October 31, 2025 • 61 mins
On this episode of the College Football Apostles, George Wrighster celebrates Halloween in style while Ralph Amsden admits to a 25 year old crime. The guys talk about the absolute circus that has become the LSU coaching search, with the governor making media rounds after firing AD Scott Woodward. Matt Rhule is now locked in at Nebraska, and Ralph talks about the different ways he believes coaches and ADs interact to leverage themselves for raises at their current schools. Plus, on the brink of the first CFP rankings, George outlines doomsday scenarios that will force college football fans to get on board with expansion. And finally, who are fans supposed to side with in the battle between YouTube TV and ESPN?
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome to the College Football Apostles.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Gar Garrison here as your leader, as your college football
apostles man.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Because life's like a puzzle, you don't need all the pieces.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Sometimes one is all you need. Sometimes people will call
that a picture, but it's really a puzzle.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Oh my gosh, George, what are you doing.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Being a dad kid? Wanted to do Minecraft? Dad in
on Minecraft?
Speaker 2 (00:42):
I you know what this says about me though? What
if you're Jason and they don't want to do themes?
Speaker 3 (00:52):
No, if you're Jason Momoa and I'm your short, fat
white friend that likes Oh you're Steve's lava Chicken. Yeah, cool, cool.
I guess I'm Jack Black?
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Uh fun fact. Nobody knows this. Uh. Jack Black's cinematic
breakout role was since it is Halloween, I Still know
what you did last summer? I need people nobody remembers this.
This was these, This was the cast of I Still
Know What You Did last summer? Brandy Mackay Pfeiffer and
(01:37):
Jack Black. What. Yeah, you had Jennifer Hugh and Freddy Prince,
but that's who they replaced Sarah Michelle Geller and uh
and Ryan what's his name? With Ryan fleep. Yeah, so
Brandy is in I still know what you did last
summer and it's Jack Black's first movie role and he
plays a white Rastafarian.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
I need to I need to go see the preview
of that one again because I haven't seen that white.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
And if I had known you were doing this, I
would have been white Rastafarian Jack.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Dude.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
I didn't grow up wearing costumes. Dude, Like, I didn't
celebrate Halloween. I was at Hallelujah n a w uh
what do you mean was Witness No?
Speaker 1 (02:25):
No, no, nope, nope.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Group Black, Black, Israel.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Hite, No, just the regular old Christian, non denominational. So
I never I was always at Hallelujah United and didn't
celebrate Halloween. And then when Roman was born, like I
was kind of still into that, you know, so I
kind of poop pooed it with the kids, but I
would let them dress up.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
And then.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Denisia finally got me to dress up a couple of
years ago when I did the uh mighty uh not
mighty pups.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
What's the what's the other ones that? Like it's the.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Same, Oh the dogs, the cop dog?
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Yes, yes, yes, Oh, Chas is on the case. Yeah, yes, yeah,
the pups. So I dressed up as that and had
a cool suit. So I've done it a couple couple
of times now.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
But so the you're like late to late to Halloween.
That's fun.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
So the kids had So I've been to the kids school,
like they have these parades and all of this stuff,
and people were I was not even recognized. I'm always
at school, was not even recognized there. H the volleyball
coach who my daughter plays for, was like, uh. She
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was like, oh my god, who is that. Who's that
big white guy standing next to Kenyon Kenyon Martin. This
is what she says to her her husband, and because
she's looking at me from the back, she was like,
I've never seen this dude before in my in my life.
And then her her husband was like, that's George. She
was like, that is not George. What are you talking about?
And then she peeked over to the side. She was like,
(04:10):
oh my god, I did this this costume.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
So like O. J.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Simpson dressed as Kato Kailin. So did you like then today,
I know your kids are in the Minecraft. Did you
like the Minecraft movie?
Speaker 1 (04:29):
It was long? It was long, it was going on long. Yeah,
it was talking in the theater.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Yeah, I get it. It was just a little long
for me. I didn't think I was going to be
as well received as it actually was. But the kids
loved it. And when you make movies for for kids,
you make more more money because the kids can't go
to the movie theater all by themselves. A parent has
to take them or some adult so you so you
automatically sell way more tickets.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
You're right, I loved about that movie. Is it highlighted
just how bizarre the Storage Wars people are. Oh like
they are trying to make rent off that stuff?
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (05:14):
All right, So you you ever been a storage I
know you like investments, you ever been a Storage Wars guy? Dude?
Speaker 1 (05:19):
I used to love the show.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
I wanted to do it, but I've actually been a
victim of Storage Wars. So I when me and the
wife when we were together, and this early on the
small house, big family, and so we needed some more rooms,
so we had to put some stuff in storage. When
we moved to a different house, I thought I got
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everything out of storage, but there was a box that
was actually pushed further toward the back because it had
like a shelf on it in it and I didn't
get the one box out of the shelf, and it
was her wedding dress.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Bro, nice expensive wedding dress.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
And so about once every six months she's like, somebody
mentioned something about a wedding dress and I see and
I see her like die a little on the inside.
But then I try to make it better. And I say, babe,
it was one dress one day, like you know, I
love you, but you you were never gonna wear it again.
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She was like, I could have given it to Devin.
And I was like, she's taught like that. It would
not it would not work. And she was like, whatever, George.
So I try to make it better, but there's no
making it better.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
That's rough. That's a forever mistake that'll keep coming up.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
I got a I just buy a new one.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
No, no, no, absolutely not.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
So do we renew our vals just so I can
get a new dress.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
You might have to. You might have to, But that
dress is gonna have to be like enshrined, like you're
at a planet Hollywood restaurant. It's gonna have to be
in a glass cows.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
You're right about that, bro.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
You I got a storage story for you that involves
college football.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
So my dad owns like a painting company and he
gets contracted out by the rental property management companies sometimes, okay,
and they'll you know, they'll flip stuff over so that
they can rent it out to the next person. So
you just go in. If they left stuff, you'll move
it all the garage so that somebody can come and
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pick it up and haul it off to like usually
it's not stuff they wanted to keep, so you know,
you call like a junk caller, they'll come take everything
to the dump. Then you'll just sand blast everything, white,
change couple doorknobs, do some dry wall, and then it's
ready for the next person to come in and have
their kids white boogers on the wall for a year.
So that's the rental flip business. And I would be
included in a lot of these painting, prepping, hauling, junk
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and stuff like that. Did it from like very young age.
And one day we go to this house in Arizona,
uh and it's like a nicer house, and everything in
it was nice that got left behind, And it became
very evident, very quickly that this was an NFL player's
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house that he was just in town because he was
on a team for a short amount of time. And
I don't know what you did, like when you had
your cup of coffee in New York, did you rent
a place for like a six month stretch, Like what
did you do?
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (08:26):
I was in like a corporate housing type type place.
It was a it was an apartment like apartment condo
type type deal.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Furnished all of that stuff.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Yeah, so I feel bad about this. I'm about to
admit to a crime. I will rectify if this player
watches this and it reaches out. But like we you know,
we go to this house and everything's kind of nice,
and I go into the closet and there is a
game worn Clemson Bowl jersey, and so it becomes very
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evident who this player.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Is, yeah, because you see a name on it.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
The last name, and then there's like shoes for days,
you know more, there's a lot more clothes than there
was furniture or anything else. And so we're moving everything.
We're hauling everything to the garage. And this man had
a five gallon water cooler jug in his closet filled
with quarters.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
That's something that that you would see me have.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
It is very like nineties early two thousands, Like in
every home is just a giant change jar. I have
like thirteen cents in my van's ashtray and that's all
I got.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Well, but I used to have a lot.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Now I don't because I don't even want to touch
them nasty coins now.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
And you spend so.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Much with with with cat, with Cat, well with cards.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Dude.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
There was a point in time in my life where
I always at least had ten thousand dollars on me always.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
And I saw ten thousand dollars one time.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
In between ten and fifty thousand dollars because I just
play a lot of poker, and yes, a lot of poker, yes,
and some of these home games and stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
But now I don't just a little throwaway comment home
poker games, not that those are in the news right.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Now, I know, right, Oh, dude, I made a video
about it, but I'm I'm nervous if I should even.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Put it out.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
If you get yourself arrested by the FBI and make
for a good story, that that'd be good content, especially
if you get hauled away wearing that.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
So all right, yeah, so dude, I hope I'm pretty
sure it's passed the Statute of Limitations on your on
your thievery well.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
So as you can imagine a five gallon I think
five gallon water thing is forty pounds. Yeah, imagine it
three quarters the way filled with quarters. So I had
to get a dolly. I hauled the and you know,
there's probably a few hundred bucks in change in this
five gallon drum. But stuffed at the top was a
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roll of ones. Stuffed it was like a makeshift lid
for the five gallon yeah thing, I pocketed the ones
I did. I was fifteen. I feel bad about it now,
but Patrick Sap, if you hit me up, I owe
you like one hundred dollars, all right, So.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Here's the thing about it. So here's the thing about it.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
You know how the Good Book says that when you
steal something, you got to pay it payback time time seven.
That's probably what what happened when your car got stolen
from the amp of.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
That was my recompense for stealing one hundred dollars from
Patrick Sap when I was fifteen.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
Well, what's crazy is like I don't know if he
ever got any of that stuff that. I don't know
if he got like the his dude soldier.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Dude.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Sometimes people lose stuff in stories that and like memorabilia
and they can't get it back, and that is like
I would imagine that would be pretty frustrated if.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
You if you got any connects. I know, he's a
few years older than you. You got any connects, I'll I'll
get you your hundred bucks back. Patrick.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
All right, onto the business of the of the day.
It's college football time. It's college football season. We are here,
and so last week was absolute like there wasn't really
any chaos, not necessarily, but we ended up with coaches fired,
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people looking for coaches. It's James Franklin going to Virginia Tech.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Now.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Matt Ruhle put out a video talking about how much
he loves how happy he is in Nebraska. Oh oh,
why wouldn't you saying that before you got your new contract?
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Path dude. It is.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
It is a bunch of scamming going on amongst people
that I that I like in general, because I know
a lot of these college football coaches, and so we
always start with our you know, with our thoughts for
last week. So I'll go first this week is college
football coaches are scammers and there is plenty of money,
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but the well will run drive. And this is not
all college football coaches. Let's take Matt Rule for example.
This was scammer behavior. And I don't and I mean
that in like a positive like he's not a trickster.
You know that he's not just getting over that. He's
trying to do a good job. But why didn't you
just say from the beginning, I'm staying at Nebraska. Schools
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will give you a new contract without you having to
like hold their feet to the fire because or the
reason why you're doing that is because you haven't done
a good enough job to warrant a new contract. But
you're forcing them to give you a new contract. So
his buyout goes from forty eight million up to seventy
one million.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
And yes, that's a good business move.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
But at the at the end of the day, if
you do a good job, they will reward and you
don't have to If you got to threaten to go
somewhere else to get a new job, then number one,
you probably really don't want to be there, or number two,
they don't really value as much any anyway. So it's
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a best it's it's a it's it's a bad precedent
because and then when you have coaches, when you have
people say, oh, we'll just offer this coach fifteen million dollars,
well that sounds like a hostage. Because if somebody's making
five million and you're offer them fifteen million and they
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love where they're at, They're gonna be like, bro, this
is weighted like it's one hundred million dollars.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
How am I?
Speaker 2 (15:18):
And I'm making I got twenty five here, one hundred here.
I'm now a hostage. I don't even want to be there,
but I'm forced to be there. And you don't want hostages,
you want willing participants. And there's plenty of money to
to pay the players all of this because one hundred
and sixty hundred and eighty million dollars buyout money already
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committed plenty of money to pay the players.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
But there's not. But for some reason that's looked at poorly.
I'm off my soapbucks.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
I think Matt Matt Rule has a weird amount of
leverage in that, like this is the college where he
walked on. Penn State was so it was a very
unique threat, right, and then.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Yeah, but if he was also he was going to go.
It wasn't going to be for money or not for money.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
That's true. That's true. You're also Bowl eligible for the
second season in a row, which for Nebraska shouldn't be
a big deal, but it really is because they had
the gap from twenty seventeen to twenty twenty four and
they don't want to take one step backwards. And that's
fully understandable. The other thing is Matt Rule started a
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podcast with a dude from Pennsylvania and he's in there
standing up at his desk like he's Pat McAfee or
Cam Newton running this show every week. And I think
there are little seeds of paranoia that are planted in Nebraska,
you know, fans heads of like is this guy all
in or not? And I think this will bring some
relief to that situation that he locked in.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
But I just.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Great question.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
If he wins ten games and then next year some
you know, Alabama comes open, is he then gonna.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Be like, oh, you know, that's a great question. And
I so I'll give you my takeaway, and it's that
I'm realizing that college football head coaching jobs are actually
not that different than just regular corporate situations. Right, So
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you have three very distinct situations. You have. I'm probably
the only one who can do this job. Therefore I'm invaluable,
and I pay for myself, and that is my And
there's alignment from top to bottom. So your athletic director
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and the president of the university are going to reward
you based on you being able to accomplish something that
nobody else really has been able to accomplish, and you
understanding the situation as well or better than anybody else could.
Your raises aren't necessarily contingent on the threat of somebody
else coming to get you. That's like a Dabo Swinny
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type situation where it's like, oh, like Dabo is the culture.
We weren't anything before he got here. You know, he's
over the last seventeen years, we're probably the second best program,
and so you know, we're all in agreement that this
is going to work this specific way. There's a lot
of jobs in America that work exactly like that. Then
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you have the adversarial relationship or multiple climbers being involved,
and I think this might be maybe closer to the
Matt Rules situation. You have an athletic director that just
left two jobs for better jobs or better pay or
whatever else. Troy Dannon went from Tulane to Washington and Nebraska,
and he did it in three year period. So you
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can't like, were gonna bullshit a bullshitter, You're gonna go
to his office and be like, no, I'm totally happy here.
I'm sure that's a line that Troy Dannon has fed
to other people. So you got to actually like play
the game of the of the situation in order to
get what you want. And the people you're playing the
game with understand that it's a game. They might not
one hundred percent be on your side, but they've played
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it too, and so it can be adversarial, but you
can also work together for the common good. Then you
have this other situation. And this is why I want
to bring up Kenny Dillingham because he was on the
cover of the article for The Athletic of who could
be replacing Brian Kelly at LSU. And there's no like
inside information or reason for it if you open the article.
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It's just we got to throw some names out and
stir the pot. Kenny Dillingham can not come out and
say what Dan Lanning says, which is like I'm exactly
where I want to be, even though Kenny Dillingham has
the same views as Dan Lanning. And why can't he
come out and say that question, Well, because him and
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his athletic director are on the same team. And this
is how I think a lot of jobs in America work.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
I don't what you mean.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
So your boss is in on it with you. They
also want you to have more resources and to have
a raise, but they're gonna tell you. I can't go
to my boss without some leverage. So if Kenny Dillingham
wants more money for recruiting, if Kenny Dillingham wants more
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control over you know where anil goes. If Kenny Dillingham
wants to see his vision through of having like an
indoor tailgating facility, he can't turn down anything publicly because
it wouldn't be in his athletic director's best interest for
him to do it.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
I see what you're saying, because and I've said this
consistently that Kenny Dillingham is not leaving Arizona State right now,
that we are at least a few years of being
under resourced away from it even being a threat. But
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there needs to be a threat for his boss to
then be like, hey, yo, like I don't know what's
going on. I know he loves it here, but we
never know if you know. And I actually don't believe
that Kenny Dillingham wants more money. I mean, of course
everybody wants more money. I don't think that the ask
for for him is pay me more money. I think
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they ask for him is give me more resources. Because
if you give me more resources, you will pay me
more money.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Yeah. Yeah, you set me up for success. I'm like,
success will eventually reward me on the Yes, it's a
pretty like good and holistic way to look at it,
but you had to play the game. And I think
about it this way because my wife's worked for the
same company for eighteen years now and she's been promoted
eleven or twelve times, and her direct boss is on
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her team. Like you know, I'm I'll like witness conversations
just in the periphery because we both work from home
where it's like, hey, if you want this for your
people or you want this for yourself, I need leverage.
So like you want one of your people to get
a raise, I need to know there's a thread of
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them being poached yes, bring me an offer letter from
somebody else so that I can justify getting your person
what they need to stay here. And so like that,
I look at that, and I look at a situation
like Arizona State and some of these other situations where
people are coaching at their alma mater. Dan Lanning is
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afforded the ability to come out and just know that
he's going to get taken care of, so he can say,
I'm exactly where I want to be. I'm not interested
in any of these jobs. That loyalty is going to
get rewarded on the back end he's getting paid, yes.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
And and the thing is is that the thing that
people don't realize is is that last year when the
Alabama job came open, that's not when he got a
new contract. So he didn't leverage that into a new contract.
They gave him a new contract months and months after that.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Right. And so if you're Brent Key, or you're Jeff Brohm,
or you're Kenny Dillingham, and people bring this stuff to
your doorstep, you got to be like, I'm not focused
on any of that. You have to leave the door
open for the possibility that you can take off. You
have to because you're boss.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
If where, if I'm where I want to be, I
would come out and I would say, look, I love
being here. I'm not leaving here as long as we
continue to like there's no chance, as long as we
continue to.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Do the resources. Blah blah blah.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
That's what I would say, because that explicitly says there
is a threat, but only if you don't handle your business.
But because I gotta handle mine as far as coaching, winning, recruiting,
all of this stuff, but I need the tools to
be able to do. So, Yeah, that's what I would do.
But that's just gar Garrison.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
You know me, I'm a dumb ass. I'd be like,
you're getting paid for this. You guy's getting paid. I've
been just hanging out here slaving away. Is there money involved?
Speaker 1 (24:49):
That's hilarious, But I don't know.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Man, It's been a circus. So that that was my takeaway.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
My main topic for you, George is did LSU go
from being this greatest job available to everybody was talking
about to a job that it is maybe not one
you want to take. And the reason I asked that
is because the Governor of Louisiana has turned this into
a reality show, and you have like Urban Meyer, who
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you know, his name gets floated out for all sorts
of stuff. We know he's not going to take any job,
but you have him coming out here and being like,
why would anybody go to LSU right now if the
government's involved?
Speaker 2 (25:35):
The yes, and that because they don't have a president
of the school and this is not a a booster
funded I told everybody, and I said initially when I
did the reaction video, I said, Brian, I was like,
the reason why the governor had to get involved is
because this is a public money buyout and this is
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not a privately funded buyout. And then there was some talk, oh,
there's a privately funded but I was like, so then
there's privately funded, why the hell you need to get
the governor involved?
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Exactly. So, so now it's.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
A situation where the head coach at LSU is therefore
a good time and not for a long time, Like
you don't make it their long term, Like when when
is the last time that they have had a a
long term head coach?
Speaker 1 (26:36):
I'm pulling up there there, Yes, that probably be it.
So you had oh.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
So you had Brian Kelly there almost four years Ed
Oderon one, two, three, four, five years, Less miles.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Oh, that's good.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
One two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven,
twelve years, Nick Saban for five, Jerry DeNardo what four
or five years? Curly Hallman four years, Mike Archer four years. Dude,
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this is a litany. You gotta go all the way
back to the eighth to nineteen seventy nine where you
had Charles McClendon there from sixty three to from sixty
two to seventy nine. Like, this has been a turnstyle
job outside of less Miles, and they would have got
less Miles up out of there if.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
It were this era too.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
I think that, Yeah, this feels like an NBA contract,
like a three year Supermax. You know, this feels like
a job that Kevin Durant would sign on for.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Yes, yes, exactly.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
So if you want to have any longevity with your family, stability,
any of that stuff, ls you went to place for you,
it is not. And also so LSU does have built
in recruiting advantages because it is ingrained into the state.
It's not like there's another college in Louisiana that people
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are like clamoring to go to. I mean, of course,
Tulane is good, Louisiana is good. Yeah, I mean like
that LA Tech has had some some some history. But
you know, compared to other states, like if you if
you go to Georgia, there's Georgia, there's Georgia Tech. What
else is in Georgia.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
Georgia Southern Georgia State.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Yeah, but but like Georgia's king there, right, yeah, but
but Georgia Georgia Tech can make some in roads because
it's still a p for a school in Louisiana.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
That's it. That's it.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
In Florida, you got Florida, or to state Miami. Those
are a lot of options. So the kid, so you're
built in recruiting advantages is in the state of Louisiana,
so that yes, you do have But as far as winning,
that's different.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
You can win at almost anywhere now where you have resources.
And I think that that's the biggest difference is that
it's not that LSU is not a great job, because
it is because you can recruit there, but they also
have some financial limitations in that the state doesn't have
money like that. This is why the governor had to
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get involved and why this is such a big deal.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
Right, Now, if I'm LSU, and I can't even put
myself in that mindset, But if I'm LSU, I want
somebody who is that works really hard at the job
of trying to win football games, knowing that your school
is gonna recruit itself, knowing that NIL is about to
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be regulated in a way where you can take that
job off of really the head coach's played altogether, and
it makes a boring dude like Matt Campbell attractive to
me in that situation of saying, we just need somebody
who knows how to coach college kids to win football games.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
I'm not hiring Matt Campbell there. And I like Matt
Campbell a lot, So it's not that I don't think
he would be a phenomenal head coach. Number One, he's
a sitting power forward coach, which is a bad idea
to hire him somewhere else.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
History says that doesn't work.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
The last time it did work was somebody hiring somebody
away from Iowa State. Though, ironically enough, who uh your
boy that won with Cam Newton. He got hired out
of Iowa State after going to Yeah, gene Chiswick.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
And then the other thing is I think that in
Louisiana you need somebody who understands the culture. I feel
like John Somemerl is the right guy for that job.
He's into lane, he knows Louisiana, knows the coaches there.
He'll be able to recruit at a very high level.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
There is there something about being a lower level coach?
Is there something about being a low level coach where
you get your teeth kicked in if people mention you
for a job because they gave up thirty one points
in the first half last night to UTSA and.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Yes, bro, these coaching rumors cost And I was talking
to an agent and I talked about this on the
Live YA yesterday.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Is that.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
These agents and some of these coaches are terrified of
these interviews right now, Ralph. They're terrified because they know
that at the point in time it gets out that
they are interviewing now, all of a sudden, people are
questioning their loyalty, their question in their like, their their commitment,
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They're questioning everything. So now that I know that players, yeah,
and your best players are now like oh coaches shopping around,
maybe I should listen as well. And as soon as
you give the ear to the streets. The streets gonna
take some of it.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Now that I know that's true. Don't you think Matt
Campbell would be so good at LSU? I.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Oh my god, because they're they're playing as U. That's
dirty work right there, That's nasty work.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
It wasn't my plan, But now that you said that,
that that there is a cost.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
I mean, I just think he would think about that.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
As soon as the the the Matt rule rumors started,
Nebraska played their worst game of the season against Minnesota.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Mm hmmmm, the irony.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
I have a So my son brought this up, and
it's for you and you only you'd laugh at this.
So I told him as a as a young Washington
fan who knows why. I was like, hey, you guys
might lose your coach. And he's like, everybody might lose
their coach. And I'm like, yeah, but you really might.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
You know what I said, losing their coach.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
Oregon.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
You know who else is not losing their coach in Miami.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
It's very funny how quickly you started flexing on people
that your coach isn't available when you when you were
a turnstyle program whoa Chim Kelly and Mario Christobal and
Willie Taggart. You're out here on your fourth marriage, given
marriage seminars.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
Notre Dame. They're not losing their head coach.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Hey, I will I will say, as a person covers
college football but also somebody who cares about it and
understands all aspects of this, it does feel nice to
know that your coach is not leaving.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
Yeah, it is nice. But I asked him. I was like,
what what do you want if you lose another head coach?
And he told me he goes Jerry new Heisel. Well,
this marketing works, those little clips you see on Instagram,
and he he didn't even know Jerry new Heeiseel's history
with his dad be in Washington. He didn't even know.
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He just saw clips of Jerry new Heiseel leading post
game chance and he's like, that should be the next
head coach.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
University of Washington's not the actual marketing coach Tim Tim Skipper.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
But okay, and so that's a Tim Skipper stuff. I
gotta bring this up with you as a four fifths
white man. Every single post I see that that that
deals with Tim Skipper is like, this is racism, right.
I'm just want to float that out there, What is
your take on that?
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Okay, so so it's.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Very tell people what we're talking about. Tim Skipper is
the interim coach of UCLA.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Correct.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
And but when whenever they win, you see Jerry new Heizel.
But then when they just got blown out by Indiana,
which everybody except Oregon has well and Iowa, they were like, oh, oh, Tim,
Tim Skipper, we sure he should get the head coaching job,
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Like what And there were people who were floating about
that Jerry new Heisel should get the job. I was like,
first of all, he's thirty three. That doesn't mean that
he can't eventually be a big time head coach and
all this stuff. I was like, well, I guess they
could make him and his dad like co head coach
and he's the head coach in waiting because his dad
can be the adult in the room and but he
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still be leading things. And then I was like, hold up,
how's that gonna play out? You don't hire Tim Skipper,
the guy who's right at.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
The ship for little alleged whiz kid over over here.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
That's not gonna play well in the like that ain't
gonna go over well. You would actually lose all of
the good will that Jerry Neuheisel has by by passing
up the guy who actually did the job for him,
that would not go over well. And then if you
add in that he's a black man too, it's it's
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gonna get blown even more out of proportion.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
Yeah, that the Internet will Internet for sure, and then
you will see it. You'll see an all time interneting
Internet reckoning if if that ends up happening. I do
want to stick on U c l A for a second, though,
as someone who has famously signed a letter that became
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public having to do with hiring and firing out of college.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
For those of you don't know, there was a there
was a coach opening at Oregon and the players wanted
to be brought back into the program and have a say,
and decided that the man that would be best for
them is one that they used to play alongside, and
justin Wilcox, people signed their name to it.
Speaker 3 (37:25):
I'll I'll give you, I'll give you the floor here
in a second. But I say all that to say this,
and George, you can you can explain yourself away, but
I also want your take on this. They say it
like fifty some former players just wrote a letter wanting
Martin Jerman to get fired at UCLA. You got some
connections at UCLA, so I just want to know what
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is going on here and is this active way to
get what you want? Having participated in something similar.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
So I was not first of all, yes, this is
a way to get what you want. But thank god
because I actually had to call Oregon's athletic director after
Joey put out because joe to go back. Joey Harrington
calls me, George, we want to talk about the program
blah blah blah, like we feel like it's getting away
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from the Oregon roots, right, the players aren't really back
and all this. I was like, hell yeah, And my
thing was, yes, Justin Wilcox should be considered for this job. However,
we can't just give him this job because he's got
to recruit better. He's got to be more intense in
that area.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
Blah blah blah.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Believe that you can recruit the best class in the
nation to do Eugene and all of this stuff. And
then that got turned into so what Joey talked to
me about versus what was in the letter, It's two
different things. And then so I ended up talking to
the athletic director Rob Mullen. Devis was like Rob, Rob,
Rob Roy, Rob, hold on, I know my name's on there,
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but this is not what I was saying. I was like,
we need to hire So me and Rob had some
private conversations about it. He was like, Okay, I understand
what you're saying. This makes sense. And then when the
Dan Lanning thing came up, I was like, oh, I
called and did some digging on Dan and I was like, oh,
this dude is legit. So I was on board with that.
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I was one hundred percent on board with that. I
actually would have hired him over Justin Wilcox.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
Do so what about UCLA? Do you think you think
this will have an effect? You think it'll change the
way Martin Jrynton does stuff? They issued us vote think.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
That Martin jarmint made a good decision in the process,
the best decision that he could when he was dealing
with Chip Kelly, he had just got the job.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
The prudent thing to do would have been to well.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
The best decision in hindsight would have been to fire
chip Kelly as soon as Martin Jarmond got the job.
That would have been the right thing to do. It
also would have been bully ball, like you just get
a job, you fire a guy like you don't even
have the full landscape of things, understand what's going on.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
That's not always a prudent choice, you hear me.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
And even if you wanted to bring your coach with
you from Boston College, he decided he didn't want to
coach college football anymore.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
Yes, so, so I understand him not firing chip Kelly
at first, and then chip Kelly leaves late in the cycle,
at the point in time chip Kelly was starting to
interview for other jobs, I'd have been like, all right, bro,
it's of for you to go.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
And then hiring Dashawan.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
He was already on staff, they knew him in the building,
well respected, all of these things. The issue is is
that it was kind of like hiring an inexperienced head coach.
If I were the athletic director, be like, listen, you
have to bring some former coaches in on this. That
not former coaches, former head coaches. We need analysts, we
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need this, we need that. And he was and Deshaun
Foster was under resourced and under mentored. If that will
with other people who were in the building that had
done this previously, and I believe that that's why it failed.
I don't believe it was for lack of effort or
lack of anything like that. And I believe that Jarmid
made a decent decision in that situation hiring him. But
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then they also pivoted off of it pretty quickly too.
Speaker 3 (41:43):
I'm I'm cured because they they got to trust him
to make the hire. They were trying to get their
foot in the door to get him up out of there.
But now.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
I think that Tim Skipper is going to if I
tell you, if he can win three out of the
next four games, absolutely, two out of the next four.
Speaker 3 (42:06):
Possible.
Speaker 2 (42:07):
Because they got USC Washington, Ohio State. They're definitely not
winning that game. And oh gosh, and then one more
game I can't think of.
Speaker 3 (42:18):
Hold up, let me look, well, they got the intra
city rivalry.
Speaker 2 (42:23):
Yeah, that's what I said, USC. Yeah, they got USC Washington.
Speaker 3 (42:35):
What if U c l A. What if USC beats Nebraska?
What if they get on the verge of a CFP
spot and it's U c l A that takes them down?
I do you think USC fans would react to that?
Speaker 2 (42:51):
Oh? That would that would mean that they beat Oregon
if in your scenario and then they to U C.
Speaker 1 (42:58):
L A, that would that would be fitting, That would.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
Be very they would they would hate Lincoln Riley again.
I oh have we talked about though, and Josh Payton
talked about this, but I have brought it up as well,
but less so about the ACC but more about the
Big Twelve and the ACC how they can actually end
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up with multiple playoff berths.
Speaker 3 (43:27):
I did see Josh Pate talk about this a little
bit and he was kind of heavy on the ACC
side because not a lot of the teams play each other,
which is true. They have seventeen teams, yeah, and eight
conference games, so you're not going to play everybody. And
there are unique situations with like a Virginia and a
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Miami where you know, if you get to the end
and you only have one loss, you can have a
one loss team not allowed to play in the a
SEC championship game yep, and then you have to give
them some consideration as well.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
Yeah, because you could end up with an eleven and
one Miami not in the conference championship game with a
win over Notre Dame, who then played, but then you
would have Georgia Tech in the conference championship game against
pick whoever you want to pick.
Speaker 1 (44:19):
You know, you can go.
Speaker 2 (44:20):
Virginia, Pit, Louisville, whoever you want to pick. And then
they beat Georgia Tech. So you got an eleven to
one Georgia Tech, who was inside of the top ten
for sure, because if they're if they're twelve, oh excuse me,
twelve and zero, Virginia Tech, who's gonna be a top
They're number eight right now, so they're probably gonna be
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top six, top eight. And then you lose a conference
championship game. Are we gonna throw Georgia Tech all the
way out to put another SEC or Big ten team in?
And then you got Miami sitting at eleven and one,
so you can't put Notre Dame in and eleven and
one Miami out because they beat them. And then over
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in the Big twelve, you got a similar situation with BYU,
who is undefeated if they run the table. And then
people keep bringing this up about other conferences, but you
got the SEC with Techa and m Alabama, Georgia, Ole,
Miss and Vanderbilt. None of them play each other in
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the rest of the season. Ralph Right and they're all
inside of the top ten.
Speaker 3 (45:34):
So this is how we're gonna get This is how
we're gonna get a twenty fourteen playoff for stanwn our throat.
It's gonna be this season because they form these super
conferences and nobody plays each other. You do have a
very bizarre situation right now brewing in the Big Twelve.
Because let's say Nebraska doesn't lose again for the rest
of the season. Okay, that makes Cincinnati's loss to Nebraska
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not so bad?
Speaker 1 (46:01):
Yes, correct.
Speaker 3 (46:03):
So what if Cincinnati beats Utah this weekend and then
eventually Texas Tech deals BYU their first and only loss,
and BYU turns around and deals Cincinnati their only Big
Twelve loss, you will have three eight and one teams
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at the top of the Big Twelve. Cincinnati will not
have played Texas Tech. They'll have the extra loss to
Nebraska that went down to the final play. In that situation,
I'm assuming that means that Cincinnati doesn't get into the
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conference championship because they have the worst overall one loss record.
But they're all tied at eight and one, so I'm
not actually one hundred percent sure if that's how the
Big Twelve is governed. Last year there was four seven
and two teams and I was state in Arizona. State
got to go. And I'm still not one hundred percent
sure why, yep, why it was so so that's good
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to me. That's gonna be a really interesting scenario because.
Speaker 2 (47:11):
So let's do a little paper math here. Okay, so
you got the SEC winner, so pick pick who you want.
Speaker 1 (47:19):
That to be.
Speaker 3 (47:21):
Let's assume right now it's Alabama.
Speaker 1 (47:23):
Okay, you got Alabama.
Speaker 2 (47:26):
Does Georgia lose to Georgia Tech, Yes or no?
Speaker 3 (47:30):
No?
Speaker 1 (47:31):
Okay? So then if Georgia actually let's let's assume.
Speaker 2 (47:38):
Georgia Tech beats Georgia Okay, okay, okay, so, and then
Georgia Tech loses in the ACC Championship to Louisville.
Speaker 1 (47:49):
Then you got Louisville with the automatic birth.
Speaker 2 (47:53):
A twelve and one Georgia Tech team that beat Georgia.
So so then Georgia Tech is one hundred in the
playoff because you can't put Georgia in the playoff and
leave Georgia Tech out after they beat them in the
last game of the season, right, So, now then you
got the Big ten champion.
Speaker 3 (48:14):
Who do you want to put in prior Ohio State.
Speaker 1 (48:17):
Okay, Ohio State.
Speaker 2 (48:23):
I think the thing we're figuring out Ralph and doing
this is that we need more spots. So we got
the SEC, Alabama ACC Louisville, but then Georgia Tech gets
in Big ten Ohio State Big twelve?
Speaker 3 (48:40):
Who gets in? So again, doomsday scenario. Let's say that
you have an eleven and one BYU playing an eleven
one Texas Tech in the Big twelve Championship and BYU wins,
which means BYU gets in, right.
Speaker 1 (48:57):
Okay, so wait, but that would then eleven and.
Speaker 3 (49:00):
One and eleven and one BYU in a scenario where
their only loss is to Cincinnati, who is ten and two,
whose only losses to Texas Tech. Do you keep a
ten and two Cincinnati team that's been to the College
Football Playoff already out? If they've got to win over
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the college Football playoff team.
Speaker 2 (49:22):
For BYU to finish eleven and one, they have to
hand Texas Tech another loss.
Speaker 3 (49:33):
Yeah, they would have to beat Texas Tech twice in
this situation, so BYU's in, Texas Tech's for sure out.
But you have a ten and two Cincinnati team with
a win over BYU. Do you have to consider Cincinnati, yep, exactly.
Speaker 2 (49:50):
So then you put Cincy on the bubble, and we
put BYU in, and I think we can put Indiana
in as well, okay, and then let's throw the G
six whoever that individual is. So we already got seven spots, okay,
and then we got is my Miami eleven and one
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in this scenario.
Speaker 3 (50:17):
They absolutely could be yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (50:19):
So now we got my three teams potentially, I mean,
what what are what?
Speaker 1 (50:26):
What are we supposed to do?
Speaker 2 (50:28):
And then we gotta get the the third big ten
team in assume that Oregon finishes eleven and one. They're
already at number six now, so now Oregon's in. And
then now we got nine spots taken, and I guess
we got.
Speaker 1 (50:44):
To give the other three to the SEC. So then
we got text and.
Speaker 2 (50:52):
M Georgia could be the odd man out because they
lost to George to.
Speaker 3 (51:00):
Tech, Virginia could be eleven and one into the ACC Championship, but.
Speaker 2 (51:08):
Then Georgia would have beaten Old Miss Yes, So then
it gets funky.
Speaker 3 (51:18):
What if Virginia wins the ACC and their only loss
is to Notre Dame.
Speaker 1 (51:25):
No, no, Virginia. I thought their loss was to n
C State.
Speaker 3 (51:31):
Oh, you're right, you're right, you're right. That's my fault.
That's my fault. Yes, they've lost two games, so they're
they're out unless they win the ACC.
Speaker 1 (51:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (51:44):
It's gonna be messy, and they're gonna use it to
justify uh, given these TV networks what they want, which
brings me to our final topic today, George, when you
leave the house to go to the store, what are
the two most important things like when you when you
go out and you So, let's say two things that
are sold by two different stores. What are they? It
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could be a type of grocery.
Speaker 1 (52:12):
What what two things do I need to go to
the store for.
Speaker 3 (52:15):
The most Yeah, but it has to be from two
different stores? Food? Okay, and.
Speaker 1 (52:27):
I don't need pet food anymore. What's the others?
Speaker 3 (52:33):
So let's say, Okay, so you you got a couple
of Mexican food spots that you really love out there, right, Yes,
Let's say your favorite Mexican food spot is right next
to your favorite grocery store.
Speaker 1 (52:44):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (52:46):
All you do in either place is spend money. Yes,
that's it. You have an allegiance to both because they
have something you need.
Speaker 1 (52:56):
Okay, But if you pull up in.
Speaker 3 (52:58):
The parking lot and you see the owner of the
Mexican food store fistfighting the owner of the grocery store,
and they both turn to you and they say you
need to pick a winner. What's your reaction to me?
What the hell does this have to do with me?
Speaker 2 (53:13):
Exactly like bro if no, I'm not picking a winner? No, no, sorry.
Speaker 3 (53:19):
So my question is, why does YouTube, TV and ESPN
just put out these statements asking us to figure something
out for them? What does it have to do with me?
Why are you talking to me? I'm watching two billionaires
fight and all I want to do is watch Washington
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State play at eleven pm Eastern. What does this have
to do with me? What? What is the point of
the pr battle? I actually am earnestly asking George. Why
do they appeal to us.
Speaker 2 (53:55):
Because they think that all we care about is watching
the game. That is what they know that come that
when it comes down to it, that is all that
matters is the ability to watch the game.
Speaker 3 (54:10):
But if they're both telling me that it's the other
person's fault, I don't have anything to say to you.
You will meet me in my living room to tell you.
Speaker 2 (54:21):
But Google or is either either put the game on
or I will find another way to watch it period.
So I think YouTube TV will probably be the loser here,
because if this is not fixed by Monday and people
can't watch Monday night football.
Speaker 1 (54:39):
They will be over to Hulu TV or the ESPN
app all on college football. We can't watch college football
on there, man. Hell no, I know it's a.
Speaker 3 (54:56):
If you type in any college football game on TikTok,
somebody will just set their phone up and stream that game.
TikTok doesn't care exactly. So I'm like, you want me
to pick a winner, how about you both lose? Yeah,
you'll chase me into the black market of consuming college football, yep.
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Like if it's not That's what I'm saying. Like, if
it's not safe for me to come to your Mexican
food restaurant or a grocery store because you guys are
out here fighting in the parking lot, I'll just go
somewhere else. So I don't I don't understand why they're
appealing to us at all, Like we have anything to
do with this, and especially ESPN statement calling Google a
multi billion dollar corporation, what do you.
Speaker 1 (55:38):
Think you are?
Speaker 2 (55:41):
And It's like, see that multi billion dollar corporation is
trying to take you away from your games.
Speaker 1 (55:48):
You need to stop them at once.
Speaker 3 (55:53):
This is like Nancy Pelosi out here being like, we
gotta do something about these millionaires exactly, Like, oh dude, okay,
I'm I'm sitting in my house. What do you want
me to do? I'm not gonna I'm not gonna solve this.
I just don't understand why espn PR is tweeting this
call to action amongst college football fans, Like, at the
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end of the day, you're trying to get my prices
to go up, and you want me to take out
my sword and fight for you. Exact yet, Vin, I'm
gonna pirate. I stole from Patrick's sap. I will steal
from you.
Speaker 1 (56:32):
That's hilarious.
Speaker 3 (56:33):
I'm done it. What are you looking forward to this weekend?
Speaker 1 (56:35):
Oh man?
Speaker 2 (56:37):
This weekend, I am looking forward to see Like there's
something weird in my gut.
Speaker 1 (56:44):
I feel like that.
Speaker 2 (56:45):
Penn State is going to keep this game close, and
I want to see too. I don't know why they're
favored by twenty and a half, and I just feel
like this could be a seven point point game. I
think they're going to play out of their mind. And
then the other thing is, I want to see Vanderbilt Texas.
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Everybody wants text to be so damn good. Okay, let's
see what you're talking about. And they want Vandy to
be so damn good too. So one of these two
things is not true, and exposure will happen. Texas is
three and a half way favorite Miami.
Speaker 3 (57:26):
Two.
Speaker 1 (57:28):
Will Miami survive? Smmu.
Speaker 3 (57:33):
I'm one hundred million percent with you on this Texas
versus Vanderbilt game. And here's the reason. Here's what this
means for people sitting at small colleges all over America
right now. This is a battle between a quarterback who
three years ago was at New Mexico Military Institute against
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the quarterback two years ago who was at Gardner Webb
outside of Gastonia, North Carolina.
Speaker 1 (58:03):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (58:06):
And that's the too mean arch meeting doesn't play. But like,
if you're sitting at some tiny ass college somewhere right now,
your moment might be two years away. You might be
two years away from playing for an SEC championship.
Speaker 1 (58:22):
Exactly, bro, exactly.
Speaker 3 (58:25):
Oh, this is out here rocking with a dude who
is splitting time at fair Est State at this time
last year.
Speaker 2 (58:32):
Mm, bro that that my friends matters, that my friends matters,
and and I actually love it, dude, because I'm actually
happy for these kids that they get opportunities because they
need them.
Speaker 1 (58:47):
And you're watching or they had a glow up.
Speaker 3 (58:52):
You're watching a kid ball out. You told me you're
watching a kid ball out at UC Davis right now.
Speaker 1 (58:56):
Yep, yep, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (58:58):
Cayden up Pinnick. He's playing very very well and you
could see him at a power for school next year.
He's the short king, but short short kings can can work.
Speaker 3 (59:13):
I saw a guy earlier this year at Northern Arizona
User University named ty Pennington, not the home improvement ty Pennington,
college football ty Pennington, And all of a sudden, I'm like, wait,
I think this guy's game translates yep, like everything is
on the table for everyone. And I told you, like,
as a Wyoming guy, I thought the nil era was
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going to break us, and it has not, No, because
you got guys out there every single day playing for
you know, some people are playing for the opportunity to
get drafted. Other people are playing for the opportunity to
get on a bigger stage. It turned it into like
you go to a like a regional broadcast of the
play Hamilton where it's not the original cast. It's just
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like some people in you know, outside of Denver or
something like that, and you're watching people give the greatest
performances of their life because all of a sudden, the
way to Broadway is through Denver or anywhere in America.
You're about to see everybody's performance level jump. And that's
what's happening right now in the nil era is anybody
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who leaves high school and didn't get found by the
right people still has an opportunity. You could still get found.
And it's like, again, Ole miss could go to the
national championship. I believe they could with a dude from
fair State. Vanderbilt could go with a guy from New
Mexico Military Institute who knows what Texas is about.
Speaker 1 (01:00:38):
Talking to show win the Heisman.
Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
After that performance last week, you're like, hey, brother, let's
work on this as a legacy award and not a
statistical award.
Speaker 3 (01:00:50):
But I'm just man, it's just the college football is
so crazy right now. It's more interesting than it's ever been.
It's more fun than it's ever been, and I can't
wait to complain about who gets left out of the
college football Playoff.
Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
You're right, brother, and we get the first rankings this
next Tuesday. So I'm Jeice. You guys, I'm George Reister,
He's Ralph Anderson. This is the College Football Apostles, and
I'm Garrett Garrison. Have a great Halloween.
Speaker 3 (01:01:18):
Sorry, Patrick,
Welcome to the College Football Apostles.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Gar Garrison here as your leader, as your college football
apostles man.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Because life's like a puzzle, you don't need all the pieces.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Sometimes one is all you need. Sometimes people will call
that a picture, but it's really a puzzle.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Oh my gosh, George, what are you doing.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Being a dad kid? Wanted to do Minecraft? Dad in
on Minecraft?
Speaker 2 (00:42):
I you know what this says about me though? What
if you're Jason and they don't want to do themes?
Speaker 3 (00:52):
No, if you're Jason Momoa and I'm your short, fat
white friend that likes Oh you're Steve's lava Chicken. Yeah, cool, cool.
I guess I'm Jack Black?
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Uh fun fact. Nobody knows this. Uh. Jack Black's cinematic
breakout role was since it is Halloween, I Still know
what you did last summer? I need people nobody remembers this.
This was these, This was the cast of I Still
Know What You Did last summer? Brandy Mackay Pfeiffer and
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Jack Black. What. Yeah, you had Jennifer Hugh and Freddy Prince,
but that's who they replaced Sarah Michelle Geller and uh
and Ryan what's his name? With Ryan fleep. Yeah, so
Brandy is in I still know what you did last
summer and it's Jack Black's first movie role and he
plays a white Rastafarian.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
I need to I need to go see the preview
of that one again because I haven't seen that white.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
And if I had known you were doing this, I
would have been white Rastafarian Jack.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Dude.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
I didn't grow up wearing costumes. Dude, Like, I didn't
celebrate Halloween. I was at Hallelujah n a w uh
what do you mean was Witness No?
Speaker 1 (02:25):
No, no, nope, nope.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Group Black, Black, Israel.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Hite, No, just the regular old Christian, non denominational. So
I never I was always at Hallelujah United and didn't
celebrate Halloween. And then when Roman was born, like I
was kind of still into that, you know, so I
kind of poop pooed it with the kids, but I
would let them dress up.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
And then.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Denisia finally got me to dress up a couple of
years ago when I did the uh mighty uh not
mighty pups.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
What's the what's the other ones that? Like it's the.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Same, Oh the dogs, the cop dog?
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Yes, yes, yes, Oh, Chas is on the case. Yeah, yes, yeah,
the pups. So I dressed up as that and had
a cool suit. So I've done it a couple couple
of times now.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
But so the you're like late to late to Halloween.
That's fun.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
So the kids had So I've been to the kids school,
like they have these parades and all of this stuff,
and people were I was not even recognized. I'm always
at school, was not even recognized there. H the volleyball
coach who my daughter plays for, was like, uh. She
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was like, oh my god, who is that. Who's that
big white guy standing next to Kenyon Kenyon Martin. This
is what she says to her her husband, and because
she's looking at me from the back, she was like,
I've never seen this dude before in my in my life.
And then her her husband was like, that's George. She
was like, that is not George. What are you talking about?
And then she peeked over to the side. She was like,
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oh my god, I did this this costume.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
So like O. J.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Simpson dressed as Kato Kailin. So did you like then today,
I know your kids are in the Minecraft. Did you
like the Minecraft movie?
Speaker 1 (04:29):
It was long? It was long, it was going on long. Yeah,
it was talking in the theater.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Yeah, I get it. It was just a little long
for me. I didn't think I was going to be
as well received as it actually was. But the kids
loved it. And when you make movies for for kids,
you make more more money because the kids can't go
to the movie theater all by themselves. A parent has
to take them or some adult so you so you
automatically sell way more tickets.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
You're right, I loved about that movie. Is it highlighted
just how bizarre the Storage Wars people are. Oh like
they are trying to make rent off that stuff?
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (05:14):
All right, So you you ever been a storage I
know you like investments, you ever been a Storage Wars guy? Dude?
Speaker 1 (05:19):
I used to love the show.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
I wanted to do it, but I've actually been a
victim of Storage Wars. So I when me and the
wife when we were together, and this early on the
small house, big family, and so we needed some more rooms,
so we had to put some stuff in storage. When
we moved to a different house, I thought I got
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everything out of storage, but there was a box that
was actually pushed further toward the back because it had
like a shelf on it in it and I didn't
get the one box out of the shelf, and it
was her wedding dress.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Bro, nice expensive wedding dress.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
And so about once every six months she's like, somebody
mentioned something about a wedding dress and I see and
I see her like die a little on the inside.
But then I try to make it better. And I say, babe,
it was one dress one day, like you know, I
love you, but you you were never gonna wear it again.
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She was like, I could have given it to Devin.
And I was like, she's taught like that. It would
not it would not work. And she was like, whatever, George.
So I try to make it better, but there's no
making it better.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
That's rough. That's a forever mistake that'll keep coming up.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
I got a I just buy a new one.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
No, no, no, absolutely not.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
So do we renew our vals just so I can
get a new dress.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
You might have to. You might have to, But that
dress is gonna have to be like enshrined, like you're
at a planet Hollywood restaurant. It's gonna have to be
in a glass cows.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
You're right about that, bro.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
You I got a storage story for you that involves
college football.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
So my dad owns like a painting company and he
gets contracted out by the rental property management companies sometimes, okay,
and they'll you know, they'll flip stuff over so that
they can rent it out to the next person. So
you just go in. If they left stuff, you'll move
it all the garage so that somebody can come and
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pick it up and haul it off to like usually
it's not stuff they wanted to keep, so you know,
you call like a junk caller, they'll come take everything
to the dump. Then you'll just sand blast everything, white,
change couple doorknobs, do some dry wall, and then it's
ready for the next person to come in and have
their kids white boogers on the wall for a year.
So that's the rental flip business. And I would be
included in a lot of these painting, prepping, hauling, junk
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and stuff like that. Did it from like very young age.
And one day we go to this house in Arizona,
uh and it's like a nicer house, and everything in
it was nice that got left behind, And it became
very evident, very quickly that this was an NFL player's
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house that he was just in town because he was
on a team for a short amount of time. And
I don't know what you did, like when you had
your cup of coffee in New York, did you rent
a place for like a six month stretch, Like what
did you do?
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (08:26):
I was in like a corporate housing type type place.
It was a it was an apartment like apartment condo
type type deal.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Furnished all of that stuff.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Yeah, so I feel bad about this. I'm about to
admit to a crime. I will rectify if this player
watches this and it reaches out. But like we you know,
we go to this house and everything's kind of nice,
and I go into the closet and there is a
game worn Clemson Bowl jersey, and so it becomes very
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evident who this player.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Is, yeah, because you see a name on it.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
The last name, and then there's like shoes for days,
you know more, there's a lot more clothes than there
was furniture or anything else. And so we're moving everything.
We're hauling everything to the garage. And this man had
a five gallon water cooler jug in his closet filled
with quarters.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
That's something that that you would see me have.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
It is very like nineties early two thousands, Like in
every home is just a giant change jar. I have
like thirteen cents in my van's ashtray and that's all
I got.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Well, but I used to have a lot.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Now I don't because I don't even want to touch
them nasty coins now.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
And you spend so.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Much with with with cat, with Cat, well with cards.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Dude.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
There was a point in time in my life where
I always at least had ten thousand dollars on me always.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
And I saw ten thousand dollars one time.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
In between ten and fifty thousand dollars because I just
play a lot of poker, and yes, a lot of poker, yes,
and some of these home games and stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
But now I don't just a little throwaway comment home
poker games, not that those are in the news right.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Now, I know, right, Oh, dude, I made a video
about it, but I'm I'm nervous if I should even.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Put it out.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
If you get yourself arrested by the FBI and make
for a good story, that that'd be good content, especially
if you get hauled away wearing that.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
So all right, yeah, so dude, I hope I'm pretty
sure it's passed the Statute of Limitations on your on
your thievery well.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
So as you can imagine a five gallon I think
five gallon water thing is forty pounds. Yeah, imagine it
three quarters the way filled with quarters. So I had
to get a dolly. I hauled the and you know,
there's probably a few hundred bucks in change in this
five gallon drum. But stuffed at the top was a
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roll of ones. Stuffed it was like a makeshift lid
for the five gallon yeah thing, I pocketed the ones
I did. I was fifteen. I feel bad about it now,
but Patrick Sap, if you hit me up, I owe
you like one hundred dollars, all right, So.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Here's the thing about it. So here's the thing about it.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
You know how the Good Book says that when you
steal something, you got to pay it payback time time seven.
That's probably what what happened when your car got stolen
from the amp of.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
That was my recompense for stealing one hundred dollars from
Patrick Sap when I was fifteen.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
Well, what's crazy is like I don't know if he
ever got any of that stuff that. I don't know
if he got like the his dude soldier.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Dude.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Sometimes people lose stuff in stories that and like memorabilia
and they can't get it back, and that is like
I would imagine that would be pretty frustrated if.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
You if you got any connects. I know, he's a
few years older than you. You got any connects, I'll I'll
get you your hundred bucks back. Patrick.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
All right, onto the business of the of the day.
It's college football time. It's college football season. We are here,
and so last week was absolute like there wasn't really
any chaos, not necessarily, but we ended up with coaches fired,
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people looking for coaches. It's James Franklin going to Virginia Tech.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Now.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Matt Ruhle put out a video talking about how much
he loves how happy he is in Nebraska. Oh oh,
why wouldn't you saying that before you got your new contract?
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Path dude. It is.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
It is a bunch of scamming going on amongst people
that I that I like in general, because I know
a lot of these college football coaches, and so we
always start with our you know, with our thoughts for
last week. So I'll go first this week is college
football coaches are scammers and there is plenty of money,
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but the well will run drive. And this is not
all college football coaches. Let's take Matt Rule for example.
This was scammer behavior. And I don't and I mean
that in like a positive like he's not a trickster.
You know that he's not just getting over that. He's
trying to do a good job. But why didn't you
just say from the beginning, I'm staying at Nebraska. Schools
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will give you a new contract without you having to
like hold their feet to the fire because or the
reason why you're doing that is because you haven't done
a good enough job to warrant a new contract. But
you're forcing them to give you a new contract. So
his buyout goes from forty eight million up to seventy
one million.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
And yes, that's a good business move.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
But at the at the end of the day, if
you do a good job, they will reward and you
don't have to If you got to threaten to go
somewhere else to get a new job, then number one,
you probably really don't want to be there, or number two,
they don't really value as much any anyway. So it's
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a best it's it's a it's it's a bad precedent
because and then when you have coaches, when you have
people say, oh, we'll just offer this coach fifteen million dollars,
well that sounds like a hostage. Because if somebody's making
five million and you're offer them fifteen million and they
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love where they're at, They're gonna be like, bro, this
is weighted like it's one hundred million dollars.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
How am I?
Speaker 2 (15:18):
And I'm making I got twenty five here, one hundred here.
I'm now a hostage. I don't even want to be there,
but I'm forced to be there. And you don't want hostages,
you want willing participants. And there's plenty of money to
to pay the players all of this because one hundred
and sixty hundred and eighty million dollars buyout money already
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committed plenty of money to pay the players.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
But there's not. But for some reason that's looked at poorly.
I'm off my soapbucks.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
I think Matt Matt Rule has a weird amount of
leverage in that, like this is the college where he
walked on. Penn State was so it was a very
unique threat, right, and then.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Yeah, but if he was also he was going to go.
It wasn't going to be for money or not for money.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
That's true. That's true. You're also Bowl eligible for the
second season in a row, which for Nebraska shouldn't be
a big deal, but it really is because they had
the gap from twenty seventeen to twenty twenty four and
they don't want to take one step backwards. And that's
fully understandable. The other thing is Matt Rule started a
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podcast with a dude from Pennsylvania and he's in there
standing up at his desk like he's Pat McAfee or
Cam Newton running this show every week. And I think
there are little seeds of paranoia that are planted in Nebraska,
you know, fans heads of like is this guy all
in or not? And I think this will bring some
relief to that situation that he locked in.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
But I just.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Great question.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
If he wins ten games and then next year some
you know, Alabama comes open, is he then gonna.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Be like, oh, you know, that's a great question. And
I so I'll give you my takeaway, and it's that
I'm realizing that college football head coaching jobs are actually
not that different than just regular corporate situations. Right, So
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you have three very distinct situations. You have. I'm probably
the only one who can do this job. Therefore I'm invaluable,
and I pay for myself, and that is my And
there's alignment from top to bottom. So your athletic director
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and the president of the university are going to reward
you based on you being able to accomplish something that
nobody else really has been able to accomplish, and you
understanding the situation as well or better than anybody else could.
Your raises aren't necessarily contingent on the threat of somebody
else coming to get you. That's like a Dabo Swinny
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type situation where it's like, oh, like Dabo is the culture.
We weren't anything before he got here. You know, he's
over the last seventeen years, we're probably the second best program,
and so you know, we're all in agreement that this
is going to work this specific way. There's a lot
of jobs in America that work exactly like that. Then
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you have the adversarial relationship or multiple climbers being involved,
and I think this might be maybe closer to the
Matt Rules situation. You have an athletic director that just
left two jobs for better jobs or better pay or
whatever else. Troy Dannon went from Tulane to Washington and Nebraska,
and he did it in three year period. So you
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can't like, were gonna bullshit a bullshitter, You're gonna go
to his office and be like, no, I'm totally happy here.
I'm sure that's a line that Troy Dannon has fed
to other people. So you got to actually like play
the game of the of the situation in order to
get what you want. And the people you're playing the
game with understand that it's a game. They might not
one hundred percent be on your side, but they've played
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it too, and so it can be adversarial, but you
can also work together for the common good. Then you
have this other situation. And this is why I want
to bring up Kenny Dillingham because he was on the
cover of the article for The Athletic of who could
be replacing Brian Kelly at LSU. And there's no like
inside information or reason for it if you open the article.
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It's just we got to throw some names out and
stir the pot. Kenny Dillingham can not come out and
say what Dan Lanning says, which is like I'm exactly
where I want to be, even though Kenny Dillingham has
the same views as Dan Lanning. And why can't he
come out and say that question, Well, because him and
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his athletic director are on the same team. And this
is how I think a lot of jobs in America work.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
I don't what you mean.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
So your boss is in on it with you. They
also want you to have more resources and to have
a raise, but they're gonna tell you. I can't go
to my boss without some leverage. So if Kenny Dillingham
wants more money for recruiting, if Kenny Dillingham wants more
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control over you know where anil goes. If Kenny Dillingham
wants to see his vision through of having like an
indoor tailgating facility, he can't turn down anything publicly because
it wouldn't be in his athletic director's best interest for
him to do it.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
I see what you're saying, because and I've said this
consistently that Kenny Dillingham is not leaving Arizona State right now,
that we are at least a few years of being
under resourced away from it even being a threat. But
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there needs to be a threat for his boss to
then be like, hey, yo, like I don't know what's
going on. I know he loves it here, but we
never know if you know. And I actually don't believe
that Kenny Dillingham wants more money. I mean, of course
everybody wants more money. I don't think that the ask
for for him is pay me more money. I think
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they ask for him is give me more resources. Because
if you give me more resources, you will pay me
more money.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Yeah. Yeah, you set me up for success. I'm like,
success will eventually reward me on the Yes, it's a
pretty like good and holistic way to look at it,
but you had to play the game. And I think
about it this way because my wife's worked for the
same company for eighteen years now and she's been promoted
eleven or twelve times, and her direct boss is on
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her team. Like you know, I'm I'll like witness conversations
just in the periphery because we both work from home
where it's like, hey, if you want this for your
people or you want this for yourself, I need leverage.
So like you want one of your people to get
a raise, I need to know there's a thread of
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them being poached yes, bring me an offer letter from
somebody else so that I can justify getting your person
what they need to stay here. And so like that,
I look at that, and I look at a situation
like Arizona State and some of these other situations where
people are coaching at their alma mater. Dan Lanning is
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afforded the ability to come out and just know that
he's going to get taken care of, so he can say,
I'm exactly where I want to be. I'm not interested
in any of these jobs. That loyalty is going to
get rewarded on the back end he's getting paid, yes.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
And and the thing is is that the thing that
people don't realize is is that last year when the
Alabama job came open, that's not when he got a
new contract. So he didn't leverage that into a new contract.
They gave him a new contract months and months after that.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Right. And so if you're Brent Key, or you're Jeff Brohm,
or you're Kenny Dillingham, and people bring this stuff to
your doorstep, you got to be like, I'm not focused
on any of that. You have to leave the door
open for the possibility that you can take off. You
have to because you're boss.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
If where, if I'm where I want to be, I
would come out and I would say, look, I love
being here. I'm not leaving here as long as we
continue to like there's no chance, as long as we
continue to.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Do the resources. Blah blah blah.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
That's what I would say, because that explicitly says there
is a threat, but only if you don't handle your business.
But because I gotta handle mine as far as coaching, winning, recruiting,
all of this stuff, but I need the tools to
be able to do. So, Yeah, that's what I would do.
But that's just gar Garrison.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
You know me, I'm a dumb ass. I'd be like,
you're getting paid for this. You guy's getting paid. I've
been just hanging out here slaving away. Is there money involved?
Speaker 1 (24:49):
That's hilarious, But I don't know.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Man, It's been a circus. So that that was my takeaway.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
My main topic for you, George is did LSU go
from being this greatest job available to everybody was talking
about to a job that it is maybe not one
you want to take. And the reason I asked that
is because the Governor of Louisiana has turned this into
a reality show, and you have like Urban Meyer, who
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you know, his name gets floated out for all sorts
of stuff. We know he's not going to take any job,
but you have him coming out here and being like,
why would anybody go to LSU right now if the
government's involved?
Speaker 2 (25:35):
The yes, and that because they don't have a president
of the school and this is not a a booster
funded I told everybody, and I said initially when I
did the reaction video, I said, Brian, I was like,
the reason why the governor had to get involved is
because this is a public money buyout and this is
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not a privately funded buyout. And then there was some talk, oh,
there's a privately funded but I was like, so then
there's privately funded, why the hell you need to get
the governor involved?
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Exactly. So, so now it's.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
A situation where the head coach at LSU is therefore
a good time and not for a long time, Like
you don't make it their long term, Like when when
is the last time that they have had a a
long term head coach?
Speaker 1 (26:36):
I'm pulling up there there, Yes, that probably be it.
So you had oh.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
So you had Brian Kelly there almost four years Ed
Oderon one, two, three, four, five years, Less miles.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Oh, that's good.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
One two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven,
twelve years, Nick Saban for five, Jerry DeNardo what four
or five years? Curly Hallman four years, Mike Archer four years. Dude,
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this is a litany. You gotta go all the way
back to the eighth to nineteen seventy nine where you
had Charles McClendon there from sixty three to from sixty
two to seventy nine. Like, this has been a turnstyle
job outside of less Miles, and they would have got
less Miles up out of there if.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
It were this era too.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
I think that, Yeah, this feels like an NBA contract,
like a three year Supermax. You know, this feels like
a job that Kevin Durant would sign on for.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Yes, yes, exactly.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
So if you want to have any longevity with your family, stability,
any of that stuff, ls you went to place for you,
it is not. And also so LSU does have built
in recruiting advantages because it is ingrained into the state.
It's not like there's another college in Louisiana that people
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are like clamoring to go to. I mean, of course,
Tulane is good, Louisiana is good. Yeah, I mean like
that LA Tech has had some some some history. But
you know, compared to other states, like if you if
you go to Georgia, there's Georgia, there's Georgia Tech. What
else is in Georgia.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
Georgia Southern Georgia State.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Yeah, but but like Georgia's king there, right, yeah, but
but Georgia Georgia Tech can make some in roads because
it's still a p for a school in Louisiana.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
That's it. That's it.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
In Florida, you got Florida, or to state Miami. Those
are a lot of options. So the kid, so you're
built in recruiting advantages is in the state of Louisiana,
so that yes, you do have But as far as winning,
that's different.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
You can win at almost anywhere now where you have resources.
And I think that that's the biggest difference is that
it's not that LSU is not a great job, because
it is because you can recruit there, but they also
have some financial limitations in that the state doesn't have
money like that. This is why the governor had to
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get involved and why this is such a big deal.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
Right, Now, if I'm LSU, and I can't even put
myself in that mindset, But if I'm LSU, I want
somebody who is that works really hard at the job
of trying to win football games, knowing that your school
is gonna recruit itself, knowing that NIL is about to
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be regulated in a way where you can take that
job off of really the head coach's played altogether, and
it makes a boring dude like Matt Campbell attractive to
me in that situation of saying, we just need somebody
who knows how to coach college kids to win football games.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
I'm not hiring Matt Campbell there. And I like Matt
Campbell a lot, So it's not that I don't think
he would be a phenomenal head coach. Number One, he's
a sitting power forward coach, which is a bad idea
to hire him somewhere else.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
History says that doesn't work.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
The last time it did work was somebody hiring somebody
away from Iowa State. Though, ironically enough, who uh your
boy that won with Cam Newton. He got hired out
of Iowa State after going to Yeah, gene Chiswick.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
And then the other thing is I think that in
Louisiana you need somebody who understands the culture. I feel
like John Somemerl is the right guy for that job.
He's into lane, he knows Louisiana, knows the coaches there.
He'll be able to recruit at a very high level.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
There is there something about being a lower level coach?
Is there something about being a low level coach where
you get your teeth kicked in if people mention you
for a job because they gave up thirty one points
in the first half last night to UTSA and.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Yes, bro, these coaching rumors cost And I was talking
to an agent and I talked about this on the
Live YA yesterday.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Is that.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
These agents and some of these coaches are terrified of
these interviews right now, Ralph. They're terrified because they know
that at the point in time it gets out that
they are interviewing now, all of a sudden, people are
questioning their loyalty, their question in their like, their their commitment,
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They're questioning everything. So now that I know that players, yeah,
and your best players are now like oh coaches shopping around,
maybe I should listen as well. And as soon as
you give the ear to the streets. The streets gonna
take some of it.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Now that I know that's true. Don't you think Matt
Campbell would be so good at LSU? I.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Oh my god, because they're they're playing as U. That's
dirty work right there, That's nasty work.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
It wasn't my plan, But now that you said that,
that that there is a cost.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
I mean, I just think he would think about that.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
As soon as the the the Matt rule rumors started,
Nebraska played their worst game of the season against Minnesota.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Mm hmmmm, the irony.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
I have a So my son brought this up, and
it's for you and you only you'd laugh at this.
So I told him as a as a young Washington
fan who knows why. I was like, hey, you guys
might lose your coach. And he's like, everybody might lose
their coach. And I'm like, yeah, but you really might.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
You know what I said, losing their coach.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
Oregon.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
You know who else is not losing their coach in Miami.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
It's very funny how quickly you started flexing on people
that your coach isn't available when you when you were
a turnstyle program whoa Chim Kelly and Mario Christobal and
Willie Taggart. You're out here on your fourth marriage, given
marriage seminars.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
Notre Dame. They're not losing their head coach.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Hey, I will I will say, as a person covers
college football but also somebody who cares about it and
understands all aspects of this, it does feel nice to
know that your coach is not leaving.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
Yeah, it is nice. But I asked him. I was like,
what what do you want if you lose another head coach?
And he told me he goes Jerry new Heisel. Well,
this marketing works, those little clips you see on Instagram,
and he he didn't even know Jerry new Heeiseel's history
with his dad be in Washington. He didn't even know.
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He just saw clips of Jerry new Heiseel leading post
game chance and he's like, that should be the next
head coach.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
University of Washington's not the actual marketing coach Tim Tim Skipper.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
But okay, and so that's a Tim Skipper stuff. I
gotta bring this up with you as a four fifths
white man. Every single post I see that that that
deals with Tim Skipper is like, this is racism, right.
I'm just want to float that out there, What is
your take on that?
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Okay, so so it's.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Very tell people what we're talking about. Tim Skipper is
the interim coach of UCLA.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Correct.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
And but when whenever they win, you see Jerry new Heizel.
But then when they just got blown out by Indiana,
which everybody except Oregon has well and Iowa, they were like, oh, oh, Tim,
Tim Skipper, we sure he should get the head coaching job,
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Like what And there were people who were floating about
that Jerry new Heisel should get the job. I was like,
first of all, he's thirty three. That doesn't mean that
he can't eventually be a big time head coach and
all this stuff. I was like, well, I guess they
could make him and his dad like co head coach
and he's the head coach in waiting because his dad
can be the adult in the room and but he
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still be leading things. And then I was like, hold up,
how's that gonna play out? You don't hire Tim Skipper,
the guy who's right at.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
The ship for little alleged whiz kid over over here.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
That's not gonna play well in the like that ain't
gonna go over well. You would actually lose all of
the good will that Jerry Neuheisel has by by passing
up the guy who actually did the job for him,
that would not go over well. And then if you
add in that he's a black man too, it's it's
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gonna get blown even more out of proportion.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
Yeah, that the Internet will Internet for sure, and then
you will see it. You'll see an all time interneting
Internet reckoning if if that ends up happening. I do
want to stick on U c l A for a second, though,
as someone who has famously signed a letter that became
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public having to do with hiring and firing out of college.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
For those of you don't know, there was a there
was a coach opening at Oregon and the players wanted
to be brought back into the program and have a say,
and decided that the man that would be best for
them is one that they used to play alongside, and
justin Wilcox, people signed their name to it.
Speaker 3 (37:25):
I'll I'll give you, I'll give you the floor here
in a second. But I say all that to say this,
and George, you can you can explain yourself away, but
I also want your take on this. They say it
like fifty some former players just wrote a letter wanting
Martin Jerman to get fired at UCLA. You got some
connections at UCLA, so I just want to know what
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is going on here and is this active way to
get what you want? Having participated in something similar.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
So I was not first of all, yes, this is
a way to get what you want. But thank god
because I actually had to call Oregon's athletic director after
Joey put out because joe to go back. Joey Harrington
calls me, George, we want to talk about the program
blah blah blah, like we feel like it's getting away
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from the Oregon roots, right, the players aren't really back
and all this. I was like, hell yeah, And my
thing was, yes, Justin Wilcox should be considered for this job. However,
we can't just give him this job because he's got
to recruit better. He's got to be more intense in
that area.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
Blah blah blah.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Believe that you can recruit the best class in the
nation to do Eugene and all of this stuff. And
then that got turned into so what Joey talked to
me about versus what was in the letter, It's two
different things. And then so I ended up talking to
the athletic director Rob Mullen. Devis was like Rob, Rob,
Rob Roy, Rob, hold on, I know my name's on there,
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but this is not what I was saying. I was like,
we need to hire So me and Rob had some
private conversations about it. He was like, Okay, I understand
what you're saying. This makes sense. And then when the
Dan Lanning thing came up, I was like, oh, I
called and did some digging on Dan and I was like, oh,
this dude is legit. So I was on board with that.
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I was one hundred percent on board with that. I
actually would have hired him over Justin Wilcox.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
Do so what about UCLA? Do you think you think
this will have an effect? You think it'll change the
way Martin Jrynton does stuff? They issued us vote think.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
That Martin jarmint made a good decision in the process,
the best decision that he could when he was dealing
with Chip Kelly, he had just got the job.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
The prudent thing to do would have been to well.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
The best decision in hindsight would have been to fire
chip Kelly as soon as Martin Jarmond got the job.
That would have been the right thing to do. It
also would have been bully ball, like you just get
a job, you fire a guy like you don't even
have the full landscape of things, understand what's going on.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
That's not always a prudent choice, you hear me.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
And even if you wanted to bring your coach with
you from Boston College, he decided he didn't want to
coach college football anymore.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
Yes, so, so I understand him not firing chip Kelly
at first, and then chip Kelly leaves late in the cycle,
at the point in time chip Kelly was starting to
interview for other jobs, I'd have been like, all right, bro,
it's of for you to go.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
And then hiring Dashawan.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
He was already on staff, they knew him in the building,
well respected, all of these things. The issue is is
that it was kind of like hiring an inexperienced head coach.
If I were the athletic director, be like, listen, you
have to bring some former coaches in on this. That
not former coaches, former head coaches. We need analysts, we
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need this, we need that. And he was and Deshaun
Foster was under resourced and under mentored. If that will
with other people who were in the building that had
done this previously, and I believe that that's why it failed.
I don't believe it was for lack of effort or
lack of anything like that. And I believe that Jarmid
made a decent decision in that situation hiring him. But
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then they also pivoted off of it pretty quickly too.
Speaker 3 (41:43):
I'm I'm cured because they they got to trust him
to make the hire. They were trying to get their
foot in the door to get him up out of there.
But now.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
I think that Tim Skipper is going to if I
tell you, if he can win three out of the
next four games, absolutely, two out of the next four.
Speaker 3 (42:06):
Possible.
Speaker 2 (42:07):
Because they got USC Washington, Ohio State. They're definitely not
winning that game. And oh gosh, and then one more
game I can't think of.
Speaker 3 (42:18):
Hold up, let me look, well, they got the intra
city rivalry.
Speaker 2 (42:23):
Yeah, that's what I said, USC. Yeah, they got USC Washington.
Speaker 3 (42:35):
What if U c l A. What if USC beats Nebraska?
What if they get on the verge of a CFP
spot and it's U c l A that takes them down?
I do you think USC fans would react to that?
Speaker 2 (42:51):
Oh? That would that would mean that they beat Oregon
if in your scenario and then they to U C.
Speaker 1 (42:58):
L A, that would that would be fitting, That would.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
Be very they would they would hate Lincoln Riley again.
I oh have we talked about though, and Josh Payton
talked about this, but I have brought it up as well,
but less so about the ACC but more about the
Big Twelve and the ACC how they can actually end
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up with multiple playoff berths.
Speaker 3 (43:27):
I did see Josh Pate talk about this a little
bit and he was kind of heavy on the ACC
side because not a lot of the teams play each other,
which is true. They have seventeen teams, yeah, and eight
conference games, so you're not going to play everybody. And
there are unique situations with like a Virginia and a
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Miami where you know, if you get to the end
and you only have one loss, you can have a
one loss team not allowed to play in the a
SEC championship game yep, and then you have to give
them some consideration as well.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
Yeah, because you could end up with an eleven and
one Miami not in the conference championship game with a
win over Notre Dame, who then played, but then you
would have Georgia Tech in the conference championship game against
pick whoever you want to pick.
Speaker 1 (44:19):
You know, you can go.
Speaker 2 (44:20):
Virginia, Pit, Louisville, whoever you want to pick. And then
they beat Georgia Tech. So you got an eleven to
one Georgia Tech, who was inside of the top ten
for sure, because if they're if they're twelve, oh excuse me,
twelve and zero, Virginia Tech, who's gonna be a top
They're number eight right now, so they're probably gonna be
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top six, top eight. And then you lose a conference
championship game. Are we gonna throw Georgia Tech all the
way out to put another SEC or Big ten team in?
And then you got Miami sitting at eleven and one,
so you can't put Notre Dame in and eleven and
one Miami out because they beat them. And then over
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in the Big twelve, you got a similar situation with BYU,
who is undefeated if they run the table. And then
people keep bringing this up about other conferences, but you
got the SEC with Techa and m Alabama, Georgia, Ole,
Miss and Vanderbilt. None of them play each other in
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the rest of the season. Ralph Right and they're all
inside of the top ten.
Speaker 3 (45:34):
So this is how we're gonna get This is how
we're gonna get a twenty fourteen playoff for stanwn our throat.
It's gonna be this season because they form these super
conferences and nobody plays each other. You do have a
very bizarre situation right now brewing in the Big Twelve.
Because let's say Nebraska doesn't lose again for the rest
of the season. Okay, that makes Cincinnati's loss to Nebraska
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not so bad?
Speaker 1 (46:01):
Yes, correct.
Speaker 3 (46:03):
So what if Cincinnati beats Utah this weekend and then
eventually Texas Tech deals BYU their first and only loss,
and BYU turns around and deals Cincinnati their only Big
Twelve loss, you will have three eight and one teams
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at the top of the Big Twelve. Cincinnati will not
have played Texas Tech. They'll have the extra loss to
Nebraska that went down to the final play. In that situation,
I'm assuming that means that Cincinnati doesn't get into the
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conference championship because they have the worst overall one loss record.
But they're all tied at eight and one, so I'm
not actually one hundred percent sure if that's how the
Big Twelve is governed. Last year there was four seven
and two teams and I was state in Arizona. State
got to go. And I'm still not one hundred percent
sure why, yep, why it was so so that's good
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to me. That's gonna be a really interesting scenario because.
Speaker 2 (47:11):
So let's do a little paper math here. Okay, so
you got the SEC winner, so pick pick who you want.
Speaker 1 (47:19):
That to be.
Speaker 3 (47:21):
Let's assume right now it's Alabama.
Speaker 1 (47:23):
Okay, you got Alabama.
Speaker 2 (47:26):
Does Georgia lose to Georgia Tech, Yes or no?
Speaker 3 (47:30):
No?
Speaker 1 (47:31):
Okay? So then if Georgia actually let's let's assume.
Speaker 2 (47:38):
Georgia Tech beats Georgia Okay, okay, okay, so, and then
Georgia Tech loses in the ACC Championship to Louisville.
Speaker 1 (47:49):
Then you got Louisville with the automatic birth.
Speaker 2 (47:53):
A twelve and one Georgia Tech team that beat Georgia.
So so then Georgia Tech is one hundred in the
playoff because you can't put Georgia in the playoff and
leave Georgia Tech out after they beat them in the
last game of the season, right, So, now then you
got the Big ten champion.
Speaker 3 (48:14):
Who do you want to put in prior Ohio State.
Speaker 1 (48:17):
Okay, Ohio State.
Speaker 2 (48:23):
I think the thing we're figuring out Ralph and doing
this is that we need more spots. So we got
the SEC, Alabama ACC Louisville, but then Georgia Tech gets
in Big ten Ohio State Big twelve?
Speaker 3 (48:40):
Who gets in? So again, doomsday scenario. Let's say that
you have an eleven and one BYU playing an eleven
one Texas Tech in the Big twelve Championship and BYU wins,
which means BYU gets in, right.
Speaker 1 (48:57):
Okay, so wait, but that would then eleven and.
Speaker 3 (49:00):
One and eleven and one BYU in a scenario where
their only loss is to Cincinnati, who is ten and two,
whose only losses to Texas Tech. Do you keep a
ten and two Cincinnati team that's been to the College
Football Playoff already out? If they've got to win over
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the college Football playoff team.
Speaker 2 (49:22):
For BYU to finish eleven and one, they have to
hand Texas Tech another loss.
Speaker 3 (49:33):
Yeah, they would have to beat Texas Tech twice in
this situation, so BYU's in, Texas Tech's for sure out.
But you have a ten and two Cincinnati team with
a win over BYU. Do you have to consider Cincinnati, yep, exactly.
Speaker 2 (49:50):
So then you put Cincy on the bubble, and we
put BYU in, and I think we can put Indiana
in as well, okay, and then let's throw the G
six whoever that individual is. So we already got seven spots, okay,
and then we got is my Miami eleven and one
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in this scenario.
Speaker 3 (50:17):
They absolutely could be yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (50:19):
So now we got my three teams potentially, I mean,
what what are what?
Speaker 1 (50:26):
What are we supposed to do?
Speaker 2 (50:28):
And then we gotta get the the third big ten
team in assume that Oregon finishes eleven and one. They're
already at number six now, so now Oregon's in. And
then now we got nine spots taken, and I guess
we got.
Speaker 1 (50:44):
To give the other three to the SEC. So then
we got text and.
Speaker 2 (50:52):
M Georgia could be the odd man out because they
lost to George to.
Speaker 3 (51:00):
Tech, Virginia could be eleven and one into the ACC Championship, but.
Speaker 2 (51:08):
Then Georgia would have beaten Old Miss Yes, So then
it gets funky.
Speaker 3 (51:18):
What if Virginia wins the ACC and their only loss
is to Notre Dame.
Speaker 1 (51:25):
No, no, Virginia. I thought their loss was to n
C State.
Speaker 3 (51:31):
Oh, you're right, you're right, you're right. That's my fault.
That's my fault. Yes, they've lost two games, so they're
they're out unless they win the ACC.
Speaker 1 (51:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (51:44):
It's gonna be messy, and they're gonna use it to
justify uh, given these TV networks what they want, which
brings me to our final topic today, George, when you
leave the house to go to the store, what are
the two most important things like when you when you
go out and you So, let's say two things that
are sold by two different stores. What are they? It
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could be a type of grocery.
Speaker 1 (52:12):
What what two things do I need to go to
the store for.
Speaker 3 (52:15):
The most Yeah, but it has to be from two
different stores? Food? Okay, and.
Speaker 1 (52:27):
I don't need pet food anymore. What's the others?
Speaker 3 (52:33):
So let's say, Okay, so you you got a couple
of Mexican food spots that you really love out there, right, Yes,
Let's say your favorite Mexican food spot is right next
to your favorite grocery store.
Speaker 1 (52:44):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (52:46):
All you do in either place is spend money. Yes,
that's it. You have an allegiance to both because they
have something you need.
Speaker 1 (52:56):
Okay, But if you pull up in.
Speaker 3 (52:58):
The parking lot and you see the owner of the
Mexican food store fistfighting the owner of the grocery store,
and they both turn to you and they say you
need to pick a winner. What's your reaction to me?
What the hell does this have to do with me?
Speaker 2 (53:13):
Exactly like bro if no, I'm not picking a winner? No, no, sorry.
Speaker 3 (53:19):
So my question is, why does YouTube, TV and ESPN
just put out these statements asking us to figure something
out for them? What does it have to do with me?
Why are you talking to me? I'm watching two billionaires
fight and all I want to do is watch Washington
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State play at eleven pm Eastern. What does this have
to do with me? What? What is the point of
the pr battle? I actually am earnestly asking George. Why
do they appeal to us.
Speaker 2 (53:55):
Because they think that all we care about is watching
the game. That is what they know that come that
when it comes down to it, that is all that
matters is the ability to watch the game.
Speaker 3 (54:10):
But if they're both telling me that it's the other
person's fault, I don't have anything to say to you.
You will meet me in my living room to tell you.
Speaker 2 (54:21):
But Google or is either either put the game on
or I will find another way to watch it period.
So I think YouTube TV will probably be the loser here,
because if this is not fixed by Monday and people
can't watch Monday night football.
Speaker 1 (54:39):
They will be over to Hulu TV or the ESPN
app all on college football. We can't watch college football
on there, man. Hell no, I know it's a.
Speaker 3 (54:56):
If you type in any college football game on TikTok,
somebody will just set their phone up and stream that game.
TikTok doesn't care exactly. So I'm like, you want me
to pick a winner, how about you both lose? Yeah,
you'll chase me into the black market of consuming college football, yep.
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Like if it's not That's what I'm saying. Like, if
it's not safe for me to come to your Mexican
food restaurant or a grocery store because you guys are
out here fighting in the parking lot, I'll just go
somewhere else. So I don't I don't understand why they're
appealing to us at all, Like we have anything to
do with this, and especially ESPN statement calling Google a
multi billion dollar corporation, what do you.
Speaker 1 (55:38):
Think you are?
Speaker 2 (55:41):
And It's like, see that multi billion dollar corporation is
trying to take you away from your games.
Speaker 1 (55:48):
You need to stop them at once.
Speaker 3 (55:53):
This is like Nancy Pelosi out here being like, we
gotta do something about these millionaires exactly, Like, oh dude, okay,
I'm I'm sitting in my house. What do you want
me to do? I'm not gonna I'm not gonna solve this.
I just don't understand why espn PR is tweeting this
call to action amongst college football fans, Like, at the
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end of the day, you're trying to get my prices
to go up, and you want me to take out
my sword and fight for you. Exact yet, Vin, I'm
gonna pirate. I stole from Patrick's sap. I will steal
from you.
Speaker 1 (56:32):
That's hilarious.
Speaker 3 (56:33):
I'm done it. What are you looking forward to this weekend?
Speaker 1 (56:35):
Oh man?
Speaker 2 (56:37):
This weekend, I am looking forward to see Like there's
something weird in my gut.
Speaker 1 (56:44):
I feel like that.
Speaker 2 (56:45):
Penn State is going to keep this game close, and
I want to see too. I don't know why they're
favored by twenty and a half, and I just feel
like this could be a seven point point game. I
think they're going to play out of their mind. And
then the other thing is, I want to see Vanderbilt Texas.
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Everybody wants text to be so damn good. Okay, let's
see what you're talking about. And they want Vandy to
be so damn good too. So one of these two
things is not true, and exposure will happen. Texas is
three and a half way favorite Miami.
Speaker 3 (57:26):
Two.
Speaker 1 (57:28):
Will Miami survive? Smmu.
Speaker 3 (57:33):
I'm one hundred million percent with you on this Texas
versus Vanderbilt game. And here's the reason. Here's what this
means for people sitting at small colleges all over America
right now. This is a battle between a quarterback who
three years ago was at New Mexico Military Institute against
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the quarterback two years ago who was at Gardner Webb
outside of Gastonia, North Carolina.
Speaker 1 (58:03):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (58:06):
And that's the too mean arch meeting doesn't play. But like,
if you're sitting at some tiny ass college somewhere right now,
your moment might be two years away. You might be
two years away from playing for an SEC championship.
Speaker 1 (58:22):
Exactly, bro, exactly.
Speaker 3 (58:25):
Oh, this is out here rocking with a dude who
is splitting time at fair Est State at this time
last year.
Speaker 2 (58:32):
Mm, bro that that my friends matters, that my friends matters,
and and I actually love it, dude, because I'm actually
happy for these kids that they get opportunities because they
need them.
Speaker 1 (58:47):
And you're watching or they had a glow up.
Speaker 3 (58:52):
You're watching a kid ball out. You told me you're
watching a kid ball out at UC Davis right now.
Speaker 1 (58:56):
Yep, yep, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (58:58):
Cayden up Pinnick. He's playing very very well and you
could see him at a power for school next year.
He's the short king, but short short kings can can work.
Speaker 3 (59:13):
I saw a guy earlier this year at Northern Arizona
User University named ty Pennington, not the home improvement ty Pennington,
college football ty Pennington, And all of a sudden, I'm like, wait,
I think this guy's game translates yep, like everything is
on the table for everyone. And I told you, like,
as a Wyoming guy, I thought the nil era was
(59:33):
going to break us, and it has not, No, because
you got guys out there every single day playing for
you know, some people are playing for the opportunity to
get drafted. Other people are playing for the opportunity to
get on a bigger stage. It turned it into like
you go to a like a regional broadcast of the
play Hamilton where it's not the original cast. It's just
(59:53):
like some people in you know, outside of Denver or
something like that, and you're watching people give the greatest
performances of their life because all of a sudden, the
way to Broadway is through Denver or anywhere in America.
You're about to see everybody's performance level jump. And that's
what's happening right now in the nil era is anybody
(01:00:17):
who leaves high school and didn't get found by the
right people still has an opportunity. You could still get found.
And it's like, again, Ole miss could go to the
national championship. I believe they could with a dude from
fair State. Vanderbilt could go with a guy from New
Mexico Military Institute who knows what Texas is about.
Speaker 1 (01:00:38):
Talking to show win the Heisman.
Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
After that performance last week, you're like, hey, brother, let's
work on this as a legacy award and not a
statistical award.
Speaker 3 (01:00:50):
But I'm just man, it's just the college football is
so crazy right now. It's more interesting than it's ever been.
It's more fun than it's ever been, and I can't
wait to complain about who gets left out of the
college football Playoff.
Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
You're right, brother, and we get the first rankings this
next Tuesday. So I'm Jeice. You guys, I'm George Reister,
He's Ralph Anderson. This is the College Football Apostles, and
I'm Garrett Garrison. Have a great Halloween.
Speaker 3 (01:01:18):
Sorry, Patrick,
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