December 12, 2025 • 53 mins
College Football Playoff chaos, Michigan football scandal fallout, and Notre Dame’s College Football Playoff deal all collide in this episode of College Football Apostles with George Wrighster and Ralph Amsden. Sherrone Moore’s firing at Michigan, the burner account that helped expose the scandal, and the long-running culture issues inside the Wolverines’ program are on the table as George and Ralph debate whether Ward Manuel has to go and if Michigan needs to completely clean house to move forward. They break down why Moore was hired in the first place, how much he knew about the Connor Stalions era, and why Michigan might have believed the school would always protect its own – right up until it didn’t.
From there, the conversation shifts to Notre Dame’s sweetheart CFP deal and the blowback from the Irish opting out of a bowl game. George and Ralph dive into how Notre Dame’s automatic playoff access if it finishes in the top 12 is rubbing the SEC, Big Ten, ACC and Big 12 the wrong way, and why other leagues might band together to freeze the Irish out of future scheduling if South Bend keeps flexing on everyone. They break down the growing “World War I” vibe in college football, with power brokers and commissioners lining up on different sides of the Notre Dame drama.
The guys also break down the 12-team College Football Playoff bracket, asking whether byes are actually an advantage after last year’s semifinal field came from seeds 5–8. They walk through potential paths for Indiana, Ohio State, Georgia, Texas Tech, Oregon, Ole Miss, Miami and more, including upset picks and national title predictions that will have fanbases fired up. Finally, George and Ralph talk transfer portal and NIL quarterback money—what a Heisman-caliber QB will cost, which dual-threats can change a program’s future, and how schools should approach the exploding QB market. If you want smart, honest, no-fluff college football talk that isn’t afraid to touch scandals, power plays and big money, this 53-minute episode is for you.
Chapters:
00:00 Intro, Sharone Moore scandal & Michigan culture questions
06:30 How the burner account and rivals exposed Michigan’s “worst kept secret”
14:30 Ward Manuel’s future and whether Michigan has to clean house
21:20 Kalen DeBoer rumors, impossible candidates and Michigan coaching search talk
26:40 Notre Dame’s automatic CFP berth and bowl opt-out backlash
31:40 Notre Dame vs ACC, SEC, Big Ten and Big 12 — college football’s “Cold War”
36:05 Are CFP byes actually a disadvantage? 12 vs 16-team playoff debate
39:30 Breaking down CFP matchups and national title predictions
48:45 Transfer portal QB market, NIL money and who’s worth $4–6 million
52:30 Which quarterbacks George and Ralph would pay for & closing thoughts
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
College Football Apostles.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
It's your boy George Rice with my main man, Ralph Amsden,
the rain Man himself, and yes, I understand there have
been some audio issues with a little bit of a reverb. However,
we're calling in the geek squad. We will get this
nailed down and figure it out because we know that
you guys love the show based upon how long you
(00:24):
watch it.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
So thank you guys for coming.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
We appreciate your time, Appreciate your energy because your times
the most valuable thing that you have. Appreciate your spending
it with us. Make sure that you like subscribe, get notifications,
and tell a friend about the show. We got to
talk about Sharon Moore at Michigan, we got to talk
about the college football Playoff, and we got to talk
about Notre Dame trolling everybody. So this is and kind
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of the fallout because there are some people that just
learned that were a couple days old. Couple, I was
today years old a couple days ago when they learned
that Notre Dame was going to get an automatic birth
into the college football Playoff as long as they are
in the top twelve, no matter even if it's like
this year, we're to cut off is ten automatic birth
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and if it expands to fourteen top thirteen expands the
sixteen top.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Fourteen, that is a sweetheart deal.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
And so we're going to talk about that, but we're
going to start with Charome Moore Michigan. And mind you,
there is a video that did yesterday on the channel
talking about what I believe is probably the wildest part
of this story is that the same burner account Ralph
(01:41):
that outed John matterears venmo account is the same account
that then posted on December first that Michigan was about
to fire Charome Moore for some sort of scandal and
and infidelity. And then you had a case of and
(02:05):
then other people jump jumped in like a former racist
Michigan quarterback who's been right about everything except for the
fact that he didn't like black people.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Current current racist former quarterback. Yes, current racist former quarterback.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Yes, But he was right about it. So sometimes you can't.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
You can't dismiss a message all the time because you
don't like the messenger, and the messenger you might not
like the messenger, but his but his information was accurate.
So apparently this was the worst kept secret in an
arbor and anybody that dared ask about it got shut down.
It was painted as a salacious, you know, internet message
(02:54):
board rumor, but it turned out that there was truth
to it, like they even had the two four seven
site inside was it inside.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Michigan or whatever it's called.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Buying into the fact that this was an elaborate hoax.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
And then there have been reports that.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Ward Manual and Michigan knew this for months and they
kept it quiet. And then the young lady the ladies
report is is that she then went to the athletic
department yesterday and gave him all the proof and said, yes,
we did it, and then they fired him. But the
(03:39):
newest thing, I don't know if you've seen seen this, Ralph,
is that apparently war Michigan was alerted that Sharon Moore
was dealing with mental health issues. He's smart right here,
He's smart here dealing with mental health issues. Yet athletic
director Ward Manual fired him alone, with no HR representative
(04:03):
and no security present accord for Nicole Arback. And this
is on the Yahoo Sports Twitter, Ralph. I have said
from jump, Sharon Moore's only option is to take the
nuclear option, which is either I'm a sex addict, I'm
on drugs, I'm having mental health issues.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Some work for Erbenmeyer. But so I what is the
wildest part of this story to you?
Speaker 3 (04:37):
The wildest part, Yes, I would say fresh off of
watching the same four part documentary that you watched, Oh
to Diddy, Yeah, that your that the information that can
do the most damage to you fell in the hands
(05:01):
of one of your greatest enemies. Because yeah, there was
a burner that posted pretty specific details on December first
and then took them down. And that burner was the
same one that posted the John matteer Venmo information. Yes,
but in the months leading up to that post, you
(05:23):
had a guy named Justin Spiro, who is a Michigan
State alum, dropping these sinister videos Darko News something, Darko
News Nation or something like that. Justin Spiro you had
him for months going on spaces and saying that that
(05:48):
Sharon Moore was about to get the Arkansas treatment. And
then you also had him posting these videos, these edited
videos of like mel Tucker with glowing eyes and Sharon
more in a neck brace, like Bobby Petrino, just repeatedly
alluding to the fact that a scandal was coming, and
he would tag Sharon more in all these tweets, just
(06:10):
pestering and pestering, and you tell people, wait till you
see what I have in store, Wait till you see
what I have in store, and you would just drop
all these hints. And it got to the point where
Michigan Insider and the guy who runs Michigan Insider had
to come out on their own internal threat and say
there's no truth to any of this. I guess the
(06:36):
most shocking part to me would be how the specifics
of this information ended up in the hands of somebody
who is so adversarial to University of Michigan for whatever reason,
who knows, and that it would just slow, tortuously slow
(06:57):
drip like this until it would break out. Curious what
the motivation would be to hold some of that information back,
to continue to hint at.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
It, because you can't like, it's just like this.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
So apparently the so what the reports are is that
Michigan investigated this over the summer and they couldn't substantiate
anything because Sharon wore and Page whatever her name is
said that they could that no, that it did not happen,
so absent you know, video evidence, they can't do anything
(07:34):
because they both said said no. Now, there are some
people that are confused because they're like, yo, how do
you get fired for cheating on your wife? Well, a
lot of these college coaches have morals clauses, and had
this happened outside of the building, he might have been fine.
But this happened inside the building, and that creates liability.
(07:59):
We've had all of these universities in Michigan State, Ohio State,
Michigan sued out the Yahoo for stuff that has happened
off the field by doctors and everything. So they are
going to be hot on anything that creates additional liability
or lawsuits. Now with that, I believe that Michigan was
(08:23):
not happy with Sharon Moore either that if he had
been a coach that was a free agent available for
this hiring cycle or even just now, Ralph, how many
teams do you think called Sharon Moore and was like, Yo,
do you want to take this Auburn job?
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Do you want to take this Florida job? You want
to take this UCLA job?
Speaker 2 (08:47):
How many people do you think called him?
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Zero?
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Correct? We I mean we believe that that's correct.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
So if other people aren't checking for you, and when
you look at when he got the job. It didn't
feel like Ralph and and we were talking about this earlier.
It didn't feel like anybody else could could get the
job right.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Right right. It felt like it was it was gift
wrapped and hand it over. And there's a lot of
people that felt a certain type of way about that.
But no, it didn't feel like there was an open
process at all in handing the job off to Sharon Moore.
He's who filled in during Jim Harbaugh's suspension, and one
(09:40):
of the great arguments against bringing him on is if
he's so good, why didn't Jim Harbaugh want to take
him with But obviously you're going to make more money
as head coach of Michigan than you would as an
offensive coordinator in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Yeah, But the other part is it feels like he
also because he was there for the whole Connor Stallion's things,
he deleted his text, he knew where the bodies were buried.
So now you get an opportunity because.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
He had been dirt on his hand. He was a
shovel bearer. George.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Yes, yes, he knew where the bodies were buried because
he dug some of the holes, and so Michigan was like,
all right, Jim, Jim Harball's gone all of these we
know that there's gonna be punishment coming down in scrutiny.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
We're not going to be in that.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
They're gonna be some of the top coaches that are
gonna say no to this job just because of they
don't know what's coming after. So let's hire Sharon More.
He did a good job when Jim Harball was out.
If we don't like it, it's at five and a
half to six million dollars a year.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
We can get rid of his ass quick. Yeah, I'm
just gonna be speculative here for a second. Well, I'm
gonna take it. We'll let's take this train of thought
as far as it will go. Okay, Sharon Moore was
part of the advanced scouting scandal. Yes, he deleted his
(11:16):
texts and he lied to the NCAA. I only know
who Charon Moore is and this actually played out on
our show. So if you've been watching our show for
the last couple of years, you know, welcome back. Thank
you for being a loyal viewer. I found out who
Sharon Moore was because he gained a commitment from an
Arizona State offensive lineman two weeks before that lineman was
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even in the portal. And so what we joked on
this show about, not only is recruiting rampant in college football,
there's a dude who's under scrutiny in ann Arbor right
now doing it even though the world is collapsing around
him for other reasons. So they must feel super safe
because there is open recruiting going on prior to as
(12:03):
people would call it tampering, and in my knowledge at
the time, it was coming from Sharon Moore, I said
on this show, watch this oligneman is going to go
to Michigan and they weren't even in the portal yet.
Now we have this situation where an ongoing affair that
has been admitted to and created the opportunity to fire
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Sharon Moore was investigated over the summer. And whatever an
investigation entails, I don't know. If it's bringing two people
into your room and they both say no and you
say like, all right bye, we know that that happened.
We have the TMZ phone call that came out that
said that that was being discussed to dispatch saying the
(12:46):
complaint the complaint. He was saying, this is a person
that's been stalking me for months. Months would date back
to possibly the initial investigation. How do you stalk somebody
who you work with every day. Well, maybe you try
to keep your thumb on them and you try to
keep information in house even though guilt is eating them up.
(13:07):
Rumors abound. Somehow you know it got out somewhere because
people like a former scholarship quarterback, a former roommate of
less miles at Michigan is posting your picture online a
week before you ever go into the office to admit
any of this stuff. And you have to wonder, did
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Michigan and Ward Manual, through their defense and war with
the NCAA, create and set a culture in which the
people who were still there believed the school would have
their back no matter what they do. Or is the
person em.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
A lot of people and I think six people on
Jim Harborough staff have ended up in handcuffs.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
This is true? This is true? Or is somebody who
was involved in with every single one of those people
who ended up in handcuffs, who was given the job
without a proper search. Are they in possession of enough
knowledge to grant them the type of impunity to behave
in a way that everyone on earth knows you should
(14:16):
never do. The person that Sharon Moore spent the most
time with shared responsibility for calling the offense with is
under a federal investigation for breaking into thousands of college
female athlete social media accounts and stealing their personal information,
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their intimate personal photos. And that was your closest coworker.
You have proven that you are not actually an elite
effective offensive coordinator. Yet you march to the National Championship
with advanced scouting from one of the most obsessive fans
(14:57):
in the history of gaining employment in to a collegiate
atmosphere in Connor Stallions, and you delete your text with him,
you lie to the NC double A about it, and
then the reason that you give for deleting them is
that you are just so frustrated with how this young
man could.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Have been so help here individual.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
And then and then you carry the weight of a
lie of an affair when you were married to a
former college athlete who has a doctorate, you got three
beautiful daughters, and you carry that lie into the season,
and you make that person that you're having an affair
with feel as though you are threatening their physical well
being over the course of an entire college football season,
(15:41):
and then you end up in jail with pending charges,
rumored to have broken into their house and brandished a weapon.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Do you realize how in one day.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
It right?
Speaker 4 (15:55):
But you and I have been around a bunch of
unstable people, and there are always bunches and bunches of signs.
Are you so defensive of a person who is engaged
in all these things that you're blind to it? Or
does that person have something on you? And that's that
(16:17):
at this point is the thing that I'm most curious
about because no one, no Michigan fan I know, wanted
him to be their head coach, and they could jokingly say,
what does he have on this athletic director?
Speaker 3 (16:29):
And we know that there's something. We know that that's
not everything came out about what happened to Michigan.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
So I look at this Ralph and I'm and I
see Sharon Moore, I see Michigan. I see all of
these connections, and there's a lot of people who've gotten
a lot of jokes off. But this, to me is
a very sad situation. And it's weird because on one hand.
(16:57):
This is Sharon Moore's fault. He can't blame anybody else
for the predicament that he's in. And when you do
something wrong, you don't get to choose how the consequences
show up. That's first thing. Second thing is everybody is human.
So just because I might not make the same mistake
as Charon Moore or Ralph might not make the same
(17:20):
mistakes as Tim down the street, that doesn't mean that
one is necessarily worse than the other or anything.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Like like that.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
People do good people do bad things sometimes, and so
I'm not judging his like I'm not judging him in
terms of the way some other people are like.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
This dude's an idiot, And I just.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Know that people make bad choices. We don't know what's
going on in his marriage, We don't know what's going
on in his life, if he's if the reports that
he's really having mental health, that we don't know.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
But what I do know is.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Is that you're going to get fired if you do this,
and you're going to get fired if they already want
to find a way to get rid of you. But
they couldn't get rid of Sharon more this year if
they wanted to number one. Look at how many jobs
were open. There are some sanctions that have been handed down,
(18:18):
but nothing severely significant from the science dealing thing. You have,
Like the university was so patient with Jim Harbaugh that
if they don't exhibit some level of patients with a
dude who went eight and four once every single player
(18:39):
went to the NFL and the coaches and the coaching
staff got gutted everything else, and then turn nine and
three to next year, if they don't exercise some patience
with him, it is going to create a media firestorm
because then people are gonna say, oh, really, you didn't
get a black guy enough patience. Oh but you gave
Jim Harbaugh all the patients in the world. And I
(18:59):
think that that's part of the reason why why Michigan
they were like, Okay, we will give it another year
at least and see how this goes.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
He got them the number eleven recruiting class in the country.
Resources help, yep, but you got Bryce Underwood there. He
played decent enough as a true freshman. He's in the
process of bringing in support staff. You've got two five stars.
You got a really good quarterback committed already for the
twenty twenty seven class. I don't Here's what I don't like.
(19:33):
I don't like the prevailing theory that they knew and
the loss to Ohio State meant that then they had
to act.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
I don't like that because they're two and one. He's
two and one against Ohio State.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
That would that would be one time.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
I think it was the fact that the offense looks
so putrid and he's supposed to be an offensive guy
and the thing that they paid the most for and
Bryce Underwood didn't look.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Good, right, and you have one of his uh you know,
the people that used to help with that is coaching
high school now and probably never gonna get another college
football job. Another one is pending federal charges, and another
one is coaching the Chargers in the NFL Like it's
(20:25):
the responsibility solely falls on you. Heavy lies the crown.
I will judge a couple of things. I'm I'm with
you. You can't. Yeah, people make mistakes. Yeah, people go really
far down the road of making mistakes. Power corrupts all
of those things. I'm gonna judge following only fans creators
(20:47):
on your personal Instagram.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Oh, just get a burner, bro, Just get a burner. Yeah,
what are you doing?
Speaker 3 (20:54):
You are the head I know you said like, Yeah,
I'm not gonna call this guy dumb, YadA, YadA YadA.
That's dumb. They can't see the head coach in Michigan.
Your wife has a doctorate. You think she's stupid?
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Be smart? Yeah, that's well.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
I just think it's a bad look for recruiting. If
you gonna follow them, hop on your burner, FAM, you
can't just be just giving people the yellow brick brick
road to which So I guess let's go into the
who should be their next head coach?
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Because do you think Ward Manual gets to decide that?
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Oh, Ward Manual gotta be fired. He gotta be fired.
How can you keep him?
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Number one?
Speaker 2 (21:41):
He's had to fire I think two basketball coaches, he's
had multiple football scandals.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
You gotta go, FAM.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
You cannot be trusted to hire somebody who's trustworthy. That's
the issue. So Warp Warp Manual. He getting up out
of there. If I'm if I'm them, he gotta go.
And and I think they're still looking for a new
president too. This is not ideal. And they gotta get
(22:14):
a new coach in asap before there is a before
all the players hop into portal. This is nasty, This
is awful timing for Michigan. They may end up like
Penn State, where you damn near lose a whole class
worth of players.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Yeah, the question becomes, can we clean house without cleaning house?
That's the predicament they find themselves in. Can we clean
house me without cleaning house?
Speaker 1 (22:42):
How can they out cleaning house?
Speaker 3 (22:46):
You can go to each and every player on your
team and whatever agreement you have in place with them,
you can find a way to kick in an extra
six figures. But you gotta get you can't bring in
anybody related to Harbaugh. You probably gotta get rid of
the athletic director.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
You can bring in Jetfish though, because he wasn't around
for that.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
But what's Jetfish going to do? Jef Fish is going
to bring in two guys. Yeah, and he got a
lot of guys and so that that is cleaning house.
But then he's also got his players that he took
last time he left, he took all those people with him. So,
(23:26):
but what I'm saying is you you like your team.
I think Michigan fans love their team. They got a
couple of issues going on right now that are kind
of outside football, like Ernest Houseman's having some massive, very
publicly meant played out mental health issues. But for the
most part, the actual roster is something they're very proud
(23:49):
of and very excited about. I think saveon Hitter, the
running back or hider. Yeah, I don't don't put an
l in there. Every time I see his name written down,
I'm like, oh ye, the rest of new running back German.
But like I you know, they have all of these
(24:09):
great pieces and I'm sure they don't want to see
it all fall apart, but they do need to just
clean out that entire era. Thank you for the National championship,
but it's like it's genuinely time to move into a
new era of Michigan football. And we got to distance
ourselves from the repeated embarrassment because we lasted a really
(24:32):
really long time within us against the world mentality. But
it it has now crumbled from the inside. So you
don't have to admit that you regret having Harbaugh and
Stallions and Matt Weiss and you know, Alex you messaging
the little kids and all that stuff in your building.
(24:53):
You just got to move on and get other people
how do you do that and keep the team together.
I don't know. Do you bring in an in like
we've talked about this before.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
You cannot know. You cannot bring it an into room
and think that this is gonna work. You can't.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
You gotta have a head coach stable Ralph text just
came in, very reliable source. This source has never been
been wrong in any of the things I've ever said.
One two, three, four six words. Kaylin may be on
(25:29):
the move. Kaylin may be on the move. So anybody
who listens to the show today December eleventh, you know
(25:50):
that you heard it here first. But anyways, and it
did say may so I because I got a phone
call when we were on and I couldn't answer it,
and I and I hit him with the call you
back in a few I'm recording. His response was, Caylen
may be on the move. Like that's what the specific
(26:13):
phone call that this was not a chit chat phone call,
this was a.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
YO, I got something. I have an impossible name for you. Okay,
the probably the right man for the job, but it's
an impossible hire.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Marcus Freeman.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Man Mark's Freeman ain't going up there to Michigan, dude,
he is happy to get yes. Oh, speaking of that,
let's get to talking about Notre freaking Dame. So Marcus
Freeman is in where where's he? Where's he at now?
Turks and Caicos, Theo, the Bahamas, Cancun, wherever he's at
(26:55):
right now, out there just living his damn life. And
Notre Dame they bowed out of a bowl game. I
hate this and it's a flex at the same time.
But the backlash it is significant because that sweet heart
(27:16):
deal that Notre Dame has with the college football playoffs,
it didn't impact it this year.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
People would have gone crazy this year.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
So if Notre Dame is inside the top twelve, they go,
no matter what the other cutoff point is or anything,
they go. So they got the same sort of situation
like the G five guy. If it goes to fourteen
teams as long as they're in the top thirteen, it
goes sixteen as long as they're in the top fourteen.
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And people are now like whoa, whoa, whoa, we didn't
know that. And Notre Dame is also in a fight
with the ACC because they feel like, oh, you disrespected
us by promoting Miami, even though we're your booty call.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
I mean you're our booty call. We will use you
up for football.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
And yes, we got basketball and men's basketball, women's basketball
and all the other sports. Yeah we're we're a member
of the ACC. But our most prized possession, Oh, we're
not sharing with you when we pick up that twenty
thirty million dollars from the college football playoff. Do you
think we giveing a ACC at Dome? No, no, no, no,
no no. This is ours' what's yours is mine and
(28:34):
what's mine is mine. That's how Notre Dame operates. So
on one hand, it's a flex because they're saying, listen,
we don't play unless we're playing for championships.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Sure about that, you haven't played.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
You played for a championship in twenty twelve, but you
ain't won one since the eighties. So let's not get
on your high horse, Notre Dame about what you do
and don't play for you should and oh what excuse me?
And then last year they played for a championship. Two
But Ralph, I hate the missed opportunities for practice, those
(29:08):
fifteen practices for you young guys, for your incoming players.
But at the same time it's Notre Dame, they may
end up, you know, being hurt by not practicing these
practices when it comes next fall.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Yeah, I would like to expose the lie that Notre
Dame initially tried to hide behind, that the players voted
to not go to a bowl because what if they
hadn't said yes, do you still launch the same scorched
(29:48):
earth campaign. No, this was orchestrated. This entire thing was orchestrated.
You can't throw this level of a intrum unless you
make this level of a power play. They needed their
players to say no bowl game in order to do
what they're doing. Now. The athletic director is out here
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on a media tour being weird. He being legitimately weird.
There's some legitimate weirdness. We got to talk about the
fact that he's calling Marcus Freeman Brad Pitten saying he
deserves an NFL job. What does that have to do
with anything? What does it have to do with literally anything?
Like he's trying to be out like we everybody wants
(30:36):
what we got and some people do want you what
you have. They got twenty six commitments in this last
recruiting cycle without a single not a single one. They
got Larry Fitzgerald's kid going out there, They got the
young Nick Reddish like, they got a monster class that
they're putting together out in South Bend. And yeah, brag
(30:58):
on that, brag on on what your coach has been
able to accomplish, the same coach that lost to Miami
in Texas, A and m But brag on that. He
talked about their one of the greatest ten game runs
in the history of college football. Somebody crunched the numbers.
It wasn't even top two in twenty twenty five. But
he's coming out here, he's saying all these things. He's
crashing out on the ACC because they repeatedly played the
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Miami game over and over again on ACC Network. But
that's really up to ESPN, and ESPN actually is the
one that has the incentive to get Miami in over
Notre Dame. You know, it helps the ACC for sure,
but it would ultimately be better for the ACC if
Notre Dame was there as well. But if it's you
or me, it's got to be me, and no one
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should fault the ACC for having that perspective. But now
you have Brett Yormark of the Big twelve out here
kind of trying to brush Notre Dame back during the season, George,
we talked about it on this show, how wild it
was that you went and sat down with Dabo Swinney.
He had a little couple of extra things to say
about that we weren't expecting, about how they make their
own rules, they print their own cash. Then we had
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Joey MacGuire come out in the middle of the season
and get in the middle of a fight that what
what what is this? Yeah, and now we're starting to
hear rumblings that if Notre Dame tries to punish the ACC,
college football is going to assemble and freeze out Notre Dame.
(32:25):
We are in terms of scheduling. Yeah, and we are
officially experiencing World War One in college football, and the
access of evil is just South Bend, dude.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
This is We're entering Cold War territory for sure.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Because the SEC of Alabama had gotten left out, go
back to the off season, Paul fine Bomb laid down
a threat.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
It was a clear threat.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
That if the if the SEC doesn't get more playoff
spots because they only got three last year, where there's
gonna be a problem and the committee and the ap
Pole voters responded in kind.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
Yeah, they gave Alabama a different standard than they gave
anyone else.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
So Notre Dame, if they get frozen out, that would
change everything because they would only if teams refuse, if
they collude and refuse to to schedule them, they have
to join a conference. Now, mind you, I'm not the
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person that thinks that that Notre Dame should have to
join a conference because they're they're independent. But they do
need to figure out something for that thirteenth game. They
need to always have like a TBD against somebody who's
on the bubble for the playoff, a right, but because
you can't have them just gallivanting and just doing playing
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by a different set of rules than everybody else.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
So here's a true thing. Here's a true thing, though,
and I don't necessarily have any respect for anybody who
won't at least admit this. Notre Dame, if they were
in the College Football Playoff, would have a legitimate shot
to go to the championship. So you have to admit
that there are schools in the College Football Playoff that
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do not have a legitimate shot to go to the championship.
That's a gripe that they should have. It should be
directed not at the ACC, but perhaps at Greg Byrne
and Alabama and the SEC over a three loss team
that didn't drop after getting jack stumped in the conference
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championship and will loss to a five and seventeen Notre
Dame doesn't have a loss to a five and seven team.
They have four total points separating them from two college
football playoff teams. So like their gripe shouldn't be with
the ACC or the CALL. And they did get led on,
and I thought you did a great job illustrating that
(35:16):
on your live video on a Fraid show just a
couple of days ago. They did get led on, So
they have legitimate gripes. Who what advantage do you think
it is to go to battle with everyone when it's
already in place that you have a deal that you
get to get in. And also, how does that influence
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the College Football Playoff Committee from this point on? Because
if you're going to insult all these people, what incentive
do they have? What incentive does a college football playoff
have if you're on the cusp or of either twelve
or thirteen to make you twelve. If you've created an
enemy of everybody.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
You ain't lied about that one, buddy, You have not
lied about that one. All right out about this college
football playoff, Ralph, we gotta look at these paths because
we got number one. Indiana, two, Ohio State, Georgia, and
Texas Tech all have buys. Last year, the bys helped nobody, right.
(36:21):
The final was five six seven eight. I'm sorry, the
semifinals was five six seven eight. So, but also you
also didn't have conference champions. Like the conference champions were
the people in those spots, and this year the conference
champions are in those spots again except for Ohio State.
(36:44):
Do you believe that? Now I've talked to two coaches.
Neither one of them wanted to buy. One of them
doesn't have a buy, the other one does have a buy.
This year, neither one of them wanted to buy. They
wanted to go out and play because their team was
rusty when the buye started last year. So do you believe, Ralph,
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that Indiana, Ohio State, Georgia, and Texas Tech are at
a disadvantage by having to play at a neutral site,
which I think that they should be playing at home
to give them actual you know, something substantial for being
forgetting a buye or do you so? Do you believe
that they will be hindered or do you believe that
they're in good shape.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
I do think it's case by case. But I think
you made the most important point that what reward is
there to not have a home game? And at this point,
sixteen teams make so much more sense than twelve because
if the theme continues of the buy not being an advantage,
then you're going to have people argue against getting a
(37:54):
week off and a better seating. Yes, and what a
weird what a weird place to be in. I'll be like, no,
I don't want to be four. I want to be five.
That's a crazy that's a crazy thing. Like, So, I'm
just I can say that I think it's case by case.
A couple of these teams could use it. Uh, you know,
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Indiana's in a rhythm. I think Texas Tech, the physical
style that they play will probably give them maybe an
advantage to to take to take a week you know.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
But Georgia, because they're really to play, they don't play
New Year's Eve and New Year's Day, So.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
What are you gonna do? Take everybody's driver's license away
for a month.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
Oh oh my god.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
If you're Georgia, yeah, it's not even a joke at
this point. It's not even a joke. Ps. Ryan Silverfield
got an sec job and now has to play Georgia.
And back up the fact that he talked about every
nine minutes. Somebody, I just realized that Ryan Silverfield being
at Arkansas means he might have to go head to
(39:07):
head with Jimbo somethingime soon. But it's not even joke
at this point. I don't think time off is good
for Georgia certainly, No.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
No, because they were finding a rhythm.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
So yeah, in this bracket, who do you believe when's
the national championship? Well, this is a very hold up.
Let's go, who do you have in the Alabama Oklahoma game?
Speaker 3 (39:40):
Oklahoma okay, and then.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
Oregon? JMU, I gotta.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
Ask, Yeah, well, I think it'll be a tight first quarter.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
Oh old Miss versus two Le I like old Miss,
Miami versus Texas and HW Miami. I like all four
of those picks. So I'm with you there, We're chalk
right right right now, as far as you know, me
(40:19):
and you having the same picks. Indiana versus Oklahoma, and
mind you, Indiana daily is out.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
Daily is out. God that sucks and the way it
happens sucks. Did he really out for the season off
of high fiving?
Speaker 1 (40:35):
Yes? Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
He got hurt after the game slapping hands with with
fans that were above him and his knee buckled. So
he either hurt knee, ankle, calf, squad something in the late.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
So Indiana, I still.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
I still like. I like in Indiana in that game.
Speaker 2 (40:59):
I do because Indiana's defense is just as good as Oklahoma's.
Oklahoma's offense is putrid compared to Indiana's, which is really good.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
So I'm gonna take that. Uh Texas Tech versus Oregon.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
This is harder than it should be, don't you feel
like it. We've seen Dante more against some pretty good
pass rushes be okay, yeah, And so it really comes
down to Oregon pass pro for me, and that has
(41:37):
been a strength of the team over the Dan Lanning era.
I'm a little worried about your boy taking a job
elsewhere and maybe not being one hundred percent focused on
both sides of the ball. That can be tough, but
I'm gonna give the edge to Oregon, having seen Texas
Tech play a lot. Baron Morton is not my favorite quarterback,
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and I think Oregon's defense and their pass protection could
give them the edge.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
I believe that Texas Tech's offensive weapons on the outside
are not special, like that their wideouts are not special,
and that Oregon's gonna be able to stop them from
running the football. This game feels a lot like the
Indiana Oklahoma game to me, where Texas Tech doesn't have
enough offense to beat Oregon and both of the defenses
(42:28):
are good. Feels like a squeaker there to me. All right, Hey,
I have two questions. Where is that game being played?
It's in the Orange Bowl.
Speaker 3 (42:37):
Okay, so making sure it's not in New Orleans.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
Who do you think Tyler cotton Ball, which it would
be a home field game for Texas.
Speaker 3 (42:45):
Tech for sure. Who do you think Tyler Shuck is
rooting for?
Speaker 2 (42:50):
Oh, he's rooming for the Ducks. He just showed up there,
all right, Texas A and m Miami. Oh no, no, I'm sorry.
We we already got Miami through Miami. Ohio State.
Speaker 3 (43:05):
Carson Beck against Caleb Down's clear advantage Ohio State.
Speaker 2 (43:09):
Yes, oh, Carson Carson Beck is gonna throw four picks
in this game. There's no way that they beat Ohio
State absent. Even if Julian's saying got hurt, they might
not win. Georgia versus Old Miss, this is the one
I'm kind of torn on because Trinidad Chamberless. I don't
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think he's gonna wettest pants again in the fourth quarter
like he did against Georgia the first time. Because he
was he had never played in that sort of environment,
that sort of intense game.
Speaker 1 (43:41):
It went left for him. I also don't love Georgia's offense.
Speaker 2 (43:48):
They got Zachariah branch on screen routes and all of
that stuff, and they try to convert on some third
and longs.
Speaker 1 (43:54):
But Stockton will miss on you.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
Sometimes he'll throw some picks, and none of the other
receivers are a real threat. So part of me wants
to pick the upset in Old Miss. But Georgia's defense
is so good. But you know what effort, Oh Miss, to.
Speaker 3 (44:16):
Which I will say, we can't do everything the same.
We already looked the same, We already both have NFL background,
world renowned speaker, travel speaking of the military, everything about
us is the exact same. We got differentiate on something,
so I will pick Georgia.
Speaker 1 (44:34):
All right. Now we got Georgia versus Ohio State. Who
you taking.
Speaker 3 (44:43):
Georgia?
Speaker 1 (44:46):
I can see that I'm taking Ohio State.
Speaker 3 (44:49):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (44:51):
Now we got Indiana versus Oregon rematch from the game,
except for it's on the neutral field.
Speaker 1 (44:58):
Who you got?
Speaker 3 (45:02):
I'm team Fernando, buddy.
Speaker 1 (45:04):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (45:05):
We might have been the first national podcast to talk
about Fernando Mendoza. We we have. Is there anybody that
isn't just like native to Berkeley been on the Fernando
Mendoza train loads on us.
Speaker 2 (45:19):
No, no, his own head Berkeley wasn't, wasn't on it,
and Justin Wilcome all right, I gotta see it. He
wouldn't going to be the starter well that he was
gonna be in a quarter of a quarterback battle.
Speaker 1 (45:30):
He was like sight, is that real? Yes?
Speaker 3 (45:37):
Mann, that's real? Yes, Bro, Fernando oh Man. Good luck
to Tash Loupoy. I hope you win ten games a year.
I gotta see it through. I got it for for
the Pac twelve apostles. I gotta see it through. Well.
(45:58):
I guess Oregon's kind of damn got a whole roster
of pac Twelf's apostles adjacent players. But I do, I
do got to see it through with with Nando, our
Cuban prince. I would love to see him go to
a national championship. And if what you say is true,
(46:19):
I'm a root harder for him than ever before.
Speaker 1 (46:21):
Wrong, wrong on all accounts.
Speaker 2 (46:24):
So you got Indiana versus Georgia for the national championship.
I got Oregon versus Ohio State. Who are you taking?
I got the Ducks. This is the I played there
because I genuinely believe that they can beat this football team.
Speaker 3 (46:44):
And you've been waiting for that game. You've been waiting
since Dan Lanning's first ever game as a coach of Oregon.
You've wanted this.
Speaker 2 (46:58):
Well, either either away, either Oregon Ohio State or Oregon Georgia.
Speaker 1 (47:03):
Either way is a win for me. That's true, But
that George one would.
Speaker 3 (47:10):
Just I will. I will stick with you on which
side of the bracket comes out of it. So I'll
have Indiana and you take Oregon, and we'll just be
We'll be a left We'll be a lefty podcast.
Speaker 2 (47:24):
Indiana winning a national championship would would would throw everybody's
brain into a circus, it'd be like.
Speaker 1 (47:32):
Hold on, hold on, hold on, how the hell did
they win? They're not supposed to be able to win.
Speaker 3 (47:39):
But if you're if you're Michigan, do you look at
this college football playoff and do you make your coaching
search as messy as possible for everyone involved in this?
Do you go kick the tires on Dan Lanning? Do
you go kick the because you you could, you might
be the only school that can outbid Cody Campbell. Do
you go kick the tires on Joe Aguad even though
(48:00):
I don't think that would make sense because of where
he comes from. But do you poke at Kurt Signetti?
You have Kaitlin Demore right there now.
Speaker 1 (48:08):
I don't think Davies, his defensive coordinator, leaves.
Speaker 2 (48:12):
That would be nasty work, especially after your head coach
just got a massive raise if he didn't get you
where you need it to be.
Speaker 1 (48:21):
But we're also in.
Speaker 2 (48:25):
All for season in terms of because guys are declaring
for the draft and you have people, you know, schools
making their pitch. I know some schools that made their
pitch in the last you know, twenty four to seventy
two hours to some of these players, these quarterback numbers
are going to get insane.
Speaker 3 (48:47):
All right, you brought it up. I didn't want to
talk about it. What you brought it up? We got
Sam Levitt in the portal, we got a guy that
you said should be one of the number one portal targets,
and Colton Joe's in the portal. I do, I do
want to ask you what you think some of the
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numbers will be, because you're also the one who told me
the highest priced quarterback last year was actually on a
very incentive based deal. So it's essentially two years four
with the opportunity to be two years eight. That's Darien
Mensa at Duke. Is there a where do you think
the ceiling is for this year? And what do you
(49:30):
think guys like Levitt and Colt to Joseph because we're
talking about the duel threats, right, and then get you.
Speaker 2 (49:37):
Two three quarterbacks if they come come back, because remember
Fernando mint Mendoza, he can go back to but it's
gonna cost in the neighborhood of four and a half
million just from the collective plus you know, outside endorsement.
So we're talking for a Heisman caliber, Heisman contending caliber quarterback.
(49:59):
Neighbor hood of four to six million.
Speaker 3 (50:05):
So why I mean that could mean everybody comes out?
Speaker 1 (50:09):
What do you oh that? What do you what do
you mean everybody comes out that?
Speaker 3 (50:14):
At this point, we should just have a full quarterback
market where everybody, everybody goes in and make exactly able.
Speaker 1 (50:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (50:23):
Yeah, yeah, that might make a lot of sense.
Speaker 3 (50:27):
Who would you pay at You're clearly an Oregon fan,
I went to Arizona State. Who would you on somebody
else's team? Because everybody's available. Let's say Dante More goes pro?
Who would who would you say? You can have anybody?
Who would you want to bring to your team?
Speaker 1 (50:48):
Nico?
Speaker 3 (50:49):
Nico, Okay, I can't have everybody the one it is.
I'm probably in the one point five to two range,
so you you could probably have anybody. I could have
somebody who do you think is in the one point
five to two range that would actually keep Arizona State
(51:11):
competitive in the Big twelve? Is one point five too
much for a guy who was at Old Dominion?
Speaker 1 (51:17):
No, no, it's not. That is a move.
Speaker 2 (51:21):
If I'm Arizona State, I'm looking at mess the maker,
even though he may go with his head coach Eric
Morris to Oklahoma State. I'm looking yeah, I'm looking at yeah,
so I'm looking at him. And then that kid you
just said, Oh my gosh, I just for forgot his
name that quick.
Speaker 3 (51:39):
Colton Joseph.
Speaker 2 (51:41):
Yes, no, no, no, no, no, no, no no no, not not
a Colton, the one you just Oh my gosh, who'd
you just say?
Speaker 1 (51:49):
Right right before?
Speaker 3 (51:54):
Oh, out of I said, out of old dominion. That's
that's Colton Joseph. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (51:58):
And there's guys like about the kid from West Florida,
the kid that got in trouble coming out of out
of a high high school.
Speaker 1 (52:05):
That's what that's what I'm thinking about.
Speaker 3 (52:06):
The kid that like wrapped the N word and lost
yes scholarship then through for four thousand yards.
Speaker 1 (52:12):
Yeah, yeah, that kid.
Speaker 3 (52:18):
Well there's a and I man, I love the idea
of Austin Simmons.
Speaker 1 (52:24):
I'm not paying.
Speaker 3 (52:27):
You don't think so.
Speaker 2 (52:28):
No, I'm not paying him one point five million. He
did nothing to get that. I'll give about eight hundred thousand.
Speaker 3 (52:35):
So you wouldn't you. Somebody has to be proven in
order to get.
Speaker 2 (52:40):
Yes, because I might not even start Austin Simmons.
Speaker 1 (52:45):
That's fair, Like, that's not a guaranteed starter.
Speaker 2 (52:49):
I mean that's like guaranteeing Bryce Bryce I mean, I
mean Bryce Underwood, DJ Lagway a start.
Speaker 1 (52:55):
That would be craziness. He might take a pay cut
if he on my payroll.
Speaker 2 (53:00):
He ain't gonna like like that, but I'd be like, listen,
if you turn out to be the be the starter,
we will bump you back back up. Outside of that,
you and a QB competition pal.
Speaker 3 (53:10):
So you got something interesting because I like Austin Simmons
and you're saying the market's not gonna be crazy like
that for backups. But there's some high profile backups. George
us he's got one, yep.
Speaker 2 (53:23):
And there was some talk about USC's quarterback Hassan Longstreet
being on the move. So but you know, we'll get
to more of that later. And you guys, I'm George
reris Er, He's Ralph Amson. Make sure that you like, subscribe,
get notifications, tell a friend about the show.
Speaker 1 (53:41):
Peace out, Catch you guys later.
College Football Apostles.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
It's your boy George Rice with my main man, Ralph Amsden,
the rain Man himself, and yes, I understand there have
been some audio issues with a little bit of a reverb. However,
we're calling in the geek squad. We will get this
nailed down and figure it out because we know that
you guys love the show based upon how long you
(00:24):
watch it.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
So thank you guys for coming.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
We appreciate your time, Appreciate your energy because your times
the most valuable thing that you have. Appreciate your spending
it with us. Make sure that you like subscribe, get notifications,
and tell a friend about the show. We got to
talk about Sharon Moore at Michigan, we got to talk
about the college football Playoff, and we got to talk
about Notre Dame trolling everybody. So this is and kind
(00:49):
of the fallout because there are some people that just
learned that were a couple days old. Couple, I was
today years old a couple days ago when they learned
that Notre Dame was going to get an automatic birth
into the college football Playoff as long as they are
in the top twelve, no matter even if it's like
this year, we're to cut off is ten automatic birth
(01:13):
and if it expands to fourteen top thirteen expands the
sixteen top.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Fourteen, that is a sweetheart deal.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
And so we're going to talk about that, but we're
going to start with Charome Moore Michigan. And mind you,
there is a video that did yesterday on the channel
talking about what I believe is probably the wildest part
of this story is that the same burner account Ralph
(01:41):
that outed John matterears venmo account is the same account
that then posted on December first that Michigan was about
to fire Charome Moore for some sort of scandal and
and infidelity. And then you had a case of and
(02:05):
then other people jump jumped in like a former racist
Michigan quarterback who's been right about everything except for the
fact that he didn't like black people.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Current current racist former quarterback. Yes, current racist former quarterback.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Yes, But he was right about it. So sometimes you can't.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
You can't dismiss a message all the time because you
don't like the messenger, and the messenger you might not
like the messenger, but his but his information was accurate.
So apparently this was the worst kept secret in an
arbor and anybody that dared ask about it got shut down.
It was painted as a salacious, you know, internet message
(02:54):
board rumor, but it turned out that there was truth
to it, like they even had the two four seven
site inside was it inside.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Michigan or whatever it's called.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Buying into the fact that this was an elaborate hoax.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
And then there have been reports that.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Ward Manual and Michigan knew this for months and they
kept it quiet. And then the young lady the ladies
report is is that she then went to the athletic
department yesterday and gave him all the proof and said, yes,
we did it, and then they fired him. But the
(03:39):
newest thing, I don't know if you've seen seen this, Ralph,
is that apparently war Michigan was alerted that Sharon Moore
was dealing with mental health issues. He's smart right here,
He's smart here dealing with mental health issues. Yet athletic
director Ward Manual fired him alone, with no HR representative
(04:03):
and no security present accord for Nicole Arback. And this
is on the Yahoo Sports Twitter, Ralph. I have said
from jump, Sharon Moore's only option is to take the
nuclear option, which is either I'm a sex addict, I'm
on drugs, I'm having mental health issues.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Some work for Erbenmeyer. But so I what is the
wildest part of this story to you?
Speaker 3 (04:37):
The wildest part, Yes, I would say fresh off of
watching the same four part documentary that you watched, Oh
to Diddy, Yeah, that your that the information that can
do the most damage to you fell in the hands
(05:01):
of one of your greatest enemies. Because yeah, there was
a burner that posted pretty specific details on December first
and then took them down. And that burner was the
same one that posted the John matteer Venmo information. Yes,
but in the months leading up to that post, you
(05:23):
had a guy named Justin Spiro, who is a Michigan
State alum, dropping these sinister videos Darko News something, Darko
News Nation or something like that. Justin Spiro you had
him for months going on spaces and saying that that
(05:48):
Sharon Moore was about to get the Arkansas treatment. And
then you also had him posting these videos, these edited
videos of like mel Tucker with glowing eyes and Sharon
more in a neck brace, like Bobby Petrino, just repeatedly
alluding to the fact that a scandal was coming, and
he would tag Sharon more in all these tweets, just
(06:10):
pestering and pestering, and you tell people, wait till you
see what I have in store, Wait till you see
what I have in store, and you would just drop
all these hints. And it got to the point where
Michigan Insider and the guy who runs Michigan Insider had
to come out on their own internal threat and say
there's no truth to any of this. I guess the
(06:36):
most shocking part to me would be how the specifics
of this information ended up in the hands of somebody
who is so adversarial to University of Michigan for whatever reason,
who knows, and that it would just slow, tortuously slow
(06:57):
drip like this until it would break out. Curious what
the motivation would be to hold some of that information back,
to continue to hint at.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
It, because you can't like, it's just like this.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
So apparently the so what the reports are is that
Michigan investigated this over the summer and they couldn't substantiate
anything because Sharon wore and Page whatever her name is
said that they could that no, that it did not happen,
so absent you know, video evidence, they can't do anything
(07:34):
because they both said said no. Now, there are some
people that are confused because they're like, yo, how do
you get fired for cheating on your wife? Well, a
lot of these college coaches have morals clauses, and had
this happened outside of the building, he might have been fine.
But this happened inside the building, and that creates liability.
(07:59):
We've had all of these universities in Michigan State, Ohio State,
Michigan sued out the Yahoo for stuff that has happened
off the field by doctors and everything. So they are
going to be hot on anything that creates additional liability
or lawsuits. Now with that, I believe that Michigan was
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not happy with Sharon Moore either that if he had
been a coach that was a free agent available for
this hiring cycle or even just now, Ralph, how many
teams do you think called Sharon Moore and was like, Yo,
do you want to take this Auburn job?
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Do you want to take this Florida job? You want
to take this UCLA job?
Speaker 2 (08:47):
How many people do you think called him?
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Zero?
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Correct? We I mean we believe that that's correct.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
So if other people aren't checking for you, and when
you look at when he got the job. It didn't
feel like Ralph and and we were talking about this earlier.
It didn't feel like anybody else could could get the
job right.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Right right. It felt like it was it was gift
wrapped and hand it over. And there's a lot of
people that felt a certain type of way about that.
But no, it didn't feel like there was an open
process at all in handing the job off to Sharon Moore.
He's who filled in during Jim Harbaugh's suspension, and one
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of the great arguments against bringing him on is if
he's so good, why didn't Jim Harbaugh want to take
him with But obviously you're going to make more money
as head coach of Michigan than you would as an
offensive coordinator in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Yeah, But the other part is it feels like he
also because he was there for the whole Connor Stallion's things,
he deleted his text, he knew where the bodies were buried.
So now you get an opportunity because.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
He had been dirt on his hand. He was a
shovel bearer. George.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Yes, yes, he knew where the bodies were buried because
he dug some of the holes, and so Michigan was like,
all right, Jim, Jim Harball's gone all of these we
know that there's gonna be punishment coming down in scrutiny.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
We're not going to be in that.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
They're gonna be some of the top coaches that are
gonna say no to this job just because of they
don't know what's coming after. So let's hire Sharon More.
He did a good job when Jim Harball was out.
If we don't like it, it's at five and a
half to six million dollars a year.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
We can get rid of his ass quick. Yeah, I'm
just gonna be speculative here for a second. Well, I'm
gonna take it. We'll let's take this train of thought
as far as it will go. Okay, Sharon Moore was
part of the advanced scouting scandal. Yes, he deleted his
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texts and he lied to the NCAA. I only know
who Charon Moore is and this actually played out on
our show. So if you've been watching our show for
the last couple of years, you know, welcome back. Thank
you for being a loyal viewer. I found out who
Sharon Moore was because he gained a commitment from an
Arizona State offensive lineman two weeks before that lineman was
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even in the portal. And so what we joked on
this show about, not only is recruiting rampant in college football,
there's a dude who's under scrutiny in ann Arbor right
now doing it even though the world is collapsing around
him for other reasons. So they must feel super safe
because there is open recruiting going on prior to as
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people would call it tampering, and in my knowledge at
the time, it was coming from Sharon Moore, I said
on this show, watch this oligneman is going to go
to Michigan and they weren't even in the portal yet.
Now we have this situation where an ongoing affair that
has been admitted to and created the opportunity to fire
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Sharon Moore was investigated over the summer. And whatever an
investigation entails, I don't know. If it's bringing two people
into your room and they both say no and you
say like, all right bye, we know that that happened.
We have the TMZ phone call that came out that
said that that was being discussed to dispatch saying the
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complaint the complaint. He was saying, this is a person
that's been stalking me for months. Months would date back
to possibly the initial investigation. How do you stalk somebody
who you work with every day. Well, maybe you try
to keep your thumb on them and you try to
keep information in house even though guilt is eating them up.
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Rumors abound. Somehow you know it got out somewhere because
people like a former scholarship quarterback, a former roommate of
less miles at Michigan is posting your picture online a
week before you ever go into the office to admit
any of this stuff. And you have to wonder, did
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Michigan and Ward Manual, through their defense and war with
the NCAA, create and set a culture in which the
people who were still there believed the school would have
their back no matter what they do. Or is the
person em.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
A lot of people and I think six people on
Jim Harborough staff have ended up in handcuffs.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
This is true? This is true? Or is somebody who
was involved in with every single one of those people
who ended up in handcuffs, who was given the job
without a proper search. Are they in possession of enough
knowledge to grant them the type of impunity to behave
in a way that everyone on earth knows you should
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never do. The person that Sharon Moore spent the most
time with shared responsibility for calling the offense with is
under a federal investigation for breaking into thousands of college
female athlete social media accounts and stealing their personal information,
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their intimate personal photos. And that was your closest coworker.
You have proven that you are not actually an elite
effective offensive coordinator. Yet you march to the National Championship
with advanced scouting from one of the most obsessive fans
(14:57):
in the history of gaining employment in to a collegiate
atmosphere in Connor Stallions, and you delete your text with him,
you lie to the NC double A about it, and
then the reason that you give for deleting them is
that you are just so frustrated with how this young
man could.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Have been so help here individual.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
And then and then you carry the weight of a
lie of an affair when you were married to a
former college athlete who has a doctorate, you got three
beautiful daughters, and you carry that lie into the season,
and you make that person that you're having an affair
with feel as though you are threatening their physical well
being over the course of an entire college football season,
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and then you end up in jail with pending charges,
rumored to have broken into their house and brandished a weapon.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Do you realize how in one day.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
It right?
Speaker 4 (15:55):
But you and I have been around a bunch of
unstable people, and there are always bunches and bunches of signs.
Are you so defensive of a person who is engaged
in all these things that you're blind to it? Or
does that person have something on you? And that's that
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at this point is the thing that I'm most curious
about because no one, no Michigan fan I know, wanted
him to be their head coach, and they could jokingly say,
what does he have on this athletic director?
Speaker 3 (16:29):
And we know that there's something. We know that that's
not everything came out about what happened to Michigan.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
So I look at this Ralph and I'm and I
see Sharon Moore, I see Michigan. I see all of
these connections, and there's a lot of people who've gotten
a lot of jokes off. But this, to me is
a very sad situation. And it's weird because on one hand.
(16:57):
This is Sharon Moore's fault. He can't blame anybody else
for the predicament that he's in. And when you do
something wrong, you don't get to choose how the consequences
show up. That's first thing. Second thing is everybody is human.
So just because I might not make the same mistake
as Charon Moore or Ralph might not make the same
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mistakes as Tim down the street, that doesn't mean that
one is necessarily worse than the other or anything.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Like like that.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
People do good people do bad things sometimes, and so
I'm not judging his like I'm not judging him in
terms of the way some other people are like.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
This dude's an idiot, And I just.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Know that people make bad choices. We don't know what's
going on in his marriage, We don't know what's going
on in his life, if he's if the reports that
he's really having mental health, that we don't know.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
But what I do know is.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Is that you're going to get fired if you do this,
and you're going to get fired if they already want
to find a way to get rid of you. But
they couldn't get rid of Sharon more this year if
they wanted to number one. Look at how many jobs
were open. There are some sanctions that have been handed down,
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but nothing severely significant from the science dealing thing. You have,
Like the university was so patient with Jim Harbaugh that
if they don't exhibit some level of patients with a
dude who went eight and four once every single player
(18:39):
went to the NFL and the coaches and the coaching
staff got gutted everything else, and then turn nine and
three to next year, if they don't exercise some patience
with him, it is going to create a media firestorm
because then people are gonna say, oh, really, you didn't
get a black guy enough patience. Oh but you gave
Jim Harbaugh all the patients in the world. And I
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think that that's part of the reason why why Michigan
they were like, Okay, we will give it another year
at least and see how this goes.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
He got them the number eleven recruiting class in the country.
Resources help, yep, but you got Bryce Underwood there. He
played decent enough as a true freshman. He's in the
process of bringing in support staff. You've got two five stars.
You got a really good quarterback committed already for the
twenty twenty seven class. I don't Here's what I don't like.
(19:33):
I don't like the prevailing theory that they knew and
the loss to Ohio State meant that then they had
to act.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
I don't like that because they're two and one. He's
two and one against Ohio State.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
That would that would be one time.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
I think it was the fact that the offense looks
so putrid and he's supposed to be an offensive guy
and the thing that they paid the most for and
Bryce Underwood didn't look.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Good, right, and you have one of his uh you know,
the people that used to help with that is coaching
high school now and probably never gonna get another college
football job. Another one is pending federal charges, and another
one is coaching the Chargers in the NFL Like it's
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the responsibility solely falls on you. Heavy lies the crown.
I will judge a couple of things. I'm I'm with
you. You can't. Yeah, people make mistakes. Yeah, people go really
far down the road of making mistakes. Power corrupts all
of those things. I'm gonna judge following only fans creators
(20:47):
on your personal Instagram.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Oh, just get a burner, bro, Just get a burner. Yeah,
what are you doing?
Speaker 3 (20:54):
You are the head I know you said like, Yeah,
I'm not gonna call this guy dumb, YadA, YadA YadA.
That's dumb. They can't see the head coach in Michigan.
Your wife has a doctorate. You think she's stupid?
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Be smart? Yeah, that's well.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
I just think it's a bad look for recruiting. If
you gonna follow them, hop on your burner, FAM, you
can't just be just giving people the yellow brick brick
road to which So I guess let's go into the
who should be their next head coach?
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Because do you think Ward Manual gets to decide that?
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Oh, Ward Manual gotta be fired. He gotta be fired.
How can you keep him?
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Number one?
Speaker 2 (21:41):
He's had to fire I think two basketball coaches, he's
had multiple football scandals.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
You gotta go, FAM.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
You cannot be trusted to hire somebody who's trustworthy. That's
the issue. So Warp Warp Manual. He getting up out
of there. If I'm if I'm them, he gotta go.
And and I think they're still looking for a new
president too. This is not ideal. And they gotta get
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a new coach in asap before there is a before
all the players hop into portal. This is nasty, This
is awful timing for Michigan. They may end up like
Penn State, where you damn near lose a whole class
worth of players.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Yeah, the question becomes, can we clean house without cleaning house?
That's the predicament they find themselves in. Can we clean
house me without cleaning house?
Speaker 1 (22:42):
How can they out cleaning house?
Speaker 3 (22:46):
You can go to each and every player on your
team and whatever agreement you have in place with them,
you can find a way to kick in an extra
six figures. But you gotta get you can't bring in
anybody related to Harbaugh. You probably gotta get rid of
the athletic director.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
You can bring in Jetfish though, because he wasn't around
for that.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
But what's Jetfish going to do? Jef Fish is going
to bring in two guys. Yeah, and he got a
lot of guys and so that that is cleaning house.
But then he's also got his players that he took
last time he left, he took all those people with him. So,
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but what I'm saying is you you like your team.
I think Michigan fans love their team. They got a
couple of issues going on right now that are kind
of outside football, like Ernest Houseman's having some massive, very
publicly meant played out mental health issues. But for the
most part, the actual roster is something they're very proud
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of and very excited about. I think saveon Hitter, the
running back or hider. Yeah, I don't don't put an
l in there. Every time I see his name written down,
I'm like, oh ye, the rest of new running back German.
But like I you know, they have all of these
(24:09):
great pieces and I'm sure they don't want to see
it all fall apart, but they do need to just
clean out that entire era. Thank you for the National championship,
but it's like it's genuinely time to move into a
new era of Michigan football. And we got to distance
ourselves from the repeated embarrassment because we lasted a really
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really long time within us against the world mentality. But
it it has now crumbled from the inside. So you
don't have to admit that you regret having Harbaugh and
Stallions and Matt Weiss and you know, Alex you messaging
the little kids and all that stuff in your building.
(24:53):
You just got to move on and get other people
how do you do that and keep the team together.
I don't know. Do you bring in an in like
we've talked about this before.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
You cannot know. You cannot bring it an into room
and think that this is gonna work. You can't.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
You gotta have a head coach stable Ralph text just
came in, very reliable source. This source has never been
been wrong in any of the things I've ever said.
One two, three, four six words. Kaylin may be on
(25:29):
the move. Kaylin may be on the move. So anybody
who listens to the show today December eleventh, you know
(25:50):
that you heard it here first. But anyways, and it
did say may so I because I got a phone
call when we were on and I couldn't answer it,
and I and I hit him with the call you
back in a few I'm recording. His response was, Caylen
may be on the move. Like that's what the specific
(26:13):
phone call that this was not a chit chat phone call,
this was a.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
YO, I got something. I have an impossible name for you. Okay,
the probably the right man for the job, but it's
an impossible hire.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Marcus Freeman.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Man Mark's Freeman ain't going up there to Michigan, dude,
he is happy to get yes. Oh, speaking of that,
let's get to talking about Notre freaking Dame. So Marcus
Freeman is in where where's he? Where's he at now?
Turks and Caicos, Theo, the Bahamas, Cancun, wherever he's at
(26:55):
right now, out there just living his damn life. And
Notre Dame they bowed out of a bowl game. I
hate this and it's a flex at the same time.
But the backlash it is significant because that sweet heart
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deal that Notre Dame has with the college football playoffs,
it didn't impact it this year.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
People would have gone crazy this year.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
So if Notre Dame is inside the top twelve, they go,
no matter what the other cutoff point is or anything,
they go. So they got the same sort of situation
like the G five guy. If it goes to fourteen
teams as long as they're in the top thirteen, it
goes sixteen as long as they're in the top fourteen.
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And people are now like whoa, whoa, whoa, we didn't
know that. And Notre Dame is also in a fight
with the ACC because they feel like, oh, you disrespected
us by promoting Miami, even though we're your booty call.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
I mean you're our booty call. We will use you
up for football.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
And yes, we got basketball and men's basketball, women's basketball
and all the other sports. Yeah we're we're a member
of the ACC. But our most prized possession, Oh, we're
not sharing with you when we pick up that twenty
thirty million dollars from the college football playoff. Do you
think we giveing a ACC at Dome? No, no, no, no,
no no. This is ours' what's yours is mine and
(28:34):
what's mine is mine. That's how Notre Dame operates. So
on one hand, it's a flex because they're saying, listen,
we don't play unless we're playing for championships.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Sure about that, you haven't played.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
You played for a championship in twenty twelve, but you
ain't won one since the eighties. So let's not get
on your high horse, Notre Dame about what you do
and don't play for you should and oh what excuse me?
And then last year they played for a championship. Two
But Ralph, I hate the missed opportunities for practice, those
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fifteen practices for you young guys, for your incoming players.
But at the same time it's Notre Dame, they may
end up, you know, being hurt by not practicing these
practices when it comes next fall.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Yeah, I would like to expose the lie that Notre
Dame initially tried to hide behind, that the players voted
to not go to a bowl because what if they
hadn't said yes, do you still launch the same scorched
(29:48):
earth campaign. No, this was orchestrated. This entire thing was orchestrated.
You can't throw this level of a intrum unless you
make this level of a power play. They needed their
players to say no bowl game in order to do
what they're doing. Now. The athletic director is out here
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on a media tour being weird. He being legitimately weird.
There's some legitimate weirdness. We got to talk about the
fact that he's calling Marcus Freeman Brad Pitten saying he
deserves an NFL job. What does that have to do
with anything? What does it have to do with literally anything?
Like he's trying to be out like we everybody wants
(30:36):
what we got and some people do want you what
you have. They got twenty six commitments in this last
recruiting cycle without a single not a single one. They
got Larry Fitzgerald's kid going out there, They got the
young Nick Reddish like, they got a monster class that
they're putting together out in South Bend. And yeah, brag
(30:58):
on that, brag on on what your coach has been
able to accomplish, the same coach that lost to Miami
in Texas, A and m But brag on that. He
talked about their one of the greatest ten game runs
in the history of college football. Somebody crunched the numbers.
It wasn't even top two in twenty twenty five. But
he's coming out here, he's saying all these things. He's
crashing out on the ACC because they repeatedly played the
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Miami game over and over again on ACC Network. But
that's really up to ESPN, and ESPN actually is the
one that has the incentive to get Miami in over
Notre Dame. You know, it helps the ACC for sure,
but it would ultimately be better for the ACC if
Notre Dame was there as well. But if it's you
or me, it's got to be me, and no one
(31:42):
should fault the ACC for having that perspective. But now
you have Brett Yormark of the Big twelve out here
kind of trying to brush Notre Dame back during the season, George,
we talked about it on this show, how wild it
was that you went and sat down with Dabo Swinney.
He had a little couple of extra things to say
about that we weren't expecting, about how they make their
own rules, they print their own cash. Then we had
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Joey MacGuire come out in the middle of the season
and get in the middle of a fight that what
what what is this? Yeah, and now we're starting to
hear rumblings that if Notre Dame tries to punish the ACC,
college football is going to assemble and freeze out Notre Dame.
(32:25):
We are in terms of scheduling. Yeah, and we are
officially experiencing World War One in college football, and the
access of evil is just South Bend, dude.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
This is We're entering Cold War territory for sure.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Because the SEC of Alabama had gotten left out, go
back to the off season, Paul fine Bomb laid down
a threat.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
It was a clear threat.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
That if the if the SEC doesn't get more playoff
spots because they only got three last year, where there's
gonna be a problem and the committee and the ap
Pole voters responded in kind.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
Yeah, they gave Alabama a different standard than they gave
anyone else.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
So Notre Dame, if they get frozen out, that would
change everything because they would only if teams refuse, if
they collude and refuse to to schedule them, they have
to join a conference. Now, mind you, I'm not the
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person that thinks that that Notre Dame should have to
join a conference because they're they're independent. But they do
need to figure out something for that thirteenth game. They
need to always have like a TBD against somebody who's
on the bubble for the playoff, a right, but because
you can't have them just gallivanting and just doing playing
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by a different set of rules than everybody else.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
So here's a true thing. Here's a true thing, though,
and I don't necessarily have any respect for anybody who
won't at least admit this. Notre Dame, if they were
in the College Football Playoff, would have a legitimate shot
to go to the championship. So you have to admit
that there are schools in the College Football Playoff that
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do not have a legitimate shot to go to the championship.
That's a gripe that they should have. It should be
directed not at the ACC, but perhaps at Greg Byrne
and Alabama and the SEC over a three loss team
that didn't drop after getting jack stumped in the conference
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championship and will loss to a five and seventeen Notre
Dame doesn't have a loss to a five and seven team.
They have four total points separating them from two college
football playoff teams. So like their gripe shouldn't be with
the ACC or the CALL. And they did get led on,
and I thought you did a great job illustrating that
(35:16):
on your live video on a Fraid show just a
couple of days ago. They did get led on, So
they have legitimate gripes. Who what advantage do you think
it is to go to battle with everyone when it's
already in place that you have a deal that you
get to get in. And also, how does that influence
(35:38):
the College Football Playoff Committee from this point on? Because
if you're going to insult all these people, what incentive
do they have? What incentive does a college football playoff
have if you're on the cusp or of either twelve
or thirteen to make you twelve. If you've created an
enemy of everybody.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
You ain't lied about that one, buddy, You have not
lied about that one. All right out about this college
football playoff, Ralph, we gotta look at these paths because
we got number one. Indiana, two, Ohio State, Georgia, and
Texas Tech all have buys. Last year, the bys helped nobody, right.
(36:21):
The final was five six seven eight. I'm sorry, the
semifinals was five six seven eight. So, but also you
also didn't have conference champions. Like the conference champions were
the people in those spots, and this year the conference
champions are in those spots again except for Ohio State.
(36:44):
Do you believe that? Now I've talked to two coaches.
Neither one of them wanted to buy. One of them
doesn't have a buy, the other one does have a buy.
This year, neither one of them wanted to buy. They
wanted to go out and play because their team was
rusty when the buye started last year. So do you believe, Ralph,
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that Indiana, Ohio State, Georgia, and Texas Tech are at
a disadvantage by having to play at a neutral site,
which I think that they should be playing at home
to give them actual you know, something substantial for being
forgetting a buye or do you so? Do you believe
that they will be hindered or do you believe that
they're in good shape.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
I do think it's case by case. But I think
you made the most important point that what reward is
there to not have a home game? And at this point,
sixteen teams make so much more sense than twelve because
if the theme continues of the buy not being an advantage,
then you're going to have people argue against getting a
(37:54):
week off and a better seating. Yes, and what a
weird what a weird place to be in. I'll be like, no,
I don't want to be four. I want to be five.
That's a crazy that's a crazy thing. Like, So, I'm
just I can say that I think it's case by case.
A couple of these teams could use it. Uh, you know,
(38:19):
Indiana's in a rhythm. I think Texas Tech, the physical
style that they play will probably give them maybe an
advantage to to take to take a week you know.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
But Georgia, because they're really to play, they don't play
New Year's Eve and New Year's Day, So.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
What are you gonna do? Take everybody's driver's license away
for a month.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
Oh oh my god.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
If you're Georgia, yeah, it's not even a joke at
this point. It's not even a joke. Ps. Ryan Silverfield
got an sec job and now has to play Georgia.
And back up the fact that he talked about every
nine minutes. Somebody, I just realized that Ryan Silverfield being
at Arkansas means he might have to go head to
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head with Jimbo somethingime soon. But it's not even joke
at this point. I don't think time off is good
for Georgia certainly, No.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
No, because they were finding a rhythm.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
So yeah, in this bracket, who do you believe when's
the national championship? Well, this is a very hold up.
Let's go, who do you have in the Alabama Oklahoma game?
Speaker 3 (39:40):
Oklahoma okay, and then.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
Oregon? JMU, I gotta.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
Ask, Yeah, well, I think it'll be a tight first quarter.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
Oh old Miss versus two Le I like old Miss,
Miami versus Texas and HW Miami. I like all four
of those picks. So I'm with you there, We're chalk
right right right now, as far as you know, me
(40:19):
and you having the same picks. Indiana versus Oklahoma, and
mind you, Indiana daily is out.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
Daily is out. God that sucks and the way it
happens sucks. Did he really out for the season off
of high fiving?
Speaker 1 (40:35):
Yes? Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
He got hurt after the game slapping hands with with
fans that were above him and his knee buckled. So
he either hurt knee, ankle, calf, squad something in the late.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
So Indiana, I still.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
I still like. I like in Indiana in that game.
Speaker 2 (40:59):
I do because Indiana's defense is just as good as Oklahoma's.
Oklahoma's offense is putrid compared to Indiana's, which is really good.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
So I'm gonna take that. Uh Texas Tech versus Oregon.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
This is harder than it should be, don't you feel
like it. We've seen Dante more against some pretty good
pass rushes be okay, yeah, And so it really comes
down to Oregon pass pro for me, and that has
(41:37):
been a strength of the team over the Dan Lanning era.
I'm a little worried about your boy taking a job
elsewhere and maybe not being one hundred percent focused on
both sides of the ball. That can be tough, but
I'm gonna give the edge to Oregon, having seen Texas
Tech play a lot. Baron Morton is not my favorite quarterback,
(42:01):
and I think Oregon's defense and their pass protection could
give them the edge.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
I believe that Texas Tech's offensive weapons on the outside
are not special, like that their wideouts are not special,
and that Oregon's gonna be able to stop them from
running the football. This game feels a lot like the
Indiana Oklahoma game to me, where Texas Tech doesn't have
enough offense to beat Oregon and both of the defenses
(42:28):
are good. Feels like a squeaker there to me. All right, Hey,
I have two questions. Where is that game being played?
It's in the Orange Bowl.
Speaker 3 (42:37):
Okay, so making sure it's not in New Orleans.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
Who do you think Tyler cotton Ball, which it would
be a home field game for Texas.
Speaker 3 (42:45):
Tech for sure. Who do you think Tyler Shuck is
rooting for?
Speaker 2 (42:50):
Oh, he's rooming for the Ducks. He just showed up there,
all right, Texas A and m Miami. Oh no, no, I'm sorry.
We we already got Miami through Miami. Ohio State.
Speaker 3 (43:05):
Carson Beck against Caleb Down's clear advantage Ohio State.
Speaker 2 (43:09):
Yes, oh, Carson Carson Beck is gonna throw four picks
in this game. There's no way that they beat Ohio
State absent. Even if Julian's saying got hurt, they might
not win. Georgia versus Old Miss, this is the one
I'm kind of torn on because Trinidad Chamberless. I don't
(43:30):
think he's gonna wettest pants again in the fourth quarter
like he did against Georgia the first time. Because he
was he had never played in that sort of environment,
that sort of intense game.
Speaker 1 (43:41):
It went left for him. I also don't love Georgia's offense.
Speaker 2 (43:48):
They got Zachariah branch on screen routes and all of
that stuff, and they try to convert on some third
and longs.
Speaker 1 (43:54):
But Stockton will miss on you.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
Sometimes he'll throw some picks, and none of the other
receivers are a real threat. So part of me wants
to pick the upset in Old Miss. But Georgia's defense
is so good. But you know what effort, Oh Miss, to.
Speaker 3 (44:16):
Which I will say, we can't do everything the same.
We already looked the same, We already both have NFL background,
world renowned speaker, travel speaking of the military, everything about
us is the exact same. We got differentiate on something,
so I will pick Georgia.
Speaker 1 (44:34):
All right. Now we got Georgia versus Ohio State. Who
you taking.
Speaker 3 (44:43):
Georgia?
Speaker 1 (44:46):
I can see that I'm taking Ohio State.
Speaker 3 (44:49):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (44:51):
Now we got Indiana versus Oregon rematch from the game,
except for it's on the neutral field.
Speaker 1 (44:58):
Who you got?
Speaker 3 (45:02):
I'm team Fernando, buddy.
Speaker 1 (45:04):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (45:05):
We might have been the first national podcast to talk
about Fernando Mendoza. We we have. Is there anybody that
isn't just like native to Berkeley been on the Fernando
Mendoza train loads on us.
Speaker 2 (45:19):
No, no, his own head Berkeley wasn't, wasn't on it,
and Justin Wilcome all right, I gotta see it. He
wouldn't going to be the starter well that he was
gonna be in a quarter of a quarterback battle.
Speaker 1 (45:30):
He was like sight, is that real? Yes?
Speaker 3 (45:37):
Mann, that's real? Yes, Bro, Fernando oh Man. Good luck
to Tash Loupoy. I hope you win ten games a year.
I gotta see it through. I got it for for
the Pac twelve apostles. I gotta see it through. Well.
(45:58):
I guess Oregon's kind of damn got a whole roster
of pac Twelf's apostles adjacent players. But I do, I
do got to see it through with with Nando, our
Cuban prince. I would love to see him go to
a national championship. And if what you say is true,
(46:19):
I'm a root harder for him than ever before.
Speaker 1 (46:21):
Wrong, wrong on all accounts.
Speaker 2 (46:24):
So you got Indiana versus Georgia for the national championship.
I got Oregon versus Ohio State. Who are you taking?
I got the Ducks. This is the I played there
because I genuinely believe that they can beat this football team.
Speaker 3 (46:44):
And you've been waiting for that game. You've been waiting
since Dan Lanning's first ever game as a coach of Oregon.
You've wanted this.
Speaker 2 (46:58):
Well, either either away, either Oregon Ohio State or Oregon Georgia.
Speaker 1 (47:03):
Either way is a win for me. That's true, But
that George one would.
Speaker 3 (47:10):
Just I will. I will stick with you on which
side of the bracket comes out of it. So I'll
have Indiana and you take Oregon, and we'll just be
We'll be a left We'll be a lefty podcast.
Speaker 2 (47:24):
Indiana winning a national championship would would would throw everybody's
brain into a circus, it'd be like.
Speaker 1 (47:32):
Hold on, hold on, hold on, how the hell did
they win? They're not supposed to be able to win.
Speaker 3 (47:39):
But if you're if you're Michigan, do you look at
this college football playoff and do you make your coaching
search as messy as possible for everyone involved in this?
Do you go kick the tires on Dan Lanning? Do
you go kick the because you you could, you might
be the only school that can outbid Cody Campbell. Do
you go kick the tires on Joe Aguad even though
(48:00):
I don't think that would make sense because of where
he comes from. But do you poke at Kurt Signetti?
You have Kaitlin Demore right there now.
Speaker 1 (48:08):
I don't think Davies, his defensive coordinator, leaves.
Speaker 2 (48:12):
That would be nasty work, especially after your head coach
just got a massive raise if he didn't get you
where you need it to be.
Speaker 1 (48:21):
But we're also in.
Speaker 2 (48:25):
All for season in terms of because guys are declaring
for the draft and you have people, you know, schools
making their pitch. I know some schools that made their
pitch in the last you know, twenty four to seventy
two hours to some of these players, these quarterback numbers
are going to get insane.
Speaker 3 (48:47):
All right, you brought it up. I didn't want to
talk about it. What you brought it up? We got
Sam Levitt in the portal, we got a guy that
you said should be one of the number one portal targets,
and Colton Joe's in the portal. I do, I do
want to ask you what you think some of the
(49:07):
numbers will be, because you're also the one who told me
the highest priced quarterback last year was actually on a
very incentive based deal. So it's essentially two years four
with the opportunity to be two years eight. That's Darien
Mensa at Duke. Is there a where do you think
the ceiling is for this year? And what do you
(49:30):
think guys like Levitt and Colt to Joseph because we're
talking about the duel threats, right, and then get you.
Speaker 2 (49:37):
Two three quarterbacks if they come come back, because remember
Fernando mint Mendoza, he can go back to but it's
gonna cost in the neighborhood of four and a half
million just from the collective plus you know, outside endorsement.
So we're talking for a Heisman caliber, Heisman contending caliber quarterback.
(49:59):
Neighbor hood of four to six million.
Speaker 3 (50:05):
So why I mean that could mean everybody comes out?
Speaker 1 (50:09):
What do you oh that? What do you what do
you mean everybody comes out that?
Speaker 3 (50:14):
At this point, we should just have a full quarterback
market where everybody, everybody goes in and make exactly able.
Speaker 1 (50:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (50:23):
Yeah, yeah, that might make a lot of sense.
Speaker 3 (50:27):
Who would you pay at You're clearly an Oregon fan,
I went to Arizona State. Who would you on somebody
else's team? Because everybody's available. Let's say Dante More goes pro?
Who would who would you say? You can have anybody?
Who would you want to bring to your team?
Speaker 1 (50:48):
Nico?
Speaker 3 (50:49):
Nico, Okay, I can't have everybody the one it is.
I'm probably in the one point five to two range,
so you you could probably have anybody. I could have
somebody who do you think is in the one point
five to two range that would actually keep Arizona State
(51:11):
competitive in the Big twelve? Is one point five too
much for a guy who was at Old Dominion?
Speaker 1 (51:17):
No, no, it's not. That is a move.
Speaker 2 (51:21):
If I'm Arizona State, I'm looking at mess the maker,
even though he may go with his head coach Eric
Morris to Oklahoma State. I'm looking yeah, I'm looking at yeah,
so I'm looking at him. And then that kid you
just said, Oh my gosh, I just for forgot his
name that quick.
Speaker 3 (51:39):
Colton Joseph.
Speaker 2 (51:41):
Yes, no, no, no, no, no, no, no no no, not not
a Colton, the one you just Oh my gosh, who'd
you just say?
Speaker 1 (51:49):
Right right before?
Speaker 3 (51:54):
Oh, out of I said, out of old dominion. That's
that's Colton Joseph. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (51:58):
And there's guys like about the kid from West Florida,
the kid that got in trouble coming out of out
of a high high school.
Speaker 1 (52:05):
That's what that's what I'm thinking about.
Speaker 3 (52:06):
The kid that like wrapped the N word and lost
yes scholarship then through for four thousand yards.
Speaker 1 (52:12):
Yeah, yeah, that kid.
Speaker 3 (52:18):
Well there's a and I man, I love the idea
of Austin Simmons.
Speaker 1 (52:24):
I'm not paying.
Speaker 3 (52:27):
You don't think so.
Speaker 2 (52:28):
No, I'm not paying him one point five million. He
did nothing to get that. I'll give about eight hundred thousand.
Speaker 3 (52:35):
So you wouldn't you. Somebody has to be proven in
order to get.
Speaker 2 (52:40):
Yes, because I might not even start Austin Simmons.
Speaker 1 (52:45):
That's fair, Like, that's not a guaranteed starter.
Speaker 2 (52:49):
I mean that's like guaranteeing Bryce Bryce I mean, I
mean Bryce Underwood, DJ Lagway a start.
Speaker 1 (52:55):
That would be craziness. He might take a pay cut
if he on my payroll.
Speaker 2 (53:00):
He ain't gonna like like that, but I'd be like, listen,
if you turn out to be the be the starter,
we will bump you back back up. Outside of that,
you and a QB competition pal.
Speaker 3 (53:10):
So you got something interesting because I like Austin Simmons
and you're saying the market's not gonna be crazy like
that for backups. But there's some high profile backups. George
us he's got one, yep.
Speaker 2 (53:23):
And there was some talk about USC's quarterback Hassan Longstreet
being on the move. So but you know, we'll get
to more of that later. And you guys, I'm George
reris Er, He's Ralph Amson. Make sure that you like, subscribe,
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Speaker 1 (53:41):
Peace out, Catch you guys later.
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