October 15, 2025 • 45 mins
Police are desperately searching for 23-year-old Kada Scott, a Miss Pennsylvania hopeful.
Kada, a recent Penn State grad, was last seen at The Terrace at Chestnut Hill, shortly after clocking in for an overnight shift at the nursing home on Saturday, October 4. Kada did not return home, and her car was found still parked at the facility.
Kada is 5’ feet, 6 inches tall, weighing 120 pounds, with long black hair. She was last seen wearing black scrubs.
Anyone with information is asked to call Philadelphia PD at 215-686-TIPS.
Joining Nancy Grace today:
- Derek Smith - Criminal Defense Attorney
- Dr. Geri-Lynn Utter - Clinical Psychologist (specializing in psychological evaluations and risk assessments for individuals involved in the criminal justice system), Author of “Mainlining Philly: Survival, Hope and Resisting Drug Addition,” and “Aftershock: How Past Event Shake Up Your Life Today;" Producer of “Utter Nonsense,” a documentary of exploration of addition and severe mental illness, available to stream on Apple TV and Prime Video; Instagram & Facebook: DrGeriLynnUtter
- Brian Fitzgibbons - VP of Operations for USPA Nationwide Security; Instagram: @uspa_nationwide_security, Kingsman Philanthropic's 2022 rescue missions of women and children in Ukraine, Iraq War Veteranide_security
- Joe Holden - Chief Investigative Reporter and Anchor, CBS News Philadelphia, cbsnews.com/Philadelphia, Facebook: Joe Holden Reporter, X: @JoeHoldenCBS3
- Sydney Sumner - Investigative Reporter, 'Crime Stories'
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
A suspect being questioned at this hour as a miss
USA Hopeful seemingly vanishes into thin air from work tonight.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Where is Cada?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
We are being alled to believe that there is a
chance Cada is still alive. I Nancy Grace, this is
Crime Stories. I want to thank you for being with us.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
In the last hours.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Ellie Law enforcement making a public statement in the disappearance
of Cada, the miss USA Hopeful and they are on
the search for a nineteen ninety nine gold Toyota Camry.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Listen, we will ask for your help and locating of
this vehicle, which you'll get a little more information. It's
a nineteen ninety nine metild gold Toyota Camery with a
Pennsylvania tag of MSA X zero seven nine seven.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
But we need to know where this car is. We
need to find this car.
Speaker 5 (01:06):
It's a gold colored Camera nineteen ninety nine. It has
heavy front end damage on the left front bumper, all right,
that's been described that way several times. We know it's
been in the mount AIRYA area. We have photos of
it in Center City, we have pictures of it in
Grace Ferry area and in southwest Philadelphia, so it's possible
(01:26):
that it could be anywhere.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
There is a very strong belief within LA law enforcement
that Kita has been in that Toyota camera, that gold
colored Toyota camera. This will not be the first time
a case has been sold because of damage to a car.
Let me refer you to the case of co Ed
(01:48):
Molly Tibbets, who was kidnapped. Her case cracked because of
damage to the kidnapper slash killers car. Can we find Cada.
I'll take you back into that press in just one moment.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Right now, I'm being joined by.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Special guest Joe Holden, Chief investigative reporter and anchor, CBS
News Philadelphia. Joe, thank you for being with us. A
suspect is being questioned right now. But what the public
can do, what we can do is look for that
gold colored Toyota camray. What else did we learn in
(02:26):
the press or.
Speaker 6 (02:26):
Joe, Philadelphia Police essentially asking everybody in this city to
stop and remember if they've seen that car, or if
they're seeing it right now, to give them a call.
We also learned about a suspect now being held in
the case by the name of Keon King. He is
charged with Cada's kidnapping. They have the homicide unit on
(02:48):
this not because they believe that she is dead, but
they are using every experienced detective to try to locate
this sparkling, beautiful, twenty three year old and who went
missing on October fourth. One more thing. Keon King has
allegedly done this before. He was charged in January with
(03:09):
the abduction and strangulation of another woman. That woman did
not appear for the first court hearing, and then in
May the District Attorney's office withdrew the charges against Kon King.
They say this man is following a pattern of behavior.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Oh my stars.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Joe Holden joining me, Chief investigative reporter and anchor, CBS
News Philadelphia, you were reminding me of a case I
prosecuted where the killer had strangled women before they lived.
They lived, He walked just like in this case, and
he ended up killing my victim. I'm not sure why
(03:54):
that strangulation victim did not go forward with the case,
but I guarantee you, Joe Holden, there's more in his
than that. You don't go from kindergarten to a law
degree overnight. There's something else lurking in this guy's background.
Kean King, Okay, I want to go through how she
went missing. From what we know, Joe, she goes missing
(04:18):
from where she was working. There's a lot of confusion
about what time she clocked out. This is a facility,
a care facility.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
What is it, Joe? From where Kita goes missing.
Speaker 6 (04:30):
So it's an assisted living facility in the Chestnut Hill
section of Philadelphia, beautiful part of town. We learned from
police just moments ago. She's at work for at most
twenty minutes. This is ten o'clock on a Saturday night,
October fourth. She clocks in and then she clocks out.
Police say, now she is in communication with this Keon
(04:50):
King guy, and they leave together. She is not seen
after that. Nancy, there are no cameras. There are no
cameras in the parking lot. Tell us that of all
of the evidence they could have, they are missing the
basic with when she leaves this facility, where the hell
does she go?
Speaker 1 (05:09):
I don't believe it. I don't believe it.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
October fourth, Joe Holden, I do not believe that there
is not a scintilla a trace.
Speaker 6 (05:21):
She literally vanishes, she vanishes, She's not I mean, how
long we have.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
First of all, Joe Holden, let me call you on something.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
I find it very difficult to believe that it missed
at USA hopeful went willingly anywhere with Kean King.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
You said they left together.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
That may be true, but I don't know whether it
was willingly. Joe, I lived in the Chestnut Hill area
and this is not, uh the worst area of town.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
Not in the least.
Speaker 6 (05:55):
It is one of the nicer parts of Philadelphia. This woman,
we don't know how long she was interacting with this
Keon King, but let's just say for a fact, we
know her phone goes dead not long after she leaves
her place of employment. It has not been on since,
according to investigators. But guess what. What information they did
have with that phone is then paired with another phone,
(06:18):
and that other phone they then used to go all
over and track around her whereabouts. And then last week
there was this massive search at an arboretum three miles
from where she worked, and we know that they turned
that place upside down. Today we found out they really
didn't find anything useful in their investigation, but they've tracked
(06:40):
phones in and out of that property a few time since.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
Police announced just last Wednesday that.
Speaker 6 (06:47):
They were searching for this twenty three year old woman
and then boom, there are phones coming and going from
this property. They're tracking technology has police right on their tails.
And then today they make this arrest the charge of kidnapping,
and we got to wonder they wouldn't say, but what
statements or comments is mister King providing to investigators to
(07:09):
possibly lead them to Kata Scott.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
Where is she?
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Joe Holden is with US Chief Investigative Reporter anchor CBS
News Philadelphia. Joe, what I'm saying is when I was
living in the Philly.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Area, and this is way back after my.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Fiance was murdered, that was a safe, a very safe
area where that assistant living facility is. And what I'm
getting at is along that route there has to be
ring doorbell cam, there's got to be a redlight ham
something to pick up on where Cada was taken.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
And that gold Camri, that Toyota.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Camray and that is why we got to find that
camera because it's going to give up evidence. See that
damage on the front driver side, that may be a
distinguishing mark between that and every other gold Camri. M
mother s Serious x X ray zero seven nine seven
m mother s serious x X ray zero seven nine
(08:09):
seven to all our trucker friends listening now, please help
us find this Toyota Camry A ninety nine gold in color. Again,
Joe Holden, I guarantee you somebody has a doorbell cam Now,
I want to go back to what you were saying
about the phones traveling together. I've seen that in a
lot of investigations. Specifically, just an example, I'll throw out
(08:33):
Alex Murdock. He was traveling along with his wife Maggie's
phone until it was thrown out the window. All right,
so that tells me she was in the car for
that period of time, but very quickly, according to the parents,
her phone started going straight to voicemail. What can you
tell me about the route the two phones traveled together?
Speaker 6 (08:52):
So the route we know from leaving the assistant living facility.
Police are guarded in providing specific fix on that we
know that it is with then another phone, but they're
not saying much about where it goes from there.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Hmm Okay.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
The fact that they're not saying anything, Joe Holden tells
me it's critical. They're probably looking all around this route
to determine if there is a vacant lot if there
is somewhere where she could be being held.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Did you get the.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Oppressure from law enforcement, Joe that they believe there's a
chance Kada is still alive.
Speaker 6 (09:29):
That's how they're operating that we need to find Kata Scott.
We need to find miss Scott. We heard from the
District Attorney's office. They have so much manpower looking for
this beautiful, young, vibrant lady who competed in beauty pageants.
Her father told me last week she was sort of
new to it, but loved it, and they supported her.
(09:49):
They wanted her to go far, and her dreams were
coming to reality. And now all of this pressure to
find her, and they have a man that they believe
to be central to her disappearance sitting in the homicide
unit here in Center City Philadelphia, who has to answer
for what happened after they met up on Saturday, October.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Fourth, Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
I'm still not buying into the phraseology of meeting up.
I'm not down with that because this is a guy
that strangled another woman.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
What is she doing with him?
Speaker 2 (10:36):
I also know that she said she had been being
harassed in the days leading up to her disappearance, and
there's absolute evidence that that is true. But I want
you and I are talking about Kada because we've been
investigating her. We've been researching her, We've been watching her,
speaking to her parents, looking at.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Her all one.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
I want everybody else to meet her. Joe, don't move,
Joe Holden. Everyone, here's Kada.
Speaker 7 (11:00):
Hi, everybody.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
My name is Kita, and.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
I don't know what's up of content.
Speaker 8 (11:08):
I want to do it.
Speaker 9 (11:09):
I think I want to do.
Speaker 7 (11:12):
Lifestyle fish and girl talks, but this is the same
thing for today's is pretty pretty pretty cendrius and also
I'm period.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
With these pretty.
Speaker 7 (11:27):
Perfect glass space pretty much.
Speaker 9 (11:29):
Just going outside to look pretty, like, go to cafe
and just be productive. I don't want to make my
son knows and stuff for YouTube because I get backing
to YouTube. I want to make my summer plan and
my education plan and stuff like that. So yeah, I'm
gonna tak out when we want to see what the
day brings us.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
But that is from at one dash Cada on YouTube
Joe Holden. I swear I think I'm going to be sick.
She is so beautiful and vibrant, and she reminds me
so much of my daughter, you know, planning her outfits,
in her makeup, in school. This girl has just turned
(12:12):
twenty three. She's a little baby Joe.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
Charming, beautiful, lovely.
Speaker 6 (12:17):
She had plans, she had education plans, she had fashion plans.
And I know you're not buying that this whole meetup,
and maybe police are being guarded about the interactions, but
they're apparently now uncovering that she must have fallen into
the arms of a monster, of a predator, of a
man who has been charged once before with this type
of behavior. And now the question is is Kata Scott
(12:41):
still alive? They're asking the entire city to look around,
essentially for that Toyota Camery. Police said it had been
in Center City, Grace Ferry, all of these different neighborhoods
they're not even close to together. This car has been
all over the city since last week, and now they're
asking the public like find the car. We believe Kata
(13:02):
Scott was in it, as well as the suspect in
her abduction, mister Kean King.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Is he keeping her alive somewhere? Where is Kada?
Speaker 1 (13:13):
You know, Joe?
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Him driving all around does not give me a good feeling.
About why was he driving that car all over the
city and beyond.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Joe, It's not like he was going to.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
The grocery store in bat Or to work in back
like most of us do. Why is he just rambling
around after he's taken Kata.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
I don't like it, Joe.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
What more can you tell us about your thinking on this,
Joe Holden.
Speaker 6 (13:40):
My thinking is that last week when police were crawling
through this arboretum in East Germantown section of Philadelphia, they
had something good to go on there.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
I believe they really did.
Speaker 6 (13:52):
And then the car is all over the city from
one point to the next, nothing geographically makes sense. He's
moving around, he's doing something, and they had a tip
of some magnitude that brought them to that arboretum. Yet
they say they really didn't they didn't find much, But
I think there was something there. I know from my
(14:13):
sources they recovered a lot of stuff. They were trying
to process what it could mean for her disappearance. I
think that that arboretum is going to play a major
role as this investigation develops.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Joe, you keep saying arboretum.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Okay, explain to everyone what that is? And did law
enforcement call in cadaver dogs.
Speaker 6 (14:39):
The dogs were there, the cadets were there just to
walk a grid search linking almost arm in arm. It's
a fifty five acre property in East Germantown, densely wooded.
They went through this property with a fine tooth comb
just on Friday.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
They gathered a mattress.
Speaker 6 (14:59):
They got there's some other evidence that they weren't willing
really to disclose.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
But what they did pick up now.
Speaker 6 (15:05):
Today they're saying was really not really successful in terms
of the investigation moving forward.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
But thank god, and they got Joe that she's not
buried out in an arboretum somewhere.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Look at it. This is dance as a Jungle. Thank god.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
The few things they found we think are not connected
to Kita.
Speaker 6 (15:25):
Right, correct, Correct, at least at this point now, because
they're saying the arboretum proved to be rather unsuccessful in
the big picture.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
This reference at CBS Philadelphia.
Speaker 7 (15:36):
Hi, everybody, my name is Kita.
Speaker 10 (15:40):
And.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
I don't know what's up at concent. I want to
exude it.
Speaker 9 (15:45):
I think I want to do.
Speaker 7 (15:48):
Lifestyle fish a girl looks, but this is since I'm
being as is pretty pretty pretty cendried, and also I'm
curious is pretty.
Speaker 9 (16:03):
Perfect, glorious, pretty much just going outside to look pretty,
might go to cafe and just be productive. I don't
want to make my son knows and stuff for YouTube
because I gamba continue to I want to make my
summary plane and my education plan and stuff like this.
So yeah, I'm going to see I would want to
see what the day brings us.
Speaker 10 (16:24):
Kata was building a life. She loved running businesses, volunteering,
and sharing her journey online. But then the strange calls started.
She grew more cautious of what she posted online and
told her family she was being harassed.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
As we go to air, we are trying to absorb
everything we've just learned.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
At an LA law.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Enforcement press conference regarding Cada, they seem to indicate they
believe Kada is still alive. The miss USA hopeful vanishes
from work. We worked at a ritzy assisted living center.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
There.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
She is absolutely gorgeous. Let's dip into that pressor and
see what we learn.
Speaker 5 (17:10):
Our evidence is pretty clear that she was in communication
with an individual.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
That individual appears to meet.
Speaker 5 (17:19):
Her very shortly after she leaves her place of work,
and very shortly after that, she disappears.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
Off of the footprint.
Speaker 5 (17:30):
We have a lot of digital evidence, video and other
which provides us with this individual but a name m
keeon k e o n King ki Ng. We believe
this individual and through our evidence we were able to
charge this individual.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Chion King recently tried to strangle a woman. She lived
then dropped the prosecution. She was at FTA failure to appear.
Why joining me an all star panel? But I want
(18:09):
to go straight out to Brian Fitzgibbons. You're joining us
Director Operations USPA Nationwide Security, leading a team of expert
investigators around the world specializing in locating missing people. You
can find him at uspasecurity dot com. Brian, I don't
like that he is driving around all around town because
(18:32):
when I've seen that happens, it's off a normal route.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Okay, it's not like you going to work.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Are you going to your your site where you're working
in your case, going to the grocery store, going to church,
going to senegague, going to the school to pick up
your children.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
It's none of that.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
This is just driving aimlessly around Philadelphia and the suburban area.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Look, I lived in Philly.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
There are a lot of places you could hide a
living person, abandoned buildings, all sorts of places or worse,
what do.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
They need to be doing right now, mis Gibbons.
Speaker 11 (19:14):
As you saw in that Philly police press or Nancy,
everything is focused on this ninety nine gold colored Toyota.
They are tracking that vehicle all over the city. Now,
as you brought up, this is outside of a normal
behavior pattern. This vehicle is seen in the last ten
days in the north of the city, in the south
(19:35):
east west, inside of these densely wooded areas that are around.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
These population centers.
Speaker 11 (19:42):
So right now, the public's role is to help find
that vehicle. What police are doing is everything at their disposal,
license plate readers, ring cameras, security cameras, any footage of
that vehicle, along.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
With Keon King's cell phone. That's what they're tracking right now.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Guys were showing you the car again. Let's take a
look at it. This is a ninety nine golden color
Toyota camery. Look at the damage on the front left.
Look at that and along the driver's side of the car.
Looks like he sideswiped somebody at some point. That may
be the key to finding Cada. I'm also curious about
(20:23):
the moment they took him into custody for questioning where
was he? Where had he been? Can he be tracked
by his cell phone?
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Crime stories with Nancy Grace.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
The reality is Derek Smith is joining me a criminal
defense attorney website dwsmith Legal dot com. Very often we
can get in a jousting competition with local carriers like
at Verizon T Mobile, and you have to give them
a subpoena and that tykeson Fraira to get the records.
(21:06):
When there is an emergency, an emergency request by police
and a life hangs in a bounds, you can get
those records a lot more quickly. Agree disagree Derek Smith Absolutely, Nancy.
Speaker 12 (21:20):
I mean in cases of emergencies, there's laws, there's statutes
in place that enable law enforcement to speed up the
process and get necessary documents or information from third parties
in this situation, such as cell phone carriers, in order
to triangulate, try to figure out where these people may
be if they're using their phone. Obviously in this case
we saw that the phone was turned off. There's other
(21:40):
things that they can do in order to speed things
up for st to an investigation.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Well, hold on, Derek Smith, don't go to com four
on me.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Listen, you throw out the phrase triangulate, Explain to everyone
what that means. And remember, we don't have to look
for just her phone that was apparently cut off. We
can follow his phone as they were traveling together. If
he cut her phone off, that doesn't mean her phone
wasn't still with him. Okay, explain triangulation quickly, yes, Nancy.
Speaker 12 (22:11):
So these cell phone providers, can you know, with the
FBI local law enforcement, they can track a person's whereabouts
pursuance if they have their phone on them. They use
the simcards and they can follow their progress either where
they're driving in a car, where they're walking on the street.
They can use the pains off local cell phone towers
to get kind of an idea of where they are
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geographically and follow their path to see where they're going,
where they may have just started evidence. If they stop
in a certain area for a period of time, they
can say, all right, the cell phone pain stopped for
about ten to fifteen minutes, Why was this person in
this area for this period of time. Let's go check
that area out, and so on and so forth, And
that stuff is very important in an investigation, especially in
(22:53):
the missing persons to find out where they may be
and where.
Speaker 5 (22:57):
They may have gone.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Joining me as you met at earlier Bryan Fitzgibbons, USPA
Nationwide Security, who expertise is finding missing people. I find
it disturbing that she had the overnight shift right and
then suddenly she just clocked in and then suddenly leaves,
(23:20):
and from what we're being told, she had never done
anything like that before.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
I find that to be very primitive. In other words,
it proves something to me.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Like, if you got up from that seat and that
studio right now tonight and walked out, I would know
something was horribly wrong because you've never done that before.
I would assume there was an emergency similar to what
Kita did that night at the assisted living where she worked.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
She had never done that before, well out of the
course of her normal behavior.
Speaker 11 (23:51):
Nancy, and we also see in the videos that she's
sharing that this is incredibly disciplined young woman with goals.
She's got a prayer wall hung up on an on
her bedroom wall, she's talking about her education plan, she's
got fitness goals that she's pursuing. This is not somebody
that shows up to work and just bounces twenty minutes later.
(24:13):
So taking that in conjunction with the fact that she
was receiving these harassing texts and phone calls, this is
very concerning and out of the ordinary.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Now this is a warming but looks can be desaving.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Listen.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
Making it very clear that the case was shifted to
homicide because we have the most experienced investigators in our
homicide unit. They have the most experience dealing with all
types of investigations. They also have the most resources available
to them, and so we have the hopes that we
are still treating this as if Miscott is still alive,
and that's why we want the public health and trying
(24:52):
to locate every single piece of this. But I just
wanted to make that clear because I know there's been
some reports once it shifted over to homicide, folks understanding
the why, and so that's the reason behind that.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Very often we see a case go from kidnapping to
homicide because homicide has more resources. That's very very common
way in Fitzgibbons.
Speaker 11 (25:16):
You're going to have more detectives in that work homicide
number one. Number two, the resources that they.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
Have to fire out search warrants.
Speaker 11 (25:26):
The technological resources and savvy and know how it's going
to go way up. So bringing them in makes a
lot of sense in something that we've seen across the
country number of.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Times, guys, the case has been it's been declared now
a joint effort between kidnapping and homicide. Homicide has a
lot lot more resources, detectives, power.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Expertise, you name it.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
And that's why that's the cream of the crop that
goes to homicide. I want to go to doctor Jerlyn
Utter joining as clinical psychologist specializing in psychological evaluations and
risk assessments for people involved in the criminal justice system.
She's the author of main lining Philly. Doctor, thank you
(26:13):
for being with us. I would like to get in
your mind just a moment to discuss the psychopathy behind
someone that kidnaps a young woman and then keeps her hostage.
Speaker 8 (26:25):
Yeah, so when you talk about somebody like Kean King,
you want to keep a couple of things in mind.
The first thing is we know that he has engaged
in kidnapping and strangulation in the past, and unfortunately, what
happened with that case is that he was not rimanded,
he was not charged. And when you think like that,
when you're somebody that has gotten a way with hurting somebody,
(26:49):
with kidnapping a woman, and there's been absolutely no type
of repercussion. What happens is we tend to see an
escalation of violent behavior. There's complete disregard, and there's also
a sense of entire when you look at psychopathy, that
he keeps getting away with it. I'm smarter, They didn't
catch me this time. I'm bold and boldened to continue
to escalate behavior and do what he wants to do,
(27:12):
essentially in order to you know, like feed his own needs,
wants and desires. Because there hasn't been an opportunity where
he has been checked by the law or checked by anyone,
his behavior from a risk assessment perspective, will continue to escalate.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
You know what I find interesting about what you just
said so many things, jerlen Utter.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
I want to.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Look at the fact that when he strangled the last victim,
it was apparently to subdue her.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
She lived.
Speaker 8 (27:44):
Yeah, I mean again, when you talk about something you know,
like strangulation, and him trying to do that in an
effort to quiet her or to keep her. The intention
may not have initially been to kill her, but to
quiet her. However, there's a lot of other things that
are at play. You know, this is somebody that's putting
their hands around someone's neck and they're strangling. Then he
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doesn't know, he's not a medical professional, he doesn't know
how far he can go before he can actually kill
her or really, you know, hurt someone. The other thing
that we really want to think about, and I understand
that it's really easy to be angry, rightfully, so at
somebody with such a violent history and then has such
violent behavior, is is there another severe mental illness at
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play here? Yes, we're talking about somebody that can be
a sociopath that has no respect for women. You know
that he perhaps wanted to assault her and hurt her. However,
is there something else that's happened on her? We don't
know that.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
You are not in any way suggesting just because someone
is a violent criminal that they have a mental illness.
I hope that's not where you're going, because we have
no indication at all Kean King has any type of
mental illness, just that he's mad as hell.
Speaker 8 (28:55):
Yeah, well you can be that. You can be a
total scumbag, you can be mean as hell, you can
be in evil person. My suggestion is that both of
these things can happen at the same time. One of
them can happen, and you can just be pure evil.
So it would be very interesting as homicide continues to
question this individual to see if there's also anything else
at play, not as an excuse, but to gain more
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of an understanding of perhaps why he engaged in this behavior.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Don't you think right now, doctor Utter, that what we
need to focus on is finding Kada as opposed to
answering the fundamental question of what the hell is wrong
with him.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
I don't really care what's wrong with him. I want
to find this girl alive.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
I'm not exploring or splunking whether he is mentally ill.
He's driving around town and a ninety nine gold prior
to Camery with this girl in it against her will?
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Why why ask why? I want to focus on would.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
He keep her alive? Is she alive tonight? His last
victim chapt alive.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
So I've got two choices.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Either that's his mo motus operandi, method of operation, that's
what he does, which indy case Katea.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Could be alive, Or that's him with his baby.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Training mills on and he's graduated to something worse.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
That's where I'm going take a listen to this.
Speaker 6 (30:18):
She was last seen a week ago tomorrow night, shortly
after arriving for her shift at an assisted living facility
in Chestnut Hill. She was at work for a brief
period of time, and that's it. That's the last trace
of her, according to police. Her workplace three miles from
where the search is underway right now. Police wouldn't say
how long their investigation may take here.
Speaker 13 (30:39):
She came home at nine forty five pm Saturday night
on October the fourth, and then left out that five
I'm sorry, left out at nine to fifty that night
to go leave for work and the normal any other
night she came in. She says, she got a little
word ten and six am, and then she needed to
use the cause. Okay, she lef out.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Some of that from our friends at CBS Philadelphia. Guys,
I'm trying to get to the bottom of her exact
movements and what happened that night. We also learn that
a lot of investigative work was done at that arboretum
that you keep hearing about, and we're showing you video
of that. It's very densely forested area. It covers over
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fifty six acres it's vast, it's huge.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
It's been there for over one hundred years.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
This video from our friends at Philly CBS. There's a
million places that she could be within this arboretum. This
is from our friends at CBS three and ky W TV.
You know, this is what we know of what happened
that night.
Speaker 14 (31:47):
Listen, Elise are desperate lease searching for miss Pennsylvania hopeful
twenty three year old Kata Scott, a reason penns day grad.
Last scene at the terrace at chest Nut Hill. Shortly
after clogging in for an overnight shift at the nursing Homeaturday,
October fourth, Kada did not return home, her car found
still part of the facility. Kata five foot six, one
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hundred and twenty pounds long, black hair, wearing black scrubs.
Anyone with information Philadelphia PD at two point five six
eighty six tips.
Speaker 13 (32:17):
Never came back on Sunday morning at all. She supposed
She supposed it out off at six am.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
I'll regover.
Speaker 13 (32:23):
Around ten thirty am, she nod in the room the
way to we found I still calling the phone straight
the voicemail.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
She will always come home regardless, and.
Speaker 13 (32:30):
Then she would never have her phone off that lone
ever shell always find her charge lead Kiah, Something's wrong,
CBS Philly.
Speaker 10 (32:40):
Kato worked overnight shifts at a senior care facility on
the night she disappeared. She left her ship early, something
completely out of character. She didn't call her family, didn't
check in, and hasn't been heard from since.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Right now on APB out for a gold Toyota Camra.
It has a lot of much to the driver's side
front along the entire driver's side.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Look at it.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Tag number M mother s sirius x X ray zero
seven nine seven msx zero seven nine seven.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Well more do we know? Listen?
Speaker 14 (33:21):
Kata's mother says the nursing home, giving conflicting information on
how long Kata stayed. They first report Kata works her
entire shift, but later say she went on break around
ten forty and did not return. Another employee says Kata
clocked in to relieve a co worker, but walked out
with that coworker ten fifteen. There are no security cameras
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in or outside the building.
Speaker 6 (33:44):
So Philadelphia Police detectives are asking the public for any
information that may help them locate twenty three year old
Kata Scott. The young woman last seen at work on
Saturday night around nine forty five at the Area Nursing
Home in chest Out Hill, where she had clocked in
for a shift. Now here's what detectives are telling us.
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Scott clocks in and then clocks out rather quickly and
did not work a full shift.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
Scott's mother reported her missing.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
The following deck that from our friend Joe holding it
Cemius Philly.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
Okay, the mother calls.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Kata's mother calls when she doesn't hear from Kata, and
this is what she says happened.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Conflicting stories.
Speaker 13 (34:26):
So I called on Sunday one around eleven am. Whoever
answered the telephone stated that she checked with the supervisor
and Kata worked her full shift from ten pm to
six am, and she wasn't there currently. So I said, okay,
you know, and then I left her. I saw calling
the hospitals and everything around in the early afternoon because
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I was concerned. I was thinking, maybe we said car
accident something, you know, she just not not going to
come home and sleep, and even if she went somewhere else,
she's still would have came home first. So or afternoon
I was calling the hospital. So at that point the
phone contact with her father and then he said he
didn't hear from us.
Speaker 4 (35:04):
So we start calling nine one.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
One CBS Philly straight out of Sydney Sumner Crime Stories,
investigative reporter. The mom got conflicting stories and the first thing,
you know, Sydney, that must be done is to nail
down the timeline.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
What do we know?
Speaker 15 (35:19):
So she left home at nine to fifty pm to
make it to her ten PM shift. The nursing home
is not far from her home at all, just about
a mile and a half. So Tata arrives around ten
PM for her shift, she clocks in, and she's gone
by ten twenty. This according to Philadelphia PD. Now, first,
the nursing home said that Taita worked her entire shift
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and didn't leave until after six am. But we call
back and we learn, oh, well, maybe she left on
break at ten forty and that's the last time we
see her. No, maybe she walked out with an employee
at ten fifteen. So lots of conflicting information, but it's
been confirmed she was there for just about twenty minutes.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Okay, I find that.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
Very disturbing that for the first time she leaves work early.
Now I want to circle back to what we know
about Keon King and his quote similar transaction.
Speaker 16 (36:15):
When I picked up this investigation, one of the things
that our office also learned was that he did have
a previous case. It was a twenty twenty five case
for very similar conduct strangulation and kidnapping. That case had
been withdrawn by our office based on the witness failing
to appear at court.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
I pulled that file.
Speaker 16 (36:35):
And after an extensive review of it, our office made
the decision to refile those charges.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Now they're thinking of refiling those charges. That is a ploy.
Derek Smith joining me veteran at criminal defense attorney. When
you suspect somewhat of wrongdoing and this is completely constitutional,
so don't tune.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
Up on that. Smith.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
You find another offense you know they did, and you
charge them.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
Then they're stuck.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
They're behind bars and you have a chance to find cada.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
You see where I'm going with this. Explain what they're doing.
Speaker 12 (37:11):
Well, Nancy. They're trying to put heat on this guy.
I mean, why why would he talk? He has no
reason to talk. I mean I tell a lot of
my clients, you know, if you don't have any present
or another council there with you, it's probably not in
your best interest to talk because you're going to incriminate
yourself or give them information that can lead to a
possible other issue that you might have. So they're going
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to need to find something on this guy and whether
it was a previous indictment that they dismissed without.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Press Excuse me, put him up, Derek Smith, what do
you mean they're going to need to find something? It
fell on their head, please on a silver plat the
top of a Christmas tree. They don't have to go looking,
and me, Sherlock Holmes. He's already strangled one woman and
she dropped charges. Hello, they don't have to go searching.
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It's right there there. And Diet the case of the
other strangulation.
Speaker 12 (38:06):
Well, well the problem with that is why do they
drop it in the first place. I mean, if there
was no substance on the problem to bring the case
forward without the victim, that's why they had to drop
the case initially. But I understand, you know, bring in
the case back up, Get this man in this system,
get him back behind bars, put some heat on him
to question him as to where Kada is find this girl?
Speaker 4 (38:27):
Is what is happening right?
Speaker 12 (38:28):
Now is they're going to question him and what evidence
do they have besides right now the cell phone that
he has, and he does have a prior but that
prior was dropped, so he does not have a prior
charge right now. He is a prior dismissed without prejudice indictment,
meaning that the state can bring it back. And I
believe that they are now from what you've told me,
and that will help to put the heat on him
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to make him talk about what he knows about Kada.
How can we find it hurt?
Speaker 2 (38:55):
Darry Smith, I don't like anything that you just said.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
Number one.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
I guess you what looked in your defense attorney Crystal Ball,
and you could divine why the charge was dropped last time.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
It was very clearly.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Dropped because the victim was afraid to go forward. It's
not that the case didn't the state didn't have evidence.
The victim was an FTA failure to appear. That's why
the case did not go forward. All this requires is
a little drive over to her house and and ask
her what happened, get her on recording, and go and
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dit it. That's what is required right now. So you
acted like the state didn't have the evidence. The evidence
didn't want to testify.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
Okay, so we have an.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
Initial police report and we have the witness, if she's
still alive. Now let's talk about what exactly happened in
that case. Now, one thing you said I agree with.
They're going to put the heat on him, and I
mean red hot, so they can find Cada and they're
going to use this prior aggravated assault on another female victim.
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He probably looks a lot like Kada. In my experience,
a particular type of victim is picked out and they're
going to use that case and they're going to find
out where kDa is. That's my hope. But let's hear
some more about those particulars. Listen, Derek Smith.
Speaker 16 (40:22):
That case is then an individual that was known to
him a domestic aniere. And what I can say is
the allegations in that case are that he kidnapped a
woman in front of her house, threw in her car,
assaulted her, and then eventually let her out of the car.
There is some video evidence I believe that'll be plays
of preliminary hearing, But that was domestic in nature.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
And do you have a time about when that happened?
Speaker 1 (40:44):
It was this year.
Speaker 16 (40:45):
In twenty twenty five, the case was with John and
May Dear Lord in Heaven.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
This is a fingerprint crime, Fitzgibbons, help me out. Did
you hear what Ellie just said in the other case
and this was not that long ago, it was in.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
Twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
It is a female victim domestic in nature. In other words,
he knows the female. They're having some kind of a relationship. Listen,
he kidnapped her in front of her house. Here Kate
is taken in front of her workplace. We believe throws
her in a car, ringing a bell the gold Toyota carry,
assaulted her, which I assume to be a sex assault.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
Can't yell and maybe maybe he beat.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
Her and then eventually let her out of the car.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
It's a fingerprint crime, fits Gibbons.
Speaker 11 (41:39):
It sounds almost exactly like what could be happening here,
except the added echelon that maybe he only knew Kada
through social media and that this subject has gotten more
aggressive as time has got on. So you know, certainly
we have to find that. You know, police are going
to find that us victim and hopefully be able to
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move forward with those charges.
Speaker 4 (42:03):
So they stick that too.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
Our renowned psychologist joining US doctor darryln Utter. She's a
producer of Utter Nonsense, an exploratory documentary. It's on Apple
streaming and Prime Video. Doctor Jerry, if I may call
you that, I know this is a fundamental question you
ask yourself every day.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
What is wrong with him? Did he not learn from
the first time he strangled a woman.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
Assaulted her, threw her in a car, assaulted her, kidnapped
her in a place where she thought she was secure,
and then throws her out. It's the same thing all
over again. I just pray to God Kita is still alive.
Speaker 8 (42:43):
Yeah, it's not about him learning anything, because he's clearly
a disturbed individual. Actually this part of my language. But
this turned him on even more. This kind of turned
up his barometer for violence and for testing the limits
and whatever other type of de v and t's going on.
We don't know if she was sexually assaulted the other
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female or beaten, you know, to your point, but whatever happens,
it kind of wet his appetite even more so. Hence
him then you know, perhaps going and going after somebody
like Kata, who made your point, be similar in a
lot of ways. To the other female that he had
assaulted earlier this year.
Speaker 4 (43:20):
She disappeared off social media, so it's concerning.
Speaker 5 (43:22):
You know, any young people today that can't live without
having a phone in her hand, So that's that's a concern.
You left her car behind it. It's certainly something that's
not usual of somebody who's missing voluntarily. It's a troubling
missing person report. It's certainly troubling. So we don't know
if foul play was involved, but we certainly see some
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signs that this person wasn't voluntarily missing. So because of that,
we're doing everything we can to figure out who she
contacted and where she is now.
Speaker 9 (43:52):
Cata, she's a really postal cards thing like SU's marcoson
than I am and let's say kay when not times
to heart and deliver.
Speaker 13 (43:57):
I got even more worthy even hearing it was scary,
but when I talked to her and I didn't get
take bait.
Speaker 1 (44:03):
We definitely confer name.
Speaker 2 (44:05):
CBS Philly multiple reports that Kata was being harassed just
before she went missing.
Speaker 6 (44:12):
Earlier this week, police said Kata Scott had been harassed
by someone. I asked police if they've been able to
identify who that person may be. A Deputy Commissioner said
he wouldn't comment on any possible interviews. The department has conducted.
Speaker 13 (44:26):
Haras threat and so we're a little concerned because she
didn't tell us, of course, but other her friends and
you know, she didn't mention it to them. We didn't
give any names, any names or anything like that. So
we're trying to piece everything together to find out, Issachy,
who lease people.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
Are, who was harassing Kata? Was it Keon King? We
wait and pray tonight as justice unfolds. That sound from
our friends at CBS Philly and now we remember an
American hero, Deputy Sheriff Charles Riley, Parish Sheriff's Louisiana, shot
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in the line of duty, leaving behind a grieving wife
and two beautiful daughters. American hero Deputy Sheriff Charles Riley
Nancy Gray signing off goodbye friend
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
A suspect being questioned at this hour as a miss
USA Hopeful seemingly vanishes into thin air from work tonight.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Where is Cada?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
We are being alled to believe that there is a
chance Cada is still alive. I Nancy Grace, this is
Crime Stories. I want to thank you for being with us.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
In the last hours.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Ellie Law enforcement making a public statement in the disappearance
of Cada, the miss USA Hopeful and they are on
the search for a nineteen ninety nine gold Toyota Camry.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Listen, we will ask for your help and locating of
this vehicle, which you'll get a little more information. It's
a nineteen ninety nine metild gold Toyota Camery with a
Pennsylvania tag of MSA X zero seven nine seven.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
But we need to know where this car is. We
need to find this car.
Speaker 5 (01:06):
It's a gold colored Camera nineteen ninety nine. It has
heavy front end damage on the left front bumper, all right,
that's been described that way several times. We know it's
been in the mount AIRYA area. We have photos of
it in Center City, we have pictures of it in
Grace Ferry area and in southwest Philadelphia, so it's possible
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that it could be anywhere.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
There is a very strong belief within LA law enforcement
that Kita has been in that Toyota camera, that gold
colored Toyota camera. This will not be the first time
a case has been sold because of damage to a car.
Let me refer you to the case of co Ed
(01:48):
Molly Tibbets, who was kidnapped. Her case cracked because of
damage to the kidnapper slash killers car. Can we find Cada.
I'll take you back into that press in just one moment.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Right now, I'm being joined by.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Special guest Joe Holden, Chief investigative reporter and anchor, CBS
News Philadelphia. Joe, thank you for being with us. A
suspect is being questioned right now. But what the public
can do, what we can do is look for that
gold colored Toyota camray. What else did we learn in
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the press or.
Speaker 6 (02:26):
Joe, Philadelphia Police essentially asking everybody in this city to
stop and remember if they've seen that car, or if
they're seeing it right now, to give them a call.
We also learned about a suspect now being held in
the case by the name of Keon King. He is
charged with Cada's kidnapping. They have the homicide unit on
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this not because they believe that she is dead, but
they are using every experienced detective to try to locate
this sparkling, beautiful, twenty three year old and who went
missing on October fourth. One more thing. Keon King has
allegedly done this before. He was charged in January with
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the abduction and strangulation of another woman. That woman did
not appear for the first court hearing, and then in
May the District Attorney's office withdrew the charges against Kon King.
They say this man is following a pattern of behavior.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Oh my stars.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Joe Holden joining me, Chief investigative reporter and anchor, CBS
News Philadelphia, you were reminding me of a case I
prosecuted where the killer had strangled women before they lived.
They lived, He walked just like in this case, and
he ended up killing my victim. I'm not sure why
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that strangulation victim did not go forward with the case,
but I guarantee you, Joe Holden, there's more in his
than that. You don't go from kindergarten to a law
degree overnight. There's something else lurking in this guy's background.
Kean King, Okay, I want to go through how she
went missing. From what we know, Joe, she goes missing
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from where she was working. There's a lot of confusion
about what time she clocked out. This is a facility,
a care facility.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
What is it, Joe? From where Kita goes missing.
Speaker 6 (04:30):
So it's an assisted living facility in the Chestnut Hill
section of Philadelphia, beautiful part of town. We learned from
police just moments ago. She's at work for at most
twenty minutes. This is ten o'clock on a Saturday night,
October fourth. She clocks in and then she clocks out.
Police say, now she is in communication with this Keon
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King guy, and they leave together. She is not seen
after that. Nancy, there are no cameras. There are no
cameras in the parking lot. Tell us that of all
of the evidence they could have, they are missing the
basic with when she leaves this facility, where the hell
does she go?
Speaker 1 (05:09):
I don't believe it. I don't believe it.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
October fourth, Joe Holden, I do not believe that there
is not a scintilla a trace.
Speaker 6 (05:21):
She literally vanishes, she vanishes, She's not I mean, how
long we have.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
First of all, Joe Holden, let me call you on something.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
I find it very difficult to believe that it missed
at USA hopeful went willingly anywhere with Kean King.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
You said they left together.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
That may be true, but I don't know whether it
was willingly. Joe, I lived in the Chestnut Hill area
and this is not, uh the worst area of town.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
Not in the least.
Speaker 6 (05:55):
It is one of the nicer parts of Philadelphia. This woman,
we don't know how long she was interacting with this
Keon King, but let's just say for a fact, we
know her phone goes dead not long after she leaves
her place of employment. It has not been on since,
according to investigators. But guess what. What information they did
have with that phone is then paired with another phone,
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and that other phone they then used to go all
over and track around her whereabouts. And then last week
there was this massive search at an arboretum three miles
from where she worked, and we know that they turned
that place upside down. Today we found out they really
didn't find anything useful in their investigation, but they've tracked
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phones in and out of that property a few time since.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
Police announced just last Wednesday that.
Speaker 6 (06:47):
They were searching for this twenty three year old woman
and then boom, there are phones coming and going from
this property. They're tracking technology has police right on their tails.
And then today they make this arrest the charge of kidnapping,
and we got to wonder they wouldn't say, but what
statements or comments is mister King providing to investigators to
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possibly lead them to Kata Scott.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
Where is she?
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Joe Holden is with US Chief Investigative Reporter anchor CBS
News Philadelphia. Joe, what I'm saying is when I was
living in the Philly.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Area, and this is way back after my.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Fiance was murdered, that was a safe, a very safe
area where that assistant living facility is. And what I'm
getting at is along that route there has to be
ring doorbell cam, there's got to be a redlight ham
something to pick up on where Cada was taken.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
And that gold Camri, that Toyota.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Camray and that is why we got to find that
camera because it's going to give up evidence. See that
damage on the front driver side, that may be a
distinguishing mark between that and every other gold Camri. M
mother s Serious x X ray zero seven nine seven
m mother s serious x X ray zero seven nine
(08:09):
seven to all our trucker friends listening now, please help
us find this Toyota Camry A ninety nine gold in color. Again,
Joe Holden, I guarantee you somebody has a doorbell cam Now,
I want to go back to what you were saying
about the phones traveling together. I've seen that in a
lot of investigations. Specifically, just an example, I'll throw out
(08:33):
Alex Murdock. He was traveling along with his wife Maggie's
phone until it was thrown out the window. All right,
so that tells me she was in the car for
that period of time, but very quickly, according to the parents,
her phone started going straight to voicemail. What can you
tell me about the route the two phones traveled together?
Speaker 6 (08:52):
So the route we know from leaving the assistant living facility.
Police are guarded in providing specific fix on that we
know that it is with then another phone, but they're
not saying much about where it goes from there.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Hmm Okay.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
The fact that they're not saying anything, Joe Holden tells
me it's critical. They're probably looking all around this route
to determine if there is a vacant lot if there
is somewhere where she could be being held.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Did you get the.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Oppressure from law enforcement, Joe that they believe there's a
chance Kada is still alive.
Speaker 6 (09:29):
That's how they're operating that we need to find Kata Scott.
We need to find miss Scott. We heard from the
District Attorney's office. They have so much manpower looking for
this beautiful, young, vibrant lady who competed in beauty pageants.
Her father told me last week she was sort of
new to it, but loved it, and they supported her.
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They wanted her to go far, and her dreams were
coming to reality. And now all of this pressure to
find her, and they have a man that they believe
to be central to her disappearance sitting in the homicide
unit here in Center City Philadelphia, who has to answer
for what happened after they met up on Saturday, October.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Fourth, Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
I'm still not buying into the phraseology of meeting up.
I'm not down with that because this is a guy
that strangled another woman.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
What is she doing with him?
Speaker 2 (10:36):
I also know that she said she had been being
harassed in the days leading up to her disappearance, and
there's absolute evidence that that is true. But I want
you and I are talking about Kada because we've been
investigating her. We've been researching her, We've been watching her,
speaking to her parents, looking at.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Her all one.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
I want everybody else to meet her. Joe, don't move,
Joe Holden. Everyone, here's Kada.
Speaker 7 (11:00):
Hi, everybody.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
My name is Kita, and.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
I don't know what's up of content.
Speaker 8 (11:08):
I want to do it.
Speaker 9 (11:09):
I think I want to do.
Speaker 7 (11:12):
Lifestyle fish and girl talks, but this is the same
thing for today's is pretty pretty pretty cendrius and also
I'm period.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
With these pretty.
Speaker 7 (11:27):
Perfect glass space pretty much.
Speaker 9 (11:29):
Just going outside to look pretty, like, go to cafe
and just be productive. I don't want to make my
son knows and stuff for YouTube because I get backing
to YouTube. I want to make my summer plan and
my education plan and stuff like that. So yeah, I'm
gonna tak out when we want to see what the
day brings us.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
But that is from at one dash Cada on YouTube
Joe Holden. I swear I think I'm going to be sick.
She is so beautiful and vibrant, and she reminds me
so much of my daughter, you know, planning her outfits,
in her makeup, in school. This girl has just turned
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twenty three. She's a little baby Joe.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
Charming, beautiful, lovely.
Speaker 6 (12:17):
She had plans, she had education plans, she had fashion plans.
And I know you're not buying that this whole meetup,
and maybe police are being guarded about the interactions, but
they're apparently now uncovering that she must have fallen into
the arms of a monster, of a predator, of a
man who has been charged once before with this type
of behavior. And now the question is is Kata Scott
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still alive? They're asking the entire city to look around,
essentially for that Toyota Camery. Police said it had been
in Center City, Grace Ferry, all of these different neighborhoods
they're not even close to together. This car has been
all over the city since last week, and now they're
asking the public like find the car. We believe Kata
(13:02):
Scott was in it, as well as the suspect in
her abduction, mister Kean King.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Is he keeping her alive somewhere? Where is Kada?
Speaker 1 (13:13):
You know, Joe?
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Him driving all around does not give me a good feeling.
About why was he driving that car all over the
city and beyond.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Joe, It's not like he was going to.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
The grocery store in bat Or to work in back
like most of us do. Why is he just rambling
around after he's taken Kata.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
I don't like it, Joe.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
What more can you tell us about your thinking on this,
Joe Holden.
Speaker 6 (13:40):
My thinking is that last week when police were crawling
through this arboretum in East Germantown section of Philadelphia, they
had something good to go on there.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
I believe they really did.
Speaker 6 (13:52):
And then the car is all over the city from
one point to the next, nothing geographically makes sense. He's
moving around, he's doing something, and they had a tip
of some magnitude that brought them to that arboretum. Yet
they say they really didn't they didn't find much, But
I think there was something there. I know from my
(14:13):
sources they recovered a lot of stuff. They were trying
to process what it could mean for her disappearance. I
think that that arboretum is going to play a major
role as this investigation develops.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Joe, you keep saying arboretum.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Okay, explain to everyone what that is? And did law
enforcement call in cadaver dogs.
Speaker 6 (14:39):
The dogs were there, the cadets were there just to
walk a grid search linking almost arm in arm. It's
a fifty five acre property in East Germantown, densely wooded.
They went through this property with a fine tooth comb
just on Friday.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
They gathered a mattress.
Speaker 6 (14:59):
They got there's some other evidence that they weren't willing
really to disclose.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
But what they did pick up now.
Speaker 6 (15:05):
Today they're saying was really not really successful in terms
of the investigation moving forward.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
But thank god, and they got Joe that she's not
buried out in an arboretum somewhere.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Look at it. This is dance as a Jungle. Thank god.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
The few things they found we think are not connected
to Kita.
Speaker 6 (15:25):
Right, correct, Correct, at least at this point now, because
they're saying the arboretum proved to be rather unsuccessful in
the big picture.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
This reference at CBS Philadelphia.
Speaker 7 (15:36):
Hi, everybody, my name is Kita.
Speaker 10 (15:40):
And.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
I don't know what's up at concent. I want to
exude it.
Speaker 9 (15:45):
I think I want to do.
Speaker 7 (15:48):
Lifestyle fish a girl looks, but this is since I'm
being as is pretty pretty pretty cendried, and also I'm
curious is pretty.
Speaker 9 (16:03):
Perfect, glorious, pretty much just going outside to look pretty,
might go to cafe and just be productive. I don't
want to make my son knows and stuff for YouTube
because I gamba continue to I want to make my
summary plane and my education plan and stuff like this.
So yeah, I'm going to see I would want to
see what the day brings us.
Speaker 10 (16:24):
Kata was building a life. She loved running businesses, volunteering,
and sharing her journey online. But then the strange calls started.
She grew more cautious of what she posted online and
told her family she was being harassed.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
As we go to air, we are trying to absorb
everything we've just learned.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
At an LA law.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Enforcement press conference regarding Cada, they seem to indicate they
believe Kada is still alive. The miss USA hopeful vanishes
from work. We worked at a ritzy assisted living center.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
There.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
She is absolutely gorgeous. Let's dip into that pressor and
see what we learn.
Speaker 5 (17:10):
Our evidence is pretty clear that she was in communication
with an individual.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
That individual appears to meet.
Speaker 5 (17:19):
Her very shortly after she leaves her place of work,
and very shortly after that, she disappears.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
Off of the footprint.
Speaker 5 (17:30):
We have a lot of digital evidence, video and other
which provides us with this individual but a name m
keeon k e o n King ki Ng. We believe
this individual and through our evidence we were able to
charge this individual.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Chion King recently tried to strangle a woman. She lived
then dropped the prosecution. She was at FTA failure to appear.
Why joining me an all star panel? But I want
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to go straight out to Brian Fitzgibbons. You're joining us
Director Operations USPA Nationwide Security, leading a team of expert
investigators around the world specializing in locating missing people. You
can find him at uspasecurity dot com. Brian, I don't
like that he is driving around all around town because
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when I've seen that happens, it's off a normal route.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Okay, it's not like you going to work.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Are you going to your your site where you're working
in your case, going to the grocery store, going to church,
going to senegague, going to the school to pick up
your children.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
It's none of that.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
This is just driving aimlessly around Philadelphia and the suburban area.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Look, I lived in Philly.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
There are a lot of places you could hide a
living person, abandoned buildings, all sorts of places or worse,
what do.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
They need to be doing right now, mis Gibbons.
Speaker 11 (19:14):
As you saw in that Philly police press or Nancy,
everything is focused on this ninety nine gold colored Toyota.
They are tracking that vehicle all over the city. Now,
as you brought up, this is outside of a normal
behavior pattern. This vehicle is seen in the last ten
days in the north of the city, in the south
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east west, inside of these densely wooded areas that are around.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
These population centers.
Speaker 11 (19:42):
So right now, the public's role is to help find
that vehicle. What police are doing is everything at their disposal,
license plate readers, ring cameras, security cameras, any footage of
that vehicle, along.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
With Keon King's cell phone. That's what they're tracking right now.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Guys were showing you the car again. Let's take a
look at it. This is a ninety nine golden color
Toyota camery. Look at the damage on the front left.
Look at that and along the driver's side of the car.
Looks like he sideswiped somebody at some point. That may
be the key to finding Cada. I'm also curious about
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the moment they took him into custody for questioning where
was he? Where had he been? Can he be tracked
by his cell phone?
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Crime stories with Nancy Grace.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
The reality is Derek Smith is joining me a criminal
defense attorney website dwsmith Legal dot com. Very often we
can get in a jousting competition with local carriers like
at Verizon T Mobile, and you have to give them
a subpoena and that tykeson Fraira to get the records.
(21:06):
When there is an emergency, an emergency request by police
and a life hangs in a bounds, you can get
those records a lot more quickly. Agree disagree Derek Smith Absolutely, Nancy.
Speaker 12 (21:20):
I mean in cases of emergencies, there's laws, there's statutes
in place that enable law enforcement to speed up the
process and get necessary documents or information from third parties
in this situation, such as cell phone carriers, in order
to triangulate, try to figure out where these people may
be if they're using their phone. Obviously in this case
we saw that the phone was turned off. There's other
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things that they can do in order to speed things
up for st to an investigation.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Well, hold on, Derek Smith, don't go to com four
on me.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Listen, you throw out the phrase triangulate, Explain to everyone
what that means. And remember, we don't have to look
for just her phone that was apparently cut off. We
can follow his phone as they were traveling together. If
he cut her phone off, that doesn't mean her phone
wasn't still with him. Okay, explain triangulation quickly, yes, Nancy.
Speaker 12 (22:11):
So these cell phone providers, can you know, with the
FBI local law enforcement, they can track a person's whereabouts
pursuance if they have their phone on them. They use
the simcards and they can follow their progress either where
they're driving in a car, where they're walking on the street.
They can use the pains off local cell phone towers
to get kind of an idea of where they are
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geographically and follow their path to see where they're going,
where they may have just started evidence. If they stop
in a certain area for a period of time, they
can say, all right, the cell phone pain stopped for
about ten to fifteen minutes, Why was this person in
this area for this period of time. Let's go check
that area out, and so on and so forth, And
that stuff is very important in an investigation, especially in
(22:53):
the missing persons to find out where they may be
and where.
Speaker 5 (22:57):
They may have gone.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Joining me as you met at earlier Bryan Fitzgibbons, USPA
Nationwide Security, who expertise is finding missing people. I find
it disturbing that she had the overnight shift right and
then suddenly she just clocked in and then suddenly leaves,
(23:20):
and from what we're being told, she had never done
anything like that before.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
I find that to be very primitive. In other words,
it proves something to me.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Like, if you got up from that seat and that
studio right now tonight and walked out, I would know
something was horribly wrong because you've never done that before.
I would assume there was an emergency similar to what
Kita did that night at the assisted living where she worked.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
She had never done that before, well out of the
course of her normal behavior.
Speaker 11 (23:51):
Nancy, and we also see in the videos that she's
sharing that this is incredibly disciplined young woman with goals.
She's got a prayer wall hung up on an on
her bedroom wall, she's talking about her education plan, she's
got fitness goals that she's pursuing. This is not somebody
that shows up to work and just bounces twenty minutes later.
(24:13):
So taking that in conjunction with the fact that she
was receiving these harassing texts and phone calls, this is
very concerning and out of the ordinary.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Now this is a warming but looks can be desaving.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Listen.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
Making it very clear that the case was shifted to
homicide because we have the most experienced investigators in our
homicide unit. They have the most experience dealing with all
types of investigations. They also have the most resources available
to them, and so we have the hopes that we
are still treating this as if Miscott is still alive,
and that's why we want the public health and trying
(24:52):
to locate every single piece of this. But I just
wanted to make that clear because I know there's been
some reports once it shifted over to homicide, folks understanding
the why, and so that's the reason behind that.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Very often we see a case go from kidnapping to
homicide because homicide has more resources. That's very very common
way in Fitzgibbons.
Speaker 11 (25:16):
You're going to have more detectives in that work homicide
number one. Number two, the resources that they.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
Have to fire out search warrants.
Speaker 11 (25:26):
The technological resources and savvy and know how it's going
to go way up. So bringing them in makes a
lot of sense in something that we've seen across the
country number of.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Times, guys, the case has been it's been declared now
a joint effort between kidnapping and homicide. Homicide has a
lot lot more resources, detectives, power.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Expertise, you name it.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
And that's why that's the cream of the crop that
goes to homicide. I want to go to doctor Jerlyn
Utter joining as clinical psychologist specializing in psychological evaluations and
risk assessments for people involved in the criminal justice system.
She's the author of main lining Philly. Doctor, thank you
(26:13):
for being with us. I would like to get in
your mind just a moment to discuss the psychopathy behind
someone that kidnaps a young woman and then keeps her hostage.
Speaker 8 (26:25):
Yeah, so when you talk about somebody like Kean King,
you want to keep a couple of things in mind.
The first thing is we know that he has engaged
in kidnapping and strangulation in the past, and unfortunately, what
happened with that case is that he was not rimanded,
he was not charged. And when you think like that,
when you're somebody that has gotten a way with hurting somebody,
(26:49):
with kidnapping a woman, and there's been absolutely no type
of repercussion. What happens is we tend to see an
escalation of violent behavior. There's complete disregard, and there's also
a sense of entire when you look at psychopathy, that
he keeps getting away with it. I'm smarter, They didn't
catch me this time. I'm bold and boldened to continue
to escalate behavior and do what he wants to do,
(27:12):
essentially in order to you know, like feed his own needs,
wants and desires. Because there hasn't been an opportunity where
he has been checked by the law or checked by anyone,
his behavior from a risk assessment perspective, will continue to escalate.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
You know what I find interesting about what you just
said so many things, jerlen Utter.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
I want to.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Look at the fact that when he strangled the last victim,
it was apparently to subdue her.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
She lived.
Speaker 8 (27:44):
Yeah, I mean again, when you talk about something you know,
like strangulation, and him trying to do that in an
effort to quiet her or to keep her. The intention
may not have initially been to kill her, but to
quiet her. However, there's a lot of other things that
are at play. You know, this is somebody that's putting
their hands around someone's neck and they're strangling. Then he
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doesn't know, he's not a medical professional, he doesn't know
how far he can go before he can actually kill
her or really, you know, hurt someone. The other thing
that we really want to think about, and I understand
that it's really easy to be angry, rightfully, so at
somebody with such a violent history and then has such
violent behavior, is is there another severe mental illness at
(28:27):
play here? Yes, we're talking about somebody that can be
a sociopath that has no respect for women. You know
that he perhaps wanted to assault her and hurt her. However,
is there something else that's happened on her? We don't
know that.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
You are not in any way suggesting just because someone
is a violent criminal that they have a mental illness.
I hope that's not where you're going, because we have
no indication at all Kean King has any type of
mental illness, just that he's mad as hell.
Speaker 8 (28:55):
Yeah, well you can be that. You can be a
total scumbag, you can be mean as hell, you can
be in evil person. My suggestion is that both of
these things can happen at the same time. One of
them can happen, and you can just be pure evil.
So it would be very interesting as homicide continues to
question this individual to see if there's also anything else
at play, not as an excuse, but to gain more
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of an understanding of perhaps why he engaged in this behavior.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Don't you think right now, doctor Utter, that what we
need to focus on is finding Kada as opposed to
answering the fundamental question of what the hell is wrong
with him.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
I don't really care what's wrong with him. I want
to find this girl alive.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
I'm not exploring or splunking whether he is mentally ill.
He's driving around town and a ninety nine gold prior
to Camery with this girl in it against her will?
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Why why ask why? I want to focus on would.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
He keep her alive? Is she alive tonight? His last
victim chapt alive.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
So I've got two choices.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Either that's his mo motus operandi, method of operation, that's
what he does, which indy case Katea.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Could be alive, Or that's him with his baby.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Training mills on and he's graduated to something worse.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
That's where I'm going take a listen to this.
Speaker 6 (30:18):
She was last seen a week ago tomorrow night, shortly
after arriving for her shift at an assisted living facility
in Chestnut Hill. She was at work for a brief
period of time, and that's it. That's the last trace
of her, according to police. Her workplace three miles from
where the search is underway right now. Police wouldn't say
how long their investigation may take here.
Speaker 13 (30:39):
She came home at nine forty five pm Saturday night
on October the fourth, and then left out that five
I'm sorry, left out at nine to fifty that night
to go leave for work and the normal any other
night she came in. She says, she got a little
word ten and six am, and then she needed to
use the cause. Okay, she lef out.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Some of that from our friends at CBS Philadelphia. Guys,
I'm trying to get to the bottom of her exact
movements and what happened that night. We also learn that
a lot of investigative work was done at that arboretum
that you keep hearing about, and we're showing you video
of that. It's very densely forested area. It covers over
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fifty six acres it's vast, it's huge.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
It's been there for over one hundred years.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
This video from our friends at Philly CBS. There's a
million places that she could be within this arboretum. This
is from our friends at CBS three and ky W TV.
You know, this is what we know of what happened
that night.
Speaker 14 (31:47):
Listen, Elise are desperate lease searching for miss Pennsylvania hopeful
twenty three year old Kata Scott, a reason penns day grad.
Last scene at the terrace at chest Nut Hill. Shortly
after clogging in for an overnight shift at the nursing Homeaturday,
October fourth, Kada did not return home, her car found
still part of the facility. Kata five foot six, one
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hundred and twenty pounds long, black hair, wearing black scrubs.
Anyone with information Philadelphia PD at two point five six
eighty six tips.
Speaker 13 (32:17):
Never came back on Sunday morning at all. She supposed
She supposed it out off at six am.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
I'll regover.
Speaker 13 (32:23):
Around ten thirty am, she nod in the room the
way to we found I still calling the phone straight
the voicemail.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
She will always come home regardless, and.
Speaker 13 (32:30):
Then she would never have her phone off that lone
ever shell always find her charge lead Kiah, Something's wrong,
CBS Philly.
Speaker 10 (32:40):
Kato worked overnight shifts at a senior care facility on
the night she disappeared. She left her ship early, something
completely out of character. She didn't call her family, didn't
check in, and hasn't been heard from since.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Right now on APB out for a gold Toyota Camra.
It has a lot of much to the driver's side
front along the entire driver's side.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Look at it.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Tag number M mother s sirius x X ray zero
seven nine seven msx zero seven nine seven.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Well more do we know? Listen?
Speaker 14 (33:21):
Kata's mother says the nursing home, giving conflicting information on
how long Kata stayed. They first report Kata works her
entire shift, but later say she went on break around
ten forty and did not return. Another employee says Kata
clocked in to relieve a co worker, but walked out
with that coworker ten fifteen. There are no security cameras
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in or outside the building.
Speaker 6 (33:44):
So Philadelphia Police detectives are asking the public for any
information that may help them locate twenty three year old
Kata Scott. The young woman last seen at work on
Saturday night around nine forty five at the Area Nursing
Home in chest Out Hill, where she had clocked in
for a shift. Now here's what detectives are telling us.
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Scott clocks in and then clocks out rather quickly and
did not work a full shift.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
Scott's mother reported her missing.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
The following deck that from our friend Joe holding it
Cemius Philly.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
Okay, the mother calls.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Kata's mother calls when she doesn't hear from Kata, and
this is what she says happened.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Conflicting stories.
Speaker 13 (34:26):
So I called on Sunday one around eleven am. Whoever
answered the telephone stated that she checked with the supervisor
and Kata worked her full shift from ten pm to
six am, and she wasn't there currently. So I said, okay,
you know, and then I left her. I saw calling
the hospitals and everything around in the early afternoon because
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I was concerned. I was thinking, maybe we said car
accident something, you know, she just not not going to
come home and sleep, and even if she went somewhere else,
she's still would have came home first. So or afternoon
I was calling the hospital. So at that point the
phone contact with her father and then he said he
didn't hear from us.
Speaker 4 (35:04):
So we start calling nine one.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
One CBS Philly straight out of Sydney Sumner Crime Stories,
investigative reporter. The mom got conflicting stories and the first thing,
you know, Sydney, that must be done is to nail
down the timeline.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
What do we know?
Speaker 15 (35:19):
So she left home at nine to fifty pm to
make it to her ten PM shift. The nursing home
is not far from her home at all, just about
a mile and a half. So Tata arrives around ten
PM for her shift, she clocks in, and she's gone
by ten twenty. This according to Philadelphia PD. Now, first,
the nursing home said that Taita worked her entire shift
(35:42):
and didn't leave until after six am. But we call
back and we learn, oh, well, maybe she left on
break at ten forty and that's the last time we
see her. No, maybe she walked out with an employee
at ten fifteen. So lots of conflicting information, but it's
been confirmed she was there for just about twenty minutes.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Okay, I find that.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
Very disturbing that for the first time she leaves work early.
Now I want to circle back to what we know
about Keon King and his quote similar transaction.
Speaker 16 (36:15):
When I picked up this investigation, one of the things
that our office also learned was that he did have
a previous case. It was a twenty twenty five case
for very similar conduct strangulation and kidnapping. That case had
been withdrawn by our office based on the witness failing
to appear at court.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
I pulled that file.
Speaker 16 (36:35):
And after an extensive review of it, our office made
the decision to refile those charges.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Now they're thinking of refiling those charges. That is a ploy.
Derek Smith joining me veteran at criminal defense attorney. When
you suspect somewhat of wrongdoing and this is completely constitutional,
so don't tune.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
Up on that. Smith.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
You find another offense you know they did, and you
charge them.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
Then they're stuck.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
They're behind bars and you have a chance to find cada.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
You see where I'm going with this. Explain what they're doing.
Speaker 12 (37:11):
Well, Nancy. They're trying to put heat on this guy.
I mean, why why would he talk? He has no
reason to talk. I mean I tell a lot of
my clients, you know, if you don't have any present
or another council there with you, it's probably not in
your best interest to talk because you're going to incriminate
yourself or give them information that can lead to a
possible other issue that you might have. So they're going
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to need to find something on this guy and whether
it was a previous indictment that they dismissed without.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Press Excuse me, put him up, Derek Smith, what do
you mean they're going to need to find something? It
fell on their head, please on a silver plat the
top of a Christmas tree. They don't have to go looking,
and me, Sherlock Holmes. He's already strangled one woman and
she dropped charges. Hello, they don't have to go searching.
(37:57):
It's right there there. And Diet the case of the
other strangulation.
Speaker 12 (38:06):
Well, well the problem with that is why do they
drop it in the first place. I mean, if there
was no substance on the problem to bring the case
forward without the victim, that's why they had to drop
the case initially. But I understand, you know, bring in
the case back up, Get this man in this system,
get him back behind bars, put some heat on him
to question him as to where Kada is find this girl?
Speaker 4 (38:27):
Is what is happening right?
Speaker 12 (38:28):
Now is they're going to question him and what evidence
do they have besides right now the cell phone that
he has, and he does have a prior but that
prior was dropped, so he does not have a prior
charge right now. He is a prior dismissed without prejudice indictment,
meaning that the state can bring it back. And I
believe that they are now from what you've told me,
and that will help to put the heat on him
(38:51):
to make him talk about what he knows about Kada.
How can we find it hurt?
Speaker 2 (38:55):
Darry Smith, I don't like anything that you just said.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
Number one.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
I guess you what looked in your defense attorney Crystal Ball,
and you could divine why the charge was dropped last time.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
It was very clearly.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Dropped because the victim was afraid to go forward. It's
not that the case didn't the state didn't have evidence.
The victim was an FTA failure to appear. That's why
the case did not go forward. All this requires is
a little drive over to her house and and ask
her what happened, get her on recording, and go and
(39:32):
dit it. That's what is required right now. So you
acted like the state didn't have the evidence. The evidence
didn't want to testify.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
Okay, so we have an.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
Initial police report and we have the witness, if she's
still alive. Now let's talk about what exactly happened in
that case. Now, one thing you said I agree with.
They're going to put the heat on him, and I
mean red hot, so they can find Cada and they're
going to use this prior aggravated assault on another female victim.
(40:05):
He probably looks a lot like Kada. In my experience,
a particular type of victim is picked out and they're
going to use that case and they're going to find
out where kDa is. That's my hope. But let's hear
some more about those particulars. Listen, Derek Smith.
Speaker 16 (40:22):
That case is then an individual that was known to
him a domestic aniere. And what I can say is
the allegations in that case are that he kidnapped a
woman in front of her house, threw in her car,
assaulted her, and then eventually let her out of the car.
There is some video evidence I believe that'll be plays
of preliminary hearing, But that was domestic in nature.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
And do you have a time about when that happened?
Speaker 1 (40:44):
It was this year.
Speaker 16 (40:45):
In twenty twenty five, the case was with John and
May Dear Lord in Heaven.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
This is a fingerprint crime, Fitzgibbons, help me out. Did
you hear what Ellie just said in the other case
and this was not that long ago, it was in.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
Twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
It is a female victim domestic in nature. In other words,
he knows the female. They're having some kind of a relationship. Listen,
he kidnapped her in front of her house. Here Kate
is taken in front of her workplace. We believe throws
her in a car, ringing a bell the gold Toyota carry,
assaulted her, which I assume to be a sex assault.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
Can't yell and maybe maybe he beat.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
Her and then eventually let her out of the car.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
It's a fingerprint crime, fits Gibbons.
Speaker 11 (41:39):
It sounds almost exactly like what could be happening here,
except the added echelon that maybe he only knew Kada
through social media and that this subject has gotten more
aggressive as time has got on. So you know, certainly
we have to find that. You know, police are going
to find that us victim and hopefully be able to
(42:02):
move forward with those charges.
Speaker 4 (42:03):
So they stick that too.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
Our renowned psychologist joining US doctor darryln Utter. She's a
producer of Utter Nonsense, an exploratory documentary. It's on Apple
streaming and Prime Video. Doctor Jerry, if I may call
you that, I know this is a fundamental question you
ask yourself every day.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
What is wrong with him? Did he not learn from
the first time he strangled a woman.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
Assaulted her, threw her in a car, assaulted her, kidnapped
her in a place where she thought she was secure,
and then throws her out. It's the same thing all
over again. I just pray to God Kita is still alive.
Speaker 8 (42:43):
Yeah, it's not about him learning anything, because he's clearly
a disturbed individual. Actually this part of my language. But
this turned him on even more. This kind of turned
up his barometer for violence and for testing the limits
and whatever other type of de v and t's going on.
We don't know if she was sexually assaulted the other
(43:03):
female or beaten, you know, to your point, but whatever happens,
it kind of wet his appetite even more so. Hence
him then you know, perhaps going and going after somebody
like Kata, who made your point, be similar in a
lot of ways. To the other female that he had
assaulted earlier this year.
Speaker 4 (43:20):
She disappeared off social media, so it's concerning.
Speaker 5 (43:22):
You know, any young people today that can't live without
having a phone in her hand, So that's that's a concern.
You left her car behind it. It's certainly something that's
not usual of somebody who's missing voluntarily. It's a troubling
missing person report. It's certainly troubling. So we don't know
if foul play was involved, but we certainly see some
(43:43):
signs that this person wasn't voluntarily missing. So because of that,
we're doing everything we can to figure out who she
contacted and where she is now.
Speaker 9 (43:52):
Cata, she's a really postal cards thing like SU's marcoson
than I am and let's say kay when not times
to heart and deliver.
Speaker 13 (43:57):
I got even more worthy even hearing it was scary,
but when I talked to her and I didn't get
take bait.
Speaker 1 (44:03):
We definitely confer name.
Speaker 2 (44:05):
CBS Philly multiple reports that Kata was being harassed just
before she went missing.
Speaker 6 (44:12):
Earlier this week, police said Kata Scott had been harassed
by someone. I asked police if they've been able to
identify who that person may be. A Deputy Commissioner said
he wouldn't comment on any possible interviews. The department has conducted.
Speaker 13 (44:26):
Haras threat and so we're a little concerned because she
didn't tell us, of course, but other her friends and
you know, she didn't mention it to them. We didn't
give any names, any names or anything like that. So
we're trying to piece everything together to find out, Issachy,
who lease people.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
Are, who was harassing Kata? Was it Keon King? We
wait and pray tonight as justice unfolds. That sound from
our friends at CBS Philly and now we remember an
American hero, Deputy Sheriff Charles Riley, Parish Sheriff's Louisiana, shot
(45:03):
in the line of duty, leaving behind a grieving wife
and two beautiful daughters. American hero Deputy Sheriff Charles Riley
Nancy Gray signing off goodbye friend
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