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April 11, 2022 32 mins

Who doesn't want to feel good, be healthy and live longer and better??

Everyone does! And that’s our focus this week.

Olivia is joined by fitness expert, Katie Austin and they’re giving you the advice and tools you need to make it happen.

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
This is Conversationous with Olivia Jade in My Heart Radio podcast.
Hello everybody, welcome back to another episode of Conversations with
Olivia Jade. I am really stoked for today's guest, and
she's actually a longtime friend when I had my app.
I had an app when I was like, I think
fifteen or sixteen, and we did a video way back

(00:24):
in the day. Her name is Katie Austin. She's an
amazing fitness and health connoisseur, influencer, and um, I'm just
really excited to have her on to give us some
insight on all things health and wellness. So please welcome
Katie Austin. Hi, Katie, Hello, thank you so much for

(00:49):
coming on my podcast. I'm so excited. I was just
when I was introwing you, I was like, so when
I was like fifteen or sixteen, I had an app
and Katie and I phoned the video. Do you remember that?
I remember that. You're actually unlocking a memory for me
right now, because I didn't remember it before. You just
said that, like, I actually don't remember, and now I do.
It was so funny you came to my apartment. Yeah,

(01:12):
that was your old place college. I know. I just
grated from college and you came over and we cleared
out the living room and we shot like how many
workout videos. I don't know, but I remember I was
super young and I had no idea what I was doing.
Like I never worked out. I was probably what fourteen
or fifteen? You were so young? Oh my god, so

(01:34):
crazy crazy. So we go way back. But for those
um listening that don't know who you are, can you
give like a little intro as to who you are
and what you do? Yes? So long story short. Um,
I am from Virginia. I went to USC and then
after college, I became a sports broadcaster at Fox Sports West.
Then um, the last like I would say three ish years,

(01:57):
I've been really focusing on my fitness brand and being
like more like a fitness personality and doing you know
more in homeworkouts especially that ramped everything up too. So
I have my own app. It's called the Katie Austin App.
I have over a hundred and seventy workout classes there.
I have my own show called Austin a f I
have my own um snapchat show too. It's a cooking show.

(02:17):
So I do like I show like different recipes of
the week, and then I just became a Sports Illustrated
swimsuit model. So the issue comes out in a month.
I think, I don't know if I'm lat today, but
it comes up. I'm really excited. Oh my god, I'm
so proud of you. That's huge. Thank you. It's been
a really really long process and it's like so kind
of crazy to say, and I guess I'll officially be

(02:40):
a rookie when it comes out. I already shot in
Europe and in Montenegro, which was crazy. It's been the
longest journey ever to get to be an s I.
I had to audition. I first audition in two thousand
seventeen and then I don't remember seeing this, yeah, and
then in two thousand and twenty, I auditioned again and
it was a year and a half process and then

(03:02):
I ended up winning, and so I am going to
be in the magazine, which is crazy. That's insane. What's
that process? Like? Did you? Did you do? They just
host auditions and you go somewhere and then so basically
they opened up to the public. Anyone online can join
if you like. That's the whole reason for swim Search.
They opened it up to you know, everyone who doesn't
have an agent, So for someone like me who is

(03:23):
not a real model in quotes per se. So I
auditioned online. I turned in my tape, I posted on Instagram,
and then about six months later, I got a call
back and there was twenty two thousand girls auditioning and
I got a call back. I think it was like
two girls, and then it narrowed it down to thirteen
girls and then um, yeah, it was a year and
a half process and then I ended up winning it.

(03:45):
And it's just been really wild, a lot of different
like little things here and there, like little milestones of
the year and a half, like I shot in Atlantic
City and then I walked in Sports Illustrat and swim
Suit runway show for Miami Swim Weeks, and then yeah,
I just kept doing like social stuff and yeah, it's crazy. Still,

(04:05):
that's incredible. Congratulations, that's huge. I can't wait to see
the photos. I haven't even seen them. They haven't sent
you any No, I mean, I got one debut photo.
But when I opened the magazine along with the rest
of the public, is when I will find out what photos.
Oh my god, they're gonna look amazing. So you've been
into fitness obviously for a while because you grew up

(04:27):
around it. Yes, So do you want to talk about
that a little bit? Yeah, I would love to. So
I grew up honestly in the fitness industry. It sounds crazy,
but since I was six weeks old, or you could
even say like in the womb, because I was in
my mom's pregnancy videos and so she was doing workout
videos with me in her belly. So literally, I've been
in the fitness industry forever. At my first workout video

(04:49):
when I was like actually learning a choreograph routine was
when I was seven years old. I had to go
through like so much practice to learn workouts, and so
I've really been in the industry for a while because
my mom Denny s Austin. But a lot of people
listening to us right now will probably not know who
she is because she is a lot longer than us
because we were so young. She was like in the
eighties and nineties with like Jane Fonda, um and so

(05:10):
basically she had her own show on ESPN for eleven years,
Lifetime for about fifteen years, and um, so she has
like the record for like most workout vhs is sold
which is not possible these days. Obviously no one's gonna
buy a VHS. So yeah, I'm in the industry for
a while, but I never really thought about it as
a career because it's just I don't know, you just

(05:31):
don't really think about it all. So you're like you're
younger and stuff, and I don't really know how it
happened in the fitness industry. And so I graduated college
and thank goodness, like social media was a thing when
I was graduating, and that's how I really got started.
Did you go to school for fitness or did you
just grow up around it? And then that's kind of
like self taught. So honestly, I don't I didn't get

(05:54):
a actual like degree in college for fitness. I emphasized
in health, but I am a certified group first personal
trainer and stuff. And I also have you know, like
my health degree um in a in a separate thing.
But at the same time, like I went to USC
for broadcast journalism and because I was athlete there. I
was an athlete my entire life and it was just
like very instilled in me from a young age. My

(06:15):
dad's a professional athlete, my mom is, you know, a
fitness guru. My sister was never one of the nation
for lacrosse, so we just come from a very athletic background. Yeah,
so honestly, guys are built different. Being an athlete my
whole entire life, you know, it was like I always
had a coach training me and like really putting me
through workouts, and my mom, obviously, um, you know, taught

(06:37):
me everything I need to know about teaching workouts. And
so when I graduated and I stopped playing lacrosse, it
was like a really weird thing for me to not
work out with the coach anymore. And I really struggled, like,
what the hell do I do in the gym? How
do I work out at home? I don't really feel
comfortable going to the gym because I always had a
set routine of like my coach telling you what to do.
And so I decided, like other girls will probably feel

(06:59):
the exact same way eight and so I just started
creating workouts that and thank god, I've gotten better at them,
because if you go back to like two thousands fifteen,
and I'm prob, I'm sure I'm just on my app
I don't know, I don't know. I think they're gone like,
I don't know what happened to that app. I don't
know what company that was with. I don't remember anything
about it, but I do remember doing some workout videos

(07:20):
with you in your apartment and it was really fun.
Um did you ever feel like because for me personally,
it took me a while to get to a point
which I feel like I just got to recently where
it's like, oh my dog, Um, I just started to
like enjoy working out where it's not a chore anymore.
And anytime I talked to my sister, she's like, I
don't like working out because I have such a negative

(07:41):
relationship with it because I correlated with losing weight and
feeling like I'm not good enough and just anything in
that realm. And I kind of want to just like
hear your advice to maybe somebody listening that like what
was that mental switch or if you even ever had that,
or maybe you did an you always loved it extremely
relatable and for someone like me coming from an athlete,
I actually didn't work out after I moved on from lacrosse.

(08:04):
I didn't work out for like ten months because I
was like, and I know this word sounds very extreme,
but it is really extreme. When you've been in a
Division one sport and it's like every day at five am,
it's traumatizing. I would work out till I threw up,
and honestly, that's not good for anyone's body. I'd work
out for four hours a day, and that was my
entire life. Like middle school, I had run tests and

(08:25):
lift test and I would max out lifting, and so
I had a very bad relationship with working out because
it was always training way too hard and so intimidating.
I would be an anxiety ball because I hated working
out so much. And so once you find out that
working out isn't about losing weight unless you want it
to be, or working out isn't about training your absolute hardest,
it doesn't need to be so intimidating. It's really just

(08:46):
to make you feel you're like your best self, and
also it's to boost your confidence. It's for your heart health.
You know, going on a thirty minute walk is working out.
Doing a five minute at routine is working out. You
don't need to work out for an hour every day
a and max out lifting and push yourself to extreme limits.
You know, some people aren't really built like that, and
that is totally okay. It's all about working out for

(09:08):
how you feel on the inside and not really working
out to, you know, for the aesthetic or for training
for something unless you are and to switch that mindset
takes a lot of time. So give yourself place, because
it took me years to get out of the you know,
the traumatized state, and I still to this day can't
go to Barry's boot camp because it still reminds me
of my practices and I'm like, hell no, not for me,

(09:31):
because I don't really I don't really respond well. And
I know I'm a trainer myself, but I don't really
respond well to being yelled at to push myself to
absolute extremes throwing up, and I don't think anyone should
if you're not really training for something. So um, it's
just about switching the mindset to having fun. And I
know that sounds so cliche, but it's true. It is true.

(09:52):
I feel like that is like the most important thing
when you're working out or when you're trying to get
into like a good routine, because I think always, at
least for me, it's kind of hard to start, but
once you're in it, you really do mentally feel so
much better that it kind of becomes like an addiction
where even it's like I don't push myself in the
gym for over an hour, like I go when I
walk on the trail for thirty minutes and I leave,
and I'm like, and that's like perfect, and that's great,

(10:15):
and you actually, yeah, you brought up a really good
point of like once you start, and I think that's
the hardest thing is just starting. And so for me,
I always lie to myself and I say, Okay, I'm
just gonna do this for like five minutes, for ten minutes,
and I lied to myself to get me motivated to
just start. And then once you're five ten minutes, and
you're just gonna keep going because you realize that you're
getting so much more positive, you're getting more energetic, you're

(10:35):
feeling more confident, and you feel really good about doing it.
So just not pushing yourself to places that you feel
so intimidated by it right Sadly, these days, social media

(11:00):
effects body confidence crazy amounts um. Is this something that
you've ever faced or learned to overcome or do you
have like any special tips or are you still dealing
with it like I am. Yeah. Yeah, I think it's
very normal to especially in your teens in your twenties,
to go through waves of confidence to some days you
feel absolutely amazing some days or just not your best.

(11:22):
And as females, we have a lot of hormones and
mood switches, so that just in turn doesn't help us.
I will say for me, going back to like say
my college days, it was really hard for me, especially
after I graduated, because I had a different muscular body type,
and then once you stop training, it's like, well, why

(11:42):
do I have this? I want to fit in with
like in quote l A girls and they're skinnier, and
you have that like body image issue because you don't
you're not training anymore, and then you're what do you like?
You're just hard to really um understand how your body
is supposed to look and how you're supposed to work
out afterwards, especially after college, and like what to do

(12:03):
and figuring that all out and so to be honest,
that was probably my hardest body image issues, and it
takes a very very long time to figure out what's
right for you and your body. I will say, obviously,
social media is the number one um harmful things you
could do to yourself if you are having body comparison
issues and stop comparing yourself to everyone aligne because it's

(12:25):
first up, just like not real. And unfortunately, sometimes there
are going to be, you know, always prettier girls than you,
skinnier girls, fitter girls than You're smarter, there's always gonna
be someone smarter than you. And my mom always told
me growing up growing up, like there's always gonna be
somebody that's or something that's like better than what you're doing,
or something that's a little bit more skilled, but nobody

(12:45):
is you. That she would always say, like when I'm
literally exactly what I was about to say, and it's
so freaking true, but I will say it takes a
lot a long time. I'm twenty eight now, so it
takes like a long time to really realize that. And
I think that's the beauty of growing up because you
start to a care less about what people think. You
start to really just focus on yourself, and you also
realize that those flaws you're so worried about are so natural,

(13:08):
like cellulite for example, or like acne on your skin.
It is so normal, It is so okaycent of women
out there habit, and that's like the beauty of the
female body too, and embracing all those things. Again it's
so cliche, but it's so freaking true. It's like cellulite
is one of the reasons we can bear children because
we have enough fat on our body to go through that.
And so it's switching the perspective and realizing how grateful

(13:30):
you are. I think, if you ever do go through
those days, and obviously I do too, it's like switching
the perspective. It's like, get all social media, remind yourself
what is amazing about you and why you're so grateful,
Like anyone would kill to be in your shoes, right,
And I also think that you have to remember guys,
it's like you're seeing everybody's best moments. And I always
talk about this, but take it from somebody like me

(13:52):
who puts out photos of their best moments and of
the angles that look good and bikini photos of like
a certain angle, because I'm like, oh, I look really
cute in that, But if you saw the other ten
photos that are after it, like I look like a
normal human being because I'm not perfectly sat up with
like my stomach sucked in and twisted a certain way.
Like it's so easy to think like, oh my god,

(14:13):
she just looks perfect all the time when it's like, Nope,
that went through severe angles and different types of like
photo shoots, and like you have to remind yourself of that. Yeah,
it's so true. Um. One thing that I love is
you balance fun and health really really well. How important

(14:34):
is balanced for you? And like a typical day in
your life, what does it look like. Yeah, I think
some people might be shocked at how much I balance
my life and indulge. I will say I'm really lucky
in a sense that um genetics also play a really
huge role that I'm able to um eat a lot
of you know, unhealthy foods at the same time while

(14:57):
enjoying my healthy foods. And I think it's all again,
the word balance is so vague, but it's the truth
of how I live my life. And it's like eating.
My mom always said to like eat good eighty percent
of the time and enjoy your treats and indulge twenty
percent of the time, and life is meant to be lived.
I think you can still lose weight if you're trying to.
I think you can still maintain your weight as well

(15:20):
and still be really healthy by living life in moderation.
And so living life in moderation means, you know, still
having those moments where you want to eat chocolate at
night because you freaking can. And if you restrict yourself,
if you don't let yourself eat what you want and
intuitively eat, you're just gonna go to the opposite direction
and start to binge and then feel really filthy about Yeah,

(15:40):
And it's crazy how much it happens, because like, you
just have to learn about you and your body. Like
some people always say, like, oh, try internet, a fascinating
really helps for me. I cannot intermitte it fast because
if I skip breakfast, I am eating ten times more
dessert at night. And so you just learn how your
body works, and that comes with growing up as well
and trying different things out. Um, and once you learned
that if you have a cheeseburger on a Tuesday night,

(16:04):
it's not going to set you back a month or
even a week where you are totally fine. You're human
and to just not be so damn hard on yourself exactly.
And what's really funny actually is you just said the
twenty rule, and that's a question I had written down
for you was going to say, do you believe in that?
Is that something you like live by? Because you know,
people always there's all these different fads and diets and
things that people should and shouldn't do, And that was

(16:26):
a big one. But I think so like the overall
messages moderation. And my mom always told me that growing up.
She's just like, not with food because she doesn't know
anything about fitness and health, but just with like anything
in life, she's like, yeah, everything a moderation, right, I
mean a twenties a little strict. I would say, like
what if one week you're like fifty or sixty, just

(16:46):
know that you're human and it's not like a strict rule.
I don't really believe in really strict rules or guidelines
or anything like that. I just think, you know, eating
what makes you feel good, and looking at food is fuel,
and not looking at is anything like, okay, so this
has how many calories in this? Right here? It's looking
at it and like, how will this feed and fuel

(17:07):
my body? What nutrients is in this right now that
it's going to either energize me or exhaust me or
what's good for me in this? And looking at it
that way and like the antioxidants the vitamins in it,
instead of like looking at it being like, okay, so
that's thirty grams of carbs. Because also carbs are really
good for you. Um, that is so weird. You just
said that. You took the way I was gonna say.
Can we please talk about carbs and how they aren't scary?

(17:30):
They're not scary. I have a toast. They're good. Especially
if you work out, you need carbs. I have a
piece of sour dough toast every single day. If you're
gonna eat bread, I say, eat sour dough bread. I
actually literally just had a piece of toast like ten
minutes before this. You and I need it to Carbs
are the one thing that like a leave me feeling

(17:50):
very energized, um and be full for longer. At the
same time, it's a fiber, and carbs really helped me
feel full for longer. Whenever I go with like just
having salad in a meal, I'm like, Okay, what's my
next meal? Like an hour brier. So don't restrict yourself
because then you're just going to you know, do the
opposite of what you wanted to do. In the end exactly.

(18:11):
I'm so with you on that because people that are
scared of carbs, I'm like, I don't get it, because
if I have a salad, just what you said, I'm
eating snacks on snacks on snacks right after not even
like an hour, like I'm right after into my country,
like which obviously a salad sometimes it's great and I
love it, but like every like if you're so terrified
of it, I feel like it can do the exact
opposite effect of what you're trying to do. And also

(18:33):
like it's if you find healthy ones. Obviously we're not
saying like every day if you're trying to get in
maximum like best shape of your life having pizza and
pasta and like but like rice and bread and all
of that. I feel like people there's such a negative
connotation just because it is a carb when it's like
I eat that literally every day totally. I I fully,
fully agree. And if you are the type of person

(18:55):
who wants to, you know, obviously eat pasta because pasta
is not bad for you whatsoever. But there's always like
little things you can do to make it a little
bit healthier. I'm a huge believer and still eating like
pizza and pasta, but doing little fixes and switches, so
like in your pasta, maybe adding three vegetables or you know,
switching it out for like chippy pasta, So like little

(19:16):
things that you guys can still enjoy your life, but
making sure you're still getting into nutrients. Right, Okay, switching

(19:37):
the topics from carbs and food. I want to get personal.
You just moved in with your boyfriend. I did. Yes, Yes,
how is that? I think this might be the first
time I'm talking about it like on um an interview.
But it's really great because have you ever been in
a relationship where you are scheduling out when you can

(20:00):
see them like constantly. Yeah, and it's not fun. It
kind of takes like the fun and it's like kind
of stressful. It's like, okay, wait, so if we're hanging
out on Tuesday, then I could do something with my
friends on a Wednesday and then you go to town
for a week. It's just like taking all that stress
away of you know, like living together. It's just like
we'll see each other. When we see each other, I
will say, you hang out a lot less than you

(20:21):
think you do. Like he goes to work every day
he travels and stuff, and I do my own thing too,
So it's really just like reduced stress in both of
our lives. We are on the same page about everything.
And also you just get that point to your life
where you know that it's time to move in with someone.
And got to age seven and we were very much

(20:41):
so in love and we bought a house together. And
it's kind of crazy because I feel so old. Um,
I know, but I age. I age so much by
living in this house with him. Because it's like the
other day we're like looking for a lint roller. I'm like,
when did this happen? I was just partying at Warwick Wednesdays.
Don't know what is going on. But so I was

(21:03):
talking to somebody recently. Oh, we were like, oh my god,
they just opened this smoothie shop down the street and
we're like, it does that. We're excited about like a
little random smoothie shop being opened. And we were talking
about a vacuum and we were like me and my
friends and we were like, oh my god, this vacuum
is so good. We're like, this is this adulting. We're
excited over a vacuum? Was going on? Yeah, it's the

(21:25):
little things, and I've truly what's some advice you have
for people that are thinking about moving in with their
significant other, Like anything you've learned from it learned is
space is definitely necessary and doing your own thing. And
what I think about like living together is being so
independent by still like doing your own thing and not

(21:47):
fully basing your life off of someone else, because it's
i mean, obviously when you're in love with someone too,
you want to be with them, but also remember like
your friends, your best friends are You're really really important
to your family, your career, So like still doing things
that make you you and not coming fully dependent on

(22:07):
the person um. And something also to like if you
want to watch a different show, watch a different show,
like do your own thing, go to that earlier if
you want to. You don't have to do everything that
your partner does. And that took a few months because
we're just so excited to live together. And then I
literally was like I want to go up and nine.
He's like, well I want to go up to ten.
I'm like, what the hell am I doing? Go upstairs,

(22:29):
go to sleep, right. It takes a little while to
learn that, but still being independent is really important. Yeah,
I feel like my thing. If I were to live
with somebody like a significant other, the only thing I
think that would really get on my nerves is if
they were like really messy. Because when I lived with
my sister, she is so messy and she would disagree
with me, but I'm just gonna say she was the

(22:50):
messy one and I could not stand it. So props
two couples that and I'm talking about my sister who's
my blood, and I would be so annoyed to like,
props to couples that lived together one's a mess because
that's one thing I could not it's me. It's at least. Yeah,
So my boyfriend is so clean to the point where
I don't know how he does it. He's like very

(23:11):
very cleanly, and I'm the messy one and he keeps
me in check. Like that's our I think that's our
main problem. I'm messy. That's honestly good though, for you,
because like, at least it doesn't bother you. You You don't
know it bothers me that he bothers me to clean,
And I'm like, yeah, I probably should, I probably should. No,
I get it, but yeah, you'll figure it out as
time goes on what's next for you, like career goals,

(23:35):
dreams obviously of Sports Illustrated coming out, which is crazy
and huge, and do you have anything else that's like
bucket list, So I would say Sports Illustrators at the
top of the list right now, just in terms of
like a career milestone, and it's like really cool to
finally be a part of the family in the community
and like going to Sports Illustrators MS to launch and
like being a part of all the day like the

(23:57):
rookie debut which is really crazy. Um, kind of just
celebrating little by little, like where I've come, how far
I've come. Because I'm always the type of person to
you know, my entire twenties, I basically would be like,
what's next, What's next? How can I get further? Like
I'm not doing enough, I'm not working hard enough. I
need to do this as this And to be honest,

(24:18):
I'm finally at a place where I'm like, hey, you
can chill out. You don't need to always think about
like the next thing. You can be proud of yourself
and celebrate the small winds and the milestones and look
back how far you've come. Like my one year old
self would be so proud of where I am today,
So taking a little flower of being patient. But also
I love that starting um season two of my show

(24:40):
Austin a f soon And honestly I really love Snapchat.
Continuing on Snapchat, is I lost my Snapchat um obsession? Oh?
I still like Snapchat my friends like privately, but I
don't ever like I forgot. I think I still have
a public Snapchat, but I don't know how to use
it just basically repost everything that you do on Instagram

(25:04):
to Snapchat. Do people still use Snapchat to you get views?
On Snapchat? I get about nine million impressions a day.
So that's why I love Snapchat so much. It's it's
like my child baby. And also there's so much money
in Snapchat that people don't really understand. This is like
my hidden secret because everyone's focusing on TikTok right, Like

(25:24):
literally every creator is like, how can I grow on TikTok?
And I'm like, you know what, I'm gonna go A
path that I don't think a lot of people know about.
Is Snapchat has the same type of like you know,
algorithm where new creators can be found. My friend post
on Snapchat for the first time she got on exploring,
she got two k views in a day for the
first time ever. Because less creators are using it, so

(25:47):
you always want to use a platform that less creators
but the same amount of users. So you're still on
Snapchat because you like to do it with your friends,
but you're not a create If you're not creating anymore,
you're not a creator. So there's still don't same amount
of users, but less create leaders. So if your creator
out there, I highly suggested that's really really smart. Catch
me posting all over Snapchat again, see on my pom

(26:10):
on notre page, my spore page. But literally, I'm gonna
have no idea what I'm doing, but I'm just gonna
be trying it for whatever. But I love what you
said about being patient because I really resonate with that,
especially right now. I feel like I've put so much
pressure on myself, and I think so many young girls
and boys as well that maybe follow us or here

(26:30):
or watch our stuff. That um. Obviously, with social media,
it's so easy to compare yourself, like we were talking
about earlier, but it's so easy to be so hard
on yourself if you feel like you're not doing enough.
And I was taking a drive, like a long drive
by myself yesterday. I literally started talking out loud to
myself and I was like, you're twenty two, Like you
need to stop being so hard on yourself. You need
to stop feeling like your world is over and that

(26:53):
like everything up and you're never going to get anything back,
and like everything is done. Like you were doing great
and you're you're kind to people, like that's what matters,
and like continue doing that, and just like it's so
hard to, like I think for so many people to
that aren't even in this space but watch people in
this space and want to be a part of it
and feel like so lost. And I just always want

(27:13):
to remind people like we can relate to that to
a certain degree too, because even though we're in this
space that so many people dream of, we're humans and
we're looking at other people that are further along and
I'm like, well, damn, I'm not doing that, you know
what I mean. So true, and I think feeling lost
is a really relatable thing, especially in your twenties, because
you go through so many different life moments and changes.

(27:36):
Your brain essentially changes as well. Your twenties, Your passions change.
Some people might not know their passions or what they
want to do as well. So, um, you know, in
your twenties, your friend could be married. I have three
friends married and pregnant and I'm just in a relationship.
Or you could be single and my best friend is
dirty and single, And so you literally go through so

(27:58):
many different stages of your life, and you also try
to figure out who you, who your friends are still,
what your passionate, what you really want out a career,
and so don't be too hard in yourself because no
one hasn't figured out and if they do, they are
lying and they're lying and it's so Yeah, there's so
much pressure. I feel like also with people coming like around,
I feel like my age demographic is around, like college

(28:21):
kids or people that are just about to graduate, and
that's a really frightening time. Um for you. Did you
know when you were graduating, like this is what I wanted.
I'm gonna like fully indulge in fitness now or were
you like a little like to figure this out? Not
at all? And I think it's absolutely absurd because I
committed to my college and they were pressuring me at
age fifteen. How the heck, are you supposed to know

(28:43):
what to do an age fifteen? Even people who are
going to college at age eight teen, you don't even
know who you are. You are literally so young, you
have an entire life to live, and so taking that
pressure off you is just so important because every single
person in the world is going through it too. And
if you do know exactly what you're going to do
with your life, congratulations, because you are the point zer
zero zero one percent as well, like, how are you

(29:04):
even supposed to know your major of college? Yet? These
colleges make you decide your major, even which is absolutely insane.
And so just to not be too hard on yourself
and everything you do is for a reason. I truly
believe that, like, everything you do will lead you to
somewhere that you need to be. Even if you think, like,
oh my gosh, I did this in the last for
two years and now I am switching my mind, I

(29:26):
don't want to do this anymore. You did whatever that
was that you disliked to find out that you didn't
like it. So finding out what you don't like is
just as important as finding out what you do like.
Like For example, I always relate this back to my dad,
because my dad has like a crazy story. He basically
was a professional tennis player. At age he was like,

(29:46):
I don't want to be in and I don't want
to be a professional athlete. You moore what I'm gonna do.
Went to law school at twenty nine, graduated by like
thirty three. Thirty three. He became a divorce lawyer and
he like hated his life, and then became a criminal
lawyer and he was like thirty eight, and he was
thirty eight years old and still didn't have a passion.
And so after that he decided to get into representing

(30:07):
tennis players, like combining his love for law and his
tennis background. So again, you don't do anything in like
in vain for no reason. And then from there became
a basketball Asian and now he represents at age seventy
years old, he represents the top basketball players in the
entire world. And so I want to just like always
say that because at twenty eight he didn't know what

(30:28):
he was doing. He had just quit his sport that
he was doing his entire life. He graduated from law
school at thirty three. Like it just happens for a reason,
and when it makes me feel Yeah, that makes me
feel so much better. Yeah, you're right, and he always
reminds that to me too, which is so kind to him. Wow,
that makes me feel really good actually, because I'm at

(30:49):
a point in my life right now where I'm low
key in my had just like what am I doing?
Like figure it out? But it's okay, twenty eight. And
also you're gonna look back like I look back. I'm
twenty eight now, and I look back at my toy
two year old self and not that I like feel bad,
but I feel so bad for myself for putting so
much pressure on me. I feel so bad with myself

(31:09):
for rushing things, and I just wish I gave myself
more grace. So if you are younger than twenty five
out there, give yourself grace, I mean yourself slat. Yeah totally.
I want to end it on that note because I
really love that. So thank you so much for coming
on my podcast and spinning out all this wisdom and

(31:29):
great advice. And I know so many young girls and
boys that listen are going to really benefit, so I
appreciate you so much. Thank you, Thank you guys for listening,
and thank Loia for having me on of course, is
there anything else you want to plug, like your show,
your Instagram? Yeah, sure, follow me on Instagram at Katie Austin.
I'm literally at Katie Austin on every platform, And if

(31:50):
you guys want to follow me on Snapchat to go
for it. I do recipes on there. Yeah. Thank you
so much, Katie, Thanks Olivia. All right by most
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