Week 5 Storylines: SEC 9 Games, Mike Gundy Fired, Oregon vs Penn State

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
College football apostles. Oh, this was a crazy week. Mike
Gundy has gotten fired the SEC. We know they went
to nine conference games. We're finding out who the common
opponents are gonna be. And the ACC snuck in the
back door. Hey hey, hey, we're going to nine conference
games too, pow. And we're gonna look ahead at the week.
The non conference schedules are pretty much over with, so

(00:23):
who has the best conference right now? Arch manny flexus
and everything else in between. I'm George Reister, former NFL player,
college football player, college football analysts for c W and
my main man, Ralph Amsden covers preps, covers prep sports,
college sports, and a regular encyclopedia and rolodex where everything

(00:44):
was going on. Ralph, I'm excited. We're four weeks into
the season. I haven't started my morning yet, where like,
oh my god, the seasons almost at over. But yeah,
I'm excited.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
Even have seasons. So how do you even get to
the point where you get that anxiety that we're on
the downhill park? When are you wearing? Are you wearing
sweaters just for the fashion?

Speaker 1 (01:09):
No? Man, it gets a little chili out out here sometimes, okay,
gets a little chilly out. I don't need a sweater yet.
But you know, I'm still walking around in shorts and
a T shirt.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
But it's stills up to all right. I didn't. I
don't think the leaves on the birds of Paradise are
changing orange you on the on the Queen palms.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
Exactly, dude. This college football season has been. It hasn't
even gotten as hectic as it's going to get. And
I love it, Like I can just see chaos breaking
out this this weekend. And but from last weekend I
looked at things. I was like, dude, parody is on Max.

(01:52):
You do not know who is going to win from
week to week, damn near. I thought I had Illinois
nailed and pegged and and and Indiana came and was
like you know, you know them uh them cartoons where
they're like I challenge you to a duel, and they
take the glove out and they smack the person. That's

(02:12):
what it. Took the glove off and smacked them.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
And Illinois was like the coyote getting caught hold in
the acne grenade. Yeah, that was aod field, dude.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
And just just you just see how close the margins
are like outside of a few teams that you feel
are really good that you ain't even one hundred percent
sure about. I mean because some of them teams still
have warts, like like L lsu all or they the
number one team. How can unless you be the number
one team? Look who they beat? Clemson looks atrocious right now,

(02:46):
Like they got so much, you know, praise for that win,
and you can't give them praise for that as much
as you thought. They're not good on third down, and
you cannot with any degree of certainty say who's gonna
win on a week week basis and then true And
we are learning that because our predictions are the ones

(03:08):
blowing up. Yes, fans don't want to hear the truth.
They do not want to hear the truth. They want
to live in fantasy land. They either want to be
like fire our coach, fire Damo or fire this guy,
or they want to believe. All right, listen, listen, listen.
It was just an aberration. It's not that big of
a deal. So the hope is turning into copium, and

(03:30):
then it'll turn into despair soon. And that's because I
believe that things are going to get crazy soon. I
believe that we may have a shocking upset this weekend,
A shocking upset which you got to watch the previews
to fully know which one it is. But a team
that I had my preseason top twenty five I believe

(03:51):
is going to be defeating one of the top teams
in the country right now this weekend.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
I am I'm curious because we did not talk about
that beforehand. Uh, I'm hearing my takeaways from this weekend.
Number one, I was not scared as an Arizona State fan.
I'm repping Arizona State today as an Arizona State fan.
I was not scared of Texas Tech. I was curious
about them, curious about how the defensive line would come together,

(04:22):
curious about if Baron Morton was ready to push the
ball down the field. And then I watched that game
against Utah, and man, it was physical. It was fun.
Salt Lakes, such a cool environment, everything about it was great.
And yeah, I mean the offenses were stalling out. You
had to work for every yard. It did not look
like big twelve football. And then all of a sudden,

(04:44):
Baron Morton takes a shot to the ribs and I
text you, I was like, no, like, this is terrible, right,
and I mean I could show the text like it
was you took it here, no, yeah, yeah, And then
all of a sudden, this kid from Austin, Texas comes
in and oh my gosh, what a gunslinger. Will Hammond

(05:11):
physically ready, confident, puts a lot on every throw, but
not intimidated by the moment at all. On the road
in Salt Lake City, overthrew a ball, went right back
to it the next play and nailed it. Had a
couple of great first down runs. I'm scared now. I'm

(05:31):
officially scared because it was one of those things where
it's like, okay, yeah, Texas Tech could with the resources
they have, they could take the Big twelve over sure.
But at the end of the day, a lot of
it comes down to do we have the right quarterback
in place? And not even the Juggernaut knots always have
the right quarterback in place. Not the Georgia's not, the
Alabama's not, the LSU's not always right like they've had

(05:54):
a great recent history, they're the ones that are getting
these guys. But like even the teams, like even even
Lincoln Riley went through the Miller Moss here of not
really necessarily meshing with who he had at at quarterback
and Lincoln Riley seems to always have the quarterback. When
I saw this kid, what's the When I seen him

(06:14):
throw that ball? When I see him throw that ball, yeah,
I went full Adrian Peterson. And now now I'm I'm
like a full on tech believer. But does he start?
You would? I know what you would do? What will
they do?

Speaker 1 (06:33):
They gonna start? Will what will they do that they
go start? I would?

Speaker 2 (06:39):
It was interesting?

Speaker 1 (06:40):
I know you would because I know Baron Morton was
good before they threw two picks. They they might that
gart another you know, another ceremonious start. But let let
him start slow. Oh oh, he will have me come
in and play well again, job job over?

Speaker 2 (07:00):
This was yeah?

Speaker 1 (07:01):
This this uh, this is a this would be a
masturbatory process.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
Well, and you and I, you and I know how
Baron Morton got this job. It was because of some
bad luck for Tyler Shuck. So I don't know, though,
I don't think Baron Morton's done anything wrong. I just
watched that kid on the road and I was.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
Like, yes, exactly have to do anything wrong. Sometimes other
people do something right.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
Yeah. The other thing is I think it happened. I
think I'm a USC buyer. I don't know what I
think I am.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
You're buying USC right now.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
I think I am. Yeah. Yeah. I won't get too
into it because.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
I know that you that is a Wooden Nickel buddy.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
Is this would be like if I'm your son and
I came out wearing a University of Washington T shirt.
I feel the disappointment coming through the screen right now,
but I I am. I think after what I've seen,
I think, after seeing the sides of this defensive line,
the way that that he's at, that Lincoln Riley's adjusted
to not having a mobile quarterback Mikayle Lemon and Jacoby

(08:12):
Lane through four straight games over thirty carries. They only
had four games with thirty k plus carries last year.
I think they're adapting. And I know you love that
Dante on Lynn higher and I think that's paying dividends
for him. So yeah, I'm coming around. And my other
takeaway is, you win a college player that you like
gets to the NFL, you have to let them go.

(08:33):
You have to fully let them go. So this week,
Cam Skataboo scored his second touchdown for the New York giants,
and I have no interest in this process other than
he played at Arizona State. And I would have interest
in any process of any college player that I thought
was good and exciting, of which, having done this with

(08:54):
you for years and years and years, most of these
dudes in the NFL I see and I think of
where they went to school, and I think of the
memories they made, and I get nostalgic and excited, and
if I have something positive to say about them as
a player, I'm realizing they no longer belong to me. Yeah,
they belonged to the NFL streets. And I realized that

(09:15):
this week because I said one good thing about Cam Scataboo,
and I found myself in the middle of a race war,
which at getting comments from people like, you only like
him because he's white, and you're gonna overhype this white
running back and you know it's gonna be Jason Seahorn
all over again. And I mean it got to the

(09:37):
point where, yeah, he was good enough to get Angie
Harmon shout out to Law and.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
Order, Yeah, Blue Eye Princess.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
Yeah. But I so, you know, obviously, my allegiance to
Cam Scataboo has nothing to do with race and or
the New York Giants. It has to do with what
he did as a college football player. And all I
said was it sure didn't take cam Skataboo that long
to look like Camp Scatboo. That was it. And I

(10:09):
had a dude in my mentions that was like, you
are fat, slow, dumb, Your wife's ugly, your kids are ugly,
you're poor, you're broke, your house is ugly, all because
I said something nice about Camp Kataboo. And then ended
up finding out this dude who was just repeatedly saying
that he had D one football experience, so he's allowed

(10:30):
to talk, and I'm not never played a down of
D one football. He went to Indiana State, didn't make
the roster. He told me he was the number he
was a top one hundred player in his graduating class.
I ended up finding out he's the number thirty four
ranked linebacker, not even the top one hundred at his position,
and so like it, and that his entire online presence

(10:52):
is him following OnlyFans accounts, and that he has twenty
one dollars in a savings account because he did tweet
me his bank account to prove that he was rich
and that I poor, and it showed that he had
twenty one dollars in his savings accomp so all because
I said one good thing about Cam Scatbow and the
lesson I'm taking away from this is, once these college
football players leave us, George, They're gone. I don't have
anything to say that anyone.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
That's the lesson that you took. Not not ignore the trolls.
That's not the lesson you took.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
You think I'm gonna ignore a troll?

Speaker 1 (11:23):
No, I actually, I actually I don't. I don't.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
So so if I ever let so, that's funny because
I'm talking about man, I gotta let these players go.
But I've never let go of anything in my entire life.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
Hey, y'all, if y'all want to get in an argument
on on Twitter for like hours, hit up, hit up,
Ralph Amstein.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
Please do, please do not.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
All right, what else we got today?

Speaker 2 (11:48):
You're gonna cost yourself work like the work that I
do with you for Unafraid Show is not gonna get done.
All right, Let's get to this week's storylines, because I
think you've just encouraged something that we can't come back from.
So appalation State longtime head coach Appalation State graduate Sean Clark,

(12:11):
who was I believe offensive line coach at UCF, had
a medical emergency last week. He ended up passing away Georgia.
I took my son to his football camp, yeah, and
and met him, been out on his field several times
for you know, app State, and everybody knows the success
that they had over time him be you know, him
getting let go at app State is kind of a

(12:33):
lot like the next subject that we're going to talk about.
You're a program legend, and then ultimately at the end
of the day, you you know, you you've kind of
gone past what you're able to accomplish there they have
to move on from you. He's at UCF, they got
an undefeated start and then all of a sudden, you know,
he has this medical emergency. He passes away at just
fifty years old. You and I have had a lot

(12:55):
of conversations about just like you know, somebody you played
in the NFL with recently passed away, you know, or
somebody who played in the in the NFL with passed
away recently in Rudy Johnson, like it's tough kind of
getting to that agent seeing this. This affect people who
are so young and just wanted to take a moment
to you know, say prayers to his family and and

(13:15):
the devastating loss for the for the whole app State community,
and for that U see his coaching staff for sure.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
Yeah, it's it's hard anytime you have a coach passed
during the season, like Mike Leech passed a couple of
years ago during the middle of the football season over
at Mississippi State. And this is why coaches a lot
of times that the head coaches forced their assistance to
get physicals and all of this stuff because football coaches

(13:42):
notoriously don't take care of themselves, don't sleep much, work
long hours, high stress, all this, and then their warriors,
so they pushed through everything. Becau they're using football guys.
They're asking everybody else to be tough, so they're trying
to be tough, and then something's going on and they're
ignoring it, and then something bad happens. So this is
a note, take care of yourself, man, take care of yourself.

(14:02):
Go to your doctor. Don't be scared. Don't think it'll
be okay. You ignore it is not going to go away.
It is like ignoring your wife. No, she ain't gonna
go away. It isn't like the problem ain't gonna go away.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
Yeah, man, it is just one of the worst lifestyles.
And you think it's like it's active, right and you're outdoors,
But it's just constant pressure, a lot of emoting, a
lot of sedentary long nights, a lot of travel, way
more than anybody should ever do. But that's the exchange

(14:39):
for the money that you bring in and the prestige
and the opportunity to change people's lives. So moving on
to somebody who was a program legend. Is a program legend,
sixteen straight winning seasons, unceremoniously fired after a loss to Tulsa,
to which I believe Tulsa's coach said, we're not a

(14:59):
paid age three program anymore, which is one of the
hardest lines. And I don't know, people don't read the
newspaper anymore, but if they did, that would have hit
super hard. And now Mike Nundy loses his John. I
did not think they'd do it mid season. I thought
that they did, they would let this whole thing unfold. Well,
it's because of the rules. It's because of the rules.

(15:22):
It's because you could lose players mid season and really
create sort of a strange situation.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
And so if you if you were gonna do that, honestly,
you should have did what Florida is doing right now.
They're holding on to Billy Napier until after the next
game because they don't want DJ Lagway to red shirt.
They don't want other players to call on the Red
Shirts who have them available. That's what Florida's doing that

(15:50):
they are going to, mark my words, they are. If
Billy Napier does not pull a miracle out of the
hat in two weeks, he's got He's gone. He's gone.
And they would have done this specifically to keep players
from Red Charney, namely DJ Lagway.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
And how many coaches do you think right now are
really tempting the flame, getting a little too close to
that fire of knowing that that portal window is not
open for g Lagway because Billy Napier hasn't been fired.
But they want to reach out to his people, They
want to reach out to his region.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
Oh yeah, they are.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
How many do you think are really dancing really close
to the flame right now?

Speaker 1 (16:31):
A lot? Well, I shouldn't, I shouldn't say a lot
a couple a couple, you know, yeah, but at that
but at the same time, like DJ Lagway hasn't put
enough on. I mean like we're to the point now
was talking to my boy, yes yesterday DJ Lagway has
got to be in a quarterback competition next year. He
can't be your you're guaranteed starter coming in How what

(16:57):
what has been on film that that you can say
that's for sure our starting quarterback, even in the last
two years, because last year was okay, but you but
but you were like, oh, there's promise like that was
it was just hope that the next year is going
to be better and this year's been awful. So you
can't like he's got to be put in a quarterback

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competition next year.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
But I've learned this from you, George. You always say
that a man's strengths flow from the same place as
his weakness. Is like, think about when you were young
and single and you met a girl who was a
little bit crazy. There's a part of you that's like,
I can think you can fix it.

Speaker 1 (17:34):
Yes, And that's what I'm saying that there are coach
There are a couple of coaches out in the country
who don't have nearly as much talent at their quarterback
position or uncertainty, and they're going to be like, I'll
chance it. I'll chance it because I can, because I'm
the one who can fix it. But going back to
Mike Gundy, though this is tough. I I just posed

(17:59):
this question. Do you think that would you let him
finish these the season? Now? I would have let him.
I don't think that manipulation is right. But as a program,
you gotta keep your roster together. But I guess Oklahoma
State is like our roster ain't no good anyway. If

(18:21):
they leave, they leave, so what let them, let them
red shirt, let them leave. It don't matter because the
new coach is coming in cleaning this joint out anyway,
so it don't even matter. So maybe that's where Oklahoma
State was at. And I just they need to get
a head start on the head coaching search. And that's

(18:42):
the reason why coaches get fired earlier now is because
schools are like the early signing period is in December.
We need to have our head coach in place right
after the last game of the season, So Thanksgiving weekend
they need to be an announcing their coach that next Monday,

(19:03):
that's what their intention is. That's what you say LA's
intention is. That's what Oklahoma States, Virginia Tech is in
this same situation. They want to make sure and then
because some coaches are like, I won't even talk if
this guy is still in place. So so if if
Billy Napier don't win in two weeks, then Florida's gonna

(19:24):
open up because Florida doesn't want to mess around and
lose their candidate to Virginia Tech or to UCLA or
to UH or to Oklahoma State. So now it's going
to be an arms race on who on coaches getting
fired after after the fourth well sorry, after the fifth
game of the season, particularly at teams that do have
a decent amount of talent on their on their roster.

(19:46):
But Mike Gundy ordinarily a program legend like that, you
let him go out the Bobby Bowden way. Just finish
the season and then let's move on.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
But I didn't like his ca comments though. What did
you think of when he because him and Dabbo kind
of had the same take of like, well, you want
to get rid of me, I'll just go coach where
I'm wanted now. When Dabo says it. I'm like, would
that be a lot of places? But also they're not
going to get rid of him. You and I know that,
not after like one mediocre season. It's not it's not
going to happen like that. But when Gundhy says it,

(20:20):
I'm like, who, yeah, who wants you right now? You
have not shown you have not shown that you could
adapt to what is happening right now? Who's gonna want
to bring that in?

Speaker 1 (20:35):
Exactly? He needs to go get ball washed it And
I pause, but he needs to go get like you
know how they put you through the rehabilitation when you
go on TV for a year or you're on your
you know, hitting shows up, and then all of a
sudden you become a genius coach again.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
He gets to spend a year getting yelled at by
Nick Saban on the sideline.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
Yes, yes, he met damn. Nick Saban is gone because
he would be the perfect candidate for the Nick Sabans
coaches rehabilitation program that he was running. He was running
the soup kitchen for coaches, just rehabbing them all.

Speaker 2 (21:14):
Dabo's trying to do that. Damo's trying to do that,
but it's not the same situation, it's really not because
he's got Tom Allen as his defensive coordinator. You look
and see him on the sideline. You'll always see Matt
Luke in the background. But I'm not sure those dudes
are trying to get back into being head coaches.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
Yeah, he wants to revenge to overestimates his desirability right
now now if he sits out for a couple of years.
And like Dan Mullen did, except he's not as gregarious
as you know and you know, friendly on TV as
we've seen so far, but maybe he might be as

(21:53):
like Dan Mullen. Dan Mullen said that he went out
and he was like, Oh, I got a chance to
see it from the outside, figure out nil transfer portal
and all of that stuff. And then and he's for it?
What for? And o unlv even though he's been flying
flying close to the sun, he's still for and oh
so it's gonna be interesting because he needs to show

(22:18):
and demonstrate an ability to that he understands what the
future is like and not what college football used to be.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
I agree with you. Look, if we're being honest, this
has probably been arbuckle right, or maybe like a set Daggy.
It's like it's gonna be like a young innovative offensive.

Speaker 1 (22:34):
Or Will Stein because he's got Texas ties.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
Yeah. Yeah, it's gonna be one of those dudes. I think,
I think, and you you put yourself in a position,
but you put those other teams in a weird position
right now where they're agents may be negotiating, and I'm man,
I'm hearing backdoor stuff right now that offers are already
being made. Yes, like there are there are boosters at
a certain SEC team that may or may not have

(23:00):
blown a game to a team that was excluded from
the Big twelve, that are already in conversation with agents
of very unavailable coaches trying to see if they can't
get a replacement lined up and bring just a package
to the administration saying we have the money available for
these specific coaches, and their agents says they are or

(23:23):
not interested. I'm learning how much of this happens without
any knowledge of the of the school itself, because the
more involved you let these boosters get, the more ownership
of the situation they'll take.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
Well, shout out to Mike Gundy. It was a good run, sir.
It did not end well, but I don't think it's
going to be forgotten what you did in still Water.
Let's move on to probably the dumbest thing that everyone
has been talking about all week long. I don't want
to talk about it, and you do. Arch Manning emoted

(23:58):
a little bit on Sam Houston State defender after a
rushing touchdown, and the world has opinions on it, and
they've already sort of forced arch Manning to admit that
the people in his life didn't like it. His mom
was mad, YadA, YadA, YadA. I hate everything about this.
I hate it all. George. What are your feelings on
arch Manning flexing on a Sam Houston State player and

(24:21):
the ripple effect that has created in the media.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
Mama, if you don't like it, of Virtua eyes, of
Virtua eyes, Mama. That's all I can tell you. Because
so arch Manning, he's in a desperate situation right now, desperate.
So I'm not getting ready to fault the kid because
he is desperate right now, like he is searching for

(24:47):
personal answers because he is not playing to the level
that he has expected. And then he finally got a
few things to go right. They said he had his
best week of practice, starting to feel back like his hisself.
You know, he's trying to get his swag back. He's mad.
I love the passion, I love the emotion. But flexing

(25:07):
on a Sam Houston State dude like that, it would
be different if he had ran him over. He didn't
even run him over, like like, had he just ran
him over and then was like, ah, then I'd have
been like, I see you, arch. I ain't mad at that,
because whoever gets on the train tracks gets run the
hell over. That's different. But what he did was not that.

(25:28):
The dude barely even touched him, if he touched him
at all, and he just like, come on, man, you
didn't even do nothing to be flexing on nobody like that.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
You're a man. I'm a man, despite what I've been
told online this week for liking Camp's kataboo. But we're
both men. Sometimes the next person in your vicinity gets
is the recipient of the stress that has been going
on in your life. Sometimes it's the next person you
talk to. Sometimes it's the next person you cut off

(25:58):
in traffic. Sometimes it's an next person that cuts you
in line at the grocery store. Sometimes it's just who
is there and you got vent a little bit, and
for the most part people understand, you know, this is
also what creates opportunities for violence and conflict and things
like that. But sometimes you just got a vent and

(26:19):
the guy's been under a lot of pressure and you're
a hooper. This this is what I don't understand. You're
a hooper. Right. Yes, If Shaq dunks on hakim O
Lajah One, he's gonna flex. If Shaq dunks on Chris Dudley,
he's gonna flex. He's just gonna flex. Right. So, I

(26:41):
think maybe the issue that people are taking with it
is it seemed uncharacteristic to this golden boy arch Manning.
But I'm like, my whole thing is like, if that's
in there, then just keep doing it, because if you
do it every time, what are they gonna say? Yeah,
but it felt very much like he's been shit out
and you guys talking about it's going to help.

Speaker 1 (27:01):
Yeah, yeah, because it was one of those it was
like like when when you're normally going about your business
as somebody comes at you, they're like, I'm sick it
is and then they just go off. That was that's
what happened to her.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
Yeah, Like, what's one person at Burger King gets your
order wrong and you're like, why can't one thing in
this life go right? And you're taking it out on
a minimum wage worker that accidentally handed you a whopper
instead of an original chicken sandwich. But I I don't know, man.
I don't blame arch I don't. It's so bad that
we're talking about it because it's just going to compound

(27:38):
the situation. I just don't like the worby Parker ads
can I just not like the commercial that he's in
and not contribute to the Arch Manning discourse? This sucks?
Hate it? Hate it here all right? Moving on, gladly,
Moving on, George, do you have an apology to offer
to the Indiana football team.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
I'm sorry I was wrong. I was unfamiliar with your game.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
Who are you sorry too? Specifically, who runs that program?

Speaker 1 (28:18):
I would like to apologize to absolutely nobody. The double
champ says what he wants.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
No man, Okay, Okay, they.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
Came out, they made a statement. But Indiana, if you
do it once to an accident, you do it again
in two weeks when you played well. In three weeks
when you play against the Ducks. Our respect. I will
give you all the credit. Then that was a huge win.
I'm not finna like downplay it. But at the same time,
maybe Illinois is not as good as we think they are.

(28:51):
But I do love Kurt sing sngatty because he talks
all that shit and he will back it up. He
will run the score up on you. He we are
cut from the same cloth in that if you can
beat him by a hundred, beat him by a hundred.
I'm not calling the dogs off. And when and when
the young pupps get there, I'm letting him rock.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
Too, all right. I set you up a little bit here.
So let's say you get a bad NFL draft grade, okay,
and you go in and and the person who gave
you that grade, you score three touchdowns in a game,
and that person comes on TV and they say, I

(29:32):
would like to apologize to Gerald Reister forgetting forgetting it wrong.
I was wrong about him. I'm sorry, Gerald. How would
you receive that apology?

Speaker 1 (29:46):
I'd be like he was being an assohle, Okay, all.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
Right, I say that to say this, you have never
once said Kurt Signetti's name correctly. And I watched your
Sunday Live. I watch your Sunday Live and you did
issue this apology, but you keep calling him Kurt Singetti.

(30:12):
It's Siglake cigarette, yes, like.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
Cigarettes, Lord have mercy Signetti. What what am I saying?

Speaker 2 (30:19):
Singetti like sing like?

Speaker 1 (30:21):
Oh, Singetti Signetti. Okay, okay, okay, that's it. That's fair.
I listen. I have a last name that people butcher
I'm not cool with. That is not in person, is
not personal. Signetti Signetti, Signetti, Schuck Signetti.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
So yeah, So that's what I want to get to
because I know you have zero ill intent whatsoever. But
if they're gonna be on our radar and we have
to talk about them every week, and they might go
to the college football playoffs a second year in a row,
and all of our videos are gonna be about Indiana
football and the fact that they've given up less than
two yards per carry in the last three games combined,
we probably have to say the guy's last name. All right,

(31:05):
I'll apology accepted on behalf of the Hoosiers. I'm just kidding.
I also was a huge doubtor uh acc going to
nine games. They snuck this one in the back door,
didn't uh second pause of the of the podcast, by
the way, but there's no that Like, there was no fanfare,
no big news. It was just like, uh, Jim Phillips

(31:29):
was like, hey us two guys, Hey guys have to
play nine. Everybody, Yeah, like okay, yeah, I hate this though.
I do hate this because I know what it means,
and I think you know what it means for this conference.
We're gonna lose games. We're gonna lose a lot of

(31:49):
historical games.

Speaker 1 (31:51):
I don't I don't. I don't think so. I think
we're gonna get the like you're gonna have Clemson still
schedule South Carolina. I doubt that there will be another
you know, non conversation. So so I do think we're
gonna lose like Clemson playing l s U. But we're

(32:13):
not gonna lose Clemson South Carolina though, because that because
that's still gonna put them at ten Power five games.
And okay, yeah, So I don't think we're gonna lose
Florida State Florida or Miami Florida. I think they may.
I think they may rotate those games every other year,

(32:33):
but or put them all the same year. Like, so,
so I don't think that we're gonna get into that situation.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
I'm worried about the backyard brawl. I'm worried about.

Speaker 1 (32:44):
Their hit pit of West Virginia.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
Yeah, because we just we had lost it for a while,
right I am.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
It's gonna make the world sad.

Speaker 2 (32:55):
Yeah. I mean you see what they chant when those
games are in org in town. It's very funny. No,
I don't want to lose that. Oh they do, sweet Caroline,
but instead of it's each ship pitt oh okay with
with like seventy thousand people saying it at the exact
same time.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
Yeah, and so oh that's like, uh, hey, what's that? Uh?
What's that? LS not doing? That's that ls L S
you no, no, no, how does it start?

Speaker 2 (33:30):
Nope?

Speaker 1 (33:32):
Oh oh yeah yeah, oh oh suck that tiger.

Speaker 2 (33:39):
No parental advisory. Yeah, our album sales are about to
go through the roof.

Speaker 1 (33:47):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
So yeah, but I'll miss that and then sm using
kind of a weird situation where they want to play
a lot of games against Texas teams, but they're in
the A C C. So I don't know. I hope
they find some fixed for it. I think the team
that's really gonna pinch is Notre Dame.

Speaker 1 (34:05):
Why oh, because they're gonna get squeezed out of some
of these games.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
Yeah, which nobody's said about except for fans of college football, Like.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
That forces Notre Dame into a conference because it's gonna
get tougher for them to get games.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
If you're Notre Dame, who would you go with? Obviously
there's more money with the Big Ten, but you've got
more of an affiliation with the ACC.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
I would go with the a CC because it's easier
to win, but but money wise, uh, you gotta go
with the Big Ten.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
Or what if it has the opposite effect? What if
everybody's fighting all over themselves to get a shot at
Notre Dame with that one?

Speaker 1 (34:55):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (34:55):
Would it count? Would it count as a tenth power
for game?

Speaker 1 (34:58):
Okay? So let's they have one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven.
They only have eleven game schedule for next year, by
the way, Wisconsin, Rice, Michigan State, Purdue, North Carolina, Navy,
USC very Big ten heavy, and then SEC Miami, SMU,

(35:23):
Florida State, and Syracuse. Then the year after that they
don't have a full schedule either. So and that was
mainly ACC super super heavy. Yeah. So Texas twenty twenty eight.
They could end up with some games canceled on them soon, buddy, Yeah,
so yeah, this could be the thing that puts Notre

(35:46):
Dame in a in a position. But they'll just end
up doing like a scheduling agreement with somebody because it's
Notre Dame, it's money, it's ratings.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
Very true. I think maybe we're about to have another
disc agreement on the show. I do want to point
out that because I never let anything go. Someone said,
we agree too much. So I've been trying to get
topics out that I know we don't. We don't always
see eye to eye on. But the next thing up
is the officiating in Auburn, Oklahoma. The SEC has already

(36:19):
come out and admitted that they that they messed up.
They gave guidance all offseason about not doing disguise plays
and was Isaac side an anger or whatever went over
the sideline like he was checking out of the play,
and then he ran a nine route they hit him
for a touchdown, and then they did they did in
what was a bigger issue for me, they did have

(36:41):
a situation in which an Oklahoma player I think, caught
the ball and fumbled into the arms of an Auburn player.

Speaker 1 (36:49):
Oh yeah, that would Okay. So I felt two separate
things about the touchdown. I understand that it's against the rules,
so the official should not have allowed it, But I
don't care. You should be this is the team's job
to keep track of the offensive players, Like, I don't
feel any pity for you. Look and see if somebody
is standing on the on the field to play, that's

(37:10):
not my problem. But it is against the rules, so
it should have been called. And then the fumble.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
What's the disincentive? What's the disincentive? What do you mean
why not try to get away with that every game?
I would the can the reps go back and disallow
something if they didn't know? You figure there's gonna be

(37:40):
more awareness for it now. But yeah, if there's no
penalty to your team for because you're the one that
is intentionally trying to go around the rules, yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
Then then it's a loss of down, fifteen yard penalty,
personal foul, unsportsmanlike conduct. Yeah, fifteen yard penalty. That that's
a big penalty that essentially destroys your drive.

Speaker 2 (38:06):
Okay, So I think this is this is where if
I was in charge. You would think maybe I was
soft that letter that the SEC published about the error
that was made and that it'll be internal accountability for
what happened. Admitted admitting the error. That letter I think
should have been addressed to AP voters as well.

Speaker 1 (38:29):
What are they supposed to vote? That the game was
the game? The god was the game they lost? They lost, and.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
The seven a seven point game in which two calls
potentially provided a fourteen.

Speaker 1 (38:46):
Yeah, but the one call was not. Uh. They didn't
say that that one was wrong.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
So they hardly ever say anything is wrong. This one
is just egregious.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
Yeah, so listen, it is a it is a foot
ball game. It is a basketball game. It is a
baseball game. Sometimes umps make bad calls, refs call bad fouls.
The official miss is a holding penalty. There's no difference
in like the so so should the uh the Notre
Dame Texas A and M game get called back or

(39:18):
something or AP voters get guidance because on that fourth down,
two Texas A and M offensive linemen literally tackled Notre
Dame defenders. No, it happens all.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
You don't have to game, don't You don't have to
give guidance on overrating Notre Dame. People are just gonna
do that anyway. I'm talking about the fact that Auburn
is not on half of the voter's ballots and fell
off all the way based on you know, a team
that most people have inside their top ten, and one

(39:54):
person even has at number one, one person even has
them at number umber one, and the person that has
them at number one, David Jablonski the Day and Daily News,
doesn't have Auburn in his top twenty five, so he's
not even justifying his outlier vote for Oklahoma with Auburn

(40:16):
being ranked. People just look at it and they see
a loss. But this outcome was affected by the official
I sound like all.

Speaker 1 (40:25):
The time the Texas A and M Notre Dame was
impacted by the reps on that last play, there's always.

Speaker 2 (40:31):
Hold of But did reps come out in admitt it.
Did reps come out and admit it was there a
letter that was issued, So I'm saying when that letter
is issued, AP voters should either be alerted or taken
into account somehow that Hey, it's possible that the actual
outcome of this game was affected by the mistake that
they're admitting happened, So maybe take that into account when

(40:53):
you're raiding Oklahoma number one in the country. David Jablonsky anyway,
all right on yet yet it didn't have any yet
because you know for a fact Penn State does trick
plays and stuff, especially when.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
They play it. But all right, so that if Oregon
doesn't win and it's something like that, I'll be like, well,
there were plenty of other plays you should have stopped.

Speaker 2 (41:24):
I'm just gonna skip this next topic and go right
into these AP voters since I'm fired up right now.
Is it getting better? Do you think? Do you think
the fact that more people have, uh have discovered what
we've known about for years, the college pull tracker dot
com website where you can actually see everybody's ballot and
the reddit CFB has been tweeting it out every single week.

(41:46):
Do you think that the pressure is affecting these voters
in a positive way. I know it's affecting these voters.

Speaker 1 (41:54):
I know it's because, yes, it is impacting them because
we have one, two, three, four, five teams with first
place votes. This rarely happens where we have this many
teams with with with first place votes, and there is
a concerted effort to not be so sec heavy.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
Like it is obvious, there's a concerted effort to not
be so sec heavy unless you're LSU.

Speaker 1 (42:22):
Yes correct, and then they are. Yeah. It is a
very concerted effort, and I like it. I like it.
The only thing that I don't think that they have
rights so well. Actually, nah, it's hard to argue, even
though I think that my poll's better. I got LSU
a little bit lower. I got you know, Texas a

(42:44):
little bit lower. And yeah, aside from aside from that,
we are they they they ain't far off. They ain't
far off from where they need to be, which is
much more encouraging because they would do things like like
No Dame would get beat by Texas A and M,
and then Notre Dame still be higher than Texas A
and M and they're one and oh and oh and one.

Speaker 2 (43:06):
Like what what we still have some we still have
some of those things going on. I think Henry Greenstein
of the Lawrence Journal world, Uh, let's see here, Arizona
State at seventeen, Mississippi State unranked. That's the type of

(43:29):
issue you're talking abou Yeah, exactly, we have a direct
head to head and it's.

Speaker 1 (43:33):
Not because the problem is is they get these preconceived
notions about teams and they and they don't want to
change them. They don't want to change them. They're like, well, like,
it's like the people who have Penn State, the person
who has Penn State, the people excuse me, who have
Penn State number one in the country. There's five voters

(43:57):
who have voted them number one in the country. Five
they have beat Nevada, FIU and Villanova, and they have
looked pedestrian passing the football.

Speaker 2 (44:13):
Yeah, seven point one yards per attempt in three games
that include Villanova and Nevada. Yeah. So the interesting thing
about Penn State, you have five voters who have voted
them number one, as you pointed out, we also have
a couple that have them at number twelve. And I've
never seen such a big disparity in some of these polls.
But I look at the guys who voted them number twelve,

(44:34):
and I look at the rest of their poll, and
I'm like, oh, these are ballners. Yeah. Like Sean Reader
of the Albuquerque Journal, he has Texas Tech fifth, Penn
State twelfth, Indiana eighth, Oregon second, Miami third. You can
justify a lot of this, and he has LSU ninth.
LSU is also a team that not only hasn't really

(44:56):
looked impressive on offense and like they haven't put together
a full game yet. The games that they have won
looked good going into the season, But that's Clemson in
Florida now, and neither one of them is on anybody's
top twenty five ballot. So if neither one of them
is on anybody's top twenty five ballot, why do we
have LSU at number two on five ballots and at

(45:20):
number three on pretty much the rest. So you can
always tell people the people who are reacting to what
they've actually seen on the field versus the people who
are trying to justify what they've been doing all along.
And then you obviously have the people who didn't didn't
even take head to head into account. Yes, but I
think it is improving because even my guy Chad Bishop,

(45:43):
who had BYU ranked eighth going into the season BYU
still undefeated, won a bi cooastal game this last weekend.
They're not even in his top twenty five anymore. And
so I think bullying might actually work in this case.

Speaker 1 (45:55):
Oh, I definitely think it does. Definitely think it does.
But like even like having Georgia at one feels excessive.
But at the same time, I can make a case
for having a bunch of teams that number one that
feels excessive.

Speaker 2 (46:11):
So I want to get to Richstar wrong. There's some
fun ones this week, and it seems like we're always
talking about Lane Kiffin because he always gives us something
to talk about. Yeah, Lane kit and I don't like
doing this. I don't like doing this, but he's involved himself.
I don't like talking about people's family members. Not a

(46:33):
big fan. But Lane Kiffen's daughter hard launched her new boyfriend,
and for the older people that listen to our show,
Hard Launch is making it official, posting it online for
everybody to see. Her name is Landry Kiffen, and she
has posted on social media that she is dating a

(46:53):
member of les US football team, a linebacker, a really
well known linebacker on on LSU's football team.

Speaker 1 (47:03):
Uh, we got to be West Weeks or Week wit Weeks.

Speaker 2 (47:07):
Yep, West, It's it's Wit this time. And we've talked
about the Week's brothers on this If you if you
take anything away from any given Saturday it's that the
week brothers. You put them in anything we're gonna watch.
They're absolute stars. They got a bunch of personality. Uh,
they seem like a lot of fun and they're they're
dogs on the football field. So Landry Kiffin is dating
wit Weeks, LSU star linebacker, And normally this is not

(47:32):
a thing that I would bring up on the college
football apostles, but Lane Kiffin has injected himself into the
situation by letting everyone know that this weekend when LSU
visits Old Miss, they should definitely take the over.

Speaker 1 (47:46):
Wait did did he actually say the words take the over?

Speaker 2 (47:49):
Oh? He did.

Speaker 1 (47:51):
I don't think that that's I think that that should
be frowned upon. Like you you can't acknowledge betting as
a coach, like you got to be like Brown hear
about the line. I ain't worried about it. I understand
it's a joke, but it only brings up the possibility
of an impropriety, and especially if it's right on the number,

(48:12):
and like LSU could take it. I'm sorry, and Old
Miss could take a knee at the end of the game.
But it's right on the number, and then they're like, ah,
we'll cook a field goal. Instead, you're gonna be like,
really really, Lane, So it's just a bad deal. I
think it's a bad idea.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
I sent you the proof in your DM so that
you can see that. He responded to Trey Wallace, who said,
I really love college football. Lane Kiffen's daughter Landry letting
the public know she's dating LSU linebacker Wit Weeks, five
days before LSU and Ole miss play. This is peak
mind games, and Lane Kiffen's reply was take the over. Okay,

(48:53):
so I've got your perspective. I now have your perspective
as a college football protect of college football, guardian of
college football. Yeah, what about as a dad? Because it
says on the frame around us. If you're watching this
on YouTube, you see fatherhood paste it all over this, family,
all over this. Are you trying to run it up

(49:13):
on your daughter's boyfriend?

Speaker 1 (49:15):
Hell yeah, Hell yeah. I gotta son this mofo. Every
time I get like, I'm the dad that's showing up
like in Bad Boys. Hey hey, hey you look thirty. Yeah. Hey,
So make sure that you have her back home on time,
and then we don't have no problems, because you know,

(49:38):
I don't want any problems but if you make something
where we have to have a problem, I'm gonna say,
no problem. I don't even want nobody dating my daughter.
But at the same time, I wanted to find a
good man, have a husband, have a great life, all
of those things. So I'm wrestling with this with the
twenty five year old at this point point time, and

(50:01):
then my fifteen year old. You know, she's interested in boys,
blah blah blah, And I'm like, so, I don't know.
I don't know how it's supposed to work. How did
he supposed to get get married? Because I didn't like
the last boyfriend that my twenty five year old had.
He was too he was too Yeah, he didn't have
enough testosterone for me.

Speaker 2 (50:22):
I am. I'm somebody who I think maybe avoids situations
and also is a little bit prude. So like, I
can't imagine myself going into a situation being like, well,
about to find out if my daughter's boyfriend can wrap up. Like,
that's just not I'm not going there. We're not doing that.
In fact, let's move on right now, how about it.

(50:43):
Reister or wrong. Jimmy Rogers, head coach of Washington State,
a former hero of my rival high school back when
I was a high school football player, he was playing
across town. Jimmy Rodgers, head coach of Washington State, gave
a detailed explanation of why he won't talk about who's
starting at quarterback going into the Apple Cup. And he

(51:05):
gave the explanation that we all understand to be true,
but none of us has ever really heard a coach articulate.
He's like, what they got like thirty million dollars that
they're working with. Of course I'm going to make them
stay up a little bit later at night to watch
high school tape of another quarterback. Of course.

Speaker 1 (51:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:29):
And then he apologized because he listened back to it,
and he's like, I sounded whiny, and I never want
to be the guy who whines or makes excuses.

Speaker 1 (51:41):
Now I can completely understand not wanting to sound whiny.

Speaker 2 (51:45):
I but.

Speaker 1 (51:50):
And you have to govern yourself. Now, he now notice
the thing I do. He didn't apologize for doing it.
He apologized for saying it. He said because it sounded whiny.
So I can understand where like you're like, I don't
want to come off come off whiney, like, oh, they
got so much more than us. No, I'm just saying, like, yo,

(52:10):
they let them. But I think he would have the
same approach whether whether they were playing Tulane or playing
you know, Tulsa, I don't think or Nevada. I think
he would do the exact same same thing. So maybe
he shouldn't have said it in a whiny way about
the thirty million dollars. He'd be like, Yo, this is
a good football team. They could they they can stay

(52:32):
up late watch some extra high school film. It don't
bother me.

Speaker 2 (52:36):
Yeah, I really, I think it really just depends on
where your head and harder at. Like, first of all,
an admission of a lack of resources is how he
got that job in the first place. Jake Dickert took
the wake Forest job because Washington State got left out
of a colt Like he has that job because of
the lack of resources. That we're going on.

Speaker 1 (52:56):
Because ordinarily you would not, like if it were Pack
twelve for or like, you wouldn't think that Washington State
would be a I mean, Wake Forest would be the
huge step up from Washington State prior to this.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
Okay, so let me ask you this, George, are you
do you have a minimum that you tip or Is
it conditional when you go in every situation or is
it like, all right, twenty percent is standard and like
if they do something great, then maybe all reflective.

Speaker 1 (53:23):
For the most part, it's just gonna hit it's conditional.
It's a minimum of fifteen percent, but it could be
one thousand percent. It depends.

Speaker 2 (53:31):
Yeah, but you have a minimum. You have a minimum
of fifteen Like, you're not gonna be like write zero
dollars on the risk you would have.

Speaker 1 (53:38):
To No, no, you would, you would have to be
Actually I still wouldn't, but I would write a note
like your service was absolutely terrible, but you deserve a
living wage.

Speaker 2 (53:49):
So hereio Okay, So that's my point right there is
even do it because that's what I looked at when
Jimmy Rodgers did this. I'm like, this is like, Okay,
I'm gonna tip twenty percent no matter what. But like,
if I'm gonna have to tip twenty percent no matter what,
I should at least get a refill. So like, am
I just gonna walk out of this restaurant and think

(54:10):
to myself that was bad service? Or I'm gonna write
something down and if they write something down, does that
make me whiny? I just I don't know. I don't
think this makes Jimmy Rogers look like he's whiny, but
obviously something didn't sit right with him.

Speaker 1 (54:24):
Yeah, and I like people who govern themselves.

Speaker 2 (54:30):
Very true. Speaking of governance, Virginia Tech is bringing in
a consultant, George on their football hiring process, and that
consultant is somebody who's got just a degree of separation
away from you in his relationship with your former NFL quarterback.
But Bruce Arians, Bruce Arians is being brought in to

(54:54):
help Virginia Tech find their next coach. Bruce Arians got
college football experience. I think he was Temple right is.

Speaker 1 (55:02):
This and Alabama running backs coach Ole Miss And then
because my initial thing was I was like, Yo, why
Bruce Arians? But then it became very easy to me.
I was like, Oh, he went to Virginia Tech. He
played at Virginia Tech. That makes sense.

Speaker 2 (55:19):
Is this to give people like us put a celebrity
face on selling the higher or is it? Or do
you think? But I don't see Bruce Arians because I mean,
he was the head coach of team that I rooted
for there for a while, and I don't see him
doing something for no for no reason, Like I don't
see him getting.

Speaker 1 (55:36):
Involves about Virginia Tech because he played there, so he
wants to because their last two hires in Fwine and
Fry have not gone very well. They've actually that that
would be the understatement, have gone extremely poorly. So they
need an adult in the room to like, he's going
to be the consult It's kind of like when, uh uh,

(56:00):
what team was that that hired? Oh, when what team
was that that hired? Oh, the Washington Commanders, when they
hired Bob Myers to be consultant to help their culture
and all of that stuff. This is what Bruce arians
is doing. I'm not against this at all. I think
it's smart.

Speaker 2 (56:21):
Do you think this could end up a situation where
they get like barn Letquick or something where he where
he because he was very loyal to his tree, very
loyal Todd Bowles all those dudes.

Speaker 1 (56:33):
Ooh, Byron might not be the worst idea because Barshall's
not that far from Yeah, exactly, That's what I was thinking.
But uh no, I think that they're gonna go with
somebody who they'll probably go. They're probably going to be
trying to find their version of Dan Lanning like a
young head coach who's had success. I mean, like you

(56:54):
know who you can build with, and or they're going
to try to get somebody like right and Silverfield that
they have the money because he's gonna be one of
he's gonna get one of these head coaching jobs.

Speaker 2 (57:06):
Clearly, I'm surprised he didn't just walk back through the
Arkansas locker room. Honestly. Yeah, but hey, yo, I could
do both. Yeah, so okay, So but but I think
what it says to me, maybe you agree, maybe you don't.
If you're bringing in a consultant and you're issuing a

(57:26):
press release about it, you're probably not gonna hire Shane Beep.
You're not gonna do the obvious thing, because why did
you bring a consultant? I know, I know, I know.
It's just there's a movement amongst tech fans to hire
the Sun. We've already brought this up.

Speaker 1 (57:42):
Yeah, that's why you can't just listen to fans all
the time.

Speaker 2 (57:45):
Very true. So we've already brought this up. Syracuse took
a twenty five thousand dollars fine for faking injuries again
second time the season. Worth it?

Speaker 1 (57:59):
Hell yeah, it was worth it. Have you seen the
movie F one? Have you seen the movie F one? Well,
I can't hear you now, but I said I to
Brad Pitt's character, washed up driver. He comes back to
help the new young hot shot driver. But they don't

(58:22):
have the car to be able to win, so they
gotta do dirty tactics, like they gotta just drag you
down in the mud, like they gotta play Iowa football
on the track. And that's what Syracuse is doing. They're
like Fran Brown is like, while I'm building my roster,
while i am getting the transfer portal right, while I'm

(58:45):
getting the resources right, while I'm building this, we are
gonna do whatever we need to do to win. We will.
We will fake an injury, We will do whatever we will,
uh you know, accidentally trip trip the ref if we
need to. The band will run out on the field
when they're not supposed to to get an extra time out.

(59:07):
Whatever needs to be done, we will do until we
don't need to do this no more.

Speaker 2 (59:15):
I'm struggling hearing Iowa football and F one in the
same sentence. It was it created a conflict in my
heart and mind. Never, never before in my life I've
heard the F word about yes. Yeah, all right, so
the last two things I want to get to and
rest are wrong are both. Ross Stellinger tweets Ross Sellinger

(59:38):
does an awesome job with y'allho sports. He posted the
group of what he thought was the most surprising undefeated teams,
and it was. It was nine teams. And I want
to read these nine teams to you, and I want
you to pick the horse that you're riding with. Then
you think we'll go the farthest out of this group.

(59:58):
So we got Tech, North Texas, Houston, Okay, UCF Okay,
Maryland yep, your UNLV arena football running rebels okay, Missouri
mm hmmm, Vandy and Mississippi State.

Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
This is easy. This is easy. That there's literally only
two options, two real options here, well two and a
half real options. Half option Georgia Tech. They could beat Miami,
that they could go undefeated, probably won't because that that

(01:00:42):
that that Temple game scared me a little bit. So
I think that at some point in time they're going
to run into a little hurdle. But they they could
definitely there's a world where they could end up in
the ACC Championship. But you know, Florida State and Miami
are going to stand in a way at them winning.
I don't think that they can beat both of those teams.
So that's why I give Georgia Tech a half. Missouri

(01:01:05):
Eli Drinkowitz has been winning very well and so they
got a shot to get into the SEC Championship. So
that's a potential option. North Texas no chance to playoff. Houston,
no UCF, no, Maryland, no Vanderbilt.

Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
No.

Speaker 1 (01:01:21):
But it's fun. That's a fun story. So the last
one is UNLV. I'm taking UNLV. I picked them to
go to the College Football Playoff before the season started.
So if I had to bet, out of all of
those teams, who would I ride with to do something? Yeah,
I'm riding with UNLV. They got the best opportunity out
of all of these teams to make the college football Playoff.

Speaker 2 (01:01:44):
They are they are definitely fun. I remember I text
you this weekend. I text you this weekend and I
was like, UNOV coming back. And by the time you
saw that text, they were down fourteen again.

Speaker 1 (01:01:57):
Yes, yeah, it was a touchdown and then a pick
six and you were like, well, there goes the neighborhood.
And then it's like uh uh not we win in
this game.

Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
And then the last thing up in reister are wrong? Uh?
These are these are the so far, there's not many
non conference games left, but obviously we have like Notre
Dame a Erkansas this weekend and things like that. The
Power League records in non conference Power four games through
Week four. The SEC's ten and three, The Big Twelve
is eight and six, the Big Ten is five and six,

(01:02:29):
and the ACC is five and twelve. Reister or wrong.
The SEC can be very very proud of this ten
and three record.

Speaker 1 (01:02:39):
They should absolutely be proud of at ten and three record,
but that don't make it them them the best conference.
Look at look at their losses. One of their best
teams Texas Alabama, and then who else lost in the
non conference.

Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
Not Mississippi State unfortunately for me.

Speaker 1 (01:03:03):
Yet yeah oh oh and then Arkansas.

Speaker 2 (01:03:08):
So map to Memphis to a non Power four team.

Speaker 1 (01:03:11):
Yeah oh oh. And you have Florida lose to South
Florida too, so Ralph. And the reason why I say
that is because Oregon played Oklahoma State. So like, I mean,
they did play a Power for four team.

Speaker 2 (01:03:33):
They tried, but I noticed before the game when I
traded to tell you they were not a Power four team. Yes,
you're like, no, they are us. And now now that
you've seen them, you're like, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:03:44):
USC Indiana, Oh hi, well no, Ohio State played Texas. Yeah,
Like the majority of the Big ten teams haven't played,
like the the top Big ten teams haven't played you know,
SEC teams and all of this stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
So like the.

Speaker 1 (01:04:04):
SEC has been beating up on the bottom of the ACC,
the bottom of the Big twelve. I don't care like
like this, this sounds like a good number, but when
until we start getting crossover games where you have top
versus top and all this stuff, it's hard to determine it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:22):
That makes sense, all right, So let's get into our
look ahead in the week five. What are you most
excited for going into Week five of the college football season?

Speaker 1 (01:04:32):
Penn State, Oregon. Everybody is there. And there's the reason
why if I had told you that Georgia Obama would
be on the same week and nobody would be there
in terms of like the college football shows, would you
have believe me?

Speaker 2 (01:04:47):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:04:48):
No, but hey, it just shows. And it's a white
out game. So Penn State booked this as their white
out game months ago. So you know what that means.
Oregon is the A side in this joint. Ain't no
upsets finna happen. They're the A side. That's why you
put them on your white out game. That's why they
put Ohio State on their white out games, because they

(01:05:09):
put the A side on a white out game.

Speaker 2 (01:05:14):
What does that mean?

Speaker 1 (01:05:16):
In boxing? There's the A side and there's the B
side in terms of who is the draw?

Speaker 2 (01:05:27):
So I am curious you are you more? I think
I am picking this up, but I want you to
confirm it verbally. More confident about this game now than
you were a month ago.

Speaker 1 (01:05:45):
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, this is right. Bro. I
can't wait to go on Happy Rebellion.

Speaker 2 (01:05:54):
Are you gonna go?

Speaker 1 (01:05:56):
Dude? I'm trying to go, but the wife leaves the
next day. I can't figure it out logistically because it's
so difficult to get in and out a happy Valley.
I need private jet money.

Speaker 2 (01:06:10):
Way we got and we got Any listeners to college
football apostles that have a private jet or private jet money,
we'll give you a shout out.

Speaker 1 (01:06:19):
Yeah I need that's worth money. Yeah, I'm looking forward
to that. Uh, USC Illinois because you're a USC believer.

Speaker 2 (01:06:29):
I'm coming around.

Speaker 1 (01:06:30):
I believe it's a Wooden Nickel and this Illinois game,
so one of these two teams will be exposed. Either
I would have jinxed the hell out of Illinois or
I'd be right about USC. So one of the two
is gonna happen. And I'm excited to see the fallout
from Bama. Georgia. Oh, because one of these fan bases,
I mean, because this is the game. Georgia, despite winning

(01:06:52):
two national championships, recently regularly loses. So what a one
in seven in the last eight.

Speaker 2 (01:07:00):
Son seven straight losses in the state of Georgia, Like
that they are owned And what's crazy is to me,
Georgia fans are not the most rational people. No, fans
are the most rational people. But when it comes to Alabama,
they are humble. Yes, they really they don't want to
be a little more, no, and they but they don't

(01:07:21):
like it's gone, it's our time.

Speaker 1 (01:07:22):
But then Kaitlyn Debor beat them last year too, You're like.

Speaker 2 (01:07:25):
A beat them, like and it was like thirty to
six or some nonsense going into halftime like it was.
It was brutal, and so they did come back. But yeah,
that's gonna be a really interesting game. I do want
to see because it's gonna be dramatics from whoever loses,
absolute dramatics. I want to ask you who you're rooting for.

(01:07:50):
So for me, I am still obsessed with this ole
Miss quarterback situation because.

Speaker 1 (01:07:59):
I was watching Dad Chamberlain's job.

Speaker 2 (01:08:03):
Yeah, yeah, I feel you, I feel you. Johnny Manziel
did the Ocho Cinco Shannon Sharp Sexual Deviant podcast or
whatever it's called, and he was, wait, what what was
It's a national news that a sixty year old was
hooking up with a teenager. That's not deviants? You know

(01:08:24):
how I believe in the half plus seven dating rule.
That's like a third plus seven violation. That's terrible. Anyway,
Johnny Manziel was on the show and he was talking
about the fact that he doesn't see any stars that
like look like him, Like not this year. Nobody's going
out there and just bawling, and like the whole time

(01:08:45):
he's talking about him, like he must not be watching
all miss. Yeah, because Trinidad Chambliss looks like Johnny Manziel
out there. He really does. He's electric. Yeah, yeah, wow,
you know how long I've been talking about that.

Speaker 1 (01:09:00):
I wait for that game. I cannot wait to see
Ohio State Washington. Oh my lake buddy, that has upset
potentially like sirens are going off.

Speaker 2 (01:09:10):
Yeah, I'm worried about how young that whole Washington offense is. Yeah,
but it's it's a home game on and they got
twenty two straight. Washington's won twenty two straight at home.
That's crazy, yep. Yeah. But Trinidad Chambliss, I want to
see him play against LSU, and I'm very excited about that.

(01:09:32):
But at the same time, like I feel for Austin
Simmons because what the hell, you know? But I'm soft
and we've established that. The other thing that I'm looking
at is Iowa State is getting a visit I believe
from University of Arizona. And University of Arizona got two transfers,
one that we talked about all summer long, and Javin Watley,

(01:09:53):
like from Chattanooga Superstar. He's looked exactly the way we
said he was gonna look. He looks great. But they
also got a running back Ismail Body out of Texas State,
who also looks like a star. Is that going to
be enough to win a road game in aims because
that bounce back for Brent Brennan, who they wanted fired,
that would be huge. And I got to know who

(01:10:14):
to be nervous about, right, Do I need to be
nervous about Iowa State? Do I need to be nervous
about Arizona? So that's gonna be interesting game. And the
last thing that I'm looking forward to is I am
now on this which happens to everybody, happens to you.
If Oregon is to ever lose, you end up having
to root for teams that you have no rooty interest for.

Speaker 1 (01:10:32):
So now you want Mississippi State to win every single game.

Speaker 2 (01:10:36):
Yeah, I'm on this Mississippi State train. But I also
can't watch their games because it's annoying as hell, or
I have to watch them on mute because the whole
Cowbell situation. But they're four and oh and now it
matters to me what they do because airs on states
outside the top twenty five. You know, most photers field anyway,
so you haven't started at number eleven. Yeah, I would

(01:10:58):
like Mississippi State to keep winning like they it. You know,
it matters at this point, and if they get wrecked
or they end up at the bottom, of the SEC again.
That's a bad look for the Big twelve. It's a
bad look for a su so go Bulldogs question mark,
question mark, question mark. Yeah, Blake Shape and been a
fan my whole life, Big Blake, Blake Shape and number

(01:11:19):
one fan.

Speaker 1 (01:11:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:11:22):
But that's it. That's all I got, Man, you got
anything else you want to end with? You did bring
up Ohio State Washington. I thought about flying I thought
about flying my son out for that game. But we're gonna,
we're gonna, We're gonna take a rain check on pushing
my son out the door to what would essentially be
the furthest college in the contiguous United States. From me,

(01:11:43):
he wants to go there. I don't want him to
go there. You don't want him to go there. But
I've noticed that if I push him in the opposite direction,
he's gonna do whatever he wants. So trying to remain
neutral on it. But I'm definitely not gonna get him
a ticket to see them beat Ohio State and then
lose him forever. So We're we're gonna save the official
visit for a later date.

Speaker 1 (01:12:04):
Oh man, Well, you guys, that's been the college football apostles.
I'm George reis Er. He's Ralph Hampson. Peace Out, Catch
you guys later.

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