August 23, 2025 • 39 mins
Prosecutors have already implicated Jasveen Sangha, known as the "Ketamine Queen," who sold the drug involved in Matthew Perry's death, and now her guilty plea proves her involvement.
She is also connected to other customer deaths, and prosecutors believe there are likely more victims given the volume of drugs Sangha sold. Sangha remains in custody without bond in connection with Perry's death. Drug dealer Eric Fleming, who reportedly served as a program director at the Bel-Air rehab Red Door, also had a resident die of an overdose while under his watch.
Additionally, Brooke Mueller’s close connections to suspects Fleming and Sangha have emerged. Mueller spent time with Sangha during one of her rehab stints, and Fleming is reportedly a godfather to one of Mueller’s children.
Mueller is said to have pressured her then-boyfriend William Cooney to join Fleming’s rehab program, where Cooney overdosed and died. Mueller may have introduced Fleming and Sangha to Perry as a means to facilitate his addiction. Federal prosecutors report that Mueller is cooperating with the investigation and is not facing any charges.
Court documents reveal the close ties between Sangha, Fleming, and assistant Kenneth Iwamasa. Iwamasa told Fleming he "cleaned up the scene" by disposing of ketamine vials and syringes and "deleted everything."
Fleming then informed Sangha that he believed they were protected since he never dealt with Perry directly, only through Iwamasa, who would be considered Perry's "enabler." In their communications, Sangha and Fleming refer to Perry using the code name "Chandler."
Sangha's sentencing is still ahead.
Joining Nancy Grace Today:
- Rowena Chiu - Activist and Former Assistant to Harvey Weinstein; New York Times Guest Essay Author: “I Was A Celebrity Assistant. The Power Imbalance Is Very Real.”
- Dr. Bethany Marshall – Psychoanalyst; Instagram & TikTok: @drbethanymarshall, X: @DrBethanyLive, Appearing in the latest season of “Paris in Love” on Peacock – BOOK: “Deal Breaker: When to work on a relationship and when to walk away”, Xr:@DrBethanyLive
- Mike McCormick – Owner and Lead Investigator of M.C.M. Investigations (Los Angeles); Former LAPD Detective for over 25 years (worked Gangs for 5 years); Facebook: MCM Investigations
- Dr.Todd Barr - Board-Certified Anatomic/Clinical/Forensic Pathologist, Testified in Shawn Grate serial killer case; Featured in "Thin Places: Essays From In Between" by Jordan Kisner
- Kayla Brantley – Reporter-At-Large for DailyMail.com, X: @_KaylaBrantley, Instagram: @KaylaBrantley
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Bombshell Tonight, the so called Ketamine Queen, a jet setter
out of la accused of selling Friends superstar Matthew Perry
a fatal dose of ketamine that killed him. Now guilty.
I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. I want to
thank you for being with us this after the so
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called Ketamine Queen denies she even knew Matthew Perry.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
What a liar.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
In the last hours, we learn Javen Sanghaj is the
only one left standing after the death of beloved Friends
star Matthew Perry. For other defendants have reached guilty plea
agreements with the prosecutors, and I don't like any of them.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
They're much too lenient. But Ketamine Queen guilty. Listen.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
In a stunning admission that rips the mask off a
Hollywood drug ring, Jasvine Sangha, the notorious Ketamine Queen, has
confessed to peddling the lethal dose of the drug that
killed the beloved Friend's icon. The bombshell guilty plea, filed
in federal court on Monday, August eighteenth, marks the final
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and most damning chapter in the legal fallout from the
star's untimely demise, sparing Sangha a trial. Known to millions
for his role as chandler bing on the hit NBC
sitcom Friends, Perry had long struggled with addiction. The fifty
four year old was discovered lifeless in the hot tub
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of his Pacific Palisades home on October twenty eighth, twenty
twenty three, leaving a gaping void in the hearts of
millions of fans. The medical examiner ruled that ketamine, typically
used as a surgical anesthetic, was the primary cause of death.
While the star had a legal prescription for the drug
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to treat his depression, he turned to the shadows when
his supply ran low. Prosecutors charge that Sangha fueled his addiction,
meeting him just four days before his death to sell
him twenty five vials of ketamine for six thousand bucks cash.
Here's US attorney Martin Estrada at a previous news conference.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
We charge five defendants in this matter. These defendants took
advantage of mister Perry's addiction issues to enrich themselves. They
knew what they were doing was wrong. They knew what
they were doing was risking great danger to mister Perry,
but they did it anyways.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Sang Ha, forty two, is facing up to forty five
years behind bars for her part in the star's death.
She pleaded guilty to a slew of charges, including conspiracy
to distribute ketamine, maintaining a drug involved premises, possession with
intent to distribute methem fetamine and ketamine, and five counts
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of ketamine distribution, with one charge directly tied to Perry's death.
She has been behind bars since her arrest in August
twenty twenty four, a culmination of an intensive federal investigation
that unraveled a sophisticated network preying on Hollywood's vulnerable elite.
Her plea hearing and sentencing are set to take place
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in the coming weeks. The drug ring exploited Perry's struggles
with addiction, with Sangha and doctor Salvador Placentia at its core.
Sangha became the fifth and final defendant to strike a
plea agreement with federal prosecutors. Placentia had already pleaded guilty
to ketymine distribution in June, and other key players, including
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Perry's assistant Kenneth Iwamasa, friend Eric Fleming, and doctor Mark Chavez,
took their own Plea deals to cooperate against Sangha. Text
messages cited in court documents painted a picture of Sangha's
illicit operation with Fleming, gushing to Ewo Masa that her
ketamine was quote unquote amazing and tailored for quote high
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end and celebs. On the day of Perry's death, Sangha
allegedly told Fleming to delete their text messages, a calculated
move to cover her tracks. A March twenty twenty four
raid on Sangha's North Hollywood home unearthed a massive stash
of ketamine, methamphetamine, and other illicit drugs, solidifying her role
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as a major dealer with sanghas plea. The case takes
a definitive turn toward closure, though none of the five
defendants have yet been sentenced for their crimes.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Here a few facts that could jog your recollection.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
The so called Ketamine Queen who sales Friends star Matthew
Perry that deadly dose of ketamine, making a bill in
exchange for what.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
Did the drug dealer dub The Ketamine Queen refer to
Matthew Perry by his friend's character name, and.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
That would be his affinity.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Matthew Perry's affinity with Batman and he would call himself Mattman.
But according to sources, the so called Ketamine Queen Jasvine
Songhaar referred to him as Chandler in their texts and
emails when they would talk about drugs and drug deliveries
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code named Chandler. Wow, that was a toughie with me
an All Star panel, but let's just go back to
reality listen.
Speaker 6 (05:46):
Federal prosecutors allege that Perry first obtains ketamine from an
unscrupulous doctor aiming to take advantage of the actor's addiction issues.
Doctor Salvador Placentia teaches Perry's living assistant, Kenneth Ewa Massa,
how to administer the drug and provides ketamine to both
Perry and Ewamasa at exorbitant prices. When the drugs become
too expensive, Perry and Ewamasa turned to street dealers, including
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Jazzvin's songha dubbed the Ketamine Queen.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
What a very dear and intimate friend of Matthew Perry
says she doesn't think that ketamine is the cause of death.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Why and what would be the cause of death?
Speaker 2 (06:24):
And what leads her to say that this is what
the medical examiner has to.
Speaker 7 (06:29):
Say the Los Angeles Medical Examiner determined that fifty four
year old Matthew Perry died from the acute effects of ketamine.
Other contributing factors listed were drowning, coronary artery disease, and
the effects of buprenorphine. Buprenorphine is used to treat opioid
use disorder. The manner of death has been ruled an accident.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Joining us an all star panel to make sense of
what we're learning right now, but with me a special guest.
Rowena Chew, activist and former assistant to Harvey Weinstein. His
name tastes like dirt in my mouth. Convicted on multiple rapes,
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and she has just written a New York Times guest essay,
I was a celebrity assistant.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
The power in balance is very real. Rowenach you thank
you for being with us. I enjoyed your article.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
I read it several times over and I try to
compare what you're saying and your situation with Harvey Weinstein.
May he rot in hell two Matthew Perry's assistant number one.
Matthew Perry was not a criminal. I was not a
rapist number one. But you point out assistants often do
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things that are let me just say, legally and ethically questionable.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
In your case, what does that mean? In my case?
Speaker 8 (08:00):
I worked for Harvey for only a couple of months,
and so I didn't have the opportunity to do things
that were ethically and legally immoral. But I was making
the point that the power imbalance is so huge that
assistants don't get the chance to say no.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
You also pointed out a quote that compared assistance that
may do illegal acts or unethical acts to the guards
at astwards that they knew what was happening was wrong,
And you make a very subtle yet important distinction explaining.
Speaker 9 (08:42):
Comparison was really with.
Speaker 8 (08:44):
Ordinary folks that lived in Nazi Germany, whether or not
you can hold them accountable for the events that happened
in the country. So I'm really making a point about
bystanders that don't have any real power themselves, and they
are essentially visible, or they don't have an identity of
their own, and they don't have the autonomy to make decisions.
And so I feel that celebrity assistance I also called
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them Butler's. I constantly felt that I was invisible, I
had no autonomy. Frequently didn't really have a name of
my own. I would call people up and stay, I'm
calling from Harvey Weinstein's office, but I wouldn't mention my
own name because I was add insignificant. So when you're
in a power balance where you're that insignificant, I think
it is incredibly difficult to be then thrust into the
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spotlight and held responsible for something as serious as somebody's death.
I think that I am attempting to shed light on
the fact that Kenneth Iwamasa may have had absolutely zero
choice in a way that the ordinary person can't understand.
He was a living assistant. The power and balance would
have been enormous.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
At the end of your article, I noted that you
stated it is often too easy to turn the butler
into the goat. Do you believe that Matthew Perri's assisted
who injected him with that deadly does.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Is a scape gut.
Speaker 8 (10:13):
I think he might have been put in an incredibly
difficult situation. Not only was his employment on the line,
but likely his involvement in the industry as a whole.
It could have been that he did not have another residence,
and so as a living assistant, you know, really there's
a power back dynamic on many different levels. I also
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think in the Weinstein case at least, that there were
many circles of power, enablement and entitlement that were far
more deserving of perhaps the legal system going after than assistants.
You know, for example, how the Weinstein had accountants and
board members that certainly knew of what was happening. So
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I think the assistants. I'm merely making the point that
the assistants, I suppose, are the lowest rung on the ladder,
and I think to hold them accountable and responsible for
the actions taken by a celebrity, it doesn't take into
account the enormous power difference between a celebrity and his assistant.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Rowena che Is joining US activist former assistant to Harvey Weinstein,
who has just written a guest essay for The Times
titled I was a celebrity assistant. The power and balance
is very real miss to I deeply respect you and
what you have to say and your viewpoint, and I
highly highly disagree with you in your case or some
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other assistants, not necessarily Weinstein's other assistants. Comparing that to
what Iro Massa did in Perry's case, knowing that he
had had seizures just sixteen days where he was unable
to move or speak after ketamine injection, knowing that I
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consider this much much more serious.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
But I'll circle back to you.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Missed you in just one moment, and again, I do
appreciate what you're saying, but I find it vastly, vastly
different than the case of Matthew Perry's assistant.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Speaking of the facts, let's go to kill a.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Brantley joining us investigative reporter. What I find very interesting
right now is that it's all business as usual. Matthew
Perry dies in the hot tub with a fatal overdose.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
The doctor is already back at work.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Taking patients like nothing happened. He had to put up
like one hundred thousand dollars bond. Really that's ten thousand dollars,
and regular people talk you put up ten percent.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
He's gone, he's out.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
The so called ketamine queen has not been sentenced.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
The assistant, Kenneth Ewamasa, has not been sentenced. Why I
think that the Feds.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Have you ever seen a cat with a little mouse,
just back and forth and back and forth until it
bites its head off.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
I think that's what the FEDS are doing right now.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
They're playing toying with the various defendants in order to
get them to talk to name other celebrity doctors and
other pill meals headed by doctors in LA and other celebrities.
I think that's what's happening. But to you, Kiln Brandley,
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Daily Mail, tell me the latest. We've got the doctor
back to work. A lot of people haven't been sentenced.
The other celebrity doctors, including one that just got shot
in the last day of Celebrity Doctor. He was assassinated
in his parking lot.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Following all of the.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Drama surrounding Matthew Perry's death and what's being uncovered, Hamid
Mereshow Jay was shot in his parking lot. He was
a celeb doctor focusing on addiction. We now have identified
two potential victims, other victims of the Ketemine Queen.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Both dead crime stories with Nancy Grace.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
The Ketemine Queen, one of the two biggest targets in
the investigation of Matthew Perry's death, along with the doctor,
doctor Salvador Placentia, who just played guilty to Ketymine distribution.
Oh yeah, he got a light deal Now, remember Matthew
Perry's personal assistant, his friend and another doctor also took
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guilty please and are cooperating. You know what that means.
They're going to rat her out. What more do we
know about the case against the so called ketamine queen.
Speaker 5 (14:47):
You only die when you use needles. Matthew Perry's ex
makes a shocking claim about his needle phobia, casting doubt
on his ketamine death.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Me psychoanalyst to the Stars, doctor Bethany Marshall, author of
deal Breaker, and you can also see her on peacock
and find her at doctor Bethanymarshall dot com dot Bethany.
I want to circle back with you about this doctor.
This doctor knew very well that Matthew Perry had actually
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seized up. In other words, he could not speak or
move for an extended period of time to sixteen days
before he died. Yet everything was business as usual.
Speaker 10 (15:34):
Listen details of Perry's last days in a federal indictment
reveal it was very clear to doctor Placentia that Perry's
ketemine injections were causing a total loss of awareness. The
indictment documents three separate occasions where Perry froze up after
receiving the medication, with Placentia commenting, let's not do that again.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
Defendant Placenta knew full well the danger of what he
was doing. In fact, on one occasion, he injected mister
Perry with ketemine and he saw mister Perry freeze up
and his blood pressure spike. Despite that, he left additional
vials of ketamine for defendant Iwamasa to administer to mister Perry.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Joining me, Todd Barr, Doctor Todd Barr Board certified anatomic
clinical forensic pathologist.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
I'm very curious.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Oh yes, he's also featured in Thin Places Essays Essays.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
From in Between doctor, thank you for being with us.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
I've been researching and investigating what exactly happened to Matthew
Perry when.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
He quote froze.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
That's hardly a medical description, but I've learned that there
was apparently a significant spike in his systolic blood blood pressure.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
What does high nancy? Thank you?
Speaker 11 (17:02):
So a spike in his systolic blood pressure just means
that he is having a hypertensive crisis. His blood pressure
is elevated to a point.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Kay, right there, right there? What do you mean hypertensive crisis.
Speaker 11 (17:16):
That means his blood pressure is at a high level,
such a high level that it could cause death. I mean,
people die from extreme fluctuations in their blood pressure. Blood
pressure is supposed to live in an average, in a
normal range. If you get too high, it's hypertensive. If
you get too low, it's hypotensive. And either of those
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hyper or hypo can cause death.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
So when he quote froze up, what does that indicate
to you? Is that some sort of a stroke or
a near stroke? What's a systolic spike in blood pressure?
Speaker 11 (17:54):
I would say the term froze up to me sounds
more like a seizure like activity, like a tonic chlonic
seizure where the muscles contract and you get into this
Ketamine is actually known for its anti convulsive properties. It's
used to treat seizures, but in high doses it can
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actually cause seizures. And as we know by the reports
that are out there, mister Perry was administered extremely high
doses of this this drug, ketamine, which is an anesthetic drug.
He was actually found with the levels that were compatible
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with surgery, and that you know, anesthesia that you would
need for surgical procedures.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
It reminds me a great deal of Conrad Murray injecting
Michael Jackson with propofol, and it took you know, hell
and high water to get Conrad Murray charged convicted, but
even that conviction was not enough to send sufficient shot
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waves through the celebrity doctor network in Hollywood.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
And now Matthew Perry is dead.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
You know it's Cala Brandtley's joining me investigative reporter with
the Daily Mail. Kella, I understand that the doctor would
provide the medication, the ketamine, along with Kenemine queen for
the assistant to make at home ketamine injections. Now, I
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heard what Rowena Chu said that the power balance is
way off, But shouldn't you know instinctively, especially after Perry
was having seizures just days before that you should not
be injecting ketamine to.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Matthew Perry at home.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
I mean, this assistant needs to be in jail along
with the doctor and the ketamine queen, the straight supplier.
They all need to be in jail and we need
to know their sentences. So what's happening, cal I don't
understand what's the hold of right?
Speaker 9 (20:13):
Well, Nanthy, I also want to break down exactly how
much ketymine was distributed to Matthew Perry. The doctors Chavis
and Placentia distributed twenty vials of ketymine to Perry for
fifty five thousand dollars in cash. That's charging him two
thousand dollars for a vial, and that vile cost doctor
chav Is just twelve dollars. So you can imagine how
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much money they were making off Perry. And that's the
point that the prosecutors were making. Now, the Kedemy Queen Sanga,
she sold about fifty vials of the drugs to Perry
with Flemming delivering the product that they're Flemming the Hollywood producer,
and they sold it to him for eleven thousand dollars.
So these people were making a lot of money off
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of Perry's addiction, and they clearly knew, as.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
You said, seezing up.
Speaker 9 (21:00):
And then you had the person who was injecting him,
who was his trusted assistant.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
They distributed approximately twenty vials of ketamine to mister Perry
in exchange for fifty five thousand dollars in cash. Defendant
Placentia saw this as an opportunity to profit off of
mister Perry. He wrote in a text message in September
twenty twenty three, quote, I wonder how much this moron
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will pay. He also stated in text messages that he
wanted to be mister.
Speaker 5 (21:32):
Perry's sole source of supply.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
He wrote in a text message that he wanted to
be mister Perry's quote go to for drugs.
Speaker 5 (21:41):
Matthew Perry's assistant allegedly found Perry in similar circumstances two
times in the same week of his tragic.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Death, joining us Rowena Chew, former assistant to Harvey Weinstein,
who just wrote a New York Times guest essay, I
was a celebrity assistant.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
The power imbalance is very real.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
You just heard other examples that celebrity assistants have named.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Do you believe that.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
In this case the assistant is being scapegoated or do
you believe he is rightfully being prosecuted as it relates
to Matthew Perry's death.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
I do believe he's being scapegoated.
Speaker 8 (22:22):
I mean, we just heard about how other players in
this system are making insane amounts of money, and I
asked you to think about what does the assistants stand
again in that equation.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
What does the money have to do with it?
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Rowena, Would it make it okay if he was paid
more money?
Speaker 8 (22:39):
Oh no, absolutely not. I'm not saying that anybody was
doing anything right. However, there's a big difference between the
amounts of money the doctors and the drug dealers were
making and what did the assistants stand. Again, I believe
the assistant was just trying to survive. He wasn't making
staggering amounts of money, and so therefore his incentive to
do what he did was very different from the doctors
and the drug dealers out there trying to get something
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for himself. He was merely trying to survive his job.
There's a big difference in that.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
So you believe the difference, and whether he should be
held criminally culpable is whether he was getting paid for
shooting Matthew Perry up to his death.
Speaker 8 (23:16):
I don't think that there's a huge incentive for him
to push this agenda, and therefore I don't believe that
he was pushing the agenda. He was merely doing what
he was told to do under incredibly strenuous circumstances. So
I'm merely saying that as a point of coercion. The
assistant is not really this person who should be skapgoted
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that there are layers of privilege and abuse of power
that are far greater than that. And you know, we
can easily point to doctors and drug dealers who were
making vast amounts of money and had a huge incentive
to push this kind of an agenda.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Mike McCormick joining me, Lean, investigator of MCUM Investigations in Hollywood.
Mike McCormick, Oh, respector Rowen and Chew, But I think
that's completely I don't.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Agree at all.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Everybody in Hollywood is making money off celebs.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Celebs are making money off the studios.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
The studios are making money off us and advertisers.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
That's how it works in Hollywood.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
It's like one bloodsucker sucking on the next bloodsucker, just
like ticks, you know, stuck to the animal. But Mike McCormick,
what do you make of what Rowena is saying that
the assistant is the scapegoat. I think they should all
be put in the same pot to boil and all
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be tried together.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
As it relates to Perry's death.
Speaker 12 (24:40):
Well, I don't think the assistant is being scapegoaded. I
just think he was being more loyal, just doing what
what the boss wanted him to do. It had nothing
to do with money, was job security and loyalty.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Okay, hold on to some moment, doctor Manthony Marshall. Maybe
I'm not articulating my point that, well, the assistant lives
in a mansion, he makes plenty of money, he rubs
elbows with all of the stars, he drives a beautiful
luxury car. Maybe I'm not understanding his poor conditions. I
don't see it, Nancy.
Speaker 13 (25:20):
I have a unique perspective on this because these assistants
sometimes come to my office. One in particular was the
major domo for one of the wealthiest men in the
world and had to stand around serving palomas to the
family all day long alcoholic beverages, and he became so
disgusted because one of the family members was drunk all
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day long.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
He was traumatized.
Speaker 13 (25:43):
He came to therapy and said, I just cannot do
this anymore, and he left the job. So, yes, these
assistants are vulnerable in the sense that they often do
things they don't want to do, but they do have
agency in the world. And I think in particular when
you are potentially committing homicide. That's a breach of duty,
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that's lack of judgment that a ten year old knows
not to do.
Speaker 11 (26:12):
Right.
Speaker 13 (26:13):
We just know basically, you don't kill somebody if you
administer a drug. They sees you don't administer the drug. Again,
I mean, I'm sorry, but this assistant could have gone
and worked at a bar, would probably I would prefer
to scrub floors than to inject somebody with a substance
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that could kill them. It is just common sense. Of course,
there's a power imbalance. Of course, there's a power in
balance in life for all of.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Us, exactly, you know, Caleb Brandtley, I want to follow
up on what doctor Bethany's saying. Caleb Brantley joining us
from Daily Mail call, and we understand that Matthew Perry's
mansion is being renovated, especially around the hot tub, the
pool area where he died. Seems as if for Hollywood,
including the prosecutors, it's just business as usual. There are
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no sentences on the people that have agreed to plead guilty.
It just seems as if everyone's acting as though nothing happened.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Matthew Perry is dead.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
These people, according to the FEDS, are responsible. Why aren't
they behind bars Killa And what if anything, can you
tell me about when these people are going to jail?
Speaker 1 (27:33):
And one other question.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Apparently one of Perry's intimate friends states that he Perry
was deathly afraid of needles and she is questioning the
real cod Keilla listen.
Speaker 6 (27:51):
One of Perry's former assistants and ex girlfriend, Katie Edwards,
says she does not believe Perry could have possibly been
taking ketamine. Edwards describes Perry's in tense fear of needles,
saying he wouldn't even consider a tattoo due to the phobia.
Edwards was no stranger to Perry's addiction and told him
he would die in an argument over his drug use.
Perry's response quote, you only die when you use needles,
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and I would never ever do that.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Caleb Brantley, what about it?
Speaker 2 (28:16):
This person an intimate friend of Perry's raising the specter
up another cood cause of death.
Speaker 9 (28:23):
I understand that, Nancy, But it was Katie Edwards. She
dated him back in two thousand and six, worked as
an assistant until like twenty eleven, so while they were
still friends, they hadn't dated in a while, and I
understand that she said that he had a fear of this.
But Matthew Perry himself had written in his book about
these kenemine infusions that he was taking and how it
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felt and how it was helping him. So I personally
am not so sure of that theory. And you do
have his assistant and everyone basically admitting to injecting him.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Crime stories with Nancy Grace, Oh yeah, people think she's beautiful,
she's glamorous.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
She posts all sorts of really really.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Refined photos and videos on her social media. But the
so called Ketamine Queen Jazzavin sayingha is nothing more but
a dope dealer.
Speaker 5 (29:29):
The Fed say there are likely more victims of the
infamous ketamine Queen.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Apparently, celebrities and celebrity doctors alike across Hollywood are quaking
in their boots, afraid that the so called ketamine Queen
is going to rat them out in exchange for a
sweethearted deal from the Feds. The so called ketamine Queen,
the one that supplied Matthew Perry the deadly dose of
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ketamine that ended in his death. Are there other victims?
Speaker 10 (30:05):
Yes, Listen Jasvien Sogha sells Cody mclowery several vials of ketamine.
Later that same day, mclowry's family finds him dead. A
family member tells Sangha her ketamine caused mclowry's overdose death,
and Songha googles can ketamine be listed as a cause
of death?
Speaker 6 (30:23):
There are likely more victims. Eric Fleming, who reportedly acted
as a program director at the bell Air Rehab Red Door,
also had a resident die on his watch. William Cooney,
thirty six, was found dead of a fentyl overdose in
his bathroom at the facility.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
So those are two alleged victims. Two more victims of
the ketamine Queen. That makes three if those two victims
are to be believed. In fact, Cody's family is speaking
out against the ketamine Queen and.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
Is she talking?
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Is she making a deal with the fedes to get
a light sentence and extra change for ratting out other
solibs and other doctors. Man, she needs a lot of
money to support this lifestyle. So what is the connection
between the ketemine Queen and the other alleged victims?
Speaker 1 (31:16):
All dead?
Speaker 14 (31:17):
Coming to light are brog Mueller's deep ties to suspects
Flemming and Songha. Mueller spent time with Songhai in one
of her many rehab stands, and Fleming is reportedly a
godfather to one of Mueller's children. Mueller reportedly pressured then
boyfriend William Cooney to join her at pal Fleming's rehab program,
where Cooney overdosed and died. Mueller may well have introduced
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Fleming and Songha to Perry as shortcuts to feed his addiction.
Federal prosecutors report that Mueller is cooperating with the investigation
and is not facing any charges.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Let me understand, CALEA.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Brantley joining us from dailymail dot com, the so called
Ketamine queen Songha meets up with who and rehab? Let
me say, is Britton Mueller, who apparently was very close
to Matthew Perry. Now how does that connect and to
Songhaw the dealer.
Speaker 9 (32:08):
Well, all roads are kind of leading back to Jazzmine Sogha,
the Kennymine Queen. She was a supplier of multiple people.
And now we do find this connection between Brooke Mueller,
who spent time with Matthew Perry in rehab. They were
close friends. And then we have Eric Cumming, who was
a director at the rehab center where this man William
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Cooney had passed away. So this all is a circular
connection of going back to Sangha and I'm have been
on the radar for a while. Back in March twenty
twenty four, the FED raided her house and they called
it a drug imporium, these seventy nine bottles that some
had tested positive for kennymine. So this is no surprise
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that Jazzmine Sanga is involved in this Matthew Perry case.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Now two more alleged victims of this woman living the
high life that supplied the deadly dose to Matthew Perry.
Now would he be her third victim? Why has it
taken that to bring her to justice? Are those investigations ongoing?
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Now?
Speaker 2 (33:20):
This by far is not the first time a celebrity
has died with enablers circling them like vultures.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Listen now, I want.
Speaker 15 (33:29):
To heard of three.
Speaker 5 (33:31):
How are you doing?
Speaker 15 (33:31):
It's the security from Beverly Hilton, All right, what conor?
I need a paramedic. Apparently I got a forty thy
curial female I'm found in the bathroom to a fellow
guy right now. But they're requesting paramedic crew. Okay, par
fellow about them and I love rim Cantal. I'm not
sure if she fellow. She was in the bathroom with
the water four four four threepole. I'm sorry that the
room four three fourth yet. Okay, they're not quet for
anything else.
Speaker 13 (33:49):
There's room four three.
Speaker 15 (33:50):
Four thirty four. Yeah, okay, you don't know see a
country of reathing at all. Apparently she wasn't breathing, and
she's toy secured she was not breathing.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
But he Houston surrounded by enablers. Ultimately it cost her
her life. Then there is John Belushi, one of the
greatest comedians that ever lived. He was shot up with
drugs at the Chateau Marmont and his assistant did hard
jail time after shooting him up. Bobby Christina Whitney's daughter
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od It goes on and on and on. Of course,
Michael Jackson, Aaron Carter, Chris Farley went to rehab sixteen times.
His younger brother finds him dead in his apartment. Of course,
Prince died a deadly opioid injection. Goes all the way
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back to Elvis, China, Amy Winehouse and a Nicole spiraled
down a drug hole, while everyone supported that and enabled her.
Kurt Cobain, River Phoenix. It goes on and on, and
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the enablers are never brought to justice. Joining me an
all star panel to make sense of what we know
right now? Do you believe, Cala Brantley that this signals
the beginning of a celebrity a celebrity doctor cracked down.
Speaker 9 (35:20):
I think it's very possible, Nancy, especially now that we
have people who are making Klea feels. You could see
them speak and tell you know their networks of people
and connections, and this could be the craft out at
the beginning of a bunch of doctors who are prescribing
people deadly, deadly medications. We have from the pleas so far,
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people admitting, including his assistant, to covering up and cleaning
up this scene by getting rid of syringes and ketamine
vials that's according to the pre agreement, and telling each
other to delete things. So we see an orchestrated system
from these people who are trying to get away with
clearly knowing that they did something wrong.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
To Todd Barr joining us doctor Barr, Board certified and
atomic clinical forensic pathologist, Doctor Barr, what do you notice
about the death certificate.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
So, Nancy, I.
Speaker 11 (36:15):
Have a lot of real issues with the way this
case was decided. As a forensic expert, I have been
involved in prosecutions of crimes that involved other people distributing
or administering drugs to a victim. The very definition of
a homicide is death at the hands of another period,
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whether it's by omission or comission. In this case, comission.
They brought in drugs, they injected them into Matthew Perry's body.
They should be charged with a homicide. They should be
charged with murder straight up, everyone that's involved. Now, the
second part of this is the official cause of death
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was listed as the acute effects of ketamine, and then
other conditions or contributing conditions included drowning. Now, there are
certain stigmata of drowning that you see at autopsy. If
those are present, then a drowning occurred. So Matthew Perry's
death is literally because of drowning. But then there's a
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part b or drowning due to the intoxicating effects of ketamine.
So he was so dissociative and esthetized that he slipped
under the water. If they're going to list drowning as
a contributing factor. Then that means they had evidence that
he drowned, so it should have been listed as a
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drowning Number one due to the effects of ketamine, and
the manner of death should have been listed as homicide.
So I have a very strong opinion about the way
this death certificate was worded, and I believe that sometimes
when it's worded this way, defendants get off a lot easier. Now,
I don't know if in LA they have something going
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where they were these death certificates in a way, so
people get off a little easier.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
But that's my take too.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
Rowena Toe joining us former assistant to Harvey Weinstein now activists,
who has just written a New York Times guest essay
called I was a celebrity assistant. The power and balance
is a very real thought to you, Rowena, what do
you make of it all?
Speaker 8 (38:25):
I think there are levels of power that we could
go after that are much more intense than that of
the assistant. I think the assistant, being the lowest run
on the ladder, probably is the last person that anyone
should go after because he has read his little autonomy.
I'm not saying that no one should be held accountable.
I'm saying that there are levels of power above him
that should be accountable before he is.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
Saying her know to all of our customers. As the quote,
ketymine queen, Now that's certainly something you.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
Don't want in your scrapbook.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
It's charged with five counts of ketemine distribution, including one
count of distribution that results in death, the death of
Matthew Perry. She pled guilty in his PS Friends reruns
are on all the time. Everyone knows about Matthew Perry
and his death thanks to the Ketamine Queen and all
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of the enablers around Perry.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
We wait as justice unfolds. Goodbye, friend,
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Bombshell Tonight, the so called Ketamine Queen, a jet setter
out of la accused of selling Friends superstar Matthew Perry
a fatal dose of ketamine that killed him. Now guilty.
I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. I want to
thank you for being with us this after the so
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called Ketamine Queen denies she even knew Matthew Perry.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
What a liar.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
In the last hours, we learn Javen Sanghaj is the
only one left standing after the death of beloved Friends
star Matthew Perry. For other defendants have reached guilty plea
agreements with the prosecutors, and I don't like any of them.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
They're much too lenient. But Ketamine Queen guilty. Listen.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
In a stunning admission that rips the mask off a
Hollywood drug ring, Jasvine Sangha, the notorious Ketamine Queen, has
confessed to peddling the lethal dose of the drug that
killed the beloved Friend's icon. The bombshell guilty plea, filed
in federal court on Monday, August eighteenth, marks the final
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and most damning chapter in the legal fallout from the
star's untimely demise, sparing Sangha a trial. Known to millions
for his role as chandler bing on the hit NBC
sitcom Friends, Perry had long struggled with addiction. The fifty
four year old was discovered lifeless in the hot tub
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of his Pacific Palisades home on October twenty eighth, twenty
twenty three, leaving a gaping void in the hearts of
millions of fans. The medical examiner ruled that ketamine, typically
used as a surgical anesthetic, was the primary cause of death.
While the star had a legal prescription for the drug
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to treat his depression, he turned to the shadows when
his supply ran low. Prosecutors charge that Sangha fueled his addiction,
meeting him just four days before his death to sell
him twenty five vials of ketamine for six thousand bucks cash.
Here's US attorney Martin Estrada at a previous news conference.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
We charge five defendants in this matter. These defendants took
advantage of mister Perry's addiction issues to enrich themselves. They
knew what they were doing was wrong. They knew what
they were doing was risking great danger to mister Perry,
but they did it anyways.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Sang Ha, forty two, is facing up to forty five
years behind bars for her part in the star's death.
She pleaded guilty to a slew of charges, including conspiracy
to distribute ketamine, maintaining a drug involved premises, possession with
intent to distribute methem fetamine and ketamine, and five counts
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of ketamine distribution, with one charge directly tied to Perry's death.
She has been behind bars since her arrest in August
twenty twenty four, a culmination of an intensive federal investigation
that unraveled a sophisticated network preying on Hollywood's vulnerable elite.
Her plea hearing and sentencing are set to take place
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in the coming weeks. The drug ring exploited Perry's struggles
with addiction, with Sangha and doctor Salvador Placentia at its core.
Sangha became the fifth and final defendant to strike a
plea agreement with federal prosecutors. Placentia had already pleaded guilty
to ketymine distribution in June, and other key players, including
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Perry's assistant Kenneth Iwamasa, friend Eric Fleming, and doctor Mark Chavez,
took their own Plea deals to cooperate against Sangha. Text
messages cited in court documents painted a picture of Sangha's
illicit operation with Fleming, gushing to Ewo Masa that her
ketamine was quote unquote amazing and tailored for quote high
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end and celebs. On the day of Perry's death, Sangha
allegedly told Fleming to delete their text messages, a calculated
move to cover her tracks. A March twenty twenty four
raid on Sangha's North Hollywood home unearthed a massive stash
of ketamine, methamphetamine, and other illicit drugs, solidifying her role
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as a major dealer with sanghas plea. The case takes
a definitive turn toward closure, though none of the five
defendants have yet been sentenced for their crimes.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Here a few facts that could jog your recollection.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
The so called Ketamine Queen who sales Friends star Matthew
Perry that deadly dose of ketamine, making a bill in
exchange for what.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
Did the drug dealer dub The Ketamine Queen refer to
Matthew Perry by his friend's character name, and.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
That would be his affinity.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Matthew Perry's affinity with Batman and he would call himself Mattman.
But according to sources, the so called Ketamine Queen Jasvine
Songhaar referred to him as Chandler in their texts and
emails when they would talk about drugs and drug deliveries
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code named Chandler. Wow, that was a toughie with me
an All Star panel, but let's just go back to
reality listen.
Speaker 6 (05:46):
Federal prosecutors allege that Perry first obtains ketamine from an
unscrupulous doctor aiming to take advantage of the actor's addiction issues.
Doctor Salvador Placentia teaches Perry's living assistant, Kenneth Ewa Massa,
how to administer the drug and provides ketamine to both
Perry and Ewamasa at exorbitant prices. When the drugs become
too expensive, Perry and Ewamasa turned to street dealers, including
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Jazzvin's songha dubbed the Ketamine Queen.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
What a very dear and intimate friend of Matthew Perry
says she doesn't think that ketamine is the cause of death.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Why and what would be the cause of death?
Speaker 2 (06:24):
And what leads her to say that this is what
the medical examiner has to.
Speaker 7 (06:29):
Say the Los Angeles Medical Examiner determined that fifty four
year old Matthew Perry died from the acute effects of ketamine.
Other contributing factors listed were drowning, coronary artery disease, and
the effects of buprenorphine. Buprenorphine is used to treat opioid
use disorder. The manner of death has been ruled an accident.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Joining us an all star panel to make sense of
what we're learning right now, but with me a special guest.
Rowena Chew, activist and former assistant to Harvey Weinstein. His
name tastes like dirt in my mouth. Convicted on multiple rapes,
(07:10):
and she has just written a New York Times guest essay,
I was a celebrity assistant.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
The power in balance is very real. Rowenach you thank
you for being with us. I enjoyed your article.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
I read it several times over and I try to
compare what you're saying and your situation with Harvey Weinstein.
May he rot in hell two Matthew Perry's assistant number one.
Matthew Perry was not a criminal. I was not a
rapist number one. But you point out assistants often do
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things that are let me just say, legally and ethically questionable.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
In your case, what does that mean? In my case?
Speaker 8 (08:00):
I worked for Harvey for only a couple of months,
and so I didn't have the opportunity to do things
that were ethically and legally immoral. But I was making
the point that the power imbalance is so huge that
assistants don't get the chance to say no.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
You also pointed out a quote that compared assistance that
may do illegal acts or unethical acts to the guards
at astwards that they knew what was happening was wrong,
And you make a very subtle yet important distinction explaining.
Speaker 9 (08:42):
Comparison was really with.
Speaker 8 (08:44):
Ordinary folks that lived in Nazi Germany, whether or not
you can hold them accountable for the events that happened
in the country. So I'm really making a point about
bystanders that don't have any real power themselves, and they
are essentially visible, or they don't have an identity of
their own, and they don't have the autonomy to make decisions.
And so I feel that celebrity assistance I also called
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them Butler's. I constantly felt that I was invisible, I
had no autonomy. Frequently didn't really have a name of
my own. I would call people up and stay, I'm
calling from Harvey Weinstein's office, but I wouldn't mention my
own name because I was add insignificant. So when you're
in a power balance where you're that insignificant, I think
it is incredibly difficult to be then thrust into the
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spotlight and held responsible for something as serious as somebody's death.
I think that I am attempting to shed light on
the fact that Kenneth Iwamasa may have had absolutely zero
choice in a way that the ordinary person can't understand.
He was a living assistant. The power and balance would
have been enormous.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
At the end of your article, I noted that you
stated it is often too easy to turn the butler
into the goat. Do you believe that Matthew Perri's assisted
who injected him with that deadly does.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Is a scape gut.
Speaker 8 (10:13):
I think he might have been put in an incredibly
difficult situation. Not only was his employment on the line,
but likely his involvement in the industry as a whole.
It could have been that he did not have another residence,
and so as a living assistant, you know, really there's
a power back dynamic on many different levels. I also
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think in the Weinstein case at least, that there were
many circles of power, enablement and entitlement that were far
more deserving of perhaps the legal system going after than assistants.
You know, for example, how the Weinstein had accountants and
board members that certainly knew of what was happening. So
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I think the assistants. I'm merely making the point that
the assistants, I suppose, are the lowest rung on the ladder,
and I think to hold them accountable and responsible for
the actions taken by a celebrity, it doesn't take into
account the enormous power difference between a celebrity and his assistant.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Rowena che Is joining US activist former assistant to Harvey Weinstein,
who has just written a guest essay for The Times
titled I was a celebrity assistant. The power and balance
is very real miss to I deeply respect you and
what you have to say and your viewpoint, and I
highly highly disagree with you in your case or some
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other assistants, not necessarily Weinstein's other assistants. Comparing that to
what Iro Massa did in Perry's case, knowing that he
had had seizures just sixteen days where he was unable
to move or speak after ketamine injection, knowing that I
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consider this much much more serious.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
But I'll circle back to you.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Missed you in just one moment, and again, I do
appreciate what you're saying, but I find it vastly, vastly
different than the case of Matthew Perry's assistant.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Speaking of the facts, let's go to kill a.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Brantley joining us investigative reporter. What I find very interesting
right now is that it's all business as usual. Matthew
Perry dies in the hot tub with a fatal overdose.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
The doctor is already back at work.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Taking patients like nothing happened. He had to put up
like one hundred thousand dollars bond. Really that's ten thousand dollars,
and regular people talk you put up ten percent.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
He's gone, he's out.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
The so called ketamine queen has not been sentenced.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
The assistant, Kenneth Ewamasa, has not been sentenced. Why I
think that the Feds.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Have you ever seen a cat with a little mouse,
just back and forth and back and forth until it
bites its head off.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
I think that's what the FEDS are doing right now.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
They're playing toying with the various defendants in order to
get them to talk to name other celebrity doctors and
other pill meals headed by doctors in LA and other celebrities.
I think that's what's happening. But to you, Kiln Brandley,
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Daily Mail, tell me the latest. We've got the doctor
back to work. A lot of people haven't been sentenced.
The other celebrity doctors, including one that just got shot
in the last day of Celebrity Doctor. He was assassinated
in his parking lot.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Following all of the.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Drama surrounding Matthew Perry's death and what's being uncovered, Hamid
Mereshow Jay was shot in his parking lot. He was
a celeb doctor focusing on addiction. We now have identified
two potential victims, other victims of the Ketemine Queen.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Both dead crime stories with Nancy Grace.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
The Ketemine Queen, one of the two biggest targets in
the investigation of Matthew Perry's death, along with the doctor,
doctor Salvador Placentia, who just played guilty to Ketymine distribution.
Oh yeah, he got a light deal Now, remember Matthew
Perry's personal assistant, his friend and another doctor also took
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guilty please and are cooperating. You know what that means.
They're going to rat her out. What more do we
know about the case against the so called ketamine queen.
Speaker 5 (14:47):
You only die when you use needles. Matthew Perry's ex
makes a shocking claim about his needle phobia, casting doubt
on his ketamine death.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Me psychoanalyst to the Stars, doctor Bethany Marshall, author of
deal Breaker, and you can also see her on peacock
and find her at doctor Bethanymarshall dot com dot Bethany.
I want to circle back with you about this doctor.
This doctor knew very well that Matthew Perry had actually
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seized up. In other words, he could not speak or
move for an extended period of time to sixteen days
before he died. Yet everything was business as usual.
Speaker 10 (15:34):
Listen details of Perry's last days in a federal indictment
reveal it was very clear to doctor Placentia that Perry's
ketemine injections were causing a total loss of awareness. The
indictment documents three separate occasions where Perry froze up after
receiving the medication, with Placentia commenting, let's not do that again.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
Defendant Placenta knew full well the danger of what he
was doing. In fact, on one occasion, he injected mister
Perry with ketemine and he saw mister Perry freeze up
and his blood pressure spike. Despite that, he left additional
vials of ketamine for defendant Iwamasa to administer to mister Perry.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Joining me, Todd Barr, Doctor Todd Barr Board certified anatomic
clinical forensic pathologist.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
I'm very curious.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Oh yes, he's also featured in Thin Places Essays Essays.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
From in Between doctor, thank you for being with us.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
I've been researching and investigating what exactly happened to Matthew
Perry when.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
He quote froze.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
That's hardly a medical description, but I've learned that there
was apparently a significant spike in his systolic blood blood pressure.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
What does high nancy? Thank you?
Speaker 11 (17:02):
So a spike in his systolic blood pressure just means
that he is having a hypertensive crisis. His blood pressure
is elevated to a point.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Kay, right there, right there? What do you mean hypertensive crisis.
Speaker 11 (17:16):
That means his blood pressure is at a high level,
such a high level that it could cause death. I mean,
people die from extreme fluctuations in their blood pressure. Blood
pressure is supposed to live in an average, in a
normal range. If you get too high, it's hypertensive. If
you get too low, it's hypotensive. And either of those
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hyper or hypo can cause death.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
So when he quote froze up, what does that indicate
to you? Is that some sort of a stroke or
a near stroke? What's a systolic spike in blood pressure?
Speaker 11 (17:54):
I would say the term froze up to me sounds
more like a seizure like activity, like a tonic chlonic
seizure where the muscles contract and you get into this
Ketamine is actually known for its anti convulsive properties. It's
used to treat seizures, but in high doses it can
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actually cause seizures. And as we know by the reports
that are out there, mister Perry was administered extremely high
doses of this this drug, ketamine, which is an anesthetic drug.
He was actually found with the levels that were compatible
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with surgery, and that you know, anesthesia that you would
need for surgical procedures.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
It reminds me a great deal of Conrad Murray injecting
Michael Jackson with propofol, and it took you know, hell
and high water to get Conrad Murray charged convicted, but
even that conviction was not enough to send sufficient shot
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waves through the celebrity doctor network in Hollywood.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
And now Matthew Perry is dead.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
You know it's Cala Brandtley's joining me investigative reporter with
the Daily Mail. Kella, I understand that the doctor would
provide the medication, the ketamine, along with Kenemine queen for
the assistant to make at home ketamine injections. Now, I
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heard what Rowena Chu said that the power balance is
way off, But shouldn't you know instinctively, especially after Perry
was having seizures just days before that you should not
be injecting ketamine to.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Matthew Perry at home.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
I mean, this assistant needs to be in jail along
with the doctor and the ketamine queen, the straight supplier.
They all need to be in jail and we need
to know their sentences. So what's happening, cal I don't
understand what's the hold of right?
Speaker 9 (20:13):
Well, Nanthy, I also want to break down exactly how
much ketymine was distributed to Matthew Perry. The doctors Chavis
and Placentia distributed twenty vials of ketymine to Perry for
fifty five thousand dollars in cash. That's charging him two
thousand dollars for a vial, and that vile cost doctor
chav Is just twelve dollars. So you can imagine how
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much money they were making off Perry. And that's the
point that the prosecutors were making. Now, the Kedemy Queen Sanga,
she sold about fifty vials of the drugs to Perry
with Flemming delivering the product that they're Flemming the Hollywood producer,
and they sold it to him for eleven thousand dollars.
So these people were making a lot of money off
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of Perry's addiction, and they clearly knew, as.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
You said, seezing up.
Speaker 9 (21:00):
And then you had the person who was injecting him,
who was his trusted assistant.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
They distributed approximately twenty vials of ketamine to mister Perry
in exchange for fifty five thousand dollars in cash. Defendant
Placentia saw this as an opportunity to profit off of
mister Perry. He wrote in a text message in September
twenty twenty three, quote, I wonder how much this moron
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will pay. He also stated in text messages that he
wanted to be mister.
Speaker 5 (21:32):
Perry's sole source of supply.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
He wrote in a text message that he wanted to
be mister Perry's quote go to for drugs.
Speaker 5 (21:41):
Matthew Perry's assistant allegedly found Perry in similar circumstances two
times in the same week of his tragic.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Death, joining us Rowena Chew, former assistant to Harvey Weinstein,
who just wrote a New York Times guest essay, I
was a celebrity assistant.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
The power imbalance is very real.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
You just heard other examples that celebrity assistants have named.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Do you believe that.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
In this case the assistant is being scapegoated or do
you believe he is rightfully being prosecuted as it relates
to Matthew Perry's death.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
I do believe he's being scapegoated.
Speaker 8 (22:22):
I mean, we just heard about how other players in
this system are making insane amounts of money, and I
asked you to think about what does the assistants stand
again in that equation.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
What does the money have to do with it?
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Rowena, Would it make it okay if he was paid
more money?
Speaker 8 (22:39):
Oh no, absolutely not. I'm not saying that anybody was
doing anything right. However, there's a big difference between the
amounts of money the doctors and the drug dealers were
making and what did the assistants stand. Again, I believe
the assistant was just trying to survive. He wasn't making
staggering amounts of money, and so therefore his incentive to
do what he did was very different from the doctors
and the drug dealers out there trying to get something
(23:01):
for himself. He was merely trying to survive his job.
There's a big difference in that.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
So you believe the difference, and whether he should be
held criminally culpable is whether he was getting paid for
shooting Matthew Perry up to his death.
Speaker 8 (23:16):
I don't think that there's a huge incentive for him
to push this agenda, and therefore I don't believe that
he was pushing the agenda. He was merely doing what
he was told to do under incredibly strenuous circumstances. So
I'm merely saying that as a point of coercion. The
assistant is not really this person who should be skapgoted
(23:38):
that there are layers of privilege and abuse of power
that are far greater than that. And you know, we
can easily point to doctors and drug dealers who were
making vast amounts of money and had a huge incentive
to push this kind of an agenda.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Mike McCormick joining me, Lean, investigator of MCUM Investigations in Hollywood.
Mike McCormick, Oh, respector Rowen and Chew, But I think
that's completely I don't.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Agree at all.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Everybody in Hollywood is making money off celebs.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Celebs are making money off the studios.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
The studios are making money off us and advertisers.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
That's how it works in Hollywood.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
It's like one bloodsucker sucking on the next bloodsucker, just
like ticks, you know, stuck to the animal. But Mike McCormick,
what do you make of what Rowena is saying that
the assistant is the scapegoat. I think they should all
be put in the same pot to boil and all
(24:36):
be tried together.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
As it relates to Perry's death.
Speaker 12 (24:40):
Well, I don't think the assistant is being scapegoaded. I
just think he was being more loyal, just doing what
what the boss wanted him to do. It had nothing
to do with money, was job security and loyalty.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Okay, hold on to some moment, doctor Manthony Marshall. Maybe
I'm not articulating my point that, well, the assistant lives
in a mansion, he makes plenty of money, he rubs
elbows with all of the stars, he drives a beautiful
luxury car. Maybe I'm not understanding his poor conditions. I
don't see it, Nancy.
Speaker 13 (25:20):
I have a unique perspective on this because these assistants
sometimes come to my office. One in particular was the
major domo for one of the wealthiest men in the
world and had to stand around serving palomas to the
family all day long alcoholic beverages, and he became so
disgusted because one of the family members was drunk all
(25:42):
day long.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
He was traumatized.
Speaker 13 (25:43):
He came to therapy and said, I just cannot do
this anymore, and he left the job. So, yes, these
assistants are vulnerable in the sense that they often do
things they don't want to do, but they do have
agency in the world. And I think in particular when
you are potentially committing homicide. That's a breach of duty,
(26:07):
that's lack of judgment that a ten year old knows
not to do.
Speaker 11 (26:12):
Right.
Speaker 13 (26:13):
We just know basically, you don't kill somebody if you
administer a drug. They sees you don't administer the drug. Again,
I mean, I'm sorry, but this assistant could have gone
and worked at a bar, would probably I would prefer
to scrub floors than to inject somebody with a substance
(26:33):
that could kill them. It is just common sense. Of course,
there's a power imbalance. Of course, there's a power in
balance in life for all of.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Us, exactly, you know, Caleb Brandtley, I want to follow
up on what doctor Bethany's saying. Caleb Brantley joining us
from Daily Mail call, and we understand that Matthew Perry's
mansion is being renovated, especially around the hot tub, the
pool area where he died. Seems as if for Hollywood,
including the prosecutors, it's just business as usual. There are
(27:06):
no sentences on the people that have agreed to plead guilty.
It just seems as if everyone's acting as though nothing happened.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Matthew Perry is dead.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
These people, according to the FEDS, are responsible. Why aren't
they behind bars Killa And what if anything, can you
tell me about when these people are going to jail?
Speaker 1 (27:33):
And one other question.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Apparently one of Perry's intimate friends states that he Perry
was deathly afraid of needles and she is questioning the
real cod Keilla listen.
Speaker 6 (27:51):
One of Perry's former assistants and ex girlfriend, Katie Edwards,
says she does not believe Perry could have possibly been
taking ketamine. Edwards describes Perry's in tense fear of needles,
saying he wouldn't even consider a tattoo due to the phobia.
Edwards was no stranger to Perry's addiction and told him
he would die in an argument over his drug use.
Perry's response quote, you only die when you use needles,
(28:13):
and I would never ever do that.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Caleb Brantley, what about it?
Speaker 2 (28:16):
This person an intimate friend of Perry's raising the specter
up another cood cause of death.
Speaker 9 (28:23):
I understand that, Nancy, But it was Katie Edwards. She
dated him back in two thousand and six, worked as
an assistant until like twenty eleven, so while they were
still friends, they hadn't dated in a while, and I
understand that she said that he had a fear of this.
But Matthew Perry himself had written in his book about
these kenemine infusions that he was taking and how it
(28:45):
felt and how it was helping him. So I personally
am not so sure of that theory. And you do
have his assistant and everyone basically admitting to injecting him.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Crime stories with Nancy Grace, Oh yeah, people think she's beautiful,
she's glamorous.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
She posts all sorts of really really.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Refined photos and videos on her social media. But the
so called Ketamine Queen Jazzavin sayingha is nothing more but
a dope dealer.
Speaker 5 (29:29):
The Fed say there are likely more victims of the
infamous ketamine Queen.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Apparently, celebrities and celebrity doctors alike across Hollywood are quaking
in their boots, afraid that the so called ketamine Queen
is going to rat them out in exchange for a
sweethearted deal from the Feds. The so called ketamine Queen,
the one that supplied Matthew Perry the deadly dose of
(30:01):
ketamine that ended in his death. Are there other victims?
Speaker 10 (30:05):
Yes, Listen Jasvien Sogha sells Cody mclowery several vials of ketamine.
Later that same day, mclowry's family finds him dead. A
family member tells Sangha her ketamine caused mclowry's overdose death,
and Songha googles can ketamine be listed as a cause
of death?
Speaker 6 (30:23):
There are likely more victims. Eric Fleming, who reportedly acted
as a program director at the bell Air Rehab Red Door,
also had a resident die on his watch. William Cooney,
thirty six, was found dead of a fentyl overdose in
his bathroom at the facility.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
So those are two alleged victims. Two more victims of
the ketamine Queen. That makes three if those two victims
are to be believed. In fact, Cody's family is speaking
out against the ketamine Queen and.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
Is she talking?
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Is she making a deal with the fedes to get
a light sentence and extra change for ratting out other
solibs and other doctors. Man, she needs a lot of
money to support this lifestyle. So what is the connection
between the ketemine Queen and the other alleged victims?
Speaker 1 (31:16):
All dead?
Speaker 14 (31:17):
Coming to light are brog Mueller's deep ties to suspects
Flemming and Songha. Mueller spent time with Songhai in one
of her many rehab stands, and Fleming is reportedly a
godfather to one of Mueller's children. Mueller reportedly pressured then
boyfriend William Cooney to join her at pal Fleming's rehab program,
where Cooney overdosed and died. Mueller may well have introduced
(31:37):
Fleming and Songha to Perry as shortcuts to feed his addiction.
Federal prosecutors report that Mueller is cooperating with the investigation
and is not facing any charges.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Let me understand, CALEA.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Brantley joining us from dailymail dot com, the so called
Ketamine queen Songha meets up with who and rehab? Let
me say, is Britton Mueller, who apparently was very close
to Matthew Perry. Now how does that connect and to
Songhaw the dealer.
Speaker 9 (32:08):
Well, all roads are kind of leading back to Jazzmine Sogha,
the Kennymine Queen. She was a supplier of multiple people.
And now we do find this connection between Brooke Mueller,
who spent time with Matthew Perry in rehab. They were
close friends. And then we have Eric Cumming, who was
a director at the rehab center where this man William
(32:32):
Cooney had passed away. So this all is a circular
connection of going back to Sangha and I'm have been
on the radar for a while. Back in March twenty
twenty four, the FED raided her house and they called
it a drug imporium, these seventy nine bottles that some
had tested positive for kennymine. So this is no surprise
(32:55):
that Jazzmine Sanga is involved in this Matthew Perry case.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Now two more alleged victims of this woman living the
high life that supplied the deadly dose to Matthew Perry.
Now would he be her third victim? Why has it
taken that to bring her to justice? Are those investigations ongoing?
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Now?
Speaker 2 (33:20):
This by far is not the first time a celebrity
has died with enablers circling them like vultures.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Listen now, I want.
Speaker 15 (33:29):
To heard of three.
Speaker 5 (33:31):
How are you doing?
Speaker 15 (33:31):
It's the security from Beverly Hilton, All right, what conor?
I need a paramedic. Apparently I got a forty thy
curial female I'm found in the bathroom to a fellow
guy right now. But they're requesting paramedic crew. Okay, par
fellow about them and I love rim Cantal. I'm not
sure if she fellow. She was in the bathroom with
the water four four four threepole. I'm sorry that the
room four three fourth yet. Okay, they're not quet for
anything else.
Speaker 13 (33:49):
There's room four three.
Speaker 15 (33:50):
Four thirty four. Yeah, okay, you don't know see a
country of reathing at all. Apparently she wasn't breathing, and
she's toy secured she was not breathing.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
But he Houston surrounded by enablers. Ultimately it cost her
her life. Then there is John Belushi, one of the
greatest comedians that ever lived. He was shot up with
drugs at the Chateau Marmont and his assistant did hard
jail time after shooting him up. Bobby Christina Whitney's daughter
(34:20):
od It goes on and on and on. Of course,
Michael Jackson, Aaron Carter, Chris Farley went to rehab sixteen times.
His younger brother finds him dead in his apartment. Of course,
Prince died a deadly opioid injection. Goes all the way
(34:43):
back to Elvis, China, Amy Winehouse and a Nicole spiraled
down a drug hole, while everyone supported that and enabled her.
Kurt Cobain, River Phoenix. It goes on and on, and
(35:05):
the enablers are never brought to justice. Joining me an
all star panel to make sense of what we know
right now? Do you believe, Cala Brantley that this signals
the beginning of a celebrity a celebrity doctor cracked down.
Speaker 9 (35:20):
I think it's very possible, Nancy, especially now that we
have people who are making Klea feels. You could see
them speak and tell you know their networks of people
and connections, and this could be the craft out at
the beginning of a bunch of doctors who are prescribing
people deadly, deadly medications. We have from the pleas so far,
(35:43):
people admitting, including his assistant, to covering up and cleaning
up this scene by getting rid of syringes and ketamine
vials that's according to the pre agreement, and telling each
other to delete things. So we see an orchestrated system
from these people who are trying to get away with
clearly knowing that they did something wrong.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
To Todd Barr joining us doctor Barr, Board certified and
atomic clinical forensic pathologist, Doctor Barr, what do you notice
about the death certificate.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
So, Nancy, I.
Speaker 11 (36:15):
Have a lot of real issues with the way this
case was decided. As a forensic expert, I have been
involved in prosecutions of crimes that involved other people distributing
or administering drugs to a victim. The very definition of
a homicide is death at the hands of another period,
(36:39):
whether it's by omission or comission. In this case, comission.
They brought in drugs, they injected them into Matthew Perry's body.
They should be charged with a homicide. They should be
charged with murder straight up, everyone that's involved. Now, the
second part of this is the official cause of death
(36:59):
was listed as the acute effects of ketamine, and then
other conditions or contributing conditions included drowning. Now, there are
certain stigmata of drowning that you see at autopsy. If
those are present, then a drowning occurred. So Matthew Perry's
death is literally because of drowning. But then there's a
(37:21):
part b or drowning due to the intoxicating effects of ketamine.
So he was so dissociative and esthetized that he slipped
under the water. If they're going to list drowning as
a contributing factor. Then that means they had evidence that
he drowned, so it should have been listed as a
(37:42):
drowning Number one due to the effects of ketamine, and
the manner of death should have been listed as homicide.
So I have a very strong opinion about the way
this death certificate was worded, and I believe that sometimes
when it's worded this way, defendants get off a lot easier. Now,
I don't know if in LA they have something going
(38:03):
where they were these death certificates in a way, so
people get off a little easier.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
But that's my take too.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
Rowena Toe joining us former assistant to Harvey Weinstein now activists,
who has just written a New York Times guest essay
called I was a celebrity assistant. The power and balance
is a very real thought to you, Rowena, what do
you make of it all?
Speaker 8 (38:25):
I think there are levels of power that we could
go after that are much more intense than that of
the assistant. I think the assistant, being the lowest run
on the ladder, probably is the last person that anyone
should go after because he has read his little autonomy.
I'm not saying that no one should be held accountable.
I'm saying that there are levels of power above him
that should be accountable before he is.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
Saying her know to all of our customers. As the quote,
ketymine queen, Now that's certainly something you.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
Don't want in your scrapbook.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
It's charged with five counts of ketemine distribution, including one
count of distribution that results in death, the death of
Matthew Perry. She pled guilty in his PS Friends reruns
are on all the time. Everyone knows about Matthew Perry
and his death thanks to the Ketamine Queen and all
(39:14):
of the enablers around Perry.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
We wait as justice unfolds. Goodbye, friend,
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