Brutal Truth: Sarkisian corrected, Heisman Hype, Penn State Panics

College Football Apostles podcast with George Wrighster dives into the week’s biggest college football stories across the SEC, Big Ten, AP Top 25, and CFP conversation—coaching carousel drama at Penn State and the Florida Gators, James Franklin’s College GameDay interview, Billy Napier’s firing, and why some bluebloods may find the hiring pool thinner than fans think. George and Ralph Amsden tackle AD vote-of-confidence statements at Wisconsin, Auburn, and Florida State, then shift to on-field star power: can Diego Pavia make a real Heisman push if Alabama and Ty Simpson keep stacking wins?

They also hit viral moments and fan culture: Sacramento State’s president poking the “Montana Pandas,” Texas Tech’s tortilla-throwing ban, field-storming etiquette after BYU–Utah, and a tense exchange between Coastal Carolina players and App State fans. Plus, a locker-room leadership conversation after Texas Longhorns edge rusher Colin Simmons “corrects” Steve Sarkisian at the podium—team unity or media misstep? To cap it off, George ranks his six most important games of the weekend and breaks down Big 12 pressure points for Utah, Arizona State, Baylor, Cincinnati, BYU, and Iowa State, with a Group-of-6 CFP check-in featuring Memphis vs USF. If you want candid, data-grounded analysis with recruiting and administrative context—not just vibes—tap in, subscribe, and drop your Top 25 and hire shortlists in the comments.

 

Chapters:

00:00 Intro

01:19 James Franklin’s College GameDay interview

09:30 Why the “level-up” hiring pool is thinner than fans think

22:15 Florida fires Billy Napier—where should the Gators turn?

34:01 Colorado State fires Jay Norvell—how good is that G6 job?

40:20 AD statements at Wisconsin & Florida State; Auburn silence

47:00 Heisman talk: Can Vanderbilt’s Diego Pavia outrun Ty Simpson?

51:35 “Is Ralph a QB guru?” segment

56:04 With Memphis & UNLV losing, George’s new G6 CFP favorite

57:00 Sacramento State vs Montana “Pandas” feud

1:02:56 Texas Tech tortilla ban—tradition vs fines

1:06:05 Are we nearing a player–fan flashpoint?

1:08:20 Texas LB Colin Simmons “corrects” Steve Sarkisian

1:13:20 George’s six most important games this weekend

1:15:05 Ralph on a pivotal weekend for Big 12 relevance

 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
College Football Apostles is hit. I'm your boy, George Reister,
former NFL player, college football player in college football analyst
for c W, my main man Ralph Amden here as
well college football samant, regular rain man and man that
is going to be bringing you some stories about things
in the world pretty soon as well, like the stuff

(00:23):
down in the weeds that you're like, how did you
find this sort of thing out? But we got a
lot to talk about today, more coaches getting fired, people
fa fo in, weird stories that Ralph finds for us
to talk about as well. But we always start actually first,
make sure that you like, subscribe, get notifications, tell a

(00:44):
friend about the show. But we're gonna start where we
always start at. Usually most of the time is with
our biggest takeaways from last week, Ralph Europe.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
I just the fact that there's nothing like college football
we had. I was up bright and early for me
because usually I'm up till four or five in the
morning on Fridays doing like a high school football roundup.
I get up to and I specifically get up to
see the James Franklin interview on College Game Day.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
Oh my god, we'd have to talk about that is
that is that on the list of day because I
need to talk about I.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
Figured you were going to pi back off it. I
figure you're gonna piggyback off it right out the gate.
But I'm sitting there and I'm watching James Franklin and
Nick Saban have this super compelling conversation. I mean, and
to me, to the people who love college football, this
is like this is like you know, r Kelly sitting
down with Gail King, or like, you know, like any

(01:46):
of these interview moments when when Barbara Walters has somebody
you know that's big in the news or whatever, you know,
we're I'm sitting there and I'm completely captivated by the
fact that James Franklin just got fired and he's sitting
down in Athens on the college game day set saying
that he's going to go win a national championship somewhere else.
And well, that's what I'm gon get to. It's like

(02:14):
it's emotional but not really not real emotions. And I
know you're going to talk about that, but like, it's emotional,
but it's not necessarily real emotions. And then the most
compelling man on TV who's great at everything he does,
Nick Saban takes a minute to set James Franklin up
to say, you know, was this fair? And James Franklin like, well,
that's not for me to say, and and Nick Saban's like, well,

(02:34):
I'll tell you it was unfair. And you know, they
just have this incredible moment. Whether you believe you know
it was a good moment, bad moment, disingenuous or whatever,
it was incredible. It was captivating. And you look past
James Franklin's face, like the seriousness and the sternness and
the sullenness and everything from that in the in the
past week is all just on his face, whether he's

(02:57):
letting it show actively or not. And in the back
is just this giant sign that says Jackson fart Yeah,
and they're holding it up right next to his face.
That was supposed to be taking this man seriously, and
this is the giant word fart is next to his face.
For the entirety of this interview, I was just I

(03:20):
was like soaked in gratitude with how much I love
this ridiculous, ridiculous sport. It's not the only there was
a million moments like that last week, but that was
the really big one.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
So let me start by saying, I do believe James
Franklin should be a head coach somewhere next year at
a big time university. I think he's a he's a like.
He's proven himself that he's a winner, So let me

(03:51):
get that out of the way. And I do believe
that he is a consistent person. I had three main
takeaways from James Franklin on game day. Number one, he
will be a head coach in twenty twenty six, and
he probably has a decent idea what are his options,

(04:18):
and that this was his moment to come up there
and show everybody like, hey, I'm strong, I am here,
I am James Franklin. I should be the leader of
your program. Number two, getting fired may have been the
best thing that gets him out of his conservative ways,

(04:40):
because he said, we got fired. We gotta, you know, regroup,
figure out what was going on because he's been awful
at hiring offensive coordinators. He is a defensive and I'm
not talking about defense in football. He's a defensive oriented person.
They Penn State always plays big games on defense, like

(05:01):
that they are trying to keep the game close and
hope to see what happens at the at the end.
That's why you never see outlier results in their favor
in big games where they knock somebody's doors off, because
they're just trying to just you know, just just just
not make a mistake, keep things closed and then hopefully,
you know, get get some things going and then just

(05:23):
lean and win the conservative way. That's not gonna work.
So that was my second takeaway. Third thing is, and
this is not an indictment on his personality, on his
on you know, his whether he's a genuine person or anything,
but he sounds like a politician because everything sounds rehearsed.

(05:46):
It sounds like a canned answer. Like Ralph, he always
says what the optimal thing to say in that situation is,
Like he never is like, hey man, we're not good
enough right now. We gotta get it done. We gotta
pick this, this and this up or the or the Uh,

(06:08):
it's not it's not gonna happen, so quit asking, you
know what I mean? Like, he's not he never says
the thing that's not buttoned up and that it's almost
like Ralph, if you met a person, how long have
you and Aaron been married?

Speaker 2 (06:27):
Twenty years? In May.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
Okay, I've been married over a decade, and so if
you had been If you meet somebody and they say,
we've been married for twenty years and we've never had
an argument or we've never had a big fight, what
are you immediately.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
Thinking you're not married.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
Yeah, either you're not married, or you're lying, or you
guys are playing pretend, and that there's really some deep
rooted stuff that's gonna come up at some point in
time and they're gonna be like, I've been feeling.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
This rich one of years, Bro, I had to fight
today about whether or not we were fighting.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
Yeah, yeah, that that is. And you can be happily
married and still have these arguments. So it's like he
never says this thing. That is, he never says anything.
You don't have to be controversial, but he never even
says anything that gets taken out of context, Like how
do you never say anything and you're talking three days

(07:29):
a week as a head coach and nothing ever gets
taken out of context. It is like he rehearses every
single answer. It is like a AI calculator in his brain. Oh,
what is the optimal thing to say right right now?
And that bugs me. It scares me, honestly.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
So you're saying, is like he is like AI to
where like yeah, like it looks real, but it could
never like make a fire, you know, like there's there's
this final state. I don't know, man, I've seen some
Sora videos this week. They have me pretty scared about
the future of our species because I'm like the audio timeline.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
That is the that is the issue that may be
why he can't win the Big Game is because he
can't make a fire.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
Yeah, well he's I don't know, man, but I just
all I know is uh. It was very very funny
to see him be sincere or insincere in the best
optimal way as you're as you're saying, and then to
see those signs behind his head. I also got a
pretty big laugh this weekend out of the game on
Peacock with I think Jason Garrett with his play by

(08:40):
play partner standing up against the and it's supposed to
say big ten Saturday, the covering up the essay and
and the a y on the ends. So it just
big turd.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
Yes, Oh I love that. At first, I wonder at
what point in time, I wonder if somebody in the
truck was like, Yo, do you realize what this says?
And it's probably like a lower level stafford that's like,
hey up, I know we can't move them now, but

(09:14):
you know somebody in the truck is over there, and
it's somebody and it's somebody over in the corner.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
Like hey, oh man, I love this sport.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
Yes, dude. This season is making me fall in love
with college football all over again. So my biggest takeaway
for this last week was a lot of these head
coaching search teams, they are getting ready to FAFO Penn
State Florida. If Florida doesn't get Lane Kiffin, they're going

(09:53):
to figure out that their brand is not as big
as they think it is or as untouchable as they
it is because and it's not that they're not a
blue blood none of this stuff. It's just that times
have changed, buddy. And some of the best I made
assured about it that some of the best coaching guys
available are at their alma mater, and people, for some

(10:17):
reason believe that Clark Lee, who's out here talking greasy
about Vanderbilt football and what they're building in all of
this stuff and how they're gonna become a power he
played there is gonna walk out the door and go
to Penn State. Ralph, No, he's not. I ain't talked
to Clark Lee, I ain't talk to nobody Vanderbilt. But

(10:38):
I'm gonna tell you that people don't realize what it's like.
Like you can leave San Jose State and take the
USC head coaching job, and nobody at San Jose State
is gonna be like, well he turned his back on us.
Nobody if you leave Vanderbilt to go to Penn State,
you leave Vanderbilt to go to Florida, you might have

(11:00):
will cancel your alumni card because the next time you
come there, you will be groveling back.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
Brent Key at Georgia Tech, things are going swimmingly there
for him as well. You think he's gonna leave there
and walk over to Florida. I don't believe so he.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
I think he loves that university. Yes, And as much
as people talk about some of these other guys, I
think Brent Key he was a.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
My men don't even hop in the portal very much.
You think because they're stable people, they don't just jump
around like that. They are loyal. That's why Mario Cristobaul
left Oregon to go to Miami because he's loyal to Miami.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
And then Jeff Brom, you think he's leaving Louisville. He
left PURDUEA oh, that's one, Ralph. Jeff Brom left Purdue
to go to Louisville.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
Working out, Yeah, it is.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
And you think he's gonna leave his alma mater, who
who who? He's got sway with the with the the
people at the school. He's a son of the school.
He's gonna get so much more leeway than other coaches are.
And you're gonna leave and take the Florida, the Penn State,
the UCLA, Virginia Tech, the Oklahoma State, the UA B,

(12:22):
the any of these other Auburn if it comes open.
The answer is no.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
And they got money there too, like they'll figure out
a way to keep him.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
And the question is that everybody keeps talking about, we
are in this mister steal your coach economy, this Tray
Song's coach economy, where let's go steal Dan Lanning, let's
go steal Marcus Smith, Let's go steal Jeff browm let's
go steal this guy. Ralph. I was trying to think

(12:55):
of how many times that that has ever worked. I
want you guys get hop into comments. Tell us when
have you outside of Jeff Bram that I just mentioned
where he went from Purdue to Louisville. I mean, and
that version of working out is you know, it's subjective
a little bit.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
Yeah, we're still they don't have an ACC championship, they
don't have a College Football playoffics like so, even even
when we're talking about success like he not there yet,
you know.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
So outside of Nick Saban leaving Michigan State to go
to LSU, I want you all to come up of
examples where where a big time program, big name program
stole a coach, not from a group of six, because
if you if some are all leaves Tulane and goes
to Auburn, nobody had to Tulane's gonna be able to

(13:48):
be mad at him. Yeah, But find me a time
where somebody left a power for program went to another
power for a program and they had the success everybody
was looking for. Is that happening with Lincoln Riley from
Oklahoma to USC? No? Is it happening for I mean, hell,

(14:13):
would you even say that it's happening for Mario Cristoball
at Miami leaving Oregon.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
No, not yet, because the standard is ACC champion or
College Football Playoff participant. In my mind, if you go
down the line of national champions, it really doesn't exist
out the criteria that you're describing. Where you go and
you hire away someone else's power for coach because they
were having success. Now there is an example of hiring

(14:42):
away a power for a coach who was a good
fit but he wasn't having success, and that's gene Chiswick
coming off a two to ten season at Iowa State.
Auburn hired him. Imagine Auburn doing that now, well, I mean,
I guess they hired Hugh Freeze but he was having
success at at Liberty, but hiring some buddy for fit
right instead of success elsewhere. Gene Chiswick got a national championship. Obviously,

(15:07):
you know Cam helped that effort. But imagine Auburn trying
to hire a two and ten power flove coach. Now,
imagine what the fans wouldn't They wouldn't have it like
a hiring.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
How State fans are responding to potentially Fran Brown being there,
Oh no, because they're too busy trying to win the
press conference, go win football games. And they're like, oh,
let's get Marcus Freeman. Let's throw twenty million dollars at him.
It may not fit at your university, Like stop trying
to and and Ralph, They're like, let's steal Dan Landing,

(15:44):
Let's steal Marcus Freeman. Ralph, I got a question, where
was Marcus Freeman prior to being Notre Dame's head coach?
Was he a fickle Yes?

Speaker 2 (15:56):
Was he a Cincinnati guy?

Speaker 1 (15:57):
Okay, yes, but he was also noted as defensive court
and then he was, But he was a Cincinnati prior
prior to that? Where was Dan Lanning before he got
Oregon's head coaching job, Georgia pc Oh, So maybe the
guys that you want to steal are on somebody's coaching

(16:18):
staff right now. Go find them. It's a lower cost proposition,
Like the downside is way lower because you can hire
them on like a five year, twenty five million dollar job,
and if it don't work out, you're not paying You're
you're paying like seven million dollars worth of buyout money,
like UCLA is to John Foster versus fifty five million

(16:41):
dollars that's true.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
I mean you got rhtt Lashley got the SMU job
off of being Miami's offensive coordinator. They were a college
football playoff team last year. You had Kenny Dillingham go
take Arizona State of College Football playoff off of being
organ offensive coordinator. You have a Virginia making a run

(17:05):
this year off of hiring away Clemson's OC and then
trusting the process over time hiring. So the interesting thing
about lower level staffers is what they do is sit
around all day talk thinking about what they would do
different if they were in charge.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
That's a really important thing to remember is that lower
level staffers are the ones daydreaming about what they would
do if they would have their opportunity. You hire away
somebody's head coach, they're gonna say, like, well, it's my
way or the highway, because my way is what got
me here.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
Yep. And the lower level staffers are the ones that are,
like you said, Ralph, daydreaming. They're sitting there thinking, oh,
I like what Kirby Smart does in this area. I
like what Nick Saban was doing in this area. And
remember Dan Lanning was under Saban and k so he's
like I like these things from Kirby, I like these

(18:03):
things from here, I like these things from Todd Graham,
I like these things from this coach. And then I'm
gonna do all of these things in one package. So
they are the innovators. They are the ones that are
the future. People talking the Penn statement, Oh well, listen,

(18:24):
if we can't land Marcus Freeman or this guy, we
gotta get urban Meyer out of retirement. Urban Meyer has
not coached in this era of college football. Do we
believe that he is now out of the ways that
because he knows what he did to have success at Florida,
you can't do that in college football now. He tried

(18:45):
to do it in the NFL, didn't work then, And
those are professionals. So so you think he's gonna be
able to come in college and do the same things
he did at Florida in terms of the way he
treated the players, the the harsh environment, incident, and the
stress on the players. And do you think that that's
gonna work? Probably not.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
And when you hire from when you hire from a
lower level, which is something we talked about where people
have had success when you hire head coaches from a
lower level, they dream too. Yep, they they dream about like, man,
look at what we're doing now, imagine what we could
do with more resources.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
It's a fact.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
So I don't know. I think you stumbled onto something
here and I think that you know, college presidents and
college athletic directors and booster clubs, they're not going to
listen to us because they are like the game stop
traders who got in when the stock was already up
over one hundred. These are hot stock traders. These are
the guys that you can trick in your fantasy football

(19:48):
league to taking Cam Scataboo after he scores three touchdowns
and trade new Patrick mahomes for him. Right. These are
the people who buy high and sell low. And that's
a problem. When when the people who are influential in
college football don't aren't visionaries, then that's that's an issue.
And that's why, like, I respect people who try something different,

(20:11):
and when it's ridiculous and it blows up in their face,
then yeah, people can point and say, you know, that
never would have worked out in a million years. That's
probably we got a huge I told you so crowd
getting ready for when University of North Carolina has to
make a change. But you know when when you people
who are closer to the ground are the future of

(20:33):
college football and so hiring coordinators looking at some special
teams coaches out there, good leaders, people who people respect,
who have good relationships with with these high school coaches
in their recruiting area, who understand the portal because they're
the bulk of their time in coaching has been within,
you know, making use of that portal. Those are those

(20:55):
should really be the criteria. I'd see all these fans
calling to hire these big time head coaches away from
their program. That doesn't if they don't understand the recruiting
era area, if they don't have relationships with the local coaches,
if they don't understand how to navigate your unique booster scene.
If you know, then then it might not work out.

(21:17):
And a lot of these teams also, you can get
lucky bringing somebody in who isn't really part of your culture.
I think Texas did that. I don't think Steve Sarkisian
had ever even been to Auten took that job. I
think it worked out for Ole Miss, you know, but
these are they were also risks in their own way,
you know, So I don't know I think that you

(21:37):
really stumbled onto something here. And I would hope that
that the fact that we're going to have like fifteen
job openings, we'd at least see some of these. Even
the big time schools that think that they're that, you know,
they need to hire the hot name, maybe take a
risk on taking an OC or a DC somewhere that
has just shown that they're good at handling what they

(21:59):
handle and a lot of people in their life can
vouch for them as leaders, and then you hope they
grow into what you need them to be.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
One hundred. All right, let's get to the story lines
this week. Where are we starting At Ralph.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
They finally listen to you, George, Florida, even after a
win over Mississippi State, they eked it out. They let
Billy Napier go, So we got a coaching change in Gainesville.
Billy Napier, I think losing record in his time there
was it like twenty three and twenty four or something
like that, twenty twenty four, I'm not sure. Yeah, but

(22:36):
good dude, I think you've got to be a little
bit greasy to handle success in the swamp. Also, only
so many people can have success in this shifting landscape
of college football. They really got to get that figured
out what it is they're looking for. I think billiy
Napier lands on his feet again. Good Man really enjoyed

(22:56):
having him as an offensive coordinator Arizona State when I
had the opper to cover that team. I thought he
did a great job at Louisiana, and I think he'll
be fine. He's a hard guy to shed a tear
for because you know, he's he's probably gonna be okay, yes.

Speaker 1 (23:11):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's he's the kind of guy that
that'll that'll get uh, that'll that that'll get sportswashed after
a year, and then he'll he'll he'll resurface unless he
wants to take another head coaching job now, but he
may want to take a year to like decompress and
and then mid season hop On is like an analyst somewhere,

(23:36):
you know, because Nick Saban no longer has his soup
kitchen for coaches to like to like come and rehab,
so somebody else has to take up that mantal. Maybe
it'll be Kirby, but he's not quite old enough to
have a soup kitchen for other coaches. So you know,
I don't know who can take that mantle because Saban

(23:56):
he was an expert at that. You go work for
Saban for a year or two and then all of
a sudden, you got genius juice on you.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
Yeah, And i mean like he's just been grinding for
such a long time, you know his I think like
eight years ago his dad passed away from als And
it's like, you just if you get this opportunity, you
got a bunch of money in the bank. Sometimes it
helps to reset and if you can, if you can
go around to different programs the way that Dan Mullen did,

(24:30):
you can sit with coaches all over the country and
you can kind of formulate what it is you want
to do next. I think you should do that. I
don't think a year off would be what would be
terrible for Billy Napier. And I'm really really fascinated to
see what he does next. I'm definitely gonna be rooting
for him. Who do you think, if anyone out there,
who do you think could go into Florida and make

(24:52):
Florida football exciting again? Because that's really the issue is
that he's an offensive guy and they were not offensively fluid. It.
Oh so.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
I'm going to sound a little hypocritical right now, because
first thing is because I think Florida is a unique situation.
Is I do believe that Lane Kiffin can go there
and have success. But I do believe that there's a
ceiling on Lane Kiffen. So if you want Lane Kiffin,

(25:24):
oh miss results, that's what you're gonna get. I don't
think you're gonna get you know, undefeated seasons with him,
and I just don't. That's just not where I see
Lane Kiffin. I think that he can make a playoff
appearance here and there, don't think that. I think that
stuff like him posting the the pilates instructors on game day,

(25:50):
he knew what he was doing, like he was just
joking around and having a good time and having fun.
Mind you, there's nothing wrong with that, but also it's
just a it ain't necessarily what you're looking for. If that,
If that makes sense, like championship coaches don't typically do
things like that, that's all that. That's all I'm saying

(26:11):
that there's always gonna be you know, a little meat
on the bone left with Lane. I think I think
you're gonna get ten wins a season, probably well in
between nine and eleven wins a season and you know,
and it'll be good. But then they're gonna be upset
because he hadn't won a national championship. And but but
I do believe that he raises the floora there. But

(26:33):
if he decides, and he's also he feels like a
coastal guy to me. But his family is finally all
back back together after he ripped that apart. So he
might be happy in Oxford. But if he but if
they don't get him at Florida, I think will Stein
is a dude who would work great at Florida, even

(26:54):
though he's kind of a Texas mid Midwest guy. I
would like him there, like you might be able to
get some some good action out of Georgia's defensive coordinator
again Alabama's wide wide receiver coach. It used to be
at Washington. But I questioned a little bit because he

(27:15):
hasn't really been a part of any like top tier defenses,
and I think that that's important. Yeah, so I do
think that there are some options, but I do think
for Florida lane Kip it might be the best option,
even though that that's hypocritical, too cool to what I
said earlier, I got.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
A name for you, who Brian Kelly.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
Okay, tell me, tell me why Ralph please. I'm not
saying that that's it, just like I was just so
overwhelmed by the by the thought of that that I
couldn't even like fully, I need to understand what you mean.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
Is he a good coach, Yes, it's proven right, he's
a good coach yep. Is he an asshole? Yes, that's
what they need. The only the only hiccup I'd have

(28:20):
with with that, And like Florida fans just have to
accept that that's who you are. Like you need, you
need a villain in charge. Urban Meyer might have been
like evangelical, said all the right things on the surface, but.

Speaker 1 (28:37):
I'm gonna let you finish that that thought. I got
another name, Okay, all.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
Right, I'm just saying, like you, if you accept we're
the villains, we're gonna bring in a guy who is
gonna have us at a floor eight wins. That's gonna
be the floor. And then you know, if he can
get the right staff around him and we can move
fast and break things and just be the past, be

(29:01):
the jerk in the sec because I think at LSU
it's like there's some expectation that you fit the culture
there and he doesn't. And they're already talking about getting
rid of him. And it's not like they might want
to get rid of him if they finished ten and two.
So you get a fresh start. You know, he's driven,

(29:24):
you know he wants to prove people wrong. You know
he's pissed off. And you don't have to be some
fake version of yourself to be an old white man
in Florida. That's what Florida is. Yeah, it's old white
man heaven. And so I don't know. I think that
if you want somebody who is going to keep you

(29:44):
from having seven and six seasons you never see seven
and six again, then Brian Kelly would be a guy
to bring in. But it's not palatable. It's not supposed
to it's supposed to feel gross. That's Florida. You wanted

(30:04):
to feel swampy.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
It does feel swampy. Okay, So how about Brian Hartline.

Speaker 2 (30:20):
That could be really good, Okay, Or it could be
really good. I think there'd be a level of paranoia
that they're going to lose.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
Him, okay, Or I got another one for you. Bryant Haynes.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
Okay, explain to me why.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
Indiana defensive coordinator.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
He's been He's been good, He's been real good.

Speaker 1 (30:48):
Yes, he's a good leader, he's a good recruiter. And
then also Kurt sits like Netty can't do it without him.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
You're trying to take out in the football his his
experience in the South is relegated to the two years
that he was on the north side of North Carolina.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
And hey, hey, so m hm, I'm just telling you
maybe Al Golden.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
Al Golden, former Miami coach Al Golden.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
Yeah, he's got he's got some Marcus Freeman juice on him.
That sounds weird.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
That pause, terrible rephrase.

Speaker 1 (31:41):
Rewind he's got Marcus Freeman or on him.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
There we go sort of.

Speaker 1 (31:50):
You could probably give a Pete Kowski he's got to
be up there.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
Do you think he wants to be a head coach?
Could I get I get this all the time. Why
is he not already a head coach?

Speaker 1 (32:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (32:05):
Probably because he is so good at his job.

Speaker 1 (32:08):
Yes, maybe Tim Tim Banks at Tennessee.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
Yeah, he's been good, he's been good. They have personnel
issues this year. They graduated. I think a little bit
too much and I think people are starting to try
to figure him out. But you know, are you hiring
somebody to run that side of the ball as well?

Speaker 1 (32:27):
No, you're to one the money to coach the coaches
like that. You need a leader of men, that's what
you need who has competency on one side of the ball.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
Lincoln Riley. I'm gonna throw his name out for every
single opening, Dude.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
I keep hearing names from people throwing stuff out to me. Uh,
Cliff Kingsbury, what, No, what are we doing? No?

Speaker 2 (33:01):
I think he he's got a Peter principle because I
don't think he's a I don't think he's a leader
of man. I think he's a very very good coach.
I think he's a good coach of a few men.
But I don't think in my in my time rooting
for the Arizona Cardinals, I don't think he's the type

(33:22):
of guy that could hold hold a star player accountable.
I really don't.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
Or I got one more option for you, San Diego
State's head.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
Coach, Ah, yeah, yeah, Sean Lewis. Yes, they're starting to
have some success.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
Mm hm mm hmmm, just saying bro it, it's some
of these things are so easy to me because people
but but people want to win the press conference, all right?

Speaker 2 (33:59):
So that all right? Yep? So next up on a
smaller scale, I think one of his former co workers
at Arizona State, Jane Rvell, also fired by Colorado State.
This is one of the better jobs. Like they have
money in Fort Collins, but they want you to they
want you to do something with it right now. And

(34:21):
so you know, this isn't like throw around money. This
is like, hey, we gathered everything we got, We're gonna
give it to you. Please get us a return. Colorado
State I think could be a very very good stepping
stone job. I wonder because you mentioned will Stein for
a job, Like you know, do you think somebody who

(34:44):
is a big ten level offensive a defensive coordinator holds
out for the biggest job or do you think they
look at Kurt Signetti and they realize, like, oh, we
can go down to a lower level, have a lot
more control over our situation and maybe prove this out
over time. Like do you think Kurt Signetti set a

(35:04):
new model for some of these really high named coordinators
to go because I mean, you've had it happen before,
and I think there is higher profile than they were
a few years ago. But you had Abolos take a
job and you had Marcus Arroyo take a job and
it didn't work out for either one. I'm just curious,
would do you think a guy like will Steiny.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
Like what I up first and then went to James Madison.
I think that you're going that that you have to
get some buzz surrounding your name, which is which is unfortunate,
but you but you do like you got to be
in the know and in the right circles, have the
right agent now to get a job, and that kind

(35:46):
of sucks. So I do believe that going to a
Colorado State is a smart move for a lot of uh,
you know, for a lot of people, because you're gonna
get a chance to learn on the job but also
get made your experience. And Colorado State's a place that
can be like Memphis. Think about Memphis' last couple runs

(36:09):
that coaches. You have Brent Pride, right, Mike Norvel, no yeah, yea.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
Yeah, yeah, Mike and Ryan Silverfield.

Speaker 1 (36:20):
Because they're both were Virginia Tech. Yeah, justin Flinte. Mike Novel,
now Ryan sil Silverfield, Like they're like Memphis is a
program that hasn't dropped off despite changing.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
Head coaches is the Boise State of the South.

Speaker 1 (36:34):
Yes, same thing with Boise State, Like they've been able
to maintain their relevance and everything else despite coaching changes.
Colorado State can do the exact same thing. It can
be a place where you know that you get a
coach and you know he's gonna bounce after a while,
but he'll leave the program in tip top shape and

(36:56):
the next guy will be able to come in and
do the exact same thing. Yeah. I mean, I just
at least Jay Norvel won't have to talk about Dion
any anymore. He'll probably be happy about that.

Speaker 2 (37:09):
I gotta Colorado State name for you, uh to say,
to save him from himself and sticking around too long
to where he's no longer the hero. Jerry new heisl.

Speaker 1 (37:24):
No, no, no, he's staying put at u c l
A bro. He's staying put.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
But not not in a position of influence right, Like,
I really worry if he's gonna.

Speaker 1 (37:35):
Stay it or no he will. I believe that if
they win one more game, well sorry, if they win
two out of the next five, Tim Skipper's getting a
head coaching job. And it is no question who his
opfensive coordinator is going to be.

Speaker 2 (37:50):
Oh, you think they'll give Skipper the gig at.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
Yeah, they they have five more games. They play Indiana, Nebraska, Ohio, State,
Washington and then USC.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
I want Tim Skipper to I want Tim Skipper to
leave U c l A and go into business for
himself as a full time interim head coach. That's what
I want. I want him to have like a group
of guys that that are like the cast of Armageddon,
like when you need somebody to plan a nuke on

(38:36):
a on a on a media. He's got a group
of guys that he's ready to call, like they're just
in a warehouse somewhere. One guy's like off playing poker professionally,
and he calls, gets the whole gang together. And then
if somebody fires their coach, he's got to show it.

Speaker 1 (38:55):
Like hey, hey, yo, hey yo, we need another guy. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:59):
That's if I want you. I want Tim Skipper to
be that. Like I want him to just like be
ready to go be the interim coach.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
And when he shows up at his most important guy's like, yo,
I'm out of the game. I don't want to do it.
He yo, hey yo, I mean I mean what about Diane?
Wait that Diane's gonna be beat her? I mean no, no,
you know you do it if you don't want want
want to? Hey man, I try and then walking way

(39:28):
wait wait wait wait dude, when did you say that?

Speaker 2 (39:32):
What did you say the bag was?

Speaker 1 (39:33):
Again? Yeah? Exactly, yeah, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
Wouldn't that be incredible? Like just Tim Skippers knock around us?

Speaker 1 (39:41):
Which casinos did you say to? Those are Terry Bennedict's casinos?
I do?

Speaker 2 (39:48):
I want that for Tim Skipper. I want him to
just have like a crew that he gets together every
single year and then all of a sudden, it's like
A and M fires their coach three games into the
season and Tim Skipper comes in there. He's able to
rally the troops and like salvage it, and then he
just fades off into the sunset. You don't see him
for another eighteen months. Is got to be huge. Yeah,

(40:12):
what like you want him to be, like to get
a call from ad and then to be like, all right,
what's the score?

Speaker 1 (40:24):
I like it? I like it. I'm not mad at that.

Speaker 2 (40:27):
All right, So some coaches got fired this week. Some
coaches got athletic directors statements, including Luke Fickle at Wisconsin
and Mike Norfell at Florida State. Hugh Freeze at Auburn
actually came out and asked for a statement please, he said, really,
it'd be real cool if my ID also had something
to say. Clearly, all three of these coaches are as

(40:48):
much on the chopping block as you can possibly be.
What's your take on on on these AD statements, George?
Why are these teams waiting?

Speaker 1 (40:57):
I believe that Wisconsin's AD actually meet. He's the one
who means it, between him and Norvel. If Norvel loses
to wake Forest this this this week, they are gonna
start counting money, like pulling money from from a cushions

(41:17):
because fifty five million dollars plus and now now we
don't know the full buyout structure yet, I don't think,
but fifty five million dollars for Norvelle when when they
gave him that extension, I couldn't even understand why, Like
I was like, yo, he's not gonna leave for Alabama?
What are we doing? Like stop just handing out money?

(41:41):
And if and if you leave, cool bye bye. If
if if you're that desperate, then then you weren't gonna
stay here anyway. So by so for yeah, so for
Luke Fickle, I believe that Wisconsin is saying we hired

(42:02):
the right guy, we have not given him the resources
necessary to be successful. His head, his quarterbacks have been
absolutely devastated the last like his Yeah, he lost his
starting quarterback two years in a row, and it's gonna
be tough to win like that. So and under resourced

(42:23):
and underfunded. Yeah. I like their philosophy, and all right, Louke,
all right, cool man, We still but believe in you.
You will be back next year, but we're gonna resource
you and then we're gonna see what you're really made
out of. And if you can't get us six or
seven wins next year, then you know, and if your

(42:46):
quarterback gets hurt again, maybe you're just bad luck and
we need to find somebody else.

Speaker 2 (42:51):
Yeah. What I don't love for Wisconsin football is being
dependent on their quarterbacks health when they were relevant for
such a long time. You know, un be one one
Wisconsin quarterback ever like Scott Tolzin. I can name all
their running backs, I can name all their left tackles,
but like it's like he's gotten them outside their identity.

(43:11):
And I see all these complaints online of like he
no showed or wouldn't promise to show up to some
booster events. He has no relationship with high school coaches.
I think things are really really bad in Wisconsin. But
but you might be right, maybe they're sincere. I will
say that the Florida State statement sounds like like like
that behind the scenes, the athletic director is committing extortion

(43:36):
on the boosters to be like, Hey, if you guys
don't pony up this money, I'm going to extend Mike Norville. Yeah,
like you you don't think I will watch me issue
this statement saying that he's around until the end of
the year. You want me to issue a statement saying
that he'll be back next something about it.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
They are owing for an ACC play. They have not
won an ACC game since twenty twenty three. They still
have Wake Forest at Clemson, Virginia Tech, NC State, and
Florida left Ralph. How many games will they win?

Speaker 2 (44:14):
I think two or three. I definitely think he's lost
the locker room. I don't think the players take him seriously.
I think he's got a lot of dudes who did
not handle becoming wealthy or wealthy relatively well off in college.
I think the energy of a guy like Castianos is

(44:36):
very important for that team. But I think for the
most part, you had a lot of guys that were
on a thirteen and oh squad that came back got
nil money and just aren't I'm not a big believer
in blaming the players, but the truth of the matter is,
and you know this to be true, George, there's a
lot of guys out there who feel like they win

(44:59):
that l check hit a real relief in the pressure
that they put on themselves to succeed. And I think
Mike Norvell has been having a real uphill battle. And
I noticed this, Like I go to ACC media day
and I see the guys that show off to represent
the team, and they got on like the most iced
out chains I've ever seen in my entire life. You know,

(45:22):
coming back off a squad that didn't get any penetration,
You've got a defensive tackle out there with like the biggest,
brightest chain I've ever seen, And so you know, it's
just I do think that there's a lot of guys
at Florida State who aren't hungry because they got fed
and that's not a great place to be in the

(45:44):
current atmosphere of because you're not a pro yet and
so you can't handle the perks of being a pro
in Tallahassee. You know, there's a lot of losers in
the NFL who cash checks every week.

Speaker 1 (46:00):
Yes, that is very very true. That is very very true.
So yeah, I look at this situation and I'm like,
I on the Mike Norvel's situation, I just don't think that.
It feels like he's not going to be able to

(46:21):
solve it, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (46:24):
Yeah, And it's.

Speaker 1 (46:26):
All because he went to payday loan route. They portaled
everybody in the year they went thirteen and know they
were like, ooh, that'll work again. False. And then they
were like, it'll work again. We just got the wrong guys.
No high school recruit your asshole feel holes in the

(46:46):
portal develop that's the actual recipe for way.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
Well, let's move on from people who are losing to
people who are winning. Let's talk about our updated Heisman outlook.
Ye this week, I think that Diego Pavia made a huge,
huge splash. But I have a question for you, George,
can Diego Pavia win a Heisman in a year where
Alabama keeps winning, is it even possible for Diego Pavia

(47:14):
to win a Heisman if Alabama doesn't fumble the bag
in some way?

Speaker 1 (47:21):
One, Yes, I do not believe that Ty Simpson is
even should even be the Heisman leader right now. I
believe Fernando Mendoza and then Diego Pavia should be the
Heisman top two right right now. If Vanderbilt keeps winning,

(47:44):
I believe that you're going to that the growing sentiment
surrounding the Heisman Trophy. And if I were Vanderbilt, this
would be my messaging that I am getting out because
they still got Missouri. If they beat Missouri, then beat Texas, Auburn, Kentucky,

(48:04):
even if they lose Tennessee at the end. But if
they go five and oh to end the season and
finish eleven and one, he's doing more with less. My
messaging would would be, this is the ultimate underdog story.

(48:24):
You can you can vote for the dude who and
and even though that this is not Ty Simpson's story,
this is I mean like you can vote for the
guy who who arrived on third base, or you can
vote for the guy who pulled itself up by his bootstraps.
He went, I would make this a legacy award, like

(48:47):
Ron Dain got started off at a Juco, goes to
New Mexico, then goes to Vanderbilt. Nobody wants to be
a Vandabin. You can't win at Vanderbilt. Oh he's winning
at vanderber beats Alabama first time in forty years, and
then this year takes a team to ten and two

(49:09):
and to the SEC Championship game. What are you gonna say? Hmmm,
I would make this a legacy award and not a
just a single season award. Then I think he gets votes?

Speaker 2 (49:25):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, I just I wonder if if
if ty Simpson keeps playing the way he's playing right now,
It just makes me wonder if because they had that
head to head, if people would still vote Pavia over.

Speaker 1 (49:39):
Poppy didn't didn't play bad in the in the Uh no,
he didn't know you can be like he did. Simpson
ghost and he goes toe to toe with the big
bad giant like he's David.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
Yeah. No, he's the best. He's absolutely the best. It's
just that Ty Simpson is not making him any they
keep winning.

Speaker 1 (49:57):
I'm gonna start Kim campaigning for him.

Speaker 2 (50:02):
It feels like what it feels like is rooting for
Phil Micholson against Tiger Woods.

Speaker 1 (50:06):
Though, oh god no, because it's like, yeah, no, I
would never Yeah it does, No, it doesn't. How could you.
I don't even understand how people like Phil Phil Micholson, lefty,
come on now, nothing about it? Yes, I never understood it.

Speaker 2 (50:21):
I'm like, he ain't like do you know how many golfers?
But he was number two in the world for Phil Mickelson.
But he was number two in the world and he
was playing the If Tiger didn't exist, he would have
been the number one player in the world over like
a five.

Speaker 1 (50:39):
Underdog, and there's nothing about him as an underdog.

Speaker 2 (50:44):
Well yeah, well, I see what you're saying. I'm just
saying that, like Tiger Woods never messed up well when
he was healthy on the golf course. I'm just saying, like,
how can you how can you pass somebody who doesn't
make mistakes? It's tough. And I get some people support the.

Speaker 1 (51:09):
Florida State, which is going to be the worst loss
in the Sea.

Speaker 2 (51:14):
Yeah, but in the same way that you point out
how Diego Pavia played against Alabama, That's how Ty Simpson
played against Florida State, like it wasn't that bad. But
it'll be funny when people justify giving a vote to
Diego Pavia because Vanderbilt has a better loss, but the
loss is to the guy that they're voting against. All Right, So, George,

(51:36):
my other question for you is, do I get to
start calling myself a quarterback guru if at the end
of the year, on the Heisman stage Fernando Mendoza and
Brendan Sowersby are both there. Okay, the fact that you

(51:57):
even have to think about this is very funny. The
answer should be no. I'm a five eight white dude
in mint Hill, North Carolina who never played quarterback.

Speaker 1 (52:06):
At this point, we're gonna see, yes, it is quarterback spotter.
Like Ralph knows quarterback talent when he sees it. I mean, dude,
I have I mean the The only one that he
probably missed on that I'm very surprised was that when

(52:28):
when I was telling him how good Josh Allen was
gonna be, and he did not even believe it. Of
his of his Wyoming Cowboys, Ralph, I don't know how
you possibly could have thought that that Josh Allen was
a I think your quote was a running back playing quarterback.

(52:51):
I think, and you said that that you you don't
go from being this inaccurate to being accurate. He is
going to be an NFL bust and a bum and
and and then me making up a Twitter account to
then defend him like how how did how did you

(53:11):
miss that badly?

Speaker 2 (53:12):
On?

Speaker 1 (53:12):
Josh Allen?

Speaker 2 (53:13):
This is the problem with you, you and me looking
like is sometimes you forget which one of us is
which Oh my gosh, those things.

Speaker 1 (53:25):
By that John's the biggest swing and miss of all time.
But Ralph has given me Rock Party, who who I
was a fan of in college. But I didn't think
he was gonna be good. I thought it would be
a good backup in the pros. I didn't think it
was gonna be good. Josh Allen, he's giving me Demand Williams.
He has been right about Dylan Ryola. Who else.

Speaker 2 (53:50):
I would, Yeah, Fernando's up there. And then Brendan Sosby, Yeah,
Brendon Soresby going into the Arizona State game last year
when Cincinnati was like I don't know three and two
or something like that. I got on my on my
ASU podcast and I was like, guys, We're going up
against an NFL quarterback and people were like, no, that's ridiculous,

(54:10):
and I'm like, no, no, you just don't see the vision.
I will tell you. I do have one swing and
miss is my first ever quarterback that I like got
an unhealthy obsession with, and I feel like if Soresby
ends up getting drafted into the NFL, it will wash
that one out of my system. It was actually a
Cincinnati quarterback. It was my biggest swing and miss ever was.

(54:34):
I used to go hard in the paint for a
six foot six Brian Kelly quarterback. Do you know who
I'm talking about? Six six? Well wait, Brian Kelly quarterback
at Cincinnati. Yeah. See, this is the problem. He made
it so that nobody even remembers him. Tony Pike. I

(54:55):
was obsessed with Tony Pike. Okay, and that that is
to the to date, that is my absolute biggest whiff.
But it's it's not every quarter. It's not like the
quarterbacks that everyone knows will be good. There's these ones
that I just get like and I got the tweets
to prove it. Like when after one game of Josh
Allen in college, I posted I was like this might

(55:16):
be the next Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, I used to scream
at people to offer Rock party when he was still
in high school. He didn't get his first Power five
offer until after his high school career ended. And I
feel I've felt the same way about Brendon Soresby. I
had to see Fernando Mendoza play a game in college
before I got on that train. Yeah, but I do,

(55:37):
I get a lot wrong, But like, this is the
one thing I'm super proud of is if I see
Fernando Mendoz and Brendan Soresby on the Heisman stage together,
Nobody's gonna be able to tell me shit.

Speaker 1 (55:45):
For a And that's fair. That's fair.

Speaker 2 (55:49):
One year off of Josh Allen MVP and a two
hundred and fifty million dollars rock contract.

Speaker 1 (55:55):
The paper MVP. It was Lamar's award.

Speaker 2 (55:59):
I don't disagree, but it happened. Yeah, all right, let's
let's finish up our storylines with I want to know George.
Because Memphis and UNLV went down this last weekend. Who's
our G five College Football playoff favorite? Right now?

Speaker 1 (56:15):
Memphis, They're finish, go beat USF this weekend. Soon as
they beat us UF they will be back in it.
If not us it's it's over. It's USF.

Speaker 2 (56:26):
So this is basically a college football playoff game.

Speaker 1 (56:28):
Yeah, yep yeah. On the College UNLV Prediction Show, which
is up right right now, you will uh you will
learn that. Yes, it is a one playoff game.

Speaker 2 (56:45):
So no no shot for UNLV at all, even if
they went out, even if they get Boise State back
in like a Mountain West.

Speaker 1 (56:52):
Yeah no, no, no no, because if you USF, if they
don't lose, then they are in there for good, Permanentkay.

Speaker 2 (57:00):
All right, so let's get to reister wrong. Uh, this
is this is probably my favorite storyline of the week,
and it has to do with FCS football, which we
don't talk about very often. We actually do talk about
Sacramento State quite a bit because because your boy and
former Arizona State assistant is the head coach out at

(57:21):
Sacramento Stoll.

Speaker 1 (57:22):
I talked to him to day. I think we're gonna
have him on the show week.

Speaker 2 (57:29):
That would be incredible, so I'll be careful what I say.

Speaker 1 (57:34):
Isn't it funny? Oh yeah, dude, dude. I literally have
been texting with Brennan and with Kenny Dilly haam today.

Speaker 2 (57:44):
Oh that's that's fascinating. I'm actually going to write a
column today for my Arizona Versity website talking about how
Kenny Dillingham was wrong about something. So let's see if
we can piss off both coaches that you've been here.
We go. All right, So this actually doesn't have any
thing to do with Brandon Marion at all, but the
president of Sacramento State, the man who probably signed off

(58:06):
on the hiring of brand and Marion, decided to get
involved in this upcoming game between sax State and Montana.
Sax State's president, Luke Wood called Montana, who are the grizzlies,
by the way, and who have been an FCS powerhouse
for a long time. Yes, he called them the pandas.

(58:32):
I don't know, I don't know, but it was you
know how you say, you say a hit dog hollers. Yes,
I've never seen people get so mad over something that's like,
I won't say, not that big of a deal because
doesn't have anything to do with me. I don't get
to decide whether it's the big deal or not. Montana's pissed, dude,

(58:55):
they're furious. They are the Grizzlies. Yes, So this is
the quote from Lukewood. He said, we're looking forward to
playing the Montana Pandas. Sorry Montana Grizzlies. Grizzlies, I think

(59:16):
that's their name, right. The head coach of Montana, Bobby
how was like, that guy's kind of a clown, right,
Oh wow? And Wood said he didn't take that personally,
and he said it's all in good fun. Guess who's
not taking it is all in good fun? Who the
entire University of Montana, although they did put up a

(59:38):
mock helmet of what pandas would look like in the
cursive script on the side of their on the side
of their helmets. Yeah, they're pissed though, And I that's so.
There's this phrase, don't poke the bear. They're literally the bear,
the grizzly bears, not the panda bears. And they are
very good. Do you think this is smart if your

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boss's boss. Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:00:01):
So Montana has beat They have one common opponent right now,
which is cal Poly. Montana beat cal Poly and they're
seven to zero, and Sacramento State lost to cal Poly.
So but one of these teams is having tremendous, a

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tremendously difficult time throwing the football, Montana is completing sixty
nine sixty eight percent of the passes for two thousand yards,
fourteen touchdown, six picks. Okay. Now, on the other hand,
Sacramento State has been shuffling quarterbacks and now they are

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a running football team. A running football team, Ralph like
this is they don't even like they have a eleven
twelve hundred yards passing total. Yeah, it's it's not it's
it's suboptimal. They in the last game versus Northern Colorado Ralph,

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they Sacramento State eight for sixteen passing for ninety yards.
Jade Vershata won for one and then they ran the
ball fifty seven times for three hundred and thirty two yards.

Speaker 2 (01:01:32):
Would you have done this if your sack states, well,
the whole thing is reister wrong. So like, was Sacramento
State's president reister or wrong for poking the bear or
are we gonna find out?

Speaker 1 (01:01:44):
We are gonna find out. I'm I'm gonna go with reister.
He said. It was in jest, like people, you know,
just joke around. Sometimes you take yourself too seriously.

Speaker 2 (01:01:56):
Yeah, we're getting dangerously close to We're getting dangerously close
to like racial overtones involved in this feud as well,
because sax State I think they they played Northern Colorado
a little while back and they had Little YACHTI play
after the game and then there was like a big fight.

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There was like a brawl and Montana. Montana's coach, Bobby
Hawk I think, called it a riot. Now this this
game is at sax State and Quevo is playing after
the Montana game, So I'm just curious that we're going
to see a bunch of Montana fans with skull in

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their bottom lip out here watching Cuevo. I'm so excited
for this game. We wouldn't be talking about this game otherwise,
So shout out to shout out to sax State in Montana.
We are officially on fan to watch Reister or Wrong.

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Texas Texas Athletic director has issued a ban on throwing
tortillas because they keep getting fined. Texas Tech fans are
pissed at the Big twelve and this all comes on
the heels of Kansas Knifegate, in which Lance Leopold made
a claim that that Texas Tech students threw a pocket
knife onto the field. Turns out that was not the

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case and Kansas actually got fined for disparaging a conference opponent.
But Texas Tech fans believe in their mind that this
is all leading to them being banned from throwing tortillas
a prize tradition in Lubbock. Reister or wrong banning tortillas
being thrown in Lubbock.

Speaker 1 (01:03:38):
It is one reister only because they're getting fined for it.
Fans have to abide by the rules. You throw the
tortillas before the game, and then no more tortilla throwing,
No more tortillera throwing. And then you can throw tortillas
after the game. That's it. Those are only two acceptable

(01:04:00):
times to throw tortillas. I don't care if you're mad
at the refs, if you're frustrated, anything like that. And
if you can't follow that, then yes, we have to
ban tortillas.

Speaker 2 (01:04:10):
In the twenty fourteen season, Sun Deville Stadium as it
was called at the time, banned tortillas from being brought
into the stadium at all. So I say this as
an Arizona State fan. You can survive this.

Speaker 1 (01:04:23):
Oh, I've been well a tortilla game though, Ralph. Yeah,
when we played in the Sun Bowl against Minnesota the
year I red shirted they threw tortillas in in Olpaso.

Speaker 2 (01:04:36):
That's awesome. I don't love it, even though this week
I found out that Texas Tech fans are not as
cool as I thought that they were, and Big twelve
fans are have been in my mensis all week long
saying like, welcome to the party. I still like Texas Tech,
still root for them, but God dealing with their fans

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this week sucked so much. I do want to segue
into how much authority we think these coaches have because
Kalani Sataki after the Holy War, he appealed to the
scriptures in the Book of Mormon to encourage BYU fans
to be cool to Utah fans after victory and field storming,

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and they had said don't storm the field, and BYU
fans did it anyway? Do these coaches have any authority
over these kids at all?

Speaker 1 (01:05:26):
No? No, they get sauted. They're like, do you think
you're gonna stop us from storming the field against Utah? No? No.
The the best you can hope for is to do
what Vanderbilt did is to put out a siren. They
were like, hold on, hold on, hold it like brave heart.

Speaker 3 (01:05:47):
Hold hold Okay, there there, their staffers off the field
go they put a horn on Some people could that's
that's the best you can do, Phil Field storming is
part of the part of jam.

Speaker 2 (01:06:01):
Get over you, okay, reister or wrong. We are on
the precipice of something very bad happening between fans and players.
And I say that because we just had a Texas
Tech defensive lineman smush an Arizona State fans face, which
I have no problem with. Don't I think that you
should celebrate a win, not troll your opponent. Some people

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will say hands off regardless. I don't care. You weren't
supposed to be on the playing surface. You decided to
go up to an opposing player. He didn't hit you,
he pushed your face away. It could have been a
lot worse. I'm not trying to say that's what you get.
I'm saying I don't feel bad. But I showed you
a clip, and I'm not talking about the Texas Tech
thing so much as I am talking about this. I
showed you a clip of the Coastal Carolina players going

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after the app State fans, and the Coastal Carolina players
are on the field and the app State fans were
in the stand, so nobody left their area for this.
But I think even you'll admit, and you guys can
find this clip. It's out on tick Talk. The Coastal
Carolina players were out of pocket going after the app
State fans.

Speaker 1 (01:07:06):
Yes, yeah, but they were, but they were still standing
on the playing field, so everybody was away from each other.
I just I do believe that we are in line
for something bad to happen, which I absolutely hate. I
don't like it at all, and I don't want it
to happen. And this is why fans have to abide

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by the rules, which is stay in your lane. If
you wouldn't say it to their face, don't, don't say
it because you're you're You're gonna end up with some
bad situations and it's gonna be bad for everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:07:42):
I don't like some of the way some of the
fans have talked to Uh, to our guy at UH,
to Diego Pava. I think the Alabama fans after that
game got a little out of pocket. I think that
Auburn's quarterback has taken his fair share of shots from
the fans. I think that's all part of it. But
what we saw in that Coastal Carolina game was the
quarterback literally run over to the stands and cuss everybody

(01:08:05):
out while another player sit yeah, two middle fingers to
the sky grabbing his dick. So I just feel like
we're getting dangerously close to things getting really really weird.
All right, last one, and I don't know if you
saw this, but Colin Simmons at Texas, who have mixed
feelings about my mixed feelings. I believe he's a incredible

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a top ten pick. Would love him on the Ears,
on the Cardinals, and b I think that his judgment
is suspect at times. Why because he gets on his
phone during games and like retweets stuff and he's bigger
than the.

Speaker 1 (01:08:43):
Yeah yeah, yes, wait he's retweeting stuff during the game.

Speaker 2 (01:08:49):
Yeah. So during the Peach Bowl, you know, Texas was
up big at halftime, Yes, so he like went into
the locker room and posted on his Instagram story that
Cam Scataboo sucks and it was like work and all
that stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:09:02):
Like.

Speaker 2 (01:09:02):
So, like what I'm saying is he is he is
as talented as it gets. I also very much question
his judgment at times. This week he exercised that questionable
judgment to do something. I want to know, reister wrong
if you thought it was the right move. In the
press conference after this narrow Texas win over Kentucky, which

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if you know ball, you don't put any stock in.
If you know ball, you don't a narrow win in
Lexington that you're just happy to get out a lot
for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:09:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:09:34):
Yeah, So like I'm I'm not worried about Texas. I
don't want to talk about what. You know, Texas looked
bad or whatever. It's Lexington. It's hell. You know, no
one looks good playing in Lexington. They're tough as hell
in their own They don't win, but they're tough as
hell in their home stadium. So after the game, I
guess Sark told a media member this team's identity is
defense and special teams right now. Yeah, And a media

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member repeated that back to Colin Simmons. Okay, and Colin
Simmons said, I think our coach meant to say offense,
defense and special teams. If he didn't say it, you
meant to no right right to say that, right, Colin Simmons.
Colin Simmons, And there's a clip out there. You'll see
it eventually. Like he Colin Simmons, he said no, like

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our if our coach didn't say it, he meant to.
We have each other's backs here, So do you was
he riser or wrong? Did he undercut sark Was he
being a good teammate?

Speaker 1 (01:10:29):
I think he was trying to be a good teammate.
But I'm not necessarily gonna correct my coach in the
in the media. I think that's what he meant to say.
So then you can go back and be like, yo,
hey coach, Hey, did you mean to say this? Nah? Man,
I said what I meant? And then now you go

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you can't.

Speaker 2 (01:10:53):
You can't. If you're sark you can't. That's a checkmate
to me, what do you mean you if you are
Steve Sarkisian, you can't correct Colin Simmons. You'll see I'm
gonna send you this clip. I'm gonna send you this
clip right now. Why can't you them because of what

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what he said? Here? Let me, I'm I'm gonna find
this real quick. Have you ever been in a situation
where you've seen somebody in a press conference say like
my my coach was wrong?

Speaker 1 (01:11:32):
No, not no, not typically no, that's typically frowned upon.

Speaker 2 (01:11:36):
And so that's why I said, like I do question.
All right, So I'm sending I'm sending it to you
right now, uh, the via text message. It's a real
short clip, all right. So I want you to crank
the volume up on your on on your phone, and
I want you to, uh to react to this in

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real time because this one, this one caught me by.

Speaker 1 (01:12:05):
Okay, I'm waiting on it to come in. Wait, you
sent it to my Twitter or you sent it to
my I text you, I text you, all right, all right,
I got it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:17):
So this is Colin Simmons, star defensive end for University
of Texas after their overtime win against Kentucky team right now.

Speaker 4 (01:12:24):
Defense special identity of defense. So when he said defense,
I think he meant to say defense special teams in
offense with a team with a whole team.

Speaker 2 (01:12:40):
So I mean it ain't just defense and special teams.
Is defense special teams in the offense.

Speaker 1 (01:12:44):
We got the offensive back, we got offense back, offense
got our bag, special teams got both our backs. Yeah,
I don't think there's any reason to correct him. I
think that you know that he's been being a good
teammate and like that's it. That's what he was trying
to do. He's trying to be encouraging and trying to
be a leader. Yeah. I'm not mad at that, neither

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of mine.

Speaker 2 (01:13:05):
But I'm just saying, Sark can't come out and say, like, no,
our offense sucks.

Speaker 1 (01:13:10):
Oh even though they do, they're not great.

Speaker 2 (01:13:16):
They're not great. Well let's end on Matt. No, what
what are you looking forward to this upcoming week?

Speaker 1 (01:13:22):
Oh my gosh, bro, the what I believe are the
sixth most important games of the weekend. And I talked
about this yesterday on the Live show. I believe that
there are six games that are like highly important and
those are the and for different reasons Texas, but they're

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all kind of related. Text saying hm LSU. So this
is about coaches, right, Brian, Brian Kelly's fighting for his
life right now. He may not be fighting for his job,
but he's fighting for his life. Nebraska and Northwestern. Matt
Rule loses this game. Because Northwestern is five and two,
they might should be ranked soon their worst law, I

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mean they lost Oregon is if Nebraska is a seven
and a half point favorite, loses this game, Matt Rule
ain't gonna be a sexy higher at Penn State. He
actually might be forced to stay at Nebraska, which I
don't know is going to happen. Are Arkansas versus Auburn,

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Bobby Petrino fighting for his life and so is well,
we'll just finish this here and and you got because
we just lost the camera. The camera got tired. And
then Auburn Hugh Freeze is fighting for his life. Washington
and Illinois, both of them, guys might be fighting for

(01:14:49):
new jobs or fighting for new contracts where they're at
and yeah, like that's oh. And then the Memphis and
USF game, Ryan Silverfield and Alex Gould is fighting it
out for a playoff spot and fighting for jobs.

Speaker 2 (01:15:09):
I'm looking forward to these teams in the Big Twelve
that are on life support whether or not they can
they can handle themselves. So Utah is probably going to
be without Devin dan Pier and they got Colorado come
into town, and if they lose, that's going to be
their third Big Twelve loss. And this is kind of
a lost season for Utah if that's the case. Arizona

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State has six and one Houston coming to town. The
loser of this game will be three and two in
the Big Twelve and will will be as close to
dead as you can possibly be Baylor goes to Cincinnati.
I can't believe I'm rooting against myself here, but I
kind of as an Arizona State guy, need Baylor to win.
But I do want Brendan Soursby to look good. If

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Cincinnati moves to five and oher in the Big Twelve,
that's got to be one of the biggest surprises of
the season. And then undefeated BYU is in ames Iowa,
and this is it. Like I would state, if they
want to go back to the Big Twelve title game,
it's a must win. Plus they're gonna need extra help later.
I predicted before the season that BYU would go eight
and oh and then fall off a cliff. In order

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for BYU to go eight and oh, I need them
to win this weekend in Aims. So I think it's
going to be a really, really wacky weekend at the
Big Twelve. And the other thing I'm looking forward to.
Wyoming made a change at offensive coordinator. They put program
legend Javon Bonnit into call plays. If we can score
more than twenty points of be an absolute miracle.

Speaker 1 (01:16:30):
You said it would be a miracle.

Speaker 2 (01:16:32):
We sucked, dude, and this is the I was looking
forward to being the reason Jane Orville got fired, but
they fired him before the border war. So this is
Wyoming's rivalry game and they put a program legend in
charge the offense. I just hope that we I hope
we move the ball at all.

Speaker 1 (01:16:48):
Geez, way to be Debbie Downer, Bud.

Speaker 2 (01:16:53):
I'm down like your camera.

Speaker 1 (01:16:56):
Yeah all right, Well you guys, thanks for watching the
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