September 13, 2022 • 29 mins
Today's guests are producer Jeff Shane and investigative reporter Conor Powell.
Conor is a journalist and podcast host whose latest series is Lords of Soccer, how Fifa stole the beautiful game and the largest corruption scandal in the world. He’s also the host of KT Studios' upcoming podcast, Death Island You can follow Conor on Twitter @conormpowell.
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Falling in love is the best feeling in the world.
You see stars, you feel giddy, but sometimes that makes
you do crazy things, and sometimes that means murder. Just
because the story starts out with Once upon a Times
doesn't mean it ends happily ever after. Welcome to Crazy
and Love, a production of Katie Studios and I Heart Radio.
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Today's guests are true crime producer Jeff Shane and journalist
and podcast host Connor Powell. Connor is a journalist and
podcast host whose latest podcast is Lords of Soccer, How
FIFA Stole the Beautiful Game and the Largest corruption scandal
in the World. He's also host of Katie Studio's upcoming podcast,
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Death Island. You can follow Connor on Twitter at Connor M. Powell.
Episode forty four, The Case of the Cheaters, The Family Affair,
and the Fallen Star. At six ft seven, Gavin Smith
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was a strikingly handsome man with blonde hair and a
killer smile. When he walked into a room, all eyes
were on him. Women wanted to be with him and
men wanted to be him. But despite the attention, Gavin
remained humble. He was a generous and kind man who
would give you the shirt off his back. In January,
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at twenty three years old, he was working as a
waiter at an upscale restaurant in Los Angeles. That's when
he met Lisa. Lisa, like Gavin, had blonde hair and
tan skin. They looked like kenn and Barbie. Gavin was
immediately attracted to Lisa and flirted with her as he
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served dinner. By the time the check came, he got
her number and her heart. The couple had a fast romance,
getting engaged as five months later and were married in
November the same year. Lisa owned her own accounting firm
and was the breadwinner for the couple, while John served
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as golf caddy and acted in bit parts in movies.
Lisa worked full time and gave birth to three sons.
By the time baby number three came, Gavin was thirty nine,
and Lisa demanded that her husband get a real nine
to five jobs so that he could help support their
growing family. Gavin obliged, and, working a connection from the
Ritzy golf course he caddied at, got an entry level
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position at twentieth Century Fox, making forty dollars a year,
but his affability helped him rise in the ranks. Quickly,
and he soon was a high powered, well respected film distributor.
Lisa was able to sell her business and become a
stay at home mom. Despite all the new responsibilities, Gavin
still made time for his family. His boys, who were
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every bit as handsome and athletic as their dad, were
the center of his universe. Living in a beautiful mansion
in a Los Angeles suburb, Gavin Smith almost had it all.
Here's Jeff. His job at Fox wasn't the first time
Gavin had success. In college, she played basketball under the
iconic coach John Wooden, and he was on the championship team,
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and you know, for anyone who knows basketball like this
was a big deal. And it's no surprise that Gavin
dreamt of playing in the NBA. But when he wasn't
drafted after college, he was crushed and he ended up
running off to the mountains for five or six days
to cool off, and during this time no one knew
where he was. But when he got back, he was
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flying back to his old self. So he really just
needed that time to kind of decompress. And back in
present day, it seemed that Gavin and Lisa really weren't
doing as well as outside appearances may have led you
to believe despite earning a hundred and eighty thousand dollars
a year, the couple had bought their home at the
height of the housing market, and the two thousand and
eight financial really hurt them. They were living beyond their means.
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The market value of their home plunge to less than
the balance ode on the mortgage, which meant they were
completely underwater financially. So it's not a surprise that Gavin
and Lisa were in the midst of trying to sell
their house, Yeah, Connor, And to make matters worse, Gavin
also wanted to retire from his cushy job at Fox
and pursue acting again. His wife Lisa, though, was concerned
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that they literally couldn't afford to do that, and not surprisingly,
the financial issues were causing a rift in the once
idyllic relationship. Gavin and Lisa were in a bit of
a dark place in their marriage and constantly getting into fights,
and Gavin had even talked about being depressed. So Connor,
in your podcast Lords of Soccer, you explore kind of
the underbelly of soccer and how crime and corruption kind
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of has fallen into this world and in thinking about
Gavin and his mediorc rise in college basketball and not
being able to be draft it, what can you tell
us about athletes frame of mind and their psyche after
you know, being kind of celebrities in the college world
and then falling into nothing after not getting drafted and
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going back to the start. Yeah, I mean, it's not
a guess as surprise that Gavin, you know, serve entered
a dark period of his life after not getting drafted.
He had played at u c. L A, which I
mean in the nineteen seventies that was the epitome of sports,
not only college sports, but just really sports in America,
playing for John Wooden and not to get drafted. I mean,
that would have been the end of his entire career.
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He had probably been playing basketball since he was a kid,
practicing year round, being recruited by the top schools in
the country, plane on a championship team, and then literally
in the blink of an eye, you know, snap of
the finger, it's over. There's no place to play if
you don't get drafted out of college. So I'm not
surprised he went dark and probably tried to have to,
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you know, reevaluate his life, and you know, he sounds
like he stumbled into acting is something that he wanted
to pursue, probably to try to grab onto that sort
of rush of celebrity and fame and being held up
on a pedestal. To make matters worse, Gavin had been
dealing with a long standing back injury from his basketball days.
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Plagued with chronic discomfort, he was prescribed painkillers, which he
soon got addicted to. While Gavin still managed to get
to work every day, his addiction became out of control
and Lesa begged him to go to rehab. Wanting to
save his marriage, Gavin obliged and had its treatment in
two thousand seven. Like most things in his life, Gavin
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succeeded and was able to kick the habit. Here's connor. However,
when he was in rehab, he picked up a new addiction,
a thirty three year old woman named Shandrica Creech. Fifty
seven year old Gavin had become a group leader at
the rehab facility in Shandrica enrolled there for her alcohol problem.
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Always wanting to help others, Gavin took a liking to
the assualt re Burnette, and by two thousand and eight,
their rehab relationship was getting hot and heavy. When Gavin
got out of rehab, he continued seeing Shandraka behind Lisa's back. However,
in July of two thousand and nine, Lisa became aware
of the relationship and confronted her husband Gavin. The couple
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decided to go to counseling, and Lisa truly believed the
affair was over. However, despite all of that, things really
just weren't working in the marriage, and Gavin moved out
of the family home. While Lisa was holding firm with Gavin,
she was telling friends behind his back that she felt
like they would ultimately get through their issues and for her,
this move out was more of a scare tactic to
put Davin back on the right track. Despite all that,
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the eldest son in the family was distraught, tweeting publicly
quote thoughts and prayers out to my amazing mom and bros.
Please my dad decided to leave the family last night.
Real family sticks together end quote. And there was another problem,
a big problem. Schandrica was also married to a man
named John Creech. Now John was a former dealer turned
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steroid taking bodybuilder. It's not really the type of guy
you want to mess with. John found out about the
affair after seeing his wife's cell phone bill and was
less forgiving. John got physical, roughing up Shandraka, shoving her
and pushing her. It was bad enough that she had
to end things with Gavin, and aside from being a
wife beater, John was also not faithful to his wife.
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At the time Schandrico was with Gavin, forty two year
old John was dating an eighteen year old Tye school senior.
He was basically obsessed with this girl and would send
her love sick texts like I don't want to come
off with that guy to other people, you know, the
older perv or something. Even though my slash our intentions
are genuine, a lot of people won't see it that way.
I like you because of you, not your age. I'm
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not giving up, I mean to me, Connor, this sounds
like grooming at its finest. What do you make of
kind of this weird sick love square because it's involving
four people instead of three. I mean, John sounds like
exactly the type of person you don't want to mess with.
Right and and he's been a drug dealer, he's on steroids,
he's grooming a young girl for a relationship that she
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probably isn't ready for, and he shouldn't be in not
only because of his age, but also more importantly because
he's married. So this is just not the type of
situation that, if you are Gavin, that you want to
get tangled up with. But it doesn't appear that he
was willing to give up Shandrica, even despite all the
baggage that she brought to the relationship, right, I mean,
I guess it's like they met and rehab, which maybe
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is a time when they were feeling especially vulnerable, and
so they kind of lashed onto each other as kind
of trauma survivors of we gave up this addiction and
now we found each other, and that kind of seems
like their new vice. Yeah, it was definitely a vice.
And you know, I think anyone listen knows this isn't
going to end well for anyone. And do you know anything,
Honnor about steroids. I mean, having worked on a true
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crime podcast called Lords of Soccer about people in the
sports world, I imagine you know, steroids come up and
I've heard that it changes your personality. Can you tell
us anything about what taking stories might do to someone's
psyche or the way they handle rage. Yeah, steroids, Um,
you know impact your body physically, presumably in a better
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way to make you stronger, fitter, faster, but they also
mess with your chemical in your mind as well. And
people who tell steroids are prone to anger, prone to
fits of instability. And if you add that on to
somebody who already has a criminal background, you know you're
talking about a personality that is really not a stable
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personality and probably tends towards violence. On May second, Gavin
was supposed to pick up his son and drive him
to school, but he never showed up. Despite all the
drama Gavin and Lisa had been through, he was always
a present father. Bailing was just not like him. The
boy had to get to school, so he called a
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friend and got a ride. By the end of the
school day, Gavin was still not answering, so as son
told Lisa, Lisa called Gavin's office, who told her he
hadn't been at work. Now officially concerned, Lisa filed a
missing person's report To understand what was happening with Gavin's disappearance.
We should go back a couple of years. In December
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of two thousand and ten, Lisa and Gavin were trying
to deal with his infidelity. Lisa had thought he had
broken things off with his mistress, Sandrica, but Gavin broke
the news to her that that was not in fact
the case. He had recently rekindled things with the young woman,
but it got worse. Shandrica's husband, John, also knew about
the affair, and to say it was unhappy, it's probably
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a mild statement. Gavin showed Lisa some of the emails
he had received from John. One of them read, I'm
gonna get you, Gavin, your wife is getting a copy
of all these emails. Your fuck You'll prick. Gavin was pissed.
Gavin told Lisa that John was a dangerous drug dealer
who had threatened him. Gavin agreed to change his phone
number and his email addresses. So let's just get this
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because there's a lot of different names and a lot
of different players. Gavin and Lisa are married for a
long time and have children together. Gavin goes to rehab
and meets Sandrica and they start having an affair. It
turns out Shandrica is married to a man named John
who is this kind of would be criminal and Gavin
tells his wife Lisa about the affair. She attempts to
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forgive him. John finds out about his wife Shandrica's affair
and is pissed and starts texting Gavin the other man
all these threatening things, and so at this time, Gavin
then has to tell his wife Lisa about his affair
and this threatening husband. I almost feel bad for Lisa's
not only she finding out about the affair, which is
bad enough and crushing, She's also finding out that the
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husband of the woman who her own husband is having
an affair with seems to be a psychopath and is
not stable and is threatening her husband John Yeah Connor.
And it seems that she was maybe not thinking straight
because what she did next is a little debatable. Lisa
told her three sons about their father's infidelity and the
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situation with John. So what happened next was Lisa, her
nineteen year old son, and her fourteen year old son
decided to confront the situation and talk to John face
to face. They were thinking that perhaps if they showed
him that they too were hurt by this whole thing,
that John would come down and leave the family alone.
Who could be angry with two teenage boys. I mean,
this is the definition of not thinking clearly. Lisa tells
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your sons about the affair, which is understandable, but then
she brings them to meet with John to try to
stop him. This is the guy who's a drug dealing,
steroid using and presumably very violent guy. This seems like
a horrible choice in a series of bad decisions by
several people. Lisa and her two teenage sons drove to
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John's house, and as Lisa waited in the car, the
two boys knocked on his door, and according to these
two teenagers, when they first introduced themselves to John, he
was very angry. John told them he was furious with
Gavin for sleeping with his wife Andrika. The two boys
both cried, and the fourteen year old begged John not
to hurt his dad. He allegedly told him, I'm in
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eighth grade. I'm too young to lose my dad. He
went on to apologize for his dad's behavior at least
a hundred times and pled for John not to hurt
his family. John allegedly told the boys that he had
been following Gavin and he knew where the kids went
to school, but Towards the end of the conversation, John
began to calm down a little bit, and he told
the boys that by coming over and having this conversation,
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they had saved their father's life. We're going to take
a break. We'll be back in just a moment. Back
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in two thousand twelve, Gavin was missing. His family was
hopeful that his disappearance was similar to when he went
off the grid after not making the NBA, but things
felt different this time. Aavn was now a father of
three and had a good job. He wouldn't abandon his responsibilities.
Lisa informed the detectives about his affair with Chandraca. They
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soon went to speak with her. When detectives arrived at
her house, Sandrico wouldn't let them inside, but would speak
to them on the porch. She admitted to the affair,
but told them she had no idea where Gavin was.
Detectives had a feeling that Shandrico wasn't being completely upfront
with them, so they had an undercover informant bade her
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into telling the full story. It turns out Chandrika really
wasn't honest with the police. During their first meeting, she
told the informant a completely different story. According to her,
on the last night Gavin was seen alive, on May first,
two thousand and twelve, they had decided to meet up
around eleven pm in a remote area of town to
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fool around. She got into Gavin's black Mercedes and sat
on his lap on the passenger side of the car. Now,
according to her, what happened next was that suddenly John
showed up and pulled the door open. He had tracked
her using the map function on their phones Family plan. Now,
according to Chandrika, she jumped off of Gavin and the
two men began yelling at each other. Before she knew it,
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John was on top of Gavin in the car, punching
him repeatedly in the face, too many times to count,
she said. As the beating continued, she could hear Gavin moaning,
but he wasn't really moving. She allegedly yelled at John
to stop and that he was going to kill Gavin,
but he didn't, and so at this point, Schandrika was
very scared, and she ran towards John's car and drove off.
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As she sped off, John allegedly yelled towards the car,
you're next so Sandraca then went home, and later John
showed up. He was covered in blood, his knuckles were
all scratched up. John apparently told Schandrika they needed to
go back to get Gavin and drive him to the hospital. Terrified,
Chandrika listened, but when they arrived back at the scene,
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Gavin was dead. The couple drove back to their house
and John started calling friends who thought would help them
clean up the murder. Shandraca told the informant that somehow
blood had gotten on her clothes, so she burned them
in the fireplace along with John's and John ended up
finding a friend who would let them part the car
in his garage while Gavin's body was still inside it.
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So five days go by and John and Schondrica knew
that they needed a better long term plan for the
car and Gavin's body, so they ended up recruiting Shandrica's
grandmother's home care aid to rent a storage unit and
a U haul truck for them. The aid, for some reason,
decided to go along with this and got them the
storage unit and the truck, and John took Gavin's body
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about an hour and a half outside of Los Angeles
to bury it. He then told the Mercedes with his
truck to the storage unit and locked it up. So
police had all this information from their undercover informant, but
they needed the physical evidence before making any arrest, so
they sat on the story, meaning that while they were
investigating Gavin's family was still hoping he might be found alive,
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they were out searching form hanging up missing posters, pleading
with a public for information. Almost a year went by
and the police ended up getting a tip from Shandrica's
grandmother's aid, the one who had rented the storage facility
and the U haul. She told the cops about the
storage facility and the bloody car inside of it. Perhaps
she felt guilty about helping cover something up, but she
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also ended up getting full immunity before the information, so
that probably helps offten the blow. Honnor, what do you
make of the informants information? I mean, how much in
your experience can police trust what an informant tells them
about a possible criminal So, as I learned doing the
Lords of Soccer podcasts about FIFA's corruption, um, you know,
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informants played a huge role in bringing this massive criminal
corruption case against the guys who run global soccer, And
it literally started with a guy named Chuck Blazer who
didn't pay his US taxes. And when the prosecutors and
the FBI went to Chuck Blazer and basically said, we
know you're not paying taxes. We want you to flip
on everybody and uh FIFA and basically tell us how
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they're all doing things dodgy. He was the key to
that case. And in most cases, some type of informant
or somebody flipping somebody who knows what's going on and
gets a deal from a prosecutor. You know, that's really
what ends up making a lot of these big cases
and their key because you've got to have somebody who
literally knows where the bodies are buried, and an informant
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like the grandmother's homemade you know, that's probably more valuable
to the police in this situation than anything else. I
guess with informants, it's kind of like the ends justify
the means, and so if they can give a criminal
some leeway and he or she provides the information, then
the police can get an even bigger criminal who's committed
to even worth crime. In March two thousand thirteen, police
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located the storage facility, and when they opened it, they
found Gavin's blood soaked Mercedes. The car was a gruesome
crime scene. Detectives found Gavin's skins stuck to the car's
leather seat. They also identified bloodstains inside the Mercedes and
on the rear bumper that matched Gavin's DNA. Despite the
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heartbreaking ending, Gavin's family could finally declare him dead. When
Lisa found out, she was inconsolable, crying for ninety minutes straight.
Even though their marriage had been crumbling, she still had
love for him. Police still hadn't located Gavin's remains, which
for them was the last piece of the puzzle they
needed to charge John with murder. On October, two and
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a half years after disappearing, a hiker stumbled upon the
skeletal remains of Gavin Smith. The medical examiner determined that
the former movie executive had been badly beaten. The damage
to his skull was equivalent to falling from a second
story building face first. Finally, in January of two thousand
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and fifteen, John Creech was charged with first degree murder.
Cops had an easy time finding them because he was
already incarcerated for dealing drugs. Despite the damning evidence against him,
John pleaded not guilty. All of his cohorts, including Shandrica,
had made deals with the district attorney in exchange for
their testimonies against John, they would receive full immunity. When
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Shandraka took the stand, she recounted the moment she watched
her husband beat her lover Gavin to death. How many
times did the definist strike John? Honestly too many times
to count, doesn't She was asked why she didn't come
forward with the information earlier. This was her answer, why
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didn't you go and tell anybody about it? Because I
thought I'd get in trouble for telling them later instead
of immediately. So, Connor, I mean, do you buy the
fact that she says she was afraid. What's your take
on her testimony. I don't doubt that she was afraid.
It seems like she may have been more of a
willing participant than she said on the stand. You know,
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she did help cover up the murderer. She did help
hide it. She also appears to have basically worked with
him over a long period of time to make sure,
you know that the body stayed covered up, you know,
and hidden and that the vehicle stayed hidden and they
cleaned up. She burned her own clothes and burned John's clothes,
So she was a much more active participant than she
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likes to say. But I don't doubt that she was
also scared for her life. What is the line between
being scared for your life and helping cover something up willingly?
Only she would know that. But it does seem like
she was way more participant of this murder than, you know,
than she wants to admit to herself, right, I mean,
even if we believe this story that she told the
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informat fully, she got in a vehicle and was by
herself and willingly went home to wait for John. I mean,
she could have gone straight to a police station, she
could have called the police, but instead she decided to
just kind of go along with it willingly. Yeah. I
think that's really the thing is in that first seconds,
if you cared about Gavin, he would think somebody like
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Shandrico would call an ambulance, go to the police immediately.
But she went home where that's the most obvious place
that John's gonna look for her. Right, So it doesn't
seem like she was doing anything out of concern or
care for Gavin. It was simply I'm gonna go home
and deal with the problem that they're now facing. So
John also took the stand to try to defend himself.
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Here he is, have a listen. It was a quick sequence,
like he pulled stuck up right there and he's just
penning my head against it. Even he's got a long
reach and he just penning my head up against the ceiling.
And at that point is when I pressed off. I
was just like, you know, I just went in to
you know, fight or flight mode. And at that point
when he especially when he bit down to my thumb,
I really tripped out. But the prosecution countered with a
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witness who saw John after the murder. The witness said
that John's hand was swollen roughly twice the size of
its normal hand size, and he had no other injuries
on his face, which would imply he had been the
one doing all of the hitting. Other witnesses also spoke
about how Gavin was a peaceful man who wouldn't hurt anyone.
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Having covered a fair amount of true crime over your career,
what do you make of someone just throwing out the
self defense defense. Well, there's probably some truth to self
defense in a lot of cases, but it seems as
if John was sort of hunting Gavin, hunting his family.
He obviously followed Shandrika to her meet up with Gavin,
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and it doesn't appear that he suffered any bodily harm
in the altercation with Gavin. So it's hard to say
that that's self defenses. I think most people would recognize
and understand self defense. It sounds like he was essentially
stalking him, he had made threats against him, and then
he essentially beat him to death. Let's stop here for
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another break. As both the prosecution and defense rested, the
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jury was faced with a choice of first degree murder,
second degree murder, or voluntary manslaughter. After less than one
hour of deliberating, nine women and three men acquitted John
on the first two charges. John was convicted of voluntary manslaughter.
For Gavin's family, it was a devastating blow. Voluntary manslaughter
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meant that the jury believed that the murder was not premeditated,
but rather a crime of passion. It only carried a
maximum sentence of eleven years. At the sentencing hearing, Lisa
made an impassioned speech, this man chats wife with my
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husband being dead in a car, leaving had car for
days and someone else's stands like the body man and
the queen's house, traces him into a van. Please about
to a desert, complains on the stand about his four
biceps and having to dray right less than twenty five
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yards and being into death and then he couldn't get
down in there because he hadn't dug it deep enough.
Because my bodies that my husband's body was in bad
condition of day sex. He killed him. I would have
been a worse in the world. But no, he hadn't
take him high him. He wanted us to never ever
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find And I hope that he his life for the
drug conviction, felloy, federal file and jet file, and I
hope he said the rest of his life and pritty.
He shouldn't be a moss, needs to be at walls
like an animal that he is. The judge handed John
the maximum eleven year sentence. He will be eligible for
parole in January. Connor, thanks for coming on the podcast.
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Tell us again about your podcast Lords of Soccer and
where we can find it. Yeah, if you like true
crime stories, this is the mother of all true crime
and corruption stories. It's a global corruption scandal that started
decades ago with essentially a few people who ran global
soccer again. It's called The Lords of Soccer, How FIFA
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Stole the Beautiful Game, And it's available everywhere you listen
to podcasts. Connor, you are also hosting Katie Studios upcoming
podcast Death Island. Can you tell us a little bit
about that? Yeah? And this is another just sort of
incredible story. It's all about an island in Thailand called
koto which, on the surface seems like a beautiful diving paradise,
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crystal clear waters, you know, perfect beaches. But over the
course of the last twenty years, there have been just
a string of deadly, grizzly death. Some of them are
very clearly murder, some of them could be accidents. Some
of them we don't know. And the problem and the
reason we don't know, and the reason we're looking into
Kotao and the people who run this island is it's
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run by mafia like figures, a small group of people
who basically want to keep the party going and the
money flowing. And so anytime somebody dies there, whether it's
clearly a murder or an accident, it just all gets
brushed the side and blamed on somebody who isn't going
to prevent the good times the money from flowing onto
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this island. And it's basically a mafia run island that
has this horrible string of deaths and it's a really
fascinating story and it's coming out this fall. Shameless plug.
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Falling in love is the best feeling in the world.
You see stars, you feel giddy, but sometimes that makes
you do crazy things, and sometimes that means murder. Just
because the story starts out with Once upon a Times
doesn't mean it ends happily ever after. Welcome to Crazy
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and podcast host Connor Powell. Connor is a journalist and
podcast host whose latest podcast is Lords of Soccer, How
FIFA Stole the Beautiful Game and the Largest corruption scandal
in the World. He's also host of Katie Studio's upcoming podcast,
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Death Island. You can follow Connor on Twitter at Connor M. Powell.
Episode forty four, The Case of the Cheaters, The Family Affair,
and the Fallen Star. At six ft seven, Gavin Smith
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was a strikingly handsome man with blonde hair and a
killer smile. When he walked into a room, all eyes
were on him. Women wanted to be with him and
men wanted to be him. But despite the attention, Gavin
remained humble. He was a generous and kind man who
would give you the shirt off his back. In January,
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at twenty three years old, he was working as a
waiter at an upscale restaurant in Los Angeles. That's when
he met Lisa. Lisa, like Gavin, had blonde hair and
tan skin. They looked like kenn and Barbie. Gavin was
immediately attracted to Lisa and flirted with her as he
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served dinner. By the time the check came, he got
her number and her heart. The couple had a fast romance,
getting engaged as five months later and were married in
November the same year. Lisa owned her own accounting firm
and was the breadwinner for the couple, while John served
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as golf caddy and acted in bit parts in movies.
Lisa worked full time and gave birth to three sons.
By the time baby number three came, Gavin was thirty nine,
and Lisa demanded that her husband get a real nine
to five jobs so that he could help support their
growing family. Gavin obliged, and, working a connection from the
Ritzy golf course he caddied at, got an entry level
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position at twentieth Century Fox, making forty dollars a year,
but his affability helped him rise in the ranks. Quickly,
and he soon was a high powered, well respected film distributor.
Lisa was able to sell her business and become a
stay at home mom. Despite all the new responsibilities, Gavin
still made time for his family. His boys, who were
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every bit as handsome and athletic as their dad, were
the center of his universe. Living in a beautiful mansion
in a Los Angeles suburb, Gavin Smith almost had it all.
Here's Jeff. His job at Fox wasn't the first time
Gavin had success. In college, she played basketball under the
iconic coach John Wooden, and he was on the championship team,
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and you know, for anyone who knows basketball like this
was a big deal. And it's no surprise that Gavin
dreamt of playing in the NBA. But when he wasn't
drafted after college, he was crushed and he ended up
running off to the mountains for five or six days
to cool off, and during this time no one knew
where he was. But when he got back, he was
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flying back to his old self. So he really just
needed that time to kind of decompress. And back in
present day, it seemed that Gavin and Lisa really weren't
doing as well as outside appearances may have led you
to believe despite earning a hundred and eighty thousand dollars
a year, the couple had bought their home at the
height of the housing market, and the two thousand and
eight financial really hurt them. They were living beyond their means.
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The market value of their home plunge to less than
the balance ode on the mortgage, which meant they were
completely underwater financially. So it's not a surprise that Gavin
and Lisa were in the midst of trying to sell
their house, Yeah, Connor, And to make matters worse, Gavin
also wanted to retire from his cushy job at Fox
and pursue acting again. His wife Lisa, though, was concerned
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that they literally couldn't afford to do that, and not surprisingly,
the financial issues were causing a rift in the once
idyllic relationship. Gavin and Lisa were in a bit of
a dark place in their marriage and constantly getting into fights,
and Gavin had even talked about being depressed. So Connor,
in your podcast Lords of Soccer, you explore kind of
the underbelly of soccer and how crime and corruption kind
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of has fallen into this world and in thinking about
Gavin and his mediorc rise in college basketball and not
being able to be draft it, what can you tell
us about athletes frame of mind and their psyche after
you know, being kind of celebrities in the college world
and then falling into nothing after not getting drafted and
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going back to the start. Yeah, I mean, it's not
a guess as surprise that Gavin, you know, serve entered
a dark period of his life after not getting drafted.
He had played at u c. L A, which I
mean in the nineteen seventies that was the epitome of sports,
not only college sports, but just really sports in America,
playing for John Wooden and not to get drafted. I mean,
that would have been the end of his entire career.
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He had probably been playing basketball since he was a kid,
practicing year round, being recruited by the top schools in
the country, plane on a championship team, and then literally
in the blink of an eye, you know, snap of
the finger, it's over. There's no place to play if
you don't get drafted out of college. So I'm not
surprised he went dark and probably tried to have to,
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you know, reevaluate his life, and you know, he sounds
like he stumbled into acting is something that he wanted
to pursue, probably to try to grab onto that sort
of rush of celebrity and fame and being held up
on a pedestal. To make matters worse, Gavin had been
dealing with a long standing back injury from his basketball days.
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Plagued with chronic discomfort, he was prescribed painkillers, which he
soon got addicted to. While Gavin still managed to get
to work every day, his addiction became out of control
and Lesa begged him to go to rehab. Wanting to
save his marriage, Gavin obliged and had its treatment in
two thousand seven. Like most things in his life, Gavin
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succeeded and was able to kick the habit. Here's connor. However,
when he was in rehab, he picked up a new addiction,
a thirty three year old woman named Shandrica Creech. Fifty
seven year old Gavin had become a group leader at
the rehab facility in Shandrica enrolled there for her alcohol problem.
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Always wanting to help others, Gavin took a liking to
the assualt re Burnette, and by two thousand and eight,
their rehab relationship was getting hot and heavy. When Gavin
got out of rehab, he continued seeing Shandraka behind Lisa's back. However,
in July of two thousand and nine, Lisa became aware
of the relationship and confronted her husband Gavin. The couple
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decided to go to counseling, and Lisa truly believed the
affair was over. However, despite all of that, things really
just weren't working in the marriage, and Gavin moved out
of the family home. While Lisa was holding firm with Gavin,
she was telling friends behind his back that she felt
like they would ultimately get through their issues and for her,
this move out was more of a scare tactic to
put Davin back on the right track. Despite all that,
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the eldest son in the family was distraught, tweeting publicly
quote thoughts and prayers out to my amazing mom and bros.
Please my dad decided to leave the family last night.
Real family sticks together end quote. And there was another problem,
a big problem. Schandrica was also married to a man
named John Creech. Now John was a former dealer turned
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steroid taking bodybuilder. It's not really the type of guy
you want to mess with. John found out about the
affair after seeing his wife's cell phone bill and was
less forgiving. John got physical, roughing up Shandraka, shoving her
and pushing her. It was bad enough that she had
to end things with Gavin, and aside from being a
wife beater, John was also not faithful to his wife.
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At the time Schandrico was with Gavin, forty two year
old John was dating an eighteen year old Tye school senior.
He was basically obsessed with this girl and would send
her love sick texts like I don't want to come
off with that guy to other people, you know, the
older perv or something. Even though my slash our intentions
are genuine, a lot of people won't see it that way.
I like you because of you, not your age. I'm
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not giving up, I mean to me, Connor, this sounds
like grooming at its finest. What do you make of
kind of this weird sick love square because it's involving
four people instead of three. I mean, John sounds like
exactly the type of person you don't want to mess with.
Right and and he's been a drug dealer, he's on steroids,
he's grooming a young girl for a relationship that she
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probably isn't ready for, and he shouldn't be in not
only because of his age, but also more importantly because
he's married. So this is just not the type of
situation that, if you are Gavin, that you want to
get tangled up with. But it doesn't appear that he
was willing to give up Shandrica, even despite all the
baggage that she brought to the relationship, right, I mean,
I guess it's like they met and rehab, which maybe
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is a time when they were feeling especially vulnerable, and
so they kind of lashed onto each other as kind
of trauma survivors of we gave up this addiction and
now we found each other, and that kind of seems
like their new vice. Yeah, it was definitely a vice.
And you know, I think anyone listen knows this isn't
going to end well for anyone. And do you know anything,
Honnor about steroids. I mean, having worked on a true
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crime podcast called Lords of Soccer about people in the
sports world, I imagine you know, steroids come up and
I've heard that it changes your personality. Can you tell
us anything about what taking stories might do to someone's
psyche or the way they handle rage. Yeah, steroids, Um,
you know impact your body physically, presumably in a better
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way to make you stronger, fitter, faster, but they also
mess with your chemical in your mind as well. And
people who tell steroids are prone to anger, prone to
fits of instability. And if you add that on to
somebody who already has a criminal background, you know you're
talking about a personality that is really not a stable
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personality and probably tends towards violence. On May second, Gavin
was supposed to pick up his son and drive him
to school, but he never showed up. Despite all the
drama Gavin and Lisa had been through, he was always
a present father. Bailing was just not like him. The
boy had to get to school, so he called a
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friend and got a ride. By the end of the
school day, Gavin was still not answering, so as son
told Lisa, Lisa called Gavin's office, who told her he
hadn't been at work. Now officially concerned, Lisa filed a
missing person's report To understand what was happening with Gavin's disappearance.
We should go back a couple of years. In December
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of two thousand and ten, Lisa and Gavin were trying
to deal with his infidelity. Lisa had thought he had
broken things off with his mistress, Sandrica, but Gavin broke
the news to her that that was not in fact
the case. He had recently rekindled things with the young woman,
but it got worse. Shandrica's husband, John, also knew about
the affair, and to say it was unhappy, it's probably
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a mild statement. Gavin showed Lisa some of the emails
he had received from John. One of them read, I'm
gonna get you, Gavin, your wife is getting a copy
of all these emails. Your fuck You'll prick. Gavin was pissed.
Gavin told Lisa that John was a dangerous drug dealer
who had threatened him. Gavin agreed to change his phone
number and his email addresses. So let's just get this
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because there's a lot of different names and a lot
of different players. Gavin and Lisa are married for a
long time and have children together. Gavin goes to rehab
and meets Sandrica and they start having an affair. It
turns out Shandrica is married to a man named John
who is this kind of would be criminal and Gavin
tells his wife Lisa about the affair. She attempts to
(12:21):
forgive him. John finds out about his wife Shandrica's affair
and is pissed and starts texting Gavin the other man
all these threatening things, and so at this time, Gavin
then has to tell his wife Lisa about his affair
and this threatening husband. I almost feel bad for Lisa's
not only she finding out about the affair, which is
bad enough and crushing, She's also finding out that the
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husband of the woman who her own husband is having
an affair with seems to be a psychopath and is
not stable and is threatening her husband John Yeah Connor.
And it seems that she was maybe not thinking straight
because what she did next is a little debatable. Lisa
told her three sons about their father's infidelity and the
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situation with John. So what happened next was Lisa, her
nineteen year old son, and her fourteen year old son
decided to confront the situation and talk to John face
to face. They were thinking that perhaps if they showed
him that they too were hurt by this whole thing,
that John would come down and leave the family alone.
Who could be angry with two teenage boys. I mean,
this is the definition of not thinking clearly. Lisa tells
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your sons about the affair, which is understandable, but then
she brings them to meet with John to try to
stop him. This is the guy who's a drug dealing,
steroid using and presumably very violent guy. This seems like
a horrible choice in a series of bad decisions by
several people. Lisa and her two teenage sons drove to
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John's house, and as Lisa waited in the car, the
two boys knocked on his door, and according to these
two teenagers, when they first introduced themselves to John, he
was very angry. John told them he was furious with
Gavin for sleeping with his wife Andrika. The two boys
both cried, and the fourteen year old begged John not
to hurt his dad. He allegedly told him, I'm in
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eighth grade. I'm too young to lose my dad. He
went on to apologize for his dad's behavior at least
a hundred times and pled for John not to hurt
his family. John allegedly told the boys that he had
been following Gavin and he knew where the kids went
to school, but Towards the end of the conversation, John
began to calm down a little bit, and he told
the boys that by coming over and having this conversation,
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they had saved their father's life. We're going to take
a break. We'll be back in just a moment. Back
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in two thousand twelve, Gavin was missing. His family was
hopeful that his disappearance was similar to when he went
off the grid after not making the NBA, but things
felt different this time. Aavn was now a father of
three and had a good job. He wouldn't abandon his responsibilities.
Lisa informed the detectives about his affair with Chandraca. They
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soon went to speak with her. When detectives arrived at
her house, Sandrico wouldn't let them inside, but would speak
to them on the porch. She admitted to the affair,
but told them she had no idea where Gavin was.
Detectives had a feeling that Shandrico wasn't being completely upfront
with them, so they had an undercover informant bade her
(15:30):
into telling the full story. It turns out Chandrika really
wasn't honest with the police. During their first meeting, she
told the informant a completely different story. According to her,
on the last night Gavin was seen alive, on May first,
two thousand and twelve, they had decided to meet up
around eleven pm in a remote area of town to
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fool around. She got into Gavin's black Mercedes and sat
on his lap on the passenger side of the car. Now,
according to her, what happened next was that suddenly John
showed up and pulled the door open. He had tracked
her using the map function on their phones Family plan. Now,
according to Chandrika, she jumped off of Gavin and the
two men began yelling at each other. Before she knew it,
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John was on top of Gavin in the car, punching
him repeatedly in the face, too many times to count,
she said. As the beating continued, she could hear Gavin moaning,
but he wasn't really moving. She allegedly yelled at John
to stop and that he was going to kill Gavin,
but he didn't, and so at this point, Schandrika was
very scared, and she ran towards John's car and drove off.
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As she sped off, John allegedly yelled towards the car,
you're next so Sandraca then went home, and later John
showed up. He was covered in blood, his knuckles were
all scratched up. John apparently told Schandrika they needed to
go back to get Gavin and drive him to the hospital. Terrified,
Chandrika listened, but when they arrived back at the scene,
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Gavin was dead. The couple drove back to their house
and John started calling friends who thought would help them
clean up the murder. Shandraca told the informant that somehow
blood had gotten on her clothes, so she burned them
in the fireplace along with John's and John ended up
finding a friend who would let them part the car
in his garage while Gavin's body was still inside it.
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So five days go by and John and Schondrica knew
that they needed a better long term plan for the
car and Gavin's body, so they ended up recruiting Shandrica's
grandmother's home care aid to rent a storage unit and
a U haul truck for them. The aid, for some reason,
decided to go along with this and got them the
storage unit and the truck, and John took Gavin's body
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about an hour and a half outside of Los Angeles
to bury it. He then told the Mercedes with his
truck to the storage unit and locked it up. So
police had all this information from their undercover informant, but
they needed the physical evidence before making any arrest, so
they sat on the story, meaning that while they were
investigating Gavin's family was still hoping he might be found alive,
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they were out searching form hanging up missing posters, pleading
with a public for information. Almost a year went by
and the police ended up getting a tip from Shandrica's
grandmother's aid, the one who had rented the storage facility
and the U haul. She told the cops about the
storage facility and the bloody car inside of it. Perhaps
she felt guilty about helping cover something up, but she
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also ended up getting full immunity before the information, so
that probably helps offten the blow. Honnor, what do you
make of the informants information? I mean, how much in
your experience can police trust what an informant tells them
about a possible criminal So, as I learned doing the
Lords of Soccer podcasts about FIFA's corruption, um, you know,
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informants played a huge role in bringing this massive criminal
corruption case against the guys who run global soccer, And
it literally started with a guy named Chuck Blazer who
didn't pay his US taxes. And when the prosecutors and
the FBI went to Chuck Blazer and basically said, we
know you're not paying taxes. We want you to flip
on everybody and uh FIFA and basically tell us how
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they're all doing things dodgy. He was the key to
that case. And in most cases, some type of informant
or somebody flipping somebody who knows what's going on and
gets a deal from a prosecutor. You know, that's really
what ends up making a lot of these big cases
and their key because you've got to have somebody who
literally knows where the bodies are buried, and an informant
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like the grandmother's homemade you know, that's probably more valuable
to the police in this situation than anything else. I
guess with informants, it's kind of like the ends justify
the means, and so if they can give a criminal
some leeway and he or she provides the information, then
the police can get an even bigger criminal who's committed
to even worth crime. In March two thousand thirteen, police
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located the storage facility, and when they opened it, they
found Gavin's blood soaked Mercedes. The car was a gruesome
crime scene. Detectives found Gavin's skins stuck to the car's
leather seat. They also identified bloodstains inside the Mercedes and
on the rear bumper that matched Gavin's DNA. Despite the
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heartbreaking ending, Gavin's family could finally declare him dead. When
Lisa found out, she was inconsolable, crying for ninety minutes straight.
Even though their marriage had been crumbling, she still had
love for him. Police still hadn't located Gavin's remains, which
for them was the last piece of the puzzle they
needed to charge John with murder. On October, two and
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a half years after disappearing, a hiker stumbled upon the
skeletal remains of Gavin Smith. The medical examiner determined that
the former movie executive had been badly beaten. The damage
to his skull was equivalent to falling from a second
story building face first. Finally, in January of two thousand
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and fifteen, John Creech was charged with first degree murder.
Cops had an easy time finding them because he was
already incarcerated for dealing drugs. Despite the damning evidence against him,
John pleaded not guilty. All of his cohorts, including Shandrica,
had made deals with the district attorney in exchange for
their testimonies against John, they would receive full immunity. When
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Shandraka took the stand, she recounted the moment she watched
her husband beat her lover Gavin to death. How many
times did the definist strike John? Honestly too many times
to count, doesn't She was asked why she didn't come
forward with the information earlier. This was her answer, why
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didn't you go and tell anybody about it? Because I
thought I'd get in trouble for telling them later instead
of immediately. So, Connor, I mean, do you buy the
fact that she says she was afraid. What's your take
on her testimony. I don't doubt that she was afraid.
It seems like she may have been more of a
willing participant than she said on the stand. You know,
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she did help cover up the murderer. She did help
hide it. She also appears to have basically worked with
him over a long period of time to make sure,
you know that the body stayed covered up, you know,
and hidden and that the vehicle stayed hidden and they
cleaned up. She burned her own clothes and burned John's clothes,
So she was a much more active participant than she
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likes to say. But I don't doubt that she was
also scared for her life. What is the line between
being scared for your life and helping cover something up willingly?
Only she would know that. But it does seem like
she was way more participant of this murder than, you know,
than she wants to admit to herself, right, I mean,
even if we believe this story that she told the
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informat fully, she got in a vehicle and was by
herself and willingly went home to wait for John. I mean,
she could have gone straight to a police station, she
could have called the police, but instead she decided to
just kind of go along with it willingly. Yeah. I
think that's really the thing is in that first seconds,
if you cared about Gavin, he would think somebody like
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Shandrico would call an ambulance, go to the police immediately.
But she went home where that's the most obvious place
that John's gonna look for her. Right, So it doesn't
seem like she was doing anything out of concern or
care for Gavin. It was simply I'm gonna go home
and deal with the problem that they're now facing. So
John also took the stand to try to defend himself.
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Here he is, have a listen. It was a quick sequence,
like he pulled stuck up right there and he's just
penning my head against it. Even he's got a long
reach and he just penning my head up against the ceiling.
And at that point is when I pressed off. I
was just like, you know, I just went in to
you know, fight or flight mode. And at that point
when he especially when he bit down to my thumb,
I really tripped out. But the prosecution countered with a
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witness who saw John after the murder. The witness said
that John's hand was swollen roughly twice the size of
its normal hand size, and he had no other injuries
on his face, which would imply he had been the
one doing all of the hitting. Other witnesses also spoke
about how Gavin was a peaceful man who wouldn't hurt anyone.
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Having covered a fair amount of true crime over your career,
what do you make of someone just throwing out the
self defense defense. Well, there's probably some truth to self
defense in a lot of cases, but it seems as
if John was sort of hunting Gavin, hunting his family.
He obviously followed Shandrika to her meet up with Gavin,
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and it doesn't appear that he suffered any bodily harm
in the altercation with Gavin. So it's hard to say
that that's self defenses. I think most people would recognize
and understand self defense. It sounds like he was essentially
stalking him, he had made threats against him, and then
he essentially beat him to death. Let's stop here for
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another break. As both the prosecution and defense rested, the
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jury was faced with a choice of first degree murder,
second degree murder, or voluntary manslaughter. After less than one
hour of deliberating, nine women and three men acquitted John
on the first two charges. John was convicted of voluntary manslaughter.
For Gavin's family, it was a devastating blow. Voluntary manslaughter
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meant that the jury believed that the murder was not premeditated,
but rather a crime of passion. It only carried a
maximum sentence of eleven years. At the sentencing hearing, Lisa
made an impassioned speech, this man chats wife with my
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husband being dead in a car, leaving had car for
days and someone else's stands like the body man and
the queen's house, traces him into a van. Please about
to a desert, complains on the stand about his four
biceps and having to dray right less than twenty five
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yards and being into death and then he couldn't get
down in there because he hadn't dug it deep enough.
Because my bodies that my husband's body was in bad
condition of day sex. He killed him. I would have
been a worse in the world. But no, he hadn't
take him high him. He wanted us to never ever
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find And I hope that he his life for the
drug conviction, felloy, federal file and jet file, and I
hope he said the rest of his life and pritty.
He shouldn't be a moss, needs to be at walls
like an animal that he is. The judge handed John
the maximum eleven year sentence. He will be eligible for
parole in January. Connor, thanks for coming on the podcast.
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Tell us again about your podcast Lords of Soccer and
where we can find it. Yeah, if you like true
crime stories, this is the mother of all true crime
and corruption stories. It's a global corruption scandal that started
decades ago with essentially a few people who ran global
soccer again. It's called The Lords of Soccer, How FIFA
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Stole the Beautiful Game, And it's available everywhere you listen
to podcasts. Connor, you are also hosting Katie Studios upcoming
podcast Death Island. Can you tell us a little bit
about that? Yeah? And this is another just sort of
incredible story. It's all about an island in Thailand called
koto which, on the surface seems like a beautiful diving paradise,
(27:51):
crystal clear waters, you know, perfect beaches. But over the
course of the last twenty years, there have been just
a string of deadly, grizzly death. Some of them are
very clearly murder, some of them could be accidents. Some
of them we don't know. And the problem and the
reason we don't know, and the reason we're looking into
Kotao and the people who run this island is it's
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run by mafia like figures, a small group of people
who basically want to keep the party going and the
money flowing. And so anytime somebody dies there, whether it's
clearly a murder or an accident, it just all gets
brushed the side and blamed on somebody who isn't going
to prevent the good times the money from flowing onto
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this island. And it's basically a mafia run island that
has this horrible string of deaths and it's a really
fascinating story and it's coming out this fall. Shameless plug.
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