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July 4, 2025 55 mins

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Caleb Williams shifting focus from off-field drama to winning, Tyreek Hill’s viral Top 10 Quarterbacks list, and Brock Purdy landing a massive $265 million contract.

41:12 - Darius slay disses Jalen Hurts

47:36 - Bruce Arians on why Anthony Richardson should have stayed in school

58:06 - Will this finally be the season Lamar Jackson gets to the Super Bowl?

1:06:29 - Unc tells Caleb Williams to win and drama will go away

1:15:30 - Tyreek Hill’s Top 10 QB list

1:26:45 - Brock Purdy worth the $265 million?!?!

 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Everything can work itself out.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
Darius Slade does not consider Jalen Hurts one of the
league's top quarterbacks. Let's take a listen to what Slade
had to say about his quarterback, Jalen Hurts for.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
Elite, go to the top four guys.

Speaker 3 (00:11):
You know what I'm saying, That's how I do elites,
and like elite for me in the quarterback world is
Joe Borrow, Mahomesh Dang Ma Mar Yeah, and uh and
Josh Allen ThM.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
The elites they got their own.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
You know what I'm saying. You putting Joe, You're putting
Hurts now in that group.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
This is funny now, I just I just talked about
this on first tape. You know when I did my
I didn't say elite, just the best quarterbacks right now
in the NFL. I went Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (00:49):
Then when Jalen Hurts simply because he just kept me
just coming off a super Bowl in my third I
put Joe. And I saw people upset about that I'm
basing it off this season, that we just that that
would just play And obviously people would be like, why
would you put why would you put Joe at Joe third?

Speaker 2 (01:07):
Because I'm a bad.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
Go ahead. I want to hear you gotta say with this.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
I'm biased normally or how it should be based off
the season. It should be Patrick Mahomes, Jalen Hurts, Josh Allen,
Lamar Jackson, then Joe Burrow and my corrector.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
Am I wrong?

Speaker 1 (01:32):
I think I think he's looking at it like this.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
If I took Josh Allen and put it with the Eagles,
are they worse than they are with Jalen Hurts?

Speaker 1 (01:42):
If I take Joe Burrow and put it with the.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
If I if I put if I put Joe Burrow,
are they better or worse? If I put Lamar Jackson.
I gave him the exact same team he has. He
has that defense, he has those receivers. If I put
Patrick Mahomes got that same running back, they got that
same receiver, they say at that same defense. Now I
take Jalen Hurts and I put there, I put him

(02:08):
in any of those other guys systems.

Speaker 3 (02:17):
What you're thinking, it'd be completely different. It'd be different
because in those other systems, those guys that asked to
do things that Daylan Hurts doesn't have to do with
the Eagles.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
Agree, The problem is, O Joe, is that the ring
culture has ruined it. Yeah, because we take a guy, Okay,
Joe Flacco got a ring. So now people believe that
Joe Flacco is a better quarterback than Josh Allen, than
Joe Burrow, Lamar Jackson or anybody that. And I just

(02:55):
don't believe that. I mean, I don't believe Nick Foles.
Nick Foles is a super Bowl in Nick Foles isn't
a better quarterback than Lamar. He's not. He's not a
better quarterback than Joe Burr. He's not a better quarterback
than Joshallen, he's not. He's not a better quarterback than
Dann Marino. He's not.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
But because we equated rings best.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
No, not the way it goes, don't.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
I don't. That's not how I do it. I don't.
Now if you're talking about now, when we're talking about great,
I believe you can be great without having a ring?

Speaker 1 (03:35):
What rings coming to effect?

Speaker 2 (03:37):
O Joe? Is when you're talking about est great tis
But it's not the end all be all, because now
you have to add other things, all NBA, All Pro,
All Star, Pro Bowl, you know what I'm saying, O Joe,
Things of that nature, offensive Player of the year, defensive

(03:57):
player of the year, things of that nature. Did you play,
how did you play? How long did you play? And
how great were you? I mean, look, it's hard to
take a situation like guy was great from start to finish.
Tom Brady was not great his first year. Peyton Manning

(04:18):
was not great his first year. Boy who those years
in between, it between the first and it last. So
they toold a lot of people as something. So that's
just me. Look, everybody, everybody has everybody has their opinion
on how they judge greatness. Oh so this is so subjective.

(04:42):
That's your opinion. I look at it one way. That's
just me. Derris Slay also named Red Blanket Shit as
the natural leader of the secondary. It's just Slay the
part read being around me and a lot of veterans before.
I'm sure he lead that group the right way. That's
who I feel would be leading the group if it

(05:04):
ain't in the building. He's a great damn leader. C. J.
Gardner Johnson saw this, responding, vet's presence is always needed.
Don't get me wrong, but bro, what ve is needed
when young guys can hold their own que coop, You
got a crazyder in reading me and supporting cast Ringo Za,

(05:26):
Dre sam Eli, Sidney Tristan stay with the youth, you
ask me, I.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
Mean, I agree, ter a veteran presidence is always good
to have, especially in certain circu circumstances. Having that experience
is a good thing. I think it's a good thing,
and it's one way for the young for the young
bucks to learn. I don't I don't see it as
a bad thing at all. Are they arguing going back

(05:55):
and forth on Twitter?

Speaker 2 (05:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (05:57):
I think he. I think he said that.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
I CJ thought Slave would say he should be the
You know, I ain't get it that. Hey, last vet
that replaced me, help y'all get to the door.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
In the wildcard round.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
Remember that if we need a vet that played a
lot to help us. She didn't learn from the last mistake.
Not a crash out, just keep it red. He felt
some type of way because Slay didn't say he should. Oh.
Joe Bruce, arian regarded as the quarterback risk, first spoke
about Anthony Richardson. He said, Anthony, I think needed two

(06:32):
more years in college as a passer. I didn't see
him as being able to beat anybody in two minutes
and third down.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
If you can't do that in the NFL, you're just
an average guy. Like he's right, he's right.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
Have you got it?

Speaker 1 (06:45):
You got third? Oh, Joe, you make your money on
third down?

Speaker 3 (06:48):
Every time you listen, you hope, you hope to make
your hair on first, to make second and third a
little easier. Yes, if you don't, the better the passer
you are, the more easy it is convert those thirds downs. Now, obviously,
I think the repetitions. Obviously, being in college would help
him tremendously if you look at the numbers. I don't
have the numbers in front of me, so I don't
want to stay and be and be and be wrong statistically.

(07:10):
But he didn't play that many games in college.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
That's why he said he shouldn't, and he wasn't. He
wasn't a high completion percentage guy in college. So we're
not playing a whole lot. And I get why he
came out. Oyo, the guy's a top five pick. Oh yeah,
he got twenty five million dollars probably fully guaranteed. They
ain't paying that in nil and collective. So I get why.

(07:33):
I get why. You get why his family gets why
because at the end of the day, why we're doing this, Ojo.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
Were trying to set our families up. That's how. That's how.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
I'm not saying, oh, let me take that back here, Ojo.
There's no such thing as all of every but a
lot of us. What we do this for is for
our family. We're trying to get to the bag as
soon as we possibly can, because everybody didn't grow up
like a grant Heel that had a two parent or
the Mannings or the Watts. So we grew up in

(08:06):
a situation a lot of times it's grandma, a lot
of times his mom, and were trying to get there
to get them out of that situation.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
So I get why he did it right.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
But what Bruce has said, and I totally agree, he
could have gotten a lot more by staying and getting
better at his craft. But at the end of the day,
and the two minute drill and on third down is
as a quarterback where you make your money.

Speaker 3 (08:32):
You got to have it. You got to have it.
But but uncle, who's to say. A lot of quarterbacks
in the NFL that have made it, that have stayed
for four years, that have been there for a long
time in those same situations and convert third downs.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
So just why his big messages ojo, two minute drill,
third down. If you can't do that, your average. So
he's not saying that he believed that he would have
been at her. Look at Ba's record, Peyton, Manning, Andrew Love,
he worked with a big Ben, Roethlisberger had all those

(09:09):
guys in the early stages. Uh, he worked with he
had Carson. If I'm not I think he had Carson.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
And Arizona in Arizona.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
Yeah, okay, so he knows of something about the quarterback position.
I like, B A B A gonna tell you like
it is. Ain't no sugarcoat with BA. Now hey, if
it comes up, it's coming out.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
Yes. It was also one of the issues in over
the in Tampa now remember, Yeah, absolutely, that's why they
sent his ass upstairs.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
Absolutely, So I believe because Harry is the thing on Joe.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
He's a fifty.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
He was a fifty maybe a fifty percent completion guy
in college. If you fifty percent in college, fifty, he's
forty six. Put it like this here. He had a
worse completion percentage than t Bow in the NFL. And
you know t Bow was forty seven percent it was

(10:05):
worse than t bows. So you're not going to be
successful forty o Joe with the way to feel his face. Now,
the way they protect the quarterback, the way they protect
the receivers, everybody should be completing sixty percent.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
Yeah, actually you should speacause to me, I'm not saying
the game is easy, but they made the offensive game
much easier. Yes, and so that's that's the way defenders
and defensive handicap.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
So now it used to be if you completed in
the high fifties while you had a hell of a season,
oh yeah, lot a hell of it. Nineties when I
got to the league, and even before Ojo, if you
threw for three thousand yards was the standard. If you
threw for three thousand yards because everybody ran the football.
That's why many believe Dan Marino still has the greatest.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
Statistical passing season.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
Even though they've passed him for yards, they passed him
for touchdowns. He threw for forty for five thousand yards
and forty eight touchdown in that era.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
The running area, yeah yeah, duper duper and Clayton was
eating boy.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
Boy, did you know what they did?

Speaker 2 (11:13):
Look, I came in when they knocked you they knocked
your ass off. There was no part of the quarterback
that was off limits. The only thing you couldn't hit
him at the bottom of his feet, and that's because
he was standing on him.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
Other than that, oh, from the top of the head
to the top of your feet.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
You remember I sent you that clip what Charles Martin
did to a Jim McMahon. Yeah, he was just standing
there and he looked around like, oh I got you.

Speaker 3 (11:40):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
Oh that was commonplace. Go back and look. Bruce Smith
jumps out sides. That's what they call unovated to the quarterback.
Bruce jumped off slides, knocked boomer sounds and out the
game for like weeks, not just the game for weeks.
It was it was anything go anything, and so they

(12:03):
made it easier. So for a quarterback to be in
the forties, right, oh lord, all that that's Joe. He's
got to get up to the mid fifties. He's got
to get it up to the mid fifties. Oh, Joe.

Speaker 3 (12:20):
I have a question, Yes, single quarterback struggling. They have
a high percentage or high completion percentage. Do you think
it's because of his supporting The cast around him is.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
Not good enough, man, he got some you see what
he got the receivers he got. He got Jonathan Taylor
in the back. We didn't forgot to mention Jonathan Taylor.
We didn't mention him on YO.

Speaker 3 (12:38):
And honestly, having Jonathan Taylor back there, it should make
anything having to do with the passing game that much easier. Yes,
because I know they got I know they got to say.
I know they got a safety in the box.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
Absolutely absolutely, And you got Pittman. They got, they got,
they got another that's really good. They got.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
I forget his name though.

Speaker 3 (12:59):
Number ten, number ten, Yes, yeah, a Chad who oh hey,
I apologize. I apologize for the disrespect for young bull
whoever wears number ten? I forgot. I forget your name.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
Boy.

Speaker 3 (13:12):
I'm telling you here out of my mouth. Boy. You
is the real deal. Boy, you the real deal. And
I apologize if I remember your name more young, but you're.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
A real deal.

Speaker 3 (13:21):
Oh yeah, what's his last name?

Speaker 2 (13:24):
Unk?

Speaker 1 (13:25):
I can't, I can't. Oh, they got Michael Pittman Jr.
What's that? What's that guy? What's the other receiver?

Speaker 2 (13:33):
Alex Peers, Alex.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
Peers, that number ten names Alex Downs.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
They got that Josh Downs, Alec Pears, Michael Pittman Jr.
I think the tight end is more Alex Cox, and
they got Jonathan Taylor, and they had Brandon Smith. Took
some time away, he was dealing with some dealing with
some things.

Speaker 1 (13:51):
They got a nice offensive line.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
Yeah, there's there's no reason, there's none right for him
to be completed less than fifty of his passes because
he missed a lot of throws. Ooe And I said, Bro,
you don't have to throw everything through the hurricane.

Speaker 3 (14:08):
Gotta touch, you gotta touch. You gotta have some finesse
to your game. You gotta have some finesse. I'm trying
to think what quarterback is labeled and having a very
Mitchell Mitchell.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
Mitchell is number ten, O Joe Mitchell.

Speaker 3 (14:20):
Hey, what you gonna know? His first name?

Speaker 1 (14:22):
Added Mitchell. Yeah, whatever it is, he could cook.

Speaker 3 (14:31):
Hey, he'd be cooking. Hey, brother, brother Mitchell, I apologize.
I will never forget your name again. But I'm gonna
tell you one thing. You got nice receivers over there,
O Joe, I'm talking about nice.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
Nice, And that was no reason for him.

Speaker 3 (14:47):
Mitchell has a bigger role coming the season.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
There's no reason for him to be completing forty six
percent of his passes with that type of rich receiving
core or you got off is a line and with
Jonathan Taylor in your backfield, Well listen, he.

Speaker 3 (15:05):
Might be better this year.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
You never know.

Speaker 3 (15:07):
You have a whole off season to work on things.
Work on the things you need to work on, going
into having another mini camp, another training camp up under
your belt, you know, familiarity with the system you're in.
I think, I think and hoping hoping this year.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
He got to put the time in.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
Yeah, you got to. I'm hope hoping he plays with
a lot more confidence and he'll be fine.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
You gotta put it. You gotta put the time in.
You gotta put the time in. And if he does
that case, remember we had we had Pittman one, Yeah,
who else we We talked to the people like bro,
he he can't be the first. You can't be the.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
Last one in and the first one to leave. It
got to be the first.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
It's got to be first, the first, the first one in,
the last one, the last, not the last.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
First, first, last.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
But hopefully hopefully he gets it figured out, because like
I said, I think they got Look that's a very
competitive division. You got, you got Houston, Houston, you got Lawrence,
You're about to have cam Ward in that division. Because look,
if you go back and study it, Oh yo, look
at it, it's a quarterback league. Look at the NFC East,

(16:19):
look at the Look at the AMC. We look at
the MC West. What they have in the West. Look
at the division. I'll tell you who's winning it. Yeah, yeah, quarterbacks,
because that's what you got to compete against. I know
they're not on the field at the same time, but
you have to match him. You can't like, oh, our
defense go to hold him. If I throw for one
hundred and seventy yards, we're gonna know. You might win

(16:41):
one or two games like that, but you're gonna have
to match.

Speaker 3 (16:43):
That production every time.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
So hopefully, hopefully Ar gets this thing figured out and
get this thing turned around. O Joe, this is that
now we we in your realm. Lamar Jackson is now
the only AFC starting quarterback without a Super Bowl appearance.
AFC North, Yeah, Aaron Rodgers. He beat the Steelers in

(17:07):
Super Bowl thirty five. Well, I know I'm saying, but
he beat the Steelers, so he's been to one. Joe
Burrow's been to one. We know Flacco's been to one.
Lamar Jackson has no is Will this be the season
that Lamar Jackson gets to a super Bowl?

Speaker 3 (17:26):
You know, I don't know if it's gonna be the season,
but he will get that before he's done playing. I
know that much. That AFC North is so unpredictable, especially
with with with the Bengals. I'm not sure how they
will start off this season. You can kind of count,
you can kind of count the Ravens and Ravens and
being in every every season. As long as Lamar Jackson
as there, regardless of what pieces he has around him,

(17:46):
him alone can get them to the playoffs by by
himself and then the support as has always always been phenomenal.
And but you always know Lamar Jackson is gonna give
you this. It's like when you when you watch when
you watch gayn like you said he gonna get and
you watched SGA play, you gonna get that thirty. That's
the same way Lamark Jackson is. That's why he gets
paid the big bucks. As far as the Super Bowl

(18:08):
is concerned, I'm not sure if it will be this year,
but if it is this year, it would be because
they go to the playoff games each week and they
have no effing turnovers, no term. That's the only reason that.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
Kept from out, because they went like nine weeks in
the regular season and they have a turnover ojo. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (18:27):
Yeah, And you get to the biggest game where it
matters most and you turn it over twice and then
you still almost had an opportunity to come back and win.
But that's what it comes down to, you know. So
I'm excited for him, even as a Bengal man. I'm
excited for Lamar in general, you know, to take my
my Bengal angle start them. You know, I can put

(18:48):
that aside and actually root for the young bull man
to want to see him do well.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
Yeah, that's.

Speaker 3 (18:58):
Oh my bad.

Speaker 1 (18:59):
I'm fantom.

Speaker 2 (18:59):
Yeah, you know, we we know what. That'soe. That's all
you're talking, y'all leave, give a break, that's o Yoe. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (19:06):
I just I just I would. I would just want
to see him do well.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
Joe.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
What you think this the year?

Speaker 2 (19:11):
I think so uh uh.

Speaker 4 (19:13):
You know, they they went on a great run I
thought this past NFL season, and for me, I feel
like they got everything in the two box as far
as defense offensively, their high power offensive machine.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
And I can see it happening.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
I can see it happening. You just need to get
to one O Joe.

Speaker 3 (19:36):
That's it. Get that monkey off.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
He needs to dood. I mean he's too good. I
mean he's too good. I mean, look at he could.
He could easily be a three time league and BP Ojoe. Yeah, yeah,
he's got to.

Speaker 3 (19:48):
They cheated him.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
Look this, I think this was like the second or
third time that's ever happened a guy that because normally
the guy that the quarterback that goes to the h
is the All Pro oh, he normally wins the MVP.
Eighty seven it happened with Joe Montana. Joe Montanna with
the first team All Pro quarterback John Elwill win the MVP.

(20:10):
Did it happen another year? I think it's happened two
or three times. This was this was the second or
the third time that it's happened. I know it happened
in eighty seven. Eighty seven was a strike year. I was.
That was all my sophomore year in college. I remember that.
So you're saying he just needed to get there. If
he gets there and play, well, you know we're like, well,

(20:32):
you know what, damn ain't.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
Nothing else he could do it.

Speaker 2 (20:33):
It's kind of like Tom when Tom lost to when
he lost to the Eagles, he threw for five hundred yards.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
Yeah, they were like, well.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
He didn't stop anybody. He just needs he needs to
get there. I let him get there. Then I worry
about whether he plays well or not. I just want
him to get there. That's all I want. I just
want to say, I don't want I want to see
him on that big stage. That's the hell of a division,
and that's a gauntlet. Boy, you gotta yeah, and you

(21:01):
and you think about it, you still got because you
think at ALC you got Joe Burrow and you got
him in the same division. You still got my homeboy,
and you got Josh Allen.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
Aaron Rodneys there.

Speaker 3 (21:15):
You don't know what Aaron Rodgers you get it. You
ain't gonna get Aaron Rodgers of old, but you're gonna
get glimpses and then hot flashes of what he used
to be. And that ain't just enough to get him
still fans still a fans hope in the organization in general,
which is why they waited on his ad.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
Four time Pro Bowl running back Nick Chubb is expected
to sign a one year deal with the Houston Texans.
The signing is contingent on Chubb passing a physical. The
former Cleveland Brown running back which joined the Texans running
rushing attack led by Pro Bowl Russier Joe Mixon, Dammian Peers.
Uh there a gobale and fourth round pick what he

(21:53):
marks out of usc Ojo?

Speaker 1 (21:58):
You like this?

Speaker 2 (21:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (22:00):
I mean yeah, I do.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
I like it.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
I like it.

Speaker 3 (22:03):
I mean, I'm not does it take away some of
some of the carries away from from Joe? I'm not.
I'm not sure how that's how that's gonna work. I'm
sure they'll find a way. They'll find a way to
make it work.

Speaker 2 (22:16):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (22:17):
I don't think with Joe being a number one running
back and bring in another one, number another.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
I mean, you know you still got damn youar Piers
there you got a wale? Uh yeah, fourth round picking
wood he marks? There is no guarantee gonna make the team,
O Joe?

Speaker 1 (22:35):
Oh uh uh uh?

Speaker 5 (22:38):
Nick Chubb, man, I don't stop playing. Come on, I
don't don't do that. You mean no guarantee.

Speaker 3 (22:49):
I just seen score. I just seen Chubb squad and
seven hundred fifty pounds last in the power lifted me. Hey, listen,
he's a power runner and he always has been. Ain't
nothing pretty out him. And when you look at Nick
Chubb when you walking dress, you know in the locker
room where they had they had a little mannekeut on
the wall on that Jubb just how the ball?

Speaker 1 (23:13):
Well, listen, listen.

Speaker 3 (23:14):
He's a down here running man. He's really good. He
relies on his offensive line, you know, to get him going.
And I don't, I don't know, I just I just
I don't. Really, I don't like that move of having
two number ones or two really really good running backs
on the team like that. I mean, it's it's it's similar,
but it's two of the same type of backs. I

(23:35):
can see if you had something like Jamiy Gibbs and
the day of Montgomery, but you got two of the
same things in the backfield. Really or maybe I could
be wrong, Maybe I.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
Could Mixing catching the ball a little ball. He's a
little more shifty. He's not the kind of he's not
really the same type. Uh Joe Mixed is kind of
more like a Damon Pierce. He more of a power run.
I don't really know what he marks, so I don't
really know a whole lot about him, so I can't
speak to that. But but oh got a little bit
more wiggle, a little bit more twitch to it that,
uh than the chub. Chubby is all powered when you

(24:08):
when you squat six hundred, seven hundred pounds, you're a
power runner.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
Yeah, I mean, hell, I would do.

Speaker 3 (24:13):
I was doing that in high school.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
I mean so.

Speaker 3 (24:18):
Damn all right, that's a nice little combo back.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
Big fellah.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
You still ain't pay me my money titles?

Speaker 1 (24:25):
What are you thinking about that? Man?

Speaker 4 (24:30):
When I get back, when I get back to Atlanta,
I got I'm gonna put my big boar on the screen.
They look exactly like that black mask. Yeah, black mask
with that with that tan coat.

Speaker 1 (24:40):
Exactly like Joe.

Speaker 2 (24:43):
Were you at Joe?

Speaker 3 (24:45):
I'm in Detroit, Okay, okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 4 (24:49):
We we got out here with my Big three teams
Detroit and we're doing a little mini training camp before
we take.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
Off to Chicago.

Speaker 4 (24:57):
Uh this this upcoming weekend and uh playing our first game.

Speaker 3 (25:01):
So oh look, okay, okay, it's on TV.

Speaker 4 (25:04):
Oh yeah, it's gonna be on CBS. Baby, you already
know prime time. Stop playing y'all.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
Oh, y'all got money boun for to be? I mean,
come on now, come on now.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
Yeah. Chicago Bears head coach Ben Johnson is already tweaking
Caleb Williams mechanic issue. The second year quarterback has adjusted
his stance and keep his left foot forward before the snap.
Ben Johnson says, I've done it in a number of
ways in my time in the league, and really over
the last few years, I kind of gravitated towards that.

(25:34):
It's something that I feel pretty strongly about. He and
I talked about it. The reason why we want to
do it. I think it helps out certainly with the
quick game from the gun, and it helps us being
a little bit better of throwing a posture.

Speaker 1 (25:46):
For like a lot of other things that we're asking
him to do.

Speaker 2 (25:49):
O Joe, do you like this and do you expect
big things from Caleb Williams in twenty twenty five?

Speaker 3 (25:57):
I absolutely do expect big things from Caleb Williams, understanding
how good he is already tremendous, tremendous athleticsis to me,
has a very strong arm, and he's a dual threat
quarterback with the addition of Ben Johnson and the creativity
that he's able to bring to that offense and what
Caleb can do, I think it's going to be that
much better for them offensively. I'm excited. I'm excited for him.

(26:19):
The little twists and nuances that that he's that he's
changing in Caleb's game is really interesting. Probably allowing Keleb
to get to get to and drops a little faster
and being able to process information, especially in the cook game,
and I think it's going to help him in the
long run. People that might not like Kater Williams for
personal reasons based on what he likes to do and

(26:41):
enjoy off the field, I think.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
I think that. I think it's because of what he said,
how and his dad said they didn't want to go
to Chicago. I think people were still holding that against it.

Speaker 3 (26:50):
Yeah, well that that just came out before they didn't
came out. Just some of the things he did when
the US see and some of the things, you know,
the painting and nails, don't they I mean listen, just
personal stuff like that. Outside of what just came out,
I think they're gonna be alright. I think they're gonna
be all right, simply because of not only the supporting
cast he has around him, but getting a coach, a
winning coach like Ben Johnson. There is gonna is gonna

(27:12):
do wonders for him.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
Hell if it's gonna help us win more games. Hell,
I pay for him to get a painting h I'll
pay for him to get a man of cure. Right,
I'm trying to do his win game. I don't man,
I don't care about what somebody else do. They ain't
got nothing to do with me. Joe him painting his nail,
painting his toe nails. Yeah, he want to dye his
hair pink green blue, have a blonde streak. I don't
give a d You a football player, You the quarterback

(27:37):
of the team distributed football. You have more positive and
negative and we're good all that other stuff. Man, I'm
telling you, guys don't care. Guys want to win. So
what somebody do in their spare time.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
That's on them.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
But that mean that my hands, Well, I care. You're right, hey,
just be a good teammate. Let's come in here, pay
and work. Where are you from what you did? Okay?
That's why so hard to win the championship in football
because you got so many guys from so many different

(28:14):
backgrounds and you ask them to do one thing, come
together and make a fabulous dish. Mm hm, that's that's
what you're asking. But I think Caleb. I think Caleb
is gonna be doing really well. They rebaped his offensive line.
They signed Joe Thuney.

Speaker 4 (28:31):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
They got the guy from They got a guy from
the center from the Falcons. I think they got an
offensive lineman from the the Chargers. They've done a great job.
You know, Roman dudes. They Dj Moore, they got the
tight end, drafted him first in the first round from Michigan,
pairing with Cole Comet. They got a nice running game.
Think defensive, they're gonna be They're gonna be good. Officially,

(28:53):
they're gonna be much better. So with the offense being
much better, I think, you know, you take some of
the pressure off the defense. And the best what sometimes
the best way to the help of defense that's not
very good is to keep dance off the field. You're
still in the field for the extended period of time,
and we don't let them get on the field. The
bad things happen when they get on the field. But
I think Caleb Williams is going to be really, really

(29:15):
good this year. I think Ben.

Speaker 3 (29:17):
Johnson and say he's going to take a huge lead.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
He thinks so too hugely and.

Speaker 3 (29:24):
Gonna surprise a lot of people. Every year, it is
always the team, and to me, I think the Bears
might be that team. Every year. The same teams are
always in contention, always in intention. I understand the division.
They playing Packers, you know.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
I understand Packers Lions.

Speaker 3 (29:41):
I understand that. But I think they're going to be
that team that takes that leap this year that surprises everybody.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
I think the fingers ohoe, They're gonna have to in
order for them to make the playoffs. You got the Lions,
you got the Packers, you got the Vikes. The Lions
what lost what one game? Maybe two games? The Vikings
lost what but two games? Maybe three games. The Packers
were ten and seven, So you're looking to probably have
to go ten and seven eleven and.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
Six just to make the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
The Lions might take a step back, but from the
offensive play calling situation, but I think they're gonna be
just as good. Are they fifteen? Are they gonna be
fifteen to two? Maybe not? Maybe not, but It's hard
to see them them stepping off a cliff and all
of a sudden they win fifteen games and dropped down
to ten.

Speaker 1 (30:32):
I think they get.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
Some of those guys on the defensive side back healthy. Offensively,
they still gonna be able to put up points. Gives
a special army Ross Saint Brown, jameson will they got
in Brian that.

Speaker 3 (30:44):
Brian branch Brow mm hm, hey, he is the real deal.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
They got Joseph Joseph at like I said, they just
need to get some of those guys that was injured
last year. Get those guys back healthy, throwing guys back healthy,
coming back. Hutcherson I just read. I think he's he's
been cleared. He's a full goal now. I think the
big d tackle of McNeil, I think he got injured.

(31:14):
He should be able to go. One of the linebackers
got injured. He should be able to go. You know,
they had a lot of guys on injured reserve last year.
You know, we're not going to make an excuse to
give Washington credit. Washington winning there, took it to him.
They scored. They did a great job of taking the
ball away from Jerry Goff. The one thing that you know,
we know about golf. He has the ability to throw
you five touchdown, but he can throw five incessions too.

(31:36):
And you know he had he picked the worst time
to have probably his worst game, his second worst game
of sason. The worst game was what he had in Houston.
He threw five picks and they still won the game.
But this one, those turnovers, they didn't win the game.
And so yeah, but I definitely think Caleb william is
going to have to take a huge step forward. I
think he's gonna take a huge step forward. You talk

(31:58):
about a guy to have great improvisational skis arm slots
in which you can throw the ball from the three
quarters the side to over the top.

Speaker 1 (32:06):
He can get the ball like quick.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
And you know he's changed his motion because sometimes we
just want to hey, hey, just up and throw the football.

Speaker 1 (32:12):
It's like get a grip and let it grip.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
Oh. I'm anxious to see I want him to do
extremely well. I don't have a problem with what his dad.
Dad and dad try to put him in the best
situation possible. He didn't think Chicago was the best situation possible,
But I think Caleb realized that's they're a great situation.
He had a great offensive mind coming in, a great
head coach that's going to be working lockstep with him.

(32:39):
He can't he can't ask for anything more than that,
Old Joe, just an opportunity to get coached, coached really
really well, good really good players around him. Now, you
just go do your job. I believe that's what he's
gonna do. I believe, I absolutely believe that's what he's
going to do. You don't have the kind of production
that he had at USC and you saw the flashes.
You saw the flash just last year or what he

(33:01):
can be. As a matter of fact, on Thanksgiving, they
was down real bad. Now you know situation. There are
some miscommunication about do we spike the ball or they
let a lot of time run off and stuff like that,
and he end up getting sacked. But a lot of
stuff that you chalk up as a rookie. But I

(33:23):
don't think you see I don't think we see those
same mistakes this year. I'm excited to see what the
future holds for this young man because I think he
can be special. He's gonna have to be because look
at the quarterbacks in that division, look at the teams
in that division, and I'm sure Barry fans like man.
I want to make the playoff. I want a chance
to compete for a two Bowl, and I believe he

(33:47):
gives them the opportunity. We'll see what they're gonna be
overall as a team, especially when it comes to the
defensive side, because we see the improvement from a head
coach standpoint from the offensive line. What they've redone that
now is gonna come down to defensively. Are they gonna
be able to stop people? They got some good players
back there, So I'm anxious to see what the Bears

(34:08):
can do on this when it's gonna be a Bear's
gonna hat. I think they're gonna surprise some people, don't Joe.
I think they're gonna put some points on the boarder.
I think they're gonna really surprise some people. Oh yo,
check this out. Tyreek Hill released his rank of the
top ten quarterbacks this season. M hmm, it's on your screen.
He got two of number one, lamar Ja, Josh Allen three,

(34:30):
Dak Prescott four, Jered god five, Brought thirty six, Jalen
Hurt seven, Kirk Cousins eight, Jane Daniels nine, bow Knicks ten.

Speaker 3 (34:40):
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, Now, what
we need to talk about before you say anything, Tyree?
When did you make this list? Because I see Kirk
Cousins on there, and I'm not sure at what point
you made this list, but it couldn't have been just
now recently. It couldn't have been this fact.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
In disregard everything he said, because he got his quarterback
to one. You gotta quo, Joe. Let me ask your question.
If you got the number one quarterback in the NFL.
You trying to get up out of there?

Speaker 3 (35:10):
Oh, he ain't going nowhere?

Speaker 1 (35:12):
But do you say that? No? No, okay, right there?
He quarterback ain't number one.

Speaker 3 (35:19):
Now, let's let's understand and remember his frustrations about doing
cardio for three quarters and understand why he said that.
And they put a camera in front of in front
of his face before he could calm down. Remember when
we go to the rookie syposium with the first they
tell you, if you're angry, don't go to the media,
calm yourself down, take a deep breath. But no, soon

(35:39):
the game ends, camera right in his face. He's still upset.
What does he say? He answers emotionally and says things
he shouldn't say. Does he actually mean it at that time, probably,
But once he comes down and gets back in his
right state of mind, God damn it. I shouldn't have
said that, because.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
The mere fact that even if you at the mere fact,
I'll talk about our back even though when when when,
and we're gonna talk about this, even when when Trav
wasn't getting targets. You think Travis wanted to leave Patrick
Mahomes Nah, Now the matter of fact that he got
one omission on that. I don't see the guy. Now,

(36:16):
this guy in the last four years, five years, he
won three Super Bowl, three Super Bowl MVPs, and two MVPs.
And he ain't on this list. And you mean to
tell me you thought Kirk Cousins, you thought Bark Party,
you thought Dak Prescott, you thought Tua had a better
season and he had a bad season based on who
he is, and you think those guys had a better
season in him.

Speaker 3 (36:35):
Listen, and that's what I'm talking about. I guarantee you
this list isn't recent. I guarantee you it's not. I
guarantee you it's not.

Speaker 1 (36:44):
You know, we pulled it up from three years ago, right.

Speaker 3 (36:49):
But I'm just saying, unless this list was made through.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
Both Knicks, is on the list. Both Nicks just got
into the league this year. Yeah, but listen, that's just
got to league this year.

Speaker 3 (37:01):
He made this list for for this very specific reason
for us to be talking and engaging about his list
about saying, list yes, I like it, I like it.
I like listen. I like everybody. I like everybody on
now I don't I don't like. I don't like the
kirk Cousins. I don't like the kirk Cousins based on the.

Speaker 1 (37:17):
One you like. Dak Prescott, the guy missed ten games.

Speaker 2 (37:21):
Yeah, I like that.

Speaker 3 (37:22):
What you talking about it? I'm not worried about him.
I'm not talking about him missing the game.

Speaker 1 (37:25):
I like that.

Speaker 3 (37:25):
We talked about body of work.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
We talk about resume, not now your body.

Speaker 3 (37:30):
Hey, don't, don't listen, don't don't, just don't. Don't, just don't.

Speaker 2 (37:33):
Don't.

Speaker 3 (37:33):
Don't disrespect that like that, don't do that.

Speaker 1 (37:35):
He hollo he ain't got your guy. Hollo on. You've
been on me all year long about Joe Borrow.

Speaker 3 (37:42):
Yeah, you know you know, Reak ain't no Bengals fan.
He don't. He don't walking about.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
He ain't no fan of nobody. He should be a
fan of He should have he should have have a
tour and Snoop would have been number two. Wait who
the backup quarterback? Huntley? I mean you're like, oh, you've
been Oh you need to start like Joe.

Speaker 1 (38:04):
He ain't got Joe on there.

Speaker 3 (38:06):
Because that this is his own personal preference on who
he feels. We can't. We can't foot a man for
putting up his preference on his opinion on who his
top ten is. Now, if we talk about quarterbacks, our top.

Speaker 1 (38:17):
Ten, Joe his list.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
The moment he said two was better than Mahomes, we
should have disregard everything when it comes to quarterback to
come out of his mind.

Speaker 3 (38:25):
So anhing boyd after that?

Speaker 2 (38:27):
Yeah, yes, because that's so egregious. Oh Joe too, A
mom and dad won't say two are better than my
home boy.

Speaker 1 (38:37):
You won't find nobody in Miami.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
Put it like this here, if if your fan base
would trade your quarterback for Mahomes, Lamar Baltimore a trading
Josh Allen, but everybody else on this list, I guarantee
you they would trade their quarterback for Mahomes. You think
Dallads would take Mahomes over, Dak. You think Atlanta would

(39:01):
take him over? Kirk Cousins, Philly would take him, would
take Mahomes over, Jalen Hurts, Sam Fred would absolutely take
him over. Brock Purty, Detroit would absolutely take him.

Speaker 3 (39:15):
Oh, I got I got one for you. Who will
the commanders take him over? Jaydon Dames? Yeah, go ahead
and think about that.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
Yeah what I would? Yeah? Hell yeah, the only the
only two, well, only one, lamar because now, because here's
the thing, you would have to run the offense, see
the thing, Yes, Josh Dak, that's a drop back Jared.

Speaker 1 (39:42):
Golf drop back Jayen hs.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
He runs a very similar West Coast style system to
what they're running San Francisco.

Speaker 1 (39:50):
To what they running Atlanta.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
So there ain't gonna be a whole lot ain't gonna
be a whole lot of drop off. Can you imagine
my home Boy with Saw behind him and aj and Davontae.
You remember when he had Tyreek and Sammy wat kids? Right?

Speaker 3 (40:07):
Oh yeah, okay, okay.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
Can you imagine if he had Jaylen Waddle, Tyreek Hill,
John Newsmith and and h had.

Speaker 3 (40:23):
That's nasty.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
Yeah, uh, I don't see no, Ma Homes I don't
see no Joe Burrow, and you got some guys up
there week.

Speaker 1 (40:32):
We wish you well, oh Joe.

Speaker 2 (40:34):
Yeah. Peyton Manning says he believes that the team's fail
young quarterbacks by constantly changing coaches and system. It bothers
me that Bryce Young is on his third play call
it in two seasons. If you you draft the guy,
commit to a system. Learning a nofence is like learning
a new language. It's not fair.

Speaker 1 (40:53):
I agree, yeah, most definitely.

Speaker 3 (40:57):
But listen, you got to understand the owners are impatient, Yes,
extremely impatient, because they're thinking, every time we get a
player first round pick, we have to miraculously win right
away all of a sudden, and that's not the way
it works.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
Well.

Speaker 2 (41:12):
Daniels CJ. Stroud messing up though, because you see guy,
So everybody everybody thinks that that's it's supposed to happen
like that. But that's few and far between. Peyton didn't
go lway, didn't make it his rookie. They're like, you
go back and look at some of the great and

(41:32):
see their rookie season did not make the playoffs, and
they did not look good. Everybody's not gonna look like
a Jay and Daniels. Everybody's not gonna look like a CJ.
Stroud or Andrew Luck or an RG three or you know,
Baker played really well his break or Justin Herbert threw
thirty plus touchdowns.

Speaker 1 (41:50):
Everybody, every rookie is not gonna look like that.

Speaker 2 (41:52):
We've gotta stop thinking, on Joe, that everybody that comes
out is ready made. Sometimes it's like a kid's toy.
Some assembly is required. Everybody just wanted to over the
package and just get get the toy and just go
just get it in there.

Speaker 3 (42:07):
Yeah, it don't work, oh damn. And sometimes we are
spoiled by quarterback play that is extravagant in the TJ shroud. Yeah,
turn the franchise around one season, Jay Dames turned the
franchise around at the thirty thirty three abysmal years in

(42:29):
one season. Yes, quarterbacks like that come around every so often.

Speaker 2 (42:34):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (42:35):
And then also the other pieces to the puzzle got
to be there too. It already had a solid foundation.
All you needed was that center piece to smooth out
the concrete. That's why it looks the way it does.

Speaker 2 (42:48):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (42:49):
But but see here's the thing.

Speaker 2 (42:51):
When you come from the business world, O Joe, you
can change the CEO, and he might have an idea
that like boom, oh okay, hey you know what, Oh Joe,
you know what instead of the the iPod, what if
I do earbuds? What if I do what if I
do a tablet? What if I do iPad? So I

(43:14):
can do things. I can have a creator. But as
a quarterback, you keep changing, you keep changing the play callers.
He's learning an entirely.

Speaker 3 (43:21):
Different system every off season.

Speaker 1 (43:24):
How you expect that, man, Look at it. Look at
the continuity.

Speaker 2 (43:30):
Even even when Brady was losing coordinators, they was running
the exact same place. That was the same offense. That
was the same offense. Brent Faveley lost coordinators. That was
the same offense. That was the same.

Speaker 1 (43:48):
You got to have continuity. He needs to hear that.

Speaker 2 (43:52):
It might be a different voice, but he needs that
burbage to be the same. Yeah, you can put your
spin on it, but that was charge wife's offense. That
Bill O'Brien and Josh McDaniels, and then Josh McDaniels came
and ran and then for some reason coach Belichick put
two slappers in there that didn't know, you know, didn't

(44:13):
know anything about offensive football, and it messed it up.
But Peyton is absolutely right. But the biggest mistake is
that you judge.

Speaker 1 (44:22):
Man a man.

Speaker 2 (44:23):
You see how you see how his old lady treat him. Well,
I ain't got his old lady. I got you. So
I need to try to make this work with you.
And I can't judge my relationship of what they doing
over there. On Joe, I don't know what he doing.
He might be breaking off, hitting up with that Louisville slugger. Hey,

(44:44):
you know what I'm saying, don't Yoe. You got a
number two pencil and so you can't do the damage
that he do it. I'm just saying I agree with
Payton one thousand percent. You know, kind of had a
conversation with a about that, is that the everybody is
so quick because they won't instant aating results.

Speaker 3 (45:06):
Instant gratification, and it doesn't.

Speaker 2 (45:07):
It's the lottery, Oh Joe, Oh Joe, damn getting up
and go to work. Let me go by the lottery
ticket to hit it and hope.

Speaker 3 (45:15):
Yeah, it don't work like that.

Speaker 2 (45:17):
That lottery Microwave Society put everything in the microwave to
cook it in two minutes.

Speaker 3 (45:21):
Yeah, and if you do. If you do, any time
you have instant gratification is always short lived. Oh yeah,
short lived.

Speaker 2 (45:33):
Forty nine of them. Brock Party has agreed the terms
on a five year, two hundred and sixty five million
dollar contract extension, including a one hundred and eighty one
million in total guarantees highest paid quarterbacks and the NFL
based on a year to year basis. Dak Prescott is
sixty million, Joe Burrow, Josh Allen, Jordan loved and Trevor
Lawrence at fifty five million, two uh at fifty three

(45:56):
point one, Rock Party fifty three Jerry Off. That's a
good number.

Speaker 3 (46:01):
Right where they have right where they have him slaughtered,
is a good number for him.

Speaker 1 (46:06):
Yeah, I mean you go o, Joe. You got to
think about it.

Speaker 2 (46:08):
The man made two point nine million over the first
three years of his career. Now he'll get a check
every every week for two point nine million.

Speaker 3 (46:16):
Listen. He deserved it, well deserved, well deserved. I didn't
I like bread Purty. I just in view him at
the tier one type quarterback had a superior supporting cast
around him. You got Trim Williams, you had Debo, you
had Brandon Aiyuk you got Christian McCaffrey in the backfield.

(46:37):
How do you look once once some of those pieces
went away, it wasn't this pretty, which is pretty.

Speaker 1 (46:43):
Huh.

Speaker 2 (46:44):
It's all about, o joe. When in real estate, what
is about It's about location, location, location, and the NFL,
it's about position, position, position. He plays a premium puts
D no A A. He plays the premium position. So
it's like, man, no house, say, man, that house it

(47:05):
worth no forty million dollars. Maybe if it wasn't in
bel Air, you're right, but it's in bil Air. It's
absolutely worth forty million dollars. And if you want it,
that's what you're gonna have to pay to get it. Well,
a starting quarterback in the NFL that's gone to a
super Bowl, he's gone to two NFC championships, he's won,
that's what you're gonna have to pay to keep it.

(47:27):
It's really it's really, it's really that simple, o' joe.
You know all that man, he ain't worth that you
work with. Somebody that paid for it pays.

Speaker 3 (47:34):
He plays very well in that offense, and that Shanahan
autle yes, very very well.

Speaker 2 (47:41):
Look, actually he's probably worth more because he saved Kyle
Shanahan and John's job because they invested all that money
in trade in Trey Lance. They gave up all that
draft capital to get Trey Lance. They took this man
as mister relevant and the last pick of the seventh round. Now,
if you don't take him and you got Trey Lance
and you don't protray last, you're gone.

Speaker 1 (48:02):
Mm hmm, you're gone.

Speaker 2 (48:03):
Hey oo are you?

Speaker 3 (48:06):
Then?

Speaker 1 (48:07):
Terry is a c L y a z L last
year gone? Right? He got Kittles? Who else? Who else?

Speaker 2 (48:15):
He?

Speaker 1 (48:15):
Who else? He throwing to Brandon?

Speaker 2 (48:17):
Brandon and you could be back, Ricky Prince, am I
you gonna be back already after a c L.

Speaker 3 (48:27):
Yeah, a c L don't take that long. I don't
take that.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
Medicine different now, Joe medicine different now. He did it.

Speaker 1 (48:38):
He did it real early, so he'll definitely be back.

Speaker 2 (48:41):
So he did it like in September, So October, November, December, January, February, March, April, May, June, July.

Speaker 3 (48:48):
Yeah, we got we've got a few players coming back.
We got Brandon. Are you coming back off a c L?
Stefan did coming back off a c L, and it
seemed like they're recovering faster because obviously technology is a
lot more advanced, and then you know the rehabbing stuff
that they do is a lot more advanced. Yes, yes,
so players are coming back faster than ever, especially once
you get over that mental that mental block and understanding

(49:10):
that you could trust your knee and then be comfortable
cutting and moving. Oh man, that's I mean, that's that's
the hardest part right there.

Speaker 2 (49:19):
In just three seasons, he's passed for ninety five hundred
and eighteen yards, sixty four touchdowns, four playoff wins, NFC Championship,
and a Pro Bowl.

Speaker 1 (49:28):
So that's the that's the going rate.

Speaker 2 (49:31):
Uh. C J.

Speaker 1 (49:32):
Stroud is up next? Yeah, yeah, CJ Stroud up next.

Speaker 3 (49:37):
Listen he finish get the bag.

Speaker 2 (49:40):
To go down? Yeah yeah, and uh you know, pretty
soon you're gonna have Jane Daniels and Caleb Williams.

Speaker 1 (49:48):
They're gonna be coming down.

Speaker 4 (49:49):
They they finnie sat the mark, They finna have quarterback
out of control.

Speaker 3 (49:54):
They're gonna reset it.

Speaker 2 (49:55):
Yeah. Yeah, that's sixty bight. I mean uh uh, I mean,
but Josh Allon got this whole contract guaranteed, yo, No,
what he got We're tacked on.

Speaker 1 (50:12):
So it's like three third was that more than what
was Deshaun got? DeShawn got two thirty guaranteed.

Speaker 2 (50:20):
Yeah, they got the same agent. Now, DeShawn had David Mugletta.
I don't know who brock Pertty's agent is, uh, David Mugiletta.
And I think all of them are athletes first, right,
who's talk who's a rock Oh? Yeah, I've never heard

(50:44):
of them, Uh DeShawn David muga Letta is his agent?

Speaker 1 (50:53):
I think all of.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
Them out of the athletes first, I think Todd France
who had who has dak who?

Speaker 1 (51:01):
Who?

Speaker 2 (51:03):
I think look at look at Todd frast I think
he's at athletes first. Mm hmmm mmm m yeah.

Speaker 1 (51:19):
So but yeah, I I agree with you, Oh Joe.

Speaker 2 (51:23):
I think rock Perty was deserving, had earned this, given
what he had done his resume, U A Pro Bowl,
a Super Bowl, NFC.

Speaker 1 (51:31):
Championship game too.

Speaker 2 (51:33):
He had been going to tow NFC Championship game re
membery towards his elbow, bester eilbow up like the first
nap that.

Speaker 1 (51:39):
Was a playoff game. Why that's a playoff game?

Speaker 2 (51:41):
Yeah, and the championship game, the NFC Championship game, to
the Eagles. Show was and so yeah he's he was.
He was earned, he earned this, he earned this big
pay day. I like to see guys, and I like
to see team reward the players. You played well, and
we're gonna reward You don't do all that haggling. I
eight that they haggle all other positions except like that. Ever, Yeah,

(52:05):
I hate I hate that. Look. Look, man, hey, I
understand that he's important. But I've done my job. I'm
going to Crow Bowls. I've been two or three times
first team All Pro. And now you want to haggle me.

Speaker 3 (52:21):
They canna always do it.

Speaker 2 (52:23):
They always. I'm trying to think who so c J
Is gonna be up next year. As a matter of fact,
if I'm the Ravers, I go ahead and do something
with Lamar. What do you mean signing recent? Yeah you
gotta do it. Yeah, you gotta do it again, probably

(52:43):
some time in the middle. I bet they do something
in the middle of the season.

Speaker 1 (52:46):
Watch either the middle of season or after.

Speaker 3 (52:50):
The left shoot. He just signed that big one.

Speaker 2 (52:55):
He signed a five year two something to what he
had this third year into that say this is the
same year to it.

Speaker 3 (53:02):
But you got certain people that's getting ready to overlap him,
and they ain't got no business.

Speaker 2 (53:08):
Yeah no, well you see, we just named three six
eight quarterbacks and we ain't mentioned Lamar.

Speaker 1 (53:14):
Lamar's about I think Lamar is about fifty.

Speaker 3 (53:16):
They ain't got no business overlapping young bull.

Speaker 2 (53:22):
Yeah, damn excuse me.

Speaker 3 (53:28):
Hold on, I got his bathroom real quick.

Speaker 1 (53:29):
Hold on, well, you.

Speaker 2 (53:32):
Better get him before he's he messed righting with a
super Bowl because now you have to pay him seventy million. Lamar, Yeah,
he has two MVP's only the only guy on this
list that has the MVP is Josh Allen, So Lamar
has two.

Speaker 1 (53:47):
Dak doesn't have any. Joe doesn't have any.

Speaker 2 (53:49):
Joe has gone to the super Bowl, but he's the
only one he and Brock perty that's on this list
that's going to the super Bowl. None of the other
guys have been played in the championship game. Yeah, that's
gonna be just separated for Lamar. If he can get one,
if he can win one, it's over, man, it's definitely over.
You can do that.

Speaker 4 (54:07):
When they got the back then breakstruck up.

Speaker 2 (54:11):
Yeah, oh for sure. But they definitely have the team.
You know, they resigned, they resigned. They didn't resigned, and
they extended him. King Henry gave him twenty five million,
two year extension. Twenty five million. They extended him. I
like Rashad Bateman. I like the receiver corps they got.
They brought Andrews back. They brought Lively back, likely as

(54:32):
they are likely, they brought him back. Look, the defense
is gonna be solid again. Offensive line is intact, Lamar
is gonna be Lamar. So you know they're gonna be consistently,
They're gonna be pretty good. They're gonna be there. Yep,
they just got You know, the hardest thing is to
break it through that wall the first time. Once you
break through, then all of a sudden it's just like

(54:54):
it happens. But it's the hardest thing. You see, Uh,
Josh Allen and haven't broken through yet because similarly, they
have to go against my home boy. Only a handful
of people have been able to stand him down in
the in the playoff game. Uh, and that's been Joe
Burrow did it, and Tom Brady did it. Uh Brady

(55:17):
beat him in the Super Bowl once and uh uh
Jalen Hurts just got it. But it's tough. It's tough
getting through that first time.

Speaker 4 (55:29):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 3 (55:35):
Mm hm hm
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