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January 16, 2025 • 53 mins

On this episode of the College Football Apostles, George Wrighster and Ralph Amsden talk about Quinn Ewers' decision to declare for the NFL Draft instead of take a reported $8 million dollar payday to transfer away from Texas to another school. The guys also talk about the Arch Manning hype, and whether it's even possible to live up to the level of expectation that his last name and recruiting ranking bring.
The guys also talk about the Deion Sanders rumors- could Coach Prime really leave Colorado to coach the Dallas Cowboys?
George and Ralph also explain why they're rooting for Notre Dame in the upcoming National Championship against Ohio State. 

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
I'm George Reister.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
He's Ralph Anderson, and this is college Football Apostles.

Speaker 1 (00:07):
We got a lot to talk about today.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Because Quinn eers was offered eight million dollars to stay
in college football and he went in the draft.

Speaker 1 (00:16):
Okay, yeah right?

Speaker 2 (00:18):
And Archie Manning can he actually live up to the
hype at the University of Texas? And Dion Sanders is
supposedly possibly taking the Dallas Cowboys job. What does that
mean for Colorado? What does it mean for the Cowboys?
And Ohio State versus Notre Dame National championship. We got

(00:41):
to talk about that and the rumors about Bill Belichick's contract.
George Reister, He's Ralph, and make sure you hop into
comments like subscribe, get notifications as share. All right, so
we're gonna start with Ralph. There was an article that
came out, and I want to make sure I'm quoting

(01:02):
the person. So this is by Chip Brown over at
Horns two four seven. Here is the title of the article.
Sources Texas quarterback Quinn Ewers turned down eight million dollar
nil transfer offer in deciding to enter twenty twenty five
NFL draft.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
When I first.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
Read that, I was like, Okay, I'm not going to
be a prisoner of the of the of the headline. Right,
let me go into the article to sum up the article.
He they said he made roughly around six million dollars
last year.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
Right, Oh no, no, no, no, sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
Over the last three years he's earned about six million
dollars since he's been in Austin, Okay, which is a
lot of money. And they said he's projected in between
a late first round and a third round pick. Now,
I have not heard any first round projections on him.
I've asked multiple skis and these dudes are usually right.
And the bottom of the first round thirteen million dollars

(02:07):
guaranteed fully like all of that top of the third round.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
Six point four total over the life of the four
year deal. So I'm like.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
And supposedly, according to Riley Dodge, his high school coach,
Texas was the only place he wanted to play college
football and he wanted to leave Texas in good standing.
So you mean to tell me this dude turned down
eight million dollars, The same guy that went to Ohio
State for thirty minutes to pick up one point four
million dollars. That same guy turned down eight million dollars

(02:41):
when he's not going to be a first round pick
and he's still a junior, got a year eligibility left.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
Make it make sense, Ralph.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
Well, I can't because of math. The numbers are the numbers.
It doesn't make financial sense. If it really is putting
a price tag on your love for the University of Texas,
then maybe maybe he does go down as a legend.
And I think a lot of that's going to depend

(03:13):
on how Arch Maning leks. We'll get into that in
a little bit.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
So how do you like since so, Ralph, if if
this dude loves Texas so much and and but Texas
don't love him back like that? They want arch Manning
to be their starting quarterback next year. Everybody wants Art
Quinn was going to be done no matter what arch
was starting. So so you're gonna be this noble It

(03:37):
turned down this type of money to somebody who ain't
even gonna have you back as their starter anyway. Come on, man,
get get the hell out of here, get the entire
hell o.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
Hey, hold on now, hold on. Now, that's that parental love,
that's that Christian sacrificial love, that's that uncal live. This
is you're pushing aside some of the highest esteemed values
of humanity that you don't have to be dependent upon

(04:10):
how somebody else feels about you in order to treat
them the way that you want to treat them. Maybe
quin Ewers is a saint Saint Ewers.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
Maybe, So who's offering eight million dollars? That's the part
I can't figure out. Let's say Miami, who notoriously will
overpay to get what they want. If they paid Carson
back four million dollars, who's.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
Paying eight.

Speaker 3 (04:38):
Yeah, that's true. I like that you said that about Miami,
Like the people who brought us the cocaine markup.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
I mean, I just don't like.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
Who are some teams that you think that their boosters
would pony up eight million dollars for? And I know
that people are gonna sit here and tell you, oh my,
it was Oregon. I can stand in the paint and
tell you with every ounce of my body it was
never Oregon.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
It's not Oregon.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
Oregon is completely happy with their quarterback room right now.
They have Dante More and Nova Sad in there.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
There.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
At the point in time that Nova Sad decided to stay,
there was no even potential for a portal quarterback. None,
like people have no idea. How happy and please like,
there is more excitement in you, Gene about Dante more
than whatever the hell Texas has about arch I'm letting

(05:42):
you know that right now, he's not on any of
the lists in terms of uh, the the quarterbacks that
are gonna win the Heisman next year and all of this.
But you will be completely flabbergat, Nigga, be like where
did this come from? Every everybody, Eugenie know it's the
best kept secret. Like when Marcus Mariota was going to

(06:05):
be the starter the year after Darren Thomas took the
team to the National championship or it was either the
National Championship or the Rose Bowl. Oh no, no, no,
it was actually the National Championship because it was in Phoenix.
Because I was talking to Chip Kelly and I was
talking to the running backs coach Gary Campbell, and I
was like, oh man.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
We're gonna be good again next year with Darren coming back.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
There was like slow down, buddy, Uh, Darren's not gonna
be our quarterback next year. I was like, what They're like,
we got this kid, Marcus Mariota. I was like come on, man,
you can't put the dude that took you to the
national championship and play well on the bench.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
They were like, you'll see.

Speaker 3 (06:44):
All right, So I gotta play reister translator here for
everybody who thinks that you just went insane. So here's
the deal. There definitely is not if we're just going
pound for pound. There definitely is not the same level
of excitement for arch Manning as there is for Dante Moore,
because the arch Manning hype is four years deep and

(07:07):
it's highly irrational. What you're talking about is the difference
between muscle and fat, right, Like you believe that you
have a rational level of excitement for Dante Moore to
step in and continue to do what bon Nix and
Dylan Gabriel have done under Dan Lanning, And you believe,

(07:27):
or I certainly believe, that the hype around arch Manning
is irrational. Like most people excited about the backup quarter
because backup quarterback is always the most popular guy in
the whole fandom, right because it's it's an it's an
unknown unknown and maybe door number two is an even

(07:49):
better door number one. Right, So Hi, personally, I am
not an arch Manning believer, more of a doubting Thomas type.
Got to see it to believe it in a lot
of circumstances. And the way I feel about arch Manning
in Texas is the stakes were very high the last
couple of years, and if he was the better player,

(08:10):
he would have been on the field. It wouldn't have
been like a just hold on, hold on. You think
the University of Texas runs on sentiment? I doubt that
very very much. I think that arch Manning, who who
looks good like much like Dylan Ryola. I'm not comparing
him to Dylan Rylan, but much like Dylan Royola looks

(08:32):
great in practice. He's athletic. He tore up some not
so great competition in high school. Ryola didn't do that,
but like tore up some not so great competition in
high school. He's smart, he got a good arm and
all that stuff. But if he was the better quarterback,
he probably would have been out there instead of just
bringing him in to run some Ashton Daniels justin Lambson

(08:53):
like QB run back. You're telling me, you're telling me
that you're gonna go out there and you're gonna risk
the future and the gold an arm telling him to
rush around the edge. Okay, okay against SEC opponents. So
I just wanted to throw that out there for people
who are like, oh, George Reister is insane saying that
Oregon fans are more excited than Texas fans, because they

(09:14):
definitely aren't if you're just saying, like a mount. But
what I want to let people know is you're saying
that like, Oregon fans have a rational expectation of what
they feel is going to happen next ye, not that
he not that he should have been on the field
instead of Dylan Gabriel.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
Correct correct one.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
Yes, yes, I'm glad you put that through the Reister
Translator field guide. Okay, So now to go back to
what you just said, Rao, I do not believe. So
I am a little bit more of an arch manning believer.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
Than you are.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
Okay, Now, to do what he can because he came
in and he played well this year, okay, okay. And
and remember they got in that Joy game.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
That was the moment that they were going to switch quarterbacks.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
They were going to switch quarterbacks in that Georgia game
when they brought uh Arch in, but when he couldn't
get the thing going. They were like, never mind, well
we'll stick with We'll stick with Quid so I. I. So,
on one hand, there is rational expectation for him being
a good quarterback because he's come out and he has

(10:28):
played played well. Okay, can we can we agree with that?

Speaker 3 (10:33):
I guess his So his his his stats this year
against SEC teams with a winning record, six of twelve,
no touchdowns, no interceptions, negative one yard rushing. Uh I lied,
I lied. He had fourteen yards rushing against Texas A
and M on the road. He is definitely definitely the

(10:55):
next cam Ward for sure.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
Okay. So so here here's the thing. I do not believe.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
I do not believe that this is gonna be a
Jackson Arnold following Dylan Gabriel situation at Oklahoma. Okay, Like
I don't but believe that Archie is gonna go out
there and just and for it. And I'm not knocking
the Arnold kid because he made because he just transferred out.
He may turn out to have a really great career there.

(11:26):
But you could have the bottom, the literal bottom of
quarterback play fell out, you know what I mean, The
bottom fell out to where And but I do feel
like it's irrational.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
Some of the hype around Arch.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
Though, where they're like he's a surefire number one pick
after next year, it's and and there are a lot
of people that even questioned why Arch was still at Texas.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
I'll question it right now.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
What right?

Speaker 3 (12:01):
Two things. If he is the future of quarterbacking, he
would have been on the field. And if he's the
killer that everybody says he is, he would have left
instead of spending two years on the bench.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
Ralph, I completely disagree with that.

Speaker 3 (12:18):
How it's maybe a maybe the University of Texas is
Helen of Troy and everyone's just in love. Quinn Ewers
did Queen Ears didn't want to have his Texas gotta
sat down and had a conversation Matthew McConaughey. Matthew McConaughey
got in his head, say you'll be a legend forever.
Don't go put any other school color on again, because

(12:39):
he obviously went to Ohio State and came back. Don't
put any other school color on. Will take care of
you for life.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
Maybe he got in him to too.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
What if they're paying quinn Ewers not to transfer like so, so.

Speaker 3 (12:52):
They gave him a parting gift.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
Yeah, what if? What if? What if?

Speaker 2 (12:58):
They're saying, Quinn, we love you, Arch is our next guy.
You got to go to the league. Yes, you did
get an eight million dollar offer. You're gonna be at
the worst of third round pick. Let's give you two
million dollars to just go go on your way to
bridge the gap a little bit.

Speaker 3 (13:21):
Wow, like the reverse bag man.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
Huh that you like a hooker, Like I'm paying you
to leave.

Speaker 3 (13:32):
You to leave? Oh my gosh. Okay, So that's an
interesting way to look at it. But I gotta tell
you if because the programs that would have had the
money to bring him in, you know in Alabama, you know,
maybe Kaitlyn Devor is like, hey, I might not have
this job anyway after next year, Like we might as

(13:54):
well throw everything at the wall. There's notre Notre dame
is to develop the reputation of you know, going and
getting who they think the best quarterback will be. Mostly
out of the state of North Carolina. You have Georgia,
I guess, in kind of a weird situation where they
just lost Carson Beck. You know, there's some teams out
here with a little bit of money, but they all
have that like prestige. If he's really like a Tim

(14:16):
Riggans type like Texas Forever, then maybe maybe that would
make it a little bit easier on him. But that
we have no evident.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
Understand him staying right. I understand him being a dog
and staying And the reason why that makes any sense
to me as a quarterback dad is because players who
played in the league their kids, from the guys that

(14:45):
I talked to, typically have a little more patience and
a little more reality for how things should probably go.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
If your art and you read shirted.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
At your freshman year, you played a team, any tiny
bit you come back this year because you know Quinn's
going Quinn's out after this year no matter what. You
get to play significant time because Quinn got hurt. But
the whole plan was for him to play no matter what,

(15:18):
and then it's your job the next year. That that's
like a natural level of progression. Red shirt play a
teeny tiny bit, some mop up duty, but but the
majority of time it was, oh my gosh, the kid
that went to Duke and now is that Malik Murphy?

Speaker 1 (15:40):
So you play a teeny tiny bit as a freshman
red shirt. Freshman year, you played a decent amount.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
He started what three games and played other times during
the season, and then the next year start. That's like
a natural quarterback progression. I would be okay with that
for my kid, like I would. Yeah, I would be
okay with that if he were at Texas for that
for that situation. Percent we're expecting him to start this year,

(16:14):
so that's a whole different situation.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
But yeah, I.

Speaker 3 (16:20):
You know what I mean, maybe Maybee fine. I'm just
saying that, like we see this all over the country.
If you have somebody who is playing and the person
behind them can run. If you have somebody who is
playing and they're playing well, they're playing well. Not not
out of this world great, not Joe Burrows senior year

(16:42):
at LSU, not Jaden Daniels senior year LSU. But they're
playing well and the person behind them can run a
little bit. Then it gets it gets real weird because
every single time that quarterback gets sacked or can't move
around in the pocket, you imagine that the person behind
them can do everything plus run. Yeah, that's that's automatically

(17:04):
where your imagination goes, right. Well, I mean we just
watched Arizona State do this with Jayden Rashada and Sam
Levitt coming in and they were like, man, we're I
don't know how we're gonna be an offense. And this
is the coaching staff, not necessarily fan base. Coaching staff's like,
I don't know how good we're gonna be on the
offensive line this year. It's gonna be maybe a rough
go for whoever we put back there. Maybe we should

(17:24):
go with the best athlete. So fans aren't insane for
thinking this way. They're not. They played video games. They
know that it's a little bit easier when you when
you got a running quarterback back there. But like I personally,
I believe that that Texas fans are gonna have a
little bit of a root awakening and they're gonna realize

(17:45):
just how good quin Ewers was. And I also believe
it's your boy Bo Nick's fault that quin Ewers is
going to the NFL instead of cashing the largest check
possible for next year. Because Bo Knicks was on to
some recruiting, so he was the number one quarterback coming
out of high school. To others, it was Spencer Ratley,
So it was it was between Bo Nicks and Spencer Rally.

(18:08):
Bon Knicks had and you were one of his bigger
critics while he was at Auburn. Right, he grew over time,
he got the experience, and then when he got picked
in the first round, everybody made fun of the Broncos. Yes,
they said, Broncos picked up a checkdown merchant. Right. What
people didn't know. What people didn't know about bon Nicks

(18:30):
is he spent two years in high school having everyone
tell him he was going to be a first round pick,
and then eventually put in the work in college to
get to the point where he earned that. Right. So,
bon Knicks was like the number one, in some cases
number two quarterback coming out five star expected to be

(18:50):
a first round pick, didn't live up to the hype
as a freshman, because who does, and then eventually got there. Right,
Counyewers might be the highest rate quarterback to ever come
out of high school. Yes, he also, So there was
this battle between Justin Fields and Trevor Lawrence to see
who was going to be the number one quarterback when

(19:11):
they came out, and after that whole thing was settled,
the and I can I can say this because I'm
aligned with one of the ranking services companies I run
a website that's an affiliate of one of them. When
that happened, it was such a boon for like, what
you know, people tuning in to see these quarterback battles.

(19:31):
Quinn Ewers was positioned as like, do you like Trevor
Lawrence and Justin Fields? You thought that was crazy? You
got to see this kid. He's even fatter.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
I saw him throw the ball when he was in
high school. I was amazed in person now because he.

Speaker 3 (19:47):
Could just be so could this just be him looking
at like Bo Nicks and be like, men, we had
very similar pats. We earned our strike vote.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
He took every bit of his eligibility.

Speaker 3 (19:58):
That's true, that's true. But then but Bo Nicks went
to the playoffs as a rookie quarterback in Denver, Like
it would it be so crazy to think that Quenn
e Weres has a similar self image. We heard him
say this the other day.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
It's like, I know my word, don't I don't think
it's crazy that he has a similar self image. But
the actual image that Quinn ears is not going to
be a first round pick. He's not, And this is
an irresponsible Well, I granted, I'm a guy who left early,
right out of second round grade. When when when I
came out, that's good for a tight end. So it

(20:37):
was time. It was time to go, and I knew
our team was going to be bad the next year.
But this sounds not very believable. About eight million. Maybe
old miss maybe Notre Dame would cut that that check
for over.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
Five million, but I doubt it.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
But but you brought up the can't archman and live
up to the hype thing? What would he take for
Archs to live up to the hype? Like, what would
he have to do to live up to the hype
at Texas outside of winning a national championship?

Speaker 3 (21:12):
He have to he would have to break the pocket,
take off around the edge, and jump from the twenty
yard line to three flips and hit the corner of
the pylon on his first play of the first game
next season to get people to be like, oh, yeah,
he's on the right path.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
So so if he comes out in his first game, uh,
let's pull up Texas schedule. So man, so if if
he I'm trying to think what he could do to
like satisfy everybody's you know, they.

Speaker 3 (21:53):
Opened at oh at Ohio State.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
So if they lose that game, it's already toasted.

Speaker 3 (22:01):
It's gonna be tough.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
They host State, UTEP and Sam Houston, and he's gonna
throw for three hundred and fifty yards and four touchdowns
in all of those games, and then maybe.

Speaker 3 (22:15):
Three twenty five agains Mississippi State this year.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
I mean, I mean you TEP in Sam Houston, and
then he's got at Florida, which is gonna be a
tough game. Oklahoma whose defense is tough at Kentucky defense.

Speaker 3 (22:32):
Tough which is hell, which is hell, Yep.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
At Mississippi State he'll kill.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
Then Vanderbilt at Georgia, Arkansas and Texas.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
Dude, their schedule again is super favorable.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
Oh my god, Oklahoma screaming, what are you talking about?

Speaker 3 (22:56):
Their schedules favorable?

Speaker 1 (22:58):
I said there sec schedule was favorable.

Speaker 3 (23:02):
Kentucky on the road and Georgia on the road.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
Kucky sinks.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
I'm not saying it's not a tough place to play,
but you're gonna be. They're gonna be out coached and outplayered.

Speaker 3 (23:16):
Maybe it was Kentucky, you said Kentucky, And now I'm like,
who would who would overpay for a quarterback because they've
been doing it.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
Yes, that's a that's a good call, buddy, That's a
very good call.

Speaker 3 (23:29):
Yeah, Devin Leary.

Speaker 2 (23:32):
Year they got Kentucky, Mississippi State, and Vanderbilt and they
play Arkans Arkansas obviously.

Speaker 3 (23:40):
A U you know, whoa whoa whoa whoa. Vanderbilt with
the return of Diego pop stop stop, we got against
Grandpa Diego.

Speaker 2 (23:52):
They're gonna be cool, but they're gonna be Actually, I'm
gonna project them as a potential that that they have
back to back winning seasons, which they they haven't seen.
So yeah, so big, big shout out to the Commodore's.
And somebody left the comment on a YouTube video recently
about the Commodoores. They were like, Yo, this team could

(24:14):
be the one that that they could actually turn out
with their money and donors and everything, be the powerhouse
in the SEC one one day like slow down, all right,
next thing up. Dion Sanders, things are heating up about
him leaving Colorado and potentially getting the Dallas Cowboys job. Ralph,

(24:37):
I am initially so what I was told from the
same people that told me he was leaving Jackson State
to go to Colorado before any media person put it.

Speaker 3 (24:46):
Out, which you hated that move.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
Yep, yep.

Speaker 3 (24:50):
At the time.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
Yeah, I mean, I get it, and I would hate
him leaving Colorado, but I get it, like this is
this is the transactional economy that we live in.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
You are all in until you're not all in.

Speaker 3 (25:07):
Much like Jackson. You don't want that. You don't want No,
I don't want that.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
I like Dionna in college and when we keep growing
and building it.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
But he got other plans. He gets a chance to
coach his son.

Speaker 3 (25:20):
Did you hear what he's doing for the NFL Draft? Yeah, dude,
but they're doing it on campus. Yes, should do her
on campus and letting the students celebrate with him.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
So, and they wanted Travis Hunter to do that too,
and Travis was like, nah, buddy, I'm going to the draft.
I'm going to go hug the commissioner and and I
get it. So they wanted them both there, but Travis
was like, no, sir, not me.

Speaker 3 (25:48):
Yeah, Travis, Travis has other concerns. He can't he can't
take his girl anywhere in public without fifty million Internet
sleuths analyzing her every move.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
Oh, it's gonna be worse at the at the draft.

Speaker 3 (26:03):
Oh, I yet know they've been the draft stuff, the
gaddy stuff. I remember all that, but maybe they'll maybe
he'll be able to hide somewhere.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
So so I do not want him to take that.
And mind you, Dion is operating as he's staying at
Colle Colorado like this is not one of them half in,
half out deals. He is operating like he is at Colorado.

Speaker 1 (26:28):
Now.

Speaker 2 (26:28):
The thing that I won't blame him for is that
if he gets the Dallas Cowboys job and he gets
to coach Shador in the NFL, Bruh, I would leave
anywhere to do that. Yeah, anywhere, get a chance to
see my son every day, coach him and everything.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
Bruh.

Speaker 2 (26:45):
Ain't no way I would turn that down, No chance.
So so initially what I heard was from those same
people is that Diana is in negotiations with Colorado on
a brand new contract and he wants more leverage in
the situation to not only make more money, but get
more power because of how much attention he's brought to Colorado.

(27:08):
The admissions are up. Don uh, the donors are up.
They're charging more in feet like he's bringing like more.

Speaker 3 (27:15):
More demands besides money. What more demands could Dion Sanders
have like, let's come up, let's come up with a
real like what he's already the Emperor of Boulder, Like on,
I'm being honest, Like what is he He's gonna go,
He's gonna go to the Colorado Border Regents and be

(27:36):
like I want Jane Orvel fired.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
Oh my god?

Speaker 3 (27:41):
What does more power look like for Dion? That's all
I'm asking.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
I don't know, it's probably internal.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
He'd be like if if I say something, just say yes,
that's that's the that's the level of power that Dion wants.

Speaker 3 (28:00):
He wants to ice out Ralphie's horns. Oh yeah, I'm
just trying to figure out, like what what is it?
What is it that he could do that he can't
do right now? He's a god there?

Speaker 1 (28:16):
Yeah yeah, yep, so yeah, so so is this.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
So let's let's say he left Colorado, right, Okay, where
does Colorado turn? Because they are they they have now
gotten Wait hold on, we have grown accustomed to a
certain lifestyle. Yeah, we are talked about in the national media.
Every time we are we are front page news. Our

(28:45):
stuff goes goes viral, like this is like they they
will experience what the Cleveland Cavaliers fans experience when Lebron left.
They went from meet obscurity, nobody talking about the Cleveland Cavaliers.
Lebron comes front page news every single damn day.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
They put they moved.

Speaker 2 (29:11):
Brian went Windhorse basically to Cleveland just to follow Lebron
around every single day and make sure that there was news, updates,
everything about Lebron every single day.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
He left.

Speaker 2 (29:25):
And they were like, that's why they were so mad
and burning jerseys because they were like, we.

Speaker 3 (29:30):
Go back to nothing. You left us with nothing.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
They were like edge Labassett and waiting to exhale. When
was she lit the stuff on fire?

Speaker 3 (29:43):
Well, I mean that'd be that'd be a good u
way to save face for like a Lincoln Riley. No no, no,
well okay, hold on, hold on a minute, Hold on
a minute. Of course he would want to get fired

(30:05):
because we've created a situation where like there is no
there there are no more like losing situations for some
of these coaches based on what their buyouts would be. Yeah,
like everybody's trying to become the next Jimbo. Everybody everybody's
like the most probably the probably the secret most famous

(30:27):
quote in coaching circles has got to be coach order
on which door do you want me to leave out of? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (30:33):
Yeah, which way you want me to go? And which way? See?

Speaker 2 (30:36):
See what the see what the problem is? Lincoln Riley
Boulter is a great place to live, right, Yes, it
is if you like living in the snow and the cold.
Have you seen Lincoln Riley's house and his digs bro

(30:57):
he lives if if he gets caught.

Speaker 1 (31:00):
A view of the ocean, if.

Speaker 3 (31:02):
He gets thought out, he could take the jet home.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
Nobody Lincoln Riley out. He would have to leave under
his own volition.

Speaker 3 (31:13):
He is.

Speaker 1 (31:14):
He is USC's head coach unless he decides to leave
for at least three more years period.

Speaker 3 (31:22):
But you just talked about, You just talked about maybe
they gave Queen ere As the bag to to go,
like maybe maybe USC is like, hey, we'll like match
whatever your Colorado contract is. We don't want to see
you around here anymore. But I but I'm just trying
to I think I think Dion has done enough because

(31:42):
look at Jackson State. Nobody talks about Jackson State anymore,
but they stayed relevant within the swack right, So I
think he's done enough for Colorado to where it's going
to pay dividends for them for a decade. I think
they'll be able to go out out and Rick Georgia
gets somebody. As long as it's not Kenny Dillingham. Kaitlin

(32:07):
de Born might be available after next year. He's a
good coach. Man.

Speaker 2 (32:10):
They not firing it, man, that's still too much buyout money.
He got one hundred million dollars. They had eighty million
dollars in buyouts. Bro, it's not happening. After Texas A and.

Speaker 3 (32:23):
M Once Jimbo got fired, I just started assuming that
everybody's got a billion dollars.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
Yeah, no, no, no, Now, now let's get on to
the National Championship game, because this is important. Ohio State
versus Notre Dame. Notre Dame has no chance. According to everybody.
I picked them to be in the National Championship before
the season started. People called me ludacris, They called me crazy.

(32:50):
I had them plan against Oregon. Oh, Oregon's not gonna
be that good, blah blah blah. Listen, your boy is
locked in. And then when a bracket came out, I
was like, oh, hey, Notre Dame.

Speaker 3 (33:04):
Yes, yes, yes, you doubled down. You doubled down.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
Yeah, and you're not like me.

Speaker 3 (33:09):
You're not like me. You won't if the ship is
going down, you'll look for a life raft. I'll stand
on the hole being like it's gonna be fine.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
No, you not, Yes, you know you know me. I
will jump off a sinking ship quick. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (33:26):
So you got the opportunity. You got the opportunity to
say that that to go with anybody, but Notre Dame.
Once a bracket came out, you doubled down, and then
you pretty much said, like the winner of Oregon Ohio
State is gonna meet Notre Dame.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
Yep, felt felt great about it. It was just the
wrong damn thing.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
Why didn't Ohio State play like they fit against Texas
against that's a twenty point win for us. So anyways,
all right, so first of all, let's get our pick in.
I'm picking Notre Dame in the upset? Who are you picking?

Speaker 3 (34:09):
I am rooting for Notre Dame. It's hard to it's
hard to pick against Ohio State, definitely really hard. But
they were you know, one of the things we talked
about last year is they were top seven offense and
defense in the same season, which will get us into

(34:30):
talking about Brian Kelly, and I don't want to go
too far into that, but this year I think there's
six and two, Like six in scoring offense, two in
scoring defense. They just have it going on on both
sides of the football. Marcus Freeman is a great leader.
I keep thinking back to that video of when he
got announced as a coach. Yes, like those players were

(34:54):
cheering harder than I was in the stands at the
Beach Bowl when ASU went up evident overtime to have
to for one of their coaches to stay on like
they believe in him. They run through a wall for him,
which is hard to foster that in h like a
in a pay for play, in an openly pay for

(35:15):
play environment. And then you've watched player after player go
down on this Notre Dame defense, and everybody that steps
in is ready. Yep, that's very tough to do because
sometimes the only way to get ready is to is

(35:36):
to drown a little bit and then start kicking your feet.
That's not what's happening to them at all. Every It's
like shark's teeth with them. One falls out, another one
pops up. So I really want this Notre Dame team
to be rewarded for what they did over the last
two years cumulative, cumulatively, and I'm I'm separating myself. I've

(35:58):
never been a Notre Name hater. I've never looked at
them the way a lot of people look at like
the Cubs or the just because.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
They live on loved Notre Dame because I was a
huge rocket Ishmail fan.

Speaker 3 (36:12):
Me too, big, big rocket Ishmail guy. His son played
at Wyoming, so I'd like I rooted for when when
Wyoming got his son, I freaked out, like, uh, same
for me. Uh. I think Jerome bettis uh like they
you know, but I will say that like my mom's
entire side Irish Catholic, going back forever, so it you know,

(36:35):
it was kind of natural that they were always on.
But I'm not a fan. But I'm also not just
a hater for no reason. And they have been Like
it does catch up to them eventually being softer, not soft,
not soft, softer than some of their high level opponents.
That's just not the case anymore. These dudes are nasty.

(36:55):
And then they got they got my guy, Jordan Clark
in that secondary Benjamin Morrison, one of my all time
favorite HIG school fotball players. He's injured for them, but
like a man, I just I love this team and
I want them to win. I'm not sure they will,
but I want them to.

Speaker 1 (37:10):
Yeah, I would say that I'm there.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
And Marcus Freeman, I think, is a brilliant defensive mind.
And Notre Dame is a type of team. They drag
you down into their type of game and they just
whoop on you.

Speaker 3 (37:25):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (37:25):
They just they just drag you down and just and
and then you're like, what what do what do I do?
What do I do?

Speaker 2 (37:32):
And then you start doing stuff you shouldn't normally do,
and then all of a sudden you're in a rock fight.
This game is going to be a If this game
turns into a rock fight, Notre Dame has won. They
have won the game if they turned this into a
rock fight.

Speaker 3 (37:47):
Can I ask you a question that will maybe illustrate
exactly how you feel about Marcus Freeman? Yeah, Okay, keep
everything the same, every flip the head coaches, what's your prediction.

Speaker 1 (38:02):
Ohio State? And of huge blowout? Huge blowout?

Speaker 3 (38:08):
Is that anti is that anti Ryan Day sentiment? Or
is that confidence in Marcus Freeman? And also is it
telling of who you think has a better roster.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
Probably all three, all three of those things. And I'm
not anti Ryan Day. I think that he's just got
to prove that he can win in the biggest moments, because.

Speaker 3 (38:31):
He did last year against Notre Dame.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
See here's the here, here, here's the thing. But what
was that him winning? Or was that Notre Dame's fault
for only having ten men on the field.

Speaker 3 (38:42):
Well, yeah, that gets into is Marcus Freeman the coach
that we've all put him on a pedestal to be?

Speaker 2 (38:49):
So here, here's the here's the biggest question, Ralph is
so Ryan Day I see, and it troubles me because
on one hand, Ryan Day is the guy.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
Like he's and.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
I'm gonna be careful with the old words. Is that
I obviously think he's a very good coach. Let's let's
preface this and so so, what I'm getting ready to
do is called a ship sandwich. So so in business,
they tell you when you have to deliver some bad news,
put some good news on the front, put some good
news on the back, and put the ship in the middle,
and you make a ship sandwich. Okay, So that's what

(39:32):
I'm doing. Ryan Day is a very good coach, very
good recruiter. He's done a great job. When I watched
see I watch people's faces, their their their energy and
all of these things. This is part of the reason
why Ohio State has lost games to Michigan so many times.

(39:55):
It matters so much. Have you ever seen a player
that it mattered mattered so much to them that then
and they never like, they put in all the work,
they do all the right things, and then when when
the big moment comes, he can't get it done or
he doesn't play well right. And a lot of that
had And it's not for lack of talent, lack of

(40:17):
want to, lack of preparation. They just don't know how
to loosen up and not be tight in those moments.
And that's why he's lost the Michigan games. And I've
seen him in the playoff in that first game. Who
did they play the first game, Tennessee? Then they played Oregon,

(40:38):
but it was It's been times this season where he
has looked happy right and then stuff start, like he's
smiling on the sideline and then something goes wrong, the
game gets tight, and he's like and then he's happy again.
So it's that it's that wave of motion that that

(41:02):
messes with your team. Once he learns how to be
steady as the as the ship, I mean steady as
no no matter what the com the waters are around him,
they will win a national championship because.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
They're very and if he can do that, they will
beat Notre Dame.

Speaker 2 (41:18):
But it's all about him and his leadership and where
if he can keep the team relaxed and calm and
not because they're going to feed off of his energy.
If the coach is tight and nervous and changing the
way he talks to the team during during the meetings

(41:39):
and stuff like that, they recognize that you gotta be
same every single day, no matter whether you've lost two games,
whether you lost the Michigan or like we'll be like
we're gonna tighten up our bootstraps now we just lost.

Speaker 1 (41:52):
Nah. You gotta keep the same way the whole way through.

Speaker 2 (41:57):
So that's where I think that Ohio States, you know
that they can get it done, but it's on Ryan day.
I would just trust I trust Marcus Freeman to do
a better job of that.

Speaker 3 (42:14):
Yes, they both, I mean, yeah, there's more. It's weird
because it's it feels like there's more on the line
for Ryan Day than it does Marcus Freeman. It feels
like there's more pressure on one side and maybe that's
just what comes with a favorite and is you and
I talked about all year long, like I believe that

(42:35):
Ohio State should have gone into the season as the
number one team. I believe that talent wise, this defense
is one of the most stacked that we've ever seen.
They the defense, for the most part, has lived up
to the expectation it's been. There's been a couple of
times of the offenses hit and miss, with the offense
has also been very, very good. They both have just
loaded staffs as far as UH talented coaches on the

(43:00):
offensive and defensive side of the football. Both coaches got
crazy facial hair. This is the Wooly Willie game. Remember
Woolie Willie. Mm hmmm, I'm gonna let you google Willie.
I'm gonna let you google the Wooly Willie toy. Was
this not a Was this not a thing in your house?

Speaker 1 (43:19):
Willie Wooly Willie or Willie Willie.

Speaker 3 (43:21):
Wooly Willie wool w o l y Willie Willie. For
Marcus Freeman's UH hairline and Ryan days beard.

Speaker 1 (43:33):
Oh god, that is they both got great.

Speaker 3 (43:37):
Attention to detail. A yeah, it's today, don't kids they
I mean they probably have like a Willie Willie app
or whatever. Man, kids, they don't know what we did
when we were bored. Oh my god, taking a bald
man of fade with with magnet fragments. But no, I

(44:01):
just think that, uh man, these are They've proven to
be the two best teams. I feel like there's a
ton of pressure on Ryan Day. You've mentioned a bunch
of times. It's just gonna be a matter of how
how he handles it. But they both got such good
staffs that the real truth of this is.

Speaker 1 (44:18):
If you can't you can't see it. But I just
put a picture of the where you could drag the
I do. I didn't know what the name of it was.
Where you can drag the the the stuff. Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
Yes, that's because I've seen We've been like what type
of shoe polysis? He putting on his beard, and uh
Marcus Freeman the same thing for that hair.

Speaker 3 (44:39):
Yeah, every time they walk into the room, it's like
people who have no impulse control. Marcus Freeman walks in
the room they're like hair hairline, dude.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
It reminds me of.

Speaker 2 (44:51):
It reminds me of coming to America with like the
soul glow like you can't or or dating a chick
with a sprays hand. You can't let her into bed
with your white sheets.

Speaker 3 (45:05):
You think Ryan Day got black pillow cases?

Speaker 1 (45:08):
Yes, dude. He gotta put his shirt on like this,
Oh my gosh. Look, and when he.

Speaker 2 (45:18):
And he's got to put his he's gotta put like
a napkin like like either either that or he puts
the beard on after he gets dressed.

Speaker 1 (45:28):
And then he's got to put like a cape on
in front of him.

Speaker 3 (45:32):
If he was just okay, if if he was to
shave right before the game, I think Ohio State might
lose by him. I think all his players will be
staring at him. He's one of those people that can't shave. Ever,
No like he I don't think he would be. I
don't think you would recognize him.

Speaker 1 (45:55):
It's like Travis Kelcey without without the beard. Bro, he's
he he loses a billion or a points.

Speaker 3 (46:04):
All right?

Speaker 2 (46:05):
Lasting up, Bill Belichick and his contract. They have been
discussed at nauseum. Ralph oh the oh Bill Belichick's going
to the NFL. He hasn't signed his contract, and I'm like,
slow down. Charon Moore didn't have a signed contract till
like five six weeks into the season and they were bad.
So people are like, I wonder if he's gonna get fired.

(46:26):
He hasn't signed his contract yet. There's two parts to
signing an nf to signing a college football head coach.
Number One, you can't even work on the campus if
you're not under contract. Like he's already involved into the
university system. They've done his background check, they've done all
of the necessary things that you have to do that

(46:47):
the state requires for you to be working there. He's
already done all those those things. Then there is a contractually,
there's two parts. There's a memorandum of understanding, which is signed,
which is all the deal points, all the big deal points, money, recruiting, budget, staff, money,

(47:08):
who makes what decisions, and all of these things, bonuses,
everything is in there. And then there is the actual contract.
So the memorandom of understanding is probably gonna be like
two pages long. And then which is what contracts should
actually be, right. But then there's the legal jargon, Oh well,

(47:29):
we can here are the dates that you're due buy
out money. Here are the days that if you leave.
Here's what happens if there's a sexual assault case, and
then we have to fire you for the Like all
of the legal jargon will turn this two page thing
into like a fifty page thing. So the fifty pages

(47:50):
is getting worked out. There's no rush to do.

Speaker 1 (47:52):
The fifty pages.

Speaker 2 (47:54):
The fifty pages gets done when the fifty pages gets done.
But the memorandum of understanding islegally enforceable. Yes, there does
create some gray areas within that until the all the
but but it's generally understood and accepted until you get
the contract finished.

Speaker 3 (48:13):
And my guess is he's going to have some pretty
unique things in there, yes, that are going to take
some discussion, like no double dating with the players. I
wish I was kidding. Man, this girl is younger than
Cam Rising.

Speaker 1 (48:32):
That's a good point.

Speaker 3 (48:34):
His girl is younger than like half of the top
ten quarterbacks last year.

Speaker 1 (48:40):
So it's just the the I do understand.

Speaker 2 (48:44):
We are now technically sort of in the off season,
so these things are And then the NFL hiring cycle
is going on, and everybody wants to throw Bill Belichick's
name out there. If Bill Belichick an NFL job, he
would have he wouldn't have accepted North Carolina.

Speaker 1 (49:03):
They have a good idea.

Speaker 2 (49:05):
If you're gonna hire Bill Belichick, you already know you're
gonna hire Bill Belichick.

Speaker 1 (49:10):
You see what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (49:10):
Because he's coached for so long and he interviewed so
many places last year, they already know if you want
to hire Bill Belichick or not. You may not know
whether you want to hire Marcus Freeman or not, or
Sark or anything like that, or any of these other
college football coaches that are doing secret interviews.

Speaker 1 (49:32):
But that's a whole nother story.

Speaker 3 (49:34):
I will, okay, okay, but you can't float something out
like that and then get mad every time someone links
Dan Landing to something.

Speaker 1 (49:45):
Nobody asks you to make sense right now.

Speaker 3 (49:47):
Okay, okay, okay, all right, But I will say this,
first of all, nobody in the NFL. So the Raiders
thing was very strange to me, because you know, we've
heard that maybe there's not a rift between Brady and Belichick,
but Brady left for a reason. He spent his last
couple of years in camp, but for a reason. But
the truth of the matter is half the owners in

(50:09):
the NFL hated Bill Belichick for twenty years. Yes, and
maybe that hate flips when you then have something available
to you.

Speaker 1 (50:19):
Yes, when you're desperate.

Speaker 3 (50:21):
Yes, but but but but most of the people looking
to hire a coach have a GM in place. Yes,
No GM is gonna say, let's hire the guy who's
going to replace me, because that's gonna be a demand
of bringing him.

Speaker 1 (50:39):
Into the room.

Speaker 2 (50:40):
Belichick is gonna essentially like he's gonna want roster control,
and he doesn't need roster control. He's proven he cannot
build a roster outside of time break.

Speaker 3 (50:53):
So that so here's what's interesting about him being at
North Carolina, and I think it's fun and good. I
want him to stay there and coach as long as
he wants to coach. Michael Lombardi. Michael Lombardi is essentially
his GM, and Michael Lombardi is the one that's out
here refuting these reports, well, sort of refuting these reports
that like the contract is unsigned. He and Michael Lombardi

(51:14):
said the NFL is not an option. Why do people
keep trying to like.

Speaker 2 (51:19):
He's the most winning coach of all time and it
just makes sense. It's a good talking point.

Speaker 3 (51:24):
Right. Also, Michael Lombardi spent the last several years before
he got this gig as a professional scab picker. And
I know this is Arizona Cardinals fan that like he
was willing to say whatever rumor existed out loud. So
he's got to know. Michael Lombardi's got to know that
his job as like the bag dad Bob or whatever

(51:45):
for Bill Belichick. He's gonna be people are gonna be
very interested. I mean, just look at the stuff Deon
Sanders has had to deal with. This isn't a woe
is Me thing. The amount of attention on Dion Sanders.
And I know one social mediaccount, one major sports social
media account that has a mandate that they have to
post about don every day. What, yes, I'll tell you

(52:08):
about it off. I will show you the account off
the air they so they have to put and so
some days there's not much to post about. Yeah, and
so you gotta like you gotta.

Speaker 1 (52:20):
Kind of creative thing.

Speaker 3 (52:22):
Yeah, Yeah, there's gonna be a lot of creativity around
North Carolina football. And Michael Lombardi's gonna just he's just
gonna have to deal with it. And he should know
as somebody who was you know, uh, in that position,
doing that job, trying to just make people interested in
random NFL stories for the last few years. So you know,

(52:46):
I don't know, but I do I do think it's
I would love for this to be put to bed
as soon as possible because I'm so over the moon
excited about Bill Belichick in like the a CC. This
is one of those things that we talked about, and
you and I were on different pages when Colorado first

(53:06):
made the higher. I said, George Klavkov should tie himself
to Deon Sanders and bring him to every negotiation, and
you were like, that's not necessarily how this works. Now
looking back, I don't think Deon Sanders could have saved
the PAC twelve, but it would have been worth would
have been worth.

Speaker 1 (53:23):
Worth to try. Buddy.

Speaker 2 (53:25):
Hey, hey, I know somebody that works with him, and
they were like, hey, man, do not bring.

Speaker 1 (53:30):
Your wallet when you when you go meet.

Speaker 3 (53:32):
With do not bring wallet. So that's what I think
about Bill Bill Bill Belichick, might he could, he might
save the ACC.

Speaker 2 (53:40):
Yeah, definitely possible. And you guys, that is the College
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