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October 6, 2025 44 mins

Best friends Maria Niotis and Isabella Salas ride their bikes in front of Maria’s home.

The speed limit is just 25, so the girls feel comfortable riding in the street, but with no warning, a black Jeep Compass barrels down Burnside Avenue at nearly three times the speed limit. The driver never braked, running Maria and Isabella down, and then sped off without stopping to check on the two girls.

The hit-and-run driver doesn’t get far. Police find the suspect vehicle, a black 2021 Jeep.Compass, broken down from damage sustained in the crash just blocks away on Lincoln Avenue, with a bike still lodged in the front bumper. The 17-year-old boy behind the wheel is briefly detained and ultimately released to his family with 15 traffic tickets while police continue to investigate the crash.

Meanwhile, at the crash site, witnesses call 911 and rush to the girls’ aid; one is declared dead on the scene, while the other passes away minutes later at a hospital. 

The day after teens Maria and Isabella are killed in a hit-and-run, officers arrest the 17-year-old driver, now charged as a minor with 2 counts of first-degree murder.

Union County prosecutors keep the driver’s identity private; however, traffic summons records reveal his name: Vincent P. Battiloro.

Battiloro is familiar with law enforcement, his father being an officer with Chatham PD, and his uncle, Chief of Westfield PD. The teen was also under investigation for harassing and stalking his classmate and ex-girlfriend Maria Niotis.

Joining Nancy Grace today:

  • Lisa Herrick -  Board-certified Juvenile Attorney, Partner at Varghese Summersett, and Former Juvenile Prosecutor; Instagram & Twitter: versustexas, TikTok: lisa_herrick_attorney, Facebook and Youtube: Varghese Summersett
  • Dr. Janie Lacy - Licensed Psychotherapist and CEO of Life Counseling Solutions, Author of "How To Heal From A Toxic Relationship: A Guide To Reclaiming Your Mental Health and Happiness;" Host of “The Resilient Professional” Podcast on YouTube; Instagram & Facebook: @JanieLacy
  • John Pizzuro  - Former New Jersey State Police Investigator for 25 years (worked in multiple departments, including Homicide, Organized Crime, Cartels), Former Commander of the Internet Crimes Against Children (ICAC) Task Force for the New Jersey State Police, and Currently the CEO of RAVEN, an organization focused on eliminating Child Exploitation and Trafficking 
  • Dr. Priya Banerjee - Board-certified Forensic Pathologist and Anatomic Pathologist, Anchor Forensic Pathology Consulting
  • Melissa McCarty - Reporter & Host of the “Killer Genes” Podcast, Author of “The Making of a Crime Reporter;" TikTok: McCarty143, Instagram: MelissaMcCarty1
  • Dave Mack - Crime Stories Investigative Reporter

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
According to police, a creepy teen stalker poaches girls for
months before mowing down the two little girl victims, who
are riding their e bike on a quiet neighborhood street.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
Mowed them down dead.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
I Nancy Grace, this is Crime Stories. I want to
thank you for being with us.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
Two teen girls from New Jersey were best friends who
shared countless school days and weekend adventures, found their latest
journey ending in unimaginable tragedy.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
Uh oh, my stars.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
How many times has my son or daughter gone for
a walk or gone to ride their bike?

Speaker 1 (00:57):
And yeah, I'd be a.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
Little bit worried, but it would be hard to imagine
that someone was waiting around the corner, revving the motor
of their jeep, waiting to see them go by so
they could floor it and mow them down.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
Not really even an accident.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
I'm having a hard time making sense of what I
am learning about these two little girls.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
Now dead, and for what a creepy teens stalker? They're dead?
How are the parents making any sense? Look at her?
Look at her cute little makeup and her cute little eyelashes.
How hard did she? How long did it take her
to do that, just trying to look cute, trying to look.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
Like some magazine. Oh look at the other little girl. Oh,
I'm telling you, I am telling you. These facts are
like nothing else I've seen. And just think of it
and their own little neighborhood. Mom and dad see them
go out the door and think, oh, they're going for
a bike ride. Good, listen to this here.

Speaker 4 (02:09):
Mom just screamed, I heard it outside my window, and
she was just I she heard a loud scream and
I ran out my door and she's just crying.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
Maria and Isabella are best friends, attached at the hip.
Maria grows up in Cranford, New Jersey. She loves makeup.
Isabella loves to sing and act, a choir and drama
club member at Cranford High, her church, and the community theater.
As usual, the girls head to Maria's house after school
Monday and go for a bike ride at Golden Hour.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
Some of that that first sentance from our friends that
picks eleven the so called Golden Air straight out to
Melissa McCarty joining US investigative reporter, hosts of The Killer
Jean's podcast, and author of the Making of a Crime
reporter Melissa McCarty, thank you for being with us.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
Now, I got to take this from A to Z.
I want to.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
I mean, the story really stars months before when the
stalking occurred, and I would like to report that the
parents tried to handle it then and nothing was done,
and now their daughter is dead. Their daughter and a
little bestie are dead. Melissa, I don't want to start

(03:22):
with the three months before when the stalking allegedly started.
I want to start with the day of the murders.
And yes, I'm saying murders, Melissa, don't start with me
about a crash or an accident. Don't say accident. Don't
say it, Okay, do not When there's a vehicular homicide

(03:43):
and the person intends it, that is not an accident.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
So let's just go with crash for right now.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
Start at the beginning, when they walk out to go
get on their little e bikes.

Speaker 5 (03:57):
Yeah, this is definitely intentional. Now, so these two team
best friends, both seventeen years old. They're out riding these
electric bikes like any other day. Was in front of
the family, Maria's family block. This is really important to mention.
It was a quiet residential street. They felt safe the
speed was twenty five miles per hour. They were riding

(04:20):
along and that is when the driver came barreling down
at seventy miles per hour. Definitely intention stuff from there.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
Who witnessed the seventy seven zero MP and this tree
lined quiet neighborhood, guys, this is on Burnside Avenue, Cranford,
New Jersey, just outside Maria's grandma's home. Some of her

(04:49):
family actually witnessed the crash, not realizing Maria was involved.
Modown by a black jeep compass with tinted windows, and
there look at her riding their e bites. Okay, hold on,
Melissa mccartiy, I'll be right back with you. Straight out

(05:11):
to Lisa Herrick, board certified attorney specializing in juvenile crimes,
which is a whole another animal.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
I hated JUV.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
Everybody in our office had to do a long stint
in indictments and in a long stant in JUV, GV jail,
juvenile justice, where a lot of times you would see
the judge just sit around the circular table so nobody would.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
Be at the head and cause any hurt feelings, sit.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
Around a circular table and say to the defendant it
could be somebody charged with murder or ray Perchamolins station
or side of me on a child adope dealer, not
a dope addict adope dealer. You know how the drug
lords you love to use juveniles because when they get caught,

(06:03):
they can only get you know, eighteen months. When the dealer,
the real dealer or the drug lord gets.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
Caught, they get life.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
So they hand the drugs to the juvenile so they'll
get a lighter cent. So the judge will be sitting
on the table and look at the defendant, go, how
are you feeling this morning?

Speaker 1 (06:24):
My teeth?

Speaker 2 (06:25):
I just want to gnaw through the file because in
my mind I'm thinking about what happened to the crime victim. Anyway,
my point to you, Lisa Harritt, you're a veteran trial lawyer.
Seventy miles an hour, seven zero.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
That's no accident, absolutely, Nancy.

Speaker 6 (06:48):
And so what you're talking about is that even the
most serious offenses, when it involves a juvenile suspect or
a juvenile respondent, defendant, whatever the jurisdiction word for that
person is, even the most serious offenses do start in
the juvenile court. The court is designed to be able
to handle any.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
Type of offense.

Speaker 6 (07:10):
There are some exceptional circumstances sometimes where the court may
transfer that case to an adult court, depending on exactly
what it is that happens in whether or not the
judge thinks that's.

Speaker 7 (07:21):
The appropriate course of action.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
We need, say certain circumstances. In certain circumstances, a juvenile
case will be transferred or bound over to an adult
court felony superior court, and they are typically across the country.
Some variation the seven deadlies, including when the gmnile is
charged with murder, rape, aggravated assaults such as a shooting

(07:46):
or stabbing, armed robbery, child molestation, arson, and what would
the other one be, maybe aggravated rape or aggravated child sodomy.
All cases that deserve to be tried in adult court

(08:07):
bowed over from juvenile to adult court.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
But of course it's not automatic.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
There is a hearing, a bind over hearing to determine
will they really get an adult sentence?

Speaker 1 (08:19):
But I don't see any way out of that in
this case.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
If it had really been an accident, why would he
be flooring it seventy mph in a neighborhood. I could
just see it right now, right outside Grandma's house. Melissa McCarty,
sorry to interrupt, but I just wanted to clarify that
seventy mph is no accident.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
Go ahead.

Speaker 5 (08:40):
What happened then, right, So the impact was so intense, Nancy,
that one of the girls electric bikes wedged itself into
his suv, the driver's suv, and stuck there while he
tried to flee the scene. And this is the most
traumatic and chill part. Her family witnessed it. Maria had

(09:03):
a twin brother who also witnessed this, as you mentioned,
They rushed out to help and found it was their
daughter and her best friend.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
Melissa McCarty, You're absolutely right. Listen.

Speaker 8 (09:12):
At five point thirty Monday, Maria and Isabella ride their
bikes in front of Maria's home with a speed limit
of just twenty five. The girls feel comfortable riding in
the street with no warning. A black Jeep Compass barrels
down Burnside Avenue at nearly three times the speed limit
never breaks, running Maria and Isabella down, then speeding off.

(09:35):
Witnesses called nine to one one and rushed to the girls.
Maria's family inconsolable. One of the girls is declared dead
on the scene. While the other passes away. Minutes later
at a hospital, her.

Speaker 4 (09:48):
Brother saw her get hit and they like, they said
it was on purpose, and they just they were just
crying from.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
Where fans at picks eleven.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
Crime stories with Nancy Grace to John Pizarro joining US.
Former New Jersey This jurisdiction State Police investigator twenty five
years in LA multiple departments, including homicide, organized crime, Not

(10:26):
Easy in Jersey, Commander of Internet Crimes against Children Task
Force for the New Jersey State Police, currently CEO of
Raven Eliminating Child Exploitation and Trafficking.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
John, thank you for being with us. I want to
talk to.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
You about the fact that the e bike was hit
with such force that it wedged into the front grille
of the jeep. Tell me what you're seeing the jeep
right now there? It is that How would I like
to see that bearing down on you at seventy mph.

Speaker 9 (11:09):
I mean, I've seen a lot of different accidents and fatalities, Nancy,
but the premeditation there is what really drives me. I mean,
the anger to create that kind of damage at that
speed is utterly insane.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
You know, it would have to be an immense, immense
impact for the bike, not to just get not over,
but to hit so quickly and so forcefully that it
actually wedges into the grill of the jeep.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
Just think about it.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
To doctor Preyer, Benergy joining US Board certified forensic pathologist
and atomic pathologist and anchor Forensic Pathology, Doctor Preyer, thank
you for being with us. My point, the reason I'm
stuck on the bike being hit with such impact that
it basically he mailed it to the front grille. What

(12:03):
do you think that by impact the collision impact did
to the two little girls. One was thrown yards and
yards away through the air. But the impact, a lot
of people might think, is when she hits that that
is what kills her. Of course, she could hit her
hand on the curve, which would kill her, but it's

(12:23):
the impact that's what killed her.

Speaker 10 (12:27):
This hits very close to home as the mother of
a young girl who's out in the neighborhood. The impact
is a huge transfer of force energy and that's going
to basically crush them.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
It is I'm hoping instantaneous.

Speaker 10 (12:46):
Death with massive trauma such as head trauma or chest trauma.
I'm hoping that makes them suffer less. As a consolation
to the family. But this is beyond comprehension.

Speaker 11 (13:00):
Put her up.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
It was that supposed to make us feel better, doctor Preya,
that she died instantly. Now, well, I have to hand
it to you. It actually does make me feel a
little bit better because to this day, I'm talking years later,
I will wake up at night. It will hit me
in the middle of the day like a sack of bricks.
Did my fiance know what had happened to him when

(13:25):
he was shot five times?

Speaker 1 (13:26):
What did he feel? Did he know he was dying?
What were his thoughts? Did he try to speak? I
hate that.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
So the fact that they died may have died instantly,
it was very cold comfort, But comfort it is. But
isn't it true, Melissa McCarty that one of the girls
made it to the hospital.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
And then died. So one of them did not die instantly, right,
unfortunately one of them.

Speaker 5 (13:54):
We don't know which one at this point, but they
were airlifted to the hospital in efforts to try and
save her. But that she ended up dying from her
injuries at a local hospital.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
Oh you know, doctor Pria Banerjee joining us, You and
I have analyzed a lot of cases and recently we
were analyzing the case of a brilliant law professor, Professor
Dan Markel, whose raging mother in law was infuriated he

(14:24):
would not give away custody of the two little boys,
her grandchildren, so she ordered a hit on him, Donna Adelson,
And he was still fully conscious after the hitman shot
him multiple times and was trying to speak to a
neighbor in moving around. And that has haunted me and
haunted me and haunted me thinking was he trying to

(14:47):
send a message to his little boys?

Speaker 1 (14:48):
Was he trying to.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
Think, Oh God help me, I want to see them graduate?
I mean, what would have happened with this kind of impact.
Would the girls have known what happened to them? Because
we know one of them was alive when she got
to the hospital, right, you know, it's.

Speaker 10 (15:06):
All speculative, but I think there's always a moment for
my understanding that they you know, perception seeing the car
coming at you, at least the headlights. I think that's
probably the most horrific thing to think about, that it's
about to hit me with such speed and purpose, right
it's aimed at them, which is horrific to think about.

(15:29):
Once one girl is dead at the scene, I'm hoping
that is again instantaneous. Now I'm hoping the.

Speaker 11 (15:38):
Other child who survived.

Speaker 10 (15:41):
Temporarily was just, let's hope, disoriented, you know, surviving could
be at the scene, could be just a pulse, maybe
some gurgling or just garbled speech. But I'm hoping that
her senses were decreased and that you know that it
wasn't as a parent what had happened to her.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
You know, to doctor Janey Lacy, joining US, licensed psychotherapist,
CEO of Life Counseling Solutions, author of multiple books, and
you can find her podcast on YouTube, The Resilient Professional
Doctor Janey. You know, sometimes I post pictures of my twins. Recently,

(16:26):
I posted a picture of them at church. They were
leading in a procession and I don't know, I think
the choir was saying it was really pretty. So I
caught it on a video. People online, well, one person
just once said her address is too short.

Speaker 1 (16:41):
If you could see my daughter, she's gorgeous. She's got
legs up here, and I'm like, girls, show them off
while you can.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
But my point is, I'm looking at these photos of
the little girls, and in some of them, they've got
totally a faith full of makeup, and a lot of
people have com what's with that?

Speaker 1 (17:02):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
I love that these little girls are home in front
of their mirrors, playing in makeup and putting on nails.
I always wished I had been a girly girl instead
of climbing trees and building forts.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
And I look at her in a little tr Oh,
there you go. I love that shot.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
Right there, because you know, when you see her in
the next shot, she looks like a little schoolgirl in
a uniform. She just like playing in makeup, having a
good time. Looking at all the stars online trying to
put on makeup like they are.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
Look how cute.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
I mean, you know what, doctor Janey is the dichotomy
of looking at these two cute little girls.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
And imagining them plight. Look look at them playing in.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
Makeup one day and the next day they're mowed down
by a freak at seventy mphp because he's angry.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
One rejected him. That's what this is all about.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
According to police, that one of the girls didn't want
to go out with him, didn't want anything to do
with him, and he was stupid enough to talk.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
About it online.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
And yes, I have the video which I'm going to
play for you, but right now, the dichotomy of looking
at them just so scrubbed in sunshine, playing in their makeup,
and then imagining them dead on the street exsanguminating, bleeding
out dead Fancy.

Speaker 7 (18:33):
This case just represents a catastrophic system failure, in my opinion,
where repeated warning signs were ignored and they resulted into
what I would say preventable deaths. You know, as someone
who lost my own sister to domestic violence, I understand
how devastating it is when people that are meant to

(18:54):
protect us fail to act. So my heart goes as
shattered for these families because this is exactly the nightmare
scenario we work so hard to prevent. And what haunts me, Nancy,
is that Maria did everything right. She reported him, she
told adult, her family, seek help, and the system failed her.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
So this is just a tragedy. It's a preventable murder,
but help has to.

Speaker 7 (19:18):
Be there when it's reached for So Maria reached and
no one grabbed her hand, and to me, that was
just unconsciable, Nancy. So I think what we're seeing here
with this perpetrator is we're seeing a textbook escalation pattern
of a stalker who became increasingly dangerous when his target,

(19:38):
Maria rejected him.

Speaker 3 (19:39):
Isabella Salas and Maria Niotis, We're enjoying what seemed like
an ordinary day together, blissfully unaware that a figure from
their past may have been shadowing their every move.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
I imagine that on two little teen girls riding their
e bikes along their neighborhoods, straight outside Grandma's house. So
that jeep is recovered, many facts become elucidated.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
Listen.

Speaker 3 (20:07):
Police find the black twenty twenty one Jeep Compass just
blocks away on Lincoln Avenue, with a bike still lodged
in the front bumper.

Speaker 12 (20:16):
Families release a statement claiming their daughter's deaths were not
an accidental hit and run. They say the driver, a
coward of a man, has been planning an attack on
Maria for months. Friends and family, save Maria's classmate at
Cranford High who wants pursued Maria romantically, has been harassing, stalking,
and threatening Maria for at least three months.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
What in the hey, I got to tell you something?

Speaker 13 (20:39):
You know?

Speaker 2 (20:39):
Lisa Herrick joining us saw a veteran try a lawyer
partner at Varghee Somerset, Lisa, have you ever had to
deal with a stalking case that's just a yes name.

Speaker 6 (20:50):
Not one like this, Yeah, not one like this.

Speaker 2 (20:53):
Okay, let me tell you something you don't want to
Because when I'd rather try a serial killer, which I have,
rather than stick my hand into a stalking or a
divorce related crime, those people are they will shoot the prosecutor,

(21:14):
no question, or the divorce lawyer. The divorce lawyer because
the emotions are so high. And I've had stalkers come
into court and look at me like I'm pure evil,
and the victim would be terrified to see the stalker
in court.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
It was palpable. It's like hanging in the air.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
Like a Harry Potter horcrux. You can just feel feel it.
And in this case, did you hear this, Melissa McCartney,
did they just say? Friends and family stated a classmate
at Cranford High pursued Maria romantically and had been harassing, stalking,
and threatening her for at least three months.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
Three months has been going.

Speaker 5 (22:01):
On at least stalking, not only physically parking outside of
her home, according to many of her friends' neighbors and
also family members, but online and at school as.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
Well online at school, parking in her neighborhood staring at
her listen.

Speaker 8 (22:21):
A friend of Maria's shows the media text he received
from the alleged driver after he asked Marta Lauro to
stop bothering Maria. Quote, I'm not leaving her alone until
she apologizes to me unquote. The driver then threatens to
create and distribute AI generated nude photos of Maria. He
sends a photo of another nude girl, writing quote, I

(22:44):
did it to one girl, I'll do it to another unquote.
The conversation ended with the teen writing keep running your
mouth and I'll create your girl's nudes right now he's
been parked.

Speaker 13 (22:55):
Up front of her house's line online and schollowing.

Speaker 1 (22:59):
Yeah, it was.

Speaker 13 (23:00):
The school was notified, The police were notified, like for three.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
Months now, and nothing happened. No, he was never stopped. No.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
Dave Matt with US Crime Stories investigative report. The school
knew about this and did nothing, And I want to
confirm that they all need to be fired.

Speaker 14 (23:20):
Nancy. I think the school did take action.

Speaker 11 (23:24):
We're dealing with a because of.

Speaker 14 (23:26):
The age of everybody involved, you know, they're pretty cagy
about releasing names and things like that. But he was
suspended from school based on an accusation from Maria's family
that he sent child pornography to them, and that let.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
Dave, I'm so glad you told me that. I'm so
glad you told me that. I've been so focused on
the actual criminal case. I'm so relieved that he was suspended.
You know what that means, Dave, Matt the family, his
family knew that something was going on, something wrong. So

(24:06):
I guess when the victims' families are saying nothing was done,
that must mean criminally criminally stucking because he was suspended.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
Did he get back in Dave mac.

Speaker 14 (24:18):
Well, okay, the charges that were coming about apparently were
dropped and he was allowed back in. But he still
talked about wanting revenge for what had happened to him.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
Oh for the little suspension. Okay, you're absolutely right. Let's
play that right now. Let's see him and all his
splendor and glory.

Speaker 11 (24:40):
I think, may I think we're going to center a PISA. Sure, so.

Speaker 13 (24:47):
You'll know I have a vengeancey against the stall Ford
accusing me of saying I'm going to call a PISA
to her house. Yes, So.

Speaker 11 (25:02):
Fula or my dad wants to call you fluva. Don't
fool me, stupid.

Speaker 13 (25:09):
You should not have accused me of sending form and
you should not have dragged me into creating a police.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
Report that from at Vinny about one point eighteen on YouTube,
and that would obviously be the suspect who is innocent tonight.

Speaker 1 (25:27):
By the way, we're all innocent.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
We have the presumption of innocence unless and until the
state pierces that presumption with evidence that proves the defendant
guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. I want to analyze what
I just heard, Melissa McCarney. He says, I think Marie

(25:50):
is hungry, and he's talking about the murder victim, this
little teen girl that has rejected his advances.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
I think we're going to send her a pizza.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
So y'all know quote, I have a vengeance against this
girl for accusing me of sending porn.

Speaker 1 (26:09):
I guess that's the alleged.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
AI generated nude photos of little girls. You stick a
need body on the head of a little girl, and
suddenly you've got a nude of her. He goes on
to say, you should not a key have accused me
of sending porn and you should not have dragged me
into creating a police report. This is a little girl

(26:32):
he's talking about. Do I have that right, Melissa McCarty
joining us.

Speaker 10 (26:38):
You do?

Speaker 5 (26:39):
And it just as a sample of how vindictive and
how fixated he has been on Maria and having some
kind of retribution for what he feels he was wrong.
He was live streaming this to his fans on some
gaming website of YouTube and TikTok and he was really
giving insight into his psyche months before the incident.

Speaker 1 (27:02):
But it doesn't end there, Melissa McCarty, listen.

Speaker 15 (27:04):
Can I get two large pepperoni pieces? That's it, no dregs,
He'll be cast.

Speaker 14 (27:16):
In the door.

Speaker 16 (27:20):
Okay, thank you very much. Hey, then I have the
vpan on so I can't get tracked.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
Do you hear them laughing?

Speaker 2 (27:47):
That is from at Vinnie bat to b A T
T one eighteen on YouTube. Do you hear them laughing
about I think Marie is hungry and ordering a pizza
that she would have to pay for when it got
there my daughter or said, well, my daughter would not
be able to find thirty dollars to save her nick
if she had to on a delivery that would not happen,

(28:11):
and then she'd be all upset, like, what am I
going to do?

Speaker 1 (28:14):
I should text me and call me mom.

Speaker 2 (28:16):
There's a guy that wants thirty dollars. What am I
supposed to do? I don't have thirty dollars? So that's
what he's laughing about. Oh and there's more. Listen, Should
I do it? Here's the thing though?

Speaker 13 (28:27):
I did that the last time, but the mother saw
me pull up in the car and I got tracked,
and the police, you know, did what they did.

Speaker 11 (28:37):
Should I do?

Speaker 2 (28:37):
I don't think I should do it again? From at
venniebat One eighteen YouTube. Did you hear that? Because he
is cackling and laughing John Pizarro, former New Jersey State
Police this jurisdiction. He's laughing about having a VPN virtual

(28:59):
private network where he can't be traced, according to him,
and ordering the pizza and stalking her own line through
a VPN. The little friend says, you should go to
the house and see it pull up the pizza. That
Laura says, should I? Here's the thing though, I did
that last time, but the mother saw me and I
got trot and the police, you know, did what they did.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
So he is.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
Overtly trying to avoid detection. This guy, this guy knows
what he's doing.

Speaker 17 (29:29):
John, he should be tried as an adult. I mean,
obviously he knows. Look, there's not a lot of people
that know a lot about VPNs, but he's doing everything
he can do to conceal his identity while terrorizing these girls. Ultimately,
that's what he's doing.

Speaker 11 (29:46):
Should I do it?

Speaker 13 (29:46):
Here's the thing though, I did that the last time,
but the mother saw me pull up in the car
and I got tracked and the police, you know, did
what they did.

Speaker 11 (29:55):
Should I do I don't think I should do it.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
Crime Stores with Nancy Grace.

Speaker 3 (30:09):
Maria had been haunted by a boy from a neighboring
town who relentlessly stalked her and made unwanted advances for months.
His obsessive behavior forced Maria to file a restraining order
against him.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
How does this guy have thirty nine excuse me now?
Forty thousand followers on TikTok listen.

Speaker 3 (30:28):
Just hours after allegedly mowing down Maria and Isabella, battle
Loo goes live on YouTube for a round of video
games with a friend. Battle Loo has nearly forty thousand
followers on TikTok and several hundred tune into his gaming streams.
Over the last six months, battle Loo frequently discussed a
situation at school with Maria. In his stream, battle Loo

(30:49):
is inundated with messages condemning his actions and taunts his
audience that every comment just makes him more money. Battle
Loo eventually turns commenting off and addresses the.

Speaker 1 (30:59):
Crash doctor Jane Lacy, you're the psychotherapist. I'm just a
trial lawyer. Could you explain what is an in sell?

Speaker 2 (31:08):
Involuntary celibate that's usually for grown men, but this forty
thousand followers watching him play play.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
Live stream video games.

Speaker 2 (31:21):
They watch him play as he trashes the victim and
talks about what he's going to de fort revenge because
she rejected him.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
What is an in sell? What is a baby in sell?

Speaker 7 (31:33):
Well, when I'm looking at what we just heard, that
they have these ability to get these audiences, especially when
they become skilled at certain video games. So with the generations,
this is a common trend. I would say that a
lot of the gamers can make money off of people

(31:56):
watching them taking tips from them. But there's a lot
of commentary that particularly happens when when they're gaming, and
in these commentary we're also seeing that we're also getting
some evidence because you know, when I think about this
nancy that stalkers, they often operate with just this dangerous
solution as he was, you know, he's talking about the
situation at school to his followers. But they also believe

(32:19):
they have a right to their victims attention, hence sending
the pizza and the attention of time and their affection,
and when that's denied and they don't accept that, they
escalate to when we're looking at all these red flags
that we just heard, the surveillance, the digital harassment, of
the physical proximity threat, the mom seeing him, and the
persistence despite the rejection the restraining order which didn't didn't

(32:41):
stop him. But you know, the comment that would make
their nancy is the most dangerous time for stalking victim
is when they set a boundary like a restraining order.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
And doctor Jenny, I've got a question. Doesn't anybody have Bark?
And I am not I'm not an endorser. I'm saying
this because I have BARK. I don't understan and my
parents don't have Bark. It's an app and it pops
up whenever you one of your children, it's on their phone.
When there is violence, when violence pops up, self harm,

(33:13):
sexual deviancy, and okay, one time it popped up self
harm on my son.

Speaker 1 (33:20):
I'm like what.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
And it shows you the what they consider to be
self harm. It was John David plays on varsity soccer
and he had he dived through the net to stop
a goal and he stopped it, but he got a
big bruise on his arm. He's so proud, look what
I did. And he posted it to somebody. You know,
I saved the goal and that's what they picked. That's

(33:45):
how sensitive bark like a dog, that's what it is.
And then the other day I never have seen this
pop up. It says sexual something. I'm like it finally happened.
He found how about sex? And look guess what it was?
The Nancy Gray show on a ddy case. So okay,

(34:08):
that's the kind like, okay, I guess he's got to
unfollow his mother.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
But that said, I wonder where were the parents?

Speaker 2 (34:17):
Did they not understand what was going on? They didn't,
I mean, Melissa McCartney, how could the parents? I know
he was suspended and yet he still had his jeep
that he was using to stalk her and still doing this,
laughing about it, ordering pizzas.

Speaker 1 (34:31):
And so forth online to her home that she would
have to pay for. But where were they in this mix?

Speaker 11 (34:38):
So this is interesting.

Speaker 5 (34:40):
He talks about that on one of his live streams
on YouTube. He talks about what happened to him at
school with the police report and how it's affecting him
at home and causing him mental anguish. He addresses that,
and what I think is very interesting.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
Did you just say he's having meant to anguish?

Speaker 5 (35:02):
He talks about how it's affecting his mental state, exactly right,
But he talks about this and that he's having trouble
at home because of all of this.

Speaker 1 (35:11):
So he's you.

Speaker 5 (35:12):
Know, putting the evidence out there, and he's also admitting
to this harassment and these things that are getting him
in trouble on the live stream.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
Well, he should have trouble at home, and actually at
least that means his parents were trying to do something.

Speaker 1 (35:26):
Listen to this.

Speaker 13 (35:26):
In a neighboring town, Unfortunately, two girls were killed in
a hit and run crash. Nah, there has been a
lot of misinformation going on over the internet, but I

(35:48):
will say this, I wish my sincereus condolences to those
two girls.

Speaker 11 (35:57):
Lost in that tragic accident.

Speaker 2 (36:01):
Okay, the goal of that from at Vinnie bat One
eighteen on YouTube, that is Vincent Battloro talking about the
misinformation on the internet about as I call them, the

(36:21):
two murders and giving sincere's condolence is like spit that
out of my mouth. It tastes like poison. And there's more.
The goal of going on and saying that.

Speaker 13 (36:37):
Listen, it is an absolute unfortunate situation and there's more
to the story that you're not getting. But when the
time comes, I will explain it in greater detail. I'm
not authorized to talk about the old thing. I'm not
going to give you any more information.

Speaker 1 (36:55):
At Vinnie baut One eighteen YouTube making thrusts.

Speaker 11 (37:00):
That's my family will not be tolerated.

Speaker 13 (37:04):
My cousin has received hateful messages over social media about
this whole spiel, and he's had to unfollow me on
everything because of this whole drama.

Speaker 11 (37:16):
Why are you guys getting him involved? It's one thing. Okay,
if you hate me, you hate me.

Speaker 13 (37:23):
If you don't, you don't, you're opening up Pandora's Box,
getting family involved, and that just does not sit right
with me.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
Okay, First of all, that's from venning Back one eighteen YouTube.

Speaker 1 (37:38):
Is he actually threatening people?

Speaker 2 (37:41):
Is he saying, you talk about my family and you're
opening Pandora's Box and that just does not sit right
with me?

Speaker 13 (37:50):
What?

Speaker 2 (37:52):
Oh, I'm sure Lisa Harritt is just withering right now
at the thought of having a client that takes to
the Internet. But there's more, Lisa, buckle your seat belt, listen,
and I want to.

Speaker 13 (38:04):
Address something else, okay, because this is a very serious
incident that happens, and I really don't even know if
I should be streaming this right now. But I have
built a great following on ted Talk with thirty nine
thousand followers that I have grown since twenty twenty, and

(38:28):
I want to thank each.

Speaker 11 (38:29):
And every single one of you. I love you all
to absolute death.

Speaker 1 (38:33):
That's from at Vinnybatt one eighteen YouTube.

Speaker 2 (38:36):
He is worried. Lisa Harriet, You're the veteran trial lawyer.
I'm so happy right now, He's worried about his followers
on YouTube, his forty thousand followers.

Speaker 1 (38:52):
He's threatening people that have spoken out against him. And
his family, and.

Speaker 2 (38:58):
I'd like to add his dad and uncle are in
law enforcement. That's his response. He's lashing out and worried
about his YouTube followers, while the girls' families are imagining
their daughters getting inbalmed.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
You know what getting in balm means.

Speaker 2 (39:17):
They take all the fluids out of your body, all
the organs out of their body, and they shoot you
full of chemicals, chemicals, and then they paint your face
to make you look natural, not dead, and put you
in a box before you go under the ground forever.
And he is worried about his followers and making threats

(39:40):
online technical legal term.

Speaker 1 (39:43):
You can go straight to H double L on a broomstick.
And I don't mean writing it.

Speaker 10 (39:50):
I mean.

Speaker 1 (39:53):
You go ahead. I want to hear your response. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (39:56):
As a defense attorney, you never want a client to
to the internet and share how they feel about an
incident they're accused of.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
This is not a good look.

Speaker 6 (40:05):
It's going to be a lot to overcome for his
attorneys when he does get defense attorneys. They certainly, as
he predicted, they would have advised him not to do that.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
Take a listen to this.

Speaker 13 (40:15):
I took a hiatus from streaming and this has to
do with my personal life, and this involves school. I
got a bunch of allegations being handed to me of
crazy stuff I will deny for fifty years to the
end of my life. Ridiculous allegations that this girl is

(40:35):
making against me and over because I got into her
relationship business. And now the school and now I'm going.

Speaker 11 (40:42):
To tell you all this.

Speaker 13 (40:43):
Cops got involved, and the school got involved in this,
and somehow they're.

Speaker 11 (40:47):
Believing this crap.

Speaker 13 (40:49):
So they suspended me basically indefinitely until they figured it,
which makes again makes no sense because they should have
waited until they were if they're really believing this is
true criminal charges, by which there haven't been because this
is all bogus.

Speaker 11 (41:04):
So that's happened. I'm waiting to see.

Speaker 13 (41:07):
You know, when I get this appointment for my They
want to test me for a SAVORY assessment and sexual
which I don't even understand it.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
He's talking about a SAVORY test, a structured assessment of
violence risk in youth. Structured assessment of violent risk in youth.
SAVORY is the acronym. Well, if you don't understand it,
what it is is an assessment of your degree, your
level of violence and if you have sexual deviancy, because

(41:39):
you won't leave this girl alone, according to her family,
and now she's dead.

Speaker 1 (41:45):
Now she's dead. Listen.

Speaker 13 (41:48):
We've tried to appeal the decision, and apparently that decision
can't be which may which doesn't make sense because oh,
we can appeal the school expulsion, but we can't appeal
a savory assessment that I don't find to be making
any sense.

Speaker 11 (42:03):
Oh, we hold the car. No, you don't.

Speaker 13 (42:06):
You can authorize a decision making on whether I do
this year or not, so.

Speaker 11 (42:11):
They will not.

Speaker 13 (42:12):
Although my expulsion has been rescinded, I'm still not basically
welcome back until I do it. That is why I
haven't been streaming. It's taken a deep effect on my
mental health. But because of the support of my mom
and dad, who are both defending these bogus allegations, which
I think is sick twisted out at our landish, they're

(42:34):
defending me.

Speaker 11 (42:34):
They wanted to search my phone. The school wanted to
search my.

Speaker 13 (42:37):
Phone, but my dad told him that my dad refused
get a warrant and then we could talk from there.

Speaker 2 (42:43):
At vinnybat One eighteen YouTube, the Union County prosecutors keep
the driver's identity.

Speaker 3 (42:48):
Private traffic summons records reveal his name, Vincent P. Bataloro,
his father, an officer with Chatham Peede, and his uncle,
chief of Westfield PD. The team was also under investigation
for harassment and stalking his classmate Maria and Ciotis.

Speaker 12 (43:03):
Battlauo's uncle, Christopher Battaluo, chief of police in neighboring Westfield,
confirming with the suspect is related but not a member
of his immediate family. Chief battle Laua writes that he
in no way condone, defend, or excuse his nephew's actions.
Battlauo says he was required to remain silent but unequivocally

(43:23):
condemns the teen's actions and demands. He faced consequences determined
by a court of law. Chief Battlelauo expresses his condolences
to Maria and Isabella's families, saying his family is grieving
alongside their neighbors, and that.

Speaker 2 (43:37):
Is why the parents said, now you can't look at
his phone without a search warrant because they know the system,
the dad and the uncle, heavy law enforcement. Where does
it stand right now? Straight out to Melissa McCarthy.

Speaker 5 (43:51):
Right now, he is facing two counts of first degree murder.
Right now, it could be he's charged as a minor,
but that could change. We have to wait and see
what the DA decides.

Speaker 2 (44:02):
So right now he's still in juvecourt looking at a
mix of about five years behind bars.

Speaker 1 (44:08):
That's where it stands.

Speaker 2 (44:11):
This as the girls' family, Maria and Isabella's family en
dear their funerals, We wait as justice unfolds. If you
know or think you know anything about this case, whether
you think it's inconsequential or not, please dial Cranford PD.

(44:34):
Nine zero eight seven zero nine seventy two hundred repeat
nine zero eight seven zero nine seventy two hundred.

Speaker 1 (44:44):
Nancy Gray signing up. Good night friend,
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