they think it's so bad.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
You manage the.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
Game, you be a game manager's I'm not saying it's simple,
it's easier said than done.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
But your decision making, the way you process information. What
a twenty seven point lead, it becomes different. You don't
put the ball in harm's way.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
You don't want three and outs, you want to you
want long drives, kill the goddamn clock.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
The greatest game manager or and the greatest quarterback and
the greatest quarterback, they're the same player Tom Brady. Look
at Tom Brady and that in that that Super Bowl
against the Rams, he realized that it was gonna be
a man look here, ten ten thirteen points might.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Win this game. Right right then?
Speaker 1 (23:45):
He said, if you go, you go look at Caroline,
they say, man, we'll shoot out. We got a we
got to score. How many times you see Tom Brady
blow up twenty one point lead, a fourteen point lead
because he understood. The one thing that I mind more
to them, and there's a lot of things that you
can mile about Tom Brady, is that he understood in
the first driver to what type of game it was
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gonna be and what type of game he was gonna
need to play. Bro, I'm gonna need to throw for
three to fifty four hundred in this game, nah, one,
and no turner was gonna win it for us. Sometimes
you get so caught up in who we are. I'm great,
I'm great. Let me show everybody I'm great in all
situations when that's not needed. Tom understood that even as
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even like in the beginning he was purely a game manager.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
They played to their defense.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
But even after he became Tom Brady, Tom Brady, that
TV twelve, the historically and transcendent figure that he want
that he is, he still understood his role.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Man, I can't turn the ball over.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
Yeah, simple, And a lot of.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Quarterbacks don't understand that because they get to a certain
level they feel, excuse me, I gotta play at this level.
Speaker 4 (24:55):
Nah.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Sometimes it doesn't require you to throw three hundred.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Sometimes touchdowns and no turnovers, or you could throw for
three fifty, but you have three picks and lose the game.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
The choice is yours. Yeah, and Tom has done a
great job of that. There have been.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Few and far between games and with you like well, Tom, hey, yeah, Tom,
you know the turnover there that hurt us. He under
he understood, and sometimes don't Joe, you have to he
fell behind and you have to like throw throw throw.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Well, hell if I know there ain't no threat of
no running game.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Hey, but it was hard because he knew, he knew
where he was weak, he knew where you were weak.
He stayed to his strength and played to your weakness.
Speaker 5 (25:45):
Mm hm.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
I don't think me personally, I don't think Justin Herbert
is underrated. I think he's rated about where he's supposed
to be. I think he's a very good quarterback. I
think he has some great out of around him. But
I don't know underrated. Where where you? I mean where
you who you're putting them in front of?
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Yeah? Five to eight okay you.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
And I know people say, well you gave if you
gave him that uh situation what Jayalen Hurts had.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Oh okay, you got to be with the situation that
you got.
Speaker 5 (26:28):
Yeah, yeah, that's it.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
You can't all the comparison and hypotheticals. It makes no sense.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
Are I think you put anything and you put on
you put any of the top quarterbacks and Jayen hurt situation,
I think they would yeah, they went the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Yeah, I mean, look at the offensive line he got.
If you said, okay, get the ten top offensivelignement, he
probably got four of them, four of them. Four are
definitely going to be the top. You can make a
case that Lane Johnson is the best. Now when when when, uh.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
Wait, make a case whoa Lane Johnson is the best?
Speaker 1 (27:07):
I'm saying when you say, I'm just cumine tackle. Now
when big Trent, big Trent healthy, big Trent hell.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
That he's the best left, he's the best left tackling. Again,
we can't we can't forget that. Dion Dawkins, Deon Daalkins.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Right, but you look at Jordan my Alatta, you look
at Land and Dixon, you look at the center, I
think it's Jurgens. They lose an all Pro, a Pro
Bowl center guy that's going to the Hall of Fame,
and they get another woe. Come in there and do
take right off right, and then we talk about lane.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Lane is what is Lane is Lane? He got the
right name, Bill mom dame.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
When they name it, they named the right thing because
you run to that side, it's a damn lane, best
believe it.
Speaker 5 (27:46):
So he.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Got he got the right name, but me personally evaluating
looking at all these quarterbacks and see what their rank.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
I don't think. I don't.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
I don't think Justin Herbert is. I'm not taking Justin
Herbert over any of this, just in front of it,
I'm not. I'm not taking them on Matthew Stafford. I'm
not taking them with Jayalen Hurts, I'm not.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
Yeah, yeah, I listen. I don't understand.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
I don't understand what the execs did or what they
were looking at, or how they made the assessment where
they had Jayden Daions at fifth and the Super Bowl
winning quarterback at eighth or seventh.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Year or nine might have been.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
I don't have it happening. And at ninth at that
I don't. I don't understand that. Are they Are they
using the talent around him against it? Yes, and saying
they're putting James Dallions at five because he did more
with yes, not more.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
Obviously he didn't. He didn't win that that that Pacific game,
but still.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
But even Super Bow they lost and played extremely well.
He had those two calls for their turnovers, but if
you look at it, he played extremely well, and you
know you can't turn them all over the situation like that,
and he had the one turnover, but they overcame it
and they forced Mahomes and that team and the more
turnovers and they won the game going away. The game
wasn't even close. It wasn't even interested after the first
couple of drives. Mm hmm. Yeah, But I don't me personally,
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I don't think Justin Herbert. It'll be interested to see
what the chat thinks, but I don't think Justin Herbert
is under is underrated. Speaking of Hurts, Nick Sirianni went
off on critics who say Jalen Hurst was carried to
the Super Bowl by his team. Yeah, that's bs. Any
time I hear that, it's cool. It's like it's a
nice debate thing that people like to have.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
And I get it.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
There are a lot of hours on TV show and
radio station that have to feel and to be able
to debate. I understand that. But we're talking about the
ultimate team game. There it is, and he does whatever
he needs to do in order to win each and
every game. Oh, Joe, is the criticism of Jaalen Hurts
is it warranted?
Speaker 3 (29:40):
You know what?
Speaker 4 (29:41):
I don't think because the game is not pretty, He's
not throwing for three four hundred yards every game.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
You know they don't drop back and throw the ball
a hundred million times. You know they don't have to.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
I like the quarterback that Jalen Hurts plays. I like
the way he plays the game. The game of football
is not complicated, hunk. It's really simple. I'm gonna take
what you give me. I'm not gonna make any mistakes.
I have Saquon Barkley, I'm gonna hand it off to him.
He gonna make things happen. And when it's time to
play the ball, when it's time to throw the ball,
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and we had plays for AJ Brown, we have played
for Devonte Smith.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Some games A J.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
Brown gonna be mad, why because they w or Devonte
Smith is going off.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
Then you would have some games with hell AJ Brown
gonna go crazy and Devonte Smith is not gonna get
the ball. That's the way the game is played. It's simple.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
At times, we tend to complicate it because it doesn't
look pretty and.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
It's not esthetically pleasing. The way Josh Allen does or
the way Joe Burrow throw for four hundred yards, that's
not the game. That's not the game that they play.
Over there in Philly, which is probably why they're gonna
be back.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
Again in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Looks if I like, y'all make a case for you.
They held it against Terry Bradshaw. Nobody's ever said Terry
Bradshaw with the best because why he had the best
offensive line, he had a Hall of Fame center, he
had two Hall of Fame receivers, he had a Hall
of Fame running back, and he had five six Hall
of famers on the defense side of football. So he
never and he called it on play, so he never
got the credit. They didn't hold it against Joe. Joe
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just happened. I can make a case when people talk
about the best players to ever played, there three names
that always come up, Tom Brady, Jerry Rice, and Lawrence Taylor. Yes, Sir,
sprinkle Jim Brown in there. They never held that. They
never held that against Joe. Now, I think a lot
of that had to do because Joe won two Super
Bowls before Jerry ever set foot in San Francisco. They said,
(31:33):
but so with Joe, with Joe before he got there, right,
But they yeah, I get it. He had Offensive Player
of the Year in sa Quan the best running back
in football. Okay, he got the best offensive lineman football.
He has two quality. He has two very good receivers.
Aj Brown is a three time Pro Bowler, Davonte Smith
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and is a probably the best number two receiver.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
That's what you know, one A, one B, whatever you
want to call it.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
But yeah, yeah, Peyton. They didn't hold that against Peyton.
Hall of Fame, Marvin Harrison, Hall of Fame, Marshall fault,
Reggie Wayne is gonna go to the Hall of Fame. Uh,
you gonna go to the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 5 (32:18):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Dallas Clark was a Pro Bowl tight end. Didn't hold
that against Peyton.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Brandon Stokely quality as well.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
A lot of times the people where people gave the
nod to Peyton, I mean to Tom Is because Tom
didn't have any of that until he got Randy. You
look at Wes Welcome, undrafted free agent Julian Edelman was
a seventh round quarterback out of Kent State. Uh, you
look at Damon at dan Avin Dola. I think he
was an undrafted player. Yeah, yeah, yeah, all those all
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those guys.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Uh, what the what was the number eighty?
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Troy Brown, So it was like he didn't have these
big name receivers that you're like, oh, I got to
have him. I would take him. You're choosing up squads
and be like, oh, okay, I take him. Look I
can't punish the man. They did a great job of
Look that had a quarterback in the second round. How
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we had the forethought the foresight to see, Yeah, we
gave this guy a lot of money. And you heard
a lot of things coming out of that, coming out
of of Philly, and you heard some of the stuff
that's coming out, and I don't know what to believe,
but allegedly, you know, you know, Carson Wentz was not
the easy to deal with, and you you know, you
couldn't tell him anything.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
And Jalen snuck right on in there. So you say,
you know what, we got this. I like this guy.
Let's build around him.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Now that offensive line was already intact, Lane was already there,
that had Jason Kelsey already there, Dixon, because Dixon got
there the same time. Dixon was the first round pick
and Jalen Hurst was the second round pick. They just
filled in the spots. They got Davonte and next thing
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you know, they try to make a trade for aj Brown.
I don't know what the hell Tennessee was thinking to
get rid of AJ Brown. And it's like, well we
got to our younger AJ Brown and trailing Burts.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
What Yeah, listen?
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Some some say listen he I don't know who idea
that was.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
In fifteen regular season games last season, Hurt through for
twenty nine hundred and three yards, eighteen touchdowns, five interception.
His passing touchdowns ranked twenty. His passing yards ranked twenty six.
Oh Joe, that's what. They're not a throwing team.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
They're running test I said, SA Notice that said simple football.
They don't complicate anything. We're gonna take what you give
us so I need.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
So what we're gonna do is that we're gonna prove
to you that I quarterback and throw the football. So
we're gonna mess up this dynamic that we got just
to prove something in to you.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
No, damn y'all.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
Object. The object is. The object is a game win,
and that's exactly what they do.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
We gotta run it fifty times, We're gonna run it
fifty times. If we gotta throw it fifty times, we'll
throw it fifty times. We're gonna do whatever it takes
for us to win.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
The game. That's the objective. Hello, you play to win
the game.
Speaker 5 (35:21):
Win the game.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
No, is he gonna be with those with those numbers
in that system. Is not predicated for him to be
an MVP.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
It's not right.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
He's not gonna throw four enough touchdowns. He's not gonna
have enough passing yards. Not when guys are tipping five
thousand every year, guys are in the mid for in
the high thirties or the mid forties. As far as
passing touchdowns, it's not conducive. What it is conducive for
is him to be playing a lot on the last,
the last Sunday or the second Sunday in February.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
It is conducive for that. And so you have the wait,
what are you looking for? What are you trying to
accomplish here?
Speaker 3 (36:07):
Hey, they win him, They win him ugly. They win
him ugly.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
Like I say all the time, the way they do
win is not aesthetically pleasing to others, which is why
they don't why they rank him how they rank him.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
Yeah, I mean if you got into a passing contest
because he throw the ball like some of the guys.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
No, that's not what he does. Not what he does
he win.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
Yeah, what we got here, Nina is Juwan Jennings wants
a new deal or a trade. He scheduled to make
seven point five million in his final year of his deal.
It marks the seventh grade summer.
Speaker 4 (36:44):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
You gotta understand, o Hoe, he was the third receiver.
Remember they had Debo there, they had Brandon Ayyuke. They
gave Deebo to deal first. They got Brandon Iyuk last year.
So you're the third receiver. You know, hey, not give
him get that many targets. Hey, that pretty good seven
half million for a third receiver. But he said, nah,
I ain't receive.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
In the third receiving no mode.
Speaker 5 (37:06):
Huh.
Speaker 4 (37:07):
How about how about we pay him for all those
times Christian McCaffrey all them times Christian McCaffrey made some
of those long runs.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
You know who's sprong?
Speaker 5 (37:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (37:16):
Oh you want Jenny block. He won the best blocking.
Come on now, chiefs in football, Yeah, come.
Speaker 4 (37:20):
On now, let's let's let's reward young bull for all,
for for the dirty work that people don't get to see.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
I agree.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
It marks the second straight summer the forty nine ers
are in a situation where receiver wants it to be
paid or traded. Last year it was Brandon and Jennings
has approached the forty nine ers about the request, but
little progress has been made. If a new deal is
not reached by the time training camp starts next week,
Jennings plans to request the trade to a team willing
to pay him.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
And this time you out you ain't no team willing
to trade. Ain't no team willing to pay nothing?
Speaker 3 (37:52):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you got to be careful too. You
gotta be careful doing that.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
You be yourself on the street, get the minimum contract, hey.
Speaker 4 (37:59):
And the then listen, And that's no disrespect to him,
but you got to be to be able to pull
that off. You know them type of Shenigan Shenanigans.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
You got to be that.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
You got to be that.
Speaker 4 (38:09):
For now, I'm not saying he's very very good at
what he does, very very good at what he does
in that system, but you have to understand, look at
the landscape of the NFL, look at the other teams
and see where you would fit in. We'll still be
able to contribute the way that you did here in
San France, because everybody else is already set. If you
think about it, everybody has their one, two, and three's already.
(38:30):
You know, we just had a draft, so you have
to you got to be careful and saying you.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
Know what, Okay, you know what. I don't want to
be here no more. I don't want to be in
no more. Okay, but where we're going?
Speaker 2 (38:39):
But see that? Hey, you see what to do?
Speaker 1 (38:40):
Oh if I work at a fast food restaurant, I
wait to the business time, the business time between what
eleven and one? Hey, y'all give me a raise. I'm
up out here. I don't know who gonna cook the fries.
Hey what how much y'all make it?
Speaker 2 (38:53):
Thirteen? I need sixteen to dour right, I'm sorry, I
can't do that, okay, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
One thing about it on that run, On that run,
they had that that that.
Speaker 4 (39:05):
I'm gonna just call it historic season because it was
to me. When they played the Chiefs, Jama and Jenny
was phenomenal. When Brandon I you who went out, when
Debo was hurt?
Speaker 3 (39:15):
You know who was making those plays?
Speaker 2 (39:17):
That was last That was last year.
Speaker 3 (39:19):
I mean last year.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
I'm tripping.
Speaker 5 (39:20):
I'm not bad.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
I'm sorry, I'm sorry. You know who was making plays.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
Jawan had a career year so he showed show.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
Not only Kenny Block, Oh yeah, not only could he
catch Yeah, for.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
Sure, I like it, But I just don't know, Oh, Joe,
with the money they just paid party, The money they
got tied up in McCaffrey, the money they got tried
up and Kittle, the money they got tied up in Bosa,
the money they got tied up in Fred Warner, the
money they got tied up and Big and Williams, Big Trent.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
Yeah, oh.
Speaker 4 (39:56):
Oh no, you could do you could do something because
you ain't paying me, no ship, you ain't paying no,
I mean not the peanuts. No disrespect to those that
are watching the chat. I'm speaking in football NFL terms.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
Peanuts.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
Come on now, hey, so can you can you give
us one more year? Like that?
Speaker 3 (40:13):
And they're gonna they gonna play with you again, Jo,
They're gonna play with you again.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
Nah, they won't. They won't play with them, Joe. They
just know that.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
Okay, you know we're gonna be able to pay him
and uh because plus the thing is they got Pier Pierce,
all right, and that the guy they got that they got.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
From Florida and he came back. Yeah, he played well
down the stretch on Joe so I can see it.
I'm training camp under this belt. Yeah, I like it.
I like it.
Speaker 3 (40:41):
I like Jna be all right.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
The Steelers are favoriting only six of their seventeen games
this upcoming season. Week one minus three at the Jets,
Week two, Seattle Seahawks at home minus one and a half.
Week six, the Browns minus six and a half, Week nine,
the Coats minus three and a half. Week fifteen, the
Dolphins minus two and a half. Week seventeen at the
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Browns minus two and a half. Should Vegas be giving
Aaron Rodgers more respect?
Speaker 3 (41:15):
I mean, Vegas is gonna base everything off the Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 5 (41:18):
We saw last year.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
Vegas going to base everything off the Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 4 (41:23):
Now yeah, And what I do know what we're gonna
get is we're gonna have games where Aaron Rodgers looks
like Aaron Rodgers of old.
Speaker 3 (41:30):
Then we're gonna have games He'll be like, man, what.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
The hell was that?
Speaker 3 (41:34):
That's just the nature of the business.
Speaker 4 (41:36):
As you get older as a quarterback, we're gonna have
flashes of brilliants. We're gonna have flashes of That's why
he's a four time AVP but then you're gonna have
some games where gonna.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
Be like, man, what the hell was that?
Speaker 3 (41:50):
And he's not He's not in a position anymore.
Speaker 4 (41:53):
With this type of quarterback that can elevate the players
around him, hes gonna need the players around him to
elevate him and make him job all of them.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
And I'm old enough to remember them. Because the player,
the quarterback used to get elevate the players. They say,
rising tide, you know, raises all ships. And that's what
the really great quarterbacks can do. They can elevate everybody
around them. But as they started to get older, they
needed players around them to lift them up. Right, So
because guess what now, I need a lot of boat.
(42:24):
So in other words, you go back here, go back
and study history. Look at the guys. Look at Peyton
and look at Tom, and look at all those guys
as they started to get older, guys that have won
multiple MVPs, guys that have won multiple Super Bowls.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
Look what it took.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
Look at Tom and Tampa. Look at the defense he had.
Look at Chris Godwin, look at Mike Evans, look at
what they had. Let's be real, look at Peyton. He
got to Denver, Look with the hair. They had Decker,
they had Julius Thomas, they had the Marius Thomas rested soul,
they had a win. That's Welker. They had Stokely there
(43:02):
for a minute. Yeah, no Seaman Reno in the backfield.
So as as as the quarterbacks, quarterbacks got older, you know.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
Joe Joe a.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
It takes it just takes more the guys that you
just can't do it. It doesn't have you know, it
is what it is. And and and I think the
thing is is that when you see that, you understand it.
And uh they're looking at it like, yeah, he he
don't have that Eagles offense around him. He doesn't have
a Saquon. He doesn't have you know, you know, I
(43:39):
like DK and I think, uh uh, what's the other
Austin Calvin Austin the third. They got some quality receivers.
I like Fried you offensive line mostly if that I
need the offensive line. But your best defensive player is
unhappy with his contract.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
T J. Watt.
Speaker 4 (43:58):
Yeah, yeah, Hey, you know they got Jayleen Ramsey over there,
Joey Porter Jr.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
Darius Slake and and there are they going for it?
Speaker 3 (44:14):
Hey? Hey where that defense gonna be nice black. Oh shoot,
that's a good question. No no, no, no, no no,
I think you're gonna.
Speaker 2 (44:27):
Have damn what do they put him in safety?
Speaker 4 (44:32):
So now now you got me thinking, you got Joey Porter.
He's staying on one side.
Speaker 3 (44:39):
So with.
Speaker 1 (44:41):
I think I think I think Jalen Ramsey can can
transition because I think he can transition to safety better
than those other two guys can. And then when they
go and then when they go three wives, he can. Hey,
he can jump down and Garrison can go to the nickel.
Speaker 3 (44:59):
Okay, okay, I like that.
Speaker 5 (45:00):
I like that either way go.
Speaker 4 (45:02):
When the Steelers play the Bengals, we know what's gonna happen.
They still gonna get this work.
Speaker 3 (45:06):
So they're still gonna get this work.
Speaker 4 (45:07):
Yeah, absolutely, And this I love. I love Slay, I
love Joey Porter Junior too. I love Jayalen Ramsey. But
when you play the Bengals, and it's to all my
Steeler fans that are watching as much as I loved
y'all because I show loved you and you show love
to me.
Speaker 2 (45:21):
But we were gonna get We're gonna You're doing a
lot of talking. You're doing the kind of talking last
year too.
Speaker 3 (45:27):
We beat we beat the stealer.
Speaker 4 (45:28):
Y' yeah, okay, I'm just letting you know we're gonna
beat them again, and we're gonna start the season five.
Speaker 3 (45:35):
And oh.
Speaker 2 (45:37):
Have y'all ever started the season five? And oh?
Speaker 4 (45:41):
When I was playing, Yeah yeah, two thousand and five,
we started oh my bad four and oh.
Speaker 2 (45:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (45:48):
But this year, this is the year we started now
five and oh, so we don't.
Speaker 4 (45:52):
Have to rely on no teams at the end of
the season, sitting there by the goddamn jumbo trying somebody
else in the game.
Speaker 3 (45:59):
Prayer that won't be us this year.
Speaker 2 (46:03):
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Speaker 1 (46:05):
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