October 2, 2024 • 41 mins
Allegations against Sean Combs are growing. An attorney announced that his firm has been contacted by more than 3,285 people claiming to have been victimized by Combs.
After vetting, 120 individuals plan to file civil claims against Combs and others. Among these allegations, 60 are males, 60 are females, and 25 were minors at the time of the reported incidents. The youngest victim was nine years old at the time of the occurrence.
Another lawsuit will be filed by an anonymous woman who claims she was drugged, raped, and impregnated by Combs when she met him overseas. Additionally, attorney Ariel Mitchell-Kidd announced plans to file suit on behalf of a victim who alleges Combs raped her in 2018.
Mitchell-Kidd described the incident, stating that Combs assaulted her client at a small gathering hosted by a mutual friend with ties to the music industry. The client managed to escape and filed a police report the same night, but was initially too afraid to name.
JOINING NANCY GRACE TODAY:
- Ariel Mitchell-Kidd - Civil Litigation Attorney representing a client in a high-profile case involving allegations against Sean "Diddy" Combs; All social media platforms: @Arielesq305
- Dr. Leslie Dobson - Clinical and Forensic Psychologist; Author of "The Friend Cleanse: How to set boundaries with energy vampires;" X: @drlesliedobson
- Brian Fitzgibbons – VP of Operations for USPA Nationwide Security; Instagram: @uspa_nationwide_security, Kingsman Philanthropic’s 2022 rescue missions of women and children in Ukraine, Iraq War Veteranide_security
- Lynn Shaw - Founder and Executive Director of Lynn's Warriors (an organization committed to ending human trafficking and sexual exploitation); X: @lynns_warriors Youtube: @LynnsWarriors
- Alex West - Entertainment Reporter, The Mirror; themirror.com; IG/TW/TIKTOK: @alexwestnyc
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Do I need a toll free number one nine nine, Diddy,
meliss you. Now, over one hundred sex assault victims have
been vetted, according to a lawyer, after over three thousand
people have contacted lawyers regarding alleged abuse at the hands
(00:32):
of Sean Comb's. This as disturbing claims emerging tonight regarding
sex assault on miners, miners trying to break into showbiz.
Good evening, I'm Nancy Grace, this is Crime Stories. Thank
you for being with us. Did he boohoo? Sean Puffy
(00:55):
Combs whining incessantly refusing jails. Dude, Oh no, it's not
a plant parm Nancy, it's chicken parm.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
No, don't care.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
I am I supposed to care that Diddy's got a
t t into a metal urinal. I don't care, don't care,
don't care, bs, Bs, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Bs.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
The day will come.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
When we will name names other than Seaw Colmes, and
there's a lot of names.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
It's a long list already. Because of nature of this case.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
We're gonna make damn sure, damn sure that we're right
before we do that. But the names that we're going
to name assuming that our investigators confirm and corroborate what
we've been told. Are names that will shock you.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
There you see lawyer Tony Busby, he's got a lot
to say. He's been fielding calls. I guess he has set.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Up an eight hundred number. If he hasn't, he needs to.
Did he molest you?
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Because from what we are hearing, there have been over
three thousand people coming forward. Over one hundred of them
have been vetted in are filing lawsuits against Shawn Combs.
But there you have him talking about celebs. How we're
going to be shocked, you know what, after everything I've
heard regarding Shawn Combs. And again he's innocent until proven
(02:15):
guilty in a court of law. I don't know how
much more shocked I could be. But from those many,
many alleged victims, we are learning more and more, and
for the state federal prosecutors, this is a much more
refined modus operendi method of operation MO that we are
(02:35):
learning from all of these alleged victims. And again, yes,
it's titillating.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
It's interesting to some people.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
I guess about celebs, We've seen all the pictures over
and over. Hillary let's see here Trump, Obama, Ashton Kutcher.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
I mean it just goes on and on and on
about celebs.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Oprah for Pete's sake, at a part party, at some
event with comes.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Does that make them yuilty?
Speaker 2 (03:03):
No? And I think a lot is out there about
celebs because the media believes the general population wants to
hear about celebrities.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
You know what I want to hear about, Lynnshaw. I
want to hear about the truth.
Speaker 5 (03:19):
Waghen Well, the truth is puppy parties, dirty Diddy. We
heard these rumors for years. We had people come forth.
We are in the middle in New York City, and
I would say, you must go to the authorities, you
must tell law enforcement. We are going back to the
nineties Nancy, and nobody would do it. Everybody was afraid.
(03:41):
I want to focus not on the celebrities and influencers.
I want to focus on the miners and all of
these victims, miners that is exploitation.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Sean is as young allegedly Lynshaw. By the way, Lynnshaw,
executive director Lyn's Warriors, committed to ending sexploitation in human trafficking.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Alex West joining me.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
An investigative reporter with the mirror, Alex, I guess you
of everyone on the panel has seen the video ad
nauseam of Ashton Kushner on some type of a swing
going over and over a pool at one of Combs's
white parties where everybody has to dress in white or
(04:28):
you can't get in. Have you seen that video of Kushner? Yes,
I don't care about that. I don't care about him
unless he is a defendant or a victim, or he's in.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
A new movie, all I care about.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
But as of right now, this endless parade of celebrity
montages at Combs's parties, that means nothing. I want to
get through the heart of what's going on with this
federal case. Because the FAS has been very clear they're
still investigating, Alex.
Speaker 6 (04:57):
We can't fully full apart the celebrity right, example of
Justin Bieber Right, he was with Diddy, he was in
Ditty's custody. We can't pretend that that's not true. We
don't know what happened to Justin. We don't know if
he's a victim. He hasn't said anything yet. But we
can't forget that there are some celebrities who were under
Diddy's Kara as minors.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Who he did mentor so.
Speaker 6 (05:16):
I think we can't fully stop talking about the celebrity
aspect of this either.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
I agree Alex West, but seeing Ashton Kushner swing back
and forth on a homemade swing over Ditty's pool means
nothing to me. Actually, what does mean something to me
is this, Listen, the.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Biggest secret in the entertainment industry, it really wasn't a
secret at all, has.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Finally been revealed to the world.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
The wall of silence has now been broken and victims
are coming forward. Our team has had at this point
more than three thousand and two hundred and eighty five
individuals contact us with people claiming people claiming to have
been victimized by Sean Khan.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Did I just hear that number correctly?
Speaker 2 (06:03):
I don't think I need a hearing aid, but I
definitely heard the number. Three thousand, two hundred and eighty
five people have come forward claiming that Sean Combs in
some way molested or attacked them.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Three thousand plus is that real?
Speaker 2 (06:23):
They've got to be vetted how many of those are
real and how many of those are just jumping on
a bandwagon to doctor Leslie Dobson and joining me renowned
clinical forensic psychologists. You can find her a doctor Leslie
Doobson dot com, her author The friend Cleanse. Doctor Leslie,
(06:45):
thank you for being with us. I want to address
something that Attorney Tony Busby just said, and very shortly
we're going to be joined by Ariel Mitchell Kid, who
is representing a new alleged victim of Combs.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
On this same issue.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
We hear Buzzby talking about the wall of silence coming down.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
As you know, doctor.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Leslie, I have prosecuted a lot of rape cases, including
many serial rapists, and he's right, there is a wall
of silence where victims don't want to come forward. Why
especially with a purp and alleged purp like Diddy.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
I think there is.
Speaker 7 (07:27):
So much danger in coming forward. There's shame to these individuals.
There's shame they fear amongst their family, but there are
viable threats of death to them and their families. And
I've been made aware of the threats by the bodyguards
of many of these celebrities involved.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
And they have numbers put on their heads.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
So it is no joke.
Speaker 7 (07:51):
If you come forward in a civil lawsuit and you
settle or you go to court.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
It doesn't matter.
Speaker 7 (07:57):
You're still at risk of losing your life.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Over three thousand plus victims. Yeah, you better set up
that total free number listen.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
After vetting, we now represent one hundred and twenty individuals
who tend to brand civil claims in civil court.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Against Sean Diddy Holmes, as well.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
As claims against many other individuals and entities that we
will name as defendants as we file these individual cases.
There are sixty males and sixty females. Twenty five of
the one hundred and twenty individuals who are plaintiffs in
these cases.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Remind us, at the time of the acts complained of them,
our youngest victim at the time of.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
The occurrence was nine years old. We have an individual
who was fourteen years old. We have one who is fifteen.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
An alleged victim as young as nine years old. A
lot of people would find that very hard to believe,
but wait until you hear the circumstances surrounding the claim
of the nine year old. And now other miners are
coming forward, one claiming he just quit the whole business
(09:07):
and lives in regret that he left the industry after
an alleged.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Incident with Sean comes.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Brian Fitzgibbons joining me, Director Operations, USPA Nationwide Security, Brian Fitzgibbons.
We have to vet these victims. And I'll tell you why.
If you have one person who's lying and trying to
get money and it didn't really happen, that casts a
(09:35):
pall a tint over every other victim that's going to
be named. It can one liar can ruin the whole case,
you know, the whole One bad apple ruin the whole bunch.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
That's what I'm talking about. How do you vet people?
Speaker 2 (09:54):
And remember when you're vetting them, they could very well
be a legitimate victim of Sean Combs. So how do
you vet them? Keeping in mind you could be dealing
with a sex attack victim.
Speaker 8 (10:07):
Absolutely, Nancy, and these law firms, these professional law firms,
will engage with highly specialized private investigators that understand how
to conduct these interviews appropriately. Given that you know, out
of those three and eighty five, Hey, as far as
we know, a majority of them could be actual victims,
(10:29):
and as you said, some of them could be out
just for money and be falsifying this information. Now, in
our experience, that's something that we quickly identify. As these
interviews start.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
The law firm will have a mountain.
Speaker 8 (10:42):
Of information to vet the validity of the statements being made.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Well, one way that you can vet victims is you look.
You can look at what we call in prosecution and outcry.
Did they say anything about it to any one at
the time? Those are called outcry witnesses. Okay, listen to this.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
More than fifty of the victims file reports reported this
conduct to either the authorities, that is, the police or
two hospitals.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
We're in the.
Speaker 9 (11:18):
Process of collecting with our team assistants medical records reports
that were made to the authorities.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
And I've already said that some of the individuals in
this group did in fact talk to the FBI.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
And joining us now special guest Ariel Mitchell Kidd, a
very high profile civil litigation attorney who is representing one
client so far in a case against Sean Combs, and
I'd like to point out that she also is familiar
with the attempted sale of ditty tapes. I can only
(12:11):
assume their pornographic in nature. Ariel Mitchell Kid, thank you
for being with us. Your client filed a police report
at the time of the incident, but was afraid to
put Sean Combs's name on the report what.
Speaker 10 (12:24):
Happened, so at the time when she was able to
make her hearing escape from her assault, she ran down
the street and a neighbor took her in and that's
how she was able to contact the police.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
At that time, she.
Speaker 10 (12:39):
Was very afraid to name mister Colmbs, mainly because this
was at the height of his career. She felt crazy
even telling the neighbor who it was and feeling like
no one.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Would believe her.
Speaker 10 (12:50):
And I too feel the same way because in twenty
twenty one, this is a case that's actually still pending
in Florida courts. Mister Colmbs is named as a defendant
in a lawsuit that I have with Trey Songs. Also
in twenty twenty two, mister Holmes was his home brother
was the location of two separate sexual assaults by young
(13:13):
ladies by Chris Brown and in twenty twenty one. In
twenty twenty two, I personally was sounding the alarm about
mister Holmes.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
That there was something was not right that.
Speaker 10 (13:24):
These acts, these sexual assaults kept occurring at his home
and no one wanted to listen to me. No one
wanted to believe me, And then I had individuals, including
a celebrity chef and other high profile celebrities and politicians
in Miami who were warning me that my life was
in danger if I persisted in these claims against mister Colbs.
(13:48):
So I truly believe that all of these individuals who
are now coming forward are doing so now because now
finally they're feeling safe that they can make these claims
without fear of harm or retribution.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
You know, in another universe, I would have thought Ariel did.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
That's far fetched.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
But now that I know, so many other women are
saying I was threatened. I was threatened that a pornographic
tape of me would be revealed. I was threatened my
career would end all sorts of threats if they came
out against Shawn Comes. It's not far fetched at all
(14:32):
what you're saying. Could you tell me about what your
client says happens the night she says Shawn Comes sex
assaulted her.
Speaker 10 (14:42):
Yes, So what she told me was she was with
a friend and the friend gets a phone call from
mister Colmes asking him what he was doing and if
he could come over and he said, sure, I'm just
having at home, having some friends over. Mister Colbs came
with Christino Quorn, who we know mister Colmbs to say
(15:03):
that that sits right hand woman. He shouted her out
and at BT speech where he named Cassie at the
end of the video for staying with him through the
dark times. My client has identified miss Korm as an
additional person who will be named as a defendant in
our lawsuit.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Who was present at the time.
Speaker 10 (15:23):
She said Miss Korm and mister Colmbs were making jokes
about sex trafficking her, about how she would be a
good person to take to the parties and that a
lot of men would like her, and eventually she was giving.
Everybody started drinking. She was giving a drink, and she
(15:43):
said she took one sip and knew something was off
and stopped drinking and still and started to feel woozy,
and then mister Combs assaulted her with an adamant object
which y'all name and our complaint which is coming soon.
Then instructed another gentleman who was there to penetrate her
(16:04):
with his penis while mister Colmbs was in the corner
watching and pleasuring himself. Okay, Ariel.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Guys, you're hearing Ariel Mitchell Kidd, who is representing yet
another claimant against Combs. For those of you that want
to buy in to the photos of him drinking champagne
and pouring it on people, and his four coats and
his diamond necklaces in his gold chains, bla blah.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
You know, the devil can dress up in a tuxedo too.
Does that mean anything to me? No, it does not.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
What your client is saying predates by years the federal indictment.
What is she clairvoyant? She is saying she was invited
to a party. She is saying that there was talk
of trafficking her, in other words, farming her out to
other men that would enjoy meeting her. At that point,
(17:01):
Combs sits back and watches other people molest her as
he masturbates. That's exactly what the victims say in the
federal indetment.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
This is highly significant. Absolutely.
Speaker 10 (17:17):
I've also been vetting several individuals since I have entered
into this for Ray, so I knew this to be occurring.
I had no doubt in my mind who mister Combs
is and was and continues to be. And it is
only not that person anymore because he's behind bars.
Speaker 8 (17:37):
Holmes allegedly planned and controlled the sex performances, which he called.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Freak off freakoffs, freak offs, freak offs, freakoffs. Sean Puffy
Combes aka Diddy aka p Diddy, I'll see you in court.
In addition to a lawyer claiming this is buzzby claiming
(18:03):
that over one thousand weight excuse me, over three thousand.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Sorry didty Ooh? I know how you hate an imperfection?
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Over three thousand alleged victims have come forward. He has
vetted that down to over one hundred lawsuits against Diddy.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Hey, you better hurry.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
He's going to run out of money at some point.
That said, when you see Busby speaking, I've been saying, hey,
we need a total free number.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Nine nine nine. Did he molest you? Okay?
Speaker 2 (18:36):
He has a toll free number right behind him. You
normally only see total free numbers of that nature when
you've got a class action, which means typically hundreds, maybe
thousands of people joining together in one claim against a
major entity like a cell phone carrier or a company.
(19:02):
There is an eight hundred number for victims to call
if they have been molested by Shaan Combs or at
one of his parties.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Did you just hear Ariel Mitchell kid.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Her client this? Her client says, this happened years ago?
Where did he sits back and watches and masturbates while
he instructs somebody else to rape her? And can I
show you one more thing? Can I see that picture?
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Liz? Does nobody else notice this? There is a party? Okay?
Hold that picture? There's a party going on.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Does nobody notice a woman is up there without pants on?
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Am I the only one?
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Like? Just imagine you go to a Christmas party and
you look over and there's a naked lady And what
is that wrapped around her waist? Is that some sort
of is she about to take flight over the audience?
Speaker 1 (20:04):
But naked? That's what I want to know.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
And everybody's acting like this is normal for there to
be a naked lady at the party.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Okay, it's not normal.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Aside from Seawan Combs's parties, I want to talk about
the specter that has just been raised in the last
seventy two hours, the specter of child victims.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
This individual, who was nine years old at the time,
was taken to a audition in New York City with
Bad Boy Records. Other boys were there to audition as well.
All of them were trying to land a record deal.
All of them were miners. This individual was sexually abused
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allegedly by Seawan Comes and.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
Several other people at the studio.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
In the promise to both his parents and to him himself.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Of getting a record deal and more.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
Another minder told allegedly by Sean Holmes that.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
He would make him a sharp, but he needed a
visit with him in private valley away from his parents.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
Once they were in a private area, allegedly, mister Combs
made the victim perform oral sex upon him.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Alex West and joining me investigative reporter with the Mirror.
Alex again, thank you for being with us. What do
we know about claims? Now, multiple claims, not just one
then child, but multiple claims that the mo again the
(21:52):
same when it comes to children. They are interviewed by
Combs for a record deal and they and giving him
oral six.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
What do you know about these claims?
Speaker 6 (22:05):
Yeah, so the alleged grooming is a tactic that you
know Diddy is allegedly used on adult adults as well.
The promises of fame have come up over and over again,
and that's the same tactics that he allegedly used with children.
I mean, twenty five miners are coming forward, and you know,
all of them.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Had very similar stories.
Speaker 6 (22:26):
They're taken allegedly to studios, They're offered contracts, they are
asked to perform oral sex, They're asked to be a
part of these things. And you know, I look forward
to reading some of those complaints when they come out
and seeing what those you know, repetitive things are and
what we're seeing. But you know, the stories line up
with the adult victims as well. Same thing using his
(22:47):
power to get these individuals to allegedly perform different acts
on him.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
We're with him.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
And there's more you've heard about than nine year old
than an other minor listened to this.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
An individual fifteen years old at the time, flown to
New York City to attend the party, was drugged and
then taken into a private room allegedly in the presence
of mister Cohns, where this female individual minor was raped,
(23:23):
and then other individuals took turns. Right or a very
young man who told us at the hands of Sean
did he Combs and his friends in an effort to
try to sign a record deal. This was kind of
what he was told he would have to do had
he not been in Hower. I feel like I could
(23:43):
have been something great. I quit the industry because of
what Seawan Combs did to.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Me to Lynshaw, founder and director of Lynn's Warriors, committed
to ending sexual exploitation, especially children. If there had been
one isolated claim, I would have been skeptical because it
wouldn't fit into Combs's of targeting adults. But now that
(24:18):
I know that there are twenty five similar claims regarding
abuse on children that cannot be ignored, be damned, Nancy.
Speaker 5 (24:30):
We have always heard the rumors or people have reported
to me that these things were going on right here
in New York City, at his studio, in his offices.
But I have to ask you, if we were hearing
about this, these stories we're hearing right now are lining
up with everything, the adults and the miners.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
I want to ask.
Speaker 5 (24:49):
Everybody where, has everybody been there?
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Will report me?
Speaker 5 (24:53):
Some spoke to the FBI hospital emergency rooms, which we
always say to victims, get reports down, call nine one
one right away. Go to a hospital emergency room. They're
open twenty four seven three sixty five.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
I want to ask.
Speaker 5 (25:05):
Everybody, where has everybody been? And when it comes to children,
you have to ask where did these children come from?
What about their parents or caretaker? Who are these children?
Other adults in the room, why would they watch this
allow this?
Speaker 1 (25:20):
This is so complicit.
Speaker 5 (25:21):
There are so many people involved, and we have to
keep our thoughts on that as well. I don't want
this to turn into another Jeffrey Epstein case where it
just kind of poof and goes away. We have to
stay on this because so many people are complicit in this,
and I'm tired of hearing about if anything good comes
of this, this whole dirty diddy thing is if the
American public, the public can wake up and see what
(25:45):
is going on, and you don't allow your child alone
at any point anything to do with show business going
anywhere when it seems too good to be true, it
is too good to be true. But I have to ask,
where is everybody protecting these kids? Obviously everybody failed at
their jobs. I want answers. Don't you doesn't everybody here
on the panel? Why could this go on since the nineties.
(26:07):
I'm not understanding that when people have been reporting.
Speaker 11 (26:09):
This music mogul and rap star Sean Diddy. Combs hit
with lawsuit after lawsuit after lawsuit, but attorneys claim no
matter how many suits are filed, Combs is innocent.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Well, if the attorney really wants to win the case,
you better not have any more sit downs with Harvey Levin,
the founder of TMZ, who's also a lawyer. In addition
to another hearing, another bond hearing, This says bond hearing
number three that's coming up. We think they'll probably argue
it on October the ninth. Don't know that that could
(26:49):
just be a status update, but I guarantee you the
lawyers we'll try to get him out of jail again.
Two new lawyers have been named to the case. One
is a trial lawyer, a very well known trial lawyer,
and the other is an appellate lawyer.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
What does that mean appeals? That means you argue the law.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Why would Sean Combs need an appellate lawyer now there's
not even a conviction to appeal. That is because this
new lawyer, the appeals lawyer, is an expert in the
technicalities of the black and white letter of the law.
To try and beat this case at on a legal front,
(27:33):
not a factual front. So that's what's happening.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Now.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Another important thing that's happening that we heard from Tony Busby,
who has the big eight.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Hundred number behind him.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
As opposed to our nine nine did did he molest you?
All of these women and men coming forward, including twenty
five miners, have a similar story. That's critical in the
practice of law because these witnesses don't know each other,
(28:08):
yet their stories are startlingly similar. What are we learning
about the alleged modus operandi method of operation of Sean
Diddy comes listen?
Speaker 3 (28:21):
Typically, the victim is lured into a situation where she
or she is given or dreaming.
Speaker 9 (28:27):
Typically that drink reported by these victims is apparently laced
with something. Once that drink takes effect, the perpetrators perform
all kinds of sexual acts on the victims, many times
passing him or her around.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
As other people watch and enjoy the show, and then
leave the.
Speaker 9 (28:47):
Victim of shamed, confused, injured, and wondering what happened.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
When the victim reaches out, he or she is told
not to say anything.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
Sometimes there are threats of all physical violence or find repercussions.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Body long too doctor Leslie Dobson, joining US clinical forensics
psychologists at dodtor Lesliedobson dot com. Also author doctor Leslie
one Well. Many characteristics, but one repeating theme. A recurring
theme is how Combs aka Ditty aka Puff Puff Daddy, Puffy.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Love Sean Love Come. It is whatever puts on a show.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
He's like the puppeteer and the victim is the puppet
with a parade of typically men abusing the victim putting
on a show.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
For Combs, what is that.
Speaker 7 (29:51):
He's got a style right, that's his grooming and he
enjoys these high levels of stimulation and risk. For somebody
who specializes in high risk sexual violence, he is one
of the most dangerous people I have ever seen in
my career.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Yeah, I'm very curious what you make of claims that
he is motivated by.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Some sort of voyeurism.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
It's not him always performing the rape on the victim.
He is very often, if not mostly, sitting back and
watching somebody else attack the victim.
Speaker 7 (30:30):
There's an element of sadism.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
He is enjoying the pain.
Speaker 7 (30:35):
And voyeurism is when an individual is sexually stimulated by
watching another person engage in sex and then when you
bring in that element. They are stimulated because of the
sadistic nature involved in watching the sex.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Out crime stories with Nancy Grace.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
So to Ariel Mitchell Kid now representing another alleged victim
of Sean Comes, what I'm getting at with doctor Leslie Dobson.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
You heard her definition of voyeurism.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
If this is Comes's addiction, that would explain the alleged
sale of ditty tapes pornographic tapes, how.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Does that fit in with your client?
Speaker 10 (31:28):
Well, my client doesn't know, at least as of now,
if anything was recorded, at least in this scenario, it
wasn't at one of his homes, like the stills of
the videotape that I saw, which is purported to be
at mister Colmbs, one of mister Colmbs's estates in Atlanta, Georgia.
So I've actually been told by the individual who wanted
(31:50):
me to sell the one tape that they had three tapes.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
And though everything, I got to hear that more slowly,
Ariel Mitch Kid joining us, So you have seen steals
of a porn tape with Combs in it.
Speaker 10 (32:08):
Yes, And part of the reason I did not want
to engage in any seale or have anything to do
with it is because they could possibly be a minor
in that videotape. It could be chow pornography, and I
have a lot of extensive experience with dealing with cases
with child pornography, and I know where my duties are.
(32:29):
I cannot determine if this person is seventeen, eighteen, nineteen twenty,
or twenty one, but I did see the steals in
an effort to authenticate that there actually was a tape.
Speaker 12 (32:39):
The FEDS are still gathering evidence against Sean Dinny Holmes,
according to TMZ, and anonymous male sex worker has met
with agents to hand over a Freakoff tape. The escort
was reportedly flown from Atlanta to Miami to participate in
the freak off and even detailed the drugs Combs used
to apply the woman he had sex with in the video.
(33:02):
This as FEDS are still on the hunt for private
medics who hooked up victims to ivs after the hours
or days long sex assaults.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
And that is where the entire criminal enterprise alleged in
the federal indictment. That's what they're talking about now. We
understand that the FEDS are on the hunt for medics
that applied or helped facilitate IV drug drips to victims
to recuperate after freak coughs.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
I want to.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
Circle back to Aerol Mitchell Kid regarding the porn tape
she says she saw, then also go back to Fitzgibbons
regarding the potential of an ai A false tape. But Ariel,
this is not the first we've heard of porn tapes
being circulated. Porn tapes as they relate to Combs, There's
(33:56):
got to be a treasure trove of porn tapes.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
If he videoed all of these freak offs, I.
Speaker 10 (34:02):
Would believe that there is a considering. I know of
one source who purports to have three tapes, one of
which I have seen a steal of. They did invite
me to come to Beverly Hills and view all three
of the tapes if I was so inclined to take
this responsibility on with which I declined, which is how
(34:22):
we got to the point of me seeing the stills
of the tape. As I'm an attorney, once I see
these certain things, I would have a duty not only
to report these things, but be called upon as a witness,
as an officer of the court.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Well, you're absolutely right, Ariel Mitchell.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
Kid in the stills that you saw of one of
the tapes, what did you observe?
Speaker 10 (34:45):
I observed mister Colmbs and another extremely high profile individual
engaged in homosexual activities.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Alex West, joining us from the mirror. That is a
whole another line of potential indictment, a whole another avenue
the sale or the manufacture or distribution dissemination of porn.
And that's a very loose term. I mean, all the
(35:17):
US Supreme Court will say about porn is we know
it when we see it. Okay, just because people are
naked having sex does not necessarily mean a crime. However,
if you're videoing someone without their knowledge and then disseminating that,
that's a whole other animal. What can you tell us
about people peddling ditty porn tapes?
Speaker 6 (35:41):
Yeah, what I do know is while that could be
another indictment, could be another charge or revenge porn. This
has come up over and over again in the civil
lawsuits and these victims. One of the big things you're
asking for is not just financial compensation, but for those
tapes to be destroyed. They found it affects their life,
their livelihood. They've said that in center to plenty of people.
(36:01):
They've heard from other people that their videos have been
sent to them without their knowledge, and they find out
years later. Some of these people are a legend that
their assault took place years ago, and they've worked on it,
they've tried to heal from that, and then it comes
back up years later when they find out that did
he allegedly sent us to other people, and now they
(36:22):
have to start that trauma process all over again. And
that's what they're saying in these civil lawsuits. So could
it be an avenue for investigators to look into, Absolutely,
and they have some place to start with the civil lawsuits.
Speaker 4 (36:32):
Another individual, twenty six at the time of the occurrence,
was picked up by allegedly by mister Comes and several
other people in a black suv from the airport, was
given one drink in the suv and then literally woke
up the next day not knowing what had happened, but
(36:53):
with pain and damage to both her agina and her age.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
I'm telling you, when a jury hears that they're going
to do a backflip. That's Tony Busby, attorney speaking about
over three thousand people coming forward He's called it down
to over one hundred that he believes are legitimate sex
claim sex assault claims against Combs straight out to Brian
Fitzgibbons joining US Direct Operations, USPA Nationwide Security. How can
(37:23):
I make sure that these videos we're talking about, pornographic
in nature are legit? How can I tell if they've
been doctored, if they've been edited, if they've been spliced together,
if they're not AI?
Speaker 1 (37:37):
How do you do that?
Speaker 8 (37:38):
This is going to be very difficult for the untrained
eye to detect an AI video At this point. The
deep faith technologies have advanced in leaps and bounds over
the last few years. But the good news is for
attorneys and prosecutors the technology is even more advanced on
the other side to identify this. As long as attorneys
(38:01):
and prosecutors are using the right technologies, they can run
these videos through a systems of scans that will tell
you that it's been faked.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
While there are allegations and this is by Tony Busby.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
That there will be celebrities named in these lawsuits.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
You heard Ariel Mitchell Kidd state that she observed a
celebrity in one of these tapes. Lynn Shaw, celeb or
no celeb. There are a lot more victims out.
Speaker 5 (38:32):
There, So what we have to say about this again,
I always want to put the focus on the victim,
this survivor. I have to talk to women and girls.
It's called violence in America, rape against women, and they
will be asking me I know about this case. They
want to know why he was allowed and all the
people around him to do this and get away with
(38:53):
it for decades. So we want to put the focus
on that survivor, on that trauma, and how we can
intervene and help them. Because they tell me they walk
in a supermarket, a drug store, they think people are
staring at them. It goes on all their lives. And
now we're talking about kids miners, which we always heard
about SEESAM child sexual abuse material. This is horrendous. Again,
(39:15):
I want to remind everybody, let this be a lesson
that this goes on. No celebrity culture, society is worth this.
And where again, we're all the other participants people, He
did not do this alone. Where was everybody when all
of these people and especially children were involved. It's disgusting,
it's bizarre. Call out the National Guard. We need vetting,
(39:36):
We need to prove that he did all of this
with all his gang and put him away forever.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
Imagine living through a brutal sex assault where your videoed
and you have no recollection of it, and then you're
presented with the video and that hangs over your head.
Is my husband going to find out, my boyfriend, my
children is going to go online?
Speaker 1 (40:00):
Living with that the rest of your life?
Speaker 2 (40:02):
When you were too afraid to come forward to start with,
you heard Ariel Mitchell kid Her client ran from Diddy's home,
according to her, and banged on a neighbor's door to
get help and filed a police report, but was too
afraid to say two words. Sean comes, Well, we're not
(40:24):
afraid anymore. You know what we've got on our banner
Tonight N nine Diddy molest you. There is an actual
toll free hotline number at this point eight hundred two
zero zero seven four seven four.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
Can you imagine.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
One person has a toll free number for all the
alleged victims to call.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
That's where we're at.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
And believe you mean the Feds ain't sitting back not
paying attention. And remember an American hero, Sergeant Robert Blaine
Swartz Oklahoma County Sheriffs Sorts shot and killed in the
line of duty. A US Army Vet Sergeant, Schwartz served
(41:15):
over twenty five years with Oklahoma Sheriffs. Survived by his
mom Phyllis. Don't you know she's so proud of him,
son Austin, and grandchildren Reagan and Rowan American hero Sergeant
Robert Blaine Swartz.
Speaker 1 (41:37):
End of Watch.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
Thank you to all of our guests being with us,
but especially to you for joining us.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
Nancy Grace signing off, goodbye friend.
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Do I need a toll free number one nine nine, Diddy,
meliss you. Now, over one hundred sex assault victims have
been vetted, according to a lawyer, after over three thousand
people have contacted lawyers regarding alleged abuse at the hands
(00:32):
of Sean Comb's. This as disturbing claims emerging tonight regarding
sex assault on miners, miners trying to break into showbiz.
Good evening, I'm Nancy Grace, this is Crime Stories. Thank
you for being with us. Did he boohoo? Sean Puffy
(00:55):
Combs whining incessantly refusing jails. Dude, Oh no, it's not
a plant parm Nancy, it's chicken parm.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
No, don't care.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
I am I supposed to care that Diddy's got a
t t into a metal urinal. I don't care, don't care,
don't care, bs, Bs, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Bs.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
The day will come.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
When we will name names other than Seaw Colmes, and
there's a lot of names.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
It's a long list already. Because of nature of this case.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
We're gonna make damn sure, damn sure that we're right
before we do that. But the names that we're going
to name assuming that our investigators confirm and corroborate what
we've been told. Are names that will shock you.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
There you see lawyer Tony Busby, he's got a lot
to say. He's been fielding calls. I guess he has set.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Up an eight hundred number. If he hasn't, he needs to.
Did he molest you?
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Because from what we are hearing, there have been over
three thousand people coming forward. Over one hundred of them
have been vetted in are filing lawsuits against Shawn Combs.
But there you have him talking about celebs. How we're
going to be shocked, you know what, after everything I've
heard regarding Shawn Combs. And again he's innocent until proven
(02:15):
guilty in a court of law. I don't know how
much more shocked I could be. But from those many,
many alleged victims, we are learning more and more, and
for the state federal prosecutors, this is a much more
refined modus operendi method of operation MO that we are
(02:35):
learning from all of these alleged victims. And again, yes,
it's titillating.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
It's interesting to some people.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
I guess about celebs, We've seen all the pictures over
and over. Hillary let's see here Trump, Obama, Ashton Kutcher.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
I mean it just goes on and on and on
about celebs.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Oprah for Pete's sake, at a part party, at some
event with comes.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Does that make them yuilty?
Speaker 2 (03:03):
No? And I think a lot is out there about
celebs because the media believes the general population wants to
hear about celebrities.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
You know what I want to hear about, Lynnshaw. I
want to hear about the truth.
Speaker 5 (03:19):
Waghen Well, the truth is puppy parties, dirty Diddy. We
heard these rumors for years. We had people come forth.
We are in the middle in New York City, and
I would say, you must go to the authorities, you
must tell law enforcement. We are going back to the
nineties Nancy, and nobody would do it. Everybody was afraid.
(03:41):
I want to focus not on the celebrities and influencers.
I want to focus on the miners and all of
these victims, miners that is exploitation.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Sean is as young allegedly Lynshaw. By the way, Lynnshaw,
executive director Lyn's Warriors, committed to ending sexploitation in human trafficking.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Alex West joining me.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
An investigative reporter with the mirror, Alex, I guess you
of everyone on the panel has seen the video ad
nauseam of Ashton Kushner on some type of a swing
going over and over a pool at one of Combs's
white parties where everybody has to dress in white or
(04:28):
you can't get in. Have you seen that video of Kushner? Yes,
I don't care about that. I don't care about him
unless he is a defendant or a victim, or he's in.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
A new movie, all I care about.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
But as of right now, this endless parade of celebrity
montages at Combs's parties, that means nothing. I want to
get through the heart of what's going on with this
federal case. Because the FAS has been very clear they're
still investigating, Alex.
Speaker 6 (04:57):
We can't fully full apart the celebrity right, example of
Justin Bieber Right, he was with Diddy, he was in
Ditty's custody. We can't pretend that that's not true. We
don't know what happened to Justin. We don't know if
he's a victim. He hasn't said anything yet. But we
can't forget that there are some celebrities who were under
Diddy's Kara as minors.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Who he did mentor so.
Speaker 6 (05:16):
I think we can't fully stop talking about the celebrity
aspect of this either.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
I agree Alex West, but seeing Ashton Kushner swing back
and forth on a homemade swing over Ditty's pool means
nothing to me. Actually, what does mean something to me
is this, Listen, the.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Biggest secret in the entertainment industry, it really wasn't a
secret at all, has.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Finally been revealed to the world.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
The wall of silence has now been broken and victims
are coming forward. Our team has had at this point
more than three thousand and two hundred and eighty five
individuals contact us with people claiming people claiming to have
been victimized by Sean Khan.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Did I just hear that number correctly?
Speaker 2 (06:03):
I don't think I need a hearing aid, but I
definitely heard the number. Three thousand, two hundred and eighty
five people have come forward claiming that Sean Combs in
some way molested or attacked them.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Three thousand plus is that real?
Speaker 2 (06:23):
They've got to be vetted how many of those are
real and how many of those are just jumping on
a bandwagon to doctor Leslie Dobson and joining me renowned
clinical forensic psychologists. You can find her a doctor Leslie
Doobson dot com, her author The friend Cleanse. Doctor Leslie,
(06:45):
thank you for being with us. I want to address
something that Attorney Tony Busby just said, and very shortly
we're going to be joined by Ariel Mitchell Kid, who
is representing a new alleged victim of Combs.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
On this same issue.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
We hear Buzzby talking about the wall of silence coming down.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
As you know, doctor.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Leslie, I have prosecuted a lot of rape cases, including
many serial rapists, and he's right, there is a wall
of silence where victims don't want to come forward. Why
especially with a purp and alleged purp like Diddy.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
I think there is.
Speaker 7 (07:27):
So much danger in coming forward. There's shame to these individuals.
There's shame they fear amongst their family, but there are
viable threats of death to them and their families. And
I've been made aware of the threats by the bodyguards
of many of these celebrities involved.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
And they have numbers put on their heads.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
So it is no joke.
Speaker 7 (07:51):
If you come forward in a civil lawsuit and you
settle or you go to court.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
It doesn't matter.
Speaker 7 (07:57):
You're still at risk of losing your life.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Over three thousand plus victims. Yeah, you better set up
that total free number listen.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
After vetting, we now represent one hundred and twenty individuals
who tend to brand civil claims in civil court.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Against Sean Diddy Holmes, as well.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
As claims against many other individuals and entities that we
will name as defendants as we file these individual cases.
There are sixty males and sixty females. Twenty five of
the one hundred and twenty individuals who are plaintiffs in
these cases.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Remind us, at the time of the acts complained of them,
our youngest victim at the time of.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
The occurrence was nine years old. We have an individual
who was fourteen years old. We have one who is fifteen.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
An alleged victim as young as nine years old. A
lot of people would find that very hard to believe,
but wait until you hear the circumstances surrounding the claim
of the nine year old. And now other miners are
coming forward, one claiming he just quit the whole business
(09:07):
and lives in regret that he left the industry after
an alleged.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Incident with Sean comes.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Brian Fitzgibbons joining me, Director Operations, USPA Nationwide Security, Brian Fitzgibbons.
We have to vet these victims. And I'll tell you why.
If you have one person who's lying and trying to
get money and it didn't really happen, that casts a
(09:35):
pall a tint over every other victim that's going to
be named. It can one liar can ruin the whole case,
you know, the whole One bad apple ruin the whole bunch.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
That's what I'm talking about. How do you vet people?
Speaker 2 (09:54):
And remember when you're vetting them, they could very well
be a legitimate victim of Sean Combs. So how do
you vet them? Keeping in mind you could be dealing
with a sex attack victim.
Speaker 8 (10:07):
Absolutely, Nancy, and these law firms, these professional law firms,
will engage with highly specialized private investigators that understand how
to conduct these interviews appropriately. Given that you know, out
of those three and eighty five, Hey, as far as
we know, a majority of them could be actual victims,
(10:29):
and as you said, some of them could be out
just for money and be falsifying this information. Now, in
our experience, that's something that we quickly identify. As these
interviews start.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
The law firm will have a mountain.
Speaker 8 (10:42):
Of information to vet the validity of the statements being made.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Well, one way that you can vet victims is you look.
You can look at what we call in prosecution and outcry.
Did they say anything about it to any one at
the time? Those are called outcry witnesses. Okay, listen to this.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
More than fifty of the victims file reports reported this
conduct to either the authorities, that is, the police or
two hospitals.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
We're in the.
Speaker 9 (11:18):
Process of collecting with our team assistants medical records reports
that were made to the authorities.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
And I've already said that some of the individuals in
this group did in fact talk to the FBI.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
And joining us now special guest Ariel Mitchell Kidd, a
very high profile civil litigation attorney who is representing one
client so far in a case against Sean Combs, and
I'd like to point out that she also is familiar
with the attempted sale of ditty tapes. I can only
(12:11):
assume their pornographic in nature. Ariel Mitchell Kid, thank you
for being with us. Your client filed a police report
at the time of the incident, but was afraid to
put Sean Combs's name on the report what.
Speaker 10 (12:24):
Happened, so at the time when she was able to
make her hearing escape from her assault, she ran down
the street and a neighbor took her in and that's
how she was able to contact the police.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
At that time, she.
Speaker 10 (12:39):
Was very afraid to name mister Colmbs, mainly because this
was at the height of his career. She felt crazy
even telling the neighbor who it was and feeling like
no one.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Would believe her.
Speaker 10 (12:50):
And I too feel the same way because in twenty
twenty one, this is a case that's actually still pending
in Florida courts. Mister Colmbs is named as a defendant
in a lawsuit that I have with Trey Songs. Also
in twenty twenty two, mister Holmes was his home brother
was the location of two separate sexual assaults by young
(13:13):
ladies by Chris Brown and in twenty twenty one. In
twenty twenty two, I personally was sounding the alarm about
mister Holmes.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
That there was something was not right that.
Speaker 10 (13:24):
These acts, these sexual assaults kept occurring at his home
and no one wanted to listen to me. No one
wanted to believe me, And then I had individuals, including
a celebrity chef and other high profile celebrities and politicians
in Miami who were warning me that my life was
in danger if I persisted in these claims against mister Colbs.
(13:48):
So I truly believe that all of these individuals who
are now coming forward are doing so now because now
finally they're feeling safe that they can make these claims
without fear of harm or retribution.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
You know, in another universe, I would have thought Ariel did.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
That's far fetched.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
But now that I know, so many other women are
saying I was threatened. I was threatened that a pornographic
tape of me would be revealed. I was threatened my
career would end all sorts of threats if they came
out against Shawn Comes. It's not far fetched at all
(14:32):
what you're saying. Could you tell me about what your
client says happens the night she says Shawn Comes sex
assaulted her.
Speaker 10 (14:42):
Yes, So what she told me was she was with
a friend and the friend gets a phone call from
mister Colmes asking him what he was doing and if
he could come over and he said, sure, I'm just
having at home, having some friends over. Mister Colbs came
with Christino Quorn, who we know mister Colmbs to say
(15:03):
that that sits right hand woman. He shouted her out
and at BT speech where he named Cassie at the
end of the video for staying with him through the
dark times. My client has identified miss Korm as an
additional person who will be named as a defendant in
our lawsuit.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Who was present at the time.
Speaker 10 (15:23):
She said Miss Korm and mister Colmbs were making jokes
about sex trafficking her, about how she would be a
good person to take to the parties and that a
lot of men would like her, and eventually she was giving.
Everybody started drinking. She was giving a drink, and she
(15:43):
said she took one sip and knew something was off
and stopped drinking and still and started to feel woozy,
and then mister Combs assaulted her with an adamant object
which y'all name and our complaint which is coming soon.
Then instructed another gentleman who was there to penetrate her
(16:04):
with his penis while mister Colmbs was in the corner
watching and pleasuring himself. Okay, Ariel.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Guys, you're hearing Ariel Mitchell Kidd, who is representing yet
another claimant against Combs. For those of you that want
to buy in to the photos of him drinking champagne
and pouring it on people, and his four coats and
his diamond necklaces in his gold chains, bla blah.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
You know, the devil can dress up in a tuxedo too.
Does that mean anything to me? No, it does not.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
What your client is saying predates by years the federal indictment.
What is she clairvoyant? She is saying she was invited
to a party. She is saying that there was talk
of trafficking her, in other words, farming her out to
other men that would enjoy meeting her. At that point,
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Combs sits back and watches other people molest her as
he masturbates. That's exactly what the victims say in the
federal indetment.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
This is highly significant. Absolutely.
Speaker 10 (17:17):
I've also been vetting several individuals since I have entered
into this for Ray, so I knew this to be occurring.
I had no doubt in my mind who mister Combs
is and was and continues to be. And it is
only not that person anymore because he's behind bars.
Speaker 8 (17:37):
Holmes allegedly planned and controlled the sex performances, which he called.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Freak off freakoffs, freak offs, freak offs, freakoffs. Sean Puffy
Combes aka Diddy aka p Diddy, I'll see you in court.
In addition to a lawyer claiming this is buzzby claiming
(18:03):
that over one thousand weight excuse me, over three thousand.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Sorry didty Ooh? I know how you hate an imperfection?
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Over three thousand alleged victims have come forward. He has
vetted that down to over one hundred lawsuits against Diddy.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Hey, you better hurry.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
He's going to run out of money at some point.
That said, when you see Busby speaking, I've been saying, hey,
we need a total free number.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Nine nine nine. Did he molest you? Okay?
Speaker 2 (18:36):
He has a toll free number right behind him. You
normally only see total free numbers of that nature when
you've got a class action, which means typically hundreds, maybe
thousands of people joining together in one claim against a
major entity like a cell phone carrier or a company.
(19:02):
There is an eight hundred number for victims to call
if they have been molested by Shaan Combs or at
one of his parties.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Did you just hear Ariel Mitchell kid.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Her client this? Her client says, this happened years ago?
Where did he sits back and watches and masturbates while
he instructs somebody else to rape her? And can I
show you one more thing? Can I see that picture?
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Liz? Does nobody else notice this? There is a party? Okay?
Hold that picture? There's a party going on.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Does nobody notice a woman is up there without pants on?
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Am I the only one?
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Like? Just imagine you go to a Christmas party and
you look over and there's a naked lady And what
is that wrapped around her waist? Is that some sort
of is she about to take flight over the audience?
Speaker 1 (20:04):
But naked? That's what I want to know.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
And everybody's acting like this is normal for there to
be a naked lady at the party.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Okay, it's not normal.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Aside from Seawan Combs's parties, I want to talk about
the specter that has just been raised in the last
seventy two hours, the specter of child victims.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
This individual, who was nine years old at the time,
was taken to a audition in New York City with
Bad Boy Records. Other boys were there to audition as well.
All of them were trying to land a record deal.
All of them were miners. This individual was sexually abused
(20:54):
allegedly by Seawan Comes and.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
Several other people at the studio.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
In the promise to both his parents and to him himself.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Of getting a record deal and more.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
Another minder told allegedly by Sean Holmes that.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
He would make him a sharp, but he needed a
visit with him in private valley away from his parents.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
Once they were in a private area, allegedly, mister Combs
made the victim perform oral sex upon him.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Alex West and joining me investigative reporter with the Mirror.
Alex again, thank you for being with us. What do
we know about claims? Now, multiple claims, not just one
then child, but multiple claims that the mo again the
(21:52):
same when it comes to children. They are interviewed by
Combs for a record deal and they and giving him
oral six.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
What do you know about these claims?
Speaker 6 (22:05):
Yeah, so the alleged grooming is a tactic that you
know Diddy is allegedly used on adult adults as well.
The promises of fame have come up over and over again,
and that's the same tactics that he allegedly used with children.
I mean, twenty five miners are coming forward, and you know,
all of them.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Had very similar stories.
Speaker 6 (22:26):
They're taken allegedly to studios, They're offered contracts, they are
asked to perform oral sex, They're asked to be a
part of these things. And you know, I look forward
to reading some of those complaints when they come out
and seeing what those you know, repetitive things are and
what we're seeing. But you know, the stories line up
with the adult victims as well. Same thing using his
(22:47):
power to get these individuals to allegedly perform different acts
on him.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
We're with him.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
And there's more you've heard about than nine year old
than an other minor listened to this.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
An individual fifteen years old at the time, flown to
New York City to attend the party, was drugged and
then taken into a private room allegedly in the presence
of mister Cohns, where this female individual minor was raped,
(23:23):
and then other individuals took turns. Right or a very
young man who told us at the hands of Sean
did he Combs and his friends in an effort to
try to sign a record deal. This was kind of
what he was told he would have to do had
he not been in Hower. I feel like I could
(23:43):
have been something great. I quit the industry because of
what Seawan Combs did to.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Me to Lynshaw, founder and director of Lynn's Warriors, committed
to ending sexual exploitation, especially children. If there had been
one isolated claim, I would have been skeptical because it
wouldn't fit into Combs's of targeting adults. But now that
(24:18):
I know that there are twenty five similar claims regarding
abuse on children that cannot be ignored, be damned, Nancy.
Speaker 5 (24:30):
We have always heard the rumors or people have reported
to me that these things were going on right here
in New York City, at his studio, in his offices.
But I have to ask you, if we were hearing
about this, these stories we're hearing right now are lining
up with everything, the adults and the miners.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
I want to ask.
Speaker 5 (24:49):
Everybody where, has everybody been there?
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Will report me?
Speaker 5 (24:53):
Some spoke to the FBI hospital emergency rooms, which we
always say to victims, get reports down, call nine one
one right away. Go to a hospital emergency room. They're
open twenty four seven three sixty five.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
I want to ask.
Speaker 5 (25:05):
Everybody, where has everybody been? And when it comes to children,
you have to ask where did these children come from?
What about their parents or caretaker? Who are these children?
Other adults in the room, why would they watch this
allow this?
Speaker 1 (25:20):
This is so complicit.
Speaker 5 (25:21):
There are so many people involved, and we have to
keep our thoughts on that as well. I don't want
this to turn into another Jeffrey Epstein case where it
just kind of poof and goes away. We have to
stay on this because so many people are complicit in this,
and I'm tired of hearing about if anything good comes
of this, this whole dirty diddy thing is if the
American public, the public can wake up and see what
(25:45):
is going on, and you don't allow your child alone
at any point anything to do with show business going
anywhere when it seems too good to be true, it
is too good to be true. But I have to ask,
where is everybody protecting these kids? Obviously everybody failed at
their jobs. I want answers. Don't you doesn't everybody here
on the panel? Why could this go on since the nineties.
(26:07):
I'm not understanding that when people have been reporting.
Speaker 11 (26:09):
This music mogul and rap star Sean Diddy. Combs hit
with lawsuit after lawsuit after lawsuit, but attorneys claim no
matter how many suits are filed, Combs is innocent.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Well, if the attorney really wants to win the case,
you better not have any more sit downs with Harvey Levin,
the founder of TMZ, who's also a lawyer. In addition
to another hearing, another bond hearing, This says bond hearing
number three that's coming up. We think they'll probably argue
it on October the ninth. Don't know that that could
(26:49):
just be a status update, but I guarantee you the
lawyers we'll try to get him out of jail again.
Two new lawyers have been named to the case. One
is a trial lawyer, a very well known trial lawyer,
and the other is an appellate lawyer.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
What does that mean appeals? That means you argue the law.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Why would Sean Combs need an appellate lawyer now there's
not even a conviction to appeal. That is because this
new lawyer, the appeals lawyer, is an expert in the
technicalities of the black and white letter of the law.
To try and beat this case at on a legal front,
(27:33):
not a factual front. So that's what's happening.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Now.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Another important thing that's happening that we heard from Tony Busby,
who has the big eight.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Hundred number behind him.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
As opposed to our nine nine did did he molest you?
All of these women and men coming forward, including twenty
five miners, have a similar story. That's critical in the
practice of law because these witnesses don't know each other,
(28:08):
yet their stories are startlingly similar. What are we learning
about the alleged modus operandi method of operation of Sean
Diddy comes listen?
Speaker 3 (28:21):
Typically, the victim is lured into a situation where she
or she is given or dreaming.
Speaker 9 (28:27):
Typically that drink reported by these victims is apparently laced
with something. Once that drink takes effect, the perpetrators perform
all kinds of sexual acts on the victims, many times
passing him or her around.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
As other people watch and enjoy the show, and then
leave the.
Speaker 9 (28:47):
Victim of shamed, confused, injured, and wondering what happened.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
When the victim reaches out, he or she is told
not to say anything.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
Sometimes there are threats of all physical violence or find repercussions.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Body long too doctor Leslie Dobson, joining US clinical forensics
psychologists at dodtor Lesliedobson dot com. Also author doctor Leslie
one Well. Many characteristics, but one repeating theme. A recurring
theme is how Combs aka Ditty aka Puff Puff Daddy, Puffy.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Love Sean Love Come. It is whatever puts on a show.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
He's like the puppeteer and the victim is the puppet
with a parade of typically men abusing the victim putting
on a show.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
For Combs, what is that.
Speaker 7 (29:51):
He's got a style right, that's his grooming and he
enjoys these high levels of stimulation and risk. For somebody
who specializes in high risk sexual violence, he is one
of the most dangerous people I have ever seen in
my career.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Yeah, I'm very curious what you make of claims that
he is motivated by.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Some sort of voyeurism.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
It's not him always performing the rape on the victim.
He is very often, if not mostly, sitting back and
watching somebody else attack the victim.
Speaker 7 (30:30):
There's an element of sadism.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
He is enjoying the pain.
Speaker 7 (30:35):
And voyeurism is when an individual is sexually stimulated by
watching another person engage in sex and then when you
bring in that element. They are stimulated because of the
sadistic nature involved in watching the sex.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Out crime stories with Nancy Grace.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
So to Ariel Mitchell Kid now representing another alleged victim
of Sean Comes, what I'm getting at with doctor Leslie Dobson.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
You heard her definition of voyeurism.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
If this is Comes's addiction, that would explain the alleged
sale of ditty tapes pornographic tapes, how.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Does that fit in with your client?
Speaker 10 (31:28):
Well, my client doesn't know, at least as of now,
if anything was recorded, at least in this scenario, it
wasn't at one of his homes, like the stills of
the videotape that I saw, which is purported to be
at mister Colmbs, one of mister Colmbs's estates in Atlanta, Georgia.
So I've actually been told by the individual who wanted
(31:50):
me to sell the one tape that they had three tapes.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
And though everything, I got to hear that more slowly,
Ariel Mitch Kid joining us, So you have seen steals
of a porn tape with Combs in it.
Speaker 10 (32:08):
Yes, And part of the reason I did not want
to engage in any seale or have anything to do
with it is because they could possibly be a minor
in that videotape. It could be chow pornography, and I
have a lot of extensive experience with dealing with cases
with child pornography, and I know where my duties are.
(32:29):
I cannot determine if this person is seventeen, eighteen, nineteen twenty,
or twenty one, but I did see the steals in
an effort to authenticate that there actually was a tape.
Speaker 12 (32:39):
The FEDS are still gathering evidence against Sean Dinny Holmes,
according to TMZ, and anonymous male sex worker has met
with agents to hand over a Freakoff tape. The escort
was reportedly flown from Atlanta to Miami to participate in
the freak off and even detailed the drugs Combs used
to apply the woman he had sex with in the video.
(33:02):
This as FEDS are still on the hunt for private
medics who hooked up victims to ivs after the hours
or days long sex assaults.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
And that is where the entire criminal enterprise alleged in
the federal indictment. That's what they're talking about now. We
understand that the FEDS are on the hunt for medics
that applied or helped facilitate IV drug drips to victims
to recuperate after freak coughs.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
I want to.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
Circle back to Aerol Mitchell Kid regarding the porn tape
she says she saw, then also go back to Fitzgibbons
regarding the potential of an ai A false tape. But Ariel,
this is not the first we've heard of porn tapes
being circulated. Porn tapes as they relate to Combs, There's
(33:56):
got to be a treasure trove of porn tapes.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
If he videoed all of these freak offs, I.
Speaker 10 (34:02):
Would believe that there is a considering. I know of
one source who purports to have three tapes, one of
which I have seen a steal of. They did invite
me to come to Beverly Hills and view all three
of the tapes if I was so inclined to take
this responsibility on with which I declined, which is how
(34:22):
we got to the point of me seeing the stills
of the tape. As I'm an attorney, once I see
these certain things, I would have a duty not only
to report these things, but be called upon as a witness,
as an officer of the court.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Well, you're absolutely right, Ariel Mitchell.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
Kid in the stills that you saw of one of
the tapes, what did you observe?
Speaker 10 (34:45):
I observed mister Colmbs and another extremely high profile individual
engaged in homosexual activities.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Alex West, joining us from the mirror. That is a
whole another line of potential indictment, a whole another avenue
the sale or the manufacture or distribution dissemination of porn.
And that's a very loose term. I mean, all the
(35:17):
US Supreme Court will say about porn is we know
it when we see it. Okay, just because people are
naked having sex does not necessarily mean a crime. However,
if you're videoing someone without their knowledge and then disseminating that,
that's a whole other animal. What can you tell us
about people peddling ditty porn tapes?
Speaker 6 (35:41):
Yeah, what I do know is while that could be
another indictment, could be another charge or revenge porn. This
has come up over and over again in the civil
lawsuits and these victims. One of the big things you're
asking for is not just financial compensation, but for those
tapes to be destroyed. They found it affects their life,
their livelihood. They've said that in center to plenty of people.
(36:01):
They've heard from other people that their videos have been
sent to them without their knowledge, and they find out
years later. Some of these people are a legend that
their assault took place years ago, and they've worked on it,
they've tried to heal from that, and then it comes
back up years later when they find out that did
he allegedly sent us to other people, and now they
(36:22):
have to start that trauma process all over again. And
that's what they're saying in these civil lawsuits. So could
it be an avenue for investigators to look into, Absolutely,
and they have some place to start with the civil lawsuits.
Speaker 4 (36:32):
Another individual, twenty six at the time of the occurrence,
was picked up by allegedly by mister Comes and several
other people in a black suv from the airport, was
given one drink in the suv and then literally woke
up the next day not knowing what had happened, but
(36:53):
with pain and damage to both her agina and her age.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
I'm telling you, when a jury hears that they're going
to do a backflip. That's Tony Busby, attorney speaking about
over three thousand people coming forward He's called it down
to over one hundred that he believes are legitimate sex
claim sex assault claims against Combs straight out to Brian
Fitzgibbons joining US Direct Operations, USPA Nationwide Security. How can
(37:23):
I make sure that these videos we're talking about, pornographic
in nature are legit? How can I tell if they've
been doctored, if they've been edited, if they've been spliced together,
if they're not AI?
Speaker 1 (37:37):
How do you do that?
Speaker 8 (37:38):
This is going to be very difficult for the untrained
eye to detect an AI video At this point. The
deep faith technologies have advanced in leaps and bounds over
the last few years. But the good news is for
attorneys and prosecutors the technology is even more advanced on
the other side to identify this. As long as attorneys
(38:01):
and prosecutors are using the right technologies, they can run
these videos through a systems of scans that will tell
you that it's been faked.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
While there are allegations and this is by Tony Busby.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
That there will be celebrities named in these lawsuits.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
You heard Ariel Mitchell Kidd state that she observed a
celebrity in one of these tapes. Lynn Shaw, celeb or
no celeb. There are a lot more victims out.
Speaker 5 (38:32):
There, So what we have to say about this again,
I always want to put the focus on the victim,
this survivor. I have to talk to women and girls.
It's called violence in America, rape against women, and they
will be asking me I know about this case. They
want to know why he was allowed and all the
people around him to do this and get away with
(38:53):
it for decades. So we want to put the focus
on that survivor, on that trauma, and how we can
intervene and help them. Because they tell me they walk
in a supermarket, a drug store, they think people are
staring at them. It goes on all their lives. And
now we're talking about kids miners, which we always heard
about SEESAM child sexual abuse material. This is horrendous. Again,
(39:15):
I want to remind everybody, let this be a lesson
that this goes on. No celebrity culture, society is worth this.
And where again, we're all the other participants people, He
did not do this alone. Where was everybody when all
of these people and especially children were involved. It's disgusting,
it's bizarre. Call out the National Guard. We need vetting,
(39:36):
We need to prove that he did all of this
with all his gang and put him away forever.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
Imagine living through a brutal sex assault where your videoed
and you have no recollection of it, and then you're
presented with the video and that hangs over your head.
Is my husband going to find out, my boyfriend, my
children is going to go online?
Speaker 1 (40:00):
Living with that the rest of your life?
Speaker 2 (40:02):
When you were too afraid to come forward to start with,
you heard Ariel Mitchell kid Her client ran from Diddy's home,
according to her, and banged on a neighbor's door to
get help and filed a police report, but was too
afraid to say two words. Sean comes, Well, we're not
(40:24):
afraid anymore. You know what we've got on our banner
Tonight N nine Diddy molest you. There is an actual
toll free hotline number at this point eight hundred two
zero zero seven four seven four.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
Can you imagine.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
One person has a toll free number for all the
alleged victims to call.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
That's where we're at.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
And believe you mean the Feds ain't sitting back not
paying attention. And remember an American hero, Sergeant Robert Blaine
Swartz Oklahoma County Sheriffs Sorts shot and killed in the
line of duty. A US Army Vet Sergeant, Schwartz served
(41:15):
over twenty five years with Oklahoma Sheriffs. Survived by his
mom Phyllis. Don't you know she's so proud of him,
son Austin, and grandchildren Reagan and Rowan American hero Sergeant
Robert Blaine Swartz.
Speaker 1 (41:37):
End of Watch.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
Thank you to all of our guests being with us,
but especially to you for joining us.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
Nancy Grace signing off, goodbye friend.
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