December 19, 2025 • 44 mins
John Paul Miller, a South Carolina pastor, whose wife, Mica Miller, died by suicide last year after she filed for divorce, has been federally indicted after being accused of posting her nude photo online and stalking her before her death.
Miller, 46, is charged with felony charges of cyberstalking and making false statements to federal investigators, according to authorities.
John-Paul Miller and Mica Miller were married in 2017, and at the age of just 23, Mica Miller becomes stepmom to John-Paul Miller's five children. JP Miller is considerably older than his beautiful young wife, but they move forward like a match made in heaven.
Outside the home, everybody seems happy, but inside the home, not so much. Mica Miller decides she has had enough of Pastor John-Paul Miller and files for divorce. Four months after filing for divorce, Mica Miller pulls back the divorce papers, only to file new divorce papers weeks later.
After filing for divorce the second time, her tires are slashed twice in a week, and a mechanic finds a tracking device in Mica's car. Allegedly, Mica feels like she is being stalked by Miller and fears for her life.
One morning during a church service, Pastor John-Paul Miller announces he got a call last night, and his wife has died by suicide.
Mica's family and friends demand justice for Mica and ask law enforcement to investigate. Protest follows outside Solid Rock Church demanding justice for Mica.
Joining Nancy Grace:
- Chris Melcher - Celebrity Lawyer and Partner at Walzer Melcher & Yoda (deep experience in complex family law litigation)
- Dr. Bethany Marshall- Psychoanalyst, Author: "Deal Breaker," and featured in hit show "Paris in Love" on Peacock; Instagram & TikTok: drbethanymarshall, X: @DrBethanyLive
- Dr. Kendall Crowns - Chief Medical Examiner Tarrant County (Ft Worth), Host of Podcast "Mayhem in the Morgue," and Lecturer: Burnett School of Medicine at TCU (Texas Christian University)
- Alexis Tereszcuk - Investigative Reporter, 'Crime Stories'
- Dave Mack - Investigative Reporter, 'Crime Stories'
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Crime Stories with Nancy.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Grace busted the Feds finally and died a Myrtle Beach
pastor preacher John Paul Miller after the swamp death shooting
of his wife, Micah Miller.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. I want to
thank you for being with us.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
That is put my family to know where to find me.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Micah now did by gunshot wound? Her body found submerged
in a body of water.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
I even tried to raise her from the dead.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Did he just say he tried to raise her from
the dead and he laid by her body four times?
Speaker 5 (00:39):
Was she convinced by someone to kill herself? A possibility?
Speaker 2 (00:43):
In the last hours, the Feds do what state authorities
would not do. They bring down the hammer on the
so called pastor John Paul Miller, after the shocking death
of his young wife who he allegedly harassed straight into
a gun shop. But first, before I get into those charges,
(01:06):
thank you Feds. Let's take a listen to the now
federal descendant, John Paul Miller at his finest.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
I got this late next to her body, and it's
been down with her body about four times this week,
and each time it still didn't hit me. I thought
she was going to wake up. You know. I even
tried to raise her from the dead one time this week.
And she was so creative. Everything she did was so creative.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
What's the next picture?
Speaker 6 (01:40):
You know?
Speaker 4 (01:41):
I've been, I've been. I've been speaking for many years.
And for the first time, I don't really know exactly
you know, how to open or how to cooks or
aneath that.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
I'm gonna have to play that again. That is from
Solid Rock Ministries. Does he actually think I'm buying this?
There were no tears and definitely no snot. I need
to see that one more time.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
I can't wait to see her again one day. Oh,
I'm good, I'm good, And that's nothing. She was so creative.
She it was just always just coming out of her.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
So many things just jump out at me. Again.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
That is from Solid Rock Ministries for those of you
just joining us. The pastor John Paul Miller finally facing
federal charges in connection to his wife Micah Miller.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
First of all, he says.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Oh, after all these years you know speaking, He suggests
that he is short of words, he doesn't know what
to say, but yet he keeps talking.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
He says he doesn't like pain. We'll get ready for
a boatload of it.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
John Paul Miller joining me and All Star Panel to
make sense of what we are learning. Straight out to
Alexis Tereschuk, Crime Stories Investigative Reporter Alexis, the Feds finally
bring down the hammer. This after hundreds and hundreds of
online protests appealing to l E Law enforcement to bring charges.
(03:22):
What are the charges, Alexis Tereschuk.
Speaker 7 (03:26):
He has been charged with cyberstalking, and I'm going to
read exactly the indictment that he John Paul Miller sent
or caused to be sent unwanted and harassing electronic communications
to her, used or threatened to use nude videos and
photographs of her, hosted a nude photo of her online
without her consent, placed or caused to be placed a
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tracking device on her vehicle with the intent to harass
and surveil her. And he intervieered with her finances, banking,
and interfered with her daily activities.
Speaker 8 (03:57):
He also made a false statement to law enforcement.
Speaker 7 (04:00):
They said he did knowingly and willfully make a material
of false, fictitious, and fraudulent.
Speaker 8 (04:05):
Statement in representation.
Speaker 7 (04:07):
In this case, he said that they had been calling
each other back and forth. The FED said, nope, you
called her more than fifty times in one day, harassing her.
He said, I never damaged her car tires. They said,
you actually bought a tool to deflate car tires, and
this fact you cause these tires on.
Speaker 8 (04:28):
Her car to be deflated.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
That's a lot from the fads, guys.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Finally, what many people, what many justice champions have longed
for since Micah's body was found at the Lumber River
State Park, the FEDS bring down the hammer and do
what state authorities refused to do.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Listen.
Speaker 9 (04:50):
Law enforcement is notified by nine to one one dispatch
that Micah Miller is in Lumber River State Park and
they begin searching. Michah Miller's phone is pinged at three
twenty ps and law enforcement has a drone dispatch to
the area to help search. At three forty two, Micah's
car is located in the parking lot of the Lumber
River State Park. Inside the car, investigators find a nine
(05:11):
millimeters six hour hard gun case and receipt showing the
location of where the weapon was purchased.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Many debute still insists Micah Miller was murdered, but here
is hard.
Speaker 10 (05:22):
Evidence investigators at Lumber River State Park are notified by
a kayaker at four twenty three pm that a body
is in the river and a black bag with ida
money found on the bank of the river is turned
over to law enforcement as well. Officers recovered two spend
casings and one live round on the bank of the
river and there's no sign of a physical struggle. A
regional pathologist is called to the scene for assistance. Micah
(05:45):
Miller is found submerged in the river beside tree limbs,
about one hundred feet from the casings.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
There is a concerning aspect to the discovery of a
nine millimeter sig sour.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Dodger Kendel Crowns joining us.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
He is a renowned chief medical examiner out of Terrent County,
That's Fort Worth. Never a lack of business in the
morgue there. He is the esteem lecturer at Burnett School
of Medicine at TCU, and he is a star of
a hit Knee podcast, Mayhem in the Morgue.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Doctor Kendall Crowns, thank you for being with us.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
The nine millimeter is removed from the river using a magnet.
The serial number on the gun matches the number on
the gun case in Micah's car. Is that feasible that
she committed suicide and the sig is abandoned in the river, Yes.
Speaker 5 (06:44):
It is. I mean her body is found in the
river as well. So the potential is as she places
the gun to the right side of her head, pulls
the trigger, and then instantly her body goes limps. She
falls into the river while still kind of clutching the
gun or holding the gun or the gun itself just
falls into the river and slides down in the mud.
(07:05):
Her body falls in floats away, gun goes into the
river as well. It is consistent with someone shooting themselves
in the head and then losing body function, dropping the
gun and falling into the waterway.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
There is also the issue and let me go to
Regina Ward. She is the attorney for Michah Miller's sister.
She is with her law firm that she founded, the
Regina Ward Law Firm, and she has been strangely supporting
Micah's family since before Micah was killed.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Regina Ward, thank you for being with us.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Is it true the sig hour was found about five
feet underwater, submerged from Micah's body.
Speaker 11 (07:53):
Well, I can't say for myself if it was true
or notough, but that's what was reported. Obviously I wasn't
there for that, but I'm I've had several questions about
that entire investigation. It was just approached in the wrong
manner in my opinion. So as far as whether it
was or not. Where the report.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Says curious that you would say that, doctor Kendall Crowns,
if the sig was found, say twenty or thirty feet away.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
From the body, would you still think it was suicide.
Speaker 5 (08:21):
So there's a potential when you shoot yourself in the
head further to be actual movement after the wound occurs.
It really depends on what is involved in the brain.
There's an area of the brain called the motor strip
that kind of sits on the side of your head
that controls your function of your arms, your limbs, et cetera.
If that isn't hit, if you go a little more forward,
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you hit the frontal loves of your brain, which is
more memory, feelings of motions, things of that nature. You
are able to still walk after a gunshot wound of
the head, albeit not super far.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Can do you're in heaven? Do you hear your that
after she shows itself in the head.
Speaker 5 (09:02):
She can still walk, obviously, right, it is potential, Yes, okay.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
You know when a witness says something crazy on the stand,
I have to declare them a hostile witness and I
have to cross examine them. And that's what I've got
to do now, Doctor Kimdall Crowns. Of course you are
the medical doctor. I'm just a JD.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
You're the MD. But let me go out on a
limb here.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
How many times have you seen a victim shoot themselves
in the head and their body is still where the
gunshot occurred and they continue to walk.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
How many cases have you personally dealt with like that?
Speaker 5 (09:51):
I wouldn't be able to give you an exact percentage.
It's a small percentage of cases that I have seen it.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
I didn't ask for a percentage. I asked you how many.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
I bet you can count them on one finger.
Speaker 5 (10:04):
No, I can count it on probably more than ten fingers.
In over twenty five years of doing autopsies, I have
seen multiple cases of individuals still able to function after
shooting themselves in the head. I can't tell you, Bombers.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
While you said walk, I don't mean function.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
You said walk, take steps after they shoot themselves in
the head.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
Okay, well I'll rephrase function to walk, but I have
seen it, so you go ahead and rephrase it walk
after shooting themselves in the head, including with shotguns. It
is all placement on where you hit yourself in your brain,
and well how much you'll be able to do afterwards,
and it is it depends on where she's shot in
her brain, how much movement she can have, but placement
(10:51):
of gun. If you're going to do theoretical yes, someone
can shoot themselves in the head and then walk several feet,
maybe even ten yards away from the gun before they
collapse or fall into a river and float away.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Doctor Kendall Crowns, Just so you know, you're losing a
lot of credibility right now. But I guess you're sticking
up from one of your medical examiner friends that.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Perform this autopsy. Doctor Kendall Crown's. Uh, the there's a
fly in.
Speaker 5 (11:18):
Sticking up for anybody or I'm just sticking up for science.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Do I have to cut your mic?
Speaker 2 (11:25):
There's a fly in the ointment, and that fly in
the ointment of your scenario is she would have had
to walk through water after she shoots herself in the head.
How many cases have you seen like that? After the
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person shoots themselves in the head, they walk out in
the water.
Speaker 5 (11:53):
So I'm not sure how she's walking in the water.
How she not shooting herself on the river bank and
then falling forward into the water, floating away while as
the gun floats down underneath her. At that part, I enter, Sam,
you know.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Doctor Kendall Towns, do you have a second career in
writing fiction? In the meantime, while I let doctor Kendall
Crowns think about what he just said, Regina Ward, the
significance of this line of questioning is if the investigation
had shown that the weapon, the SIG nine, was substantially
(12:31):
far away from her, as if it had been thrown
in the river to discard of it after the shooting,
that would open up a whole another investigation, wouldn't it,
Regina Ward?
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Absolutely it would.
Speaker 11 (12:46):
And let me tell you something else that would have
opened up a better investigation, in my opinion, is that
had the Robinson County authorities who were doing the investigation,
had they known about the history of this case and
the sheer terror that mister Miller put her through, and
the harassment and so forth. Had they known about that
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history prior to their investigation and to her death, they
may have approached it a little differently. I feel like
that they approached it with the mindset, Oh, it's, you know,
a self taking of a life. Therefore, let's go find
the proof to prove that's what happened, as opposed to
walking into it staying to themselves. This may not be
(13:32):
what it appears, so let's look closer for evidence that
may prove that it was not a self taking of
the life.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
We do, however, and let's see it control room. We
do have her supporting doctor Kendall Crown's assertion in a
gun store shortly before purchasing the SIGs hour. That is
significant because it can be matched up by serial number.
The gun store keeps a log of serial numbers on
(14:00):
guns sold.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
She did buy the weapon, you know.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Alexis Tereschuk joining US Crime Stories investigative reporter was outlining
the charges in the new federal indictment for those of
you just joining us, The Feds bring down the hammer
on pastor John Paul Miller in connection with his wife
Micah Miller, found dead in a public forest.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Listen to this.
Speaker 10 (14:30):
Just weeks before her death, Micah Miller calls police for
help when she finds a tire on her car's flat.
Police discover a tire deflator is used on the tire.
Micah goes to East Coast Honda and Myrtle Beach, South
Carolina to get a new tire, where John Paul Miller
shows up. That you get into an argument. Video shows
John Paul Miller aggressively walking around Micah threatening to post
(14:50):
a picture online while Micah says walk away. A mechanic
later shows Micah a GPS tracking device have been placed
on her car.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
A GEO tracking de vice placed on her car. Video
has actually caught John Paul Miller aggressively walking around Micah
threatening to post a picture online. Alexis Troschuk joining US
Crime Stories investigator reporter.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
What picture would that have been? The one he threatened
to post?
Speaker 7 (15:18):
A topless photo of her so at topless where she
doesn't have anything on and exposing her breasts.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Joining me now. Chris Melcher.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
He's a veteran trial lawyer celebrity lawyer partner at Waltser,
Melcher and Yoda.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
He has deep experience.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
In complex family law litigation at Waltzermelcher dot com. Chris Melcher,
this isn't helping anything that is encompassed in this new
federal indictment against John Paul Miller. Even if you're married
to someone, you can't just post nuty shots of them
without their consent.
Speaker 12 (15:55):
What's going to be difficult is is that the victim
of these elects defenses, Micah, can't speak for herself, and
that creates a difficulty for the prosecution and an opportunity
for the defense to try to explain these things. Because couples,
do you know, get into arguments, they'll do things for
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whatever reasons, and this kind of gives John Paul Miller
potentially a free hand in his defense to try and
explain away what looks like some very awful facts.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Such as posting nudy shots of Micah that he took
in private posting them online. Let's just follow your argument through,
Chris Milcher, to its logical conclusion. I think what you're
saying in regular people talk, not lawyeries, is that Miller
(16:50):
could now argue his wife Micah was fine with a
nudi shot being posted on social did that was okay?
Speaker 1 (16:57):
That she was into that?
Speaker 12 (17:00):
This is kind of the problem is is that he
can start making up or manufacturing defenses like that that
this was consented to, this was part of their relationship,
she was okay with it, it was a joke. Whatever
he's going to say. Now, maybe these things don't make
sense or they're not credible, but Mike is not there
(17:21):
to defend herself. They're not there to say no, I
wouldn't have done that. Now, sometimes the circumstances show that
no reasonable person would consent to something like that, and
it's just a ridiculous defense. But my sense is there's
going to be a lot of communications between these parties
and he may be able to establish something here, Like
with example, for the tracking device, he's had some explanation
(17:44):
why he might want it to track her, why he
wanted to control her movements, why he wanted to control
her spending. He has had some explanations around that.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Okay, well, you know what.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
You reminded me of Chris Melcher in my days as
a felony prosecutor when I defend and would say, miss Grace,
I want to plead guilty with an explanation.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
I don't care what his explanation is.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Guilty if he put a tracking device on her car,
and she did not consent to it. I don't care
why he thought he needed to do it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
State doesn't have to prove motive, does it.
Speaker 12 (18:18):
Chris Melter, Well, so there's difference between being a crime
and being an act of domestic violence, which is a
civil matter. So under South Carolina law and other.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
States, domestic violence is not a crime.
Speaker 12 (18:30):
In your world, No, it can be both. It can
be an active abuse that justifies a restraining order. It
also can form a crime. But with the tracking device,
the owner of a vehicle, whether it's you, jointly owned
or solely owned. I don't know that how this was titled,
has the right to place a tracking device on it,
so it's not a crime to do so. But placing
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a tracking device on her vehicle, even if legal under
South Carolina law, without her consent and done for the
purpose of tracking her movements for purposes of harassment, would
be an act of domestic violence. But what I understand
his statements to be is that he was concerned about
her conduct and safety and that he wanted to protect
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her and just like a parent, might you know, put
a tracking device on a child or any loved one
who maybe has issues. That is a protective measure. So
this is what I'm saying. He may very well claim.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Oh okay, Chris Melcher, Now I know why you win
so many cases.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
You're like a snake churmer. You know, you go.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
That way and that way with your crazy legal defense,
and some people were actually.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
Going right along with.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Crime stores with Nancy Grace, Doctor Bethany Marshall, I need
a shrink, and I need it quickly, Doctor Bethany Marshall,
renown psycho Anly's joining us out of LA.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
You can see her now on Peacock.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Author deal Breaker and find her at Dr Bethany Marshall
dot com. Did you hear what he just said? Chris
Milcher stated that maybe John Paul Miller playsta tracking device
on his wife's vehicle out of concern for her safety.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
I guess she is just another hysterical woman.
Speaker 13 (20:24):
So did he also slash her tires out of concern
for her safety so she couldn't get away? He was
afraid she couldn't drive? You know, A better way to
protect his wife would have been to cherish her, if
be faithful to her, say nice things to her about herself.
Not humiliate her by putting a naked photo out online.
(20:44):
Nanthy did you hear when she was announcing the congregation
that he had visited the quote unquote body several times
a week before the body.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
He called his wife a body.
Speaker 13 (20:55):
It's like she wasn't even a person to him. She
was just an object to control. And what I'm going
to guess is that there was a lot of control
in that marriage, that he dominated her. And as she
became increasingly independent, which domestic victims sometimes they do get
their safety, he was escalating, escalating, and it just got
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worse and worse. If he was afraid for her safety,
take her to a doctor's visit and get her evaluated,
don't splash her tires.
Speaker 14 (21:23):
And even an earthly spouse who's a good spouse, when
they know that their bride is being hurt, Just imagine
what an earthly spouse does. What do you think your
heavenly spouse does when you're the bride of Christ and
he sees his bride going through abuse and hurt?
Speaker 1 (21:46):
What do you think he thinks about that?
Speaker 8 (21:48):
Now?
Speaker 2 (21:48):
On one, what's the address of your emergency?
Speaker 8 (21:51):
Hi?
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Are you able to trace the location on my phone?
You don't know where you're at a national park.
Speaker 10 (22:00):
Where's the park located at.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
In Bear Bluff? I have my location on I think
on my phone and my phone is on. Just did
my siller my locations?
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Tell me what's happened.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
I'm about to kill myself and I just want my
family to know where to find me.
Speaker 13 (22:27):
Okay, ma'am, just let someone I'm saying, okay.
Speaker 6 (22:33):
Let me make sure I got the exact location where
you're at.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Okay, just one minute you are hearing.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
The nine on one call that Micameller ostensibly made just
before she was killed. When a medical examiner makes a
ruling of suicide, homicide, accident, natural causes, they look not
just at the body, but they also look at extrinsic circumstances,
as doctor Kendall Crown's many many times. Would that nine
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one one call be one of the extrinsic circumstances that
you look at to determine cood cause of death? I
mean she's on nine one one claiming I'm about to
kill myself.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
Yes, I mean that would play into the determination of
manner of death, as well as purchasing the gun that day,
having the receipt of the scene as well as the
autopsy findings of a contact range gunshot wounded the head
with a muzzle impression which shows that the gun is
held tightly against the head. All those together really point
towards suicide.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
I want to go to a special guest joining us, Christianna.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
She has detailed for us that the pastor John Paul
Miller begged her for nude shots.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
I mean, Christianna, thank you for being with us.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Are you surprised that the Feds have finally brought down
the hammer on John Paul Miller.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
He is charged with multiple crimes.
Speaker 6 (24:05):
I'm not prie at all. I'm glad to see and
finally sticking in with.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Something, Christiana detail for us your experience with John Paul Miller.
Speaker 6 (24:19):
He came into a restaurant where I was working, and
he basically he tried to hit on me, and he
asked me for nudes and he was very persistent and
very inappropriate.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
When was this, Christiana?
Speaker 6 (24:36):
This was in February of last year, before what happened
to Micah in May.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Okay, hold on, let me understand this guys joining me
is Christiana and this is not for business history. As
far as I can tell, Christiana described this incident for
us at the time, contemporaneously, around the time that it happened.
She's not coming out of the woodwork now that these
federal charges have come down. She's this is a story
(25:05):
that she has told her story from the beginning and
it has not changed, which is something you look at
when you determine truthfulness or veracity of a witness.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Has their story changed?
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Did they wait a long period of time to come
out with their story, Do they have an ulterior motive?
Are they making money off of it? Are they benefiting
somehow by telling this story. This woman won't even give
her a last name publicly because she doesn't want the
backlash from John Paul Miller's supporters. You stated that you
were working at a restaurant and he came up to
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you and started flirting with you.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
What did he say?
Speaker 2 (25:40):
And reminder everyone, this is feb twenty twenty four. He's
married to Micah Miller at this time. The date of
her death is April twenty seventh, the end of April
twenty twenty four, February March April, three months before she's
found dead hitting on Christiana and open at a restaurant.
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Exactly what happened, Christiana.
Speaker 6 (26:08):
He was I was working at the restaurant and he
was at one of my tables. He left his phone
number on his receipt, and he didn't say anything initially,
he just left his number. But once I was in
contact with him, he started right off the bat talking
about how he was going through a divorce, accusing his
(26:28):
ex wife of being crazy and bipolar, and said she'd
been in and out of the mental institution. And he
pretty almost instantly started asking me for nudes.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Let's see those techs again. Please, there is a smiley
face and phone number. I need a bikini pick of you, Eloill.
I don't know if I really have any. I think
most of the time when I'm in a swimsuit, I'm
also in a mermaid tail. Then he says, okay, no bikini.
Do you have them with just the mermaid tell in
(27:03):
other words, nude?
Speaker 1 (27:04):
She says, no, I don't think so, Actually give me something.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
I'm still trying to send you pics like you wanted
a gentitle picture from him. Hey, what are you doing,
I'm working, hint, go away, send me a pick, Send
me a pick, okay, you know to doctor Bethany Marshall,
joining us. Could you explain the phenomena of guys who
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they get sexual pleasure out of just obtaining nude photos
from women they don't really even know.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
They're after everybody they meet to get nudes. What is that?
Speaker 6 (27:46):
Okay?
Speaker 13 (27:46):
What I'm hearing in this story is that the minute
you met her, which was working at the restaurant, he
started to dominate her, asking for photos, giving his numbers,
saying he wants to send pictures. He's not just gonna
use those pictures for sexual gratification, Nancy. Once he has
those photos, he has ultimate power over her. Remember what
he did to Micah He released her photo online. So
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this is a guy who comes out of the gate
looking like he wants sex, but he really wants power,
and he's exploiting the woman's sexuality in order to get it.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Christiana, did you ever send an aide photo? I did not,
but yet he was not dissuaded.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Correct.
Speaker 6 (28:31):
Correct, He was very persistent, and I tried to play
it off as oh, I don't have any pictures, but
I tried to I was trying to dodge it, and
I got the screenshots of him behaving that way, but
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I wasn't going to send him anything like that, and
I guess he you know, I got the screenshots that
I needed to show how he was behaving, and I
guess he lost interest because he wasn't getting the photos
that he wanted.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Doesn't seem like he lost interest very quickly.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Okay, no bikini in other words, nude, Doctor Bethany Marshall,
there's another aspect to this. Okay, there's a whole voyeurism thing,
which you need to explain. You're the psychoanalyst, but also
doctor Bethany, the constant badgering. That's something different. It's not
just John Paul Miller sitting all alone in the bathroom,
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and I want to expound on that looking at her
nude photos. But there's the badgering aspect. She said no,
she's not sending them, She's lol, go away.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
But he doesn't get it. He keeps badgering her.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
He won't quit.
Speaker 13 (29:46):
Nancy. He's trying to break her down. He lost interest
because he couldn't have power over her. That's what happened
when she set her boundaries. He eventually slunk away. The
reason he wanted those photos not only to degrade milliate
expose her, have power over her, but if you're masturbating
to a photo, which is likely what you wanted those
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photos for. You are having a sexual experience with a
piece of pain.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Wait wait, I'm not following your train of thought.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
You've got Mica Miller in the next room, in the bedroom,
but you're saying he.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
If the hypothetical per man.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Is masturbating to a photo he's just gotten off of
a waitress at a restaurant that he's just met, why
would he want that instead of going to be with
his wife.
Speaker 13 (30:42):
Because when you relate to your wife, you have to
acknowledge that she's a full person with feelings, with thoughts, emotions.
Maybe a person who might say no sometimes, maybe a
person who wants to spend her own money. Maybe a
person who has friends wants to take a trip. Somebody
like this pastor can only relate to others on the
basis of power and control. He does not relate to
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people for who they are, as though their own individuals,
And that's how we get perversions. Nancy like voyeurism is
that the person can only get that sexual arousal by
a picture of a person or an idea of a person,
But they can't sit down at dinner with that person
and have a full conversation with them. They can't have
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a sexual interaction, and maybe they want to give the
other person an orgasm or want to please them or
relate to them as their own person. So that's why
he's procuring pictures. And I think that's why Micah God
rest her soul probably eventually took her life because she
was not a person to him anymore. She was just
an object like he was trying to turn the waitress
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into an object, and he broke her down, broke her down,
broke her down until eventually she imagined she had no
life and no future. And Nancy, that's where he was
going with this waitress. If she had said yes, what
could have happened to her? He could have stalked her too,
he could have broken her down, he could have alienated
her from other people, all the signs of abuse that
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we know about. But thank god, she had the preservation
of mind to say no, and she's stuck to it now.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
Everyone.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
John Paul Miller insists he's innocent and has nothing to
do with what happened to his wife. In fact, he
is remarried. He is innocent until proven guilty. He got
another woman to marry him. Dave Mac joining US Crime
Story's investigative reporter, along with Alexis Tereschuk joining US out
of LA tonight. Didn't John Paul Miller apologize for sending these?
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I mean, if he's apologizing, doesn't that mean if he's
apologizing for doing it, doesn't that mean he did it?
Speaker 15 (32:48):
He apologized to Micah or posting photos of her on
that Facebook page.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Dave Mac, that is new information. It's critical for Chris
Melcher's theory. Are you telling me that John Paul Miller
the pastor apologizes to Micah. Do we have proof he
apologizes for posting the nude photos?
Speaker 15 (33:10):
Yeah, they actually uncovered the text message he center where
he said that he was evil for doing it.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Okay, Chris Melcher, Bye bye to one of your defenses.
It's not gonna happen, Chris Melcher, because one of your defenses,
and I'm sure you're.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Gonna pull another one out of your hat like a rabbit.
One of your defenses was, hey, maybe this was consensual.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
We don't know that, and she's dead and she can't
deny it.
Speaker 12 (33:50):
That's right, Nancy. If that text message is introduced into
evidence before a jury that would establish that he sent
the message, so there would be no question. And if
he admitted, if he apologized for sending it, that means
he sent it, so they get that element of it.
And then secondly that he's acknowledging that it's wrong. He
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says it was evil, so he would that it would
be basically game over on that one element. But I
still do see some potential defenses on the other things
that he's accused of.
Speaker 16 (34:24):
A pray that prey through would happen today, A prey miracle,
sovery your life in Jesus Name, in Jesus' name, A
pray for your healing circumstances would change. I pray that
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the fear inside would flee in Jesus name. A pray
that prey through would happen today, A pre miracle, so
very Jesus name in Jesus' name.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
Imagine being married to that. It was like that in
our house all the time.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
And that hysterical laughing, it's almost maniacal.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
In the last.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
Hours, we are bringing you the indictment of John Paul Miller,
the pastor out of South Carolina. The grand jury has
met and has charged him with multiple counts in a
nutshell of alexis trustshut.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
What are the charges.
Speaker 7 (35:50):
There's a false statement which he made when he was
lying to the police officers about whether or not he
had contacted her over fifty times in one day, multiple times,
and then cyber stocking, where they said that he was
intentionally tracking her, that he put a GPS tracker on her,
and that he was using the computer in other ways
to follow her, and that he said that he did
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not deflate her tires, but they found that a deflation
device was used by him or someone that knows him
to deflate her tires. And he is facing quite a
few years in prison for this. The federal charges if
he has found guilty for cyber stalking, could be five years.
It could be between nine and ten years, depending on
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the charges that the jury decides that he's guilty of.
And then with the line to the police, that's also
another five years, possibly even eight years that he could
receive behind bars. So he could get almost twenty years
behind bars, he'd get a huge fine, and he could.
Speaker 8 (36:48):
Have to be on probation for many years.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
So we've got count one, which is cyber stalking, and
you're telling me he could be sentenced up to ten
years on that.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
Is that correct?
Speaker 8 (36:59):
Yes, it is absolutely correct.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
And in count two we've got false statements and that
could result in five years behind bars.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
Correct, Is that right?
Speaker 8 (37:11):
Yes, so we're looking.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
At a potential of fifteen years if the charges are
run consecutively.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
Back to Christiana joining.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
Us, who says she was approached by John Paul Miller
who begged for nudes relentlessly. Christiana, when you heard the
actual charges against John Paul Miller, who remains innocent tonight
as we go to air, he is presumed innocent under
the law. He says, he's innocent, and he will be
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innocent until he has proven guilty in a court of law.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
Christiana, when you.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Heard the actual charges of cyberstalking and lying, did that
surprise you?
Speaker 6 (37:52):
I think a lot of us would like to hear
a bit more than that. But in South Carolina it's
the precedent for domestic violence. I in my own experience,
I was told by a solicitor that you have to
be essentially beaten to a bloody pulp to get a
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domestic violence conviction. So it's not surprising to me that
they don't always put the highest charges on these people,
and I can't imagine the hopelessness that Micah would have felt,
especially with her abuser being in a position of authority.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Dave Mac joining us a Crime Story's investigative reporter. What
was the reaction from his flock at his church after
Micah was found dead?
Speaker 3 (38:45):
Nancy?
Speaker 15 (38:45):
It was a divided block, Okay, when his wife is
found dead. Half of the church immediately thought something was
seriously wrong with this and they demanded justice. As a
matter of fact, there were two separate funerals or celebration
of life service, whatever you want to call it. One
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group did it where he was not invited, and then
John Paul did it one in his own you know,
a solid rock. So yeah, it divided the church immediately.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
Well, there were many many protests against John Paul Miller
at the time. Listen that from the Robbie Harvey on
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X and Melissa Pfeiffer. Another question, Dave Mac and alexis
t restaurant first toy you, Alexis is it true another
woman has actually married him?
Speaker 1 (40:05):
Is this his third wife?
Speaker 7 (40:07):
Yes, it is true they got married and in fact
she had a husband who died tragically in twenty twenty one.
He was a quadriplegic and he drowned, so terrible tragedy.
And then when she became known publicly that she was
with him, with John Paul Miller, people started questioning this
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man's death and investigating, saying maybe there was something going
on that this was but they did rule out that
any foul play happened. That he did just tragically drown
so neither one of them has his thouse anymore.
Speaker 8 (40:38):
And they got married.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
Okay, wait a minute, so he John Paul Miller marries
the woman.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
Was she a member of his church?
Speaker 8 (40:47):
Yes, she and her husband were.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
And the husband is a quadriplegic and he somehow ends
up in a pool and drowns. Dave mack were there
claims that these two were having an affair before her
husband's death.
Speaker 15 (41:04):
Absolutely. The actual accusation came from JP Miller's first wife,
Alice and Williams. She claims that Susie and that Susie
Skinner was involved romantically with JP. And by the way,
the day that Chris Skinner's wheelchair, you know, if you
actually see the video, Nancy, his wheelchair just guns it
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right towards the pool. This is a pool that he
fought over the homeowners association putting in a wheelchair lift
so he could actually utilize the pool. And that's the
pool he drowns in. And it's really weird how that happened.
But when they find his body in the pool, Susie
Skinner goes over and tells fire guys, hey man, he
has a do not resuscitate order because they pulled him out.
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He was not dead in the pool. They pulled him
out of the water and there the paramedics are like, well,
you got to show us the paperwork, and she leaves
and doesn't come back in time, and of course they
had taken him to the hospital by then. But then
she doesn't go to the hospital right away. She actually
hangs out and waits for John Paul Miller and his
wife Micah and stays with them for a few hours
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before finally going to the hospital hours later, where she
goes and visits her now husband at the hospital. So
there's a whole lot more to this story than meets
the eye, which is why after Micah Miller's death they
did bring this back out and started investigating the death
of Chris Skinner.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
Let's be clear about this.
Speaker 2 (42:28):
Dave mac John Paul Miller is not accused or suspected
in the death of his now wife's dead husband.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
Is that correct? He's not suspected.
Speaker 15 (42:36):
Absolutely, No, he's not suspected in any way.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
And neither is she.
Speaker 10 (42:41):
Nope, neither is she.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
Okay, But one of the consequences of his death, in
the aftermath of his death in the pool, these two got.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
Married, right.
Speaker 10 (42:52):
Absolutely, that's correct, okay, And I.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
Also want to stress again, John Paul Miller is resumed
innocent of any and all charges.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
Yes, he has just been indicted by.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
The FEDS two counts cyberstalking and false statement, but he
remains innocent until proven guilty. As of tonight, he is innocent.
If you know or think you know anything about this case,
please call Robinson County Sheriff's nine one zero six thirty
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one hundred nine one zero six thirty one hundred. We
remember an American hero, Sheriff Alan Weber Gove County Sheriffs, Kansas,
killed in the line of duty, leaving behind a wife
turned widow and three children.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
American hero Sheriff Allan
Speaker 2 (43:47):
Nancy Grace signing off
Crime Stories with Nancy.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Grace busted the Feds finally and died a Myrtle Beach
pastor preacher John Paul Miller after the swamp death shooting
of his wife, Micah Miller.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. I want to
thank you for being with us.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
That is put my family to know where to find me.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Micah now did by gunshot wound? Her body found submerged
in a body of water.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
I even tried to raise her from the dead.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Did he just say he tried to raise her from
the dead and he laid by her body four times?
Speaker 5 (00:39):
Was she convinced by someone to kill herself? A possibility?
Speaker 2 (00:43):
In the last hours, the Feds do what state authorities
would not do. They bring down the hammer on the
so called pastor John Paul Miller, after the shocking death
of his young wife who he allegedly harassed straight into
a gun shop. But first, before I get into those charges,
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thank you Feds. Let's take a listen to the now
federal descendant, John Paul Miller at his finest.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
I got this late next to her body, and it's
been down with her body about four times this week,
and each time it still didn't hit me. I thought
she was going to wake up. You know. I even
tried to raise her from the dead one time this week.
And she was so creative. Everything she did was so creative.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
What's the next picture?
Speaker 6 (01:40):
You know?
Speaker 4 (01:41):
I've been, I've been. I've been speaking for many years.
And for the first time, I don't really know exactly
you know, how to open or how to cooks or
aneath that.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
I'm gonna have to play that again. That is from
Solid Rock Ministries. Does he actually think I'm buying this?
There were no tears and definitely no snot. I need
to see that one more time.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
I can't wait to see her again one day. Oh,
I'm good, I'm good, And that's nothing. She was so creative.
She it was just always just coming out of her.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
So many things just jump out at me. Again.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
That is from Solid Rock Ministries for those of you
just joining us. The pastor John Paul Miller finally facing
federal charges in connection to his wife Micah Miller.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
First of all, he says.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Oh, after all these years you know speaking, He suggests
that he is short of words, he doesn't know what
to say, but yet he keeps talking.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
He says he doesn't like pain. We'll get ready for
a boatload of it.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
John Paul Miller joining me and All Star Panel to
make sense of what we are learning. Straight out to
Alexis Tereschuk, Crime Stories Investigative Reporter Alexis, the Feds finally
bring down the hammer. This after hundreds and hundreds of
online protests appealing to l E Law enforcement to bring charges.
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What are the charges, Alexis Tereschuk.
Speaker 7 (03:26):
He has been charged with cyberstalking, and I'm going to
read exactly the indictment that he John Paul Miller sent
or caused to be sent unwanted and harassing electronic communications
to her, used or threatened to use nude videos and
photographs of her, hosted a nude photo of her online
without her consent, placed or caused to be placed a
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tracking device on her vehicle with the intent to harass
and surveil her. And he intervieered with her finances, banking,
and interfered with her daily activities.
Speaker 8 (03:57):
He also made a false statement to law enforcement.
Speaker 7 (04:00):
They said he did knowingly and willfully make a material
of false, fictitious, and fraudulent.
Speaker 8 (04:05):
Statement in representation.
Speaker 7 (04:07):
In this case, he said that they had been calling
each other back and forth. The FED said, nope, you
called her more than fifty times in one day, harassing her.
He said, I never damaged her car tires. They said,
you actually bought a tool to deflate car tires, and
this fact you cause these tires on.
Speaker 8 (04:28):
Her car to be deflated.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
That's a lot from the fads, guys.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Finally, what many people, what many justice champions have longed
for since Micah's body was found at the Lumber River
State Park, the FEDS bring down the hammer and do
what state authorities refused to do.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Listen.
Speaker 9 (04:50):
Law enforcement is notified by nine to one one dispatch
that Micah Miller is in Lumber River State Park and
they begin searching. Michah Miller's phone is pinged at three
twenty ps and law enforcement has a drone dispatch to
the area to help search. At three forty two, Micah's
car is located in the parking lot of the Lumber
River State Park. Inside the car, investigators find a nine
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millimeters six hour hard gun case and receipt showing the
location of where the weapon was purchased.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Many debute still insists Micah Miller was murdered, but here
is hard.
Speaker 10 (05:22):
Evidence investigators at Lumber River State Park are notified by
a kayaker at four twenty three pm that a body
is in the river and a black bag with ida
money found on the bank of the river is turned
over to law enforcement as well. Officers recovered two spend
casings and one live round on the bank of the
river and there's no sign of a physical struggle. A
regional pathologist is called to the scene for assistance. Micah
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Miller is found submerged in the river beside tree limbs,
about one hundred feet from the casings.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
There is a concerning aspect to the discovery of a
nine millimeter sig sour.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Dodger Kendel Crowns joining us.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
He is a renowned chief medical examiner out of Terrent County,
That's Fort Worth. Never a lack of business in the
morgue there. He is the esteem lecturer at Burnett School
of Medicine at TCU, and he is a star of
a hit Knee podcast, Mayhem in the Morgue.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Doctor Kendall Crowns, thank you for being with us.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
The nine millimeter is removed from the river using a magnet.
The serial number on the gun matches the number on
the gun case in Micah's car. Is that feasible that
she committed suicide and the sig is abandoned in the river, Yes.
Speaker 5 (06:44):
It is. I mean her body is found in the
river as well. So the potential is as she places
the gun to the right side of her head, pulls
the trigger, and then instantly her body goes limps. She
falls into the river while still kind of clutching the
gun or holding the gun or the gun itself just
falls into the river and slides down in the mud.
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Her body falls in floats away, gun goes into the
river as well. It is consistent with someone shooting themselves
in the head and then losing body function, dropping the
gun and falling into the waterway.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
There is also the issue and let me go to
Regina Ward. She is the attorney for Michah Miller's sister.
She is with her law firm that she founded, the
Regina Ward Law Firm, and she has been strangely supporting
Micah's family since before Micah was killed.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Regina Ward, thank you for being with us.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Is it true the sig hour was found about five
feet underwater, submerged from Micah's body.
Speaker 11 (07:53):
Well, I can't say for myself if it was true
or notough, but that's what was reported. Obviously I wasn't
there for that, but I'm I've had several questions about
that entire investigation. It was just approached in the wrong
manner in my opinion. So as far as whether it
was or not. Where the report.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Says curious that you would say that, doctor Kendall Crowns,
if the sig was found, say twenty or thirty feet away.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
From the body, would you still think it was suicide.
Speaker 5 (08:21):
So there's a potential when you shoot yourself in the
head further to be actual movement after the wound occurs.
It really depends on what is involved in the brain.
There's an area of the brain called the motor strip
that kind of sits on the side of your head
that controls your function of your arms, your limbs, et cetera.
If that isn't hit, if you go a little more forward,
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you hit the frontal loves of your brain, which is
more memory, feelings of motions, things of that nature. You
are able to still walk after a gunshot wound of
the head, albeit not super far.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Can do you're in heaven? Do you hear your that
after she shows itself in the head.
Speaker 5 (09:02):
She can still walk, obviously, right, it is potential, Yes, okay.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
You know when a witness says something crazy on the stand,
I have to declare them a hostile witness and I
have to cross examine them. And that's what I've got
to do now, Doctor Kimdall Crowns. Of course you are
the medical doctor. I'm just a JD.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
You're the MD. But let me go out on a
limb here.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
How many times have you seen a victim shoot themselves
in the head and their body is still where the
gunshot occurred and they continue to walk.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
How many cases have you personally dealt with like that?
Speaker 5 (09:51):
I wouldn't be able to give you an exact percentage.
It's a small percentage of cases that I have seen it.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
I didn't ask for a percentage. I asked you how many.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
I bet you can count them on one finger.
Speaker 5 (10:04):
No, I can count it on probably more than ten fingers.
In over twenty five years of doing autopsies, I have
seen multiple cases of individuals still able to function after
shooting themselves in the head. I can't tell you, Bombers.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
While you said walk, I don't mean function.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
You said walk, take steps after they shoot themselves in
the head.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
Okay, well I'll rephrase function to walk, but I have
seen it, so you go ahead and rephrase it walk
after shooting themselves in the head, including with shotguns. It
is all placement on where you hit yourself in your brain,
and well how much you'll be able to do afterwards,
and it is it depends on where she's shot in
her brain, how much movement she can have, but placement
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of gun. If you're going to do theoretical yes, someone
can shoot themselves in the head and then walk several feet,
maybe even ten yards away from the gun before they
collapse or fall into a river and float away.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Doctor Kendall Crowns, Just so you know, you're losing a
lot of credibility right now. But I guess you're sticking
up from one of your medical examiner friends that.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Perform this autopsy. Doctor Kendall Crown's. Uh, the there's a
fly in.
Speaker 5 (11:18):
Sticking up for anybody or I'm just sticking up for science.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Do I have to cut your mic?
Speaker 2 (11:25):
There's a fly in the ointment, and that fly in
the ointment of your scenario is she would have had
to walk through water after she shoots herself in the head.
How many cases have you seen like that? After the
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person shoots themselves in the head, they walk out in
the water.
Speaker 5 (11:53):
So I'm not sure how she's walking in the water.
How she not shooting herself on the river bank and
then falling forward into the water, floating away while as
the gun floats down underneath her. At that part, I enter, Sam,
you know.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Doctor Kendall Towns, do you have a second career in
writing fiction? In the meantime, while I let doctor Kendall
Crowns think about what he just said, Regina Ward, the
significance of this line of questioning is if the investigation
had shown that the weapon, the SIG nine, was substantially
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far away from her, as if it had been thrown
in the river to discard of it after the shooting,
that would open up a whole another investigation, wouldn't it,
Regina Ward?
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Absolutely it would.
Speaker 11 (12:46):
And let me tell you something else that would have
opened up a better investigation, in my opinion, is that
had the Robinson County authorities who were doing the investigation,
had they known about the history of this case and
the sheer terror that mister Miller put her through, and
the harassment and so forth. Had they known about that
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history prior to their investigation and to her death, they
may have approached it a little differently. I feel like
that they approached it with the mindset, Oh, it's, you know,
a self taking of a life. Therefore, let's go find
the proof to prove that's what happened, as opposed to
walking into it staying to themselves. This may not be
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what it appears, so let's look closer for evidence that
may prove that it was not a self taking of
the life.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
We do, however, and let's see it control room. We
do have her supporting doctor Kendall Crown's assertion in a
gun store shortly before purchasing the SIGs hour. That is
significant because it can be matched up by serial number.
The gun store keeps a log of serial numbers on
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guns sold.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
She did buy the weapon, you know.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Alexis Tereschuk joining US Crime Stories investigative reporter was outlining
the charges in the new federal indictment for those of
you just joining us, The Feds bring down the hammer
on pastor John Paul Miller in connection with his wife
Micah Miller, found dead in a public forest.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Listen to this.
Speaker 10 (14:30):
Just weeks before her death, Micah Miller calls police for
help when she finds a tire on her car's flat.
Police discover a tire deflator is used on the tire.
Micah goes to East Coast Honda and Myrtle Beach, South
Carolina to get a new tire, where John Paul Miller
shows up. That you get into an argument. Video shows
John Paul Miller aggressively walking around Micah threatening to post
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a picture online while Micah says walk away. A mechanic
later shows Micah a GPS tracking device have been placed
on her car.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
A GEO tracking de vice placed on her car. Video
has actually caught John Paul Miller aggressively walking around Micah
threatening to post a picture online. Alexis Troschuk joining US
Crime Stories investigator reporter.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
What picture would that have been? The one he threatened
to post?
Speaker 7 (15:18):
A topless photo of her so at topless where she
doesn't have anything on and exposing her breasts.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Joining me now. Chris Melcher.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
He's a veteran trial lawyer celebrity lawyer partner at Waltser,
Melcher and Yoda.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
He has deep experience.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
In complex family law litigation at Waltzermelcher dot com. Chris Melcher,
this isn't helping anything that is encompassed in this new
federal indictment against John Paul Miller. Even if you're married
to someone, you can't just post nuty shots of them
without their consent.
Speaker 12 (15:55):
What's going to be difficult is is that the victim
of these elects defenses, Micah, can't speak for herself, and
that creates a difficulty for the prosecution and an opportunity
for the defense to try to explain these things. Because couples,
do you know, get into arguments, they'll do things for
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whatever reasons, and this kind of gives John Paul Miller
potentially a free hand in his defense to try and
explain away what looks like some very awful facts.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Such as posting nudy shots of Micah that he took
in private posting them online. Let's just follow your argument through,
Chris Milcher, to its logical conclusion. I think what you're
saying in regular people talk, not lawyeries, is that Miller
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could now argue his wife Micah was fine with a
nudi shot being posted on social did that was okay?
Speaker 1 (16:57):
That she was into that?
Speaker 12 (17:00):
This is kind of the problem is is that he
can start making up or manufacturing defenses like that that
this was consented to, this was part of their relationship,
she was okay with it, it was a joke. Whatever
he's going to say. Now, maybe these things don't make
sense or they're not credible, but Mike is not there
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to defend herself. They're not there to say no, I
wouldn't have done that. Now, sometimes the circumstances show that
no reasonable person would consent to something like that, and
it's just a ridiculous defense. But my sense is there's
going to be a lot of communications between these parties
and he may be able to establish something here, Like
with example, for the tracking device, he's had some explanation
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why he might want it to track her, why he
wanted to control her movements, why he wanted to control
her spending. He has had some explanations around that.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Okay, well, you know what.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
You reminded me of Chris Melcher in my days as
a felony prosecutor when I defend and would say, miss Grace,
I want to plead guilty with an explanation.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
I don't care what his explanation is.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Guilty if he put a tracking device on her car,
and she did not consent to it. I don't care
why he thought he needed to do it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
State doesn't have to prove motive, does it.
Speaker 12 (18:18):
Chris Melter, Well, so there's difference between being a crime
and being an act of domestic violence, which is a
civil matter. So under South Carolina law and other.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
States, domestic violence is not a crime.
Speaker 12 (18:30):
In your world, No, it can be both. It can
be an active abuse that justifies a restraining order. It
also can form a crime. But with the tracking device,
the owner of a vehicle, whether it's you, jointly owned
or solely owned. I don't know that how this was titled,
has the right to place a tracking device on it,
so it's not a crime to do so. But placing
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a tracking device on her vehicle, even if legal under
South Carolina law, without her consent and done for the
purpose of tracking her movements for purposes of harassment, would
be an act of domestic violence. But what I understand
his statements to be is that he was concerned about
her conduct and safety and that he wanted to protect
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her and just like a parent, might you know, put
a tracking device on a child or any loved one
who maybe has issues. That is a protective measure. So
this is what I'm saying. He may very well claim.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Oh okay, Chris Melcher, Now I know why you win
so many cases.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
You're like a snake churmer. You know, you go.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
That way and that way with your crazy legal defense,
and some people were actually.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
Going right along with.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Crime stores with Nancy Grace, Doctor Bethany Marshall, I need
a shrink, and I need it quickly, Doctor Bethany Marshall,
renown psycho Anly's joining us out of LA.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
You can see her now on Peacock.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Author deal Breaker and find her at Dr Bethany Marshall
dot com. Did you hear what he just said? Chris
Milcher stated that maybe John Paul Miller playsta tracking device
on his wife's vehicle out of concern for her safety.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
I guess she is just another hysterical woman.
Speaker 13 (20:24):
So did he also slash her tires out of concern
for her safety so she couldn't get away? He was
afraid she couldn't drive? You know, A better way to
protect his wife would have been to cherish her, if
be faithful to her, say nice things to her about herself.
Not humiliate her by putting a naked photo out online.
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Nanthy did you hear when she was announcing the congregation
that he had visited the quote unquote body several times
a week before the body.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
He called his wife a body.
Speaker 13 (20:55):
It's like she wasn't even a person to him. She
was just an object to control. And what I'm going
to guess is that there was a lot of control
in that marriage, that he dominated her. And as she
became increasingly independent, which domestic victims sometimes they do get
their safety, he was escalating, escalating, and it just got
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worse and worse. If he was afraid for her safety,
take her to a doctor's visit and get her evaluated,
don't splash her tires.
Speaker 14 (21:23):
And even an earthly spouse who's a good spouse, when
they know that their bride is being hurt, Just imagine
what an earthly spouse does. What do you think your
heavenly spouse does when you're the bride of Christ and
he sees his bride going through abuse and hurt?
Speaker 1 (21:46):
What do you think he thinks about that?
Speaker 8 (21:48):
Now?
Speaker 2 (21:48):
On one, what's the address of your emergency?
Speaker 8 (21:51):
Hi?
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Are you able to trace the location on my phone?
You don't know where you're at a national park.
Speaker 10 (22:00):
Where's the park located at.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
In Bear Bluff? I have my location on I think
on my phone and my phone is on. Just did
my siller my locations?
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Tell me what's happened.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
I'm about to kill myself and I just want my
family to know where to find me.
Speaker 13 (22:27):
Okay, ma'am, just let someone I'm saying, okay.
Speaker 6 (22:33):
Let me make sure I got the exact location where
you're at.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Okay, just one minute you are hearing.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
The nine on one call that Micameller ostensibly made just
before she was killed. When a medical examiner makes a
ruling of suicide, homicide, accident, natural causes, they look not
just at the body, but they also look at extrinsic circumstances,
as doctor Kendall Crown's many many times. Would that nine
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one one call be one of the extrinsic circumstances that
you look at to determine cood cause of death? I
mean she's on nine one one claiming I'm about to
kill myself.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
Yes, I mean that would play into the determination of
manner of death, as well as purchasing the gun that day,
having the receipt of the scene as well as the
autopsy findings of a contact range gunshot wounded the head
with a muzzle impression which shows that the gun is
held tightly against the head. All those together really point
towards suicide.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
I want to go to a special guest joining us, Christianna.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
She has detailed for us that the pastor John Paul
Miller begged her for nude shots.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
I mean, Christianna, thank you for being with us.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Are you surprised that the Feds have finally brought down
the hammer on John Paul Miller.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
He is charged with multiple crimes.
Speaker 6 (24:05):
I'm not prie at all. I'm glad to see and
finally sticking in with.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Something, Christiana detail for us your experience with John Paul Miller.
Speaker 6 (24:19):
He came into a restaurant where I was working, and
he basically he tried to hit on me, and he
asked me for nudes and he was very persistent and
very inappropriate.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
When was this, Christiana?
Speaker 6 (24:36):
This was in February of last year, before what happened
to Micah in May.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Okay, hold on, let me understand this guys joining me
is Christiana and this is not for business history. As
far as I can tell, Christiana described this incident for
us at the time, contemporaneously, around the time that it happened.
She's not coming out of the woodwork now that these
federal charges have come down. She's this is a story
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that she has told her story from the beginning and
it has not changed, which is something you look at
when you determine truthfulness or veracity of a witness.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Has their story changed?
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Did they wait a long period of time to come
out with their story, Do they have an ulterior motive?
Are they making money off of it? Are they benefiting
somehow by telling this story. This woman won't even give
her a last name publicly because she doesn't want the
backlash from John Paul Miller's supporters. You stated that you
were working at a restaurant and he came up to
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you and started flirting with you.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
What did he say?
Speaker 2 (25:40):
And reminder everyone, this is feb twenty twenty four. He's
married to Micah Miller at this time. The date of
her death is April twenty seventh, the end of April
twenty twenty four, February March April, three months before she's
found dead hitting on Christiana and open at a restaurant.
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Exactly what happened, Christiana.
Speaker 6 (26:08):
He was I was working at the restaurant and he
was at one of my tables. He left his phone
number on his receipt, and he didn't say anything initially,
he just left his number. But once I was in
contact with him, he started right off the bat talking
about how he was going through a divorce, accusing his
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ex wife of being crazy and bipolar, and said she'd
been in and out of the mental institution. And he
pretty almost instantly started asking me for nudes.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Let's see those techs again. Please, there is a smiley
face and phone number. I need a bikini pick of you, Eloill.
I don't know if I really have any. I think
most of the time when I'm in a swimsuit, I'm
also in a mermaid tail. Then he says, okay, no bikini.
Do you have them with just the mermaid tell in
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other words, nude?
Speaker 1 (27:04):
She says, no, I don't think so, Actually give me something.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
I'm still trying to send you pics like you wanted
a gentitle picture from him. Hey, what are you doing,
I'm working, hint, go away, send me a pick, Send
me a pick, okay, you know to doctor Bethany Marshall,
joining us. Could you explain the phenomena of guys who
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they get sexual pleasure out of just obtaining nude photos
from women they don't really even know.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
They're after everybody they meet to get nudes. What is that?
Speaker 6 (27:46):
Okay?
Speaker 13 (27:46):
What I'm hearing in this story is that the minute
you met her, which was working at the restaurant, he
started to dominate her, asking for photos, giving his numbers,
saying he wants to send pictures. He's not just gonna
use those pictures for sexual gratification, Nancy. Once he has
those photos, he has ultimate power over her. Remember what
he did to Micah He released her photo online. So
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this is a guy who comes out of the gate
looking like he wants sex, but he really wants power,
and he's exploiting the woman's sexuality in order to get it.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Christiana, did you ever send an aide photo? I did not,
but yet he was not dissuaded.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Correct.
Speaker 6 (28:31):
Correct, He was very persistent, and I tried to play
it off as oh, I don't have any pictures, but
I tried to I was trying to dodge it, and
I got the screenshots of him behaving that way, but
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I wasn't going to send him anything like that, and
I guess he you know, I got the screenshots that
I needed to show how he was behaving, and I
guess he lost interest because he wasn't getting the photos
that he wanted.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Doesn't seem like he lost interest very quickly.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Okay, no bikini in other words, nude, Doctor Bethany Marshall,
there's another aspect to this. Okay, there's a whole voyeurism thing,
which you need to explain. You're the psychoanalyst, but also
doctor Bethany, the constant badgering. That's something different. It's not
just John Paul Miller sitting all alone in the bathroom,
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and I want to expound on that looking at her
nude photos. But there's the badgering aspect. She said no,
she's not sending them, She's lol, go away.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
But he doesn't get it. He keeps badgering her.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
He won't quit.
Speaker 13 (29:46):
Nancy. He's trying to break her down. He lost interest
because he couldn't have power over her. That's what happened
when she set her boundaries. He eventually slunk away. The
reason he wanted those photos not only to degrade milliate
expose her, have power over her, but if you're masturbating
to a photo, which is likely what you wanted those
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photos for. You are having a sexual experience with a
piece of pain.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Wait wait, I'm not following your train of thought.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
You've got Mica Miller in the next room, in the bedroom,
but you're saying he.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
If the hypothetical per man.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Is masturbating to a photo he's just gotten off of
a waitress at a restaurant that he's just met, why
would he want that instead of going to be with
his wife.
Speaker 13 (30:42):
Because when you relate to your wife, you have to
acknowledge that she's a full person with feelings, with thoughts, emotions.
Maybe a person who might say no sometimes, maybe a
person who wants to spend her own money. Maybe a
person who has friends wants to take a trip. Somebody
like this pastor can only relate to others on the
basis of power and control. He does not relate to
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people for who they are, as though their own individuals,
And that's how we get perversions. Nancy like voyeurism is
that the person can only get that sexual arousal by
a picture of a person or an idea of a person,
But they can't sit down at dinner with that person
and have a full conversation with them. They can't have
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a sexual interaction, and maybe they want to give the
other person an orgasm or want to please them or
relate to them as their own person. So that's why
he's procuring pictures. And I think that's why Micah God
rest her soul probably eventually took her life because she
was not a person to him anymore. She was just
an object like he was trying to turn the waitress
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into an object, and he broke her down, broke her down,
broke her down until eventually she imagined she had no
life and no future. And Nancy, that's where he was
going with this waitress. If she had said yes, what
could have happened to her? He could have stalked her too,
he could have broken her down, he could have alienated
her from other people, all the signs of abuse that
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we know about. But thank god, she had the preservation
of mind to say no, and she's stuck to it now.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
Everyone.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
John Paul Miller insists he's innocent and has nothing to
do with what happened to his wife. In fact, he
is remarried. He is innocent until proven guilty. He got
another woman to marry him. Dave Mac joining US Crime
Story's investigative reporter, along with Alexis Tereschuk joining US out
of LA tonight. Didn't John Paul Miller apologize for sending these?
(32:42):
I mean, if he's apologizing, doesn't that mean if he's
apologizing for doing it, doesn't that mean he did it?
Speaker 15 (32:48):
He apologized to Micah or posting photos of her on
that Facebook page.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Dave Mac, that is new information. It's critical for Chris
Melcher's theory. Are you telling me that John Paul Miller
the pastor apologizes to Micah. Do we have proof he
apologizes for posting the nude photos?
Speaker 15 (33:10):
Yeah, they actually uncovered the text message he center where
he said that he was evil for doing it.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Okay, Chris Melcher, Bye bye to one of your defenses.
It's not gonna happen, Chris Melcher, because one of your defenses,
and I'm sure you're.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Gonna pull another one out of your hat like a rabbit.
One of your defenses was, hey, maybe this was consensual.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
We don't know that, and she's dead and she can't
deny it.
Speaker 12 (33:50):
That's right, Nancy. If that text message is introduced into
evidence before a jury that would establish that he sent
the message, so there would be no question. And if
he admitted, if he apologized for sending it, that means
he sent it, so they get that element of it.
And then secondly that he's acknowledging that it's wrong. He
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says it was evil, so he would that it would
be basically game over on that one element. But I
still do see some potential defenses on the other things
that he's accused of.
Speaker 16 (34:24):
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sovery your life in Jesus Name, in Jesus' name, A
pray for your healing circumstances would change. I pray that
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the fear inside would flee in Jesus name. A pray
that prey through would happen today, A pre miracle, so
very Jesus name in Jesus' name.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
Imagine being married to that. It was like that in
our house all the time.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
And that hysterical laughing, it's almost maniacal.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
In the last.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
Hours, we are bringing you the indictment of John Paul Miller,
the pastor out of South Carolina. The grand jury has
met and has charged him with multiple counts in a
nutshell of alexis trustshut.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
What are the charges.
Speaker 7 (35:50):
There's a false statement which he made when he was
lying to the police officers about whether or not he
had contacted her over fifty times in one day, multiple times,
and then cyber stocking, where they said that he was
intentionally tracking her, that he put a GPS tracker on her,
and that he was using the computer in other ways
to follow her, and that he said that he did
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not deflate her tires, but they found that a deflation
device was used by him or someone that knows him
to deflate her tires. And he is facing quite a
few years in prison for this. The federal charges if
he has found guilty for cyber stalking, could be five years.
It could be between nine and ten years, depending on
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the charges that the jury decides that he's guilty of.
And then with the line to the police, that's also
another five years, possibly even eight years that he could
receive behind bars. So he could get almost twenty years
behind bars, he'd get a huge fine, and he could.
Speaker 8 (36:48):
Have to be on probation for many years.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
So we've got count one, which is cyber stalking, and
you're telling me he could be sentenced up to ten
years on that.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
Is that correct?
Speaker 8 (36:59):
Yes, it is absolutely correct.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
And in count two we've got false statements and that
could result in five years behind bars.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
Correct, Is that right?
Speaker 8 (37:11):
Yes, so we're looking.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
At a potential of fifteen years if the charges are
run consecutively.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
Back to Christiana joining.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
Us, who says she was approached by John Paul Miller
who begged for nudes relentlessly. Christiana, when you heard the
actual charges against John Paul Miller, who remains innocent tonight
as we go to air, he is presumed innocent under
the law. He says, he's innocent, and he will be
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innocent until he has proven guilty in a court of law.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
Christiana, when you.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Heard the actual charges of cyberstalking and lying, did that
surprise you?
Speaker 6 (37:52):
I think a lot of us would like to hear
a bit more than that. But in South Carolina it's
the precedent for domestic violence. I in my own experience,
I was told by a solicitor that you have to
be essentially beaten to a bloody pulp to get a
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domestic violence conviction. So it's not surprising to me that
they don't always put the highest charges on these people,
and I can't imagine the hopelessness that Micah would have felt,
especially with her abuser being in a position of authority.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Dave Mac joining us a Crime Story's investigative reporter. What
was the reaction from his flock at his church after
Micah was found dead?
Speaker 3 (38:45):
Nancy?
Speaker 15 (38:45):
It was a divided block, Okay, when his wife is
found dead. Half of the church immediately thought something was
seriously wrong with this and they demanded justice. As a
matter of fact, there were two separate funerals or celebration
of life service, whatever you want to call it. One
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group did it where he was not invited, and then
John Paul did it one in his own you know,
a solid rock. So yeah, it divided the church immediately.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
Well, there were many many protests against John Paul Miller
at the time. Listen that from the Robbie Harvey on
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X and Melissa Pfeiffer. Another question, Dave Mac and alexis
t restaurant first toy you, Alexis is it true another
woman has actually married him?
Speaker 1 (40:05):
Is this his third wife?
Speaker 7 (40:07):
Yes, it is true they got married and in fact
she had a husband who died tragically in twenty twenty one.
He was a quadriplegic and he drowned, so terrible tragedy.
And then when she became known publicly that she was
with him, with John Paul Miller, people started questioning this
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man's death and investigating, saying maybe there was something going
on that this was but they did rule out that
any foul play happened. That he did just tragically drown
so neither one of them has his thouse anymore.
Speaker 8 (40:38):
And they got married.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
Okay, wait a minute, so he John Paul Miller marries
the woman.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
Was she a member of his church?
Speaker 8 (40:47):
Yes, she and her husband were.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
And the husband is a quadriplegic and he somehow ends
up in a pool and drowns. Dave mack were there
claims that these two were having an affair before her
husband's death.
Speaker 15 (41:04):
Absolutely. The actual accusation came from JP Miller's first wife,
Alice and Williams. She claims that Susie and that Susie
Skinner was involved romantically with JP. And by the way,
the day that Chris Skinner's wheelchair, you know, if you
actually see the video, Nancy, his wheelchair just guns it
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right towards the pool. This is a pool that he
fought over the homeowners association putting in a wheelchair lift
so he could actually utilize the pool. And that's the
pool he drowns in. And it's really weird how that happened.
But when they find his body in the pool, Susie
Skinner goes over and tells fire guys, hey man, he
has a do not resuscitate order because they pulled him out.
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He was not dead in the pool. They pulled him
out of the water and there the paramedics are like, well,
you got to show us the paperwork, and she leaves
and doesn't come back in time, and of course they
had taken him to the hospital by then. But then
she doesn't go to the hospital right away. She actually
hangs out and waits for John Paul Miller and his
wife Micah and stays with them for a few hours
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before finally going to the hospital hours later, where she
goes and visits her now husband at the hospital. So
there's a whole lot more to this story than meets
the eye, which is why after Micah Miller's death they
did bring this back out and started investigating the death
of Chris Skinner.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
Let's be clear about this.
Speaker 2 (42:28):
Dave mac John Paul Miller is not accused or suspected
in the death of his now wife's dead husband.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
Is that correct? He's not suspected.
Speaker 15 (42:36):
Absolutely, No, he's not suspected in any way.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
And neither is she.
Speaker 10 (42:41):
Nope, neither is she.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
Okay, But one of the consequences of his death, in
the aftermath of his death in the pool, these two got.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
Married, right.
Speaker 10 (42:52):
Absolutely, that's correct, okay, And I.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
Also want to stress again, John Paul Miller is resumed
innocent of any and all charges.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
Yes, he has just been indicted by.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
The FEDS two counts cyberstalking and false statement, but he
remains innocent until proven guilty. As of tonight, he is innocent.
If you know or think you know anything about this case,
please call Robinson County Sheriff's nine one zero six thirty
(43:28):
one hundred nine one zero six thirty one hundred. We
remember an American hero, Sheriff Alan Weber Gove County Sheriffs, Kansas,
killed in the line of duty, leaving behind a wife
turned widow and three children.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
American hero Sheriff Allan
Speaker 2 (43:47):
Nancy Grace signing off
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