October 19, 2025 • 68 mins
College Football Apostles with George Wrighster and Ralph Amsden dives into the week’s hottest stories: Deion Sanders and Colorado Buffaloes hosting a Transfer Portal “audition” scrimmage, rumors of Adidas circling the Penn State football coaching search, and Michigan Wolverines pushing back on the Big Ten’s reported $2.4B private-equity deal. We break how apparel money influences hiring, what a mid-season portal showcase means for players and compliance, and whether this is the new normal. Mid-show bombshell: Indiana Football’s Curt Cignetti locks an 8-year, $11.6M extension at Indiana football—we react in real time and lay out what it means for the coaching carousel. Then a lightning round on public denials from Oregon Ducks Dan Lanning, Missouri Tigers Eli Drinkwitz, Nebraks Football Matt Rhule, Alex Golesh from USF football, and Syracuse football Fran Brown—are those statements legit or just noise? We also zoom out to brand context—how moves like these ripple across SEC, Big Ten, ACC, and Big 12 powers (think Ohio State football, Oregon Ducks, Alabama football, Georgia, USC football, Notre Dame football, Texas Longhorns, Oklahoma Sooners). Tap in live, drop questions, and bring your receipts.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
College football apostles.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
It's your boy, George Rice, the former NFL player, college
football player, college football.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Analyst over at c W.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
My main man, Ralph Amsden, who is the college football savant,
the college football rain man, and the man that knows
all the obscure stats. He should be your phone, a
friend if you need, if you were on Who Wants
to be a Millionaire? We got a lot going this weekend,
so some teams had their bye weeks, but there is
absolute chaos in college football. The SEC bias is at
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one hundred percent max right now. Penn State fired James
Franklin and the ripple effects are being felt all across
college football. Shoe companies are involved. This is absolute madness, USC, Michigan, USC,
Notre Dame. How good are these teams? And so much
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more Here on the programs. Make sure that you'd like subscribe,
get notifications, tell a friend about the show. We always
start with our biggest takeaway from last week? Ralph, what
was your biggest takeaway from Week seven in college football?
Speaker 1 (01:15):
As we had in the week eight.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
I think the Big twelve's got a contender. I think
Texas Tech can hang. I don't know, I don't know.
About winning the championship, but six games have gone by,
and through six games, David Bailey, who they added from
Stanford as sort of like a rush and linebacker Romelo Height.
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I think between the two of them is the most
successful edge rushing pairing in all of college football. They
have two good quarterbacks. Cameron Dickie's a fantastic running back.
The offensive line is blocked well. They are number two
in the country Georgian first quarter scoring and pretty easy
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to get things work.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
And I've been saying this that why on earth are
we ignoring Texas Tech. It's because they're in the Big Twelve.
If they were in the SEC, they'd be the number
one team in the nation right now. Oh they would,
they would happily. But but they want to keep jumping them.
They don't believe this Arizona State game this weekend is
going to go a long way into But at the
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same time, it won't because they'll.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Still be like, oh, it was just Arizona State.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
They're not even ranked right now, considering that they were
ranked last week and they just played without their quarterback.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
But you know who, who's who's counting? Who's counting?
Speaker 2 (02:46):
I mean, Oklahoma was playing without their quarterback. Their quarterback
just came came back and was buns because he probably
shouldn't have been playing.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
But hey, let's give Oklahoma to benefit of.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
I don't know if these Red Raiders have a weak spot,
but they have a lot of they have. If you
were to put together like an all Big twelve team
to run up against, they probably have four guys on
defense that in a conference of like sixteen teams. That's
crazy that Malcolm Rodriguez, Romelo Height, David Bailey like that
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these guys would all be on it. And then their
backup quarterback is one of the scariest prospects I've seen
in a really long time. Physically developed rocket arm can
run has poised like I and he grew up in
the shadow of University of Texas and he's playing for Tech.
It's pretty funny. It's kind of like Baker Mayvie.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
What the craziest part about the whole Texas Tech situation
is they just had a twenty twenty seven to five
star reclassify a twenty twenty six and people were mad.
Ralph people are mad. Oh see, this is just proof
that that college football is broken. College football is broken
because who the Texas kids. He was gonna take a
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trip to Georgia and he just canceled it. He's reclassifying
and he shut down his recruitment. He's more worried about
money than development. And it's like what what, Yes, Texas
Tech is buying an amazing roster. Joey McGuire is a
very good head coach. How many players has Texas Tech
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put in the NFL? Well, won a lot, but also no,
not as many as Georgia. But it might become like
Georgia if Cody Campbell keeps spending that money wisely.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
And it's like the NFL argument is so hard when
Patty Mahomes is out here, it's so difficult to.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Make they are I mean, Crabtree had a good career.
There's so many dudes that are just named brand as well.
But these are not the old days people. Yes, I'm
not mad at Texas Tech buying up the best recruits,
because you know what, for so long the have have
(05:00):
had so much and now they are getting run out
of the building.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
And I told everybody this was like Bane and Batman.
This was like Bane. He told them, Ralph, right.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
No, no, you did not. I loved you attributed probably
one of my all time favorite movie quotes to the
wrong character and just alarm bells going off in my head.
Earlier this week on on Afraid Show, Selena Kyle Catwoman
told Bruce Wayne that you better batten down the hatches
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because the storm's coming and all of you are going
to wonder how you live so long, so large, and
left so little for the rest of us. Like it's
time for the rich people to panic, and we're in that.
We're in that state of panic right now. This is
also this is kind of how basketball works. You have
people reclassify all the time. You've had quarterbacks reclassify. It's
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not and also like they still have to perform. It's
a risk to pay freshmen, it really is. Yep, I'm
an Arizona State graduate. They don't do it. They won't
pay a freshman. They'll wait until you know, somebody wants to.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Glory and Moore committed, they will, they will pay pay him.
I promise if they get more committed, they or they will.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
I promise you that.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
It's because they have not run into one of those
guys that was going to commit, that was that that
they felt like was gonna for sure be a starter
on day one, because I promise you when when when
he does, when Kenny Dillingham does.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
They will pay I promise you.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Hey, yeah, no, that makes sense. But it is risky.
It's very risky to pay freshmen, yes, and Texas Tech
has the resources to take that risk right now. And
also we're in the sort of in between of when
you can get somebody you know in on a on
a contract with getting money that is maybe outside of
the house, you know, because when does that go into effect,
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Because if you can reclassify and be a mid year enrollie,
maybe that first six months he's outside that and he's
able to get the figure out.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Second that you step on campus, that's when it has
to start. And they're trying to have where high school
kids have to then report their deals if they're being
paid from from schools. The house settlement stuff is still
a mess because only one conference has signed up for
the UH for the CSC, the College Sports Commission. Even
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though they all fought to be in there and get
it signed and get the house settlement, it's.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Still not resolved. People.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
I just want everybody to fully understand that no matter
what has happened, it's still not resolved. The College Sports
Commission has no power in terms of enforcement yet there
is nothing is being done, but they're just pretending.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
They're just kicking the can down the street.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
So all the people that fought for this are now like, yeah, yeah,
we're not gonna sign.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
It, so then you can get punishes. No, this is
this is madness.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
But my biggest takeaway was from this last week is
that what we just talked about, nobody's safe right now.
Oregon's not safe against Indiana, Alabama's not safe versus Tennessee.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Nobody is safe.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
When you line up in college football right now, you
are not safe. We are constantly seeing these lines fall
like they're way less two touchdown too touchdown and more
lines than you have ever seen, Like we should see
way more in conference thirty point lines. Nope, nope, And
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now them lines ain't even safe.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
The top of the twelve team Yeah, ever seen a
top twelve team be a road dog against an unranked team? Yeah? Exactly, yep.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
So I love it. I love it.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
But let's let's get into the topics. Ralph, where are
we starting at today?
Speaker 1 (09:21):
So?
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Uh, our storyline segment, I want to get right into
the Deon Sanders, thing that happened this last week. I'm
overjoyed that you were not aware of it. But Dion
Sanders held a portal hopper scrimmage during the during the
bye week. This is their bye week. They just finished
beating Iowa State, and Dion got his team together and
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he said, I'm not crazy enough to think that all
of you are going to be in this room next year.
Some of you are going to jump in the portal.
This is an opportunity for you to get some portal film.
So the first teamers watch from the sidelines while Colorado
held an intrasquad scrimmage on Wednesday at the Ford practice facility,
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and Deon said, it's gonna be game day. A lot
of you want to be in the game on Saturday.
So you're gonna get in this game right here, play
all out football, and we're gonna film it and we're
gonna cut it up. And if you do stay at Colorado,
this is gonna give you a measuring stick of where
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you're at and what you need to improve. And if
you don't, this is gonna be the film that you
cut up. We will hype it up, we'll give it
to you and We'll make sure you look good and
you can send this tape to other teams. What do
you think about this.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
George Dion Sanders, Okay, bring it in everybody.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
I could not love this any more.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
I could not love it anymore because Deon Sanders, who
I think.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Has abused the portal a little bit.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Right, he understands that and this is the right thing
for his players because one of the hardest things that
kids suffer with. I'm talking about the kids that get
stuck in the transfer portal, whether they get pushed out
of a school or they voluntarily choose to leave, is
when they have not played. It is hard for them
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to get to convince other places that they can play
football because they haven't played and all they have is
cut ups from practice. Oh, they're on scout team and
all this stuff, and it ain't the same, Like it
doesn't feel the same. But when you have you know,
if you're a quarterback hopping in the portal and you
actually have live game reps essentially where somebody's trying to
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sack you, hit you all of those things, or you're
a wide receiver and you might get blown up and
you catch balls and all that.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Dude, This is.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
The perfect opportunity for kids to potentially get on the
field at Colorado or find a new place if they
choose to leave Colorado, or like Deonzai, use it as
a measuring stick.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
This is honestly great for the kids.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
But you have most coaches who do not have the
who don't have the foresight and live from a place
of scarcity that they wouldn't dare do this. You have
to be confident and be able to stand in who
you are to do this, because if not, you're like,
oh my god, my kids will hop into portal. Create
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a culture where they don't want to leave, a culture
where they know they're gonna get developed, a culture where
they know that they're gonna be able to get nil
money as well, and you will retain the majority of
your roster. Yes, some people will leave because it might
be best for them to leave for either personal reasons,
football reasons, financial reasons, whatever it is. And if you
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are a coach, that is part of your task is
to be able to help the kids in your program
to either get to a new program or to stay
put in your program. I love this from Dion Sanders.
This is this is the Lord's work.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
I get the feeling that he's not rooting on anybody's demise,
even if they don't show up for him in the
way that they would hope. I don't think he's a
grudge holder. I think he sees Cormoni MacLean out here
getting interceptions at Florida. I think he even though they,
you know, we figure that there's probably some bad blood there,
I think he's happy about it. I think he wants
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to see these young men succeed.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
And I like that. It feels like the most modern
era story. Though I can't recall anything like this. It
reminds me a little bit of the College Football Playoff
last year, when you know, Bo Prabula had to leave,
Devin Brown had to leave, but Kenny Dillingham had people
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who already picked like he had a tight end Marcuston Douglas,
who already announced that he was transferring back to Florida
State play in the College Football Playoff with Arizona State.
It's it is just the most modern thing. And I
know that there are fans of other sports who look
at this and they don't necessarily think it's a big deal.
Like if you're a soccer fan, like you could get
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players on loan. You know, there's things that aren't super
But if you're a college football fan, it's just a
new and different thing every single day, and you know,
say what you want, love it or hate it, you
do have to stop and really chew on this story.
It is very, very different. And then you gotta wonder, dude,
should we be doing this?
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Yes, you should be doing this, Yes you should be.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
And there are so many people that live from a
scarcity mindset, crabs in a bucket. Oh my god, if
somebody like I can't help anybody else out because that
might hurt me.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
No, that's not how this works. I love it. I
love it. Good good on beyond that, this is the
Lord's work.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
This is exactly what college football coaches should be doing.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Now. Okay, So to move on to our next story
and our next couple of stories. Actually, sometimes I feel
bad for you, George, because you are we're paired up
in this together, have been for many years, and we're different.
We look we look alike, and we're both great athletes.
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But there are some things in there that such as
like I am financially ignorant, not illiterate, ignorant, like I
just I kind of exist outside of a space of
where I'm concerned about the business of college football, and
I get caught off guard by a lot of things
because that's not that's not really my area of interest
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or expertise. However, these next two topics, they seem important,
and I do need you to explain to me why
they matter, why they are important, Okay, and one of
which you put out a tweet and you're getting some
backlash on it right now, but you alluded to the
fact that it is very possible Adidas is involved in
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guiding the hand of Penn State into looking for their
next coach. And so my question for you, George, and
what I think a lot of other people would would
question you on, maybe some with malice, maybe some with curiosity.
Why why would a Das be involved in something like this?
Their shoe people, there are apparel people.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
First thing is, Ralph, you've known me for a long time. Yeah,
how many times? Like what do you think about batting?
Average is when when when I tell you, because there's
a lot of stuff that doesn't go on air when
I tell you, like yo, like this is what's happening
behind the scenes, And blah blah blah, like what is
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my batting average? If I'm like, yo, yore, here is
what I heard, and this is how it's supposed to
play out, and here's what's really going on, and not
I think that this is what's happening. This is what
I'm told is what's happening.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
Yeah, I mean the stuff that you talked to me
about versus the stuff that you actually put out publicly
is probably like a five to one ratio. And so
you know, I would say that when you're putting it
out publicly, you feel really good when you're just talking
to me about it. So here's an example. You called
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me and said, this is what's going on with Dean
Sanders x y Z health issues. Here's what he's gonna
announce and win. You didn't say anything publicly about it.
You didn't like, you didn't report it. You didn't say like, hey,
I know what's going on. I know why he wasn't
at Spring. But he told me. And then I went
to my kids and I was like, hey, watch what
this press conference this is gonna be about. This is
(18:01):
gonna be really really interesting. We're gonna watch kind of
a man talk about his actual like medical procedures mortality,
that this is very different. It's gonna be a very
different thing that you're about to witness. And so like,
I not only did I trust you on it, I
trust enough to like sit with my kids and watch
this this press cover. Like I I'm somebody like maybe
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to a lot of people on Twitter, you're like blue
check mark former football player. But the conversations that you
and I have there is not not hyperbole, not guessing that.
That's just not how it is in our conversation. And
I'm also like, I'm pretty aggressively honest. And when I
when people do bloviate or they are vapid, I call
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that type of stuff out. That's not type of relationship
we have. When you tell me something's about to happen,
it's on the way. And when you tweet about something,
it means that you've gone far beyond just feel like
you're comfortable to talk to me about it. So I
not only is it a good track record, like I
would my news from you. I would, And that's not
(19:03):
me blowing smoke for the sake of this. I think
you know I'm I'm chronically honest to my own detriment.
I would trust you on anything in this regard. Okay.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
So with that said, the tweet that I put out was,
I said, let me find it. I said, per sources,
Adidas is involved with the next Penn State higher They
are trying to protect their massive investment. They did not
get Franklin fired, but are definitely pushing to get one
particular coach. Question is will he say yes? And what
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if they play into January? That was the tweet, And
mind you, this kind of followed up on the on
the heels of let me find the guy's name. It
is Mike Astey, who is a like he covers college
football for. He's a managing editor at West Virginia Sports now,
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Pittsburgh Sports Now, national writer at Yard Barker, contributor to
Sirius XM, and then a bunch of other places. Right,
So he tweeted out the other day essentially that Adidas
got James Franklin fired, or that they had a hand
in it because he wanted because they wanted to, Like,
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they're concerned about this brand deal. And if you don't know,
Penn State is switching from Nike. They've been with Nike
for thirty three years. They were actually the I believe
the first school that Phil Knight and company signed to
like apparel deal even before, or that they were the
first one. And now here's what I do know that
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Joe Paterno and Phil Knight.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Were super close, super super close.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
There was a building name that Nike after Joe Paterno,
all of these things. So and that Phil Night actually
got involved late with the with the negotiations. There's stuff
going on, like the Border Trustees is not happy with
their with Pat Kraft, their Penn State's athletic director because
they're like, yo, you didn't tell.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Us everything with this deal.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
You gave us notes and this didn't really match up
exactly right, and that the Nike deal was better long term,
but that the Adidas deal, which is a three year
of a ten year around three hundred million dollars. But
they're also going to here, here's the important point. Adidas
is contributing to to their NIL and then athlete branding
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and all of this stuff. And so they're going to
essentially saying that they're going to contribute to their NIL
stuff and sign guys to Adidas deals and then market
some of their players. And my entire and what I've
heard about this situation is exactly what I tweeted that
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pit that Adidas is pushing one particular coach, and there
was pushback and langdon trap well.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Did I say his name right?
Speaker 3 (22:14):
I don't make sure you get you don't disrespect your detractor, yes, Land.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Yes, yes, yes, so and and this is and I
wanted to say it right because I don't what there's
no disrespect that He was, yes, like you he's locked
in with with pen Penn State. And he was like, George,
do you think that that Pat Craft is gonna let
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a shoe company get involved get involved in this?
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Yes? Yes, actually I do.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Adidas is essentially, if you think about this, Adidas is essentially.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
A Penn State booster coming up.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Now, mind you, this doesn't start till next year in
twenty twenty six, but we're getting ready to think that
that Adidas, who this is the biggest deal that they've
ever done with at school.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
They have overpaid for this.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
Why can I can I interrupew you real quick because
Penn State fans might hear that and take it as disrespect.
Why is Adidas overpaying for this particular contract?
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Because number one, Penn State is one of the biggest
alumni bases in college football, they sell tons of merch
like it is one of the biggest brands, and so
Adidas needs them to be good. Adidas can't have them
higher and it not work out well. So this is
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no different than Oregon's biggest booster, Phil Knight. Do you
think that anybody gets hired in a significant position at
Oregon that impacts the bottom line?
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Ralph, whether it's basketball.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Football, even softball, that that that Phil Knight's not like okay,
I'm okay with that.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
I've seen his parking space at all ten.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Do you believe that that code that anything's happening at
Texas Tech without code significant, without Cody Campbells stamp of approval?
Speaker 3 (24:30):
Not right now?
Speaker 2 (24:33):
How about you know at Florida or Who's or Auburn
or any of these places.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Or Lex Westerner at or Les Wexner at Ohio State
or the giant booster that helped fund the Bryce Underwood
flip at Michigan, like some people got.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Influence, correct, And y'all don't believe that a shoe company
who's now doing in kind of an un precedented deal
is not going to say, listen, we need to.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Like like crapa crap.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Yes, you get to have your say so, but we
gotta stamp off on this because yeah, and sometimes that
help and all of this stuff, so we gotta be
okay with this.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Hire.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
Sometimes that phrasing is like, hey, let us know how
we can support you in this, followed by a long,
silent stare.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Yeah, hey, hey, hey, hey, you know, just.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Let's let us know as you you know, as you
move through the process, so we can be of assistance.
It stares you directly in the face, and you're like
it because because you can apply pressure without explicitly saying, hey,
don't do anything without without hitting us up.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
I'm letting you know that.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
And there's nothing weak or insulting about having that level
of power or for friend, they are in your corner.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Yes, yes, Like, for instance, my son, he's a grown
independent man, he's getting his own money, he's in college,
all of them things. Do you think that he's gonna
make a significant financial decision or something without that could
if it blows.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Up, I might end up having to help him out.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Do you think that I'm not getting a phone call
like like a dad, I'm thinking about.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Doing doing this? All right? Son?
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Go on or nah, don't do this because because if you.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
Do this, yo, yo, you're on your own. Yeah, you
don't want to be you don't want you if you
get into a three hundred million dollars deal, Like God,
think about just as a regular person. You got somebody
who invests thirty thousand dollars in you, like they just
in in something that you're working on, Like they're gonna
have a say, yes, this is three hundred million dollars
(26:58):
at what was? If I'm not mistake and Phil Knight's
like original contract. Yes, with any institution, this is a
this is yes, man, if I'm stepping out of bound,
this is a proxy war a little bit too.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Yes, Oh oh, it definitely is. This is Adidas and
Nike are at war right now. This this is a
war between the two of them. And that was a
shot across across Nike's bound And yeah, that that is
definitely a shot.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
So that you that you said landed, This is a
shot that landed.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Yes, this is this one? Was this one was?
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Oh god, what's that show I watch on on Oh,
there's a show I watch on Paramount now where they
killed the dude's son.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Pierce Pierce Broston's son can't can you look up the show?
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Yeah, I got you.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
So Pierce Broston is like, this gangster guy is like
a you know, like a crime family.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Yes, Mobland.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
He kills his son, and they basically are like, it's
like it's a shot across the back. They they they
could have killed the one that they didn't really care
about that that much, but instead they killed the one
that they actually cared about. He actually that mattered to him.
And that's what Penn State did. That's what Adidas did
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to the Nike. They kn't like, the only person that
you could have killed or got to more.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Is is Oregon.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
That's the only other way that you could have heard him,
heard him, hurt him worse. You couldn't have hurt him
worse with USC. You couldn't have hurt him worse with anybody.
And mind you, the USC contract is getting renegotiated and
all that stuff too, and Adidas is trying to steal
USC too. This is a whole other, whole nother conversation.
But uh but uh yeah, so that's the situation. And
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so we and you have heard the names Kurt Signetti
and you've heard the name Matt Ruhle involved in this,
People are like, oh, he would never leave there. Indiana
is a is a big time Adidas property. Yeah in basketball?
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Are they good in football?
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Now? Yes?
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Would Indiana is a and And mind you, I mean
this with all the respect in the world to Indiana.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
They have great fans and all of these things.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Indiana football doesn't matter yet they are not a significant
driver of revenue at all.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Indiana basketball is a whole different thing, whole different thing.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Like if we were talking about Penn State, and if
we were talking about Indiana basketball and Indiana fans should
be able to understand this. If we were talking about
Indiana basketball still in Penn State basketball's coach, what would
we be talking about. But now we're talking about Penn
State trying to steal Indiana's football coach.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
It's the exact same thing, except except opposite.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Indiana's just having a good a good run right right
now and they're trying to level up as a program,
and I've commended them. They're trying to do what Oregon has.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Done so and it's not it's not robbing Peter to
pay Paul to want Penn State to hire current Signetti.
It's all Paul to them. Yes, it's all Paul like,
so and you and I actually had.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
This feelish Indiana.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
They'll help backfield in Indiana or or they will try
to help out one of their other brands that that's
more significant.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
And you so you, you and I actually had this
conversation last year. I don't know if you remember this.
I called you and I was like, ooh, Adidas really
wasn't ready for Arizona State in Indiana to make the
college football playoffs. Because I'm an Adidas guy. I where Adidas.
My family wears Adidas. You know that. And I called
you and I was like, man, I got a friend
who went to school in Bloomington, and you know, I
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went to Arizona State and I'm on the website trying
to get apparel. Like they weren't ready. They didn't do
anything special. They didn't really move or promote the merch
all that much on the football end. They there was
no ultimately, like you know, you know a school that
they do promote is Washington. That is a school that
because I'm on Adidas website once a week looking at deals.
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My son's a Washington fan for who knows why. And
I got a neighbor, who's a big Indiana guy. I'm
an Arizona State gu. I'm always on the website. Two
of those teams made the college football playoffs and they
just weren't ready. They didn't have anything, couple of generic
T shirts. They really didn't move outside of their apparel plan.
They Who knows why Adidas has Arizona State. They had
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Indiana for basketball, and maybe Adidas had it for Hurley
like they were betting on Bobby Hurley being maybe better
than he was. But but you know a lot of
these are basketball investments and the football got good on accident.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Where do you think, Ralph, that Indiana football ranks amongst
Texas A and M, Miami, Washington, Texas Tech, Arizona State, Kansas,
and I'm talking about in football, Nebraska, in Louisville, n
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C State in college football.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
Last last This was not because you're not just factoring
in last year. You're factoring in when they signed these contracts.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Ralph, I am on Adidas site. I typed in college football.
Let me tell you, here's the exact order of the
brands that are on their site. Okay, Texas Tech like
like in terms of I typed in college foot football,
So so we can go to Texas Tech There Investments, Washington, Miami,
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Georgia Tech, Arizona. I'm just going in order of the
way that they showed up Texas A and M Washington
again grambling Texas Tech because it's because remember they are
big in the mahomes business. So Miami, Mississippi State, Arizona State,
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Texas Tech, in c State, Georgia Tech, Texas A and
M Nebraska, Kansas East, Arizona State, Miami, Texas Tech, Nebraska, Miami,
Texas Tech, Nebraska, Washington, Nebraska, Washington, Louisville, Louisville, n C State,
Mississippi State, Kansas, Arizona. Hold up, I'm at the end
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of the page. I haven't gotten to Indiana yet.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
No, And I text you about this too, didn't I
Adidas has so many red teams, the.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Ralph the next to there's one, two, three, four, five things.
It is the fifth to last thing on Adidas site
when you type in college football mm hmm fit. It
is on the second page, at the bottom of the
second page.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
So don't sit here and tell me.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
And then and and I'm and this is not a
knock on Indiana because I love what they're doing. I
love their trying to come up like this is no
knock on them, but this is no different than what
Oregon went through. Like, there's no difference. They're in the
same boat right now. So so it's not a knock
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on them.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Oregon was them.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
No. Indiana fans will tell you this that Adidas isn't
like that that they got good in football and they
didn't have, uh like a plan to really promote it.
And not only are you in the team apparel business,
you're also in the colorway business. So if you're on there,
like just in red and black and red and white apparel,
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Indiana is prioritized behind the Louisville's and in the Texas
Techs and all of these other schools that have that colorway. Nebraska, right,
red and white selling better for Nebraska than it is
for Indiana, and so it's not promoted very well. And
so you know, and again that's we're talking football, we're
not talking basketball, which Adidas I'm sure treats Indiana very well.
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There is a precious investment for them on the basketball
and I'm sure of it, but you know, I don't know.
I'm gonna deep this guy. We've had all these conversations.
It's just not you know, we're talking to each other
defending a point that I don't think you need to defend.
These are big time business investments, and these businesses want
you to succeed so that you will sell more apparel
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so that they can get their investment back on.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
So I'm this is no knock against Indiana, but reality
is reality. But there are some other aspects to it,
which with which is timing?
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Right?
Speaker 2 (36:17):
Kurtzignetti like, there there's kind of two paths, right, So
he would be my number one guy that if I
could get him, okay, because you're gonna bring juice, You're
gonna bring energy, like he's going to get out there
and Penn State is going to be talked about, like
Penn State is already one of the biggest brands in
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college football, but now you've thrown gasoline on them because
this dude's a maniac, right it, And and I mean
that in a good way.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
So he would be my first hire, but the problem is.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
I can't see And then also I think that you
have to factor in he was sixty one when he
got the Indiana job, so he felt passed over people.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
Weren't you know what I mean for a long time.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
And now he's sixty four and he's like, I'm trying
to get to a championship period. I you know, everybody
else they got their turn, this is my turn. Now
they are And he's got his boys with him. So
he and this isn't going to be a money play
because he's making good money at Indiana. He's making nine
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million dollars coaches pool is really good. This ain't about
money because if Penn State pays him eleven minute, there's like,
you don't really jump around for a couple of dollars
at that point, at that point in time. But this
can be about can I win a national championship here?
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So there is two and I do believe and I've
talked about the world's changing all this stuff, But there
are two paths Ralph.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
One of them is.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
What if Indiana wins the Big Ten and they don't
play till the second round of the playoffs in in
January and essentially January first, Mmm, you can't announce him
as your head coach.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
You cannot.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
So even if you having an agreement in principle, if
Indiana goes to go win a national championship.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
Can you count on.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
That it would be outside the portal window too? Right?
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Yes, So can you count on that to where you're like,
oh yeah, our our head coaches, you know, like, if
he won a national championship, can you count on the
fact that he's one hundred going to still leave? No?
Speaker 3 (38:48):
Right, that's tough. I mean, I just and then you
never know what's in a dude's heart and head. If
if he wins a Natty, why would why would he leave?
Speaker 1 (38:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (38:58):
Like, I can win, I can win win here. I
don't need to go nowhere else.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
Yeah, you've taken away the one doubt. What you need
is for in the Big Ten Championship for Ryan Day
to step on their necks for me to get in
his head. Yeah, which is what happened to Brian Kelly, right, yep,
It's happened to coaches all over the place, like I
need better players. Because one thing about college coaches that
we never seem to factor in all the way. And
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you watch how college coach acts when they walk onto
a campus full of players that got the last coach fired,
You'll know exactly what what college coaches are about. When
you see a college coach walk onto a campus where
the last coach got fired. They don't trust a single
one of those players, because you guys got the last
coach fired. You're not gonna get me fired. If I
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get fired, it's gonna be by players I bring in.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
And you know what Kurt Signetti would do the first
day when he gets announced that one of the basketball games,
he gonna walk.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
Up, walk on the court.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
F Ohio State, f Alabama, f Oregon, f all of him.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
We're gonna be better than them, am.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
I, because because that's what he did in Indiana. So
if you don't think he's gonna do it with a
Penn State logo, but I believe that Penn State should
hire one of two coaches. Brian Hartline, who is the
officer coordinator at Ohio State. His recruiting juice will translate buddy,
because he's the magic at Ohio State's wide receiver recruiting
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and at you know, just the recruiting in general. He
is the magic aside from the brand, of course, he's
the magic. I would hire him or which which he
can be named head coach and still coaching in the playoffs,
which is what Dan Lanning did at Georgia and then
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at taking an Oregon job, or I would hire Fran
Brown from Syracuse.
Speaker 1 (40:59):
Do you know how much.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
Juice either one of those dudes is gonna be able
to generate surrounding Penn State in press conferences and the like.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
Fran Brown with a Penn State logo is.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
Going to sign a top five class every year? Probably?
Speaker 3 (41:19):
Yah.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
But y'all want Matt Matt rule, and y'all want you know,
Nick Saban to come out of retirement and urban Meyer
and stop living in the past.
Speaker 3 (41:34):
Greg McElroy wants Pat Fitzgerald.
Speaker 1 (41:36):
Pat Fitzgerald.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
Pet Fitzgerald will do a great job of building a consistent,
very good football team.
Speaker 3 (41:46):
Now you know what?
Speaker 1 (41:48):
You know what that I love the recruit a top
five class every year, I don't know about that.
Speaker 3 (41:54):
I love the idea of Penn State bringing somebody in
who wasn't aware of what was going on in the
locker room. Uh, that's not a joke. I'm genuinely laughing
at the at the prospect of like anyway we can move. So,
while we're recording, Michigan has solidified their stance against a
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two point four billion dollar public investment in the Big Ten.
So Michigan is on record. Michigan Regent Jordan Acker just said,
enough is enough. Make no mistake. In five years, we
would regret this capital deal. George, I don't fully understand
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what this even is. Will you explain to me why
the Big ten is seeking out two point four billion
dollars and why Michigan USC have come out against it?
Speaker 1 (42:53):
Thank you, Michigan, Ohio State.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
You should be thanking Michigan right now because you were
on board, apparently with a dumb decision. USC. Great job
if you were fully against it as well. This is
one hundred percent lunacy. And the reason why because this
is private equity. Money es safely and I know that
part of it was going to be like the California
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Firefighters or Police department pension fund and all of this stuff,
private investment and private equity. You know, we were getting
ready to spend some truth because the lights just went out.
But what was going to happen to the Big ten
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on the back end of this?
Speaker 1 (43:40):
If you've covered college football.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
For any amount of time, if you've been following college
football apostles for any amount of time, this was going
to cause the Big ten to extend their media rights
obligation their granted rights for an additional minimum of ten years. Ralph,
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who at some point in time signed a groundbreaking twelve year,
two billion dollar deal that was the greatest thing that
ever was. College football had ever seen so much more
money than anybody had ever seen and is now defunct.
Speaker 3 (44:28):
Would you be talking about the Conference of Champions.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
Yes, the PAC twelve, Ralph, we have seen this movie
before extending your grant of rights for additional For this
eleventy billion dollars up front, that two billion dollars will
be chump change.
Speaker 1 (44:49):
In twelve years. That will be pennies on the dollar.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
The whole thing with these media rights deals is to
keep them long but short at the same time intermediate
deal so you can keep getting back to the table.
Only in baseball do guys sign the deals ten twelve years,
But they do it when they're thirty because they know
they're getting over that get their dollar cost averaging it.
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In this the Big ten is still in its prime.
It's always in its prime. Ask ask the acc how
good that that deal that was so magical to them
that's keeping them in their granted rights till twenty thirty five,
twenty thirty six, feels right now. It feels good because
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they they've held Florida State in Clemson hostage, but it
don't feel.
Speaker 1 (45:48):
Real good because you couldn't get back to the table.
Speaker 2 (45:52):
And now your schools are operating at a at a
significant disadvantage. So, Ralph, I didn't tell you what my
stance on it, why I was so far against it
prior to the show.
Speaker 1 (46:05):
But now that I've laid this out for you, what
are your thoughts?
Speaker 3 (46:11):
Well, if you're comparing it to the PAC twelve, then
you know how I'm gonna feel. That's that was the worst.
The conference I loved is now dead and gone. And
so you know, you have always been an advocate for
shorter deals and more opportunities to renegotiate, and so you know,
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again financially ignorant at times. I'm gonna go with you
on this one. I don't really care the big The
big ten is the has they're out here like to
be in a position where you turned two point four
billion down over eighteen teams or whatever. That sounds nice,
I'm trying to see what that'd be like.
Speaker 1 (46:54):
Yeah, exactly so.
Speaker 2 (46:57):
And Michigan's statement was like, yeah, this since essentially I'm paraphrasing, Yeah,
all this money is cool and all, but it doesn't
address costs, like like like we're spending too much.
Speaker 1 (47:10):
We gotta figure that out.
Speaker 2 (47:12):
And and like yeah, all this money sounds sounds cool
and all, but it don't address the real problems.
Speaker 3 (47:21):
Makes sense. Well, we got some breaking news, George.
Speaker 2 (47:24):
Yes, while we were when when when the lights went out,
we learned that Indiana will not.
Speaker 1 (47:31):
Be losing their head coach Kurt Signatty. He ain't going nowhere.
He will be at Indiana.
Speaker 2 (47:37):
The man just leveraged this thing into a new deal
that is going to pay him at eleven point six
million dollars per year.
Speaker 1 (47:48):
And you know what, he going home.
Speaker 2 (47:52):
And he gonna look his wife in the face and
be like, so are you saying baby? Because and by
that I mean because he was at Alabama. He wanted
to take that job at what what was it?
Speaker 1 (48:07):
Are you are you p.
Speaker 3 (48:12):
Are you p U I? Or whatever?
Speaker 1 (48:13):
Yeah, it was a Division two job.
Speaker 2 (48:16):
He takes the he takes the job, takes a significant
pay cut, a step back because he's at Alabama recruiting
coordinator and everything else, and takes a huge step back.
And she wasn't on board. At first she was like, yo,
you're making a lot of money everything as well, like don't,
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don't do this. At first, she finally signs reluctantly signs
off on it.
Speaker 1 (48:44):
And now and now the man who's gonna.
Speaker 2 (48:48):
Be one hundred million up before you can blink, before
you can blink, he one hundred million up.
Speaker 3 (48:55):
Not bad to get that at sixty four. That's a
that is the gamble paying off. And I know that's
the same age as Kyle Whittingham, who getting ready to
retire right now. Kurt Signetti is getting started. So that
the statement from their athletic director, I.
Speaker 1 (49:13):
Know what it is.
Speaker 3 (49:19):
Let go for what he said.
Speaker 2 (49:23):
He said, he's not fucking leaving. That's what That's what
the statement said.
Speaker 3 (49:30):
Direct her complaints that I'm mad at unafraid show dot
com uh at any inner university. We are committed to
performing at the highest levels in everything we do, and
no one has exemplified that more than coach Signetti put simply,
Siga is a winner from last year's College football Player
appearance in this year's Top three national ranking, the IU
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football program success has been tremendous. Kurt and Manette Signetti
are home in Indiana, and we are delighted that the
Signetti family will be Hoogier's for for many years to come. George,
what do you think eleven point six million dollars a
year could buy in Bloomington?
Speaker 2 (50:06):
Bloomington, Oh and after about five years, most of Bloomington.
Speaker 3 (50:16):
I'm thinking about. I told you in the University of
Indiana is one of the or Indiana University is one
of the best music schools in the country. Now I'm
looking at that and I'm like, oh, let me go
send my son there, get him on playing guitar and
and and and you know, maybe he can provide some
some acoustic entertainment for Kurt Signetty.
Speaker 2 (50:38):
Get off that dumb Washington idea. But yeah, man, I'm
happy for Kurt Signatty his third contract in two years,
which is wild, But he was making nine million already.
I don't believe that this deal, that him leaving Indiana
or not, was ever going to be about money. I
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don't think it was always going to be about and like, yes,
the school did clearly get get held hostage here, but
but actually I don't even think they got held hostage.
They were they were like, hey, Kurt, hey, Kurt do
you want to raise and they were like it was
like sure, yes, and then you.
Speaker 1 (51:22):
For the and it was like, I.
Speaker 2 (51:24):
Don't even think they negotiated. They were like, are you
cool with eleven point point six? He was like, yeah,
how much from my assistance?
Speaker 1 (51:31):
Twelve eight? Yeah? Cool?
Speaker 2 (51:33):
That works all right, Cool, let's go back practice. Like
I think that this was this was probably the easiest negotiation.
Speaker 3 (51:40):
Of all time, negotiating against nobody.
Speaker 2 (51:44):
So I believe don't is going to be about whether
he couldn't get to the if he believed he could
get to the playoffs, win a national championship in Indiana,
and if he was going to be willing to leave
to go to Penn State before the season was over.
Speaker 3 (51:57):
There. You don't do this, though, You don't unless it
was a risk that somebody could come and pay him more.
Speaker 2 (52:10):
Yeah, of course somebody could try to pay him more,
But I don't believe that it was ever gonna come
down to money.
Speaker 3 (52:17):
Yeah, and I appreciate Indiana taking care of him, for sure,
But like I'm saying, you don't do it unless you're
a little scared.
Speaker 1 (52:24):
Oh for sure, for sure.
Speaker 2 (52:26):
Hold on, let me, let let me listen to what
Indiana just re released from Kurt Signetti.
Speaker 3 (52:44):
Are we cutting this part? Are we just giving everybody
a moment of silence?
Speaker 1 (52:47):
No?
Speaker 2 (52:47):
No, no, no, okay, I'm listening to what he's saying
about it. You know, he's proud to be a Hoosier.
His wife loves it there, he loves the school. Oh see,
I appreciate this. He's like the way that they've embraced
us and loved us. Oh yeah, I just said I'm
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gonna work daily, work hard, and I appreciate y'all and
everything else.
Speaker 1 (53:15):
That's it. That's good stuff.
Speaker 3 (53:19):
Well, speaking of coach statements, I want to get into
our reister wrong segment. I'm gonna read you some coach
statements and you tell me if they are reister or wrong.
And these are about the rumors that are flying around.
Not everybody has spoken on it, but enough people have.
So let's start out with your boy Dan Lanning quote.
I've been very clear and adamant that I'm not going anywhere.
A lot of coaches use that as an opportunity to say, Okay,
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I'm either going to get a big raise where I'm at,
or maybe they really want that other job. I don't
want any other jobs. I've got the job. I want
reister wrong way to handle this.
Speaker 2 (53:53):
That is the reister way to handle it. That is
the one reister that it is emphatic. There's there's no
double talk. It is if you do the opposite, you
are a liar. You are a fraudster. You are a liar.
Speaker 1 (54:07):
That is.
Speaker 2 (54:09):
Like, that's backing. That's not even painting yourself into a corner.
That is locking yourself into a box. And I mean
like you like you didn't get painted in the corner.
You painted the corner and you stood over there like
like you painted yourself and called it a corner.
Speaker 3 (54:29):
Okay, next up, Eli Drinkwitz at Missouri. Uh, there's no
such thing as journalistic integrity on social media. There's just wild,
outlandish reporting. He's talking about himself and his assistant, Kirby Moore.
Kirby Moore never interviewed, He didn't talk to anybody at Arkansas.
It was all a bunch of bull crap. I don't
want to focus on that section. There's no such thing
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as journalistic integrity on social media. Rights to or wrong way?
Speaker 2 (54:57):
Wait he was he was asked about the Indiana job.
I'm sorry, worry about the Penn State job.
Speaker 3 (55:02):
No, no, no, no, no, he's so he's been linked to Florida,
to the potential to an Auburn, which are not open yet. Yeah,
and Arkansas, but Arkansas more so for his assistant, Kirby Moore.
So he's saying there's no such thing as journalistic integrity
on social media. There's just wild, out landish reporting. Kirby
Moore never interviewed, he didn't talk to anybody in Arkansas.
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It's all a bunch of crap. So he's speaking about
him being linked to jobs and his assistant being linked
to jobs.
Speaker 2 (55:34):
I'm gonna say that that is reister for right now
because Florida is not open and neither is Auburn. So
so what once those become open. Yes, the Eli Drinkowitz
will get calls and people have wondered if he would
go to Penn State. I don't believe that Penn State
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is the spot for him. People have asked me about
will Stein at Penn State. I was like, I don't
think that Penn State is going to I don't even
if will Stein did do a good job at Penn State.
I think that he would leave if Texas a and
m or Texas or Oklahoma became open and they offered
him because that's his region, that's where his fan is.
Speaker 1 (56:19):
All that stuff.
Speaker 2 (56:20):
Not that he not not the Penn State is not
a special place. But it's like Mario Cristoball at Oregon.
I don't think he would have left her anywhere except
for maybe Alabama and Miami one hundred percent short.
Speaker 3 (56:36):
So I'll step in and say hashtag Alabama for Miami. Yeah,
but I do want to say hashtag NOTDL journalists. We're
painting everybody with the same brun brush. There, Eli Matt
Rule quote, This is not a jumping off job. This
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is a destination job. This is one of the greatest
places in the world. I refuse to be distracted. That
is Matt Rule talking to Pat McAfee.
Speaker 1 (57:07):
Wrong. Wrong.
Speaker 2 (57:09):
You know what Matt Rule said that like because because
that wasn't even the whole quote.
Speaker 1 (57:16):
He was just like, listen, this place should be a
beast and all of this. You know what he didn't say.
He didn't say, no, I'm not leaving.
Speaker 2 (57:26):
He wants he either wants a raise or he wants
to PennState job.
Speaker 1 (57:32):
One of the two.
Speaker 2 (57:33):
There's a reason why he's saying no, And there's a
reason why his quarterback Dylan Ryola is he ain't going nowhere.
Speaker 1 (57:41):
If he ain't going nowhere, then why not say it?
Matt rule, say the words.
Speaker 2 (57:50):
Don't say the words two weeks from now, right before
they announce who the head coaching job is going to.
Speaker 1 (57:57):
No say it, say it now, if you.
Speaker 3 (58:03):
All right? Alex Golish quote this is at USF. Quote.
I'm never in my career outside of here chase the
job ever, and I don't intend to. I can promise
you I'm not talking to anybody. Some people will call
BS on it, and that's fine. Reis They're wrong Alex
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Golish's response to UH to the coaching Carouselister.
Speaker 2 (58:30):
I do not because I give all I give every
single G five coach of pass on.
Speaker 1 (58:37):
You can.
Speaker 2 (58:38):
You can BS your way through this whole thing. I don't,
because you know, there's a big difference in making you know,
one point five a year and making eight million dollars
a year and being at a power for a school.
I am not listen, Alex Goldish, you are one hundred percent, reister, buddy.
I know USF is a really good job and all
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those things, but and he might be making closer you know,
two and a half and maybe but not too much
more than that, if so, And he doesn't know whether
he's a candidate or not, Like he may not be
the top guy that they're gonna look at at, you know,
at some of these schools, and granted, just because you're
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not the top guy doesn't mean that you're not the
right guy. So I listen, he could say anything, he'd
be like, listen, I'm not leaving us LF, and then
he leaves. I wouldn't even fall to them. He's trying
to keep his season together. They are ranked now, they
might go to the college football playoffs. He might not
get one of these jobs or want the one that's
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offered to him, and he might be like, I'm gonna
stay over here. So he's got to keep his group together.
He's got to keep his team together, and he's got
to keep people foolishly believing that he's not leaving, that
he's willing to stay there and turn down other jobs
and turn that in a powerhouse.
Speaker 3 (01:00:03):
The last one I got for you is a long one,
and he took some criticism for it, and I'll read
you his quote that he took criticism for it, and
then his follow up quote, this is Fran Brown at Syracuse.
I'm working at Syracuse right now, so I really don't
need to talk about that. If this wasn't where I
wanted to be in the moment, would I be standing
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here at this moment. Yeah, So I'm just focused on that.
I'm focused on being here. I'm locked in on coaching
the players that I have here. This is where I
work at. I think that it's disrespectful to even bring
up and ask that, Like, what is the point in
asking that to make some media of me saying something opposite.
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They hired me to come here and do a job
and coach this team, and that's what I'm doing. His
follow up was on his own podcast, he said, how
are you telling me my job isn't a big time job?
It's Fran Brown reister wrong for this response.
Speaker 2 (01:01:00):
He's one rister because he's probably gonna be paying State's
new head head coach that if if I had my
my doing. Dude, that sounds exactly like Willy Tagger at
Oregon when they when they asked him, Yo, are you
gonna are you gonna take the Florida Florida State job
or are you committed to being at at at Oregon.
Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
Why would I not be.
Speaker 3 (01:01:28):
WILLI Tagger? WILLI Tagger did the ultimate like when people say,
b where your feet are? I mean he technically was yeah,
in Tyler Shuck's backyard, trying to recruit him to Oregon
on the phone, getting in a private jet to Tallahassee.
Speaker 2 (01:01:44):
Yes, Hey, So this reminds me of something that my
that Denisia, who if you don't know, is my wife.
She would always, you know, like, hit the oblique obligatory, dude, due,
you really love me?
Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
Do you love me?
Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
I like, and my response would be a lot of
a lot of times, I'm I'm I'm here, Anna. That
would be my response. And then I figured out that
wasn't a good response, like I'm here Anna, and my
point so I would say, I'm here, Anna, I'm never
anywhere I don't want to be. And then and then
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I thought about it. I do go places I don't
want to be sometimes because because I have to be
so and I'm like and so that hit me and
I was like, no, babe, I do love it. I
choose and then I re rephrased it because I was like,
I want to be here. I choose to be here
every single day because this is where I want to be, like,
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I love you because I choose to love you every
single day, and I don't want to be anywhere else
otherwise I would be and I don't want to be
in there like I But I say it in a
way that now it's like you know, Dan Dan Landing style?
Speaker 1 (01:03:03):
Intead?
Speaker 3 (01:03:03):
Yeah, have you tried yes? Have you tried the word yes?
All right, before we get in any more trouble, what
are we looking forward to this weekend?
Speaker 1 (01:03:14):
He said? Have you tried the word yes?
Speaker 2 (01:03:20):
That that that would be a lot more simple, right, Yeah, Yes,
I'm looking forward to how Matt rules team plays against Minnesota,
how Nebraska plays against Minnesota on Friday. If they laid
down and Minnesota beats Nebraska, oh you might be looking
at your new pen pens, they head coach, because as
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soon as the team's play starts being impacted, you know
what's up. I am interested in this Vanderbilt LSU game.
I think Vanderbilt who's favored over When is the last
time that Vanderbilt was favored over Lsu?
Speaker 3 (01:04:01):
Never?
Speaker 1 (01:04:03):
Maybe? Never? Do dude?
Speaker 2 (01:04:05):
They have not been favored over an SEC opponent in
any book since twenty eighteen, and some people are reporting
since like the seventies. So uh so I'm interested in
that game. I am, Oh my god, I don't even
want to know what Indiana is gonna do to Michigan State.
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And now that Kurt Signetti has re upped, I want
to see Texas Tech versus Areas on a state how
that turns out. And but most the thing I'm looking
forward to the most is the outcome of this USC
Notre Dame game.
Speaker 3 (01:04:45):
What do you think it means for either side?
Speaker 2 (01:04:49):
USC It's validation we are, we are back, we are physical,
we are all of these things. For Notre Dame, I
think it's just like, yeah, no, we're going to the
College Football Playoff. And so I think that this game
means way more to USC than it does Notre Dame
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because Notre Dame was in the College Football Playoff last year,
they were in the National Championship. They know who they are,
they believe who they are. USC is still questioning. Their
fans are still questioning because they were questioned after the
Illinois game on their message board. So you can't tell
me that they're that the team ain't then Lincoln at
this game means more for USC than it does for
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Notre Dame.
Speaker 3 (01:05:36):
That makes sense. I am looking forward to a rematch
of College Football Playoff or of the ACC Championship. Two
teams that made the College Football Playoff and nobody's talking
about it all SMU and Clemson. I think this is
a pretty important game. I know RTT Lashley has been
linked to some jobs, and I know that Damo Swing
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he's going through it. The winner of this game, aim.
I think five and two for SMU means we still
have a shot. I think that three and four for
Clemson is a pretty hard reset potentially, So I think
that's a that's a really really important one. And then
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the other thing that I'm really looking forward to is
earlier this year, Johnny Manziel was on I think maybe
his own show, talking and he said, there's nobody really
like him this year, like no real like flashy, exciting guy.
Trinidad Chambliss has opportunity. He is, he was, he he
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kind of plays like Johnny Manziel and if you look
at just the you know, I know he's older than
Johnny Manziel was, but certainly not an experience right. He
had one year as a starter at Fairs State he
was even sharing time a little bit last year. At
this time, he's playing in front of four thousand people, yes,
against Michigan Tech, playing in front of everybody. Yeah, and
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he's gonna be at Georgia. So you think about it,
what was the Manzel moment and the Manzel moment that
really kicked off? You know, Johnny football Mania was going
to Alabama when they were nine to oh and winning,
And I think that winning in Georgia at Georgia playing
the type of football that he's been playing with college
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game day, there could be the Manzel moment for Trinidad Chamblis.
Now he could fail that test and we could be
talking about Georgia being six and one and on their
way to the college football playoffs. Sure, I don't think
it's going to hurt Ole Miss all that much. But
right now Ole Miss has the opportunity to go seven
to zero for the second time under Lane Kiffin. Last
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time the wheels fell off, But they have a chance
to do it at Georgia with a backup quarterback who
came out of nowhere. Is one of the best stories
in all of college football, and he actually is exciting.
He does throw on the run, he is everything you
want to see in a college football player. And yeah,
he's got an awesome opportunity in Athens this weekend.
Speaker 1 (01:08:04):
Yeah, well we're excited.
Speaker 2 (01:08:06):
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College football apostles.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
It's your boy, George Rice, the former NFL player, college
football player, college football.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Analyst over at c W.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
My main man, Ralph Amsden, who is the college football savant,
the college football rain man, and the man that knows
all the obscure stats. He should be your phone, a
friend if you need, if you were on Who Wants
to be a Millionaire? We got a lot going this weekend,
so some teams had their bye weeks, but there is
absolute chaos in college football. The SEC bias is at
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one hundred percent max right now. Penn State fired James
Franklin and the ripple effects are being felt all across
college football. Shoe companies are involved. This is absolute madness, USC, Michigan, USC,
Notre Dame. How good are these teams? And so much
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more Here on the programs. Make sure that you'd like subscribe,
get notifications, tell a friend about the show. We always
start with our biggest takeaway from last week? Ralph, what
was your biggest takeaway from Week seven in college football?
Speaker 1 (01:15):
As we had in the week eight.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
I think the Big twelve's got a contender. I think
Texas Tech can hang. I don't know, I don't know.
About winning the championship, but six games have gone by,
and through six games, David Bailey, who they added from
Stanford as sort of like a rush and linebacker Romelo Height.
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I think between the two of them is the most
successful edge rushing pairing in all of college football. They
have two good quarterbacks. Cameron Dickie's a fantastic running back.
The offensive line is blocked well. They are number two
in the country Georgian first quarter scoring and pretty easy
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to get things work.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
And I've been saying this that why on earth are
we ignoring Texas Tech. It's because they're in the Big Twelve.
If they were in the SEC, they'd be the number
one team in the nation right now. Oh they would,
they would happily. But but they want to keep jumping them.
They don't believe this Arizona State game this weekend is
going to go a long way into But at the
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same time, it won't because they'll.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Still be like, oh, it was just Arizona State.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
They're not even ranked right now, considering that they were
ranked last week and they just played without their quarterback.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
But you know who, who's who's counting? Who's counting?
Speaker 2 (02:46):
I mean, Oklahoma was playing without their quarterback. Their quarterback
just came came back and was buns because he probably
shouldn't have been playing.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
But hey, let's give Oklahoma to benefit of.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
I don't know if these Red Raiders have a weak spot,
but they have a lot of they have. If you
were to put together like an all Big twelve team
to run up against, they probably have four guys on
defense that in a conference of like sixteen teams. That's
crazy that Malcolm Rodriguez, Romelo Height, David Bailey like that
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these guys would all be on it. And then their
backup quarterback is one of the scariest prospects I've seen
in a really long time. Physically developed rocket arm can
run has poised like I and he grew up in
the shadow of University of Texas and he's playing for Tech.
It's pretty funny. It's kind of like Baker Mayvie.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
What the craziest part about the whole Texas Tech situation
is they just had a twenty twenty seven to five
star reclassify a twenty twenty six and people were mad.
Ralph people are mad. Oh see, this is just proof
that that college football is broken. College football is broken
because who the Texas kids. He was gonna take a
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trip to Georgia and he just canceled it. He's reclassifying
and he shut down his recruitment. He's more worried about
money than development. And it's like what what, Yes, Texas
Tech is buying an amazing roster. Joey McGuire is a
very good head coach. How many players has Texas Tech
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put in the NFL? Well, won a lot, but also no,
not as many as Georgia. But it might become like
Georgia if Cody Campbell keeps spending that money wisely.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
And it's like the NFL argument is so hard when
Patty Mahomes is out here, it's so difficult to.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Make they are I mean, Crabtree had a good career.
There's so many dudes that are just named brand as well.
But these are not the old days people. Yes, I'm
not mad at Texas Tech buying up the best recruits,
because you know what, for so long the have have
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had so much and now they are getting run out
of the building.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
And I told everybody this was like Bane and Batman.
This was like Bane. He told them, Ralph, right.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
No, no, you did not. I loved you attributed probably
one of my all time favorite movie quotes to the
wrong character and just alarm bells going off in my head.
Earlier this week on on Afraid Show, Selena Kyle Catwoman
told Bruce Wayne that you better batten down the hatches
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because the storm's coming and all of you are going
to wonder how you live so long, so large, and
left so little for the rest of us. Like it's
time for the rich people to panic, and we're in that.
We're in that state of panic right now. This is
also this is kind of how basketball works. You have
people reclassify all the time. You've had quarterbacks reclassify. It's
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not and also like they still have to perform. It's
a risk to pay freshmen, it really is. Yep, I'm
an Arizona State graduate. They don't do it. They won't
pay a freshman. They'll wait until you know, somebody wants to.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Glory and Moore committed, they will, they will pay pay him.
I promise if they get more committed, they or they will.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
I promise you that.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
It's because they have not run into one of those
guys that was going to commit, that was that that
they felt like was gonna for sure be a starter
on day one, because I promise you when when when
he does, when Kenny Dillingham does.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
They will pay I promise you.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Hey, yeah, no, that makes sense. But it is risky.
It's very risky to pay freshmen, yes, and Texas Tech
has the resources to take that risk right now. And
also we're in the sort of in between of when
you can get somebody you know in on a on
a contract with getting money that is maybe outside of
the house, you know, because when does that go into effect,
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Because if you can reclassify and be a mid year enrollie,
maybe that first six months he's outside that and he's
able to get the figure out.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Second that you step on campus, that's when it has
to start. And they're trying to have where high school
kids have to then report their deals if they're being
paid from from schools. The house settlement stuff is still
a mess because only one conference has signed up for
the UH for the CSC, the College Sports Commission. Even
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though they all fought to be in there and get
it signed and get the house settlement, it's.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Still not resolved. People.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
I just want everybody to fully understand that no matter
what has happened, it's still not resolved. The College Sports
Commission has no power in terms of enforcement yet there
is nothing is being done, but they're just pretending.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
They're just kicking the can down the street.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
So all the people that fought for this are now like, yeah, yeah,
we're not gonna sign.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
It, so then you can get punishes. No, this is
this is madness.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
But my biggest takeaway was from this last week is
that what we just talked about, nobody's safe right now.
Oregon's not safe against Indiana, Alabama's not safe versus Tennessee.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Nobody is safe.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
When you line up in college football right now, you
are not safe. We are constantly seeing these lines fall
like they're way less two touchdown too touchdown and more
lines than you have ever seen, Like we should see
way more in conference thirty point lines. Nope, nope, And
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now them lines ain't even safe.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
The top of the twelve team Yeah, ever seen a
top twelve team be a road dog against an unranked team? Yeah? Exactly, yep.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
So I love it. I love it.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
But let's let's get into the topics. Ralph, where are
we starting at today?
Speaker 1 (09:21):
So?
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Uh, our storyline segment, I want to get right into
the Deon Sanders, thing that happened this last week. I'm
overjoyed that you were not aware of it. But Dion
Sanders held a portal hopper scrimmage during the during the
bye week. This is their bye week. They just finished
beating Iowa State, and Dion got his team together and
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he said, I'm not crazy enough to think that all
of you are going to be in this room next year.
Some of you are going to jump in the portal.
This is an opportunity for you to get some portal film.
So the first teamers watch from the sidelines while Colorado
held an intrasquad scrimmage on Wednesday at the Ford practice facility,
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and Deon said, it's gonna be game day. A lot
of you want to be in the game on Saturday.
So you're gonna get in this game right here, play
all out football, and we're gonna film it and we're
gonna cut it up. And if you do stay at Colorado,
this is gonna give you a measuring stick of where
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you're at and what you need to improve. And if
you don't, this is gonna be the film that you
cut up. We will hype it up, we'll give it
to you and We'll make sure you look good and
you can send this tape to other teams. What do
you think about this.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
George Dion Sanders, Okay, bring it in everybody.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
I could not love this any more.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
I could not love it anymore because Deon Sanders, who
I think.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Has abused the portal a little bit.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Right, he understands that and this is the right thing
for his players because one of the hardest things that
kids suffer with. I'm talking about the kids that get
stuck in the transfer portal, whether they get pushed out
of a school or they voluntarily choose to leave, is
when they have not played. It is hard for them
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to get to convince other places that they can play
football because they haven't played and all they have is
cut ups from practice. Oh, they're on scout team and
all this stuff, and it ain't the same, Like it
doesn't feel the same. But when you have you know,
if you're a quarterback hopping in the portal and you
actually have live game reps essentially where somebody's trying to
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sack you, hit you all of those things, or you're
a wide receiver and you might get blown up and
you catch balls and all that.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Dude, This is.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
The perfect opportunity for kids to potentially get on the
field at Colorado or find a new place if they
choose to leave Colorado, or like Deonzai, use it as
a measuring stick.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
This is honestly great for the kids.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
But you have most coaches who do not have the
who don't have the foresight and live from a place
of scarcity that they wouldn't dare do this. You have
to be confident and be able to stand in who
you are to do this, because if not, you're like,
oh my god, my kids will hop into portal. Create
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a culture where they don't want to leave, a culture
where they know they're gonna get developed, a culture where
they know that they're gonna be able to get nil
money as well, and you will retain the majority of
your roster. Yes, some people will leave because it might
be best for them to leave for either personal reasons,
football reasons, financial reasons, whatever it is. And if you
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are a coach, that is part of your task is
to be able to help the kids in your program
to either get to a new program or to stay
put in your program. I love this from Dion Sanders.
This is this is the Lord's work.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
I get the feeling that he's not rooting on anybody's demise,
even if they don't show up for him in the
way that they would hope. I don't think he's a
grudge holder. I think he sees Cormoni MacLean out here
getting interceptions at Florida. I think he even though they,
you know, we figure that there's probably some bad blood there,
I think he's happy about it. I think he wants
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to see these young men succeed.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
And I like that. It feels like the most modern
era story. Though I can't recall anything like this. It
reminds me a little bit of the College Football Playoff
last year, when you know, Bo Prabula had to leave,
Devin Brown had to leave, but Kenny Dillingham had people
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who already picked like he had a tight end Marcuston Douglas,
who already announced that he was transferring back to Florida
State play in the College Football Playoff with Arizona State.
It's it is just the most modern thing. And I
know that there are fans of other sports who look
at this and they don't necessarily think it's a big deal.
Like if you're a soccer fan, like you could get
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players on loan. You know, there's things that aren't super
But if you're a college football fan, it's just a
new and different thing every single day, and you know,
say what you want, love it or hate it, you
do have to stop and really chew on this story.
It is very, very different. And then you gotta wonder, dude,
should we be doing this?
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Yes, you should be doing this, Yes you should be.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
And there are so many people that live from a
scarcity mindset, crabs in a bucket. Oh my god, if
somebody like I can't help anybody else out because that
might hurt me.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
No, that's not how this works. I love it. I
love it. Good good on beyond that, this is the
Lord's work.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
This is exactly what college football coaches should be doing.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Now. Okay, So to move on to our next story
and our next couple of stories. Actually, sometimes I feel
bad for you, George, because you are we're paired up
in this together, have been for many years, and we're different.
We look we look alike, and we're both great athletes.
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But there are some things in there that such as
like I am financially ignorant, not illiterate, ignorant, like I
just I kind of exist outside of a space of
where I'm concerned about the business of college football, and
I get caught off guard by a lot of things
because that's not that's not really my area of interest
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or expertise. However, these next two topics, they seem important,
and I do need you to explain to me why
they matter, why they are important, Okay, and one of
which you put out a tweet and you're getting some
backlash on it right now, but you alluded to the
fact that it is very possible Adidas is involved in
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guiding the hand of Penn State into looking for their
next coach. And so my question for you, George, and
what I think a lot of other people would would
question you on, maybe some with malice, maybe some with curiosity.
Why why would a Das be involved in something like this?
Their shoe people, there are apparel people.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
First thing is, Ralph, you've known me for a long time. Yeah,
how many times? Like what do you think about batting?
Average is when when when I tell you, because there's
a lot of stuff that doesn't go on air when
I tell you, like yo, like this is what's happening
behind the scenes, And blah blah blah, like what is
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my batting average? If I'm like, yo, yore, here is
what I heard, and this is how it's supposed to
play out, and here's what's really going on, and not
I think that this is what's happening. This is what
I'm told is what's happening.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
Yeah, I mean the stuff that you talked to me
about versus the stuff that you actually put out publicly
is probably like a five to one ratio. And so
you know, I would say that when you're putting it
out publicly, you feel really good when you're just talking
to me about it. So here's an example. You called
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me and said, this is what's going on with Dean
Sanders x y Z health issues. Here's what he's gonna
announce and win. You didn't say anything publicly about it.
You didn't like, you didn't report it. You didn't say like, hey,
I know what's going on. I know why he wasn't
at Spring. But he told me. And then I went
to my kids and I was like, hey, watch what
this press conference this is gonna be about. This is
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gonna be really really interesting. We're gonna watch kind of
a man talk about his actual like medical procedures mortality,
that this is very different. It's gonna be a very
different thing that you're about to witness. And so like,
I not only did I trust you on it, I
trust enough to like sit with my kids and watch
this this press cover. Like I I'm somebody like maybe
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to a lot of people on Twitter, you're like blue
check mark former football player. But the conversations that you
and I have there is not not hyperbole, not guessing that.
That's just not how it is in our conversation. And
I'm also like, I'm pretty aggressively honest. And when I
when people do bloviate or they are vapid, I call
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that type of stuff out. That's not type of relationship
we have. When you tell me something's about to happen,
it's on the way. And when you tweet about something,
it means that you've gone far beyond just feel like
you're comfortable to talk to me about it. So I
not only is it a good track record, like I
would my news from you. I would, And that's not
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me blowing smoke for the sake of this. I think
you know I'm I'm chronically honest to my own detriment.
I would trust you on anything in this regard. Okay.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
So with that said, the tweet that I put out was,
I said, let me find it. I said, per sources,
Adidas is involved with the next Penn State higher They
are trying to protect their massive investment. They did not
get Franklin fired, but are definitely pushing to get one
particular coach. Question is will he say yes? And what
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if they play into January? That was the tweet, And
mind you, this kind of followed up on the on
the heels of let me find the guy's name. It
is Mike Astey, who is a like he covers college
football for. He's a managing editor at West Virginia Sports now,
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Pittsburgh Sports Now, national writer at Yard Barker, contributor to
Sirius XM, and then a bunch of other places. Right,
So he tweeted out the other day essentially that Adidas
got James Franklin fired, or that they had a hand
in it because he wanted because they wanted to, Like,
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they're concerned about this brand deal. And if you don't know,
Penn State is switching from Nike. They've been with Nike
for thirty three years. They were actually the I believe
the first school that Phil Knight and company signed to
like apparel deal even before, or that they were the
first one. And now here's what I do know that
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Joe Paterno and Phil Knight.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Were super close, super super close.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
There was a building name that Nike after Joe Paterno,
all of these things. So and that Phil Night actually
got involved late with the with the negotiations. There's stuff
going on, like the Border Trustees is not happy with
their with Pat Kraft, their Penn State's athletic director because
they're like, yo, you didn't tell.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Us everything with this deal.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
You gave us notes and this didn't really match up
exactly right, and that the Nike deal was better long term,
but that the Adidas deal, which is a three year
of a ten year around three hundred million dollars. But
they're also going to here, here's the important point. Adidas
is contributing to to their NIL and then athlete branding
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and all of this stuff. And so they're going to
essentially saying that they're going to contribute to their NIL
stuff and sign guys to Adidas deals and then market
some of their players. And my entire and what I've
heard about this situation is exactly what I tweeted that
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pit that Adidas is pushing one particular coach, and there
was pushback and langdon trap well.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Did I say his name right?
Speaker 3 (22:14):
I don't make sure you get you don't disrespect your detractor, yes, Land.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Yes, yes, yes, so and and this is and I
wanted to say it right because I don't what there's
no disrespect that He was, yes, like you he's locked
in with with pen Penn State. And he was like, George,
do you think that that Pat Craft is gonna let
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a shoe company get involved get involved in this?
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Yes? Yes, actually I do.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Adidas is essentially, if you think about this, Adidas is essentially.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
A Penn State booster coming up.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Now, mind you, this doesn't start till next year in
twenty twenty six, but we're getting ready to think that
that Adidas, who this is the biggest deal that they've
ever done with at school.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
They have overpaid for this.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
Why can I can I interrupew you real quick because
Penn State fans might hear that and take it as disrespect.
Why is Adidas overpaying for this particular contract?
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Because number one, Penn State is one of the biggest
alumni bases in college football, they sell tons of merch
like it is one of the biggest brands, and so
Adidas needs them to be good. Adidas can't have them
higher and it not work out well. So this is
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no different than Oregon's biggest booster, Phil Knight. Do you
think that anybody gets hired in a significant position at
Oregon that impacts the bottom line?
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Ralph, whether it's basketball.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Football, even softball, that that that Phil Knight's not like okay,
I'm okay with that.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
I've seen his parking space at all ten.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Do you believe that that code that anything's happening at
Texas Tech without code significant, without Cody Campbells stamp of approval?
Speaker 3 (24:30):
Not right now?
Speaker 2 (24:33):
How about you know at Florida or Who's or Auburn
or any of these places.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Or Lex Westerner at or Les Wexner at Ohio State
or the giant booster that helped fund the Bryce Underwood
flip at Michigan, like some people got.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Influence, correct, And y'all don't believe that a shoe company
who's now doing in kind of an un precedented deal
is not going to say, listen, we need to.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Like like crapa crap.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Yes, you get to have your say so, but we
gotta stamp off on this because yeah, and sometimes that
help and all of this stuff, so we gotta be
okay with this.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Hire.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
Sometimes that phrasing is like, hey, let us know how
we can support you in this, followed by a long,
silent stare.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Yeah, hey, hey, hey, hey, you know, just.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Let's let us know as you you know, as you
move through the process, so we can be of assistance.
It stares you directly in the face, and you're like
it because because you can apply pressure without explicitly saying, hey,
don't do anything without without hitting us up.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
I'm letting you know that.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
And there's nothing weak or insulting about having that level
of power or for friend, they are in your corner.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Yes, yes, Like, for instance, my son, he's a grown
independent man, he's getting his own money, he's in college,
all of them things. Do you think that he's gonna
make a significant financial decision or something without that could
if it blows.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Up, I might end up having to help him out.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Do you think that I'm not getting a phone call
like like a dad, I'm thinking about.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Doing doing this? All right? Son?
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Go on or nah, don't do this because because if you.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
Do this, yo, yo, you're on your own. Yeah, you
don't want to be you don't want you if you
get into a three hundred million dollars deal, Like God,
think about just as a regular person. You got somebody
who invests thirty thousand dollars in you, like they just
in in something that you're working on, Like they're gonna
have a say, yes, this is three hundred million dollars
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at what was? If I'm not mistake and Phil Knight's
like original contract. Yes, with any institution, this is a
this is yes, man, if I'm stepping out of bound,
this is a proxy war a little bit too.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Yes, Oh oh, it definitely is. This is Adidas and
Nike are at war right now. This this is a
war between the two of them. And that was a
shot across across Nike's bound And yeah, that that is
definitely a shot.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
So that you that you said landed, This is a
shot that landed.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Yes, this is this one? Was this one was?
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Oh god, what's that show I watch on on Oh,
there's a show I watch on Paramount now where they
killed the dude's son.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Pierce Pierce Broston's son can't can you look up the show?
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Yeah, I got you.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
So Pierce Broston is like, this gangster guy is like
a you know, like a crime family.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Yes, Mobland.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
He kills his son, and they basically are like, it's
like it's a shot across the back. They they they
could have killed the one that they didn't really care
about that that much, but instead they killed the one
that they actually cared about. He actually that mattered to him.
And that's what Penn State did. That's what Adidas did
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to the Nike. They kn't like, the only person that
you could have killed or got to more.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Is is Oregon.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
That's the only other way that you could have heard him,
heard him, hurt him worse. You couldn't have hurt him
worse with USC. You couldn't have hurt him worse with anybody.
And mind you, the USC contract is getting renegotiated and
all that stuff too, and Adidas is trying to steal
USC too. This is a whole other, whole nother conversation.
But uh but uh yeah, so that's the situation. And
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so we and you have heard the names Kurt Signetti
and you've heard the name Matt Ruhle involved in this,
People are like, oh, he would never leave there. Indiana
is a is a big time Adidas property. Yeah in basketball?
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Are they good in football?
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Now? Yes?
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Would Indiana is a and And mind you, I mean
this with all the respect in the world to Indiana.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
They have great fans and all of these things.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Indiana football doesn't matter yet they are not a significant
driver of revenue at all.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Indiana basketball is a whole different thing, whole different thing.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Like if we were talking about Penn State, and if
we were talking about Indiana basketball and Indiana fans should
be able to understand this. If we were talking about
Indiana basketball still in Penn State basketball's coach, what would
we be talking about. But now we're talking about Penn
State trying to steal Indiana's football coach.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
It's the exact same thing, except except opposite.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Indiana's just having a good a good run right right
now and they're trying to level up as a program,
and I've commended them. They're trying to do what Oregon has.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Done so and it's not it's not robbing Peter to
pay Paul to want Penn State to hire current Signetti.
It's all Paul to them. Yes, it's all Paul like,
so and you and I actually had.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
This feelish Indiana.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
They'll help backfield in Indiana or or they will try
to help out one of their other brands that that's
more significant.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
And you so you, you and I actually had this
conversation last year. I don't know if you remember this.
I called you and I was like, ooh, Adidas really
wasn't ready for Arizona State in Indiana to make the
college football playoffs. Because I'm an Adidas guy. I where Adidas.
My family wears Adidas. You know that. And I called
you and I was like, man, I got a friend
who went to school in Bloomington, and you know, I
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went to Arizona State and I'm on the website trying
to get apparel. Like they weren't ready. They didn't do
anything special. They didn't really move or promote the merch
all that much on the football end. They there was
no ultimately, like you know, you know a school that
they do promote is Washington. That is a school that
because I'm on Adidas website once a week looking at deals.
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My son's a Washington fan for who knows why. And
I got a neighbor, who's a big Indiana guy. I'm
an Arizona State gu. I'm always on the website. Two
of those teams made the college football playoffs and they
just weren't ready. They didn't have anything, couple of generic
T shirts. They really didn't move outside of their apparel plan.
They Who knows why Adidas has Arizona State. They had
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Indiana for basketball, and maybe Adidas had it for Hurley
like they were betting on Bobby Hurley being maybe better
than he was. But but you know a lot of
these are basketball investments and the football got good on accident.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Where do you think, Ralph, that Indiana football ranks amongst
Texas A and M, Miami, Washington, Texas Tech, Arizona State, Kansas,
and I'm talking about in football, Nebraska, in Louisville, n
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C State in college football.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
Last last This was not because you're not just factoring
in last year. You're factoring in when they signed these contracts.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Ralph, I am on Adidas site. I typed in college football.
Let me tell you, here's the exact order of the
brands that are on their site. Okay, Texas Tech like
like in terms of I typed in college foot football,
So so we can go to Texas Tech There Investments, Washington, Miami,
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Georgia Tech, Arizona. I'm just going in order of the
way that they showed up Texas A and M Washington
again grambling Texas Tech because it's because remember they are
big in the mahomes business. So Miami, Mississippi State, Arizona State,
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Texas Tech, in c State, Georgia Tech, Texas A and
M Nebraska, Kansas East, Arizona State, Miami, Texas Tech, Nebraska, Miami,
Texas Tech, Nebraska, Washington, Nebraska, Washington, Louisville, Louisville, n C State,
Mississippi State, Kansas, Arizona. Hold up, I'm at the end
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of the page. I haven't gotten to Indiana yet.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
No, And I text you about this too, didn't I
Adidas has so many red teams, the.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Ralph the next to there's one, two, three, four, five things.
It is the fifth to last thing on Adidas site
when you type in college football mm hmm fit. It
is on the second page, at the bottom of the
second page.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
So don't sit here and tell me.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
And then and and I'm and this is not a
knock on Indiana because I love what they're doing. I
love their trying to come up like this is no
knock on them, but this is no different than what
Oregon went through. Like, there's no difference. They're in the
same boat right now. So so it's not a knock
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on them.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Oregon was them.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
No. Indiana fans will tell you this that Adidas isn't
like that that they got good in football and they
didn't have, uh like a plan to really promote it.
And not only are you in the team apparel business,
you're also in the colorway business. So if you're on there,
like just in red and black and red and white apparel,
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Indiana is prioritized behind the Louisville's and in the Texas
Techs and all of these other schools that have that colorway. Nebraska, right,
red and white selling better for Nebraska than it is
for Indiana, and so it's not promoted very well. And
so you know, and again that's we're talking football, we're
not talking basketball, which Adidas I'm sure treats Indiana very well.
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There is a precious investment for them on the basketball
and I'm sure of it, but you know, I don't know.
I'm gonna deep this guy. We've had all these conversations.
It's just not you know, we're talking to each other
defending a point that I don't think you need to defend.
These are big time business investments, and these businesses want
you to succeed so that you will sell more apparel
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so that they can get their investment back on.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
So I'm this is no knock against Indiana, but reality
is reality. But there are some other aspects to it,
which with which is timing?
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Right?
Speaker 2 (36:17):
Kurtzignetti like, there there's kind of two paths, right, So
he would be my number one guy that if I
could get him, okay, because you're gonna bring juice, You're
gonna bring energy, like he's going to get out there
and Penn State is going to be talked about, like
Penn State is already one of the biggest brands in
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college football, but now you've thrown gasoline on them because
this dude's a maniac, right it, And and I mean
that in a good way.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
So he would be my first hire, but the problem is.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
I can't see And then also I think that you
have to factor in he was sixty one when he
got the Indiana job, so he felt passed over people.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
Weren't you know what I mean for a long time.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
And now he's sixty four and he's like, I'm trying
to get to a championship period. I you know, everybody
else they got their turn, this is my turn. Now
they are And he's got his boys with him. So
he and this isn't going to be a money play
because he's making good money at Indiana. He's making nine
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million dollars coaches pool is really good. This ain't about
money because if Penn State pays him eleven minute, there's like,
you don't really jump around for a couple of dollars
at that point, at that point in time. But this
can be about can I win a national championship here?
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So there is two and I do believe and I've
talked about the world's changing all this stuff, But there
are two paths Ralph.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
One of them is.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
What if Indiana wins the Big Ten and they don't
play till the second round of the playoffs in in
January and essentially January first, Mmm, you can't announce him
as your head coach.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
You cannot.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
So even if you having an agreement in principle, if
Indiana goes to go win a national championship.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
Can you count on.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
That it would be outside the portal window too? Right?
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Yes, So can you count on that to where you're like,
oh yeah, our our head coaches, you know, like, if
he won a national championship, can you count on the
fact that he's one hundred going to still leave? No?
Speaker 3 (38:48):
Right, that's tough. I mean, I just and then you
never know what's in a dude's heart and head. If
if he wins a Natty, why would why would he leave?
Speaker 1 (38:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (38:58):
Like, I can win, I can win win here. I
don't need to go nowhere else.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
Yeah, you've taken away the one doubt. What you need
is for in the Big Ten Championship for Ryan Day
to step on their necks for me to get in
his head. Yeah, which is what happened to Brian Kelly, right, yep,
It's happened to coaches all over the place, like I
need better players. Because one thing about college coaches that
we never seem to factor in all the way. And
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you watch how college coach acts when they walk onto
a campus full of players that got the last coach fired,
You'll know exactly what what college coaches are about. When
you see a college coach walk onto a campus where
the last coach got fired. They don't trust a single
one of those players, because you guys got the last
coach fired. You're not gonna get me fired. If I
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get fired, it's gonna be by players I bring in.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
And you know what Kurt Signetti would do the first
day when he gets announced that one of the basketball games,
he gonna walk.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
Up, walk on the court.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
F Ohio State, f Alabama, f Oregon, f all of him.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
We're gonna be better than them, am.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
I, because because that's what he did in Indiana. So
if you don't think he's gonna do it with a
Penn State logo, but I believe that Penn State should
hire one of two coaches. Brian Hartline, who is the
officer coordinator at Ohio State. His recruiting juice will translate buddy,
because he's the magic at Ohio State's wide receiver recruiting
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and at you know, just the recruiting in general. He
is the magic aside from the brand, of course, he's
the magic. I would hire him or which which he
can be named head coach and still coaching in the playoffs,
which is what Dan Lanning did at Georgia and then
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at taking an Oregon job, or I would hire Fran
Brown from Syracuse.
Speaker 1 (40:59):
Do you know how much.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
Juice either one of those dudes is gonna be able
to generate surrounding Penn State in press conferences and the like.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
Fran Brown with a Penn State logo is.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
Going to sign a top five class every year? Probably?
Speaker 3 (41:19):
Yah.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
But y'all want Matt Matt rule, and y'all want you know,
Nick Saban to come out of retirement and urban Meyer
and stop living in the past.
Speaker 3 (41:34):
Greg McElroy wants Pat Fitzgerald.
Speaker 1 (41:36):
Pat Fitzgerald.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
Pet Fitzgerald will do a great job of building a consistent,
very good football team.
Speaker 3 (41:46):
Now you know what?
Speaker 1 (41:48):
You know what that I love the recruit a top
five class every year, I don't know about that.
Speaker 3 (41:54):
I love the idea of Penn State bringing somebody in
who wasn't aware of what was going on in the
locker room. Uh, that's not a joke. I'm genuinely laughing
at the at the prospect of like anyway we can move. So,
while we're recording, Michigan has solidified their stance against a
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two point four billion dollar public investment in the Big Ten.
So Michigan is on record. Michigan Regent Jordan Acker just said,
enough is enough. Make no mistake. In five years, we
would regret this capital deal. George, I don't fully understand
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what this even is. Will you explain to me why
the Big ten is seeking out two point four billion
dollars and why Michigan USC have come out against it?
Speaker 1 (42:53):
Thank you, Michigan, Ohio State.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
You should be thanking Michigan right now because you were
on board, apparently with a dumb decision. USC. Great job
if you were fully against it as well. This is
one hundred percent lunacy. And the reason why because this
is private equity. Money es safely and I know that
part of it was going to be like the California
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Firefighters or Police department pension fund and all of this stuff,
private investment and private equity. You know, we were getting
ready to spend some truth because the lights just went out.
But what was going to happen to the Big ten
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on the back end of this?
Speaker 1 (43:40):
If you've covered college football.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
For any amount of time, if you've been following college
football apostles for any amount of time, this was going
to cause the Big ten to extend their media rights
obligation their granted rights for an additional minimum of ten years. Ralph,
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who at some point in time signed a groundbreaking twelve year,
two billion dollar deal that was the greatest thing that
ever was. College football had ever seen so much more
money than anybody had ever seen and is now defunct.
Speaker 3 (44:28):
Would you be talking about the Conference of Champions.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
Yes, the PAC twelve, Ralph, we have seen this movie
before extending your grant of rights for additional For this
eleventy billion dollars up front, that two billion dollars will
be chump change.
Speaker 1 (44:49):
In twelve years. That will be pennies on the dollar.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
The whole thing with these media rights deals is to
keep them long but short at the same time intermediate
deal so you can keep getting back to the table.
Only in baseball do guys sign the deals ten twelve years,
But they do it when they're thirty because they know
they're getting over that get their dollar cost averaging it.
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In this the Big ten is still in its prime.
It's always in its prime. Ask ask the acc how
good that that deal that was so magical to them
that's keeping them in their granted rights till twenty thirty five,
twenty thirty six, feels right now. It feels good because
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they they've held Florida State in Clemson hostage, but it
don't feel.
Speaker 1 (45:48):
Real good because you couldn't get back to the table.
Speaker 2 (45:52):
And now your schools are operating at a at a
significant disadvantage. So, Ralph, I didn't tell you what my
stance on it, why I was so far against it
prior to the show.
Speaker 1 (46:05):
But now that I've laid this out for you, what
are your thoughts?
Speaker 3 (46:11):
Well, if you're comparing it to the PAC twelve, then
you know how I'm gonna feel. That's that was the worst.
The conference I loved is now dead and gone. And
so you know, you have always been an advocate for
shorter deals and more opportunities to renegotiate, and so you know,
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again financially ignorant at times. I'm gonna go with you
on this one. I don't really care the big The
big ten is the has they're out here like to
be in a position where you turned two point four
billion down over eighteen teams or whatever. That sounds nice,
I'm trying to see what that'd be like.
Speaker 1 (46:54):
Yeah, exactly so.
Speaker 2 (46:57):
And Michigan's statement was like, yeah, this since essentially I'm paraphrasing, Yeah,
all this money is cool and all, but it doesn't
address costs, like like like we're spending too much.
Speaker 1 (47:10):
We gotta figure that out.
Speaker 2 (47:12):
And and like yeah, all this money sounds sounds cool
and all, but it don't address the real problems.
Speaker 3 (47:21):
Makes sense. Well, we got some breaking news, George.
Speaker 2 (47:24):
Yes, while we were when when when the lights went out,
we learned that Indiana will not.
Speaker 1 (47:31):
Be losing their head coach Kurt Signatty. He ain't going nowhere.
He will be at Indiana.
Speaker 2 (47:37):
The man just leveraged this thing into a new deal
that is going to pay him at eleven point six
million dollars per year.
Speaker 1 (47:48):
And you know what, he going home.
Speaker 2 (47:52):
And he gonna look his wife in the face and
be like, so are you saying baby? Because and by
that I mean because he was at Alabama. He wanted
to take that job at what what was it?
Speaker 1 (48:07):
Are you are you p.
Speaker 3 (48:12):
Are you p U I? Or whatever?
Speaker 1 (48:13):
Yeah, it was a Division two job.
Speaker 2 (48:16):
He takes the he takes the job, takes a significant
pay cut, a step back because he's at Alabama recruiting
coordinator and everything else, and takes a huge step back.
And she wasn't on board. At first she was like, yo,
you're making a lot of money everything as well, like don't,
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don't do this. At first, she finally signs reluctantly signs
off on it.
Speaker 1 (48:44):
And now and now the man who's gonna.
Speaker 2 (48:48):
Be one hundred million up before you can blink, before
you can blink, he one hundred million up.
Speaker 3 (48:55):
Not bad to get that at sixty four. That's a
that is the gamble paying off. And I know that's
the same age as Kyle Whittingham, who getting ready to
retire right now. Kurt Signetti is getting started. So that
the statement from their athletic director, I.
Speaker 1 (49:13):
Know what it is.
Speaker 3 (49:19):
Let go for what he said.
Speaker 2 (49:23):
He said, he's not fucking leaving. That's what That's what
the statement said.
Speaker 3 (49:30):
Direct her complaints that I'm mad at unafraid show dot
com uh at any inner university. We are committed to
performing at the highest levels in everything we do, and
no one has exemplified that more than coach Signetti put simply,
Siga is a winner from last year's College football Player
appearance in this year's Top three national ranking, the IU
(49:50):
football program success has been tremendous. Kurt and Manette Signetti
are home in Indiana, and we are delighted that the
Signetti family will be Hoogier's for for many years to come. George,
what do you think eleven point six million dollars a
year could buy in Bloomington?
Speaker 2 (50:06):
Bloomington, Oh and after about five years, most of Bloomington.
Speaker 3 (50:16):
I'm thinking about. I told you in the University of
Indiana is one of the or Indiana University is one
of the best music schools in the country. Now I'm
looking at that and I'm like, oh, let me go
send my son there, get him on playing guitar and
and and and you know, maybe he can provide some
some acoustic entertainment for Kurt Signetty.
Speaker 2 (50:38):
Get off that dumb Washington idea. But yeah, man, I'm
happy for Kurt Signatty his third contract in two years,
which is wild, But he was making nine million already.
I don't believe that this deal, that him leaving Indiana
or not, was ever going to be about money. I
(50:58):
don't think it was always going to be about and like, yes,
the school did clearly get get held hostage here, but
but actually I don't even think they got held hostage.
They were they were like, hey, Kurt, hey, Kurt do
you want to raise and they were like it was
like sure, yes, and then you.
Speaker 1 (51:22):
For the and it was like, I.
Speaker 2 (51:24):
Don't even think they negotiated. They were like, are you
cool with eleven point point six? He was like, yeah,
how much from my assistance?
Speaker 1 (51:31):
Twelve eight? Yeah? Cool?
Speaker 2 (51:33):
That works all right, Cool, let's go back practice. Like
I think that this was this was probably the easiest negotiation.
Speaker 3 (51:40):
Of all time, negotiating against nobody.
Speaker 2 (51:44):
So I believe don't is going to be about whether
he couldn't get to the if he believed he could
get to the playoffs, win a national championship in Indiana,
and if he was going to be willing to leave
to go to Penn State before the season was over.
Speaker 3 (51:57):
There. You don't do this, though, You don't unless it
was a risk that somebody could come and pay him more.
Speaker 2 (52:10):
Yeah, of course somebody could try to pay him more,
But I don't believe that it was ever gonna come
down to money.
Speaker 3 (52:17):
Yeah, and I appreciate Indiana taking care of him, for sure,
But like I'm saying, you don't do it unless you're
a little scared.
Speaker 1 (52:24):
Oh for sure, for sure.
Speaker 2 (52:26):
Hold on, let me, let let me listen to what
Indiana just re released from Kurt Signetti.
Speaker 3 (52:44):
Are we cutting this part? Are we just giving everybody
a moment of silence?
Speaker 1 (52:47):
No?
Speaker 2 (52:47):
No, no, no, okay, I'm listening to what he's saying
about it. You know, he's proud to be a Hoosier.
His wife loves it there, he loves the school. Oh see,
I appreciate this. He's like the way that they've embraced
us and loved us. Oh yeah, I just said I'm
(53:11):
gonna work daily, work hard, and I appreciate y'all and
everything else.
Speaker 1 (53:15):
That's it. That's good stuff.
Speaker 3 (53:19):
Well, speaking of coach statements, I want to get into
our reister wrong segment. I'm gonna read you some coach
statements and you tell me if they are reister or wrong.
And these are about the rumors that are flying around.
Not everybody has spoken on it, but enough people have.
So let's start out with your boy Dan Lanning quote.
I've been very clear and adamant that I'm not going anywhere.
A lot of coaches use that as an opportunity to say, Okay,
(53:41):
I'm either going to get a big raise where I'm at,
or maybe they really want that other job. I don't
want any other jobs. I've got the job. I want
reister wrong way to handle this.
Speaker 2 (53:53):
That is the reister way to handle it. That is
the one reister that it is emphatic. There's there's no
double talk. It is if you do the opposite, you
are a liar. You are a fraudster. You are a liar.
Speaker 1 (54:07):
That is.
Speaker 2 (54:09):
Like, that's backing. That's not even painting yourself into a corner.
That is locking yourself into a box. And I mean
like you like you didn't get painted in the corner.
You painted the corner and you stood over there like
like you painted yourself and called it a corner.
Speaker 3 (54:29):
Okay, next up, Eli Drinkwitz at Missouri. Uh, there's no
such thing as journalistic integrity on social media. There's just wild,
outlandish reporting. He's talking about himself and his assistant, Kirby Moore.
Kirby Moore never interviewed, He didn't talk to anybody at Arkansas.
It was all a bunch of bull crap. I don't
want to focus on that section. There's no such thing
(54:50):
as journalistic integrity on social media. Rights to or wrong way?
Speaker 2 (54:57):
Wait he was he was asked about the Indiana job.
I'm sorry, worry about the Penn State job.
Speaker 3 (55:02):
No, no, no, no, no, he's so he's been linked to Florida,
to the potential to an Auburn, which are not open yet. Yeah,
and Arkansas, but Arkansas more so for his assistant, Kirby Moore.
So he's saying there's no such thing as journalistic integrity
on social media. There's just wild, out landish reporting. Kirby
Moore never interviewed, he didn't talk to anybody in Arkansas.
(55:24):
It's all a bunch of crap. So he's speaking about
him being linked to jobs and his assistant being linked
to jobs.
Speaker 2 (55:34):
I'm gonna say that that is reister for right now
because Florida is not open and neither is Auburn. So
so what once those become open. Yes, the Eli Drinkowitz
will get calls and people have wondered if he would
go to Penn State. I don't believe that Penn State
(55:56):
is the spot for him. People have asked me about
will Stein at Penn State. I was like, I don't
think that Penn State is going to I don't even
if will Stein did do a good job at Penn State.
I think that he would leave if Texas a and
m or Texas or Oklahoma became open and they offered
him because that's his region, that's where his fan is.
Speaker 1 (56:19):
All that stuff.
Speaker 2 (56:20):
Not that he not not the Penn State is not
a special place. But it's like Mario Cristoball at Oregon.
I don't think he would have left her anywhere except
for maybe Alabama and Miami one hundred percent short.
Speaker 3 (56:36):
So I'll step in and say hashtag Alabama for Miami. Yeah,
but I do want to say hashtag NOTDL journalists. We're
painting everybody with the same brun brush. There, Eli Matt
Rule quote, This is not a jumping off job. This
(56:56):
is a destination job. This is one of the greatest
places in the world. I refuse to be distracted. That
is Matt Rule talking to Pat McAfee.
Speaker 1 (57:07):
Wrong. Wrong.
Speaker 2 (57:09):
You know what Matt Rule said that like because because
that wasn't even the whole quote.
Speaker 1 (57:16):
He was just like, listen, this place should be a
beast and all of this. You know what he didn't say.
He didn't say, no, I'm not leaving.
Speaker 2 (57:26):
He wants he either wants a raise or he wants
to PennState job.
Speaker 1 (57:32):
One of the two.
Speaker 2 (57:33):
There's a reason why he's saying no, And there's a
reason why his quarterback Dylan Ryola is he ain't going nowhere.
Speaker 1 (57:41):
If he ain't going nowhere, then why not say it?
Matt rule, say the words.
Speaker 2 (57:50):
Don't say the words two weeks from now, right before
they announce who the head coaching job is going to.
Speaker 1 (57:57):
No say it, say it now, if you.
Speaker 3 (58:03):
All right? Alex Golish quote this is at USF. Quote.
I'm never in my career outside of here chase the
job ever, and I don't intend to. I can promise
you I'm not talking to anybody. Some people will call
BS on it, and that's fine. Reis They're wrong Alex
(58:23):
Golish's response to UH to the coaching Carouselister.
Speaker 2 (58:30):
I do not because I give all I give every
single G five coach of pass on.
Speaker 1 (58:37):
You can.
Speaker 2 (58:38):
You can BS your way through this whole thing. I don't,
because you know, there's a big difference in making you know,
one point five a year and making eight million dollars
a year and being at a power for a school.
I am not listen, Alex Goldish, you are one hundred percent, reister, buddy.
I know USF is a really good job and all
(59:00):
those things, but and he might be making closer you know,
two and a half and maybe but not too much
more than that, if so, And he doesn't know whether
he's a candidate or not, Like he may not be
the top guy that they're gonna look at at, you know,
at some of these schools, and granted, just because you're
(59:20):
not the top guy doesn't mean that you're not the
right guy. So I listen, he could say anything, he'd
be like, listen, I'm not leaving us LF, and then
he leaves. I wouldn't even fall to them. He's trying
to keep his season together. They are ranked now, they
might go to the college football playoffs. He might not
get one of these jobs or want the one that's
(59:42):
offered to him, and he might be like, I'm gonna
stay over here. So he's got to keep his group together.
He's got to keep his team together, and he's got
to keep people foolishly believing that he's not leaving, that
he's willing to stay there and turn down other jobs
and turn that in a powerhouse.
Speaker 3 (01:00:03):
The last one I got for you is a long one,
and he took some criticism for it, and I'll read
you his quote that he took criticism for it, and
then his follow up quote, this is Fran Brown at Syracuse.
I'm working at Syracuse right now, so I really don't
need to talk about that. If this wasn't where I
wanted to be in the moment, would I be standing
(01:00:23):
here at this moment. Yeah, So I'm just focused on that.
I'm focused on being here. I'm locked in on coaching
the players that I have here. This is where I
work at. I think that it's disrespectful to even bring
up and ask that, Like, what is the point in
asking that to make some media of me saying something opposite.
(01:00:44):
They hired me to come here and do a job
and coach this team, and that's what I'm doing. His
follow up was on his own podcast, he said, how
are you telling me my job isn't a big time job?
It's Fran Brown reister wrong for this response.
Speaker 2 (01:01:00):
He's one rister because he's probably gonna be paying State's
new head head coach that if if I had my
my doing. Dude, that sounds exactly like Willy Tagger at
Oregon when they when they asked him, Yo, are you
gonna are you gonna take the Florida Florida State job
or are you committed to being at at at Oregon.
Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
Why would I not be.
Speaker 3 (01:01:28):
WILLI Tagger? WILLI Tagger did the ultimate like when people say,
b where your feet are? I mean he technically was yeah,
in Tyler Shuck's backyard, trying to recruit him to Oregon
on the phone, getting in a private jet to Tallahassee.
Speaker 2 (01:01:44):
Yes, Hey, So this reminds me of something that my
that Denisia, who if you don't know, is my wife.
She would always, you know, like, hit the oblique obligatory, dude, due,
you really love me?
Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
Do you love me?
Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
I like, and my response would be a lot of
a lot of times, I'm I'm I'm here, Anna. That
would be my response. And then I figured out that
wasn't a good response, like I'm here Anna, and my
point so I would say, I'm here, Anna, I'm never
anywhere I don't want to be. And then and then
(01:02:26):
I thought about it. I do go places I don't
want to be sometimes because because I have to be
so and I'm like and so that hit me and
I was like, no, babe, I do love it. I
choose and then I re rephrased it because I was like,
I want to be here. I choose to be here
every single day because this is where I want to be, like,
(01:02:47):
I love you because I choose to love you every
single day, and I don't want to be anywhere else
otherwise I would be and I don't want to be
in there like I But I say it in a
way that now it's like you know, Dan Dan Landing style?
Speaker 1 (01:03:03):
Intead?
Speaker 3 (01:03:03):
Yeah, have you tried yes? Have you tried the word yes?
All right, before we get in any more trouble, what
are we looking forward to this weekend?
Speaker 1 (01:03:14):
He said? Have you tried the word yes?
Speaker 2 (01:03:20):
That that that would be a lot more simple, right, Yeah, Yes,
I'm looking forward to how Matt rules team plays against Minnesota,
how Nebraska plays against Minnesota on Friday. If they laid
down and Minnesota beats Nebraska, oh you might be looking
at your new pen pens, they head coach, because as
(01:03:42):
soon as the team's play starts being impacted, you know
what's up. I am interested in this Vanderbilt LSU game.
I think Vanderbilt who's favored over When is the last
time that Vanderbilt was favored over Lsu?
Speaker 3 (01:04:01):
Never?
Speaker 1 (01:04:03):
Maybe? Never? Do dude?
Speaker 2 (01:04:05):
They have not been favored over an SEC opponent in
any book since twenty eighteen, and some people are reporting
since like the seventies. So uh so I'm interested in
that game. I am, Oh my god, I don't even
want to know what Indiana is gonna do to Michigan State.
(01:04:27):
And now that Kurt Signetti has re upped, I want
to see Texas Tech versus Areas on a state how
that turns out. And but most the thing I'm looking
forward to the most is the outcome of this USC
Notre Dame game.
Speaker 3 (01:04:45):
What do you think it means for either side?
Speaker 2 (01:04:49):
USC It's validation we are, we are back, we are physical,
we are all of these things. For Notre Dame, I
think it's just like, yeah, no, we're going to the
College Football Playoff. And so I think that this game
means way more to USC than it does Notre Dame
(01:05:11):
because Notre Dame was in the College Football Playoff last year,
they were in the National Championship. They know who they are,
they believe who they are. USC is still questioning. Their
fans are still questioning because they were questioned after the
Illinois game on their message board. So you can't tell
me that they're that the team ain't then Lincoln at
this game means more for USC than it does for
(01:05:34):
Notre Dame.
Speaker 3 (01:05:36):
That makes sense. I am looking forward to a rematch
of College Football Playoff or of the ACC Championship. Two
teams that made the College Football Playoff and nobody's talking
about it all SMU and Clemson. I think this is
a pretty important game. I know RTT Lashley has been
linked to some jobs, and I know that Damo Swing
(01:05:57):
he's going through it. The winner of this game, aim.
I think five and two for SMU means we still
have a shot. I think that three and four for
Clemson is a pretty hard reset potentially, So I think
that's a that's a really really important one. And then
(01:06:18):
the other thing that I'm really looking forward to is
earlier this year, Johnny Manziel was on I think maybe
his own show, talking and he said, there's nobody really
like him this year, like no real like flashy, exciting guy.
Trinidad Chambliss has opportunity. He is, he was, he he
(01:06:38):
kind of plays like Johnny Manziel and if you look
at just the you know, I know he's older than
Johnny Manziel was, but certainly not an experience right. He
had one year as a starter at Fairs State he
was even sharing time a little bit last year. At
this time, he's playing in front of four thousand people, yes,
against Michigan Tech, playing in front of everybody. Yeah, and
(01:06:59):
he's gonna be at Georgia. So you think about it,
what was the Manzel moment and the Manzel moment that
really kicked off? You know, Johnny football Mania was going
to Alabama when they were nine to oh and winning,
And I think that winning in Georgia at Georgia playing
the type of football that he's been playing with college
(01:07:22):
game day, there could be the Manzel moment for Trinidad Chamblis.
Now he could fail that test and we could be
talking about Georgia being six and one and on their
way to the college football playoffs. Sure, I don't think
it's going to hurt Ole Miss all that much. But
right now Ole Miss has the opportunity to go seven
to zero for the second time under Lane Kiffin. Last
(01:07:43):
time the wheels fell off, But they have a chance
to do it at Georgia with a backup quarterback who
came out of nowhere. Is one of the best stories
in all of college football, and he actually is exciting.
He does throw on the run, he is everything you
want to see in a college football player. And yeah,
he's got an awesome opportunity in Athens this weekend.
Speaker 1 (01:08:04):
Yeah, well we're excited.
Speaker 2 (01:08:06):
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