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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio. Trump
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is now a lame duck, a lame Donald, A lame
duck Donald, A lame Donald duck. I like it. It's
not just that Marjorie Taylor Green stood up to him
and her side won the Epstein fight nearly unanimously. It's
not just that, even when Trump switched sides so he
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could pretend he didn't lose by four hundred and twenty
seven to one, one of his stalwarts, psychos Clay Higgins,
stood up to him in the opposite direction and voted
against him from the other way. It's that there has
been a sea change within the mainstream media. Trump Stein
has damaged Trump, probably irretrievably, but not in the way
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any of us expected. The Republican House Caucus rebelling against him,
handing him a rebuke so powerful, so large, that he
not only gave up, but he did a one to eighty,
and he made the Speaker of the House to a
one eighty with him. That's something that even most of
the Washington political media industrial complex of morons can understand,
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can process, can write using the cliches in which they
trafficked until Trump and his unprecedented madness came along a
decade ago. This looked familiar to them, like they were
back from a trip through the desert, and they jumped
on it with both feet and both cliches. Fortune quote
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in twenty thirty, He's not going to be the president.
Even Republicans are warning of Trump's lame duck status as affordability,
Epstein threatened to derail Tenure NBC News quote, lame duck
Trump inside Trump losing his grip on the Republican Party
after nearly a decade. Wall Street Journal, Trump's grip on
Republican shows first signs of slipping semaphore the Epstein vote
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quote a sign that Trump wants all powerful in the
Republican Party is entering an early lame duck period. Nate Silver,
is Trump a lame duck? Where if you prefer CNN,
is Trump a lame duck? Now? And worst of all,
worse than you can possibly imagine in the case in
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which the vibe actually counts. The biggest media cliche of
them all Politico one day with Donald Trump enters his
lame duck era. It's a two liner. So right under
Donald was duck. Donald duck and the next day came
the dreaded Politico listical quote seven signs Trump is losing
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his groove. The president has faced a series of brush
offs and brushbacks that threaten his aura of invincibility. A
lame duck listical with bad puns. Oh my god, Trump
might as well resign and flee for Argentina. Right effing now,
quack whack. Yeah. But Politico, Wall Street Journal, NBC, Semaphore, Fortune,
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Maga thinks they're all commies spoiler alert, they're all fascists.
Mostly what about a right way? Oh? Quote The Epstein
Fight shows Trump inching closer to lame duck status by
Jim Garretty National Review.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
In yesterday's column, I suggested Trump is starting to look
like a lame duck. Okay, Jim, Still it seems to
be lacking some final confirmation of this, some acknowledgment from
the denizens of dead center, the deepest mainstream unshakably both
sides this cubby holding institutional protectors and we don't have that.
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Oh wait. Quote it's official Donald Trump is a lame
duck president by Chris Sliza. But what about Chuck Todd Oh?
The subheadline by chrysal my weekly conversation with Chuck Todd.
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If you've lost Chrys and Chuck Todd, you're a lame
duck if you think the Epstein story will now never
go away. Now that the term lame duck has entered
the conversation literally and entered the brains of the official
Washington circle jerk led by Chief Jerks, Solicit and Todd,
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lame duck will follow Trump to his last minutes in office,
hopefully all the way to next week sometime. But okay,
does this mean anything? These are missionary position Washington pretend
journalistic outlets to get them to line up in herd mentality, Michael,
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how much could they cost? One hundred dollars? There actually
is substance here. Morning Consult has a new poll asking
Americans do you think Trump knew quote what Epstein was
up to, which is a little vague, but the data
is not vague. Fifteen percent said no, Trump did not
know what Epstein was up to. Sixty percent said oh yes,
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yes he did. That's four times as many. That's a lot.
That's like a number Trump would make up. A Reuter's
IPSOS poll is kind of worse. Only twenty percent of
the country approves of how Trump has handled the Epstein
in case, just forty four percent of Republicans. He's losing
Republicans about Epstein. The total percentage of Americans who believe
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Trump's government is hiding info about Epstein's clients is now
seventy percent, including sixty percent of Republicans. These are way
worse than a disastrous new poll about the Measley midterms
PBS NPR. Maris the generic Democrat at next year's House election,
and I have met the generic Democrat, by the way,
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fifty five percent generic Republican forty one, and the Democrats
are favored by two to one among independents. Strength in
numbers verisite only has it forty seven to forty two Democratic.
But and if this doesn't explain everything right now, I
don't know what will. If you then remind the people
you are polling that the Republicans currently control the House
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and the Senate, the Democratic lead jumps from forty seven
to forty two to forty eight forty one. They do
no knton The obviousness of the Trump play here on
Epstein will make it certain that his Epstein numbers will
in fact get worse. First, he told Pam Bondi to
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investigate Democrats. Then he went after Larry Summers, just proving
the stopped clock can weed out the scumbags twice a year.
Thanks Trump, Now do Alan Dershowitz. Then Trump cave to
Massy and Green in the Democrats, and he called for
an unnecessary vote to release the Epstein files that he
spent a year promising to release personally. But now he
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wants somebody else on the record taking the responsibility for
actually doing that. And of course, stage last, he can
now keep almost anything he wants in the trump Stein
files from being released because they're auditing his tax returns. No, sorry,
that was the old eternal excuse. Now he can keep
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almost anything from being released because it's part of an
active investigation. Paan Blundy, when do you expect to have
the active investigation concluded? The air four thousand, Chief, This
has the practical impact of keeping some secrets hidden. Unfortunately,
that impact can only be achieved if you repeat this
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effort daily. Thereby keeping this story in the news daily forever,
and the longer that goes on, the greater will be
the belief that whatever there is about Trump in those files,
it has to be fatal. He could probably have made
political hay by being the hero to Maga who released
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everything and now instead, the number of trump'stey and conspiracy
theories will increase daily and exponentially. Not to overweight Marjorie
Taylor Green's influence here with too much importance. But a
month ago, could you have imagined Democrats seriously, even a
couple of them weighing the implications of letting her join
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their party. She has receded into the background of this,
but not for long. Quote. This has been one of
the most destructive things to Maga. She now says. Watching
this actually turn into a fight has ripped Maga apart. Yes,
plays rip away, to paraphrase the immortal manager of the
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Chicago Cubs, Lee Elia from the Gettysburg Address of Baseball
managerial detonations to the media from nineteen eighty three. Rip
them mother rippers, rip them ripping ripsuckers, like the ripping
players right down town and print it. If you don't
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know who League Ilia is and you don't know what
I'm referring to there about rip them mother rippers. I
was thinking, could I play the tape at the end
of the show. I mean, it's it's a little much
even now on the internet. To listen to better, you
go to YouTube or wherever you get your m efforts,
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because he goes and he uses the word rip rip
mega part rip them mother rippers. The next maga ripping
rage against Trump. Let me just repeat that, disaber, the
deliciousness of that phrase, the next maga ripping rage against Trump.
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It's so obvious even he said it would crash his
pull numbers. Yesterday he told the US Saudi Investment summit,
and he pronounced it saw d as in bone saw
that the Saudi's trillion dollar loll investment, their entire economy
is a trillion point one thank you for giving us
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your country. That the Saudi investment will generate thousands of
jobs in Arizona. For Saudi's quote, you can't come in
open a massive computer chip factory for billions and billions
of dollars like is being done in Arizona and think
you're going to hire people off an unemployment line to
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run it. They're going to have to bring thousands of
people with them, and I'm going to welcome those people.
This is maga. He then said. Anybody who didn't understand
this was dumb. The Mags might take that personally, also
the idea that their swami sees them as just idiots
on an unemployment line. Trump was also nice enough to
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clear the Saudi dictator Muhammad bin Saun of the Kashagi
torture and murder, even though Trump's own intelligence community said
he ordered it. Basically said the man had it coming.
Besides that disaster, end immigration by increasing immigration, and buy
more bone saws. Almost no other current headline does not
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make Trump look like a limp Putts diplomacy. We guess
which war Trump isn't gonna solve in the next sixty
seconds like those other eight trillion wars he solved this year. Ukraine,
The deal is, oh, look, it's the same shit Putin
has told him to shove down Zelenski's throat since last February.
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Moscow will stop killing women and children in Ukraine and
bombing its power grid if Ukraine just gives up the
Eastern dnbas, much of which it still controls. In other words,
Trump's solution to Russia's invasion of Ukraine is Russia wins
and Ukraine loses. I deserved the Nobel prize, Maga, and
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don't forget the V in MAGA stands for vendetta. The
government admitted the members of the grand jury never saw
the indictments of James Comey that Trump legal spokesmodel Lindsay
Halligan claimed the jury members had approved. Turns out that
Trump doj strategy here was a cross between Franz Kafka's
The Trial and Lionel Huts from The Simpsons telling the judge,
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I move for a bad court fingy. The case could
now be dismissed with prejudice as in no refiling, and
Halligan could very easily lose her license. Is the price
is right? Still on TV? She could go work on
the price is right, pointing at the Plinko board. Thank you, Lindsay,
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spay and neuter your Trump. It is amazing that, in
addition to attacking basically every other woman of color, that
he sees or hears about the rule of thumb in
knowing where Trump's virulent misogyny will come out, is this,
does the woman's hair weigh more or less than a pound?
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Lindsay Halligan looks like a pound Milania a pound, Alena
Hobby a pound, Maria Bartiromo. While that that's sixty maybe
seventy pounds. ABC's Mary Bruce a few ounces. He attacked
her at the Saudi News stunt said the FCC should
take away ABC's news license. Once again. He's just to
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bother to create news licenses. Maybe I shouldn't remind her
of that oversight. Catherine Lucy, the Bloomberg reporter he called
Piggy on Air Force one when she asked about the
Epstein files. Her hair is also less than a pound.
And I owe Miss Lucy an apology. I heard that
sound bite. I even used it here, and I just
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thought he was saying Peggy, and what would his brain
not working right and the clip being recorded amid all
that airplane wine, he wasn't saying it well. I thought
he was trying to say Peggy. I don't know Peggy
was Peggy from a right wing outlet. I'm sorry, Miss Lucy.
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I should have hit Trump for it Monday, especially for
the simple fact of how appalling it is that he
could call anybody else in the history of the world piggy.
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One more headline disastrous for lame Donald Duck. Then we'll
move on to the Olivia Newsy. It's a doozy. How
much more can she lose e all. That's newsy segment.
I am as mystified by the video as you are.
The video if you have not seen it, is six
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Democratic lawmakers. All six are military veterans, warning active service
members that they are obligated to refuse illegal military orders.
Senator Slotkin of the CIA in Iraq, Senator Kelly of
the Navy and NASA, Congressman Crow former Army ranger, Representatives
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Goodlander and Delusio of the Navy, Congresswoman Hulahan of the
Air Force. The stage is yours.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
I'm Senator Alissa Slockin, Senator Mark Kelly, Representative Chris S. Deluzios,
Congressman Maggie Goodlanyard Representative Chrissy Hulahan, Congressman Jason Crowe.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
That was a captain in the United States.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Navy, former CIA officer, former Davy, former paratrooper and Army ranger,
former intelligence officer, former Air Force.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
We want to speak directly to members of the military.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
And the intelligence community who take risks each day to
keep Americans safe. We know you are under enormous stress
and pressure right now. Americans trust their military, but that
trust is at risk.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
This administration is pitting our uniform military.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
And intelligence community professionals against American citizens like us.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
You all swore an oath to protect and defend this constitution.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Right now, the threats to our constitution aren't just coming
from a road, but from right here at home.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Our laws are clear. You can refuse illegal orders.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
You can refuse illegal orders. You must refuse illegal orders.
No one has to carry out orders that violate the
law or our constitution.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
We know this is hard and that it's a difficult
time to be a public servant.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
But whether you're serving in the CIA, the Army, or Navy,
the Air Force.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Your vigilance is critical.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
And know that we have your back because now more
than ever, the American people need you. We need you
to stand up for our laws, our constitution, and who
we are as Americans.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Don't give up. Don't give up.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
Don't give up, don't give up the ship.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
Your's a surprise. Steven Miller called that Democrats openly calling
for X which is funny, you know, because Steven Miller
is a psycho and the only insurrection here since eighteen
sixty five he and his boss Trump caused and still own.
But what prompted this video, I mean, I get it.
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The threat level rises daily that Trump could will maybe
use the military to do anything, anything from ending democracy
to just ending Late Night with Seth Myers. But was
there was there something specific that caused you to make this.
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Maybe you could let us in on it, Senator Slotkin.
Maybe is it? I mean, should we go and and
raid the supermarkets and stash up on canned goods? Could
you let us know, Senator Slotkin, about for why you
did this? You know? Now? Ish also of interest here
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will She had her say and then her acts. Ryan
Liza he had his say, and then a new character
was introduced into the saga. Mark, I just can't stay
off that good old Appalachian trail. Sandford gotta compliment, Ryan Lizza.
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I never thought I'd say those words. That was a
wacky ending. That was a twist, dude. Now the New
York Times is doing something about her that involves me
in some way, So I guess it's my turn to
have my say.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Now.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Look, I'm I'm tangential. I only appear in the opening
scenes of the Olivia newzy RFK Junior, Ryan Liza, do
you have the license plate of the car you were
hit by? Drama? I only I'm only in the opening scenes.
Then I get off, and now that we're talking scenes,
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if you're wondering who plays Olivia in the upcoming Inevitable
streaming series, it's just too bad they are not the
same age, because at twenty two, Olivia looked exactly like
Julius Stiles when she was twenty two. AnyWho, I'm mostly
good for fact checking and guffawing at the book excerpt,
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which prompted one Internet wag to write, Okay, I read
some of the Newsy piece, and I am pleased to
announce that I will never feel bad about my own
writing ever again. The Newsy News that's next in an
all new edition of Countdown. The book is called American Cante,
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but there's still time to change the dust jackets so
it can be retitled American Olivia News. See canto write anymore?
This gives me less pleasure than I thought it might,
or I may have indicated in the first sentence, but
my ex in exile, the mother of my dogs, the
sharer of my complimentary tattoos and commitment rings, had a
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year long exile, and I must ask, this is the
best you could do. Did you read it before you
hit send? Did your editor was there an editor. Okay,
so it's terrible, but you knew that already. It's terrible,
like the new name for MSNBC is terrible. You had
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all that time and you chose dumb and cliched. That
really is the bottom line here. She used to be
as sharp and natural a writer as anybody I had
ever read. I met her because I wanted to hire
her to write the TV version of Countdown, even though
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she was not quite not yet nineteen. In the one
hundred and forty character days of Twitter, Olivia Newsey's tweets
were as politically insightful and funny as anybody's, and she
usually left fifty or sixty characters unused. And now she
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has written a book in which she appears to be
attempting to make phone sex into wuthering heights, a book
in which she attempts to explain she's not an unreliable
source of information who slept with a source and is
tainted forever, and it was just true love and just
that one time. And before her laugh out loud bad
excerpt had been public for twelve hours, her other ex
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came out with his own disastrously badly written posts that
made up for its awfulness by having as good a
closing paragraph plot twist as I've ever read. He wasn't
writing about when he found out his fiance Olivia bl
blew up their engagement via sex with Robert F. Kennedy
Junior in twenty twenty four. He was writing about when
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his fiance Olivia blew up their engagement via sex with
Governor Mark Sanford in twenty nineteen. Huge if true, And
if that's true, Olivia's explanation for her lies to Liza
and her employers, and more important, everybody who read her
RFK junior profile or anything else she ever read, or
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whoever thought she was a reporter and a non lying reporter,
that explanation of her lies was itself a lie. Oops.
I'll get to that in a moment. First, back to
Newzy and Liza and me, And I'm the extraneous red
herring character who gets shot and killed in the first
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scene like they used to do in every episode of
the Leslie Nielsen TV version of Naked Gun Police Squad
show starts, guy gets shot, body gets rolled out of
the car. That's me. I can add a lot of
details and facts and corrections, and I'm gonna. I will
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note I did not start this edition of the podcast
with this story. I stuck to my script and the news.
And if you don't care about this story, to which
I am oddly connected, but about which I might be
the best informed outsider you're ever gonna find, feel free
to hit stop. The two of you left. Let me
start by explaining what happened to a woman so destined
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to dominate some form of journalism that her name was
literally Newsy as if it had been spelled anywsy Okay,
as that corny reference confirms. At some point every writer
in every medium discovers their style and they begin to
apply it to all of their scripts or stories or
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play books. And just as certainly we each face the
day when we discovered the material that day isn't all
that compelling, and all you really got is your style,
then suddenly you're forcing the material to fit your style.
And if you don't correct this problem this new way
of doing things soon or late, what you will be
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writing will be nothing but style, and it will, to
use a professional term, suck. We had a great entertaining
sportscaster in New York here for forty years named Warner
Wolf lovely guy. And if you think I used catchphrases
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in my sports casts, his boom swish. Let's go to
the videotape, give me a break. Turn your sets off there,
mister g was it the game? Warner Wolf's were so numerous,
no man could count that high. In fact, in college,
I took an audio tape of one of his sportscasts
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one night on Channel two. I edited out all of
the facts, player names, scores, stuff that wasn't catchphrases. The
whole sports cast, the original version of it was just
under four minutes long. What was left after I edited
out the actual sports news, when there was nothing but
the catchphrases, what was left was still two minutes and
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twenty five seconds long. More than fifty percent was just filler.
This excerpt suggests Silivia has become a kind of Warner
Wolf of political media. Quote. I did not like to
think about it, just as later, I would not like
to think about the worm in his brain that other
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people found so funny. I loved his brain. I hated
the idea of an intruder therein. Others thought he was
a madman. He was not quite mad the way they thought.
But I loved the private ways that he was mad.
I loved that he was insatiable in all ways, as
if he would swallow up the whole world just to
know it better if he could. He made me laugh,
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but I winced when he joked about the worm. Baby,
don't worry, he said, it's not a worm. A doctor
he trusted had reviewed the scans of his brain obtained
by The New York Times, he said, and concluded that
the shadowy figure was likely not a parasite at all.
He sighed, it was too late to interfere with what
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had already vaulted from the sphere of meme to the
sphere of screwy legend. But at least I did not
have to worry about the worm that was not a
worm in his brain. If you had the worm and
the points, you lose, boom swish. Give me a break.
Let's go to the videotape. Turn your sets off. There.
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This is Warner Newsy. I may have made the last
part up. Look that quote was missing only one thing.
It was a dark and stormy night. Again, this is
not meant to be a literary review, just adding in
facts and context and something of a rebuttal stuff that
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she and Ryan Liza both left out or in Liz's case,
stuff she probably never told him. And I went looking,
honest I did for somebody who really liked the book excerpt.
I wanted to present the other side here. I wanted
to both sides this. I literally couldn't find anybody. I
found a couple of people asking why everybody's yelling at
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her and not good old worm brain, but nobody who
who didn't say this stuff read like somebody doing a
parody of Olivia Newsy. I'll get to my modest additional info,
but I do have one complaint about one other image quote.
A few minutes later, the planes swooped down dispray the
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flames in the bluffs. I watched from the Pacific Coast
Highway as far away from my problems as I could
get on land, which was not far enough. This is
the editor in me speaking. I've never been really an editor,
a paid editor, but I would have been the best
of all time. She got the name of the highway wrong.
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Right there, it's Pacific Coast Highway. It is not the
Pacific Coast Highway any more than my hometown is the
Hastings on the Hudson there's no the It's not a
major difference unless you lived in southern California, or you're
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liking books that reassure you that they have been carefully
edited to minimize mistakes, or if, like me, you used
to live on Pacific Coast Highway PCH as it's also
known not TPCH or worms Street, that mistake was meant
for me. Okay, back to the disaster already in progress. Quote.
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People ask me now about anger, about my lack of it?
How how could I not be enraged? I think this over.
I scan the terrain of my body, my chest, my spine,
behind my belly button. I look for pale pulses of
idle fury, waiting for the alarm to sound at the
trip wire of my veins. There is nothing there. There
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is nothing there because I loaded a gun. I loaded
a gun and set it on my nightstand. You recall
the statistic that a gun in your home doubles your
chances of dying by homicide. Still, I loaded a gun.
I loaded a gun and set it on my nightstand.
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Context ad number one. Olivia didn't used to drive, let
alone own a gun. Would you give me a weapon
like a car, She asked, me once. Now she has
a car, she lets the New York Times shoot glamour
videos of her driving, and she has a gun. The
woman who once felt a car was too dangerous a
weapon to give her she has a car, she has
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a gun, and yet, based on the publicity photos for
this book, still with a gun, somebody managed to steal
her eyebrows. All right, I lied, I have to read
one more unbelievably bad paragraph. Like all men, but more so,
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he was a hunter in a literal sense. He used
not a bullet but a bird. It was not about
a chase, but about a puzzle of logic and skill
that amounted to a test of his self mastery. I
don't like where this is going. I don't like the
word mastery. He was the mouse and the architect of
his maize, the giver of his own pleasure and torment.
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He desired, He desired desiring, He desired being desired. He
desired desire itself. I'm waiting here for the part about
how he got caught doing this on a street car
name desire, but she didn't put that in there. I
understood this, just as I came to understand the range
of his kinks and complexes and how they fit within
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what I thought I understood of his soul. The spark,
the flame, the rumor fulfilled, the labyrinth on fire, the
Palisades fire, rain in places, fog patches on the coast,
high in the mid fifties, Tonight in Sports, Cowboys thirty three,
Raiders sixteen. Now back to k fog Okay. Now for
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the surprise, the editorial reply by her ex fiance, Ryan Lize.
I never liked him. What I've said about his work
predates Olivia, and it didn't get meaner or worse because
of Olivia. She's Olivia. He's a standard issue number thirty
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seven by one six robotic access journalist, size medium. He
got fired for unspecified sexual pesting by The New Yorker,
but CNN kept him on for a while as a contributor.
Before that, he was a guest on Countdown I think
in two thousand and nine or twenty ten, highly recommended
because he was a writer and editor at The New Yorker.
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Flat as a surfboard on TV. Not interesting, and I
gather that is exactly how he felt about doing the
show again or talking to me again. Fine. I met
him remotely then two thousand and nine twenty ten. I
had met Robert F. Kennedy Junior when he phoned me
in two thousand and four to call me his hero.
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Heady stuff that is, in fact, the only part of
Olivia's I hang up and listen obsession with him that
I can process. It turned out Kennedy thought me a
hero because I had reported on some vote counting irregularity
in Warren County, Ohio in the presidential election of two
thousand and four, and that fed his main line addiction
to conspiracy theories, which I guess I can understand as well,
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given that his father and uncle were both murdered more
or less live on television when he was a young boy.
So anyway, there's much more from Liza and his reply
to which I can add stuff that is either relevant
or true, because Liza actually wrote about me quote. She
deceived me for a year and smeared me with false
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allegations and not just little lies, but big fantastical falsehoods, blackmail.
A former child actor, Olivia always had a keen sense
for the dramatic. She orchestrated a plot with the help
of a senior Trump official, to try to have me
imprisoned and now she's written what appears to be a
largely fictitious and self serving account about it. All checks
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out a couple things, though, bro The facts are a
little hazy, But Olivia used to proudly talk to me
about having gotten her entire teenaged singing career scrubbed off
the net. Quote offensive, vapid, frothy, bubblegum, outrageous, morally bankrupt,
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and undeniably infectious. These are just some of the words
that have been used to describe jail bait and the
not yet legal mind behind it, sixteen year old singer
songwriter Livy. You know who Livy turned out to be
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quoting her. I know that people are going to hear
the song once see my photo and immediately come to
the conclusion that I'm a brain dead blow up doll,
like so many pop tarts before me. And that's great.
It's fabulous, Livy says, no intellect is necessary to listen
to my music. It's pop, it's fun, it's danceable. But
at its core, this song is a social commentary. It
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just happens to be insanely catching though just a teenager.
The press release about her goes on Livy has had
some experience in the world of entertainment, or maybe that
should be read. Livy has had some experience in the
world of entertainment, beginning her career as a child model
at the age of five, she quickly moved into acting,
(36:34):
ultimately appearing in a succession of commercials, films, and television shows.
The camera exposure had a profound effect on the young
attention seeker. Livvy became obsessed with Hollywood, MTV, and subsequently
with pop music. I'm not even going to try to
address the potential serious consequences of this history about her
(36:57):
that I did not know. Lord knows how many kids
go into entertainment, especially girls at that age, and do
not come out the same person, if they come out
at all. I hope none of that is true. I
don't know, because in my defense, I saw that that
I just read to you for the first time Monday.
(37:20):
All right, back to Lizzie, since I want to stay
largely to what I know firsthand, and that's not firsthand
that press release, that's first time I saw it, Liza writes,
quote silence was my preference, and Olivia seemed to agree.
Last year, she asked to negotiate a non disclosure agreement.
Earlier this year, she sent a message to me by
(37:42):
a mutual friend, I will never talk about any of
this again, and I hope you will do the same.
I'm not sure if she delivered that before or after
she had a publication date for her book, arranged a
Vanity Fair excerpt and secured a profile in the New
York Times. Either way, it wasn't true, and unfortunately, silence
no longer seems advisable or even possible. End quote. Yeah, uh,
(38:07):
she said, we're brothers on this was a consistency. Consistency
is one politician Olivia has never met. The day we
broke up, she looked at our two dogs, one of
whom really adored her and would miss her, and I
could see it, and then I even have some proof
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of it, would miss her for at least a year.
And she said, I hope you mean it when when
you said I can come visit them maybe once a
week or every other week. And she said, please keep
on her about trying to arrange those visits. And also,
if I could, please remind her that her closet in
our apartment was still full of clothes. Please text, please
(38:52):
call me, bug me about it. You know, me, and
when I did both about the dogs and the clothes,
she accused me of stalking her. As you will hear. Okay,
more from Ryan Lizzon quote. I was used to cleaning
up Olivia's messes. Not that long ago, I had helped
her untangle herself from an unusual relationship with Keith Oldraman,
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the former MSNBC host. What it was was she and
I lived together, and we had dogs and complimentary tattoos
and identical commitment rings. And I don't know what was
unusual about that, besides obviously the age difference, which I'm
not trying to undersell. Our first date was a dinner
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in October twenty eleven. She was way too young eighteen
getting towards nineteen, but not you know, like not next
week nineteen. And I was way too old, fifty two
and not getting any younger. On the other hand, I
always take relationships slow anyway, this one even more so
(39:57):
for that reason, until I was sure she really did
as cynical and hateful of people as we were. I
wanted to make sure she really did love me like
she said, and then I really did love her like
I said, and we did. So I waited, we didn't
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wind up on to use a phrase from somebody else
who will appear in this mini series, we didn't wind
up on the Appalachian Trail until the next spring or summer,
when she was like nineteen and a half. To keep
the precise numbers in play. And by the way, RFK
Junior is older than I am, so my favorite joke
about all this is turned out I was too young
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for Olivia. It was not an unusual relationship. By the
fourteenth month of the thing, her parents were having me
over for family Christmas at their house in New Jersey. Them, Olivia,
her brother, her brother's girlfriend, me, their dogs, our dogs.
(40:59):
That was it the family. It was a most impossibly
domestic I thought it was going well at that point.
All right back to Liza about me. She had messaged
him out of the blue, him as me in this sentence.
They started talking, and soon after she fled her unhappy
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home in suburban New Jersey and started living with Keith
in Manhattan. He paid for her to attend college, outfitted
her in tom Ford a rve Leger dresses and some
fifteen thousand dollars worth of Cardier jewelry. I must interrupt
(41:44):
here to say that. I was a little surprised when
I read this to find out that ten years after
Olivia Newsy and I broke up, her next ex boyfriend
happened to have at his fingertips the amount of money
I spent on her at Cardier. How does that happen?
(42:06):
I barely can remember where I was working in twenty fifteen. Now,
what Liza is missing here is that most of that
fifteen thousand dollars, which sounds right to me, went to
those matching commitment rings I keep mentioning, and so like
half the money was actually me spending money on me
and so as to the rest of us. We were
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together for three years plus, but that included four of
her birthdays, four Christmases, and three of our anniversaries. So
in reality I spent like seven hundred dollars per celebration
on her, and I was being paid a lot of
money in my jobs. I mean, what's the Ryan Liza
(42:48):
norm here? What Ryan? I should have gotten her some
Walmart gift cards Merry Christmas more Liza. Later, he covered
her rent and furnished her apartment in a doorman building
in the West Village. All right, I gave her a
chair and one pictured to hang on the walls. He's
(43:12):
left something key out of this that's probably more important
than the chair or the picture. And I'll give him
the benefit of the doubt here because largely his tone
towards me was not as snarky as mine would have
been about him, or I guess is about him, So
good for him, I'll just assume he didn't know any
of this. Next stuff about the apartments plural. Olivia lived
(43:37):
with me, got her hair done in our apartment when
my old friend from MSNBC used to come over to
cut mine. She played with the dogs in our apartment.
She got her pharmacy deliveries in our apartment, ironically was
in a Trump building. And then when she was going
to Fordham University, she found she liked also having a
dorm room, a place of her own. She never had
(43:57):
that before. And then when she left Fordham, she told
me they had asked her to leave, in the same
way she had told me Catholic University in Washington had
asked her to leave. She managed somehow, though she wasn't
going to Fordham anymore, she managed to keep the Fordham
dorm room for a while until they finally figured it out.
So now she asked if I would help her get
(44:18):
a studio apartment on the West Side where she could
write and she could tell her friends who she didn't
want to know about us, this is where I live.
And I thought that was a good idea, and even
if it wasn't a big deal, we found something safe
and relatively cheap. And then a couple months later, Olivia
(44:39):
did something which I'm not prepared to share the details
of it with you. Maybe it would be wise for
me to do that later, but not now. It was
I think this is the best phrase I've ever come
up to describe this, a behavioral event, an aberration where
she kind of freaked out, and the end result endangered
(45:02):
her life and her career and maybe my career, And
somehow none of those things happened. She beat the odds
at every stage, but the landlord at her place was
not happy with what happened and they terminated her lease.
Yeah bad, Then we got her the place in the
West Village bad enough. This was that what it was.
(45:26):
Eventually led to the end of the relationship because I
spent the last five months with her insisting this was
an aberration. This just wasn't drink or something or cold.
I said, you need to see professionals about why this happened.
I'm very worried for you. I love you and I
(45:46):
want you to be okay. And that was not okay.
You need to find out why what happened had happened.
And she wouldn't do it. And eventually she got tired
of hearing me tell her to do it and to
tell her she would always be at risk at any
moment of a career ending event. Oh no, thank god,
that did happen. With RFK Junior, we're threatening to get
(46:07):
Liza jailed or now Governor Sanford, which among you is next?
Back to lizib quote. While Keith, who was thirty four
years older, was generous, there were strings attached. This is
where Ryan Lizza loses me. First off, he's nearly nineteen
(46:29):
years older than Olivia. Plus he dyes his hair and
he tries to look hip and cool, so I think
that erases the actual difference in ages between him and me. Also,
I have no idea what he's talking about with the
there were strings attached. The most invasive I ever got
with Olivia was let me know if you're staying here
tonight or you're gonna be at your place so I
(46:51):
can turn the lights off or leave them on, literally
Liza again. Olivia had concealed the relationship from me and
other friends, but one day she told me everything too
much actually, and to get there we hatched a plan
for her escape about that phrase too much. It's funny
that the premise of Ryan Lizz's reply to Olivia Newsy
(47:14):
is that she is an unreliable narrator and constantly lied
to him. Yet it does not seem to have occurred
to him at any point that she might have lied
to him about me. I have no idea what plan
there was for her to escape. This is what happened,
five months of me saying, please please talk to somebody.
(47:34):
That's not what you think it was. It's serious stuff.
Then one Thursday night we argued about getting help, and
I said, all right, I've done all I can do here,
maybe we should call this off, and she didn't want to.
And then the next day I had second thoughts and
a lot of guilt about there being nobody there left
to look out for her, and we made up. That's Friday.
(47:56):
Then Saturday she was back in Jersey with her folks
and Then on Sunday she arrived announced we were both
miserable and we were breaking up, and she left and
I haven't seen her since. I think we talked twice
on the phone after that. I was trying to talk
to her about the clothes and the dogs. Then she
ghosted me, which made the clothes and the dogs thing impossible.
(48:17):
And yes, am I angry at all. I'm still angry,
and I have not forgiven her about the dogs. Rose
in particular missed her. That was the plan, Ryan, Wow,
this sounds more complicated than D Day. How did you
remember all of it? Unless the plan was the one
(48:39):
that let her keep all the stuff I gave her
to outfit her apartment, a chair and a picture, or
maybe it was a different plan for her to get
all of her clothes, only she never did that, and
I wound up donating them to charity, which she complained
to her mother about. And by the way, for a
year after we broke up, her mother continued to come
into New York to babysit the dogs whenever I would
(49:01):
leave town. Her mother's we're very upset that you guys
have broken up. We always knew she was safe with you.
Her mother and her father took my side in the breakup.
More Liza, when friends asked why I never responded to
Keith's public attacks on me and Olivia he means tweets,
(49:24):
I explained that she had felt stalked by Keith after
she left him, and we had a strict policy of
never engaging with him. Two things here, I don't read
the replies, so it's the first time I ever found
out that they didn't reply. And as I said, I
attacked Ryan Liza long before I ever heard of Olivia
(49:44):
Newsy self satisfied terrible in TV it Happens, And then
under his tutelage, Olivia gradually crumbled from the most gifted, young,
critical but not cynical writer in American politics to just
another access journalist who never for a moment understood that
the point of what she was writing was inform, not
(50:05):
to complete a great paragraph. That she was not writing
a story. She was writing information vital to the continuation
of the American democracy, and she seemed to have forgotten
that entirely while with Ryan lism Oh. In that word stalking,
I didn't mention that first because I don't give it
a lot of weight. Here and here again. I feel
(50:27):
a little sorry for Ryan because he's under informed. When
Olivia went to The Daily Beast, they started sending her
and by the way, I negotiated her contract with them,
they didn't know that at the time.
Speaker 3 (50:38):
Harhar.
Speaker 1 (50:40):
They started sending her to Washington to cover stories there,
and she would FaceTime me. Yeah, Olivia is a big
FaceTime gal, Bobby Junior, can you back me up on that? Anyway?
She would say, there's this guy down here from the
New Yorker. Do you know him? He's stalking me? Ryan Liza, Ryan,
Lizza my stalker. Bottom line here is, while Olivia was
(51:05):
claiming to Liza that I was stalking her, she was
claiming to me that Liza was stalking her. It's a
big tent. She also had a reader from her days
at The Daily Beast and before that that she insisted
was stalking her. And then, to my surprise, and when
I say surprise, I mean not at all surprised, she
(51:27):
and Liza were suddenly dating and writing sappy entries on
Facebook together. And fine, I was dating too, not them,
I'll be other. I was just dating. But the Facebook
post somebody sent me was accompanied with isn't this next
to your house. The two of them were posing at
(51:50):
their tree in Central Park, which was not just near
my house, but it was on the path I walked
the dogs every day. For a moment, a fleeting moment,
I thought, oh good, now she's stalking me. I actually
wrote on the Facebook page something like, I don't want
to run into you anymore than you don't want to
(52:10):
run into me. I will avoid your tree, but just
you know, look out. You are literally hanging out three
minutes from my new apartment, and the dogs and I
go by there every day. One more Lizic quote. Olivia
wanted to get married in the next few years before
(52:31):
I'm old, she would say, meaning thirty, and our Georgetown
chapter was a test run for whether that might work.
Speaker 2 (52:39):
Well.
Speaker 1 (52:40):
I don't doubt that for a minute, because it is
almost word for word what she said to me, either
in twenty thirteen or fourteen before her behavioral event. Her
aberration pretty much crossed that off the list of possibilities.
Living with me in the Trump Building was our test run.
She talked about kids maybe, but marriage definitely, though her
(53:05):
stories about RFK Junior, or about kids and impregnating her
definitely in marriage maybe, even though he's already married. Do
you see a pattern here? The rest of Ryan Liza's story,
Part two is still pending. As I recorded. This was
the surprise ending where he says it turns out she
(53:26):
did the whole RFK bit in twenty nineteen with Governor
Mark Sandford, and both of those echo the idea that
her relationship with Lisam may have overlapped the one with me.
But even if it didn't, she was telling him that
I was stalking her, and she was telling me that
he was stalking her. Maybe Part two will explain why
(53:46):
he stayed with her. Liza does get props for setting
up his surprise ending, though it was pointed out to
me also that really observant spectators to this fourteen month
long slow motion political media car crash will have already
noticed that Liza foreshadowed what he wrote this past Monday.
(54:08):
On October fifteenth of twenty twenty four, writer Nick Field
took soundings in the legal filings when Olivia was trying
to get Ryan indicted or tased by the FBI, or
god knows what, and mister Field noted this quote. I
did tell miss Newzy Liz the Wrights that I thought
(54:28):
she should be responsible for paying back our book advance,
since this is the second presidential cycle in a row
where ms Newzy's personal indiscretions have sabotaged our book project.
Mister Field succinctly adds two words to this quotation, and
they are second time very good, Nickfield, very good? How
(54:56):
can you not be a detective Nick Field with that
name and that insight any who? I don't know where
all this leaves a Olivia, and that makes me sad.
Maybe Liz's Part two, if it ever happens, will clarify something.
But media people hated them to begin with because they
were so consciously and shamelessly trying to become a reporting
(55:19):
power couple, and he was so sadly trying to exploit
her rising star as his decline from The New Yorker
to overnight editing at Politico. I mean, I didn't try
to piggyback on Olivia's work as she succeeded. I liked
(55:41):
having a tiny part in this anonymously. More importantly, Olivia
and I were literally watching the American version of House
of Cards in bed one night when the Kate Mara
reporter characters started to sleep with the Kevin Spacey character,
and Olivia said, why does Hollywood assume women reporters sleep
with their sources? And later she tweeted that she went
(56:06):
from that to technologically sleeping with her source, her interviewee
maybe twice, I mean two different interviewees. And then after
a year out of the business because of this, she
got another chance in a dying industry that's laying off
hundreds of reporters who didn't sleep with their sources or
(56:28):
alter the news or shill in exchange for access to Trump,
and none of them got new jobs. Plus the Mark
Sanford twist the book excerpt the book the new job
as a West Coast editor at Vanity Fair doesn't know
its Pacific Coast Highway. I only did this once. I'm
(56:51):
not unreliable. I can explain her semi maya culpa, her
explanation for the lies about RFK Junior, and to the
audience reading her pieces, the explanation of the lies was
itself a lie. This was the second politician she covered
and covered. She told the old boyfriend that the boyfriend
(57:12):
to be was a stalker. She told the boyfriend to
be that the then incumbent boyfriend was a stalker. She
called some other reader a stalker? How many politicians and
how many stalkers are there? And what God help us
about her profile of Rudy Giuliani more seriously and more
(57:34):
ominously after this excerpt and the Lizar response and the response,
the laugh out loud response to the excerpt, how can
Condy Nast and Vanity Fair keep her employed now? Even
in her phony maloney job. This was her comeback. Now
(57:59):
She's gonna need an entirely new comeback from her comeback.
This is Countdown with Keith Olberman still ahead on this
(58:32):
all new edition of Countdown Nothing. This is the last
segment of the show. But first, believe it or not,
there's still new idiots to talk about, the roundup of
the misgrants, morons and Dunnan Kruger effects specimens who constitute
today's other worst persons in the world, The Bronze Trump.
(58:56):
You may have missed this. Trump has a new conspiracy
theory in which he has accused a new individual of
rigging something in twenty twenty. He rigging the twenty twenty census.
It was rigged by himself. I will be strongly endorsing
any estate Senator House memory, Great State of Indiana votes
(59:17):
against the republic Party by not allowing for redistricting for
congressional seats. The United State sounds for the state of
the Newsia. Republic Democrats are trying to steal our seats everywhere,
and we're not gonna let this happen. This all began
with the rigged census. We must keep the majority at
all costs. Republicans must fight back. Well, as an aside,
(59:41):
we all know what he means when he says we
must fight. We saw that on January sixth. This all
began with the rigged census. The census was in twenty
twenty and the president was Yep, he doesn't remember he
was president in twenty twenty. The runner up, speaking of that,
(01:00:03):
believe it or not, back from the catacombs, Bill O'Reilly Billow,
this happened in July. Otherwise he would have won. But
I missed it because it was on News Nation, the
Nickelodeon or Nicket Night for TV News, a show with
(01:00:25):
Leland Vittert who was fired from Fox. Well, so was
bill When Billow insisted that Jeffrey Epstein was tried and
convicted during the Biden presidency by Attorney General Merrick Garland.
He kept repeating this because Bill isn't always be a
(01:00:47):
moron who cannot admit he's mistaken. And now the old
age is beginning to come in. Quote, hold a press
conference and invite former General Garland. If he doesn't come there,
put an empty chair with his picture on it. Because
Garland had the information that the Trump have had for
four years. What told a press conference, invite former General Garland.
(01:01:15):
If he doesn't come there, put an empty chair of
this picture because Garland had the same information that Trump
people had for for you. This is what infuriates me
about these people. Jeffries knew the Biden administration had exactly
the same thing the Trump administration has on Epstein, exactly
because Epstein was convicted during the Biden administration. Quote that's
(01:01:36):
when even Leland vitchert on a network dedicated to letting
right wingers say the most implausible things and doing nothing
about it, not even making a big deal, not letting
on that it was a right wing network, pretending it
was neutral. But Bello said Epstein was convicted during the
Biden administration, and Leland vitterert said, hold on, Bill, you
(01:02:00):
said Epstein was convicted during the Biden administration, Epstein can
comitted suicide during the Trump administration. Bill o'relly's response to
this was eh, so he couldn't process it. He was
not just wrong, he was wrong at the top of
his voice, which isn't very top anymore. How do you
(01:02:25):
convict a guy that is dead? Leland Vitter wondered aloud.
Answer came there none. Bill O'Reilly just moved on because
he had been caught in an inescapable mistake. Bill no, like,
(01:02:46):
I don't know. How do you convict a guy that's dead?
How do you have a guest on who sounds like
he's dead? Now? Why doesn't Bill o win for something
that stupid, that wrong? That billow that Hall of Fame quality?
Well it was in July again. Sorry, next time you
(01:03:06):
want me to notice this, put it on TVTV so
our winner. It does continue as sweep by worst persons
in the world's veterans. It's all stars, it's all time greats.
On his podcast, Bill Maher reveals he is no longer
interested in going on the road to do stand up
comedy shows because of the country's intense political divide. First off,
(01:03:31):
did you know Bill Maher does comedy when I'd love
to see that. It'd be such a change. I thought
he's just there to help you sleep on Friday night
and get ready for the weekend. And I want to
be out there in this country, in this political atmosphere,
I could get shot by the left or the right.
It's a good time to not be out there. Oh
(01:03:54):
my god, Bill, what liberal would shoot you? And now
that you parrot all the Trump talking points and you
write articles about what a great dinner you had with Trump,
what conservative would bother to shoot you? I mean, I
don't want to make a joke about people getting shot,
particularly political commentators. Since I'm a political commentator, I'm opposed
(01:04:16):
to political commentators getting shot. But of all the political
commentators in America, maybe in the world, who's gonna have
no fear of this, it would be Bill Maher. Republicans
don't trust him entirely, but he's no longer of any
interest to the liberals. There's nobody watching. The only thing
he ever gets quoted on is when he says something
stupid like this, Why would anybody shoot him? When he
(01:04:41):
says something stupid and pro Nazi? The conservatives go, oh,
look it's that liberal mar Look what he said, we
must be right, and liberals don't say anything because they
don't hear about it because nobody's watching his effing show anymore. Variety,
quoting Variety, Mar says he's also tired and they travel,
(01:05:02):
and tired of being twice as funny as people who
were selling twice as many tickets as me. He noted
that because I'm on TV every week, it gives fans
less incentive to go buy tickets to see him. First
of all, the only people Bill is twice as funny
(01:05:23):
as who sell twice as many tickets as him are
the New York Jets. And the true disincentive for people
to buy tickets to see him is he sucks. Not
that I didn't sell a lot of tickets and do
great theaters, but I didn't sell arenas I was. I
(01:05:45):
must confess in exchange for the free travel once again,
I was the co host of the show between Bill
Maher's version of the Friday Night HBO Show and a
live performance he gave in Washington at an adjoining theater,
and they needed like forty five minutes few Between that,
(01:06:05):
Michael Moore and I sat up in the press box
a part of the theater one of the boxes up
there and acted like the two old guys from the Muppets. Frankly, anyway,
we did that. I participated in this and I didn't.
I had to sit there and listen, and I didn't
(01:06:26):
laugh once. And he did both the show and the
stand up show. Unbelievable. Wait, there's more. Some people who
did meaning cel Arenas frankly are not that great. But
you know, in the audience is thirty five to forty five,
(01:06:46):
they don't want to see somebody seventy. I just did
my thirteenth HBO special. I feel like that's a good
body of work. I felt they all they basically got
better as it went along. I feel like the last
one was the best one, which is a good way
to get off. The last one was the best one,
(01:07:07):
which is a good way to get off. Hmmm, well, sir,
if anybody knows that topic, it's Bill. I meant the
part about the last one was the best one. What's
wrong with you? Dear listener? Mar two days worst first
sudden in the world. I've done all the damage I
(01:07:54):
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I fault. That's countdown for today. Day three hundred and
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four of America held hostage, and just one and sixty
seven days until the scheduled end of what is now
officially his lame duck term Zenoll of Papers, unless he
is removed sooner by MAGA or by Jeffrey Epstein or
the next mystery MRI or Tile and all, or the
(01:09:02):
next reportery insults where he's from moved by a duck.
The next scheduled countdown is Monday. Until then I'm Keith Olberman.
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