November 24, 2025 • 67 mins
SEASON 4 EPISODE 35: COUNTDOWN WITH KEITH OLBERMANN
A-BLOCK (2:30) SPECIAL COMMENT: Well here's a switcheroo. For the first time in more than a decade, the far right and the far left and everybody in between are in full agreement: NONE OF US knows… what the hell is wrong with Trump.
Trump was so smitten with Mayor-Elect Zohran Mamdani that by Saturday he was DRESSING like Mamdani; a neat black overcoat that fit him – and a red scarf that enveloped his neck – hair, combed with something other than a garden claw. And remember: some far right commentators had almost expected that when Mamdani arrived at the White House he would be greeted by Trump and Tom Homan and hooded ICE gestapo agents who would fabricate some story about Mamdani lying on paperwork, seize him, and expel him. They expected Mamdani to leave the Oval Office in chains; instead, Trump left the Oval Office in love.
AND NOW MARGE GREENE is out, and Laura Loomer is asking 'why bother to vote next year?' and Charles Gasparino is saying the wheels are off the Trump presidency and even the MAGAs think Trump has gone nuts and it's over. It's not - but it's nice to watch them squirm. Plus the Kash Patel/Girlfriend/SWAT team fiasco and even the Ukraine proposal literally written in Russian by Russians has embarrassed them. It's fabulous.
PLUS A NEW THOUGHT ON TRUMP'S INEXPLICABLE MRI. Maybe he really doesn't know what happened. Maybe he has anosognosia, the disease that makes it impossible for you to acknowledge or even remember that you have a disease. Maybe they told him why he got that MRI - and he immediately blocked it out.
B-BLOCK (34:00) YOUR LATEST NUZZI DOOZY NEWS. Yes, the big screaming uh, RECYCLING headline is gross. But it's not the real story. The real story is: Ryan Lizza now claims that for a year, before the election, while she was working for New York Magazine, my ex was doing Catch and Kill operations on RFK's behalf. Very bad news for all involved. And that she told him if anybody ever found out about her and Bob, he'd kill her. She exaggerates, but he doesn't think this was one of those. Plus, Vanity Fair is about to get rid of her. Feel free to skip this update.
C-BLOCK (1:02:00) THE WORST PERSONS IN THE WORLD: Rookie Chicago cop shoots himself in the silver bullets, the Ellisons are willing to fire any CNN anchor Trump doesn't want in exchange for him letting them buy CNN, and Laura Loomer and Catturd are so stupid they fell for the oldest joke in the "Arabic" book.
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Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio. For
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the first time in more than a decade, the far
right and the far left and everybody in between is
in full agreement. None of us knows what the hell
is wrong with Trump, for sometimes when a cult leader
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goes crazy, it actually can be a negative for the cult,
like oh now ish when the cult realizes that while
they usually love it when Trump goes crazy, this time
he's gone crazy for somebody else and crazy against them.
Trump was so smitten with Mayor Elect Zoran Mamdani of
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New York that the disturbingly sincere looking grin on his
face Friday and the tone of sure, call me a
fascist friend in the Oval office was just the start
of it. By Saturday, he was dressing like Mam Donnie,
a neat black overcoat that fit him and a scarf
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that enveloped his neck, and hair combed with something other
than a garden claw, and the overall appearance of somebody who,
for the first time in his life, had actually asked
somebody else for their advice about the overall appearance and
actually listened to the advice. Mom Donnie was somehow so
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appealing to Trump that from Trump's point of view, he
might as well have been I don't know, Jeffrey Epstein.
Remember some far right commentators, not all, to be certain,
but some as close to sanity as say the Newsmax
level of Hell had almost expected that when Mayor elect
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mam Donni arrived at the White House, he would be
greeted by Trump and Tom Homan and hooded ice Gestapo
agents on horseback who would fabricate some story about Mam
Donny lying on paperwork, and they would seize him, and
they would expel him or at least put him in
a prison somewhere. They are still all the way over
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there in a probably chemically induced fantasy, a world cobbled
together from graphic novels and the worst streaming sci fi.
Trump instead thought he was Nito. At the same hour,
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Marjorie Taylor Green was in a fact excommunicated by Trump.
She announced her quote resignation unquote from Congress effective in
January because a she realized Trump would not support her
and therefore the cult would not support her, and she
felt Trump had lost his way and done nothing but
to make America worse. The role of Marjorie Taylor Green
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will now be played by Laura Lumer, and Laura Lumer
was so aghast about Mam Donnie that she asked why
she or any other maga should even bother to vote
in the midterms next year, to which I reply with
a manly supportive hurrah, you go girl. They do not
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know what's wrong with Trump. Trump's malfunctions are usually a delight.
They are their joy, they are their reason debtre Yet
this makes no sense to them. Big strong men coming
up to Zorn Mamdanie and saying, sir, I like your coat.
Where did you get that coat? You mean? They can
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actually make a coat bigger or smaller, so it doesn't
look like it was dropped on you by a company
that makes tents and bouncy houses. The fascists are so confused,
so bereft, that not even the thrill of Trump advocating
for the hanging of the Democratic senators and representatives who
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reminded the military they are obliged to not obey illegal orders,
not even that, not even that warm glow could last.
It's almost as if he never meant it. Where are
the construction cranes with Democrats swinging from the hooks like
the Taliban or the Iranian lunatics to it. The far
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right hates the Taliban and Iran, but they got to
hand it to them. You and I should not forget
the Trump threat. Representative Hulahan didn't forget the Trump threat.
She told Greg Sergeant. She actually filed a threat report
with the Capitol Police. And in the place where he's
supposed to write who threatened you, Hulihan wrote, quote the President.
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She thinks some of her colleagues in that video, whom
Trump then threatened with hanging for sedition, also filed complaints
with the Capitol Police. On Trump and Trump, he just
drifted off. He just drifted off from the whole topic again.
He drifted off metaphorically to the edge of a river.
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It's a wide river, to be certain, there's no indication
that there's any real way over to the other side.
But on the other side of that river there is
a land in which Trump resigns the presidency so he
can join the Zoran Mamdani administration as the ninety seventh
Building Commissioner of the City of New York, and they
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give him an office and legos and blocks and a
big model of Manhattan, and you can move the buildings
all around and shit. They thought Mamdanni would leave the
Oval Office in chains. Instead Trump left the Oval Office
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in love. I am not suggesting for a moment Trump
has been pacified, or he's mellowed, or he's not a
danger to every living thing on this planet every moment
of every day. I am, however, suggesting that between whatever
is wrong with him and now accelerating into an active
stage and this kind of second giddy childhood we saw
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Friday with Mamdanni and a slightly new strategy from some
of his opponents, among all that there has been a
noteworthy change in the vibe. Mamdani obviously played Trump like
a two dollars ban Joe, and the sooner the Democrats
figure out exactly what he did in there, and basically
that was he flattered Trump by telling Trump that he
was often right and insightful and even he's seeming enemies
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like many of Trump's ideas. The sooner the Democrats figure
that out and bottle it, the better for them and
for us. There was also a new strategy offered by
ABC and Disney. He attacked their reporter Mary Bruce during
the Mohammed Bin Salman photo op disaster dressing her down
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when he barely knew who the hell she was, made
her the focus of his hatred of all media, and
at that moment, of ABC, perhaps because they are first alphabetically.
He then went on a series of tirades about Jimmy
Kimmel again, even though the last time he did that
he suffered one of the few, no doubt humiliations of
his presidency of intimidation. ABC and Disney and Bob Eiger
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then tried something new. They ignored all of it. They
made a bland statement defending their news but not Mary
Bruce by name. She took the hit, and their network
and their staate. They defended them, but not Kimmel. Kimmel
then turned it into a joke Trump, I'll go when
you go. Otherwise, ABC ignored Trump, and again Trump moved
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on while his cultists simmered where are the construction cranes?
It can be argued correctly, I think that, of course
ABC ignored Trump this time. Bob Iger had already tried
everything else, Bribing that didn't work, capitulating that didn't work,
Suspending Kimmel that didn't work, defying Trump that didn't work,
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and frankly, Iigers out of ideas. They were just too
tired to actually try anything this time. Well, at least
occasionally apparently that works. I cannot describe to you diving in,
not wearing my best shoes as I have done this,
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diving into the right wing streams. I cannot describe to
you how disoriented this has left his cult. Charles Gasparino,
the Fox Business commentator with the shortest fuse in the world,
watched the Mamdani event and wrote, I really think the
wheels are coming off the Trump presidency. Wow. Countless right
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wingers were appalled when this Moscow composed twenty eight point
plan for Ukrainian victory that merely requires Ukraine to give
up everything turned out to be Moscow composed not just that,
but composed in Russian clumsily translated into English, complete with
backwards Russian conjugation, backwards conjugation. Rusky and then Marco Rubio
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first told some Republican senators that this was not the
Trump plan at all, but the Putin plan written in
Moscow suggested deliver by the Russians. And then he said, no,
he didn't, he didn't say that when he called to
tell these senators that, they say he literally said that,
Oh no, no, no, no, he never did that. He
meant it was a plan that recognized Russian desires. And then,
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and then, and then Marco might as well have paused
for a moment and then run off camera again to
chug a small water bottle of Poland spring or vodka.
Apart from the implications heads Russia winds tails, Oh oops, no,
it's a two headed coin. Tails is also heads Russia wins.
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Apart from the implications, the State Department and the entire
Trump foreign policy and operation looked like idiots, not just
internationally but within MAGA. And just to round it out,
when MAGA thought Trump had finally destroyed Ukraine and this
was final, he has come back with more of a stall,
this appeasement of Putin, who can no longer afford to
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pay his own Russian troops. Trump says that's not his
final answer. Shrug emoji. Meanwhile, while they wanted Trump to
actually hang Mark Kelly or Chrissy Hulahan or the others,
the US military apparently did issue illegal orders last week,
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and a bunch of military contractors went and put up
keep out signs marked National Defense Area three where the
Rio Grande River dumps into the Gulf of Mexico, and
that's hardly like ordering Pete kaboom hegseth to blow up
some mythical Antifa city Oregon. But it did become another
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problem for MAGA when it turned out the signs had
been put up in Mexico, not in the United States.
And once again the entire Trump foreign policy and military
operation looks like idiots. Looks like idiots to MAGA. Could
it get worse? Oh? Why yes, yes it could. Remember
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the outrageous twenty billion dollar bribe to Argentina. Re elect
that FOP president Wolverine or whatever his name is, and
we'll pay your way out of the financial collapse he created.
That's gone. Now scaled it back a little, did we now?
Maybe Trump will pay Malay maybe four billion to help
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him with his debt payment in January. Maybe even the
domestic terrorism thing seems to have petered out. Cash Bettel
is now the subject of more investigations than he is conducting.
The latest The Times report that he sent SWAT teams
to protect his girlfriend the country quote singer unquote, presumably
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to defend her against people who have heard her sing. Meanwhile,
a group of European has built a kind of Wikipedia
of ice raids and tactics and agent identifications. It is
in Europe. So who's Christyinome gonna arrest? The EU will
simply tell her Fu and the horse you rode in
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on Christy. Moreover, the Guardian reports the FBI infiltrated a
signal chat of anti ice organizers in this country, and
nobody in Maga could object to that, except they got caught,
and they had to shut down the infiltration because they
got caught, and worst of all, worse than you can
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possibly imagine, worse from the Maga point of view. Their
dream of dreams sending the military or ICE or Seal
Team six or somebody into New York City to be
the real rain that will come and wash all this
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come off the street. Yes, they're not getting that. No
ice raids in New York, no military in New York. Maga,
you are getting the undiscussed, too terrible to contemplate, but
very real possibility that instead of the trumpest destruction of
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Sin City, you will be getting Trump Attending Zoraan Mamdani
swearing in shortly after midnight on January first, Good to
see you see do you mind. I wore one of
your plain black suits and white shirts and them skinny
black ties. You know that Olberman guy used to dress
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like that. Remember the wheels really are coming off. Charlie
Gasperino better hitch. I keep harping on Trump and Mam
Donnie's appearance, and this is not idle. Yes, Trump is
an endless front run and kiss ass. And he really
did even once write me a fan letter a year
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before he declared me an enemy of the people because
I lived in one of his buildings and he used
to watch me on ESPN. He does that. There's no
such thing as time or consistency. Better still, for Mam Donnie,
Mam Donnie is somebody who literally cannot become what Trump
has become president, So he's no real threat to Trump.
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But there's something else, appearance wise that I noticed last week,
and it's really weird. But I've been thinking a lot
about this, Mam Donnie, Muhammad, Ben Salmon, jd Vance, guys
with beards, beards. Trump defers to guys with beards, full
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prominent beards, big heavy beards. Think about this is not unanimous.
He sure didn't defer to Jack Smith's beard, and it
has to be a big beard. Not the beat Nick
fringe style that President Zelensky favors. Looks good on him.
But once you make a list of big beards that
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Trump defers to, it's kind of hard to unsee it.
Vance Nbs, ma'm Donnie Howard Lutnick Russell, vote, Brad Barscale,
Trump's crazy dead doctor, Harold Bornstein, ma'm donnie owen uh
Beard's Donald Trump Junior. Which brings us back to the
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great MAGA disillusionment. Steve Bannon doesn't have a beard. He's tried,
it didn't work, And right now Steve Bannon has the sads,
and not just because he doesn't have the beards. Late
Saturday night, Bannon reposted a screenshot from somebody calls themselves
Free be Speaker. It is a creed tour. Creed to
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something Kerr means heart, ain't no heart in MAGA, and
this thing, whatever it is, sums it up. Right now
the Trump castle has collapsed and they know it. It is,
in essence, a note to Steve Bannon from freeb Speaker. Steve,
please let President Trump know what he must already know
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that many of US MAGA supporters are heartbroken these days
watching him squander that powerful electoral mandate we gave him.
He won forty nine percent of the vote freeb speaker,
on which he executed so magnificently in the first months
of his term. Those are the golden years, the first
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few months making nice with the vile Mandan. He is
probably understandable at this stage, but don't think many of
us fathom a Ukraine plan that puts the US on
the hook for that corrupt country security and enforcement, a
bizarre congratulatory meeting with the ISIS terrorist dictator of Syria,
an executive order barring every American state from protecting its
own citizens against the worst hours of AI, while he
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enthusiastically promotes AI freedoms and subsidies and cozies up to
big tech CEOs who'll abandoned him in a nanosecond. His
seeming blindness through remaining america destroying immigration flaws like the
H one B VISUS scam you've exposed, and the flood
of Chinese student workers still in the US, all to
such cruel detriment to American workers. This guy's on a
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bridge somewhere, any not to mention the seemingly endless delays
in justice for the worst the Deep State has done
to him and this country, although we cling to remnants
of trust in his overworked, understaffed DOJ. Yeah, overworked traveling
to see cash Betel girlfriend the quote singer unquote, I
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doubt I'm alone after believing in his uniquely heroic intentions
for this country and supporting him since twenty sixteen, struggling
now to understand so much of what he's doing. It's
like I said, now they don't know what he's doing.
Without question, the political and social alternative is certain death
for this country. Yeah, they've been predicting this since twenty fifteen.
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Hasn't even come close to happening yet. But go on,
But how can he expect his average MAGA voter to
stay warmly close to him when he appears to be
pushing him farther and farther out into the cold. And
if he doesn't remain the herculean mainstay of this country's
MAGA reforms, how can the feckless, cowardly GOP expect to
keep hold of Congress narrator? They couldn't. And how can
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we navigate our way through the nasty GOP MAGA infighting?
Now Gurgley to the Service at the same time, we
put not our trust in princes. By the way, that's
a quote from Confederacy President Jefferson Davis. We put not
our trust in princes, but we have trusted that Almighty
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God empowered Donald Trump to do the good, near impossible
things this country needs to survive. Please, Lord continue to
be with him. Well, they embraced Zamba and them zam
DONI didn't that indicate the Lord is doing his miraculous
works through Trump. Ah, that's where they are. They don't
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understand what's happening. It's their turn. May they live the
rest of their lives not understanding what went wrong with Trump?
And sorry about your last point, freeb speaker. The Lord
cannot find Trump right now because Trump is busily trying
to find out if Zorn Mamdani plays golf. Remember a
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couple of episodes back when I asked if it's actually
possible that when Trump said he did not know what
part of his body they had scanned in his MRI
last month, that he wasn't lying that he wasn't not
paying attention. I mean, how could you literally not know
which part the MRI was for. I mean, if you
were unconscious or sedated. Even after that, when they were
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telling you how great your score was on your MRI,
like that's a thing, and how it was the greatest
MRI ever recorded, you'd probably just figure out what party
part it was, even unintentionally, How how how could that
not have? I forgot entirely about anosognosia ironic because basically
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anopsygnosia is sophisticated, medically explained forgetting stuff. I have discussed
this before. What if he doesn't know what the MRI
was for, because whatever it was, he has anosgnosia about it.
In brief, this is the disease that makes it impossible
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for you to recognize that you have a disease or
an injury, or that you've had a stroke, or that
you have, say just to pick one at random, Alzheimer's.
It is a brain injury. It is caused by a
variety of things, often by stroke, but other things cause
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it too. Trump may not have had any idea that
he has some kind of cognitive illness and that they're
testing him for it. And even if somebody around him
had had the courage to tell him, he would a
not believe them, or he would instantly forget that they
had just told him, like if he had an MRI
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of his brain to see if new Alzheimer's drugs are working,
he'd only remember the letter's MRI. The immortal David Dunning
of Dunning Krueger Syndrome once wrote the easiest to digest
example defining anosagnosia quote, an anosognosic patient who is paralyzed
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simply does not know that he is paralyzed. If you
put a pencil in front of them and ask them
to pick up the pencil in front of their left hand,
they won't do it. And you ask them why, and
they'll say, ah, I'm tired, or I don't need a pencil.
And presidents have been studied for this exact behavior before
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presidents and their pencils as latter day experts used new
medical knowledge a few decades ago to study the stroke
that Woodrow Wilson suffered while on his cross country tour
to try to sell the League of Nations to America
over the heads of a disapproving Senate. While all of
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that has been studied and studied and studied, the conclusion
has now become widespread that whether or not he'd had
it earlier after the stroke in nineteen twenty, Wilson showed
all of the signs of anosagnosia. In the nineteen seventies,
the neuropsychiatrist Edwin Weinstein was granted access to Woodrow Wilson's papers,
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and he wrote quote, following his stroke, the outstanding feature
of the president's behavior was his denial of his incapacity.
Denial of illness or ANO literally lack of knowledge of disease,
is a common sequel of the type of brain injury
received by President Woodrow Wilson. In this condition, the patient
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denies or appears unaware of such deficits as paralysis or blindness.
To casual observers, anosygnosiac patients may appear quite normal and
even bright and witty when not on the subject of
their disability. They are quite rational, and tests of their
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intelligence may show no deficit unquote, who in the hell
does that sound like? I don't know why they gave
me an MRI. Unfortunately, when on the subject of his disability,
President Wilson was anything but rational. His Secretary of State,
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Robert Lansing, summoned the cabinet to a meeting to discuss
the crisis in Wilson's illness. And Wilson, or more likely
missus will Wilson forced the Secretary of State Lancing to resign.
Doctors who challenged President Wilson were dismissed. People who knew
Wilson before his stroke were eased out or denied access
to him. Wilson insisted until his death that while he
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had had a stroke, it only affected his walking and
only a little. How the hell could you not know
what they stuck you in the mritube four? Well you
did know, but whatever is wrong with your brain immediately
erased it. Like a dream you try to remember as
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you wake up, and it slips away from you, like
mercury on the floor, or like somebody was closing and
locking a door, keeping your dream away from you. So,
in addition to needing to worry about Trump having had
a stroke or flew into phasia or Alzheimer's or god
knows what, we also have to worry about him having
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an illness that makes it impossible for him to ac
or even remember that he'd had a stroke, or fluent
aphasia or Alzheimer's, or even just the MRI to test
for it. No, the MRI was for my toenails. I
have ingrown toenails and not really bad ones. I got
a great score on my ingrown Toenail MRI and so
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now in some for the first time in his dictatorship,
none of us haters, lovers, supporters, Mam Danny's, none of
us know what the hell is wrong with this guy Trump,
And if he has annosagnosia, he does know what's wrong
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with him. But he just forgot it again, and yet
he remembers he likes Mom Daddy. I can also guess
that he did not read this weekend's worth of Olivia Newsy,
Ryan Lizza, Robert F. Kennedy Junior News, because if he had,
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even Trump would have fired Kennedy by now already today,
because Kennedy is now a clear and present danger to
Trump's presidency, because Kennedy is scandal plagued and sloppy and
nuts and he is in some way involved with a
woman who may be nuttier than he is. If you
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read the updates on my ex over the weekend, I
hope your stomach has settled down. I am not going
to even reference the Kennedy love poetry to Olivia about
his uh, well, what was it? Sterling Hayden called it
in Doctor Strangelove his life essence, Man Drake the purity
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of his life essence. I deny them my life essence.
What I am going to reference, though, is the important part,
which is Ryan Lizz's assertion no evidence yet presented that
Olivia Newsey ran catch and kill operations to barry scandals
about Robert F. Kennedy Junior while she was employed by
New York Magazine for more than a year before the election,
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and Liz's further insistence that Newsy told him that if
anybody found out about her and Kennedy quote, I'm afraid
Bobby will kill me. You can skip this next half
hour update after the break, you can proceed directly to
the C block and Worse Persons. If not, get a
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drink and pull up a chair and join me. It's
the news of Newsy and it's a doozy that's next.
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Still ahead, Worse Persons and Ted Turner's dream used to
be when I worked for him one hundred and fifteen
years ago was to buy CBS News, in fact, buy
all of CBS and merge it into CNN to show
television that in nineteen eighty two cable was already boss.
Now it's Larry Ellison's dreamed by CNN and merge it
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into CBS to show the world that Trump is boss
and decides who's on CNN and who isn't, holding anchors
hostage ahead in Worse Persons, But first postscripts to the news,
some headlines, some updates, some snark, count down podcast, and
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these are the places where there's news. Dateline, the Department
of Health and Human Services, The New York Times with
bad timing Friday night, putting out a story that was
at least a week in the making about Liza Newsy
and RFK Junior and that character who gets killed in
the first scene me and Liza getting up in Newsy's busy.
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And three hours after they posted the article, Ryan Liza
dropped part two of his expose on his ex fiance,
making the Times peace completely outdated and more importantly, turning
this from a grotesque but tremendously entertaining saga of a
disturbed woman I used to live with and the rapidly
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disappearing schmuck she used to live with and serially cheat
on with politicians as old or older than I am
transforming that lighthearted enterprise into something that should eventually put
Robert F. Kennedy Junior in prison, and should more immediately
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precipitate an investigation of New York Magazine. If what Ryan
Liza writes is true, don't worry. There's lots of gossip
gold to review, and I will. And if this is
not your cup of tea, feel free to hit stop
or scoot forward. Worst persons is after the next break.
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But here's the real headline deep in part two of Liza,
which you put behind a paywall. See if you hear
the headline as it goes by quote. I have never
been able to convey Olivia's near total obsession with Bobby properly.
What I can say with authority is that it seeped
into every corner of her life, affected every relationship she had,
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and drove every decision she made in late twenty twenty
three and all of twenty twenty four, including her catch
and kill operations on his behalf, the campaign strategy memos
she wrote him and the other journalistic transgressions that have
still not been disclosed. For me, it was like waking
up and learning she was a heroin addict or had
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joy Way Way Wait wait wait wait wait.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Wait wait.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Say that part again, heroin addict? No no, no, no no.
The part about catch and kill, Oh yeah, drove every
decision she made in late twenty twenty three and all
twenty twenty four, including her catch and kill operations on
his behalf. Catch and kill the way the Weekly World
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Pro Trump News or whatever it was called, used to
buy stories to either use to blackmail on Trump's behalf
or to keep Trump from getting bad publicity during the campaign.
That kind of catch and kill. Olivia did this with
whose money? She did catch and kill operations in twenty
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twenty three, late twenty twenty three, he says, and twenty
twenty four, all of twenty twenty four, he emphasizes. All
of twenty twenty four. She was still employed by New
York Magazine until the story broke in September of twenty
twenty four. That's not good for New York Magazine. They were,
at best an unknowing base of catch and kill operations
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on behalf of Robert F. Kennedy Juniors, presumably still his
presidential campaign. They published an article which in retrospect is
clearly designed to help him and authenticate him. We know
that now just from reading it. You could see it then.
And the other part of this is Ryan Lisen knew
about this. I mean, he doesn't come out and say
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I knew about this, except he does say he did
live with her, and it seeped into every corner of
her life. And and he kept this secret for in
some cases, let's seen late twenty twenty three, it's not
late twenty twenty five, so some of this is two
years old. Ryan, And and you kept this secret as
he ran for president and and and affected some of
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the voting patterns as they developed in the twenty twenty
four election, and then was named to destroy a vaccine
safety in this country and generally put as many crackpot
ideas in an attempt to restore the medical stature of
medieval barbers from the fifteenth century this Ky and you
and you kept it secret so you could charge us
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eight dollars to read about it later. It's not good
for you, Ryan Lizzon. My complaints about him actually have
like are one percent to do with the fact that
that relationship followed my relationship with her. I think that's human.
Ninety nine percent of it either precedes my knowing Olivia Newsy,
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and it's just about how bad and overrated a journalist
he was. And I'm in a perverse way glad to
see that it has been restored that my opinion of
him was correct. No, I know about this terrible situation
in which people are catching and killing bad stories about
Robert F. Kennedy Junior. And I'm not going to tell
anybody till after the election, a year into his role
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as the head of the Department of Health and Human Services,
as he slashes millions of dollars from cancer research that
is in fact going to lead probably to the death
of his fatally ill cousin, the mother of two small children.
And you apparently knew. Here's something else, a little bit
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lighter than that quote. As she left, I said something
that would have enormous ramifications going forward. People are going
to ask me what happen, I told Olivia, and I'm
going to tell the truth. I was faced with a
similar question, by the way, and I said, people are
going to ask me what happened, And I'm not going
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to say shit, and I didn't for nine years. There
have been questions about my commenting at all about this story.
You did not know that I had a relationship with
olbya Newsy let alone that she lived with me from
the time she was I think it's fair to say
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almost like within weeks of her nineteenth birthday was when
she kind of started to move stuff in. She lived
with me from ages nineteen through twenty three. You know
she'd already turned twenty four. Yeah, twenty three. I'm sorry,
I got that number wrong. Nineteen to twenty three and
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I didn't tell anybody anything until the New York Post
called and said, we understand you used to date, at
which point, well, I'm not going to let the New
York Post scoop me on this story. The cat's out
of the bag. I'm not going to let somebody else
have the cat, as it were. And then I didn't
bring myself into the Liza mix. He put me in
his sub stack story. Anyway, people are going to ask
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me what happened I told Olivia, and I'm not gonna
say shit, that's not what Ryan Lizzie says here. People
are going to ask me what happened, Ryan Liza told Olivia,
and I'm going to tell the truth. She seemed paralyzed
with fear, he writes, and frankly, I didn't understand why.
It was only later, when we were deep into what
would become weeks of conversations about every detail of what
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transpired between her and Bobby, who had told her that
he demanded discipline and fearlessness and at times total submission,
that she explained her terrified reaction that August morning. If
anyone ever finds out, Olivia told me quote, I'm afraid
Bobby will kill me unquote. Two things. I'll remind you
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that she told me in probably twenty fourteen, yes, maybe
twenty thirteen, that whenever she would go to Washington, this
guy Ryan Wizza was stalking her. I don't think whatever
he did actually qualified as stalking. She later clearly used
the same term about me to him, and what I
did to her did not come remotely close to stalking.
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So the idea that somehow Bobby Kennedy was going to
kill her seems a little seems a little more consistent
with her oh exaggeration and pitting herself in a physition
in which her guy has to believe that she is
in some sort of serious danger and must rescue her
from this rather than Bobby Kennedy planned to have Olivia
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Newsy killed. But quote, if anyone ever finds out, Olivia
told me, I'm afraid Bobby will kill me, which sets
up part three, which he's hinted at before, in which
he mentioned that there was a plot that he claims
Newsy engaged with to send him to prison with the
help of the Trump administration or with the help then
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of the Trump people. Last year, there was a story
about her going to the FBI and trying to get
Ryan Lizza arrested for accessing her phone. That's not the
story that he tells. He claims he accessed stuff that
fell out of her book bag on the floor. Now
about the Mark Sandford story, quote, Olivia had written a
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tabloid style news story about how sources in Washington, d C.
And Charleston have been buzzing recently about an unexpected romance
Mark Sandford and Olivia Newzy, who was described as one
of the most famous political reporters in America, A blonde
beauty who gained critical acclaim as a skilled profile writer,
gaining access to the powerful and the mysterious, and turning
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it into pure journalistic gold. The Sanford story. When did
she go see him? Did she have a long running
affair with him? Was it one night's stand? Who knows?
He writes about it in detail. It's about as interesting
as my romantic life with her. You don't care, I
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guess I care. I don't care as much as I
cared then In any event, she wrote a fake article
that he found about herself in the third person and
her I mean reading like something out of an eight
year old diary, an eight year old's diary, Olivia told me,
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he goes on. She wrote the fake article as an
exercise to think through what might be the worst that
could be said publicly if the affair became known, though
that didn't really make sense to me given the pieces tone.
You think pure journalistic gold. I'm terrified someone might accuse
me of being beautiful and skilled, the most skilled profile,
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the most famous political reporter in America. Her fantasizing about
what it would be like when her secret relationship with
a notorious politician finally became public would repeat itself during
her affair with Bobby. So he's now setting up again
the third episode, in which in which he reveals that
she wrote something like this about what would happen when
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the Bobby Kennedy story came out again. I took some
criticism for using the neo meme, the neo gif jiff,
the gift jiff meme about what's his name Keanu Reeves
dodging bullets? Oh no, you took plenty of bullets in
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that article. No no, no, no no. I meant in
you know life on my tombstone, you can write avoided
death by Olivia Newsy. Probably one thing I will say
about reading this quote that he puts in here, describing
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herself as a blonde beauty, one of the most famous
political reporters in America, gained critical acclaim as a skilled
profile writer. Did you see online the links via the
wayback machine, the Internet wayback machine to her career as
a pop singer as a teenager under the name Livy
with two v's. I had never seen this, although the
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photograph does look familiar. I think she showed it to
me at one point. I knew she had a singing career.
I didn't know it was pop bubblegum. I certainly didn't
know there was a song called Jailbait, for God's sakes.
But if you go and look at these captures of
what was a MySpace location for her music, and I
know I'm not going to listen to her music. No,
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I'm not going to listen to it, she erased, all
this probably spent money to try to get rid of it.
But what you need to go and see is the
write up about Livy and what a force she was
and the influences that caused this, and how so you
know she had gained critical acclaim as a skilled pop singer,
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gaining access to the powerful and the mysterious and turning
into pure upbeat disco gold or words to that effect.
It's the same writing she was fantasizing about being the
next what was what was the Tiffany? The next Tiffany
when she was fifteen, and she was fantasizing about being
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missus Governor Mark Sandford in twenty twenty one more thing
about Sandford that he writes in a text exchange. I
also asked Olivia if she sent Mark Sandford any pictures
that might embarrass us if they became public. She insisted
that she only sent one inappropriate photo before or after
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you had sex with him. I asked, after, why did
you send it? Honestly because I am, and then Olivia,
as was her, wont drops an F bomb and the
our word because I am fing rd all right, nudes
to Sanford or one nude to Sandford? There's a dispute
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on that which we'll have to go to some sort
of international by maybe the UN can hold a hearing
as to whether or not she sent a nude or
multiple nudes to Mark Sandford. Liza was the one who
would originally let out the story. We believe, we believe
it was him. We don't know who the hell else
it could have been that said that there were nudes
to RFK, but they were tasteful. I can tell you
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she sent me nudes and I said, look, they're great.
You take a great photo. And I am all for
freedom of expression. And you and I belong to different generations,
and I know you don't really have a concept of privacy,
and the photographs, the whole thing and the enginet is
prep But here's what I would do if you really
want to do this. I'm not going to discourage you
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from this. I am a male. There is such a
thing as biology. Here's what you do. Take the photos
and print them out, or buy a polaroid camera and
take the pictures. I understand they're gonna have to be
a little bit better. You can't delete so many, or
you know, buy a little printer for your laptop or
whatever you're using your phone, and then delete everything. Delete, delete, delete, delete.
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The delete button is your friend. I'm all for freedom
of expression. I'm all for modern technology. I'm all for
pictures of you that are salacious. That's great. But this
is this is not appropriate to send to me, and
it's certainly not appropriate to send to me over the internet.
There are ways to do this without without sending me,
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you know, using the internet. Don't do that. They The
most important part about this is I will survive if
you send me nude photographs. I hate to tell you this,
hon but I'm fifty whatever years old. This won't be
the first time anybody sent me a nude phote photograph,
even since when before we had an internet it happened.
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I have survived all this, and I've kept them all
confidential or destroyed them, almost always destroyed them. In fact,
I can't think of an occasion in which I didn't.
But they're sent via the Internet. Guess what I think.
Almost everything on the Internet, even the stuff you delete,
exists somewhere. They will harm you. They will harm you later,
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as I said, I deleted the ones she sent as
they came in. Well, a couple minutes Acada damit back
to Ryan Liza already in progress eight dollars if you
want to read it yourself. Olivia develops addictive light attachments
to the men she loves, who are generally older and
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more powerful, and she pursues them until she conquers them.
I can tell you, without fear of contradiction, it had
never occurred to me until I read this and other
things that were written in the last week that she
might have pursued me. I didn't get that feeling at all.
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It's not to say that's not the case, particularly if
she's adept at it or was developing skills like this,
it would explain in any event. There's a quote, now,
this is twenty twenty, so this is pre RFK Junior
and after Mark Sandford and Liziit quotes her as saying,
I'm three for three. She said to me in a
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moment of levity after the affair with Mark I'm not
going to just assume that I am addictive like attachments
to the men she loves. She didn't show any addictive
like behavior towards me. It was really normal. She once
got mad at me because I didn't say I love you.
At the end of a conversation, she said, what about
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saying it? I'm sorry once. There was not addictive behavior.
She didn't follow me around. She didn't place, you know,
air pods or not air pods air tags on me
to see where I was. She didn't call five minutes
before the show to make sure I was in the studio.
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She didn't do that stuff others may have. So I'm
not sure that I'm three for three here, But I'm
just interested if I'm not. If it's not three for
three at the three here or not me Liza and
former governor of North Carolina as of twenty twenty. I'm
interested to him is there another politician besides RFK and
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Mark Sandford. I'm wondering what he's hinting. Now. This is
a part that I don't really fully understand. Aside from
that notable moment of bragging, Olivia was mostly deeply apologetic
and ashamed. She offered to pay back our book advance
because the affair had sabotaged the project. Okay, how in
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the hell did that happen? I mean, you're right. She
spiraled into self loathing and self pity about what an
f f up she was. Other times she unloaded on
me and says, listing all the ways I had made
mistakes in our relationship and insisting that she deserved another chance.
By the fall of twenty twenty two, we were engaged.
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Excuse I have one. I have a series of small questions.
We go from deeply apologetic, ashamed, offering to pay back
the book advance, self loathing, self pity, unloading on him
all the ways he made mistakes, insisting she deserved another check.
By the fall of twenty twenty two, we were engaged.
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Couldn't there have at least been like a graphic in
there that said later? What I mean, how do you
go from that to we were engaged? I understand, becau,
because I am one hundred and twenty seven years old
that in a relationship, if you're going to continue after
some crisis, especially the crisis of infidelity, you're going to
have to buy in completely. I understand that. But the
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jump from unloading on me listing all the ways I
had made mistakes. What an f up? She was, self loathing,
self pity, insisting she deserved another chance. Jumping directly from
that too, we're engaged, like what although one thing does
does encourage me with this? I used to be sent
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by a friend of mine who liked to push a
particular button posts that they would make on Facebook in
which they would you report from being in Italy or something,
and the showing the ring in such a way that
it was larger than her head, and she has a
pretty big head or his head, and he has a
pretty big head photographing it. So just you saw the
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diamond on the ring. And my friend would send these
two me and go, is this the most garish thing
you've ever seen in your life? And I was like, yes, well,
at least we know that all those gushing words I
love you more every passing day. At least those things
that looked too stupid to be real were too stupid
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to be real. Let me leave you with a lighter
note from Ryan lizzb I asked her to remove her
engagement ring. This is after he decided to throw her
out in August twenty twenty four, and I was surprised
by her stunned response. I'm not taking that off, she
screamed as she began sobbing. I don't want to take
it off. Well, of course not Ryan. Of course she
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wouldn't take it off. She was presumably planning to keep
it and sell it, like the commitment ring that I
had bought her, which somehow, Ryan, you knew the value
of thirteen years after I bought it for her. Who knows?
Maybe she and Ryan and split the money on the
commitment ring. We're the engagement ring? Oh news? Anybody checked eBay?
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One last note from The New York Times, which I mentioned,
which was the first to report that Vanity Fair was
reviewing its relationship with Olivia News. I'll bet it is like,
let's review how many people here should be fired because
we hired Olivia Newsy without knowing that this is a
serial thing and she has no value to us whatsoever,
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except possibly as a model if we can find her eyebrows.
Is the Times reviewing its fawning profile of her a
week ago today, in which Carl Bernstein's son missed every
single news story that has dominated one corner of the
news business since I mean, frankly, sir, you are over
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two hundred and sixteen their story after story after story,
even if you're just doing what The Times is now doing,
which is what I'm doing to some degree, aggregating and
commenting on what this guy keeps putting on his substack
eight dollars. Anyway, in the Times piece, which, as I said,
nobody actually read because within three hours it was all
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Part two is up. It's all about Robert F. Kennedy
and his rules about oral sex. Notice I skipped that anyway.
I was in the Times article. I was quoted describing
my relationship with her with the rings, with the dogs,
with the tattoos as marriage e. It's not an elegant word,
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but it was apt, and in fact I was quoting Olivia.
That was her word, what kind of marriage ee? This
is the quote that they got from her. She actually
responded to this. Ms Noozy apparently does not consider her
relationship with mister Olderman to have been marriage ye quote.
I have not ever before and will not now acknowledge
any claims made by this person, she wrote in a text.
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By the way, this sums her all up. I have
not ever before and will not now acknowledge any claims
made by this person, she wrote in a text which
was in itself an acknowledgment of claims made by this person,
self defeating a little bit here, damn. Also, I will
not acknowledge any claims man by this person. Not acknowledged
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the five hundred five thousand who knows photos and videos
I never counted them of me with this person, or
with this person and our dogs, or with this person
and our tattoos as we got them, or with this
person at events we went to, or the thousands of emails,
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or the list of this person's friends that we dined
with and I got to meet, or a group of
this person's friends whom she called up after the breakup,
insisting that she hadn't broken up with them and she
wanted to stay friends, particularly the ones who had political
connections or television connections, how odd, occasionally calling them later
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as sources for her stories. I will not now acknowledge
any claims lal Olivia, who may have peaked psychologically at
twenty or maybe when she was writing the Livy copy
about the pop music who Knows, I expect her to
now issue a statement reading I have not ever before
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and will not now acknowledge that my journalism and writing
careers are over, even though they sure as f R
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believe it or not. There are still more new idiots
to talk about before I go the roundup of the miscrants,
morons and Dunning Krueger effects specimens who constitute today's other
worst persons in the world. Runner up an unnamed rooky
Chicago cop, and I would like to, if you'll permit me,
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read this from the Chicago Sun Times in my bad
impression of Walter Cronkite Ready, the probationary Chicago cop accidentally
shot himself in the groin Wednesday night because he headed
into work at the Gresham District Station. Land twenty two.
Was in the parking lot of the station seventy eighth
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eight South Halstead Street when the firearm in his waistband
went off around ten oh five pm and grazed him
in the groin. Police said he was quote wearing street
clothes and heading for duty when the gun discharged, and
he accidentally shot himself in the testicles. According to Office
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of Emergency Management and Communication records obtained by The Sun Times,
an officer in distress call you bet was made around
the time of the shooting. He was taken to the
University of Chicago Medical Center and was listed in good condition.
Lea said, the news apparently official. He shot himself in
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the testables. That's the way it is. Monday, November twenty fourth,
twenty twenty five, Walter Cronkite CBS News, speaking of CBS
News the runner up these Ellison assholes. The idea of
them buying CNN and merging it into CBS is real
enough that they are offering to essentially shoot CNN anchors.
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The White House doesn't like if Trump will let them
buy the company that owns CNN and merge CNN into
CBS News. From The Guardian, senior White House officials have
discussed internally their preference for Paramount sky Dance. Those are
the Ellisons to acquire Warner Bros. Discovery. One official has
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discussed potential programming changes at CNN with Larry Ellison. According
to people familiar, they come as Paramount portrays itself as
the best bid blah blah blah, because it'd be easier
to get through regulatory review. Ellison often speaks to connections
at the White House and in at least one phone call,
according to the Guardian's Hugo Lowell engaged in a dialogue
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about possibly axing some of the CNN hosts whom Donald
Trump is said to loathe, including Aaron Burnett and Brianna Keeler.
The people said, now, I have no use for Aaron Burnett, who,
if you remember, on her first day as a news anchor,
after years doing business on CNBC, went on the air
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during the time of Occupy Wall Street and went to
Wall Street and had herself videotaped sitting on Wall Street
and saying, oh, look, I'm occupying Wall Street and mocked
the entire concept of it, and thought she would get
some sort of Emmy award for it, or perhaps a
lifetime Emmy award for it. I have no use for
her none. I have previously called for Brianna Keeler to
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be fired because she was serving the Trump interests. But
this is something else. This is now advanced to the
stage in which the White House would get to essentially
pick the personnel lineup for primetime and other times on CNN.
We have entered into a period of time in which
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the best thing that could happen for CNN, and maybe
at this point for CBS News is for it to
be sold for scrap, sell the cameras to some country
that actually does the news, like Ecuador, and yet trying
to get rid of all these terrible anchors at White
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House request. Jake Tapper is somehow safe. Jake Tapper tweeted
after a woman reporter asked about President Trump's name being
raised an email sent by convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein.
Trump snaps at her quiet piggy Jenna Ellis, remember her
the least competent besides the Kraken woman of all of
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Trump's twenty twenty deniers. Jenna Ellis, assistant to Rudy Giuliani.
My god, actually retweeted this, then deleted. It isn't the
reporter's name, Peggy. Come on, Jake, at least pretend harder
to be a journalist. Yeah. I heard that too. To
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be fair, On the other hand, I didn't tweet it
or say it on the air. You know, search engines
are our friend, Peggy. Peggy Ellis, Catherine Lucy was her name.
It's close close, Jenna Ellis close, speaking of close our
winners Catterird and Laura Fruitcake of the Lumer They are
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not happy no matter how much Trump is happy. They
are not happy with Mayor Elect Mamdani. They are not happy.
Polymarket put out a tweet which was designed to get
exactly this response. Somebody pointed it out it was an
IQ test and guess who didn't pass. The tweet was
breaking Zora and Mamdani to require all New York elementary
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school students to learn Arabic numerals. Catterd responded, that's not
far enough. He should make every school kid in New
York only speak Arabic, no English. The insane liberal Karens
voted for this complete nut. Let them reap what they sow.
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And Laura Lumer, you know things are bad when you
can't tell if this is real or a joke. Dear God,
it's real, isn't it now? Laura Lumer is a child
who wears a lot of makeup, so she can perhaps
be excused for being this stupid for not knowing what
Arabic numerals are. But this guy cat Turd is in
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like his like in his nineties, or he's one hundred
and ten or something. He should have found out by now,
even with the background that he has, that Arabic numerals
are one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight nine.
I believe the zero originates elsewhere, but one through nine
are Arabic numerals. Somebody added worse than all this, Madady
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is also going to make sure that the City of
New York teaches non binary numbers. Lomer and cat turd
morons today's other worst persons in the world. Once again,
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how could you just before you do that, how could
you not check to see if you're being set up
right next to wherever your Twitter is or your ex
or your Blue Sky or your Blue Chew or whatever
it is you're using. Isn't there another button that allows
you to search the internet? Couldn't you just search quote
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mark Arabic numerals.
Speaker 3 (01:04:59):
Unquote just to see how much time does it add?
How much time does it take away from your rage
against the liberal bastards who are trying to institute Sharia
shania law. They want Shania law in this country.
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the first time in more than a decade, the far
right and the far left and everybody in between is
in full agreement. None of us knows what the hell
is wrong with Trump, for sometimes when a cult leader
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goes crazy, it actually can be a negative for the cult,
like oh now ish when the cult realizes that while
they usually love it when Trump goes crazy, this time
he's gone crazy for somebody else and crazy against them.
Trump was so smitten with Mayor Elect Zoran Mamdani of
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New York that the disturbingly sincere looking grin on his
face Friday and the tone of sure, call me a
fascist friend in the Oval office was just the start
of it. By Saturday, he was dressing like Mam Donnie,
a neat black overcoat that fit him and a scarf
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that enveloped his neck, and hair combed with something other
than a garden claw, and the overall appearance of somebody who,
for the first time in his life, had actually asked
somebody else for their advice about the overall appearance and
actually listened to the advice. Mom Donnie was somehow so
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appealing to Trump that from Trump's point of view, he
might as well have been I don't know, Jeffrey Epstein.
Remember some far right commentators, not all, to be certain,
but some as close to sanity as say the Newsmax
level of Hell had almost expected that when Mayor elect
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mam Donni arrived at the White House, he would be
greeted by Trump and Tom Homan and hooded ice Gestapo
agents on horseback who would fabricate some story about Mam
Donny lying on paperwork, and they would seize him, and
they would expel him or at least put him in
a prison somewhere. They are still all the way over
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there in a probably chemically induced fantasy, a world cobbled
together from graphic novels and the worst streaming sci fi.
Trump instead thought he was Nito. At the same hour,
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Marjorie Taylor Green was in a fact excommunicated by Trump.
She announced her quote resignation unquote from Congress effective in
January because a she realized Trump would not support her
and therefore the cult would not support her, and she
felt Trump had lost his way and done nothing but
to make America worse. The role of Marjorie Taylor Green
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will now be played by Laura Lumer, and Laura Lumer
was so aghast about Mam Donnie that she asked why
she or any other maga should even bother to vote
in the midterms next year, to which I reply with
a manly supportive hurrah, you go girl. They do not
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know what's wrong with Trump. Trump's malfunctions are usually a delight.
They are their joy, they are their reason debtre Yet
this makes no sense to them. Big strong men coming
up to Zorn Mamdanie and saying, sir, I like your coat.
Where did you get that coat? You mean? They can
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actually make a coat bigger or smaller, so it doesn't
look like it was dropped on you by a company
that makes tents and bouncy houses. The fascists are so confused,
so bereft, that not even the thrill of Trump advocating
for the hanging of the Democratic senators and representatives who
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reminded the military they are obliged to not obey illegal orders,
not even that, not even that warm glow could last.
It's almost as if he never meant it. Where are
the construction cranes with Democrats swinging from the hooks like
the Taliban or the Iranian lunatics to it. The far
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right hates the Taliban and Iran, but they got to
hand it to them. You and I should not forget
the Trump threat. Representative Hulahan didn't forget the Trump threat.
She told Greg Sergeant. She actually filed a threat report
with the Capitol Police. And in the place where he's
supposed to write who threatened you, Hulihan wrote, quote the President.
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She thinks some of her colleagues in that video, whom
Trump then threatened with hanging for sedition, also filed complaints
with the Capitol Police. On Trump and Trump, he just
drifted off. He just drifted off from the whole topic again.
He drifted off metaphorically to the edge of a river.
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It's a wide river, to be certain, there's no indication
that there's any real way over to the other side.
But on the other side of that river there is
a land in which Trump resigns the presidency so he
can join the Zoran Mamdani administration as the ninety seventh
Building Commissioner of the City of New York, and they
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give him an office and legos and blocks and a
big model of Manhattan, and you can move the buildings
all around and shit. They thought Mamdanni would leave the
Oval Office in chains. Instead Trump left the Oval Office
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in love. I am not suggesting for a moment Trump
has been pacified, or he's mellowed, or he's not a
danger to every living thing on this planet every moment
of every day. I am, however, suggesting that between whatever
is wrong with him and now accelerating into an active
stage and this kind of second giddy childhood we saw
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Friday with Mamdanni and a slightly new strategy from some
of his opponents, among all that there has been a
noteworthy change in the vibe. Mamdani obviously played Trump like
a two dollars ban Joe, and the sooner the Democrats
figure out exactly what he did in there, and basically
that was he flattered Trump by telling Trump that he
was often right and insightful and even he's seeming enemies
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like many of Trump's ideas. The sooner the Democrats figure
that out and bottle it, the better for them and
for us. There was also a new strategy offered by
ABC and Disney. He attacked their reporter Mary Bruce during
the Mohammed Bin Salman photo op disaster dressing her down
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when he barely knew who the hell she was, made
her the focus of his hatred of all media, and
at that moment, of ABC, perhaps because they are first alphabetically.
He then went on a series of tirades about Jimmy
Kimmel again, even though the last time he did that
he suffered one of the few, no doubt humiliations of
his presidency of intimidation. ABC and Disney and Bob Eiger
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then tried something new. They ignored all of it. They
made a bland statement defending their news but not Mary
Bruce by name. She took the hit, and their network
and their staate. They defended them, but not Kimmel. Kimmel
then turned it into a joke Trump, I'll go when
you go. Otherwise, ABC ignored Trump, and again Trump moved
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on while his cultists simmered where are the construction cranes?
It can be argued correctly, I think that, of course
ABC ignored Trump this time. Bob Iger had already tried
everything else, Bribing that didn't work, capitulating that didn't work,
Suspending Kimmel that didn't work, defying Trump that didn't work,
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and frankly, Iigers out of ideas. They were just too
tired to actually try anything this time. Well, at least
occasionally apparently that works. I cannot describe to you diving in,
not wearing my best shoes as I have done this,
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diving into the right wing streams. I cannot describe to
you how disoriented this has left his cult. Charles Gasparino,
the Fox Business commentator with the shortest fuse in the world,
watched the Mamdani event and wrote, I really think the
wheels are coming off the Trump presidency. Wow. Countless right
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wingers were appalled when this Moscow composed twenty eight point
plan for Ukrainian victory that merely requires Ukraine to give
up everything turned out to be Moscow composed not just that,
but composed in Russian clumsily translated into English, complete with
backwards Russian conjugation, backwards conjugation. Rusky and then Marco Rubio
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first told some Republican senators that this was not the
Trump plan at all, but the Putin plan written in
Moscow suggested deliver by the Russians. And then he said, no,
he didn't, he didn't say that when he called to
tell these senators that, they say he literally said that,
Oh no, no, no, no, he never did that. He
meant it was a plan that recognized Russian desires. And then,
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and then, and then Marco might as well have paused
for a moment and then run off camera again to
chug a small water bottle of Poland spring or vodka.
Apart from the implications heads Russia winds tails, Oh oops, no,
it's a two headed coin. Tails is also heads Russia wins.
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Apart from the implications, the State Department and the entire
Trump foreign policy and operation looked like idiots, not just
internationally but within MAGA. And just to round it out,
when MAGA thought Trump had finally destroyed Ukraine and this
was final, he has come back with more of a stall,
this appeasement of Putin, who can no longer afford to
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pay his own Russian troops. Trump says that's not his
final answer. Shrug emoji. Meanwhile, while they wanted Trump to
actually hang Mark Kelly or Chrissy Hulahan or the others,
the US military apparently did issue illegal orders last week,
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and a bunch of military contractors went and put up
keep out signs marked National Defense Area three where the
Rio Grande River dumps into the Gulf of Mexico, and
that's hardly like ordering Pete kaboom hegseth to blow up
some mythical Antifa city Oregon. But it did become another
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problem for MAGA when it turned out the signs had
been put up in Mexico, not in the United States.
And once again the entire Trump foreign policy and military
operation looks like idiots. Looks like idiots to MAGA. Could
it get worse? Oh? Why yes, yes it could. Remember
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the outrageous twenty billion dollar bribe to Argentina. Re elect
that FOP president Wolverine or whatever his name is, and
we'll pay your way out of the financial collapse he created.
That's gone. Now scaled it back a little, did we now?
Maybe Trump will pay Malay maybe four billion to help
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him with his debt payment in January. Maybe even the
domestic terrorism thing seems to have petered out. Cash Bettel
is now the subject of more investigations than he is conducting.
The latest The Times report that he sent SWAT teams
to protect his girlfriend the country quote singer unquote, presumably
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to defend her against people who have heard her sing. Meanwhile,
a group of European has built a kind of Wikipedia
of ice raids and tactics and agent identifications. It is
in Europe. So who's Christyinome gonna arrest? The EU will
simply tell her Fu and the horse you rode in
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on Christy. Moreover, the Guardian reports the FBI infiltrated a
signal chat of anti ice organizers in this country, and
nobody in Maga could object to that, except they got caught,
and they had to shut down the infiltration because they
got caught, and worst of all, worse than you can
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possibly imagine, worse from the Maga point of view. Their
dream of dreams sending the military or ICE or Seal
Team six or somebody into New York City to be
the real rain that will come and wash all this
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come off the street. Yes, they're not getting that. No
ice raids in New York, no military in New York. Maga,
you are getting the undiscussed, too terrible to contemplate, but
very real possibility that instead of the trumpest destruction of
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Sin City, you will be getting Trump Attending Zoraan Mamdani
swearing in shortly after midnight on January first, Good to
see you see do you mind. I wore one of
your plain black suits and white shirts and them skinny
black ties. You know that Olberman guy used to dress
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like that. Remember the wheels really are coming off. Charlie
Gasperino better hitch. I keep harping on Trump and Mam
Donnie's appearance, and this is not idle. Yes, Trump is
an endless front run and kiss ass. And he really
did even once write me a fan letter a year
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before he declared me an enemy of the people because
I lived in one of his buildings and he used
to watch me on ESPN. He does that. There's no
such thing as time or consistency. Better still, for Mam Donnie,
Mam Donnie is somebody who literally cannot become what Trump
has become president, So he's no real threat to Trump.
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But there's something else, appearance wise that I noticed last week,
and it's really weird. But I've been thinking a lot
about this, Mam Donnie, Muhammad, Ben Salmon, jd Vance, guys
with beards, beards. Trump defers to guys with beards, full
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prominent beards, big heavy beards. Think about this is not unanimous.
He sure didn't defer to Jack Smith's beard, and it
has to be a big beard. Not the beat Nick
fringe style that President Zelensky favors. Looks good on him.
But once you make a list of big beards that
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Trump defers to, it's kind of hard to unsee it.
Vance Nbs, ma'm Donnie Howard Lutnick Russell, vote, Brad Barscale,
Trump's crazy dead doctor, Harold Bornstein, ma'm donnie owen uh
Beard's Donald Trump Junior. Which brings us back to the
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great MAGA disillusionment. Steve Bannon doesn't have a beard. He's tried,
it didn't work, And right now Steve Bannon has the sads,
and not just because he doesn't have the beards. Late
Saturday night, Bannon reposted a screenshot from somebody calls themselves
Free be Speaker. It is a creed tour. Creed to
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something Kerr means heart, ain't no heart in MAGA, and
this thing, whatever it is, sums it up. Right now
the Trump castle has collapsed and they know it. It is,
in essence, a note to Steve Bannon from freeb Speaker. Steve,
please let President Trump know what he must already know
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that many of US MAGA supporters are heartbroken these days
watching him squander that powerful electoral mandate we gave him.
He won forty nine percent of the vote freeb speaker,
on which he executed so magnificently in the first months
of his term. Those are the golden years, the first
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few months making nice with the vile Mandan. He is
probably understandable at this stage, but don't think many of
us fathom a Ukraine plan that puts the US on
the hook for that corrupt country security and enforcement, a
bizarre congratulatory meeting with the ISIS terrorist dictator of Syria,
an executive order barring every American state from protecting its
own citizens against the worst hours of AI, while he
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enthusiastically promotes AI freedoms and subsidies and cozies up to
big tech CEOs who'll abandoned him in a nanosecond. His
seeming blindness through remaining america destroying immigration flaws like the
H one B VISUS scam you've exposed, and the flood
of Chinese student workers still in the US, all to
such cruel detriment to American workers. This guy's on a
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bridge somewhere, any not to mention the seemingly endless delays
in justice for the worst the Deep State has done
to him and this country, although we cling to remnants
of trust in his overworked, understaffed DOJ. Yeah, overworked traveling
to see cash Betel girlfriend the quote singer unquote, I
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doubt I'm alone after believing in his uniquely heroic intentions
for this country and supporting him since twenty sixteen, struggling
now to understand so much of what he's doing. It's
like I said, now they don't know what he's doing.
Without question, the political and social alternative is certain death
for this country. Yeah, they've been predicting this since twenty fifteen.
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Hasn't even come close to happening yet. But go on,
But how can he expect his average MAGA voter to
stay warmly close to him when he appears to be
pushing him farther and farther out into the cold. And
if he doesn't remain the herculean mainstay of this country's
MAGA reforms, how can the feckless, cowardly GOP expect to
keep hold of Congress narrator? They couldn't. And how can
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we navigate our way through the nasty GOP MAGA infighting?
Now Gurgley to the Service at the same time, we
put not our trust in princes. By the way, that's
a quote from Confederacy President Jefferson Davis. We put not
our trust in princes, but we have trusted that Almighty
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God empowered Donald Trump to do the good, near impossible
things this country needs to survive. Please, Lord continue to
be with him. Well, they embraced Zamba and them zam
DONI didn't that indicate the Lord is doing his miraculous
works through Trump. Ah, that's where they are. They don't
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understand what's happening. It's their turn. May they live the
rest of their lives not understanding what went wrong with Trump?
And sorry about your last point, freeb speaker. The Lord
cannot find Trump right now because Trump is busily trying
to find out if Zorn Mamdani plays golf. Remember a
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couple of episodes back when I asked if it's actually
possible that when Trump said he did not know what
part of his body they had scanned in his MRI
last month, that he wasn't lying that he wasn't not
paying attention. I mean, how could you literally not know
which part the MRI was for. I mean, if you
were unconscious or sedated. Even after that, when they were
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telling you how great your score was on your MRI,
like that's a thing, and how it was the greatest
MRI ever recorded, you'd probably just figure out what party
part it was, even unintentionally, How how how could that
not have? I forgot entirely about anosognosia ironic because basically
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anopsygnosia is sophisticated, medically explained forgetting stuff. I have discussed
this before. What if he doesn't know what the MRI
was for, because whatever it was, he has anosgnosia about it.
In brief, this is the disease that makes it impossible
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for you to recognize that you have a disease or
an injury, or that you've had a stroke, or that
you have, say just to pick one at random, Alzheimer's.
It is a brain injury. It is caused by a
variety of things, often by stroke, but other things cause
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it too. Trump may not have had any idea that
he has some kind of cognitive illness and that they're
testing him for it. And even if somebody around him
had had the courage to tell him, he would a
not believe them, or he would instantly forget that they
had just told him, like if he had an MRI
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of his brain to see if new Alzheimer's drugs are working,
he'd only remember the letter's MRI. The immortal David Dunning
of Dunning Krueger Syndrome once wrote the easiest to digest
example defining anosagnosia quote, an anosognosic patient who is paralyzed
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simply does not know that he is paralyzed. If you
put a pencil in front of them and ask them
to pick up the pencil in front of their left hand,
they won't do it. And you ask them why, and
they'll say, ah, I'm tired, or I don't need a pencil.
And presidents have been studied for this exact behavior before
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presidents and their pencils as latter day experts used new
medical knowledge a few decades ago to study the stroke
that Woodrow Wilson suffered while on his cross country tour
to try to sell the League of Nations to America
over the heads of a disapproving Senate. While all of
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that has been studied and studied and studied, the conclusion
has now become widespread that whether or not he'd had
it earlier after the stroke in nineteen twenty, Wilson showed
all of the signs of anosagnosia. In the nineteen seventies,
the neuropsychiatrist Edwin Weinstein was granted access to Woodrow Wilson's papers,
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and he wrote quote, following his stroke, the outstanding feature
of the president's behavior was his denial of his incapacity.
Denial of illness or ANO literally lack of knowledge of disease,
is a common sequel of the type of brain injury
received by President Woodrow Wilson. In this condition, the patient
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denies or appears unaware of such deficits as paralysis or blindness.
To casual observers, anosygnosiac patients may appear quite normal and
even bright and witty when not on the subject of
their disability. They are quite rational, and tests of their
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intelligence may show no deficit unquote, who in the hell
does that sound like? I don't know why they gave
me an MRI. Unfortunately, when on the subject of his disability,
President Wilson was anything but rational. His Secretary of State,
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Robert Lansing, summoned the cabinet to a meeting to discuss
the crisis in Wilson's illness. And Wilson, or more likely
missus will Wilson forced the Secretary of State Lancing to resign.
Doctors who challenged President Wilson were dismissed. People who knew
Wilson before his stroke were eased out or denied access
to him. Wilson insisted until his death that while he
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had had a stroke, it only affected his walking and
only a little. How the hell could you not know
what they stuck you in the mritube four? Well you
did know, but whatever is wrong with your brain immediately
erased it. Like a dream you try to remember as
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you wake up, and it slips away from you, like
mercury on the floor, or like somebody was closing and
locking a door, keeping your dream away from you. So,
in addition to needing to worry about Trump having had
a stroke or flew into phasia or Alzheimer's or god
knows what, we also have to worry about him having
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an illness that makes it impossible for him to ac
or even remember that he'd had a stroke, or fluent
aphasia or Alzheimer's, or even just the MRI to test
for it. No, the MRI was for my toenails. I
have ingrown toenails and not really bad ones. I got
a great score on my ingrown Toenail MRI and so
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now in some for the first time in his dictatorship,
none of us haters, lovers, supporters, Mam Danny's, none of
us know what the hell is wrong with this guy Trump,
And if he has annosagnosia, he does know what's wrong
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with him. But he just forgot it again, and yet
he remembers he likes Mom Daddy. I can also guess
that he did not read this weekend's worth of Olivia Newsy,
Ryan Lizza, Robert F. Kennedy Junior News, because if he had,
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even Trump would have fired Kennedy by now already today,
because Kennedy is now a clear and present danger to
Trump's presidency, because Kennedy is scandal plagued and sloppy and
nuts and he is in some way involved with a
woman who may be nuttier than he is. If you
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read the updates on my ex over the weekend, I
hope your stomach has settled down. I am not going
to even reference the Kennedy love poetry to Olivia about
his uh, well, what was it? Sterling Hayden called it
in Doctor Strangelove his life essence, Man Drake the purity
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of his life essence. I deny them my life essence.
What I am going to reference, though, is the important part,
which is Ryan Lizz's assertion no evidence yet presented that
Olivia Newsey ran catch and kill operations to barry scandals
about Robert F. Kennedy Junior while she was employed by
New York Magazine for more than a year before the election,
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and Liz's further insistence that Newsy told him that if
anybody found out about her and Kennedy quote, I'm afraid
Bobby will kill me. You can skip this next half
hour update after the break, you can proceed directly to
the C block and Worse Persons. If not, get a
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drink and pull up a chair and join me. It's
the news of Newsy and it's a doozy that's next.
This is Countdown.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Among his other credits, Moe used to host a TV
show called Things I Hate About You. I'm sure I've
seen that program, only I believe it's now called Countdown
with Keith Overman.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Still ahead, Worse Persons and Ted Turner's dream used to
be when I worked for him one hundred and fifteen
years ago was to buy CBS News, in fact, buy
all of CBS and merge it into CNN to show
television that in nineteen eighty two cable was already boss.
Now it's Larry Ellison's dreamed by CNN and merge it
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into CBS to show the world that Trump is boss
and decides who's on CNN and who isn't, holding anchors
hostage ahead in Worse Persons, But first postscripts to the news,
some headlines, some updates, some snark, count down podcast, and
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these are the places where there's news. Dateline, the Department
of Health and Human Services, The New York Times with
bad timing Friday night, putting out a story that was
at least a week in the making about Liza Newsy
and RFK Junior and that character who gets killed in
the first scene me and Liza getting up in Newsy's busy.
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And three hours after they posted the article, Ryan Liza
dropped part two of his expose on his ex fiance,
making the Times peace completely outdated and more importantly, turning
this from a grotesque but tremendously entertaining saga of a
disturbed woman I used to live with and the rapidly
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disappearing schmuck she used to live with and serially cheat
on with politicians as old or older than I am
transforming that lighthearted enterprise into something that should eventually put
Robert F. Kennedy Junior in prison, and should more immediately
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precipitate an investigation of New York Magazine. If what Ryan
Liza writes is true, don't worry. There's lots of gossip
gold to review, and I will. And if this is
not your cup of tea, feel free to hit stop
or scoot forward. Worst persons is after the next break.
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But here's the real headline deep in part two of Liza,
which you put behind a paywall. See if you hear
the headline as it goes by quote. I have never
been able to convey Olivia's near total obsession with Bobby properly.
What I can say with authority is that it seeped
into every corner of her life, affected every relationship she had,
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and drove every decision she made in late twenty twenty
three and all of twenty twenty four, including her catch
and kill operations on his behalf, the campaign strategy memos
she wrote him and the other journalistic transgressions that have
still not been disclosed. For me, it was like waking
up and learning she was a heroin addict or had
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joy Way Way Wait wait wait wait wait.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Wait wait.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Say that part again, heroin addict? No no, no, no no.
The part about catch and kill, Oh yeah, drove every
decision she made in late twenty twenty three and all
twenty twenty four, including her catch and kill operations on
his behalf. Catch and kill the way the Weekly World
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Pro Trump News or whatever it was called, used to
buy stories to either use to blackmail on Trump's behalf
or to keep Trump from getting bad publicity during the campaign.
That kind of catch and kill. Olivia did this with
whose money? She did catch and kill operations in twenty
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twenty three, late twenty twenty three, he says, and twenty
twenty four, all of twenty twenty four, he emphasizes. All
of twenty twenty four. She was still employed by New
York Magazine until the story broke in September of twenty
twenty four. That's not good for New York Magazine. They were,
at best an unknowing base of catch and kill operations
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on behalf of Robert F. Kennedy Juniors, presumably still his
presidential campaign. They published an article which in retrospect is
clearly designed to help him and authenticate him. We know
that now just from reading it. You could see it then.
And the other part of this is Ryan Lisen knew
about this. I mean, he doesn't come out and say
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I knew about this, except he does say he did
live with her, and it seeped into every corner of
her life. And and he kept this secret for in
some cases, let's seen late twenty twenty three, it's not
late twenty twenty five, so some of this is two
years old. Ryan, And and you kept this secret as
he ran for president and and and affected some of
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the voting patterns as they developed in the twenty twenty
four election, and then was named to destroy a vaccine
safety in this country and generally put as many crackpot
ideas in an attempt to restore the medical stature of
medieval barbers from the fifteenth century this Ky and you
and you kept it secret so you could charge us
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eight dollars to read about it later. It's not good
for you, Ryan Lizzon. My complaints about him actually have
like are one percent to do with the fact that
that relationship followed my relationship with her. I think that's human.
Ninety nine percent of it either precedes my knowing Olivia Newsy,
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and it's just about how bad and overrated a journalist
he was. And I'm in a perverse way glad to
see that it has been restored that my opinion of
him was correct. No, I know about this terrible situation
in which people are catching and killing bad stories about
Robert F. Kennedy Junior. And I'm not going to tell
anybody till after the election, a year into his role
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as the head of the Department of Health and Human Services,
as he slashes millions of dollars from cancer research that
is in fact going to lead probably to the death
of his fatally ill cousin, the mother of two small children.
And you apparently knew. Here's something else, a little bit
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lighter than that quote. As she left, I said something
that would have enormous ramifications going forward. People are going
to ask me what happen, I told Olivia, and I'm
going to tell the truth. I was faced with a
similar question, by the way, and I said, people are
going to ask me what happened, And I'm not going
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to say shit, and I didn't for nine years. There
have been questions about my commenting at all about this story.
You did not know that I had a relationship with
olbya Newsy let alone that she lived with me from
the time she was I think it's fair to say
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almost like within weeks of her nineteenth birthday was when
she kind of started to move stuff in. She lived
with me from ages nineteen through twenty three. You know
she'd already turned twenty four. Yeah, twenty three. I'm sorry,
I got that number wrong. Nineteen to twenty three and
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I didn't tell anybody anything until the New York Post
called and said, we understand you used to date, at
which point, well, I'm not going to let the New
York Post scoop me on this story. The cat's out
of the bag. I'm not going to let somebody else
have the cat, as it were. And then I didn't
bring myself into the Liza mix. He put me in
his sub stack story. Anyway, people are going to ask
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me what happened I told Olivia, and I'm not gonna
say shit, that's not what Ryan Lizzie says here. People
are going to ask me what happened, Ryan Liza told Olivia,
and I'm going to tell the truth. She seemed paralyzed
with fear, he writes, and frankly, I didn't understand why.
It was only later, when we were deep into what
would become weeks of conversations about every detail of what
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transpired between her and Bobby, who had told her that
he demanded discipline and fearlessness and at times total submission,
that she explained her terrified reaction that August morning. If
anyone ever finds out, Olivia told me quote, I'm afraid
Bobby will kill me unquote. Two things. I'll remind you
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that she told me in probably twenty fourteen, yes, maybe
twenty thirteen, that whenever she would go to Washington, this
guy Ryan Wizza was stalking her. I don't think whatever
he did actually qualified as stalking. She later clearly used
the same term about me to him, and what I
did to her did not come remotely close to stalking.
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So the idea that somehow Bobby Kennedy was going to
kill her seems a little seems a little more consistent
with her oh exaggeration and pitting herself in a physition
in which her guy has to believe that she is
in some sort of serious danger and must rescue her
from this rather than Bobby Kennedy planned to have Olivia
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Newsy killed. But quote, if anyone ever finds out, Olivia
told me, I'm afraid Bobby will kill me, which sets
up part three, which he's hinted at before, in which
he mentioned that there was a plot that he claims
Newsy engaged with to send him to prison with the
help of the Trump administration or with the help then
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of the Trump people. Last year, there was a story
about her going to the FBI and trying to get
Ryan Lizza arrested for accessing her phone. That's not the
story that he tells. He claims he accessed stuff that
fell out of her book bag on the floor. Now
about the Mark Sandford story, quote, Olivia had written a
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tabloid style news story about how sources in Washington, d C.
And Charleston have been buzzing recently about an unexpected romance
Mark Sandford and Olivia Newzy, who was described as one
of the most famous political reporters in America, A blonde
beauty who gained critical acclaim as a skilled profile writer,
gaining access to the powerful and the mysterious, and turning
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it into pure journalistic gold. The Sanford story. When did
she go see him? Did she have a long running
affair with him? Was it one night's stand? Who knows?
He writes about it in detail. It's about as interesting
as my romantic life with her. You don't care, I
(41:18):
guess I care. I don't care as much as I
cared then In any event, she wrote a fake article
that he found about herself in the third person and
her I mean reading like something out of an eight
year old diary, an eight year old's diary, Olivia told me,
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he goes on. She wrote the fake article as an
exercise to think through what might be the worst that
could be said publicly if the affair became known, though
that didn't really make sense to me given the pieces tone.
You think pure journalistic gold. I'm terrified someone might accuse
me of being beautiful and skilled, the most skilled profile,
(41:59):
the most famous political reporter in America. Her fantasizing about
what it would be like when her secret relationship with
a notorious politician finally became public would repeat itself during
her affair with Bobby. So he's now setting up again
the third episode, in which in which he reveals that
she wrote something like this about what would happen when
(42:20):
the Bobby Kennedy story came out again. I took some
criticism for using the neo meme, the neo gif jiff,
the gift jiff meme about what's his name Keanu Reeves
dodging bullets? Oh no, you took plenty of bullets in
(42:42):
that article. No no, no, no no. I meant in
you know life on my tombstone, you can write avoided
death by Olivia Newsy. Probably one thing I will say
about reading this quote that he puts in here, describing
(43:05):
herself as a blonde beauty, one of the most famous
political reporters in America, gained critical acclaim as a skilled
profile writer. Did you see online the links via the
wayback machine, the Internet wayback machine to her career as
a pop singer as a teenager under the name Livy
with two v's. I had never seen this, although the
(43:28):
photograph does look familiar. I think she showed it to
me at one point. I knew she had a singing career.
I didn't know it was pop bubblegum. I certainly didn't
know there was a song called Jailbait, for God's sakes.
But if you go and look at these captures of
what was a MySpace location for her music, and I
know I'm not going to listen to her music. No,
(43:49):
I'm not going to listen to it, she erased, all
this probably spent money to try to get rid of it.
But what you need to go and see is the
write up about Livy and what a force she was
and the influences that caused this, and how so you
know she had gained critical acclaim as a skilled pop singer,
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gaining access to the powerful and the mysterious and turning
into pure upbeat disco gold or words to that effect.
It's the same writing she was fantasizing about being the
next what was what was the Tiffany? The next Tiffany
when she was fifteen, and she was fantasizing about being
(44:31):
missus Governor Mark Sandford in twenty twenty one more thing
about Sandford that he writes in a text exchange. I
also asked Olivia if she sent Mark Sandford any pictures
that might embarrass us if they became public. She insisted
that she only sent one inappropriate photo before or after
(44:53):
you had sex with him. I asked, after, why did
you send it? Honestly because I am, and then Olivia,
as was her, wont drops an F bomb and the
our word because I am fing rd all right, nudes
to Sanford or one nude to Sandford? There's a dispute
(45:16):
on that which we'll have to go to some sort
of international by maybe the UN can hold a hearing
as to whether or not she sent a nude or
multiple nudes to Mark Sandford. Liza was the one who
would originally let out the story. We believe, we believe
it was him. We don't know who the hell else
it could have been that said that there were nudes
to RFK, but they were tasteful. I can tell you
(45:39):
she sent me nudes and I said, look, they're great.
You take a great photo. And I am all for
freedom of expression. And you and I belong to different generations,
and I know you don't really have a concept of privacy,
and the photographs, the whole thing and the enginet is
prep But here's what I would do if you really
want to do this. I'm not going to discourage you
(45:59):
from this. I am a male. There is such a
thing as biology. Here's what you do. Take the photos
and print them out, or buy a polaroid camera and
take the pictures. I understand they're gonna have to be
a little bit better. You can't delete so many, or
you know, buy a little printer for your laptop or
whatever you're using your phone, and then delete everything. Delete, delete, delete, delete.
(46:25):
The delete button is your friend. I'm all for freedom
of expression. I'm all for modern technology. I'm all for
pictures of you that are salacious. That's great. But this
is this is not appropriate to send to me, and
it's certainly not appropriate to send to me over the internet.
There are ways to do this without without sending me,
(46:47):
you know, using the internet. Don't do that. They The
most important part about this is I will survive if
you send me nude photographs. I hate to tell you this,
hon but I'm fifty whatever years old. This won't be
the first time anybody sent me a nude phote photograph,
even since when before we had an internet it happened.
(47:09):
I have survived all this, and I've kept them all
confidential or destroyed them, almost always destroyed them. In fact,
I can't think of an occasion in which I didn't.
But they're sent via the Internet. Guess what I think.
Almost everything on the Internet, even the stuff you delete,
exists somewhere. They will harm you. They will harm you later,
(47:38):
as I said, I deleted the ones she sent as
they came in. Well, a couple minutes Acada damit back
to Ryan Liza already in progress eight dollars if you
want to read it yourself. Olivia develops addictive light attachments
to the men she loves, who are generally older and
(47:59):
more powerful, and she pursues them until she conquers them.
I can tell you, without fear of contradiction, it had
never occurred to me until I read this and other
things that were written in the last week that she
might have pursued me. I didn't get that feeling at all.
(48:20):
It's not to say that's not the case, particularly if
she's adept at it or was developing skills like this,
it would explain in any event. There's a quote, now,
this is twenty twenty, so this is pre RFK Junior
and after Mark Sandford and Liziit quotes her as saying,
I'm three for three. She said to me in a
(48:41):
moment of levity after the affair with Mark I'm not
going to just assume that I am addictive like attachments
to the men she loves. She didn't show any addictive
like behavior towards me. It was really normal. She once
got mad at me because I didn't say I love you.
At the end of a conversation, she said, what about
(49:05):
saying it? I'm sorry once. There was not addictive behavior.
She didn't follow me around. She didn't place, you know,
air pods or not air pods air tags on me
to see where I was. She didn't call five minutes
before the show to make sure I was in the studio.
(49:26):
She didn't do that stuff others may have. So I'm
not sure that I'm three for three here, But I'm
just interested if I'm not. If it's not three for
three at the three here or not me Liza and
former governor of North Carolina as of twenty twenty. I'm
interested to him is there another politician besides RFK and
(49:47):
Mark Sandford. I'm wondering what he's hinting. Now. This is
a part that I don't really fully understand. Aside from
that notable moment of bragging, Olivia was mostly deeply apologetic
and ashamed. She offered to pay back our book advance
because the affair had sabotaged the project. Okay, how in
(50:08):
the hell did that happen? I mean, you're right. She
spiraled into self loathing and self pity about what an
f f up she was. Other times she unloaded on
me and says, listing all the ways I had made
mistakes in our relationship and insisting that she deserved another chance.
By the fall of twenty twenty two, we were engaged.
(50:33):
Excuse I have one. I have a series of small questions.
We go from deeply apologetic, ashamed, offering to pay back
the book advance, self loathing, self pity, unloading on him
all the ways he made mistakes, insisting she deserved another check.
By the fall of twenty twenty two, we were engaged.
(50:53):
Couldn't there have at least been like a graphic in
there that said later? What I mean, how do you
go from that to we were engaged? I understand, becau,
because I am one hundred and twenty seven years old
that in a relationship, if you're going to continue after
some crisis, especially the crisis of infidelity, you're going to
have to buy in completely. I understand that. But the
(51:17):
jump from unloading on me listing all the ways I
had made mistakes. What an f up? She was, self loathing,
self pity, insisting she deserved another chance. Jumping directly from
that too, we're engaged, like what although one thing does
does encourage me with this? I used to be sent
(51:40):
by a friend of mine who liked to push a
particular button posts that they would make on Facebook in
which they would you report from being in Italy or something,
and the showing the ring in such a way that
it was larger than her head, and she has a
pretty big head or his head, and he has a
pretty big head photographing it. So just you saw the
(52:01):
diamond on the ring. And my friend would send these
two me and go, is this the most garish thing
you've ever seen in your life? And I was like, yes, well,
at least we know that all those gushing words I
love you more every passing day. At least those things
that looked too stupid to be real were too stupid
(52:21):
to be real. Let me leave you with a lighter
note from Ryan lizzb I asked her to remove her
engagement ring. This is after he decided to throw her
out in August twenty twenty four, and I was surprised
by her stunned response. I'm not taking that off, she
screamed as she began sobbing. I don't want to take
it off. Well, of course not Ryan. Of course she
(52:45):
wouldn't take it off. She was presumably planning to keep
it and sell it, like the commitment ring that I
had bought her, which somehow, Ryan, you knew the value
of thirteen years after I bought it for her. Who knows?
Maybe she and Ryan and split the money on the
commitment ring. We're the engagement ring? Oh news? Anybody checked eBay?
(53:14):
One last note from The New York Times, which I mentioned,
which was the first to report that Vanity Fair was
reviewing its relationship with Olivia News. I'll bet it is like,
let's review how many people here should be fired because
we hired Olivia Newsy without knowing that this is a
serial thing and she has no value to us whatsoever,
(53:34):
except possibly as a model if we can find her eyebrows.
Is the Times reviewing its fawning profile of her a
week ago today, in which Carl Bernstein's son missed every
single news story that has dominated one corner of the
news business since I mean, frankly, sir, you are over
(53:58):
two hundred and sixteen their story after story after story,
even if you're just doing what The Times is now doing,
which is what I'm doing to some degree, aggregating and
commenting on what this guy keeps putting on his substack
eight dollars. Anyway, in the Times piece, which, as I said,
nobody actually read because within three hours it was all
(54:20):
Part two is up. It's all about Robert F. Kennedy
and his rules about oral sex. Notice I skipped that anyway.
I was in the Times article. I was quoted describing
my relationship with her with the rings, with the dogs,
with the tattoos as marriage e. It's not an elegant word,
(54:42):
but it was apt, and in fact I was quoting Olivia.
That was her word, what kind of marriage ee? This
is the quote that they got from her. She actually
responded to this. Ms Noozy apparently does not consider her
relationship with mister Olderman to have been marriage ye quote.
I have not ever before and will not now acknowledge
any claims made by this person, she wrote in a text.
(55:05):
By the way, this sums her all up. I have
not ever before and will not now acknowledge any claims
made by this person, she wrote in a text which
was in itself an acknowledgment of claims made by this person,
self defeating a little bit here, damn. Also, I will
not acknowledge any claims man by this person. Not acknowledged
(55:29):
the five hundred five thousand who knows photos and videos
I never counted them of me with this person, or
with this person and our dogs, or with this person
and our tattoos as we got them, or with this
person at events we went to, or the thousands of emails,
(55:51):
or the list of this person's friends that we dined
with and I got to meet, or a group of
this person's friends whom she called up after the breakup,
insisting that she hadn't broken up with them and she
wanted to stay friends, particularly the ones who had political
connections or television connections, how odd, occasionally calling them later
(56:11):
as sources for her stories. I will not now acknowledge
any claims lal Olivia, who may have peaked psychologically at
twenty or maybe when she was writing the Livy copy
about the pop music who Knows, I expect her to
now issue a statement reading I have not ever before
(56:33):
and will not now acknowledge that my journalism and writing
careers are over, even though they sure as f R
(57:05):
believe it or not. There are still more new idiots
to talk about before I go the roundup of the miscrants,
morons and Dunning Krueger effects specimens who constitute today's other
worst persons in the world. Runner up an unnamed rooky
Chicago cop, and I would like to, if you'll permit me,
(57:26):
read this from the Chicago Sun Times in my bad
impression of Walter Cronkite Ready, the probationary Chicago cop accidentally
shot himself in the groin Wednesday night because he headed
into work at the Gresham District Station. Land twenty two.
Was in the parking lot of the station seventy eighth
(57:46):
eight South Halstead Street when the firearm in his waistband
went off around ten oh five pm and grazed him
in the groin. Police said he was quote wearing street
clothes and heading for duty when the gun discharged, and
he accidentally shot himself in the testicles. According to Office
(58:07):
of Emergency Management and Communication records obtained by The Sun Times,
an officer in distress call you bet was made around
the time of the shooting. He was taken to the
University of Chicago Medical Center and was listed in good condition.
Lea said, the news apparently official. He shot himself in
(58:28):
the testables. That's the way it is. Monday, November twenty fourth,
twenty twenty five, Walter Cronkite CBS News, speaking of CBS
News the runner up these Ellison assholes. The idea of
them buying CNN and merging it into CBS is real
enough that they are offering to essentially shoot CNN anchors.
(58:52):
The White House doesn't like if Trump will let them
buy the company that owns CNN and merge CNN into
CBS News. From The Guardian, senior White House officials have
discussed internally their preference for Paramount sky Dance. Those are
the Ellisons to acquire Warner Bros. Discovery. One official has
(59:13):
discussed potential programming changes at CNN with Larry Ellison. According
to people familiar, they come as Paramount portrays itself as
the best bid blah blah blah, because it'd be easier
to get through regulatory review. Ellison often speaks to connections
at the White House and in at least one phone call,
according to the Guardian's Hugo Lowell engaged in a dialogue
(59:36):
about possibly axing some of the CNN hosts whom Donald
Trump is said to loathe, including Aaron Burnett and Brianna Keeler.
The people said, now, I have no use for Aaron Burnett, who,
if you remember, on her first day as a news anchor,
after years doing business on CNBC, went on the air
(59:58):
during the time of Occupy Wall Street and went to
Wall Street and had herself videotaped sitting on Wall Street
and saying, oh, look, I'm occupying Wall Street and mocked
the entire concept of it, and thought she would get
some sort of Emmy award for it, or perhaps a
lifetime Emmy award for it. I have no use for
her none. I have previously called for Brianna Keeler to
(01:00:23):
be fired because she was serving the Trump interests. But
this is something else. This is now advanced to the
stage in which the White House would get to essentially
pick the personnel lineup for primetime and other times on CNN.
We have entered into a period of time in which
(01:00:43):
the best thing that could happen for CNN, and maybe
at this point for CBS News is for it to
be sold for scrap, sell the cameras to some country
that actually does the news, like Ecuador, and yet trying
to get rid of all these terrible anchors at White
(01:01:05):
House request. Jake Tapper is somehow safe. Jake Tapper tweeted
after a woman reporter asked about President Trump's name being
raised an email sent by convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein.
Trump snaps at her quiet piggy Jenna Ellis, remember her
the least competent besides the Kraken woman of all of
(01:01:26):
Trump's twenty twenty deniers. Jenna Ellis, assistant to Rudy Giuliani.
My god, actually retweeted this, then deleted. It isn't the
reporter's name, Peggy. Come on, Jake, at least pretend harder
to be a journalist. Yeah. I heard that too. To
(01:01:48):
be fair, On the other hand, I didn't tweet it
or say it on the air. You know, search engines
are our friend, Peggy. Peggy Ellis, Catherine Lucy was her name.
It's close close, Jenna Ellis close, speaking of close our
winners Catterird and Laura Fruitcake of the Lumer They are
(01:02:12):
not happy no matter how much Trump is happy. They
are not happy with Mayor Elect Mamdani. They are not happy.
Polymarket put out a tweet which was designed to get
exactly this response. Somebody pointed it out it was an
IQ test and guess who didn't pass. The tweet was
breaking Zora and Mamdani to require all New York elementary
(01:02:35):
school students to learn Arabic numerals. Catterd responded, that's not
far enough. He should make every school kid in New
York only speak Arabic, no English. The insane liberal Karens
voted for this complete nut. Let them reap what they sow.
(01:02:57):
And Laura Lumer, you know things are bad when you
can't tell if this is real or a joke. Dear God,
it's real, isn't it now? Laura Lumer is a child
who wears a lot of makeup, so she can perhaps
be excused for being this stupid for not knowing what
Arabic numerals are. But this guy cat Turd is in
(01:03:19):
like his like in his nineties, or he's one hundred
and ten or something. He should have found out by now,
even with the background that he has, that Arabic numerals
are one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight nine.
I believe the zero originates elsewhere, but one through nine
are Arabic numerals. Somebody added worse than all this, Madady
(01:03:49):
is also going to make sure that the City of
New York teaches non binary numbers. Lomer and cat turd
morons today's other worst persons in the world. Once again,
(01:04:32):
how could you just before you do that, how could
you not check to see if you're being set up
right next to wherever your Twitter is or your ex
or your Blue Sky or your Blue Chew or whatever
it is you're using. Isn't there another button that allows
you to search the internet? Couldn't you just search quote
(01:04:55):
mark Arabic numerals.
Speaker 3 (01:04:59):
Unquote just to see how much time does it add?
How much time does it take away from your rage
against the liberal bastards who are trying to institute Sharia
shania law. They want Shania law in this country.
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scheduled end of his lame duck. It's official lame duck
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Jeffrey Epstein for the next mystery MRI or Tail and
All or somebody named Peggy, or if he quits to
become a member of the staff of Mayor elect Zora
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