November 14, 2024 • 50 mins
On this week's episode of the College Football Apostles Podcast, George Wrighster and Ralph Amsden tackle the hottest college football topics of the week- including Kirby Smart calling his own player an idiot, Matt Rhule making a midseason offensive coordinator switch, the trend of students throwing objects on the field, how we would allocate the new salary cap money available to teams through the House settlement, who the current leaders are for Coach of the Year, and Thomas Castellanos leaving Boston College after being benched.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
I'm George Reiser, He's Ralph Amson, and this is the
College Football Apostles presented by The Unafraid Show. So we
got a lot to talk about today because the college
football playoffs, the second rankings came out and everybody is
all on edge. Everybody's scared, their nervous it down.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Oh my god, the SEC is getting.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Oh stop it, just gring dude. I can't I can't
take the sec tiars. We also have to talk about
Kirby Smart. He called one of his players and an idiot.
The pressure is getting to him. Diego Pavia signs a
well filed a lawsuit against the NCAA for an injunction.
We'll talk about how that went. And the roster sized
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limitations in college football are and in just college sports
in general are going to cause a massive issue. Caused
an issue in my family for my nephew, and so
we got to talk about that as well, and also
all sorts of things in the world of college football.
And you guys don't want to miss it here on
(01:06):
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comment right there. All right, So we will start Ralph
with the college football playoffs. You had Paul fine Baum,
you had everybody crying about how is Georgia rake so low?
(01:31):
Oh my gosh, Georgia. This sucks. They're out of the
college football playoff. They have two losses. Nobody plays the
schedule like this, And I'm like, do you know how
many years that Georgia has won the schedule roulette? They
have not played? They've played Georgia twice in the non conference,
well not in conference play, I'm sorry, in conference play.
(01:53):
Excuse me? They played George Alabama twice in conference place.
It's like twenty eighteen twice. And we're supposed to sit
up here and act like that that the SEC schedules
are really good. They're not. They are the same as
what my Michigan did last year with a terrible non conference,
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what Ohio State did this year with a terrible non
conference And mind you, I hate that, hate it with
the power of a thousand suns. But the SEC tiers,
Ralph and the double standard where they're like where they
would say the Pac twelve, oh their team lost, the
Oregon lost Washington lost USC loss, they just played themselves
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out of it. But now it's the SEC and there's
a vested interest, and now all of a sudden, it's yo,
this is wrong. These are the conference is just too competitive.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Yeah, I mean, we're all lobbyists for our own self interest.
And what is ESPN's interest, right, it's in having the
teams that rate the highest, that they paid the most
money to be able to broadcast, be able to participate
in the postseason tournament. And so before any loss, a
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team is even potentially eligible. And I mean you can
make an argument for maybe South Carolina or something like that,
you know, being a three loss team that if they
went out, could deserve some consideration, but you have to
consider everything in totality to just come out and like
Heather Dnich, to just come out and be like, this
is you know, this is what it should be. Don't
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don't write somebody off just because they have three losses,
like we're writing off ACC teams if they get one
loss exactly exactly.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
And then you got people like Clay Travis out here
talking about some well, do you do you really believe
SMU could beat Alabama or Georgia or Tennessee.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
It's not about belief.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Yes, do you? Did you if I told you before
the season that Banned was gonna beat Alabama, would you
believe that that Arkansas was gonna beat Tennessee? No? Would
you have believed that Kentucky was going to give Georgia
all it could handle in Florida too? Would you have
believed that? Absolutely not. So there's a lot of things
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that you didn't believe that actually did happen.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Honestly, Like at this point, for people who feel for
people who feel that way, go do your own thing.
Just go away, go be like if you want to
make the rest of college football the new FCS whatever,
but don't like, don't have us around just to exclude us.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Oh that and that's what RHT Lashley was talking about.
And I loved him for that. I thought that he
made a great point. He was talking about the ACC
and he was like, Yo, the league has has a
chance to have a winning record versus the SEC this year.
They did last year, and we're sitting here just pooh
(05:07):
poohing the league and all the metrics say that these
teams are good. Now here's the thing that I find interesting. Right,
Let's say that Colorado ends up in the Big Twelve
Championship against BYU. Right, and they don't play in the
regular season, So twelve to zero BYU, who's now ranked
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six in the College Football playoff. Imagine a world where
Colorado and BYU play in the Big Twelve Championship. Colorado wins,
Let's say they win in a close game, you know that,
and that means Colorado gets an automatic birth. So you
know what that means.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Ralph, Right, I switched to a difference, So you know what.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
That means, Right, Ralph, what's gonna happen to either BYU
or Miami or whoever or Indiana? They're gonna get pushed
out of the College football Playoffs. That's what's going to
happen if Colorado or SMU ends up winning. Well, if
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SMU ends up winning, the acc ACC is only getting
one team in because they've been painted as the one
bid league. And after all of the election talk and
the election, So, Ralph, after all of the election talk,
you know, Harris Trump everything, we thought it was over,
(06:38):
but now the propaganda has continued in college football. You
got people caping for whoever they're voting for and whoever
they want in and they have determined predetermined. The ACC
is only a one bid league, so is the Big twelve.
We got to get four Big ten teams in, four
SEC teams in, and then the group of five teams,
(07:00):
so that leaves nine and then the other three y'all
can y'all can fight for.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
It makes sense to me. I mean, I I don't know.
I'm still stuck on this. You know, RHT Lashley, you
know you must be talking about the fact that Clemson
still has the South Carolina game yep at the end
of the year.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
And if they I mean, if they win that game,
that's just that, you know, are we going to hear
from these same people if the A has an overall
winning record against the SEC for the second year in
a row, right with with Florida State being completely out
of commission. Yeah, they didn't even help this time.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
They did nothing. They did nothing to help. They were
they were actually a net negative.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
They could have taken the year off.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
They did take the year off.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
The Florida State sabbatical.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Yes, So I find it very interesting because people get
to talk they talk about resumes. They're like, who is
Penn State beat? What are we talking about? They can't
beat anybody, and maybe Penn State can't because they don't
win big time games. But if you look at their
resume and Texas's resume, their resume is actually better than
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Texas's if we're being honest, because Texas is number three.
They're eight and one. They lost by fifteen to Georgia.
That was a beat up. They got no current ranked wins,
strength to schedule fifty six strength the record ten. Penn
State eight and one, lost by seven to Ohio State,
no ranked wins, strength to schedule thirty strength the record five.
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But they're not complaining. All they see is four big
ten teams ranked in the top five, and they're like,
we're where are teams? This is the new normal season.
Y'all ain't dominant like that no more. And they're like, well,
the conference is so competitive. But I thought it was
so competitive even when Georgia and Alabama were running through
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the conference. I thought it was still so competitive. Oh.
Now with the transfer portal, n IL rosters are getting
a little bit dinner and now they're starting to understand
what it's like to be cannibalizing yourself.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Yeah, I mean, we're we're packed twelve cast off so
I'm very curious as to why the thing you hated
about me is now the thing you like about yourself.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
And I am calling the committee a bunch of big
ten and and sec homers, yes, because like I look
at Penn State right now, and I'm like, that is
an overrated team. It's an extraordinarily overrated team.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Yeah. I actually think in Indiana would put the screws
to Penn State.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Absolutely, yeah, and that that shouldn't be. Indiana's resume is
better than Penn State's right now, it just.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Is well and and then but here's the problem, and
this is not just the committee's fault, because I'm making
a point, and we make it a point to like
try to be honesty brokers and realize biases. And all
year we've been talking about strip the names off, strip
the names off, because if Indiana was doing what they
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were doing, and they were Ohio State, or they were
Michigan or they were Alabama, they be number one in
the nation, even over Oregon right now. And we have
to like, people aren't used to seeing that Indiana is good.
They're not used to that, so it doesn't feel so
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it's a natural, like there's no way that they're that good,
same way with SMU. There's no way they're that good,
same way with BYU, even though BYU has the most
ranked wins out of anybody in the top twenty five
right now. But we're we're not sure about them, even
though I don't think that they're the most talented team,
but they keep winning. This auto matters.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Well.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
But now though even.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Even I'm even I'm skeptical BYU because they're winning ugly.
But then I have to look at and say, the
teams ranked ahead of them, are all of their wins
pretty really outside of Oregon? No, yeah, not Ohio State.
Ask Ohio State fans about that Nebraska game and they
will have a full on anxiety attack and.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
They You are right about that. That's a fact. Speaking
of coaches that are under a little bit of pressure,
and all their games haven't or even all their wins
haven't been pretty. It is Kirby Smart. So he called
Jake Pope an idiot, only to apologize the next day.
What do you think about that?
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Okay, So there's something like incredibly ironic about Kirby Smart
receiving this information which he already knew. He got asked
about it, but he already knew about it, calling the
kid an idiot, and then the next day coming out
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and saying, I probably shouldn't have said that. He was
just being understandably emotional at the time, And then I
hope somewhere in the recesses of Kirby Smart's brain it
registered to him that when put in a situation where
he had the opportunity to act in a measured response
or act emotionally, he chose to be emotional exactly, or
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if your standard, if your standard is to not act
with emotion, not be reactive, but to uphold a standard
in the way you behave in the context of what's
surrounding you, Jake Poche should have realized that they just lost.
Doesn't matter if you randomly saw family friends who you
love in the aftermath of a child's game, you should
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not look happy. That is the judgment that everybody has
passed on Jake Pope. It's an understandable one. I think
maybe we're taking things a little too serious, but it
is what it is. If you're saying that he should
have understood everything that was going on around him and
acted in a way that denied his own personal urges,
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and desires in order to respect the context. But when
you're putting that same opportunity, you call your player an
idiot something you never did, something you never did. When
Jalen Carter helped get one of your other players killed,
he was.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
And though, and they're players that have been arrested and
all this. Hey man, this is no idiots. Yeah, none
of they're all They're all kids that we gotta you know,
they're all kids that we gotta help. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
I don't know. I don't know about this. I hope
he learned something about himself. I hope he did. Did he?
I don't. He makes thirty six thousand dollars a day, George,
every day, every day that he wakes up, he's making
thirty six thousand dollars.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
That's a good gig. I need that, need that.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
But if you see somebody who you love and they
love you, and you didn't expect to see them, and
you're on the field after a child's game and they're
already happy because they're team won, and you smile, you're
an idiot. Real cool, real cool culture we built for
ourselves out here, they're just getting easier and easier to
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root against. And I think he's an awesome coach and
a great motivator and a hell of a talent collector
and a good developer of football players and a great
developer of assistant coaches. You've benefited from that. But yeah,
this is dumb thing that he said, and he should
feel done. Maybe you should feel like an idiot.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Oh that's a fact, all right. Next thing up, Matt Ruhle,
Nebraska head coach. He defended his officer coordinator Marcus Saderfield
and then demoted him for recent consultant Dana Hogerson. Why
would fans believe anything a coach says at this point?
(15:13):
This is funny to me because the Nebraska is ranked
ninety nine in total offense at three hundred and fifty
four yards a game. They're also ranked one hundredth in
scoring offense and only scoring twenty three point six points
a game. And Dylan Ryola, their young quarterback, he's had
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a rough go at it the last few few games.
And it was all after the baby Mahomes thing started.
Because we're remember they put that promo up. It was
before one of the it was like three games ago.
They were doing a big Neon kickoff and they were
like and baby Mahomes, And I was like, no, no, no,
don't do that. Don't do that. You're setting the kid
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up for it disaster. This is worse than the announcer
because he's only a freshman. Nebraska is up and coming.
They're not good yet. You are setting him up for failure.
And I met the kid a bunch of times. Him
and my kid are friends. I just know that when
your costplay Mahomes like he is right right now, you're
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not being yourself and he's got to step into who
he is and his own individuality. And once he understands
that part of it, because yes, it's dope that Mahomes
is your idol, that's who you have, that's who you
pattern yourself out of. You train with him all of
those things. But in that he's got to find himself.
(16:42):
And once he does that, I think the kid's gonna
be fine.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Yeah. I mean you probably got to do something because
he has what one touchdown pass in the last four games.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Yes, and a bunch of interceptions.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
And this is a kid who's at four high schools
in three years. He was committed to three different colleges. Uh,
he'll move, he'll move. So you got yes, really he
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was at He he played high school football in three
different states.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
That's his dad's alma mater though.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
But he had the option to commit to Nebraska at
any given time, and he chose Ohio State, and then
he chose Georgia. He'll move.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
You can't.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
You can't go there as the number one overall recruit
out of high school and not produce when you're on
the field. That's that's gonna get blamed on somebody. He'll move,
so you you have to do something to show him
that you're serious. The funny thing is just the order
that this happened in because they have a game on
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November two where they lose. On November fourth, Matt Rule
does media and he defends Marcus Sadderfield. One day later,
they bring in Dana Holgerson from TCU. I've never seen
a consultant jump teams in season before.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
That was wild yep.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
And then they're on they're on a bye week. They're
on a bye week right now, so it's not like
Marcus Saddlefield had another opportunity to screw up. Yeah, which
which means that when Matt Rule came out and defended
Marcus Sadderfield, he already had his mind made up on
making a change.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Yep. Oh oh, because they like, if you look look
at the last few games against Ucla Ohio State, Indiana
and Rutgers, that's kind of where the Wills fell off
is he hasn't thrown an intercept. Well, he's only thrown
one touchdown in the last four games, and he's throwing
six picks. So the competition has stepped up. I mean,
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I guess the defenses have stepped up the last three
weeks against Ucla Ohio State in Indiana. But I also
think that man, it's just tough, dude, Like it's tough
to start as a true freshman. And I know a
lot of kids think that, oh man, I got to
start as a true freshman and all of this, but
it's a lot to that and if they don't and remember,
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Rowler was like, we can still win here, and sometimes
like Caleb Williams when he first got to the NFL,
he was like, oh, we ain't gonna punt a lot
around here, Like I know how to win. You don't
know shit from Chiolah. You've never been here. You don't
know what it's like to win in the NFL. You
don't know what it's like to win in college. It's
harder than you think. And they're getting a rude awakening
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right now.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Yeah, And honestly, like the pressure is on Nebraska because
they they've been on the verge of clinching a bowl
for a month and there's there's a real chance that
they don't do it, and so they got to be
getting desperate. Like we've talked about on this sho show before,
and we've talked about privately. You know, I would drive
down to Columbia to see Spencer Ratler play, yeah, as
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I only lived two hours north of there, and I
would call you after those games and I would say,
this is the worst offense I've ever seen in my life.
And you'd be like, well, they just beat Texas A
and M And I'm like, it does not, Matt, Like
it's the way that it's run. It's either it's either
Spencer Ratler drops back fifteen yards to be able to
throw a bomb to Xavier Legette or he just working
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screens on the outside. There's no nuance to it. And
it was awful. And Nebraska bringing in Marcus Sadderfield. I
didn't think that that was going to be good for
Dylan Royola because they're similarly not super mobile with a
big arm. And you and I have had a lot
of conversations about what Dylan Royola does not do well,
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and that's escape pressure or get rid of the football,
and so I thought it was going to be a disaster.
What is very interesting to me is Daniel Horgson is
an air raid guy. You're gonna switch the air raid
in the middle of the season.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Yeah, And Nebraska is not set up to two air
raid like, they don't have big.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
It's gonna be fascinating, definitely. And I wonder if it's
a long term move. I wonder if Holgerson like this
is where he's gonna gonna lock down. Yeah, I don't know.
I'm I. I am very interested about what's happening there.
But as far as like can we can we you know,
believe anything Matt Rule says, if we're out here believing coaches,
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we made a huge mistake.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
That's a fact. What do you think are the downstream
effects of the new roster sized limitations in college football?
So we we know that that two point eight billion
dollar house versus the n cua A settlement is not
finalized yet, and I actually think it's further away than
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people think that it is because there's gonna be more
and more lawsuits and they're changing the roster sizes, so
they're dropping from an average roster size in FBS of
one twenty one to one oh five, but they're upping
the scholarship limit from eighty five where you can go
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all the way to one oh five. Teams like Georgia
said they're staying at eighty five because obviously that impacts
how much nil that you have to pay. It's a lot,
you know, there's a lot of being counters trying to
figure this whole thing out right right now. And this
impacted my nephew in terms of because he's a baseball
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player committed to Cal and then when they dropped the
roster sizes, that changed his situation. So now there have
been other kids who have been impacted the exact same
same way, and I'm wondering what are gonna be the
un intended consequences in college football because the roster sizes
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is being a dropping down from one to from one
oh five to from one twenty one to one oh five.
That means less walk ons because from eighty five to
one twenty one was all walk Ons and now dropping
to one oh five, but then increasing the amount of scholarships.
I don't know how that benefits college football, because the
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walk Ons are very important.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
You're about to spill a secret.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
What's that?
Speaker 2 (23:39):
What the walk Ons are used for?
Speaker 1 (23:42):
What do you mean practice?
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Well, if you're on the football team, you got a
team GPA, right.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Oh yes, oh yeah, yes, yes, that is it. That
is a good point.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
You gotta do academic progress rate.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Yes, yep, yep, that good old APR. I didn't even
think about that, Ralph. And but but you are one
hundred percent right. A lot of the walk Ons, like
the vast majority of walk Ons, the overwhelmed that they
graduate at a much higher rate than the scholarship players,
except that like Stanford, like Northwestern. So yeah, so that
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means some of these APR rates are gonna fall. And
truthfully so, I've had some conversations with some with some
people at some schools, and that's actually one of the
things that they are highly concerned about right now, is
that their graduation rates are going down a lot with
the advent of the transfer portal, because players are more
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trying to stay eligible and then when they transfer credits
get lost messed up, and then they're not graduating nearly
at the rate that they were. So that is highly concerning.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
So this is my question. Then, like, what is like
Ring of Honor stuff gonna look like five ten years
down the road.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Oh my gosh, Okay, pro I'm glad you brought that
up because I saw a video today about Dylan Gabriel
at Oregon. They were talking to It was basically like
a Heisman video comparing him with Marcus and all of
this stuff. It was a school video, and I was like, so,
if he wins a Heisman Trophy, where does he stand
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in Oregon? The Oregon Pantheon? If he wins a Heisman
Trophy and a national championship, where does he go. He's
only been there, he would have been been there for
less than for barely more than a year, for like
a year and like two weeks by the time the
national championship happens. So he's gonna get a trophy there
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because obviously he played there, but he would have spent
more time in Oklahoma and UCF than he spent at Org. Yeah,
so does he go in the Ring of Honor? I mean,
obviously he's going to get a place there because of
a Heisman Trophy, and you are and the first national championship, Bro,
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you are going to be beloved there.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Yeah, it's I don't know, I wonder about stuff like
this when you know, because you talk about this all
the time. Everybody in the NBA makes the whole of fame, right, Yeah,
what team is Paul George going to represent there? Nobody
likes that man, So that's what we're that's what we're
entering in there.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
And the fact that he's that he could be a
Hall of Famer is ridiculous. That that's a whole nother thing.
Like he's a very good player, but nothing like anyways, Yeah,
I can't even I can't even fathom Paul George as
a high like that should not be so. But but
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he is a very good player. But still do you
think but you do.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
You think we're gonna see like some really really good
group of six teams because of this? What do you
mean more three star high schoolers go into like Toledo.
I would have room for them.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Oh no, But but thing is is it gonna be?
I mean, it's gonna be room for them because they
it's not like they're reducing the scholarship number. They're actually
increasing it, so there are more players who can get
scholarships coming out of high school.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Yeah. I think it's just a wait and see thing
for me. I don't know what the downstream effects are
gonna be. I know that there's gonna be a lot
less people who I think probably play football after high
school than there used to be. But it's a lot
of other sports being affected by this as well.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
For sure. All right, next this one up. Uh, there
seemed to be an increased amount of students throwing objects
onto the field. Is it even possible to stop that?
So we've had incidents where, you know, Texas Tech was
throwing like they were throwing tortillas at Colorado and they were,
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and Joey McGuire had to get on the mic and
ask students to stop trying to throw it. Utah hit
a BYU cheerleader in the face with a water bottle.
Clemson an LSU fans through trash on the field. Texas
was throwing trash And this is why you can't let
people get away with stuff. The only way to stop
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this is to make an example out of them. Kids
you throw stuff on the field, you're kicked out of school.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
I was wondering if you're going to go there, if
you were going to relate it to their actual like
academic status.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Yes, or you are banned from games and if you're
not a student, we are pressing charges. Yeah, we are
pressing charges because the only way to stop that because
the the Texas fans, they got a call overturned and
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so now fans are like, okay, cool, nothing nothing happened
to those people. So cool, we'll love do it. But
have a couple of people be made an example of.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Yeah, I like it, I like it, but I you know,
I didn't love Texas Texas student section going to war
with Colorado like that, and Colorado invites it, like they
want that energy, They want to taunt the crowded, they
want to flash to watch, they want to have theon
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junior film it so they could package it for content,
like they want the conflict. But when you're getting hit
with tortillas, you know what's to stop somebody from throwing
something else? And like you said in the in the
BYU game, by you cheer coach got hit in the
face with a bottle. Yeah, from a from a Utah fan.
Now you got you got your guy Joey Maguire getting
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on the mic in the middle of the game screaming
at the students to stop throwing stuff. You had lsu
throwing things. Now it feels like it's like yeah, and
and I thought that consequences in Texas is like you
have to identify everybody, yep, and you I mean you
can now if I went to a Charlotte Hornet's game
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last year to see lebron play, and afterward I got
an email from the Charlotte Hornets that said, do you
want to see yourself in your seat?
Speaker 1 (30:41):
WHOA?
Speaker 2 (30:42):
And I was like, what the hell does that mean?
So I click on it and they filmed the whole
crowd and they put out a so you can get
on there and you can look at which is a
little scary, like if you're sitting three rows away from
a from you know, if you're unstable mentally, you're sitting
three rows away from an attractive female and you know
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you want to find out more about her. You can
jump on that app and zoom in on her in
the stands, Like I I don't know how I feel
about the minority report future that we're living in. But
the technology certainly exists to identify anybody who does something stupid.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Yeah, no, you are one hundred percent right, one undred
percent right. If you were a college football general manager,
how would you allocate the twenty and a half million
dollar revenue share cap for the players? How much would
go to the quarterback? And what percentage do you dedicate
to incoming freshmen? This is easy for me. Anybody worried
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about twenty and a half million dollars better worried about that.
Do you know why? Because we still got boosters outside
who will give deals.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Who is we?
Speaker 1 (31:51):
We as in colleges Ohio State, Oregon, Alabama, Hell, Boise State.
You to everybody has boosters that own businesses. Oh ay, now,
all right, so we only got seven hundred and fifty
thousand dollars for our quarterback. So how about let's actually
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bump that because we need to get these other kids
paid a little bit of something too. So we'll bump
the quarterback down to five hundred thousand. But then the
car dealership over over here, they'll kick in another one
hundred and fifty and then he'll get a deal with
with with a Rainbow Enterprises in the city to do
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a commercial for them. That's another one hundred and fifty
and then we'll like they'll they'll just piece mill it
together from the community, which are gonna be legal nil deals.
So the idea of a salary cap is not It
would be like in the NBA Lebron James making fifty
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million dollars, right, who is Lebron James real employer, Like,
he's actual employer.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Nike, Nike.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
He makes more money from Nike than he ever will
in the NBA. So it would be like the NBA
putting a cap on Lebron James endorsement deals with Taco
Bell and you know, in Sprite and whoever else. Because
it's unfair to competition, you can't. So it is still
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gonna be an arms race of who can get what.
The difference is the school can pay some of this
money out instead of it being sorted through the collectives
and outside it, which I do like better because then
there's some transparency and accountability when kids don't live up
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to what they agreed to, and when they do, they
should still be paid.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
So how would you allocate twenty and a half million
at your disposal as a college football GM.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
So freshmen are getting a base pay right of our
top freshmen, right, so we are going to rank them down.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
What percentage of that twenty and a half are you
dedicating to incoming high school freshmen, not transfer portal people.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
But let's say I get twenty five freshmen coming in
probably two and a half million dollars.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
So an average of one hundred k per freshman.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Yes, but everybody not getting one hundred k, somebody's probably
gonna get too. Yeah, So I'll probably say two and
a half million to four million two freshmen, and then
the rest of it is going to everybody else, and
there's going to be a base amount of pay, Like
if you're a star, there's gonna be a base amount
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of pay that you get. You're an All American, here's
what you're gonna get. Here's that, you know what I mean.
So we're gonna and that's what Georgia is essentially doing now.
And that makes sure you don't mess your roster up
because you're trying to I mean, look at the Bryce
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Underwood's situation with with Michigan. Kid from Michigan committed to
LSU and now Michigan is talking about ponying up ten
and a half million dollars. Now, granted, I am happy
for the kid, happy for him, get that get that money,
because I can't even imagine what that's gonna look like
in twenty thirty. Oh it's still less.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
It's still less than the deal that Florida tried to
work out for Jane Roshata.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
Yeah. And do you know why I care about twenty thirty?
Speaker 2 (35:54):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (35:54):
I know so, I know so so so a twenty
thirty some more So I'm like, get get your money.
But in the also, I'm like, wouldn't it make more
sense to just go pay John Materier like two million dollars?
Speaker 2 (36:17):
Yeah? Well, Hey, if your twenty thirty needs a theme
song from my twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
Hey, I'm not I'm not mad mad at.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
My twenty twenty seven could write your twenty thirty some
entrance music.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
I like it. Bro we going full oh, bro, whole
marketing campaign starts in twenty twenty five. We got five
years to wrap that thing up.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
Question the generational prospect of me working for you, my
kids working for your kids, their kids working for their kids.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
Hey, bro, every everybody gonna be everybody gonna be eating
good these are some big ass table scraps. Hey bro Okay,
So who are your current Coach of the Year candidates
right now? Because this one is interesting to me? Right
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because Coach of the Year. I don't think that you're
gonna get guys like Dan Lanny and Mario Christobaul getting
coach of the year love because it's hard to get
coach of the year love when your rosters are so
good and there were expectations.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Well, the money has to factor in now, your your
NIL spend has to factor into how good of a
coaching job you did. In my opinion, yes, sure, I
feel like I feel like it's it's wrapped up. If
Indiana exists and they do and they hit ten wins,
it's really really hard for me to see anybody getting
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anything other than Kurt Signetti. That's that's really I know.
RG three came out and said the story of the
year deon, and to a certain extent, I agree. Even
following a team that is also seven and two and
was picked below Colorado.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
Yes, I was gonna say Kenny Kenny Dillingham over at ASU.
They were picked to finish last in the conference. I
know Indiana was picked to finish close to last, and
and Kalani Sataki.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
Too, hm hmm, yeah, Kilanie Sataki for sure? Oh sure?
Speaker 1 (38:37):
Are you in case? You know?
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
So if I had to pick one right now, right,
if you were like George, cast your vote right now,
I would cast it for Kalanie Sataki. I'm sorry for uh,
for Kurt Singhetti if you asked me. If let's say
that Indiana beats If Indiana beats Ohio State in two weeks,
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it's guaranteed, Kirk kurtzing.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
Get Yeah, that's a rap. Probably.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
If if they lose to Ohio State and Colorado wins
out and gets into the College Football Playoff, it's Dion.
If Arizona State has all the things break for them
and they finish ten and two and play for the
Big Twelve Championship, it's Kenny Dillingham.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
They only need two things to happen outside of winning out.
What's that Colorado has to lose once. Okay, that's not unthinkable,
and West Virginia has to lose once. That's it.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
That's totally need, that's unbelievable. And both of those things
are highly highly possible, Yeah, highly possible. All right, next thing,
all right, so Oklahoma came out in back. Brent Venables
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Florida said that Billy Napier is safe. Do you think
that schools are starting to exercise more patients with head coaches? No,
I don't. The problem is the buyouts are too big.
They don't want to exercise patients. If USC could fire
Lincoln Riley for under twenty million dollars right now, they
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would if they look like, if Lincoln Riley's buyout was
like ten million dollars, he would be gone. But it's
eighty eight million dollars. Billy Napier is twenty five or
twenty six, And I actually think it's smarter to keep
Billy Napier. But at the same time, this is also
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happening in the same year that you're getting the story
that we talked about first about the college football the
budgets to twenty and a half million dollars the revenue sharing,
So that's a big deal too. Brent Venables, if his
buyout was because they gave him an extension, his buyout
now is like forty four million dollars. And you think
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about the biggest buyouts paid of all time, it is
Jimbo Fisher at seventy six million dollars and then the
next one. Do you know who the next one is
the next biggest buyout ever paid in college football?
Speaker 2 (41:28):
Well, it wasn't, Mel Tucker. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
Tell me Gus miles on at Auburn for twenty point
eight million dollars.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
God damn.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
So that's fifty six more million dollars for Jimbo. And
I don't think that that set a precedent. I actually
think that with the new salary cap and everything else,
I think that they're going to be trying to be
more judicious with coaches contracts because LSU is not exactly
had with Brian Kelly right right now, but he's owed
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so much damn money. USC's not happy with Lincoln Riley.
Oklahoma's not happy with Brent Vinnables. But the problem is
is that their contracts are so big that it makes
it like, if you're USC, you gotta wait five more
years before a biout is even close to reasonable at
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thirty three million. So it's like it's like the Deshaun
Watson contract and people asking why did the Browns keep
paying him playing him? Because the only hope is that
you try to fix it, like fixing it is the
only hope because the way the contract is, you can't
get out of it.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
Hey, I got a I got a twenty fifteen niss
On Quest, twenty fifteen niss On Quest. It is paid off.
It has been giving me problems lately. One of the
one of the sly door handles came off and it's
been shaken a little bit when we drive it. We
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took it in to get the new door handle put on,
and they came back and said, this needs thirty seven
hundred dollars worth of work today to day. And you
know it's it's ten years old. It's paid off. We
put one hundred and sixty thousand miles on it. I've
taken this on five five thousand mile road trips. We
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got a lot out of it. Could we use a
new vehicle? Sure, sure, But anything that we buy new
that's going to be seven eight hundred dollars a month
in payments. So I did the math and I was like,
all right, five months of a new car payment to
get us through another year with this van. Or we
dropped seventy k to bring in a new van to
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just get us from point A to point B. It
made the ends to fix this van and that and
and the and the fact that, like you know, us,
getting a new car would be like paying a buyout.
Speaker 1 (44:01):
For our for your quest.
Speaker 2 (44:05):
So that brings me to an article that you sent
my way this week from on three that said that
the smart financial decision for a lot of coaches that
you're unsatisfied with is going to actually be to reinvest
in them instead of fire them. And how did it
say that we were going to reinvest in these.
Speaker 1 (44:24):
Coaches firing coordinators offensive and defensive coordinators.
Speaker 2 (44:30):
So there's only so many of those to go around.
So what's going to happen to the salaries of these
offensive and defensive coordinators?
Speaker 1 (44:39):
Oh, they are still going to be about a million dollars.
It's just it's just a lot easier to stomach a
three million dollar buyout for a coordinator than it is
eighty million dollars.
Speaker 2 (44:51):
Well, but so you don't think Brenda Marion's price tag
just went through the roof?
Speaker 1 (44:55):
Oh yes, oh oh oh you're talking about people? Yes, yes, yes, yes, dude,
So Brand and Marion should be because I do believe
there's gonna be less big time head coaching jobs open.
But yes, Brandon Marion should be making probably a million
and a half to two million next year because there
should be a bunch of teams that are after him.
Speaker 2 (45:19):
He could be making more than Barry Otom to do
the same job he's doing now.
Speaker 1 (45:24):
Yes, And would you take that Oklahoma job if you
or him? Yes, would you take usc? Actually? I don't
think Lincoln's ever gonna get give up to play call
and duty or anything. But yeah, the truth.
Speaker 2 (45:40):
I worry though, because if you if you're that next
dude at offensive coordinator and you go and you don't
perform because maybe your head coach doesn't want to give
up control or change styles or whatever, then you end
up kind of like in a I mean, you know
Josh gattis right.
Speaker 1 (45:57):
Yeah, over in Maryland, Dude, he's running a whole different
style of offense than he was at at Miami, which
is wild.
Speaker 2 (46:04):
But he had to evolve because everybody said he was
the next big thing, and then he went into these
situations with head coaches that don't actually like to change,
and then all of a sudden his reputation is damaged
and instead of being a head coach somewhere, he's an
offensive coordinator at Maryland and so that's what I worry
about for these these coordinators. They got to think long term.
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They might be taking a big paycheck to go be
an emergency solution for a team that doesn't want to
pay twenty five million dollars to get rid of Brent Venables.
But if the offense doesn't look good in year one,
then all of a sudden, you went from being a
rising star at OC to what just another dude?
Speaker 1 (46:45):
Yep. Yeah, life comes at you fast sometimes, and that's
why he got to strike when the iron is hot,
all right. So next thing up, So Bill O'Brien, he's
been known to rub players the wrong way. He just
bitched his starting quarterback Thomas Castlianos over at Boston College
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and Casianos, who's stuck with the coaching change after coming
to BC from UCF. He got benched and then he
left the team to cool off. But now it seems
that it's permanent. And I think that this kid is
going to be a big name in the in the portal.
And when you look at his stats on the on
the season, he's completing sixty one percent of his passes,
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eighteen touchdowns, five interceptions. Is he an elite passer. No,
is he a good passer? Pretty good, but he's going
to be sought after in the transfer portal. Who do
you side with in this drama?
Speaker 2 (47:52):
Who do you side with in this drama? That just
got Oregon their starter next year?
Speaker 1 (47:58):
Na, Oregon organ are got they started on their roster
right now? Okay, Okay, yeah they are. They love the
Nova Sad kid and they love Dante more so it
will be one of them for sure.
Speaker 2 (48:10):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (48:11):
Like, I do not see a world where they bring
in another transfer portal starter this year. I don't That
would be highly surprising. High.
Speaker 2 (48:29):
I don't love this. I didn't love it when Charlie
Brewer did it. Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (48:35):
I don't like quitting in the middle of the season.
There's still a couple of weeks left. Just finish out
the season. You're already gonna hop into transfer portal any anyway,
Just keep going to your meetings, keep showing up. They
got SMU North Carolina and Pitt who knows if the
kid that he starts, he may not even make it
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through two snaps, and you would have given up more
opportunities to play. I don't like that. Finish out the season.
I understand that you're frustrated, you're upset, you think you
were wrong finish out the season. Man, me, it would
be different if there was some advantage to not, But
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there's no advantage to not.
Speaker 2 (49:21):
Yeah, I mean you know a little bit about the kid.
I've met him, I've interviewed him. If somebody called me
and said, like, should I pursue him in the portal,
I'm not gonna hesitate. I'm just gonna be like, yes, absolutely,
Like this is the this is a type of college
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quarterback who will move the chains.
Speaker 1 (49:44):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (49:46):
He can run. He didn't run a lot this year,
but he can run well.
Speaker 1 (49:49):
Yeah, and if you can develop him as a passer,
you're gonna have a fantastic opportunity to have success.
Speaker 2 (50:00):
Yeah. I don't know. For me, it's like a credit
debit thing, Like I give him credit for sticking because
that was a tough situation that whole team could have bailed. However, Yeah,
it's not a good look. It's not a good look.
Speaker 1 (50:16):
No. No, in fact, it's a terrible look. Terrible.
Speaker 2 (50:20):
Yeah, and he should be punished by being made to
play next year in Laramie, Wyoming.
Speaker 1 (50:27):
Oh yeah, of course, I bet I bet you would
love him playing in Laramie, Wyoming. You're damn yeah, But
you guys though, I'm George Reister, he's Ralph Amson. This
is the College Football Apostles, you guys. Make sure you
guys check back next week. Check out all the stuff
on the Unaffray Show. Peace out, Catch you guys next
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week
I'm George Reiser, He's Ralph Amson, and this is the
College Football Apostles presented by The Unafraid Show. So we
got a lot to talk about today because the college
football playoffs, the second rankings came out and everybody is
all on edge. Everybody's scared, their nervous it down.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Oh my god, the SEC is getting.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Oh stop it, just gring dude. I can't I can't
take the sec tiars. We also have to talk about
Kirby Smart. He called one of his players and an idiot.
The pressure is getting to him. Diego Pavia signs a
well filed a lawsuit against the NCAA for an injunction.
We'll talk about how that went. And the roster sized
(00:45):
limitations in college football are and in just college sports
in general are going to cause a massive issue. Caused
an issue in my family for my nephew, and so
we got to talk about that as well, and also
all sorts of things in the world of college football.
And you guys don't want to miss it here on
(01:06):
Unafraid Show College Football Apostles, and you guys make sure
that you like, subscribe, tell a friend about the show,
and of course get notifications and share, so leave a
comment right there. All right, So we will start Ralph
with the college football playoffs. You had Paul fine Baum,
you had everybody crying about how is Georgia rake so low?
(01:31):
Oh my gosh, Georgia. This sucks. They're out of the
college football playoff. They have two losses. Nobody plays the
schedule like this, And I'm like, do you know how
many years that Georgia has won the schedule roulette? They
have not played? They've played Georgia twice in the non conference,
well not in conference play, I'm sorry, in conference play.
(01:53):
Excuse me? They played George Alabama twice in conference place.
It's like twenty eighteen twice. And we're supposed to sit
up here and act like that that the SEC schedules
are really good. They're not. They are the same as
what my Michigan did last year with a terrible non conference,
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what Ohio State did this year with a terrible non
conference And mind you, I hate that, hate it with
the power of a thousand suns. But the SEC tiers,
Ralph and the double standard where they're like where they
would say the Pac twelve, oh their team lost, the
Oregon lost Washington lost USC loss, they just played themselves
(02:35):
out of it. But now it's the SEC and there's
a vested interest, and now all of a sudden, it's yo,
this is wrong. These are the conference is just too competitive.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Yeah, I mean, we're all lobbyists for our own self interest.
And what is ESPN's interest, right, it's in having the
teams that rate the highest, that they paid the most
money to be able to broadcast, be able to participate
in the postseason tournament. And so before any loss, a
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team is even potentially eligible. And I mean you can
make an argument for maybe South Carolina or something like that,
you know, being a three loss team that if they
went out, could deserve some consideration, but you have to
consider everything in totality to just come out and like
Heather Dnich, to just come out and be like, this
is you know, this is what it should be. Don't
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don't write somebody off just because they have three losses,
like we're writing off ACC teams if they get one
loss exactly exactly.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
And then you got people like Clay Travis out here
talking about some well, do you do you really believe
SMU could beat Alabama or Georgia or Tennessee.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
It's not about belief.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Yes, do you? Did you if I told you before
the season that Banned was gonna beat Alabama, would you
believe that that Arkansas was gonna beat Tennessee? No? Would
you have believed that Kentucky was going to give Georgia
all it could handle in Florida too? Would you have
believed that? Absolutely not. So there's a lot of things
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that you didn't believe that actually did happen.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Honestly, Like at this point, for people who feel for
people who feel that way, go do your own thing.
Just go away, go be like if you want to
make the rest of college football the new FCS whatever,
but don't like, don't have us around just to exclude us.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Oh that and that's what RHT Lashley was talking about.
And I loved him for that. I thought that he
made a great point. He was talking about the ACC
and he was like, Yo, the league has has a
chance to have a winning record versus the SEC this year.
They did last year, and we're sitting here just pooh
(05:07):
poohing the league and all the metrics say that these
teams are good. Now here's the thing that I find interesting. Right,
Let's say that Colorado ends up in the Big Twelve
Championship against BYU. Right, and they don't play in the
regular season, So twelve to zero BYU, who's now ranked
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six in the College Football playoff. Imagine a world where
Colorado and BYU play in the Big Twelve Championship. Colorado wins,
Let's say they win in a close game, you know that,
and that means Colorado gets an automatic birth. So you
know what that means.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Ralph, Right, I switched to a difference, So you know what.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
That means, Right, Ralph, what's gonna happen to either BYU
or Miami or whoever or Indiana? They're gonna get pushed
out of the College football Playoffs. That's what's going to
happen if Colorado or SMU ends up winning. Well, if
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SMU ends up winning, the acc ACC is only getting
one team in because they've been painted as the one
bid league. And after all of the election talk and
the election, So, Ralph, after all of the election talk,
you know, Harris Trump everything, we thought it was over,
(06:38):
but now the propaganda has continued in college football. You
got people caping for whoever they're voting for and whoever
they want in and they have determined predetermined. The ACC
is only a one bid league, so is the Big twelve.
We got to get four Big ten teams in, four
SEC teams in, and then the group of five teams,
(07:00):
so that leaves nine and then the other three y'all
can y'all can fight for.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
It makes sense to me. I mean, I I don't know.
I'm still stuck on this. You know, RHT Lashley, you
know you must be talking about the fact that Clemson
still has the South Carolina game yep at the end
of the year.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
And if they I mean, if they win that game,
that's just that, you know, are we going to hear
from these same people if the A has an overall
winning record against the SEC for the second year in
a row, right with with Florida State being completely out
of commission. Yeah, they didn't even help this time.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
They did nothing. They did nothing to help. They were
they were actually a net negative.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
They could have taken the year off.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
They did take the year off.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
The Florida State sabbatical.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Yes, So I find it very interesting because people get
to talk they talk about resumes. They're like, who is
Penn State beat? What are we talking about? They can't
beat anybody, and maybe Penn State can't because they don't
win big time games. But if you look at their
resume and Texas's resume, their resume is actually better than
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Texas's if we're being honest, because Texas is number three.
They're eight and one. They lost by fifteen to Georgia.
That was a beat up. They got no current ranked wins,
strength to schedule fifty six strength the record ten. Penn
State eight and one, lost by seven to Ohio State,
no ranked wins, strength to schedule thirty strength the record five.
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But they're not complaining. All they see is four big
ten teams ranked in the top five, and they're like,
we're where are teams? This is the new normal season.
Y'all ain't dominant like that no more. And they're like, well,
the conference is so competitive. But I thought it was
so competitive even when Georgia and Alabama were running through
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the conference. I thought it was still so competitive. Oh.
Now with the transfer portal, n IL rosters are getting
a little bit dinner and now they're starting to understand
what it's like to be cannibalizing yourself.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Yeah, I mean, we're we're packed twelve cast off so
I'm very curious as to why the thing you hated
about me is now the thing you like about yourself.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
And I am calling the committee a bunch of big
ten and and sec homers, yes, because like I look
at Penn State right now, and I'm like, that is
an overrated team. It's an extraordinarily overrated team.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Yeah. I actually think in Indiana would put the screws
to Penn State.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Absolutely, yeah, and that that shouldn't be. Indiana's resume is
better than Penn State's right now, it just.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Is well and and then but here's the problem, and
this is not just the committee's fault, because I'm making
a point, and we make it a point to like
try to be honesty brokers and realize biases. And all
year we've been talking about strip the names off, strip
the names off, because if Indiana was doing what they
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were doing, and they were Ohio State, or they were
Michigan or they were Alabama, they be number one in
the nation, even over Oregon right now. And we have
to like, people aren't used to seeing that Indiana is good.
They're not used to that, so it doesn't feel so
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it's a natural, like there's no way that they're that good,
same way with SMU. There's no way they're that good,
same way with BYU, even though BYU has the most
ranked wins out of anybody in the top twenty five
right now. But we're we're not sure about them, even
though I don't think that they're the most talented team,
but they keep winning. This auto matters.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Well.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
But now though even.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Even I'm even I'm skeptical BYU because they're winning ugly.
But then I have to look at and say, the
teams ranked ahead of them, are all of their wins
pretty really outside of Oregon? No, yeah, not Ohio State.
Ask Ohio State fans about that Nebraska game and they
will have a full on anxiety attack and.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
They You are right about that. That's a fact. Speaking
of coaches that are under a little bit of pressure,
and all their games haven't or even all their wins
haven't been pretty. It is Kirby Smart. So he called
Jake Pope an idiot, only to apologize the next day.
What do you think about that?
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Okay, So there's something like incredibly ironic about Kirby Smart
receiving this information which he already knew. He got asked
about it, but he already knew about it, calling the
kid an idiot, and then the next day coming out
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and saying, I probably shouldn't have said that. He was
just being understandably emotional at the time, And then I
hope somewhere in the recesses of Kirby Smart's brain it
registered to him that when put in a situation where
he had the opportunity to act in a measured response
or act emotionally, he chose to be emotional exactly, or
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if your standard, if your standard is to not act
with emotion, not be reactive, but to uphold a standard
in the way you behave in the context of what's
surrounding you, Jake Poche should have realized that they just lost.
Doesn't matter if you randomly saw family friends who you
love in the aftermath of a child's game, you should
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not look happy. That is the judgment that everybody has
passed on Jake Pope. It's an understandable one. I think
maybe we're taking things a little too serious, but it
is what it is. If you're saying that he should
have understood everything that was going on around him and
acted in a way that denied his own personal urges,
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and desires in order to respect the context. But when
you're putting that same opportunity, you call your player an
idiot something you never did, something you never did. When
Jalen Carter helped get one of your other players killed,
he was.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
And though, and they're players that have been arrested and
all this. Hey man, this is no idiots. Yeah, none
of they're all They're all kids that we gotta you know,
they're all kids that we gotta help. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
I don't know. I don't know about this. I hope
he learned something about himself. I hope he did. Did he?
I don't. He makes thirty six thousand dollars a day, George,
every day, every day that he wakes up, he's making
thirty six thousand dollars.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
That's a good gig. I need that, need that.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
But if you see somebody who you love and they
love you, and you didn't expect to see them, and
you're on the field after a child's game and they're
already happy because they're team won, and you smile, you're
an idiot. Real cool, real cool culture we built for
ourselves out here, they're just getting easier and easier to
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root against. And I think he's an awesome coach and
a great motivator and a hell of a talent collector
and a good developer of football players and a great
developer of assistant coaches. You've benefited from that. But yeah,
this is dumb thing that he said, and he should
feel done. Maybe you should feel like an idiot.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Oh that's a fact, all right. Next thing up, Matt Ruhle,
Nebraska head coach. He defended his officer coordinator Marcus Saderfield
and then demoted him for recent consultant Dana Hogerson. Why
would fans believe anything a coach says at this point?
(15:13):
This is funny to me because the Nebraska is ranked
ninety nine in total offense at three hundred and fifty
four yards a game. They're also ranked one hundredth in
scoring offense and only scoring twenty three point six points
a game. And Dylan Ryola, their young quarterback, he's had
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a rough go at it the last few few games.
And it was all after the baby Mahomes thing started.
Because we're remember they put that promo up. It was
before one of the it was like three games ago.
They were doing a big Neon kickoff and they were
like and baby Mahomes, And I was like, no, no, no,
don't do that. Don't do that. You're setting the kid
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up for it disaster. This is worse than the announcer
because he's only a freshman. Nebraska is up and coming.
They're not good yet. You are setting him up for failure.
And I met the kid a bunch of times. Him
and my kid are friends. I just know that when
your costplay Mahomes like he is right right now, you're
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not being yourself and he's got to step into who
he is and his own individuality. And once he understands
that part of it, because yes, it's dope that Mahomes
is your idol, that's who you have, that's who you
pattern yourself out of. You train with him all of
those things. But in that he's got to find himself.
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And once he does that, I think the kid's gonna
be fine.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Yeah. I mean you probably got to do something because
he has what one touchdown pass in the last four games.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Yes, and a bunch of interceptions.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
And this is a kid who's at four high schools
in three years. He was committed to three different colleges. Uh,
he'll move, he'll move. So you got yes, really he
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was at He he played high school football in three
different states.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
That's his dad's alma mater though.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
But he had the option to commit to Nebraska at
any given time, and he chose Ohio State, and then
he chose Georgia. He'll move.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
You can't.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
You can't go there as the number one overall recruit
out of high school and not produce when you're on
the field. That's that's gonna get blamed on somebody. He'll move,
so you you have to do something to show him
that you're serious. The funny thing is just the order
that this happened in because they have a game on
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November two where they lose. On November fourth, Matt Rule
does media and he defends Marcus Sadderfield. One day later,
they bring in Dana Holgerson from TCU. I've never seen
a consultant jump teams in season before.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
That was wild yep.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
And then they're on they're on a bye week. They're
on a bye week right now, so it's not like
Marcus Saddlefield had another opportunity to screw up. Yeah, which
which means that when Matt Rule came out and defended
Marcus Sadderfield, he already had his mind made up on
making a change.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Yep. Oh oh, because they like, if you look look
at the last few games against Ucla Ohio State, Indiana
and Rutgers, that's kind of where the Wills fell off
is he hasn't thrown an intercept. Well, he's only thrown
one touchdown in the last four games, and he's throwing
six picks. So the competition has stepped up. I mean,
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I guess the defenses have stepped up the last three
weeks against Ucla Ohio State in Indiana. But I also
think that man, it's just tough, dude, Like it's tough
to start as a true freshman. And I know a
lot of kids think that, oh man, I got to
start as a true freshman and all of this, but
it's a lot to that and if they don't and remember,
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Rowler was like, we can still win here, and sometimes
like Caleb Williams when he first got to the NFL,
he was like, oh, we ain't gonna punt a lot
around here, Like I know how to win. You don't
know shit from Chiolah. You've never been here. You don't
know what it's like to win in the NFL. You
don't know what it's like to win in college. It's
harder than you think. And they're getting a rude awakening
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right now.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Yeah, And honestly, like the pressure is on Nebraska because
they they've been on the verge of clinching a bowl
for a month and there's there's a real chance that
they don't do it, and so they got to be
getting desperate. Like we've talked about on this sho show before,
and we've talked about privately. You know, I would drive
down to Columbia to see Spencer Ratler play, yeah, as
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I only lived two hours north of there, and I
would call you after those games and I would say,
this is the worst offense I've ever seen in my life.
And you'd be like, well, they just beat Texas A
and M And I'm like, it does not, Matt, Like
it's the way that it's run. It's either it's either
Spencer Ratler drops back fifteen yards to be able to
throw a bomb to Xavier Legette or he just working
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screens on the outside. There's no nuance to it. And
it was awful. And Nebraska bringing in Marcus Sadderfield. I
didn't think that that was going to be good for
Dylan Royola because they're similarly not super mobile with a
big arm. And you and I have had a lot
of conversations about what Dylan Royola does not do well,
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and that's escape pressure or get rid of the football,
and so I thought it was going to be a disaster.
What is very interesting to me is Daniel Horgson is
an air raid guy. You're gonna switch the air raid
in the middle of the season.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Yeah, And Nebraska is not set up to two air
raid like, they don't have big.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
It's gonna be fascinating, definitely. And I wonder if it's
a long term move. I wonder if Holgerson like this
is where he's gonna gonna lock down. Yeah, I don't know.
I'm I. I am very interested about what's happening there.
But as far as like can we can we you know,
believe anything Matt Rule says, if we're out here believing coaches,
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we made a huge mistake.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
That's a fact. What do you think are the downstream
effects of the new roster sized limitations in college football?
So we we know that that two point eight billion
dollar house versus the n cua A settlement is not
finalized yet, and I actually think it's further away than
(21:55):
people think that it is because there's gonna be more
and more lawsuits and they're changing the roster sizes, so
they're dropping from an average roster size in FBS of
one twenty one to one oh five, but they're upping
the scholarship limit from eighty five where you can go
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all the way to one oh five. Teams like Georgia
said they're staying at eighty five because obviously that impacts
how much nil that you have to pay. It's a lot,
you know, there's a lot of being counters trying to
figure this whole thing out right right now. And this
impacted my nephew in terms of because he's a baseball
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player committed to Cal and then when they dropped the
roster sizes, that changed his situation. So now there have
been other kids who have been impacted the exact same
same way, and I'm wondering what are gonna be the
un intended consequences in college football because the roster sizes
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is being a dropping down from one to from one
oh five to from one twenty one to one oh five.
That means less walk ons because from eighty five to
one twenty one was all walk Ons and now dropping
to one oh five, but then increasing the amount of scholarships.
I don't know how that benefits college football, because the
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walk Ons are very important.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
You're about to spill a secret.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
What's that?
Speaker 2 (23:39):
What the walk Ons are used for?
Speaker 1 (23:42):
What do you mean practice?
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Well, if you're on the football team, you got a
team GPA, right.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Oh yes, oh yeah, yes, yes, that is it. That
is a good point.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
You gotta do academic progress rate.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Yes, yep, yep, that good old APR. I didn't even
think about that, Ralph. And but but you are one
hundred percent right. A lot of the walk Ons, like
the vast majority of walk Ons, the overwhelmed that they
graduate at a much higher rate than the scholarship players,
except that like Stanford, like Northwestern. So yeah, so that
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means some of these APR rates are gonna fall. And
truthfully so, I've had some conversations with some with some
people at some schools, and that's actually one of the
things that they are highly concerned about right now, is
that their graduation rates are going down a lot with
the advent of the transfer portal, because players are more
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trying to stay eligible and then when they transfer credits
get lost messed up, and then they're not graduating nearly
at the rate that they were. So that is highly concerning.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
So this is my question. Then, like, what is like
Ring of Honor stuff gonna look like five ten years
down the road.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Oh my gosh, Okay, pro I'm glad you brought that
up because I saw a video today about Dylan Gabriel
at Oregon. They were talking to It was basically like
a Heisman video comparing him with Marcus and all of
this stuff. It was a school video, and I was like, so,
if he wins a Heisman Trophy, where does he stand
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in Oregon? The Oregon Pantheon? If he wins a Heisman
Trophy and a national championship, where does he go. He's
only been there, he would have been been there for
less than for barely more than a year, for like
a year and like two weeks by the time the
national championship happens. So he's gonna get a trophy there
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because obviously he played there, but he would have spent
more time in Oklahoma and UCF than he spent at Org. Yeah,
so does he go in the Ring of Honor? I mean,
obviously he's going to get a place there because of
a Heisman Trophy, and you are and the first national championship, Bro,
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you are going to be beloved there.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Yeah, it's I don't know, I wonder about stuff like
this when you know, because you talk about this all
the time. Everybody in the NBA makes the whole of fame, right, Yeah,
what team is Paul George going to represent there? Nobody
likes that man, So that's what we're that's what we're
entering in there.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
And the fact that he's that he could be a
Hall of Famer is ridiculous. That that's a whole nother thing.
Like he's a very good player, but nothing like anyways, Yeah,
I can't even I can't even fathom Paul George as
a high like that should not be so. But but
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he is a very good player. But still do you
think but you do.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
You think we're gonna see like some really really good
group of six teams because of this? What do you
mean more three star high schoolers go into like Toledo.
I would have room for them.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Oh no, But but thing is is it gonna be?
I mean, it's gonna be room for them because they
it's not like they're reducing the scholarship number. They're actually
increasing it, so there are more players who can get
scholarships coming out of high school.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Yeah. I think it's just a wait and see thing
for me. I don't know what the downstream effects are
gonna be. I know that there's gonna be a lot
less people who I think probably play football after high
school than there used to be. But it's a lot
of other sports being affected by this as well.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
For sure. All right, next this one up. Uh, there
seemed to be an increased amount of students throwing objects
onto the field. Is it even possible to stop that?
So we've had incidents where, you know, Texas Tech was
throwing like they were throwing tortillas at Colorado and they were,
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and Joey McGuire had to get on the mic and
ask students to stop trying to throw it. Utah hit
a BYU cheerleader in the face with a water bottle.
Clemson an LSU fans through trash on the field. Texas
was throwing trash And this is why you can't let
people get away with stuff. The only way to stop
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this is to make an example out of them. Kids
you throw stuff on the field, you're kicked out of school.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
I was wondering if you're going to go there, if
you were going to relate it to their actual like
academic status.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Yes, or you are banned from games and if you're
not a student, we are pressing charges. Yeah, we are
pressing charges because the only way to stop that because
the the Texas fans, they got a call overturned and
(29:14):
so now fans are like, okay, cool, nothing nothing happened
to those people. So cool, we'll love do it. But
have a couple of people be made an example of.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Yeah, I like it, I like it, but I you know,
I didn't love Texas Texas student section going to war
with Colorado like that, and Colorado invites it, like they
want that energy, They want to taunt the crowded, they
want to flash to watch, they want to have theon
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junior film it so they could package it for content,
like they want the conflict. But when you're getting hit
with tortillas, you know what's to stop somebody from throwing
something else? And like you said in the in the
BYU game, by you cheer coach got hit in the
face with a bottle. Yeah, from a from a Utah fan.
Now you got you got your guy Joey Maguire getting
(30:11):
on the mic in the middle of the game screaming
at the students to stop throwing stuff. You had lsu
throwing things. Now it feels like it's like yeah, and
and I thought that consequences in Texas is like you
have to identify everybody, yep, and you I mean you
can now if I went to a Charlotte Hornet's game
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last year to see lebron play, and afterward I got
an email from the Charlotte Hornets that said, do you
want to see yourself in your seat?
Speaker 1 (30:41):
WHOA?
Speaker 2 (30:42):
And I was like, what the hell does that mean?
So I click on it and they filmed the whole
crowd and they put out a so you can get
on there and you can look at which is a
little scary, like if you're sitting three rows away from
a from you know, if you're unstable mentally, you're sitting
three rows away from an attractive female and you know
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you want to find out more about her. You can
jump on that app and zoom in on her in
the stands, Like I I don't know how I feel
about the minority report future that we're living in. But
the technology certainly exists to identify anybody who does something stupid.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Yeah, no, you are one hundred percent right, one undred
percent right. If you were a college football general manager,
how would you allocate the twenty and a half million
dollar revenue share cap for the players? How much would
go to the quarterback? And what percentage do you dedicate
to incoming freshmen? This is easy for me. Anybody worried
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about twenty and a half million dollars better worried about that.
Do you know why? Because we still got boosters outside
who will give deals.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Who is we?
Speaker 1 (31:51):
We as in colleges Ohio State, Oregon, Alabama, Hell, Boise State.
You to everybody has boosters that own businesses. Oh ay, now,
all right, so we only got seven hundred and fifty
thousand dollars for our quarterback. So how about let's actually
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bump that because we need to get these other kids
paid a little bit of something too. So we'll bump
the quarterback down to five hundred thousand. But then the
car dealership over over here, they'll kick in another one
hundred and fifty and then he'll get a deal with
with with a Rainbow Enterprises in the city to do
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a commercial for them. That's another one hundred and fifty
and then we'll like they'll they'll just piece mill it
together from the community, which are gonna be legal nil deals.
So the idea of a salary cap is not It
would be like in the NBA Lebron James making fifty
(32:54):
million dollars, right, who is Lebron James real employer, Like,
he's actual employer.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Nike, Nike.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
He makes more money from Nike than he ever will
in the NBA. So it would be like the NBA
putting a cap on Lebron James endorsement deals with Taco
Bell and you know, in Sprite and whoever else. Because
it's unfair to competition, you can't. So it is still
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gonna be an arms race of who can get what.
The difference is the school can pay some of this
money out instead of it being sorted through the collectives
and outside it, which I do like better because then
there's some transparency and accountability when kids don't live up
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to what they agreed to, and when they do, they
should still be paid.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
So how would you allocate twenty and a half million
at your disposal as a college football GM.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
So freshmen are getting a base pay right of our
top freshmen, right, so we are going to rank them down.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
What percentage of that twenty and a half are you
dedicating to incoming high school freshmen, not transfer portal people.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
But let's say I get twenty five freshmen coming in
probably two and a half million dollars.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
So an average of one hundred k per freshman.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Yes, but everybody not getting one hundred k, somebody's probably
gonna get too. Yeah, So I'll probably say two and
a half million to four million two freshmen, and then
the rest of it is going to everybody else, and
there's going to be a base amount of pay, Like
if you're a star, there's gonna be a base amount
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of pay that you get. You're an All American, here's
what you're gonna get. Here's that, you know what I mean.
So we're gonna and that's what Georgia is essentially doing now.
And that makes sure you don't mess your roster up
because you're trying to I mean, look at the Bryce
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Underwood's situation with with Michigan. Kid from Michigan committed to
LSU and now Michigan is talking about ponying up ten
and a half million dollars. Now, granted, I am happy
for the kid, happy for him, get that get that money,
because I can't even imagine what that's gonna look like
in twenty thirty. Oh it's still less.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
It's still less than the deal that Florida tried to
work out for Jane Roshata.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
Yeah. And do you know why I care about twenty thirty?
Speaker 2 (35:54):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (35:54):
I know so, I know so so so a twenty
thirty some more So I'm like, get get your money.
But in the also, I'm like, wouldn't it make more
sense to just go pay John Materier like two million dollars?
Speaker 2 (36:17):
Yeah? Well, Hey, if your twenty thirty needs a theme
song from my twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
Hey, I'm not I'm not mad mad at.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
My twenty twenty seven could write your twenty thirty some
entrance music.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
I like it. Bro we going full oh, bro, whole
marketing campaign starts in twenty twenty five. We got five
years to wrap that thing up.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
Question the generational prospect of me working for you, my
kids working for your kids, their kids working for their kids.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
Hey, bro, every everybody gonna be everybody gonna be eating
good these are some big ass table scraps. Hey bro Okay,
So who are your current Coach of the Year candidates
right now? Because this one is interesting to me? Right
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because Coach of the Year. I don't think that you're
gonna get guys like Dan Lanny and Mario Christobaul getting
coach of the year love because it's hard to get
coach of the year love when your rosters are so
good and there were expectations.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Well, the money has to factor in now, your your
NIL spend has to factor into how good of a
coaching job you did. In my opinion, yes, sure, I
feel like I feel like it's it's wrapped up. If
Indiana exists and they do and they hit ten wins,
it's really really hard for me to see anybody getting
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anything other than Kurt Signetti. That's that's really I know.
RG three came out and said the story of the
year deon, and to a certain extent, I agree. Even
following a team that is also seven and two and
was picked below Colorado.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
Yes, I was gonna say Kenny Kenny Dillingham over at ASU.
They were picked to finish last in the conference. I
know Indiana was picked to finish close to last, and
and Kalani Sataki.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
Too, hm hmm, yeah, Kilanie Sataki for sure? Oh sure?
Speaker 1 (38:37):
Are you in case? You know?
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
So if I had to pick one right now, right,
if you were like George, cast your vote right now,
I would cast it for Kalanie Sataki. I'm sorry for uh,
for Kurt Singhetti if you asked me. If let's say
that Indiana beats If Indiana beats Ohio State in two weeks,
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it's guaranteed, Kirk kurtzing.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
Get Yeah, that's a rap. Probably.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
If if they lose to Ohio State and Colorado wins
out and gets into the College Football Playoff, it's Dion.
If Arizona State has all the things break for them
and they finish ten and two and play for the
Big Twelve Championship, it's Kenny Dillingham.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
They only need two things to happen outside of winning out.
What's that Colorado has to lose once. Okay, that's not unthinkable,
and West Virginia has to lose once. That's it.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
That's totally need, that's unbelievable. And both of those things
are highly highly possible, Yeah, highly possible. All right, next thing,
all right, so Oklahoma came out in back. Brent Venables
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Florida said that Billy Napier is safe. Do you think
that schools are starting to exercise more patients with head coaches? No,
I don't. The problem is the buyouts are too big.
They don't want to exercise patients. If USC could fire
Lincoln Riley for under twenty million dollars right now, they
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would if they look like, if Lincoln Riley's buyout was
like ten million dollars, he would be gone. But it's
eighty eight million dollars. Billy Napier is twenty five or
twenty six, And I actually think it's smarter to keep
Billy Napier. But at the same time, this is also
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happening in the same year that you're getting the story
that we talked about first about the college football the
budgets to twenty and a half million dollars the revenue sharing,
So that's a big deal too. Brent Venables, if his
buyout was because they gave him an extension, his buyout
now is like forty four million dollars. And you think
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about the biggest buyouts paid of all time, it is
Jimbo Fisher at seventy six million dollars and then the
next one. Do you know who the next one is
the next biggest buyout ever paid in college football?
Speaker 2 (41:28):
Well, it wasn't, Mel Tucker. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
Tell me Gus miles on at Auburn for twenty point
eight million dollars.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
God damn.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
So that's fifty six more million dollars for Jimbo. And
I don't think that that set a precedent. I actually
think that with the new salary cap and everything else,
I think that they're going to be trying to be
more judicious with coaches contracts because LSU is not exactly
had with Brian Kelly right right now, but he's owed
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so much damn money. USC's not happy with Lincoln Riley.
Oklahoma's not happy with Brent Vinnables. But the problem is
is that their contracts are so big that it makes
it like, if you're USC, you gotta wait five more
years before a biout is even close to reasonable at
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thirty three million. So it's like it's like the Deshaun
Watson contract and people asking why did the Browns keep
paying him playing him? Because the only hope is that
you try to fix it, like fixing it is the
only hope because the way the contract is, you can't
get out of it.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
Hey, I got a I got a twenty fifteen niss
On Quest, twenty fifteen niss On Quest. It is paid off.
It has been giving me problems lately. One of the
one of the sly door handles came off and it's
been shaken a little bit when we drive it. We
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took it in to get the new door handle put on,
and they came back and said, this needs thirty seven
hundred dollars worth of work today to day. And you
know it's it's ten years old. It's paid off. We
put one hundred and sixty thousand miles on it. I've
taken this on five five thousand mile road trips. We
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got a lot out of it. Could we use a
new vehicle? Sure, sure, But anything that we buy new
that's going to be seven eight hundred dollars a month
in payments. So I did the math and I was like,
all right, five months of a new car payment to
get us through another year with this van. Or we
dropped seventy k to bring in a new van to
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just get us from point A to point B. It
made the ends to fix this van and that and
and the and the fact that, like you know, us,
getting a new car would be like paying a buyout.
Speaker 1 (44:01):
For our for your quest.
Speaker 2 (44:05):
So that brings me to an article that you sent
my way this week from on three that said that
the smart financial decision for a lot of coaches that
you're unsatisfied with is going to actually be to reinvest
in them instead of fire them. And how did it
say that we were going to reinvest in these.
Speaker 1 (44:24):
Coaches firing coordinators offensive and defensive coordinators.
Speaker 2 (44:30):
So there's only so many of those to go around.
So what's going to happen to the salaries of these
offensive and defensive coordinators?
Speaker 1 (44:39):
Oh, they are still going to be about a million dollars.
It's just it's just a lot easier to stomach a
three million dollar buyout for a coordinator than it is
eighty million dollars.
Speaker 2 (44:51):
Well, but so you don't think Brenda Marion's price tag
just went through the roof?
Speaker 1 (44:55):
Oh yes, oh oh oh you're talking about people? Yes, yes, yes, yes, dude,
So Brand and Marion should be because I do believe
there's gonna be less big time head coaching jobs open.
But yes, Brandon Marion should be making probably a million
and a half to two million next year because there
should be a bunch of teams that are after him.
Speaker 2 (45:19):
He could be making more than Barry Otom to do
the same job he's doing now.
Speaker 1 (45:24):
Yes, And would you take that Oklahoma job if you
or him? Yes, would you take usc? Actually? I don't
think Lincoln's ever gonna get give up to play call
and duty or anything. But yeah, the truth.
Speaker 2 (45:40):
I worry though, because if you if you're that next
dude at offensive coordinator and you go and you don't
perform because maybe your head coach doesn't want to give
up control or change styles or whatever, then you end
up kind of like in a I mean, you know
Josh gattis right.
Speaker 1 (45:57):
Yeah, over in Maryland, Dude, he's running a whole different
style of offense than he was at at Miami, which
is wild.
Speaker 2 (46:04):
But he had to evolve because everybody said he was
the next big thing, and then he went into these
situations with head coaches that don't actually like to change,
and then all of a sudden his reputation is damaged
and instead of being a head coach somewhere, he's an
offensive coordinator at Maryland and so that's what I worry
about for these these coordinators. They got to think long term.
(46:25):
They might be taking a big paycheck to go be
an emergency solution for a team that doesn't want to
pay twenty five million dollars to get rid of Brent Venables.
But if the offense doesn't look good in year one,
then all of a sudden, you went from being a
rising star at OC to what just another dude?
Speaker 1 (46:45):
Yep. Yeah, life comes at you fast sometimes, and that's
why he got to strike when the iron is hot,
all right. So next thing up, So Bill O'Brien, he's
been known to rub players the wrong way. He just
bitched his starting quarterback Thomas Castlianos over at Boston College
(47:07):
and Casianos, who's stuck with the coaching change after coming
to BC from UCF. He got benched and then he
left the team to cool off. But now it seems
that it's permanent. And I think that this kid is
going to be a big name in the in the portal.
And when you look at his stats on the on
the season, he's completing sixty one percent of his passes,
(47:32):
eighteen touchdowns, five interceptions. Is he an elite passer. No,
is he a good passer? Pretty good, but he's going
to be sought after in the transfer portal. Who do
you side with in this drama?
Speaker 2 (47:52):
Who do you side with in this drama? That just
got Oregon their starter next year?
Speaker 1 (47:58):
Na, Oregon organ are got they started on their roster
right now? Okay, Okay, yeah they are. They love the
Nova Sad kid and they love Dante more so it
will be one of them for sure.
Speaker 2 (48:10):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (48:11):
Like, I do not see a world where they bring
in another transfer portal starter this year. I don't That
would be highly surprising. High.
Speaker 2 (48:29):
I don't love this. I didn't love it when Charlie
Brewer did it. Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (48:35):
I don't like quitting in the middle of the season.
There's still a couple of weeks left. Just finish out
the season. You're already gonna hop into transfer portal any anyway,
Just keep going to your meetings, keep showing up. They
got SMU North Carolina and Pitt who knows if the
kid that he starts, he may not even make it
(48:56):
through two snaps, and you would have given up more
opportunities to play. I don't like that. Finish out the season.
I understand that you're frustrated, you're upset, you think you
were wrong finish out the season. Man, me, it would
be different if there was some advantage to not, But
(49:17):
there's no advantage to not.
Speaker 2 (49:21):
Yeah, I mean you know a little bit about the kid.
I've met him, I've interviewed him. If somebody called me
and said, like, should I pursue him in the portal,
I'm not gonna hesitate. I'm just gonna be like, yes, absolutely,
Like this is the this is a type of college
(49:42):
quarterback who will move the chains.
Speaker 1 (49:44):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (49:46):
He can run. He didn't run a lot this year,
but he can run well.
Speaker 1 (49:49):
Yeah, and if you can develop him as a passer,
you're gonna have a fantastic opportunity to have success.
Speaker 2 (50:00):
Yeah. I don't know. For me, it's like a credit
debit thing, Like I give him credit for sticking because
that was a tough situation that whole team could have bailed. However, Yeah,
it's not a good look. It's not a good look.
Speaker 1 (50:16):
No. No, in fact, it's a terrible look. Terrible.
Speaker 2 (50:20):
Yeah, and he should be punished by being made to
play next year in Laramie, Wyoming.
Speaker 1 (50:27):
Oh yeah, of course, I bet I bet you would
love him playing in Laramie, Wyoming. You're damn yeah, But
you guys though, I'm George Reister, he's Ralph Amson. This
is the College Football Apostles, you guys. Make sure you
guys check back next week. Check out all the stuff
on the Unaffray Show. Peace out, Catch you guys next
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