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Speaker 1 (00:01):
I'm George Reiser, He's Ralph Amson, and this is Unafraid
Shows college Football Apostles. It is week zero. It is
finally here. There are no more Saturday sleeps. College football
is here and upon us. We got four games this
weekend and we're gonna talk about those. We are also
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going to talk about and make our Week zero picks.
We gotta talk qb ones because there have been a
bunch of qb ones named across the country and the
impact that that's going to have on conference championships, on
those teams and everywhere else. And general managers in college
football are becoming a thing, like well, I'm sorry, they're
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not even becoming a thing. They are a thing. And
now these guys are showing that they are very valuable.
And we have one that's making almost a million dollars.
Now that's how valuable that they are. And the lasting
Kirk Farnce suspended week one against Illinois State over at Iowa.
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And who would have thought Kirk parents getting suspended for
recruiting violations. All right, cool, we'll talk about that. You guys,
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those things. All right, Ralph, we got to talk about
these qb ones because there were a bunch of qb
ones named and probably the most I'd probably say the
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biggest one in terms of being impactful and where people
where there was at least some element of doubt was
over at USC, where you have Miller Moss. He wins
the job over Jadeen Myvia, the kid who transferred in
from UNLV to USC. And this is gonna be the
first time that Lincoln Riley has a quarter Now, Miller
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Moss can move, but he can't move like Baker, like
Kyler Murray, like Jalen Hurts War like Caleb Williams. So
is this going to stress USC? Because you know their
defense has been pitiful, they have upgraded the defensive staff.
Is this gonna be enough to put USC where Lincoln
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Riley said they were ahead of schedule on schedule.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Now, I don't think so. I mean, you saw the
way that offense I think was supposed to look in
the bowl game. You and I have had a lot
of conversations about Kayleb Williams. I love Kayleb Williams. I
think because a unicorn talent wise, he went off schedule
unnecessarily quite a bit, quite a bit, And if you've
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been watching Hard Knocks, I thought he made one of
the more profound statements I've ever heard on that show.
When Matt Eberflus is sitting with him, I think it's
episode three, and he just says, he runs him through
a few plays on film and he said, what did
you learn this week? And Caleb Williams says, practice is
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a lot harder than the game. And I feel like
he probably wasn't held accountable at USC for all those
times going off schedule, because when it works, it works.
That's not going to work in the NFL. It just doesn't.
It can work, but it's not like a sustainable solution.
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You have to play on schedule. You have to play
within the offense, and then you have to let your
playmaking ability and instincts take over when it is necessary.
Josh Allen had to learn that a lot of people
have had to learn that. But I looked the way
that USC looked in that Bowl game with Miller Moss
and it says to me, Oh, this is what that
offense was supposed to look like. This is what timing
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with the receivers are supposed to look like. So in
all honesty, I think Jad and Maveo made a huge
mistake even leaving Brendan Marian's offense and UNLV in the
first place.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
You shouldn't wait till this year. Waited till this year,
go get more experience playing in it. But if he
ends up the starter after this year, wait, no, is
this Miller's last year or does Miller have one more
after this?
Speaker 2 (04:09):
If Miller, if Miller balls out, because Miller's been this
is his fourth year there, okay, and as you pointed out,
so he's still got Miller Moss Miller. Moss has only
thrown ninety two live passes in the last four combined years,
so he's probably itching to like just prove it and
then not say any longer than he has to move on.
So Maveya could be in a great situation. And if
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he gets hurt, like they just they are gluttonous over
there with the quarterbacks, it feels like they always got
a good, if not great quarterback, and I think they
have two awesome options. But I think we got a
preview of what the offense was supposed to look like
last year, and I think they made the right call.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Well were Now both games are not always the greatest,
you know, indicator, but that should give Miller Moss a
lot of confidence in US.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Here's an indicator because you've had experience here. Miller Moss
had Bishop Alimaney as a contender in southern California when
he was a junior, and they have been maybe the
worst team in all of California in the four years since.
So let's let's use the fall off of his old
high school as more.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
I'll let you and take that one, buddy, all right.
Now another QB one the kid who left usc Malachi Nelson,
who people were enamored with in high school. Thought he
was the number one player in the country by some people.
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He ends up at usc US, he's not in love
with his work, ethic not in love with him, and
he ends up in the transfer portal. Nobody fights, and
he ends up in the transfer portal, goes to Boise.
A lot of people thought that was a layup for
him to start there because it's a step down from USC. Well,
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he lost the starting job to Maddox Madden, a under
six foot guy that doesn't look I mean, he may
turn out to be a really good quarterback, but he
doesn't look good getting off the bus. And coaches a
lot of times are enamored with players when they look
good getting off the bus, like they're like, oh my god,
I'm so excited, look at this five star come through
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and this and that, and so there's something going on
because it's not for a I've seen Malachi throw in person.
It is not for physical limitations. This is a between
the ears issue, whether it's work ethic, whether it's focused,
whether it's you know, he got there and felt like
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he was too big time and didn't put it into work.
Like something is not translating, and it's gonna take a
wake up call for him because it's not talent alone
that I'm sorry, it's not talent like physical talent that
is holding him back and that I believe Ralph shows
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and I talked about this with Tua and Brian Flores,
which Brian Flores tried to coach Tua, and you can't
coach quarterbacks. You have to develop and handle quarterbacks because
quarterback is the only position in football that you don't play.
You play wide receiver, you play offensive line, you play linebacker,
but you don't play quarterback. You are a quarterback. It's
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a lifestyle and if you can't get the lifestyle right,
it's impossible to get the football right.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
I agree. Here's what's interesting to me, And you've been
in situations that I just haven't been so contract disputes.
When you're with the Jaguars and somebody, uh, somebody is
in the middle of a contract dispute, they want more money.
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Does it affect their attitude in the locker room and
how they go about their day to day. Yes, not
play on the field.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Sometimes but not typically, But it does impact their their
attitude around the locker room, like they'll be cool with
their teammates and all of that stuff. And when it
comes to the coaches and front office, it is cold shoulder, buddy.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
It is so the rumors, and again I want to
stress that these are rumors, but the rumors are that
he wasn't delivering everything they thought they were going to
get out of him as a backup to Caleb Williams
at USC last year, and that USC wasn't delivering all
they promised to him. Yes, as so now we're running
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into an issue in college football where the stuff that
you saw in the pros could actually affect somebody's attitude
on the locker room. And then I might push back
on the national idea that it would be a layup
for Malachi Nelson to go to Boise State, and for
it to be a layup for this reason alone. He's
going to play for an offensive coordinator who runs probably
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the most complex offense that you could run, you know,
in playing for Dirk Cutter and and and Dirk could
be a thing that rhymes with his first name sometimes.
And so Malachi Nelson put him in a situation where like,
if you want to play for him, you got to
be able to handle Dirt Cutter's attitude and his schemes.
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I love that he challenged himself in that way, and
maybe it'll work itself out down the road. Some quarterbacks
do need more time to develop. But I do understand
like the microwave ready attitude and aspect of today's fans
thinking that he's a bust or something like that. We
don't know, and to go back to practice is harder
than the yeah, and to go back to practice is
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hard in the game. They might not like what they
see in practice, but they might throw him out there
and he he could be really good, So you never
really know that. That's what happens with a lot of
these quarterbacks. You wonder why QB or an offensive coordinator
don't know what they have in the building. Well, some
people just look different in practice than they do when
when they get thrown out there. So you said it,
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he's got a lot of time left. We'll see what happens.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Yeah, all right. The next one up is over at
oh Over at Arizona State, there was a big, you know,
quarterback situation. So sam Levitt is named their starter for
day one, and that means that well Jay Jade Roshata
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already transferred. That means Trenton Borgay is on the bench,
and so is Jeff Simms. This felt like a a
situation to me where Trenton Borgay is probably your best
option right now, but like not by much. And but
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sam Levitt is gonna give you multiple years and they're
trying to figure out how to you know, not just
this year, but when and keep improving for the next
couple of years. And if sam Levitt doesn't play, he's
then going to transfer, and then you have nobody in
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the building because Trenton this is his last year. So
and you know that Trenton will be okay if you
don't start him, that he's not going to pick up
and leave and transfer because he's got coaching aspirations.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Yeah, this has been fascinating to watch. Two years ago
at Arizona State, they brought in Emery Jones and they're like,
look what we got, Like this is going to be
the guy. By week five, Trent Borgay is picking up
the slack. Last year, they're like, dude, you're never gonna
believe this Jaden Rashota kid, Like, we're gonna give him
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the keys right as a freshman. By week three, Trenton
Borget is picking up the slack. This year, we got
we got Sam levit In. There's a lot of Michigan
State fans who swear that this is uh somebody that
they would have loved to have if if there wasn't
a coaching transition they didn't get Aiden Chiles. He's an
interesting kid man, Yeah, he's he is an interesting kid.
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Like he gives off a very much like a ski
movie villain vibe or like a Johnny Lawrence as a
original karate kid.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Like he said, veself, my my My leadership style is harsh.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Yeah, I was say, what.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
You just got your fam yeahsh like you're not good
enough to be harsh.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Yet we'll see they're gonna throw him out there. And
you have to I believe that you have if because
you know what you're probably gonna get in Jeff Simms
high end and low and it's a big gap. You
know what you're gonna get with Trenton Borgay and you
know he's a sixth year and you explained it to me,
like he's moving on, and why they would be motivated
to put in somebody would be a multi year starter.
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You know, they very much brought Sam Levitt into Start.
Jade Rashada knew that that's why he left, despite anything
anybody else wants to say, that's really what happened, and
so they brought Sam Levitt into Start. He didn't do
anything to fumble that bag. Now he's got to go
out against Wyoming in week one, who makes it ugly
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against everybody, and he's got to show something. You could
justify that attitude. You could justify that attitude and your
teammates will buy into it if you're winning, and if
your teammates are an accessory to your eventual greatness, which
is kind of the air that Sam Levitt carries about him.
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My teammates are an accessory to my eventual greatness. Arizona
State is a platform stepping stone to my eventual greatness.
People can deal with you, not like wanting to be
a sun devil, but wanting to use a sun devils
as you as your launching point if you're winning. If not,
this is gonna end up like twenty twenty one, twenty
twenty two, where I can imagine seeing a situation in
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where Trenton Borgez comes in and he picks up the slack.
But for for for this offense, for Marcus Arroyo, for
Kenny Dillingham, like they need this to work out really
really bad, and they're going to have three opportunities in
non conference against two tough team. Two of those teams
will probably be really tough, and we'll see, and I'm
rooting for him. I don't mind getting another Rudy Carpenter
in there. I don't as long as we're winning.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Yeah, all right. Dylan Ryola starting quarterback at Nebraska. Now
this is some people had him as the number one
player in the country for a very long time, and
he's a kid who big, strong, like he looks good
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getting off the bus. Little chubby, but but he looks
good getting off the bus in terms of hype weight
and you're like, once we get him in our weight room,
this this this like we can you know, chisel this
thing out. And he's been named the starting quarterback over
at Nebraska, Dad's alma mater. He was committed to Georgia
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for a while, ends up at Nebraska with Matt Ruhle
starting as a freshman. This is an opportunity for him.
If he comes out and plays well, this will validate
all of the previous criticisms, the questions about the three
hundred yard games in high school, how he was ranked
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so high.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
And I feel like you're talking about everything I've been saying.
I didn't see those criticisms from anybody but me. But yes, yeah,
I feel like you're talking to me right now. Two
things about Dylan Rayolo. Number one, it's not great that
he lost his starting left tackle right before the season. No,
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it is great that this schedule is soft as baby shit,
right like it.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Is, Yeah, it is. It makes it much easier to
win football games when your schedule is h is light.
If you if you will.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
So what was what was dj Huyaga La Lay's full
first year starting at Clemson. I know that it frustrated
Clemson fans because they had like the t the Trevor
Lawrence standard or whatever. But to me, that's what I
look at. If if if he can get through a
season with four hundred pass attempts, I don't think he'll
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have fifty to fifty interceptions touchdowns because Ryola doesn't throw picks.
But if he could just survive the season and throw
the ball away, because this is a kid that takes
an unbelievable amount of sex. And that was okay in
high school when your six and you're bigger than everybody else,
but when the guy hitting you six five two thirty,
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it might take a toll.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
So yeah, So they got UTEP, Colorado, Northern Iowa to
start the season, and there are two ranked teams that
they well three they have Ohio State, who will be
ranked when they play them. USC could possibly or could
possibly not be ranked, and the same thing as Iowa
at the end of the year.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
But all those come after week eight, right, yep. Getting
eight starts under your belt before things get crazy, or
seven starts under your beltfore things get crazy. This sets
up so so well for him, and I know, I
just know he's gonna succeed, and people are going to
come back to me and be like, you were the
only hater in the country on this kid. I'm not
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being a hater. He didn't throw for a lot of
yards and he got sacked a billion times. Those are
just facts. And if they protect him at the next level,
he's gonna do what he did when he was protected
in high school. He's gonna throw bombs.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
So best of luck to him. I just he I
believe that if you're the best high school player in
the country, you should destroy other high schoolers. And he
didn't do that.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Yes, that now that is fair. At Baylor, the Kwan
Finn is their starting quarterback. According to Dave Wilson and
Adam Rittenberg. He was a three year starter at Toledo
Conference USA Player of the Year. No, no, I'm sorry,
Mac and yeah so, and he replaced Blake Shapin over
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there at Baylor. And this is a situation where Baylor's
transitioning from a pro style offense to Jake Spavdol and
the spread offense. And this is everybody's last stand. This
is this is Dave A. Randa's last stand as head coach.
This is Jake Spavedol's last major opportunity as an offensive
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coordinator anytime, anytime in the near future. Like he's gotta
put something like they both this is like, this is
where you can't be conservative. This is where you gotta like, hey,
here's everything, here's here's the kitchen sink, and we gotta
throw it at you.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Six years, six years at or he's going into a
sixty year five years at Toledo, nine thousand yards rushing
and passing like ninety touchdowns. If they can't make it
with the Kwan Finn, what are they gonna do? This
is somebody who won eleven years or won eleven games
last year in the MAC. I think their only losses
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were too Illinois, which came by like two points, and
then Miami of Ohio and Wyoming in the bowl game.
All of those losses combined, I think were by a
total of twelve points. To Kwan Finn is awesome and
and if he can't get Baylor back into Bowl contention
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eight wins, you have to hit the reset. But especially
with Jake Spavital as your offensive coordinator. You know, he's
boasting that he helped, you know, get Jared Goff to
be the number one overall pick. You have to, you
have to. And I think the fact that it was
even a contest up to this point, it was no contest.
You brought in somebody who started for the last three years,
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played five years at Toledo, he was always going to
be the guy.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Yeah, that makes sense, all right? This this one is
very interesting. Well, well, this last was very interesting because
we have this one impacts San Diego State and the
University of Colorado and Dion Sanders because his officer coordinator
was Sean Lewis, team scoring over forty points a game,
he demotes him because Shader was taking so many sacks,
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even though he took a ton of sacks. After he
was no longer officer coordinator, he gets then the head
coaching job at San Diego State. Danny O'Neil was committed
to Colorado. Really apparently he was committed to Sean Lewis.
Because Sean Lewis takes the San Diego State job, he
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immediately decommits and commits to San Diego State, and now
Danny O'Neill is the starting quarterback over aj Duffy there
because aj Duffy was at Florida State first. If I'm not.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Yeah, well funny aj Duffy story.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
I feel like he was committed to like a bunch
of places.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
He was going to Arizona State and Kenny Dillingham ripped
him to Florida State while he was still there.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
So, and then Kenny Dillingham left for Oregon, left him
with Norvelle and it didn't work out, so he goes
to San Diego State. Been interesting to watch as an ASU fan.
This is crazy because Dion trusted Sean Lewis to pick
his own quarterback. He didn't micromanage the situation. Danny O'Neill said,
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when he committed to Colorado, I talked to Sean Lewis
and realized he's a really good person outside of football,
which was huge for him and his family. He thought
that he thought that Boulder was cool growing up in Indianapolis,
but it was really all about Sean Lewis. So I
think you nailed it. It makes following Danny O'Neill and
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Sewn Lewis fascinated because I don't think there's a rivalry
there I don't necessarily think there's bad blood. But every
smart college football person I'd ever talked to thinks that
Sean Lewis is a genius. And if Sewn Lewis thinks
Danny O'Neal is that dude, then you almost.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Have to mige, guy.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
You have to measure San Diego State against Colorado. You
measure everything against Colorado just because it's fun to do.
But this one in particular, we'll be watching and he's
not going to outperform Shoulder, There's no way in hell
that happens. But if he looks good, then I think
it's redemption. Obviously for Sean, his paycheck is redemption, but
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it's redemption for Sean Lewis is a football guy.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
All right. Now, let's get to these Week zero games,
because we got four games. We have Florida State versus
Georgia Tech, and that game is in Ireland in Dublin,
and we have and we also have hold On here
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we Go. We also have Montana State, New Mexico, SMU, Nevada,
Delaware State, Hawaii Ralph. Which of these games do you
think will be the best game? Not the most popular game,
but the game that we're gonna at the end of
the night be like, oh my god.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Prop, I'm the Montana State game. Can you hear me?
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Do we lose each other?
Speaker 1 (23:59):
No? I got you. So yeah. So the Montana State
game A favorites, which is and that number has climbed.
So so let's let's do that game first and then
we'll go to the Florida State Georgia Tech the Montana
State New Mexico game. I was very surprised by that line.
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Two days ago, Montana State was an eleven point favorite
as an FCS team over an FBS team, which is outrageous.
It feels like in Montana State is the number four
team in the FCS rankings. They did get one first
place vote, but you're playing New Mexico and they're support
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like that just shows that the FCS teams and the
lower end FBS teams are probably more on par than
people really want to admit that North Dakota State, South
Dakota State, Montana State, and Montana who'll be washing it
a couple of years ago, are Yeah, they can give
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some of these bottom n FBS teams the absolute business.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Yeah, at New Mexico. New Mexico's tough Danni Gonzalez went
to New Mexico. It was his alma mater, and they
fired him too because he couldn't get it right. You know,
if they end up starting Devin damp here, they're gonna
have a dual threat at quarterback. That's gonna give them
some options. But this Montana State team is really really
interesting because they averaged forty last year playing multiple quarterbacks
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due to injury, Seawn Chambers I think didn't play the
full season. So now they have this kid, I think
his Jordan name is Tommy Malott, and he never threw.
He had one game where he threw twenty four passes
last year. We averaged about eleven passing attempts last year
and mostly just ran the hell out of the ball.
He had won two three four hundred yard rushing games
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and finished the year with a one hundred and fifty
yard rushing two touchdown performance against North Dakota State. So
this might be a quick game. You might see a
lot of quarterbacks running. But the interesting thing about Montana State,
Brent Brent Vision is their their head coach. He was
Josh Allen's offensive coordinator at at Wyoming, and so that's
kind of his claim the fame. That's a great question, man,
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That's that's that's a great.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Question, one right, because you got on your resume. But
his college stats were not impressive at all. Completion percentage
was bad, yards and touchdowns weren't great.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Yeah, I mean that that. I'd be like telling somebody
you dated Angelina Jolie in high school, but you don't
show any pictures because she had like braces and head
gear or whatever.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Yeah, exactly. Hey, I was first to the party baby.
All right, So this number has climbed to thirteen and
a half. Who are you taking in this game?
Speaker 2 (27:00):
I saw you take Montana State, and I I feel
like I just want to jump on the opposite side.
I know, I know, I full touchdowns now, It's yeah,
I think stuff has changed since.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
The last time. Yeah, I gave predictions.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
You see Bronco Mendenhall losing by two touchdowns. I don't
know if I do so, I'll give New Mexico the
benefit of the doubt. I feel terrible about it.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
I do too. I do too. I'm gonna stay with
my pick.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
And you'll keep it at eleven too, because there's video
evidence that you put that out there.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Yes, I gotta keep it up eleven because this is
that's that and a half that nasty time all right now?
Oh sorry, sorry the Florida State Georgia Tech. This game
is in Dublin at nine am on Saturday. This feels
like in Florida State is a ten and a half
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point favorite. This number fell a little bit too. This
feels like upset potential or not covering potential all over
it because Florida State obviously a motion from last year
breaking in a new quarterback. Georgia Tech had a top
twenty five offense last year and has top ten returning production,
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so that means you're an older team. Florida State lost
a ton to the NFL Draft, so they're gonna be
breaking in some younger players, players that haven't necessarily played
a ton. And then you got Georgia Tech, a more
veteran team. This feels like a recipe for an upset
and this is not this still, even though I picked
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Florida State to go to the playoffs, this won't destroy
my playoff, but it does give them an acc loss,
which a little bit nerve wracking at the beginning of
the season.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
If you okay, so I'm gonna give you a stat line,
and you tell me if you think Florida State would
win cover with this stat line from Dju okay, nineteen
of thirty two, two hundred and ten yards, one touchdown,
no interceptions. Do you think that'd be enough to get
the job done?
Speaker 1 (29:21):
No?
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Okay. So that exact stat line was actually Dju's first
game of the season in twenty twenty two when he
was at Clemson going up against Georgia Tech in Atlanta.
And for the viewers and listeners to this show, I
did have a hotel in Atlanta for a kickoff for
this game because I didn't know that it was in Dublin.
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And so I gotta I gotta admit that I'm not
the smartest man alive, but when it comes to this game,
I'm I'm all in on Georgia Tech with you. Maybe
not for the upset, but definitely to cover because Georgia
Tech is a better team than they were two years
ago and I and Dju is a good quarterback. But
his first game against f BS opponents are just Power
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five opponents. His first game against Power five opponents the
last three years has been not that great. In fact,
the Georgia Tech one is probably his best ever. But
his first game against Washington State last year he looked bad.
He fifty completions. His first game the twenty twenty one
season I was at. It was against Georgia Clemson didn't score,
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like did not score. So I he is not a
guy who starts hot. He's a guy who has to
kind of warm up. He has played against this defense
to start a season before, and and you know, completed
about half his passes and and uh and only threw
one touchdown. So I think Florida State wins, but I
don't count on them to look as good as they're
going to look offensively right out of the gate.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Yep. So I'm taking Georgia Tech plus the points. All right,
Next game up SMU Nevada. SMU's favor by twenty five points.
Now and Nevada, who you know, they have had years
where they have been competitive. This does not feel like this.
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This line is a non competitive line. And I mean
that's to be nice. Brendan Lewis, who won the quarterback battle.
I mean, I guess sort of over at Nevada because
Cuba Party. He's been dealing with a shoulder injury all all.
You know, camp.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
So I gotta help you on this one. I gotta
help you on this one because Cuba Hubbard is probably
what you're thinking of. He's just a regular Chubba. He's
got the short u.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
Oh Chubba Yeah, okay, okay, Chubble chubb a party. I'm
glad let's corrected me.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
But there is one Arizona quarterback every single year, like
a quarterback from the state of Arizona, who you intentionally
mispronounced their name all year. So if you want to
stick with Cuba, we can rock.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
No. No, I'm gonna name him Chubba. I'm gonna call
him Hubba. So yeah, so Chubble Party not to be
confused with Cuba Hubbard has been He's been dealing with
his shoulder injury. He's not healthy. Brendan Lewis, who we
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saw at Colorado and in Nevada last year kids only
thrown two touchdown passes in his last like one hundred
and thirty six passes. Hasn't been pretty. There hasn't been
a lot of offense following him, regardless of whether it
was Colorado, because Colorado was horrendous. So we got to
give him Mulligannaire and now Nevada's horrible. So I don't
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know what to make of the kid or whether it's
the systems and the situations that he's been put in.
But this is twenty five points, and I believe that
SMU wants to start because they're paying their own way
in the ACC. They are going to want to show
rhtt lashly and everybody are going to want to show
everybody that they are about that action. This can SIMU
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minus twenty five. They will cover this, buddy.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Oh, I hate it too, because there's a lot of
guys affiliated with this Nevada team that I know that
you like or Nevada. I apologize Sean Dollars. I know
you're a Sean Dollars guy.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
You want to see him do well, right, I forgot
about Sean dot Yeah it's been Oregon and now you
get his chance to get his shot over at Nevada.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
And then they got they got Nate Burlas in the
second out there. I would love to see him do
some positive stuff. We we covered Brendan Lewis. We liked
Brendan Lewis.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
He was like the only good part of that twenty
twenty one Colorado team. If you could call it good.
I would love to see him live up to the hype. Yeah,
so I want to see Nevada succeed. This is a
tough first straw. We know j Norvel left this because
they don't invest in football over there. It's a tough
place used to play. It's a tough place to win.
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I think they're gonna get smoked. I think this might
be the easiest money of the of the season is
taking SMU as a four touchdown favorite on nevatage. Shout
out to Jeff cho if he can, if he can
make that not happen. But SMU's somebody told me, SMU's
got like four offensive coordinators. Their points is all they
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care about.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Yes, yes, put them up. Light up the scoreboard, all right,
Last game up Delaware State Hawaii Hawaii. How do you
find a game where Hawaii is favored by forty But
the first thing is Delaware State has to actually get
to the football game. Like that's the first thing they
got to actually get to the football Yeah, because they
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missed a They missed their flight to Hawaii on Tuesday
for a quote unquote was it bus snaffu or scheduling
snap fu something? But but here but this is a big school,
small school problem because Oregon, Alabama, even Nevada, they can't
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miss a flight because it's a charter flight, so you
literally can't miss it. It leaves when you leave. And
so then my question was if Delaware State, if they
were flying commercial clearly to Hawaii, how are they gonna
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find another flight with one hundred and twenty with one
hundred seats on it or they're gonna have to split?
Speaker 2 (35:39):
You asked, Yeah, you asked that question. My question is this,
how are you gonna punish any individual player for missing
the bus this year? If you're Delaware State's coaching staff,
when your whole team missed the bus?
Speaker 1 (35:56):
The hell do you miss a flight as a team?
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Don't know?
Speaker 1 (36:01):
All right, So who were you taking? This's forty points? Dude?
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Yeah, man, I I've always kind of had a soft
spot for Hawaii. I want to I forty points is
a lot, though, I don't do you remember when Stanford
had to like practice in a public park.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
And then they won yep against Washington.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Yeah, I feel like it's gonna be like that for
Delaware State. I think they're gonna be so disorganized. No,
they're not gonna win and you're right, but they're gonna
be so disorganized that they're not even gonna have time
to be nervous, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (36:36):
So are you taking Delaware State plus forty?
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Yeah? Plus forty? Sure?
Speaker 1 (36:40):
Why not give me Hawaii minus forty?
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (36:44):
And you know, I run away from these lines like this.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Oh it's such a crap shoot spread. I hate that
we're even talking about it, but it is fun. I'm
just happy football is back, man.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
Yep, me too. All right. So this phenomenon and this
trend of general managers in college football. So you have
Courtney Morgan over at Alabama, who came down from Washington
with Kaitlin Debora. When he went down there, he just
got a raise eight hundred and twenty five thousand dollars
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a year on a three year contract. USC tried to
poach him. According to their message board, there was a
time that they thought that they were going to be
able to get Courtney Morgan, and Courtney Morgan's like, yeah, no, FAMA.
When I first saw it, I was like, I don't
think he's leaving Alabama. I think that they're gonna pay
him what they need to and if he has a choice,
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to go to USC, which is obviously a great program,
great tradition all of this stuff, or stay at Alabama
where they have a lot more rope leeway and leverage,
versus going to USC to go build something a little
bit more. I'm probably gonna chill in Alabama a little
bit because he's a recruiting expert. He the general managers
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kind of handle everything. It's like at Oregon there's Marshall Mauchow,
who was Mark who was at Texas A. And they
excuse me for fumbling anybody, but Marshall is that from
Texas A and m now up at Oregon and most
schools have them now a general manager or what they
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call a chief of staff. And this is the point
that we've gotten to in college football that it's not
just the head coach that now you need. That the
head coach is now like the CEO, and there has
to be somebody below him to kind of handle all
the other stuff that the head coach should not necessarily
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be involved in, and to manage the entire operation, the
budgets and everything in between.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
I'm going to read you a quote from Mike Gundy
at Oklahoma State, and I think it's going to explain
why this position is super necessary for any college that
is serious moving forward in the NIL era. This is
Mike Gundy talking. The good news is the next five months,
we can just play football. There's no negotiating Now, the
portal's over all, the negotiation's history. Now we're playing football.
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The business side of what we do. Now we have
to have those conversations with the players. Tell your agent
to quit calling us and asking for more money. It's
non negotiable. Now it'll start again in December. So now
we're able to direct ourselves just in football, and that
part is fun. The fact that these head coaches and
this should give you a little bit of a window
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into how busted the current system is, which is one
hundred percent because of the NCAA. Instead of trying to
anticipate this, tried to fight it, spend a bunch of
money trying to fight it, got smoked in court a
billion times over. Coaches are not supposed to be coordinating
with the NIL collectives, just like your super pack is
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not supposed to be coordinating with the candidate, right, but
they absolutely are because you how would the collectives know
what players the coaches want? Yep and how would the
collectives know how much to allocate to certain players. Of
course they're coordinating, so Mike Gundy kind of yeah. So
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now it's a general manager's job, and you have Mike
Gundy out here saying, tell your agents to quit calling
and trying to renegotiate midseason.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
First, I absolutely love Mike Gundy for saying that. And
you know, I'm pro player, pro players getting paid. But
there's a time for pay, and there's a time for play.
It's playtime right now. And you don't want I mean players,
you may want renegotiation during the season, but you really
don't want that because it could go against you as well.
(40:51):
Get you get hurt, you get.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
So what did that man do? He put the QR
codes on the helmet. He said, you could just direct
pay them.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
Yep. I love that. I love that because that gives
fans an opportunity. Yo, my my, my favorite player. Snap,
here we go. Here's ten bucks. Man. Wait, two touchdowns. Oh,
I've had a few drinks. Here's one hundred bucks. Three touchdowns. Oh,
we need to give him a new car.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
And it is a collective fund. It is a collective fund.
So like he gets split, that dollar gets split one
hundred ways or whatever. But still I think Oklahoma State
for them losing seventeen starters before the twenty twenty three season.
They figured it out and sometimes it takes that type
of route awakening to make that adjustment. But now you
have Alabama pay eight hundred and twenty five thousand a
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year for this general manager position, really setting the bar
for what that's going to be, and Alabama has come
out the highest paid everybody.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
And now people can that's another job that you can
aspire to. Now, not as the head coach, but but
if you can be efficient and you can be a
you know, a leader, somebody who's organized and all of
that stuff, Like you don't have to be the x's
and o's person. The general manager has a totally different job.
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So now there's a totally different job available in football. Two.
Now there's gonna be more non football people looking for
that job.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
I'm telling you, hey, And Steve Kime is available for
anybody who wants him. Even though it got announced that
Steve Kime is starting a ground up nil collective for
like the best middle school, like to it'll be like slotted.
I'm sure it's I'm sure it's a necessary service. We'll
see how it works out.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
He's based on his first offer. Got this kid's first
offer to Arizona State.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
Yeah, it's being and it's being run out of Charlotte
where Like so I'm I'll see if i can get
us hooked up with the UH with with an interview
for this because I'm fascinated by the process. I'm sure
it's necessary.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
But like, let's he gets the yes, let's get Steve Kaime.
Speaker 2 (42:59):
In for the age of the age of negotiating for
kids as young as as fourteen. Financial stuff has been here.
You're in California. You know this, but now it's like,
all right, we can shed some light on it. Which
is the sunlight's the best disinfectant. It's been necessary for
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a long time. It is better for these kids to
be prepared for this madness than it is to be unprepared.
No matter how much you don't let the nil era.
You don't want kids going in not knowing what to expect,
getting screwed over, bailing on your team halfway to the season.
You don't want that type of stuff. You want as
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much stuff above board as possible. And it's been possible
because we pay all these administrators. We pay all these coaches,
and the players are the ones really driving out revenue.
So if we can set that up for the players,
I am absolutely all for it. Is it going to
be ugly process, Absolutely, it's going to be real ugly
on the way there. But I think the GM position
is is way more necessary than a lot of these
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administrators they have at these colleges.
Speaker 1 (44:04):
Yep, you are one right final thing up our guy,
the nepotism king Kirk Farence. He is suspended for Iowa's
Week one game against Illinois State. When I woke up
this morning, I did not have that on my bingo
car route. I did not Kirk Farnce. What the hell
(44:26):
did he do to get suspended for recruiting violations and
not just a like This is what's confusing to me.
I don't know what Kirk Ferrince did.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
They apparently, they apparently were in contact with Cade McNamara
prior to him entering the portal from Michigan.
Speaker 1 (44:46):
Wait, so you got suspended for Kate McNamara.
Speaker 2 (44:50):
For all five hundred and five yards and four touchdowns
that he threw last year. Yes, you got suspended for
Cave McNamara.
Speaker 1 (45:01):
I don't think.
Speaker 2 (45:04):
After the audio version, George's experience and a migraine. Yeah. So,
the funniest part about this is it is the best
justification for all the Michigan fans who have been like
everybody doesn't the fact that somebody got suspended for messing
with their players is just going to add fuel to
their very miserable fire that has been raging ever since
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the whole cheeseburger gate and all that stuff. So, and
we know, we know, and we've talked about it on
this show a bunch. Sharon Moore's contacting kids who weren't
in the portal yet, other people on the on the staff.
It's happening all over the place. You can't get caught though,
And a lot of this is player initiated. A lot
of this is player initiated. A lot of it. Yeah,
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player and parent initiated. They'll reach out to somebody who
reaches out to somebody else and say, if I get
in the portal, will there be a spot for me near.
Speaker 1 (46:01):
You? Yeah? You up?
Speaker 2 (46:04):
How they get how they get busted for it is
interesting to me. I don't like, you know, is it
self reported? You know? How does this come out? Does
it come out in an interview. But this is also
why it's important to develop relationships prior. This is why
you've got to be recruiting high school especially for this
(46:25):
a message for Dion Sanders. You got to be recruiting
high school kids because you need to have that relationship
development for when they yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. You
got to have their uncle's phone number, you got to
have the school janitor's phone number. You got to have
all of those relationships developed in case you get them
on their third or fourth chance. That stuff's really important.
(46:45):
You you brought up Sam Levitt, right, you brought up
Sam Levitt Arizona State. Kenny Dillingham was at Florida State
when he gave Sam Levitt his first scholarship offer. You
know where sam Levitt played high school ball? Where West Lynne,
Oregon out by where you played in college like that.
So like developing a relationship with somebody who is literally
the furthest you can be in America from you helped
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ASU get their starting quarterback three years later or whatever.
So you've got to be out there developing these relationships.
Speaker 1 (47:15):
People are developing those relationships because there are relationships that
have been built around my older son who's in college
now that people are calling me about my middle son. Now,
oh yeah, and so we go, we go see. So
so just just know that over the next few years
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here on College Football Apostles and and Unafraid Show, that
we're probably gonna have every coach in America on this
on this on this show.
Speaker 2 (47:48):
Oh yeah, man. I was out at the the commitment
of the number one offensive tackle in America a couple
of days ago talking to his dad about you know,
about your show, and just like everything that we you know,
the family, the aspect, the fatherhood aspect, food aspect, like
people are loving it and it's getting bigger and bigger,
and I'm excited to watch it continue to grow. Hopefully
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we don't offend any more coaches than we already have
in our Pack twelve Apostles era. Hopefully we can leave
some of that because there's some coaches that don't want
to talk to us.
Speaker 1 (48:19):
Hey, that's fine, that's fine, that's fine. But some of
them they won't. They won't, they won't have a choice. Ralph, Okay,
you like the phone picked up, you better pick up
the phone. And I'm not lying, I'm I'm I'm not
above that. So is what it is you guys. I'm
George Reister, he's Ralph and and this is college football.
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Apostles enjoy the weekend peace out