July 30, 2025 • 54 mins
Sean ‘Diddy’ Combs asks a judge to free him on $50m bond pending sentencing.
The disgraced Music mogul to be sentenced in October on prostitution related offenses after acquittal on more serious charges, attorney tell courts no other "John" would still be in jail. Prosecutors insist Combs' remains a flight risk.
Combs, 55, faces up to a decade in prison on two counts of transportation to engage in prostitution for flying people around the country, including his girlfriends and male sex workers. After Combs was acquitted, lead attorney Marc Agnifilo, ask that 'Diddy' be released on bond, however Judge Arun Subramanian denies his request, saying Combs has not shown clear evidence he is not a “danger to any person or the community”.
Joining Nancy Grace today:
- Philip Dubé - Former Court-Appointed Counsel, Los Angeles County Public Defenders: Criminal & Constitutional Law, Forensics & Mental Health Advocacy
- Dr. Cheryl Arutt - Licensed Clinical and Forensic Psychologist specializing in Trauma Recovery, PTSD and EMDR, website: askdrcheryl.com, website: CreativeEMDR.com , IG: @askdrcheryl
- Dr. DeWayne Hendrix - Former Warden at the MDC in Brooklyn [also served as a Warden in Sheridan, Oregon], Former Senior Warden with the US Department of Justice, Federal Bureau of Prisons, Founder and President of A New Daylight Foundation, Author: "Who Are You? See it Say it and Seize it;" @anewdaylight (IG) @drdewaynehendrix (LinkedIn) @anewdaylight (X-Twitter)
- Rob Shuter - Host: Naughty But Nice Podcast, Former Publicist of Sean Combs; IG: @naughtygossip
- Lynn Shaw - Founder and Executive Director of Lynn's Warriors [an organization committed to ending human trafficking and sexual exploitation], Host of Lynn's Warriors on YouTube; X: @lynns_warriors, YouTube: @LynnsWarrior
- Tisa Tells - Pop Culture Investigator & Commentator and Host of 'Tisa Tells' on YouTube; Instagram & TikTok: @TisaTellss, Facebook: Tisa.Tells.3
- Sydney Sumner - CRIME STORIES Investigative Reporter
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace choir boy Diddy, Yes, that's right.
His lawyer actually described him, as his words, an actual
choir boy that listens to one sermon every week behind bars,
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try a sermon every day and twice on Sundays.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
I want bail.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Yes, I told you he is going to try and
get bail again. And what is his lame excuse this time?
That it's the women's fault, the victim's fault. You remember
Cassie Ventier getting dragged up and down the hotel hallway.
He says, the women's the women's provoked him to violence.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
It's their fault.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
What should they be behind bars? And the choir boy
walks free? Oh double l InOH Diddy, I mean Ansy Grace.
This is Crime Stories. I want to thank you for
being with us. Did he behind bars? That? Did he jail?
Watch as Shawn Combs heads for sentencing Seawn Comes trying
every trick in the book to walk free. How long
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will did he stay behind bars?
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Does it never end with Sean Comes?
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Listen, judge, We've been warned by let's see eminem, you
name it. Even Combs goes on the late night talk shows.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Talking about locking women in for.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Sex appeal bond over my cold dead body.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Nobody gets an appeal bond.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
What is an appeal bond? It's after you're convicted, after
a jury says you did it. Now go to jail.
You say you want to walk free until the appellate
court rules on your complaints. He could appeal that all
the way up to the US Supreme Court.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
For beat's sake, what do we know?
Speaker 1 (02:03):
We know Sean Comes is making another bid at bail,
and this isn't just bond. This is an appeal bond.
Joining me an all star panel to make sense of
what we know right now, and this as victims out, they're.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Quaking in their boots.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
The judge just might let him go straight out to
TISA Tales, joining US investigator a star off TISA Tales
on YouTube. Tisa again. Listen, Diddy is literally living up
to his name. Can't stop, won't stop. But this last
one is almost laughable.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Okay, it would be funny if it wasn't so sad.
We haven't even been a month since the jury let
him off. On the more serious chargers. The judge was clear,
you are a violent criminal. I don't care if it's
domestic violence. I see through your act. Not only are
you violent, but you're dangerous and.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
It will come out of the blue.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
We cannot predict this.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
On top of that, when we found you, you we're ready.
You had a roving freak call party ready, complete with
the stripper hills, the Tucci, some pills on the side
because he likes the washes, Tucci down, whoop pills, and
a woman in.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
This hotel room.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
All that was missing was the sex worker.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Atisa tells the night Sean Combs arrested and he knows
it's coming. He knows he's gonna be taken in. He
plans a free cough that night. That said to Rob Shooter,
joining us PR guru that actually worked for Combs for
a really long time star of Naughty but Nice podcast.
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He's at robshooter dot substack dot com. Robshooter. What is
wrong with this guy? What did he not get the
first time? What is this his third fourth attempt at
bond And the judge keeps saying the same thing over
and over and over.
Speaker 5 (03:51):
Yeah, this is a guy that does not accept the answer. No,
that is just not in his vocabulary. He will not
accept it. He's never accepted it throughout his career, and
I think after this really disturbing verdict, he now feels empowered.
He's not focusing on the crimes he has been convicted of.
He is focusing on the crimes that he has not
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been found guilty of, and that has empowered him. He
feels like a winner at the moment. His fans feel
like he is a winner. And so he's going to
fight this and if he loses, he's going to fight
it again until he gets the result he wants.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
You know, the judge in this case indicated he was
not at all swayed by Sean Combs, his lawyers even
going back to wait for it. Agna Fello calling Sean
Combs a choir boy his words, My client's an actual
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choir boy. He watches online sermons every week. That's total
b s. Did he ever darkened the door of a church,
a synagogue, a mosque and anything during the time you
worked for him. Did he make charitable contributions? Did he
try to help anybody but himself?
Speaker 5 (05:12):
He helped himself, Nancy, It was always about him. If
did he was going to turn up at a charity
and an event at a church, at a religious organization.
It was always about him. But I think here the
point we're missing is his lawyers have been really successful.
I thought he was going to go to jail for
a really long time. I was wrong. He practically got
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off this, and so they believe in themselves. They believe him.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Hold on a Shooter. Maybe I've got all of my
facts wrong. But where are Sean comes right now?
Speaker 5 (05:41):
He's in jail, Nancy Grace. He is in jail.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
No, okay, So he didn't get off. And that's a
very poor choice of words, by the way. So he
didn't get off. He's behind bars. Is he not rob Shooter?
Speaker 5 (05:56):
You are right, Nancy Grace. He is behind bars, but
in his mind, in his mind, he is already out.
He's planning his comeback. He thinks he'd beat the system.
And I think a lot of people, including me, I
feel like he beat the system. Here he is in jail.
He could be away for five ten years. You're absolutely right,
but this is not what I think we all wanted
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the outcome to be. I thought he had been in
jail for the rest of his life. Didn't happen.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Well, what do you have to say about this? That
part of his claim that he deserves an appeal bond,
which is unheard of. Unheard of, nobody gets an appeal
bond after they've already been convicted by a jury. Part
of his claim is the women's it's therefore they provoked
me to violence. Did you not see the Casi venture video?
(06:47):
Did you not see the pictures of the bruises all
over her body?
Speaker 5 (06:51):
Well, it's great, it's their fault.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Are you not hearing this, Nancy?
Speaker 5 (06:56):
It's worked for him. He did this during the trial.
Blame Cassie. He claimed that she wanted this somehow. He
claimed she enjoyed the sex. She was a willing participant,
and a jury Nancy, maybe not you, maybe not me,
but a jury decided he was right. And so he
at the minute feels empowered. He feels bolder than ever
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and empowered.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Did he is a dangerous I don't see that lip
right there? You know what? You just keep talking about
how he feels, Shooter, I don't care how he feels.
And he is not an actual choir boy. Those were
the words of the defense attorney Agnafello to Lynn Shaw,
joining me. Apparently I can't talk any sense into Rob Shooter,
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he said, one too many Diddy doses. Tonight, Lynn Shaw
joining me, founder director Linz Warriors, committed to ending sex trafficking,
and you can hear her on YouTube. Host of Lin's Warriors,
Lynn the claim the women made me do it. Do
you remember the comedian Flip Wilson. His catch line was
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the devil made me do it, and he became a
millionaire with that phrase. That's what Shawn Kimes is doing.
The women's provoked to me, it's the women's fault.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
What Nancy, Let's go back a little bit. This dirty
Diddy playbook, Okay, blaming the women, blaming the victims. This
is as old as time. We see it constantly in court,
we see it constantly in our environment. We work with
you know, with the warriors, with victims and survivors. But
I want to remind everybody the dirty Diddy world, the music,
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the rap, they disregard women and girls. They think of
them as objects, I dare say, garbage. So we have
to go into I'm thinking constantly about that jury, that jury,
because I agree with Rob. You know, we had to
put out all kinds of statements and saying we really
thought this would be a sex trafficking charge.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Yes he's in jail.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
Yes he'll probably serve two to three years, some kind
of light sentence. But in our book, Seawn Combs is
a sex trafficker, a pimp, a predator.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Choir boy.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
So they can flap their lips all they want, but
they did succeed somewhat because that jury did not give
him all of these charges. And it's very very.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Displace by the victims and by see Cassie Ventura's fast Well,
the jury did not see the ball lip. The jury
is going in front of a judge claiming the women,
the victims in this case, provoked him to violence.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
It's their fault. Listen.
Speaker 6 (09:34):
Seawan Combe's team argues the rap mogul should not be
behind bars for his swinger lifestyle and says Combs does
not pose a danger to anyone should he be released.
Attorneys right that Combs enrolled in a domestic violence program
and participated in it until his arrest, also arguing that
the latest violent episode with Jane in June twenty twenty
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four was provoked by Jane's own violence towards him.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Classic to doctor Cheryl Erict joining us for renowned clinical
forensic psychologist specializing in trauma recovery, Doctor Cheryl.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
This is classic in every case I ever had.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Which by the time I got it was a domestic
violence felony. In every case in prior beatings and tortures,
the defendant, typically a man, blamed the woman.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
It's always her fault.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
She made me do it. And if the judge falls
for this BS, I'm going to do a backflip on
the courthouse steps.
Speaker 7 (10:40):
Yes, what they teach in courses like the one he's
taking supposedly now, in domestic violence courses is she can
make him angry, but she cannot make him hit. She
is never responsible for his violence, and all domestic violence
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is not created equally. One of the things that we've
seen here is that he's gone for the throat. He
has committed choking, and we've seen all sorts of horrific
things he's done, but choking victims are more than seven
hundred and fifty times more likely to be killed by
the offender within the next year than any other type
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of violence. Stalking and choking are both very high lethality
types of violence and domestic violence, as I'm sure you know,
and somebody who's done the things that we can see
on this video is incredibly dangerous and has been incredibly
dangerous to the people who testified against him.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
He's a danger and rob. Sheter another issue, how many
times when you work for Sean Combs did you see
him try unsuccessfully, try unsuccessfully, try unsuccessfully, and then be
successful get what he wanted. What kind of message is
it going to send if Judge Cebermanium says over and
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over and over, no bond, no bon, no bon, You're
a danger. You're a danger. You've been contacting witnesses, you've
been threatening victims behind bars, and then suddenly goes, yeah,
you're right, you're walking free. It's happened before with Sean Combs.
He always says to get what he wants, regardless of
the cost to other people.
Speaker 5 (12:22):
Absolutely, it's the story of his life. If he can't
get through the front door, he'll go through the window.
If he can't get through the window, he'll come down
the chimney. He's used to get in his own way.
He said something to me once that really stuck with me,
and at the time it was sort of like an
inspiring quote that I've used in my career. But now
knowing what we know about him, it's terrifying. He used
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to tell me that the road to success is paved
with failure. Let me say that again. The road to success,
the road to getting what he thinks his success is
what he wants, is paved with failure. He doesn't mind failure,
He gets back up, he tries a.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
The road to success is paved with failure.
Speaker 5 (13:04):
You know what.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Stop Stop. Let's focus on the message that this would
send if the judge allows Seawan Colms to walk free
on an appeal. By hold on, I'm going to perform
an experiment with Philip Debay. An experiment, Philip Debay, is
it physically possible for you to answer in one word
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either yes or no. Philip Debay is actually a renowned
defense attorney. Uh, former LA County public defender has tried
a ton of cases. Debay, isn't it true that it's
very very rare for a convicted felon to get an
(13:49):
appeal bond? Yes? Okay, I can't believe it. Somebody bring
me the smelling salts right now. He only did not
to torture me because I said he couldn't do it,
and he did it just to it back at me.
Explain why, Debate.
Speaker 8 (14:02):
No, they're presumptively going to prison because of the sentencing guidelines.
A jury found them guilty. I respectfully disagree with the
court because there are exceptions. I think the only thing
that this jury verdict sends a message about is that
he cornered the market on bolt by body oil. Seriously,
remember he beat the top charges, which necessarily means they
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could not prove that he committed any of the predicates.
No arson, no kidnap, you know what else, No trafficking,
no bribery, no forest labor, no drug distribution, all of that.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
So you agree with the jury, yet you disagree with
the jury. You want it both ways. You want your cake.
You want to eat it too. Guess what, the cake's
all gone because you ate it.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
You can't have.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Yeah, they were right when they let them off at
three counts, but they were wrong when they convicted them
of two counts. So pick debate.
Speaker 8 (14:54):
No, what I'm saying is whether or not he gets
out on bond is not a jury issue at this point.
It's a really any shoot for the court. The jury
doesn't get to make.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
And that's not what it sounded like you were saying. No,
what's the likelihood, what's the vagus ar geral that he's
going to walk on an appeal. Beard, Yeah, that's what
I think too. And back to you, shooter, if you can,
you know, get the antidote to your diddy dose. You
actually shot up this morning. You had to. What message
will it send if the judge goes along with this.
Speaker 5 (15:25):
It sends two different types of messages to two different
types of people, to the rest of us, to the public,
to victims out there. It's a terrible, terrible message. To
did He, it is a glorious message. It will prove
to him what he thinks, which is he is above
the law, that he is special, that he is a wizard.
He has gotten away with a lot. Nancy, I would
not put this past him.
Speaker 9 (15:47):
People are taking beds to see how long Sean Divicoms
is going to stay behind bars?
Speaker 10 (15:53):
How long did he will stay behind bars?
Speaker 2 (15:57):
What kind of sentencing will he get?
Speaker 4 (15:59):
A lot of attorneys were mind blown.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
By the fact that did He was staying behind bars
based on prostitution charges or a prostitution conviction alone. Did
he might stay in there for five to ten years.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
The Man Act transporting people across state lines to perform
illegal sex acts while Shawn Combs assists he's the only
one that's ever been prosecuted for that. That is far
from true. But I want to find out what are
the terms that he is proposing to the judge For
those of you just joining us, that's right, Shawn Combs
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at it again, going back to the well, trying to
get a long cold drink of water asking for bond.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Guess what did he.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Doesn't like being behind bars? What do we know to
Tisa Tal's joining us? He is a star of Tisa
tales on YouTube. Investigative reporter Tisa. What are the terms
of the bond that he is proposing?
Speaker 3 (16:59):
The terms of the are actually near like the first
term that got rejected. He's saying, I'll give you fifty million.
I'll give three verified references to make sure. I'm sure
those three references are probably his son. He's saying that
he's going to have in house security, he's going to
wear ankle monitoring, and he only wants permission to travel
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from New York to Miami.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
The only thing is all the.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Havoc you reaped was majority in New York and Miami,
with a little California sprinkled on the side. People are
saying that he's offering up the same thing because again,
like Pop said, he thinks he's a musician, but I
mean a magician. But the funniest thing you would say
is the fact that he is still one hundred percent pushing.
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He is the victim, and he somehow thinks that if
he can turn this all around, he will be out.
They're planning some type of August festivity in Star Island,
and he is literally also going around telling people that
we're reporting on him that he doesn't hold any hostile
feelings toward them and that he's ready to actually move forward. Again,
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when you add that into the time, when you add
that into the fact that he just entered this program
on the what is it, two weeks ago, and he
is now trying to spend that he is so repentent and.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Not a danger.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
When you add in the fact that, on top of
that bellbond at a pr which I think is an
empty promise, he's also floating unofficially that he's going to
open up some type of shelter for battered women and children.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
We'll see if that ever comes about.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
It looks like he is playing in the court space.
It looks like it's a mockery and it looks like
he is laughing in victims' faces. The jury got it wrong, Nancy,
I one hundred percent believe that. But Judge Aaron held
the line and the good fight, and again, domestic violence
is still violent.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
You are violent, You are unpredictable. Sounds like a predator
to me.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
So thank goodness that the legal odds are in favor
of him actually staying behind bars.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
You know, you mentioned that he was drumming up at
least three reference laughters, and I found out who the
references are. Let's see, first choices, Lucifer builds a bub
and Judas is Scariot. Lucifer builds a bub and Judas
is Scariot. And if those won't work, he's going for
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Rex Huerman, Scott Peterson, and Jody Arius. So we'll see
what what what sway that has on the judge. Lucifer
builds a bub, Judas is Scariot. Second choices, Rex Human,
Scott Peterson, and Jody Arius.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
They won. Okay, there's a lot of things that he
can teach them.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
What are the terms of the bond requests?
Speaker 1 (19:44):
As Testales just pointed out, they're basically the terms that
he put up last time when he offered his forty
eight million dollar Miami home his mother's two million Miami home.
I wonder how she feels about that. He pledges to
limit travel to New York, New Jersey and Florida, and
that would be oh so close to Teeterborough private airstrip,
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multiple private airstrips in Florida. Hey, maybe he'll use JN.
Travolta's private jet strip to leave the country. That he
will keep his private jet parked in La Okay. That's
the point of a jet to fly wherever you want to.
We're a GPS tracking device. He goes on and on
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and on and Angnafello Vow's quote, we're going to get
mister Combs out of jail now, speaking of the forty
eight million dollar mansion that he's going to hole up in.
What do we know about that? Robert Crispin, the.
Speaker 11 (20:44):
Neighbors, they are really happy that there's no more attention,
there's no more late parties, three four day benders.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
The drugs in that white gay behind me.
Speaker 10 (20:56):
That's where the Feds went in with their shirt shard.
Speaker 5 (20:59):
That's where the drugs came out.
Speaker 11 (21:00):
That's where the electronic evidence came out.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
That's where everything started.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
To unfold for Diddy before he got indicted.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Straight out to Rob Shooter, Rob Shooter former PR guru
two Shawn Combs, who describes Combs demanding cheesecake at three
o'clock in the morning and getting it, ordering a fleet
of the media to reshoot the shot of him arriving
for his private jet flight because he didn't like the
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angle and guess what they did it demanding a different
seat at high style restaurants because it wasn't appropriate for
him to be seen near the kitchen, the door, or
the bathroom and blah blah blah, Rob Shooter.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
The first thing.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Shawn Combs is going to do is a throw up party,
probably a freak cough in that Miami mansion and then
have his private jets show up, clip off that ankle monitor,
and be gone to join Kanye in Paris, where they
don't care. They even have Roman Polanski who raped a
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fourteen year old girl in a hot tub after giving
her drugs and alcohol.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
They don't care. This would be.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Another feather in their cap to have Sean Combs there
along with Roman Polanski and Kanye. Yeah, that's where he
would be heartbeat.
Speaker 5 (22:33):
Does this really concerning under belly within the celebrity world?
And I think Kanye Roman Polanski are really good examples
of this. Nancy Did His career is not over. It
is not. He might actually come back and be bigger
than ever. We saw those fans outside the courthouse. They
are passionate about did He in a way that they've
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not been this passionate about him in maybe a decade.
He was, He wasn't selling records anymore, his clothing company
had pretty much gone bust. He was basically just selling vodka.
Now in a really ugly, ugly twist that should make
any decent person really angry. He is more relevant. We're
talking about him more than ever. And let me say
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the conversation bubbling up today about bail, he will be
enjoying this. He's probably been missing us for a couple
of weeks. We've not been talking about him, He's not
been in the papers once again, did He has made
himself the topic of conversation.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
You know what Robshooter between Julayne, Maxwell Epstein and Diddy.
I'm hiding under the bed and getting an unlisted number.
I don't want my core bomb my minivan like kid
Cuddies was You know what, as much as I don't
like it, I'm afraid that what you say contains a
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tiny grain of truth. If this is any measure. Watch
armand Wiggins celebrating half naked with a champagne shower outside
the courthouse after the verdict. From armand Wiggins Instagram, it's
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time for a Diddy makeover, his lawyers, aiming to show
he is no longer a quote bad boy for life
good luck.
Speaker 9 (24:29):
It was the defense's zone words that their client was
a violent man. Biden's public condemnation he beat Jane viciously.
Speaker 6 (24:38):
I mean, he's been dressed, in your words, as a
Harvard underground for the duration of the trial. They are
really trying to make him look like a clean cut,
humble family man. But they are fighting.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Back decades of a bad boy legacy.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
No no, no, an oh. Sean Khan was going back
to the well asking for bond again with essentially the
same conditions he's argued before, putting up his fifty million
dollar mansion, putting up his mother's two dollars million dollar mansion,
promising not to travel outside the country, and wearing an
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ankle monitor. Uh okay, no, this is what is called
an appeal bond, and it is extremely rare. I can't
even think of an appeal bond that.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Has ever happened.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
But now he is focused on quote I hope you're
sitting down, reflection, accountability, and growth listen.
Speaker 11 (25:35):
Sources close to Combs say he recognizes he cannot return
to his life as it was before the trial, and
claim the mogul is committed to doing the work to
become a better man. His legal team says Combs is
focused on reflection, accountability, and growth, and that Combs is
not seeking vindication, instead taking the opportunity to right the
wrongs one step at a time. Pr experts predict a
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tell all interview will come in due time, and Combs
will likely be making some charitable donations in the near
future in an attempt to garner public goodwill.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Isn't it true?
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Straight out to Sidney Sumner joining US Crime Stories investigative
reporter that he is now quote stuck in society septic tank.
He has been called notorious pig and more so, explain
to me what is he doing behind bars to rehab
his image? To convince the judge to let a walk
(26:27):
free on bond.
Speaker 10 (26:28):
Well, apparently, Sean Combs is signed up for a number
of programs behind bars, including drug rehab, a domestic violence class,
and is even taking mental health therapy behind bars to
somehow try to prove to the judge that he's all
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of a sudden become a much better person, completely committed
to not battering women abusing drugs anymore. He's trying to
show that he has turned his life around and is
committed to moving forward with humility acknowledgment of the charges
against him, but he wants to get back to his life.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Okay, wait a minute. I don't know if you heard
what you just said, Sidney Sumner, but you're saying that
Combs is saying, I'm sorry, I acknowledge I was convicted,
but I want my free life outside of jail. So
how can you acknowledge that you were convicted on two
felonies but think you can walk free? That is what
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he is saying to doctor Dwayne Hendricks joining me former
warden MDC Brooklyn, so much more. He is the founder
of the New Daylight Foundation and author of Who Are
You See It? Say It Sees It? I'm going to
get to you in just a moment, Doctor Hendrix, about
Sean Combs's threats to victims and witnesses from behind bars
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that we know of, and his most recent text from
behind bars eyeballs watching you and then he deleted it.
I got to figure out why does he have access
to social media anyway? But doctor Hendrix, could you explain
to me how many the percentage of inmates that quote
find God behind bars and think that that somehow is
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going to get them out of jail.
Speaker 12 (28:18):
Well, I mean it's possible, and for the most part,
anyone who has found religion or went into depths of
their religion to find themselves and create a new person,
it takes years. It don't take months for that. And
it's a slap in the face that the attorneys are
calling or saying that it's the victims fault they provoked
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him into violence. I mean, how can you take ownership
for your actions while at the same time blaming the
victims in this case. Well, if his legal team or
if Sean Colmes his family is listening to take ownership,
the own and own is obligate. You have to obligate
yourself to the behavior. The w and own is withdrawn.
You have to withdraw from the actions, and he hasn't
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shown that yet. And the end and on is navigate.
He has to navigate himself to himself to a different outcome.
And I'm really upset with these articles that are out.
I mean, on one end, you're saying you're pating classes,
you're watching sermons, and you're doing all this stuff. But
at the same time, your lawyers are trying to get
you out on bail on the same pack as they've
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used several times already. And there he's talking about it's
the victim's fault. This is a bunch of crap. He
needs to sit back, take real responsibility for his actions
and wait for his sentencing and hope that he doesn't
get the full ten years for each one of these counts.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Crime stories with.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Nancy Gray Pillow debate joining me veteran trial lawyer, joining
us out of the LA jurisdiction. Look, deb don't get
me wrong. I'm all about the Lord providing mercy and
forgiveness and great, But the Lord can do that behind bars, right.
He doesn't need to be in his fifty million dollar
mansion throwing freek coughs to get mercy and grace from heaven?
Speaker 8 (30:10):
Does he the federal pen is not a temple of justice.
That's not what it is.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Listen.
Speaker 8 (30:16):
I think he has finally come to the realization that
the Feds ain't plan. He has been locked up long
enough to really get a good whiff of what it
means to be behind bars. He can be the comeback kid,
because this has really scared him straight. I sincerely doubt
that if you grant the man bond that he is
going to re offend, disobey court orders, or not return
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to court. I say, give the guy a break. The
only problem with giving him that break is that he
stops earning credit in the event that the judge actually
gives him prison time. So to me, what this court
is really sort of telegraphing to him is that he
is going to get time behind bars. He's not going
to interrupt the cruel confinement credit and off you'll go
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to do his prison sentence, and I predict three to
five years.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
He says he wants a second chance. Didn't he already
have a second chance? Remember this, it's so difficult to
reflect on the darkest times in your life.
Speaker 5 (31:21):
Sometimes you got to do that.
Speaker 12 (31:24):
I was.
Speaker 5 (31:27):
I mean, I had rock bottom, but I made no excuses.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
My behavior on that video is inexcusable.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
I take full responsibility for my ashes in that video.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
I'm disgusted.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
But yet, Lynn Shaw, he is now telling the judge
the women provoked him to violence. How is that taking responsibility?
How is trying to get out of punishment taking responsibility.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
I'm completely sick hearing all of this, seeing him even talk.
Let's play that Cassie video over and over again on
a loop. Let me tell you something. He is taking
no responsibility for anything. He's fake, he's phony, He's a predator,
he's a pimp. He is as sex trafficker. Let us
use this dirty ditty case. This is my dream, Nancy,
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that we use this case as a point of education
in society. Because remember the jury, they did not convict
him for sex trafficking. I think he's a sex trafficker.
But anyway, I'm not a lawyer, I wasn't on the jury.
But let us use us to teach society what is
exactly sex trafficking. It has a whole different meaning. Let
us teach the justice system. We have new definitions of
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sex trafficking. Sex trafficking victims, trauma, trauma bonding. That is
my hope that we can use this case and that
we can reform society about victims, victims, victims, victims.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
I'm going to keep saying it.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
That's what our focus should be on. He thinks he
is seeking redemption, no way, and the judge is smart enough.
I believe he's not going to give him anything and
let him out anywhere.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Speaking of second chances, you saw the apology video. It
was after that video, following the Cassaventure a beatdown, not
the beatdown itself, but the release of the video from
the Intercontinental Hotel. That's when he apologized, not immediately after
that vicious beating.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Now, after releasing.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
The video, he goes on to beat and torture and
intimidate other victims up unto the night. He's going to
get arrested, planning another freak cough, another freak off.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
The fans find.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
The free cough in Disha in his hotel room. Let's
take a look at this line ahole technical legal term. Disgusted.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
Then when I did it, I'm disgusting Now.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
I went and I sought out professional help.
Speaker 5 (34:09):
God to going to therapy. We're going to rehad.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Had asked God for his mercy and grace.
Speaker 13 (34:19):
He used to really like me a lot, but I
think when I ran for politics, he'd sort of that
relationship busted up from what I read. I don't know
he didn't tell me that, but I'd read some little
bit nasty statements.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
So I would certainly look at the facts. If I
think somebody was mistreated, whether.
Speaker 5 (34:36):
They like me or don't like me, it wouldn't have
any impact on me.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
That's where friends at Fox and he's Trump, don't do it.
Don't do it. You already knee deep. Let me say
elbow deep and alligators with the whole Epstein drama pardoning
a convicted felon that was charged with sex trafficking in
(34:59):
the middle the Epstein debacle will not help anything. I
don't want to hear any more talk about a pardon
for Sean Comes This as we learn Shawn Comes is
victims and fear that the judge may go along with
this bond request straight out to Tasa Tales joining us.
(35:21):
You can find it at Tasa Tales on YouTube. What
about It Tasa Tales.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
The victims are not just scared, they have moved into
being terrified.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
They are taking evasive actions.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
My sources are telling me that they.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
Are literally acting like a depraved mob boss is back
on the street. And the one thing that victims keep
repeating to me that I find the most heartbreaking is,
is anybody besides you, Nancy, if anybody besides you.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Actually going to speak truth to power.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
This man has been in a program to reimpow himselves,
not just for domestic violence, not just for dating violence,
but for a sexual assault. That is what that program
is for. It covers all three things. He's been in
that program for two weeks. He was in a getting
professional help, and in drug rehab when he was busted
with what looked like half of the pharmacy department at CBS.
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It is laughable that these narratives are being able to
be set forth and the victims feel so.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
Angry about it, so angry that listen, he might be persuasive, he.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
Might be a liar, but it is up to us
to hold the line and point out this man is lying.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
It is impossible.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
What domestic violence like what victims said to me, what
domestic abuser or rapist do you know within two months
of therapy, that's not even enough for you? To figure
out the quick smoking or to put the last twinkie
down and just go to bed and.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Eat a healthy diet. The fact that we are acting.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
Like this man is changed all because he said so,
and his words over and over.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Point the lies.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
And at this point the victims are scared, looking around
saying does anybody see reality? Is anybody going to protect us?
Speaker 2 (37:05):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (37:05):
Hey, Jesa tells, you're giving me an eerie flashback, because
that's what Cassie Ventura said as she was being beaten
by Shawn Combs and he was standing over her with
a whiskey glass over his head to throw at her face.
And she turned and looked at all of his minions
and said, is nobody seeing this? And that's my question
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right now to the judge and to President Trump, is
nobody seeing what happened in the courtroom. You cannot give
Shawn comes and appeal bond or a pardon.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
You cannot.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
I swear the courthouse will crumble down around me if
I ever quit screaming. You are not getting an appeal bond.
The victims and witnesses in fear listen.
Speaker 6 (37:57):
Now that Shawn Combs has been acquitted of the most
serious charges against him, and is arguing for pre sentencing release.
Many of those who spoke out against him fear retaliation.
Dannity Kaine, Singers, De Woods, and Dawn Richard cite Comb's
penchant for making threats as fuel for their concern. Wood's
going so far as to stay in a hotel instead
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of her home. Didty's former chef Jordan Atkinson, who was
beaten at least once according to a former assistant, posted
an anxious video expressing fear for her safety if Combs
were to be released. Charre Hayes, hired to have sex
with Cassie on several occasions, says he's seen no indication
that harm will come to him, but is not free
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of concern.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
When you don't know a horse, look at his track record.
Don't you recall what happened before the trial? From behind bars? Listen?
Speaker 2 (38:52):
Sean Combs isn't just.
Speaker 6 (38:53):
Monitoring social media from behind bars, according to federal prosecutors
did he is relentlessly attempting to blackmail potential witnesses. The
Fed say Colmbs has been using other MDC inmates phone
access codes to make surreptitious calls. Combs then uses his
sons to loop in a third party or directly contacts
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unauthorized individuals. While the contents of the calls have been
redacted in court documents, prosecutors say the conversations clearly outline
Comb's in ten to silence witnesses.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
To the point one of the alleged victims in the
indictment was in no show at court she would not testify. Gee,
I wonder why Sidney Summery joining me crime stories investigative reporter.
And in the last days leading up to tonight and
this bond request, Shawn Combs actually posts from behind bars
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with eyes I'm watching you and then deletes it.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Explain.
Speaker 10 (39:55):
Yeah, it's unclear if Seawn Combs himself made that tweet.
But Friday night, these two I emojis are posted to
his x account and it's very quickly deleted. So we
know previously that Polme's children have access to his social media,
and I'm sure he has at least ten people working
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on a social media presence before he was arrested. So
it's unclear if this was just made in complete error,
or is this maybe a suggestion that comes out a
stop to a contraby.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
Him cell phone stop, please send me you're my ears
are bleeding.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
What are you saying for you.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
Of all people who have studied this case so carefully
to suggest that Sean Combs would release a text or
an emoji or a post on accident, No, Rob Shooter.
Everything he does is choreographed. He sent out or arranged
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to be sent out. I'm watching you. It happened. That
was none you know what. Get rid of her? Mike
cut Sydney Sumner's Mike. She can no longer speak. You're
in Nancyland now, Sydney. What about it? Shooter?
Speaker 5 (41:15):
Oh, I don't want to end up in Nancyland. I
feel a little bit nervous here. But let me say
you are right.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
Nothing he does.
Speaker 5 (41:22):
Is by accident. He's a master manipulator, he's a master marketer,
and so this is no accident. Here to to think
it is. It is just playing into a silly, silly narrative.
He's watching, He's going to remember stuff. He is somebody
who doesn't forget. He holds a grudge for a very
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long time. We store what he allegedly did to kid
Kadiya during the trial. He wants vengeance, and this narrative
that he is out there for giving people seeing the light,
turning the page. Nonsense. Diddy is Diddy, and let me
predict he's going to be even more Did he now
that he thinks he got away with it?
Speaker 2 (42:05):
Are you saying?
Speaker 1 (42:05):
Did he's gonna get didified? Okay, I'll take that with
a box assault.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
Let's talk about how in the Hay?
Speaker 1 (42:13):
Doctor, Dwayne Hendrix, you're on the hot seat now, Hendricks
former warden NBC Brooklyn also warden Sherdan Oregon senior warden,
US Department of Justice, author of Who Are You See It? Say?
It's season? How in the Hay is Sean Combs able
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to intimidate, threaten, possibly bribe witnesses not to testify, not
to show up, to shut the hay up, and then
get on social media and Santa, I'm watching you emoji.
Speaker 12 (42:46):
Well, it happens all the time, and typically it mays
use their family friends.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
What did you just say?
Speaker 1 (42:55):
The reason he did it is because it happens all
the time. I'm saying, how is he allowed to do this?
You know?
Speaker 2 (43:00):
Oh, it happens all the time.
Speaker 1 (43:01):
That is a lot of reasons. Is done doesn't mean
it should be done.
Speaker 12 (43:06):
He's not allowed to do it from a cell obviously,
he shouldn't have a cell phone. But typically inmates will
email their family members and they'll say, hey, can you
post this for me? Can you send this message out
for me? Whether it's their Facebook, their Twitter, their Instagram,
or whatever. So that's that's typically how that happens. So
it's probably one of his family members who has control
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over his social media is doing these posts, and it
would take the staff about ten minutes.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
Just here, Rob Shooter, he knows, comes doctor Hendrix. This
is not some rogue post by a family member. If
a family member did it, it was at Combs's direction.
Did you not just hear Shooter?
Speaker 2 (43:53):
He practically lived with.
Speaker 12 (43:54):
It exactly, And that's what I was, and that's what
I was saying. Now, see he probably it would take
the staff, I minuged to figure out if there was
some communication from him via email or viing the phone.
All those phone calls and monitored, and it would take
five seconds to figure that out. If he did ask
them to go ahead and post and delete that that
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those eye emojis, and it happens all the time.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
You're giving me a horrible flashback.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
I don't guess you saw the shirtless selfie that was
posted from Behind Bars by Alex Murdock The Double Oh good,
why do I have to see this? Take that down
and me I don't want to see that.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
I just mentioned it.
Speaker 1 (44:40):
That means you have to put it up for the
world to see and burn my corneas again. The entitlement,
The entitlement. Philip Dubay of Sean comes posting from behind
bars that I'm watching you emoji.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
Really I hope he's watching right now.
Speaker 8 (45:00):
Yeah, but what if hypothetically a family member had access
to his social media and put that up, not knowing
what type of incriminating effect it could have, And let's
just pretend that he really did order that he was
at the helmet that protestin child there's somebody who works
under him to post that. Do you really believe hypothetically
that if Cassie or Jane went into court seeking an
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immediate tro that a judge would find irreparable harmon issue
the tro based on that. No way, right now, there
is absolutity.
Speaker 1 (45:32):
No. I asked you about his sense of entitlement and
you're just spinning it out to a tro.
Speaker 2 (45:37):
No, the victims and witnesses are hiding.
Speaker 1 (45:40):
They've all gone to ground, right now because they're afraid
the judge might just grant bond entitlement, Doctor Cheryl Errett entitlement.
How dare he do it himself or direct somebody to
do it? Was nobody listening to Rob Sheeter, I was
nothing happens by chance with Sean Comes he sent out
that I'm watching you emoji or had it sent out,
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doctor Cheryl.
Speaker 7 (46:02):
That's exactly right. This is absolutely consistent with power and
control tactics, intimidation, threats, not wanting to be told, no,
reminding people that there are other people watching them. All
of these things are instrumental in controlling other people's behavior
to try to get what he wants. And I agree,
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I don't think there's any way that this was by accident.
Speaker 1 (46:28):
Rob Shooter, is nobody listening, You might as well hang
your head out of the cab on Third Avenue and
scream it. Did nobody see the kig Cuttings car bombed?
Did nobody see the testimony of the assistant who took
the fifth and god immunity, who jumped in the car
with Sean Combs to go shoot allegedly arrival at the diner.
(46:54):
It goes on and on and on and now he's
claiming the women made him beat them, and he's sending
up my watching you that was.
Speaker 5 (47:05):
No accident, No, no, no, Before he went to jail, Nancy,
somebody very senior who worked with Diddy. I don't think
they do anymore, but somebody very senior called me texting
me to let me know that he was watching me.
And so this is a guy who who is aware
of what's going on. He holds a brudge, Nancy, and
people should be concerned. I don't think I'm scared, but
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I am definitely keeping one extra eye open if he
gets out. When he gets out, I think a lot
of people should be should be worried. This is a
very dangerous man.
Speaker 1 (47:40):
Did tell you about me? What do you mean by
a lot of people should be scared?
Speaker 5 (47:45):
I think I think people that have talked like people
that have been brave enough like you, Nancy Grace, to
literally talk about this day after day to expose it.
I think we should be concerned.
Speaker 1 (47:58):
So what should I go? Hire them?
Speaker 2 (47:59):
I super secret layer hide from Diddy?
Speaker 1 (48:05):
Uh? Okay, Rob Shooter. All the people claiming that I'm
watching you text, I mean posting by Sean Combs was
an accident? You hear Philip Dubey spinning it out and
my own Sydney summer saying maybe it was an accident.
It was no accident. What would happen if this guy
walks free on bond. How could the judge sit down
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in the law library where they all go to eat
with the other judges at lunchtime. How can he look
them in the eyeshooter and say, yeah, I gave him
an appeal bond.
Speaker 5 (48:43):
Yeah. It's completely, completely a parallel universe to the to
the reality that I think most of us are living
in here. It's really concerning. He's a dangerous person. We've
seen the video, we've heard the testimony. The jury decided
that he wasn't guilty of the really serious serious child
is However, nobody could argue that this is a good man,
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that this is a kind man, that this is a
man you can trust. He's dangerous and he's powerful, and
that combination makes a lot of people very, very nervous.
Did he also holds a grudge? I know the man.
This is somebody who does not let by guns be
buy guns. He's got a list, I'm sure of people
who are going to be going to be someone that
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should be concerned, Nancy, this this guy is not going
to stop. I predict maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow.
Maybe in a few years he'll be back on trial.
He won't change. He's going to continue the behavior until
he is forced forced to stop.
Speaker 1 (49:42):
Bits through the roof. How long will did he stay
behind bars?
Speaker 2 (49:47):
My bed is?
Speaker 6 (49:48):
It's not how long did he is going to do?
Speaker 5 (49:51):
Time?
Speaker 1 (49:52):
And how long he's going to stay at it?
Speaker 9 (49:53):
You so only a matter of time before Diddy is
his own and dooing a leopard does not change their
right and right now Ditty is wearing a full four code.
Speaker 1 (50:04):
I don't know what will the judge do and yet
another bond attempt?
Speaker 2 (50:10):
Will the judge agree?
Speaker 1 (50:12):
With the gaming platform Roadblocks what listen?
Speaker 6 (50:17):
In California, parents are suing the popular online gaming platform Roadblocks,
alleging users of all ages can access Ditty freak off
themed games. The now removed games had names like Ditty Survival,
Freaky Ditty Simulator, Midnight at Ditty's Party, and Nice Try Ditty,
featuring characters bearing the musician's face. The one hundred and
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five page filing said Roadblocks as games trivialize and gamifying
serious criminal conduct, including rape and provided reports that showed
a user registered as a nine year old could access
the content.
Speaker 1 (50:53):
To my colleague, Lynn Shaw, do you ever just feel
like crying mmm or going cray and just tearing up
the courtroom? Did you hear that parents suing the gaming
platform Roadblocks for trivializing free coughs and rape? Didty survival
(51:19):
Freak Diddy simulator midnight at Ditty's party? Nice Try Diddy.
They have no idea what rape and trafficking victims live through.
Speaker 4 (51:29):
Lynn Shaw, Yeah, and Nancy, I can never cry or
break down in public or show an you that because
somebody has to do this work. You're doing it, I'm
doing it. We're all doing it here on the panel.
I have to say we have to be the strong
ones for those that are vulnerable and have no voices.
We do a lot of work behind the scenes at
the Warriors with legislation with Big Tech in holding them
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accountable for these gaming platforms. We're very involved with roadblocks.
Right now, there's no age verification. You can check off
a box and say you're eighteen. We've got six year
old on there.
Speaker 1 (52:00):
Most of the other.
Speaker 4 (52:01):
Platforms as well. When is Big Tech going to be
held accountable. When are we going to hold somebody like
dirty did he accountable?
Speaker 2 (52:10):
Because I want to.
Speaker 4 (52:10):
I want to leave you with one thing. He has
every characteristic of a pimp, a predator, a trafficker. He's insistent,
he's persistent, he thinks he's right, and he's never going
to stop. And you know what, if he gets out,
I guarantee when we come back in a couple of
years to talk about this, he will be right back
in jail, in prison because he will reoffend and up
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the ante and do more harm to the public.
Speaker 1 (52:34):
Judge President Trump, don't do this thing. Do not let
Sean Combs out on appeal bond, contrary to the law,
and do not consider a pardon. He is a convicted felon.
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He didn't win. We wait as justice unfolds, and we
remember an American hero. Patrolman John Wilding, Scranch, PD, just
twenty nine, killed in the line of duty. Leaves behind
his grieving wife, Kristen, and two children, Lola and Sydney.
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American hero Patrolman John Wilding Nancy Gray Sarning off his
boyfriend
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace choir boy Diddy, Yes, that's right.
His lawyer actually described him, as his words, an actual
choir boy that listens to one sermon every week behind bars,
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try a sermon every day and twice on Sundays.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
I want bail.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Yes, I told you he is going to try and
get bail again. And what is his lame excuse this time?
That it's the women's fault, the victim's fault. You remember
Cassie Ventier getting dragged up and down the hotel hallway.
He says, the women's the women's provoked him to violence.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
It's their fault.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
What should they be behind bars? And the choir boy
walks free? Oh double l InOH Diddy, I mean Ansy Grace.
This is Crime Stories. I want to thank you for
being with us. Did he behind bars? That? Did he jail?
Watch as Shawn Combs heads for sentencing Seawn Comes trying
every trick in the book to walk free. How long
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will did he stay behind bars?
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Does it never end with Sean Comes?
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Listen, judge, We've been warned by let's see eminem, you
name it. Even Combs goes on the late night talk shows.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Talking about locking women in for.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Sex appeal bond over my cold dead body.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Nobody gets an appeal bond.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
What is an appeal bond? It's after you're convicted, after
a jury says you did it. Now go to jail.
You say you want to walk free until the appellate
court rules on your complaints. He could appeal that all
the way up to the US Supreme Court.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
For beat's sake, what do we know?
Speaker 1 (02:03):
We know Sean Comes is making another bid at bail,
and this isn't just bond. This is an appeal bond.
Joining me an all star panel to make sense of
what we know right now, and this as victims out, they're.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Quaking in their boots.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
The judge just might let him go straight out to
TISA Tales, joining US investigator a star off TISA Tales
on YouTube. Tisa again. Listen, Diddy is literally living up
to his name. Can't stop, won't stop. But this last
one is almost laughable.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Okay, it would be funny if it wasn't so sad.
We haven't even been a month since the jury let
him off. On the more serious chargers. The judge was clear,
you are a violent criminal. I don't care if it's
domestic violence. I see through your act. Not only are
you violent, but you're dangerous and.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
It will come out of the blue.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
We cannot predict this.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
On top of that, when we found you, you we're ready.
You had a roving freak call party ready, complete with
the stripper hills, the Tucci, some pills on the side
because he likes the washes, Tucci down, whoop pills, and
a woman in.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
This hotel room.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
All that was missing was the sex worker.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Atisa tells the night Sean Combs arrested and he knows
it's coming. He knows he's gonna be taken in. He
plans a free cough that night. That said to Rob Shooter,
joining us PR guru that actually worked for Combs for
a really long time star of Naughty but Nice podcast.
(03:36):
He's at robshooter dot substack dot com. Robshooter. What is
wrong with this guy? What did he not get the
first time? What is this his third fourth attempt at
bond And the judge keeps saying the same thing over
and over and over.
Speaker 5 (03:51):
Yeah, this is a guy that does not accept the answer. No,
that is just not in his vocabulary. He will not
accept it. He's never accepted it throughout his career, and
I think after this really disturbing verdict, he now feels empowered.
He's not focusing on the crimes he has been convicted of.
He is focusing on the crimes that he has not
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been found guilty of, and that has empowered him. He
feels like a winner at the moment. His fans feel
like he is a winner. And so he's going to
fight this and if he loses, he's going to fight
it again until he gets the result he wants.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
You know, the judge in this case indicated he was
not at all swayed by Sean Combs, his lawyers even
going back to wait for it. Agna Fello calling Sean
Combs a choir boy his words, My client's an actual
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choir boy. He watches online sermons every week. That's total
b s. Did he ever darkened the door of a church,
a synagogue, a mosque and anything during the time you
worked for him. Did he make charitable contributions? Did he
try to help anybody but himself?
Speaker 5 (05:12):
He helped himself, Nancy, It was always about him. If
did he was going to turn up at a charity
and an event at a church, at a religious organization.
It was always about him. But I think here the
point we're missing is his lawyers have been really successful.
I thought he was going to go to jail for
a really long time. I was wrong. He practically got
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off this, and so they believe in themselves. They believe him.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Hold on a Shooter. Maybe I've got all of my
facts wrong. But where are Sean comes right now?
Speaker 5 (05:41):
He's in jail, Nancy Grace. He is in jail.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
No, okay, So he didn't get off. And that's a
very poor choice of words, by the way. So he
didn't get off. He's behind bars. Is he not rob Shooter?
Speaker 5 (05:56):
You are right, Nancy Grace. He is behind bars, but
in his mind, in his mind, he is already out.
He's planning his comeback. He thinks he'd beat the system.
And I think a lot of people, including me, I
feel like he beat the system. Here he is in jail.
He could be away for five ten years. You're absolutely right,
but this is not what I think we all wanted
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the outcome to be. I thought he had been in
jail for the rest of his life. Didn't happen.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Well, what do you have to say about this? That
part of his claim that he deserves an appeal bond,
which is unheard of. Unheard of, nobody gets an appeal
bond after they've already been convicted by a jury. Part
of his claim is the women's it's therefore they provoked
me to violence. Did you not see the Casi venture video?
(06:47):
Did you not see the pictures of the bruises all
over her body?
Speaker 5 (06:51):
Well, it's great, it's their fault.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Are you not hearing this, Nancy?
Speaker 5 (06:56):
It's worked for him. He did this during the trial.
Blame Cassie. He claimed that she wanted this somehow. He
claimed she enjoyed the sex. She was a willing participant,
and a jury Nancy, maybe not you, maybe not me,
but a jury decided he was right. And so he
at the minute feels empowered. He feels bolder than ever
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and empowered.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Did he is a dangerous I don't see that lip
right there? You know what? You just keep talking about
how he feels, Shooter, I don't care how he feels.
And he is not an actual choir boy. Those were
the words of the defense attorney Agnafello to Lynn Shaw,
joining me. Apparently I can't talk any sense into Rob Shooter,
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he said, one too many Diddy doses. Tonight, Lynn Shaw
joining me, founder director Linz Warriors, committed to ending sex trafficking,
and you can hear her on YouTube. Host of Lin's Warriors,
Lynn the claim the women made me do it. Do
you remember the comedian Flip Wilson. His catch line was
(08:03):
the devil made me do it, and he became a
millionaire with that phrase. That's what Shawn Kimes is doing.
The women's provoked to me, it's the women's fault.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
What Nancy, Let's go back a little bit. This dirty
Diddy playbook, Okay, blaming the women, blaming the victims. This
is as old as time. We see it constantly in court,
we see it constantly in our environment. We work with
you know, with the warriors, with victims and survivors. But
I want to remind everybody the dirty Diddy world, the music,
(08:33):
the rap, they disregard women and girls. They think of
them as objects, I dare say, garbage. So we have
to go into I'm thinking constantly about that jury, that jury,
because I agree with Rob. You know, we had to
put out all kinds of statements and saying we really
thought this would be a sex trafficking charge.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Yes he's in jail.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
Yes he'll probably serve two to three years, some kind
of light sentence. But in our book, Seawn Combs is
a sex trafficker, a pimp, a predator.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Choir boy.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
So they can flap their lips all they want, but
they did succeed somewhat because that jury did not give
him all of these charges. And it's very very.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Displace by the victims and by see Cassie Ventura's fast Well,
the jury did not see the ball lip. The jury
is going in front of a judge claiming the women,
the victims in this case, provoked him to violence.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
It's their fault. Listen.
Speaker 6 (09:34):
Seawan Combe's team argues the rap mogul should not be
behind bars for his swinger lifestyle and says Combs does
not pose a danger to anyone should he be released.
Attorneys right that Combs enrolled in a domestic violence program
and participated in it until his arrest, also arguing that
the latest violent episode with Jane in June twenty twenty
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four was provoked by Jane's own violence towards him.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Classic to doctor Cheryl Erict joining us for renowned clinical
forensic psychologist specializing in trauma recovery, Doctor Cheryl.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
This is classic in every case I ever had.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Which by the time I got it was a domestic
violence felony. In every case in prior beatings and tortures,
the defendant, typically a man, blamed the woman.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
It's always her fault.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
She made me do it. And if the judge falls
for this BS, I'm going to do a backflip on
the courthouse steps.
Speaker 7 (10:40):
Yes, what they teach in courses like the one he's
taking supposedly now, in domestic violence courses is she can
make him angry, but she cannot make him hit. She
is never responsible for his violence, and all domestic violence
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is not created equally. One of the things that we've
seen here is that he's gone for the throat. He
has committed choking, and we've seen all sorts of horrific
things he's done, but choking victims are more than seven
hundred and fifty times more likely to be killed by
the offender within the next year than any other type
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of violence. Stalking and choking are both very high lethality
types of violence and domestic violence, as I'm sure you know,
and somebody who's done the things that we can see
on this video is incredibly dangerous and has been incredibly
dangerous to the people who testified against him.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
He's a danger and rob. Sheter another issue, how many
times when you work for Sean Combs did you see
him try unsuccessfully, try unsuccessfully, try unsuccessfully, and then be
successful get what he wanted. What kind of message is
it going to send if Judge Cebermanium says over and
(12:02):
over and over, no bond, no bon, no bon, You're
a danger. You're a danger. You've been contacting witnesses, you've
been threatening victims behind bars, and then suddenly goes, yeah,
you're right, you're walking free. It's happened before with Sean Combs.
He always says to get what he wants, regardless of
the cost to other people.
Speaker 5 (12:22):
Absolutely, it's the story of his life. If he can't
get through the front door, he'll go through the window.
If he can't get through the window, he'll come down
the chimney. He's used to get in his own way.
He said something to me once that really stuck with me,
and at the time it was sort of like an
inspiring quote that I've used in my career. But now
knowing what we know about him, it's terrifying. He used
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to tell me that the road to success is paved
with failure. Let me say that again. The road to success,
the road to getting what he thinks his success is
what he wants, is paved with failure. He doesn't mind failure,
He gets back up, he tries a.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
The road to success is paved with failure.
Speaker 5 (13:04):
You know what.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Stop Stop. Let's focus on the message that this would
send if the judge allows Seawan Colms to walk free
on an appeal. By hold on, I'm going to perform
an experiment with Philip Debay. An experiment, Philip Debay, is
it physically possible for you to answer in one word
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either yes or no. Philip Debay is actually a renowned
defense attorney. Uh, former LA County public defender has tried
a ton of cases. Debay, isn't it true that it's
very very rare for a convicted felon to get an
(13:49):
appeal bond? Yes? Okay, I can't believe it. Somebody bring
me the smelling salts right now. He only did not
to torture me because I said he couldn't do it,
and he did it just to it back at me.
Explain why, Debate.
Speaker 8 (14:02):
No, they're presumptively going to prison because of the sentencing guidelines.
A jury found them guilty. I respectfully disagree with the
court because there are exceptions. I think the only thing
that this jury verdict sends a message about is that
he cornered the market on bolt by body oil. Seriously,
remember he beat the top charges, which necessarily means they
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could not prove that he committed any of the predicates.
No arson, no kidnap, you know what else, No trafficking,
no bribery, no forest labor, no drug distribution, all of that.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
So you agree with the jury, yet you disagree with
the jury. You want it both ways. You want your cake.
You want to eat it too. Guess what, the cake's
all gone because you ate it.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
You can't have.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Yeah, they were right when they let them off at
three counts, but they were wrong when they convicted them
of two counts. So pick debate.
Speaker 8 (14:54):
No, what I'm saying is whether or not he gets
out on bond is not a jury issue at this point.
It's a really any shoot for the court. The jury
doesn't get to make.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
And that's not what it sounded like you were saying. No,
what's the likelihood, what's the vagus ar geral that he's
going to walk on an appeal. Beard, Yeah, that's what
I think too. And back to you, shooter, if you can,
you know, get the antidote to your diddy dose. You
actually shot up this morning. You had to. What message
will it send if the judge goes along with this.
Speaker 5 (15:25):
It sends two different types of messages to two different
types of people, to the rest of us, to the public,
to victims out there. It's a terrible, terrible message. To
did He, it is a glorious message. It will prove
to him what he thinks, which is he is above
the law, that he is special, that he is a wizard.
He has gotten away with a lot. Nancy, I would
not put this past him.
Speaker 9 (15:47):
People are taking beds to see how long Sean Divicoms
is going to stay behind bars?
Speaker 10 (15:53):
How long did he will stay behind bars?
Speaker 2 (15:57):
What kind of sentencing will he get?
Speaker 4 (15:59):
A lot of attorneys were mind blown.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
By the fact that did He was staying behind bars
based on prostitution charges or a prostitution conviction alone. Did
he might stay in there for five to ten years.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
The Man Act transporting people across state lines to perform
illegal sex acts while Shawn Combs assists he's the only
one that's ever been prosecuted for that. That is far
from true. But I want to find out what are
the terms that he is proposing to the judge For
those of you just joining us, that's right, Shawn Combs
(16:34):
at it again, going back to the well, trying to
get a long cold drink of water asking for bond.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Guess what did he.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Doesn't like being behind bars? What do we know to
Tisa Tal's joining us? He is a star of Tisa
tales on YouTube. Investigative reporter Tisa. What are the terms
of the bond that he is proposing?
Speaker 3 (16:59):
The terms of the are actually near like the first
term that got rejected. He's saying, I'll give you fifty million.
I'll give three verified references to make sure. I'm sure
those three references are probably his son. He's saying that
he's going to have in house security, he's going to
wear ankle monitoring, and he only wants permission to travel
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from New York to Miami.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
The only thing is all the.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Havoc you reaped was majority in New York and Miami,
with a little California sprinkled on the side. People are
saying that he's offering up the same thing because again,
like Pop said, he thinks he's a musician, but I
mean a magician. But the funniest thing you would say
is the fact that he is still one hundred percent pushing.
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He is the victim, and he somehow thinks that if
he can turn this all around, he will be out.
They're planning some type of August festivity in Star Island,
and he is literally also going around telling people that
we're reporting on him that he doesn't hold any hostile
feelings toward them and that he's ready to actually move forward. Again,
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when you add that into the time, when you add
that into the fact that he just entered this program
on the what is it, two weeks ago, and he
is now trying to spend that he is so repentent and.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Not a danger.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
When you add in the fact that, on top of
that bellbond at a pr which I think is an
empty promise, he's also floating unofficially that he's going to
open up some type of shelter for battered women and children.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
We'll see if that ever comes about.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
It looks like he is playing in the court space.
It looks like it's a mockery and it looks like
he is laughing in victims' faces. The jury got it wrong, Nancy,
I one hundred percent believe that. But Judge Aaron held
the line and the good fight, and again, domestic violence
is still violent.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
You are violent, You are unpredictable. Sounds like a predator
to me.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
So thank goodness that the legal odds are in favor
of him actually staying behind bars.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
You know, you mentioned that he was drumming up at
least three reference laughters, and I found out who the
references are. Let's see, first choices, Lucifer builds a bub
and Judas is Scariot. Lucifer builds a bub and Judas
is Scariot. And if those won't work, he's going for
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Rex Huerman, Scott Peterson, and Jody Arius. So we'll see
what what what sway that has on the judge. Lucifer
builds a bub, Judas is Scariot. Second choices, Rex Human,
Scott Peterson, and Jody Arius.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
They won. Okay, there's a lot of things that he
can teach them.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
What are the terms of the bond requests?
Speaker 1 (19:44):
As Testales just pointed out, they're basically the terms that
he put up last time when he offered his forty
eight million dollar Miami home his mother's two million Miami home.
I wonder how she feels about that. He pledges to
limit travel to New York, New Jersey and Florida, and
that would be oh so close to Teeterborough private airstrip,
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multiple private airstrips in Florida. Hey, maybe he'll use JN.
Travolta's private jet strip to leave the country. That he
will keep his private jet parked in La Okay. That's
the point of a jet to fly wherever you want to.
We're a GPS tracking device. He goes on and on
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and on and Angnafello Vow's quote, we're going to get
mister Combs out of jail now, speaking of the forty
eight million dollar mansion that he's going to hole up in.
What do we know about that? Robert Crispin, the.
Speaker 11 (20:44):
Neighbors, they are really happy that there's no more attention,
there's no more late parties, three four day benders.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
The drugs in that white gay behind me.
Speaker 10 (20:56):
That's where the Feds went in with their shirt shard.
Speaker 5 (20:59):
That's where the drugs came out.
Speaker 11 (21:00):
That's where the electronic evidence came out.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
That's where everything started.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
To unfold for Diddy before he got indicted.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Straight out to Rob Shooter, Rob Shooter former PR guru
two Shawn Combs, who describes Combs demanding cheesecake at three
o'clock in the morning and getting it, ordering a fleet
of the media to reshoot the shot of him arriving
for his private jet flight because he didn't like the
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angle and guess what they did it demanding a different
seat at high style restaurants because it wasn't appropriate for
him to be seen near the kitchen, the door, or
the bathroom and blah blah blah, Rob Shooter.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
The first thing.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Shawn Combs is going to do is a throw up party,
probably a freak cough in that Miami mansion and then
have his private jets show up, clip off that ankle monitor,
and be gone to join Kanye in Paris, where they
don't care. They even have Roman Polanski who raped a
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fourteen year old girl in a hot tub after giving
her drugs and alcohol.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
They don't care. This would be.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Another feather in their cap to have Sean Combs there
along with Roman Polanski and Kanye. Yeah, that's where he
would be heartbeat.
Speaker 5 (22:33):
Does this really concerning under belly within the celebrity world?
And I think Kanye Roman Polanski are really good examples
of this. Nancy Did His career is not over. It
is not. He might actually come back and be bigger
than ever. We saw those fans outside the courthouse. They
are passionate about did He in a way that they've
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not been this passionate about him in maybe a decade.
He was, He wasn't selling records anymore, his clothing company
had pretty much gone bust. He was basically just selling vodka.
Now in a really ugly, ugly twist that should make
any decent person really angry. He is more relevant. We're
talking about him more than ever. And let me say
(23:18):
the conversation bubbling up today about bail, he will be
enjoying this. He's probably been missing us for a couple
of weeks. We've not been talking about him, He's not
been in the papers once again, did He has made
himself the topic of conversation.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
You know what Robshooter between Julayne, Maxwell Epstein and Diddy.
I'm hiding under the bed and getting an unlisted number.
I don't want my core bomb my minivan like kid
Cuddies was You know what, as much as I don't
like it, I'm afraid that what you say contains a
(23:54):
tiny grain of truth. If this is any measure. Watch
armand Wiggins celebrating half naked with a champagne shower outside
the courthouse after the verdict. From armand Wiggins Instagram, it's
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time for a Diddy makeover, his lawyers, aiming to show
he is no longer a quote bad boy for life
good luck.
Speaker 9 (24:29):
It was the defense's zone words that their client was
a violent man. Biden's public condemnation he beat Jane viciously.
Speaker 6 (24:38):
I mean, he's been dressed, in your words, as a
Harvard underground for the duration of the trial. They are
really trying to make him look like a clean cut,
humble family man. But they are fighting.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Back decades of a bad boy legacy.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
No no, no, an oh. Sean Khan was going back
to the well asking for bond again with essentially the
same conditions he's argued before, putting up his fifty million
dollar mansion, putting up his mother's two dollars million dollar mansion,
promising not to travel outside the country, and wearing an
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ankle monitor. Uh okay, no, this is what is called
an appeal bond, and it is extremely rare. I can't
even think of an appeal bond that.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Has ever happened.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
But now he is focused on quote I hope you're
sitting down, reflection, accountability, and growth listen.
Speaker 11 (25:35):
Sources close to Combs say he recognizes he cannot return
to his life as it was before the trial, and
claim the mogul is committed to doing the work to
become a better man. His legal team says Combs is
focused on reflection, accountability, and growth, and that Combs is
not seeking vindication, instead taking the opportunity to right the
wrongs one step at a time. Pr experts predict a
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tell all interview will come in due time, and Combs
will likely be making some charitable donations in the near
future in an attempt to garner public goodwill.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Isn't it true?
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Straight out to Sidney Sumner joining US Crime Stories investigative
reporter that he is now quote stuck in society septic tank.
He has been called notorious pig and more so, explain
to me what is he doing behind bars to rehab
his image? To convince the judge to let a walk
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free on bond.
Speaker 10 (26:28):
Well, apparently, Sean Combs is signed up for a number
of programs behind bars, including drug rehab, a domestic violence class,
and is even taking mental health therapy behind bars to
somehow try to prove to the judge that he's all
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of a sudden become a much better person, completely committed
to not battering women abusing drugs anymore. He's trying to
show that he has turned his life around and is
committed to moving forward with humility acknowledgment of the charges
against him, but he wants to get back to his life.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Okay, wait a minute. I don't know if you heard
what you just said, Sidney Sumner, but you're saying that
Combs is saying, I'm sorry, I acknowledge I was convicted,
but I want my free life outside of jail. So
how can you acknowledge that you were convicted on two
felonies but think you can walk free? That is what
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he is saying to doctor Dwayne Hendricks joining me former
warden MDC Brooklyn, so much more. He is the founder
of the New Daylight Foundation and author of Who Are
You See It? Say It Sees It? I'm going to
get to you in just a moment, Doctor Hendrix, about
Sean Combs's threats to victims and witnesses from behind bars
(27:53):
that we know of, and his most recent text from
behind bars eyeballs watching you and then he deleted it.
I got to figure out why does he have access
to social media anyway? But doctor Hendrix, could you explain
to me how many the percentage of inmates that quote
find God behind bars and think that that somehow is
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going to get them out of jail.
Speaker 12 (28:18):
Well, I mean it's possible, and for the most part,
anyone who has found religion or went into depths of
their religion to find themselves and create a new person,
it takes years. It don't take months for that. And
it's a slap in the face that the attorneys are
calling or saying that it's the victims fault they provoked
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him into violence. I mean, how can you take ownership
for your actions while at the same time blaming the
victims in this case. Well, if his legal team or
if Sean Colmes his family is listening to take ownership,
the own and own is obligate. You have to obligate
yourself to the behavior. The w and own is withdrawn.
You have to withdraw from the actions, and he hasn't
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shown that yet. And the end and on is navigate.
He has to navigate himself to himself to a different outcome.
And I'm really upset with these articles that are out.
I mean, on one end, you're saying you're pating classes,
you're watching sermons, and you're doing all this stuff. But
at the same time, your lawyers are trying to get
you out on bail on the same pack as they've
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used several times already. And there he's talking about it's
the victim's fault. This is a bunch of crap. He
needs to sit back, take real responsibility for his actions
and wait for his sentencing and hope that he doesn't
get the full ten years for each one of these counts.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Crime stories with.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Nancy Gray Pillow debate joining me veteran trial lawyer, joining
us out of the LA jurisdiction. Look, deb don't get
me wrong. I'm all about the Lord providing mercy and
forgiveness and great, But the Lord can do that behind bars, right.
He doesn't need to be in his fifty million dollar
mansion throwing freek coughs to get mercy and grace from heaven?
Speaker 8 (30:10):
Does he the federal pen is not a temple of justice.
That's not what it is.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Listen.
Speaker 8 (30:16):
I think he has finally come to the realization that
the Feds ain't plan. He has been locked up long
enough to really get a good whiff of what it
means to be behind bars. He can be the comeback kid,
because this has really scared him straight. I sincerely doubt
that if you grant the man bond that he is
going to re offend, disobey court orders, or not return
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to court. I say, give the guy a break. The
only problem with giving him that break is that he
stops earning credit in the event that the judge actually
gives him prison time. So to me, what this court
is really sort of telegraphing to him is that he
is going to get time behind bars. He's not going
to interrupt the cruel confinement credit and off you'll go
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to do his prison sentence, and I predict three to
five years.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
He says he wants a second chance. Didn't he already
have a second chance? Remember this, it's so difficult to
reflect on the darkest times in your life.
Speaker 5 (31:21):
Sometimes you got to do that.
Speaker 12 (31:24):
I was.
Speaker 5 (31:27):
I mean, I had rock bottom, but I made no excuses.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
My behavior on that video is inexcusable.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
I take full responsibility for my ashes in that video.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
I'm disgusted.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
But yet, Lynn Shaw, he is now telling the judge
the women provoked him to violence. How is that taking responsibility?
How is trying to get out of punishment taking responsibility.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
I'm completely sick hearing all of this, seeing him even talk.
Let's play that Cassie video over and over again on
a loop. Let me tell you something. He is taking
no responsibility for anything. He's fake, he's phony, He's a predator,
he's a pimp. He is as sex trafficker. Let us
use this dirty ditty case. This is my dream, Nancy,
(32:18):
that we use this case as a point of education
in society. Because remember the jury, they did not convict
him for sex trafficking. I think he's a sex trafficker.
But anyway, I'm not a lawyer, I wasn't on the jury.
But let us use us to teach society what is
exactly sex trafficking. It has a whole different meaning. Let
us teach the justice system. We have new definitions of
(32:40):
sex trafficking. Sex trafficking victims, trauma, trauma bonding. That is
my hope that we can use this case and that
we can reform society about victims, victims, victims, victims.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
I'm going to keep saying it.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
That's what our focus should be on. He thinks he
is seeking redemption, no way, and the judge is smart enough.
I believe he's not going to give him anything and
let him out anywhere.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Speaking of second chances, you saw the apology video. It
was after that video, following the Cassaventure a beatdown, not
the beatdown itself, but the release of the video from
the Intercontinental Hotel. That's when he apologized, not immediately after
that vicious beating.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Now, after releasing.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
The video, he goes on to beat and torture and
intimidate other victims up unto the night. He's going to
get arrested, planning another freak cough, another freak off.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
The fans find.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
The free cough in Disha in his hotel room. Let's
take a look at this line ahole technical legal term. Disgusted.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
Then when I did it, I'm disgusting Now.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
I went and I sought out professional help.
Speaker 5 (34:09):
God to going to therapy. We're going to rehad.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Had asked God for his mercy and grace.
Speaker 13 (34:19):
He used to really like me a lot, but I
think when I ran for politics, he'd sort of that
relationship busted up from what I read. I don't know
he didn't tell me that, but I'd read some little
bit nasty statements.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
So I would certainly look at the facts. If I
think somebody was mistreated, whether.
Speaker 5 (34:36):
They like me or don't like me, it wouldn't have
any impact on me.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
That's where friends at Fox and he's Trump, don't do it.
Don't do it. You already knee deep. Let me say
elbow deep and alligators with the whole Epstein drama pardoning
a convicted felon that was charged with sex trafficking in
(34:59):
the middle the Epstein debacle will not help anything. I
don't want to hear any more talk about a pardon
for Sean Comes This as we learn Shawn Comes is
victims and fear that the judge may go along with
this bond request straight out to Tasa Tales joining us.
(35:21):
You can find it at Tasa Tales on YouTube. What
about It Tasa Tales.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
The victims are not just scared, they have moved into
being terrified.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
They are taking evasive actions.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
My sources are telling me that they.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
Are literally acting like a depraved mob boss is back
on the street. And the one thing that victims keep
repeating to me that I find the most heartbreaking is,
is anybody besides you, Nancy, if anybody besides you.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Actually going to speak truth to power.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
This man has been in a program to reimpow himselves,
not just for domestic violence, not just for dating violence,
but for a sexual assault. That is what that program
is for. It covers all three things. He's been in
that program for two weeks. He was in a getting
professional help, and in drug rehab when he was busted
with what looked like half of the pharmacy department at CBS.
(36:14):
It is laughable that these narratives are being able to
be set forth and the victims feel so.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
Angry about it, so angry that listen, he might be persuasive, he.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
Might be a liar, but it is up to us
to hold the line and point out this man is lying.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
It is impossible.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
What domestic violence like what victims said to me, what
domestic abuser or rapist do you know within two months
of therapy, that's not even enough for you? To figure
out the quick smoking or to put the last twinkie
down and just go to bed and.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Eat a healthy diet. The fact that we are acting.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
Like this man is changed all because he said so,
and his words over and over.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Point the lies.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
And at this point the victims are scared, looking around
saying does anybody see reality? Is anybody going to protect us?
Speaker 2 (37:05):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (37:05):
Hey, Jesa tells, you're giving me an eerie flashback, because
that's what Cassie Ventura said as she was being beaten
by Shawn Combs and he was standing over her with
a whiskey glass over his head to throw at her face.
And she turned and looked at all of his minions
and said, is nobody seeing this? And that's my question
(37:28):
right now to the judge and to President Trump, is
nobody seeing what happened in the courtroom. You cannot give
Shawn comes and appeal bond or a pardon.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
You cannot.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
I swear the courthouse will crumble down around me if
I ever quit screaming. You are not getting an appeal bond.
The victims and witnesses in fear listen.
Speaker 6 (37:57):
Now that Shawn Combs has been acquitted of the most
serious charges against him, and is arguing for pre sentencing release.
Many of those who spoke out against him fear retaliation.
Dannity Kaine, Singers, De Woods, and Dawn Richard cite Comb's
penchant for making threats as fuel for their concern. Wood's
going so far as to stay in a hotel instead
(38:18):
of her home. Didty's former chef Jordan Atkinson, who was
beaten at least once according to a former assistant, posted
an anxious video expressing fear for her safety if Combs
were to be released. Charre Hayes, hired to have sex
with Cassie on several occasions, says he's seen no indication
that harm will come to him, but is not free
(38:39):
of concern.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
When you don't know a horse, look at his track record.
Don't you recall what happened before the trial? From behind bars? Listen?
Speaker 2 (38:52):
Sean Combs isn't just.
Speaker 6 (38:53):
Monitoring social media from behind bars, according to federal prosecutors
did he is relentlessly attempting to blackmail potential witnesses. The
Fed say Colmbs has been using other MDC inmates phone
access codes to make surreptitious calls. Combs then uses his
sons to loop in a third party or directly contacts
(39:14):
unauthorized individuals. While the contents of the calls have been
redacted in court documents, prosecutors say the conversations clearly outline
Comb's in ten to silence witnesses.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
To the point one of the alleged victims in the
indictment was in no show at court she would not testify. Gee,
I wonder why Sidney Summery joining me crime stories investigative reporter.
And in the last days leading up to tonight and
this bond request, Shawn Combs actually posts from behind bars
(39:50):
with eyes I'm watching you and then deletes it.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Explain.
Speaker 10 (39:55):
Yeah, it's unclear if Seawn Combs himself made that tweet.
But Friday night, these two I emojis are posted to
his x account and it's very quickly deleted. So we
know previously that Polme's children have access to his social media,
and I'm sure he has at least ten people working
(40:17):
on a social media presence before he was arrested. So
it's unclear if this was just made in complete error,
or is this maybe a suggestion that comes out a
stop to a contraby.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
Him cell phone stop, please send me you're my ears
are bleeding.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
What are you saying for you.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
Of all people who have studied this case so carefully
to suggest that Sean Combs would release a text or
an emoji or a post on accident, No, Rob Shooter.
Everything he does is choreographed. He sent out or arranged
(40:57):
to be sent out. I'm watching you. It happened. That
was none you know what. Get rid of her? Mike
cut Sydney Sumner's Mike. She can no longer speak. You're
in Nancyland now, Sydney. What about it? Shooter?
Speaker 5 (41:15):
Oh, I don't want to end up in Nancyland. I
feel a little bit nervous here. But let me say
you are right.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
Nothing he does.
Speaker 5 (41:22):
Is by accident. He's a master manipulator, he's a master marketer,
and so this is no accident. Here to to think
it is. It is just playing into a silly, silly narrative.
He's watching, He's going to remember stuff. He is somebody
who doesn't forget. He holds a grudge for a very
(41:43):
long time. We store what he allegedly did to kid
Kadiya during the trial. He wants vengeance, and this narrative
that he is out there for giving people seeing the light,
turning the page. Nonsense. Diddy is Diddy, and let me
predict he's going to be even more Did he now
that he thinks he got away with it?
Speaker 2 (42:05):
Are you saying?
Speaker 1 (42:05):
Did he's gonna get didified? Okay, I'll take that with
a box assault.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
Let's talk about how in the Hay?
Speaker 1 (42:13):
Doctor, Dwayne Hendrix, you're on the hot seat now, Hendricks
former warden NBC Brooklyn also warden Sherdan Oregon senior warden,
US Department of Justice, author of Who Are You See It? Say?
It's season? How in the Hay is Sean Combs able
(42:34):
to intimidate, threaten, possibly bribe witnesses not to testify, not
to show up, to shut the hay up, and then
get on social media and Santa, I'm watching you emoji.
Speaker 12 (42:46):
Well, it happens all the time, and typically it mays
use their family friends.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
What did you just say?
Speaker 1 (42:55):
The reason he did it is because it happens all
the time. I'm saying, how is he allowed to do this?
You know?
Speaker 2 (43:00):
Oh, it happens all the time.
Speaker 1 (43:01):
That is a lot of reasons. Is done doesn't mean
it should be done.
Speaker 12 (43:06):
He's not allowed to do it from a cell obviously,
he shouldn't have a cell phone. But typically inmates will
email their family members and they'll say, hey, can you
post this for me? Can you send this message out
for me? Whether it's their Facebook, their Twitter, their Instagram,
or whatever. So that's that's typically how that happens. So
it's probably one of his family members who has control
(43:29):
over his social media is doing these posts, and it
would take the staff about ten minutes.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
Just here, Rob Shooter, he knows, comes doctor Hendrix. This
is not some rogue post by a family member. If
a family member did it, it was at Combs's direction.
Did you not just hear Shooter?
Speaker 2 (43:53):
He practically lived with.
Speaker 12 (43:54):
It exactly, And that's what I was, and that's what
I was saying. Now, see he probably it would take
the staff, I minuged to figure out if there was
some communication from him via email or viing the phone.
All those phone calls and monitored, and it would take
five seconds to figure that out. If he did ask
them to go ahead and post and delete that that
(44:15):
those eye emojis, and it happens all the time.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
You're giving me a horrible flashback.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
I don't guess you saw the shirtless selfie that was
posted from Behind Bars by Alex Murdock The Double Oh good,
why do I have to see this? Take that down
and me I don't want to see that.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
I just mentioned it.
Speaker 1 (44:40):
That means you have to put it up for the
world to see and burn my corneas again. The entitlement,
The entitlement. Philip Dubay of Sean comes posting from behind
bars that I'm watching you emoji.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
Really I hope he's watching right now.
Speaker 8 (45:00):
Yeah, but what if hypothetically a family member had access
to his social media and put that up, not knowing
what type of incriminating effect it could have, And let's
just pretend that he really did order that he was
at the helmet that protestin child there's somebody who works
under him to post that. Do you really believe hypothetically
that if Cassie or Jane went into court seeking an
(45:23):
immediate tro that a judge would find irreparable harmon issue
the tro based on that. No way, right now, there
is absolutity.
Speaker 1 (45:32):
No. I asked you about his sense of entitlement and
you're just spinning it out to a tro.
Speaker 2 (45:37):
No, the victims and witnesses are hiding.
Speaker 1 (45:40):
They've all gone to ground, right now because they're afraid
the judge might just grant bond entitlement, Doctor Cheryl Errett entitlement.
How dare he do it himself or direct somebody to
do it? Was nobody listening to Rob Sheeter, I was
nothing happens by chance with Sean Comes he sent out
that I'm watching you emoji or had it sent out,
(46:01):
doctor Cheryl.
Speaker 7 (46:02):
That's exactly right. This is absolutely consistent with power and
control tactics, intimidation, threats, not wanting to be told, no,
reminding people that there are other people watching them. All
of these things are instrumental in controlling other people's behavior
to try to get what he wants. And I agree,
(46:25):
I don't think there's any way that this was by accident.
Speaker 1 (46:28):
Rob Shooter, is nobody listening, You might as well hang
your head out of the cab on Third Avenue and
scream it. Did nobody see the kig Cuttings car bombed?
Did nobody see the testimony of the assistant who took
the fifth and god immunity, who jumped in the car
with Sean Combs to go shoot allegedly arrival at the diner.
(46:54):
It goes on and on and on and now he's
claiming the women made him beat them, and he's sending
up my watching you that was.
Speaker 5 (47:05):
No accident, No, no, no, Before he went to jail, Nancy,
somebody very senior who worked with Diddy. I don't think
they do anymore, but somebody very senior called me texting
me to let me know that he was watching me.
And so this is a guy who who is aware
of what's going on. He holds a brudge, Nancy, and
people should be concerned. I don't think I'm scared, but
(47:29):
I am definitely keeping one extra eye open if he
gets out. When he gets out, I think a lot
of people should be should be worried. This is a
very dangerous man.
Speaker 1 (47:40):
Did tell you about me? What do you mean by
a lot of people should be scared?
Speaker 5 (47:45):
I think I think people that have talked like people
that have been brave enough like you, Nancy Grace, to
literally talk about this day after day to expose it.
I think we should be concerned.
Speaker 1 (47:58):
So what should I go? Hire them?
Speaker 2 (47:59):
I super secret layer hide from Diddy?
Speaker 1 (48:05):
Uh? Okay, Rob Shooter. All the people claiming that I'm
watching you text, I mean posting by Sean Combs was
an accident? You hear Philip Dubey spinning it out and
my own Sydney summer saying maybe it was an accident.
It was no accident. What would happen if this guy
walks free on bond. How could the judge sit down
(48:29):
in the law library where they all go to eat
with the other judges at lunchtime. How can he look
them in the eyeshooter and say, yeah, I gave him
an appeal bond.
Speaker 5 (48:43):
Yeah. It's completely, completely a parallel universe to the to
the reality that I think most of us are living
in here. It's really concerning. He's a dangerous person. We've
seen the video, we've heard the testimony. The jury decided
that he wasn't guilty of the really serious serious child
is However, nobody could argue that this is a good man,
(49:03):
that this is a kind man, that this is a
man you can trust. He's dangerous and he's powerful, and
that combination makes a lot of people very, very nervous.
Did he also holds a grudge? I know the man.
This is somebody who does not let by guns be
buy guns. He's got a list, I'm sure of people
who are going to be going to be someone that
(49:24):
should be concerned, Nancy, this this guy is not going
to stop. I predict maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow.
Maybe in a few years he'll be back on trial.
He won't change. He's going to continue the behavior until
he is forced forced to stop.
Speaker 1 (49:42):
Bits through the roof. How long will did he stay
behind bars?
Speaker 2 (49:47):
My bed is?
Speaker 6 (49:48):
It's not how long did he is going to do?
Speaker 5 (49:51):
Time?
Speaker 1 (49:52):
And how long he's going to stay at it?
Speaker 9 (49:53):
You so only a matter of time before Diddy is
his own and dooing a leopard does not change their
right and right now Ditty is wearing a full four code.
Speaker 1 (50:04):
I don't know what will the judge do and yet
another bond attempt?
Speaker 2 (50:10):
Will the judge agree?
Speaker 1 (50:12):
With the gaming platform Roadblocks what listen?
Speaker 6 (50:17):
In California, parents are suing the popular online gaming platform Roadblocks,
alleging users of all ages can access Ditty freak off
themed games. The now removed games had names like Ditty Survival,
Freaky Ditty Simulator, Midnight at Ditty's Party, and Nice Try Ditty,
featuring characters bearing the musician's face. The one hundred and
(50:40):
five page filing said Roadblocks as games trivialize and gamifying
serious criminal conduct, including rape and provided reports that showed
a user registered as a nine year old could access
the content.
Speaker 1 (50:53):
To my colleague, Lynn Shaw, do you ever just feel
like crying mmm or going cray and just tearing up
the courtroom? Did you hear that parents suing the gaming
platform Roadblocks for trivializing free coughs and rape? Didty survival
(51:19):
Freak Diddy simulator midnight at Ditty's party? Nice Try Diddy.
They have no idea what rape and trafficking victims live through.
Speaker 4 (51:29):
Lynn Shaw, Yeah, and Nancy, I can never cry or
break down in public or show an you that because
somebody has to do this work. You're doing it, I'm
doing it. We're all doing it here on the panel.
I have to say we have to be the strong
ones for those that are vulnerable and have no voices.
We do a lot of work behind the scenes at
the Warriors with legislation with Big Tech in holding them
(51:50):
accountable for these gaming platforms. We're very involved with roadblocks.
Right now, there's no age verification. You can check off
a box and say you're eighteen. We've got six year
old on there.
Speaker 1 (52:00):
Most of the other.
Speaker 4 (52:01):
Platforms as well. When is Big Tech going to be
held accountable. When are we going to hold somebody like
dirty did he accountable?
Speaker 2 (52:10):
Because I want to.
Speaker 4 (52:10):
I want to leave you with one thing. He has
every characteristic of a pimp, a predator, a trafficker. He's insistent,
he's persistent, he thinks he's right, and he's never going
to stop. And you know what, if he gets out,
I guarantee when we come back in a couple of
years to talk about this, he will be right back
in jail, in prison because he will reoffend and up
(52:31):
the ante and do more harm to the public.
Speaker 1 (52:34):
Judge President Trump, don't do this thing. Do not let
Sean Combs out on appeal bond, contrary to the law,
and do not consider a pardon. He is a convicted felon.
(52:55):
He didn't win. We wait as justice unfolds, and we
remember an American hero. Patrolman John Wilding, Scranch, PD, just
twenty nine, killed in the line of duty. Leaves behind
his grieving wife, Kristen, and two children, Lola and Sydney.
(53:20):
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