Week 4 Storylines: Theo Von + Diego Pavia, SEC Czar, Best QB, UCLA + VT Next Coach

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It is Week four in college football, but week three
is not completely put to bed. And on the College
Football Apostles today, we have to talk about what's going
on this week and revisit some firings, revisit CW, revisit
the ap pole people still doing ap pole things. Who

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is going to be the next head coach that is
going to be stolen from your university? Who are the
best teams in the country in all of these conferences,
and all of the rest of the great things that
happened in last week's college football and what's happening this
week in college football? Because this is the fun show.
I'm George Reister, He's Ralph Amsden, and this is the

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College Football Apostles. Make sure that you like, subscribe, get notifications,
and tell a friend about the show, and most importantly,
be one of us. So last week, Ralph, we got
some huge games. We had text saying him Notre Dame,
we had Tennessee, Georgia, we had Oregon Northwestern, we slip

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slipped one in there, and we had a bunch of
other things going as well. But what was your biggest
takeaways from last week?

Speaker 2 (01:23):
Okay, so I feel like I've learned this lesson forty
times now, but I'm learning it again this year. If
someone was unceremoniously fired for doing a bad job, or
they weren't a good coordinator somewhere else, the.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
Repackaging of them.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
Oh my, I guess like I feel like I learned
this every year. And it reminds me of that the
clip that Jason Bateman show when they're when they're like,
you know, people convolude themselves into believing that it could
work for them.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
Yeah, it never does, but it might work, but it might.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
David Cross quote because Matt Wells at Kansas State, No,
Todd Grantham at Oklahoma State, No, like not at all.
This it reminds me of when you were so adamant
about Colorado not hiring that the offensive coordinator under Carl.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
Durell, Yes, who came from Minnesota.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
Yes, and and and so like some of these some
of these hires that were, you know, clearly like, well
maybe it will work this time have been just absolutely
brutal so far this season.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
Yeah, So that that's uh, that's been my my main
main takeaway from what we've seen. The other thing, Uh,
my second takeaway is that apparently if you name your
child after the most exciting basketball player of all time
and the most exciting boxer of all time. They will
be exciting themselves because Jordan Tyson had two of these

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absolute freakiest highlight catches of the we and he put
two in one game. And I feel like that's so
unwise because people don't get to like respecting. You know,
maybe he'll do two a week every week and just
set the bar. But the high pointed, one handed catch
against the body was enough. That was enough for me

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to be like, Wow, this dude is different. And then
he adds the the leapover and the extension. Just incredible,
incredible plays. And I remember, and it has to be
just us, and I don't mean to gloat. We were
really the first ones on Jordan Tyson. We did a
whole five segment on how he was Colorado's only good player,

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not just good, but potentially great. Get him the ball
every time. And here we are four years later and
people talk are talking about him being a first round.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
Pick show I guess yes.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
And my third takeaway is is that Marcel Reid and
Devin Dampier are are for real, for real, for real
that that they've kind of taken over into that group
of quarterbacks that you know, now that we've got some
of these guys out of the way, that that maybe
we talked about too much. The ones we really should

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be talking about are at Cal and Utah and UH
and Texas A and M.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
Yeah. My biggest takeaways were Number one, that brands matter
too much. Brand like like that your name, brand value
matters way more than what you get put on the field,
because I mean, people over believe in Alabama after the

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Florida stay gain. Oh and I've even heard a guy
who I respected, who's really good at his job, Joe
Klatt talked about, Oh listen, I'm gonna give this team
the benefit of the doubt. Why why what have they
done through this beginning of the season to earn benefit
of the doubt to stay in the top ten. If

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you don't want to stay, if you don't want to
change your top ten based upon the actual results on
the field, I don't know what to tell you. And
why is Vanderbilt ranked so low right now? It is
perplexing to say.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
That that's interesting, that's interesting. They were exciting last year,
but we ultimately they finished what seven and six, and.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
So like ah, yeah, that was good. That was nice. Yeah,
and dude, and one slip up from them, ain't nobody
giving them the benefit of the doubt. They're gonna be
up out of there. The next one is that this
is the most exciting college football season we've ever seen ever.

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I mean, Lord, have mercy, any there is nobody that
you can stand on business with right now and say
I am one hundred percent sure that that's the best
team in the nation. Nobody right now. And then my
third biggest takeaway was just that. And I know that
this is gonna sound frustrating to some some people, but

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we need to stop like like being so like demanding
immediate results that sometimes it takes time to build things,
and sometimes you have to figure out that like your
team or your university is not that university that's going

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to be a competitive like like that you're gonna have
national championship aspirations every single year. Some years you're just
gonna be okay. Some years are just gonna be good.
That doesn't mean that you should go five and five
and seven, but the expectations you're gonna go ten and
two every single year, that ain't. I mean, if you're
a I always state that's not your reality. And then

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the last thing is is that the and I know
it's only supposed to have three, but the last one
is is that the power hours that be will try
to ruin college football like that that greed and power
corrupt college football. And with that, I mean this idea

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that all the conferences are going to do what the
ACC is doing, which is, oh, the teams that get
the highest TV ratings, they get the most money. And
it's just a self fulfilling prophecy of elitism that only
the people who are established at the time. It's like

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a class, like a cast system. Either you are in
the upper echelon of the cast or or you're nothing.
And that's actually the thing that will kill college football
and my team right you know where I played at,
the Oregon Ducks. They used to be a have not

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and now they are a have like they've grown up
little in that that could flex your muscles all this stuff.
And even though that there was advantages, would have Nike
infil Night and all that stuff like, you still had
to build it. And there have been rough patches, there
have been great things that have happened, everything in between
and other and if you unevenly distribute the money. There

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is no chance to do that, and you are going
to ruin college football when in reality, competitive balance like
what we have more of this year. That's actually the
thing that is great for college football. When you can
go from sugar to shit and shit to sugar in

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one year, like Florida State may be doing right now,
that is the greatness of college football. Well of what
college football can be. Excuse me, because it's not that
right now. I agree with you.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
I think at too many of these university presidents and
conference commissioners are treating college football like it's a gas
station bathroom. Like it's not enough to just go in
there and do your business. You've got to carve your
name in the door to prove you are. Like Greg
Sanki was here. Yeah, someone carves Brett your mark and

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and Greg Sanki comes in.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
It's like is a loser? You know?

Speaker 2 (09:26):
Yeah, It's just it's exactly. They they just want people
to know that they're they're moving stuff around. It's already great.
We don't we don't have to do things just to
do things. We don't have to do that. And so
you know, because.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
Somebody is always gonna have something to complain about. Like
they're like, oh my god, USC is unhappy, of Ohio
State is unhappy. Uh, Alabama's complaining about their schedule. So
what shut up and leave then, I mean, damn, everybody

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is going to be complaining about something. Think about your
actual life, right is you go to a restaurant and
that is a highly regarded restaurant. I don't like the
seasoning on the on the food because my wife makes
it a different way. My mom used to make it

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that way. My son puts a little more fat in
in his sausage than the local barbecue place does. So
I'm complaining, Oh, I don't like it. The oh I
don't really like honey barbecue sauce. I'm like mine with
a little more hickory. So it was just okay. And
then the next person is like, bruh, it's the gret's
greatest meal I've ever had in my whole life. Somebody else, Yeah,

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it was solid, it was good. So is the restaurant
supposed to change the entire menu, change their their sauce
because they got a complaint from one out of every
twenty five customers when like, when their average rating is
four point seven four point eight, and they're gonna change

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it because of the point two. Absolutely not.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
It's interesting. It's interesting because I think your mindset on
this is it's very like if you give a mouse
a cookie, like you start acquiescing to somebody, you got
to do it for everybody, and then and then you're
just in this massive echo chamber of unfairness. And I'm
over here looking at it as more of like a
legacy play, like there are people in charge who just
want to prove that they existed, you know, like the

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reason Donald Trump wants to buy Greenland, you know, because
it's like evidence evidence that I was here and.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
Did it Very America.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
Yeah, yeah, but that's proof that you were there, you
you made a dent, even if it's symbolic. And so
I think a lot of people are extraordinarily concerned with legacy.
But I also think you're right. I think once you
start giving in, it opens the door for people to
think that they deserve to be heard in some way.
And you know, maybe some of these colleges are like

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many democracies, but for the most part, when you give
power over to a conference or over to an organizing
institution like the NCUBLEA. Then participate, just participate because it
is you know, And at the same time, it would
be nice to know that they were serving the fans

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of the individual institutions over the television audience at large,
because that's the hardest thing to swallow. Eleven PM kickoffs
from Michigan State are not good. Nine am kickoffs for
Oregon are not good. But will make those sacrifices so
that everybody can, you know, get rich and that you know,
that's fine, but you leave your audience, your actual audience,

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way more things in room to complain about when they
know that they're not the priority.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
That's a fact, Jack, That's a fact. All right, all right,
So now let's get to the things of the of
the week. Where are we starting at, Ralph?

Speaker 2 (13:10):
Well, I want to know about your trip to your
You were your studios in Miami.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
No no, no, no, no, no no. So see what I.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
Want to ask you is you had your first weekend
on the CW.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
How'd it go? It was long? First of all, it
was long. So it was the South Florida Miami pre
game and we were supposed to do a thirty minute
pregame show, halftime postgame. We knew that there were some
potential thunderstorms. I had a feeling in my gut that

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we were going to get a stoppage for lightning, and
we did, and then time kept getting pushed back and
so we ended up on doing like an extra hour
and thirty seven minutes of work. Now, granted, I was
not mad at that. I was so excited to be
there and I was happy. I felt like I was

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in my bag. It was and I got more and
more comfortable as the show went on. It was fun.
I got extra I got an hour and a half
of extra reps, which was amazing. Yeah, so I can't wait.
Uh this week it'll be Georgia Tech Temple pre game.
So I'm juice.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
How did you like working with with with your your
your colleagues there?

Speaker 1 (14:36):
So I liked So that was my first time around.
Michael Bumpus liked him a lot. He's super cool, good,
good guy. First time working with was from the Northwest. Yeah,
he went to Wazoo and then he lives in Seattle,
does radio, TV stuff out there and all of that.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
Just the Washington Haters club out there.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
And then Mike yeam dude. I felt like I was
watching Tom Brady play football, like, get a chance to
watch his preparation. Get a chance, dude, Mike Yam is
a pros pro. It is incredible to watch his dude
work like he's part producer, part like he understands the

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blocks and the script like he gets it. And I
was just sitting there and initially because this was my
first time doing a pregame show like that in a while, right,
so it felt like initially that I was playing Frogger,
like I was just trying not to get run over
by the semi. And then when we had the the

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the break, the lightning delay, Oh man, that's when it started.
I was like, okay, let me let me spread these
let me spread these wings. Fly young butterfly fly.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
I will say, you asked me about like did you
have the right pair of shoes going in? Uh? And
then I found that to be incredibly distracting.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
What do you mean. I don't think if we I
just don't think if we.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
Had had that conversation, I wouldn't have been staring at
your shoes the whole time.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
Oh, you asked.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
Me beforehand, and then so I for the entire first segment,
I was just staring at your shoes, like, did we
make the right choice here?

Speaker 1 (16:25):
Why was I we made the right choice? Because them
choice was covered with the Cole hansl I was ready
to stand for an hour and a half straight.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
So anytime Mike gam gets brought up, I do love
Probably the thing I like most about him, he's so
good at his job, but that he used his medium
and the you know, the niche notoriety. That being the
host of you know, all the pac twelve shows brings
you to write a children's book called fried Rice and Marinera.
And so if anybody wants to support Mike Yam, that's

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that's watching this podcast or listen to this podcast in
a book.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
Yes you did tell me that. Yeah, so, and my
six year old likes the book a lot. That's cool.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
Shout out Mikeyam, children's author and Tom Brady of halftime
postgame pregame shows.

Speaker 1 (17:21):
Yes, all right, what's up next?

Speaker 2 (17:25):
So your boy Deshaun Foster got fired, and I just
want to know how you feel about it. You went
out there, he interviewed him. They had a really really
strong ending to last season. They got an exciting addition
at quarterback. We did some pretty extensive previews of that team,
and then they went out and they just didn't have it.

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It just wasn't there. So I just want to know
what you're thinking and feeling about that. And I know
you're kind of close to the U c l A
program as well.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
All right, So on one hand, I'm disappointed. I was
hoping that he would get a little bit longer, like
a couple weeks after the bye week, to try to
get things fixed, because there was a lack of you know, physicality,
a lack of tackling all of that stuff. But at

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the same time, it's a results space business and people
and people are very very impatient in college football, and
so I understand why it happened. But I also look
at the world that we live in now, because you're
operating in the transfer portal. It would be like if

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Florida State had the ability to fire Mike Norvel last year,
it was just so cost prohibitive that they couldn't. Like
there's a world where he would have gotten fired last year,
and then this Alabama thing doesn't happen. So DeShawn finished

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the season well last year and then opened up bad
again this year. So and he's a young, first time
head coach, and it's really in his first year because
last year was he got the job so late he
didn't even get a chance bringing his own recruiting class,
none of that. So maybe he transferred portal bad because

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of that. So you didn't even give the dude a
chance to fix it. But I do understand, like the
malcontent of UCLA fans, so he bore the brunt of
chip Kelly's lack of success that he ended up the

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whipping boy for what happened with chip Kelly. So while
he's responsible for the product on the field, I do
believe as well that you have to give somebody an
opportunity to fix it. Well, so excuse me, you don't

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have to, but you probably should, like that would be prudent.
And when this next coach comes in, they're gonna have patience.
And the reason why they're gonna have patients is because
they're probably going to hire a If I were them
outside of de'anton lynn, I'm probably not going at the

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top of my list from guys who are not experienced
head coaches. I need somebody who is a rebuilder. This
is why some of my top choices were Chris Peterson,
retired head coach because he built at Boise, he built
at Washington. He's a do the right thing kind of guy.

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I have Kalani Satak on there, build the right, build
it kind of guy. People put Jonathan Smith on there,
But I don't think Jonathan Smith would necessarily, even though
he's a so call guy, leave Michigan State for another
big ten job when you're kind of in the same situation,
you know what I mean, unless his staff is like yo,

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like yo, like, let's go to Cali, bro we can
do it.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
Can they afford his staff? Can you seel? Even if
UCLA could afford him, could they afford his staff?

Speaker 1 (21:31):
Uh? I think that there's enough money surrounding UCLA and
invest it in their success that would be invested in
their success of the right hire. I hate the Dave
A rand the thing, and only because he hasn't had
enough success at Baylor. That's the only reason I think

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he's a good coach. But I mean, it's it looks
like it's working at Baylor now, but their defense is
still trash. So like you need somebody who's going to
build it, who is going to put together a hard nosed,
physical football team that's going to be a relentless recruiter,

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but not be willing to take shortcuts, like you need
a Matt Campbell kind of guy there, but with enough
juice for la. This is why I kind of liked
if you were going to go non experienced head coach,
which I don't think is a good idea, But Tash
Lupoi might be an answer because his his recruiting is

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going to put good players on the on the field.
And I think he's smart enough to know that he's
not the smartest guy in the room and put And
he's been around Alabama, He's been around he's been in
the NFL, like he's been around so many coaches that
is rolodex is probably pretty deep. And that's where I
think that Deshaun Foster may have struggled, is that his

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rolodex wasn't quite as deep in terms of people that
he would be able to get to work for him initially.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
Can I give you a name that I haven't heard
anybody flowed out there? Who ed Orgeron?

Speaker 1 (23:13):
Oh? Oh God, I love that and I hate it
at the same time. Ralph Like, I love it because
I think ed Oderon wants to be back in coaching.
Oh wait, never mind, I love it a little bit more. Actually,

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I love it for the same reasons because do you
know how much he would love to stick it to USC. Yeah,
and he'll come, He'll show up today. Yeah man, so
so so then you don't even have to wait till
after Thanksgiving to get your coach. You can take your

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coach now that actually let him beat it.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
Just high him and let him recruit like he doesn't
have anything to do with. He'll build his staff, he'll
evaluate the staff that's there now, decide who he wants
to keep. He'll you can get him recruiting right now,
which is his absolute strength. You get him out doing
media around stuff like people would people eat up everything

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he has to say. I'm just because I'm racking my
brain like some of these names. Because even if you
do get an innovative, offensive guy like will Stein, who
you said, you know doesn't have a lot of connections
in that area, you know they're gonna want some control
over them, calling an offense or YadA YadA YadA. That
didn't work with Chip Kelly, and so I think like

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I think, and and Deshaun Foster like to have to
have expected him to have the connections to bring in,
you know, everybody that he wanted on such short notice.
The one thing I have noticed is that all of
the people that are closest to the situation are blaming
Martin Jerman for not firing Chip Kelly as an incoming

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athletic director, for like having the intestinal fortitude and the
balls to break up the Pac twelve, but not the
balls to shape the program by bringing in a head coach.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
And that's been an interesting thing from you know, David Woods,
Bill Plashky. And then there's also this news from Tony
Siracusa that says one hundred former alumni all got on
a zoom call with with Martin Jermand I wonder what
that was like.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
You can open up your pocketbooks, is what I'd have
told him. All Right, cool, I understand what our coach, coach,
coach gone blah blah blah. All right, where where's your commitment?
I understand you want to see better. Where's your commitment?

Speaker 2 (25:47):
Well, let's move across the coast because I think somebody
we were both rooting for. It's just easy to root
for nice guys. Yeah, Brent Pry, I think college football
is more fun when when Virginia Tech is good. The
really strange thing, even from living out here, I'm only
three hours from from Blacksburg. The really strange thing out

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here is that Virginia Tech does have a level of respect, Yes,
but it's more Frank Biemer, Yes, it's more like it.
It doesn't like the respect for Virginia Tech doesn't have
a lot to do with anything outside of his era
at all. And you would think because like Nebraska, like Nebraska,

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people think even though they haven't done anything in ages,
they still think of them as like a college football
blue blood that if in the right scenario, could do
what Saban did at Alabama. People feel that way about
a lot of brands. You brought up brands for some reason,
Virginia Tech doesn't have that juice as a brand.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
It all just goes to Frank tm. I remember how
good they were with the with the Frank Frank Biemer. Oh,
I remember Beamer ball Man. They should be good again.
That's what you man, I'd be That'd be cool if
they were good and good again because them playing inter
sayd Man down a eleventy million points to old dominion

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that feels you should just vacate the song that that
that day, I'd have been like, we're not We're not
playing it today. I'm sorry, because.

Speaker 2 (27:24):
Maybe they really did want to be put to sleep
like it made the song very literal at that point.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
Who do you?

Speaker 2 (27:31):
Who do you like for this? Because I'll tell you
what I don't like. There's this the phrase higher the
Sun was trending, and I don't think the answer is nostalgia.
I don't And I don't think ruining Shane Bemers because
he played he played at Virginia Tech, he was raised
in that town.

Speaker 1 (27:48):
I don't. I don't know if if that works for
for everybody. I don't like them. No, you know, you
know who they should hire, but they won't who Ryan
Silverfield from Memphis.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
I think that that one is almost like two on
the nose. But I think Ryan Silverfield at this point
has a better track record at Memphis than Mike Norvel did,
and he's going to get to be picky, I believe.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
But but the why why don't you think that I
that they're going to hire him there? Why don't who
did they hire right before Pride?

Speaker 2 (28:31):
Justin Flante from Memphis? Yep, that's interesting. Yeah, But in
the same way that I don't think nostalgia is the answer.
I don't think getting caught up in in where somebody
came from is is necessarily an answer.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
Like the USC quarterbacks always think or this what what? Whatever?
It is being that nothing has nothing to do with nothing. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
I was watching this the other day, like people were like,
well do we draft Jordan Tyson given the Frank Darby,
Jalen Strong, and Nikhil Harry didn't have good NFL careers,
And I was like, what do they?

Speaker 1 (29:12):
Same coach, not even the same coach, same office system,
same huge.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
Body styles, talents, Yeah, transfer portal, mean like they started
at other colleges. Yeah, but I don't know. That's how
I feel about Ryan Silverfield. What do you what do
you what about the really obvious name that people are
floating around in John Gruden kind of love him for
that town.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
Oh that is a John Gruden town. I'm not buying
into the John Gruden is gonna be good for college
football thing. He's he's a celebrity, he's a he's he's
an entertainer. He's not a I don't know if he's
a football coach anymore. He wouldn't need to have a
success at the Raiders last time. Like, stop, this is

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sports washing. You get you get fam on TV, you
become a social media celebrity, and you get washed all
and cleaned all up, and then all of a sudden,
oh oh yeah, yeah, that's our guy.

Speaker 2 (30:12):
Now you're the one that sounds like you had to
root for a team coached by her Edwards, and you
sound like everybody that you were arguing with when Colorado
whired Deonce Sanders. But Deon Sanders had coached at Jackson State,
like he had the proof was in the putting, he
had the experience. But it is you sound like somebody
who had to like survive her. That's what you sound.

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I talked to these ASU fans all day every day.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
Yes exactly.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
Okay, So, so who your number one name is? Ryan Silverfield?
You just don't think it's gonna happen? Yes, correct, okay,
last one Jimbo Fisher. No, okay, we'll keep it simple.
So moving on to the next topic. AP voters are
still kind of messing up a little bit. Uh Again,

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we spent all last year naming these people, and now
it feels like that we were a year early on
the trend of actually talking about these individual ballots. You
text me this week about a couple of ballots in particular.

Speaker 1 (31:14):
Are we naming names? That's what we do. Yes, of course.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
I want you to tell everybody when you called me
this week to talk about Brenna Green who covers your
Oregon Ducks, and what your issue was with that particular
ap ballot.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
Dude, the number so and no, yes, this is a woman,
but no, this is not the same woman from last week.
So so, so don't just think that, oh my god,
see that's the same one from last week. She sucks. No,
the men suck at this too. Dude. She put South

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Carolina at number ten. This had to be an accident, right,
Like she must have misread the score because if we
talked to John Wilner and last week he admitted that
sometimes that that happened to him once and in all
these years of voting, and it was in basketball and
he and he turned in a weird ballot. I do

(32:14):
not believe that. Oh, so, so she put South Carolina
at number ten after they got beat by twenty four
points by Vanderbilt and three and oh Vanderbilt, who's beaten
two Power four teams? I believe unranked make it make sense.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
I don't think you can. But so when you say
you talked to John Wilner, it wasn't af air, it
was here. Yes, it was on this Thursday show live.
You can go to Unafraid Show on YouTube and you
can watch that interview with with John Wilner. It was fascinating.
But I think after listening to you talk to John Wilner,
some of these mistakes make a lot more sense because

(32:59):
of the deadline. Can you tell people about what he
told you about how the actual voting works.

Speaker 1 (33:04):
Yes, the deadline is eight am Pacific time, is when
their ballots have to be in, and if you're on
the West coast, you don't finish your actual job until
one two o'clock in the morning. He was like that
that's when he's starting his ballot because he didn't want
to do it in the morning and oversleep because you
don't know exactly how much time that you're going to have.

(33:25):
So if you wait to do it in the morning
and you're on the East coast, yeah, you get up
at eight, But then how about when you're like, you know,
like your dog throws up in the morning, your kids sick,
you're trying to do the ballot and you're like, oh damn,
let me hurry up, and then East Coast voters are

(33:46):
going to sleep, so they don't need you think that
they're going to see the end of that Michigan State
USC game next week.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
As someone who is nodding off during Arizona State Texas
State at one forty five in the morning this last week,
probably not exactly.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
And then you got after that, or you do a
ballot when you're that damn tired.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
It did give me some sympathy because and I know
this has happened to you a million times.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
It's happened to a million times.

Speaker 2 (34:15):
And I think either people that are watching this have
done this or had it happen to them.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
You will.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
You have a nice, peaceful evening at home. Everybody got
sit down around the dinner table. Everybody shares something they're
thankful about, crack a couple of jokes, You watch a
TV show together, everybody takes a bath, You get the
good night hugs, You tuck the little one in, and
you look you look at your spouse and you're like, man,
we might actually have like forty five minutes an hour

(34:42):
to just hang out tonight, And all of a sudden
one of your kids sits up in bed and they're like,
I have a diorama do tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
Yeah, so you have to go.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
It's ten at night on a Tuesday, and you got
to drive down to CBS get poster board, and all
of a sudden you're doing a third grader's prize at
one fifteen in the morning. It's probably not going to
turn out the best project ever. That's how the ballad
is every single week. That's how the voting process is.
Every single week. You finish up your work, it's exhausting,

(35:12):
and then you're like, oh, I got to now, I
gotta solve a puzzle. I gotta do the New York
Times crossword for the next hour before I shut my
eyes or you risk it. You go to sleep, and
you risk it. So I definitely, after listening to John Wilner,
I have a lot more sympathy for what some of
these voters are going through. You still can't mess up. Oh,
I definitely want to vote now. That made me want

(35:33):
to vote even more. Yeah, so we will be pressing
for that sort of action. Are you sure you want
to vote George? Because you could actually become instead of
an AP voter, the next footballs are of the SEC.
There's an article on football Scoop by Zach Barnett and

(35:54):
it says there's a newly created position that doesn't outrank
Greg Sanky, but it will run football for the conference.
And here's the job. The job solicitation. The Associate Commissioner
for Football will provide leadership and oversight for football operations, policy,
and stakeholder engagement within the Southeastern Conference. This role serves

(36:15):
as the conference as primary liaison to ed football coaches,
football administrators, and national organizations, ensuring alignment with the SEC's
mission and responsiveness to the evolving collegiate athletics landscape. Does
that sound like a job for you, George Reister.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
No, No, it sounds like a job that in fairytale land.
If I could do what I wanted to do, Yes,
But that's too tempting to get corrupted into SEC only
thinking and not do what's best for college football. And

(36:56):
if I try to do what's best for college football
instead of doing what's best for the SEC, I'm gonna
get fired. So I need to be over the all
of college football, so so then I can I can
thump the SEC, thump the Big Ten thump, the acc thump,
the big ten when you try to do things that
are not in the best interests of college football, the

(37:18):
student athletes, and the fans that those are three people
that matter. That's it. Everybody else comes in after that.
So it's college football as a whole, to grow the game,
to make the game more popular in the long term
and in the short term.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
The you know what, do you know what this job
sounds like to me? What Greg Sankee is sick of
answering his phone?

Speaker 1 (37:53):
Yeah, yeah, he's like, hey, yo, you you you talk
to them, bro.

Speaker 2 (37:59):
I think I think they're on his ass, and I
think he wants somebody to hold his phone. It's not
a secretary job, but it's not somebody who's going to
be making any decisions that Greg Sankie doesn't accept.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
That always like the lieutenant governor.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
Yeah, yeah, Like back when Adam Silver would his whole
job was just reading the second round pick European names
out loud, so David Stern didn't have to.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
Exactly yep, and you're kind of like missioner waiting maybe.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
Yeah, and then like punishing players for not dressing in
suits on the sideline or whatever. Yeah, I think I
think he just is. I think they've been on his ass,
and I think he wants to enjoy. So maybe maybe
that's a good thing. Maybe this means that Greg Sanka
will be less manipulative of the entire process because he
just needs some distance from these people for a minute.

Speaker 1 (38:49):
I like that. I love where your head's at right there.

Speaker 2 (38:52):
I just someone to answer the phone and be like, sorry, Brett, uh, sorry, Tony,
he's in a meeting. Yes, pretty much, but this job
is we was speaking of making college football more popular.
Apparently this was controversial. I don't fully understand it, but
in the in the ESPN broadcast of the South Carolina

(39:15):
h Vanderbilt game, Theo Vaughn, comedian and podcaster was on
the sideline and your boy cole c but like he
got a sideline interview with him, and the topic ended
up being that if Vanderbuilt beat South Carolina, that Theo
Vaughn gets a date with Diego Pobby's mom. Absolute insanity

(39:36):
could only happen in college football. One of the funniest
things of the weekend. I saw Clay Travis saying that
people were mad about it. I don't think it's football fans,
but I just was fondering.

Speaker 1 (39:46):
Like, you can't be pimping out his mom and this,
this and this. All right, so but then Diego to
make the story a little more interesting, Diego Pobby was like, Yo,
the only deal was it was like a trade. So
as long as you can get me a deal with
this country music singer, I'm in. So we don't know

(40:06):
if it's actually going to happen now because a date
barter something something about that in twenty twenty five, probably
don't don't sit right with a lot of people. But
if the women are fine with it, you shouldn't have
a problem.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
Like give giving your mom away with a dowry, Like
that's when people are looking at this.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
Get you got to give six cows and a plot
of land. Yes.

Speaker 2 (40:36):
I So here's the deal about Diego Poppy's mom. She's
a human, an autonomous human being who is able to
make decisions for herself. So I don't think anything is
happening against her will. The whole thing is weird. I
become less comfortable when it actually is a barterer and
not like a ten Things I Hate about you challenge

(40:58):
you know where it's like, all right, I'll let you
go on a date as long as your sister is
as has a boyfriend as well. I'm not letting you
date until your sister is, like promised off. Firstreating of
the trip.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
The two song two things popped into my head when
I and I don't know why, I was like, Stacy's
mom has got it going on. And then the other
thing I thought about was Stiffler's mom.

Speaker 2 (41:28):
I don't know if we should be thinking about that.

Speaker 1 (41:32):
Yeah, funny. I was ready for Stiffler's mom to be
honest with you when when I first saw the movie,
But that was.

Speaker 2 (41:37):
A whole other Can I give you a little bit
of a fun fact that'll make you feel ancient?

Speaker 1 (41:43):
Don't please don't tell me how old that movie is.

Speaker 2 (41:46):
It's not about how old the movie is.

Speaker 1 (41:49):
It's that.

Speaker 2 (41:51):
Jennifer whatever her name is, the actress that played Stiffler's
mom in that movie, was supposed to be thirty eight.
So you are, what five six years older than Stiffler's
mom was in American Pie?

Speaker 1 (42:09):
How long ago was that? How long ago did that
movie come out? Over?

Speaker 2 (42:14):
I think over twenty years? Oh god, So she's getting
probably close to twenty five.

Speaker 1 (42:19):
So she's at least in her light because she had
to be in her forties at that point point in
time or older. So oh god, so she might be
seventy something now.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
But just the idea that you are, like, you're thinking
of this movie as like, oh, she's so much older.
You're older than she was by a lot in the movie.

Speaker 1 (42:41):
Oh damn.

Speaker 2 (42:45):
Eight time keeps slipping into the future. All right, So
now I think the most obvious thing here that nobody's
talking about is one person is a comedian and one
person is hilarious. And this is probably just the thing
that is funny and not serious at all. But I
this is my last thing before we get to rights
ter wrong. Who from this current quarterback pool that is

(43:12):
draft eligible going into next year? Are you confident if
you were in NFLGM that you would use a first
round pick on.

Speaker 1 (43:22):
Today?

Speaker 2 (43:22):
Based on what we've seen this season, only early part
of the season has to be draft eligible. Who are
the first round quarterbacks in your mind as of September sixteenth.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
That I would use a first round pick on? That
I'm sure about right now? All right, Yep, let's go
Dante Moore in the twenty six draft. In the twenty

(43:55):
twenty sixth draft. Yeah, like the next NFL draft happens, Yeah,
I'll stand on business with that one. Okay, Now, this
kid is not draft eligible, but I think he's been
the best young quarterback in college football right now, and
that's Jared Kiwi, Sagapu Telly over there at Cow. He

(44:16):
is everything that people thought that Dylan Ryola, DJ Lagway
and Arch Manning were going to be. He is the
guy that's standing on business right now and is out
there absolutely balling. But I know he's not draft eligible
or draft ready yet, but but still, oh, oh, I
would probably draft uh Sawyer Robertson okay, and oh but

(44:53):
number one on the list, I probably it would probably
be h I was getting ready to say Jackson Arnold,
I meant, uh, John Matier. Now, so he's he's like
a top pick to you. Yeah, he needs to hit.
His accuracy needs to improve something because he pushes sold
the ball kind of sales every now and then. But uh,

(45:13):
but yeah, I think that he's a guy who can
develop if you put him in the right system, into
a really good NFL quarterback, and that his legs are
good enough to buy him a couple of years to
you know, while he improves the rest of this.

Speaker 2 (45:30):
So no, so after Lenoris got knocked out, because he
did get knocked out, he wasn't playing well. That that
drops Lenoris out of the first round for you, not
even like Lamar Jackson thirty two hole.

Speaker 1 (45:42):
I don't know about Leonoris yet, Like he was still
in a wait and see mode for me as potential. Yes,
he's got a shot.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
Okay, what about a guy who stepped in and is
running an offense really really well right out of the gate.
He's got the height, and he's got the arm, and
he's got the experience, and he fits all the criteria,
all the criteria that you talked about of what should
go into draft Bill Parcell's rules.

Speaker 1 (46:09):
Carson Beck. I knew you were going to say, Carson Beck,
he fits the criteria. So yes, yes, Carson backs should I.

Speaker 2 (46:20):
But Bo knicks range like twenty five to thirty.

Speaker 1 (46:27):
He just has too many bad turnovers sometimes in the
South Florida gave me through two picks that he shouldn't have,
Like those weren't good picks. Like he has too many
turnover worthy plays, but he's a good quarterback, Like like
he doesn't give me Kenny Pickett vibes like he's I
think he's better than Kenny Pickett.

Speaker 2 (46:48):
And how about the quarterback that the quarterback that seems
to only have one receiver but over the offseason magically
turned into college Kyler Murdy with his legs, Sam Webbett.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
I'm not sold on Sam yet. Now. Now granted, there's
still a lot of you know, season left, and and
the reason why is I need to see how he
finishes the season because he's dealt with a lot of
this hype and all of this stuff in the off season,

(47:25):
and once he if he transitions like to dealing with
that part, well then then.

Speaker 2 (47:30):
Yeah, if I was an NFLGM, I would risk my
whole job if I had a pick in the late
late twenties early thirties, you would watch me drop a
pick on Brandon Soresby and probably probably get a golden
parachute a year later because people would be very upset.

Speaker 1 (47:48):
But that's not horrible. I'm still a fan. I'm still
a fan out at that or yeah, yeah, I'm not
mad at that at all.

Speaker 2 (47:59):
I'm not People are going to always point to that
Nebraska game, like Nebraska hasn't given up sixty seven, sixty
seven and sixty nine yeards passing.

Speaker 1 (48:08):
In the last three weeks.

Speaker 2 (48:09):
Yeah, I think that they're they're pretty elite in coverage,
all right, so that it puts us in our reister
or wrong segment. I'm just gonna give you some things
and you tell me if the person involved was re
reister or wrong. First up, you've already mentioned him on

(48:31):
this show. Memphis head coach Ryan Silverfield, he was doing
his weekly radio show I believe, I believe maybe yesterday
earlier today, and he decided to take a little shot
at University of Georgia and he said he shows his

(48:51):
team clips of things that are not the Memphis standard
every game week.

Speaker 1 (48:55):
And the not our.

Speaker 2 (48:56):
Standard is Georgia wide receiver arrested for driving nine hundred
miles per hour over the speed limit. That's a weekly occurrence.
So that's one of the things we'll show, Right, reister
wrong for going public with that.

Speaker 1 (49:13):
He's wrong for going public with it, but he's reister
for doing it. He's reister for doing it because he's like, listen,
we gona had his problem around these parts. So make
good decisions, because I ain't gonna deal with the same
way Kirby deals with this.

Speaker 2 (49:30):
At what point is it no longer a taboo for
people to just mention the insane number of traffic based
in fractions in Athens, Georgia, especially because the cornerstone stone
of those things resulted in the death of a player
at some point. When does it? When can people talk

(49:51):
openly about it and not be like, oh, are we
going to get the wrath of Kirby Smart when his
own players don't seem to even be getting that wrath
when they when they transgress, even though some of those.

Speaker 1 (50:02):
Players, this is what winning will do for you. If
Kirby Smart were if he had the same record as like,
would be fine to coach if he had the same
record as Hell, even Jonathan Smith Jedfish of you know,

(50:27):
uh drink a witz of a lot of other most
other college football coaches, even successful ones. If this were
happening and you're not winning national championships, brother, at the
parties as so fast, they'd have been like, Nah, no,
not bro, not You're you're clearly not fit to lead
this program? All right?

Speaker 2 (50:49):
Can I go galaxy brain on you and have you respond, Okay,
what if because you said that he's wrong for going
public with it, like Steven A. Smith style, You're not wrong.
Shouldn't have said it. But do you think that was
a wink to Florida fans because there's a.

Speaker 1 (51:10):
Chance it would be an excellent hire. I'm not saying
that they should fire Billy, but that would be a hire,
right there, boy.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
And he's already taking a shot at one of your
biggest rivals.

Speaker 1 (51:30):
Yeah, I like it. I like. I'm not mad at it,
not mad at all.

Speaker 2 (51:36):
Okay, So reister or wrong And I'm talking about me,
me and what I'm about to say out loud. Ole
Miss should and I think they are, but Ole Miss
should stick with Austin Simmons at quarterback instead of maybe

(51:59):
looking at trind He had Chamblis, who would row credible?

Speaker 1 (52:02):
Wrong? Wrong, wrong. It is unfortunate that you know, this
is sports. Bad things happen to good people sometimes. And
Chamberless is what he came in in that first game
against Georgia State and you know, four for six fifty

(52:23):
nine yards a touchdown, and his last game against Arkansas
twenty one for twenty nine three point fifty three in
a tudy. He also rushed for another fifteen times for
sixty two yards and two touchdowns. Hey man, he's the
starting quarterback until he's not the starting quarterback. Really, bro,

(52:45):
it's not like Simmons had established himself as as the
guy and then this guy just comes in and plays
plays well. No, that that that hadn't happened. So it's
his job right.

Speaker 2 (52:58):
Now, So you you don't factor in that he had
locked in that backup role that everybody was excited to
move to him this season, and it wasn't like he
he hasn't done anything to say like, oh this this
guy is gonna be elite. But he also hasn't done
anything to say like, oh he's not he's not going
to be. Yeah, but Trinidad Chambliss looked like a freaking

(53:20):
superstar and a half against Arkansas's defense could have been
just Arkansas's defense.

Speaker 1 (53:25):
It could be, it could be and we may switch back,
and we might switch back, but but for right now,
this this is the direction we're going.

Speaker 2 (53:37):
Interesting. Okay, our BYU fans reister or wrong to still
believe that they'll be absolutely fine without Jake Rhet's laugh
and maybe not, maybe not absolutely fine, but better off,
equal or better off because Jake Rhet's laugh put tou
Lane on his back and laid the wood on Duke.

Speaker 1 (54:04):
That's one hundred percent, reister. There'll be Yu, They'll find
another quarterback long term, all that stuff, and they're still
winning football games. But they're wrong because Kalone Sataki in
his press conference was asked about the UCLA job, and
he didn't pull a Dan Landing and say, nah, bro,
I'm not ever leaving. He was like, man, we gotta

(54:27):
stay focused on on East Texas whoever they're playing, and
some directional school. He was like, yeah, listen, we're not
getting distracted on anything else. To these guys, they know
they can talk to me about anything, and blah blah blah.
That wasn't a no. Now, I appreciate him for not
just coming out lying about it, but that wasn't a no.

(54:53):
So they might maybe they might be looking for a
new head coach.

Speaker 2 (54:58):
Yeah, but I think b Yu so many people that
they could choose from that they'll ultimately be fine. I mean,
Jason Beck if he takes if he if that offense
takes Utah to the College Football Playoff, he's b Yu Alone.
I replaced Colone's Talckey with him, and everybody would be
super excited and they'd be fine. I just and I

(55:18):
know that they didn't have a choice on whether or
not they stuck with Jake Retslaf. That have to be
like a long suspension or something like that, and that
was never going to happen. But I just so many
BYU fans were one hundred percent sure that, if anything,
Jake Radslaf held them back last year. Ye. So to
watch what he did rushing for four touchdowns against Duke

(55:38):
this last weekend, it was like, Oh, what if Tulane
goes to college football playoff?

Speaker 1 (55:42):
Yep, exactly so fair.

Speaker 2 (55:45):
I don't know, I just thought that was interesting. Reister,
are wrong? Reister or wrong? Gary Patterson, who has served
as the head who served as the head referee for
the game between Syracuse and Yukon and has been with
the ACC since two thousand and two, since you first

(56:06):
got to the NFL, George, he was reister or wrong
for just quitting, just quitting when there was a dispute
with the ACC office and the command center over the.

Speaker 1 (56:21):
Made him a play that shouldn't have been reviewed.

Speaker 2 (56:26):
Yeah, he reacted like that one flight attendant who just
popped the slide on the plane, grabbed a beer and
slid down it like the most epic quit ever, he's
been on this job for twenty four years, and he
was like, all right, I'm over it.

Speaker 1 (56:40):
He was like, dude, I'm sick of it. Is because this
wasn't the first. You don't quit just when this happens
the first time. This is multiple times of whatever or
the boss trying to get him to do stuff that
he don't believe in and stand by and he was right.
He was like, listen, oh, I gotta do this no more.
I'm out here an R. So they reviewed.

Speaker 2 (57:04):
What ended up happening was they reviewed a first down
play to see whether Steve Angelie had fumbled. Yeah, and
but they had already like snapped the next play and apparently, all.

Speaker 1 (57:15):
Right, so we had a little technical issue, but we
back so we're gonna let Route finish his thought right now.
Whose fault was a technical issue? What do we like?

Speaker 2 (57:28):
Whose fault was it? Because that's what that's what's going on.
And the Gary Patterson thing is I think they in
explaining it to the coaches, they said, hey, he didn't
hear us. He should have stopped the game. It's not
our fault that you that you ran another play, and
that we're going back in time to adjust and Gary

(57:50):
Patterson's response. I believe his response and his resignation was essentially, well,
we didn't hear it. You don't get to interfere in
the game. We're the refs. You're not here, so you're
not gonna blame us. If there was an issue communicating it, it.

Speaker 1 (58:04):
Was, yes, it's your fault. That is, that is your fault.
If it's an issue, could and and it's just like
if a play is missed or something like that, then
you gotta do what you gotta do.

Speaker 2 (58:19):
How long do you think he felt like a hero
in his own mind before it settled in that he
just quit his job of twenty three years over a
disagreement with his boss.

Speaker 1 (58:31):
Oh this didn't just pop up, bro, this didn't just
pop up. He it was like, man, I'm sick of this. Man,
I'm gonna mess around a quit on the ass watch
And then they did something else. He was like, I'm out.
He got something else he ready to do. He ready
to go hang out with his grandkids, traveled something He's

(58:52):
ready to be done.

Speaker 2 (58:53):
Anyway, it would be so funny if they made him
like the acc person that talks about officiating on the
broadcast and you just flame every time they go to
replay you just flaming them. Yeah and this yeah, oh man,

(59:14):
I would love that. I would love a bitter ex
ref Yes, just dumping on on the whole process every
single time. Uh So the last thing for Reister or
Wrong and maybe the most important thing, something maybe we
could have led with. But for the people that hung on,
you're about to get a special treat. I'm gonna try
to phrase this in a in a less obvious way
than everybody else has been talking about it. Reister or Wrong, You,

(59:38):
George can identify with Brian Kelly's anger that they tried
to piss in the cheerios of that victory by asking
him about third down efficiency, because Brian Kelly did go
off on a reporter this week, and everybody's just been

(59:59):
making fun of Brian Kelly for being emotional. But they
just got to win in the SEC and the first
question he got was like, hey, how come you sucked?

Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
All right? So for me, I'm like, I get why
he melted down.

Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
I get it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:15):
He shouldn't have done it. Okay, it's one So as
a formerly defensive person, right person who's been in therapy,
who my.

Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
No on the football field. You played tenn and we're
talking about life.

Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
Yes, yes, the person who's been defensive at times, I
can understand being defensive. But the question wasn't wrong. They
were four for fourteen on third down and there were
four for eleven in the LSU game. They were bad
against in the game. They blew him out to like it,

(01:00:57):
just like their offense has not materialized into what you
would have expected. So like, yes, you're winning games, but
this is the same guy. Remember remember he jumped on
Dabo after Dabo was like, oh we got Ado, we
got an f they got a d Well, it turns

(01:01:18):
out LSU's played two bad offenses. They played Florida. They
only scored twenty points against Florida. They got five picks,
including a pick six, So on offense, they got four
additional picks and only scored thirteen points.

Speaker 2 (01:01:36):
And thirteen points came off those turnovers. So the offense
only manufactured that early Yeah, touchdown, that's it because the
two field goals came immediately after a dj Lagway pick
and then the other one was taken back for six.

Speaker 1 (01:01:51):
So what are we doing? Yes, your offense is busted
up right now. So yeah, and his level of arrogance
and Pete cocky after that that Clemson game was oh lord,
I wow, Yeah, we're good dude. He was peacocking maximum.

Speaker 2 (01:02:12):
So I think he's funny. I enjoy it. I just
it'd be like if you got your if you got
your daughter, George, if you got her like impossible to
get Taylor Swift tickets and you went to the concert
with her, and and right when you guys get to
your seat, she's like, these are the best seats.

Speaker 1 (01:02:29):
You could get.

Speaker 2 (01:02:30):
Yes, exactly, that's the feeling that would well up and like, man,
I just gave you. I just gave you a win
over Florida where our defense that previously gave up over
the last three years thirty five points a game to
rank opponents just held them to That's.

Speaker 1 (01:02:45):
Their job, Like, that's the media's job is to And
you can get testy with him. I'm not mad at
getting testy with him, but you can't do something because
this is the this is multiple times he's needed to
come back and apologize. Well he did. He gave him
like a what do you want from me? Right?

Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
So, but when we watched the SEC show, what was
the SEC show called any Given Saturday?

Speaker 1 (01:03:08):
Yeah, we know what we want from you. Better off
its Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
So when the most telling thing to me in that
show is Brian Kelly in his house pouring a bottle
of wine and his dad. His dad was there, and
his dad was kind of like Hotten Hill, like like
Hank Hill's dad, like a shorter, very serious man.

Speaker 1 (01:03:29):
Yeah. And you know this.

Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
Dude just goes home, talks to his dad, and his
dad's asking him the same exact questions.

Speaker 1 (01:03:35):
I feel like I feel like he was like I
want to his dad ain't got that accent. Never mind.

Speaker 2 (01:03:43):
I feel like he's gonna go home and his dad's
gonna be like, what's the deal with third downs?

Speaker 1 (01:03:47):
So he's like already waiting on getting it third down, sir,
because you ain't gonna able to keep this up and win.
I'm gonna let you know that right now.

Speaker 2 (01:03:56):
Because you know you're not gonna yell at his dad exactly.
I think that reporter got something that was meant for
maybe somebody else. That part all right, So we got
we got to our section where we talk about the
three things that we're most excited for in this upcoming week.
There's a lot I'm curious as to how you whittle
it down to three. But what are the things you

(01:04:18):
were most excited for? In Week four of the College Football.

Speaker 1 (01:04:20):
Slate, Number one is trying to figure out why game
Day went to Miami versus Florida one and two Florida
instead of going to go see Utah. Who's your Tah
playing again? Just just did a preview on it?

Speaker 2 (01:04:38):
But oh my gosh, Texas Tech Yes, possible Big twelve
Championship preview.

Speaker 1 (01:04:44):
Yes, and two teams that you haven't covered either place,
whether it were in Lubbock or whether it was in
Salt Lake City. You're gonna get an amazing Game Day turnout.
The fans are going to be electric like the game
they experienced. This felt very sec down South, good old

(01:05:06):
boy choice instead of making the right choice. Hell, they
could have went but now I understand why they didn't
go to Indiana Illinois, even though that would have been cool.
But I get it. But there were other options. Hell,
they could have went back to Norman, Oklahoma for that

(01:05:28):
game versus Auburn and still got an SEC team. This
made not a lot of sense. This felt like a
Kerb Herb Street. I don't want to travel real far
because I want to go I got something to do
this weekend kind of pick.

Speaker 2 (01:05:46):
That is true? That is true? What else are you?

Speaker 1 (01:05:49):
Well?

Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
I know you've been I do not to jump you,
but I do know you've had the Illinois Indiana game
circled for yeah six months?

Speaker 1 (01:05:59):
Now? Yeah, yeah, we go find out who about that action? Boss?
Who about that action? I'm a feeling I know who
you think is about that action? I do. I think
Illinois's is about that action. I do, I do. I'm
Ryan with Brett. He is him and the Ducks are
my last hope right now in terms of like teams

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that aren't expected to be like crazy good but all right,
and then I'm also looking forward. So that was one
of my things. But I'm also looking forward to to
sing what in the world is up with? Hold up,

(01:06:41):
let me let me pull up the game so I
don't misquote them. Oh this Nebraska Michigan game, Lord have mercy.

Speaker 2 (01:06:51):
That's all I can think about. That's all I can
think about. Is is matt Rule's biggest opportunity, maybe Nebraska's
biggest opportunity in seven years? Two show any signs of
life whatsoever?

Speaker 1 (01:07:07):
Yep it's huge. Yep. Yeah, they must win this game.
Must and then uh.

Speaker 2 (01:07:15):
You're right like you are one right, it's a week
four must win.

Speaker 1 (01:07:20):
Yep, it's crazy. And then the last thing is, I
can't wait to see this Michigan State USC gables out
of the boy. Oh lord, I can't wait to see
this game. Oh I am itching. USC fans have been crying, Oh,
show us some love, show us some love. You beat

(01:07:41):
Michigan State, We'll start to show you some love. I
righte you this week so.

Speaker 2 (01:07:46):
Well it So here's here's a thing that I find
very very interesting. Tickets to USC Michigan State are still available,
uh as low as forty nine dollars. Do you know
what the lowest ticket price for three and oh col
at San Diego State is kicking off just two and

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a half hours down the road, Yes, seventy seven bucks.
It's more expensive to get in to see col play
at San Diego State than it is to get into
the Coliseum right now, Like like the.

Speaker 1 (01:08:26):
The minimum tickets, so excited all in everything else, you
can't sell out against Michigan State.

Speaker 2 (01:08:32):
That's that's what's interesting to me, Like the the and
so just on that note, the Dion Sanders effect right
of of just being there in Boulder, even though they're
one and two. The minimum ticket price to see Wyoming
not even like a power for team, is one hundred
and twenty bucks. Right now, it's more than double to

(01:08:55):
see Michigan State come to LA for a night time kickoff.
And so we say that there's this, there's people complaining,
but like there really isn't the same national energy about
USC of not buying in is happening within the program.
So unless that part gets fixed, I don't know what

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we're I don't really know what we're doing.

Speaker 1 (01:09:18):
What are you looking forward to it?

Speaker 2 (01:09:20):
As we get Uh, there's a reverse cross country game
that's going on at the exact same time where BYU
is having to play in Greenville, North Carolina, essentially on
the beach at East Carolina, and I think they're coming
off of buy and they've been so dominant. I'm really
really interested to see if they just keep dropping fifty

(01:09:40):
sixty on people, because that's a you know, that's an
East Coast game for BYU, So that that one, to
me is fascinating. Obviously, you know, if if John Mattier
against this Auburn defense does what he's been doing the
last few weeks, even though at some point you do
have to not throw an interception every game. If he

(01:10:02):
continues to do what he has been doing, I think
he automatically becomes the Heisman front runner.

Speaker 1 (01:10:09):
And then the other week we're gonna have Brett Sion
on on Thursday to talk Heisman voting and stuff like that.
And on this Thursday, we're gonna have Chris Follick. I love, dude.

Speaker 2 (01:10:24):
I love the Thursday Guests. If people didn't have not Again,
if you haven't seen the John Wilner Show, it is
so illuminating on the top and a lot of people
are mad at John Wilner directly, so like to go
in and to hear how he goes about his process.
He lays it all out, all of it, and so
definitely make sure you're tuned into these Thursday Lives. It's

(01:10:44):
part of the Unafraid Show. Then the other ones a
toss up for me. I can't decide if it's a
Tulane Ole miss or if it's a if. I'm excited
about Utah Texas Tech, because again, one could be a
big twelve Championship preview, but it's still so early in
the season and this is kind of the first real game,
but now that we know how bad UCLA is, it's
kind of the first real game for either team, So

(01:11:07):
I'm not putting a ton of stock into it. Utah
is favored, but the styles are so different, and you
and I remember from the PAC twelve that Utah didn't
always handle air raid concepts very well, and that's essentially
what Texas Tech runs, even though they're really heavy on
the run as well. But I also don't see anybody
on this Texas Tech defense, even though that they spend
a lot of money on that defensive line. I don't

(01:11:28):
see anybody who can cover sideline to sideline if Devin
Dan Peter is running around. So that's a big one.

Speaker 1 (01:11:34):
Yes, that's a major and I can't wait to see
that one because you gonna find out what's what and
who's who. And but this Tech Tech money does look
like it's been well spent though.

Speaker 2 (01:11:44):
Absolutely absolutely. I think that's like ten TFLs and seven
sacks between just the five defensive linemen that they bought.
And I say bought, but like that, it's not an
insult to them. That's what they want to do, was
to buy a new D line Like that was that
Cody Campbell's responded to somebody asking him to buy them

(01:12:05):
a new defensive line. He was like, okay, I will,
So it's not meant to be an insult. The other
thing is, if Tulane beats Ole Miss in Oxford, they're
far and away, far, like a million miles away in
in position to be a college football playoff team, and
Notre Dame needs to start worrying. I think, yeah, oh, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

Speaker 1 (01:12:29):
They need a lot of help. They need Texaan and
them to just continue to win. And they need what
did they lose to first, Miami? They need Miami king
roll into.

Speaker 2 (01:12:44):
All right to finish up. I gotta ask you, are
we going to see any other coaches get fired after
week four now that it's a trend? Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:12:51):
Yes, Uh, well, it depends on the results of this week.
I think that.

Speaker 2 (01:12:56):
Friday night, if Tulsa beats Oklahoma State, do you think.

Speaker 1 (01:13:01):
Now they're gonna let Mike gut They'll give Mike Gundy
a couple more weeks just because there's really no point, Like,
they'll give them a couple more weeks because but at
the same time, they're gonna want to get had a
head start on who the next coach is gonna be
in case they're trying to steal ahead coach or something

(01:13:21):
like that. I'm trying to think who you could see
in a weird spot. M chiefs all the Big Tens
at like twelve of the eighteen Big Ten teams are undefeated.

Speaker 2 (01:13:38):
Still, what if Clay Hilton loses at home to University
of Maine to fall to one and three.

Speaker 1 (01:13:46):
Yeah, that would be bad. That would be bad. Damn.
It feels like a like people, Oh it's napier, dude,
it's napier. Oh man, if they get boat raced this weekend,
the this could go badly.

Speaker 2 (01:14:02):
Do you think there's an opportunity for them to not
go well?

Speaker 1 (01:14:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:14:06):
Yeah, I mean Miami's looked really really good, but I yeah,
is there an opportunity you think for Miami to run
away with it?

Speaker 1 (01:14:13):
Yes? Yes, because they are better than LSU's hm that
would be a bummer. Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:14:27):
But so was the Brent Pride thing. So is the
Deshaun Foster thing. It's just it's a business.

Speaker 1 (01:14:31):
Yeah, it's it's a business, and it's it's hard, dude,
And you know everybody doesn't get you know, fair shakes
and everything else. Uh but uh you guys. This is
the college Football Apostles for this week. I'm George Reister,
He's Ralph Amason. Make sure you like, subscribe, get notifications,

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