February 1, 2025 • 44 mins
A court has dismissed one of the original cases against the Alexander brothers, who are accused of multiple sexual assaults. Angelica Parker alleged that the brothers assaulted her and a friend after giving them ecstasy without their knowledge.
A federal judge dismissed the case, ruling it was not filed within the time frame set by a New York state survivors' law. The law allowed claims to be filed from November 2022 to November 2023, but Parker's suit was filed in June 2024. She has until February 14 to file an amended complaint.
The Alexander brothers are accused of using their wealth and influence to create opportunities to sexually assault women. More than 40 women have come forward with allegations, and investigators are urging others who believe they were assaulted to contact authorities. Attorneys for the brothers say they plan to plead not guilty. If convicted, they face life in prison.
The three brothers—twins Oren and Alon Alexander and their older brother Tal—come from a high-profile real estate background. Tal and Oren brokered a $47 million deal for their father in 2012 and a $240 million Manhattan condo sale in 2019. Alon attended law school before joining the family's private security company, Kent Security.
Each brother has been accused of forcible rape by at least 10 women. All three are indicted on federal sex trafficking charges, while Oren and Alon also face sexual battery charges in Florida. The Alexanders have denied the allegations in civil cases, with their representatives suggesting the accusers are attempting to extort them.
Court documents detail accounts from alleged victims. "Victim-1" claims she was raped by Tal Alexander and other men in 2021 at a home in the Hamptons. She says she felt unwell after drinking a glass of wine, then recalled Tal holding her down as another man entered the room. She later woke up in a separate room, where a camcorder was set up.
Another alleged victim, referred to as "Victim-2," told investigators that Oren raped her. She says Oren gave her a cocktail, after which she felt strange and struggled to walk. Alon then took her to a bedroom to lie down. She recalls waking up to find Oren in the room. He allegedly pulled down her bathing suit and raped her while she was "physically impaired and could not move."
Joining Nancy Grace today:
- Neama Rahmani – Former Federal Prosecutor-turned-Trial Attorney; Author: “Harvard to Hashtag;” INSTAGRAM: @Neamarahmani/ X: @NeamaRahmani
- Caryn L. Stark – Psychologist, Renowned TV and Radio Trauma Expert and Consultant; Instagram: carynpsych/FB: Caryn Stark Private Practice
- Bill Daly – Former FBI Investigator and Forensic Photography, Security Expert
- Lynn Shaw – Founder and Executive Director of Lynn’s Warriors Host of Lynn’s Warriors on YouTube, lynnswarrior.org, X: @lynns_warriors Youtube: @LynnsWarriors
- Christina Aguayo – National News Anchor, Salem News Channel, website: www.ChristinaAguayoNews.Com, Facebook: @ChristinaAguayoNews, Instagram: @Christina.AguayoNew
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
In the Last Days. A bombshell move in the case
of the so called real estate Bros. Three brothers rolling
in money charged with sex trafficking and rape. I'm Nancy Grace.
This is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us
in the last days. A federal judge throws out a
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lawsuit filed in New York accusing the brothers of rape.
That's right, even though they're under federal indictment for multiple rapes.
A lawsuit filed in New York claiming real estate moguls
towel or in an Elain Alexander rape to.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Woman was thrown out?
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Why US District Judge Lewis Kaplan of the Southern District
of New York rule the rape accusation by Angela Parker
against the brothers would have taken place too long ago,
falling outside the state statutes of limitation. For the case
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to move forward, the rape would have had to have
happened after June eighteenth, twenty seventeen.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Isn't there a way to toll the statute?
Speaker 2 (01:21):
What is at the heart of the allegations against the
so called real estate Bros.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
A trio of brothers, luxury real estate agents to the
super rich indited on federal sex trafficking and battery charges.
Claims go back more than.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
A decade, claims going back more than a decade.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Try two decades. Now, forty women that we know of.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
The claiming these filed the rich real estate moguls took
part in rape after rape after systematic rape, and that
the allegations go back to when they were in a
high school. All that money, all that privilege and education
has bought them a one way ticket to Hell with
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a pitstop and the federal penitentiary.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
That's my prediction.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
But I want you to hear what Damian Williams, the
US attorney, has to say.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
The Alexander brothers and other men they planned the trips
with paid for the flights or accommodations for the women
on these trips, and at times the defendants handpicked the
women to invite. At other times they used paid party
promoters to source women for them. The indictment also alleges
that in advance of these events, the Alexander brothers and
others procured drugs that they agreed to provide to the women,
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including cocaine, mushrooms, and GHB.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
As we allege that these drugs.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
Caused some of the women to be physically unable to
fight back or to escape.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Now you know why they're calling it the new ditty
or should I say the new ditties? Now that's what
the US attorney he is saying for the US is
tread for the Southern district. But I want you to
look at orin Alexander on the founder.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Having the abilities to work with my brothers, have a
partner with your brother. Just think about that for a second.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
It's the biggest issue you have in partnership is trust
and knowing that.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
You don't have to.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Worry, honey, you got something to worry about.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Now, what if your brother flips on you and testifies
against you.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Let's just analyze what we just heard. And that's where
our friends.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
That from the founder on YouTube, that's or an Alexander
one of the and I mean filt the rich rolling
in money, that's or an Alexander quote. Having the ability
to work with my brother, to have a partner who's
your brother, you know, just think about that for a second.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Don't worry, I'm thinking about it.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
The biggest issue you have in partnership is trust and
knowing you don't have to worry.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Okay, what happened with me? An All Star panel, Let's
get to it straight out to.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Christina Yo joining US national news anchor Salem News Channel.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Christina, thank you for being with us.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
I'm really curious about how much money these two have,
and this goes all the way back. Their family is wealthy,
their grandfather wealthy, blah blah blah blah, kind of like
Luigi MANGIONI just all that money to silver spoons in
the mouth.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
And yet this what happened, Christina.
Speaker 5 (04:31):
You know, actually I think it started way back when
they were in high school. As people are now starting
to come out and say that they actually had a
sex fan that was parked in front of their parents
forty million dollars beachfront of state where the boys, the
brothers in high school would take women to have sex
in that bus.
Speaker 6 (04:48):
In front of their parents' house.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
So this has been behavior that has been encouraged, perhaps
by their parents, all the way through. Then you add
the hundreds of millions of dollars and properties that these
brothers have sold in the security business, and they're pretty
much running around town doing anything that they want, including
according to prosecutors drugging women raping women. Each brother has
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separately been accused of at least ten rapes, ten forcible
rapes by women, and prosecutors are saying that.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Hey, hey, Christina, Christina Ohio, hold on, don't wait a minute,
we were just looking at them. Karen Stark, why is
it so hard for people to believe that super wealthy,
college educated, great job guys can commit heinous crimes. That's
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what he posted on his own Facebook.
Speaker 7 (05:43):
Go ahead, well, I really believe Nancy, and people see
this outward of parents. They're dressed so well, they look
so terrific that they buy that that they believe that
that's what they really like, and they have no idea
what's going on behind the scene. And actually the fact
that he says he trusts his brother, I was thinking, yeah,
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they trust. All of them trust each other in supporting
the crimes that they committed, which made it even worse
because they were encouraged.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Nima Ramani is joining US high profile lawyer out of
the California jurisdiction and for my purposes, former federal prosecutor,
president of the West Coast Trial Lawyers and author of
Harvard to hashtag Nima, thank you for being with us.
Many people not familiar with our world of crime would.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Say, hey, why do they have to rape women? With
good looks?
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Of course they're not attractive to me. I think they
look like Satan himself. But with good looks and all
that money, they could get any woman they want, so
why rape a woman? That kind of argument has actually
worked on jury's before, Nima, it has.
Speaker 8 (06:51):
But Nancy, this isn't just having sex with women. We're
talking about drug induced orgies. Right. We're multiple men, including
the two others, are allegedly having sex with the same woman.
So yeah, women might want to have sex with a handsome,
wealthy man, but not get in a situation where they're
having an orgy and they are being violated by multiple men.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Your speaking sense to me, Yes, I know that. That's
my point, Nama, I'm like two steps beyond that. Of course,
what you just said is right. What I'm saying is
it would be argued to a jury just look at them.
Why would they have to source women with a pr
person in other words, basically pimp pimp for the brothers
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because they could get any woman they want. Therefore, ergo
they're innocent.
Speaker 8 (07:41):
It's not just any woman, Nancy. They need new women
every single night, and they want to do things to
these women that a lot of women wouldn't consent to. Now,
obviously this is a family show, so I'm not going
to get into all that. But that's why they're using
drugs like GHB to drug these women so they can't
say no. That's what this is all about. And Zatal
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as old as time doesn't matter if it's the Alexander Brothers, Diddy,
I can see that.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
I'm clearly I think you and I have a communication
problem because you're just basically saying everything that I say.
I'm Linn Shaw helped me out here, founder executive director
Lynn's Warriors, committed to ending sex attacks on children and women.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Lynn Shaw.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
I'm trying to make the point that the argument will
be made by the defense. I already know the facts
is presented by the state. Everything that Ramani just said,
I get it. I've read the indictment. Okay, the defense
is going to argue at trial they don't need to
rape women.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
They can get any woman they want. Therefore, this is consensual.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
That's bs it's argued in so many rape cases.
Speaker 9 (08:54):
I call them the Alexander brothers crime family, and I
call these Dirty Diddy complicit wannabes. Listen, the egos are
so big they're out of control. Again, this is the
same story we heard with Ditty and others facing charges
like this, that so many vulnerable girls and women. I'm
(09:14):
gonna throw in the girls again. I wish we could
get down to were there any miners involved, but that
will unfold at some point. They want to see and
live this lifestyle. Many of these women were approached online
complete strangers, and they said, we'll fly you out, we'll
give you hotels, we'll give you parties, we'll give you clothes,
and vulnerable people girls especially, really want to experience this.
(09:40):
I'm here to say if this case can help us
educate the general public, because we're hearing about all these
you know, Dirty Ditty, We're hearing about Tape Brothers, We're
hearing about Jeffrey Epstein, we're hearing about now these criminal
Alexander brothers.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
If it could, if it.
Speaker 9 (09:55):
Could water down eventually, my hope is to everyday cases
that are happening, that nobody will ever hear those victims,
see those victims, so we can educate everybody when they
offer you something like this, this lifestyle for free, They're
going to fly you somewhere run in the other direction.
This is again their powers, their money, their egos, their homes,
(10:16):
overtaking people's common sense. We have to do better educating
the public, girls and women about all of this.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Their family wealth has been estimated, correct me if I'm wrong, Christina,
a whyo joining me from Salem Use Channel over one
hundred and fifteen million dollars.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
Correct, And I'm I'm sure that's even more than that is.
The parents have offered to put up to one billion
dollars to get their three boys out of prison, out
on bail. They've even offered to put them up in
a second story apartment complex where they're jail time, pre trial,
that has no beachfront, that has no luxury that's you know,
guarded twenty four to seven h guard way.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Whoa whah, white white white Christina, Wait, did you say
the parents want to get them out of jail on
a billion as in brother b brother billion dollar bill.
And the.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Jail is because they don't have a.
Speaker 5 (11:18):
Beach, they won't have a water view, they won't have
any orgies, and it won't be luxuries so that's what
they're considering to be jail. And yes, up to one
billion with a beach is what they're willing to put
up to get their three sons out of prison.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Bill Day, it's the ditties, It's the new ditties because
all the money procuring the women, making other people be
your hench person to bring women to you, to drug
them and rap them. Those are the allegations that presumed innocent.
But also is Luigi Manngioni all over again. Here is
a rich brat kid whining about how US common people
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have to live with the healthcare industry while he's in
a beach front Hawaii luxury high rise condo. His great
grandparents and grandparents broke their backs coming to this country
and becoming millionaires, working up from nothing nothing, passing it down,
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so Luigi Mangioni could wind in his luxury condo.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
These two same thing, Bill.
Speaker 10 (12:26):
Yeah, And in this case, they've actually built their business,
so they've built their brand. They now feel omnipotent. I
mean they have money, they're they're traveling with celebrities, they're
flying on private jets. You know, they're selling these huge,
multi multi million dollar properties. They are getting headlines in
all kinds of media, including their own real estate empire.
(12:47):
So you know these are the paper people. If I
put a profile around them, not an FBI profile, but
I know enough of them to speak about how these
people become it can become emboldened, emblazoned. It's both feeding
the ego as well as also just their ability to
control things. So they like to be able to control everything,
whether it's the deal or people.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Guess what, I got a superseding indictment.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
I bet that's making Nima Ramani just clench because when
you see the FEDS have a superseding indictment, this is
for conspiracy to commit sex trafficking on.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
These rich brats. That means, hey, we have one go
at you, but we're not through.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
We're issuing a revised, a new and improved indictment with
more charges. It supersedes the previous indictment. Yeah, they may
be rolling in money, but apparently the.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
FEDS don't care so exactly. Who are the so.
Speaker 11 (13:47):
Called real estate Bros. There are three Alexander brothers. Two
of the brothers are twins or an Alon, their older
brother Tall Tall and or In Alexander are known in
the world of high priced real estate, having broken to
four nine million dollar deal for their dad in twenty
twelve and a two hundred and forty million dollar deal
for a Manhattan condo sale in twenty nineteen, while Oran's
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twin brother Alan attended law school before joining the family's
private security company Ken Security.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
In the Last Days a major blow to an alleged
rape victim. A federal judge throws out a lawsuit. That's
a civil suit filed in New York against the Alexander
brothers accusing them of rape. The alleged victim, Miss Parker,
claims in the fall of twenty twelve, she and a
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friend were invited to one of the brother's apartments in Manhattan,
where they were given ecstasy and drinks.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
She says she was enraped.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
By a lawn and tow Alexander while Oran Alexander watched,
noting her friend was hiding in a stairwell after being
groped by a lawn Alexander. In a sixteen page written order,
Judge Kaplan gave Parker until Feb fourteen to file emotion
(15:16):
requesting an amendment relating to tell Alexander, who she claimed
attempted to sex assault her years later? Can that charge
be revived? If not, the entire lawsuit will be thrown out.
But wait a minute, the Feds have a massive indictment
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against all three brothers.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
What's that all about.
Speaker 12 (15:42):
In a fifteen million dollar Upper east Side townhouse, the
Alexander Twins Orin and Elon celebrate their twenty eighth birthday.
Celebrants are greeted by a nearly naked woman on display
as a toy for the rich and famous to play
with as they take turns dripping hot wax on the woman,
setting the tone for the decade at night that await
those who are rich enough and or famous enough to
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be invited to the Alexander twins birthday pash, what am
I hearing?
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Wait a minute.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
A fifty million dollar Upper east Side townhouse, the real
estate bros celebrate their twenty eighth birthday. Celebrates greeted by
a nearly naked woman on display as a toy for
the rich and famous to play with as they take turns.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Dripping hot wax on her. Deja vous? Huh does this
remind you of anything?
Speaker 8 (16:38):
Hi?
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Diddy? There, you are nothing like eating soush.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
You off a naked lady on display for the rich
and famous. I mean, it's like an echo chamber in here. Well,
guess what the Feds apparently in this case anyway, don't
care how rich you are or whether you're eating soush
often naked lady at a luxury party, or you have
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her on display so rich people can drip wax on her.
Listen to the US Attorney for the Southern District, Omni.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
Or the Alexander Brothers, sometimes acting alone, sometimes with each other,
and sometimes with other men, forcibly raped and assaulted the women.
As the indictment alleges, the Alexander Brothers sex trafficking agreement
went beyond the planned trips and events. On numerous occasions,
one or more of the defendants drugged and raped or
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sexually assaulted women they encountered by chance at bars, at nightclubs,
social events, and dating apps. These assaults allegedly had many
of the same hallmarks as the rapes that occurred at
group events, isolated locations, drug victims, force and physical restraint.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
It's really a lot to take in.
Speaker 6 (17:54):
You know.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Very often, as a former prosecutor prosecuting nothing but violent felonies,
I would catch myself wondering why, for instance, why not
just date a woman and have a relationship and have
sex with her and not drug anybody and rape and
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sodomize them in a party, in a party setting with
a lot of guys standing around. But then I realized,
about five years into that kind of thinking, why ask why?
Speaker 1 (18:31):
It doesn't matter. I had one job to seek the truth.
Who did, what, where, when? And why?
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Why not so much to Karen Stark, renowned psychologists joining us, Karen,
it's not about sex.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
That's a simple answer for me.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Why don't the real estate bros with all their money
and all their high rise.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
To just go date somebody and have a sex life.
It's not about the sex.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
What is it?
Speaker 7 (18:58):
It's a perversionancy. They're getting off on raping, sateomizing. A
normal relationship the kind that you're referring to does not
excite them. They have gotten used to this kind of
rape and violence since they were in high school, and
this is what gets them excited. Nothing else.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Talk about a wolf in sheep's clothing.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
These wild extravagance parties that cost hundreds of thousands of
dollars were not.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Parties at all.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
They were just a RUSS to find sex assault victims
for the New Deities.
Speaker 11 (19:37):
Listen, the fabulous parties with fabulous people might have been
a cover for something sinister preplanned by the Alexander brothers.
Each of the three brothers has been accused of forcible
rape by at least ten women. All three indicted on
federal charges of sex trafficking, while the twins aren't in
a lawn are charged with sexual battery in Florida. The
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Alexanders have denied the allegations in this civil cases, and
their reps have previously gone so far as to suggest
the accusers were trying to shake down the brothers.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Second verse, same as the first. Do I have to
say deja vu all over again? Why the real estate
bros Are called the new didties? Same thing now? They
called it fabulous parties. Diddy calls it freakoffs.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
Combs allegedly planned and controlled the sex performances, which he
called freakofs, and he often electronically recorded them. The freak
offs sometimes lasted days at a time, involved multiple commercial
sex workers, and often involved a variety of narcotics such
as ketamine, ecstasy, and GHB, which Combs distributed to the victims.
Speaker 13 (20:47):
To keep them obedient and compliant, as alleged, when Combs
didn't get his way, he was violent and he subjected
victims of physical, emotional, and verbal abuse so that they
would participate in the free golfs.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
To Christina Alaio, joining US investigative reporter and news anchor,
the comparison between the real estate Bros and Ditty are inescapable.
Speaker 6 (21:14):
They are.
Speaker 5 (21:14):
They both are basically using their power and influence to
allegedly drug and rape women. However, the brothers have been
doing this I think longer than Diddy, all the way
tracing back to high school. I think they were encouraged
to do it with their lifestyle and they have been
described as being very aggressive, very bullish, very attackive when
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it comes to working in business. And also you have
people from their high school years who are coming forward
saying that they did it in high school and people
were scared. Everybody in the community was scared to speak
out because they had so much power, they had so
much prominence, because they had so much influence. And the
same goes for Diddy. He has so much power and
so much money. People don't want to talk out against it.
People are scared that their careers are going to be ruined,
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that they're never going to be let back into the
music industry, that they'll be black listed from certain events.
And I think the same is true for the Brothers
from Miami all the way to Florida. People are scared
of not being believed. People are scared of having their
lives ruined. They're scared of accusing men who have so
much power and so much money.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Crime stories with Nancy Grace.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
A major blow to an alleged rape victim when a
federal judge throws out her civil case against the so
called real estate Bros, some people calling them the rape Bros.
Of course, they remain innocent until proven guilty. What is
at the heart of the federal case.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
The Alexander Brothers await rape charges in jail. As a
New York federal judge deems the trio flight risks, they're
extradited to the same jail as Diddy, as the Metropolitan
Detention seter Loo.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
The Alexander Brothers a so called real estate bros rolling
in money, also called the New Ditties. All of their
trouble started, well, it really started all the way back
in high school when they're accused of sex assaulting women.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
All the way back then, but the current day problems
i e.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Their rape charges all started when one woman spoke out.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
According to prosecutors, the rapes and sex assaults have.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Been going on for years and years and years until
this woman spoke out.
Speaker 11 (23:37):
Listen, The Alexander Brothers fall from grace begins when the
Real Deal reports on damning lawsuits brought by alleged victims
Kate Wyman and Rebecca Mandel. Wyman alleges the brothers abducted
her in twenty twelve and brought her to a Hampton's
party palace in Watermill, Long Island, where the brothers allegedly
dragged her into a large bedroom where she was sexually assaulted,
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abuse raped, pinned, groped, harassed, battered and fondled by a
lawn and or in Alexander.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Isn't it amazing? Linn Shaw joining us from Lyn's Warriors,
how it only.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Takes one person, one person to stand up and be counted,
one person to speak out, even though they may be
afraid for the whole house of cards.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
To fall down.
Speaker 9 (24:22):
Yeah, but we have to educate everybody that we will
give you safety, We will give you guardrails.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
We will stand next to you.
Speaker 9 (24:29):
That is what I'm hoping all of these dirty ditties
and this Alexander Brothers crime family will bring more public
awareness again watering down to you know, maybe that team
that lives in the Bronx or something like that, that
they can come forward. We will take care of them.
But I want to point something out. There was so
much video evidence here, and I want to go back
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to what happened with all those videos where they uploaded
to porn sites? Was there millions of dollars? Because we
do a lot of work with.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
This Wait a minute, Lynn Shaw, hold on, you're exactly
right straight out to Christina at Yo joining US news anchor,
investigative reporter. What are the so called trophies of the
real estate bros thats just have just been revealed.
Speaker 5 (25:13):
Yes, well, it's one thing to have a witness testimony, right,
but it's an entirely different situation when you have video evidence.
Speaker 6 (25:19):
As we just saw with the Cassie and Diddy situation.
Speaker 5 (25:22):
Prosecutors and investigators rated tell Alexander's Manhattan apartment and they
found a hard drive.
Speaker 6 (25:29):
Filled with pictures and videos.
Speaker 5 (25:31):
They're saying in these videos of course, there's the quote
unquote Orgys or the sessions where alleged rape is happening.
They're saying that women can be seen highly intoxicated on
alcohol or maybe even drug. They're saying they're seeing in
these videos where the brothers are physically manipulating these women's
bodies to have sex with them. And most of the time,
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they're saying, these women do not know they're being recorded.
There's this one incident that they explain that a woman
and a man are having sex in a stall and
another person is recording over the stall with a camera,
and when the woman sees it, she protests, she says no.
Speaker 6 (26:06):
So it's going to be pretty difficult.
Speaker 5 (26:08):
For whatever reason they kept these videos or they have
these videos, it's going to be difficult to defend this
in court.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Christina, you stated that one of the videos was taken
over a stall.
Speaker 6 (26:18):
What yep, So a man and a woman were having sex.
Speaker 5 (26:20):
It didn't detail if that was forced rape, It didn't
detail what that was exactly. But there is a third
person who is holding a video camera up over the
bathroom stall where the woman and man are inside of
that stall having sex, and the woman sees the camera,
she tells them to stop, and they don't stop. And
that's what prosecutors are saying. They're not listening to these women.
They're manipulating their bodies, and they won't stop when the
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women are asking them to stop.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Trophies trophies to Nima Romani joining us former federal prosecutor,
president of West Coast Trial Warwyors, author of Harvard to
hashtags Nima trophies have been the undoing of so manique
criminals explain.
Speaker 8 (27:01):
Oh, it's great evidence if you're a prosecutor, because people
can lie. Criminal defendants lie all the time, even witnesses
and victims can sometimes lie. But video doesn't lie. And
when you have video of these sex acts, that is
the best evidence when you're a prosecutor, because really there's
only two defenses in any sex trafficking case. Either the
sexual activity didn't happen, or it was consensual. That's it.
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And once you have that video, it certainly takes away
the first defense, and then when women are being drugg
takes away the second as well. And there's really two
reasons why people record these sex acts. The first is
their own deviant sexual pleasure, and I think that's probably
why Diddy was recording his freak offs. But there's the
second reason, and that is to have control over the victims,
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potentially blackmail them and say, hey, if you come after me,
I'm gonna leak these videos.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Christina Uyo, isn't it true that these videos were pulled
off of a hard drive that was found hidden in
a closet during a federal search, Yes, in.
Speaker 5 (28:04):
Tall Alexander's Manhattan apartment, So they were really searching.
Speaker 6 (28:07):
They had the warrant to go through everything, and he
kept them. He kept them on a hard drive.
Speaker 5 (28:10):
And it's not just videos, it's pictures as well. And
it goes to show that just like he said, men
light women light witnesses lie perhaps, but the video is
not going to lie. And this is pretty tough evidence. However,
the defense is already saying that this doesn't prove anything.
This doesn't prove a commercial act, This doesn't prove that
they were drugged. It may prove that they're intoxicated, but
he's saying, oh, these are just big orgies. Everybody was
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willing and there is nothing going on here, So next story, please,
you know.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
It reminds me.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
In the last few days, Seawn comes aka Diddi's defense
team has stated they want the freak call videos to
be made public because it quote proves his innocence. Okay, sure,
you know another thing, If it's so innocent, why was
it hidden in a closet. But thinking about the videos,
the trophies pulled from a hard drive in the real
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estate bro's closet, it reminds me of a certain raid
that went down on San Combs's mansion. In that case,
as well, Bill Daily, former FBI trophies quote trophies.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
Were obtained during that raid.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Bill Daily video equipment was reportedly discovered, along with over
one thousand bottles of lubricant baby oil. Trophies have been
the bane of many criminals existence why trophy well, you.
Speaker 10 (29:34):
Know, and as if you go to other kind of
repeat offenders, repeat criminals such as Dennis Raider, the buying
torture kill fiend. You know, they either keep pieces of clothing,
they keep some something to remind them something, who's going
to get them excited, Something's going to you know, make
them remember how how wonderful it was that they controlled
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this person, that they did what they did.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
And so for all these things, it's it's why are
you putting perfume on the pig.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Daily, that's not like you the souvenirs, the trophies quote
get them excited.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
You may give them an erection.
Speaker 10 (30:09):
Well, you know that as well as sharing among other people,
being able to. In some cases they like to share
it because they've they've had this experience of other people.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
They keep it.
Speaker 10 (30:18):
They look at themselves, you know, maybe other people. They
let them see that. That all kind of gives them
a sense of control. It goes back to that essence
of controlling individuals, controlling their environment, doing what they want
to do, using that leverage over people. You know. In
this case, Nancy, in a very interesting point it came up,
which is simply what we've seen in other cases, is
that as the FBI was investigating this, reports are coming
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out that multiple victims have the same stories. Again, people
who've been not connected, not there at the same place,
same time, but have the same story to tell. All
of that is extreming and as part of what I
believe the FBI is and the US the Attorney's officers
making their case out of is that they have statements
and it would encourage people.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
Yeah, I'm very true, Bill Daily, I think this goes
beyond your or my kin colloquial for understanding joining me.
Psychologist Karen Stark. Everything Bill Daily said is correct, But
what is the reason, the mental or the psychological reason
that people like Dennis Raider or in this case, the
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real estate bros also called the rape bros.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
But those are just accusations. Why keep all these videos
they're damning.
Speaker 7 (31:30):
It's a wonderful way for them to relive the crime.
Nancy and whatever got them off when they were doing it,
whatever got them excited and gave them erections and orgasms.
They can do that all over again repeatedly because they
have these trophies. It's great if it's a video, but
it can be an airing. It could be a necklace,
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it could be a piece of clothing. It doesn't matter.
They wind up reliving the excitement that they felt at
the time and how much they controlled the situation.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
For years.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
The Alexander brothers, sometimes with others, also arranged domestic and
international trips to carry out their sex trafficking scheme. To
recruit and induce women to come on the trips, they
provided material benefits, things they travel to, vacation destinations, luxury,
accommodations and access to other high end experiences.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Are the claims true? Should I believe the real estate Bros?
Or should I.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Believe all of the women now coming forward, some of
them named in federal indictments, others filing civil suits. What's
very hard for many people to understand, including myself, is
how the real estate bros.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
Acted, how they faked a happy home life.
Speaker 11 (32:55):
Listen, the Alexander brothers are all married now. Alahn married
Shaney Zigrin, with whom he has two children, in May
of twenty twenty. Or In married model Camilla Hanson in
April twenty twenty three, and Tall married Ariel CogAT in
October of twenty twenty three. Or In pleaded with a
judge to let him out as his wife was pregnant
and do any day. His request was denied.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
That's something the baby can say as it grows up.
Dad was in jail on rape charges when I was born.
This whole facade of a happy family again, it's diddy REDIU.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Listen, be happy.
Speaker 10 (33:35):
I love you.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
Two of you get hit on the phone on the time.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
To Vetterman. Try a lawyer.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Former Felany prosecutor Nima Romani Nima. It would not be
the first time a so called family man was ultimately
convicted of repeat offenses. I mean, there's Dinner Raider that
Bill Daley brought up earlier, who would sex assault and
kill so many women and including young girls on his
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dog catching route the whole time.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
He had a family at home, and he was a
deacon in the church.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Then you've got Gaysey John Wayne Gacy, who would go
to children's birthday parties to entertain the children dressed as
a clown.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
I don't know how many boys bodies were pulled out
of his crawl space.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Then you got Ted Bundy, who seemingly was a successful
law school student.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
He's a serial killer.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
He goes on and on, and do I have to say,
Rex Huerman, the eight hundred pound gorilla in the room,
the architect by day, serial killer by night, with a
wife and two children.
Speaker 8 (34:49):
Nancy and Human's wife actually saw some of these sex acts,
at least allegedly, So this question of what she knew, Well,
this is criminal defense lawyer in one on one. They
want to show the jurors that the defendant has family support.
That's why you see Ditty's family at every single appearance.
That's why I fully expect the Alexander brothers to have
their parents, the wives who haven't filed divorce to be
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at those court proceedings, because that's what jurors expect. They
want to see the family members supporting the folks who
are accused and are on trip.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
And like Didty, the new Ditties have a fantastical scheme
of how they're going to stay out of MDC Metropolitan
Detention Center listen.
Speaker 11 (35:31):
In a crazy bid to keep their boys out of incarceration,
the parents of the Alexander brothers have offered to provide
private imprisonment. In a real proposal to authorities, Shlomo and
Early Alexander proposed confining the brothers to a two bedroom
apartment on the eighth floor of Miami building, emphasizing the
apartment is non waterfront and non luxury. They promised security
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guards would be stationed around the clock and an alarm
system would make sure the brothers remain on site. The
parents also offered to put up to one billion dollars
bail for their sons to get out of jail.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
In case you didn't get that, it's one billion as
in brother biz and brother not million billion, the parents
offering to put up one billion dollars cash to get
their sons out of jail. Maybe they were going to
put in some equity into that, but one billion dollars
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bill to get their sons out and having them imprisoned
in a Miami high rise. And the suffering part was
that they wouldn't get a beach front view ouch.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
That has to hurt. How dare you, Mommy and Daddy
Christina Wyo.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
It's reminiscent of the last bid, well, the last three
bids by Sean Combs to get out on bid where
he offered the judge a multimillion dollar bill package. I
think it was twenty mil and he would stay in
a Manhattan town home with his own private security guards
to keep him from raping people.
Speaker 5 (37:07):
Eerie echo, right, And that's the draw, right exactly. I
promised not to rape anybody during this time. I promise
that I'm not going to have any orgies. In fact,
I won't even have any women over so that in
and of itself is a huge punishment. This is the
same thing that we're seeing with these brothers, and quite frankly,
I don't know how much the parents can be trusted
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in this whole situation because we talk about pretending to
have a perfect family. But I go back to the
sex bus that was sitting outside of their forty million
dollar home as the brothers were in high school, and
people have said witness testimony, they are saying that back
in those days, that women in the scene, in the
Miami scene because for some reason, high school brothers were
in the Miami scene. They were warned not to drink
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any drinks that came from the brothers and to stay
away from the brothers because they had already been known
way back in high school to be sexually assaulting women.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
Crime stories with Nancy Grace a blow to.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Rape victims everywhere when a federal judge throws out a
civil case filed by an alleged rape victim.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
But wait, is there light at the end of the tunnel.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
There is a massive criminal case now filed against the
millionaire real estate brothers.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
New York prosecutors Hey assaults day back to high school,
describing the number of victims as quite significant, and.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
The numbers are mounting.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
What started with one woman speaking out about an alleged
sex assault turns into a federal indictment on sex trafficking.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
There are so many, so many victims.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
Will the superseded indictment be superseded to include more victims?
Speaker 1 (38:56):
Listen.
Speaker 12 (38:57):
The Alexander brothers are accused of using their wealth positions
to create and facilitate opportunities to rape and sexually assault women.
So far, more than forty women have come forward accusing
the three Alexander brothers of sexual misconduct, and investigators are
asking other women who believe they have been assaulted to call.
Attorneys for the brothers say they planned to plead not
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guilty to the charges, which, if convicted, could land all
three brothers in prison for life.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
As we are.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
Discussing these alleged acts, sex assault, rape, sodomies, that's what
we're saying. Reportedly date all the way back to when
the real estate brose were in high school.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
Listen.
Speaker 14 (39:37):
As news of the arrests start to spread, stories from
the Alexander brothers high school years come to light. Their
history of sexual violence dates back decades to their high
school days in Miami, where they bragged about several gang rapes.
Prosecutors say each of the victims that the government has
interviewed from this period reported hearing that individuals involved, including
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tal Alexander, talked about assault at school, boasting about running
train on their victims and saying they wanted to do
it again.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
You know, Lynn Shaw.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
As many rape and sodomy cases that I've investigated, I
have tried, have pled out to jail time, have covered.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
It's still it's disgusting.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
It makes something and you want to die to hear
about them bragging about quote running train on the victims,
which means multiple rapists on one victim, saying they quote
wanted to do it again. It never ceases to be
heartbreaking that a victim would go through this.
Speaker 9 (40:46):
Well, we can't die, Nancy. We have to stand for
those that don't have a voice. And I want us
to focus on two things here. I want us to
focus on where was mama Alexander. We're talking about a
sex bus when these trio of a triplets already to
eat triplets were right part right in front of their
their multimillion dollar mansion. I'm telling you, as a mother,
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I knew when my kids moved a throw pillow on
my couch. Where were the parents at this time? And
throughout all of this. The second thing I want to
and we have to talk about that because people have
to start standing up. Where were these parents? They were
the talk of the town. We're hearing, you know, in
the Miami, Florida area, So we should focus on that.
I also want to focus on you're not going to
see their wives in court with them. Those women are
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taking their kids and running for the hills. One has
already filed for divorce. Okay, they're going to turn evidence
on them. They're beautiful young women, they have some young children,
a newborn baby.
Speaker 6 (41:37):
They're not sticking.
Speaker 9 (41:38):
Around for this. And the third thing I want to
get back to we're not talking enough about is that
oldest brother with his security firm. There is video evidence.
Where are all those videos going? I guarantee, I hope
we have a forensic accountant coming along. That they have
been uploaded not only to control their victims and to
scare them, they have been uploaded to porns where these
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monsters make millions and millions of dollars across the globe.
And these are things we should be looking at.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
Karen, start joining me, renowned psychologists joining us out of
Manhattan tonight. Karen, I haven't told you this story about
the twins. You know, I have Bark on all their devices.
They know I have Bark on all their devices. So
I got an alert about my son who scrubbed in sunshine,
an alert from Bark.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
I'm like, uh oh, what happened on Fortnite? I look
and it said sex. I'm like, so it shows you
what it was.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
Okay, I get an alert every time something disturbing comes up.
For instance, one time it said self harm.
Speaker 1 (42:42):
It was of him.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
He had taken a picture of a bruise he got
diving through a soccer net to save a goal.
Speaker 1 (42:48):
Okay, that was self harm. This about sex. Guess what
it was, Karen Stark.
Speaker 2 (42:54):
It was the Nancy Gray Show. It was a banner
the program we did about Blake Lively. I had the
word sex harass in it. The Nancy Gray Show popped
up on his Bark. So my point is, where were
the parents?
Speaker 1 (43:11):
I'm looking at Bark every time I get an alert,
and they're never anything. Where were the parents? Lynn is right?
Speaker 7 (43:20):
You know what's so outrageous, Nancy, is that these same
parents are saying that they want to give a billion
dollars and they'll make sure that these guys have no
opportunity to do anything. They won't face the ocean. They
will make sure that they can't do any harm. But meanwhile,
there was the van parked outside their very own home.
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And what they didn't know what their voice were doing.
They didn't hear any of the rumors, they didn't investigate.
It's as though they supported all of this.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
Oh, Karen Stark, you know what. Of course, the parents
aren't charged with anything, but I would have been right
there at that van.
Speaker 2 (44:02):
Come out, everybody, I mean, no way that said, let
me give everyone the eight hundred line one, eight hundred
two two five five three two four repeat eight hundred
two two five five three two four.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
We wait as just as unfalls. Goodbye, friend,
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
In the Last Days. A bombshell move in the case
of the so called real estate Bros. Three brothers rolling
in money charged with sex trafficking and rape. I'm Nancy Grace.
This is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us
in the last days. A federal judge throws out a
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lawsuit filed in New York accusing the brothers of rape.
That's right, even though they're under federal indictment for multiple rapes.
A lawsuit filed in New York claiming real estate moguls
towel or in an Elain Alexander rape to.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Woman was thrown out?
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Why US District Judge Lewis Kaplan of the Southern District
of New York rule the rape accusation by Angela Parker
against the brothers would have taken place too long ago,
falling outside the state statutes of limitation. For the case
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to move forward, the rape would have had to have
happened after June eighteenth, twenty seventeen.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Isn't there a way to toll the statute?
Speaker 2 (01:21):
What is at the heart of the allegations against the
so called real estate Bros.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
A trio of brothers, luxury real estate agents to the
super rich indited on federal sex trafficking and battery charges.
Claims go back more than.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
A decade, claims going back more than a decade.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Try two decades. Now, forty women that we know of.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
The claiming these filed the rich real estate moguls took
part in rape after rape after systematic rape, and that
the allegations go back to when they were in a
high school. All that money, all that privilege and education
has bought them a one way ticket to Hell with
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a pitstop and the federal penitentiary.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
That's my prediction.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
But I want you to hear what Damian Williams, the
US attorney, has to say.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
The Alexander brothers and other men they planned the trips
with paid for the flights or accommodations for the women
on these trips, and at times the defendants handpicked the
women to invite. At other times they used paid party
promoters to source women for them. The indictment also alleges
that in advance of these events, the Alexander brothers and
others procured drugs that they agreed to provide to the women,
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including cocaine, mushrooms, and GHB.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
As we allege that these drugs.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
Caused some of the women to be physically unable to
fight back or to escape.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Now you know why they're calling it the new ditty
or should I say the new ditties? Now that's what
the US attorney he is saying for the US is
tread for the Southern district. But I want you to
look at orin Alexander on the founder.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Having the abilities to work with my brothers, have a
partner with your brother. Just think about that for a second.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
It's the biggest issue you have in partnership is trust
and knowing that.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
You don't have to.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Worry, honey, you got something to worry about.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Now, what if your brother flips on you and testifies
against you.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Let's just analyze what we just heard. And that's where
our friends.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
That from the founder on YouTube, that's or an Alexander
one of the and I mean filt the rich rolling
in money, that's or an Alexander quote. Having the ability
to work with my brother, to have a partner who's
your brother, you know, just think about that for a second.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Don't worry, I'm thinking about it.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
The biggest issue you have in partnership is trust and
knowing you don't have to worry.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Okay, what happened with me? An All Star panel, Let's
get to it straight out to.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Christina Yo joining US national news anchor Salem News Channel.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Christina, thank you for being with us.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
I'm really curious about how much money these two have,
and this goes all the way back. Their family is wealthy,
their grandfather wealthy, blah blah blah blah, kind of like
Luigi MANGIONI just all that money to silver spoons in
the mouth.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
And yet this what happened, Christina.
Speaker 5 (04:31):
You know, actually I think it started way back when
they were in high school. As people are now starting
to come out and say that they actually had a
sex fan that was parked in front of their parents
forty million dollars beachfront of state where the boys, the
brothers in high school would take women to have sex
in that bus.
Speaker 6 (04:48):
In front of their parents' house.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
So this has been behavior that has been encouraged, perhaps
by their parents, all the way through. Then you add
the hundreds of millions of dollars and properties that these
brothers have sold in the security business, and they're pretty
much running around town doing anything that they want, including
according to prosecutors drugging women raping women. Each brother has
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separately been accused of at least ten rapes, ten forcible
rapes by women, and prosecutors are saying that.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Hey, hey, Christina, Christina Ohio, hold on, don't wait a minute,
we were just looking at them. Karen Stark, why is
it so hard for people to believe that super wealthy,
college educated, great job guys can commit heinous crimes. That's
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what he posted on his own Facebook.
Speaker 7 (05:43):
Go ahead, well, I really believe Nancy, and people see
this outward of parents. They're dressed so well, they look
so terrific that they buy that that they believe that
that's what they really like, and they have no idea
what's going on behind the scene. And actually the fact
that he says he trusts his brother, I was thinking, yeah,
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they trust. All of them trust each other in supporting
the crimes that they committed, which made it even worse
because they were encouraged.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Nima Ramani is joining US high profile lawyer out of
the California jurisdiction and for my purposes, former federal prosecutor,
president of the West Coast Trial Lawyers and author of
Harvard to hashtag Nima, thank you for being with us.
Many people not familiar with our world of crime would.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Say, hey, why do they have to rape women? With
good looks?
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Of course they're not attractive to me. I think they
look like Satan himself. But with good looks and all
that money, they could get any woman they want, so
why rape a woman? That kind of argument has actually
worked on jury's before, Nima, it has.
Speaker 8 (06:51):
But Nancy, this isn't just having sex with women. We're
talking about drug induced orgies. Right. We're multiple men, including
the two others, are allegedly having sex with the same woman.
So yeah, women might want to have sex with a handsome,
wealthy man, but not get in a situation where they're
having an orgy and they are being violated by multiple men.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Your speaking sense to me, Yes, I know that. That's
my point, Nama, I'm like two steps beyond that. Of course,
what you just said is right. What I'm saying is
it would be argued to a jury just look at them.
Why would they have to source women with a pr
person in other words, basically pimp pimp for the brothers
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because they could get any woman they want. Therefore, ergo
they're innocent.
Speaker 8 (07:41):
It's not just any woman, Nancy. They need new women
every single night, and they want to do things to
these women that a lot of women wouldn't consent to. Now,
obviously this is a family show, so I'm not going
to get into all that. But that's why they're using
drugs like GHB to drug these women so they can't
say no. That's what this is all about. And Zatal
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as old as time doesn't matter if it's the Alexander Brothers, Diddy,
I can see that.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
I'm clearly I think you and I have a communication
problem because you're just basically saying everything that I say.
I'm Linn Shaw helped me out here, founder executive director
Lynn's Warriors, committed to ending sex attacks on children and women.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Lynn Shaw.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
I'm trying to make the point that the argument will
be made by the defense. I already know the facts
is presented by the state. Everything that Ramani just said,
I get it. I've read the indictment. Okay, the defense
is going to argue at trial they don't need to
rape women.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
They can get any woman they want. Therefore, this is consensual.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
That's bs it's argued in so many rape cases.
Speaker 9 (08:54):
I call them the Alexander brothers crime family, and I
call these Dirty Diddy complicit wannabes. Listen, the egos are
so big they're out of control. Again, this is the
same story we heard with Ditty and others facing charges
like this, that so many vulnerable girls and women. I'm
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gonna throw in the girls again. I wish we could
get down to were there any miners involved, but that
will unfold at some point. They want to see and
live this lifestyle. Many of these women were approached online
complete strangers, and they said, we'll fly you out, we'll
give you hotels, we'll give you parties, we'll give you clothes,
and vulnerable people girls especially, really want to experience this.
(09:40):
I'm here to say if this case can help us
educate the general public, because we're hearing about all these
you know, Dirty Ditty, We're hearing about Tape Brothers, We're
hearing about Jeffrey Epstein, we're hearing about now these criminal
Alexander brothers.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
If it could, if it.
Speaker 9 (09:55):
Could water down eventually, my hope is to everyday cases
that are happening, that nobody will ever hear those victims,
see those victims, so we can educate everybody when they
offer you something like this, this lifestyle for free, They're
going to fly you somewhere run in the other direction.
This is again their powers, their money, their egos, their homes,
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overtaking people's common sense. We have to do better educating
the public, girls and women about all of this.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Their family wealth has been estimated, correct me if I'm wrong, Christina,
a whyo joining me from Salem Use Channel over one
hundred and fifteen million dollars.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
Correct, And I'm I'm sure that's even more than that is.
The parents have offered to put up to one billion
dollars to get their three boys out of prison, out
on bail. They've even offered to put them up in
a second story apartment complex where they're jail time, pre trial,
that has no beachfront, that has no luxury that's you know,
guarded twenty four to seven h guard way.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Whoa whah, white white white Christina, Wait, did you say
the parents want to get them out of jail on
a billion as in brother b brother billion dollar bill.
And the.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Jail is because they don't have a.
Speaker 5 (11:18):
Beach, they won't have a water view, they won't have
any orgies, and it won't be luxuries so that's what
they're considering to be jail. And yes, up to one
billion with a beach is what they're willing to put
up to get their three sons out of prison.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Bill Day, it's the ditties, It's the new ditties because
all the money procuring the women, making other people be
your hench person to bring women to you, to drug
them and rap them. Those are the allegations that presumed innocent.
But also is Luigi Manngioni all over again. Here is
a rich brat kid whining about how US common people
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have to live with the healthcare industry while he's in
a beach front Hawaii luxury high rise condo. His great
grandparents and grandparents broke their backs coming to this country
and becoming millionaires, working up from nothing nothing, passing it down,
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so Luigi Mangioni could wind in his luxury condo.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
These two same thing, Bill.
Speaker 10 (12:26):
Yeah, And in this case, they've actually built their business,
so they've built their brand. They now feel omnipotent. I
mean they have money, they're they're traveling with celebrities, they're
flying on private jets. You know, they're selling these huge,
multi multi million dollar properties. They are getting headlines in
all kinds of media, including their own real estate empire.
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So you know these are the paper people. If I
put a profile around them, not an FBI profile, but
I know enough of them to speak about how these
people become it can become emboldened, emblazoned. It's both feeding
the ego as well as also just their ability to
control things. So they like to be able to control everything,
whether it's the deal or people.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Guess what, I got a superseding indictment.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
I bet that's making Nima Ramani just clench because when
you see the FEDS have a superseding indictment, this is
for conspiracy to commit sex trafficking on.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
These rich brats. That means, hey, we have one go
at you, but we're not through.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
We're issuing a revised, a new and improved indictment with
more charges. It supersedes the previous indictment. Yeah, they may
be rolling in money, but apparently the.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
FEDS don't care so exactly. Who are the so.
Speaker 11 (13:47):
Called real estate Bros. There are three Alexander brothers. Two
of the brothers are twins or an Alon, their older
brother Tall Tall and or In Alexander are known in
the world of high priced real estate, having broken to
four nine million dollar deal for their dad in twenty
twelve and a two hundred and forty million dollar deal
for a Manhattan condo sale in twenty nineteen, while Oran's
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twin brother Alan attended law school before joining the family's
private security company Ken Security.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
In the Last Days a major blow to an alleged
rape victim. A federal judge throws out a lawsuit. That's
a civil suit filed in New York against the Alexander
brothers accusing them of rape. The alleged victim, Miss Parker,
claims in the fall of twenty twelve, she and a
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friend were invited to one of the brother's apartments in Manhattan,
where they were given ecstasy and drinks.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
She says she was enraped.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
By a lawn and tow Alexander while Oran Alexander watched,
noting her friend was hiding in a stairwell after being
groped by a lawn Alexander. In a sixteen page written order,
Judge Kaplan gave Parker until Feb fourteen to file emotion
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requesting an amendment relating to tell Alexander, who she claimed
attempted to sex assault her years later? Can that charge
be revived? If not, the entire lawsuit will be thrown out.
But wait a minute, the Feds have a massive indictment
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against all three brothers.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
What's that all about.
Speaker 12 (15:42):
In a fifteen million dollar Upper east Side townhouse, the
Alexander Twins Orin and Elon celebrate their twenty eighth birthday.
Celebrants are greeted by a nearly naked woman on display
as a toy for the rich and famous to play
with as they take turns dripping hot wax on the woman,
setting the tone for the decade at night that await
those who are rich enough and or famous enough to
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be invited to the Alexander twins birthday pash, what am
I hearing?
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Wait a minute.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
A fifty million dollar Upper east Side townhouse, the real
estate bros celebrate their twenty eighth birthday. Celebrates greeted by
a nearly naked woman on display as a toy for
the rich and famous to play with as they take turns.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Dripping hot wax on her. Deja vous? Huh does this
remind you of anything?
Speaker 8 (16:38):
Hi?
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Diddy? There, you are nothing like eating soush.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
You off a naked lady on display for the rich
and famous. I mean, it's like an echo chamber in here. Well,
guess what the Feds apparently in this case anyway, don't
care how rich you are or whether you're eating soush
often naked lady at a luxury party, or you have
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her on display so rich people can drip wax on her.
Listen to the US Attorney for the Southern District, Omni.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
Or the Alexander Brothers, sometimes acting alone, sometimes with each other,
and sometimes with other men, forcibly raped and assaulted the women.
As the indictment alleges, the Alexander Brothers sex trafficking agreement
went beyond the planned trips and events. On numerous occasions,
one or more of the defendants drugged and raped or
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sexually assaulted women they encountered by chance at bars, at nightclubs,
social events, and dating apps. These assaults allegedly had many
of the same hallmarks as the rapes that occurred at
group events, isolated locations, drug victims, force and physical restraint.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
It's really a lot to take in.
Speaker 6 (17:54):
You know.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Very often, as a former prosecutor prosecuting nothing but violent felonies,
I would catch myself wondering why, for instance, why not
just date a woman and have a relationship and have
sex with her and not drug anybody and rape and
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sodomize them in a party, in a party setting with
a lot of guys standing around. But then I realized,
about five years into that kind of thinking, why ask why?
Speaker 1 (18:31):
It doesn't matter. I had one job to seek the truth.
Who did, what, where, when? And why?
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Why not so much to Karen Stark, renowned psychologists joining us, Karen,
it's not about sex.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
That's a simple answer for me.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Why don't the real estate bros with all their money
and all their high rise.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
To just go date somebody and have a sex life.
It's not about the sex.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
What is it?
Speaker 7 (18:58):
It's a perversionancy. They're getting off on raping, sateomizing. A
normal relationship the kind that you're referring to does not
excite them. They have gotten used to this kind of
rape and violence since they were in high school, and
this is what gets them excited. Nothing else.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Talk about a wolf in sheep's clothing.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
These wild extravagance parties that cost hundreds of thousands of
dollars were not.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Parties at all.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
They were just a RUSS to find sex assault victims
for the New Deities.
Speaker 11 (19:37):
Listen, the fabulous parties with fabulous people might have been
a cover for something sinister preplanned by the Alexander brothers.
Each of the three brothers has been accused of forcible
rape by at least ten women. All three indicted on
federal charges of sex trafficking, while the twins aren't in
a lawn are charged with sexual battery in Florida. The
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Alexanders have denied the allegations in this civil cases, and
their reps have previously gone so far as to suggest
the accusers were trying to shake down the brothers.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Second verse, same as the first. Do I have to
say deja vu all over again? Why the real estate
bros Are called the new didties? Same thing now? They
called it fabulous parties. Diddy calls it freakoffs.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
Combs allegedly planned and controlled the sex performances, which he
called freakofs, and he often electronically recorded them. The freak
offs sometimes lasted days at a time, involved multiple commercial
sex workers, and often involved a variety of narcotics such
as ketamine, ecstasy, and GHB, which Combs distributed to the victims.
Speaker 13 (20:47):
To keep them obedient and compliant, as alleged, when Combs
didn't get his way, he was violent and he subjected
victims of physical, emotional, and verbal abuse so that they
would participate in the free golfs.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
To Christina Alaio, joining US investigative reporter and news anchor,
the comparison between the real estate Bros and Ditty are inescapable.
Speaker 6 (21:14):
They are.
Speaker 5 (21:14):
They both are basically using their power and influence to
allegedly drug and rape women. However, the brothers have been
doing this I think longer than Diddy, all the way
tracing back to high school. I think they were encouraged
to do it with their lifestyle and they have been
described as being very aggressive, very bullish, very attackive when
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it comes to working in business. And also you have
people from their high school years who are coming forward
saying that they did it in high school and people
were scared. Everybody in the community was scared to speak
out because they had so much power, they had so
much prominence, because they had so much influence. And the
same goes for Diddy. He has so much power and
so much money. People don't want to talk out against it.
People are scared that their careers are going to be ruined,
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that they're never going to be let back into the
music industry, that they'll be black listed from certain events.
And I think the same is true for the Brothers
from Miami all the way to Florida. People are scared
of not being believed. People are scared of having their
lives ruined. They're scared of accusing men who have so
much power and so much money.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Crime stories with Nancy Grace.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
A major blow to an alleged rape victim when a
federal judge throws out her civil case against the so
called real estate Bros, some people calling them the rape Bros.
Of course, they remain innocent until proven guilty. What is
at the heart of the federal case.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
The Alexander Brothers await rape charges in jail. As a
New York federal judge deems the trio flight risks, they're
extradited to the same jail as Diddy, as the Metropolitan
Detention seter Loo.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
The Alexander Brothers a so called real estate bros rolling
in money, also called the New Ditties. All of their
trouble started, well, it really started all the way back
in high school when they're accused of sex assaulting women.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
All the way back then, but the current day problems
i e.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Their rape charges all started when one woman spoke out.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
According to prosecutors, the rapes and sex assaults have.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Been going on for years and years and years until
this woman spoke out.
Speaker 11 (23:37):
Listen, The Alexander Brothers fall from grace begins when the
Real Deal reports on damning lawsuits brought by alleged victims
Kate Wyman and Rebecca Mandel. Wyman alleges the brothers abducted
her in twenty twelve and brought her to a Hampton's
party palace in Watermill, Long Island, where the brothers allegedly
dragged her into a large bedroom where she was sexually assaulted,
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abuse raped, pinned, groped, harassed, battered and fondled by a
lawn and or in Alexander.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Isn't it amazing? Linn Shaw joining us from Lyn's Warriors,
how it only.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Takes one person, one person to stand up and be counted,
one person to speak out, even though they may be
afraid for the whole house of cards.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
To fall down.
Speaker 9 (24:22):
Yeah, but we have to educate everybody that we will
give you safety, We will give you guardrails.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
We will stand next to you.
Speaker 9 (24:29):
That is what I'm hoping all of these dirty ditties
and this Alexander Brothers crime family will bring more public
awareness again watering down to you know, maybe that team
that lives in the Bronx or something like that, that
they can come forward. We will take care of them.
But I want to point something out. There was so
much video evidence here, and I want to go back
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to what happened with all those videos where they uploaded
to porn sites? Was there millions of dollars? Because we
do a lot of work with.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
This Wait a minute, Lynn Shaw, hold on, you're exactly
right straight out to Christina at Yo joining US news anchor,
investigative reporter. What are the so called trophies of the
real estate bros thats just have just been revealed.
Speaker 5 (25:13):
Yes, well, it's one thing to have a witness testimony, right,
but it's an entirely different situation when you have video evidence.
Speaker 6 (25:19):
As we just saw with the Cassie and Diddy situation.
Speaker 5 (25:22):
Prosecutors and investigators rated tell Alexander's Manhattan apartment and they
found a hard drive.
Speaker 6 (25:29):
Filled with pictures and videos.
Speaker 5 (25:31):
They're saying in these videos of course, there's the quote
unquote Orgys or the sessions where alleged rape is happening.
They're saying that women can be seen highly intoxicated on
alcohol or maybe even drug. They're saying they're seeing in
these videos where the brothers are physically manipulating these women's
bodies to have sex with them. And most of the time,
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they're saying, these women do not know they're being recorded.
There's this one incident that they explain that a woman
and a man are having sex in a stall and
another person is recording over the stall with a camera,
and when the woman sees it, she protests, she says no.
Speaker 6 (26:06):
So it's going to be pretty difficult.
Speaker 5 (26:08):
For whatever reason they kept these videos or they have
these videos, it's going to be difficult to defend this
in court.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Christina, you stated that one of the videos was taken
over a stall.
Speaker 6 (26:18):
What yep, So a man and a woman were having sex.
Speaker 5 (26:20):
It didn't detail if that was forced rape, It didn't
detail what that was exactly. But there is a third
person who is holding a video camera up over the
bathroom stall where the woman and man are inside of
that stall having sex, and the woman sees the camera,
she tells them to stop, and they don't stop. And
that's what prosecutors are saying. They're not listening to these women.
They're manipulating their bodies, and they won't stop when the
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women are asking them to stop.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Trophies trophies to Nima Romani joining us former federal prosecutor,
president of West Coast Trial Warwyors, author of Harvard to
hashtags Nima trophies have been the undoing of so manique
criminals explain.
Speaker 8 (27:01):
Oh, it's great evidence if you're a prosecutor, because people
can lie. Criminal defendants lie all the time, even witnesses
and victims can sometimes lie. But video doesn't lie. And
when you have video of these sex acts, that is
the best evidence when you're a prosecutor, because really there's
only two defenses in any sex trafficking case. Either the
sexual activity didn't happen, or it was consensual. That's it.
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And once you have that video, it certainly takes away
the first defense, and then when women are being drugg
takes away the second as well. And there's really two
reasons why people record these sex acts. The first is
their own deviant sexual pleasure, and I think that's probably
why Diddy was recording his freak offs. But there's the
second reason, and that is to have control over the victims,
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potentially blackmail them and say, hey, if you come after me,
I'm gonna leak these videos.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Christina Uyo, isn't it true that these videos were pulled
off of a hard drive that was found hidden in
a closet during a federal search, Yes, in.
Speaker 5 (28:04):
Tall Alexander's Manhattan apartment, So they were really searching.
Speaker 6 (28:07):
They had the warrant to go through everything, and he
kept them. He kept them on a hard drive.
Speaker 5 (28:10):
And it's not just videos, it's pictures as well. And
it goes to show that just like he said, men
light women light witnesses lie perhaps, but the video is
not going to lie. And this is pretty tough evidence. However,
the defense is already saying that this doesn't prove anything.
This doesn't prove a commercial act, This doesn't prove that
they were drugged. It may prove that they're intoxicated, but
he's saying, oh, these are just big orgies. Everybody was
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willing and there is nothing going on here, So next story, please,
you know.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
It reminds me.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
In the last few days, Seawn comes aka Diddi's defense
team has stated they want the freak call videos to
be made public because it quote proves his innocence. Okay, sure,
you know another thing, If it's so innocent, why was
it hidden in a closet. But thinking about the videos,
the trophies pulled from a hard drive in the real
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estate bro's closet, it reminds me of a certain raid
that went down on San Combs's mansion. In that case,
as well, Bill Daily, former FBI trophies quote trophies.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
Were obtained during that raid.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Bill Daily video equipment was reportedly discovered, along with over
one thousand bottles of lubricant baby oil. Trophies have been
the bane of many criminals existence why trophy well, you.
Speaker 10 (29:34):
Know, and as if you go to other kind of
repeat offenders, repeat criminals such as Dennis Raider, the buying
torture kill fiend. You know, they either keep pieces of clothing,
they keep some something to remind them something, who's going
to get them excited, Something's going to you know, make
them remember how how wonderful it was that they controlled
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this person, that they did what they did.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
And so for all these things, it's it's why are
you putting perfume on the pig.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Daily, that's not like you the souvenirs, the trophies quote
get them excited.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
You may give them an erection.
Speaker 10 (30:09):
Well, you know that as well as sharing among other people,
being able to. In some cases they like to share
it because they've they've had this experience of other people.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
They keep it.
Speaker 10 (30:18):
They look at themselves, you know, maybe other people. They
let them see that. That all kind of gives them
a sense of control. It goes back to that essence
of controlling individuals, controlling their environment, doing what they want
to do, using that leverage over people. You know. In
this case, Nancy, in a very interesting point it came up,
which is simply what we've seen in other cases, is
that as the FBI was investigating this, reports are coming
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out that multiple victims have the same stories. Again, people
who've been not connected, not there at the same place,
same time, but have the same story to tell. All
of that is extreming and as part of what I
believe the FBI is and the US the Attorney's officers
making their case out of is that they have statements
and it would encourage people.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
Yeah, I'm very true, Bill Daily, I think this goes
beyond your or my kin colloquial for understanding joining me.
Psychologist Karen Stark. Everything Bill Daily said is correct, But
what is the reason, the mental or the psychological reason
that people like Dennis Raider or in this case, the
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real estate bros also called the rape bros.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
But those are just accusations. Why keep all these videos
they're damning.
Speaker 7 (31:30):
It's a wonderful way for them to relive the crime.
Nancy and whatever got them off when they were doing it,
whatever got them excited and gave them erections and orgasms.
They can do that all over again repeatedly because they
have these trophies. It's great if it's a video, but
it can be an airing. It could be a necklace,
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it could be a piece of clothing. It doesn't matter.
They wind up reliving the excitement that they felt at
the time and how much they controlled the situation.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
For years.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
The Alexander brothers, sometimes with others, also arranged domestic and
international trips to carry out their sex trafficking scheme. To
recruit and induce women to come on the trips, they
provided material benefits, things they travel to, vacation destinations, luxury,
accommodations and access to other high end experiences.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Are the claims true? Should I believe the real estate Bros?
Or should I.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Believe all of the women now coming forward, some of
them named in federal indictments, others filing civil suits. What's
very hard for many people to understand, including myself, is
how the real estate bros.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
Acted, how they faked a happy home life.
Speaker 11 (32:55):
Listen, the Alexander brothers are all married now. Alahn married
Shaney Zigrin, with whom he has two children, in May
of twenty twenty. Or In married model Camilla Hanson in
April twenty twenty three, and Tall married Ariel CogAT in
October of twenty twenty three. Or In pleaded with a
judge to let him out as his wife was pregnant
and do any day. His request was denied.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
That's something the baby can say as it grows up.
Dad was in jail on rape charges when I was born.
This whole facade of a happy family again, it's diddy REDIU.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Listen, be happy.
Speaker 10 (33:35):
I love you.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
Two of you get hit on the phone on the time.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
To Vetterman. Try a lawyer.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Former Felany prosecutor Nima Romani Nima. It would not be
the first time a so called family man was ultimately
convicted of repeat offenses. I mean, there's Dinner Raider that
Bill Daley brought up earlier, who would sex assault and
kill so many women and including young girls on his
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dog catching route the whole time.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
He had a family at home, and he was a
deacon in the church.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Then you've got Gaysey John Wayne Gacy, who would go
to children's birthday parties to entertain the children dressed as
a clown.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
I don't know how many boys bodies were pulled out
of his crawl space.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Then you got Ted Bundy, who seemingly was a successful
law school student.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
He's a serial killer.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
He goes on and on, and do I have to say,
Rex Huerman, the eight hundred pound gorilla in the room,
the architect by day, serial killer by night, with a
wife and two children.
Speaker 8 (34:49):
Nancy and Human's wife actually saw some of these sex acts,
at least allegedly, So this question of what she knew, Well,
this is criminal defense lawyer in one on one. They
want to show the jurors that the defendant has family support.
That's why you see Ditty's family at every single appearance.
That's why I fully expect the Alexander brothers to have
their parents, the wives who haven't filed divorce to be
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at those court proceedings, because that's what jurors expect. They
want to see the family members supporting the folks who
are accused and are on trip.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
And like Didty, the new Ditties have a fantastical scheme
of how they're going to stay out of MDC Metropolitan
Detention Center listen.
Speaker 11 (35:31):
In a crazy bid to keep their boys out of incarceration,
the parents of the Alexander brothers have offered to provide
private imprisonment. In a real proposal to authorities, Shlomo and
Early Alexander proposed confining the brothers to a two bedroom
apartment on the eighth floor of Miami building, emphasizing the
apartment is non waterfront and non luxury. They promised security
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guards would be stationed around the clock and an alarm
system would make sure the brothers remain on site. The
parents also offered to put up to one billion dollars
bail for their sons to get out of jail.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
In case you didn't get that, it's one billion as
in brother biz and brother not million billion, the parents
offering to put up one billion dollars cash to get
their sons out of jail. Maybe they were going to
put in some equity into that, but one billion dollars
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bill to get their sons out and having them imprisoned
in a Miami high rise. And the suffering part was
that they wouldn't get a beach front view ouch.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
That has to hurt. How dare you, Mommy and Daddy
Christina Wyo.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
It's reminiscent of the last bid, well, the last three
bids by Sean Combs to get out on bid where
he offered the judge a multimillion dollar bill package. I
think it was twenty mil and he would stay in
a Manhattan town home with his own private security guards
to keep him from raping people.
Speaker 5 (37:07):
Eerie echo, right, And that's the draw, right exactly. I
promised not to rape anybody during this time. I promise
that I'm not going to have any orgies. In fact,
I won't even have any women over so that in
and of itself is a huge punishment. This is the
same thing that we're seeing with these brothers, and quite frankly,
I don't know how much the parents can be trusted
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in this whole situation because we talk about pretending to
have a perfect family. But I go back to the
sex bus that was sitting outside of their forty million
dollar home as the brothers were in high school, and
people have said witness testimony, they are saying that back
in those days, that women in the scene, in the
Miami scene because for some reason, high school brothers were
in the Miami scene. They were warned not to drink
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any drinks that came from the brothers and to stay
away from the brothers because they had already been known
way back in high school to be sexually assaulting women.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
Crime stories with Nancy Grace a blow to.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Rape victims everywhere when a federal judge throws out a
civil case filed by an alleged rape victim.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
But wait, is there light at the end of the tunnel.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
There is a massive criminal case now filed against the
millionaire real estate brothers.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
New York prosecutors Hey assaults day back to high school,
describing the number of victims as quite significant, and.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
The numbers are mounting.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
What started with one woman speaking out about an alleged
sex assault turns into a federal indictment on sex trafficking.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
There are so many, so many victims.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
Will the superseded indictment be superseded to include more victims?
Speaker 1 (38:56):
Listen.
Speaker 12 (38:57):
The Alexander brothers are accused of using their wealth positions
to create and facilitate opportunities to rape and sexually assault women.
So far, more than forty women have come forward accusing
the three Alexander brothers of sexual misconduct, and investigators are
asking other women who believe they have been assaulted to call.
Attorneys for the brothers say they planned to plead not
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guilty to the charges, which, if convicted, could land all
three brothers in prison for life.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
As we are.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
Discussing these alleged acts, sex assault, rape, sodomies, that's what
we're saying. Reportedly date all the way back to when
the real estate brose were in high school.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
Listen.
Speaker 14 (39:37):
As news of the arrests start to spread, stories from
the Alexander brothers high school years come to light. Their
history of sexual violence dates back decades to their high
school days in Miami, where they bragged about several gang rapes.
Prosecutors say each of the victims that the government has
interviewed from this period reported hearing that individuals involved, including
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tal Alexander, talked about assault at school, boasting about running
train on their victims and saying they wanted to do
it again.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
You know, Lynn Shaw.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
As many rape and sodomy cases that I've investigated, I
have tried, have pled out to jail time, have covered.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
It's still it's disgusting.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
It makes something and you want to die to hear
about them bragging about quote running train on the victims,
which means multiple rapists on one victim, saying they quote
wanted to do it again. It never ceases to be
heartbreaking that a victim would go through this.
Speaker 9 (40:46):
Well, we can't die, Nancy. We have to stand for
those that don't have a voice. And I want us
to focus on two things here. I want us to
focus on where was mama Alexander. We're talking about a
sex bus when these trio of a triplets already to
eat triplets were right part right in front of their
their multimillion dollar mansion. I'm telling you, as a mother,
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I knew when my kids moved a throw pillow on
my couch. Where were the parents at this time? And
throughout all of this. The second thing I want to
and we have to talk about that because people have
to start standing up. Where were these parents? They were
the talk of the town. We're hearing, you know, in
the Miami, Florida area, So we should focus on that.
I also want to focus on you're not going to
see their wives in court with them. Those women are
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taking their kids and running for the hills. One has
already filed for divorce. Okay, they're going to turn evidence
on them. They're beautiful young women, they have some young children,
a newborn baby.
Speaker 6 (41:37):
They're not sticking.
Speaker 9 (41:38):
Around for this. And the third thing I want to
get back to we're not talking enough about is that
oldest brother with his security firm. There is video evidence.
Where are all those videos going? I guarantee, I hope
we have a forensic accountant coming along. That they have
been uploaded not only to control their victims and to
scare them, they have been uploaded to porns where these
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monsters make millions and millions of dollars across the globe.
And these are things we should be looking at.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
Karen, start joining me, renowned psychologists joining us out of
Manhattan tonight. Karen, I haven't told you this story about
the twins. You know, I have Bark on all their devices.
They know I have Bark on all their devices. So
I got an alert about my son who scrubbed in sunshine,
an alert from Bark.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
I'm like, uh oh, what happened on Fortnite? I look
and it said sex. I'm like, so it shows you
what it was.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
Okay, I get an alert every time something disturbing comes up.
For instance, one time it said self harm.
Speaker 1 (42:42):
It was of him.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
He had taken a picture of a bruise he got
diving through a soccer net to save a goal.
Speaker 1 (42:48):
Okay, that was self harm. This about sex. Guess what
it was, Karen Stark.
Speaker 2 (42:54):
It was the Nancy Gray Show. It was a banner
the program we did about Blake Lively. I had the
word sex harass in it. The Nancy Gray Show popped
up on his Bark. So my point is, where were
the parents?
Speaker 1 (43:11):
I'm looking at Bark every time I get an alert,
and they're never anything. Where were the parents? Lynn is right?
Speaker 7 (43:20):
You know what's so outrageous, Nancy, is that these same
parents are saying that they want to give a billion
dollars and they'll make sure that these guys have no
opportunity to do anything. They won't face the ocean. They
will make sure that they can't do any harm. But meanwhile,
there was the van parked outside their very own home.
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And what they didn't know what their voice were doing.
They didn't hear any of the rumors, they didn't investigate.
It's as though they supported all of this.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
Oh, Karen Stark, you know what. Of course, the parents
aren't charged with anything, but I would have been right
there at that van.
Speaker 2 (44:02):
Come out, everybody, I mean, no way that said, let
me give everyone the eight hundred line one, eight hundred
two two five five three two four repeat eight hundred
two two five five three two four.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
We wait as just as unfalls. Goodbye, friend,
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