Texas + Michigan QB Problems, Week 4 Analysis, NIL Creativity

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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on the channel. So there are some updates to NIL.
So people are getting real creative. And you know what,
when you get real creative, you start bumping into laws
and legislation and everything else. So there are some great
NIL ideas that have been poop pooed by the states,
and we got to talk about those. And Georgia. Georgia's

(00:45):
vulnerable right now, we got to talk about that. And
John Gruden and Urban Meyer. What do they have in
common in terms of coaching college football right now? I
don't know if you want them in your universe city,
but maybe you do if you're desperate. What would you
pay seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars to never have

(01:08):
to do again? Legitimate question? And then there was a
comment by coach playing Ohio State that is hilarious it's
probably against NCAA rules, but we'll discuss that as well.
And then we got to talk about the calgorithm. And
we're not talking about calimony because we told you what

(01:29):
calimony was, where cal gets ten million dollars in alimony
from UCLA in the divorce, even though that they ended
up with a new partner that they clearly are in
charge of and dominating right now. And of course we
got our game picks. We got the game pick in
terms of our contests, and we are going to break

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down the gambling picks against the spread as well. You
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Oh and quinn Ewers and arch Manning do we have

(02:16):
a quarterback controversy And we talked about it. Texas fans
were mad, but now it's standing at the doorstep fl
and that's where we will start today. So quinn Ewers
is out this game, apparently he missed part of last
game with an injury, and arch Manning came in and

(02:36):
looked like the best player on the field against UTSA.
Now he gets the start against Louisiana MUNT Monroe. And
I tried to tell people there are people inside of
the Texas locker room and in that organization that feel
like that arch Manning is the better quarterback. And that
doesn't mean that they think quinn Ewer sucks, because quinn

(02:58):
Ewers is an NFL quarterback and will be drafted, just
like Aj Peeley and Joey Harrington when I was at
the Oregon Ducks. So Ralph if he comes out and
he balls out, and we're talking about arch man against
ULM Louisiana Monroe, and then maybe he gets to start

(03:18):
next week against Mississippi State because you know they're gonna
roll Mississippi State. But then the Red River Ribberry is
right after that. If arch looks like the best quarterback
for three games in a row and the best player
on the field, do you start him in the Red
River rivalry?

Speaker 2 (03:37):
I don't think so, But he has the opportunity to
make it tough. And then this goes. This isn't just
arch Manning, really, this goes for any quarterback in the country.
You have the ability once once you have your hands
on the steering wheel the car to the best of

(03:58):
your ability. I love that this start is coming against
Louisiana Monroe because it gave it gave the defensive coordinator
the opportunity to give one of the funniest quotes I've
ever seen. The ULM defensive coordinator's name is Ernest Hil.
He said, we actually have some kids on our team

(04:19):
who played against him in New Orleans, and a couple
guys done beat him already, so they don't hold too
much fear against him. They're not gonna hold any fear
against him coming up here. So I love the idea
that it's taking place against Louisiana School and that there
are kids who played against him in high school. And
the DC's like, hey, he's not Superman. We got guys

(04:41):
that already beat him, So I think that that's fantastic.
But he does have his hands on a steering wheel
right now. He has an opportunity. We'll see if he
seizes it. But I don't I'm not a big loser
spot to injury guy. If there was nothing, if there
was nothing for him to you know that there weren't
holes in his game really and he is kind of

(05:05):
a big game player. So I feel like you have
to go back if he's healthy. But if he's borderline,
do you tell that team doctor like, hey, maybe you
recommend that he needs a little bit more rest.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
Hey hey, And if that happens, you know what's gonna
happen after that, because because Quinn is going to be
fighting to get back on the field as quickly as possible,
because he's not an idiot, he knows exactly what the
hell is transpiring right now. Is This is not a secret,

(05:39):
This is not some sort of like he knows that
he's breathing down his neck that is, and that in
no way is a disparagement. And we have seen this
happen multiple times. I told you I saw it happen
when I was at Oregon with AJ Pheley and Joey Harrington.
AJ Pheeley was our starter, he got hurt, Joey came

(06:01):
in sorry, and then AJ Philey still gets drafted in
the fourth round, has a long NFL career. We saw
it happen with Caleb Williams and Spencer Rattler at Oklahoma.
Spencer Ratler is in the NFL right now and actually
looking like Okay, maybe we might have something there. And
there's been countless other times that we've seen it happen.

(06:24):
And it's not necessarily that the kid's bad or something.
It's just, you know, these are the breaks sometimes. Tom
Brady was on both sides of it. Yep, he got
oh yeah, exactly when when he was at Michigan Drew Henson, Oh,
Drew Henson's the hot shot coming in and he's our guy.

(06:44):
And oh they they've tried to manufacture ways to get
Drew Henson on the field. And then when Tom was
in the NFL, he did it to Drew bledsoe.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
Oh you know, when he saw the guy ahead of
him was named Drew, he was like, no, Wally, no more. Drew.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
Wally Pip the Boogeyman showed up. And just so you
guys know, and let me tell you a story in
case you don't know who Wally Pip is. So Wally
Pip is the Boogeyman. He is the Kukui, he is
candy man. Say his name three times and he'll show up.
That's who he is. And college coaches and NFL coaches

(07:23):
tell this story to like skit. It's the bad time,
scary story for players because if you get hurt, they'll say,
hey man, you can't make the club in the tub.
And then next thing, do you know who Wally Pip is?
And everybody responds, no, I don't know who Wallypip is.
See exactly have you heard of Lou Garrick? Yes, of course,

(07:43):
great baseball player, first basement for the Yankees. All right,
so Wally Pip was the starting first baseman and then
he either got hurt or took a couple of days off,
and then Lou Garrett came in and guess who never
went back in the game. So that's how they try
to scare everybody. So it's the Wally Pip story. And yeah,

(08:08):
it's still it has had a big enough impact that
I tell my kids about Wally Pipp.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
Over a headache. That was over a headache.

Speaker 1 (08:18):
Man.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
That's tough to.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
Play with your troubles. You got to play with your troubles.
And that's why players are willing to play with broken
spleens and everything. No, no, nobody concussions everything, because you
can't get on that field. You can't get a spot up,
especially if you're the quarterback, because there's only one of
them on the field. If you're a wide receiver, you
get hurt, there's three of them playing at a time,

(08:45):
like it's hard to fully lose your standing. But if
you are the court, there's only one. If you're aligneman
and you're one of the five best linemen, and then
somebody comes in and they're the best center for some reason.
Because you got hurt, you might be still the best guard,
so you might still play, or the best tackle or whatever.

(09:06):
They will find a spot for you. There's only one quarterback,
all right. The next thing up, nil is getting very interesting.
So the University of Tennessee, their athletic director, he sent
out a video his name is Danny White, talking about
their fourteen and fourteen and a half percent increase in

(09:30):
the tickets in terms of season tickets and the donations
required for the season tickets and the single game tickets.
So if you've never bought or you know, had college
football tickets to for the it's like a personal seat license.
It's your ability to buy the ticket is a donation

(09:50):
to the athletic department. So there's gonna be a four
and a half percent average increase on all football tickets.
And then there's an additional ten percent increase to on
all ticket invoices, single and season ticket purchases as well
as the donations for those seats. And that is the

(10:12):
way that they can pay for the college football revenue
sharing Plan, Ralph. And this is wild to me, wild
because we knew this was going to happen. This is
this is like a terror. You know who, The buoy
gets passed off to the consumer consumer always, and they're

(10:39):
doing it in college for football, for the talent. It's
gonna be called a talent fee. And and do you
know who's gonna get it next? All the students at
the university. That's who's gonna get it. It's gonna be
like a it's gonna be like a ten dollars talent
fee on on every semester, the.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
Ten dollars per day. These numbers they're talking about, there's
serious numbers. Do you have you ever heard of Order
two two seven? Have you ever heard of that? No? Okay?

Speaker 1 (11:10):
So?

Speaker 2 (11:11):
Uh? In World War Two, Joseph Stalin put out an
order that made being a coward illegal. So yeah, so
Order two two seven, what is what came to be
known as the not one step backward Order? Uh. Because
Germany was advancing into Russia, and so Stalin said, panic

(11:34):
makers and cowards must be liquidated on the spot, not
one step backwards without orders from higher headquarters. Commanders who
abandoned a position without an order from a higher headquarters
are traders to the motherland. And that's what I thought
of when I saw this Tennessee UH fee increase passing
around the consumers. They said, hey, not one step backward.

(11:55):
No administrator in this school is surrendering a dime, no
instruction because they they got massive, massive Nayland Stadium construction
upgrades they're doing. The money's not gonna come out of
that gonna We're going to continue to ask you for more.
We're not taking one step back. We're not making a

(12:16):
single sacrifice. And this is something that you and I
talked about on this show for years, for years that
the primary reason I wanted to see a revenue sharing
model with the players is because a revenue sharing model
with the players is the only thing that's gonna protect
the students and it's the only thing that's gonna protect
the fans. Because the slice of the pie that belonged

(12:38):
to the athletes for the longest time was office equipment.
It was your pads, it was your bed to sleep in,
it was your classroom to sit in. That was your
slice of the pie. And then when we went in
nineteen ninety seven when Steve Springer became the only coach
making one million dollars, and then by twenty seventeen one
million was the standard for like coordinators at major schools,

(13:00):
the slice of the pie for the athletes was still there. Yep,
you could have increased the pie proportionally and solved all
of these problems over time. But here's the deal. Nobody's
gonna give up their piece of pizza. Nobody's gonna give
up their piece of pie to make sure that the

(13:21):
athletes can eat. So they're gonna pass that on to
the consumer. And it is disappointing and insane, but this
is the perfect illustration of what we've been talking about.
Until athletes can share in the revenue that they generate,
that revenue is going to have to come from Kletus
in the stands at Nayland. He's going to have to

(13:41):
make a decision do I take food out of my
kid's mouths to make sure that we keep getting five stars.
That's the decision that they're passing on to you, and
it's so unnecessary to even be in this position. But
the NCAA was more than willing to spend what it
costs to make a million pies on making sure that
they didn't have to share, that they didn't have to share,

(14:03):
and that's crazy to be created graduations you pay for this.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
Now, it's created a ridiculous model of money. Right, So
there's already the ridiculousness of the athletic department and the
school being two separate entities. Obviously Arizona State operates differently,
and there are other schools that do as well, which
probably makes a lot more sense than being like our

(14:32):
athletic department's in debt to like the regular school and
just in debt in per perpetuity, and you're continuing to
make additional issues that don't need to be solved and
well that don't need to be created. So and then
you got Arkansas. So we talked about the Tennessee thing.

(14:54):
Now you got Arkansas and their athletic director says that
they need twelve million more per year in NIL donations
to be competitive. I believe this is totally wrong, totally false.
And the reason why is because, like yes, there are
like like Georgia's NIL, they're paying out about nine million

(15:17):
dollars but either nine or thirteen I forget which one,
but yeah, yeah, about nine million dollars because they are
averaging their payrolls about eight to nine hundred thousand dollars
a month. Right, So, and then you have Ohio State
who is going significantly higher because they are all in

(15:38):
on a championship for this particular season. I believe that
the market is going to correct itself, and the reason
why the market is going to correct itself is because
of exactly what happened with NIL and high school to
begin with. So you guys, remember when NIL was first

(15:59):
a life out in high school. You had one huge
deal be announced with Nico e Amalava that was supposedly
eight million dollars. We don't know what the true details
of it are, but that was announced, right and then
there was a Jaden Rashata deal. Then there have been
other deals that have sounded, you know, outrageous and disproportionate. Ralph,

(16:20):
how many high school students do you know of or
heard of right now getting anywhere close to that amount
of money?

Speaker 2 (16:29):
None? None, Because the biggest authors we heard are from
like trading card companies with like a potential to be
a seven figure deal.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
Yes, yep, and I do know of guys that are
getting high hundreds of thousands up to a million, But
that's it like that, This ain't the and the reason
why is because you have teams like Florida State who
were through the transfer portal a lot and it's not

(17:04):
working out. So when the money's not being well spent,
people are like, whoa, whoa, whoa, No, no, no, we're
gonna have to come down to like a reasonable amount
or some sort of tiered system. Let's look at the
University of Georgia. The way that they have done things
is a tiered system makes a whole bunch of sense.

(17:25):
There's a maximum amount that they are going to give
to high school players, and then there's a maximum amount
that you're gonna get as a backup, as a starter
now I'm sorry, as a backup, third stringer, whatever. But
then when you become that man, now you have the

(17:45):
opportunity to make a lot more. And that's actually it
just makes a lot more sense to do it like that.
And yes, there are gonna be some schools that throw
a bag at a player because they're like, oh, we
gotta change our recruiting and all that stuff. And yes,
you're probably gonna have to overpay it first, but once
you become a more established team, you don't, and you're

(18:07):
sending guys to the NFL, you're going to have to
do that a lot less. So I do believe that
there's gonna be a big market correction. But I do
love the creativity of Arkansas though, because the Arkansas casinos
are trying to figure out a way to fund nil

(18:28):
for the state colleges with online fifty to fifty raffles.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
I love this.

Speaker 1 (18:34):
Because I go to the Dodger game every single time Ralph,
I'm playing the fifty to fifty. I have not won
a nickel out of it, but they get like a
hundred bucks out of me every single time, just off
the off chance that I win. And by the time
the raffles done at the end of the game, it's
like anywhere in between fifty and one hundred thousand dollars

(18:54):
depending on the day of the week of the game,
is on whether a weekday versus a weekend. And if
you have these online fifty to fifty raffles and you
have thousands, tens of thousands of people in the state,
or one hundred thousand, two hundred thousand people in the
state doing it for like two bucks each five bucks
each a couple times a week. That's just playing a lotto.

(19:18):
They're doing that already. So now if you can give
that to nil, I think that that's a way that
you can help the help the state schools out. And
I love it.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
Yes, but again it's still outside funding instead of instead
of revenue sharing, and so the creativity is very cool,
but we're putting people in a situation to have to
be creative because the NCAA didn't allow for logic, and
that that part of it drives me nuts. But when

(19:54):
you brought up you brought up like the high school athletes.
It's really only five or six seven players per year
that are getting life changing money before they ever sit
step foot on a college campus. And the fascinating thing
about that is, so now you just had like the
Rivals one hundred drop for the class of twenty twenty seven.

(20:15):
We're creating situations where there's such an opportunity for financial
gain for somebody to be named one of the top
prospects two and a half years before they ever set
foot on a college campus. Do you know that there's
gonna be dads out here saying like, hey, it's worth
a hundred thousand dollars investment for me to hit up

(20:37):
one of these guys that's in charge of rankings. That
could turn around and be seven hundred and fifty thousand
in my kid's pockets. So we have created so many
opportunities for grift, for things that are not above board
for creativity, and anytime there's money, the farious people gonna

(20:57):
come around, these agents. I'm bad. And all we had
to do, All we had to do was to have
somebody with some foresight in charge of the NC double A. Instead,
the NC double A hid behind Mark Emmert being an
idiot forever, and they even reelected him because he was
willing to take all those arrows for a one and

(21:20):
a half million dollar a year paycheck or whatever. So
even he's in on it for the paycheck. And now
all of this is psychotic when all we had to
do from the very beginning is say the athletes helped
generate the revenue, they should get a slice of this.
And as our revenue grows, so should the revenue for
the athletes. That was all they had to do, and

(21:42):
instead we're getting all these crazy solutions from every different state.
And every state is different, and states could change on
a dime. You could have a governor come in and
be like, no, I don't like this, while your kids
in college revoke it, and then break up an entire
football team.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
Yep, well, because what if you have a head coach.

Speaker 2 (22:05):
What if you have a head coach that's like mega mega,
and then you're in a purple state where you get
a governor who's like no, and anybody who advocated for that,
I'm punishing now.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
Yep, no way, nobody. So speaking of governors, though, Georgia
Governor Brian Kemp signed an executive order on September seventeenth
allowing schools in the state to directly compensate their athletes
for name, image, and likeness. And the executive order effective
immediately shields Georgia schools from any punitive actions by the

(22:41):
NCAA or athletic conferences. So you know that we're gonna
have this in every state now. And first of all,
I appreciate Governor Kemp for this because this is a
re election move because it just means more down there,
and if he can make sure that Georgia football has

(23:02):
a leg up, now he can be like, hey, baby,
I'm doing everything for for for you, the people, the
things that you care about the most in this Bible belt.

Speaker 3 (23:12):
God and football. If I take care of God and
football to make sure you guys are good, then you
know what what what what it is. I'm a Republican
and Trump hates me.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
Hey's he's gaining a track record of protecting his citizens
from the Feds, that's for sure. But I just I
don't know. It's I'm curious to see if anybody would
challenge it on its constitutionality to say that like an
an organizing body has no power over us. Is it

(23:49):
reminds me of like Scott's standing up in the office
and saying, I declare bankruptcy. I'm not sure that's how
this works, but it's I mean, I wouldn't mind it.
I'm sure Tennessee's governor, I'm sure Arizona's governor. I'm sure
they've heard from some university presidents and athletic directors saying like, hey,

(24:11):
you see what, Brian Camp did you think you could
just rememberability?

Speaker 1 (24:17):
And I just want to use this as another opportunity
to point out to people who were screaming keep politics
out of sports. Politics are always in sports. That's how
we got nil That's how we get Tom Brady suing
the NFL. That's how we get free agency. That's how
we've got all of these things. Is the Mitchell report,

(24:39):
you know, you know the Balco story. And because politics
are involved in sports. Politics is involved in the Olympics
over a bronze medal for Jordan Childs. Right now, Politics
and the government are always involved in sports. But anyways, though, if.

Speaker 2 (24:59):
People just translate what they're trying to say so that
it would sound sound like what they're actually saying, keep
rule makers out of the rule book, that's what they're saying.
They're like, keep keep the government out of now. I
get people are inundated with politics and they don't want
to hear about it in their daily lives any more
than they have to. But who are you going begging

(25:21):
for change when you need it? Citizens? It's it's always
like the government has to be involved when when it's rules,
when it's regulations, whether it's scaling the rules back or
enhancing the rules, it's always it's always going to be
about politics. I understand people saying keep partisanship out of
and I mean, I'll be right there with you screaming

(25:43):
that as well, like we don't need partisanship, we need governance,
we need leadership, we need common sense. But yeah, yeah,
the the you know, stick to sports like I would
if I could, I would as a governing body. And
you talked about this in your video about the wonderful
video about North Carolina and how they got involved in

(26:05):
NIL because they wanted to keep men out of women's sports,
and what they ended up doing was barring public school
kids from accessing ni O money.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
Yeah, and that like, make sure you guys check that
out on the Unafraid shoke because it is an unbelievable situation. Unbelievable.
All right, Speaking of unbelievable, John Gruden and Urban Meyer,
their names are being floated about in the world of
college football because urban Meyer's name has been floated about

(26:39):
about YO, about when we fire Billy Billy Napier, will
will you come be the interim head coach? And remember
he was the head coach there. They just did the
Florida Urban Washing on Netflix about the about the swamp
and things that went on when he was there where

(27:01):
they told about ten percent of the story and I, Ralph,
I do not believe. And he said he's not open
to return as interim head coach, and we saw that
with Bob Stoops when Lincoln Riley left to go to USC.

(27:21):
I don't know whether this is urban Meyer just saying no,
or whether this is the university being like, listen, that's
not even an option fan. Which do you think it is.
Do you think it's the university saying that, or do
you think it's it's Urban Meyer.

Speaker 2 (27:41):
When he he h, So this was on the I
don't know, was the not the cover three podcasts, but
it's the podcast with the guys from the Big New
Kickoff You had a triple option triple option. Yeah, so
Urban myyer's on there. They got Roger Goodell as a guest,
which is fascinating because Urban Meyer's tenure in the NFL
was pretty big embarrassment. But he they just brought up like, hey,

(28:04):
there's a lot of people in Gainesville that would love
to see you return, and he was very like, he
just shut it down. He said that ship has sailed.
I got a lot of people out there that I
want to see succeed. But for me personally, that ship
has sailed now. Urban Meyer notorious liar, notorious liar. And
I want to be really clear for any urban Meyer

(28:24):
fans out there, like urban Meyer would probably admit that
he has used bending the truth to his advantage in
a lot of different situations, such as telling Javon Sneed
that Tim Tebow is coming to Florida to be a linebacker,
right like, there's not he he And I think that

(28:49):
that goes to show you that. And I think Andy,
I saw Andy Staples talk about this. Urban Meyer knows
that he his time is probably come and gone. Because
the great strength of urban Meyer was building depth. You
can't build depth in the transfer portal era anymore. He

(29:10):
can't do it. Yeah, and he he also under the
pre was allowed to hold kids hostage, tell them anything,
make stuff up, go against his his christ Follower values
for the sake of winning a football game. He was
able to do all of those things, and that that

(29:32):
has been limited greatly in the player empowerment era.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
Urban high at a player, what you say in the streets.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
Man, Yeah, So I don't even know if he could
be successful. He could cash a check and people say
and do anything to cash a check, but I'm not
sure he needs it. I think he's got a good
job now. I think he adds to that big nowon
kick off, how you feel about him, I think he
does a good job. I don't see any point for

(30:04):
him to come back to a game that has passed
him and his tactics by. And that's not a judgment
against his his tactics. Everybody was allowed to do that.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
But do you think that his tactics could be successful today?
Because I do not.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
No, No, I don't. Because the second that you tell
a player something that's not true, they can bounce, they
can tweet about you. You've gained a reputation in which
if somebody even even if somebody even if you're in
the right, and it was a closed door meeting, like,
think about how many people sided with that player that

(30:43):
recorded Lane Kiffin yep, just because they don't like Lane Kiffin.
Like and if.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
Anything had come out bad about Lane Kiffin during that time,
that was actually like sketchy. Oh he could have been gone.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
And there's people like Raiders fans and Tennessee fans who
will spread stuff about Lane Kiffin just for fun. Mm Hm, nope, Right,
Like how many people out there, how many people out
there don't want to hear from Urban Meyer ever. Again,
like if anything was ever a fifty to fifty gray
area thing, he would just be put through the ringer.
Or if he showed up to a stadium there would

(31:23):
just be fifty thousand signs that said came in Nebraska.
It's not worth it for him at this point to
put himself in his prayers. Nope, in that situation, like
are you gonna kick the punter? Like, you know, are
you gonna bring in t bow? You know, there's all
this stuff.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
Yeah, yeah, where Chef's got to be such a like
there's so much baggage there that like he's got to
walk the straight and narrow if he were to do it.
But speaking of Ohio State and the straight and narrow,
Charles Huff, So they're playing Marshall this week, great preseason
schedule Ohio State. Anyways, Charles Houff, Marshall's head coach. Uh.

(32:06):
He says like he was talking about Ohio State players
and he was like, hey, yo, if y'all want to
come over here, He was like, I love our players,
we have really good players. All of that but if
some of those Ohio State guys they they want to
transfer over here to Marshall, we will be happy to
have them. We we have what was the name of

(32:27):
the biscuit company, he said, we have an n I L. Huh, yes,
we have Tutors Biscuits n I L money if you
want to come around here, and Ralph thinks that that
will then preclude him from taking any Marshall, I mean,
any Ohio State transfers if they did want to come

(32:47):
to Marshall, I'm gonna tell you, I want to give
a damn. I would make the n C doule double
a telp me. No, I'd be like, well, we're not
going to give him Tutor's biscuits in the n I L.
We're gonna give him uh uh TBS n IOL, even
though that may stand for Tutors Biscuits.

Speaker 2 (33:10):
Yeah, I mean, it's it's one of those like take
these Tutors biscuits out of my cold dead hands type situations.
But I was listening to Charles huff Talk and I
was laughing along with everybody else that was watching that,
and then immediately I was like, Oh, this is super illegal,
but it's too funny. To punish. Yeah, And I'm that

(33:31):
way with my kids sometimes, like some of the stuff
my kids do. If it's funny enough, i'm gonna save
the talking to I'm gonna save the consequences. Like it's
very clear that he wasn't being serious. Yeah, but that
is the Dictionary definition of an inducement, yep. If and

(33:57):
what would what would be funny is if they actually
went into a situation where it was having to be
litigated or whatever. Like I can imagine Charles Soff being like,
do you really think I'm gonna feed my fastest players
unlimited biscuits? That you think I'm gonna turn a four
to three into a four to six over some biscuits?

Speaker 1 (34:19):
No? No, no, But it was a joke, So you
said it was a joke, all right, There, There is
no joke about what was going on at Old Miss
because Old Miss beat Wake Forest forty to three and
then found out that their twenty twenty five game against
against them got canceled, and honestly, and that puts Ole

(34:43):
Miss in a situation where they may have to apply
for a waiver because they don't have a Power five
non conference game. And you know what, I don't give
a damn, because you shouldn't be playing nine Power five
games to begin with, you should be playing ten. You
wouldn't be in this situation, Lane Kiffin and Old miss

(35:05):
if you didn't schedule like Guy Bodge and because you
tried to find an easy non conference game in wake Forest,
that's what you tried to do, and then you got
three other non competitive games. Ralph, will you look up
the rest of their schedule for this year while I'm
ranting on this for twenty twenty five for in their

(35:27):
non conference because so wake Forest paid the reports now
are seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars to get out
of that game and then go take a home and
home with Oregon State. And because they're like, we're not
that good right now, like, let's get a game that's
competitive but that we can potentially win, and wake and

(35:52):
Old and Old Missus like where's our where's our game?
Go to none conference games then and then find another game,
and and Lane Kipp is like, how are we gonna
find a game? Everybody's already scheduled up. So this is
exactly why college football needs a commissioner, because there should
not be game scheduled years upon years in atvance especially now,

(36:15):
there should be consistent uh, there should be consistent competitive
scheduling year in and year out.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
Like you want an NFL style where the bad teams
get the get the the last place division guys all
play each other, first place, all play each other type deal?

Speaker 1 (36:40):
Well, yes, yes, correct and then and but then so
you play another In the NFL, you you play two
other divisions. Plus you end up playing like first play
teams that finished where you did last year or too
love it?

Speaker 2 (36:57):
You know how? You know how we know as college
football fans that this can be done on two three weeks.

Speaker 1 (37:01):
Notice because they did it during COVID.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
And they've had bowl games for years. And that's exactly
what a bowl game is. It's a pre arranged slotting
of the ACC versus the Pac twelve and the Sun Bowl,
or the Big Ten versus the Pac twelve and the
Rose Bowl. Like this already has existed that if you're
in this slot, then that determines your game for your
bull Why not return your schedule.

Speaker 1 (37:25):
You can do a big scheduling announcement that gives people
still months to plan their travel.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
Yeah. So, and it would be a topic of conversation
all year long, because you would be tracking other college
football teams to find out who you're going to be
playing next year, and that would be I mean, I
don't know, that would be a lot of fun. You
could rotate it. I know, I know the conferences are shifting,
but you could rotate at conference by conference on which
year's home, which which years away, stuff like that. But

(37:53):
so I did look it up for you. Here we go.
There's a tough one twenty twenty five Ole Miss Football,
Georgia State in Oxford, Tulane in Oxford, and then this
is the big one. This is the risky game for them,
the Citadel in Oxford, and.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
Then they have wake for us too. I hope fans
do not show up. I do. That's the only way
to shut this down. And I do believe in giving
the little guy games that we get given them by
games so they can make money. But as a college
football fan, we want to see more competitive games, like
I want to see Citadel versus a competitive team because

(38:35):
we can. It doesn't have to be the highest tier
of games. It's just got to be competitive. We have
to figure out how to stop these non competitive games.
As many non competitive games because there it makes no
sense that this schedule. This weekend is one of the
lighter ones in college football. But then we have October twelfth,

(38:56):
where we have like the best weekend in college football
history in terms of anticipation. Why should that all be
on one weekend? How do we not have consistently good games?
So if the if the ACC, all the ACC teams
and all the SEC teams all were forced to play
nine conference games and then the end, you didn't let

(39:19):
Ohio State schedule like they scheduled this year and Michigan
like they scheduled last year in the non conference, you
would have a much better product week in and week out. Yes,
people would take more losses, but you have expanded the playoff.
I I hate this with all the power route with

(39:40):
the power of a thousand suns and.

Speaker 2 (39:42):
By games are dirty work anyway, George, Like you're telling me,
I'm at the Citadel, I'm six three, two sixty five,
and you're telling me I have to go block Walter
Nolan to fund my coaches contract.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
Yes, yes, yes, Jesus, but it's an opportunity for you though.
It's an opportunity for you to go to the NFL.

Speaker 2 (40:08):
An opportunity to walk with a limp starting at age
forty five for the rest of your life.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
Hey hey, but but you might get to cash.

Speaker 2 (40:15):
In though too. Maybe Yeah, if you block him good enough,
then maybe old miss will come and get you. You play
on their team next year. But that's a I don't know,
that's a tough one. I've never loved the idea that
players have to put their bodies on the line against
much better players in order to help their help their
school meet budget. That's just another reason why I've always

(40:38):
thought that there should be a revenue share model, because
that is that's like human shield type stuff. We say
we care about player safety, but we let Tennessee Tech
play Alabama one week before Thanksgiving. Yeah, come on, man,
But okay, So the question is, what would you pay

(40:58):
seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars to never have to
do again? Because that's a wake Forest is paying to
get out of this game.

Speaker 1 (41:05):
I would pay seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars to
never have to go in the airport again and and
just and have a teleporter. That's what you would pay. Okay,
So travel yeah yeah, so no, well, no travel anywhere,
so I can just walk into my teleport machine in

(41:26):
my living room and just pop up wherever I need
to pop up. Okay, that means that means I wouldn't
have to drive on the freeway in traffic. Nothing. I
would pay seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars for a
teleporting machine. You know what else I would have to
I would pay seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars for.
I would pay seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars to never, ever, ever,

(41:52):
to be able to eat anything that I want, whenever
I want, whatever time I want, and look like sham
and sharp, but but have no health issues too, so
like my my, my cholesterol couldn't go up, my I
couldn't get high blood pressure, nothing like that.

Speaker 2 (42:11):
I would pay seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars to
never have to sleep again, because I think that's probably
the only way I'm gonna make seven hundred and fifty
thousand dollars in order to keep I'm gonna need that
extra six and a half hours a day in order
to pay for the to pay for the service.

Speaker 1 (42:30):
Yeah, oh my god, Yeah, dude, dude, not sleeping would
be miserable.

Speaker 2 (42:38):
I would love it. I love it.

Speaker 1 (42:44):
I enjoy sleeping and oh okay, okay, so how about
seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars for the for not
the need to have to sleep.

Speaker 2 (42:58):
That's what I'm saying is to never be tired.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
Okay, okay, okay, yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
Just be awakened miserable for the rest of my life, exactly.
Sleep psychosis. No, man, I'm I resent that I need sleep.
I hate it. It's I've had asammia in my whole life.
I get fomo so bad. I'm just like, something is
going on in the world and I am missing it.

(43:23):
And so, yeah, I don't know. It's not great. I
don't enjoy it. I would rather not have the problem
by leaning even further into it and just not needing
to sleep at all. I don't desire a healthy sleep life.
I just want to get rid of the desire to
sleep completely. All Right.

Speaker 1 (43:42):
We got a lot of really good games this weekend,
and and we're gonna talk about those. And the first
game that we got up so we got Tennessee at Oklahoma. Now,
let's go back to the year nineteen thirty nine. And
I know that nobody watching this was alive in nineteen

(44:03):
thirty nine. Because that would make you damn near one
hundred years old. What would you be eighty eighty five? Yeah,
you'd be like eighty five years old. And yeah, so
Germany invaded Poland Gandhi was starving himself to free India.
Lu Garrick retired and the Wizard of Oz dropped. And

(44:25):
it is also the last time that Tennessee beat Oklahoma.
Now all that might change this year behind the arm
of my guy Nico e Amaliva, which whole another drama
out here in southern California with his brother Madden. It's
more surrounding his pops. But they snatched him out of

(44:46):
Warren High School, which Nico went to, and now he's
at Long Beach Polly trying to be eligible. Mind you,
he already played a couple games for Warren, but the
dad fell out with the coach again, and now he's
at Long Beach Polly. Remember Nico left Warren, went to
Long Beach Polly, was gonna go to Alimany, but then
ended up back at Warren. So this time he snatched

(45:10):
them out their Their daughter's a high level volleyball player too,
she got snatched out of school. But that's a whole
nother story, y'all. Y'all can twitter Twitter that one. I
didn't mean to go off on a ram but anyway,
so you got Oklahoma playing against their former offensive coordinator
Josh Haipel, and you know, between Nico and Josh, like

(45:33):
we might be looking at a t Martin phil former
national championship situation. Maybe not this year, but next year
they gonna have a real shot. And on the other hand,
you got Oklahoma because I like Brent Venables, but Ralph,
would you say? So? They basically pushed like nobody was
mad about Dylan Gabriel leaving. They basically pushed Dylan Gabriel

(45:55):
out the door. Who's at Oregon now with the highest
completion percentage in the league. And now you got Jackson
Arnold at quarterback. And granted, there's a difference between a
fifty year senior at that point in time and a
you know, a freshman essentially first year starter at Oakland home.

(46:16):
Did they make the right move?

Speaker 2 (46:19):
Uh? I think for the for the future of the program. Probably,
because at this point you're having to make decisions on
do we lose our backup, which means do you sacrifice
a high floor for a high ceiling? Does that make sense.

Speaker 1 (46:42):
So this was like firing who did who did Tampa
Bay fire? What was it? Raheem Morris? They fired Raheem Morris,
I think while while he was doing a good job,
to hire Dirk Cutter.

Speaker 2 (46:54):
Yeah. But so it's like this in dealerno deal, Right,
So in dealer no deal, you get an offer for
three hundred and fifty k. Okay, that's that's money in hand.
That's money in hand. But you have the million dollar
case left and you have the one dollar case left.

(47:16):
So that's a situation you're in, Like you don't want
to lose a million dollars, but you don't actually have
a million dollars.

Speaker 1 (47:27):
Right, what are you doing in that situation?

Speaker 2 (47:33):
I'm taking them. I'm taking the three hundred and fifty
k because it's a guarantee. And so I think a
lot of these schools are having to face the fact that,
like our floor will drop out if we lose our
backup quarterback, we'll lose if Dylan Gabriel was to get
hurt and there's no Jackson Arnold there, then we lose
the ability to even compete for a college football playoff spot.

(47:56):
And now you can afford to lose a game or
two in the regular season because the College Football Playoff
includes twelve and then ultimately fourteen teams, So you are
going to always opt for the higher floor rather than
not having a floor and walking the tightrope of you know,
because depth has been taken from you. You know, unless

(48:18):
you bring in a quarterback who is comfortable waiting their
turn like an arch manning, you're gonna be in a
position where you lose your five star recruit if your
senior uses up his entire eligibility. So you've had schools
have to make this decision, like Kansas State and like Oklahoma,
and it's tough because then you watch your guy go

(48:41):
off and have a ton of success in a situation
that's maybe better for them, But you don't want to
have the bottom drop out on you. You don't want
to get stuck with that one dollar. So you're gonna
take the three hundred and fifty K. And I don't
blame Oklahoma for it, but hindsight is going to be
so annoying for all of these schools that go through this.

Speaker 1 (49:01):
Every single dude, Kansas State with Will Howard might be
looking at that you might have Yeah, there's a there's
a few schools that are gonna that could have buyers
remorse at this point in time. But this Oklahoma team
is the same team that struggled with Houston and Tulsa,
who had the opportunity to beat them in the fourth
quarter or at least take a lead deep into the

(49:23):
fourth quarter, and they didn't. Oklahoma's defense held up. But
with Tennessee, who's been scoring a lot of points, their
defense looks really good. Ralph, I just don't know if
like it. Just this is only a seven point spread,
and so we're so we're not gonna pick the spread,

(49:45):
but we will pick the winner. I like Nico, I don't.
I do believe that he's gonna turn the ball over
this game like he did against and ce State where
he had two picks, because just just because he's a
first time starter. And I think that Tennessee is good

(50:06):
and they will beat some like they're gonna beat Alabama
or beat somebody like that this year, who's a really
good football team. But I think that this is the
game they lose, Ralph.

Speaker 2 (50:17):
You think that this is the game Tennessee loses? Yes?
Oh wow, yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 (50:23):
I think I'm a hostile environment and even though Tennessee
is really good, I think that, like some of these
teams have to find losses, right, because they're all not
gonna go undefeated, and I don't think that. And then
being that, I believe that Tennessee with their with their schedule, right,

(50:43):
they have Oklahoma, then they got Arkansas, Florida. They're not
gonna lose to either one of those. They got Alabama,
they could lose to Kentucky, I guess technically not losing
the Mississippi State. Then they got Georgia, UTEP and Bandy.
So there's only a couple spots for them to lose games.
And I actually think that they're either gonna beat Bama
or Georgia. So if they beat Bama or Georgia, they

(51:05):
gotta find losses elsewhere because this is a young team,
young quarterback. I'm younger quarterback team, So like, they gotta
find losses somewhere, and I think that this is the
spot where I can find one.

Speaker 2 (51:16):
Maybe the one thing that Oklahoma has going for it
is they're surrendering two yards per rush this year. The
competition hasn't been great, but I'm more afraid of Oklahoma's
inability to score. I think if Tennessee finds a way
to score forty percent of their season average, which is
like sixty six at this point, then you're talking about
a team that gets to twenty eight to thirty points.

(51:39):
Do you think Oklahoma can score twenty eight to thirty
I don't, so maybe they don't cover. But I'm going
with Tennessee, all right.

Speaker 1 (51:48):
But uh, but we are going to be interested to
see how that boys said Cedric Bailey plays on the
defensive end. So next game up, we got Georgia Tech
at Louisville. This is a game where Georgia Tech pushed
Louisville to the limit. Last year, they had to score
sixteen points in the fourth quarter just to win a

(52:09):
thirty nine to thirty four game. And you look at
what Brent Key has been able to do with this
yellow jacket offense, and you're just wondering when you're gonna
get a chance to see this season explosion on defense

(52:30):
and on and on offense as well. And in that game,
they actually got explosive plays on out of the pass
game and the run game. And this year is quarterback
Hays King is a year better. And I don't know, Ralph,
if we are going to like, I'm confused about this

(52:50):
game a little bit because Louisville's offense. They have been
offense first, but this year it feels like that they
and it looks like that they're playing a better defense.
They're only two to zero so far, but they played
app State of Well, Austin p and Jacksonville State and
this year Ralph. Whenever we've seen teams that weren't playing

(53:13):
good competition, yet as soon as they run up in
the good competition, there's a problem. So I and Georgia
Tech has at least been tested by Power five opponents.
They lost the game to Syracuse and that obviously they
weren't gonna go undefeated. But this feels like a game
that they can absolutely win, even though Louisville is favored

(53:35):
by ten and a half points.

Speaker 2 (53:38):
Yeah, I'm not sure that I love the spread.

Speaker 1 (53:41):
No, but oh that's spread. It's tricky. No, that spread
looks wild.

Speaker 2 (53:46):
I also think for the second year in a row,
and I don't know who is in charge of roster
building at Louisville. I don't know how involved brom is
in it, but they are finding guys who aren't necessarily
stars where they're at and fitting them into a system
where they play like stars. And Louisville's got a couple
of defenders who were role players that they they're gonna

(54:07):
be all conference.

Speaker 1 (54:09):
They're gonna be all ACC like Tremel Logan. Yeah he
didn't he what.

Speaker 2 (54:13):
Did he do at USA? I don't think he ever
had a season where he was dominant.

Speaker 1 (54:18):
No, right now, he's one of the best pass rushers
in the ACC.

Speaker 2 (54:22):
Yeah, and so they did that with Jawar Jordan, they
did it with Jack Plumber. Tyler Shuck looks like he's
coming into his own. So the way they build this
team is impressive to me. And I think it's at
home and they are a very different team at home
than they are on the road. The problem is, they
got like five straight ACC games that were one score games,
so ten and a half is a lot. Makes me

(54:45):
want to go with Georgia Tech. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (54:48):
That now, I feel like I want to believe that
this is a special season for Georgia Tech. I do,
and I think that they're battle tested enough, and they've
already beaten Florida State, which doesn't look like that great
of a win now, but I do think that they're

(55:10):
gonna get that They're going to that, even though that
they can't win the a c C, that they're gonna
make sure other people don't win the a c C.

Speaker 2 (55:18):
That's a great point.

Speaker 1 (55:21):
And so Louis Louisville is gonna be able to stand
a loss and go out and beat Miami too. So
I think that we're looking at a situation where Georgia
Tech wins this football game.

Speaker 2 (55:34):
Ralph, Oh right, wow, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm not
gonna go with you that far, but I will take
I will take the points in the yellow jackets.

Speaker 1 (55:45):
So who do you Which quarterback do you think is
going to be better in this game? Tyler Shuck or
and I'm I'm I'm so proud of myself for consistently
pronouncing this kid's name right or Haines king over at
Georgia Tech.

Speaker 2 (56:00):
Ridgia Tech has had a kind of a weird thing
where they have not generated a turnover yet, and you
pointed it out as being one of the main reasons
why they were going to struggle against Syracuse, and you
ended up being very right about that. I think we
were going to run into that same situation. I do
think both quarterbacks can hit three hundred yards though.

Speaker 1 (56:19):
Yeah, yeah, And I want both of these quarterbacks to
be able to have success. And I really I have
an affinity for and rooting for Tyler Shuck heavily, and
because he's been through so much adversity, and when guys
bounce back from a lot of adversity, I always want
them to have some success. Like he's been injured way

(56:41):
too many times at this point, and how.

Speaker 2 (56:44):
Many coaches have asked him to go run the ball.
When you look at Tyler Shucker, you're like, man, I
would love to see that quarterback run the ball.

Speaker 1 (56:54):
Hey, And he was timid to run when he first
got to Oregon and now he is not, which.

Speaker 2 (56:59):
Is easy because he's done broke every bone in his
body trying to do it.

Speaker 1 (57:04):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (57:04):
But I mean he's toughened up for sure, yep.

Speaker 1 (57:08):
Next game up Utah at Oklahoma State. And I know
that I've talked a lot about Utah going into the
Big twelve and dominating the Big twelve. Duh. It feels
pretty obvious that that's what's gonna happen. And I know
that there's nothing that the Big Twelve fans hate more
than the idea that an outsider that didn't even want
to be there in the first place, because Utah didn't

(57:30):
is gonna come in and just and just dominate the conference.
So they are rooting on Utah's downfall. But here's the truth,
Like Utah, as good as they've been, they haven't exactly
been a great road team, not historically and definitely not
last year because twenty of the twenty three losses for

(57:51):
Utah ses twenty eighteen have come away from Salt Lake
City and ris Eco Stadium. Which is, if you guys
get a chance to go see either their game against
BYU or against another name brand opponent in right ecles,
absolutely do it. I know you probably don't think that
it's that big of a deal. It is one of
the best college football environments in the country. And if

(58:16):
they get a seven to ten point lead and they
get a chance to just ground and pound, this is
like I don't know if anybody got a chance to
see the O'Malley fight this last weekend in the UFC
where vocal check how you say is his name? I mean,
he just he just laid on top of him and
just he just made it ugly. Daniel Cormier, the fight

(58:40):
just laid on him, wrestled them, hugged them, grabbed him,
put him in backpacks, put him in holds, took him
down Like there was no real like beating. It was
just the just the dominating, just just frustrating matchup. And
that's what Utah does to you. And especially with their

(59:01):
thirty eight and a half year old quarterback Cam Rising
on his sixteenth year of college football. He is allegedly
gonna be healthy for the game. And Isaac Wilson did
not do poorly in this game. But against Oklahoma State,
I do believe to win, they're gonna need Cam Rise.

Speaker 2 (59:22):
They got a mature offense for sure. The Michael Bernard
been contributing for that team for six seasons, Brent Keith,
he's not young, you know. And it's nice that Oklahoma
State has Alan Bowman on the other side. And I
think Alan Bowman that has had the best tweet of

(59:44):
the college football season with his backpack on before the year,
like can't wait to start in nineteenth grade. It's such
an anomaly that I think we're probably two years away
from being gone completely. But these you know, quarterbacks that
can rent cars, it's a you know, it's a unique phenomenon.

(01:00:06):
Here's the deal. You were right. Utah is a very
different team on the on the road than they are
at home. The thing that it took Utah forever to
overcome in the Pac twelve was winning in La. That
was there that was like, hey, are are we ever
going to take Utah seriously? Because they can't win in
so Cow Once.

Speaker 1 (01:00:24):
They figure that out. USC four in a row, four in.

Speaker 2 (01:00:29):
A row, three of them on Lincoln Riley and one
of them without Cam Rising. So you know, I think
that Oklahoma State is not USC. They're not soft, they
are resilient. Alan Bowman he's got a bunch of three
hundred yard passing games in the last twelve months, but

(01:00:50):
he throws a lot of interceptions. You cannot do that
against Utah. But I'm I'm going to go against every
instinct that I have that Utah just gonna come in
and wreck this conference, and I'm gonna take I'm gonna
take Oklahoma State minus two and a half. What a loser.

Speaker 1 (01:01:11):
We found as a sucker board every day, Oli Gordon
is averaging less than three yards of carry, brother, and
I don't think that that's gonna get a whole lot
better against Utah. Give me the ute. Wait, no, they're
they're there. That's my all right, something that we did

(01:01:33):
not expect. So Ralph, there has been a lot of
Dylan Riola hype and they're playing Illinois this week, so
Illinois at Nebraska. Dylan Riola is like him. Him and
Damon are friends. They they text and stuff. So I'm

(01:01:54):
going to say this with all the love impossible because
I know it's dad, and I say this with all
the love and everything. The the Patrick Mahomes costplay is
getting creepy, like him doing every single move that Patrick

(01:02:17):
Mahomes does in the way that he does it. It's
getting a little creepy, like it's giving cringe as the
kids would say, now, now, is that a great person
to be a role model and emulate after Yes, but
you know what it feels like. It feels like the
movie Cool Runnings. Do you remember when they were trying

(01:02:38):
to get everything together and then they were like and
they were like the Swiss, the Swiss, the Swiss do
it like this, the Swiss do it like this. And
then finally Senka had to tell him, yo, yo, we
can't be the Swiss. We got to be the best
Jamaicans that we can and that's what Dylan Ryola has

(01:03:01):
to be because there are lessons that you can learn
from the Swiss. There are lessons that you can learn
that that where they the organization, the timing, the attention
to detail when you're when you're learning something new how
to quarterback at the college level. But you gotta lean
into you because the because the the uh Patrick Mahomes

(01:03:27):
cosplay is only going to backfire when you're not Patrick Mahomes.
And it doesn't mean that he'll be won't be a
great quarterback, but now he's consistently going to be compared
to Patrick Mahomes, which obviously he's given him a lot
more star power and a lot more credit at this
point in time than probably he has earned. But the

(01:03:47):
reality is there's only like, you gotta be you, and
he's not being him right now. He's being Patrick Mahomes light.
And when there is adversity run into which every young
quarterback does at some point in time, then they're gonna
be hyper critical of you too. You ain't Patrick Mahomes.
It's gonna take a turn whenever it goes poorly, because

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at some point time for every quarterback, they all go
through struggles.

Speaker 2 (01:04:14):
I'm gonna and you know, I haven't been as high
on Dylan Rayola as most people. Yes, correct, I'm gonna
defend him on this one. You should never protect a
kid from future embarrassment. Never. There's a whole generation of

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running backs that are sniffing their fingers after touchdowns that
are gonna look back on their highlights and be like,
oh wow, I was a moron. Yeah, Like there's to
get the strap thing, which I thought until until or
the strapped up. I thought until like two months ago,

(01:05:01):
that they were sheathing swords. That's what I thought. Every
difference back.

Speaker 1 (01:05:07):
You thought they were cheating swords. Yes, no, dude, dude,
that's like the seatbelt you strapped up.

Speaker 2 (01:05:15):
Yeah, but like I you put a seatbelt on another man.
I don't understand the celebration, like it doesn't. It's never
looked cool to me. And I know I know that
in five years they're gonna look back and be like, what, wow.

Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
Ralph, have you seen this one? Now, I'm gonna show.

Speaker 2 (01:05:30):
You, oh my gosh, showing the piece.

Speaker 1 (01:05:37):
Yeah, I like that one. I like that one.

Speaker 2 (01:05:40):
That one, or there's a whole like there's a group
of kids from like twenty sixteen to twenty twenty one
that in every single family photo, they're exposing their lower gun.
And every single time I saw a kid do that,
I was like, oh.

Speaker 1 (01:06:01):
I have a bunch of photos of my kids, of Caden,
my thirteen year old, doing that. Yeah, and I'm like
now yeah, Like I was like, what are you throwing
throwing up?

Speaker 2 (01:06:12):
Are are you?

Speaker 1 (01:06:14):
Are you the are you? The Woodland Hills gang gangster?
What what are we doing?

Speaker 2 (01:06:22):
Hey? There's nothing better than being able to put all
those photos in a slide show and then make make
a kid feel bad about himself on his wedding night.

Speaker 1 (01:06:33):
Oh yes, I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:37):
It happened with people with bell bottoms, It happened with
people with Jinko jeans, it happened with the middle part,
it happened with the high fade. Like, let these kids
look and Dylan Ryol is doing it like on a
global stage right now. He's gonna look back on it
in ten years in interviews, he's gonna have to answer
these questions. That's funny to me, But all these kids

(01:06:57):
just show. It goes to show you the amount of
influence that these athletes have. This is an extreme version
of that because he's got the wrap around shades, he's
got the same haircut all these kids with Brocket.

Speaker 1 (01:07:08):
If he does go to the NFL when they play
each other and be like, oh, what do you think
Pat bat like listen, listen us and it's cute. I
love that somebody wants to be like me.

Speaker 2 (01:07:20):
If Dylan wants to go to opposing stadiums and they're
calling him timu Pat, then whatever, like that's just.

Speaker 1 (01:07:27):
T Pat. Oh boy. But this Illinois team that they're
playing against only has five sacks through the first three games,
but they pressured according opposing quarterbacks to making bad decisions.
They got six interceptions so far. And Brett Bielima, who
is mad at me right now? Ralph like actively where

(01:07:53):
because it was a year ago there uh I got
reached out to by their I s I the about
wanting to hop on a phone conversation because he didn't
liked something. No it was his first year in Illinois
when he called his team terrible and all of this stuff,
and I was like, this is wrong. So he still
hasn't reached out. But Brett, I'm here to talk fam

(01:08:17):
Noah hard feelings, but his head cut, but his quarterback
Luke Autmar He's shown he can run a little bit.
And when I'm looking at this game, Ralph, I the
Nebraska thing has to end at some point point in time, Like, yes,
they're probably going to go to have their first non

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losing season in the last seven years, but like they're
off them being off to a four and oh start
feels like I need to bring in Dan Dan Lanning
and so he can give Illinois the pregame speech. Hey, amen, amen,

(01:09:00):
and the fairy tale's over. The fairy Tale's over Illinois
for the win.

Speaker 2 (01:09:08):
Oh for the win? Wow? Yes, what's the spread on
this seven?

Speaker 1 (01:09:14):
I will pull it up now.

Speaker 2 (01:09:18):
Seven and a half. Okay, give me, give me Illinois
to cover. But I you know how I am. If
I say something before the season, I got to ride
with it. Even if I get new information, I will
just I will just get embarrassed by sticking with what
I said. I believe Nebraska is gonna go into the
Ohio State game seven and oh, I think they're gonna
get so much hype over that. So I do think

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they'll win. Seven is a lot. Give me a field goal.
I think Luke Altmeer's ability to run and their ability
to pressure Dylan Ryola like no one else has so far,
will keep this game close. But it is in Lincoln,
and I think they get a field goal win.

Speaker 1 (01:09:53):
This is the best defense and the best team that
Dylan's faced. He gonna run into some problems in this game,
all right, Next game up Michigan, Well, USC at Michigan.
Now USC is six and one in this matchup since
Richard Nixon took office, and they haven't played since two

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thousand and seven, and Michigan's last win came in nineteen
eighty nine. But now, thanks to realignment, we're gonna see
this game about six seven times a year. I'm sorry,
every decade. I was like six seven times a year.
What the hell are you talking about, George. But the
most interesting part about this game is what Michigan did
because they made the change to Alex Orgy at quarterback,

(01:10:39):
who people thought was going to start the year they
started with Davis Warren and last and last week Ralph
They made a change and he completed every single pass
he threw. Three were just to the other team, but
he was eleven for fourteen and he has six picks
through their three games against obviously last week and then

(01:11:06):
they played Texas before that and then Fresno State before that,
so he's got six picks already, and three of them
came last week. Even though that they were able to
win the game by double digits and alex Orgy being
that they started Davis Warren and we know what kind
of the knock on alex Orgy was. I don't think

(01:11:26):
that they believe that they can throw the ball at
a high level with alex Orgy at quarterback and de'anton
Lynn has this USC team looking much better, but they
were playing against Utah State who lost their head coach,
like that team is a disaster right now in terms
of organizationally, and they'll be they'll be back, but it's

(01:11:47):
gonna take a minute to regroup from the coach leaving
last minute transfer portal players. It was already gonna be
a tough year, but now it's even harder. And then
their first game was against LSU and LSU defenses hot
garbage offense is a little inconsistent too, because they're tackles
that were taught thought to be first round guys or

(01:12:09):
not playing like first round talents right now. So I
don't like even though LSU is ranked higher I don't
think that they're as good as their ranking is, and
so when it comes to USC, this team still feels
very unproven, even though I have them ranked I think
inside the top ten or so on the Unaffraid Show rankings.

(01:12:31):
Hold up, I'll tell you exactly on the undershow. On
the Unaffraid Show rankings for this week, I have them
at Yeah. On Unafraid Show rankings for this week, I
have USC at number five, but that's only because of

(01:12:52):
what they've earned and not necessarily where I think that
this team is because I don't rank based upon projects.
When we put them into our model, it comes out
that USC they beat a pretty good team in terms
of LSU, while you have guys like Ohio State, Ole

(01:13:14):
Miss that haven't played anybody with a pulse. So no,
you're not going to be ranked higher until you play
somebody and win, because we don't know whether you are
a collection of talent or whether you are a good
football team.

Speaker 2 (01:13:26):
True. Yeah, I love No, I love that Michigan is
in this transition period right now going into into playing USC.
Because it it might look like it might look like
that gives USC a clear advantage, but actually what it
creates as a situation where Michigan has to rely on

(01:13:48):
their strengths, and that is something that us everyone wants
to know. Can USC stop a team that's bigger and
more physical than them? Everyone wants to know that because LSU,
for as big and physical as they could be, Brian
Kelly wants to throw the ball fifty eleven times a game. Yep,
Michigan's not even going to have that option. They're going

(01:14:09):
to be coming in like Utah last year with the
pig Farmer.

Speaker 1 (01:14:12):
Yep. They are going to line up and Marshawn Lynch
run through a mofo's face over yeah, and over and
over and over and over and over again.

Speaker 2 (01:14:22):
But this is the pig farmer. This is like a
dragon farmer. Like, this is a big dude, you know,
in like extreme physical talent, ability to run the ball
on his own when.

Speaker 1 (01:14:31):
And when he pulls it on them options he can
step to the crib.

Speaker 2 (01:14:36):
Yeah, but it's not a good time to also be
one dimensional if you get behind. So I think the
first quarter is going to tell pretty big story. And
if Michigan can hang in that first quarter, then I
think they'll keep it close the whole way. I'm actually
gonna take Michigan plus five and a half. I don't
feel great about it, but I don't think anybody picking

(01:14:58):
this game should feel very good because of the amount
of unknowns.

Speaker 1 (01:15:02):
Yep, I am taking Michigan for the outright win. I
think that I think that people are overvaluing this USC's defense,
which is much improved. Right, But you don't go from
being like the one hundred and twenty some defense in
the in the in the country to be in the
top ten defense like you can get to the thirties
or so. But that's really about it, and that means

(01:15:25):
that sometimes you're gonna get punched in the teeth. And
this is where they are right now, where they're trying
to develop the level of physicality because they have not
faced the level of physicality that they are going to
face against Michigan since they last played Utah and the
most Oregon Oregon too, but but Oregon was throwing the

(01:15:46):
ball around as well. Where Michigan is just gonna line
up and if they can pinstate you like they did
last year where they ran the ball thirty two straight times,
they will do it.

Speaker 2 (01:15:57):
Yes, And the most annoying thing about Michigan's fifthity that
that USC is gonna have to face on the offensive
side is that it's gonna be boys from SoCal that
are trying to run down Miller Moss.

Speaker 1 (01:16:08):
Because yes, you're gonna have because Mason Graham from Servite
High School who played with t Mac and with Ben
at the tight end and Noah for Feeda, they were
all on the same high school football team. It was amazing.
And then you got Cameron Brant, Sierra Canyon product, who's
out there as well. He's out there balling, so.

Speaker 2 (01:16:31):
Yeah, and they didn't think that they had the option
to stay in Southern California.

Speaker 1 (01:16:36):
It was never ane talent.

Speaker 2 (01:16:38):
Yeah. So now USC has the pressure on USC here
is to be physical enough to show kids from so
Cal that the option isn't go to the Big Ten
because you can't stay home. It's that no USC has
become a Big Ten school and they've become an option

(01:16:59):
for us. There's a lot of pressure on USC in
this game to perform and and and not get Miller
Moss killed because that's going to affect their recruiting moving forward.

Speaker 1 (01:17:11):
Yep. But now we move on to our record and
our game picks for the year. Ralph, you are the
tabulator of our records. You are the fiduciary man. You
are the treasurer, the the tabulator. Where are we at

(01:17:32):
right now?

Speaker 2 (01:17:34):
Okay? So, uh to catch everybody up, we do five
games against the spread every single week. These last couple
of weeks we've done, we've done six. Uh. You went
two and three the first week, four and won the
second week, and then you went two and four last week.
Oregon came and got you that second one by blowing
out Oregon State. So that puts you at eight and

(01:17:56):
eight on the year. Uh. I went four and one,
four and one, and then last week just fell off
a cliff, went to and for even disagreed with you
about Oregon Oregon State. Uh. So I am sitting at
ten and six. So I got a two game lead
on you. I had a very strong start in the
first two weeks. You had a really really good week two.

(01:18:17):
This week we're we We're on some opposite stuff, so
it might be your opportunity to catch up.

Speaker 1 (01:18:22):
Okay, So just for clarification, so we got Illinois at
Nebraska minus seven and a half. Give me the line
I I have.

Speaker 2 (01:18:34):
I have a line I and the spread. But you
you said, went out right, that doesn't count for anything.
But I do Thinkraska is gonna win.

Speaker 1 (01:18:40):
Okay, Tennessee minus seven at Oklahoma, give me the Sooners.

Speaker 2 (01:18:47):
I think Tennessee is gonna run them off the field
in Normanton.

Speaker 1 (01:18:51):
Damn, that will.

Speaker 2 (01:18:55):
All right.

Speaker 1 (01:18:57):
NC State at Clemson minus twenty And on the bets
of the week, I said to stay away from this game,
stay away in terms of betting, but it.

Speaker 2 (01:19:06):
Is on this list. Yes, so we're picking it. There's
no money at stake for this. I know this game
is usually close, but I don't trust a first time starter.
I don't, so I'm actually gonna take Clemson in the
three touchdowns.

Speaker 1 (01:19:24):
I'm gonna take Clemson into twenty two.

Speaker 2 (01:19:27):
That's wild.

Speaker 1 (01:19:29):
Yes, And it's not like I like Kate Klubney. I
just think NC State is not very good.

Speaker 2 (01:19:35):
Yeah. I think you're right. This quarterback might be a
better suited for this offense. But in the first his
first start, he gotta be at Clemson. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:19:45):
Yeah, yeah, that's because Somems' defense is still good. And
that Georgia game was a lot closer than that thirty
four to whatever it was score thirty four to six.
Maybe thirty four to three. Yeah, it was a lot
close or than that.

Speaker 2 (01:20:02):
All right.

Speaker 1 (01:20:02):
We got Georgia Tech at Louisville minus ten and a half.
Give me Georgia Tech. I called it for the win,
so I'm damn sure taking ten and a half.

Speaker 2 (01:20:16):
I'm using every bit of that ten and a half
to say Louisville might win this game by ten, but
I gotta go with the Yellow Jackets, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:20:23):
We got Utah at Oklahoma State. Utah's Oklahoma States favored
by two and a half points. I am taking the Utes.
If this was a five and a half point spread,
I would still take the Utes as long as Cam
Rising plays, because Utah has been liars and he might

(01:20:46):
not even play. I believe he will because all the
brad crumbs are pointing to that, but I don't trust it.
I don't trust it until I see him take a
snap under center.

Speaker 2 (01:20:57):
Yeah, I'll give you that caveat for who were However,
twenty of twenty three Twenty of the twenty three Utah
losses since twenty eighteen have taken place on the road
or away. Not necessarily on the road, but neutral sites
are away from Salt Lake completely. They are not a
team I trust on the road. They are a team

(01:21:17):
that I believe will absolutely dominate in Salt Lake, and
they'll steal a game or two on the road. I
just don't think that this is going to be one
of them, especially if cam Riising is not one hundred
percent healthy. So I will take Oklahoma State minus two
and a half Michigan.

Speaker 1 (01:21:33):
Well, USC at Michigan minus five and a half points USC, Oh, no,
excuse me. USC is favored by five and a half points.
And this game's in the big house. Who are you taking, Ralph?
This game's in the big house. Yes, I thought this
game was in socow. I know, and it Yeah, I

(01:21:58):
had to look a couple of times because I noticed
when I said it earlier. You gotta look like he
messed up.

Speaker 2 (01:22:05):
Oh no, that's my bad. Then I feel even better
about about about Michigan plus five and a half at home.

Speaker 1 (01:22:11):
Yeah, I got Michigan. I think that they are gonna
be mad embarrassed after that Texas loss. They actually have
a head coach with a contract. Now I have all
sorts of clauses in it, but he got a contract.
Now give me Michigan for the win. No damn points,

(01:22:32):
But but I'm taking them though.

Speaker 2 (01:22:35):
Well, let's hope that this doesn't get clipped and make
us look stupid, because people could take quite a few
clips from last week and and make me look like
a moron.

Speaker 1 (01:22:45):
Hey, happens. Happens to everybody, Man, happens to everybody. Now, Oh,
now we have our over under contests because we have
an update and Ralph, can you explain to the people
how the contest works and who we have and everything else.

Speaker 2 (01:23:01):
Yeah, so about four episodes ago, we had an Overrated
Underrated draft for the season. You got to pick three
teams that you thought were overrated and bet against their
Vegas win total. So every single time that team loses
a game, you get five points or three points. Every
time that team loses the game, you get three points,
and then you get to pick three underrated teams. Every

(01:23:23):
time those teams win, you get three points. And then
at the end of the year, if anybody finishes a
game above their projected win total. So let's take Arizona
State for example. They're currently three and zero. Their predicted
win total was four and a half, right, so for
every full game they go above that. So if they
get to six wins, you're gonna get five points for

(01:23:46):
each full win they go above that, so the five
point stuff will come at the very end of the year.
But just for wins and losses, we get three points
each each drafted three teams, UH that were that we
thought were overrated, and three teams that we thought were
underrated so early early in the season, and I'm gonna

(01:24:07):
give a I'm gonna give a update on what those
teams are.

Speaker 1 (01:24:09):
I am right, host, bro I you you you are
going to win with the Arizona State pick alone, and
I'm gonna lose based upon that damn Florida pick.

Speaker 2 (01:24:19):
I'm getting some help to from that the pit Cardiac
kids behind Eli Holstein. But your three teams that you
thought would be overrated this year Clemson, so you get
three points for every Clemson loss. Their Vegas over under
was nine wins. Kansas State you get three points for
every Kansas State loss, and Iowa you get three points
for every Iowa loss. So you got too at that.

(01:24:42):
And then your underrated teams were Texas Tech who you
stole from me, UH, Florida and U c l A.
So for every win that Texas Tech, Florida or u
c l A gets you get three points. My three
overrated teams I thought were LSU, Florida State, in Michigan State.
God not Michigan State, Michigan. So so for every Michigan loss,

(01:25:06):
I get three points. For every Florida State loss, I
get three points. For every LSU loss, I get three points.
And then my underrated teams were Arizona State, Pittsburgh, and Stanford,
and I've been doing pretty well so far on those.

Speaker 1 (01:25:21):
I'm terrible at this game. We're gonna have to find
a new game by halfway through the season. We're gonna
have to redraft. It's gonna be a blowout.

Speaker 2 (01:25:31):
It's a bad first quarter of the season for you.
I'm currently through three weeks, including zero week. I am
currently leading you thirty six to eighteen, very much on
the back of Arizona State, Pittsburgh and Florida State. Like
those three teams have scored for me every single week.

Speaker 1 (01:25:50):
Rou and Florida State's gonna score again when they lose
to Colt as we get too.

Speaker 2 (01:25:57):
Yeah. So that that's our current update on the overrated
underrated contest. Oh I built a big.

Speaker 1 (01:26:02):
Lead, yes, yes, and UCLA plays LSU this weekend in Baton. Rouge.
Oh god, this is just horrendous. But anyways, you guys,
that is college football apostles. I just ended on just
such a negative note. It just took my whole energy down.

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You guys. Peace out. Catch you guys next week. Share
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