February 27, 2025 • 55 mins
On this episode of College Football Apostles George Wrighster and Ralph Amsden air grievances about the SEC and Big Ten's takeover of the College Football playoff format.
The guys also get into Carson Beck and Hanna Cavinder's cars getting stolen, and what college athletes need to do to protect their assets. Plus, the cast of the first season of Last Chance U has decided to sue Netflix and others over their portrayal and compensation from the first season of the show- is it a cash grab or does the suit have merit?
Finally, George and Ralph talk about the Australian punter scandal, as well as Shedeur Sanders dropping new music ahead of the upcoming NFL Draft.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Unafraid Show College Football Apostles. I'm George Reister, He's Ralph Emsden,
and we got to talk today about the Big Ten
and the SEC taking over the college football Playoff. Whether
we like it, do we love it, or do we
absolutely hate it? Carson Beck now is now a part
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of getting robbed. This has happened in professional athletics, but
now it's happening to college athletes and people are blaming
him for it. What Shadur Sanders the kid drops new
music just ahead of the draft. Are we listening to it?
And is it a banger? And of course there's a
scandal going on, but this one is about assy punters
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and their place in football altogether and Last Chance You
participants are suing Netflix. That and so much more here
on The Unafraid Show's College Football Apostles. Make sure that
you like, subscribe, get notifications, tell a friend about the show,
and most importantly share. Let's get to it, Ralph, We're
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gonna start with the Big Ten and the SEC taking
over the College Football Playoff. I could not hate this anymore.
This goes against the spirit of college football. This goes
against everything that we love about college football. And if
you don't know what's happening, let me kind of give
you the recap of it. So, starting in twenty twenty six,
(01:45):
with the playoff expansion, the big ten in the SEC
essentially negotiated their own backdoor deal that in twenty twenty
six they get to be the lone people who decide
what happens for the future of the playoffs in terms
of expansion. Who gets in all of this stuff, Like, yes,
they're supposedly is going to have to be a vote
(02:07):
on it, but the way it's built that they're going
to have the say so of what happens. And also
there are changes that they want to make for twenty
twenty five, which is that instead of the conference champions
getting buys, that they go in order of rankings, that
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that who get the buys. We'll discuss that as well.
But from twenty twenty six on, Ralph, this is everything
that I hate about the game that I love, which
is college football, which is the powers and the money
dictating everything about it because the SEC is dangling is
(02:50):
carried around. Hey guys, we'll play nine conference games. We'll
play nine conference games, and we'll give you on top
of that, On top of that, guys, for your additional
one hundred million dollars, you we're gonna slash the price
and give it to you for thirty three million, and
we're gonna add in a scheduling agreement with the Big Ten.
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But the nine conference games is what you've been wanting.
We're gonna give it to you. But in exchange for that,
we need and expanded playoffs to not twelve, not fourteen,
but sixteen games for you, sixteen teams for you the consumer,
and all we want in return, it's just a minimum
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of four teams in. That's all we want. Let's expand
the playoffs, not for the most merit based of teams
to get in, but just so we make sure that
we have enough teams in. We're gonna give you extra spots.
You guys want expansion, We're gonna give you expansion, but
we're not gonna give you. But in exchange for that expansion,
(03:58):
we're actually we actually you want to take all the
expanded spots. I hate this route.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Are you sure you hate it?
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Yes? I hate it with the power of a thousand sons.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
All right, I'm just making sure because you and I
have a lot of conversations off air about boxing.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Okay, I'm nervous.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
We have a lot of conversations, and you have told
me quite a few times that you don't have a
problem with the fact that Floyd Mayweather was so big.
Did he got the handpick everybody? Did he got to
hand pick the dates? This is the This is the
to the to the rich, go the spoils, or whether
to the victor go to spoils. You you get to
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the point where you can lobby enough for your own
self interest and you can take over an entire organization
and you can just use it to serve yourself.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Oh, I pArg you.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
This is the thing you just described is everything I've
complained about about Bob aram the Big ten and Floyd
Mayweather the SEC for years, and you told me I
was wrong, ral And now I hear you talking about
college football kind of in the same way. I'm just wondering,
did something change? Do you want to talk about box?
(05:15):
I know it's college football puzzles, but I'm just wondering
if you see the connection that I see.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Ralph. I'm going to use your example and raise your example,
flip it on you, and you're gonna be like, God, dang,
what I wasn't prepared for this for him to wiggle
out of this box. All right, Ralph, So you bring
up fantastic points about boxing. You are one hundred percent right.
(05:43):
What has happened to boxing?
Speaker 2 (05:48):
It's it's falling off. Like we all know two or
three boxers.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Bingo bingo, bengo bongo. Do you know what's going on
in the UFC, the other combat sport? The commissioner which
college football needs, which I've active, which I've advocated for.
The commissioner consistently puts up the best fights. He doesn't
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allow brinky dink bs scheduling like Ohio State did last year,
like Georgia did the last time that they won a
national championship, like Michigan did, where you are a power
school and you play three gimmes, three layups, three nonpout
and Power five or Power four conference teams in your
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non conference. So I love college football. I want college
football to be the number one thing in the entire universe.
But it won't happen with stuff like this. It is boxing, Ralph.
It will go the same way as boxing. If you
let the powers that be control and disseminate everything, all
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you're going to get is Big ten Champion, SEC Champion,
Big ten Champion SEC Big ten, Big ten, Big ten, SCC,
SCCSCC ACC, Big twelve will never win a championship again
because and this is the problem with college football route
is that there is a hoarding of power and it
is not for the benefit of the sport. It is
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for the benefit of those of the people in power.
This is no different than what is going on in
the world today and life any of that is. That's
the thing, honestly, that makes the CAP the NFL so great.
The Dallas Cowboys are by far the most valuable franchise.
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They have no better chance of winning than the Tampa
Bay Buccaneers or the or the Green Bay Packers, who
have no true owner. The fans own the team, but
they don't even get an equity split. There's no rouph.
There is no team in the NFL that has no
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hope besides the Chicago Bears, and it's their own fault.
And in college football, the fact that you have teams
with no hope and now with the Big ten in
SEC taken over, there is no hope for anybody else.
It is the disaster. This will ruin the sport of
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college football, Did I wiggle out of the box good
enough for you?
Speaker 2 (08:34):
I think you made a lot of really good points.
I think what I was looking for was like something
that rhymes with mouth, was flight about that. The conversation
will continue at a later date, all right.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
So I do not think that this is good for anybody.
This is why college football needs a commissioner, because college
football needs parody. And you're listening to this from somebody
whose team does not operate in parody at all. My
Oregon Ducks are. They have pushed their way into the
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upper echelon of college football with money, with access, with winning,
with like a combination of all of them. Right, it
is take what Iowa State has done right, and you
add it because they've done an excellent job building a program,
everything else. That's what Oregon did, except for you add
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in Nike, a lot of marketing, a cool factor, like
all of the things that Iowa does not have, Oregon has.
So they've done the football part and they've done the
marketing part. So that's like put throwing gasoline on a fire.
So you're I'm saying this as somebody who has benefited
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from this, And yes, I do know that what I'm
asking for means that sometimes some periods, Oregon's gonna have
a rough spot. I believe that that is better for
the world of college football, that Vanderbilt may win a
championship or Rutgers may win a championship than the direction
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that it's going.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
I understand, I understand what you're saying, and I wholeheartedly
agree with you. But part of this negotiation right now,
there is some logic to receding.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Yes, I don't. I got no problem with tweaking the system.
Like with tweaking the.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
My issue with receding is it that it ignores that
probably just seating is broken because so much much of
it is based on what somebody feels about a team
going into the preseason. And if you have a team
go eleven and one that didn't have a lot of
respect and doesn't have a schedule that a lot of
people respect, and you have a team that everyone expected
(11:14):
to go eleven and one go eleven and one those
two teams don't play each other, then it's very natural
for us to say team we expected to be great
is much better, deserves to be ranked much higher. And
that's because we do have a committee system. When it
comes to the rankings, I almost wish that and it's
(11:35):
never really talked about, but one of the drastic changes
that would be made to college football is it's fine
and dandy to have AP rankings, but there should be
a ranking structure that drops like six weeks into the
season that is the actual one that we go by.
That's all because it so much of it has to
(11:57):
do with what you talked about, the branding, the mar ma,
getting the expectations. In the same way that you tell
people they have to lobby for the Heisman. A lot
of work for what people think of you going into
next season is done the season before the season before that.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
This is why the Unafraid Show college football rankings are
the best rankings on the planet, because yes, we come
out with a preseason poll, but then what what happens
as new information comes and in the beginning of the season,
what do what do people say about the pole in
the beginning of the season? Ralph likes week one, week two,
(12:32):
week week three meaningless? Yeah, what what what the the
Unaffraid Show rankings? They're like, oh, those are crazy? What
are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (12:41):
How they're comparing it to what they know and and
they're comparing it to expectations and Vegas odds and everything
like that. All you can really deal with is how
a team plays and looks and the time capital of
the season.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
We're in, yes, and when in if Ohio State or
Alabama or Georgia or Clemson or any other name brand
team starts out the season with three layup games, Like,
you don't play a Power five given I don't care
if you win by eighty points a game, You're not
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going to be number one in the post. Just not,
especially when other teams have beaten Power four teams that
should not be so. And this is the problem with
the voting is that it is based upon like they're
projecting out what they think they're like, they beat them
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by seventy five points three weeks in a in a row. Yes,
they didn't play any any teams that were competition for them,
but they're ranked high into recruiting rankings. This team we
know is gonna be good, and yes, they may be good,
but you should not be ranking them at a particular
spot until they have proven that they should be there.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
I'm with you one hundred percent. There was a time
last year when a five and six Kansas legitimately was
one of the best twenty five teams in the country,
but they were five and six, and so, like, you
should have a system that kind of looks at where
somebody's at. You brought up UFC. They have that. You know,
(14:25):
there's a fighter that I followed in the UFC. His
name is Matt Brown, and he would consistently be ranked
amongst one of the best competitors in the entire UFC,
even though his lifetime record was like eighteen and seventeen,
because he's being judged based on like what he's capable
(14:47):
of right now, yeah, right, And so like, there's some
teams genuinely in November Kansas was one of the top
twenty five teams in the country. And we know this
because they beat three top twenty five in the country.
And so you should you should be able to look
at things like that. But it's hard. It's hard for
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college football to get out of what it's always been,
which is reputation and expectation.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
And people are not going to put their jobs at risk.
Think about if you're Tony Pettiti with the Big Ten,
if you're a Greg Sankie at the SEC, not only
will your job potentially vanish, but your job will become
less powerful. Even if it doesn't vanish, your job will
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become significantly less powerful. You will have less staff, less influence,
all of that stuff, and nobody's going to volunteer for that.
That's why you have to have This is where the
presidents of the universities have to be above the athletic directors,
above the coaches, above the commitment like that. Those are
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the people that hire the commissioners. They have to be
academic people at that point in time and say, hmm,
I know that we don't understand what's best for sports
on a regular, you know, intricate basis, but we do
believe because because there are more have notts than are
(16:19):
our halves. In college football, there are more have nots,
as in teams that can win a national cannot win
a national championship versus teams that can win a national championship.
And these are in power conferences too. So if you
are those teams, why would you not say we need
(16:40):
a place where we can be competitive and not a
place where we can just make the most money. Because
you can make the most money and have no shot.
Rutgers has no shot of winning a national championship any time.
If the current system stays the same and there is
a perject that will not happen. And we got a
(17:03):
video coming out talking about that twenty and a half
million dollars because people have rouph foolishly believed that this
twenty and a half million dollar salary cap for college
football is actually a real thing. It reminds me of
the Wolf of Wall Street when Matthew McConaughey is sitting there,
(17:23):
like in there at the dinner. He's like, he was like,
it's for gazy, it's for gatzi. It doesn't exist. It's
vapor doesn't exist. Because the schools are going to, like
Georgia just said, they're keeping their nil collective for third
party deals, so they are going to and what schools
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are going to do, They are going to skate by
with the Title nine stuff because instead of paying Carson
back well over a million dollars like they did last year,
they'll pay Carson back from the collective, I mean from
the school like two hundred thousand dollars and then pay
other people twenty five and twenty five and then put
(18:08):
a lot more of that money into tennis, into basketball,
into rowing into all of that stuff and then have
the nil continue to collective, continue to do the heavy lifting. Yep, yep,
(18:28):
grow up, Peter Pan sisten this this is not h
and I hate to be the bear of bad news,
but this is fake This is fake news. This is disinformation,
This is disingenuine. This is not honest. And a lot
of people don't want to say the quiet part out loud,
(18:50):
but this is why you come to the Unafraid Show,
because you're one of us and we are unafraid.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
What's the So, what's the boogeyman here? As I always
do this in my house. That's a big thing is
when anybody is worrying, I always say, what's the what's
the worst case scenario? Let's name it. Let's name it
so we know what to prepare for. Is the worst
case scenario? The Big twelve in ACC are like, all right,
(19:16):
well then we're just not going to schedule you guys. Yeah, yeah,
you with a completely fractured system. Yeah, Big twelve ACC
because like there's still teams in the ACC trying to leave. Yes, yeah,
North Carolina University of North Carolina is shelling a little
(19:38):
bit of money here and there away every month for
like legal.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Fees, Ralph. And then think about this, right with the
ACC and the Big Twelve, the Big Ten, and the
SEC want to do away with the buys right for
conference champions that will never happen for twenty twenty five
(20:02):
because that creates an additional eight million dollars for those schools.
So Boise State their conference Mount West got an additional
eight million dollars. Same thing with the Big Twelve, Same
thing with the Oh sorry sorry but yeah, yeah, the
Big Twelve with Arizona State, so they got an additional
(20:24):
eight million dollars by getting passed through to the second
round of the playoff. Why would you give that up
when you know you're gonna get screwed on the back end.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Oh of course, yeah. And I mean and there's other
stuff going on too that only benefits certain schools. So
like Alabama and Georgia both passed legislation that nil money
collected by oh it's not tax college athletes doesn't isn't
subject to state tax. Illinois is trying to pass a
(20:56):
bill like that right now as well. And the only
reason that the state of Illinois is trying to pass
a bill like that is the guy that introduced the
bill is a graduate of University of Alabama, so he
gets it right. He's trying, he's trying to help out
the state, the state of Illinois. But it's that there
will there will always be some level of advantage to
(21:20):
certain schools. But I don't understand why those schools have
Conference commissioners walking around like they're the ones that are disadvantaged,
or they're the ones that are getting screwed, or they're
the ones that need extra protection. No, you just have
the resources to look out for yourself. The SEC and
the Big Ten are not getting screwed out of anything.
(21:45):
And if they have it bad anywhere, that means other
people have it worse.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
No one should be.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Worried about the SEC or the Big Ten for any reason.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Exactly. Yep, yep, you are right, bro that that that's
it's gross. Speaking of getting getting screwed, Carson Beck and
his girlfriend, who's it? Libby done?
Speaker 2 (22:12):
No, no, no, Libby dune is uh. I believe I
believe he's dating one of the.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Cast the Cavendar Twins.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Yes, yeah, yeah, maybe Haley out of Gilbert, Arizona. Shout
out the Cavendar.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
There there we go, bulldogs so we got something about this. Uh,
you guys can go check yesterday's Unafraid Show Daily Live
to hear about the other athletes that have been robbed. Well,
Carson Beck and the Cavendar twin that he's with have
(22:47):
now joined that list of Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelce, people
from the Milwaukee Bucks, all athletes all over the place
are being robbed by these by these gang rings. And
we're talking about Chilean gangs, other gangs from other places,
and just people just robbing their houses in general. I
(23:09):
remember that there was a time route where athletes were
protected people in the community where if you killed an
athlete or something like it was it was a no
no like gangs in terms of like they knew, like
stay away from these people, bro, Like it's going to
cost too much heat, you're gonna get investigations, then it's
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gonna bother our organizations stay away from not even just athletes,
but all high profile people. Right. And there's still an
element of that in terms of organizations, right, but individual
people no longer have that same respect. And especially if
you're you know, like you know, like this ain't your
(23:55):
game or nothing, they're like this is opportunity, and Travis
Kelsey and uh and Patrick Mahomes are not people that
are like super showy, right, like they're they're not running
around looking like mister t with thirty gold chains on,
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and or like Floyd Mayweather where he flaunts his wealth
like that's not it and where like a fifty cent
lyric he talks about somebody get getting robbed and he's like,
that's what you get for stunting on my block show off.
And so Carson Beck and his girlfriend there, they just
(24:38):
had three cars stolen, right A Carson Beck had what
his Lamborghini and what a Ben stolen?
Speaker 2 (24:48):
And uh yeah, and a Mercedes. And I believe he
had three cars stolen. One was found and we had
heard about his his first vehicle, the Lamborghini while he
was at Georgia. And it's very possible that some of
these are leases, not necessarily cars that he owns. But yeah,
(25:16):
and then it's Hannah Cavendar, not Haley my apologies, but
Hannah Cavender is somebody who you know Carson Beck. Most
people know Carson Beck from his time as Georgia's starting quarterback.
He's not he's not really on socials in the way
that Hannah and Haley Cavender are.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
No.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Hannah Cavender has a million followers on Instagram, probably more
on TikTok, yes, like a million. And there's also just
a Cavender Twins account that has another four hundred thousand followers,
and her sister's got like a million two. So like
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they are, they are a walking billboard. And now that
one of the most famous college quarterbacks is dating one
of the most famous college basketball players, they make content together,
and so they're you gotta understand because I think a
lot of people are not going to feel sorry for
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people with money who get robbed. That's just how it is. Like, yeah,
and I don't think anybody should. I don't think anybody
should feel sorry for them. I do think that people
should say, like, ah, that's not I think that they
should say, that's not a thing I want happening in
my country. You know, just people run around committing larceny
(26:40):
or grand theft or anything like that, and it can
be dangerous. We have the Sean Taylor situation, right. I
think that people should be able to look at that
and say, like, ay, as an American, even if you
have more stuff than somebody else. You deserve to have
that protection. You deserve to feel.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Safe, safety and that peace of mind that I can
just sit in my house or go to the go
to the damn grocery store, and or go out of
town to go play a game, and my issue is
gonna be there when I get back.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Yeah, but for every one athlete that gets robbed, ninety
nine work trucks are getting their catalytic converters jacked in
the middle of their driveway. Like we got a massive
issue in this country of people just stealing shit, right,
and now we have these like Chilean gang, Central American
gangs coming here. They don't care. This isn't their community,
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this isn't their athletes that they need to protect. And
so you know, they're going around breaking into Joe Burrow's
house and posing in Chief's gear, you know, which is
what you talked about on that video, Like these guys
are just going around taking jewelry, taking cars and stuff
like that, and you say, like, all right, well you
(27:54):
got to be a little bit less flashy on social media.
The problem for collegiate athletes is they're supposed to be
It's the point of the nil benefits that they get
is that they capitalize on their skill set and popularity
to be a walking billboard for capitalism. The whole point
of Carson Beck having these cars is to convince you
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that you need one too.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Yep. That's literally the wrong people.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
And they're going and getting there.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Hey, you know what, you're you're right cars. I do
need that car, and and I mean that car, not
not I need that style of car. No, no, no,
I need that car. I'm going to go get that
one from you.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
And I feel bad because these college town like well,
Miami not a college town, Coral Gable's not not known
as a college town. But you know that when you
are a walking billboard for capitalism and you're not necessarily
flashing your well, but you got to show your stuff off.
You're expected to be a commercial for the stuff that
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you've been entrusted with. So when you're doing that and
you got like people got to get smart. You should
post the day after you're in a place, yep, because
that's what that's.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Why I do that now. I do that now on
some level where I later post a lot. Yes, yeah,
if I if I'm out of town, usually not posted
about it until I get back from out of town.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Do you should see how horrified my wife was when
I explained to her what Florida's basketball coach was being
investigated for, which is using location settings to uh to
be in the same area as some young college co eds.
Now I think he was not found responsible for way
what oh you didn't. Okay, So University of Florida, which
(29:56):
is like a top ten team this year, they're basketball coach,
was investigated for using Instagram's location settings to be in
the same place at the same time as some top
tier co eds at University of Florida, and the student
newspaper broke that he was under investigation for it. I
think ultimately he was found innocent. But I'm explaining this
(30:19):
to my wife and she's like, wait, you can do what.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Wait that's what I'm thinking. You can do what? Hold on,
let me go on my Instagram right right?
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Wait, okay, so I'm about to create some stalkers. So
if you do not use this information for nefarious purposes,
use it to protect yourself, use to protect your family.
That's my disclaimer. So when you are on Instagram, okay,
and you let's say you're looking at somebody's stories and
they're a famous person. Okay, And let's say that they're
(30:50):
at Dave and Busters and they location tag David Busters.
If you tap on that location, you can view anybody
who tagged themselves in Davenbuster's stories, or if it's somebody
at the Grand Canyon, or if it's somebody Yellowstone National Park,
or if it's somebody at a Louis Vuitton store. So
(31:11):
like with my kids, every once in a while, I
tag the town that I live in, like when I'm
out at a park or something like that, like, oh,
it's great to live in ex town. Right. If somebody
follows me and then click on that location, it'll bring
up the story, it'll bring up the posts of anybody
who posted geo tagged from that location, and it'll bring
up any of the public stories. So athletes are incentivized
(31:35):
to not lock their accounts down, not privatize their accounts down.
So if an athlete is in a movie theater and
they location tag that movie theater, if they have an
NIL deal, if they post it while they're there, then
someone's gonna know one of two things, where they're at
and where they're not at. And that's what these games
(31:55):
have been using, is not the information of where you're at,
but where you're not at. They broke into Joe Burrow's
home when he was playing.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
They broke because you because you are one hundred sure
Joe Burrow and probably everybody associated with the business of
Joe Burrow is at their state, especially if it's a
home game.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Yes, and a lot of NFL players they'll have like
security or they'll have video feeds or something like that.
And that's how some of these guys got caught. Maybe
they didn't have security at their home. Joe Burrow had
a woman at his house.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Story.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
But yeah, but for these college kids, a lot of
them don't have security, you know. And so and if
you have money and you're in college and you're not
a freshman anymore, you're sophomore or beyond, you're probably in
off campus housing. So not only you have to worry
about like, hey, what friends are you bringing around, you
got to worry about when when everybody knows your schedule.
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And if you're an SEC player and you play for
Georgia and you're on the road at Mississippi State and
you live in off campus housing, what's the stop one
of these roving gangs from coming to Athens going to
off campus housing posing as a gardener because that's what
they've done, posing is a delivery man because that's what
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they've done, and going in and jacking your chain or
your grill or your whip like whatever, there's not And
so the NFL issued a memo the NCAA is probably
going to have to do the same soon to just like, hey,
not only you have money, you're advertising that you have money.
Your schedule is online, it's not hard to find out
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where you live. You got to protect your assets.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
And here's a pro tip for everybody, regardless whether you're athlete, anybody.
Everybody knows that they should get home. Okay, So regardless
of whether you are a college athlete or just a
regular person. Pro tip here, get Renter's insurance. It is
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extremely cheap, extremely cheap, but it was the best piece
of advice I got when I was a college Like,
you're probably gonna be paying like twelve bucks a month.
I know you're a poor college college student. Or if
you're just a regular person and you don't feel like
I don't really have anything valuable, listen, pay your twelve
bucks a month. Pay something happens. Execute your insurance because
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it'll save you the pain and heartache of that. So
from my uncle George to you.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
Guys, find out find any mom and pop insurers in
your area, go to them and see if you can
exchange the rate of Renters insurance for representing their company.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Like, this is dang it, Ralph, you know how just thought.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
About starting an insurance company.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
My kid doesn't have Renters insurance right now, I gotta
got hold on. We got to stop this damn show
to make sure boy gets some damn Renter's insurance right now.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
I learned the hard way, man. I got carjacked in
twenty sixteen and all my camera equipment was in my car.
And I got a check from the insurance company for
the car, and I was like, well what about my camera?
And they were like, that's Renters insurance and I didn't
have it.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
So I was out two thousand bucks.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Yep. All right. Next thing up, lawsuits are happening, So
there the last chance you participants are suing Netflix. Ralph
has this story.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
I do. I don't know how I feel about it,
and I'm really curious to get your take. I'm gonna
read the Zach Barnett article from football scoop because it
was the most in depth one that I could find
right now. And so here we go. Six members of
East Mississippi Community College, the football team that was the
subject of the first two seasons of the hit Netflix
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series Last Chance You have fought the lawsuit against the
streaming giant, the school, Condon Entertainment, the show's director, and
the NJCAA over their portrayal in the series and their
lack of compensation for what they say was forced participation.
And I think that's the most interesting part of this
lawsuit because they're alleging that their reputation took a hit,
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that they're having a hard time getting jobs now, and
ultimately that they were not fairly compensated. But the thing
that they think is like the thing that would win
them a settlement in this lawsuit is I guess they're
claiming that if they had not agreed to be part
of the TV show, that they would have been kicked
off the team. So the players, you might recognize some
of the names, John Franklin, IID okay, Ronald Allie. Oh
(36:43):
we're talking football, Yeah yeah, last time to the East
Mississippi seasons the first two years. Okay, I think Ronald
Allie was probably one of the big stars of the show,
and then John Franklin the third had been a bounce
back from Auburn, or he might have ended up at Auburn,
but they both hit the NFL. But other people, Tim Bonner,
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Isaiah Wright, DeAndre Johnson, CJ. Reveis they are all in
on this lawsuit, and what they're saying is they weren't
given the proper amount of time to review the contracts
that they signed. They were threatened with being expelled from
the team if they didn't participate on the show and
they didn't receive a cut of the merchandise at the
community called sold following the show and right, Ollie and
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Franklin also alleged that their reputations were damaged after being
portrayed in a false light. I don't know if you
remember this, but I think Ronald Ollie is the one
who straight up asked a college coach to pay him
under the table on camera.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
So, but as far as their reputations being damaged, last
chance you the entire premise of the show was that
these are all players with like limited capital as far
as their reputation goes.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
Yeah, or that they you know, academically struggled, had some
families like anything. So first of all, the reputation thing
absolutely not. Now they do have. Now you can be
edited a certain way where you look like a jerk. Right,
Oh yeah, so I understand how TV works and all
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of that stuff, so that can absolutely happen. But here
is where I do think that they are that they
may have some grievance, not necessarily legally, but especially for
the first season of Last Chance You, because this is
how it works in reality television. Your first season. So
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I go, let's say that you start out on the
Housewives franchise. You're gonna be paid about ten thousand dollars
per episode. Like this is real life stuff like this
is not made up. This is for like a regular jointee,
not in for celebrity joints, Like if a regular person joints,
You're gonna be paid about ten thousand dollars an episode.
If you get picked up the next season, you're gonna
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be making about twenty thousand dollars an episode. Third season,
you're gonna be making about one hundred thousand plus per episode.
You can be making up to a million dollars per
episode if you are if you turn into one of
the most popular people on the show. And with Last
Chance You being that these players weren't on for multiple seasons,
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it was the franchise that grew. So no, you weren't
gonna be paid a lot your first season because it's
essentially a trial and you don't make money from it
like that. And the people that made it didn't make
money like that from the first season. They made more
money the second season. And I bet you they paid
the players more the second season. So that's kind of
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how it works. And this is probably why we're not
seeing Last Chance You anymore right now? Is wait? Good?
Speaker 2 (39:58):
This is this is twenty fifteen team twenty sixteen. I know,
were the players even allowed to be compensated, wouldn't that
have affected their eligibility?
Speaker 1 (40:08):
Ooh, that's a good point, Ralph, that's a good point,
and exactly, And and I would imagine there had to
be some legal restrictions on this because you couldn't use
your nil or anything. So like, yes, I would, being
that you brought up that point, I need my coins,
I do, I do.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
Okay, So I was gonna save this for last but
I want you to guess what do you think the
monetary ask is from this group of players and their
legal representation.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
Oh shit, bro, it's something outrageous.
Speaker 2 (40:43):
Oh, thirty million, thirty million.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
Dollars for for how many people.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
Six for just the twenty fifteen season of the show.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
Yeah all right, yeah, yeah, I get it.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
There is that. I mean, they're just asking for a
settlement or they're trying to create a situation with Discovery
where they have to turn over the financials.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
Yeah, show the figure out what actually they were going
to ask for a number that Like when when people
want money from lawsuits and all that stuff, they don't
ask for the amount of money they actually want. They
ask for the amount of money that will make you
settle for like three million dollars and they'll be like, okay,
(41:32):
we'll we'll all take three hundred thousand and go away. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
What I wonder about is if their ability to even
reach any type of settlement will be limited by the
fact that all of these players have probably given ten
dozen interviews on their experience with Last Chance You, and
my guess is most of them talked about it in
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a semi positive light.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
Yeah, I've never heard anything about the players from Last
Chance you talking about it publicly being a negative experience
until right now. So my guess is probably in the
best interest of one of these parties because they named Netflix.
I mean, so I've been sued before. I've been sued before,
and the person who sued me named Yahoo in the lawsuit.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
Are you serious?
Speaker 2 (42:30):
Yeah, like like Yahoo dot com, like the billion dollar company,
because they figured like somebody would just want to be like,
all right, go away.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
It was ultimately dropped, But my guess is naming Netflix.
Condon asked all these people, is this a pretty wide
ranging money grab situation? Because at the end of the day,
lawyer is going to take half. Governments can take half
of that. So you get your thirty million. You're talking
about maybe one point five take home for each of
these six players.
Speaker 1 (43:04):
Yeah, exactly, exactly. There's no way they're getting thirty million.
There's no way they're getting millions from this. It didn't
take thirty million dollars to make them. Like here's the
thing that people don't understand about Netflix stuff. Is that Netflix.
So like, let's say I make last chance you Netflix
pays me a fee to license it to them, or
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they outright by it. It wasn't gonna be for thirty
million dollars. That's what I'm saying, Like, there's no way
that there was a uh.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
Well, no show on Earth unless it comes with a
big director and a big actor and it's like ordered
by the actual streaming service. The concept is ordered, not
the actual show. Nobody makes money in season one, Yeah, exactly.
So they're asking for money from seasons two through five
plus the basketball ones. Yeah for what happened in season one.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
Yes, ain't no way. Yeah yeah, all right. The next
thing up, mister Ralph, this one. I don't think that
people thought that this was going to do. Yeah, I
don't think that this is what people wanted to do.
(44:22):
Well when they voted for President Trump and they knew
that that you were going to be kicking people out
of the country. I don't think that they meant because
because you've seen those those dudes that that they've been
they've been going to the website of people who've been
detained by Ice and they're like, hold on, hold up, no, no, no,
(44:42):
not her, send her back, she can she can stay.
Speaker 2 (44:47):
That's my nanny from Uruguay.
Speaker 1 (44:49):
Yeah, and the other ones are like no, no, no, no,
not the not the punters. Who the hell are we
gonna have put the damn football. So punters are having
their what their visas and work stuff like all jacked
up now, so some of them may end up having
to leave.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
Yes, that so that's part of That's part of what's
happening right now, is that, like, if you are importing
labor of any kind, including college football, things are going
to get a little more difficult than than they've been
in the past. But the real thing going on right
now with with the Australia to America punter pipeline is
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that some of these dudes already went to college, which
means their eligibility clock already started. So the the scandal
isn't so much the idea that we're not going to
be able to import talent. The scandal is that some
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of these teams that imported talent and got guys that
were completely out of eligibility. So there was a seven
month investigation conducted by Fox twenty nine in San Antonio,
a local television station in San Antonio, Texas. They investigated
the pipeline for kickers and punters from Australia into college
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football programs and they ended up finding out that, like
some of these guys, they were lied about, you know,
like the way that some handlers lie about a minor
league baseball player's age.
Speaker 1 (46:41):
Yes, they were.
Speaker 2 (46:43):
Lied about about whether or not they actually started university
in Australia. Because some of these Australian punters they are
like twenty eight thirty years old.
Speaker 1 (46:51):
Yes, yeah, yeah, these are grown as punters and they're
getting groomed out there. So here, here's the thing, Ralph,
is that people don't always factor in that all of that,
the political things out in the world are going to
factor into their their sports. I want an Australia, I
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want a I want a good punter at Oregon, and
I want a good punt if I were an NFL,
if I had an NFL team like that, I want
the best punter available. And if they got to come
from Australia, so be it, let him in. I will
lobby on that individual person's behalf. But that's the issue,
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is that people want these individual exceptions for the things
that matter most in their life, and that's not how
it works. Be Like I love my nanny from like
like like you said, I love my nanny from Uruguay.
She's a good person and all this stuff, and there's
been so much disinformation and misinformation talking about these that
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undocumented people. They're like, oh my god, they're sucking from
the and this is this, and yes there are people
from here and there, from other countries that are sucking
from the system. But the reality is they paid over
ninety billion dollars in taxes last year.
Speaker 2 (48:09):
What I'm just saying so at the heart of this
is an organization called Pro Kick Australia. So just give
you a couple of examples of some of the stuff
that they've done, pretty run of the mill fraud. In
one case, an athlete's real transcript from Australian school showed
failing grades. However the transcript submitted for NCAA eligibility had
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significantly higher grades. There's one student that that I think
had this said. There was a kid that actually outed himself.
They sat down, he sat down with his advisor and said,
you need to take these classes in these classes, and
the guy responded, I already took that at university. And
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the college was like, what you've already gone to college.
Speaker 1 (49:00):
Bro, No, no, no, oh my mm hmm, just keep
your mouth shut. Fam.
Speaker 2 (49:10):
So I guess one of the complaints was I bet
you anything. I bet you anything. Because it's very weird
that a television station in San Antonio is the one
that uncovered an international scandal. My guess is somebody who
is a punter handler in the United States tipped off,
like handed, everything that these reporters need directly to.
Speaker 1 (49:32):
Yeah, they're like like the John Carney kicking school or something.
It's like, you ain't gonna keep messing up our players.
Speaker 2 (49:40):
Get Yeah the hell, I'm gonna read you a quote
from the story, right, So there's a guy named Mike McCabe,
and my guess is Mike McCabe was maybe known to
this reporter before they started the investigation, because here's a
quote that Mike McCabe gave. Renowned Special Teams coach Mike
mccaby voiced frustration over pro Kicks recruitment practices and their
impact on the US market. The punting market in the
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United States has dropped fifty four percent, said Mike McCabe.
Speaker 1 (50:07):
H what the punting market. But okay, I.
Speaker 2 (50:12):
Guess just guys you get from the United States.
Speaker 1 (50:16):
Yeah, or just the amount of scholarships that have gone
to people from foreign you know, foreign born.
Speaker 2 (50:26):
Yeah, yes, this is this is literal like they took
our jobs. Yes right, this isn't like jobs Americans don't
want to do.
Speaker 1 (50:36):
No, this is jobs Americans do want to do. Other
people are just doing them better.
Speaker 2 (50:40):
Yeah. This isn't this isn't picking, it's kicking. So yeah, anyway,
shout out to everybody who's got a fraudulent thirty two
year old Australian punter. I want one all right anyway.
Oregon punts like three times every four games.
Speaker 1 (50:59):
Hey, when you and you need them, you need them
just like kickers. Chaudre Sanders has dropped some new music.
Why do you seem exasperated? Why are you mad at
the quarterbacks? Why are you mad at Why are you
mad at you?
Speaker 2 (51:15):
I'm mad at myself? Why I'm mad? Because when I
hear new Chadors Sanders music just dropped. When I hear
that sentence, there's like there's like a boomer Republican in me,
(51:37):
Like it just wants to come out.
Speaker 1 (51:38):
It's like raw, it's perfect time.
Speaker 2 (51:44):
Yeah, I don't know what it is.
Speaker 1 (51:46):
Let me see you do to shador man. Let me
see you do the shr door.
Speaker 2 (51:51):
You see him up close and to the student body. Okay,
So I don't know what it is. Uh, it doesn't
bother me. I love my kids, musicians, my wife's musician.
It doesn't really take anything away from your life to
be involved in in music. It's it's great. It's a
(52:13):
good thing. Uh Leangelo Ball just got got some money
for for dropping a hit. Ye I cover Arizona State.
I mean Edmund Boutang, Calin Blage, Manny Wilkins, Samson, Sakachi,
Levi Sterling, all guys who put on a helmet for
Arizona State. They went in to do music after football.
(52:38):
It does It doesn't bother me at all. I still
remember that terrible, terrible music that Kobe Bryant was dropping
early in his career. Wow, that never bothered me.
Speaker 1 (52:48):
Yea.
Speaker 2 (52:50):
I guess it's just that we're like, we're inching up
on the draft and I'm pre exhausted by some of
the stuff that's going to be said about snort Sanders.
Speaker 1 (53:01):
Listen, I can't wait. I'm actually starting to feel like
Cam Wored's gonna be the number one pick. But that's
for where I feel the momentum is going. But that's
whole other thing. But you guys, though that is unafraid
show college football apostles.
Speaker 2 (53:16):
Give an opinion. I'm just the angry white guy at
the end of the podcast.
Speaker 1 (53:21):
Listen, I'm just not a fan of bad music. So
you know, one of those if you don't.
Speaker 2 (53:26):
Have anything nice to say, you're not gonna say anything
at all.
Speaker 1 (53:29):
Yeah, man, listen, listen. I hope his music reaches its
target audience.
Speaker 2 (53:35):
If your son. If your son, what if he gets
the starting job at UC Davis and like three games
in he's playing, Well, he comes to you and he's like,
I got studio time. What would you say to your
own kid?
Speaker 1 (53:50):
Oh, I'd be like Doug. He's he's already making music
in his free time. So I I'm dead serious. He's
he's like engineering, like uh beats and making beats and
all of this stuff, and it's in its free time.
So like, yes, Ralph, I'm going to have nothing to
(54:11):
say except for play me my theme music.
Speaker 2 (54:16):
Okay. Well, what if his lyrics were about his Maybok
or whatever.
Speaker 1 (54:21):
Oh? Oh, he knows that I am not a garbage
lyrics guy. He knows I will straight up to him. Son.
The beats amazing, I mean, but I don't think he
wants to be a rapper, Like I don't think he
wants to be a musician in that way. Like I
think he really likes making beats and all of that stuff.
So just make a beats, sell them, sell them for
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a lot. But but if his lyrics were trash, I
would tell him. I'd be like, son, have something to say,
read read a damn book.
Speaker 2 (54:51):
All right, now that I got you on record, you
can end the show.
Speaker 1 (54:54):
All right, you guys, I'm George Rice or he's Ralph
Ampson College Football Pozzles. Peace out, Catch you guys. Next episode.
Unafraid Show College Football Apostles. I'm George Reister, He's Ralph Emsden,
and we got to talk today about the Big Ten
and the SEC taking over the college football Playoff. Whether
we like it, do we love it, or do we
absolutely hate it? Carson Beck now is now a part
(00:23):
of getting robbed. This has happened in professional athletics, but
now it's happening to college athletes and people are blaming
him for it. What Shadur Sanders the kid drops new
music just ahead of the draft. Are we listening to it?
And is it a banger? And of course there's a
scandal going on, but this one is about assy punters
(00:47):
and their place in football altogether and Last Chance You
participants are suing Netflix. That and so much more here
on The Unafraid Show's College Football Apostles. Make sure that
you like, subscribe, get notifications, tell a friend about the show,
and most importantly share. Let's get to it, Ralph, We're
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gonna start with the Big Ten and the SEC taking
over the College Football Playoff. I could not hate this anymore.
This goes against the spirit of college football. This goes
against everything that we love about college football. And if
you don't know what's happening, let me kind of give
you the recap of it. So, starting in twenty twenty six,
(01:45):
with the playoff expansion, the big ten in the SEC
essentially negotiated their own backdoor deal that in twenty twenty
six they get to be the lone people who decide
what happens for the future of the playoffs in terms
of expansion. Who gets in all of this stuff, Like, yes,
they're supposedly is going to have to be a vote
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on it, but the way it's built that they're going
to have the say so of what happens. And also
there are changes that they want to make for twenty
twenty five, which is that instead of the conference champions
getting buys, that they go in order of rankings, that
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that who get the buys. We'll discuss that as well.
But from twenty twenty six on, Ralph, this is everything
that I hate about the game that I love, which
is college football, which is the powers and the money
dictating everything about it because the SEC is dangling is
(02:50):
carried around. Hey guys, we'll play nine conference games. We'll
play nine conference games, and we'll give you on top
of that, On top of that, guys, for your additional
one hundred million dollars, you we're gonna slash the price
and give it to you for thirty three million, and
we're gonna add in a scheduling agreement with the Big Ten.
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But the nine conference games is what you've been wanting.
We're gonna give it to you. But in exchange for that,
we need and expanded playoffs to not twelve, not fourteen,
but sixteen games for you, sixteen teams for you the consumer,
and all we want in return, it's just a minimum
(03:35):
of four teams in. That's all we want. Let's expand
the playoffs, not for the most merit based of teams
to get in, but just so we make sure that
we have enough teams in. We're gonna give you extra spots.
You guys want expansion, We're gonna give you expansion, but
we're not gonna give you. But in exchange for that expansion,
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we're actually we actually you want to take all the
expanded spots. I hate this route.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Are you sure you hate it?
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Yes? I hate it with the power of a thousand sons.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
All right, I'm just making sure because you and I
have a lot of conversations off air about boxing.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Okay, I'm nervous.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
We have a lot of conversations, and you have told
me quite a few times that you don't have a
problem with the fact that Floyd Mayweather was so big.
Did he got the handpick everybody? Did he got to
hand pick the dates? This is the This is the
to the to the rich, go the spoils, or whether
to the victor go to spoils. You you get to
(04:43):
the point where you can lobby enough for your own
self interest and you can take over an entire organization
and you can just use it to serve yourself.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Oh, I pArg you.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
This is the thing you just described is everything I've
complained about about Bob aram the Big ten and Floyd
Mayweather the SEC for years, and you told me I
was wrong, ral And now I hear you talking about
college football kind of in the same way. I'm just wondering,
did something change? Do you want to talk about box?
(05:15):
I know it's college football puzzles, but I'm just wondering
if you see the connection that I see.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Ralph. I'm going to use your example and raise your example,
flip it on you, and you're gonna be like, God, dang,
what I wasn't prepared for this for him to wiggle
out of this box. All right, Ralph, So you bring
up fantastic points about boxing. You are one hundred percent right.
(05:43):
What has happened to boxing?
Speaker 2 (05:48):
It's it's falling off. Like we all know two or
three boxers.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Bingo bingo, bengo bongo. Do you know what's going on
in the UFC, the other combat sport? The commissioner which
college football needs, which I've active, which I've advocated for.
The commissioner consistently puts up the best fights. He doesn't
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allow brinky dink bs scheduling like Ohio State did last year,
like Georgia did the last time that they won a
national championship, like Michigan did, where you are a power
school and you play three gimmes, three layups, three nonpout
and Power five or Power four conference teams in your
(06:35):
non conference. So I love college football. I want college
football to be the number one thing in the entire universe.
But it won't happen with stuff like this. It is boxing, Ralph.
It will go the same way as boxing. If you
let the powers that be control and disseminate everything, all
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you're going to get is Big ten Champion, SEC Champion,
Big ten Champion SEC Big ten, Big ten, Big ten, SCC,
SCCSCC ACC, Big twelve will never win a championship again
because and this is the problem with college football route
is that there is a hoarding of power and it
is not for the benefit of the sport. It is
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for the benefit of those of the people in power.
This is no different than what is going on in
the world today and life any of that is. That's
the thing, honestly, that makes the CAP the NFL so great.
The Dallas Cowboys are by far the most valuable franchise.
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They have no better chance of winning than the Tampa
Bay Buccaneers or the or the Green Bay Packers, who
have no true owner. The fans own the team, but
they don't even get an equity split. There's no rouph.
There is no team in the NFL that has no
(08:06):
hope besides the Chicago Bears, and it's their own fault.
And in college football, the fact that you have teams
with no hope and now with the Big ten in
SEC taken over, there is no hope for anybody else.
It is the disaster. This will ruin the sport of
(08:28):
college football, Did I wiggle out of the box good
enough for you?
Speaker 2 (08:34):
I think you made a lot of really good points.
I think what I was looking for was like something
that rhymes with mouth, was flight about that. The conversation
will continue at a later date, all right.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
So I do not think that this is good for anybody.
This is why college football needs a commissioner, because college
football needs parody. And you're listening to this from somebody
whose team does not operate in parody at all. My
Oregon Ducks are. They have pushed their way into the
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upper echelon of college football with money, with access, with winning,
with like a combination of all of them. Right, it
is take what Iowa State has done right, and you
add it because they've done an excellent job building a program,
everything else. That's what Oregon did, except for you add
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in Nike, a lot of marketing, a cool factor, like
all of the things that Iowa does not have, Oregon has.
So they've done the football part and they've done the
marketing part. So that's like put throwing gasoline on a fire.
So you're I'm saying this as somebody who has benefited
(10:05):
from this, And yes, I do know that what I'm
asking for means that sometimes some periods, Oregon's gonna have
a rough spot. I believe that that is better for
the world of college football, that Vanderbilt may win a
championship or Rutgers may win a championship than the direction
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that it's going.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
I understand, I understand what you're saying, and I wholeheartedly
agree with you. But part of this negotiation right now,
there is some logic to receding.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Yes, I don't. I got no problem with tweaking the system.
Like with tweaking the.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
My issue with receding is it that it ignores that
probably just seating is broken because so much much of
it is based on what somebody feels about a team
going into the preseason. And if you have a team
go eleven and one that didn't have a lot of
respect and doesn't have a schedule that a lot of
people respect, and you have a team that everyone expected
(11:14):
to go eleven and one go eleven and one those
two teams don't play each other, then it's very natural
for us to say team we expected to be great
is much better, deserves to be ranked much higher. And
that's because we do have a committee system. When it
comes to the rankings, I almost wish that and it's
(11:35):
never really talked about, but one of the drastic changes
that would be made to college football is it's fine
and dandy to have AP rankings, but there should be
a ranking structure that drops like six weeks into the
season that is the actual one that we go by.
That's all because it so much of it has to
(11:57):
do with what you talked about, the branding, the mar ma,
getting the expectations. In the same way that you tell
people they have to lobby for the Heisman. A lot
of work for what people think of you going into
next season is done the season before the season before that.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
This is why the Unafraid Show college football rankings are
the best rankings on the planet, because yes, we come
out with a preseason poll, but then what what happens
as new information comes and in the beginning of the season,
what do what do people say about the pole in
the beginning of the season? Ralph likes week one, week two,
(12:32):
week week three meaningless? Yeah, what what what the the
Unaffraid Show rankings? They're like, oh, those are crazy? What
are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (12:41):
How they're comparing it to what they know and and
they're comparing it to expectations and Vegas odds and everything
like that. All you can really deal with is how
a team plays and looks and the time capital of
the season.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
We're in, yes, and when in if Ohio State or
Alabama or Georgia or Clemson or any other name brand
team starts out the season with three layup games, Like,
you don't play a Power five given I don't care
if you win by eighty points a game, You're not
(13:18):
going to be number one in the post. Just not,
especially when other teams have beaten Power four teams that
should not be so. And this is the problem with
the voting is that it is based upon like they're
projecting out what they think they're like, they beat them
(13:39):
by seventy five points three weeks in a in a row. Yes,
they didn't play any any teams that were competition for them,
but they're ranked high into recruiting rankings. This team we
know is gonna be good, and yes, they may be good,
but you should not be ranking them at a particular
spot until they have proven that they should be there.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
I'm with you one hundred percent. There was a time
last year when a five and six Kansas legitimately was
one of the best twenty five teams in the country,
but they were five and six, and so, like, you
should have a system that kind of looks at where
somebody's at. You brought up UFC. They have that. You know,
(14:25):
there's a fighter that I followed in the UFC. His
name is Matt Brown, and he would consistently be ranked
amongst one of the best competitors in the entire UFC,
even though his lifetime record was like eighteen and seventeen,
because he's being judged based on like what he's capable
(14:47):
of right now, yeah, right, And so like, there's some
teams genuinely in November Kansas was one of the top
twenty five teams in the country. And we know this
because they beat three top twenty five in the country.
And so you should you should be able to look
at things like that. But it's hard. It's hard for
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college football to get out of what it's always been,
which is reputation and expectation.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
And people are not going to put their jobs at risk.
Think about if you're Tony Pettiti with the Big Ten,
if you're a Greg Sankie at the SEC, not only
will your job potentially vanish, but your job will become
less powerful. Even if it doesn't vanish, your job will
(15:36):
become significantly less powerful. You will have less staff, less influence,
all of that stuff, and nobody's going to volunteer for that.
That's why you have to have This is where the
presidents of the universities have to be above the athletic directors,
above the coaches, above the commitment like that. Those are
(15:57):
the people that hire the commissioners. They have to be
academic people at that point in time and say, hmm,
I know that we don't understand what's best for sports
on a regular, you know, intricate basis, but we do
believe because because there are more have notts than are
(16:19):
our halves. In college football, there are more have nots,
as in teams that can win a national cannot win
a national championship versus teams that can win a national championship.
And these are in power conferences too. So if you
are those teams, why would you not say we need
(16:40):
a place where we can be competitive and not a
place where we can just make the most money. Because
you can make the most money and have no shot.
Rutgers has no shot of winning a national championship any time.
If the current system stays the same and there is
a perject that will not happen. And we got a
(17:03):
video coming out talking about that twenty and a half
million dollars because people have rouph foolishly believed that this
twenty and a half million dollar salary cap for college
football is actually a real thing. It reminds me of
the Wolf of Wall Street when Matthew McConaughey is sitting there,
(17:23):
like in there at the dinner. He's like, he was like,
it's for gazy, it's for gatzi. It doesn't exist. It's
vapor doesn't exist. Because the schools are going to, like
Georgia just said, they're keeping their nil collective for third
party deals, so they are going to and what schools
(17:47):
are going to do, They are going to skate by
with the Title nine stuff because instead of paying Carson
back well over a million dollars like they did last year,
they'll pay Carson back from the collective, I mean from
the school like two hundred thousand dollars and then pay
other people twenty five and twenty five and then put
(18:08):
a lot more of that money into tennis, into basketball,
into rowing into all of that stuff and then have
the nil continue to collective, continue to do the heavy lifting. Yep, yep,
(18:28):
grow up, Peter Pan sisten this this is not h
and I hate to be the bear of bad news,
but this is fake This is fake news. This is disinformation,
This is disingenuine. This is not honest. And a lot
of people don't want to say the quiet part out loud,
(18:50):
but this is why you come to the Unafraid Show,
because you're one of us and we are unafraid.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
What's the So, what's the boogeyman here? As I always
do this in my house. That's a big thing is
when anybody is worrying, I always say, what's the what's
the worst case scenario? Let's name it. Let's name it
so we know what to prepare for. Is the worst
case scenario? The Big twelve in ACC are like, all right,
(19:16):
well then we're just not going to schedule you guys. Yeah, yeah,
you with a completely fractured system. Yeah, Big twelve ACC
because like there's still teams in the ACC trying to leave. Yes, yeah,
North Carolina University of North Carolina is shelling a little
(19:38):
bit of money here and there away every month for
like legal.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Fees, Ralph. And then think about this, right with the
ACC and the Big Twelve, the Big Ten, and the
SEC want to do away with the buys right for
conference champions that will never happen for twenty twenty five
(20:02):
because that creates an additional eight million dollars for those schools.
So Boise State their conference Mount West got an additional
eight million dollars. Same thing with the Big Twelve, Same
thing with the Oh sorry sorry but yeah, yeah, the
Big Twelve with Arizona State, so they got an additional
(20:24):
eight million dollars by getting passed through to the second
round of the playoff. Why would you give that up
when you know you're gonna get screwed on the back end.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Oh of course, yeah. And I mean and there's other
stuff going on too that only benefits certain schools. So
like Alabama and Georgia both passed legislation that nil money
collected by oh it's not tax college athletes doesn't isn't
subject to state tax. Illinois is trying to pass a
(20:56):
bill like that right now as well. And the only
reason that the state of Illinois is trying to pass
a bill like that is the guy that introduced the
bill is a graduate of University of Alabama, so he
gets it right. He's trying, he's trying to help out
the state, the state of Illinois. But it's that there
will there will always be some level of advantage to
(21:20):
certain schools. But I don't understand why those schools have
Conference commissioners walking around like they're the ones that are disadvantaged,
or they're the ones that are getting screwed, or they're
the ones that need extra protection. No, you just have
the resources to look out for yourself. The SEC and
the Big Ten are not getting screwed out of anything.
(21:45):
And if they have it bad anywhere, that means other
people have it worse.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
No one should be.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Worried about the SEC or the Big Ten for any reason.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Exactly. Yep, yep, you are right, bro that that that's
it's gross. Speaking of getting getting screwed, Carson Beck and
his girlfriend, who's it? Libby done?
Speaker 2 (22:12):
No, no, no, Libby dune is uh. I believe I
believe he's dating one of the.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Cast the Cavendar Twins.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Yes, yeah, yeah, maybe Haley out of Gilbert, Arizona. Shout
out the Cavendar.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
There there we go, bulldogs so we got something about this. Uh,
you guys can go check yesterday's Unafraid Show Daily Live
to hear about the other athletes that have been robbed. Well,
Carson Beck and the Cavendar twin that he's with have
(22:47):
now joined that list of Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelce, people
from the Milwaukee Bucks, all athletes all over the place
are being robbed by these by these gang rings. And
we're talking about Chilean gangs, other gangs from other places,
and just people just robbing their houses in general. I
(23:09):
remember that there was a time route where athletes were
protected people in the community where if you killed an
athlete or something like it was it was a no
no like gangs in terms of like they knew, like
stay away from these people, bro, Like it's going to
cost too much heat, you're gonna get investigations, then it's
(23:32):
gonna bother our organizations stay away from not even just athletes,
but all high profile people. Right. And there's still an
element of that in terms of organizations, right, but individual
people no longer have that same respect. And especially if
you're you know, like you know, like this ain't your
(23:55):
game or nothing, they're like this is opportunity, and Travis
Kelsey and uh and Patrick Mahomes are not people that
are like super showy, right, like they're they're not running
around looking like mister t with thirty gold chains on,
(24:16):
and or like Floyd Mayweather where he flaunts his wealth
like that's not it and where like a fifty cent
lyric he talks about somebody get getting robbed and he's like,
that's what you get for stunting on my block show off.
And so Carson Beck and his girlfriend there, they just
(24:38):
had three cars stolen, right A Carson Beck had what
his Lamborghini and what a Ben stolen?
Speaker 2 (24:48):
And uh yeah, and a Mercedes. And I believe he
had three cars stolen. One was found and we had
heard about his his first vehicle, the Lamborghini while he
was at Georgia. And it's very possible that some of
these are leases, not necessarily cars that he owns. But yeah,
(25:16):
and then it's Hannah Cavendar, not Haley my apologies, but
Hannah Cavender is somebody who you know Carson Beck. Most
people know Carson Beck from his time as Georgia's starting quarterback.
He's not he's not really on socials in the way
that Hannah and Haley Cavender are.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
No.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Hannah Cavender has a million followers on Instagram, probably more
on TikTok, yes, like a million. And there's also just
a Cavender Twins account that has another four hundred thousand followers,
and her sister's got like a million two. So like
(25:56):
they are, they are a walking billboard. And now that
one of the most famous college quarterbacks is dating one
of the most famous college basketball players, they make content together,
and so they're you gotta understand because I think a
lot of people are not going to feel sorry for
(26:18):
people with money who get robbed. That's just how it is. Like, yeah,
and I don't think anybody should. I don't think anybody
should feel sorry for them. I do think that people
should say, like, ah, that's not I think that they
should say, that's not a thing I want happening in
my country. You know, just people run around committing larceny
(26:40):
or grand theft or anything like that, and it can
be dangerous. We have the Sean Taylor situation, right. I
think that people should be able to look at that
and say, like, ay, as an American, even if you
have more stuff than somebody else. You deserve to have
that protection. You deserve to feel.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Safe, safety and that peace of mind that I can
just sit in my house or go to the go
to the damn grocery store, and or go out of
town to go play a game, and my issue is
gonna be there when I get back.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Yeah, but for every one athlete that gets robbed, ninety
nine work trucks are getting their catalytic converters jacked in
the middle of their driveway. Like we got a massive
issue in this country of people just stealing shit, right,
and now we have these like Chilean gang, Central American
gangs coming here. They don't care. This isn't their community,
(27:34):
this isn't their athletes that they need to protect. And
so you know, they're going around breaking into Joe Burrow's
house and posing in Chief's gear, you know, which is
what you talked about on that video, Like these guys
are just going around taking jewelry, taking cars and stuff
like that, and you say, like, all right, well you
(27:54):
got to be a little bit less flashy on social media.
The problem for collegiate athletes is they're supposed to be
It's the point of the nil benefits that they get
is that they capitalize on their skill set and popularity
to be a walking billboard for capitalism. The whole point
of Carson Beck having these cars is to convince you
(28:15):
that you need one too.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Yep. That's literally the wrong people.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
And they're going and getting there.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Hey, you know what, you're you're right cars. I do
need that car, and and I mean that car, not
not I need that style of car. No, no, no,
I need that car. I'm going to go get that
one from you.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
And I feel bad because these college town like well,
Miami not a college town, Coral Gable's not not known
as a college town. But you know that when you
are a walking billboard for capitalism and you're not necessarily
flashing your well, but you got to show your stuff off.
You're expected to be a commercial for the stuff that
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you've been entrusted with. So when you're doing that and
you got like people got to get smart. You should
post the day after you're in a place, yep, because
that's what that's.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Why I do that now. I do that now on
some level where I later post a lot. Yes, yeah,
if I if I'm out of town, usually not posted
about it until I get back from out of town.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Do you should see how horrified my wife was when
I explained to her what Florida's basketball coach was being
investigated for, which is using location settings to uh to
be in the same area as some young college co eds.
Now I think he was not found responsible for way
what oh you didn't. Okay, So University of Florida, which
(29:56):
is like a top ten team this year, they're basketball coach,
was investigated for using Instagram's location settings to be in
the same place at the same time as some top
tier co eds at University of Florida, and the student
newspaper broke that he was under investigation for it. I
think ultimately he was found innocent. But I'm explaining this
(30:19):
to my wife and she's like, wait, you can do what.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Wait that's what I'm thinking. You can do what? Hold on,
let me go on my Instagram right right?
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Wait, okay, so I'm about to create some stalkers. So
if you do not use this information for nefarious purposes,
use it to protect yourself, use to protect your family.
That's my disclaimer. So when you are on Instagram, okay,
and you let's say you're looking at somebody's stories and
they're a famous person. Okay, And let's say that they're
(30:50):
at Dave and Busters and they location tag David Busters.
If you tap on that location, you can view anybody
who tagged themselves in Davenbuster's stories, or if it's somebody
at the Grand Canyon, or if it's somebody Yellowstone National Park,
or if it's somebody at a Louis Vuitton store. So
(31:11):
like with my kids, every once in a while, I
tag the town that I live in, like when I'm
out at a park or something like that, like, oh,
it's great to live in ex town. Right. If somebody
follows me and then click on that location, it'll bring
up the story, it'll bring up the posts of anybody
who posted geo tagged from that location, and it'll bring
up any of the public stories. So athletes are incentivized
(31:35):
to not lock their accounts down, not privatize their accounts down.
So if an athlete is in a movie theater and
they location tag that movie theater, if they have an
NIL deal, if they post it while they're there, then
someone's gonna know one of two things, where they're at
and where they're not at. And that's what these games
(31:55):
have been using, is not the information of where you're at,
but where you're not at. They broke into Joe Burrow's
home when he was playing.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
They broke because you because you are one hundred sure
Joe Burrow and probably everybody associated with the business of
Joe Burrow is at their state, especially if it's a
home game.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Yes, and a lot of NFL players they'll have like
security or they'll have video feeds or something like that.
And that's how some of these guys got caught. Maybe
they didn't have security at their home. Joe Burrow had
a woman at his house.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Story.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
But yeah, but for these college kids, a lot of
them don't have security, you know. And so and if
you have money and you're in college and you're not
a freshman anymore, you're sophomore or beyond, you're probably in
off campus housing. So not only you have to worry
about like, hey, what friends are you bringing around, you
got to worry about when when everybody knows your schedule.
(32:50):
And if you're an SEC player and you play for
Georgia and you're on the road at Mississippi State and
you live in off campus housing, what's the stop one
of these roving gangs from coming to Athens going to
off campus housing posing as a gardener because that's what
they've done, posing is a delivery man because that's what
(33:11):
they've done, and going in and jacking your chain or
your grill or your whip like whatever, there's not And
so the NFL issued a memo the NCAA is probably
going to have to do the same soon to just like, hey,
not only you have money, you're advertising that you have money.
Your schedule is online, it's not hard to find out
(33:33):
where you live. You got to protect your assets.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
And here's a pro tip for everybody, regardless whether you're athlete, anybody.
Everybody knows that they should get home. Okay, So regardless
of whether you are a college athlete or just a
regular person. Pro tip here, get Renter's insurance. It is
(33:57):
extremely cheap, extremely cheap, but it was the best piece
of advice I got when I was a college Like,
you're probably gonna be paying like twelve bucks a month.
I know you're a poor college college student. Or if
you're just a regular person and you don't feel like
I don't really have anything valuable, listen, pay your twelve
bucks a month. Pay something happens. Execute your insurance because
(34:21):
it'll save you the pain and heartache of that. So
from my uncle George to you.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
Guys, find out find any mom and pop insurers in
your area, go to them and see if you can
exchange the rate of Renters insurance for representing their company.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Like, this is dang it, Ralph, you know how just thought.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
About starting an insurance company.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
My kid doesn't have Renters insurance right now, I gotta
got hold on. We got to stop this damn show
to make sure boy gets some damn Renter's insurance right now.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
I learned the hard way, man. I got carjacked in
twenty sixteen and all my camera equipment was in my car.
And I got a check from the insurance company for
the car, and I was like, well what about my camera?
And they were like, that's Renters insurance and I didn't
have it.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
So I was out two thousand bucks.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Yep. All right. Next thing up, lawsuits are happening, So
there the last chance you participants are suing Netflix. Ralph
has this story.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
I do. I don't know how I feel about it,
and I'm really curious to get your take. I'm gonna
read the Zach Barnett article from football scoop because it
was the most in depth one that I could find
right now. And so here we go. Six members of
East Mississippi Community College, the football team that was the
subject of the first two seasons of the hit Netflix
(35:55):
series Last Chance You have fought the lawsuit against the
streaming giant, the school, Condon Entertainment, the show's director, and
the NJCAA over their portrayal in the series and their
lack of compensation for what they say was forced participation.
And I think that's the most interesting part of this
lawsuit because they're alleging that their reputation took a hit,
(36:17):
that they're having a hard time getting jobs now, and
ultimately that they were not fairly compensated. But the thing
that they think is like the thing that would win
them a settlement in this lawsuit is I guess they're
claiming that if they had not agreed to be part
of the TV show, that they would have been kicked
off the team. So the players, you might recognize some
of the names, John Franklin, IID okay, Ronald Allie. Oh
(36:43):
we're talking football, Yeah yeah, last time to the East
Mississippi seasons the first two years. Okay, I think Ronald
Allie was probably one of the big stars of the show,
and then John Franklin the third had been a bounce
back from Auburn, or he might have ended up at Auburn,
but they both hit the NFL. But other people, Tim Bonner,
(37:05):
Isaiah Wright, DeAndre Johnson, CJ. Reveis they are all in
on this lawsuit, and what they're saying is they weren't
given the proper amount of time to review the contracts
that they signed. They were threatened with being expelled from
the team if they didn't participate on the show and
they didn't receive a cut of the merchandise at the
community called sold following the show and right, Ollie and
(37:29):
Franklin also alleged that their reputations were damaged after being
portrayed in a false light. I don't know if you
remember this, but I think Ronald Ollie is the one
who straight up asked a college coach to pay him
under the table on camera.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
So, but as far as their reputations being damaged, last
chance you the entire premise of the show was that
these are all players with like limited capital as far
as their reputation goes.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
Yeah, or that they you know, academically struggled, had some
families like anything. So first of all, the reputation thing
absolutely not. Now they do have. Now you can be
edited a certain way where you look like a jerk. Right,
Oh yeah, so I understand how TV works and all
(38:19):
of that stuff, so that can absolutely happen. But here
is where I do think that they are that they
may have some grievance, not necessarily legally, but especially for
the first season of Last Chance You, because this is
how it works in reality television. Your first season. So
(38:42):
I go, let's say that you start out on the
Housewives franchise. You're gonna be paid about ten thousand dollars
per episode. Like this is real life stuff like this
is not made up. This is for like a regular jointee,
not in for celebrity joints, Like if a regular person joints,
You're gonna be paid about ten thousand dollars an episode.
If you get picked up the next season, you're gonna
(39:04):
be making about twenty thousand dollars an episode. Third season,
you're gonna be making about one hundred thousand plus per episode.
You can be making up to a million dollars per
episode if you are if you turn into one of
the most popular people on the show. And with Last
Chance You being that these players weren't on for multiple seasons,
(39:28):
it was the franchise that grew. So no, you weren't
gonna be paid a lot your first season because it's
essentially a trial and you don't make money from it
like that. And the people that made it didn't make
money like that from the first season. They made more
money the second season. And I bet you they paid
the players more the second season. So that's kind of
(39:50):
how it works. And this is probably why we're not
seeing Last Chance You anymore right now? Is wait? Good?
Speaker 2 (39:58):
This is this is twenty fifteen team twenty sixteen. I know,
were the players even allowed to be compensated, wouldn't that
have affected their eligibility?
Speaker 1 (40:08):
Ooh, that's a good point, Ralph, that's a good point,
and exactly, And and I would imagine there had to
be some legal restrictions on this because you couldn't use
your nil or anything. So like, yes, I would, being
that you brought up that point, I need my coins,
I do, I do.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
Okay, So I was gonna save this for last but
I want you to guess what do you think the
monetary ask is from this group of players and their
legal representation.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
Oh shit, bro, it's something outrageous.
Speaker 2 (40:43):
Oh, thirty million, thirty million.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
Dollars for for how many people.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
Six for just the twenty fifteen season of the show.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
Yeah all right, yeah, yeah, I get it.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
There is that. I mean, they're just asking for a
settlement or they're trying to create a situation with Discovery
where they have to turn over the financials.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
Yeah, show the figure out what actually they were going
to ask for a number that Like when when people
want money from lawsuits and all that stuff, they don't
ask for the amount of money they actually want. They
ask for the amount of money that will make you
settle for like three million dollars and they'll be like, okay,
(41:32):
we'll we'll all take three hundred thousand and go away. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
What I wonder about is if their ability to even
reach any type of settlement will be limited by the
fact that all of these players have probably given ten
dozen interviews on their experience with Last Chance You, and
my guess is most of them talked about it in
(41:59):
a semi positive light.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
Yeah, I've never heard anything about the players from Last
Chance you talking about it publicly being a negative experience
until right now. So my guess is probably in the
best interest of one of these parties because they named Netflix.
I mean, so I've been sued before. I've been sued before,
and the person who sued me named Yahoo in the lawsuit.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
Are you serious?
Speaker 2 (42:30):
Yeah, like like Yahoo dot com, like the billion dollar company,
because they figured like somebody would just want to be like,
all right, go away.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
It was ultimately dropped, But my guess is naming Netflix.
Condon asked all these people, is this a pretty wide
ranging money grab situation? Because at the end of the day,
lawyer is going to take half. Governments can take half
of that. So you get your thirty million. You're talking
about maybe one point five take home for each of
these six players.
Speaker 1 (43:04):
Yeah, exactly, exactly. There's no way they're getting thirty million.
There's no way they're getting millions from this. It didn't
take thirty million dollars to make them. Like here's the
thing that people don't understand about Netflix stuff. Is that Netflix.
So like, let's say I make last chance you Netflix
pays me a fee to license it to them, or
(43:25):
they outright by it. It wasn't gonna be for thirty
million dollars. That's what I'm saying, Like, there's no way
that there was a uh.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
Well, no show on Earth unless it comes with a
big director and a big actor and it's like ordered
by the actual streaming service. The concept is ordered, not
the actual show. Nobody makes money in season one, Yeah, exactly.
So they're asking for money from seasons two through five
plus the basketball ones. Yeah for what happened in season one.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
Yes, ain't no way. Yeah yeah, all right. The next
thing up, mister Ralph, this one. I don't think that
people thought that this was going to do. Yeah, I
don't think that this is what people wanted to do.
(44:22):
Well when they voted for President Trump and they knew
that that you were going to be kicking people out
of the country. I don't think that they meant because
because you've seen those those dudes that that they've been
they've been going to the website of people who've been
detained by Ice and they're like, hold on, hold up, no, no, no,
(44:42):
not her, send her back, she can she can stay.
Speaker 2 (44:47):
That's my nanny from Uruguay.
Speaker 1 (44:49):
Yeah, and the other ones are like no, no, no, no,
not the not the punters. Who the hell are we
gonna have put the damn football. So punters are having
their what their visas and work stuff like all jacked
up now, so some of them may end up having
to leave.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
Yes, that so that's part of That's part of what's
happening right now, is that, like, if you are importing
labor of any kind, including college football, things are going
to get a little more difficult than than they've been
in the past. But the real thing going on right
now with with the Australia to America punter pipeline is
(45:38):
that some of these dudes already went to college, which
means their eligibility clock already started. So the the scandal
isn't so much the idea that we're not going to
be able to import talent. The scandal is that some
(45:58):
of these teams that imported talent and got guys that
were completely out of eligibility. So there was a seven
month investigation conducted by Fox twenty nine in San Antonio,
a local television station in San Antonio, Texas. They investigated
the pipeline for kickers and punters from Australia into college
(46:21):
football programs and they ended up finding out that, like
some of these guys, they were lied about, you know,
like the way that some handlers lie about a minor
league baseball player's age.
Speaker 1 (46:41):
Yes, they were.
Speaker 2 (46:43):
Lied about about whether or not they actually started university
in Australia. Because some of these Australian punters they are
like twenty eight thirty years old.
Speaker 1 (46:51):
Yes, yeah, yeah, these are grown as punters and they're
getting groomed out there. So here, here's the thing, Ralph,
is that people don't always factor in that all of that,
the political things out in the world are going to
factor into their their sports. I want an Australia, I
(47:14):
want a I want a good punter at Oregon, and
I want a good punt if I were an NFL,
if I had an NFL team like that, I want
the best punter available. And if they got to come
from Australia, so be it, let him in. I will
lobby on that individual person's behalf. But that's the issue,
(47:35):
is that people want these individual exceptions for the things
that matter most in their life, and that's not how
it works. Be Like I love my nanny from like
like like you said, I love my nanny from Uruguay.
She's a good person and all this stuff, and there's
been so much disinformation and misinformation talking about these that
(47:55):
undocumented people. They're like, oh my god, they're sucking from
the and this is this, and yes there are people
from here and there, from other countries that are sucking
from the system. But the reality is they paid over
ninety billion dollars in taxes last year.
Speaker 2 (48:09):
What I'm just saying so at the heart of this
is an organization called Pro Kick Australia. So just give
you a couple of examples of some of the stuff
that they've done, pretty run of the mill fraud. In
one case, an athlete's real transcript from Australian school showed
failing grades. However the transcript submitted for NCAA eligibility had
(48:33):
significantly higher grades. There's one student that that I think
had this said. There was a kid that actually outed himself.
They sat down, he sat down with his advisor and said,
you need to take these classes in these classes, and
the guy responded, I already took that at university. And
(48:54):
the college was like, what you've already gone to college.
Speaker 1 (49:00):
Bro, No, no, no, oh my mm hmm, just keep
your mouth shut. Fam.
Speaker 2 (49:10):
So I guess one of the complaints was I bet
you anything. I bet you anything. Because it's very weird
that a television station in San Antonio is the one
that uncovered an international scandal. My guess is somebody who
is a punter handler in the United States tipped off,
like handed, everything that these reporters need directly to.
Speaker 1 (49:32):
Yeah, they're like like the John Carney kicking school or something.
It's like, you ain't gonna keep messing up our players.
Speaker 2 (49:40):
Get Yeah the hell, I'm gonna read you a quote
from the story, right, So there's a guy named Mike McCabe,
and my guess is Mike McCabe was maybe known to
this reporter before they started the investigation, because here's a
quote that Mike McCabe gave. Renowned Special Teams coach Mike
mccaby voiced frustration over pro Kicks recruitment practices and their
impact on the US market. The punting market in the
(50:03):
United States has dropped fifty four percent, said Mike McCabe.
Speaker 1 (50:07):
H what the punting market. But okay, I.
Speaker 2 (50:12):
Guess just guys you get from the United States.
Speaker 1 (50:16):
Yeah, or just the amount of scholarships that have gone
to people from foreign you know, foreign born.
Speaker 2 (50:26):
Yeah, yes, this is this is literal like they took
our jobs. Yes right, this isn't like jobs Americans don't
want to do.
Speaker 1 (50:36):
No, this is jobs Americans do want to do. Other
people are just doing them better.
Speaker 2 (50:40):
Yeah. This isn't this isn't picking, it's kicking. So yeah, anyway,
shout out to everybody who's got a fraudulent thirty two
year old Australian punter. I want one all right anyway.
Oregon punts like three times every four games.
Speaker 1 (50:59):
Hey, when you and you need them, you need them
just like kickers. Chaudre Sanders has dropped some new music.
Why do you seem exasperated? Why are you mad at
the quarterbacks? Why are you mad at Why are you
mad at you?
Speaker 2 (51:15):
I'm mad at myself? Why I'm mad? Because when I
hear new Chadors Sanders music just dropped. When I hear
that sentence, there's like there's like a boomer Republican in me,
(51:37):
Like it just wants to come out.
Speaker 1 (51:38):
It's like raw, it's perfect time.
Speaker 2 (51:44):
Yeah, I don't know what it is.
Speaker 1 (51:46):
Let me see you do to shador man. Let me
see you do the shr door.
Speaker 2 (51:51):
You see him up close and to the student body. Okay,
So I don't know what it is. Uh, it doesn't
bother me. I love my kids, musicians, my wife's musician.
It doesn't really take anything away from your life to
be involved in in music. It's it's great. It's a
(52:13):
good thing. Uh Leangelo Ball just got got some money
for for dropping a hit. Ye I cover Arizona State.
I mean Edmund Boutang, Calin Blage, Manny Wilkins, Samson, Sakachi,
Levi Sterling, all guys who put on a helmet for
Arizona State. They went in to do music after football.
(52:38):
It does It doesn't bother me at all. I still
remember that terrible, terrible music that Kobe Bryant was dropping
early in his career. Wow, that never bothered me.
Speaker 1 (52:48):
Yea.
Speaker 2 (52:50):
I guess it's just that we're like, we're inching up
on the draft and I'm pre exhausted by some of
the stuff that's going to be said about snort Sanders.
Speaker 1 (53:01):
Listen, I can't wait. I'm actually starting to feel like
Cam Wored's gonna be the number one pick. But that's
for where I feel the momentum is going. But that's
whole other thing. But you guys, though that is unafraid
show college football apostles.
Speaker 2 (53:16):
Give an opinion. I'm just the angry white guy at
the end of the podcast.
Speaker 1 (53:21):
Listen, I'm just not a fan of bad music. So
you know, one of those if you don't.
Speaker 2 (53:26):
Have anything nice to say, you're not gonna say anything
at all.
Speaker 1 (53:29):
Yeah, man, listen, listen. I hope his music reaches its
target audience.
Speaker 2 (53:35):
If your son. If your son, what if he gets
the starting job at UC Davis and like three games
in he's playing, Well, he comes to you and he's like,
I got studio time. What would you say to your
own kid?
Speaker 1 (53:50):
Oh, I'd be like Doug. He's he's already making music
in his free time. So I I'm dead serious. He's
he's like engineering, like uh beats and making beats and
all of this stuff, and it's in its free time.
So like, yes, Ralph, I'm going to have nothing to
(54:11):
say except for play me my theme music.
Speaker 2 (54:16):
Okay. Well, what if his lyrics were about his Maybok
or whatever.
Speaker 1 (54:21):
Oh? Oh, he knows that I am not a garbage
lyrics guy. He knows I will straight up to him. Son.
The beats amazing, I mean, but I don't think he
wants to be a rapper, Like I don't think he
wants to be a musician in that way. Like I
think he really likes making beats and all of that stuff.
So just make a beats, sell them, sell them for
(54:42):
a lot. But but if his lyrics were trash, I
would tell him. I'd be like, son, have something to say,
read read a damn book.
Speaker 2 (54:51):
All right, now that I got you on record, you
can end the show.
Speaker 1 (54:54):
All right, you guys, I'm George Rice or he's Ralph
Ampson College Football Pozzles. Peace out, Catch you guys. Next episode.
Host
George Wrightster
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