February 14, 2025 • 41 mins
Sean “Diddy” Combs will spend a lonely Valentine’s Day in the MDC after filing his second defamation suit against NBC, receiving two new lawsuits alleging sexual assault, and prematurely accepting support from Kanye West, whose days-long meltdown on X has likely ended his career.
Instead of breakfast in bed, Combs will eat cereal in the mess hall at 6 a.m., returning five hours later for a chicken patty sandwich or chickpea burger. Instead of champagne and caviar, he will have chili with whole wheat bread.
Combs filed a $100 million lawsuit against NBC Universal, Peacock TV, and the production company Ample, alleging that their documentary, The Making of a Bad Boy, “assumes Combs’ guilt” and falsely labels him as “the embodiment of Lucifer.” Combs specifically objects to Al B. Sure’s insinuations that he was involved in the deaths of Kim Porter, Notorious B.I.G., Andre Harrell, and Heavy D, as well as Rodney Jones’ accusations that he sexually assaulted minors. His attorneys argue that the defamatory claims not only damaged his reputation but also jeopardized his right to a fair trial scheduled for three months from now.
Kanye West showed his support for Combs by posting “FREE PUFF” on both his Instagram and X, formerly known as Twitter. West then posted a series of messages demanding Combs’ release, including a plea to the President, stating, “PLEASE FREE MY BROTHER PUFF.”
Joining Nancy Grace today:
- Joshua Ritter - Criminal Defense Attorney, Former Prosecutor, Host of Courtroom Confidential on YouTube, joshuaritter.com; Xr, Instagram & TikTok: @joshuaritteresq, YouTube: CRConfidential
- Dr. Bethany Marshall - Psychoanalyst, Author: "Deal Breaker," featured in hit show: "Paris in Love" on Peacock ; Instagram & TikTok: drbethanymarshall, Twitter: @DrBethanyLive
- Chris McDonough - Director At the Cold Case Foundation, Former Homicide Detective, Worked over 300 Homicides in 25 year career, Trained the first Native American Homicide Task Force; & Host of YouTube channel, "The Interview Room,"
- Lynn Shaw - Founder and Executive Director of Lynn's Warriors, Host - Lynn's Warriors on YouTube, lynnswarrior.org, X: @lynns_warriors Youtube: @LynnsWarriors
- Germania Rodriguez - Chief US rReporter at dailymail.com
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, Ditty and Kanye to share
a sad little Chicken patty for Valentine's dinner. This as
dozens of Ditty's alleged rape victims up in arms after
(00:23):
rapper Kanye West demands President Trump.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Free Puff then.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Bumbles through a Super Bowl ad directing viewers to his website,
and when you get there, it offers one item for sale,
a swastika T shirt. Hey with friends like this, Kanye,
who needs enemies?
Speaker 2 (00:47):
I'm Nancy Grace, this is Crime Stories. Thank you for
being with us.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Free Puff. Controversial rapper Kanye West calls for Ditty's freedom
in a rambling ti rate of tweets defending the disgraced
musician charged with sex.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Oh yes he did.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
As if things could not get worse for Sean Combs
and according to prosecutors, he deserves all the misery.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Being heaped upon him. Coming to his aid.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Flying to his rescue is his friend Kanye West, who
manages to totally screw things up for him.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Listen.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
Kanye West shows his support for fellow rappers Sean Diddy
Combs with a simple post free Puff on both his
Instagram and x formerly Twitter account. West then begins a
flurry of tweets demanding Cone's release, even begging the President
to please free my brother Puff.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Now that's one thing, but then he goes on to bumble.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Through an eight million dollar Super Bowl ad, and it would.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Be wrong of me not to share that with you.
Speaker 5 (01:53):
Watch I spent like all the money for a commercial.
Speaker 6 (02:01):
On these new chiefs. Once again, I had to shoot
it on the iPhone. Go to easy dot com.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
That's from yez l LC okay number one, Why did
Kim Kardashian ever marry him? But that said, when you
go to easy dot com, the only thing there is
a swastika T shirt. The only thing at easy dot
(02:31):
com is a T shirt with a swastika on it.
Let's go back to defending Sean Comb's a k A
Diddy a k A Puff straight out to doctor Bethany
Marshall joining us renown Psycho Alis out of the Beverly
Hills area. She is seen now on Peacock and author
(02:57):
of deal Breaker. Doctor Bethany with friends.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Like this, who needs enemies? This is like digging the
grave for Seawan Combs.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
To have Kanye come out and make a complete horses
ass of himself defending Diddy.
Speaker 7 (03:16):
Nancy, this is the kind of friend you do not want. Okay,
So this picture of him in the dentist's chair getting
his teeth done, it's so self aggrandizing because he feels
he's handsome while he has saliva dripping down his teeth.
That's just he doesn't understand how he comes to bast all.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Why hold that mental image when we can just punch
it again.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
Let's watch I spent like all the money for a commercial.
Speaker 6 (03:48):
On these new teeth once again. I had to shoot
it on the iPhone. Go to easy dot Com.
Speaker 7 (03:58):
Okay, Nancy, the iPhones are amazing, LC.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Let me give it all the credit it is to
do what Bethany.
Speaker 7 (04:04):
Okay, When he says I had to shoot it on
the iPhone, my first thought was, yeah, because your marketing
team doesn't want you to do it. They should have
taken your phone away too.
Speaker 6 (04:13):
You know.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Let's get real.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Just one moment to Lynn Shaw joining me, founder and
direct d of Lynn's Warriors, a nonprofit completely dedicated to
eradicating sex trafficking.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
And as much as I like watching.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Kanye's commercial over and over, as doctor Bethany said, seeing
the drill strip out of his mouth as he goes
on to defend Seawan Comb's I have handled so many
rape cases and so many sex trafficking cases.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
I'm thinking specifically.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Of a fourteen year old girl that was sex trafficked
and catch this Lynn. The night before her testimony, she disappeared.
I was out starting at three am till the time
I walked into court finding her because she was so
afraid to testify after being passed off to man after
(05:07):
man after man after man, having up to twenty clients
in one day, this fourteen year old girl. It's really
hard to convey what rape victims go through. And I'm
talking about Sean Combs. It's not having his traditional champagne
(05:29):
Valentine's Day lunch or dinner.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
He's having a chicken patty.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
We've already checked that out with MDC Metropolitan Detention Center.
What is Kanye going to go visit his friend and
share that lonely little chicken patty.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
That said Linshaw.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
The reality of these alleged rape victims up in arms,
after all they've been through, with Kanye West pulling yet
another stunt at their expense, LND.
Speaker 8 (05:58):
We have to keep the focus on victims. Survivors, alleged
or not. We have to listen to them because it
is their testimony. It is them being able to go
to a court, it is them being able to stand
up to all of this that will hold these punks responsible.
(06:19):
And that's the bottom line here, that's what we're looking for.
And again, how is somebody going to recall something from
ten to twenty thirty years ago? Are they strong enough
all of this kind of fluff stuff in the media
and the ye by the way, he looked like he
was in a straight jacket to me in that video
and this one eating something he was.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
I mean, that's what it looked like to me. But
who am I to judge, you know?
Speaker 8 (06:42):
And dirty Diddy with a chicken patty. I only wish
some of my girls and women. There's been a few
boys and men too, who have gotten away, gotten out
of this sex trafficking, had a chicken patty to eat.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
I don't care about their food.
Speaker 8 (06:55):
I want us to put focus on strengthening, empowering, engaging
these survivors or alleged survivors so this will stick in court.
That is what we need to focus on here.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
You know, I'm just thinking Harmonia Rodriguez joining US. She
is chief US reporter at dailymail dot com. Harmonia, it's
all fun and games to look at Kanye's Yee's super
Bowl ad and see the teeth and hear the bumbling
(07:30):
and the drooling. But listen to this Harmonia. When you
go to yezy dot com, this is what you find.
Speaker 9 (07:38):
Within an hour of West's Super Bowl ad airing on TV,
the only item available in his shop is a twenty
dollars short sleeve white T shirt with a swastika on it.
The shirt is named HHO one. Many believe the letters
stand for Hyle Hitler. Critics and fans alike are absolutely horrified. Shopify,
(07:59):
The site's host suspends Yeezy's account within twenty four hours.
The site now reading this shop is not available.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
I mean there comes is sitting at MDC Metropolitan Detention
Center and he gets the support from Kanye West, who
stirs up such controversy with the alleged rape victims. I mean,
(08:27):
think about it, Harmonia. I've dealt with so many rape
victims that their whole lives are in their mind ruined,
and therefore they are ruined.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
They are ruined by a rape.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
That feeling of helplessness, remembering it over and over again.
And Harmonia, we just heard Linshaw saying, can they remember
something that happened twenty years ago? I remember, I remember
exactly the moment I found out my fiance had been murdered.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
I remember the moment.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
I saw his bloody shirt on the state's council table
at the murder trial.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
I remember it like it was yesterday.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
That kind of trauma doesn't go away ever, and it
can totally destroy your life.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
And here is.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
This poc technical legal term, Kanye West going on air
on crazy rants, not only defending Combes but attacking Cassie Ventura.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Wait till I get to that. Tell me what's happening, Harmonia.
Speaker 10 (09:46):
As you said, it's absolutely despicable. Kanye West has been
in a mission to kind of prove to the world
that he can do whatever he wants.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Because he's still a billionaire.
Speaker 10 (09:54):
And he is, and I think that's what he was
trying to prove on that Super Bowl ad. So it's
worth noting that Shopify has now removed the swastika shirt.
But as you said, Nancy, he's not even just saying, oh,
you know, I believe in my friend Pub's innocence.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
He's not even saying that.
Speaker 10 (10:11):
He's kind of saying, who among us hasn't assaulted a woman?
He admitted on his ex account he said I have
slapped a woman before. He said sometimes women deserve to
be slabbed, and he's kind of picturing it. He's connecting
this to his anti Semitism and his praise of Hitler.
He's saying this is all part of a conspiracy by
(10:34):
the Jews go after prominent men like himself and Diddy.
So this is I mean, some people might say Kanye
West is going through another bipolar episode, but it doesn't
even seem that way to me. It seems calculated. He
shared images of Ditty assaulting Cassie and mocked it. He
started selling a version of the jacket that Cassie was
(10:57):
wearing in that horrific video that we have ball scene Nancy.
So it's truly despicable and I think it will continue.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Crime stores with Nancy Grace.
Speaker 11 (11:16):
Among the Shawn John and Free Puff merchandise available for purchase.
Kanye West also offers a newly renamed version of his
twenty fifteen So Help Me God hoodie. In a tweet,
West points out it's the same hoodie that Cassie Ventura
is wearing in the damning video of Seawan Combe's attacking
her at the Intercontinental Hotel in twenty sixteen, West posts
(11:38):
side by side photos of the hoodie and a still
from the video, with the caption the love hoodie available now.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
You know the love hoodie available now?
Speaker 1 (11:53):
And we know one of shawn comes many many aliases
is law of aka brother Love aka Sean Combs aka
Ditty aka Puff aka Puffy aka puff Daddy. And it
goes on and on and on and on the love hoodie.
(12:14):
Let me see that one more time, the love hoodie.
He's selling that to mocking the attack on Cassie Ventura.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Now wait a minute. As reported by Hermania Rodriguez, listen
to this.
Speaker 9 (12:29):
West continues to tweet steals of the photo with different captions, first, writing,
when a man loves a woman, he may express it
in rage. I empathize with both sides. West follows up,
you have to truly be in love to get to
the point of risking everything. Finally, West seems to mock
the attack. Hey question, if someone wants to beat up
(12:50):
their girl in public, would that be considered domestic violence
or Is that outdoor violence or is it just public indecency.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
I'm just asking for a friend.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Rapper and Kim k X drops controversial Diddy collab pleading
with President Trump to free his brother Pump.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Oh yes, that's right now dragged into Shawn Combs aka
Ditties criminal vortex. You've got President Trump, you've got Macy's Department.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Store, and you've got a renowned.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Pastor TD TD Jakes, all somehow mixed up with Shawn
COM's multi count federal sex trafficking indictment. I'll get to that,
but let's get to what's really important here. The sad
little Chicken Patty listen.
Speaker 9 (13:41):
Shawn Combs will spend his Valentine's Day with only the
guards and other inmates at the MDC. Instead of breakfast
in bed, he'll have cereal in the mess hall at
six am, and five hours later return for a chicken
patty sandwich or chickpea burger Instead of champagne and cavy are.
The Mogul will dine on chili with whole wheat bread.
(14:01):
Will calms repeat his Christmas meltdown when he learns that
there aren't any chocolate covered strawberries on the menu.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Two.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Chris mcdunna joining me, veteran homicide detective, founder of the
Cold Case Foundation, and star of the Interview Room program
on YouTube.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Chris, thank you for being with us. Do you care
if he.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Has a sad little chicken patty for Valentine's Day? Because
I don't that's going to be his dinner. This is
the guy that would demand people bring him cheesecake at
three am.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Why does anybody care?
Speaker 1 (14:38):
And I just wonder, is Kanye going to go for
a little visit and share that candlelight dinner in the
mess hall?
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 12 (14:45):
And come four pm when every inmate in that facility
has Chilian beans, It's going to be quite an explosion
later on. This guy is nothing but a dirt bag.
I mean, let's let's just put it where it is.
I mean, he is so offensive on so many levels,
and his friends now out into the public trying to
(15:08):
shock the public with his anti Semitism.
Speaker 6 (15:12):
This is just discussing on so many levels.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
You know, I'm just wondering too.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Joshua Ritter joining US, veteran criminal defense attorney out of
the LA jurisdiction, former prosecutor and host of Courtroom Confidential
on YouTube. Not bad, by the way, Josh Ritter, not
bad at all. Of course, everything you said is a BS,
but it is entertaining. So, Josh Ritter, you're the veteran
(15:37):
defense attorney who, to his credit, seems to win all
of his cases. Josh Ritter, how are you going to
strike a jury for Sean Combs when you've got Kanye
hanging around his neck like an albatross and all of
his BS.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
On the air.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
So here he is demanding very publicly that President Trump
three puff okay, going to bat for Seawn Combs and
comes It's like, hey man, I'm good, lay off. So
he posts that to Donald Trump, and you know how
Trump is. You know, he gets this late night Twitter
(16:15):
going on, so who knows what's gonna.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Happen with that.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
He's dragging in Macy's department store, which I will get
to later. He's dragging in a renowned man of god, T. D.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Jakes and his Maelstrom.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
But how are you going to strike a jury, Josh River,
when you've got Kanye going.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
To bat for Combs. So you're gonna have to Voo
Dyer to speak the truth in French.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
The jurors as to what do they know about the
Shawn Combs allegations, and what do they know about Kanye.
Speaker 13 (16:53):
It's gonna be incredibly difficult. That's It's gonna be an
absolute uphill battle. And part of the problem is Kanye
lost it. Obviously. I don't know what he's going through.
I don't know what kind of episode he's having.
Speaker 6 (17:05):
But all of this.
Speaker 13 (17:05):
Anti semitic, anti victim, pro domestic violence, all of that
is Kanye, but Puff is not Kanye. And that's the
big problem. Sean Combs is going to go on trial,
and you're right, he's going to have to stand in
front of an array of jurors and talk to them.
And if all of this noise and all of this
(17:26):
nonsense and all of this Kanye problems starts to leak over,
they're going to have a.
Speaker 6 (17:32):
Real time finding a fair jury.
Speaker 13 (17:35):
And I think that's why you're seeing his team start
to fight back on some of this, start to file
some of these lawsuits about defamation because they realize the
only thing they can do at this point is try
to preserve as much of the open mindedness of perspective
jurors as they possibly can. But with all of this happening,
I don't know how they're going to be able.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
To do it.
Speaker 13 (17:55):
It's going to be incredibly difficult.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Well, you know what, maybe they need to curb their
own client, because not only is Kanye West selling anti
Jewish material online one rant after the next against women
massage may just reeks it stinks, but their client, Sean
(18:19):
Combs Diddy is in business with Kanye from behind bars.
So I don't want to hear you whining, Joshua Ritter
about how everybody else is tainting the jury pool.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
What about their own client? Listen.
Speaker 14 (18:38):
West then shares a photo from his online shop at
easy dot com with shirts and blazon with Sean John.
West writes, I'm selling the Shawn John collaboration that me
and my brother spoke about before they locked him up.
We splitting the profits fifty to fifty. West quickly follows
up saying he will be giving Comb's half to Justin
as the mogul cannot earn more money while behind bars.
(19:01):
At first, fans believe West is referring to Justin Bieber,
but realize the rapper was likely addressing Justin.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Combs Okay, Hermiie Rodriguez Seawan Khme's whining behind bars filing.
He just filed one hundred million dollar lawsuit against NBC
for defamation. Now, of course we'll go back to Ritter
on this, But defamation means somebody has hurt your reputation. Okay,
there's a multi count sex trafficking indictment against him. What
(19:31):
else could possibly be done to his reputation? That said
one hundred million dollar lawsuit against NBC?
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Okay, but what about this harmonia.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
He's actually in business with Kanye selling apparel. They're going
to split it fifty to fifty. So if he's in
business with this guy, this hater, that's on him.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
That's his decision.
Speaker 10 (19:57):
That's right, And we hear a Daily Mail have been
trying to dig into what exactly this alleged.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Business arrangement was.
Speaker 10 (20:04):
However, on Twitter, Yazy Yay said that they had just discussed.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
This before he was locked up.
Speaker 10 (20:13):
Now we know that these two rappers had beef before
both of them became canceled and had fall from grace,
So it's really unclear whether Diddy knew about these designs.
How to prove them knew that this was coming out
at this time. My inclination is to think that this
is just Kanye trying to be scandalous again. I don't
(20:35):
think they have a set document that moment.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Hold on, just a moment.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Let's see that graphic control and the graphic of the
Sean John there you go. That's being sold on Kanye's website.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
And those are puffy didty t shirts.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
So let me understand, Josh Ritter, this is Diddy's Love
Go right, and it's being sold on Kanye's website. So
if he doesn't like that, or if he's not getting
a profit from it, has he filed a lawsuit or
tried an injunction to stop Kanye from selling his merchandise, No,
(21:17):
short answer. That means they're in business together, doesn't it.
Speaker 13 (21:23):
You think anybody can stop Kanye right now? You think
there's anyone in the world who can stop whatever he's
trying to do. Listen, Sean Combs is locked up. He's
looking to go to federal prison for the rest of
his life. I think the least of his worries is
the nonsense that Kanye is putting out on the internet.
And not to split hairs here, but I'm going to
go ahead and do it. Even according to Kanye, this
(21:45):
was a business arrangement. They had discussed before he got
locked up. So the idea that he's somehow promoting this
now a part of this deal now, profiting off of
this deal now is just let me.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Just subject you to a lightning around really quickly, Joshua Ritter,
isn't it true that Sean Commes has just filed a
one hundred million dollar lawsuit against NBC?
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Yes? No, yes, okay.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
So if he has time to file multiple civil lasses,
not just the one hundred mili against NBC, but many
many others for defamation, if he's got time to do that,
he doesn't have time to stop Kanye from selling his
Ditties T shirts.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
He knows it's there. If I know it's there, he
knows it's there.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
So if he's filing all these civil lawsuits, why can't
he just ask Kanye to take down his merch unless
he's profiting from it.
Speaker 6 (22:42):
I mean, that's kind of my point.
Speaker 13 (22:43):
Maybe he is asking him, Maybe his team is reaching out,
don't I don't know if Kanye is listening to anyone.
You've got to imagine Kanye's got a team of people
telling him to put up a swastika shirt. Is not
a great idea, sir, and he's doing it anyway. So
I don't know if the idea of former business partners
having a collaboration and having a discussion about please don't
(23:05):
sell my merchandise it's not the right time right now
is actually being received with all of them that much.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
You're telling me everybody can control Kanye West. Well, here's
the guy that paid at least eight million dollars for
Super Bowl AD. Okay, here you go, puppy, here you go.
Here's your defense character witness number one.
Speaker 5 (23:33):
I spent like all the money for a commercial.
Speaker 6 (23:40):
On these new teeth. Once again, I had to shoot
it on the iPhone. Go to easy dot com.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
That's from Yeezy LLLC.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Texas pastor TD Jakes. That's the court for help. After
becoming embroiled in the Diddy drama when he's mentioned.
Speaker 15 (23:58):
In one of Sean Combs suits, I even said the apology,
and they still with me. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
I said apologies.
Speaker 15 (24:07):
Some of the stuff I was saying was true, And
so y'all come up and say, yo, what he was
saying some of that was true?
Speaker 6 (24:13):
Then go ahead, what on it?
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Okay, there you go.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Kanye on TMZ talking about his apology.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Okay, take a listen to this now.
Speaker 11 (24:26):
After the apology, Wes Tirade then takes an even darker turn,
rescinding his apology for previous anti Semitic and racist remarks.
I'm never apologizing for my Jewish comments. I can say
whatever the I want to say forever. Suck my How's
that for an apology? Wes then makes even more shocking tweets,
(24:48):
I'm a Nazi.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Hitler is so fresh. I love Hitler? What now? Okay,
that's really going to help Puffy? Good luck with that?
Did he?
Speaker 4 (25:00):
And there's more. West tweets that he's uncancellable. What are
y'all gonna do? Cancel my record deal, freeze my accounts?
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Call y'all.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
West is referencing the fallout from his previous anti Semitic
comments in twenty twenty two that got him temporarily banned
from X, lost him his deal with Adidas, and had
the Easy brand ripped from shelves and stores like Gap.
When I wake up, I'm going death calm three on
Jewish people.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Okay, there you go again. Shawn Comes's character witness number one.
I can't wait for that cross examination, Like if i'd
like to do it myself. Now, how did a well
respected pastor now all over the world get dragged into
Sean Combs and his vortex of sex trafficking allegations?
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Listen?
Speaker 14 (25:51):
In his own lawsuit, Rodney Lilrod Jones claims to have
irrefutable proof that Shawn Comb's plan to leverage his relationship
with TD Jakes to soften the damage to his reputation
as a result of Cassie Ventura's horrifying lawsuit. Comb's and
Jake's became associated when Jakes began a sermon series on
Comb's network, Revolt TV in twenty twenty one. In December
(26:13):
twenty twenty three, Jakes was accused of participating in Combe's
sex parties on social media unverified claims.
Speaker 16 (26:20):
Jakes denies Okay Harmoney at Rodriguez joining US chief US
reporter at dailymail dot com who claims that the.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Pastor TD Jakes took part in sex parties.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
With Sean Combs.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
I mean the pastor is I think that was in
the Hamptons, is pictured at a drive by at a party,
and somehow that spins out to he's in the middle
of an orgy.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
I don't believe that I agree.
Speaker 10 (26:56):
I think this pastor, who's really popular in the Dallas
area in his megachurch, has been one of the high
profile people that have sort of caught in this story
because they used to hang out with Diddy a lot.
This pastor particularly particularly though, was really really close.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
To the rapper.
Speaker 10 (27:15):
As your report mentioned, he had his own show on
Ditty's Revolt Media. And most interestingly, as your report said,
Rodney Jones claims that Ditty was already setting up a
defense for himself because he knew that Cassie lawsuit would
inspire as it did dozens of other accusers, and that
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he was counting of this very respected pastor to be
the person to tell the world that these were all lies,
that he knows that Ditty's a good man, and to
speak up for him.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
However, that has not happened.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
You know, doctor Bethany Marshall joining us renounce psycho analyst
and author Doctor Bethany I have been defending TD Jakes,
and I have met with a great.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Deal of criticism. I mean, who do you think.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
A pastor is going to mentor have you ever heard
preaching to the choir?
Speaker 2 (28:12):
You don't want.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
To save the choir members? They're already saved. Okay, I
mean you were a missionary, your parents' missionaries who did
Christ minister? He ministered the untouchables, the people that had leprosy,
the outcasts, the tax collectors, the hookers, the criminals, those
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people that others shunned.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
So now T D.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Jakes I believe was targeted by Comes thinking that an
association with a man of God would somehow buff up
his own image. I don't know did Jakes have any
idea what Comes was doing?
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Maybe maybe not, But that does.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Not mean him ministering to colms or his group of cronies.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
That doesn't make him a bad person.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
I really resent people throwing Jakes and the pot to
stew with Sean Combs.
Speaker 7 (29:24):
You know, Nancy, not only am I a preacher's daughter,
but I'm an ordained minister as well. And a part
of my training and my experience is that you don't
go into the ministry to help people who are rich
or famous, or healthy or have all the benefits of life.
You go into the ministry so that you can help
people who are in need. That means people who have
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mental disorders, people who have personality disorders, people who have
poor judgment, you gravitate towards them, you try to mentor them,
and you know, Nancy, sometimes you get dirty, meaning that
you can't sanitize your experience and help a people. With
Ted Jakes, I think a couple of things happened.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
I think that.
Speaker 7 (30:06):
The rapper targeted him, first of all. Secondly, criminals always
find God right, So if we think of these rappers
and the criminal acts, of course they're going to associate
themselves with God. Sometimes, Nancy, they even think they are God.
And finally, have any of the parishioners come forward with
Ted Jakes and accused him of anything. I mean the
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fact that there are no other accusations against him in
the coming days. If we see that nobody comes forward
and says TD Jakes violated me, then we have to
assume that TD Jakes is not a predator. Puff is
a little bit more cold blooded. Fits the stereotype of
associate path. Kanye does as well, but he's also very
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erratic drug using and by his own admission to President Trump,
he's bipolar. And people are bipolar have fantasies of being unlimited.
They lack insight into what's happened to them, and they
could be very cruel and horrible to the people around them.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
It's not just whispers.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Apparently evildoers have created AI faults. Of course, images of
this pastor engaged in crimes.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Listen.
Speaker 9 (31:19):
Since Rodney Jones lawsuit, TD, Jake says he has become
a victim of widespread online misinformation. Hundreds of YouTube videos
created with AI falsely shows Jakes in a prison jumpsuit
purporting that he's been arrested in connection with Sean Combe's
federal sex trafficking case. Others go as far to show
doctrinate images of Jake's in bed with other black male celebrities.
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Jones has asked a California clerk to subpoena Google to
get information on several YouTube accounts in hopes of sending
cease and desist orders or even filing defamation lawsuits.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
So, Joshua Ritter, you're a veteran trial lawyer.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
You see Jakes fighting back by trying to find out
from Google who created these false images of him, for instance,
in a prison jumpsuit, him for instance, taking part in
some type of an orgy all lies, I believe, and
he is actively fighting it by trying to get the
(32:19):
information and stopping the AI images and this is all
because of his association with Sean comes another victim as
far as I can tell, Well.
Speaker 13 (32:30):
Yeah, and in demonstrates too how these narratives get spun
out of control.
Speaker 6 (32:34):
Right, we live in.
Speaker 13 (32:36):
Really scary and unfortunate times where people have access to
this type of technology and where a lie makes its
way around the world before the truth has time to
get out of bed. So here you have another example
of a person being accused of something with nothing to.
Speaker 6 (32:52):
Back it up.
Speaker 13 (32:52):
Now, am I going to then draw a connection between
that and what's happening with mister Homes?
Speaker 6 (33:00):
Perhaps?
Speaker 13 (33:01):
Is there a lot of noise out there? Is there
a lot of allegations? Is there a lot of people
spinning narratives out of control? Have we heard evidence that
the government has not put on their case yet? So
I think this demonstrates a kind of lesson for this
entire case. It's that narratives can't get out of troll
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can control. People can spin up tails online and before
you know it, you're defending yourself against phantoms and made
up theories.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
Brother Love won't be feeling much love this Valentine's Day.
As the infamous rapper and musician Sean Puppy Combs awaits
trial in prison, Keep running.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Stop calling me bizarre and press.
Speaker 15 (33:52):
For all these years, I got to the point, how
many more times are gonna call me crazy? How many
more times are gonna give me fake medication that makes
me fat off of a misdiagno, when I really has
slight size of autism from the car accident.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
What that's that's my friend, Harvey levin Iver at TMZ.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
I need to see that again. Could you please roll
that one more time?
Speaker 15 (34:10):
I keep running calling me bizarre and pressed for all
these years, I got to your point.
Speaker 6 (34:15):
How many more times a you're gonna.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Call me crazy?
Speaker 15 (34:17):
How many more times are you gonna give me fake
medication that makes me fat off of a misdiagnosis when
I really has slight signs of autism from the car accident?
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Kim K what were you thinking? Again?
Speaker 1 (34:29):
From our friends at TMZ. Now with a character witness
like that again, who needs enemies? I'm talking about Shawn
com sitting behind bars getting ready for his chicken patty
for dinner tonight for Valentine's Day. But another thing in
regard and I can't wait here. Lynn Shaw react to
this this character witness Kanye West just made a complete
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horses asking himself again at the Grammys. Now he is
dissing all of the alleged victims in the Shawn Combs case.
He is mocking Cassie Ventira, who is beaten with an
inch of her life on video at the hands of
Sean Combs. And then he takes two the actual red
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carpet and pulls a hateful, misogynistic stunt. There you go,
telling his wife Beyoncasen, sorry to drop her clothes. Okay,
who are you going to find to put on a
jury that hasn't heard about this harmonia?
Speaker 2 (35:41):
I mean, you'd have to be under a.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
Rock in a cave on the other side of the
world not to know about that. All of this is
putting the nails and Diddy's coffin.
Speaker 10 (35:54):
Yeah, it certainly is not going to help didd. He sorry,
Kanye Is stunt at the Grammys was really disturbing to people.
There was a lip reader that claimed that Kanye had
said something like make a show, put up a show
right before she dropped that code. So, of course this
has added to the idea that Bianca Sensory is some
type of victim in this situation and it's being controlled
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by Kanye.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
Kenny himself came out saying.
Speaker 10 (36:19):
Later that trying to mock that narrative, saying that of
course he has dominion over his wife, and that I
mean that she wanted to do it, but that of
course she wouldn't have been allowed to do it if
he didn't approve of this. And once again he's using
his billions to justify all his behavior. He said something like,
do you think my wife cares about what you guys think?
(36:40):
She's a billionaire. So that's what he keeps going back to,
justifying or saying that none of what he does matters
because he's a billionaire.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
You know, as I've often told Jerry's Lynshaw, who do
you think the defendant hangs around with nuns and priests
and virgins?
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Misogynists hang out with misogynists.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
It's acceptable, It's okay, And that's the window we're getting
the lens of Kanye West to see Sean comes his
alleged business partner.
Speaker 8 (37:12):
Let's be real right now, as I do try to
remain calm everybody here, this is such I don't even
know the words to victims everywhere. Remember, everybody's watching this
case just this week. A couple of days ago, I
had a group and they were asking me again, what
do I think will happen here after? You know, Kanye
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and Dirty Ditty, they're allowed to be online, They're allowed
to sell T shirts, They're allowed over and over again
to have a voice in the public. To me, I
look at this as media distraction a million percent. I
think this is just all a lot of noise to
distract from the victims, from survivors, and to keep their
voices squelched so we don't hear anymore. And you know what,
(37:56):
why would anybody want to come forward and try to
go to court when all of this is going on.
They'd rather just forget about it, keep their mouths shut
and not be involved. This is just a travesty and
you know what, this is not going to go down well,
that is my.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
Prediction any of this.
Speaker 11 (38:13):
Shawn Combs quickly realizes he made a huge mistake in
publicly acknowledging West's purported support. By Monday morning, his posts
on Instagram had been removed, no explanation necessary. Combs's team
has yet to comment on the pr disaster.
Speaker 4 (38:28):
Macy's is arguing they should be dropped from a former
employee's sexual assault lawsuit, naming Sean Diddy Combs as his attacker.
The suit accuses the department store of violating a New
York gender violence law by covering up Comb's attack. Macy
Is now arguing the victim cannot allege Macy's had a
gender bias because Combs is willing to attack both men
(38:50):
and women. Their specific term an equal opportunity sexual predator.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
Somehow Macy's Department store is dragged into all of this,
joining me Harmani Rodriguez, joining US CHIEFUS reporter dailymail dot com.
There are new claims, new charges against Shaan Combs.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
What are they? It's incredible, Nancy.
Speaker 10 (39:11):
I mean, there's over twenty lawsuits at this point, and
so many factors of American society are involved.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
In this play in this case, including Macy's.
Speaker 10 (39:20):
Because a former employee filed a lawsuit claiming that Macy's
failed to stop Ditty from assaulting them at the Herald
Square Macy's store in Manhattan.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
This is truly something else.
Speaker 10 (39:34):
Macy's, of course, wants nothing to do with the p
Ditty scandal, and they're saying, as your report said, kind
of like This was not about Mazy. You know, Diddy
is an equal opportunity assaulter and he would do this everywhere.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
So it's not about Macy's. It's about this.
Speaker 10 (39:50):
Serial alleged assaulter, rapist, et cetera. That's what Macy's is
hoping that a port will agree with.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
You know Chris mcdana, former homicide did and now star
of the Interview Room on YouTube.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
So much of this is a side show.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
Okay, that has to be addressed because all of this
could affect a potential jury pool. But I wonder how
the victims are feeling, the alleged victims are feeling as
they see attention diverted away from what really happens to
them with life changing results, and all of this is
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going on. It's a sideshow, and I just wonder can
it suck in just one jurrr.
Speaker 12 (40:36):
You know, Nancy, I think that's why people love you
so much. You are so always on target about victim focus,
and in this situation, they do get lost in all
the noise around this predatorial apex behavior. Meaning this guy
is the top of the ring and you see through
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the associations that he has that you know, the victims
do get lost. But when we see that video going
down the hallway and that poor woman on the ground
basically having to adapt to behavior that she has realized
has saved her, and then we look at the brutality
of the offender, you know, I hope a jury does
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see it, quite frankly, and they put it in the
back of their head that this guy's just a phony
and he's a coward.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
Again, Sean Colmes, not just presumed innocent. He is innocent
until he is proven guilty in court. Nancy Gray signing
off goodbye friend,
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, Ditty and Kanye to share
a sad little Chicken patty for Valentine's dinner. This as
dozens of Ditty's alleged rape victims up in arms after
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rapper Kanye West demands President Trump.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Free Puff then.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Bumbles through a Super Bowl ad directing viewers to his website,
and when you get there, it offers one item for sale,
a swastika T shirt. Hey with friends like this, Kanye,
who needs enemies?
Speaker 2 (00:47):
I'm Nancy Grace, this is Crime Stories. Thank you for
being with us.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Free Puff. Controversial rapper Kanye West calls for Ditty's freedom
in a rambling ti rate of tweets defending the disgraced
musician charged with sex.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Oh yes he did.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
As if things could not get worse for Sean Combs
and according to prosecutors, he deserves all the misery.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Being heaped upon him. Coming to his aid.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Flying to his rescue is his friend Kanye West, who
manages to totally screw things up for him.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Listen.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
Kanye West shows his support for fellow rappers Sean Diddy
Combs with a simple post free Puff on both his
Instagram and x formerly Twitter account. West then begins a
flurry of tweets demanding Cone's release, even begging the President
to please free my brother Puff.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Now that's one thing, but then he goes on to bumble.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Through an eight million dollar Super Bowl ad, and it would.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Be wrong of me not to share that with you.
Speaker 5 (01:53):
Watch I spent like all the money for a commercial.
Speaker 6 (02:01):
On these new chiefs. Once again, I had to shoot
it on the iPhone. Go to easy dot com.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
That's from yez l LC okay number one, Why did
Kim Kardashian ever marry him? But that said, when you
go to easy dot com, the only thing there is
a swastika T shirt. The only thing at easy dot
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com is a T shirt with a swastika on it.
Let's go back to defending Sean Comb's a k A
Diddy a k A Puff straight out to doctor Bethany
Marshall joining us renown Psycho Alis out of the Beverly
Hills area. She is seen now on Peacock and author
(02:57):
of deal Breaker. Doctor Bethany with friends.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Like this, who needs enemies? This is like digging the
grave for Seawan Combs.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
To have Kanye come out and make a complete horses
ass of himself defending Diddy.
Speaker 7 (03:16):
Nancy, this is the kind of friend you do not want. Okay,
So this picture of him in the dentist's chair getting
his teeth done, it's so self aggrandizing because he feels
he's handsome while he has saliva dripping down his teeth.
That's just he doesn't understand how he comes to bast all.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Why hold that mental image when we can just punch
it again.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
Let's watch I spent like all the money for a commercial.
Speaker 6 (03:48):
On these new teeth once again. I had to shoot
it on the iPhone. Go to easy dot Com.
Speaker 7 (03:58):
Okay, Nancy, the iPhones are amazing, LC.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Let me give it all the credit it is to
do what Bethany.
Speaker 7 (04:04):
Okay, When he says I had to shoot it on
the iPhone, my first thought was, yeah, because your marketing
team doesn't want you to do it. They should have
taken your phone away too.
Speaker 6 (04:13):
You know.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Let's get real.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Just one moment to Lynn Shaw joining me, founder and
direct d of Lynn's Warriors, a nonprofit completely dedicated to
eradicating sex trafficking.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
And as much as I like watching.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Kanye's commercial over and over, as doctor Bethany said, seeing
the drill strip out of his mouth as he goes
on to defend Seawan Comb's I have handled so many
rape cases and so many sex trafficking cases.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
I'm thinking specifically.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Of a fourteen year old girl that was sex trafficked
and catch this Lynn. The night before her testimony, she disappeared.
I was out starting at three am till the time
I walked into court finding her because she was so
afraid to testify after being passed off to man after
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man after man after man, having up to twenty clients
in one day, this fourteen year old girl. It's really
hard to convey what rape victims go through. And I'm
talking about Sean Combs. It's not having his traditional champagne
(05:29):
Valentine's Day lunch or dinner.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
He's having a chicken patty.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
We've already checked that out with MDC Metropolitan Detention Center.
What is Kanye going to go visit his friend and
share that lonely little chicken patty.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
That said Linshaw.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
The reality of these alleged rape victims up in arms,
after all they've been through, with Kanye West pulling yet
another stunt at their expense, LND.
Speaker 8 (05:58):
We have to keep the focus on victims. Survivors, alleged
or not. We have to listen to them because it
is their testimony. It is them being able to go
to a court, it is them being able to stand
up to all of this that will hold these punks responsible.
(06:19):
And that's the bottom line here, that's what we're looking for.
And again, how is somebody going to recall something from
ten to twenty thirty years ago? Are they strong enough
all of this kind of fluff stuff in the media
and the ye by the way, he looked like he
was in a straight jacket to me in that video
and this one eating something he was.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
I mean, that's what it looked like to me. But
who am I to judge, you know?
Speaker 8 (06:42):
And dirty Diddy with a chicken patty. I only wish
some of my girls and women. There's been a few
boys and men too, who have gotten away, gotten out
of this sex trafficking, had a chicken patty to eat.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
I don't care about their food.
Speaker 8 (06:55):
I want us to put focus on strengthening, empowering, engaging
these survivors or alleged survivors so this will stick in court.
That is what we need to focus on here.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
You know, I'm just thinking Harmonia Rodriguez joining US. She
is chief US reporter at dailymail dot com. Harmonia, it's
all fun and games to look at Kanye's Yee's super
Bowl ad and see the teeth and hear the bumbling
(07:30):
and the drooling. But listen to this Harmonia. When you
go to yezy dot com, this is what you find.
Speaker 9 (07:38):
Within an hour of West's Super Bowl ad airing on TV,
the only item available in his shop is a twenty
dollars short sleeve white T shirt with a swastika on it.
The shirt is named HHO one. Many believe the letters
stand for Hyle Hitler. Critics and fans alike are absolutely horrified. Shopify,
(07:59):
The site's host suspends Yeezy's account within twenty four hours.
The site now reading this shop is not available.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
I mean there comes is sitting at MDC Metropolitan Detention
Center and he gets the support from Kanye West, who
stirs up such controversy with the alleged rape victims. I mean,
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think about it, Harmonia. I've dealt with so many rape
victims that their whole lives are in their mind ruined,
and therefore they are ruined.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
They are ruined by a rape.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
That feeling of helplessness, remembering it over and over again.
And Harmonia, we just heard Linshaw saying, can they remember
something that happened twenty years ago? I remember, I remember
exactly the moment I found out my fiance had been murdered.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
I remember the moment.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
I saw his bloody shirt on the state's council table
at the murder trial.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
I remember it like it was yesterday.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
That kind of trauma doesn't go away ever, and it
can totally destroy your life.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
And here is.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
This poc technical legal term, Kanye West going on air
on crazy rants, not only defending Combes but attacking Cassie Ventura.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Wait till I get to that. Tell me what's happening, Harmonia.
Speaker 10 (09:46):
As you said, it's absolutely despicable. Kanye West has been
in a mission to kind of prove to the world
that he can do whatever he wants.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Because he's still a billionaire.
Speaker 10 (09:54):
And he is, and I think that's what he was
trying to prove on that Super Bowl ad. So it's
worth noting that Shopify has now removed the swastika shirt.
But as you said, Nancy, he's not even just saying, oh,
you know, I believe in my friend Pub's innocence.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
He's not even saying that.
Speaker 10 (10:11):
He's kind of saying, who among us hasn't assaulted a woman?
He admitted on his ex account he said I have
slapped a woman before. He said sometimes women deserve to
be slabbed, and he's kind of picturing it. He's connecting
this to his anti Semitism and his praise of Hitler.
He's saying this is all part of a conspiracy by
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the Jews go after prominent men like himself and Diddy.
So this is I mean, some people might say Kanye
West is going through another bipolar episode, but it doesn't
even seem that way to me. It seems calculated. He
shared images of Ditty assaulting Cassie and mocked it. He
started selling a version of the jacket that Cassie was
(10:57):
wearing in that horrific video that we have ball scene Nancy.
So it's truly despicable and I think it will continue.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Crime stores with Nancy Grace.
Speaker 11 (11:16):
Among the Shawn John and Free Puff merchandise available for purchase.
Kanye West also offers a newly renamed version of his
twenty fifteen So Help Me God hoodie. In a tweet,
West points out it's the same hoodie that Cassie Ventura
is wearing in the damning video of Seawan Combe's attacking
her at the Intercontinental Hotel in twenty sixteen, West posts
(11:38):
side by side photos of the hoodie and a still
from the video, with the caption the love hoodie available now.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
You know the love hoodie available now?
Speaker 1 (11:53):
And we know one of shawn comes many many aliases
is law of aka brother Love aka Sean Combs aka
Ditty aka Puff aka Puffy aka puff Daddy. And it
goes on and on and on and on the love hoodie.
(12:14):
Let me see that one more time, the love hoodie.
He's selling that to mocking the attack on Cassie Ventura.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Now wait a minute. As reported by Hermania Rodriguez, listen
to this.
Speaker 9 (12:29):
West continues to tweet steals of the photo with different captions, first, writing,
when a man loves a woman, he may express it
in rage. I empathize with both sides. West follows up,
you have to truly be in love to get to
the point of risking everything. Finally, West seems to mock
the attack. Hey question, if someone wants to beat up
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their girl in public, would that be considered domestic violence
or Is that outdoor violence or is it just public indecency.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
I'm just asking for a friend.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Rapper and Kim k X drops controversial Diddy collab pleading
with President Trump to free his brother Pump.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Oh yes, that's right now dragged into Shawn Combs aka
Ditties criminal vortex. You've got President Trump, you've got Macy's Department.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Store, and you've got a renowned.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Pastor TD TD Jakes, all somehow mixed up with Shawn
COM's multi count federal sex trafficking indictment. I'll get to that,
but let's get to what's really important here. The sad
little Chicken Patty listen.
Speaker 9 (13:41):
Shawn Combs will spend his Valentine's Day with only the
guards and other inmates at the MDC. Instead of breakfast
in bed, he'll have cereal in the mess hall at
six am, and five hours later return for a chicken
patty sandwich or chickpea burger Instead of champagne and cavy are.
The Mogul will dine on chili with whole wheat bread.
(14:01):
Will calms repeat his Christmas meltdown when he learns that
there aren't any chocolate covered strawberries on the menu.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Two.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Chris mcdunna joining me, veteran homicide detective, founder of the
Cold Case Foundation, and star of the Interview Room program
on YouTube.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Chris, thank you for being with us. Do you care
if he.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Has a sad little chicken patty for Valentine's Day? Because
I don't that's going to be his dinner. This is
the guy that would demand people bring him cheesecake at
three am.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Why does anybody care?
Speaker 1 (14:38):
And I just wonder, is Kanye going to go for
a little visit and share that candlelight dinner in the
mess hall?
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 12 (14:45):
And come four pm when every inmate in that facility
has Chilian beans, It's going to be quite an explosion
later on. This guy is nothing but a dirt bag.
I mean, let's let's just put it where it is.
I mean, he is so offensive on so many levels,
and his friends now out into the public trying to
(15:08):
shock the public with his anti Semitism.
Speaker 6 (15:12):
This is just discussing on so many levels.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
You know, I'm just wondering too.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Joshua Ritter joining US, veteran criminal defense attorney out of
the LA jurisdiction, former prosecutor and host of Courtroom Confidential
on YouTube. Not bad, by the way, Josh Ritter, not
bad at all. Of course, everything you said is a BS,
but it is entertaining. So, Josh Ritter, you're the veteran
(15:37):
defense attorney who, to his credit, seems to win all
of his cases. Josh Ritter, how are you going to
strike a jury for Sean Combs when you've got Kanye
hanging around his neck like an albatross and all of
his BS.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
On the air.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
So here he is demanding very publicly that President Trump
three puff okay, going to bat for Seawn Combs and
comes It's like, hey man, I'm good, lay off. So
he posts that to Donald Trump, and you know how
Trump is. You know, he gets this late night Twitter
(16:15):
going on, so who knows what's gonna.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Happen with that.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
He's dragging in Macy's department store, which I will get
to later. He's dragging in a renowned man of god, T. D.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Jakes and his Maelstrom.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
But how are you going to strike a jury, Josh River,
when you've got Kanye going.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
To bat for Combs. So you're gonna have to Voo
Dyer to speak the truth in French.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
The jurors as to what do they know about the
Shawn Combs allegations, and what do they know about Kanye.
Speaker 13 (16:53):
It's gonna be incredibly difficult. That's It's gonna be an
absolute uphill battle. And part of the problem is Kanye
lost it. Obviously. I don't know what he's going through.
I don't know what kind of episode he's having.
Speaker 6 (17:05):
But all of this.
Speaker 13 (17:05):
Anti semitic, anti victim, pro domestic violence, all of that
is Kanye, but Puff is not Kanye. And that's the
big problem. Sean Combs is going to go on trial,
and you're right, he's going to have to stand in
front of an array of jurors and talk to them.
And if all of this noise and all of this
(17:26):
nonsense and all of this Kanye problems starts to leak over,
they're going to have a.
Speaker 6 (17:32):
Real time finding a fair jury.
Speaker 13 (17:35):
And I think that's why you're seeing his team start
to fight back on some of this, start to file
some of these lawsuits about defamation because they realize the
only thing they can do at this point is try
to preserve as much of the open mindedness of perspective
jurors as they possibly can. But with all of this happening,
I don't know how they're going to be able.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
To do it.
Speaker 13 (17:55):
It's going to be incredibly difficult.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Well, you know what, maybe they need to curb their
own client, because not only is Kanye West selling anti
Jewish material online one rant after the next against women
massage may just reeks it stinks, but their client, Sean
(18:19):
Combs Diddy is in business with Kanye from behind bars.
So I don't want to hear you whining, Joshua Ritter
about how everybody else is tainting the jury pool.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
What about their own client? Listen.
Speaker 14 (18:38):
West then shares a photo from his online shop at
easy dot com with shirts and blazon with Sean John.
West writes, I'm selling the Shawn John collaboration that me
and my brother spoke about before they locked him up.
We splitting the profits fifty to fifty. West quickly follows
up saying he will be giving Comb's half to Justin
as the mogul cannot earn more money while behind bars.
(19:01):
At first, fans believe West is referring to Justin Bieber,
but realize the rapper was likely addressing Justin.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Combs Okay, Hermiie Rodriguez Seawan Khme's whining behind bars filing.
He just filed one hundred million dollar lawsuit against NBC
for defamation. Now, of course we'll go back to Ritter
on this, But defamation means somebody has hurt your reputation. Okay,
there's a multi count sex trafficking indictment against him. What
(19:31):
else could possibly be done to his reputation? That said
one hundred million dollar lawsuit against NBC?
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Okay, but what about this harmonia.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
He's actually in business with Kanye selling apparel. They're going
to split it fifty to fifty. So if he's in
business with this guy, this hater, that's on him.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
That's his decision.
Speaker 10 (19:57):
That's right, And we hear a Daily Mail have been
trying to dig into what exactly this alleged.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Business arrangement was.
Speaker 10 (20:04):
However, on Twitter, Yazy Yay said that they had just discussed.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
This before he was locked up.
Speaker 10 (20:13):
Now we know that these two rappers had beef before
both of them became canceled and had fall from grace,
So it's really unclear whether Diddy knew about these designs.
How to prove them knew that this was coming out
at this time. My inclination is to think that this
is just Kanye trying to be scandalous again. I don't
(20:35):
think they have a set document that moment.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Hold on, just a moment.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Let's see that graphic control and the graphic of the
Sean John there you go. That's being sold on Kanye's website.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
And those are puffy didty t shirts.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
So let me understand, Josh Ritter, this is Diddy's Love
Go right, and it's being sold on Kanye's website. So
if he doesn't like that, or if he's not getting
a profit from it, has he filed a lawsuit or
tried an injunction to stop Kanye from selling his merchandise, No,
(21:17):
short answer. That means they're in business together, doesn't it.
Speaker 13 (21:23):
You think anybody can stop Kanye right now? You think
there's anyone in the world who can stop whatever he's
trying to do. Listen, Sean Combs is locked up. He's
looking to go to federal prison for the rest of
his life. I think the least of his worries is
the nonsense that Kanye is putting out on the internet.
And not to split hairs here, but I'm going to
go ahead and do it. Even according to Kanye, this
(21:45):
was a business arrangement. They had discussed before he got
locked up. So the idea that he's somehow promoting this
now a part of this deal now, profiting off of
this deal now is just let me.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Just subject you to a lightning around really quickly, Joshua Ritter,
isn't it true that Sean Commes has just filed a
one hundred million dollar lawsuit against NBC?
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Yes? No, yes, okay.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
So if he has time to file multiple civil lasses,
not just the one hundred mili against NBC, but many
many others for defamation, if he's got time to do that,
he doesn't have time to stop Kanye from selling his
Ditties T shirts.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
He knows it's there. If I know it's there, he
knows it's there.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
So if he's filing all these civil lawsuits, why can't
he just ask Kanye to take down his merch unless
he's profiting from it.
Speaker 6 (22:42):
I mean, that's kind of my point.
Speaker 13 (22:43):
Maybe he is asking him, Maybe his team is reaching out,
don't I don't know if Kanye is listening to anyone.
You've got to imagine Kanye's got a team of people
telling him to put up a swastika shirt. Is not
a great idea, sir, and he's doing it anyway. So
I don't know if the idea of former business partners
having a collaboration and having a discussion about please don't
(23:05):
sell my merchandise it's not the right time right now
is actually being received with all of them that much.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
You're telling me everybody can control Kanye West. Well, here's
the guy that paid at least eight million dollars for
Super Bowl AD. Okay, here you go, puppy, here you go.
Here's your defense character witness number one.
Speaker 5 (23:33):
I spent like all the money for a commercial.
Speaker 6 (23:40):
On these new teeth. Once again, I had to shoot
it on the iPhone. Go to easy dot com.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
That's from Yeezy LLLC.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Texas pastor TD Jakes. That's the court for help. After
becoming embroiled in the Diddy drama when he's mentioned.
Speaker 15 (23:58):
In one of Sean Combs suits, I even said the apology,
and they still with me. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
I said apologies.
Speaker 15 (24:07):
Some of the stuff I was saying was true, And
so y'all come up and say, yo, what he was
saying some of that was true?
Speaker 6 (24:13):
Then go ahead, what on it?
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Okay, there you go.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Kanye on TMZ talking about his apology.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Okay, take a listen to this now.
Speaker 11 (24:26):
After the apology, Wes Tirade then takes an even darker turn,
rescinding his apology for previous anti Semitic and racist remarks.
I'm never apologizing for my Jewish comments. I can say
whatever the I want to say forever. Suck my How's
that for an apology? Wes then makes even more shocking tweets,
(24:48):
I'm a Nazi.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Hitler is so fresh. I love Hitler? What now? Okay,
that's really going to help Puffy? Good luck with that?
Did he?
Speaker 4 (25:00):
And there's more. West tweets that he's uncancellable. What are
y'all gonna do? Cancel my record deal, freeze my accounts?
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Call y'all.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
West is referencing the fallout from his previous anti Semitic
comments in twenty twenty two that got him temporarily banned
from X, lost him his deal with Adidas, and had
the Easy brand ripped from shelves and stores like Gap.
When I wake up, I'm going death calm three on
Jewish people.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Okay, there you go again. Shawn Comes's character witness number one.
I can't wait for that cross examination, Like if i'd
like to do it myself. Now, how did a well
respected pastor now all over the world get dragged into
Sean Combs and his vortex of sex trafficking allegations?
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Listen?
Speaker 14 (25:51):
In his own lawsuit, Rodney Lilrod Jones claims to have
irrefutable proof that Shawn Comb's plan to leverage his relationship
with TD Jakes to soften the damage to his reputation
as a result of Cassie Ventura's horrifying lawsuit. Comb's and
Jake's became associated when Jakes began a sermon series on
Comb's network, Revolt TV in twenty twenty one. In December
(26:13):
twenty twenty three, Jakes was accused of participating in Combe's
sex parties on social media unverified claims.
Speaker 16 (26:20):
Jakes denies Okay Harmoney at Rodriguez joining US chief US
reporter at dailymail dot com who claims that the.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Pastor TD Jakes took part in sex parties.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
With Sean Combs.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
I mean the pastor is I think that was in
the Hamptons, is pictured at a drive by at a party,
and somehow that spins out to he's in the middle
of an orgy.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
I don't believe that I agree.
Speaker 10 (26:56):
I think this pastor, who's really popular in the Dallas
area in his megachurch, has been one of the high
profile people that have sort of caught in this story
because they used to hang out with Diddy a lot.
This pastor particularly particularly though, was really really close.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
To the rapper.
Speaker 10 (27:15):
As your report mentioned, he had his own show on
Ditty's Revolt Media. And most interestingly, as your report said,
Rodney Jones claims that Ditty was already setting up a
defense for himself because he knew that Cassie lawsuit would
inspire as it did dozens of other accusers, and that
(27:35):
he was counting of this very respected pastor to be
the person to tell the world that these were all lies,
that he knows that Ditty's a good man, and to
speak up for him.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
However, that has not happened.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
You know, doctor Bethany Marshall joining us renounce psycho analyst
and author Doctor Bethany I have been defending TD Jakes,
and I have met with a great.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Deal of criticism. I mean, who do you think.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
A pastor is going to mentor have you ever heard
preaching to the choir?
Speaker 2 (28:12):
You don't want.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
To save the choir members? They're already saved. Okay, I
mean you were a missionary, your parents' missionaries who did
Christ minister? He ministered the untouchables, the people that had leprosy,
the outcasts, the tax collectors, the hookers, the criminals, those
(28:40):
people that others shunned.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
So now T D.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Jakes I believe was targeted by Comes thinking that an
association with a man of God would somehow buff up
his own image. I don't know did Jakes have any
idea what Comes was doing?
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Maybe maybe not, But that does.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Not mean him ministering to colms or his group of cronies.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
That doesn't make him a bad person.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
I really resent people throwing Jakes and the pot to
stew with Sean Combs.
Speaker 7 (29:24):
You know, Nancy, not only am I a preacher's daughter,
but I'm an ordained minister as well. And a part
of my training and my experience is that you don't
go into the ministry to help people who are rich
or famous, or healthy or have all the benefits of life.
You go into the ministry so that you can help
people who are in need. That means people who have
(29:46):
mental disorders, people who have personality disorders, people who have
poor judgment, you gravitate towards them, you try to mentor them,
and you know, Nancy, sometimes you get dirty, meaning that
you can't sanitize your experience and help a people. With
Ted Jakes, I think a couple of things happened.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
I think that.
Speaker 7 (30:06):
The rapper targeted him, first of all. Secondly, criminals always
find God right, So if we think of these rappers
and the criminal acts, of course they're going to associate
themselves with God. Sometimes, Nancy, they even think they are God.
And finally, have any of the parishioners come forward with
Ted Jakes and accused him of anything. I mean the
(30:26):
fact that there are no other accusations against him in
the coming days. If we see that nobody comes forward
and says TD Jakes violated me, then we have to
assume that TD Jakes is not a predator. Puff is
a little bit more cold blooded. Fits the stereotype of
associate path. Kanye does as well, but he's also very
(30:50):
erratic drug using and by his own admission to President Trump,
he's bipolar. And people are bipolar have fantasies of being unlimited.
They lack insight into what's happened to them, and they
could be very cruel and horrible to the people around them.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
It's not just whispers.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Apparently evildoers have created AI faults. Of course, images of
this pastor engaged in crimes.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Listen.
Speaker 9 (31:19):
Since Rodney Jones lawsuit, TD, Jake says he has become
a victim of widespread online misinformation. Hundreds of YouTube videos
created with AI falsely shows Jakes in a prison jumpsuit
purporting that he's been arrested in connection with Sean Combe's
federal sex trafficking case. Others go as far to show
doctrinate images of Jake's in bed with other black male celebrities.
(31:42):
Jones has asked a California clerk to subpoena Google to
get information on several YouTube accounts in hopes of sending
cease and desist orders or even filing defamation lawsuits.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
So, Joshua Ritter, you're a veteran trial lawyer.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
You see Jakes fighting back by trying to find out
from Google who created these false images of him, for instance,
in a prison jumpsuit, him for instance, taking part in
some type of an orgy all lies, I believe, and
he is actively fighting it by trying to get the
(32:19):
information and stopping the AI images and this is all
because of his association with Sean comes another victim as
far as I can tell, Well.
Speaker 13 (32:30):
Yeah, and in demonstrates too how these narratives get spun
out of control.
Speaker 6 (32:34):
Right, we live in.
Speaker 13 (32:36):
Really scary and unfortunate times where people have access to
this type of technology and where a lie makes its
way around the world before the truth has time to
get out of bed. So here you have another example
of a person being accused of something with nothing to.
Speaker 6 (32:52):
Back it up.
Speaker 13 (32:52):
Now, am I going to then draw a connection between
that and what's happening with mister Homes?
Speaker 6 (33:00):
Perhaps?
Speaker 13 (33:01):
Is there a lot of noise out there? Is there
a lot of allegations? Is there a lot of people
spinning narratives out of control? Have we heard evidence that
the government has not put on their case yet? So
I think this demonstrates a kind of lesson for this
entire case. It's that narratives can't get out of troll
(33:21):
can control. People can spin up tails online and before
you know it, you're defending yourself against phantoms and made
up theories.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
Brother Love won't be feeling much love this Valentine's Day.
As the infamous rapper and musician Sean Puppy Combs awaits
trial in prison, Keep running.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Stop calling me bizarre and press.
Speaker 15 (33:52):
For all these years, I got to the point, how
many more times are gonna call me crazy? How many
more times are gonna give me fake medication that makes
me fat off of a misdiagno, when I really has
slight size of autism from the car accident.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
What that's that's my friend, Harvey levin Iver at TMZ.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
I need to see that again. Could you please roll
that one more time?
Speaker 15 (34:10):
I keep running calling me bizarre and pressed for all
these years, I got to your point.
Speaker 6 (34:15):
How many more times a you're gonna.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Call me crazy?
Speaker 15 (34:17):
How many more times are you gonna give me fake
medication that makes me fat off of a misdiagnosis when
I really has slight signs of autism from the car accident?
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Kim K what were you thinking? Again?
Speaker 1 (34:29):
From our friends at TMZ. Now with a character witness
like that again, who needs enemies? I'm talking about Shawn
com sitting behind bars getting ready for his chicken patty
for dinner tonight for Valentine's Day. But another thing in
regard and I can't wait here. Lynn Shaw react to
this this character witness Kanye West just made a complete
(34:54):
horses asking himself again at the Grammys. Now he is
dissing all of the alleged victims in the Shawn Combs case.
He is mocking Cassie Ventira, who is beaten with an
inch of her life on video at the hands of
Sean Combs. And then he takes two the actual red
(35:17):
carpet and pulls a hateful, misogynistic stunt. There you go,
telling his wife Beyoncasen, sorry to drop her clothes. Okay,
who are you going to find to put on a
jury that hasn't heard about this harmonia?
Speaker 2 (35:41):
I mean, you'd have to be under a.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
Rock in a cave on the other side of the
world not to know about that. All of this is
putting the nails and Diddy's coffin.
Speaker 10 (35:54):
Yeah, it certainly is not going to help didd. He sorry,
Kanye Is stunt at the Grammys was really disturbing to people.
There was a lip reader that claimed that Kanye had
said something like make a show, put up a show
right before she dropped that code. So, of course this
has added to the idea that Bianca Sensory is some
type of victim in this situation and it's being controlled
(36:16):
by Kanye.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
Kenny himself came out saying.
Speaker 10 (36:19):
Later that trying to mock that narrative, saying that of
course he has dominion over his wife, and that I
mean that she wanted to do it, but that of
course she wouldn't have been allowed to do it if
he didn't approve of this. And once again he's using
his billions to justify all his behavior. He said something like,
do you think my wife cares about what you guys think?
(36:40):
She's a billionaire. So that's what he keeps going back to,
justifying or saying that none of what he does matters
because he's a billionaire.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
You know, as I've often told Jerry's Lynshaw, who do
you think the defendant hangs around with nuns and priests
and virgins?
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Misogynists hang out with misogynists.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
It's acceptable, It's okay, And that's the window we're getting
the lens of Kanye West to see Sean comes his
alleged business partner.
Speaker 8 (37:12):
Let's be real right now, as I do try to
remain calm everybody here, this is such I don't even
know the words to victims everywhere. Remember, everybody's watching this
case just this week. A couple of days ago, I
had a group and they were asking me again, what
do I think will happen here after? You know, Kanye
(37:33):
and Dirty Ditty, they're allowed to be online, They're allowed
to sell T shirts, They're allowed over and over again
to have a voice in the public. To me, I
look at this as media distraction a million percent. I
think this is just all a lot of noise to
distract from the victims, from survivors, and to keep their
voices squelched so we don't hear anymore. And you know what,
(37:56):
why would anybody want to come forward and try to
go to court when all of this is going on.
They'd rather just forget about it, keep their mouths shut
and not be involved. This is just a travesty and
you know what, this is not going to go down well,
that is my.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
Prediction any of this.
Speaker 11 (38:13):
Shawn Combs quickly realizes he made a huge mistake in
publicly acknowledging West's purported support. By Monday morning, his posts
on Instagram had been removed, no explanation necessary. Combs's team
has yet to comment on the pr disaster.
Speaker 4 (38:28):
Macy's is arguing they should be dropped from a former
employee's sexual assault lawsuit, naming Sean Diddy Combs as his attacker.
The suit accuses the department store of violating a New
York gender violence law by covering up Comb's attack. Macy
Is now arguing the victim cannot allege Macy's had a
gender bias because Combs is willing to attack both men
(38:50):
and women. Their specific term an equal opportunity sexual predator.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
Somehow Macy's Department store is dragged into all of this,
joining me Harmani Rodriguez, joining US CHIEFUS reporter dailymail dot com.
There are new claims, new charges against Shaan Combs.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
What are they? It's incredible, Nancy.
Speaker 10 (39:11):
I mean, there's over twenty lawsuits at this point, and
so many factors of American society are involved.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
In this play in this case, including Macy's.
Speaker 10 (39:20):
Because a former employee filed a lawsuit claiming that Macy's
failed to stop Ditty from assaulting them at the Herald
Square Macy's store in Manhattan.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
This is truly something else.
Speaker 10 (39:34):
Macy's, of course, wants nothing to do with the p
Ditty scandal, and they're saying, as your report said, kind
of like This was not about Mazy. You know, Diddy
is an equal opportunity assaulter and he would do this everywhere.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
So it's not about Macy's. It's about this.
Speaker 10 (39:50):
Serial alleged assaulter, rapist, et cetera. That's what Macy's is
hoping that a port will agree with.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
You know Chris mcdana, former homicide did and now star
of the Interview Room on YouTube.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
So much of this is a side show.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
Okay, that has to be addressed because all of this
could affect a potential jury pool. But I wonder how
the victims are feeling, the alleged victims are feeling as
they see attention diverted away from what really happens to
them with life changing results, and all of this is
(40:30):
going on. It's a sideshow, and I just wonder can
it suck in just one jurrr.
Speaker 12 (40:36):
You know, Nancy, I think that's why people love you
so much. You are so always on target about victim focus,
and in this situation, they do get lost in all
the noise around this predatorial apex behavior. Meaning this guy
is the top of the ring and you see through
(40:56):
the associations that he has that you know, the victims
do get lost. But when we see that video going
down the hallway and that poor woman on the ground
basically having to adapt to behavior that she has realized
has saved her, and then we look at the brutality
of the offender, you know, I hope a jury does
(41:20):
see it, quite frankly, and they put it in the
back of their head that this guy's just a phony
and he's a coward.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
Again, Sean Colmes, not just presumed innocent. He is innocent
until he is proven guilty in court. Nancy Gray signing
off goodbye friend,
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