Helmet Hacking, CFB Playoff Predictions, Recruiting Spending, Week 10 Picks

On this episode of the College Football Apostles, George Wrighster and Ralph Amsden tackle college football's hottest topics- such as Texas Tech inquiring with the Big 12 about whether their unencrypted signals had been hacked by any of their recent opponents. The guys also discuss Miami opening against Notre Dame at home to kick off the 2025 season, discuss the likelihood of the current AP top 10 teams making the college football playoff, and discuss whether Michigan's recent QB decommit is a product of Dave Portnoy's NIL pledge, or the offense looking like garbage. 
George and Ralph discuss some of the 2023 recruiting spend data for college football's top schools, and also talk about Ross Dellenger's article about how Pitt went from 3-9 to 7-0. 
Finally, the guys make their picks in the Ohio State/Penn State, Ole Miss/ Arkansas, Oregon/Michigan, Texas Tech/Iowa State and Pitt/SMU games.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
I'm George Reister. He's Ralph Amson, and this is the
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(00:22):
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We know that you do too, and continue to share,
like subscribe all of those things for the show to
continue to grow. But we got a lot to talk
about today, and the first thing is, Ralph, I am
already sad, Like I am sad, And part of this

(00:44):
is bit because I generally have a a like a
like I deal with FOMO pretty bad in life. And
now I'm looking like I don't want to ruin the
rest of the college football season because I'm like, there's
only four games left, Like we're in week ten already.

(01:05):
How did I have to wait like thirty weeks for
college football and now it's already damn near over. What
did we do to deserve this? This feels sad.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
This happens every single time. It's like it's a roller coaster.
You it takes two minutes to get up to that top.
Drop click click click, click, click, click, click click click.
You have all this anticipation, and then once you reach
the top, it takes ninety seconds for the ride to
be over.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
Actually, it feels like a ten minute climb for a
forty five second ride. Yes worth it though, yes, oh
but and honestly, this season feels more worth it. And
I've started to hear a lot of the people who
were pushing back on never expansion, they're getting it now.

(01:56):
They're getting it because we still have four four weeks
left of regular season. Ball five for some for some
teams in terms of the number of games, and how
many teams would you say are still alive? Thirty in
terms of potential to make the college football playoffs and

(02:16):
not at an at large bid territory, but for getting
a chance to get into their conference championship game, because
getting into the conference championship game means that you got
a shot.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
Thirty fields high end maybe twenty.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
Five, Okay, so that means the entire top twenty five essentially,
if you're yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
If you're excluding, if you're excluding like Army, Boise State.
Maybe a couple that are outside it. Maybe a couple.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
Okay, Yeah, there's.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
Like Virginia Tech is not in the top twenty five,
but they are still alive because they're three and one
in the ACC and I think they still play Clemson
if I'm not mistaken. So there's a couple teams like
that that technically could go get hot and win the
conference that are outside the top twenty five. So maybe
it is closer to what you say, Maybe it's closer

(03:11):
to thirty.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
Yeah, it's the whole point is that it's a lot
more than what we've ever seen. And I think that
this is good for college football. I think it is
better this way. There was a a topic that came
up and it didn't really garner the type of traction
that I thought it would. Ralph and it's a bigger

(03:35):
deal then people really want to talk about and I
noticed nobody is talking about it, none of the schools,
none of the coaches. This feels like there was a
memo sent out like hey, yo, yo yo, guys, guys,
we're not gonna talk about this. We're not gonna talk
about Bruno. And that is that Texas Tech was worried
about helmet hacking, and the Big twelve says that it

(03:59):
never happened. And what happened is for everybody that doesn't know,
is that when this year helmet communications for the first
time in college football, we're going to be used where
that just like the NFL coaches can talk to the
players first time ever. And the problem is is that

(04:23):
they were using unencrypted bandwidths or unencrypted you know situations.
Now that matters because one on one hand, if you
have a trans of radio transponder and you know how
to find signals, you can find it just by searching
and finding the signals. So this is what has apparently

(04:45):
been able to go on and.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
Young that's ridiculous, right, anybody younger than us has to
be listening to this right now and saying, what are
you talking about? But do you have people in your
life of police scanners.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
My granddaddy had a police scanner. We used to sit
around and listen to the police scanner at night.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
Me too, my stepmom's dad. We'd sit around and listen
to a police scanner. It's a very very common thing.
I something happened in my neighborhood yesterday. I wish I
had one. I bet you there's college football fans, especially
in Texas, with scanners.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
Do you believe? And well, that's how Texas Tech probably
found out, is that somebody was like, hey, yo, I
found this feed. I guarantee you that's how somebody found out.
Somebody was playing around and they were like yo, yo,
I'm gonna I'm gonna let the let the school know
because if I figured this out, somebody else probably figured

(05:44):
it out too. So the question is do you think
anybody's helmet communication was was hacked. I actually, actually that's
not even hacking because it's it's available, open sourced information.
That's not even hacking. That's just like turning it on.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
Yeah. So my father in law hid his wife's birthday
present in the trunk of their car last week. What
she opened the trunk of the car. Yeah, he was
like cleaning the garage. He's like, well, I'll move it
from the garage to the trunk while I cleaning the garage.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
Oh, you forgot to put him back on.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
Yeah, he was like in the process like it and
and uh, but like that's what that's what people calling
this hacking reminds me of of, like, no they just
were in the area of the thing happening. You know,
you wouldn't even have to be now, I guess if
you went into it with the intent, but it's it's unprotected.

(06:44):
My question is, how do you do you think they're fixing? Like,
do you think this Saturday there's not going to be
just you know, truckers passing by that can get on
the frequency of what zone.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
So apparently there's been an update sent out and things
are gonna be encrypted now. But okay, listen, I'm not
this is college football. I would not be surprised if
people are like, okay, well, you know, we'll just see
if they're not encrypted, if they didn't update theirs or not,

(07:18):
hey whatever, But here, I would leave behind open, though
I would leave mine open if I knew that somebody
was had it. I am disinformation in the hell out
of them. I'm gonna let them get a get get
a couple of calls, right, and then and then say

(07:41):
screen screen, Hey, hey yo, we got to hit the
screen here man, And then and then pump fake bomb. Yeah,
I bet you get off that damn scanner and scanner now.
And then I'd be pointing over the other box like sores,
and then I would crypt Texas tex.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
Texas Tech's been getting made fun of for this, right,
like kind of getting made fun of because they because
they lost two games in a row and so then
and they're the one that reported it. So I think
people were looking at Texas Tech like, oh, they they're
not accepting their losses. But I guess Kirby Hokut was

(08:22):
just like we all get everyone all sixty eight teams
in the Power for got the equipment from the same place. Yeah,
so I think I think they were like, hey, can
we just check, And then when the Big twelve said
it's not happening, Kirby ho Cut was like, okay, cool, cool,

(08:43):
I just you.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
Know, yeah, I wanted to. It just looked like he
was trying to make an excuse as opposed to somebody
just raising an issue of like, hey, yo, this is
not exactly secure and just so everybody knows it's not.
Because it didn't sound like there was any accusations.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
Level said no, somebody affiliate and this is like we
were talking about, there's just people with scanners. Somebody recorded
themselves listening to Joey Maguire's play calls into Baron Morton
or whatever, and they sent it to him. Wow. So

(09:22):
someone was like, hey, heads up, I can hear what you're.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
Doing, bro, bro, and people really don't want to know.
I'm gonna tell you what's said on those headsets. I
promise you that is not for public consumption at all.
You should not want anybody to hear what the hell
is on them had had sets. The players don't even
want to know what's on them headsets. I promise you

(09:47):
that nasty.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
Remember who was the oct at Notre Dame that was
yelling at Drew Pine all the time on that little telephone.
You can bet they say some pretty negative stuff about
their quarterbacks.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
For sure. It was like, oh sorry, ass, I can't
see this, Why we need a new one.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
There's mentions of the portal, for sure that are just
out there that anybody with a scanner could have found.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
Yep, all right, all right. So we got news that
there is going that there is a schedule update happening,
and that is for twenty twenty five. Is that Miami
has now added Notre Dame and they're going to open
the season with Notre Dame next season. I like this

(10:42):
because I like teams playing better schedules. So Miami is
going to have Notre Dame and Florida in the non
conference and UCF legitimate game and but Thune cook me,
I do know, and you know that I am a
person who will bash terrible college football schedules, Ralph, I
approve of this. If you're not gonna play nine conference games,

(11:05):
this is what your schedule needs to look like.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
Yeah. So the interesting thing about this is, you know, yes,
Miami's a premiere program. Notre Dame is a premier program,
but it's you know, it's part of the Notre Dames
kind of one foot in, one foot out thing with
the with with the ages, with the AEC.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
Yeah, and so you know my question is, and I
love I love one offs, but I also love home
and homes. I don't think I don't think this is
a home and home. I think it's just hard rock
stadium opener in twenty twenty five, and Miami is not going.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
Yeah return oh wait, no, no, no, no, no, they do
go to Notre Dame in twenty twenty six.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
Oh okay, oh.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
Yeah, it's a TBA. It doesn't have a date yet.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
Oh okay, So just does TBA also mean that they
could back out because I remember Notre Dame had the
Arizona State home and home, and once they played that
first game, Notre Dame just opted out of the second one.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
Well, they this is a longstanding thing, so they don't
play them in twenty seven, Then they do again in
twenty eight, then again in thirty one, thirty two, thirty four,
and thirty seven, which is insane that schedules are that
far far out in advance. But the thing that I
do notice, though, Ralph, is that beyond twenty twenty six

(12:48):
and the fact that this game is to be announced,
this feels like the ACC is kind of and if
we see other teams start announcing games, I think it'll
mean that the ACC is probably it to nine conference games,
or that there's gonna be some sort of more schedule
realignment at this at this point, so so I think

(13:12):
that that's the Taeiltale sign of that. But the whole
point is we are supposed to be getting better college
football schedules. I was even looking at Oregon schedule and
next year they have Montana State, Oklahoma State, and then
Oregon State. So you know we'll see enough for you.

(13:34):
I mean, the the Oregon State game. That's like a tweener,
right because it's kind of a Mountain West game, but
your arrival and a powerful game.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
As a as an Oregon alum, the way you've always
talked about Oregon State is you kind of shrugged it
if they got rid of that game for a better game.
I know a lot of people would be upset, but
you wouldn't, right, Uh.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
I wouldn't at this point because it doesn't feel fair, Okay,
but I do think the game should exist. I just
want better for Oregon State, if that makes sense. Like
that that I don't want to like. It's not fun.
Beating up on somebody who can't fight back like that

(14:21):
just makes you a turd. If you like that sort
of sort of thing. I am always going to be
a proponent of of tough games and tough schedules, even
if you lose, because as a college football fan, shouldn't
watching good games be the ultimate prize? Shouldn't watching Oregon

(14:46):
m I mean, watching Ohio State and Penn State isn't
that much much better than than watching Ohio State play Mercer?

Speaker 2 (14:58):
Yeah? Yes, I mean it's it's the reason that you
know in you know, I know you're a big UFC fan,
but bigger than me for sure. But it's the reason
that you work yourself up to a certain level, whether
it's through your accomplishments or as a draw. Right. Yeah,
And then you don't like Connor McGregor is not going

(15:20):
to take a fight with somebody who's in their second
third professional fight. Correct, even though he's three and five
in his last eight professional fights. He's a massive draw.
He's not going to put himself up against somebody that
he could just like knock out in the in the
first round and have it be a surprise to nobody.

Speaker 1 (15:38):
Correct.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
And once you get to a certain level in college football,
then you want to go out and test yourself and
challenge yourself every single week. So now that that makes
sense to me, you've been very very consistent on just
wanting better games. And now that the college football Playoff
has expanded, your whole season doesn't hinge on just one
fluke loss.

Speaker 1 (15:59):
Yes, one, and that leads us to the college Football Playoff.
And so the College Football Playoff obviously is twelve teams
this year and two years will be expanded to fourteen teams.
The big ten in the SEC they want for the

(16:22):
guaranteed four spots. Each part of me understands and agrees
with them. Another part of me hates it because I
do believe that the Big Ten and SEC are by
far the two best conferences. On the other hand, there

(16:45):
needs to be a level playing field in college football.
That the idea that whether it's my Oregon Ducks, whether
it's Alabama Georgia has so much more where like Vanderbilt
in what is a fantastic season this year, no matter
how good Vanderbilt does, no matter how well they recruit,

(17:07):
will never win the SEC unless something dramatic changes. They
just can't. So that is an inherent problem to me,
is that no matter how good you do, like, you
can never be the Kansas City Royals who won the
World Series and what like twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, whatever

(17:28):
year it was, that that can't happen. You can't be
the Florida Marlins and win. And in the world of
college football, like Cincinnati can't win the National Championship. Neither can't.
I mean, there's so many teams that have no shot.
Rice has no shot, and there should be opportunity if

(17:51):
you can build it.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
And that's why I like promotion and relegation. I don't
know if you could ever set college football up that way,
but when I'm playing like NCAA fourteen, this is gonna
sound very lame to a lot of people. I don't care.
I had ten years with this one video game because
they never made any updates. What I started to do
is I started to affiliate a group of five conference

(18:14):
with a power five conference, and at the end of
every year, I took the conference champion and I moved
them up to their corresponding conference. So like, if somebody
was in the American and they won the American Conference,
I'd move them to the ACC and I dropped the
bottom team down to the American. And I did it
every offseason because you can manipulate the schedules. And I

(18:35):
mean so giving people other things to win besides national
championships and conference championships could be a really good way
to rectify that.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
I would not mind the promotion and relegation is it
of the conferences, because that'll that'll get you, boy, that'll
get some real people motivated. I mean, just like people
get motivated. Boise State just got a twenty five million
dollar donation, their biggest that they've ever gotten so somebody

(19:05):
out there in Idaho or who went to Boise State.
Because every school has big money people. It is a
matter of if you can motivate them, if football matters
to them, and they have found somebody who is motivating
and they're happy to be moving to the Pac twelve
and everything else. But the question is, Ralph, who is

(19:26):
going to make the college football Playoff at this point
in time, because obviously we're going to have the winner
of the highest ranked group of five team ACC SEC,
Big ten, and Big twelve. All five of those are
going to get in. So now you got seven spots.

(19:48):
And I was kind of trying to do the math
on this this week and really trying to figure out
who it was going to be, and I had I
believe that there will be. I believe that Oregon is
as probably close to a lock in getting in the

(20:10):
top twelve somewhere as you can probably be. Would you
agree with that? Yeah? That then from there people are like, well, well,
George is a lot, but Georgia is not a lot
because Georgia still has to play Florida Ole, Miss Tennessee,

(20:34):
and you know, and Georgia Tech really and so they
can lose if they lose, if they mess around to
people like there's no way they can lose to Florida,
brother damn near lost to Kentucky, so there are no layups.
There are no more layups.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
So Georgia between having five games left and four games
left before the conference championships, yes, huge different I've left
And if they go three and two they don't make
the conference championship, then all of a sudden they're at risk.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
Yes, and if they lose to Florida, but actually, if
they lose to Florida but then beat Tennant Tennessee, they
will get get in. So I would say Georgia probably,
let's are are we okay putting Georgia in?

Speaker 2 (21:21):
I would say yeah. I would put it like, because
you're saying this chance, I would say ninety ten Georgia gets.

Speaker 1 (21:26):
In, okay, so let's put Georgia in. Then we got
Penn State. Is Penn State in win or lose this
Ohio State game because all they got left is Washington, Purdue, Minnesota,
and Maryland, which there's some losable games on that schedule
too with Penn State's offense, but.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
In all likelihood losing to Ohio State and then turning
around and going like eleven and one or ten and
two like they often have. I would say that they
probably have the best chance of any Big Ten teams
to not go to the Big Ten Championship if they
were to lose to Ohio State.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
Okay, so do you believe? Okay? So then there's the
Ohio State conversation. Because Ohio State still has Penn State
and they have Indiana left on this schedule. Do they
win both of those games or none of those games
or one of those games?

Speaker 2 (22:22):
I think as long as they win one, they're in.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
Yeah. I would agree with that too. So let's put
Ohio State in. And I think we're good with putting
Penn State in. But but here is where stuff gets crazy.
Because the Penn State loses to one of them unranked
teams and lost to Ohio State, they could be sitting
on the outside too quickly or right on the cusp.

(22:48):
So Miami, are you putting Miami in.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
Because the ACC still has the opportunity to possibly only
get one team. I'm fifty to fifty on Miami.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
So you think he's only gonna get one one team?
If well, if if Miami plays Clemson in the ACC,
championship and my Miami wins. I think Clemson is not
going to the playoffs because of how badly that they
lost to Georgia.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
Yeah, I think that's where it's I think if the
if you, I think the only way you get two
ACC teams in is if you run two undefeated teams
up against each other in the in the ACC Championship,
which there is still an opportunity to do, or if
Clemson beats an undefeated Miami, then I could see Miami
still getting in as long a yes, it's not like

(23:40):
an egregious yeah, because.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
People are underestimating this pit situation and SMU. But the
problem is that Pitt's back half of the schedule is tough.
They got SMU this week, and they got Clemson so
the uh SO, and they got Louis Louisville too, which
ain't no cakewalk. So they're gonna be in a position
where they could either fly all the way up and

(24:05):
be a potential lot to get in the College Football
Playoff or not. Like that's the the so I would
say Pitt is one of those wildcard teams and that
could end up in the College Football Playoff too. Another
team is Texas so we will go ACC champ which

(24:28):
let's assume that for the sake of an easy discussion,
is Miami. So right now we got Oregon, Georgia, Ohio State,
Penn State, and Miami. So then then let's go to Texas.
Is Texas in or out because they still got to
play Texas A and M and if they Ralph. If

(24:51):
they lose to Texas A and M, they would have
lost to Georgia and Texas A and M and beaten
no ranked teams current ranked teams on the on the season,
even though they would have had Michigan, who is who
will likely have at least four losses, Oklahoma's basically same
position vand the same position and those would be their

(25:15):
best wins.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
With two losses, would they still have the opportunity to
potentially play in the SEC Championship or are we saying that.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
That No, no, no, no, no no. If they lose to
Texas A and M, that's.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
Then you think the A and M.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
Yeah, yeah, that's basically a burrito. That's that's basically going
to take them out because Tennessee is going to be
in front of them potentially in the stats. Well, actually,
Tennessee five in the SEC right, Yes, yes, Texas and
is five and.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
Twice to see back to Texas.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
Yes, yeah, win the game.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
No, you're you're one hundred percent right. Texas is probably
on a fifty to fifty track right now.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
Yep, exactly, and then you got uh from there, and
then you got Notre Dame. I believe Notre Dame is
a lot to get in as long as they went
out because they're already ranked number eight right now. And
if they're yeah, as long as they went went out,

(26:18):
I believe they're getting in the College football playoffs.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
But one loss and they're done, right, Yes? Or do
you think they would get that much of the benefit
of the day.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
No. One, one loss and it's over because they don't
have a conference championship and they lost to Northern Illinois.
It's the Northern Illinois loss. Had they lost to text
saying them, may be fine, but Northern Illinois has too
much for people to stomach. Who wins the Big Twelve?
And can the Big Twelve get more than one team
in because right now they got by U and Iowa State,

(26:50):
both ranked I think they only get one team in.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
I agree with you if it's those two teams because
I would State doesn't play I don't think anybody on
the way, and they don't. They don't play BYU, right,
so they you could.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
Have no, they they have Texas Tech, Kansas, Cincinnati, Utah,
and oh they do have Kansas State.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
Oh okay, so maybe maybe if they beat Kansas State
and you have two undefeated teams and it's a decent
enough game, they would include two. But you and I
both know Iowa State hasn't. They're seven to zero, but
not real. Yeah, they're the weakest undefeated too.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
Yes, agree with you, one hundred percent. Agree with you there.
And then there is BYU. Do you think they can
they're eight? No, can they navigate Utah, Kansas, Arizona State
in Houston?

Speaker 2 (27:50):
Absolutely and every single day that as So if SMU
beat SPIT, then we got to start looking at BYU
as as probably getting into the College Football Playoff because
their schedule, like Utah is falling apart. Uh. The ASU
game in Tempe could be tough, but I marked that

(28:11):
before the season is one, I didn't think ASU was
gonna win.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
Yeah, so.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
They would be They would have the least star power
of any team that made the College Football Playoff, But
undefeated is undefeated, and if SMU is ten and two,
that's a really good win.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
For sure, especially if they beat Iowa State or whoever
they run up against.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
I don't know, I think if I think if BYU,
if SMU beats Pitt, we have to start looking at
BYU as a college football playoff team regardless of what
happens in the Big Twelve Championship.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
That definitely could factor in. How about Clemson because Clemson
is now in a position where they've rattled off what
six straight wins after that thirty four to three lost
to Georgia, They've beaten app State, in C State, Stanford, FSU, Wake, Virginia,
and Louisville. The best records that they have gone up

(29:11):
against Ralph are they're gonna play Louisville, who is five
and three. Aside from that, there's no team that they've
played that's better than four and four.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
I think they kind of have the easiest path because
they could as long as they just would. They have
two ACC games left or three.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
They have the Louisville, Virginia Tech, and Pitt, and then
they got Citadel and South Carolina.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
Yeah, so they're in a position where as long as
they win their ACC games, and they could even lose one.
They could even lose one, like Clemson could lose three
more times and still make the College football Playoffs.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
Well, as long as they don't lose to Pitt. That's
the thing. They can't lose to Pitt though, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
But they could. They could. Clemson could technically be a
four lost team in the college football playoffs.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
Yep, yep. And I think that we're the way they
could lose to the That's the thing about it is
that we're gonna find out, though. Ralph is like, we're
gonna find out that college basketball understands what's going to

(30:28):
happen more than college football understands what's going to happen,
because we're The college football Playoff was expanded to ensure
that the blue bloods get into the playoff, right, to
ensure that you know that that the Alabama Georgia situation
doesn't happen last year, that they both get to go,

(30:50):
that Oregon and Washington that they both get to go
despite what happened that last year. You know that they're
still two of the top twelve teams. That's what it
was created for. But what happens Ralph. When you have
an unexpected conference championship loss for a team that's guaranteed

(31:11):
to get in the playoffs and now an automatic bid
is now given away, that's gonna that's gonna cause the
that's where the drama's gonna come in is when you know,
a three loss cleansing team beats Miami in the ACC
championship and you and you're like Miami sitting here at

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twelve and one and you're gonna leave them.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
Does it make you rethink your opposition to them automatically
going to fourteen in two years or do you think
that's what they had in mind when they did that.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
I think that that's what they had had in mind.
That they want to make sure that the top four
teams from the SEC and the s A seed of
SEC and Big ten get into the playoffs. That's what
that's what they want. I mean. And truthfully, when you
look at the top half of these conferences, it's very interesting.

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So but you and this is where I always talk
about logos matter, because Indiana at eight and oh is
number thirteen. If you put Clemson at eight and oh
with the schedule, they basically played the exact same schedule
if you take off that Georgia game and replace it

(32:31):
with anything, and you just change the Indiana name to Clemson,
who where where are they ranked? Are they ranked thirteenth,
ralph higher?

Speaker 2 (32:41):
Maybe?

Speaker 1 (32:42):
Yes, they're probably rightked six, fifth at eight and oh,
because it's Clemson. And that's where I wonder how the
College Football Playoff Committee is going to deal with the logos,
because because in the AP rankings, Indiana is sitting right
in front of a six and two Alabama team and

(33:07):
when you look at Alabama's wins, that that Georgia win
obviously sticks out majorly. But outside of that, you can't.
I mean, that's the part that's making it so much
more difficult. So I'm actually excited to see how many
teams are going to make it, because these these little

(33:30):
games that are supposed to be, you know, layups, they're
not layups. And we're gonna and some teams are going
to get upset. And I do believe we're gonna have
some big names left out of the playoff and that's
gonna get some real people mad. So, uh, Marcelo put
was it Jason marsh Marcelo Brandon put out a tweet

(33:56):
about college football playoff voters that being given forty five
minute versions of games so they can plow through them.
And I'm like, I was hoping that that was the case.
I was hoping that they that they weren't watching games
with commercial breaks and having to fast forward and everything else.
They and they do a hard job.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
They get them together. They get them together. We've seen
the Yeah, because Paula Boyven, who I know a little bit,
was on the selection committee. They fly them in and
get them together and have them sit in a room
and watch college football all day.

Speaker 1 (34:31):
Yeah. Bro, this is a whole job I would be doing.
I would be watching. I would love to be on
the college football Playoff committee, and I believe I would
do a fantastic job. And I would watch games all
day and nitpick and everything else. And we're we're starting

(34:52):
to learn more about their process. So it's actually interesting.
So Michigan in the University of Michigan, who is having
quarterback problems. They lost a quarterback and a quarterback commit
this this week. So Jack Tuttle, who had played this year,

(35:17):
he has now said, listen, I'm done with football. I have,
you know, too many concussions. So he's out Michigan lost
their commit Carter Smith as well. Now this was a
kid who's ranked the three star right now out of

(35:38):
Bishop rot in Fort Myers, Florida. So I'm wondering what
was this a de commitment or was this a drop?
How do you see it, Ralph? And in terms of
Michigan's quarterback situation.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
Well, does it matter? How is it going to be
spun for the next guy that Michigan's going after? Like it,
there's whatever it was, and however it's gonna be looked at. Right,
So you have you have Michigan, I think on the
season has like six touchdown passes.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
Yes, it ain't it ain't looking pretty.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
And then they have a quarterback commit de commit and
now you could say, okay, well the context of that is,
you know, they they don't need this kid anymore now
that daddy, Dave Portnoy big Bucks came in said that
he was willing. But that's for portal stuff. Yeah, but
you should need chool recruiting.

Speaker 1 (36:38):
Yeah yes, oh yeah, yes, unless they believe that they're
gonna flip some other big name kid for the for
the money.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
But it would only be for the money because you
can't at this point you can't commit to Michigan for
the playing time. You know they're gonna run over. That's
the same as Oregon. That's the same as any high
school kid looking at Oregon. You have to look at
those not just the most recent history, George, but going
back probably ten fifteen years that outside of Marcus Mariota,

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they do look to recruit high school and from up top,
and most of the guys from up top either come
in and start right away, or there's a lot of
pressure on the person who's in the program to hold
them off, like with the Tyler Shuck Anthony Brown situation.
So I would advise, and I don't expect a lot
of you know, high school quarterback prospects watch this show.

(37:36):
I would hope that they would. It's good information and
it's entertaining. But look at minor league baseball. Look at
minor league baseball, and make that your model. Go somewhere
where you can play, prove yourself and level up. You
should be looking at college football. If you're a high
schooler right now, you should be looking at college football
as where can I go in and play? And if

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that's Weaver State, that's we State. Even if you have
offers from uh from big time programs. If you've got
Iowa State and Weaver State, but you know Iowa State's
gonna take a uh transfer out of the portal, then
go somewhere where you're gonna play, because then you're the

(38:20):
person to come in. And I don't know, I don't know,
but I think that I would caution any high school
player who's going to commit to Michigan for the money,
because you're not gonna be on the field.

Speaker 1 (38:32):
Yep, that's one hundred percent. And I actually think we're
gonna see some quarterback flips soon. I think that we're
gonna have uh Jaron uh key ways saga saga Polute.
I think he's gonna flip from from cal Over to Oregon.

(38:54):
I think you're gonna have Julian Lewis potentially flip from
usc to either colorad or Indiana, and then that's gonna
create a free for all for some of these other kids.
That's what I think. Now. The the Carter Smith kid

(39:16):
that just decommitted from Michigan, he's ranked twentieth in in
the country, so he's gonna and he had plenty of
other options and offers, So I think that We're gonna
see some movement in the quarterback landscape because of the
Michigan thing and because of and because of what's gonna

(39:36):
transpire in some other spots as well with some de
commitments because if usc if they lose you to who
they who's been committed for some time, Bro, that is
going to send a panic around there. And I know
that they know that it is possible. So they are
making contingency plans, but it doesn't look like they've been

(39:58):
bringing in other a whole bunch of other twenty twenty
five quarterback recruits. So it's gonna get very interesting, buddy,
because of Dion pulls one of them last minute flips
and that puts them in a in a bad situation.
All them fans gonna go crazy.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
True, very true.

Speaker 1 (40:20):
All right. So the recruiting spending for twenty twenty three,
this has been a like everybody keeps talking about, oh
my gosh, these teams in their recruiting budgets and their
nil budgets and everything else. So Ralph has the list
of how much that people have spent and he wants

(40:41):
me to guess these these school are you ready to go?

Speaker 2 (40:46):
Yeah, So you give me a school, okay, or I'll
give you a school. I guess I'll give you a school.
And then I want you to tell me what you
believe they spent on recruiting, just recruiting.

Speaker 1 (41:02):
Okay in the three school year. Okay, give me a range.
What what what is the top of the list, Like
what number is at the top of the list, and
then what number is like at the bottom of the list.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
Okay, So here's here's an example. We'll go to what
we'll do. We'll do your guys first, because you have
to assume that they're on the very high end of
recruiting spending.

Speaker 1 (41:26):
No, no, no, no, I'm saying, tell tell me what the
number is for the like what's the most money spent?
Don't tell me who? So I can give you a range.

Speaker 2 (41:38):
I I think the most the most money spent is
bordering on like five million dollars.

Speaker 1 (41:47):
What dude, it was like two. It was like Georgia
a couple of years ago spent like two almost three
million of people thought it was out outrageous. And then
what would be a low end number.

Speaker 2 (42:01):
For the power for a low end number would be
seven figures, like just barely seven figures, Okay, would.

Speaker 1 (42:07):
Be okay, cool, Okay, cool. Now I haven't range between
one in one in five million, okay cool, But the.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
Five million I believe is an extreme outlier.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
Okay, I believe. All right, So.

Speaker 2 (42:24):
Let's start with let's start with your boys in the
big ten twenty twenty three recruiting spending University of Oregon.

Speaker 1 (42:34):
Let's go. I want to go like one point nine million.

Speaker 2 (42:42):
Okay, so technically not big ten and twenty twenty three
they were packed twelve. You say one point nine. The
actual number is just over three million dollars. Whoah, God
for twenty twenty three recruitings.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
Good job, good job, That money is well spent. All right.

Speaker 2 (43:06):
Let's do a team that everybody.

Speaker 1 (43:09):
Them boys private jetting all over the place. Bro.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
Let's do a team that when people think of when
they think of this team, they think conservative. But that's
on the field.

Speaker 1 (43:20):
Yeah. Oh oh, hold on, I just want to point
out to people that a lot of these a lot
of this money is spent, Like when these numbers get high,
it is on plane travel. It is on private planes
for coaches, because some of these schools only send their
head coaches on private planes where and then they send

(43:41):
their assistance economy and all of that kind of stuff
where they drive and all this stuff. But for the
bigger programs, the assistance even fly private sometimes or the
majority of time.

Speaker 2 (43:52):
Yeah, and then very rarely, very rarely, it's on things
for the actual business, like they're handing kids bags of cash.
It's that like it's the food at the restaurant. I
think for arch Manning's recruiting visit, they like booked a
cruise or like a boat a boat trip and all
the liquor for the adults. Ye, was part of that spin.

(44:15):
So let's go with Let's go with someone who was
in the Big ten last year, and when you think them,
you think conservative. Let's go University of Iowa. What do
you think their twenty twenty three recruit spend was.

Speaker 1 (44:25):
Now that I know that Oregon spent three million, let's
go with one point four.

Speaker 2 (44:32):
One point four million, okay, two point two four million dollars.

Speaker 1 (44:38):
Oh, so they spent more on that than they actually
spent investigating their their offense and you know, and try
trying to put a better offense together. Good.

Speaker 2 (44:48):
Yeah, I would assume that most of that recruiting spind
went to the defensive side of the ball.

Speaker 1 (44:52):
Yes, Okay, let's.

Speaker 2 (44:56):
Stay in the big ten, and let's go with the
team that is known for just having the most wild
and invested fan base. University of Nebraska.

Speaker 1 (45:05):
Oh, I think they spent some bread, bro. I'm gonna
put them right around my Oregon Ducks, but slightly above.
Let's go if Oregon was at three million, that's put
them at like three point one.

Speaker 2 (45:17):
Two point nine to one million dollars. You're pretty close. Okay,
pretty close. All right, let's jump over to the sec
where it just means more. Let's go big hitter right
out of the gate. Let's go University of Georgia.

Speaker 1 (45:32):
They are they are number one. O. They were number
one last time we did this, but I do believe
Texas probably trumped them because they did some wild stuff.
So I'm gonna put them at number two at like,
and you said the five million was an outlier, so
let's go so I thought, so?

Speaker 2 (45:51):
Okay, So I thought so I thought five million was
an outlier, But I just clicked on University of Georgia's profile.

Speaker 1 (45:59):
Okay, so Georgia. So then we will put Georgia at
number two then, because I believe that Texas probably usurped them,
with some ridiculous things that they did, especially with the
arch manning recruitment. So we will go five point one.

Speaker 2 (46:21):
All right, this is on me for giving you bad information.
Seven point four to six million.

Speaker 1 (46:26):
You get what though? Fuck? Seven million dollars?

Speaker 2 (46:31):
Seven and a half?

Speaker 1 (46:35):
Oh, what are they doing? Are everybody like Chip Kelly?

Speaker 2 (46:40):
They must be? They must be a lobster right when
you hop off the plane, a lobster when you get
back on the plane. God, what are those what are those?
Like those eggs?

Speaker 1 (46:52):
Everything? They're only recruiting for the most part in like
eight states that are bordering what like like the majority
of recruits drive there.

Speaker 2 (47:05):
So let's compare that. Then I'm gonna give you one
more team from the SEC Alabama.

Speaker 1 (47:11):
Okay, I'll give them the five point three.

Speaker 2 (47:16):
Four point one million dollars.

Speaker 1 (47:19):
Yeah, it's weird because Alabama is kind of fiscally a
little more fiscally responsible because Nick Saban kind of recruited
himself a little bit.

Speaker 2 (47:33):
And also all that money went to Nick Saban and
the boosters paying for his housing and his guest house,
and you know, eleven million dollars worth five million dollars
in perks because they knew they'd have to funnel that
money into recruiting. M all right, let's go acc Let's
go acc since we haven't done that yet. The big
boys in the ACCU Miami first and then Clemson second.

Speaker 1 (47:59):
Okay, Miami, I think that they blew the I think
they blew the bag. They're well over for that. They're
in the four million dollars range. Four and a half.

Speaker 2 (48:13):
Well, we don't actually get to know anything.

Speaker 1 (48:15):
Oh yeah, because it's a private school. Dammit, that was
a trick question. I knew that. So Miami USC you're
you're not going to know the answer to those.

Speaker 2 (48:25):
We can speculate that it might be around Alabama level,
maybe more.

Speaker 1 (48:29):
Yes, correct, Yes, that's that's for sure. They christ Baul
got the pocketbooks open over there. And I just want
to point out his comment where he was talking, you
see the trajectory of this team and this bro, you
got a transfer quarterback, if you get a regular quarterback,

(48:49):
you ain't Your trajectory ain't looking like this.

Speaker 2 (48:53):
I'm just saying, yeah, no, came mord is responsible for
at least three of those wins. Yes, now, and don't
you know, and this was twenty twenty three, so whatever
it is, in twenty twenty four. You gotta assume cam
Ward took up a big jest. But let's go with Clemson.
Clemson is the other like ACC Juggernaut. Now they don't

(49:14):
do the portal, so this is just high school recruiting.
What do you think Clemson's budget.

Speaker 1 (49:21):
Was Clemson, Clinton spends money. They spend money recruiting. They
are in that high four million dollar territory four point
eight four million dollars. You nailed it, absolutely high as hell. Yes,
because he like, we're gonna spend all the money on
high school recruit we spend it no money on a portal.

Speaker 2 (49:44):
Very true. Let's go one last one. You give me
the school one that you think, one that you think
is maybe a lot higher than people would realize.

Speaker 1 (49:56):
TCU TCU, Yeah, all right, I think they're higher than
I think TCU and not not not Baylor, but uh,
I think TCU is higher than people would probably think.

Speaker 2 (50:15):
TCU is another one of those that we don't get
to know. I forget because they're there. Christian School, although
you've got you had, Texas was in there last year,
Oklahoma was in there last year.

Speaker 1 (50:28):
I think Oklahoma spent less than people probably would.

Speaker 2 (50:31):
Think Okay, you think Oklahoma is under four below Nebraska.

Speaker 1 (50:43):
Nebraka below Oh no, no, no, no, no no, I think
they're above Nebraska. But yeah they're under four million. I
give them under three and a half million.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
Okay, are you ready?

Speaker 1 (50:54):
Yep?

Speaker 2 (50:55):
Five point six.

Speaker 1 (50:56):
I don't know shit, I don't know anything clearly, clearly.
I'm I don't know. I don't know. I don't know
anything clearly.

Speaker 2 (51:05):
For anybody who wants to look this stuff up, it's
Knight new House Data dot org. Night like Knight in
Shining Armor, new House Data dot org.

Speaker 1 (51:13):
Perfect. All right, h can you tell me about this
Ross Dellinger article as it related to Pittsburgh.

Speaker 2 (51:23):
Yeah, so pitt is seven and zero and when you
get to this point in the season and you're undefeated, Uh,
people start to wonder how did this happen? Narratives will
get narratives will get spun. Uh. People want to know,
right And Pat n er Dutsi's an interesting guy because
he's been very outspoken on the portal on tampering. You know,

(51:49):
he he didn't he had the opportunity to replace his
oc with Brennan Marion. He didn't like him or his
vibe and he said no, and and after not bringing
in Brendan Marion, he had an offensive staff that he
wasn't super impressed by. So ross Ellinger interviewed patn R
Duty and the leadoff quote in this is is pretty wild.

(52:14):
So the title of the article is howd pattern or
Duty turn around Pitt nil cuts, tough conversations and an
offensive overhaul. The lead quote from this is patn Er
Duty said, shit, I have to clean house. Yeah, so
he got rid of his entire offensive staff because they
won three games. He said they had a structure where

(52:34):
everyone was getting paid and that didn't work for us,
so we changed it. That that's Chris Bigle, a tech
entrepreneur in pitt Booster who founded the school's collective and
donated twenty million of his own money. So he said,
like we were paying everybody. Patn or Duty got rid
of the offensive staff. They changed the way that they

(52:54):
were compensating. And Patner Duty said, money's not what gets
you a championship. If it did, all these teams that
have spent all this freaking money would be good. Then
he name dropped Florida State and Michigan has spending money
and not winning. He said, I'd rather have hungry players.
You want to know how he got from three to
nine to now, that's how hungry players?

Speaker 1 (53:17):
Bro, that is crazy. That is crazy that he actually
said that. Now there's a lot of coaches who believe that,
but actually saying it is diabolical.

Speaker 2 (53:32):
Yep. And he brought in Cade Bell from Western Carolina
with a motion, filled up tempo scheme, all purpose back,
Desmond Reid obviously Eli Holstein from Alabama, and so you know,
they changed up the system. And yeah, I mean that's
you know, and some of these wins have been comeback,
which is interesting. Do you feel like do you feel

(53:55):
like because it's not like Pitt's been dominating, they've been winning,
you get credit for winning. All that matters is the
end result. I believe that. But the way in which
they're winning. Do you get to go out and call
out Florida State and Michigan when you do that?

Speaker 1 (54:12):
No, No, when.

Speaker 2 (54:14):
You're the back kid, when you're the cardiac Panthers.

Speaker 1 (54:17):
Well listen, bro, you Pitt has not done enough, honestly
at this point in time, to be calling out anybody.
They got wins over Kent State, Cincy, West Virginia, Youngstown,
a bad North Carolina, Team cal and Syracuse. That's what
they got. They got the meet of this schedule coming up.
They got SMU, Clemson, Louisville, Boston College, and Virginia. They

(54:41):
could lose three games and finish the season eight and three. Yes,
it'd be a huge turnaround. But that ain't enough to
be talking shit.

Speaker 2 (54:51):
But they did so, But it is. It is important.
I think for a lot of the people who run
collectives or affiliated with collectives that you can't just pay
everyone correct.

Speaker 1 (55:04):
And people panic when they're talking about money. They get like,
oh my my god, this If we don't give a
given more, he's gonna leave. Leave, Then FAM leave And
I'm of that same cut from that same cost. Here
is what we got for you. Here, Here is where

(55:25):
you rank with the with the rest of our players.
If you want to leave a good situation where we
love you, you're utilize all of these things for an extra
We're paying you five hundred thousand dollars. You want to
leave for six twenty five and have a questionable situation,

(55:47):
have at it, FAM, have at it, because we got
to keep these things in line where how our highest players,
our best players are making the most money. And then
we tear down from there.

Speaker 2 (56:00):
But how do you tell? How do you tell if
somebody is about money and somebody's about process. I was
listening to an interview the other day with jud Apatow, right,
producer for all these major comedy films. He has no hobbies,
he spends no money. He's like, the cool thing for
me is if I if I want concert tickets, I

(56:20):
can get them. That's cool for me. But he's he's
probably got well over one hundred million dollars in the bank.
He has nothing, He has no things that he like
hones in on that, like money has changed his life.
How do you tell when a kid is like, okay,
with the fruit of their labor sitting in their bank account,

(56:43):
but it's not going to make them softer? How do
you tell?

Speaker 1 (56:46):
You can tell by the way they work. You can
literally tell by the way they work. There are some
people when you give them a little bit of money, right,
it changes the way they work it. And it's obvious
to everybody who can see it. It's obvious. And and

(57:08):
I've seen it many many times in the in the NFL,
and you guys have seen it too, Ralph, there are players,
how many times have you seen a dude get get
paid and you're like, oh cool, Like like, for instance,
let's look at T. J. Watt, who just signed one
hundred million dollar deal like a year or two ago,

(57:31):
good example. Has that changed anything? Do you do you
believe that the organization even wondered like I wonder if
this is gonna change change things?

Speaker 2 (57:44):
No, but I bet you San Francisco forty nine ers
wondered about Brandon Ayuk. You know, you've pointed out, even
though you've pointed out that he what he did.

Speaker 1 (57:53):
To get to this point was exactly what.

Speaker 2 (57:57):
Yeah, like, but he was very in the contract renegotiation.
He's very focused on the money.

Speaker 1 (58:04):
Yes, yes, yours. When it's about the money, it's supposed
to be about the money. There's time for play and
there's a time for pay. But it's always obvious, Ralph
when you give a kid to money, because you give
him a little bit first, and then you're like, oh, okay, okay,

(58:24):
I see this hasn't changed anything. Like, for instance, I
would be terrified at this point in time, not of
I mean, because he's nowhere near extension worthy well extension time,
like he can't even get one for it until at
least another two seasons. I would be terrified to give
Malik Neighbors any money right now, despite how good he is.

(58:47):
Terrified because he's a baller on the field. But he
did stuff like not wearing the team issue gear when
he was inactive, went to a concert when he was
in concussion protocol, like just stuff like that and was
kind of flippant about it. That scares me because if
I now give you thirty million dollars a year and
you know I'm married to you, now you'll be like ah.

(59:13):
But he still has time to mature past that. But
I'm just saying I'm cautious of that. I'm always because
I'm gonna give you a little bit of something first
test you out. Like, for instance, I know that there's
a so here, here's a story. There's a kid on
a current college football roster making seventy thousand dollars a month.

(59:39):
He was in a classroom. Teacher was talking to him,
didn't really have a positive experience, and he was like, bro,
you can't say nothing to me. I make way more
money than you do. Oh no. And now the kids
are absolutely ball are on the field, but every now

(01:00:02):
and then he does some he does some crazy stuff.
So the question is though, and now that particular coaches like, nah,
now it's time that it's time to get him up
out of here, despite him being a baller.

Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
Yeah, I think but that if if money is your
true north, once you get it, what's your motivation? Right?
So that's why that's why you don't see this with
quarterbacks that often, because it's hard to be a poor
quarterback and make it through junior high, high school, college
and not you know, not have had the opportunities to

(01:00:40):
go to camps. Now I've had the opportunities to. You know,
it's kind of a privileged like being a quarterback is
as close as you can get as being like a
baseball player, like your parents have to have the the
financial freedom and ability to get off work to go
to six games in a week, right while you're a
baseball So you know that a lot of quarterbacks, it

(01:01:03):
kind of weeds itself out over time because they didn't
really want for anything. So the ones who are about
the process, they rise to the top. Not every other
position on the football field is like that in my opinion.
And so you know, a defensive lineman, you know, what
are you gonna do? When you actually take that hunger away,

(01:01:25):
that five thousand calorie day hunger goes away because they
can afford it, you know what happens, And so I
don't know, it's it's it's a really really interesting time.
But for for Pat and our duty to say like, no,
we're gonna you know, we're gonna focus on who's hungry,
that doesn't always result in going from three to nine
to seven and oh right away. Sometimes there's some growing pains.

Speaker 1 (01:01:47):
That's a fact. All right. Now, let's get to the
picks in the games this this weekend, and there's a
bunch of games going on. We got the line has
moved on somebody these games. But we will start with
the Penn State hosting Ohio State nine am kickoffs. So

(01:02:09):
we're gonna know the ending to this one easy. It
started out as a four point spread last Sunday and
now it's down to three for Ohio State. So that
appears that Drew Aller is going to play four Penn
Penn State. Who do you like in this game? Ralph?

Speaker 2 (01:02:29):
I'm spooked by what USC did to to Penn State.
I thought they were this impenetrable defense and maybe at
home they will be but when I look at like
talented skill position players, Ohio State is above USC not
a quarterback everywhere else? Yeah, well debatable, right, There's those

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are two good quarterbacks yeah, Will and Will Yeah, better receivers,
better running backs. And so I'm gonna take the buck Eyes.

Speaker 1 (01:03:00):
I'm gonna take the Buckeyes too. I will believe Penn
Steak can win this game. When Penn State wins this game.
How far would you be willing to go? Because I
think three is an easy take. It wasn't four at
one point. How far would you be willing to go
with this spread and still take the buck Eyes? A six,

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maybe five and probably five and a half. Probably five
and a half is about as far as I would go?

Speaker 2 (01:03:31):
How much hell is the losing coach gonna get in
the media on Sunday Monday?

Speaker 1 (01:03:36):
What do you mean, dude? It if if Ryan Day
loses this football game, Ryan Day like his job is
going to be on the line in that Indiana game.
He will be fired if they lose. That is a
if they lose to Penn State and then lose to Indiana,

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he has won one hundred percent getting fired because then
they are going to miss the Codge football playoffs, he
will be fire. They won't wait till the end of
the season. They will wait till the brackets come out
and then be like, ah, gone.

Speaker 2 (01:04:09):
I just had the most insane thought. What dude, No
one in the world had ever heard of what Chip
Kelly did until he did it, leaving UCLA over five
million dollars a year to go run an offense somewhere.
What if he knew? What if he knew that by

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the end of the season he was gonna be the
head coach of the Ohio State Buck guys.

Speaker 1 (01:04:34):
But there's no way, There's no way, There's no way,
because it would be his his offense that wasn't scoring
that would have led them to losing though too, not
against Oregon. It wasn't Yeah, true, true, they put up
thirty one points.

Speaker 2 (01:04:49):
Yeah, and then we talked about you know you I
It was.

Speaker 1 (01:04:54):
Like, and if they lose like thirty five, thirty eight
in this game and then lose the Indiana game like
forty two, forty forty five, that that could actually happen.

Speaker 2 (01:05:08):
The biggest complaint for Ohio State fans right now is
their defense. Yeah, they don't believe Ryan Day has the
ear of his own defense of Larry Johnson and gymnoles.

Speaker 1 (01:05:18):
M Ralph, I'll just go with interim interim. Yeah damn,
that'd be crazy. Yeah. So, but so Ryan Ryan Day's
gonna be under a massive heater, like he's going to
be on an ejecto seat. It'll go from warm to

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ejecto seat if they lose to Penn State, because like
it'll turn that Indiana game into an ejective, like like
they will tarmac him if he loses both of these games.
But then for James Franklin, he's not gonna be fired
if he loses close game. He's been recruiting. Well, they're

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like he'll be under fire from the national media. But
but Penn State fans are just gonna be like, look,
we just need to make some tweaks, which is probably
the most reasonable answer, right because Jim Harbaugh couldn't get
it done until Jim Harball could get it done. Even
though he had some help, he couldn't get it done

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until until then. So all of these expectations that your
coach is gonna be in the playoff every single year
when national championships and every like, people are down on
Dabbo right now. They had a good run and maybe
he can rekindle it at some point in point in time.
But firing a great coach is silliness to me. A

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lot of a lot of times that you need an
extended period where it's not happening. And Penn State, I
think is actually in good shape with him. He's just
got to figure out, you know, some explosive offense. If
Pence they get some explosive offense, they are going to
be able to beat anybody every single year.

Speaker 2 (01:07:10):
Yeah, I mean they they They got to feel at
this point like they're a playmaking quarterback away from having
having a generational rut from being what Georgia has been.

Speaker 1 (01:07:21):
Yep, yep, Old Miss at Arkansas. This game started out
on Sunday as Arkansas plus six. Now it's up to
seven and a half. I like Arkansas at seven and
and at seven and a half because they've been losing
games by one score games and that gives me. And

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it's not like Old Miss has just been out here
just tearing the cover off of things. They yes, they
beat up South Carolina bad, but then they lost to
LSU and they beat Oklahoma, who's got no offense, by
eight points. Arkansas can hang in this game, as long
as they don't give up long touchdowns and force Old

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Miss to try to score in the red zone because
they are terrible scoring in the red zone.

Speaker 2 (01:08:18):
I personally feel like Ole Miss only has one problem one.
What's that they can't finish? That's it. Otherwise you're the
perfect football team to me. Really, Yeah, they're.

Speaker 1 (01:08:38):
Their offense gets stagnant some sometimes where they they're not
able to run the football. Lam Kiffin is always going
to be able to put up yards passing like that,
you're not gonna be able to stop.

Speaker 2 (01:08:50):
But if you if you could design the perfect if
you could design the football team with two things being
top five in the Cuntree, two things being top five
in the country, would you not pick passing game and
uh and run defense?

Speaker 1 (01:09:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:09:11):
Yeah, they're a top They're a top eight passing offense
and a top like they're like the top run defense
in the country, aren't they? They're top four scoring defense?

Speaker 1 (01:09:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:09:24):
How do they have two losses.

Speaker 1 (01:09:27):
Ralph because they've played Furman, Middle Tennessee State and Wake
for Is, which they gave up a total of nine points. Too.
They only gave up three in South Carolina. The data is.

Speaker 2 (01:09:39):
Less about them, and it's more about but even in
their losses, the data includes their losses passing yards.

Speaker 1 (01:09:45):
And yeah, but they also get four free they got
Furman Middle Tennessee State Wake in Georgia Southern. And then
Kentucky's offense is bad too, yeah it's and Oklahoma's offense
is bad. They haven't played any good offenses.

Speaker 2 (01:10:04):
Okay, so then forget all that they have scored. They
have stopped other people scoring. Let's go on talent alone.
Does this bring us back to the hunger conversation? They did?
They take away some people's hunger.

Speaker 1 (01:10:18):
No. I think that they built a collection, that there's
still a team that is jelling, that that they built
a collection, that they built a roster and not a team,
and that and now that Georgia game literally is probably
for all the marbles, because if they have losses to Georgia,
LSU and Kentucky on their roster, bro the the playoff

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could be toast.

Speaker 2 (01:10:45):
I have to believe all miss can win by ten.
I have to, and I know that I don't always
have to. Yeah, I'm a writer die and sometimes I die,
So we'll miss by ten.

Speaker 1 (01:11:02):
All right. Oregon started out at fourteen and a half
point favorites at Michigan. Now that line is the exact same.
I got the Oh I didn't. I didn't even tell
you the old Miss game. Oh I said, I got Arkansas.
This time, I got the Ducks minus fourteen and a half.
I would probably take this up to about seventeen.

Speaker 2 (01:11:27):
Oregon's margin of victory is twenty one this year, and
their competition has been pretty good, and that includes only
the one point win over Ohio State. Right, So, I
don't know what two quarterback systems from Michigan you think
that could work.

Speaker 1 (01:11:46):
Well, well, I don't think it can work, especially when
you know that one of them ain't gonna throw the football.
Alex Orgy's not throwing the football unless it's trying to
surprise you. So when he comes in the game, you
know it's going to be a run play or some
sort of Trickim Dickham pass play. And when Davis Warren

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is in the game, you know it's like a regular offense.
And if you can confuse him, he will throw you
the football happily, or he will just hold on to it.
This is an optimal scenario for Oregon as long as
they don't turn the football over and it'll give him

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a good hostile road environment because Michigan's fans are going
to be turned up hoping for an upset, and then
about halftime things will settle down a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:12:45):
I worry that Dylan Gabriel turns the ball over a
little too much. It's not that much, but it's like
the only problem with the offense that exists.

Speaker 1 (01:12:53):
Yeah, because he had those two weird picks in the
end zone against Michigan State and then the pick six
at UCLA.

Speaker 2 (01:13:06):
I'm gonna be I'm gonna be a contrarian on this
and I'm gonna say I'm gonna take Michigan. But I
do believe it'll be four I'm like, right in there
on that edge of that half point is what I'm
counting on. I think a fourteen.

Speaker 1 (01:13:16):
Point so the could be like thirteen or fourteen point win.

Speaker 2 (01:13:19):
Yes, yes, And I because I keep thinking back to
that drive that Michigan went on to beat USC Yeah,
where they took ten minutes off the clock. If that
happened once and that that kind of like. But I say,
I would say no change. I would put my house
on Oregon winning.

Speaker 1 (01:13:36):
Yeah, I told I totally agree, totally agree with that,
all right. We got Texas Tech plus fourteen and a
half when it opened at Iowa State. That game is
now down to thirteen, and I have for Iowa State.
I don't understand this line, so I'm taking Texas Tech, uh,

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because this makes no sense to me. I do not understand.
How like when you watch Iowa State, nothing about their
offense says we can We can score a lot of points.
So it's like, yes, their defense is good, but Texas
Tech can can score. I don't understand. If UCF put

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up thirty five, Baylor put up twenty one, how are
we thinking that this is gonna be a two score victory.
I do not understand, Ralph, I.

Speaker 2 (01:14:29):
Don't I Iowa State has not impressed me yet this year.
They got a really good shot out of ten wins,
and I'm rooting for it personally. I want to see
it happen. You do, But yeah, I mean, it's like
the Cubs winning the World Series. It's got nothing to
do with me. It's my team wasn't playing in that
World Series. So yeah, I want to see the streak ends,

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you know. Same with the Red Sox. I would love
to see one hundred year streak.

Speaker 1 (01:14:53):
In for well, one of us wants Texas Tech to
win this game, and for a certain reason, even though
totally out of the challenge.

Speaker 2 (01:15:04):
True, true, that's the team you stole from me. Texas
Tech winning makes ASU look better. I suppose I think
that I don't know Iowa State could win this game.
I just don't think they're as good as their seven
and zero record. They don't they don't defend the run.

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They're passing defense, and they haven't played anybody they could pass,
not a single team, not one yep. So that those
numbers seem skewed to me. And while they move the
ball on offense, they don't move the ball like keep
up with somebody who's going to score forty yep. And yes,
I am aware they just won a high scoring game.

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But correct, I don't know. This is way too big
of a spread for me. Give me Texas Tech.

Speaker 1 (01:15:54):
All right. We got Pittsburgh plus seven and a half
at SMU. Now that line is still the same text
SMU's favorite by seven and a half at home. Excuse me,
not at pitt at SMU. I think that pitt Last
week when they played Syracuse, it felt like that they

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were listening to Syracuse's calls pre snap and knew exactly
what they were gonna do. It was the most unbelievable.
I have never seen defense play like just perfectly every
single play. And I think that they are going that

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Pitt that the glass slipper falls off this weekend. Is
Kevin Jennings healthy?

Speaker 2 (01:16:46):
Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 1 (01:16:47):
Okay, that's SMU's quarterback. So if he's healthy, give me SMU.

Speaker 2 (01:16:55):
I'm checking real quick. But then, why do you Kevin
Jennings medically cleared for pitch down?

Speaker 1 (01:17:01):
Yay, I'll take them seven and a half points, but
I do think it's gonna be right on the custer.
This is either gonna be a seven point win or
a ten point win for SMU.

Speaker 2 (01:17:14):
SMU did lose their best receiver.

Speaker 1 (01:17:19):
No matter they come, a diamond doesn't.

Speaker 2 (01:17:21):
And Kevin Jennings, if he is banged up, he does
a lot of running. That could slow him down a
little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:17:26):
Mm hmm. I think Pitt's gonna come in overconfident after
last game. They got the whole shark thing going. They
think that hey they you know, they issue don't stink
right right now, and they gonna catch that fade. They
go catch it hell.

Speaker 2 (01:17:44):
All right, Well, I'm I'm gonna give a piece offering
to my least favorite online fan base, and I'm gonna
pick pitt.

Speaker 1 (01:17:51):
All right. Well, you guys, those are the picks for
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