May 2, 2022 • 40 mins
Olivia and Kaitlyn Bristowe have an immediate bond over how brutal DWTS is. It effected them both mentally, physically and emotionally but they both survived and Kaitlyn won!
The engaged former Bachelorette star and host admits that her fiance Jason Tartick is doing most of the wedding planning and is more focused on it than she is. Plus, Olivia and Kaitlyn take a stroll down Bachelor/Bachelorette Memory Lane.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
This is Conversations with Olivia Jade and I Heart Radio Podcast.
Welcome back to another episode of Conversations. Today's guest. If
you're familiar with the ABC franchise, I think you'll definitely
know who she is. She's been on Dancing with the Stars,
she's been on The Bachelor, She's hosted The Bachelorette. Um,
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she's really involved herself in the whole space, and I'm
so curious from just like the little things to like
where she started and how she got here. And I
think probably a lot of you are curious as well
if you're a fan. So I'm very excited to have
Caitlin Bristow on the podcast today and I really hope
you guys enjoyed this episode. Hi, Hi, oh, look how
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cute your background is? Well, yeah, I it's wallpaper and
a Neon sign and I yeah, it's my little like
ladies lounge. I call it. I love that. That's so cute. Well,
welcome to the podcast. Thank you so much for coming on,
Thank you for having me. Your hair looks great. That color,
Thank you so much. I just died it and I
don't know what came over me to thank you that. Um,
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did you just get back from the tour. Did it
just end? Um? So they got it ended at the
end of March. Okay, so you've been I've been done
for a second. Yeah, it feels like it was just
ended yesterday. But I'm also like, brain fog is so
real for me right now because I was in Mexico
and when you get back from vacation, everybody always says
you need a vacation from a vacation because of that
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kind of vacation. So I don't mind my brain fog today,
no worries about all. Um, Well, you want to tell
everybody a little bit about yourself today we have Caitlin
Bristow on the podcast. I'm so excited and um we
can just jump right into it. But for those maybe
who don't know you, Yeah, where you come from everything.
I come from a teeny tiny little town in Alberta
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called La Duke in Canada, and I grew up there.
I wanted to be a dancer my whole life. That's
what my mom was, a professional ballerina. I wanted to
follow in her footsteps. I had this whole dream of
being a dancer. I moved to Vancouver, Canada to be
a part of a dance company. It didn't work out
for me, and then I was like, well, I guess
I'm going to pick up my stuff and move with
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my boyfriend, who was a hockey player, very Canadian of me,
and we moved kind of all over the place, and
I ended up completely losing myself and it was just
a shell of myself because I was living somebody else's life.
And my girlfriend was like, you need to go on
the Bachelor when because we broke up, obviously, because you
need to go on the Bachelor. And I was like,
do they even pick Canadians, like Canadians go on that show?
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And she was like, yeah, they always picked Canadians, and
so she filled out all the information for me, kind
of sent in my application and they ended up calling
me a year later. So I was on Season nineteen
of The Bachelor, and then I become become became season
eleven Bachelorette, and then from there I went on to
start my podcast Off the Vine, and I started a
wine label called Spade and Sparrows, and I have a
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hair accessory line called Do Edit, and then I ended
up winning Dancing with the Stars period that as boss
Woman in a nutshell it's actually so crazy to think though,
because something like The Bachelor has presented so many opportunities
and like completely changed your life and you're one of
like the O G s. I would say, because I
feel like now the show was so different. Yes, and
just like because I remember watching like I was always
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an avid fan of the show with my mom. I'd
like make her, I'd force her to watch it with me,
and I was like way too young to probably even
understand what was going on. Um, but I remember your season,
and then I remember a few seasons after, and then
obviously with the rise of social media, I feel like
it changed so much. Yes, but I have so many
questions about like me just being a super fan, but
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like really like the old school kind of Bachelor vibe
because I feel like now maybe maybe I'm wrong, but
I feel like now it's turned into like sometimes people
go on for maybe hoping like for this world that
some have created after and I think like when you
guys all went on it, that was like a genuine
like it was a dating show. It really was, Yes,
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it was so genuine. I mean I knew that you
could make a name for yourself, like I knew some
people went on to like, you know, hosting gigs like
on E News or whatever, if you know, if that
was they chose to go that route. But social media
was not um what it is today. And I genuinely
went on being like like, if I fall in love,
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that's great. If I build something from it, that's also great.
But social media was not you know, the way of
the world that you couldn't build a business or a
platform the way you can now. You couldn't make money
off of it. It wasn't like a thing where I
went on to the show and I was like, I'm
going to get a bunch of Instagram followers, Like that
thought never crossed my mind. And I feel like it
was on my season where social media really kind of
started to blow up with people following people from the show.
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So it was a wild experience. Did you feel like
when you were off the show just such a big
like switch in your world of like walking down the
street and having people know you now, And was that
like kind of weird to adjust? It was and it wasn't.
I don't know why. My parents and my sister and
everyone always was like, Caitlin, you were out for this lifestyle.
Like so when like my whole life, I thought I
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was going to be maybe like a backup dancer or
do movies or TV with dancing. Like I thought I
was going to do something. Um So when this happened,
my whole family was kind of like, yeah, of course
you went on the Bachelor. That's so something you would do,
that's where And so when it happened, of course it
was not normal to walk down the street and have
people recognize me. But it was just like the transition
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was so weird because I would turned from like an
extrovert into an introvert. And I think that was the
weirdest transition for me because I was so outgoing. I
was always out I was always talking everybody, making new friends,
and everyone would have been like Caitlin's the biggest extrovert.
And then when I came off the show, it was
almost like I enjoyed my personal time and my personal
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space and I didn't trust anybody, and it was more
like that's what changed for me. I actually relate to
that a lot as well. Obviously I wasn't on The Bachelor,
but um, I do feel like when like certain parts
of life and certain aspects get like a little bit
more public, it comp like made me go the opposite yeah,
and just want to like keep everything super private and
not have like that judgment or whatever it is. It's like,
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I think it can even be like subconscious sometimes. For sure,
I didn't even I didn't even realize I was doing that.
Like a lot of my close friends. We actually had
this whole debate one time with Jason, my fiance, was like, oh,
Caitlin is such an introvert. And then it was with
all of my friends who have known me for so long,
and they're like, she's not. She's actually an extrovert, but
this situation has made her go inwards, like and we
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had this whole debate about it because I would have
thought after I came off of a TV show, I
would have loved like meeting new people and being like,
oh my god, yeah, like take a photo. Yeah. I
thought I would be like so comfortable with that. Um.
But weirdly, yeah, I went inward and obviously you can
understand that, yeah totally. And then you were the bachelorette.
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How was that experience? So weird? Dating like so many
guys at once and having to choose it feels so
wrong because you would never do that in the outside world,
but you really have to compartmentalize, like, Okay, this is
not the outside world. This is a TV show, So
you've got to make TV and you've got to make
good TV. Um, but you also are trying to find love,
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and that is a real thing. And it was you know,
I went my whole life not knowing how. You know,
I've never been on a reality TV show before. I've
never experienced television, so it was I I went onto
The Bachelor like pretty naive, and you know, I didn't
understand that producers had to make a TV show, whereas
when I was a bachelorette, I was like, okay, like
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let's make some good TV and let's fall in love.
And that was like the most dangerous combination because I
ended up, you know, hurting so many people's feelings and um,
losing people's trust and constantly disappointing everybody, and then just
ended up being so hard on myself because the thing
that I hate the most in life is disappointing people
I care about, and that's what I felt like. I
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just constantly was doing well. People were judging me for it.
But looking back now, I mean, it's been so many
years is that I would have said, like, it was hell.
It was really honestly hell for me to go through that,
But I would do it all over again. And I
just think, like, it's like you said earlier, It's gotten
me so many opportunities and I feel like I'm just
able to live the life that I'm like, I love
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doing podcasting, I love having a wine label, and I
wouldn't have had that without the show. So um years later,
I'm able to look back at it with like, see
the positives. Yeah, yeah, for sure, I know, but I
feel like, also, that's not really your fault. You did
have like literally you had to date all the different guys,
So I mean that's the format of the show. I
had fun for the first Yeah, it was fun for
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the first like a few weeks, because you know, you've
got a bunch of good looking dudes and they're all like,
oh my god, Caitlin, and they put you on the pedestal.
And then after a while you're like, oh, ship, this
gets really real. Yeah. Then you actually start to like
feel for these people, and like, even if it's not
like in an in love way, you're like, well, I
still care and I don't want to hurt you because
I'm the same way. I like hate disappointing people. I
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would I think I've hurt anybody's feelings. I'm like so
messed up over it. I feel so bad, So I
cannot imagine doing that. And then after Bachelorette time has
gone on living life, you end up posting the Double
Bachelorette season, right, Yes, that was Yes? How was that?
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It was that weird? And how did that come about?
And then like, not why you because you're amazing, but
did you stay connected with the franchise to that when
obviously Chris Harrison had to leave, Like, I'm just so
curious about how that came about. I still am kind
of curious about how that all played out, because I
keep thinking, like, how did I get Like what turn
did I take in life that I was, you know,
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taking over a role that was such an important role
and some and one that had been you know, the
role that has been filled for so long by the
same consistent person who was so good at his job
and everyone knew he was the face of the franchise.
And so it was interesting because I did keep in
test with so many people from you know, the show
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producers or certain people I had like bad blood with
because I felt manipulated. Um but you know, we all
after time and healing, you can come around and see
that they were just doing their jobs. But um so
I kept to touch with certain people and then I
kind of was like I felt like maybe even a
bit blacklisted from the show after for a while because
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I was so bitter and I'm a very like honest
person who speaks my mind about everything, and I probably
said a little too much and they were like, well,
don't bite the hand that feeds you, like we'll show
you kind of thing. And so it was a bit
of like shock like butting heads for a little while
after that. But I think after, you know, after I
broke up with my past relationship from the show, I
realized how much of a platform that was for me
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to live a life that I wanted to live and
then kind of got back in the good books. And
I was so shocked because when they called me to
do that, I was like, is it a hosting role?
And are like, we're not really sure what it's gonna
look like, like they're kind of trying to figure it
out as time goes on, too, so they were like,
it's kind of like a mentor role, ummun Tasia would
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kind of go in and, you know, help with the
bachelorette and talk her through some things that only a
handful of people that could do, you know, women having
conversations that they couldn't have with Chris Harrison. But it's
more of a mentor role, not um not host. And
then we got there and we were doing the show
and I'm like, well, this is definitely hosting, Like we're
doing the final here's the final rows and going in
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for the certain parts and like tinking the glass to
be like okay giving out there. So then the next season,
I was like, Okay, we're hosting. So then I got
it in my head that like we could potentially be
hosts of the show, and I thought it made so
much sense because if I had a woman that was
helping me there, that had been in my shoes before,
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that would have well, I mean, it might have changed everything.
So it wasn't a good idea, but I feel like
it just would helped mentally so much more to have
someone empower you and validate your insecurities and everything that
you're going through. So um, I just kind of had
now put my head in the space of like, oh,
maybe I could potentially host this, So it was a
little sad when they didn't go with us again and Bachelorette,
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but I get having a consistent host and but yeah,
I agree with the heck um no, but that's amazing.
You guys did a really great job on that. I'll
stop about The Bachelor now because you have so many
other things, just super fan. We obviously both did Dancing
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with the Stars. You won Dancing with the Stars, which
is so exciting and I feel like a lot of
people unless you've been on the show. And I was
talking about this recently with some buddy who was at
a dinner with me and we had like started talking
randomly and she was like, I had a Dancing with
the Stars and like randomly came up, and I was like,
people don't understand how tiring that show is and how
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much work goes into it and you want it. It
is literally the definition of blood, sweat and tears. Like
you put everything into it mentally, physically, emotionally. It's so
draining and so much work and so many hours of
your day. Like people really don't know until there unless
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they've been on the show, Like how much work you
put into it, and I just remember, like in the
last three weeks of it, I was like, send me home,
I can't do this anymore. But you know, I'm I
would be like with then I'd get on the dance
floor and be like, I can't go home. But like
my ribs were injured, my ankle was injured. I was
just like in pain the whole time. And I just
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like had that mentality of like you just gotta get
to another day and then the next decade, and you
just got to get through another day. But yeah, and
you did so great on the show. You were one
of our favorites. You're so sweet. Thank you. I was
so nervous because I've never danced before, so I was like,
I don't know if this show, if this could be,
this could do the exact opposite. I want people to
like see my personality, but like what if I had
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just come across and it's so embarrassing and I can't dance.
But I honestly had so much fun doing it that
I like made it worth it. But you know what's
funny too, I remember, like you know how they make
you do those interviews after like every probably twice a week,
or something where you go in and then you sit
there for hours and then you leave and then you
go back to practice or whatever it was. I missed
one of them one time, my agents calling me like
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where are you. They're all like they have to leave whatever,
and I just remember like sobbing on my bed. I
was so stressed. I was like, no, I can't do it,
like I'm tired, and it's brutal. It really is. It
really is a brutal process that's obviously like you get
so much out of it, and then when it's just
finished and then you go home, you're like, it was
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such a whirlwind and it changes your whole life in perspective,
and you like feel like you've accomplished so much, and
then it just ends so abruptly and then you're like
what just happened? And then literally would would never do
something like that again. But then you miss you know,
your partner and everybody around and the Monday nights it's
so far you partners with again Artom Artom right, he's
so lovely. And then when you when you were going
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on tour, where you like hesitant at all or was
it just like I'm down zero hesitation? I because because
of my passion for dance my whole life. I was like,
if you told me I was going to tour on
a tour bus, dancing with professionals, like in different cities
on a bus, I was like, this is a dream
come true. So um yeah, zero hesitation. I was like,
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sign me up, I'll do the whole tour. How was
the tour because you got to be with like 'm
On and Amanda and some people from my season who
I adore. Also, how funny is them? On? He is
He's one of my favorite people I've ever come across
my whole life. Here just the happiest, funniest, most chill,
laid back, coolest, Like I just we ended up bonding
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so much because we were always backstage, like not in
all of the dances, so we would learn the choreography
together backstage and like do hilarious versions of the show.
But yeah, it was so fun being on tour. I
truly thought it would be way harder than it was.
I thought, you know, being away, um on a bus,
sleeping on a bus every night, trying to podcast and
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run my business as while being on the road. Like
it was hard. Of course, don't get me wrong, but
I loved every second of it so much because I
got along so well with everybody and there was no
drama and it was just surprisingly like easy and and
fun and we just like bonded. It felt like family.
And um, I missed the bus nights so much, not
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the sleeping part, but like the bonding, game nights, drinking wine,
all those kinds of things. Yeah, I feel like also
with at least with my season, and I'm sure it's
similar to you as well, Like you get so close
with everybody on the show at the time, just because
like everybody feels like they really understand what each one
is going through, and like, I feel so lucky with
the people I had on my season because I'm like
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somewhere like posing age with me, and then some were
just like such great mentors to have around. And then
we had like me Laura, who was like mom figure
to me, and then like a mom who I would
like just hang with most of my time. And then
I had Jokeo, who was like a little sister, adorable,
fun to be around. So you did have a good
season of people. I remember being like, oh, that looks
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like fun, and everybody like what's crazy is it's so competitive,
but everybody's also rooting for each other because you know,
like you said, what you're going through. And so it's
such a unique atmosphere because I'm the most competitive person
going like I need to check myself even in my
relationship sometimes because I'm so competitive. And so for me
it was so interesting because I was like, Wow, I'm
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really like rooting for the people that are up against me.
And it's because you you do. You just understand what
you're going through and it becomes a family. But I
will say our season was so different from any other
one because ours was right like covid D and we
couldn't even hang out with each other, like it was nuts. Yeah,
I think ours we were supposed to not hang out
with one another and they would like try and be strict.
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But I think also by that time it was kind
of like a free for all um, so it kind
of worked out. But when you were on tour, was
it hard being away from obviously like Jason and I
saw you have two dogs. Yes, oh my gosh, they're
right now. It was really hard to be away from them.
But this is not really a good thing. But I
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was prepped for it because of filming back to back
Bachelor at seasons and from being Dancing with the Stars,
Like we were kind of in this mentality that we're like, oh,
we get to miss each other and we'll like you know.
But but that being said, it was actually really hard.
And we're supposed to be planning a wedding and when
I came back, he was gone on a book tour
and we've kind of been like, gosh, we need to
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reconnect because we want to plan this wedding and we
are so disconnected from being apart and being so busy
that now that I mean, he's coming home tonight from
New York and we're like, let's just like sit down
and talk because we have not been able to do that.
So it's also like so hard I feel like in
a relationship too, because it's so much about like spending
that quality time and like keeping the romance alive. Yeah, no,
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that that went out the window for us because we
were just both so busy and then realized how important
that quality time is and and needing to make up
for lost time because when we got back it was like, wait,
like what have you been doing and what's going Like
he would come to you know, a couple of cities.
But it's just it's really hard. Relationships are hard in general,
and when you're doing long distance and both have your
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own careers and trying to plan a wedding, like it's
relationships are so hard totally. And he was a part
of Bachelor franchise as well. Yeah, yes, but he was
on somebody else's season before, Yes, I remember correctly. So
he was on Beca Koufran's season. I remember that, yes,
And it was so funny because of of course I
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had this three and a half year engagement from the show,
and that is pretty like crazy for you know, usually
at that point people will stay together because it's been
three and a half years and usually you know by
that point. But um, so when we broke up, I
was like, never again while I date somebody in the
Bachelor franchise, Like I didn't even want to date anyone
that was like I had anything to do with social
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media or wanted to some normal dude. I was like,
I thought it was so hot if people in Evans.
Instagram was like hot. Um. And then I interviewed him
on my podcast and I was like, ship, he's cute.
That's really connected. Was an interview yeah. Yeah. I went
out to Seattle to visit a friend, um, and I
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was like, who's in Seattle that I could interview from
like bachelor franchise, And there was a couple of people
and Jason was one of them, and so I rented
a studio and he came to the studio and that's
when we met. Was through the podcast. Oh that's so cute,
and you got to be in person, which is nice.
Obviously I was going to say, you did this over
zoom and you knew that's wild pre pandemic when things
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were normal. So that's how you guys met. And then
was it instant like you guys posting and just like
announcing you together? Was it like the secret let's run
around a little bit, figure it out. I'm such an
open book and he's a little bit more on the
secretive side. Um. So that was tricky because I also
was dealing with the outside world thinking I was moving
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on too fast, because they thought I just jumped from
like an engagement with Sean to this relationship with Jason,
when really my relationship with Sean had been struggling for
so long. And then you don't expect, you know, you
find people when you least expect it, and that's definitely
what happened. But we were like kind of just like
got to a point where people would take photos of
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us or see us or we were out and we
were just like, why are we hiding anything? It wasn't
it wasn't like an instant connection when we met, because
I was going through a hard time, Like I was
still sad, wasn't looking um. But he walked out of
the podcast. So I've told the story million times, but
of course you don't know this stuff. Um. He walked
out of my podcast, called his mom and he was like,
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I just met my future wife. And I walked out
of the podcast, and I was like, they need to
make that guy the bachelor. And just like my brain
was not in that, you know, zone to feel anything
towards him. So we just like we kind of work
like I friend zoned him so hard, like he would
be like, gosh, you're such a bro. And I was
just such a brow with him for so long to
the point where we like we talked all the time,
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and then it just kind of turned into what it
what it is. I feel like those are the best
ones too, though, when you actually get to know somebody
slowly without it being like okay, like let's just see
where it happens or whatever it is, like that's it
was nice the best way to do it, at least
in like past relationships I've been in when I'm like,
when I date somebody, like after like a week of
knowing them, I'm like, this is not gonna work. Yeah,
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that's usually like the falling and lust when it just
happens all too fast and then it ends in disaster.
I've been there too for sure. Um, Okay, So wedding plans, yes,
you know not do you want to do it in
l a like destination back home? We want to do
it in Nashville. We don't have a date. We've reached
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out to three different venues and we are trying to
pick a date because that's what you do. That's usually
the next step, and we have a wedding planner. Um.
But again it's just like we are we need to
get back on the same page because we have not
done anything. And it's like, of course that's what people
want to know, and of course we want to have
answers when people ask us how wedding planning is going.
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But it's so hard when we're in the positions that
we're in. Even with the wedding planner, I thought it
would be easy, breezy because we signed a wedding planner
and I thought he would just be like, Okay, do this,
here's this that's gonna go here, You're gonna do this.
But it's so much more than that, and I want, yeah,
that's something, Jason, I need to really sit down. It's
back from New York. Yeah, yeah, that's what we said. Like,
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but that's so funny because we're like, oh, we'll do
it in Mexico. We're you know, in too Loom. It's
such a vibe, or we can like sit down and
you know, do some stuff. No, we were. We had
an itinerary from our friend. It was back to back,
like his birthday, going out doing this, and then I
got back, and then we got back. He goes to
New York and we're like, this is just really make
this happen. I feel like that probably takes so much work.
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And I also feel like it's hard too, because maybe
this is just like stereotypical for me to say, but
I feel like for like women are normally the ones
that are like really trying to plan it, not trying
to plan it, but like maybe I just think we're
more responsible and honor ship and so we'll be like
we're gonna get this done. That's exactly right. But Jason's
that one in the relationship. I'm not a planner, Like
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I'm actually terrible at planning things or just anything, like
I get overwhelmed so easily. But Jason's usually the one
that's a little bit more of the planner. And I
think I kind of relied on that where he was
relying on the wedding planner and then I was relying
on the two of them, and it just got lost. Um.
But yeah, women are usually you know there, we are
multitaskers to the maximum and usually can have all at
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all and know how we want things done. Well. Also,
you're handling like twenty other different things, and I want
to talk about them, so your podcast, can you tell
them a little bit about it and what it's about. Yes,
it's my favorite thing that I mean, no wine is too.
I I love doing a podcast because I just love
connecting with people. And like I always say, you never
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have like a real authentic conversation with people anymore where
there's no phones, where you're just in the zone for
one hour talking about things that are important or feelings
or you know, feeling like you can laugh or cry
or just have this safe place where other people can
relate to. So I started the podcast. Gosh, it's like
five years ago now, I feel like I should look
into that. It's either four years I think it was
(25:43):
five years ago I started. Oh, so you were kind
of starting like before this was a thing. Yeah, I
remember being like, what is this all about? Like what
is the podcast? I always when I was little wanted
a radio show that was like another secret little dream
of mine, and I'd interview my family and I'd have
this like I'd always love being on a microphone and
asking people questions. And so when podcasting, that's I was like,
(26:05):
what an interesting time to get into podcasting, Like I
think this is gonna be a thing, And so I
started it. It's called Off the Vine, and um, basically
everyone who knows me knows I just love a glass
of wine. I love socializing with like close friends or
having nice conversation over a glass of wine. I spill
like not not t like it's not gossipy. It's like
(26:25):
like I'll tell embarrassing stories about anything, like I just
people are like, why do you share so much information?
And I'm like, it's just who I was. Yeah. So
it's basically I'll have guests on anyone from like reality
TV or influencers or UM country music artist. Because I
live in Nashville, I've had a lot of them on
(26:46):
and we basically just have a glass of wine or
not if it's ten in the morning, I'm not going
to make them drink and have real conversation about like
either hardships or how they got to where they are
in their career and um, like how they've learned lessons
in life from going through heartbreak or you know, and
pretty I mean, of course, promoting whatever they have going on.
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It's usually just forty five minutes to an hour of
just real conversation, and I make my guests always confess
something to me. So usually there's an embarrassing story in there,
a game we play, and it's basically I just like
people walking away from the podcast being like, whoa I
just escaped for forty five minutes and like can't stop smiling,
or like feeling like I like to empower women to
just be so authentic to themselves and go after what
(27:30):
they want to go after. Yeah, it's so fun. That's
amazing because I feel like, for me, I started my
podcast kind of recently and I'm still like very much
trying to figure it out. Oh, you're doing great, by
the way, Thanks. You're really easy to talk to, so
it's not like challenging, but I also want to know
you're doing great. Yeah. I also want to just like
(27:50):
get a little bit more comfortable with it, I think still,
because it can be so it can just be like
so awkward, I feel like for me at least, and
then I'm was afraid of saying the wrong thing. Yeah,
you gotta let that go though, because do you mean
to the guest or like able to hear? Well, if
I say the wrong thing to the guests, I'm pretty
quick to clear it up, like it's fine, But I'm
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I'm more afraid of like everything I say getting like
picked up somewhere and then like just one sentence of
what I say is like in the news and then
everybody's like this, girl, you kind of got to surrender
to that. You gotta surrender to that because it's gonna
happen regardless, and that will get more people to listen
to your podcasts, and it sucks. Like there's so many
times where I see a headline from the podcast or
(28:33):
like somebody's upset with me because from my podcast it's
been a headline and I'm like, I have no control
over that, and if anything like that will make and
and a lot of people do. It sucks because a
lot of people just read headlines or um just see something.
They don't read the full article or listen to the
whole podcast. So you kind of just gotta like brace
yourself because those things will happen. But also you'll like
(28:54):
connect with so many great people and you'll work out
the kinks and you'll like get your you'll find your
groove where you're just like you're already really and I'm
not just saying this, Like you're natural at asking questions
and like transitioning into the next one. So I feel
like you're going to be good. Thank you so much.
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Speaking of transitioning wine company, I'm obsessed with wine as well.
How did you start that? Oh my gosh, well, what
kind of wine do you drink? Red one? I mean,
I like all wine, like if I'm in the day
or like buy a pool or something I'm probably gonna
have like white wine or rose, but at night I
probably am going to be drinking red. That's the exact same.
It's a glass of tequila, same tequila and wine or
(29:49):
like my jam that I'm a little tequila doubt from Mexico,
but not really but not really give yourself like forty
eight hours you'll be back. Yeah, the wine was actually
way harder than I thought. It was good because I
think from coming off the show and getting opportunities or
brand deals, like some of them will just you know,
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come to you and they'll you know, you don't have
to prove yourself. You just put your name on something
and hopefully you believe in it. I'm very I've turned
down so much money and I hate saying that out
loud because it sounds so stupid and cocky, but I've
turned down so much money just to like align myself
with the right products or things that I actually believe in.
And so from doing that, I was like, gosh, it
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makes so much sense for me to start my own
wine label. I don't want to slap my name on
somebody else's wine, and like, I want to put in
the work and I want it to be mine, and
I thought it would be easier, but um, I luckily
have a really incredible team. I have two business partners
that have really helped with like the logistics of things. Um,
but I got to go out to Napa. I got
to try so many different wines and create the one
(30:54):
I want, like different percentages of like a cab franc
or like a cab. I actually got to like measure
and put in and make my own what I love
to drink. And so that was a really fun process,
even though I didn't use the spit bucket and I
got way too drunk the first night and yeah, I
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was like so hammered, and I was like I love it,
this is the wine. And then the next day we
got all excited we opened it to have it with dinner,
and I was like, this is disgusting. I was just
like wasted and thought anything at that point would have
been like yeah, yeah, So I had to start all over.
But yeah, it's really hard because in this in that industry,
you do have to prove yourself, especially as a it's
(31:35):
a very like it's a man's world. The wine industry.
I don't know. The alcohol business is just it it is,
and there you said there's like a slogan in the
wine world that like, um, make the make the wine
for men and the women will follow something like that,
And I was like you, and so I wanted to like, yeah, exactly.
I wanted to just flip that on its head and
(31:56):
come up with us like boss ass, like feminine and
wine brand that you know, guys will enjoy drinking, women
will enjoy drinking. Anyone can enjoy it. And but like
without the rules, like I don't care if you pair
it with you know, filet or whatever, like pair it
with chips, I don't care. I just wanted to be
like not snobby and really fun. And um, I had
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to really prove myself in the industry because there's been
a lot of celebrity wines quote unquote um that have
not worked. So I've worked really hard at it and
it's I love it. It's actually the wine I like
choose to drink at night. It's not just like like
that's amazing, y. Yeah, yeah, I'll have to send you something. Yes,
I would love somewhere is it being sold so you
(32:39):
can get it at Spade and Sparrows dot com. Um,
there's a lot of like in California, it's in over
a hundred seventy five walmarts. Yeah, we're working really hard
to get it in targets right now. Some states has
it in retail. Um, A lot of places in Canada
have it in retail. But overall, um, you can buy
(32:59):
it online, which is it's It's tough because online obviously
you have to pay for shipping. So I always encourage people.
I'm like, don't just buy one bottle. Are you're gonna
pay the same amount of you know, for the shipping
that it is for one bottle. You buy six bottles,
only gets better and then you only pay the twenty
dollars for shipping. Yeah, there you go. That's actually that
makes perfect logic. Um true or false? If your wine
(33:23):
label gets into Target, is it true that you're going
to get a Target tattoo? True? How could they say no?
I will literally be a walking brand of Target. I
like the red dot on the forehead. I mean maybe
not so much. I'm so spontaneous with stuff like this,
Like I just went today. It's actually hurting so bad.
I just sar this pierced right here. See, Like I'm
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I really want more piercings because all mine on my
ears closed up. But I'm like, oh, like the sleeping
on my head and I sleep like this, Okay, see
I sleep on my side and I can't do it
any other way. And I think, also, that's not great
for you anyway. But I that's like why I'm hesitant
to get piercings, because I think about my sleep. That's
(34:08):
fair enough. Nobody likes their sleep, Like Caitlin Bristo, I
love sleep. It like it's I need nine hours to
function to my day. But I'm very like, I'm just
spontaneous with tattoos, Like do you have tattoos? Yeah, I've
got a spade and then I've got sparrows in the
back of my arm. Cute. So it all aligns with
like what you're passionate about and your business names and
stuff like that. Yeah, yeah, there's always a story behind everything.
(34:29):
And then I have like tear drops. Look at this
tear drops, So I go, oh, that's so cute. I
just have a bunch of random tattoos everywhere. And like
in Mexico, not the strip, but the one before I
had too much tequila, I got a diamond tattooed on me.
Like I don't even well then I was like, oh, look,
diamonds are a Girl's best friend. That's the song I
won the Mirrorball to. Okay has meaning, so it all
makes sense. Um, so yeah, with the Target, if my
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wine gets into Target, I was like, I will one
thousand percent get like a dainty little like like Target circle,
like black and white or something like, I'm not going
to do a big red stamp, so no, I would
know if they got it in, I would be so proud.
I'll do anything. Walmart's like, what the hell, why haven't
you got a Walmart tattoo? It's so funny. This is
such a random This is actually has nothing to do
(35:12):
with wine, but had something to do with Target. I
remember when I was young and my dad had a
clothing line that was in Target. I think like before
Target was really like um like it was like I
was really young, and I remember always walking like through
Target and seeing his name and it's such a bizarre
name that I never really understood. Like I would be like,
it's so weird. My dad's name is like the store, like,
(35:35):
what's going on? This is so funny? And then like
when I got older, they were like that was what
was your dad's clothing line Masimo what Yeah, but I
never knew that clothing line. His name is Bosomo. I
did not know that. Oh that's crazy and not funny.
But I remember like seeing that and being like, this
(35:55):
is really bizarre that this name's and target, Like what
are the odds somebody else's name? It's my awesome out
there is that? No idea that's so funny? You found
that bizarre? But weren't like my mom is on full House,
Like wasn't that a crazy thing? I also didn't understand that. Well,
I feel like my mom always really like I still
have no idea how Full House was a big show
(36:16):
or not. I'm so confused. Yeah, because well I kind
of know now a little bit. But it was just
because when Fuller House came out, Um, I was on YouTube.
I had like started my YouTube channel, and I was
like really into like I knew like all the little
behind the scenes of like how many views and how
quick views are and if it's up for two hours
and it has over two views, that's like really great
or whatever it was. And so when the Fuller House
(36:38):
trailer came out, I was older, um, and I saw
how many views it was getting and I like remember
going into my mom's room and being like it was
full house of big show, Like why does this have
like over like fourteen million views in a day, Like
I don't understand. Oh my gosh, I loved just your
mom was. I would have been like I and Antie
bet she was my life, like my growing up every
day that that was my favorite show ever. And I
(37:00):
still watch it just to like feel like nostalgic. Yeah,
like I I've seen a few episodes as I've grown
up a little bit. I remember when I was young,
I was like, I don't want to watch my mom
kissed John Stamos, which is just so dumb amazing. So
I was like really weird about it. But I feel
like she, I feel like she genuinely believes like it
was like not not that crazy of a show because
(37:21):
she or she's just like extremely humble. I have no
idea she must be, because that was like, if you
asked me, that was like the biggest show that was
everyone watched full House, and it was like back when
everyone watched cable, like nobody was on YouTube or neflicks
or anything like. That was the show for sure. Oh yeah,
(37:42):
way back in the day. But yeah, that's why I
dyed my hair red. I love to see you and
it makes sense. I was like, I have no idea.
I've never died my hair before, and if I'm going
to change the color, maybe I'll change it to like
somebody in my family that had similar hair when they
were my age. It makes sense. Um, I'm not going
to keep you for too long and take up all
your time, but even though I can literally talk to
(38:03):
you for hours, But what's upcoming? Anything you have next?
Um plan that you want to share? Um? I always
dropped new edits for my hair accessory line, so it's
called do edit D E W E D I T
and that's on Instagram, and we do so many fun drops.
So we do usually one in like spring, summer, fall, winter,
and we just did a Bachelor at party one where
(38:24):
it's like all neon and we did veils and like
really fun Bachelor at party stuff. And then the next
one I'm not even allowed. I don't know if I'm
allowed to say it, but whatever, Um, it's gonna be
like a full Bridle edit. So um, I usually just
do fun things that I have going on, and then
like we're going to do a pride one, and we
just are always doing something new with it, which is
so much fun. And then truly, I just I want
(38:47):
everyone to be in my wine club because you can.
So you can be in the wine club and get
a certain amount of bottles and you end up getting
free shipping if you're in the wine club. I'll join
your wine club, do I just find on mine. I'm
sending you the wine, um, but you should be our
guests on the next wine club. We do zoom parties
all the time, like every three months, and people come
in and if they you know, are in the wine club,
(39:09):
they get to come hang out and do zooms and
we make either cocktails or we have a special guest
on and some so fun. So yeah, I hope to
just you know, do that and hope wedding planning is
gonna next time I talk to you. Hopefully I have
way more to say than that. Exactly. Well, thank you
so much for coming on. You're a gem and you're
doing so much and I know like people listening are
(39:29):
going to feel really inspired by this, because I feel
like sometimes as a woman, it's overwhelming and it's scary
to put yourself in so many different fields and You're
just a perfect example of doing it and crushing it.
So my favorite motto is do it scared. You can
want to do anything and be scared, but like, do
it scared. So what if you're scared? So what if
you also if it doesn't work, Just do it scared.
And thank you so much for having me on. You
(39:51):
are also a gem and I thought maybe you had
this podcast for a while because you're doing really great.
Thank you so much. You're the best. Enjoy the rest
of your day having me you tears my baby m
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This is Conversations with Olivia Jade and I Heart Radio Podcast.
Welcome back to another episode of Conversations. Today's guest. If
you're familiar with the ABC franchise, I think you'll definitely
know who she is. She's been on Dancing with the Stars,
she's been on The Bachelor, She's hosted The Bachelorette. Um,
(00:23):
she's really involved herself in the whole space, and I'm
so curious from just like the little things to like
where she started and how she got here. And I
think probably a lot of you are curious as well
if you're a fan. So I'm very excited to have
Caitlin Bristow on the podcast today and I really hope
you guys enjoyed this episode. Hi, Hi, oh, look how
(00:45):
cute your background is? Well, yeah, I it's wallpaper and
a Neon sign and I yeah, it's my little like
ladies lounge. I call it. I love that. That's so cute. Well,
welcome to the podcast. Thank you so much for coming on,
Thank you for having me. Your hair looks great. That color,
Thank you so much. I just died it and I
don't know what came over me to thank you that. Um,
(01:09):
did you just get back from the tour. Did it
just end? Um? So they got it ended at the
end of March. Okay, so you've been I've been done
for a second. Yeah, it feels like it was just
ended yesterday. But I'm also like, brain fog is so
real for me right now because I was in Mexico
and when you get back from vacation, everybody always says
you need a vacation from a vacation because of that
(01:30):
kind of vacation. So I don't mind my brain fog today,
no worries about all. Um, Well, you want to tell
everybody a little bit about yourself today we have Caitlin
Bristow on the podcast. I'm so excited and um we
can just jump right into it. But for those maybe
who don't know you, Yeah, where you come from everything.
I come from a teeny tiny little town in Alberta
(01:50):
called La Duke in Canada, and I grew up there.
I wanted to be a dancer my whole life. That's
what my mom was, a professional ballerina. I wanted to
follow in her footsteps. I had this whole dream of
being a dancer. I moved to Vancouver, Canada to be
a part of a dance company. It didn't work out
for me, and then I was like, well, I guess
I'm going to pick up my stuff and move with
(02:12):
my boyfriend, who was a hockey player, very Canadian of me,
and we moved kind of all over the place, and
I ended up completely losing myself and it was just
a shell of myself because I was living somebody else's life.
And my girlfriend was like, you need to go on
the Bachelor when because we broke up, obviously, because you
need to go on the Bachelor. And I was like,
do they even pick Canadians, like Canadians go on that show?
(02:34):
And she was like, yeah, they always picked Canadians, and
so she filled out all the information for me, kind
of sent in my application and they ended up calling
me a year later. So I was on Season nineteen
of The Bachelor, and then I become become became season
eleven Bachelorette, and then from there I went on to
start my podcast Off the Vine, and I started a
wine label called Spade and Sparrows, and I have a
(02:56):
hair accessory line called Do Edit, and then I ended
up winning Dancing with the Stars period that as boss
Woman in a nutshell it's actually so crazy to think though,
because something like The Bachelor has presented so many opportunities
and like completely changed your life and you're one of
like the O G s. I would say, because I
feel like now the show was so different. Yes, and
just like because I remember watching like I was always
(03:18):
an avid fan of the show with my mom. I'd
like make her, I'd force her to watch it with me,
and I was like way too young to probably even
understand what was going on. Um, but I remember your season,
and then I remember a few seasons after, and then
obviously with the rise of social media, I feel like
it changed so much. Yes, but I have so many
questions about like me just being a super fan, but
(03:38):
like really like the old school kind of Bachelor vibe
because I feel like now maybe maybe I'm wrong, but
I feel like now it's turned into like sometimes people
go on for maybe hoping like for this world that
some have created after and I think like when you
guys all went on it, that was like a genuine
like it was a dating show. It really was, Yes,
(03:59):
it was so genuine. I mean I knew that you
could make a name for yourself, like I knew some
people went on to like, you know, hosting gigs like
on E News or whatever, if you know, if that
was they chose to go that route. But social media
was not um what it is today. And I genuinely
went on being like like, if I fall in love,
(04:19):
that's great. If I build something from it, that's also great.
But social media was not you know, the way of
the world that you couldn't build a business or a
platform the way you can now. You couldn't make money
off of it. It wasn't like a thing where I
went on to the show and I was like, I'm
going to get a bunch of Instagram followers, Like that
thought never crossed my mind. And I feel like it
was on my season where social media really kind of
started to blow up with people following people from the show.
(04:41):
So it was a wild experience. Did you feel like
when you were off the show just such a big
like switch in your world of like walking down the
street and having people know you now, And was that
like kind of weird to adjust? It was and it wasn't.
I don't know why. My parents and my sister and
everyone always was like, Caitlin, you were out for this lifestyle.
Like so when like my whole life, I thought I
(05:04):
was going to be maybe like a backup dancer or
do movies or TV with dancing. Like I thought I
was going to do something. Um So when this happened,
my whole family was kind of like, yeah, of course
you went on the Bachelor. That's so something you would do,
that's where And so when it happened, of course it
was not normal to walk down the street and have
people recognize me. But it was just like the transition
(05:25):
was so weird because I would turned from like an
extrovert into an introvert. And I think that was the
weirdest transition for me because I was so outgoing. I
was always out I was always talking everybody, making new friends,
and everyone would have been like Caitlin's the biggest extrovert.
And then when I came off the show, it was
almost like I enjoyed my personal time and my personal
(05:46):
space and I didn't trust anybody, and it was more
like that's what changed for me. I actually relate to
that a lot as well. Obviously I wasn't on The Bachelor,
but um, I do feel like when like certain parts
of life and certain aspects get like a little bit
more public, it comp like made me go the opposite yeah,
and just want to like keep everything super private and
not have like that judgment or whatever it is. It's like,
(06:08):
I think it can even be like subconscious sometimes. For sure,
I didn't even I didn't even realize I was doing that.
Like a lot of my close friends. We actually had
this whole debate one time with Jason, my fiance, was like, oh,
Caitlin is such an introvert. And then it was with
all of my friends who have known me for so long,
and they're like, she's not. She's actually an extrovert, but
this situation has made her go inwards, like and we
(06:30):
had this whole debate about it because I would have
thought after I came off of a TV show, I
would have loved like meeting new people and being like,
oh my god, yeah, like take a photo. Yeah. I
thought I would be like so comfortable with that. Um.
But weirdly, yeah, I went inward and obviously you can
understand that, yeah totally. And then you were the bachelorette.
(06:51):
How was that experience? So weird? Dating like so many
guys at once and having to choose it feels so
wrong because you would never do that in the outside world,
but you really have to compartmentalize, like, Okay, this is
not the outside world. This is a TV show, So
you've got to make TV and you've got to make
good TV. Um, but you also are trying to find love,
(07:12):
and that is a real thing. And it was you know,
I went my whole life not knowing how. You know,
I've never been on a reality TV show before. I've
never experienced television, so it was I I went onto
The Bachelor like pretty naive, and you know, I didn't
understand that producers had to make a TV show, whereas
when I was a bachelorette, I was like, okay, like
(07:33):
let's make some good TV and let's fall in love.
And that was like the most dangerous combination because I
ended up, you know, hurting so many people's feelings and um,
losing people's trust and constantly disappointing everybody, and then just
ended up being so hard on myself because the thing
that I hate the most in life is disappointing people
I care about, and that's what I felt like. I
(07:53):
just constantly was doing well. People were judging me for it.
But looking back now, I mean, it's been so many
years is that I would have said, like, it was hell.
It was really honestly hell for me to go through that,
But I would do it all over again. And I
just think, like, it's like you said earlier, It's gotten
me so many opportunities and I feel like I'm just
able to live the life that I'm like, I love
(08:17):
doing podcasting, I love having a wine label, and I
wouldn't have had that without the show. So um years later,
I'm able to look back at it with like, see
the positives. Yeah, yeah, for sure, I know, but I
feel like, also, that's not really your fault. You did
have like literally you had to date all the different guys,
So I mean that's the format of the show. I
had fun for the first Yeah, it was fun for
(08:39):
the first like a few weeks, because you know, you've
got a bunch of good looking dudes and they're all like,
oh my god, Caitlin, and they put you on the pedestal.
And then after a while you're like, oh, ship, this
gets really real. Yeah. Then you actually start to like
feel for these people, and like, even if it's not
like in an in love way, you're like, well, I
still care and I don't want to hurt you because
I'm the same way. I like hate disappointing people. I
(08:59):
would I think I've hurt anybody's feelings. I'm like so
messed up over it. I feel so bad, So I
cannot imagine doing that. And then after Bachelorette time has
gone on living life, you end up posting the Double
Bachelorette season, right, Yes, that was Yes? How was that?
(09:21):
It was that weird? And how did that come about?
And then like, not why you because you're amazing, but
did you stay connected with the franchise to that when
obviously Chris Harrison had to leave, Like, I'm just so
curious about how that came about. I still am kind
of curious about how that all played out, because I
keep thinking, like, how did I get Like what turn
did I take in life that I was, you know,
(09:43):
taking over a role that was such an important role
and some and one that had been you know, the
role that has been filled for so long by the
same consistent person who was so good at his job
and everyone knew he was the face of the franchise.
And so it was interesting because I did keep in
test with so many people from you know, the show
(10:05):
producers or certain people I had like bad blood with
because I felt manipulated. Um but you know, we all
after time and healing, you can come around and see
that they were just doing their jobs. But um so
I kept to touch with certain people and then I
kind of was like I felt like maybe even a
bit blacklisted from the show after for a while because
(10:26):
I was so bitter and I'm a very like honest
person who speaks my mind about everything, and I probably
said a little too much and they were like, well,
don't bite the hand that feeds you, like we'll show
you kind of thing. And so it was a bit
of like shock like butting heads for a little while
after that. But I think after, you know, after I
broke up with my past relationship from the show, I
realized how much of a platform that was for me
(10:49):
to live a life that I wanted to live and
then kind of got back in the good books. And
I was so shocked because when they called me to
do that, I was like, is it a hosting role?
And are like, we're not really sure what it's gonna
look like, like they're kind of trying to figure it
out as time goes on, too, so they were like,
it's kind of like a mentor role, ummun Tasia would
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kind of go in and, you know, help with the
bachelorette and talk her through some things that only a
handful of people that could do, you know, women having
conversations that they couldn't have with Chris Harrison. But it's
more of a mentor role, not um not host. And
then we got there and we were doing the show
and I'm like, well, this is definitely hosting, Like we're
doing the final here's the final rows and going in
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for the certain parts and like tinking the glass to
be like okay giving out there. So then the next season,
I was like, Okay, we're hosting. So then I got
it in my head that like we could potentially be
hosts of the show, and I thought it made so
much sense because if I had a woman that was
helping me there, that had been in my shoes before,
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that would have well, I mean, it might have changed everything.
So it wasn't a good idea, but I feel like
it just would helped mentally so much more to have
someone empower you and validate your insecurities and everything that
you're going through. So um, I just kind of had
now put my head in the space of like, oh,
maybe I could potentially host this, So it was a
little sad when they didn't go with us again and Bachelorette,
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but I get having a consistent host and but yeah,
I agree with the heck um no, but that's amazing.
You guys did a really great job on that. I'll
stop about The Bachelor now because you have so many
other things, just super fan. We obviously both did Dancing
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with the Stars. You won Dancing with the Stars, which
is so exciting and I feel like a lot of
people unless you've been on the show. And I was
talking about this recently with some buddy who was at
a dinner with me and we had like started talking
randomly and she was like, I had a Dancing with
the Stars and like randomly came up, and I was like,
people don't understand how tiring that show is and how
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much work goes into it and you want it. It
is literally the definition of blood, sweat and tears. Like
you put everything into it mentally, physically, emotionally. It's so
draining and so much work and so many hours of
your day. Like people really don't know until there unless
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they've been on the show, Like how much work you
put into it, and I just remember, like in the
last three weeks of it, I was like, send me home,
I can't do this anymore. But you know, I'm I
would be like with then I'd get on the dance
floor and be like, I can't go home. But like
my ribs were injured, my ankle was injured. I was
just like in pain the whole time. And I just
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like had that mentality of like you just gotta get
to another day and then the next decade, and you
just got to get through another day. But yeah, and
you did so great on the show. You were one
of our favorites. You're so sweet. Thank you. I was
so nervous because I've never danced before, so I was like,
I don't know if this show, if this could be,
this could do the exact opposite. I want people to
like see my personality, but like what if I had
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just come across and it's so embarrassing and I can't dance.
But I honestly had so much fun doing it that
I like made it worth it. But you know what's
funny too, I remember, like you know how they make
you do those interviews after like every probably twice a week,
or something where you go in and then you sit
there for hours and then you leave and then you
go back to practice or whatever it was. I missed
one of them one time, my agents calling me like
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where are you. They're all like they have to leave whatever,
and I just remember like sobbing on my bed. I
was so stressed. I was like, no, I can't do it,
like I'm tired, and it's brutal. It really is. It
really is a brutal process that's obviously like you get
so much out of it, and then when it's just
finished and then you go home, you're like, it was
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such a whirlwind and it changes your whole life in perspective,
and you like feel like you've accomplished so much, and
then it just ends so abruptly and then you're like
what just happened? And then literally would would never do
something like that again. But then you miss you know,
your partner and everybody around and the Monday nights it's
so far you partners with again Artom Artom right, he's
so lovely. And then when you when you were going
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on tour, where you like hesitant at all or was
it just like I'm down zero hesitation? I because because
of my passion for dance my whole life. I was like,
if you told me I was going to tour on
a tour bus, dancing with professionals, like in different cities
on a bus, I was like, this is a dream
come true. So um yeah, zero hesitation. I was like,
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sign me up, I'll do the whole tour. How was
the tour because you got to be with like 'm
On and Amanda and some people from my season who
I adore. Also, how funny is them? On? He is
He's one of my favorite people I've ever come across
my whole life. Here just the happiest, funniest, most chill,
laid back, coolest, Like I just we ended up bonding
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so much because we were always backstage, like not in
all of the dances, so we would learn the choreography
together backstage and like do hilarious versions of the show.
But yeah, it was so fun being on tour. I
truly thought it would be way harder than it was.
I thought, you know, being away, um on a bus,
sleeping on a bus every night, trying to podcast and
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run my business as while being on the road. Like
it was hard. Of course, don't get me wrong, but
I loved every second of it so much because I
got along so well with everybody and there was no
drama and it was just surprisingly like easy and and
fun and we just like bonded. It felt like family.
And um, I missed the bus nights so much, not
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the sleeping part, but like the bonding, game nights, drinking wine,
all those kinds of things. Yeah, I feel like also
with at least with my season, and I'm sure it's
similar to you as well, Like you get so close
with everybody on the show at the time, just because
like everybody feels like they really understand what each one
is going through, and like, I feel so lucky with
the people I had on my season because I'm like
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somewhere like posing age with me, and then some were
just like such great mentors to have around. And then
we had like me Laura, who was like mom figure
to me, and then like a mom who I would
like just hang with most of my time. And then
I had Jokeo, who was like a little sister, adorable,
fun to be around. So you did have a good
season of people. I remember being like, oh, that looks
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like fun, and everybody like what's crazy is it's so competitive,
but everybody's also rooting for each other because you know,
like you said, what you're going through. And so it's
such a unique atmosphere because I'm the most competitive person
going like I need to check myself even in my
relationship sometimes because I'm so competitive. And so for me
it was so interesting because I was like, Wow, I'm
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really like rooting for the people that are up against me.
And it's because you you do. You just understand what
you're going through and it becomes a family. But I
will say our season was so different from any other
one because ours was right like covid D and we
couldn't even hang out with each other, like it was nuts. Yeah,
I think ours we were supposed to not hang out
with one another and they would like try and be strict.
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But I think also by that time it was kind
of like a free for all um, so it kind
of worked out. But when you were on tour, was
it hard being away from obviously like Jason and I
saw you have two dogs. Yes, oh my gosh, they're
right now. It was really hard to be away from them.
But this is not really a good thing. But I
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was prepped for it because of filming back to back
Bachelor at seasons and from being Dancing with the Stars,
Like we were kind of in this mentality that we're like, oh,
we get to miss each other and we'll like you know.
But but that being said, it was actually really hard.
And we're supposed to be planning a wedding and when
I came back, he was gone on a book tour
and we've kind of been like, gosh, we need to
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reconnect because we want to plan this wedding and we
are so disconnected from being apart and being so busy
that now that I mean, he's coming home tonight from
New York and we're like, let's just like sit down
and talk because we have not been able to do that.
So it's also like so hard I feel like in
a relationship too, because it's so much about like spending
that quality time and like keeping the romance alive. Yeah, no,
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that that went out the window for us because we
were just both so busy and then realized how important
that quality time is and and needing to make up
for lost time because when we got back it was like, wait,
like what have you been doing and what's going Like
he would come to you know, a couple of cities.
But it's just it's really hard. Relationships are hard in general,
and when you're doing long distance and both have your
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own careers and trying to plan a wedding, like it's
relationships are so hard totally. And he was a part
of Bachelor franchise as well. Yeah, yes, but he was
on somebody else's season before, Yes, I remember correctly. So
he was on Beca Koufran's season. I remember that, yes,
And it was so funny because of of course I
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had this three and a half year engagement from the show,
and that is pretty like crazy for you know, usually
at that point people will stay together because it's been
three and a half years and usually you know by
that point. But um, so when we broke up, I
was like, never again while I date somebody in the
Bachelor franchise, Like I didn't even want to date anyone
that was like I had anything to do with social
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media or wanted to some normal dude. I was like,
I thought it was so hot if people in Evans.
Instagram was like hot. Um. And then I interviewed him
on my podcast and I was like, ship, he's cute.
That's really connected. Was an interview yeah. Yeah. I went
out to Seattle to visit a friend, um, and I
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was like, who's in Seattle that I could interview from
like bachelor franchise, And there was a couple of people
and Jason was one of them, and so I rented
a studio and he came to the studio and that's
when we met. Was through the podcast. Oh that's so cute,
and you got to be in person, which is nice.
Obviously I was going to say, you did this over
zoom and you knew that's wild pre pandemic when things
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were normal. So that's how you guys met. And then
was it instant like you guys posting and just like
announcing you together? Was it like the secret let's run
around a little bit, figure it out. I'm such an
open book and he's a little bit more on the
secretive side. Um. So that was tricky because I also
was dealing with the outside world thinking I was moving
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on too fast, because they thought I just jumped from
like an engagement with Sean to this relationship with Jason,
when really my relationship with Sean had been struggling for
so long. And then you don't expect, you know, you
find people when you least expect it, and that's definitely
what happened. But we were like kind of just like
got to a point where people would take photos of
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us or see us or we were out and we
were just like, why are we hiding anything? It wasn't
it wasn't like an instant connection when we met, because
I was going through a hard time, Like I was
still sad, wasn't looking um. But he walked out of
the podcast. So I've told the story million times, but
of course you don't know this stuff. Um. He walked
out of my podcast, called his mom and he was like,
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I just met my future wife. And I walked out
of the podcast, and I was like, they need to
make that guy the bachelor. And just like my brain
was not in that, you know, zone to feel anything
towards him. So we just like we kind of work
like I friend zoned him so hard, like he would
be like, gosh, you're such a bro. And I was
just such a brow with him for so long to
the point where we like we talked all the time,
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and then it just kind of turned into what it
what it is. I feel like those are the best
ones too, though, when you actually get to know somebody
slowly without it being like okay, like let's just see
where it happens or whatever it is, like that's it
was nice the best way to do it, at least
in like past relationships I've been in when I'm like,
when I date somebody, like after like a week of
knowing them, I'm like, this is not gonna work. Yeah,
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that's usually like the falling and lust when it just
happens all too fast and then it ends in disaster.
I've been there too for sure. Um, Okay, So wedding plans, yes,
you know not do you want to do it in
l a like destination back home? We want to do
it in Nashville. We don't have a date. We've reached
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out to three different venues and we are trying to
pick a date because that's what you do. That's usually
the next step, and we have a wedding planner. Um.
But again it's just like we are we need to
get back on the same page because we have not
done anything. And it's like, of course that's what people
want to know, and of course we want to have
answers when people ask us how wedding planning is going.
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But it's so hard when we're in the positions that
we're in. Even with the wedding planner, I thought it
would be easy, breezy because we signed a wedding planner
and I thought he would just be like, Okay, do this,
here's this that's gonna go here, You're gonna do this.
But it's so much more than that, and I want, yeah,
that's something, Jason, I need to really sit down. It's
back from New York. Yeah, yeah, that's what we said. Like,
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but that's so funny because we're like, oh, we'll do
it in Mexico. We're you know, in too Loom. It's
such a vibe, or we can like sit down and
you know, do some stuff. No, we were. We had
an itinerary from our friend. It was back to back,
like his birthday, going out doing this, and then I
got back, and then we got back. He goes to
New York and we're like, this is just really make
this happen. I feel like that probably takes so much work.
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And I also feel like it's hard too, because maybe
this is just like stereotypical for me to say, but
I feel like for like women are normally the ones
that are like really trying to plan it, not trying
to plan it, but like maybe I just think we're
more responsible and honor ship and so we'll be like
we're gonna get this done. That's exactly right. But Jason's
that one in the relationship. I'm not a planner, Like
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I'm actually terrible at planning things or just anything, like
I get overwhelmed so easily. But Jason's usually the one
that's a little bit more of the planner. And I
think I kind of relied on that where he was
relying on the wedding planner and then I was relying
on the two of them, and it just got lost. Um.
But yeah, women are usually you know there, we are
multitaskers to the maximum and usually can have all at
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all and know how we want things done. Well. Also,
you're handling like twenty other different things, and I want
to talk about them, so your podcast, can you tell
them a little bit about it and what it's about. Yes,
it's my favorite thing that I mean, no wine is too.
I I love doing a podcast because I just love
connecting with people. And like I always say, you never
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have like a real authentic conversation with people anymore where
there's no phones, where you're just in the zone for
one hour talking about things that are important or feelings
or you know, feeling like you can laugh or cry
or just have this safe place where other people can
relate to. So I started the podcast. Gosh, it's like
five years ago now, I feel like I should look
into that. It's either four years I think it was
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five years ago I started. Oh, so you were kind
of starting like before this was a thing. Yeah, I
remember being like, what is this all about? Like what
is the podcast? I always when I was little wanted
a radio show that was like another secret little dream
of mine, and I'd interview my family and I'd have
this like I'd always love being on a microphone and
asking people questions. And so when podcasting, that's I was like,
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what an interesting time to get into podcasting, Like I
think this is gonna be a thing, And so I
started it. It's called Off the Vine, and um, basically
everyone who knows me knows I just love a glass
of wine. I love socializing with like close friends or
having nice conversation over a glass of wine. I spill
like not not t like it's not gossipy. It's like
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like I'll tell embarrassing stories about anything, like I just
people are like, why do you share so much information?
And I'm like, it's just who I was. Yeah. So
it's basically I'll have guests on anyone from like reality
TV or influencers or UM country music artist. Because I
live in Nashville, I've had a lot of them on
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and we basically just have a glass of wine or
not if it's ten in the morning, I'm not going
to make them drink and have real conversation about like
either hardships or how they got to where they are
in their career and um, like how they've learned lessons
in life from going through heartbreak or you know, and
pretty I mean, of course, promoting whatever they have going on.
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It's usually just forty five minutes to an hour of
just real conversation, and I make my guests always confess
something to me. So usually there's an embarrassing story in there,
a game we play, and it's basically I just like
people walking away from the podcast being like, whoa I
just escaped for forty five minutes and like can't stop smiling,
or like feeling like I like to empower women to
just be so authentic to themselves and go after what
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they want to go after. Yeah, it's so fun. That's
amazing because I feel like, for me, I started my
podcast kind of recently and I'm still like very much
trying to figure it out. Oh, you're doing great, by
the way, Thanks. You're really easy to talk to, so
it's not like challenging, but I also want to know
you're doing great. Yeah. I also want to just like
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get a little bit more comfortable with it, I think still,
because it can be so it can just be like
so awkward, I feel like for me at least, and
then I'm was afraid of saying the wrong thing. Yeah,
you gotta let that go though, because do you mean
to the guest or like able to hear? Well, if
I say the wrong thing to the guests, I'm pretty
quick to clear it up, like it's fine, But I'm
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I'm more afraid of like everything I say getting like
picked up somewhere and then like just one sentence of
what I say is like in the news and then
everybody's like this, girl, you kind of got to surrender
to that. You gotta surrender to that because it's gonna
happen regardless, and that will get more people to listen
to your podcasts, and it sucks. Like there's so many
times where I see a headline from the podcast or
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like somebody's upset with me because from my podcast it's
been a headline and I'm like, I have no control
over that, and if anything like that will make and
and a lot of people do. It sucks because a
lot of people just read headlines or um just see something.
They don't read the full article or listen to the
whole podcast. So you kind of just gotta like brace
yourself because those things will happen. But also you'll like
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connect with so many great people and you'll work out
the kinks and you'll like get your you'll find your
groove where you're just like you're already really and I'm
not just saying this, Like you're natural at asking questions
and like transitioning into the next one. So I feel
like you're going to be good. Thank you so much.
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Speaking of transitioning wine company, I'm obsessed with wine as well.
How did you start that? Oh my gosh, well, what
kind of wine do you drink? Red one? I mean,
I like all wine, like if I'm in the day
or like buy a pool or something I'm probably gonna
have like white wine or rose, but at night I
probably am going to be drinking red. That's the exact same.
It's a glass of tequila, same tequila and wine or
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like my jam that I'm a little tequila doubt from Mexico,
but not really but not really give yourself like forty
eight hours you'll be back. Yeah, the wine was actually
way harder than I thought. It was good because I
think from coming off the show and getting opportunities or
brand deals, like some of them will just you know,
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come to you and they'll you know, you don't have
to prove yourself. You just put your name on something
and hopefully you believe in it. I'm very I've turned
down so much money and I hate saying that out
loud because it sounds so stupid and cocky, but I've
turned down so much money just to like align myself
with the right products or things that I actually believe in.
And so from doing that, I was like, gosh, it
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makes so much sense for me to start my own
wine label. I don't want to slap my name on
somebody else's wine, and like, I want to put in
the work and I want it to be mine, and
I thought it would be easier, but um, I luckily
have a really incredible team. I have two business partners
that have really helped with like the logistics of things. Um,
but I got to go out to Napa. I got
to try so many different wines and create the one
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I want, like different percentages of like a cab franc
or like a cab. I actually got to like measure
and put in and make my own what I love
to drink. And so that was a really fun process,
even though I didn't use the spit bucket and I
got way too drunk the first night and yeah, I
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was like so hammered, and I was like I love it,
this is the wine. And then the next day we
got all excited we opened it to have it with dinner,
and I was like, this is disgusting. I was just
like wasted and thought anything at that point would have
been like yeah, yeah, So I had to start all over.
But yeah, it's really hard because in this in that industry,
you do have to prove yourself, especially as a it's
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a very like it's a man's world. The wine industry.
I don't know. The alcohol business is just it it is,
and there you said there's like a slogan in the
wine world that like, um, make the make the wine
for men and the women will follow something like that,
And I was like you, and so I wanted to like, yeah, exactly.
I wanted to just flip that on its head and
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come up with us like boss ass, like feminine and
wine brand that you know, guys will enjoy drinking, women
will enjoy drinking. Anyone can enjoy it. And but like
without the rules, like I don't care if you pair
it with you know, filet or whatever, like pair it
with chips, I don't care. I just wanted to be
like not snobby and really fun. And um, I had
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to really prove myself in the industry because there's been
a lot of celebrity wines quote unquote um that have
not worked. So I've worked really hard at it and
it's I love it. It's actually the wine I like
choose to drink at night. It's not just like like
that's amazing, y. Yeah, yeah, I'll have to send you something. Yes,
I would love somewhere is it being sold so you
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can get it at Spade and Sparrows dot com. Um,
there's a lot of like in California, it's in over
a hundred seventy five walmarts. Yeah, we're working really hard
to get it in targets right now. Some states has
it in retail. Um, A lot of places in Canada
have it in retail. But overall, um, you can buy
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it online, which is it's It's tough because online obviously
you have to pay for shipping. So I always encourage people.
I'm like, don't just buy one bottle. Are you're gonna
pay the same amount of you know, for the shipping
that it is for one bottle. You buy six bottles,
only gets better and then you only pay the twenty
dollars for shipping. Yeah, there you go. That's actually that
makes perfect logic. Um true or false? If your wine
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label gets into Target, is it true that you're going
to get a Target tattoo? True? How could they say no?
I will literally be a walking brand of Target. I
like the red dot on the forehead. I mean maybe
not so much. I'm so spontaneous with stuff like this,
Like I just went today. It's actually hurting so bad.
I just sar this pierced right here. See, Like I'm
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I really want more piercings because all mine on my
ears closed up. But I'm like, oh, like the sleeping
on my head and I sleep like this, Okay, see
I sleep on my side and I can't do it
any other way. And I think, also, that's not great
for you anyway. But I that's like why I'm hesitant
to get piercings, because I think about my sleep. That's
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fair enough. Nobody likes their sleep, Like Caitlin Bristo, I
love sleep. It like it's I need nine hours to
function to my day. But I'm very like, I'm just
spontaneous with tattoos, Like do you have tattoos? Yeah, I've
got a spade and then I've got sparrows in the
back of my arm. Cute. So it all aligns with
like what you're passionate about and your business names and
stuff like that. Yeah, yeah, there's always a story behind everything.
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And then I have like tear drops. Look at this
tear drops, So I go, oh, that's so cute. I
just have a bunch of random tattoos everywhere. And like
in Mexico, not the strip, but the one before I
had too much tequila, I got a diamond tattooed on me.
Like I don't even well then I was like, oh, look,
diamonds are a Girl's best friend. That's the song I
won the Mirrorball to. Okay has meaning, so it all
makes sense. Um, so yeah, with the Target, if my
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wine gets into Target, I was like, I will one
thousand percent get like a dainty little like like Target circle,
like black and white or something like, I'm not going
to do a big red stamp, so no, I would
know if they got it in, I would be so proud.
I'll do anything. Walmart's like, what the hell, why haven't
you got a Walmart tattoo? It's so funny. This is
such a random This is actually has nothing to do
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with wine, but had something to do with Target. I
remember when I was young and my dad had a
clothing line that was in Target. I think like before
Target was really like um like it was like I
was really young, and I remember always walking like through
Target and seeing his name and it's such a bizarre
name that I never really understood. Like I would be like,
it's so weird. My dad's name is like the store, like,
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what's going on? This is so funny? And then like
when I got older, they were like that was what
was your dad's clothing line Masimo what Yeah, but I
never knew that clothing line. His name is Bosomo. I
did not know that. Oh that's crazy and not funny.
But I remember like seeing that and being like, this
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is really bizarre that this name's and target, Like what
are the odds somebody else's name? It's my awesome out
there is that? No idea that's so funny? You found
that bizarre? But weren't like my mom is on full House,
Like wasn't that a crazy thing? I also didn't understand that. Well,
I feel like my mom always really like I still
have no idea how Full House was a big show
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or not. I'm so confused. Yeah, because well I kind
of know now a little bit. But it was just
because when Fuller House came out, Um, I was on YouTube.
I had like started my YouTube channel, and I was
like really into like I knew like all the little
behind the scenes of like how many views and how
quick views are and if it's up for two hours
and it has over two views, that's like really great
or whatever it was. And so when the Fuller House
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trailer came out, I was older, um, and I saw
how many views it was getting and I like remember
going into my mom's room and being like it was
full house of big show, Like why does this have
like over like fourteen million views in a day, Like
I don't understand. Oh my gosh, I loved just your
mom was. I would have been like I and Antie
bet she was my life, like my growing up every
day that that was my favorite show ever. And I
(37:00):
still watch it just to like feel like nostalgic. Yeah,
like I I've seen a few episodes as I've grown
up a little bit. I remember when I was young,
I was like, I don't want to watch my mom
kissed John Stamos, which is just so dumb amazing. So
I was like really weird about it. But I feel
like she, I feel like she genuinely believes like it
was like not not that crazy of a show because
(37:21):
she or she's just like extremely humble. I have no
idea she must be, because that was like, if you
asked me, that was like the biggest show that was
everyone watched full House, and it was like back when
everyone watched cable, like nobody was on YouTube or neflicks
or anything like. That was the show for sure. Oh yeah,
(37:42):
way back in the day. But yeah, that's why I
dyed my hair red. I love to see you and
it makes sense. I was like, I have no idea.
I've never died my hair before, and if I'm going
to change the color, maybe I'll change it to like
somebody in my family that had similar hair when they
were my age. It makes sense. Um, I'm not going
to keep you for too long and take up all
your time, but even though I can literally talk to
(38:03):
you for hours, But what's upcoming? Anything you have next?
Um plan that you want to share? Um? I always
dropped new edits for my hair accessory line, so it's
called do edit D E W E D I T
and that's on Instagram, and we do so many fun drops.
So we do usually one in like spring, summer, fall, winter,
and we just did a Bachelor at party one where
(38:24):
it's like all neon and we did veils and like
really fun Bachelor at party stuff. And then the next
one I'm not even allowed. I don't know if I'm
allowed to say it, but whatever, Um, it's gonna be
like a full Bridle edit. So um, I usually just
do fun things that I have going on, and then
like we're going to do a pride one, and we
just are always doing something new with it, which is
so much fun. And then truly, I just I want
(38:47):
everyone to be in my wine club because you can.
So you can be in the wine club and get
a certain amount of bottles and you end up getting
free shipping if you're in the wine club. I'll join
your wine club, do I just find on mine. I'm
sending you the wine, um, but you should be our
guests on the next wine club. We do zoom parties
all the time, like every three months, and people come
in and if they you know, are in the wine club,
(39:09):
they get to come hang out and do zooms and
we make either cocktails or we have a special guest
on and some so fun. So yeah, I hope to
just you know, do that and hope wedding planning is
gonna next time I talk to you. Hopefully I have
way more to say than that. Exactly. Well, thank you
so much for coming on. You're a gem and you're
doing so much and I know like people listening are
(39:29):
going to feel really inspired by this, because I feel
like sometimes as a woman, it's overwhelming and it's scary
to put yourself in so many different fields and You're
just a perfect example of doing it and crushing it.
So my favorite motto is do it scared. You can
want to do anything and be scared, but like, do
it scared. So what if you're scared? So what if
you also if it doesn't work, Just do it scared.
And thank you so much for having me on. You
(39:51):
are also a gem and I thought maybe you had
this podcast for a while because you're doing really great.
Thank you so much. You're the best. Enjoy the rest
of your day having me you tears my baby m
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