TODAY IS A GOOD DAY TO CONVICT DONALD TRUMP - 5.28.24 - Countdown with Keith Olbermann

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio. Today
would be a good day to convict Donald J. Trump.

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The jury in his Stormy Daniel's hush money election interference
case may get the case as soon as this afternoon,
and then they could deliver the only verdict not materially
interfered with by a judge or judges that Trump himself appointed.
The country the world keeps emphasizing, in succession, the unprecedented

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nature of Trump's indictment, of his arrest, of his arraignment,
of the mugshot, the trial, the artists sketches, the jury selection,
the defense, the witnesses, the objections, the fart naps, and
today the unprecedented nature of the closing statements. But for
some reason they leave out the other unprecedented reality that

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our court system is rigged, that it is rigged by Trump.
For Trump, with three justices he put on the Supreme
Court until they die or resign, delaying and subverting justice
in those cases, and an unqualified former yoga correspondent for
the Miami Nuevo Herald he appointed to federal court brazenly

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and openly stalling and trying to sabotage the espionage case
against him in that court. That is what is unprecedented
about the prosecution of Donald Trump. That his appointees are
interfering with the attempts to bring him to justice. And
we may never know if he appointed them only on

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the assurance that they would do exactly what they are
doing now when and if it came to this. And
what Trump means when he says the New York District
Attorney Alvin Bragg's office and Justice Juan Merschan's courtroom are
rigged against him, what he means is they are rigged
against him because they are not rigged for him. And yes,

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back to my first comment, I know that every day
is a good day to convict Donald J. Trump. This, however,
is the only one we're going to get for a
while because Judge Cannon, Justice Barrett, Justice Gorsic, and Justice
Kavanaugh might as well have offices in Trump Tower, oh

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and Justice Alito and missus Alito, flag connoisseur and flag
pole expert, and much more about them. Presently, verdict would
be really unlikely today, but there seems to be a
belief that closing statements could easily be finished off before
court adjourns and realistically, we might get a verdict tomorrow,

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especially if one or more jurors bibbed and acted and
performed and sneaked onto the jury even though they intended
to decide this case purely on the politics. I might
add four or against, because remember, if Trump is convicted
of anything, especially if it happens fast, he and his
cult will insist that's what happened. The option from the

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other end of the spectrum that somebody made the proverbial
buttoned up lip gesture in the mirror and then talked
their way past the prosecutors and the judge, and they've
just been waiting to start voting not guilty, not guilty,
not guilty until the other jurors give up. That is
far more likely, because it only takes one to do that.

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Although this is the right moment to remind you that
the four person duror B four hundred is not necessarily
a Fox News viewer, even though that was widely reported
during jury selection. He said during jury selection that he
reads the New York Times and the Daily Mail. He's
originally from Ireland. I guess that makes sense, And then

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he said he gets the rest of his news from
MSNBC and Fox, and a reminder again that here in
New York City, Fox has owned its own station and
has since March nineteen eighty six aired programs called Fox
five News. They've never been liberal or anything, but they
did have the presence of mind to fire the infamous

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Greg Kelly, now of Newsmax and Frankly, in New York,
the Fox five brand is literally a decade older than
the Fox News brand. A New Yorker says he gets
his news from Fox, he just as likely means the
local station. Also, not to bore you with unqualified analysis
about what the closing statements will punch or what the

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jurors will decide with. I mean, we can all guess
what Trump's nut job lawyers are going to say if
we can still hear them over his snoring and his gas.
But actual experts seem to have built a consensus around
five essential legal issues for the jury. Fact Issue Number one,
Will the jurors believe Michael Cohen's version of events and

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his core point, Sure, I lied. I lied for Trump.
He paid me to lie, especially since the only counter
witness to that, Cohen's sorta kind of ex attorney, self
immolated on the stand. Fact issue number two. Did Trump
pay Stormy Daniels one hundred and thirty thousand dollars to

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keep quiet about the sex they had? Or did he
pay Stormy Daniels one hundred thirty thousand dollars to keep
her from spreading a lie about sex they did not have?
Fact issue number three not what was Trump paying about?
But why was he paying? Did they prove he was

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paying to make sure voters didn't know Stormy Daniels' story
true or false before the election or was that some
sort of coincidence? Fact issue number four, The payoffs were
they made by Trump the company or Trump the private
amateur scumbag. It is a distinction without a difference, obviously,

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But if somebody on the jury buys the defense theory
that these were private payments by dickwad J. Trump and
not payments from his corrupt company, they could talk themselves
into an excuse to acquit. In fact issue number last,
you pay Cohen, you call it a retainer and a

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legal expense. He's a lawyer, he's doing legal related stuff.
But if the legal related stuff is itself illegal and
it's not a retainer because he didn't keep the money,
and you had both agreed in advance to cover it
up and call it a retainer. You actually completely and
utterly falsified the records, didn't you. With one last reminder

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offered at face value only, there seems to be one
other consensus forming among lawyers and jury watchers and trial experts,
and it's this The reason Justice Juan Marshan has said
nothing about defendant Jay Trump's last ten or so violations
of the gag order as opposed to his first ten
or so violations of the gag order is that he

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is in fact planning to tack time onto whatever sentence
results from the actual prosecution take care of the bill.
Then again, justice theory, but a useful one which might
explain why Marshan has bent himself over so far backwards.

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Today would be a good day to convict Donald J. Trump.
There are a lot of possible responses to Israel bombing
the refugee tenth it forced Palestinians into in Rafa. One
would hope there has been an off the record message

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to the others in the Israeli government from ours Netanyahu goes,
in fact, turn them over to the international Court and
stop trying to make the way the Nazis conducted war
the way you conduct war, or the United States cuts
off all support on say Monday, And there are a
lot of responses to congresswomen Talib and other Democrats and

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progressives threatening President Biden because that has not happened yet
or has not happened publicly. But maybe this response will suffice.
Quote one thing I do is Trump told a room
full of donors in New York two weeks ago. Tonight,
per the Washington Post, any student that protests, I throw

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them out of the country. You know, there are a
lot of foreign students. As soon as they hear that,
they're going to behave it's a radical revolution. It has
to be stopped.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
Now.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
If you get me elected, we're going to set that
movement back twenty five or thirty years. As always, with
a mentally declining psychotic like Trump, it's impossible to differentiate
the breadth of the threats from the pathology of his illnesses.
He clearly threatened to expel foreign students protesting against Israel.

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I suppose he doesn't say that just protesting, but he
also threatened to expel American students protesting. He said, quote
any student that protests, I throw them out of the country.
This goes right to the essence of a point I've
been making since twenty sixteen, and that was reemphasized spectacularly

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over the weekend by my friend since childhood, Will Bunch
that all of Trump's plans after seizing power involve actually
deploying the American mililitary against American civilians. Will's point, mine
in a piece I did for the BBC literally eight
years ago, was that to round up millions of immigrants,

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you not only have to have concentration camps, but you
also have to have large masses of armed men to
suppress protests. Because guess what, when Trump says get out,
millions of people are not simply going to line up
and start marching towards the nearest border. Same for students,

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same for students protesting the Middle East in any direction,
Same for civilians protesting mass deportations of immigrants. Trump's solution
is simple, shoot and kill them. Have the military shoot
and kill them. And that moment, we are living in
a military dictatorship. So when you hear about the Insurrection

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Act and mass deportations and any student that protests, I
throw them out of the country, remember that you are
actually hearing about the gentle mild surface of Trump's plans,
and that beneath that gentle mild surface are piles of
dead American citizens in every city and state in this country.

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Before we get to some much needed comic relief, it
was nice to know that Memorial Day yesterday was about Trump,
like last Christmas was about Trump, like Easter was about Trump,
like Mother's Day was about Trump. I suppose it is
encouraging that we can still summon both surprise and disgust
at his message, the one yesterday that began entirely inappropriately

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and then went straight to hell from there. Happy Memorial
Day to all, he wrote, unaware it was a day
for remembering others, but of course in his world there
are no others, including the human scum that is working
so hard to droi our once great country. And then
he smeared a woman that he assaulted and another woman

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he had to pay off, and he attacked a judge,
and he seemed to throw a homophobic smear at Anderson
Cooper and ended with a seeming threat against the judge
in the case that presumably goes to the jury today.
Quote Now, for Mayor Shaan, here is a follow up
on Trump's evil, nefarious promised that Putin will not release

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Evan Gershkovich of The Wall Street Journal until and unless
Trump is elected. Bluntly, that at best makes Trump an
accessory to an international kidnapping, to say nothing of proving
that Trump has been providing aid and comfort to our enemies,
which is the legal definition of treason. And no, I
am not expecting Biden five months and a week till

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the election to suddenly prosecute him for treason, although I
don't see as many downsides to that as the politicians
might thing to do. And what a surprise it's. Another
suggestion from Brian Boutler is for Biden to release publicly,
one way or the other, every last goddamned piece of

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intel about Trump's active conspiracies with Putin and other foreign leaders,
just the ones in progress as we speak. Hold a
news conference, have a Senate Committee conduct to hearing, having
the head of Homeland and the CIA and anybody else
who has the time to show up. Just throw it
all out there, or parcel it out a little bit

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at a time, week after week. Oh and see if
there's anything in there about his United Reich video or
Unified Reich video and the other fascist violence propaganda that
Trump distributes, and whether or not it is being produced
or promulgated by other countries. This is no time to

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get weak at the knee over protocols and niceties. Trump
is a foreign agent. He is trying to take over
this country and end its democracy and use its military
to then kill his political opponents in the streets in
front of their homes. This is the war he chose.

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Let us make sure that at its end there is
no further trace of him. And no, that was not
the comic relief. This is the comic relief. If you
tried to take the weekend off from all this, you
missed Trump getting his come uppance, not a big come uppance. Remember,

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we are aiming for making sure that at its end
there is no trace of him. But he got booed
and humiliated and denied and nonplussed, and did I mention
he got booed in public, and crazier than all that,
crazier than imaginable, we are left in the impossible to
predict position of having to thank the people who did

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it to him. The delegates to the presidential nominating Convention
of the Libertarian Party.

Speaker 3 (15:28):
Now I think you should nominate me or at least
vote for me, and we should win together. You heard
those words nominate me or vote vote for me, because
the Libertarians want to vote for me, and most of

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them will.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
That's nige, that snid. Only if you want to win,
only if you want to win.

Speaker 4 (16:10):
Maybe you don't want to win, Maybe you don't want
to win.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
Thank you, dear Roy, Thank you. No, only do that
if you want to win. If you want to lose,
don't do that.

Speaker 3 (16:24):
Keep getting you three percent every four years. Just some
of the things that make me a libertarian without even
trying to be one.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
That's night.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
Trump shortly thereafter claimed he had never sought the Libertarian nomination.
He claimed Republican party rules deny him the option of
accepting the nomination of other parties. This, in political language
is what is called a lie. He only revealed this
after repeatedly asking them to nominate him, then getting six votes,

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then getting ruled ineligible by the Libertarians, who then cast
all of twenty two votes for Rkjor and disqualified him,
and then took eight hours to nominate the guy who
took two percent of the Georgia Senate vote two years ago,
forcing the Raphael Warnock herschel Walker runoff. And if that
was not comic relief enough, you may have noticed, as

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I did, that Trump's aphasia or dementia or cte or
all of the above is now bad enough that he
literally could not form the word libertarian at the Libertarian convention.
He kept saying libertarian, liber liber liber like it was

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a new form of Libya. Well, hell, maybe he can
get the nomination in Libya. And now to the breaking
news that you may have already heard, the flash apparently official,
there have been no new reports of insurrectionist flags flown
at any of Justice Alito's homes. Stunning, Okay, seriously, not

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quite as stunning as the Washington Post trying to spin
the fact that yeah, yeah, yeah, we had the story
of that first flag, the upside down American flag appropriated
by the Stop the Steel paramilitary gang. We had that
story that it was flying at the Alito's home and Alexandria, Virginia,
between Trump's coup attempt on January sixth, twenty twenty one

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and Biden's inauguration on January twentieth, twenty twenty one. But
we buried it. We chose not to run it, because
everybody decided Missus Martha and Alito. She put up the flag,
not Justice Alito, as if that was the message. The
flag conveyed Alito's house, Alito's flagpole, Alito's flag, alito flag,

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run up the Alito flagpole to see who would salute. Oh,
it's that wacky Missus Alito added again. And of course
Missus Alito has no possible connection to her own husband
and the fact that he's on the you know, Supreme
Court thingy, what utter disqualifying dereliction of duty by the

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Washington Post, which finally reported the story, having sat on
it for one thousand, two hundred and twenty two days,
having sat on it so long that the Supreme Court
reporter who originally found it has already retired, having sat
on it so long that nobody is asking now whether
the people actually made the editorial decision not to run it,

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or the paper was pressured internally or externally not to
run it. Now they're running it as if they are
somehow adding value to the story. By the way, it
took them another nine days after The New York Times
broke the story to decide whether or not to run
their own story that they had two hundred and twenty

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two days previously, and they're trying to sell it as
if they're reporting something that their readers should be happy
to see or proud of them more, and not the
fact that it rivals Their associate editor, Bob Woodwards equally
journalistically corrupt decision to sit on the tapes he got
of Trump in February twenty twenty, in which Trump accurately

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foretold how truly nightmarish COVID would be and how fatally
Trump was intending to lie about it. I'll save this
for my book to quote its own story. This just
in Three years later, the Post reporter quote went to
the Alito's home to follow up on the tip about

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the flag. He encountered the couple coming out of the house.
Martha an Alito, was visibly upset by his presence, demanding
that he get off my property. As he described the
information he was seeking, she yelled, it's an international signal
of distress. Alito intervened and directed his wife into a

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car parked in their driveway, where they had been headed
on their way out of the neighborhood. The justice denied
the flag was hung upside down as a political protest,
saying it stemmed from a neighborhood dispute and indicating that
his wife had raised it. Martha an Alito then got
out of the car and shouted an apparent reference to

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the neighbors. Ask them what they did, She said, yard
signs about the couple had been placed in the neighborhood.
After getting back in the car, she exited again and
then brought out from their residence a novelty flag, the
type that would typically decorate a garden. She hoisted it

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up the flagpole. There is that better, she yelled. So
so so, not only was there an insurrectionist symbol hanging
from a Supreme Court justice's home, and again, this is
two weeks to the day after Trump tried to end

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American democracy and exactly the same day we finally got
Biden safely inaugurated. Not only not only was there this
flag and the Washington Post knew about it, and clearly,
though he would later deny knowing anything about it, Justice
Alito on January twentieth, twenty twenty one, he knew all
about why it was there, and it was hanging there still.

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But then there was this confrontation with Missus Justice Alito,
who is either nuts or impaired and nuts, or is
herself an insurrectionist, or is taking the fall for her husband,
or he the Supreme Court justice, is covering up for her,
and the Post says, Nope, Mope, mope, so you're here.

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I agreed with Supreme Court reporter Bob Barnes and others
that we should not do a single slice story about
the flag because it seemed like the story was about
Martha and Alito and not her husband. That is Semaphore News,
quoting the former Post senior managing editor Cameron Barr Bar coincidence, coincidence.

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Cameron Barr says this was his bad call, quoting again instead,
Bar said he suggested a story on the bitter neighborhood
dispute that Alito told them had prompted his wife to
raise the flag. They would use the flag itself, he thought,
as a detail in the story, but that story never
took shape. In retrospect, I should have pushed harder for

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that story, Barr said in a phone interview with Semaphore Sunday.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
I think.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
You get a tip on or just before Inauguration day,
after an attempted coup that a Supreme Court justice, who
has skipped the inauguration, by the way, is waving an
insurrection flag over to his house. You go, he's there,

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You talk to him. His wife threatens you, loses her
shit and starts saying stuff like ask them what they
did and even there is that better? And even though
they both insist this was just a neighborhood spat, she says,
it's an international signal distress. And you you.

Speaker 4 (24:49):
You bury the story. Alito, I I am, I am
wait wait wait wait I I I Alito, Oh I
I Alito.

Speaker 5 (25:09):
Oh, Nancy, I ya, these are the flags of Alito insurrection.
Appeal to heaven, Sam did Noah damn thing?

Speaker 2 (25:24):
Why don't you ask them what they did?

Speaker 5 (25:27):
I y y I am Martha and Alito, it's my flag,
It's my world.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
I deny you access.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
It's an international signal love distress. Thank you, Nancy Faust.
Also of interest here on this all new edition of
Countdown in memory of perhaps the most beloved man in
all of sports, Bill Walton, and so did Trump's father

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once go up to one of his neighbors in Florida
and start praising Hitler. That's what they had on c
Span the other day. That's next. This is Countdown.

Speaker 2 (26:19):
This is Countdown with Keith Oberman.

Speaker 6 (26:33):
This is Sports Center. Wait, check that not anymore. This
is Countdown with Keith Olberman.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
And it's the Sports Central centered news desks sports News tonight.
He would certainly be upset with all of us being
this sad. Nobody loved playing his sport, Nobody loved being
a sportscaster life more than Bill Walton. His life ended

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yesterday of cancer at the age of seventy one. Outside
of his family, it seemed few of even those closest
to him were where he was that sick. Until last week.
Bill Walton was probably the most skilled center in basketball history. Injuries,
particularly and impossible to believe rash of stress fractures limited

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him to only three NBA seasons in which he played
more than fifty eight games. In four seasons he couldn't
play at all in the other ten. He won two
league championships, one MVP award, he finished second in the
MVP in another year, and at the age of thirty three,
he won the award for sixth Man of the Year

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Best Substitute. He centered the National champions at UCLA in
two of his three seasons. There, and as he entered
the NBA, it was conceded he was probably going to
eclipse Abdul Jabbar, Bill Russell, all of them. His feet
would not cooperate. Bill Walton finally retired at age thirty
five and went into broadcasting, where he was utterly unpredictable,

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utterly delighted, utterly off the wall, NBA college, local, national,
some Chicago White Sox games, didn't matter what it was.
And everybody is heartbroken because yes, all that's true, but
more because everybody in sports, it seems, had met him,
and everybody he did meet had a story about Bill

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Walton's kindness, generosity, fun and especially his support. I got
to Los Angeles and started working as a local sportscaster there.
On the morning of Labor Day, September two, nineteen eighty five,
I was in a state of complete disoriented shock, like
a permanent jet lag, and somebody decided that I should

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begin my career at KTLA by getting up at like
seven o'clock in the morning and covering a bicycle race,
a professional bicycle race on the streets of Beverly Hills.
As if anybody watching a local newscast in LA, or
if anybody debuting as a sportscaster in LA wanted bicycle highlights,

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or as if we could possibly shoot enough highlights to
make it even vaguely interesting, or tell who won. Well,
it was day one, so I was still cooperating with management.
We set up on Rodeo Drive amid a pretty good
crowd for a holiday morning. I had just tested my
microphone and I was wondering why it was not as

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if anybody was going to show up whom my audience
would want me to interview, when a door opened behind
me and outstepped a man with bright, curly red hair,
six feet eleven inches tall, an unmistakable face, Bill Walton
of the Los Angeles Clippers. As he later told me,
he'd just gotten the call from his agent that he

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was about to be traded to the Boston Celtics and
he was going to go out now to buy tape
to wrap his packing boxes in. I knew I had
to see if he would comment on this weird scene
playing out in front of us, and I started to
approach him when he looked at me, stopped and stared
and said, Hey, you're that CNN guy Channel eleven just hired.

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And I said Channel five, and he said whatever, and
he then gave me a fantastic interview about this bicycle
race and who was in it, and he knew the
names of some of the competitors and how much he
enjoyed it and never missed it, and welcome to town
and good luck, and then off he went, signing a
few autographs as he did. A couple of minutes later,
another door opens and it's a man named Richard Blackwell,

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hugely famous then fashion designer, writer, searingly obnoxious critic of
women's dresses. Mister Blackwell. Now he comes over to me
and he asks me what's going on, and we then
roll tape and I explain it to him on camera
and he says, a race in Beverly Hills. What do
they win the street? Now, I say to my producer,

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we got mister Blackwell and Bill Walton. We could stand
here for five years. We can never get anything better
than these two guys. Let's go home now. Two years later,
I saw Bill Walton at the NBA Finals in Boston
and I go up to say hi, and he says,
you put me and mister Blackwell in that bicycle race story.

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I don't think I saw Bill Walton in person more
than two or three times again in my life. But
I got letters and later emails from him, and voicemails
and phone calls and just hellos that he sent through
his play by play buddies encouraged me to keep doing it. Sports, news, politics, whatever.
Everybody mourning Bill Walton today is not just mourning a

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friend close or distant, a friend for decades or a
friend for just today, decades ago. They are mourning the
chairman of their own fan club. I've never known anybody
who enjoyed your success for you more than Bill Walton did,

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nor who tried to encourage you to keep doing it.

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Still ahead of us on this all new edition of Countdown.
I graduated from college forty five years ago today, meaning
it's nearly forty five years now that I've had the
same recurring dream, the one in which I don't graduate
from college forty five years ago today. Since I was
taking twenty eight credits ten classes in my last semester,

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there was a reason for this. But the weird thing is,
for decades it was a standard stress dream, but then
it turned into something entirely different. Next in things I
promised not to tell, but first. As ever, there are
still new more idiots to talk about. The daily roundup
of the mis grants, morons and Dunning Kruger effects specimens,

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who constitute two days worst persons in the world, the
bronze worse. Whoever is running the campaign of Prime Minister
Rishi Sunach in the UK's snap parliamentary election on July fourth,
I'm thinking, whoever that is they want Sunak to lose.

(33:44):
You may remember that as he stepped out of ten
Downing Street to announce the election and begin his campaign,
it began to rain on him, pouring drenching rain. No canopy,
no umbrella, no towel, just him and puddles of water
on his coat. And it's gone downhill for there. One

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of Sunak's first campaign stops was the Belfast Dockyards, from
which they launched Titanic. They let him announce that if
he's returned to office, he'll establish mandatory national service for
eighteen year olds. In another word, he wants to reinstitute
the military draft. They let him be questioned by two
workers at a factory, and then reporters went to get

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the names of the workers, and it turned out the
workers they were not workers. They were local city councilors
from his own party. They took him to Wales, where
he asked local Wales voters if they were looking forward
to Wales playing in the twenty twenty four Euro Soccer Tournament,
except Whales did not qualify for the twenty twenty four
Euro Soccer Tournament. They let him be photographed at a

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supermarket called Morrison's with his head plays perfectly where it
would obscure the R, the I and the S, so
his head in these pictures is framed by.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
The word moron.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
And now they've let him be photographed on a private
jet with his head framed by big signs reading exit.
The campaign is not yet a week old. The Bronx
worser Nick Fuentes, there's a lot to hate here. He's
a racist, he's an anti semini semit, he's a misogynist.

(35:23):
He has a smirk that makes the non violent want
to slap it off his face. But his worst quality
is his utter self unawareness. Nick Fuentes is trying to
enforce ethnic cleansing, racial purity on the Trump fascists Because
to Nick Fuentes, jd Vance Trump sickophant. Jd Vance Senator

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of Ohio. Jd Vance is not white enough.

Speaker 7 (35:51):
Jd Vance also has a non white wife, an Indian wife,
and a kid named Vivek. All his kids have Indian names,
So it's like, what exactly are we getting? And that's
not a dig at him just because I'm a racist
or something, but it's like, who is this guy?

Speaker 2 (36:10):
Really?

Speaker 7 (36:10):
Do we really expect that the guy who has an
Indian wife and name their kid Vivek is going to
support white identity?

Speaker 1 (36:17):
It will never occur to Nick Fuentes unless Trump triumphs
and we go fascist. It will never occur to him
until they are literally dragging him off by his feet.
That all his enabling of the virulence and the violence
will mean nothing in his own defense. That sooner or
later the Trumpists will look at him and look at
his name, and they'll say, Fuentes, what makes you all

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think we think you are white? And then they'll drag
him off by his feet. But our winner, the worst,
Fred Trump. It's father we already know. He was arrested
during a public fight in Queens on Memorial Day of
nineteen twenty seven, a fight during a ku Klux Klan

(36:59):
March seven. Arrested at the ku klux Klan March. They
gave Fred Trump's address in the newspaper, but they did
not say whether he was fighting for the KKK or
against it, though the evidence suggests he was part of
the clan march. And see if this sounds familiar, the
clan passed around a flyer that read, liberty and democracy

(37:22):
have been trampled upon when native born protest Americans dare
to organize to protect one flag, the American flag, one school,
the public school, and one language, the English language, so
that we already knew about.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
Then.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
This happened on Washington Journal on c SPAN on Friday morning,
and the topic was your view of Trump's rhetoric. And
I don't know who this is, And they didn't say
it on c SPAN because you don't have to give
your name, and I don't know if he's lying. I
only know c SPAN followed up on this by doing
absolutely nothing about it.

Speaker 8 (37:59):
But here you go, next, good money. Unless I just
want to refer that I'm a ninety two year old man,
and I will. I remember when Trump's father was in
our village and talked to me. I personally, he was
really a fan of Hitler. He'd said that dictatorship is

(38:21):
not as bad as people think. He says, one man
rule is better than having too many people trying to
bring their opinion up. And that was the same thing
his son days. He believes that dictatorship is the best
thing for this country. And sooner or later you're going
to wake up and believe when he becomes president, he'll
become a dictator. So America be aware, and I'll say

(38:45):
goodbye to America. Hello.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
Kind of amazing, really, Fred Trump, the nut does not
fall far from the tree. Two days, Where's Where's Sudden?
And May twenty eighth, two thousand, twenty four. I did

(39:24):
not have the dream last night, but every other time
I've had the dream, it's been May twenty eighth, but
not twenty twenty four. May twenty eighth, nineteen seventy nine,
to the number one story on the countdown in this
all new edition. And my only recurring dream of my life,

(39:49):
but I've had it a thousand times, two thousand times.
In the only recurring dream of my life, which I
have had a thousand times or two thousand times, it
is always the morning of May twenty eighth, nineteen seventy nine.

(40:10):
Always it doesn't vary. Every other detail of the dream varies, updates,
adds in new details, adds in new life experiences, throws
in additional twists, seems more nightmarish, sometimes more annoying, sometimes
more comical, and lately more enjoyable. It's a very strange,

(40:36):
recurring dream, and it's always about the morning of May
twenty eighth, nineteen seventy nine, graduation day at Cornell University,
and starting sometime that summer June, maybe certainly by the

(40:56):
end of that summer, I began to have this dream,
not more than once a once a week on average,
and usually under conditions of great pressure. And the dream
is not that complicated, although as I say, it updates
so that a version of the dream in nineteen seventy

(41:17):
nine would have been significantly different than the last time
I had the dream, probably earlier this year because the
frequency has fallen off. As I'll explain later, it's not
a violent dream. There are no monsters. There's just pressure
and stress, and it's always the same thing. And it

(41:37):
literally took me more than forty two forty three years
to figure out what was at the heart of it,
and for much of that time I had the assistance
of a professional. And this was not some sort of
crisis in which my life was being affected by this.
But it was just this same dream again and again
and again, and it got so ordinary that in it
sometimes characters would say to me, write this part down.

(42:00):
It's new. It's graduation morning. I am unexpectedly and delightfully
expected to graduate on time at Cornell University, even though
I missed an entire semester and had to cram literally
twenty eight credits into my last semester at the school

(42:23):
and pass all of my courses. I think it was
ten different courses. That includes one credit for being an
intern at a television station in New York the previous summer,
and an independent research program about comparing means of gathering
news at that station and my college radio station and

(42:43):
a news organization I worked for briefly in nineteen seventy eight.
There were a couple of one credit courses in there,
but there were at least seven classes that met and
I occasionally went to them. And I am to graduate,
and my parents are already at the arena, or in
this case, the field, Shellkoff Field, the football stadium at Cornell.

(43:05):
They're already there, and it's ten o'clock in the morning,
eleven o'clock in the morning, and somehow the phone rings
in my apartment. It's always the same place, two hundred
and seven Delaware Avenue, Ithica, New York, the ground floor
apartment in the old house there, with a very nice porch,
very nice place, all things considered. Bathroom was a little small.

(43:28):
You could sit in the bathroom and reach out and
answer the phone out in the living room. That's how
small the bathroom was. In any event, it's always that morning.
The light is exactly the same every time coming through
the window, and the phone wakes me up, and it's
the registrar's office or somebody else at Cornell. These details

(43:53):
are usually just skated by, and they're telling me that I,
in fact have not graduated. But I still can provided
I read five hundred pages of a book a history
book by noon, or submit a twenty five page paper
by noon, or take seven final exams by noon, or

(44:18):
attend twenty five sections of a biology class by noon.
It is the standard, and I know other people who've
had it, the standard non graduation dream. But the thing
about this dream is, as I say, it is always updated,
so that since It is clear to me the moment

(44:38):
that request comes in that I have to take seven
final exams by noon and it's already ten o'clock and
they each take an hour, and there's no way I'm
going to graduate on time. I'm going to have to
spend the summer going to summer school at Corneilla University.
And thus the jobs I have lined up, the job
prospects that in fact produced the job within a month
of my graduation, they're all going to go away because

(45:00):
I have to stay there to graduate. When it gets
more pressure filled, I in fact have to go back
and redo the entirety of my senior year at Cornell.
So now it's not the question of one course not
being completed or two or three, it's the entire year.
It's forty two credits. It's like a year and a

(45:21):
half's worth of school. There have been occasions where I've
had this dream where I am somehow both at Cornell
University and on ESPN, and I have to quit the
job at ESPN to go back to the start of
my collegiate career. So it's no longer just I have

(45:41):
to redo my senior year. I have to quit a
job and finish school and go back to the beginning.
I have to become a freshman again, because it's graduation
morning and I have not in fact graduated, even though
they have told me I was going to, and my
parents and my sister are sitting out there. The worst
one I ever had was in the waning days at MSNBC,

(46:04):
when I knew I could not do that show any longer,
and that they had violated my contract in so many
different ways that I could have spent the rest of
my life suing them multiple times for breach of contract,
or I could simply take the money and get out
and try to do it somewhere else, which is what
I did. But at the worst of that at MSNBC,

(46:26):
I woke up from this dream doing one of these.
Because in the dream, not only was I at MSNBC
doing countdown and on graduation day at Cornell on May
twenty eighth, nineteen seventy nine, not only were these things
happening simultaneously, but because I had not and I think
in this case, there was some class that I had
successfully dropped, only they decided in retrospect I had failed

(46:49):
to drop the course. Therefore I had failed the course.
Therefore I had two more credits to it. Whatever it was,
I now had to quit the MSNBC job and go back,
not to the start of my college career, not to
the start of high school, but I had to resume
my education and do it all over again as a
twenty year old, beginning in the third grade. And the

(47:12):
dream ended with me walking into my third grade classroom
and seeing all of my third grade classmates. They certainly
looked like the ones that I was in school with.
Some of them I still know. There was Amy Farber,
there was my friend Pat Sinatra. They were all there,

(47:33):
and they were all kids, and I was an adult.
And the first most terrifying thing, the only true nightmare
of these nightmares or recurring dreams that I ever had,
I had to try to sit as a six foot
four inch adult in one of those school chairs.

Speaker 2 (47:51):
And that's when.

Speaker 1 (47:52):
They shot in the movie that is your nightmare zooms
out and you're a tiny little figure in a big picture,
screaming your head off because you've been stuck into one
of these chairs and you can never get out. So
the dream would constantly update over the decades wherever I
was working. I had to quit that job and go
back to depending on the amount of pressure on me

(48:14):
as far back as the third grade. Sometimes it would
be much easier. Sometimes it would be you forgot to
return these library books. You have to do it by noon,
or you don't graduate. It's like, well, here they are, okay,
you graduate. The reason that the dream had such staying power,
which was easy to figure out even the first time
I had it, was simply this. I did have twenty

(48:37):
eight credits in my last semester at Cornell, very simple process.
I the second half of my freshman year got sick.
It might have been a cold, it might have been mononucleosis.
We never quite figured out. But I didn't really want
to be at Cornell University. In January nineteen seventy six,
I had not had a good time as a freshman,
and I didn't really want to be there, including the

(48:58):
realization that at the age of just turned seventeen, I
really wasn't ready to be there. So I managed to
find a way out, whether it was a true serious
illness or just a cold that I milked. The next
thing I knew, my dad was coming up and rather
unhappily packing me into his car and taking me home.

(49:20):
Which is where I needed to be right then. However,
when it came to be my senior year, and I
had flourished at Cornell University and managed the radio station
and set myself up for this career and actually learned
how to manage my time, because that's what was good
about that university. It taught you that you were, in
fact going to have to punt on several unimportant things,

(49:40):
and you could not get an A plus on everything
in life. So going into my senior year, after my
fall schedule had been completed with the normal load of
fifteen or sixteen hours worth of credits, you know, five courses,
tough ones, couple of history classes, maybe a four credit
course here, maybe it was sixteen, my dad said, And

(50:00):
then I still had forty two credits to go. My
dad said, hey, I'm not paying for anything after next spring.
Have a nice semester. And I was like what he said, Yeah, Yeah,
If you don't graduate on time next spring, I'm not
going to pay for a dime of it, You're on
your own. So that meant that I was starting that

(50:21):
semester with fifteen credits and I needed twenty seven in
the spring. As it worked out, I took twenty eight.
And also because I had missed the second half of
my freshman year, I had all sorts of freshman mandatory
classes that I had to take that I had not taken,

(50:43):
that I had dropped out of, that I was taking
when I had been an actual freshman in nineteen seventy six,
and I being in the College of Agriculture and Life Sciences,
which is where the Communications department was and is at Cornell.
Those were all science classes. So I had to take
a freshman biology, freshman chemistry, freshman physics, and one leftover

(51:06):
freshman English creative writing class. That one was not too
much trouble, but I had other history classes to take.
I had to take literally seven active classes, and I
think maybe it was eight, and there were two independent
study classes. There's a lot of classes, and guess what,

(51:26):
I lost track of a lot of them, and I
double scheduled things because in those pre computer days, there
was no way for them to stop you from registering
for a course that required you to be at a
lab at three o'clock in the afternoon for a science
class and at a section for a history class at
three point thirty in the afternoon. You could do that
who's going to know. I was later told that at

(51:50):
the sections, the discussion sections with the teaching assistant for
the class in biology, which was an environmental class, the
ecology class which I took, because there was no real
lab to adjust papers to write, and I could always
write a paper fast. I knew that I would never
be in that section. I'd never make it because I

(52:10):
had to be at the chemistry lab at exactly the
same time. And they used to when they would hand
the papers back, which I would turn in in various
ways through friends or going right to the teaching assistant's
office and handing the paper in. They would hand the
papers back and they'd get, you know, NETHERI, and NETHERI
would grab his paper, and then they go Oaks, and

(52:32):
Oaks would grab his paper, and then they go Oberman,
and the whole class would erupt in laughter because I
was never there. But I had no other choice. If
I did not take those credits, those twenty eight credits
as a senior, which about was about double the average,
I was not going to have any money coming in,
and I was not going to have a job, and
I was going to have to stay in at the
New York and somehow I was going to have to
make my own living without having a job, and I

(52:55):
did not want to do this. So I remember in
the fall of nineteen seventy eight, facing this, I went
in and submitted my class schedule for the spring of
nineteen seventy nine to my advisor, Professor Russell Martin, who taught,
among other things, parliamentary procedure, which was a surprisingly fun class,

(53:15):
if you can imagine such a thing. And he looked
at this and he went, do you have twenty eight credits?

Speaker 2 (53:21):
Here?

Speaker 1 (53:22):
Professor Martin looked a little like John Connolly, the former
governor of Texas who was with JFK when the Kennedy
assassination occurred. I never stopped thinking about that when I
would sit there and visit with him. And he said,
you know, you can't take twenty eight credits. There's a
university rule against that. The maximum is, I believe eighteen.

(53:43):
I said, no, you're wrong about that. He said, that's right.
I've been here teaching for twenty five years, and you're
going to tell me I'm wrong. I said, well, I
did look at this before I submitted my application for
these classes for the coming semester. So he said, just
hang on, picked up the phone and dialed the College,
the College of Agri Culture and Life Sciences registrar and Hi, Bernice, Yeah,

(54:07):
it's Russ Martin. Listen, I've got a I've got a
student here thinks he can take twenty eight credits in this.
I told him about the about the college's limit on
the Well, what do you mean there's no limit? What
what do you mean there's no limit? Well, of course
there's a limit. There has to be. I've been telling
them there's a Well we're going to bring this up

(54:29):
at the next meeting.

Speaker 2 (54:30):
Click.

Speaker 1 (54:32):
And he looked at me and he and he saw
the smile on my face, and he said, don't, don't, don't, don't.
I have another call to make. And now he called
the University Registrar's Office.

Speaker 2 (54:43):
RNA.

Speaker 1 (54:44):
Russ Martin, listen, I've got another one of these overachievers
here who thinks he's going to take twenty eight credits.
And I told him about the university rule of prohibiting
the number of What do you mean there's no rule? Well,
God damn it, We're going to talk about this at
the next meeting. And he hung the phone up on
RNA and He looked at me and he said, you're insane,

(55:06):
but I have to sign this. There's no limit. Don't
come to me when you crack up next spring.

Speaker 2 (55:12):
Don't do it.

Speaker 1 (55:13):
I said, I have no choice. My father's not going
to pay for anything after next spring. I have to
get out on time. I have job prospects. So comes
the next spring and somehow I balance everything out and
I take the Ecology class and I know going into

(55:34):
the final that the paper that we submitted would decide
whether or not I graduated, or at least how I
did in that class. It came down to two classes,
one history class that I kind of mailed in a
four credit class, and I knew the final I was
going to pass it or fail it on a very
narrow basis, maybe a couple of points on a fifteen

(55:57):
point essay on a one hundred and fifty point exam.
But the Ecology final was really tough. And I was
one of those test takers who would race through a
final exam that you got two hours to take, and
I'd get it done in thirty five minutes because I
believed in what you remember at first was probably the
correct answer. Get it done, Get it done, as fast
as possible, if you want to go back and correct it.

(56:19):
In this one, I was not sure. There were a
lot of multiple choice questions, and I really didn't see
a pattern to them. The professor, who was a definition
of ecology in the nineteen seventies had a full beard,
and for all I knew of bird's nest in it.
And he handed back our term papers in the middle

(56:40):
of this, and I just finishing this thing up and
ready to hand it in at an hour fifteen, half
an hour behind my normal pace, very worried about whether
or not I had done all I could do. And
he hands back the term paper and written up at
the top in red bick pen fourteen circle see me.

(57:02):
And I'm looking at this, and it's one of the
few moments in which I in my entire life where
I have questioned, am I alive or am I dead?
Am I awake? Or am I dreaming? Am I about
to die? I looked at this and went fourteen in
my head. Because we're in a final examine, you're not
allowed to scream, even though that's what I wanted to do.

Speaker 2 (57:21):
Fourteen fourteen.

Speaker 1 (57:24):
As it turned out, I went through every answer on
that goddamned ecology final to the point where they had
to take they had to pull the exam out of
my hands. I'm holding on too, let me.

Speaker 2 (57:35):
Just come thrun one more time.

Speaker 1 (57:38):
I staggered out into the brilliant sunlight of a beautiful
Ithaca morning and waiting for me in the lobby outside
of the exam room, which was in a hall called Roberts.
Roberts Hall was built in the year ten sixty six.
It was the oldest building I'd ever been in in
my life. And there is this professor with his bird's

(57:58):
nest beard, and I'm just going to go up to
him and hit him in the face. He given me
a fourteen. My plans are ruined. There is no way
I'm going to graduate on May twenty eighth, nineteen seventy nine.
It's not going to happen because if this goddamn ecology test,
because I had to take a goddamn tocology class, because
to become a broadcaster, I had to take a series

(58:19):
of science classes because I was going to get a
Bachelor of Science in Communication Arts. And there he is,
and I'm about to swing at him, and he's smiling
at me. So no, I really want to take a
swing at him, and he says, hey, I'm glad I
saw you. I wanted to explain why I didn't give
you the fifteenth point. And I looked at him and

(58:39):
I went, what did you say? He said, yeah, I
gave you the fourteen right, And I said, see me, See,
I like this whole idea that you had about ecology
and about extinction, and that the paper was about extinction.
I had one idea about extinction. Maybe maybe the extinction
of other animals was part of human evolution. Maybe these

(59:01):
things were not accidentally connected, but actual functions of each other.
It's not a bad idea. I had to turn it
into twenty pages of an exam of a history paper,
of a paper about acology, and I didn't know enough,
and it was kind of I ran through six or
eight shovels and he'd given me fourteen out of fifteen.

(59:22):
I had no idea, because of course I hadn't been
at the section where he said that the exam would
be graded on a one to fifteen basis. So I
just heard him say I got a fourteen out of
fifteen meeting I probably got a B in this class.
And I gave him a kiss and walked out into
the sunshine and got drunk. One down, one to go
the history final, and again sitting there, think, okay, this

(59:44):
is going to be five points. And now comes the
week in which they grade the exams and you find
out whether or not you graduate. And as of Friday,
I had called several times to find out if they
had all the results in, because I had to pass
all these courses or I would not graduate on time
for Monday, May twenty eighth, nineteen seventy nine. It is

(01:00:05):
now what Friday, May twenty fifth, and my dad calls
me at the college radio station and he says, are
you graduating? And I said, I don't know yet. I'll
find out. I mean, we're not coming up there on
Monday just to see you not graduate. I said, fine,
I'll call him again. And I called him again, and
this is what I get. Yes, that's the name again.

(01:00:26):
And I said to Olberman, OLB, just a moment. Woman
puts the phone down. For all I know, it's the
same woman Professor Martin had called last fall. Woman puts
the phone down so I can hear it better than
if she were holding it up to her conversation in
the background, I hear, gladys, Yeah, do me a check
on Olberman? Did he graduate? No? Bone, that's my heart bone? No, no, no, no, no, no,

(01:00:52):
not Oberman, ob not her. This is the guy Olb.
I didn't know there was somebody named Oberman in my
class in my school. That's how little I went. Oh lb,
Yes that one Keith Theodore. Yes, yes, the guy in
the radio station who thinks he's funny.

Speaker 2 (01:01:13):
Right, No you sure?

Speaker 1 (01:01:17):
No again? Now my life is flashed in front of
me twice in about a minute and a half. Can't
imagine why I would have had dreams based on this reality.

Speaker 2 (01:01:28):
No you sure? History? Okay?

Speaker 1 (01:01:35):
Where?

Speaker 2 (01:01:36):
Okay?

Speaker 8 (01:01:36):
All right?

Speaker 1 (01:01:37):
Yeah, well I'll tell him. All right, you passed? You
graduate on Monday? What you graduate on Monday? I said,
what was all that about? No, in history, we couldn't
find the history final the history score you got to
you gotta se minus in history. You did, we very
well in the final exam. We just didn't have it
connected yet. No, you're you're you're you're good, you're you

(01:01:58):
You've made it fairly fairly. It was close, but you're
you're out, you're at you're graduating. Congratulations, Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:02:05):
Very much.

Speaker 1 (01:02:06):
You're welcome, have a nice weekend. Say hi to your
folks for me. And I said okay, and then just
went out and got drunk again. Called my dad, I said, hey,
guess what. I graduated. So on graduation morning, they kept
passing around bottles of champagne and they did not get
past me. And I graduated. And there was a whole

(01:02:26):
thing where a girl I was interested in who didn't
graduate on time because she failed sex roles. She failed
a class called sex roles. She was expected to graduate
with honors, and she failed a class called sex roles.
And I was telling this to a friend of mine
who'd been away looking for a job that week and
senior week, we were walking together in the procession for graduation.

(01:02:49):
I totally unexpected, and I'm telling her the story and
it's one of those She's standing right behind me, isn't she?
And the girl who failed the class in sex roles,
which led us all to gleefully enjoy the fact that
she had failed this. She stood behind me and heard
me bad mouthing her, and she said, you've deserved this

(01:03:10):
for a long time, and she hit me. She slapped
me on graduation morning, and my glasses went flying into
the bushes, and then she stormed off to try to
figure out how to deal with the fact that she
had not graduated on time and I had, and my
friend Carol, Carol Hebb, the greatest natural talent in broadcasting

(01:03:32):
I have ever met in my life, said, you know,
you're an unusual guy, but as long as she's running around,
you never have to worry about actually being kind of crazy,
because you're not crazy compared to her. And I should
have proposed to Carol on the spot. So we graduate,

(01:03:52):
and I drink, and we get done, and my father
and mother and sister come up and congratulate me, and
I hand my dad the diploma and say, here's your receipt,
and I rip off my cap and my gown before
they can get a picture of me in it. There's
one picture of me standing with Carol before the whole ceremony,

(01:04:16):
and I don't remember when I did the rest of
the week. I stayed in Ethica, New York for some reason,
with friends, and then went home and went looking for
my job, having graduated. And then the dream started somewhere
along the line, somewhere in the days and weeks beyond
May twenty eighth, nineteen seventy nine, in which I did
not graduate and did not get the job. And I

(01:04:39):
assume I don't remember ever having the dream in which
I get slapped by that one girl, but every other
kind of psychological torture that could occur occurs, and gradually,
as I said, they became, these dreams became not disturbing
at all, but mostly kind of familiar. The last time

(01:05:02):
I had it a few years ago, it finally dawned
on me why I was still having it when there
weren't stresses, and when there weren't things to worry about,
when I had graduated and become a fairly respected alumnus
of Cornell University, which you never would have been on
in a million years. On May twenty eighth, nineteen seventy nine,
I finally realized what it was. And since I said

(01:05:26):
this to my therapist that day, that I realized why
I kept having this dream. Why when it was no
longer an issue of stress. It wasn't kind of stress
burned into the retinas of my mind. It was it
was just a dream I kept having. Why Why did
you keep having this dream through your thirties and forties

(01:05:47):
and fifties and into your sixties. And finally, one day
I woke up kind of smiling from having had the
dream again for the first time in a couple of months,
and it dawned on me. Now the dream had become
a positive because in the dream, I was twenty years old,
and the older you get, unless some true trauma inflicted

(01:06:10):
you at that age, there is almost nothing about the
thought that you might actually turn into twenty years old again.
That is unpleasant. Even not graduating on the day you're
supposed to graduate, and you've been told you're going to graduate,
even that is better. At least, just all of your
joints don't hurt at sixty five years old or even

(01:06:32):
thirty five years old. And finally that became the reason
that I was having the dream. It was just nostalgia
for being twenty years old last time I had the dream,
the dream in which I am thrown back to May
twenty eighth, nineteen seventy nine, the day I didn't didn't

(01:06:56):
graduate in seven semesters from Cornell. I've done all the
damage I can do here. Thank you for listening. Countdown

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and performed most of our music. Mister Ray was on
the guitars, bass and drums, and mister Shaneale handled orchestration
and keyboards produced by Tko Brothers. Other music, including some
of the Beethoven compositions, were arranged and performed by the
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theme from ESPN two, written by Mitch Warren Davis Curtisy
of ESPN inc our satirical and pithy musical comments. My
accompanyist Nancy Faust, the best baseball stadium organist ever. Our
announcer today is my friend Howard Feineman. Everything else was
pretty much my fault. So that's countdown for this the
one hundred and sixty third day until the twenty twenty

(01:07:59):
four presidential election, but two and thirty eighth day since
Dictator j'ms first attempted coup against the democratically elected government
of the United States. Use the legal system, use the
mental health system, use presidential immunity if it happens, use
the not regularly given elector objection option to stop him
from doing it again while we still can. The next

(01:08:24):
scheduled countdown is tomorrow. Bulletin says the news warrants till then.
I'm Keith Olruman. Good morning, good afternoon, good night, and
well ask part of it A good luck?

Speaker 2 (01:08:50):
A yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:08:54):
These are the flags of Alito Insurrection, appeal to have
and send in Noah, damn thing.

Speaker 2 (01:09:01):
Why don't you ask them what they did? I Yi yi,
I am Martha and Alito. It's my flag, it's my world.
I deny you access.

Speaker 1 (01:09:15):
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