July 6, 2025 • 41 mins
Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson get heated over the Washington Commanders still not paying star WR Terry McLaurin. Ocho reacts to making the Top 5 wide receivers of all time from the 2000s!
49:23 - A.J. Brown’s mindset for next season after winning Super Bowl
1:03:04 - Unc and Ocho Command payment for Terry McLaurin
1:12:02 - Top 5 WRs from the 2000s
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Oh Joe.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
During OTAs this week, aj Brown admitted surprise at its
current mindset coming into the league. We're taught we're playing
for this reason, We're playing for the trophy, and once
we got the trophy, it was just like I thought
everything would be fulfilled, like the hard work and everything.
But no, it's a journey. It's the journey that matters
the most, that means the most, because those are the
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moments you look back with your teammates. Those are spending
time with you, going to war with You're suffering together,
you're winning together.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Yeah, I mean once you look, I wanted to be
a Pro Bowl player. Yeah, I want to build all
an All Pro player, and I wanted to win a championship.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
I ain't thinking about no Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
I ain't even realize the Hall of Fame until Mark
Kinsler told me in ninety six. Like man, He's like, bro,
you could put together a couple more years, you can
go to the Hall of Fame. I'm like, what, I like,
they take seventh of rounders in the Hall of Famer.
It's like it don't matter where you get drafted, and
they go by production.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
I was like, Okay, that was.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
The first time that I had really even gave a
thought now mind you, Ohoe. In ninety one we played
in the Hall of Fame game. I went to that
very building that my bus resides in, not even thinking. Man,
it never even done. Bro, I'm from Glenville, I'm from
Savannah State Hall of Fame. Yeah, and Joe Green in
the Hall of Fame by Terry Bradshaw Rogers Stallbach. The
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greats are the greats in the Hall of Fame legends. Yes,
but you realize and it's not good enough to make
one Pro Bowl because hell, anybody can do it once.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Can you go back when they know you the guy,
when they game plan for your ass? Can you get
can you become an All pro again when they game
planning for you?
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:48):
When you walk to the middle of field, man, hell
of a game, shark man. O Joe, Hey man, you
gave us that work today. O. Yo, A, don't worrybody,
We'll see your ass again.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Yeah. That's what I want. I want where y'all going
to meeting on Wednesday. I want you on the.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Circle to a that tight end of eighty four. We
got to deal with him. And I totally agree with
AJ because there's nothing like. That's what you ojo. I
never missed the game. I missed the bus rides, the
plane rides, the bull drive it in the locker room,
in the training room joking and you know, meeting room
cracking joke. That's what you because that's what you're never
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gonna be able to replace. Ever, you never, you never,
and you look you're not best east with everybody, but
you're not gonna be around ten eleven guys that y'all
laughing at joking back.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
You're never gonna be like that again. It's never gonna
be like that again. Oo, No, it's not.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
And listen and just but what you just talked about about,
AJ Brown, I've become a little bit more fond of
young boy man as of late, hearing some of the
things he's talked about, not going to get into detail
on it, but his perspective on life and other and
other optics that I've seen him speak on, and he's
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becoming a huge, huge, huge favorite of mine.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
Not even the receiver A. J.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Brown.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
I'm talking about the human being, the person, the husband.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
The person he is, and values and morals in which
he stands and said, I never knew that about him.
I never knew it about him because I've never had
the opportunity to interact with him outside of the game
of football. But hearing him and where he stands, you know,
and in his beliefs, the very very very admirable from
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the outside looking in on on on what I thought
an individual was like, you know, based on what I
see on the field, but in who he truly is
off the field. Dude, I love dude, man. I love
he real sharp yah, and he got a sharp mind.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Man.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
So it was a joy to see him in a
different light.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Than what I expected based on the football player that
I got to watch on Sundays.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
M h. I mean, I remember we won the Super
Bowl and obviously and it's nothing like it. Like I said,
we broke the NFC. The NFC had run fourteen straight
Super bowls, oh shoe. And to win it and to
hold that trophy, to actually to actually be on the field,
to have the confetti come down to your colors and
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you got the trophy. Now, think about how many times
I've seen the Super Bowl winning team go on the
field and get that trophy and everybody's looking at it.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Now I finally have it.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Yeah, A small kid from Glennville, Georgia, went to Savannah
State and seventh round draft pick, and I'm the starting
tight end to pronounced my name and everything and everybody
in glimmer and say, you know what, I know somebody
actually played in the Super Bowl. As a matter of fact,
I probably went to school with him, his brother or
its sister.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
That was me and winning that trophy there was.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
That was that was like that was that was at
that point in time, probably the crowning achievement of my career.
And I remember going into the off season and I'm like,
cause back then, you know, sixteen games, oh shoe, And
then you know we had to still had the two
weeks and so we started playing. I mean we first week,
so I think I think the Super Bowl was damn
near like the end of January. It wasn't it. We
(05:08):
didn't bleed into February. And I just remember like the
off season on holl I was like, man, so I
took I took about an extra week off and got
back into it. And I remember when we came back
to OTA's and Mike got up in there like, hey, congratulations, guys,
I'm proud of this. I'm proud of you guys. He said,
(05:30):
if you want to be special, you got to do
do it again.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Yeah, there are a lot.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Of teams that won win in a row. He said,
if you want to do you want to be special,
you want to be remembered. We got to go back
to back. And that was the mindset that we adopted.
And I remember once to see we came out of
I mean, we had a we had a great you know,
as a matter of fact, we had a great uh
training camp. Everything was great. We had we're having fun.
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And Mike would put one like most teams have their
schedule up there, all sixteen games, right, we put one
game at a time. He said, this is a sixteen
round fight. We go on one round at a time.
R Oo knock the Patriots out and so we just
going down, just check it out, just checking them off,
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checking them off for Joe, checking them off. Thirteen weeks
because think about it, we won our last last game, no, yeah,
when our last two games ninety seven, Yeah, when our
last two games in ninety seven, now last game in
ninety seven, beat the Chargers. Then we go through the playoffs,
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win the Super Bowl. Then we come out, so we
win like eighteen straight games. Oh Joe feeling good. Yeah,
get to the playoffs. But I agree with everything he said.
There's something about that moment. And when I get on
the phone and I talked to Burns or men Ross
Smith call them foots, feed some of them guys, and man,
we just hey, man, you repersentch And so we're at
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the back of the playe. I mean, very few times, Ojo,
do we ever talk about the super Bowl game itself.
We're talking about going to the game. We're talking about
on the plane ride back, on the bus ride back.
Very seldom do we mention anything about the super Bowl itself.
We always talk about the plane ride or man, you
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remember we got a man we got snowed in and
we had to go get people on snowmobiles to go
to Buffalo. We get to Buffalo like one thirty two
o'clock in the morning and we got a one o'clock game. Yeah,
bab bet, that was so much fun. Ain't nothing like
that and nothing like that. And then when you're in it, Ojo, Yeah,
you don't get to enjoy it.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
You don't.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
You don't because you're in it and you feel if
you enjoy it, it's going to take you out of
that mindset of what you need to do to make
sure you try to stay in it.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
So man, ain't nothing like that.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Hey, aj Brown said he's also upset about the current
hair haircut prices in the country. Haircut prices are crazy nowadays.
I used to pay twenty dollars for a cut, ay,
j ain't no more twenty dollars cut, but we I
used to pay five two fitty hey when I but
you got to realize on you, I'll get a haircut
(08:21):
in the seventies and my brother my grandfather get mad
and my brother, you know, four dollars two to five dollars. Hey,
we get both of us get a haircut in college.
That's all you're giving you a teammate. And now wish'all
would play a guy five dollars to cut my hair?
Speaker 1 (08:35):
They please?
Speaker 4 (08:36):
What times are different?
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Brock? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Man, oh Joe, look, I ain't got no problem, you know, hey,
good sixty dollars for a cut. I would go ahead
tip your forty, oh Joe, dude, be they be wanting
two hundred three hundred.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
To cut me.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
Man, listen, it's listen.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Shot fifteen dollars for apart boy, you know, hold on
you talking about that haircut.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Twenty dollars, boy to stay said the grocery at the
grocery store, what forty?
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Yeah, well you well guess what how much are there
in the restaurant? Seventy dollars? So at least you got two.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
Hey, they got to make their money up some kind
of way.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
They ain't got to look, mar you look look a
lot of times, a lot of times. What happened, o Joe?
Is that if that, if if barbers cut athletes, celevet
and entertainers, they want to live that lifestyle. Well, bro,
you need you need to play, pick up, a play
a sport, You need to act, play an instrument, or dance,
sing or something, because you not finna come up on me. Hey,
(09:37):
I grow dreds first, I grow dred I get twists,
and I'm not paying no three, no cut I don't
care if I got twenty thirty fifty sixty million, I'm
not paying no three, no cutout, Joe, I'm not.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
That's a lot, but just a cut that listen, that's
a lot.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Now.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Now what we can say is is about our but
our our friend not too long ago. Who's down here, mammy,
Not that kind of service. Yes, I forgot, I forgot,
I forgot an Instagram name. But for that kind of service, yeah,
hundred dollars. Now be talking, you can talk. Oh yeah, okay.
If you will cut it, you will die it. You
will give me a facial.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
Yeah, now that I understand.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Now, I'm not gonna get that every time, right, not
at the time, but every so often.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
You know, you got your nice little date night with
your girl you want you.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Yeah, yeah, boom, there you go.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
Now you're good man.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Please, man, you think I'm gonna let you gonna be
on my head for cutting my hair for thirty minutes
and I'm gonna go give you three hundred and then
you want to expect to timp tip tip, I got
a tip. Don't eat excited to ride the bus. That'll
be a terrible experience for everybody.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
I ain't got that fy with yo, dude. But uh
now I'm trying to think, Hey Jed, Yeah, well I'm.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Saying I think I'm trying to think when I played
without playing fuck cut yeah, I'll play my twenty thirty dollars. Yeah, yeah,
I played the dude, Come my heir, Now you do
a good job. I give him I give him a Hey,
I think you're like forty five fifty ocs of hair?
Speaker 1 (11:14):
I give him a hundred.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
Ay damn big money? Okay, yeah, big money.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
But he did they do a good job of get
me in because like, like when I was in Atlanta
on yo, I like all my I like, I don't
like to know. I don't do no walk in. I
like a standing appointment. So for my nails, my facials,
my haircut, my massage, I would pay for the hour, pay.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
For the whole year. God damn paid the whole year.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Because guess what, o Joe, when I say, when I say, hey,
I want my time, them will have to move somebody
to get me in, as opposed to them moving.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Me to get somebody else in.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
Paid everything.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Yeah, I don't pay you. I don'e got back.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
Hey why are you hey?
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Yeah? I always did that?
Speaker 4 (11:59):
Are you you complaining about me?
Speaker 2 (12:01):
On?
Speaker 4 (12:01):
You?
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Fifty two hundred and you paying for nails, manicures and headcuts?
Speaker 1 (12:05):
They provide the service. What you doing?
Speaker 2 (12:07):
You taking money out of my pocket? I can't pay them.
I told him, I said I would. I told them, brob,
I would pay you money. But oh, you old me
fifty nine hundred and I.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Can't pay you.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
I ain't never heard nobody do that by you.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Yeah you day o your check this out. I remember
I paid. I had ran out because I get like.
So I got this package, and that lady runs a
special on facials. You know, if you go ahead and
pay you by twelve, can I get a mustle She'll
give you fifteen. I bought the package, got the job
(12:40):
at Foughts. I still got some of the books. I
have some of the books. I ain't got them no more.
But uh yeah, But I like that. I like a
static appointment. They know I'm coming at this time. Hey, uh,
we're not going We're gonna get my massage Monday. I
(13:01):
should get massages Monday, No, Wednesday and Friday. That's what
my massage, haircut was Thursday, nails Thursday.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
I like that.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
I like no what I like. I like structure. I
like a schedule. I like being on the schedule. I
think everybody knows that. And I'm gonna be a and
I wanna be a and I'm gonna be I'm gonna
be ticked if I come in there and I gotta
wait longer than five minutes, because you know, I'm coming.
I've already paid you for this time, so hey, don't
be trying to get aid. I can squeeze you in.
Come at two forty five, where you know my appointments
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at three, Because I'm gonna feel some type of way.
I'm gonna be siding. We previously spoke about the reports
that Terry McClory is frustrated with the lack of progress
on a long term deal. Well, new reports say that
Scary Terry is not attending Commander's mini camp. All these
camps now, Ocho, are mandatory. There are no more voluntary.
They're all mandatory, OJO. I would just sit you. Wish
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you're in.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Don't get that money, don't get his money.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
Can I tell you how you're gonna get his money.
I'm gonna tell you, yeah, I'm gonna tell you how
you're gonna get his money.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
How you gonna get it?
Speaker 4 (14:12):
Shoot, Jade Damn can go up there?
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Hello?
Speaker 4 (14:16):
Who is it in? Jayden? I need my number one quarterback,
I need my captain.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
I'm not sure what you need to do on your end,
but I know what I need on my end.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
I need Scary Terry to get that money.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
So I had that that that safety that so I
had that individual to throw to the same one. Pull
up the film from last year. I don't understand what
the problem is. I don't know what we mulling around
for get him his money. I still got two years
before I'm up, so we're gonna.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
Be all right.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
No, I'm gonna yeah this year, next year, after next year,
I'm gonna come see you too. And uh, if I
got him, that increases my value too, because I know
I'm gonna put up big numbers and I see what
it's going. So I'm about I'm trying to get sixty two. Damn,
I'm trying to get hold on. I tried to get Josh.
(15:06):
I'm trying to get Josh Allen.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Number sixty two.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Josh Allen would have signed two years. I'm two years
after Josh Allen. I'm trying to keep the market going. Okay, okay,
how much Josh Allen? How much Josh Allen got full
of guaranteed? I'll tell you what you ain't gotta give me.
You ain't got to give me for three hundred, make
it all guaranteed, three hundred. Josh Allen got three thirty.
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How much is full of guaranteed? Two fifty, he got
a quarter billy, he got two fifty full of guaranteed. Okay, boom,
that's me so six years, three thirty. I don't really
care nothing about that. Tell me how much if it floods,
if it's snow, if it's a tornado or range start,
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I don't care. Tell me what I'm gonna beat, what
I'm gonna get. So guess what by that time on
Joe two seventy five, that gonna be the go al?
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Right two seventy.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Five, Hey, so Dextroud be in that in that ballpark too,
then your.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Stride up there after the sheets.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Absolutely yes, and you better hold pat you Mahome, don't
do say you know what, I'm tired. All these jokes
make it more than me give me my true value.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
He wouldn't do that.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
It he know saying he's made it abundantly clear. He's like,
he's doing great with money. They've done great by him.
He's like, look, I'm just trying to keep this team
together as long as I possibly can keep his money,
good players around me.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
All my Tom Brady as I possibly can.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Hey, and plus the money that I make off the
field can sustain my lifestyle.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
And it makes up for what he's not gonna make
in contracts as opposed that other quarterbacks has taking a
huge lumsum.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Yeah, I think the thing is, Oh Joe, when you
look at it, my home boy, he's.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Gonna be like Brady.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Brady's not the is not the highest paid, was not
the highest paid quarterback. Even though he played in the
most years, He didn't make the most money. Aaron Rodgers
is at four hundred and eight million, I think, and
then Matthew Stafford's at three ninety one. Tom Brady way
way on that. I mean, Tom Brady, listen, don't feel
sorry for me. He made really good money. But Tom,
it became painfully, It became obvious to everybody the most
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important thing was rings. It wasn't money. Because Tom realized
as a quarterback he was gonna be able to make money.
Now he's making thirty five million to thirty seven million
a year.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
For ten years, so he good.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
So he said, now, now look, I give y'all something
to chase, cause y'all can pass me monetarily.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
I want to see the dude that's gonna catch me
with these rings. Who's gonna get eight, who gonna get seven?
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Who gonna get six While we're talking about it, I'm
already there. I'm in the clubhouse, he said. Look, I've
already shot under par I'm in the clubhouse.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Come catch me. Damn so god, damn tears.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Like Look, bro, I have been to the Pro Bowls
out of a thousand yard seasons.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
I don't really know what else y'all want me to do.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
I don't know what else I need to do to
show you that I'm worth whatever I say I am.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
Your situation is different. He's gonna get his money.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
It's just about being patient and the timing of when
it gets done.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
Miss mini camp to make sure you're working out before
the season.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
Start, maybe before training camp. You don't want to miss
another training camp. You don't know now, don't you don't
do that.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Don't do that.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
And I'm sure that.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
The organization understands you're going in a different direction. You're
going in a different directions. You had a phenomenal season
last year. You got things off, you got things off
to a great start. Don't don't eff it up. Don't
eff it up, don't piss off the fans. You had
a great season. NFC championship last year. Let's keep that
momentum and consistency of greatness going forward and changing that culture.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Reports are saying coach wide receiver wide receiver coach Reggie
Wayne Reggae Wayne, that is, Reggie Wayne is viewed as
a possible interim head coach if Shane Steichen struggles to
start the season.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Oh, Joe, I like it. You don't like it?
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Now here's the thing you know they're under you know,
Jim ursay rest is soul mister passed away a month ago.
His three daughters took over. I think it's oldest, oldest daughter.
Although they all have roles, she is the majority. She
makes the decisions because even if it's a family thing,
the NFL wants that be one voice. They want one
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person to be able to talk, and so she is.
She's the you know, the oldest, and I guess he
you know, put it in a situation where okay, you
handled this and it's going.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
To go accordingly, but.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Got to be very very interesting because it's one thing,
like damn, all of a sudden, we're thrust into this
and we're running a billion dollar corporation, a multi billion
dollar corporation, it's something entirely different when you got a
head coach situation in your first year. That's not something
that you know you've been on the job for five
six years old, Joe, you want to kind of understand it.
(20:23):
But your first year, you got to make that decision.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
I mean, listen, they've been around the game. Though, they've
been around the game long enough, they're going to be
certain decisions that are going to be made that can be,
you know, somewhat altering business decision and business decisions, and
that is one of them.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
Listen, I'm not sure.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Who made the call or who made the decision when
Jeff Saturday got.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
The opportunity, Jim Mercy your mercy.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
So again, he loves his players. He's really closed his players.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
I mean, yeah, so, I mean I think that I
think it would be a great, great opportunity for Regis.
He knows the organization, he knows the fan base, he
understands the culture and and what what not all the fans,
but what that organization needs to get Indy back to
their winning ways.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
But here's the thing, oh, Joe, you have to understand,
Jim Mersey had a personal relationship with Jeff Saturday.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
They're just even.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Though they're around, they don't have the same type of relationships.
They haven't developed that. And it's different male female, you
know what I'm saying on Joe. So going out, you know,
mister Ersa, going out and drinking with with with Saturday
and some of the guys is one thing. That's not
what they're gonna do. They're not gonna have that same
dynamic as their father had. And so that's what you know.
(21:45):
I don't wish I don't want Shane stinking. I don't
want him the man to lose his job. But I mean,
this is a situation they're just saying. They're just throwing
stuff up, like what if he eats struggles.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
Yeah, Shane is gonna be okay. Yeah, Shane gonna be okay.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Him losing your job is all predicated on how the
quarterback play is. Yessen the quarterback players, That's all it
comes down to. That's the idamn want to call it
the elephant in the room, but that's the guy damn
elephant in the room. How well is a quarterback player
gonna play? Because if the quarterback play is bad, he's
gonna get you fired.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
That's what happens.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
And sometimes they play just good enough to get themselves,
get the coach fired, and them cut self cut. That's
where rich Rich used to tell us Richard Smothe with
our special teams coach, He say, Son, you play just
well enough to get me cut and you fired. M
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Speaker 1 (23:14):
God hold on? Why yet? The hold on? What? Who
wh wh whoa whoa whoa whoa what?
Speaker 4 (23:20):
Lafe is Gerald yeap listen now Calvin Johnson hold on.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
And there was an argument about this earlier, earlier all
day on Twitter, obviously on my timeline, because I said,
the hell if that take me out and put Andre
Johnson now. They also, I love, I love Van Corna
what he did for the game, but as something Calvin
Johnson has to be on there somewhere as well.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
What about laughing Gerald, he just got the third most
catching the football lady.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
For Gerald has to be there as well. But then
people said it's the two thousands. So the two thousands,
I think Mega Tron only got maybe three years because
I think he came in and I forgot what year
he got drafted. I think he came in he only
had three years of.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
How many years?
Speaker 2 (24:08):
How many years are who the years? Was a laughist
year behind An Kwan because I think I think I
think Fitz was like one year behind and Kwan.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Yeah, it's it's it's it's a mother ship. Derek Mason,
Derek Derek Mason should be on there too.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
Now I don't think people understand d ma's.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Putting some work man. What of that man?
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Julio Jones, you're talking about two thousands though Jo and
Kwan was two thousand and three.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Then what you're saying Julio won in two thousand. I
think no, Julio.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Came into twenty twenty him and aj Green.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Yeah ah.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
Ah mm hmm, yeah, I like it. I like it.
I should have I should have been higher though, I
should matter.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Okay, who you who you? Who are you replacing you?
Replacing mass t o uh, Marvin or Tory.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
Holt like just off entertainment a loan. I'm number one.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Who you were taking out?
Speaker 4 (25:20):
I'm gonna put I just told you so.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
You're gonna put you in.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
You know when when we talk about numerical order, right,
doesn't everything start with zero?
Speaker 1 (25:31):
No, it starts with one.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
Okay, but before one is zero?
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Who zero is at ZrO You ain't zero, don't want
to be.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
Zero, so it's me then then t O, then mass
then whatever order you want to do.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Mm hmm. You know zero is the negative number, right, Listen.
I was.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
I was go have a quick comeback, but I missed it.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Yeah, I bet you, I bet you want to be
so if we ate, so we gotta take we're gonna
take our Hell no.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
Hed boy, we ain't taking off your floor.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
That's why.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
That's why, Hey, listen, I specifically said entertainment and fun
value only.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
I'm I'm mad at time.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
That's it, but that's hey, that was a good list.
I'm very fortunate enough that I was. I saw all
these guys. That's all these guys, Randy, t O, Marvin
played against Randy. I never played against t O, played
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against Marvin played against Hope played against O Joe.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
He he what hands on it? What hands on? When
times get hands?
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Was on that team in ninety eight, Hey, I know
he's on that team in two thousand.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
Tell Joe what I did, y'all? And we played, y'all.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
That's why I was the name. Nothing lost? How long?
Who had a big game?
Speaker 4 (26:59):
What I did? I did y'all when we played, y'all.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
I wasn't there in Baltimore.
Speaker 4 (27:05):
Yeah, y'all what I did to you?
Speaker 1 (27:08):
I think I think you might have had like three
and how many TVs? How many catches?
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Oh you're having two thousand and one against because we
beat the Heller?
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, Hey, pull them numbers up.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
Ash.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
It wasn't no, honey, that's for sure.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
Dout what that was my rookie year.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
That's okay. You learned that talking like you had two?
Speaker 4 (27:32):
I bet how much I had? Ask how much I had?
Speaker 1 (27:37):
What do you have? Ash? Fifty five? Sixty? Young?
Speaker 4 (27:40):
I had about by two thirty?
Speaker 1 (27:44):
No, he didn't play in the Baltimore game.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Yeah, I think you might have called a touchdown against
us in two thousand.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
I sure did. That's what I would do. I catch it.
That was at Denver then, but we beat hell at y'all?
Speaker 4 (28:01):
Are you were gone?
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Oh Joe, you had seven targets, three catches for twenty
eight yards against us?
Speaker 1 (28:11):
What I have? What I have?
Speaker 4 (28:12):
As hey? That boy was skating out there? Huh?
Speaker 2 (28:16):
What against Baltimore? Oh Joe, you do realize, Oh Joe,
you didn't. Y'all didn't even score. It was zero. Y'all
had zero again since you like zeros, y'all had on
ye this was two thousand and one. Yep, seven targets,
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three catches, twenty eight yards.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
What I have? I do? I have mere tub? Sweet
to happen to the other five catches?
Speaker 4 (28:46):
I ain't catch them?
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Well, first of all you had that was four targets.
I mean because I said you had seven targets. You
had three catches, so it wasn't five. You in math
didn't do too good. That was four you didn't catch.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
No. No, I ain't dropped no ball. Now that's one
thing I ain't do. I ain't dropped the money. I
ain't dropped the money. My head on my hands was
like glue.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
You hit me at a tub? Oh I scored in
two thousand and one. Oh, that was two thousand oh
I had three targets, three catches thirty two yards ago.
You see the difference, three targets, three catches.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Well, you play, hold on, hold on. You gotta understand
what defense I was going against. This was the Baltimore Ravens.
Man like, I ain't really, I ain't really get y'all skared.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
No, No, you didn't. You didn't. You didn't get in
the two thousand based Ravens defense. You got the old
one defense. Y'all missing too many pieces?
Speaker 4 (29:36):
Man, y'all wasn't missing too many?
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Oh what did he do? What he do the second time?
Because that was the home game? I think there? What
do you doing? Because I think he had a touchdown?
He might have had a touchdown the second time.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
Every time I play all them and score, Now, that's
what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
No, you didn't. You had little twenty eight means of
the yards. You ain't even average.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
The first down came my rookie year. They were just
introducing me to y'all. You know, when your first meet somebody, Joe,
they didn't want to get They don't.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Want to put me out, Oh Joe. The first time
y'all played, you had one target, no catchers.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
Dah, that's it.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
Oh you know what, because see that's my rookie year,
so they ain't really introduce me to y'all.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Oh that was the second time. That WASNTI we're having
that game?
Speaker 4 (30:22):
What happened?
Speaker 1 (30:22):
What I did?
Speaker 4 (30:22):
What I did?
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Yeah? Yeah, eight?
Speaker 2 (30:29):
I had twelve targets, eight catches. Eight You had one target,
no catches?
Speaker 1 (30:35):
You out there?
Speaker 2 (30:36):
He was out there bullgiving Hey, well year, what year
was that? Two thousand and one? The year you asked
my rookie year?
Speaker 1 (30:44):
What got to do?
Speaker 4 (30:45):
What I did after that?
Speaker 1 (30:45):
Though?
Speaker 4 (30:46):
What I did after I don't know.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
I wasn't there. I was in Denver. Now you want
to say what we did in different We played y'll
in two thousand and two. Well, yeah, I know, I know,
I know you lost.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
I did know. I know that. I don't know what
the numbers, but.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
You lost women numbers look like, asked what I did
to Denver?
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Yeah, I think you got a touchdown?
Speaker 1 (31:07):
What I do? I cast touchdowns? But we beat y'all.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Okay, we talked about from an individual standpoint, I can't
control I can't control the team.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
No regular season we played in two thousand and three.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
Yeah, yeah, what I did then what I did then,
because Hey, by the time two thousand and three came, Joe,
like I had fully arrived, Like I was like.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
A knocked Okay, what was it? What do you do?
Because that was car I think that that was carsonly
your Carson with drafted. Hey, hey, what year did you
change your name though? Too?
Speaker 4 (31:40):
I think maybe two thousand and seven. I just wanted to.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
If you'd played the Baltimore Ravens in two thousand we
made him change it back.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
Hey, Joe, listen, I changed my name simply for marketing
and branding purposes only.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
That's all.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Two three, Oh, Joe, you had ten targets, six catches,
ninety five yards of a touchdown.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
That was me. That was all right? What was what
was what happened was to go.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Ash thirty to ten was to score.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Bus stopped.
Speaker 4 (32:14):
So I was the only one that scored.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Yes, And it was late in the game when you scored.
Speaker 4 (32:21):
It don't matter how long was that gut in there?
Sometimes you listen. Sometimes, sometimes you gotta. When you go
on a date, sometimes you don't. You know, you get
the first base, sometime you get the second.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
It was, Hey, Joe, I don't want to tell nobody
but we had to call the dollars off. He scored
with a minute left in the ball that was still throwing.
He ain't had no choice but to throw.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
I don't know what you had.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
You had a choice, you had four quarters and you
had time to do something before the end.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
We beat the brakes on. Oh, Joe, you still celebrated
on that one.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
Yeah, no, no, no, no, listen.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
One thing I always did, Joe, is I never celebrated,
never did a celebration if you were losing, and only
if we were to tie the game, or we scored.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
First, or was it to go up. Yeah, yeah, I
ain't played like that.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Well, you ain't do no celebrating against on the teams.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
I was on that Ojo, Man, you're lucky.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
Listen, you lucky.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
We didn't cross path like at the same time like
you would use on the back end and I were
coming in.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
If I play during your era like during man, I
would have sought your ass up.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Boy Oo.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
I was like, I'm good for having tubs against Cincinnati.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Kell.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
You have to understand, you have to understand.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
We played well two thousand, dropped two, and what we
do in two thousands before you got there?
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Oo. Then before you got there. We beat the break.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
You have to understand how bad Cincinnati was back then.
Understand that, Joe, that that's not fair. So with your
defense still suspect. I mean, y'all got some great offensive
players with Joe and Chase and Higgins, but.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
That defense is.
Speaker 4 (34:01):
Damn only had one cast though, damn.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Oh my bad, oh Joe, we beat y'all thirty seven zero.
In two thousand, I scored twice.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
I scored twice. Already know that I don't like that.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
As a matter of fact, I'm most Daryl Williams.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
He will hey, hey, Dan will get hit boy.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Not me.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
He talking me in the n z on he had
the smelled the odorant. Though, I'll make a smell to
the owneran Joe, They're gonna smell to the Orneran got
the reference, gonna do that. I had my four catcher.
I had about four catches about fifty yard two tubs
man not asistent that in two thousand. No, you talking
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about I'm just the first game I gona touch down.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
The first game, hit him with like a two yard harder.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
Yeah, the game in Cincinnati, the thirty seven nothing, that's
when it knocked the Keilly Smith. That's when Robert Nette
hit a Kelley Smith and knocked him out.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
Of the game. Y'all about have had like forty yards
that game? The hell you say?
Speaker 2 (35:22):
I called two touchdowns that game in two thousand. I
did play. Yeah it is it is in two thousand. Yeah,
let me let me go, Lord have mercy see what
I said and try to shortchange me my numbers? Joke,
I ain't played. That's what I think I'm gonna know.
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Uh Ravens.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
M hm, okay, what is get them right? Man? Let
them know?
Speaker 2 (36:04):
Yeah, ad tried to short change me. We beat them
twenty seven seven no, no, no, no, Shenon sharp seven
for sixty sixty six and two touchdowns against who the Ravens.
(36:30):
I ain't play, y'all. In two thousand that was. That's when,
as a matter of fact, that's when Cory Dillon Ramps
broke the record against the Broncos. He ran for two
seventy five to seventy six, because the record was Walt
to Peyton to seventy five. Who broke OJ's record like
two seventy three? Yeah, but don't worry about it, old Joe, Hey,
(36:57):
what hey?
Speaker 1 (36:58):
I was that boy?
Speaker 4 (36:59):
But Joe you missed it.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
Saint Kwan Barkley's iconic reverse hurdle is the cover of
the Madden NFL.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
That's why I mean, Phil this is the sick hold on.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
This is the second straight year a running back has
been on the cover, Christian McCaffrey being the athlete on
Madden NFL twenty five that sparked the debate of the
infamous Madden curse once more.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
This is the first time a member of the Jacksonville
Jag has been on the cover of a Madden I'll
bet as a person being hurdled.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
Damn hey, the person getting hurdle, he he got to
be upset about that.
Speaker 4 (37:35):
Boy, he got to be upset about Oh.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
Yeah, he he immortalized. He made it.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
That's like that Jordan push off o Joe Russell.
Speaker 4 (37:47):
Yeah, I want to push off. He just he just
guided him a little bit out of the way.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
Well he only head that that's what he guided him.
Speaker 4 (37:54):
That's what elb it is it is.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
I just left this place just we were at Geno
State to night and they turned it into ste Kun
uh Chief Steak.
Speaker 4 (38:05):
It was really really, really really dope. Uh.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
Event I was able to congratulate Saquon On being the
cover athlete, and we talked about the Madden Curse.
Speaker 4 (38:14):
Josh Allen was on the cover, didn't get hurt. Win
not not too long ago, John a couple.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
Of years ago.
Speaker 4 (38:20):
He didn't get hurt.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
Pastor Mahome was on the cover previously, he didn't get hurt.
So I think sa Quon is safe.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
There have been players that have that have had small injuries,
nothing to where they missed a lot of time. So
I think we got to do it with the whole
Madden Curse thing. And Saquan is the one that takes
care of his body, doesn't really get hurt much.
Speaker 4 (38:41):
He has in the past, but recently hasn't been hurt.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
I think he's gonna be all right, And I honestly
think there's a good chance.
Speaker 4 (38:49):
That they might repeat.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
But being at the commanders have gotten better, being that
Dallas has gotten better, you know, obviously adding George Pickings,
I'm from an offensive standpoint, I'm not.
Speaker 4 (38:59):
Sure how they would look defensively. I'm excited.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
I'm excited to see what that NFC NFC West looked like.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
Man.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
Oh, Jo y'all was good. God, y'all was terrible. Oh ya,
y'all had one hundred and seventy four total yards.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
That game was at.
Speaker 4 (39:22):
That's what they want throwing me the ball.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
You wasn't even there.
Speaker 4 (39:26):
Oh yeah, I wasn't there yet.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
You better be glad you were.
Speaker 4 (39:31):
If I was, if the downcome would have been different.
I can tell you that.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
YA used to be raising hell when that ball don't
come your way.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
I think I might have maybe two instances like that one.
It was a playoff game. We were playing the Steelers.
When Carson went down, I was very frustrated. So you
have to get your production from somewhere when a quarterback
of that magnitude playbook. The playbook changes significantly when the
second quarterback comes in. So at that point, now I'm
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feeling put me in positions to make up for not
having him in, and we weren't able to do that
because we were playing the Steelers, and the Steelers that year,
that five year, that defense, that defense.
Speaker 4 (40:13):
Joe, Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (40:15):
So I just wanted to be I wanted him to
stop allowing them to dictate what we want to do.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
Let's dictate it, y'all will go do nothing.
Speaker 3 (40:23):
So outside of that, I was really frustrated. Joe uh
that that was one time and it was another time. Oh,
same game, Joe, I got I got mad in the
same game.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
Where well that that was the one you were acting to.
Fooling and a lot of what I just told you. Yeah, hey, Joe, boy,
See now I could have said something. See I knew
about this, but I ain't put him out there.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
Joe. At that time, I was on CBS and the word.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
That came back to me, we got You know, I'm
not one of those I don't have him problem, you know,
you know, like the ball not coming, I'll be I'll
be chilling, Joe. Just that game, the magnitude of the game,
and you allowing them to take us what we want
to do.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
You thought y'all were going to the Super Bowls.
Speaker 4 (41:10):
I promise you. Hey, Joe, all I needed was the ball. Joe.
Just put him in the hand. Joe, and listen, I wasn't.
Speaker 3 (41:16):
I wasn't one of those guys at catching one hundred
and twenty and one hundred and thirty passes a season.
Ninety you give me three or football is a game.
I'm good because two of them. Oh, I'm finna get
Jiggy Jiggy a bunch of catchers, shit
Oh Joe.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
During OTAs this week, aj Brown admitted surprise at its
current mindset coming into the league. We're taught we're playing
for this reason, We're playing for the trophy, and once
we got the trophy, it was just like I thought
everything would be fulfilled, like the hard work and everything.
But no, it's a journey. It's the journey that matters
the most, that means the most, because those are the
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moments you look back with your teammates. Those are spending
time with you, going to war with You're suffering together,
you're winning together.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Yeah, I mean once you look, I wanted to be
a Pro Bowl player. Yeah, I want to build all
an All Pro player, and I wanted to win a championship.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
I ain't thinking about no Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
I ain't even realize the Hall of Fame until Mark
Kinsler told me in ninety six. Like man, He's like, bro,
you could put together a couple more years, you can
go to the Hall of Fame. I'm like, what, I like,
they take seventh of rounders in the Hall of Famer.
It's like it don't matter where you get drafted, and
they go by production.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
I was like, Okay, that was.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
The first time that I had really even gave a
thought now mind you, Ohoe. In ninety one we played
in the Hall of Fame game. I went to that
very building that my bus resides in, not even thinking. Man,
it never even done. Bro, I'm from Glenville, I'm from
Savannah State Hall of Fame. Yeah, and Joe Green in
the Hall of Fame by Terry Bradshaw Rogers Stallbach. The
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greats are the greats in the Hall of Fame legends. Yes,
but you realize and it's not good enough to make
one Pro Bowl because hell, anybody can do it once.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Can you go back when they know you the guy,
when they game plan for your ass? Can you get
can you become an All pro again when they game
planning for you?
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:48):
When you walk to the middle of field, man, hell
of a game, shark man. O Joe, Hey man, you
gave us that work today. O. Yo, A, don't worrybody,
We'll see your ass again.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Yeah. That's what I want. I want where y'all going
to meeting on Wednesday. I want you on the.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Circle to a that tight end of eighty four. We
got to deal with him. And I totally agree with
AJ because there's nothing like. That's what you ojo. I
never missed the game. I missed the bus rides, the
plane rides, the bull drive it in the locker room,
in the training room joking and you know, meeting room
cracking joke. That's what you because that's what you're never
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gonna be able to replace. Ever, you never, you never,
and you look you're not best east with everybody, but
you're not gonna be around ten eleven guys that y'all
laughing at joking back.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
You're never gonna be like that again. It's never gonna
be like that again. Oo, No, it's not.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
And listen and just but what you just talked about about,
AJ Brown, I've become a little bit more fond of
young boy man as of late, hearing some of the
things he's talked about, not going to get into detail
on it, but his perspective on life and other and
other optics that I've seen him speak on, and he's
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becoming a huge, huge, huge favorite of mine.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
Not even the receiver A. J.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Brown.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
I'm talking about the human being, the person, the husband.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
The person he is, and values and morals in which
he stands and said, I never knew that about him.
I never knew it about him because I've never had
the opportunity to interact with him outside of the game
of football. But hearing him and where he stands, you know,
and in his beliefs, the very very very admirable from
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the outside looking in on on on what I thought
an individual was like, you know, based on what I
see on the field, but in who he truly is
off the field. Dude, I love dude, man. I love
he real sharp yah, and he got a sharp mind.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Man.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
So it was a joy to see him in a
different light.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Than what I expected based on the football player that
I got to watch on Sundays.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
M h. I mean, I remember we won the Super
Bowl and obviously and it's nothing like it. Like I said,
we broke the NFC. The NFC had run fourteen straight
Super bowls, oh shoe. And to win it and to
hold that trophy, to actually to actually be on the field,
to have the confetti come down to your colors and
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you got the trophy. Now, think about how many times
I've seen the Super Bowl winning team go on the
field and get that trophy and everybody's looking at it.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Now I finally have it.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Yeah, A small kid from Glennville, Georgia, went to Savannah
State and seventh round draft pick, and I'm the starting
tight end to pronounced my name and everything and everybody
in glimmer and say, you know what, I know somebody
actually played in the Super Bowl. As a matter of fact,
I probably went to school with him, his brother or
its sister.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
That was me and winning that trophy there was.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
That was that was like that was that was at
that point in time, probably the crowning achievement of my career.
And I remember going into the off season and I'm like,
cause back then, you know, sixteen games, oh shoe, And
then you know we had to still had the two
weeks and so we started playing. I mean we first week,
so I think I think the Super Bowl was damn
near like the end of January. It wasn't it. We
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didn't bleed into February. And I just remember like the
off season on holl I was like, man, so I
took I took about an extra week off and got
back into it. And I remember when we came back
to OTA's and Mike got up in there like, hey, congratulations, guys,
I'm proud of this. I'm proud of you guys. He said,
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if you want to be special, you got to do
do it again.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Yeah, there are a lot.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Of teams that won win in a row. He said,
if you want to do you want to be special,
you want to be remembered. We got to go back
to back. And that was the mindset that we adopted.
And I remember once to see we came out of
I mean, we had a we had a great you know,
as a matter of fact, we had a great uh
training camp. Everything was great. We had we're having fun.
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And Mike would put one like most teams have their
schedule up there, all sixteen games, right, we put one
game at a time. He said, this is a sixteen
round fight. We go on one round at a time.
R Oo knock the Patriots out and so we just
going down, just check it out, just checking them off,
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checking them off for Joe, checking them off. Thirteen weeks
because think about it, we won our last last game, no, yeah,
when our last two games ninety seven, Yeah, when our
last two games in ninety seven, now last game in
ninety seven, beat the Chargers. Then we go through the playoffs,
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win the Super Bowl. Then we come out, so we
win like eighteen straight games. Oh Joe feeling good. Yeah,
get to the playoffs. But I agree with everything he said.
There's something about that moment. And when I get on
the phone and I talked to Burns or men Ross
Smith call them foots, feed some of them guys, and man,
we just hey, man, you repersentch And so we're at
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the back of the playe. I mean, very few times, Ojo,
do we ever talk about the super Bowl game itself.
We're talking about going to the game. We're talking about
on the plane ride back, on the bus ride back.
Very seldom do we mention anything about the super Bowl itself.
We always talk about the plane ride or man, you
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remember we got a man we got snowed in and
we had to go get people on snowmobiles to go
to Buffalo. We get to Buffalo like one thirty two
o'clock in the morning and we got a one o'clock game. Yeah,
bab bet, that was so much fun. Ain't nothing like
that and nothing like that. And then when you're in it, Ojo, Yeah,
you don't get to enjoy it.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
You don't.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
You don't because you're in it and you feel if
you enjoy it, it's going to take you out of
that mindset of what you need to do to make
sure you try to stay in it.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
So man, ain't nothing like that.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Hey, aj Brown said he's also upset about the current
hair haircut prices in the country. Haircut prices are crazy nowadays.
I used to pay twenty dollars for a cut, ay,
j ain't no more twenty dollars cut, but we I
used to pay five two fitty hey when I but
you got to realize on you, I'll get a haircut
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in the seventies and my brother my grandfather get mad
and my brother, you know, four dollars two to five dollars. Hey,
we get both of us get a haircut in college.
That's all you're giving you a teammate. And now wish'all
would play a guy five dollars to cut my hair?
Speaker 1 (08:35):
They please?
Speaker 4 (08:36):
What times are different?
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Brock? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Man, oh Joe, look, I ain't got no problem, you know, hey,
good sixty dollars for a cut. I would go ahead
tip your forty, oh Joe, dude, be they be wanting
two hundred three hundred.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
To cut me.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
Man, listen, it's listen.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Shot fifteen dollars for apart boy, you know, hold on
you talking about that haircut.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Twenty dollars, boy to stay said the grocery at the
grocery store, what forty?
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Yeah, well you well guess what how much are there
in the restaurant? Seventy dollars? So at least you got two.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
Hey, they got to make their money up some kind
of way.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
They ain't got to look, mar you look look a
lot of times, a lot of times. What happened, o Joe?
Is that if that, if if barbers cut athletes, celevet
and entertainers, they want to live that lifestyle. Well, bro,
you need you need to play, pick up, a play
a sport, You need to act, play an instrument, or dance,
sing or something, because you not finna come up on me. Hey,
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I grow dreds first, I grow dred I get twists,
and I'm not paying no three, no cut I don't
care if I got twenty thirty fifty sixty million, I'm
not paying no three, no cutout, Joe, I'm not.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
That's a lot, but just a cut that listen, that's
a lot.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Now.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Now what we can say is is about our but
our our friend not too long ago. Who's down here, mammy,
Not that kind of service. Yes, I forgot, I forgot,
I forgot an Instagram name. But for that kind of service, yeah,
hundred dollars. Now be talking, you can talk. Oh yeah, okay.
If you will cut it, you will die it. You
will give me a facial.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
Yeah, now that I understand.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Now, I'm not gonna get that every time, right, not
at the time, but every so often.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
You know, you got your nice little date night with
your girl you want you.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Yeah, yeah, boom, there you go.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
Now you're good man.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Please, man, you think I'm gonna let you gonna be
on my head for cutting my hair for thirty minutes
and I'm gonna go give you three hundred and then
you want to expect to timp tip tip, I got
a tip. Don't eat excited to ride the bus. That'll
be a terrible experience for everybody.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
I ain't got that fy with yo, dude. But uh
now I'm trying to think, Hey Jed, Yeah, well I'm.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Saying I think I'm trying to think when I played
without playing fuck cut yeah, I'll play my twenty thirty dollars. Yeah, yeah,
I played the dude, Come my heir, Now you do
a good job. I give him I give him a Hey,
I think you're like forty five fifty ocs of hair?
Speaker 1 (11:14):
I give him a hundred.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
Ay damn big money? Okay, yeah, big money.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
But he did they do a good job of get
me in because like, like when I was in Atlanta
on yo, I like all my I like, I don't
like to know. I don't do no walk in. I
like a standing appointment. So for my nails, my facials,
my haircut, my massage, I would pay for the hour, pay.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
For the whole year. God damn paid the whole year.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Because guess what, o Joe, when I say, when I say, hey,
I want my time, them will have to move somebody
to get me in, as opposed to them moving.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Me to get somebody else in.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
Paid everything.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Yeah, I don't pay you. I don'e got back.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
Hey why are you hey?
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Yeah? I always did that?
Speaker 4 (11:59):
Are you you complaining about me?
Speaker 2 (12:01):
On?
Speaker 4 (12:01):
You?
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Fifty two hundred and you paying for nails, manicures and headcuts?
Speaker 1 (12:05):
They provide the service. What you doing?
Speaker 2 (12:07):
You taking money out of my pocket? I can't pay them.
I told him, I said I would. I told them, brob,
I would pay you money. But oh, you old me
fifty nine hundred and I.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Can't pay you.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
I ain't never heard nobody do that by you.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Yeah you day o your check this out. I remember
I paid. I had ran out because I get like.
So I got this package, and that lady runs a
special on facials. You know, if you go ahead and
pay you by twelve, can I get a mustle She'll
give you fifteen. I bought the package, got the job
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at Foughts. I still got some of the books. I
have some of the books. I ain't got them no more.
But uh yeah, But I like that. I like a
static appointment. They know I'm coming at this time. Hey, uh,
we're not going We're gonna get my massage Monday. I
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should get massages Monday, No, Wednesday and Friday. That's what
my massage, haircut was Thursday, nails Thursday.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
I like that.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
I like no what I like. I like structure. I
like a schedule. I like being on the schedule. I
think everybody knows that. And I'm gonna be a and
I wanna be a and I'm gonna be I'm gonna
be ticked if I come in there and I gotta
wait longer than five minutes, because you know, I'm coming.
I've already paid you for this time, so hey, don't
be trying to get aid. I can squeeze you in.
Come at two forty five, where you know my appointments
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at three, Because I'm gonna feel some type of way.
I'm gonna be siding. We previously spoke about the reports
that Terry McClory is frustrated with the lack of progress
on a long term deal. Well, new reports say that
Scary Terry is not attending Commander's mini camp. All these
camps now, Ocho, are mandatory. There are no more voluntary.
They're all mandatory, OJO. I would just sit you. Wish
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you're in.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Don't get that money, don't get his money.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
Can I tell you how you're gonna get his money.
I'm gonna tell you, yeah, I'm gonna tell you how
you're gonna get his money.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
How you gonna get it?
Speaker 4 (14:12):
Shoot, Jade Damn can go up there?
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Hello?
Speaker 4 (14:16):
Who is it in? Jayden? I need my number one quarterback,
I need my captain.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
I'm not sure what you need to do on your end,
but I know what I need on my end.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
I need Scary Terry to get that money.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
So I had that that that safety that so I
had that individual to throw to the same one. Pull
up the film from last year. I don't understand what
the problem is. I don't know what we mulling around
for get him his money. I still got two years
before I'm up, so we're gonna.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
Be all right.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
No, I'm gonna yeah this year, next year, after next year,
I'm gonna come see you too. And uh, if I
got him, that increases my value too, because I know
I'm gonna put up big numbers and I see what
it's going. So I'm about I'm trying to get sixty two. Damn,
I'm trying to get hold on. I tried to get Josh.
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I'm trying to get Josh Allen.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Number sixty two.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Josh Allen would have signed two years. I'm two years
after Josh Allen. I'm trying to keep the market going. Okay, okay,
how much Josh Allen? How much Josh Allen got full
of guaranteed? I'll tell you what you ain't gotta give me.
You ain't got to give me for three hundred, make
it all guaranteed, three hundred. Josh Allen got three thirty.
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How much is full of guaranteed? Two fifty, he got
a quarter billy, he got two fifty full of guaranteed. Okay, boom,
that's me so six years, three thirty. I don't really
care nothing about that. Tell me how much if it floods,
if it's snow, if it's a tornado or range start,
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I don't care. Tell me what I'm gonna beat, what
I'm gonna get. So guess what by that time on
Joe two seventy five, that gonna be the go al?
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Right two seventy.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Five, Hey, so Dextroud be in that in that ballpark too,
then your.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Stride up there after the sheets.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Absolutely yes, and you better hold pat you Mahome, don't
do say you know what, I'm tired. All these jokes
make it more than me give me my true value.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
He wouldn't do that.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
It he know saying he's made it abundantly clear. He's like,
he's doing great with money. They've done great by him.
He's like, look, I'm just trying to keep this team
together as long as I possibly can keep his money,
good players around me.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
All my Tom Brady as I possibly can.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Hey, and plus the money that I make off the
field can sustain my lifestyle.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
And it makes up for what he's not gonna make
in contracts as opposed that other quarterbacks has taking a
huge lumsum.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Yeah, I think the thing is, Oh Joe, when you
look at it, my home boy, he's.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Gonna be like Brady.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Brady's not the is not the highest paid, was not
the highest paid quarterback. Even though he played in the
most years, He didn't make the most money. Aaron Rodgers
is at four hundred and eight million, I think, and
then Matthew Stafford's at three ninety one. Tom Brady way
way on that. I mean, Tom Brady, listen, don't feel
sorry for me. He made really good money. But Tom,
it became painfully, It became obvious to everybody the most
(17:27):
important thing was rings. It wasn't money. Because Tom realized
as a quarterback he was gonna be able to make money.
Now he's making thirty five million to thirty seven million
a year.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
For ten years, so he good.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
So he said, now, now look, I give y'all something
to chase, cause y'all can pass me monetarily.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
I want to see the dude that's gonna catch me
with these rings. Who's gonna get eight, who gonna get seven?
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Who gonna get six While we're talking about it, I'm
already there. I'm in the clubhouse, he said. Look, I've
already shot under par I'm in the clubhouse.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Come catch me. Damn so god, damn tears.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Like Look, bro, I have been to the Pro Bowls
out of a thousand yard seasons.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
I don't really know what else y'all want me to do.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
I don't know what else I need to do to
show you that I'm worth whatever I say I am.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
Your situation is different. He's gonna get his money.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
It's just about being patient and the timing of when
it gets done.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
Miss mini camp to make sure you're working out before
the season.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
Start, maybe before training camp. You don't want to miss
another training camp. You don't know now, don't you don't
do that.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Don't do that.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
And I'm sure that.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
The organization understands you're going in a different direction. You're
going in a different directions. You had a phenomenal season
last year. You got things off, you got things off
to a great start. Don't don't eff it up. Don't
eff it up, don't piss off the fans. You had
a great season. NFC championship last year. Let's keep that
momentum and consistency of greatness going forward and changing that culture.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Reports are saying coach wide receiver wide receiver coach Reggie
Wayne Reggae Wayne, that is, Reggie Wayne is viewed as
a possible interim head coach if Shane Steichen struggles to
start the season.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Oh, Joe, I like it. You don't like it?
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Now here's the thing you know they're under you know,
Jim ursay rest is soul mister passed away a month ago.
His three daughters took over. I think it's oldest, oldest daughter.
Although they all have roles, she is the majority. She
makes the decisions because even if it's a family thing,
the NFL wants that be one voice. They want one
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person to be able to talk, and so she is.
She's the you know, the oldest, and I guess he
you know, put it in a situation where okay, you
handled this and it's going.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
To go accordingly, but.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Got to be very very interesting because it's one thing,
like damn, all of a sudden, we're thrust into this
and we're running a billion dollar corporation, a multi billion
dollar corporation, it's something entirely different when you got a
head coach situation in your first year. That's not something
that you know you've been on the job for five
six years old, Joe, you want to kind of understand it.
(20:23):
But your first year, you got to make that decision.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
I mean, listen, they've been around the game. Though, they've
been around the game long enough, they're going to be
certain decisions that are going to be made that can be,
you know, somewhat altering business decision and business decisions, and
that is one of them.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
Listen, I'm not sure.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Who made the call or who made the decision when
Jeff Saturday got.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
The opportunity, Jim Mercy your mercy.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
So again, he loves his players. He's really closed his players.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
I mean, yeah, so, I mean I think that I
think it would be a great, great opportunity for Regis.
He knows the organization, he knows the fan base, he
understands the culture and and what what not all the fans,
but what that organization needs to get Indy back to
their winning ways.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
But here's the thing, oh, Joe, you have to understand,
Jim Mersey had a personal relationship with Jeff Saturday.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
They're just even.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Though they're around, they don't have the same type of relationships.
They haven't developed that. And it's different male female, you
know what I'm saying on Joe. So going out, you know,
mister Ersa, going out and drinking with with with Saturday
and some of the guys is one thing. That's not
what they're gonna do. They're not gonna have that same
dynamic as their father had. And so that's what you know.
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I don't wish I don't want Shane stinking. I don't
want him the man to lose his job. But I mean,
this is a situation they're just saying. They're just throwing
stuff up, like what if he eats struggles.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
Yeah, Shane is gonna be okay. Yeah, Shane gonna be okay.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Him losing your job is all predicated on how the
quarterback play is. Yessen the quarterback players, That's all it
comes down to. That's the idamn want to call it
the elephant in the room, but that's the guy damn
elephant in the room. How well is a quarterback player
gonna play? Because if the quarterback play is bad, he's
gonna get you fired.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
That's what happens.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
And sometimes they play just good enough to get themselves,
get the coach fired, and them cut self cut. That's
where rich Rich used to tell us Richard Smothe with
our special teams coach, He say, Son, you play just
well enough to get me cut and you fired. M
MAL Football release their top ten receivers in the two thousands.
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Number one, Randy Moss, number two, t O number three,
Marvin Harrison number four, Big Game, Tory Holt number five.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
The Greatest Entertainment of all time.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Chad o Jo Seko Johnson number six, Hyde's Ward number seven,
Steve Smith Sr. Number eight, Reggie Wayne number nine, reverendni
Isaac Bruce number ten, and Kwan Boulder.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
God hold on? Why yet? The hold on? What? Who
wh wh whoa whoa whoa whoa what?
Speaker 4 (23:20):
Lafe is Gerald yeap listen now Calvin Johnson hold on.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
And there was an argument about this earlier, earlier all
day on Twitter, obviously on my timeline, because I said,
the hell if that take me out and put Andre
Johnson now. They also, I love, I love Van Corna
what he did for the game, but as something Calvin
Johnson has to be on there somewhere as well.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
What about laughing Gerald, he just got the third most
catching the football lady.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
For Gerald has to be there as well. But then
people said it's the two thousands. So the two thousands,
I think Mega Tron only got maybe three years because
I think he came in and I forgot what year
he got drafted. I think he came in he only
had three years of.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
How many years?
Speaker 2 (24:08):
How many years are who the years? Was a laughist
year behind An Kwan because I think I think I
think Fitz was like one year behind and Kwan.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Yeah, it's it's it's it's a mother ship. Derek Mason,
Derek Derek Mason should be on there too.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
Now I don't think people understand d ma's.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Putting some work man. What of that man?
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Julio Jones, you're talking about two thousands though Jo and
Kwan was two thousand and three.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Then what you're saying Julio won in two thousand. I
think no, Julio.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Came into twenty twenty him and aj Green.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Yeah ah.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
Ah mm hmm, yeah, I like it. I like it.
I should have I should have been higher though, I
should matter.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Okay, who you who you? Who are you replacing you?
Replacing mass t o uh, Marvin or Tory.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
Holt like just off entertainment a loan. I'm number one.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Who you were taking out?
Speaker 4 (25:20):
I'm gonna put I just told you so.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
You're gonna put you in.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
You know when when we talk about numerical order, right,
doesn't everything start with zero?
Speaker 1 (25:31):
No, it starts with one.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
Okay, but before one is zero?
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Who zero is at ZrO You ain't zero, don't want
to be.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
Zero, so it's me then then t O, then mass
then whatever order you want to do.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Mm hmm. You know zero is the negative number, right, Listen.
I was.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
I was go have a quick comeback, but I missed it.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Yeah, I bet you, I bet you want to be
so if we ate, so we gotta take we're gonna
take our Hell no.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
Hed boy, we ain't taking off your floor.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
That's why.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
That's why, Hey, listen, I specifically said entertainment and fun
value only.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
I'm I'm mad at time.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
That's it, but that's hey, that was a good list.
I'm very fortunate enough that I was. I saw all
these guys. That's all these guys, Randy, t O, Marvin
played against Randy. I never played against t O, played
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against Marvin played against Hope played against O Joe.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
He he what hands on it? What hands on? When
times get hands?
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Was on that team in ninety eight, Hey, I know
he's on that team in two thousand.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
Tell Joe what I did, y'all? And we played, y'all.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
That's why I was the name. Nothing lost? How long?
Who had a big game?
Speaker 4 (26:59):
What I did? I did y'all when we played, y'all.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
I wasn't there in Baltimore.
Speaker 4 (27:05):
Yeah, y'all what I did to you?
Speaker 1 (27:08):
I think I think you might have had like three
and how many TVs? How many catches?
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Oh you're having two thousand and one against because we
beat the Heller?
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, Hey, pull them numbers up.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
Ash.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
It wasn't no, honey, that's for sure.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
Dout what that was my rookie year.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
That's okay. You learned that talking like you had two?
Speaker 4 (27:32):
I bet how much I had? Ask how much I had?
Speaker 1 (27:37):
What do you have? Ash? Fifty five? Sixty? Young?
Speaker 4 (27:40):
I had about by two thirty?
Speaker 1 (27:44):
No, he didn't play in the Baltimore game.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Yeah, I think you might have called a touchdown against
us in two thousand.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
I sure did. That's what I would do. I catch it.
That was at Denver then, but we beat hell at y'all?
Speaker 4 (28:01):
Are you were gone?
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Oh Joe, you had seven targets, three catches for twenty
eight yards against us?
Speaker 1 (28:11):
What I have? What I have?
Speaker 4 (28:12):
As hey? That boy was skating out there? Huh?
Speaker 2 (28:16):
What against Baltimore? Oh Joe, you do realize, Oh Joe,
you didn't. Y'all didn't even score. It was zero. Y'all
had zero again since you like zeros, y'all had on
ye this was two thousand and one. Yep, seven targets,
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three catches, twenty eight yards.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
What I have? I do? I have mere tub? Sweet
to happen to the other five catches?
Speaker 4 (28:46):
I ain't catch them?
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Well, first of all you had that was four targets.
I mean because I said you had seven targets. You
had three catches, so it wasn't five. You in math
didn't do too good. That was four you didn't catch.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
No. No, I ain't dropped no ball. Now that's one
thing I ain't do. I ain't dropped the money. I
ain't dropped the money. My head on my hands was
like glue.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
You hit me at a tub? Oh I scored in
two thousand and one. Oh, that was two thousand oh
I had three targets, three catches thirty two yards ago.
You see the difference, three targets, three catches.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Well, you play, hold on, hold on. You gotta understand
what defense I was going against. This was the Baltimore Ravens.
Man like, I ain't really, I ain't really get y'all skared.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
No, No, you didn't. You didn't. You didn't get in
the two thousand based Ravens defense. You got the old
one defense. Y'all missing too many pieces?
Speaker 4 (29:36):
Man, y'all wasn't missing too many?
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Oh what did he do? What he do the second time?
Because that was the home game? I think there? What
do you doing? Because I think he had a touchdown?
He might have had a touchdown the second time.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
Every time I play all them and score, Now, that's
what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
No, you didn't. You had little twenty eight means of
the yards. You ain't even average.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
The first down came my rookie year. They were just
introducing me to y'all. You know, when your first meet somebody, Joe,
they didn't want to get They don't.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Want to put me out, Oh Joe. The first time
y'all played, you had one target, no catchers.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
Dah, that's it.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
Oh you know what, because see that's my rookie year,
so they ain't really introduce me to y'all.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Oh that was the second time. That WASNTI we're having
that game?
Speaker 4 (30:22):
What happened?
Speaker 1 (30:22):
What I did?
Speaker 4 (30:22):
What I did?
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Yeah? Yeah, eight?
Speaker 2 (30:29):
I had twelve targets, eight catches. Eight You had one target,
no catches?
Speaker 1 (30:35):
You out there?
Speaker 2 (30:36):
He was out there bullgiving Hey, well year, what year
was that? Two thousand and one? The year you asked
my rookie year?
Speaker 1 (30:44):
What got to do?
Speaker 4 (30:45):
What I did after that?
Speaker 1 (30:45):
Though?
Speaker 4 (30:46):
What I did after I don't know.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
I wasn't there. I was in Denver. Now you want
to say what we did in different We played y'll
in two thousand and two. Well, yeah, I know, I know,
I know you lost.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
I did know. I know that. I don't know what
the numbers, but.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
You lost women numbers look like, asked what I did
to Denver?
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Yeah, I think you got a touchdown?
Speaker 1 (31:07):
What I do? I cast touchdowns? But we beat y'all.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Okay, we talked about from an individual standpoint, I can't
control I can't control the team.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
No regular season we played in two thousand and three.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
Yeah, yeah, what I did then what I did then,
because Hey, by the time two thousand and three came, Joe,
like I had fully arrived, Like I was like.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
A knocked Okay, what was it? What do you do?
Because that was car I think that that was carsonly
your Carson with drafted. Hey, hey, what year did you
change your name though? Too?
Speaker 4 (31:40):
I think maybe two thousand and seven. I just wanted to.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
If you'd played the Baltimore Ravens in two thousand we
made him change it back.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
Hey, Joe, listen, I changed my name simply for marketing
and branding purposes only.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
That's all.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Two three, Oh, Joe, you had ten targets, six catches,
ninety five yards of a touchdown.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
That was me. That was all right? What was what
was what happened was to go.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Ash thirty to ten was to score.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Bus stopped.
Speaker 4 (32:14):
So I was the only one that scored.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Yes, And it was late in the game when you scored.
Speaker 4 (32:21):
It don't matter how long was that gut in there?
Sometimes you listen. Sometimes, sometimes you gotta. When you go
on a date, sometimes you don't. You know, you get
the first base, sometime you get the second.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
It was, Hey, Joe, I don't want to tell nobody
but we had to call the dollars off. He scored
with a minute left in the ball that was still throwing.
He ain't had no choice but to throw.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
I don't know what you had.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
You had a choice, you had four quarters and you
had time to do something before the end.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
We beat the brakes on. Oh, Joe, you still celebrated
on that one.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
Yeah, no, no, no, no, listen.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
One thing I always did, Joe, is I never celebrated,
never did a celebration if you were losing, and only
if we were to tie the game, or we scored.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
First, or was it to go up. Yeah, yeah, I
ain't played like that.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Well, you ain't do no celebrating against on the teams.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
I was on that Ojo, Man, you're lucky.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
Listen, you lucky.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
We didn't cross path like at the same time like
you would use on the back end and I were
coming in.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
If I play during your era like during man, I
would have sought your ass up.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Boy Oo.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
I was like, I'm good for having tubs against Cincinnati.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Kell.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
You have to understand, you have to understand.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
We played well two thousand, dropped two, and what we
do in two thousands before you got there?
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Oo. Then before you got there. We beat the break.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
You have to understand how bad Cincinnati was back then.
Understand that, Joe, that that's not fair. So with your
defense still suspect. I mean, y'all got some great offensive
players with Joe and Chase and Higgins, but.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
That defense is.
Speaker 4 (34:01):
Damn only had one cast though, damn.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Oh my bad, oh Joe, we beat y'all thirty seven zero.
In two thousand, I scored twice.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
I scored twice. Already know that I don't like that.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
As a matter of fact, I'm most Daryl Williams.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
He will hey, hey, Dan will get hit boy.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Not me.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
He talking me in the n z on he had
the smelled the odorant. Though, I'll make a smell to
the owneran Joe, They're gonna smell to the Orneran got
the reference, gonna do that. I had my four catcher.
I had about four catches about fifty yard two tubs
man not asistent that in two thousand. No, you talking
(34:55):
about I'm just the first game I gona touch down.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
The first game, hit him with like a two yard harder.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
Yeah, the game in Cincinnati, the thirty seven nothing, that's
when it knocked the Keilly Smith. That's when Robert Nette
hit a Kelley Smith and knocked him out.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
Of the game. Y'all about have had like forty yards
that game? The hell you say?
Speaker 2 (35:22):
I called two touchdowns that game in two thousand. I
did play. Yeah it is it is in two thousand. Yeah,
let me let me go, Lord have mercy see what
I said and try to shortchange me my numbers? Joke,
I ain't played. That's what I think I'm gonna know.
(35:44):
Uh Ravens.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
M hm, okay, what is get them right? Man? Let
them know?
Speaker 2 (36:04):
Yeah, ad tried to short change me. We beat them
twenty seven seven no, no, no, no, Shenon sharp seven
for sixty sixty six and two touchdowns against who the Ravens.
(36:30):
I ain't play, y'all. In two thousand that was. That's when,
as a matter of fact, that's when Cory Dillon Ramps
broke the record against the Broncos. He ran for two
seventy five to seventy six, because the record was Walt
to Peyton to seventy five. Who broke OJ's record like
two seventy three? Yeah, but don't worry about it, old Joe, Hey,
(36:57):
what hey?
Speaker 1 (36:58):
I was that boy?
Speaker 4 (36:59):
But Joe you missed it.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
Saint Kwan Barkley's iconic reverse hurdle is the cover of
the Madden NFL.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
That's why I mean, Phil this is the sick hold on.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
This is the second straight year a running back has
been on the cover, Christian McCaffrey being the athlete on
Madden NFL twenty five that sparked the debate of the
infamous Madden curse once more.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
This is the first time a member of the Jacksonville
Jag has been on the cover of a Madden I'll
bet as a person being hurdled.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
Damn hey, the person getting hurdle, he he got to
be upset about that.
Speaker 4 (37:35):
Boy, he got to be upset about Oh.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
Yeah, he he immortalized. He made it.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
That's like that Jordan push off o Joe Russell.
Speaker 4 (37:47):
Yeah, I want to push off. He just he just
guided him a little bit out of the way.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
Well he only head that that's what he guided him.
Speaker 4 (37:54):
That's what elb it is it is.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
I just left this place just we were at Geno
State to night and they turned it into ste Kun
uh Chief Steak.
Speaker 4 (38:05):
It was really really, really really dope. Uh.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
Event I was able to congratulate Saquon On being the
cover athlete, and we talked about the Madden Curse.
Speaker 4 (38:14):
Josh Allen was on the cover, didn't get hurt. Win
not not too long ago, John a couple.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
Of years ago.
Speaker 4 (38:20):
He didn't get hurt.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
Pastor Mahome was on the cover previously, he didn't get hurt.
So I think sa Quon is safe.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
There have been players that have that have had small injuries,
nothing to where they missed a lot of time. So
I think we got to do it with the whole
Madden Curse thing. And Saquan is the one that takes
care of his body, doesn't really get hurt much.
Speaker 4 (38:41):
He has in the past, but recently hasn't been hurt.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
I think he's gonna be all right, And I honestly
think there's a good chance.
Speaker 4 (38:49):
That they might repeat.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
But being at the commanders have gotten better, being that
Dallas has gotten better, you know, obviously adding George Pickings,
I'm from an offensive standpoint, I'm not.
Speaker 4 (38:59):
Sure how they would look defensively. I'm excited.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
I'm excited to see what that NFC NFC West looked like.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
Man.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
Oh, Jo y'all was good. God, y'all was terrible. Oh ya,
y'all had one hundred and seventy four total yards.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
That game was at.
Speaker 4 (39:22):
That's what they want throwing me the ball.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
You wasn't even there.
Speaker 4 (39:26):
Oh yeah, I wasn't there yet.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
You better be glad you were.
Speaker 4 (39:31):
If I was, if the downcome would have been different.
I can tell you that.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
YA used to be raising hell when that ball don't
come your way.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
I think I might have maybe two instances like that one.
It was a playoff game. We were playing the Steelers.
When Carson went down, I was very frustrated. So you
have to get your production from somewhere when a quarterback
of that magnitude playbook. The playbook changes significantly when the
second quarterback comes in. So at that point, now I'm
(40:02):
feeling put me in positions to make up for not
having him in, and we weren't able to do that
because we were playing the Steelers, and the Steelers that year,
that five year, that defense, that defense.
Speaker 4 (40:13):
Joe, Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (40:15):
So I just wanted to be I wanted him to
stop allowing them to dictate what we want to do.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
Let's dictate it, y'all will go do nothing.
Speaker 3 (40:23):
So outside of that, I was really frustrated. Joe uh
that that was one time and it was another time. Oh,
same game, Joe, I got I got mad in the
same game.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
Where well that that was the one you were acting to.
Fooling and a lot of what I just told you. Yeah, hey, Joe, boy,
See now I could have said something. See I knew
about this, but I ain't put him out there.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
Joe. At that time, I was on CBS and the word.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
That came back to me, we got You know, I'm
not one of those I don't have him problem, you know,
you know, like the ball not coming, I'll be I'll
be chilling, Joe. Just that game, the magnitude of the game,
and you allowing them to take us what we want
to do.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
You thought y'all were going to the Super Bowls.
Speaker 4 (41:10):
I promise you. Hey, Joe, all I needed was the ball. Joe.
Just put him in the hand. Joe, and listen, I wasn't.
Speaker 3 (41:16):
I wasn't one of those guys at catching one hundred
and twenty and one hundred and thirty passes a season.
Ninety you give me three or football is a game.
I'm good because two of them. Oh, I'm finna get
Jiggy Jiggy a bunch of catchers, shit
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Shannon Sharpe
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