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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace Diddy behind bars.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Week one, that's right, Week one of the Diddy Jail Watch,
Shawn comes trying every trick in the book to walk
free until his October sentencing.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
One week.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
A lot can happen in just seven days, and believe me,
it's been rocking in the courthouse and the jailhouse. Good evening,
I'm Missy Grece. This is Crime Stories. I want to
thank you for being with us. In the last week,
Shawn Combs to his team, realizing they've got to redo
Diddy's image. It's time for a Diddy makeover. As Shawn
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Combs heads for sentencing, his lawyers aiming to show he
is no longer a quote.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Bad boy for life. Good luck joining us tonight.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Tisa Tails from Tisa Tales on YouTube Tisa what happened now?
Speaker 3 (00:57):
One of the most interesting things that and that came
out and it happened so loud it eclipsed the chairs
from all the.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Diddy Dirty Diddy Turnsi rolled degenerates.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Okay, was somebody named Chef Jordan. If you guys don't
know who this is, this is Ditty's chef. She's a
celebrity chef She's worked for some of the biggest names,
and one of the worst experiences.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
That happened to her was working with Diddy.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
She actually went on Instagram Live and said she predicted this.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
She said that she was set to testify. However, the
prosecution flew her in.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
She was set to testified that day, and minutes before
she took the stand that morning, the prosecution said, you
know what, never mind, You don't have to tell your story.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Now.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Why did they say never mind? Because she had been
telling the prosecution that they were playing this all wrong,
that they weren't speaking to the community. That she actually said,
no one cares about beaten women, nobody does.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
You need to tell them about the way he tweeted.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
The employees, and you need to talk about the executives. Now,
who are the executives. They were named throughout the lawsuit. Okay,
some of them were industry record executives, some of them
were the high level executives in Ditty's organization.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
She said that was the key, and she.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Implored the prosecution focus on that, focus on our beatings,
focus on our because they can't say that we signed
up for freak calls. It wasn't the fact that Diddy
like getting rough and hands these in free calls.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
It's the fact that, like Marine.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Comi said, did he like using his hands and feet?
Speaker 4 (02:36):
And when he couldn't use his hands and feets.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
He grabbed his pistols.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
And went a shooting again.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
The claims she made on her Instagram live literally had
people scratching their head.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
She said that.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Diddy, before the defense, had tried to get in touch
with her to subpoena her for the grand jury. They
didn't notified her that you've been subpoena you need to
testify on the grand to come in and have an
interview with the Feds. Before she even went to her
first interview with the Feds, She said she still has
the email, said Ditty's.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
Attorney reached out to her and said reached out to
her and said, mister Holmes's found out that it's come
to his attention that you're actually going to have to
be interviewed.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
We would like to offer you legal services. This is
the same legal services, the legal deal that they offered
the Jane.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
What's the difference between Chef Jordan and Jane.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Well, for one, Chef Jordan was never in a free call,
but the other thing. Check Jordan previously had accused Diddy
of assaulting her, beating her, doing the worst to her.
She couldn't stand Didding and she swore never to talk
to him again or be around him.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
So again, some people said, that's not what is tampering.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Check Jordan came out and said she considered it witness
tampering because we never liked each other.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
You don't like me, I don't like you.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
How did you even know what I'm doing?
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Where is the mole?
Speaker 3 (04:04):
She was terrified, she was scared for her life again
and social media, our heads were exploding. Why didn't the
prosecution call her? She was ready and able? How did
you think Jane was a better witness till as opposed
to Chef Jordan again?
Speaker 4 (04:19):
She told us so.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Much, Lauren Comlin, what exactly happened?
Speaker 6 (04:23):
I think that a.
Speaker 7 (04:24):
Lot of people are extremely disappointed in the verdict, and
I think that's because they've seen what this man is
capable of, what he's gotten away with throughout the years.
Speaker 6 (04:38):
You know, it's been decades and decades.
Speaker 7 (04:41):
Of I guess activity that could be labeled criminal. Although
if I bring up the Club New York shooting, I'm
going to have someone come at me and say, no,
somebody was convicted of that and serve time. Okay, sure, yes,
Shine did serve time for that. But intellectually, I think
many of us feel that Shawn Colmes was responsible, even
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though again a court of law and ena jury said
that this was Shine. So I think that at this point,
I again I understand why people are disappointed in the verdict.
Speaker 6 (05:17):
I just I don't think that this was a federal case.
Speaker 7 (05:21):
I think that if this case actually got to a
state court in Los Angeles in twenty sixteen after the
Cassie video hands down, he would have been convicted on
aggravated assault and bribery most likely, and we wouldn't be here.
Speaker 6 (05:37):
So, you know, we'll wait and see. I'm anxious for
October third.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
And in the last seven days, bookies all over the
world going haywire. That's right, bets through the roof. How
long will did he stay behind bars?
Speaker 7 (05:54):
Yes, many people are taking bets right now about how
long did he will stay behind bars?
Speaker 6 (06:02):
What kind of sentencing will he get?
Speaker 7 (06:05):
I think that it's been really crazy because a lot
of attorneys were mind blown by the fact that Ditty
was staying behind bars based on prostitution charges or a
prostitution conviction alone, because that's not really standard here. But
this case, in many ways is not your standard federal case.
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When the judge did not grant Ditty bail and made
him stay behind bars until sentencing, I think I was
mainly confused because I saw the judge kind of joke
with him in the morning, and you know, when Mark
Agnippolo brought up bail, the judge said, okay, mister Holmes,
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I understand you would like to leave the MDC, and
he kind of smiled and.
Speaker 6 (06:57):
Diddy was like yes.
Speaker 7 (06:59):
So to me, I was like, wow, this judge is
really considering it here, because why else would he make
jokes with him.
Speaker 6 (07:06):
Well, turns out, yeah, that didn't happen. He did.
Speaker 7 (07:10):
He obviously has to stay where he is until his
bail hearing, which or i'm sorry, until his sentencing hearing,
which is October third, twenty twenty five. But what the
judge cited was that it was the defense's own words
that their client was a violent man. He was violent,
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and this was their own admission. And additionally, they got
letters from Cassie and the chef of Chef Atkinson saying
that they were scared for their lives essentially if he
were to be released.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Tasa way in.
Speaker 8 (07:45):
I know you guys have heard the rumors.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
There are beds going around worldwide.
Speaker 8 (07:51):
Diddy's name is trending.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Not on the charts well like Kanye did he would hope,
but their name. His name is trending among the bookies
the world. People are taking bets to see how long
Sean Diddy Combs is going to stay behind bars.
Speaker 8 (08:06):
Now what am I hearing?
Speaker 6 (08:08):
Listen?
Speaker 3 (08:08):
I know Diddy's team did the impossible, but judging by
Judge Aaron's tone, and even though him asking, hey, I
want prosecution and defense to bring me evidence about what
the minimal sentence or the average sentence in man access,
they are looking at that, and Diddy's team seems to
be celebrating. So you would think the bookies would make
more money by betting the Diddy stays in jail longer.
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But here's the thing, Okay, judging by Judge Aaron's tone.
Speaker 9 (08:36):
What he told Diddy, the way he used Didty, the
way he used Diddy supporters, and the way Diddy has
shown no remorse, I'm thinking that the bookies.
Speaker 8 (08:46):
Might have it wrong.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Again, It's just a guess, but Diddy might stay in
there for five to ten years.
Speaker 8 (08:52):
But here's the thing that I think everybody's overlooking. Okay,
the bookies need to have.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
A bet on how long Sean Diddy Combs is going
to stay out of jail.
Speaker 8 (09:02):
Because let's not forget, this is a man that was
being surveiled.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
This is a man that was facing smegs, trafficking, violence,
public condemnation, and this is a man that not only
was ordering escorts when he knew what he was up against,
but he beat Jane viciously and then he made her
perform again, unrepentant and unafraid. So again, just like John
Gotti and just like R Kelly, Yes, that's might have
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missed on the first round because many people argue that
Mark Agnfilio rushing the trial actually short circuited the fed's
investigation and they weren't able to get as much information
or convince as many witnesses as they liked to come
and actually share their story. But again, my bed is,
it's not how long Diddy is going to do time,
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it's how long he's.
Speaker 8 (09:52):
Going to stay out of jail. Because somebody that arrogant,
that proud, that perverted, that stubborn.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
In my opinion, it's only a matter time before Ditty
is his own undoing and now not just the FEDS,
but everyone, including girls. He wants to fly out to
the Turks, including sex workers. He wants to call and say, Hey,
we have a party going on.
Speaker 8 (10:13):
Can you be here in thirty minutes. Everybody is going
to be on the lookout. Some people will be opportunists,
but the victims.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Know that they now have a narrative that they can
stake a case on again.
Speaker 8 (10:27):
How long is Diddy going to keep himself out of jail?
I don't know. I think he's going to be back in.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Let's just say he gets promotion, probation and time serve.
I think he's going to go back in within two years.
A leopard does not change their stripes, and right now
Diddy is wearing a full.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Four coat joining us now veteran defense attorney Eric Fattus
Eric Way in Nancy.
Speaker 10 (10:51):
If I was a betting man, which I'm not, my
money would be on a sentence that is really on
the lower end of the You know, I've heard a
lot of folks discussing this, and numbers that come up
are like between two and three years. Now, let's be clear,
he is facing up to ten years on each of
his two convictions, so a total of up to twenty
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years could be run consecutively, meaning one after the other,
but could be also run concurrently, meaning the sentences would
run at the same time. There's at least a chance,
with no criminal history and only being convicted on the
least serious counts that did he get somewhere within the
two to three year range or even possibly time served.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
In the last week, Seawn Combs's former chef says she's
afraid of retaliation after that split verdict, that she is
in fear for her own safety. As you will recall,
we covered it, but I didn't really hear about it
in the courtroom. Shawn combs Is personal chef was in
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a confrontation with Shawn Combs, she alleges, and there is
a witness that Sean Combs attacked her and beat her. Afterwards,
Combs asked one of his minions to go to the
police and report the incident and lie and claim the
female chef was the aggressor. Sounds just like what he
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said about Cassie in that beat down video from the Intercontinental.
The private chef Jordan Atkinson says she was a witness
and a victim of his physical abuse while she worked
for him. She sends a letter to the judge begging
that comes be denied bail while he awaits sentencing.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
How powerful would it have been Diddy's personal chef who
was not a girlfriend, because apparently when you beat your girlfriend,
you're fine. Had got on stand and been allowed to
tell her story?
Speaker 6 (12:49):
What is that story?
Speaker 4 (12:50):
Simple?
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Did he and her had words? Did he was always violental?
According to her? Okay, he assaulted her for no reason,
out of the blue. He then instructed okay, he then
instructed his minions to go to the police station and
follow a fake police report against chef Jordan, saying.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
She was the She was the aggressor. But that's not
even it.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
She witnessed him be violent to countless other employees. She
witnessed him be violent to Cassie. The infinitous two thousand
and nine beating that left her was Cassie with permanent
brain injury. According to Cassie, she witnessed that too. Again,
how powerful would that be? Why didn't the prosecution get
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her on There is no perfect witness, but Jane could
get on the stand. Why couldn't Chef Jordan Again, I
wish the prosecution had listened to her, because again she
is right. Unfortunately, that group of twelve did not care
about any of the violence, any of the violence that
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pertains twenty woman that Diddy loved. However, she was the
link I believe to proving Rico, this is a criminal
organization dedicated not just to fulfilling all your six sexual desires,
but also to covering up the decades of violence you
have allegedly inflicted on your employees and anybody that stood
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in your way. Again, you got don't wonder why it
didn't happen. However, shep Jordan did write a letter to
the judge begging him to see Diddy for who he
is and now not to the star glazed eyes of
the jury.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
Again. We will see in October third if Judge Aaron
heard her.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
During the last seven days, sex assault survivors across the
country stunned claiming that Sean comes verdict is a huge
step back for the Me too movement.
Speaker 7 (14:58):
I don't necessarily think that this was a setback for
the Me too movement. I really think that this was
such a unique and complicated case because of the fact
that Shawn Colmes was in a relationship with both Cassie
and Jane, and the correspondences that the jury saw they
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were very nuanced here, very very nuanced, and unfortunately, assault
or aggravated assault and domestic violence.
Speaker 6 (15:33):
This just was not a charge.
Speaker 7 (15:35):
But I do feel like if we were back in
twenty sixteen and there was an aggravated assault charge brought
against Seawan Colmes as well as bribery, it would be
a no brainer and he would have been convicted and
we wouldn't be here. So I think again that you know,
the federal case against him may have been an overreach
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certain certain aspects of it, but I don't think that
anybody should be deterred from coming forward.
Speaker 6 (16:06):
I really really don't.
Speaker 7 (16:07):
And I think that the one thing that I'll also
say about this.
Speaker 6 (16:11):
Is come forward to the police first.
Speaker 7 (16:14):
I know that there are many reasons why survivors don't
want to go to the police, and I understand that.
Speaker 6 (16:22):
I completely get that.
Speaker 7 (16:24):
I will say going to the police before going to
a civil attorney will one hundred percent help the credibility
of the survivor in court. Based on what I've seen
in court, and again this is not me saying I
don't believe anybody because they went to a civil attorney.
Speaker 6 (16:43):
Absolutely not.
Speaker 7 (16:45):
I just think that based on what I've seen in
these cases before doing that, if you're going to go
to anybody, please go to law enforcement. Again, I understand
why so many survivors don't do that, but if you
are considering this, please go there first.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
And in the last seven days, after their father, Sean
Combs is taken out of the courtroom to the jailhouse
and tears his children on the move as well, Christian
Combs heads to Jamaica.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
He needs a vacation after that split.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Verdict, while Shawn Combs is twin daughter's announced following all
the press and media surrounding their dad's conviction, they're going
to use this opportunity to launch their own clothing line.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Christian comes is back on vacation. But I gotta tell
you the truth. Did he ever leave vacation.
Speaker 11 (17:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (17:38):
They waddled in a couple of weeks during the trial.
Two weeks in the beginning, two weeks at the end.
But after that, Christian was living his life.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
I was in the courtroom every day and I got
to tell you, I didn't see him that often.
Speaker 8 (17:50):
Now that said, okay.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Did he's a monster to me, but he is a
father of a Christian So maybe the weight of the kids,
and I use that term loosely because.
Speaker 8 (18:00):
Is what twenty eight twenty nine.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
I think a one son is thirty the other son
is thirty one going on thirty two. But did they's children,
at least the male children. Maybe it's a lot seeing
their father in the courtroom. Maybe it's a lot.
Speaker 8 (18:13):
Of hearing what their father like smeared over his body.
Speaker 11 (18:17):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
I don't want to judge the twins. However, they are
little girls. They just turned eighteen. They seem very All
his daughters seem very mild manner, very sweet. They try
to actually come up with a clothing line, a hoodie line.
I believe it's called twelve twenty one, but like anything
tied to Ditty's legacy, there is already scandal.
Speaker 8 (18:40):
They came up with this really cute post about it means.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Numerology One is you know anthropresioneership, two is this and that,
and then.
Speaker 8 (18:49):
It's twenty one backwards.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Okay again, it makes it into the moment you had
to see the.
Speaker 8 (18:54):
Effort However, as much as people try to advocate that
Ditty's team advocates for.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
The commune, there is a black creator who has a
hoodie line and a clothing line named twelve twenty one.
Speaker 8 (19:08):
Now, I don't blame the Colmbs' daughters. They are young.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Clearly did he knows in my mind that all his
assets are probably going to be seized in forfeiture, and
he's trying to make income streams through his children so it.
Speaker 8 (19:20):
Can't flow back into him. So I don't blame the
doorters for this scandal.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
I don't think there's daughters were on the Internet trying
to steal up and coming black designers.
Speaker 11 (19:31):
Designs.
Speaker 8 (19:32):
I don't think that at all. However, I do think
that the team that did he put him with are
probably some of Diddy's best.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Employees for Sean Jones, and I think they operate under
the Combs quote unquote recal organization of the way you
move ahead in a business.
Speaker 8 (19:48):
And the way that you went so in that way,
I do.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Not think the twins did anything untowards but I think
the team that their daddy put them with, the team
that helped Diddy commit man A violations.
Speaker 8 (20:01):
I think that team is now in full of fact,
and it's odd to me that even.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
With all eyes watching, the first thing they do, according
to this content creator, it looks like is still from
another content creator again. And I say this one size
that it's going to be a long heart road for
Diddy to change his nature. And I don't think at
any point, even what he just did to his daughters
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with a team he set up with them, I don't
think in any way he is anywhere close to doing that.
Speaker 8 (20:30):
So, yeah, it's gonna be.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
A long heart road to anybody that cheers the Combs names,
because as long it seems like, as long as they
like Diddy get close to anything they're doing, yeah, it's
always gonna just yeah.
Speaker 11 (20:44):
Rotten Zucchini.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Joining us now with the light is Crime Stories investigative
reporter Sydney Sumner. Sydney, what more can you tell us
about that?
Speaker 12 (21:27):
Well?
Speaker 13 (21:27):
I think agna Philo was realizing he may have put
his foot in his mouth again, leaning way too far
into Combe's ownership of his violent tendencies. I mean, he's
been dressed, in your words, as a Harvard underground for the.
Speaker 6 (21:39):
Duration of the trial.
Speaker 13 (21:41):
They are really trying to make him look like a
clean cut, humble family man. They want the judge to
focus on Combe's relationship with his kids, his charity work,
and his previous attempts at rehab and promises to do
better in the future. But they are fighting back decades
of a bad boy legacy. Shawn Combs hasn't and humble
down to Earth are truly apologetic for anything he's done
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in years. He throws violent tantrums when he doesn't get
his way. He attacks someone at a wedding for going
on a date with his X. He beat Steve Stout
for leaving a clip he didn't approve of in a
music video. He broke into Vibe magazine because the editor
wouldn't send him a preview cover. There are years of
proven violent allegations against him on top of what the
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judge heard in court. Defense attorneys can do their best
to paint Combs in a positive light, but I think
their initial objection to a full pre sentencing investigation wasn't
to get things over with, but out of fear of
what may be discovered if authorities do any more digging
on his past.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Oh My Stars second verse same as the first. Kanye
West rearing his ugly head again. That's right, Kanye West
and Shawancomb's AKA Ditty set to release another album amidst
the scandal.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
We've got so much to look forward to.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Kanye West and Shawn Comes attempting to join forces again
in the studio and the jailhouse, despite both the artists
facing intense backlash and scrutiny. How in the world is
Shawn Comes going to record tracks with Kanye West?
Speaker 14 (23:22):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Oh, they've done it before. Shawn Combs recorded on the
jail house phone, joining us now veteran defense attorney Eric
Fattus Eric Way in Nancy.
Speaker 10 (23:35):
I wouldn't be unprecedented for a musician to record some
new music while in custody. It's happened before. They can
do it over the jail phone. Sometimes there's kind of
like a zoom opportunity for jailhouse visits. Perhaps they'll do
it in that fashion. Natany has to be careful though,
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because you know there'll be some folks who come.
Speaker 11 (23:59):
Out to support him after this verdict.
Speaker 10 (24:01):
He's going to be selective about with whom he aligns,
and you know, Kanye West yay right now is maybe
just not the most favorable character with whom Diddy should
be associating if he is trying to rebrand and sort
of revitalize his career and his image.
Speaker 11 (24:19):
Ditty is a master marketer. He always has been.
Speaker 10 (24:23):
He's been able to market himself, and I wouldn't be
surprised if some of those.
Speaker 11 (24:28):
Traits trickled down genetically to his children.
Speaker 10 (24:32):
You know, is this the best timing to be launching
a new clothing line. The reasonable minds can differ on that,
but I'm not surprised that folks in the Ditty camp,
including his son, are taking this as an opportunity, trying
to find some kind of silver lining that they can
use to then promote themselves and their own life.
Speaker 7 (24:53):
Lauren Conlin Way in Well Nancy, Kanye West has already
been recording music with Christian call Holmes, as you know,
Hugh caught a shout out. But really anything can be
done through prison or through jail. I mean the fact
that sug Knight actually has a podcast that he records
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while in jail, and not only that he's a frequent
guest on different news.
Speaker 6 (25:21):
And media outlets. I mean, we really.
Speaker 7 (25:24):
Shouldn't be surprised here that Kanye West and Diddy are
planning to record music through the jailhouse phones, and I mean,
do they think that that also gives them some kind
of credibility here with people? The fact that Diddy is
still working hard behind bars, he's trying to ensure that
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he has a future in the music industry ahead of him.
Speaker 6 (25:48):
I mean, will people.
Speaker 7 (25:50):
Be cool with that or will they look down upon
that and just say, look, man, do your time, act
like you're sorry and kind of, you know, with all
this stuff later after your affairs are in order.
Speaker 6 (26:03):
I guess we'll wait and see.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
And apparently all across sections of our population have been
affected by the Ditty verdict tonight, we understand infuriated swingers
are speaking out about the impact Ditty's free cough parties.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Have had on the swinger community.
Speaker 10 (26:23):
So, not surprisingly, the swinger community doesn't want to be
associated with Ditty. You know, I certainly get that, and
I think sort of it speaks to the intra group
diversity among some of these lifestyles, some of these social movements,
whatever you want to call them, that there are differences
among those folks.
Speaker 11 (26:43):
They're not all like minded.
Speaker 10 (26:44):
They don't all do the same things and engage in
the same types of conduct, And I think that's really
the thrust forgive me of the arguments for these swingers
is differentiating themselves from did.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Tease to tales? From t tales on YouTube, Tisa way
in when I tell you.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
Diddy is radioactive and good luck to Mark agnofilial trying
to turn him into a church boy. The Swingers of
America open have come out and multiple swinger associations I
know who knew, right, the multiple swinger organizations have come.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
Forward and said, how dare you associate our good name
with that pons gum Sean Diddy Colms. Now, why is
this so important? Okay?
Speaker 3 (27:30):
I think it underlines the fact of the jury should
be a shand of themselves.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Yes, it's true.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Shawn Combs claims a victory in court with a split
verdict acquitted on three counts, convicted on only two. But
as of tonight, Shawn Combe is risking losing a four
hundred million dollar empire despite those three acquittals, civil suits,
legal fees surging.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
Listen, one of the best thing that's happening out of
this is even in his quote unquote victory, Diddy is
set to go broke. Listen, he has a four hundred
million dollar kingdom. However, only I think fifty million of
that was actually liquid, because that's what he offered the bellsman.
Now here's the thing that I find so interesting. These
civil cases are about to run through Ditty's pockets. Why
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is that because even though Diddy's supporters are like, he's free,
he's free.
Speaker 4 (28:21):
He got convicted of two federal sex acts.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
If he used any of Comb's Global, bad Boy Worldwide
or whatever his company's names are, that opens the door
for federal forfeiture.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
Now, spiler alert.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
I sat through trial, through weeks of accountants warning us
to death, but also painting a picture of where the
money came from to pay for these women and to pay.
Speaker 8 (28:47):
For the escorts.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Spoiler alert, they came from Ditty's company. Now what does
that mean?
Speaker 15 (28:53):
Two things.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Federal forfeiture will pull everything away. But I've heard rumblings
that there is going to be a mad death from
some of the escorts, and they said Diddy has used
hundreds of escorts during the years.
Speaker 4 (29:05):
And also maybe even from Jane.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Let's not forget that the man at convictions make it
so much easier for civil.
Speaker 4 (29:13):
Claims to be proven.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
Let's also not forget what Judge Aaron said, Diddy, you
told s yourself in the courtroom that you were violent,
that you did commit those acts, that you are the devil.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
You're just saying that it's not a crime.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Well, maybe it's not a crime, but guess what it
looks like it might actually be something civil.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
Ditty is about to go bankrupt.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
But again, I think this leads credibility to the fact
that people are saying that Diddy is restructuring.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
He nobody.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
He no longer wants to be the face Shawn John
that's going to be shifted to his daughters and his
cute daughter's hoodie line and clothing line. His sons are
going to be the ones that get the producing credits
and everything that Bad Boy Entertainment had, And he might
even put an alcohol brand under one of his kids
to again, did he seeks to.
Speaker 4 (30:02):
Re allocate assets.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
But I don't think this reallocation is going to happen
fast enough to stem this title weight of civil lawsuits
that are going to come forward in.
Speaker 4 (30:14):
The last within the statue limitations.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
Why because Diddy has already admitted to the worst of
the crimes. Anyway, we are waiting and we hope justice
has served.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
And in the last days another courtroom victory for Shawn Combs.
One of the many, many civil complaints filed against him
has been dismissed by a judge. A lawsuit filed against
Shawn Combs by a pro Lamb Pros has been dismissed,
in part because of the statute of limitations that judge
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ruling too much time has passed. The attorney in the case,
Tyrone Blackburn, says he intends to depose Shawn Combs within
sixty days. Joining us now Lauren Colin from Pop Crime
TV on YouTube, Lauren Colin Way.
Speaker 7 (31:07):
In the civil suits, they seem to keep on coming.
Speaker 6 (31:11):
I mean some have been dismissed.
Speaker 7 (31:14):
I know a judge just dismissed a lawsuit against Sean
Colmes by April Lamb Price, partly because of a statute
of limitations.
Speaker 6 (31:24):
However, I know that her attorney.
Speaker 7 (31:27):
Tyrone Blackburn, says that he intends to depose mister Colmes
within sixty days. But at this point I think a
lot of these civil attorneys, not so much Doug Wigder,
but I would say Tyrone Blackburn, Tony Busby, they are
slowly but surely losing some credibility in the eye of
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public opinion based on what certain witnesses said actually on
the stand in Shawn Colmes's criminal trial about their civil lawsuits.
Tyrone Blackburn, he was representing Brianna Bongolan, who had stated
that Sean Holmes allegedly dangled her over a balcony, and
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she admitted on the stand that mister Blackburn added a
section about her possibly being sexually assaulted, and she said,
you know, that didn't really happen.
Speaker 6 (32:23):
It was exaggerated. His hands kind of went.
Speaker 7 (32:26):
Up when he lifted me up, but it wasn't necessarily
an assault, a sexual assault. And also Tyron Blackburn just
made the news for being arrested for backing over a
process server.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Eric Fadus Way in, there's a chance, Tonancy that these
verdicts could cause a momentum.
Speaker 11 (32:45):
Shift in favor of Diddy with.
Speaker 10 (32:47):
Respect to the pending civil cases that are still going on.
Speaker 11 (32:51):
You know, those folks might think to themselves, gossh.
Speaker 10 (32:54):
It's kind of harder to prove in court some allegation
that I'm bringing. On top of that that there has
been public condemnation against Cassie, against Jane.
Speaker 11 (33:06):
There is even the specter of retaliation.
Speaker 10 (33:09):
All of those factors could cause these plaintiffs to be
disincentivized to proceed with their cases. Perhaps it could even
have an effect on the jurists, the judges who are
making decisions and ultimately the jurors who may decide the
ultimate fate on the civil side. Are they going to
be influenced by what happened and sort of the media
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saturation around it.
Speaker 11 (33:33):
Certainly they've heard of how these verdicts came down.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Crime stories with Nancy Grace.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
Shee shaw Way in Listen, these civil suits that are
coming from Diddy is going to be no joke.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
Which has come to the forefront is April Lampert.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
She is being represented by Tyrone Blackburn, Esquire. Now listen,
Blackburn seems to know what he is doing. Okay, he
says he's playing their deposed Ditty within sixty days. Why
is that so significant because a lot of things that
April alleged in her complaint again Ditty's team has admitted
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in court. But more importantly, okay, it signals that these lawyers,
led by Blackburn are not afraid of Ditty.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
They're willing to take on the dream Team.
Speaker 8 (34:31):
And even though you can't find a conviction.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
Criminally civilly, where you only need what fifty one percent
right more likely than not that it happened. They have
a wave of evidence that no reasonable jury.
Speaker 4 (34:46):
Could deny or should deny.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Also, people are saying that they are keeping idea on
the way the prosecutions team the case went down, what
they could have done better, what they would have changed,
and they are coming well, both got blazing pow.
Speaker 15 (35:02):
Now Didny's team.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
Is trying to get a rush on this and created
a media is storm because they love to deny, delay
and mislead by saying, oh, it's already been dismissed.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
However it has not. A lot of legal experts are
pointing out.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
Maybe it has been dismissed against Ditty's parent companies, but
when it comes to Ditty's personal liability and Ditty's four
hundred million fortune that he personally owns, oh baby, the
suit is very much active and.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Very much going forward.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
We are going to pay attention to that April Lampard
case and keep you updated as it goes along. But
I am hoping that the prosecution crawled so that these
civil attorneys led by Tyrone Blackburn Escorier can run straight to.
Speaker 4 (35:50):
The bank and empty out all of Ditty's accounts.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
No bond for Sean comes. Diddy will sit behind bars
and wait for sentencing. But how did we get here?
Speaker 11 (36:02):
Breaking news tonight?
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Did he win?
Speaker 15 (36:05):
What can I do this anymore?
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Did Sean Puffy Combs aka Love aka Diddy.
Speaker 15 (36:20):
And on and on?
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Did he actually order others demanding that they quote dig
up dirt on alleged victims? Not only that, we are
getting reports that Seawan Comb's aka Diddy would let's just say,
ask other inmates to use their phone cards, their phones,
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their phone time to do three ways patch him into
people trying to dig up dirt on victims, possibly contacting
alleged victims himself, what with bribes or threats.
Speaker 15 (36:59):
Don't know that yet, but I will find out. Listen
to this.
Speaker 16 (37:04):
Shawn Combs isn't just monitoring social media from behind bars.
The Fed say Combs has been using other MDC inmates
phone access codes to make surreptitious calls. Combs then uses
his sons to loop in a third party or directly
contacts unauthorized individuals. While the contents of the calls have
been redacted in court, documents. Prosecutors say the conversations clearly
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outline Comb's intent to silence witnesses and more.
Speaker 17 (37:31):
As part of the interagency contraband sweep at the MDC,
agents confiscate nineteen pages of notes from Shawn Combs's belongings
and turn them over to federal prosecutors. Among those notes
are inspirational quotes, reminders about family and financial matters that
need to be discussed, and a to do list. That
list includes a need to instruct a family member to
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quote find dirt on two potential victims and quote find
everything on another victim.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Isn't it true? The correctional facility has a special place
for lawyers to meet with their clients.
Speaker 12 (38:07):
Yes, inmates meet with their lawyers inside the visiting room.
In the various corners they have attorney client rooms. There's
typically two to three in each visiting room in any
federal prison. Those visits are typically scheduled ahead of time
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through the inmates Counselor, which is a part of the
Inmates Unit team, and they normally happen during the normal
visiting hours. In NBC Brooklyn, the visiting hours between five
am and seven pm money through Friday, and nine am
and four pm on weekends and holidays.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
Doctor Henry, could you describe the private room where inmates
are allowed to speak to their lawyers at lengths?
Speaker 12 (38:54):
Typically the rooms will have maybe two set up kind
of like an interview style where there's like a table
one side the inmate would sit on and there's usually
no more than three chairs on the other side. In
the case you know, you have two counselor maybe a
paralegal there to take notes with that with the particular
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that particular client. The rooms are very small, they're they're glass,
so the staff that's having oversight of that particular visit,
they can't hear what's going on in the room, but
they can sit at a vantage point where they can
see where, you know, what's going on in that room
in case you know, emergency.
Speaker 15 (39:35):
And doctre hendricks.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
How long the inmates get to meet with their lawyers
hours and hours in private they have access to a
law library. Isn't it true that Shawn Comes is getting
additional time to meet with US lawyers.
Speaker 18 (39:49):
Throughout my careers.
Speaker 12 (39:50):
Typically, you know, no more than a couple of hours,
depending on what this particular request is for that particular inmate.
Speaker 18 (39:57):
Now we're talking about the Sean Combs case.
Speaker 12 (40:00):
As we know, he's at the courthouse first thing in
the morning, and court starts around nine nine thirty and
it's ending about four pm. So if visiting ends at
seven pm with them having to undress him out, put
him in a vehicle, take him back to the jail,
get them fed, you know you're talking about, and then
being in process back into the jail. We're talking about
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five fifteen, five point thirty, which would only give them
an hour and a half to prep with him to go.
Speaker 18 (40:30):
Over a strategy for the next day.
Speaker 12 (40:32):
So if they're asking for additional time, I would I
could see at the wards discretion, especially as a high
profile as this case is in all the public interests,
whether it's here in America or even internationally, I don't
see any concerns with them giving them another two hours,
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two to three hours to prep with their client for
the next I mean, this trial is tentatively scheduled to end.
Speaker 18 (41:03):
The goal is to end.
Speaker 12 (41:04):
It by the end of the month or before the
fourth of July weekend, So we're talking about four weeks.
You know, maybe five to ten hour additional hours during
the week and maybe two to three hours on the weekend,
depending on what else is going on.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
Doctor Hendrix, isn't it true that the MDC is open
on the weekends and the lawyers could go meet with
comes on the weekends.
Speaker 18 (41:30):
Yes, and again it is open.
Speaker 12 (41:33):
Visiting hours are from nine am to four pm weekends
and holidays, and it's visiting is open until seven pm
on a normal weekday, so they have, you know, depending
on how long it takes the marshals to get him
back to the jail, it's not going to take him
very long to be in processed to the East Building
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where he's currently being housed, so they'll probably have about
an hour and a half to meet with him, and
depending on which attorneys he's gonna meet with, what their
strategy is going to be, it's not an unusual request
for them for him to meet with his attorneys for
a couple more hours. I mean, there's a nine between
the nine and ten o'clock count each day in the facility,
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and they can put him on an out count in
the visiting room while he's down there visiting. Because again,
this trial is only gonna last a few more weeks,
and the last thing to Bureau Prisons and more specifically
MDC Brooklyn does not want to do is be a
part of any hindrance to him having effective council and
giving grounds for them to you on appeal to say, hey,
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you know, he didn't get effective council because the institution
didn't allow him to visit with his attorneys. And then
they're gonna look at historical data. They're gonna look at
how big you know, how many inmates were housed at
that facility in the past versus what they have now
and making a sound correctional judgment decision.
Speaker 18 (43:00):
It just doesn't make sense.
Speaker 12 (43:01):
To not try as much as possible to accommodate this request.
Speaker 2 (43:06):
Joining me right now, Angelica Martinez Servigna, joining us in.
Speaker 15 (43:11):
Front of the jail.
Speaker 2 (43:12):
Tell me about Seawan Combs's daily schedule behind jail, behind bars,
and what you know about the jail.
Speaker 15 (43:20):
Who are other famous celebs that have been in that
very jail.
Speaker 19 (43:24):
Yes, Nancy, we are standing right behind me is where
Sean Tuffy Combs is currently being held in Brooklyn right now.
There are before saying that he's being held in the
special housing unit, which is separate from the general prison
population and is usually used for inmates that might need
additional protection. Julane, Maxwell or Kelly when they were here
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in this prison, they were also held in the special
housing unit. And we have a former warden, Cameron Lindsay,
who is actually on record as saying that did he
poses as a very attractive target for inmates and the
MDC saying, quote, to deliver a hit on him would
be considered a bad of honor end quote.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
He's getting treated with kid gloves when his lawyer has
come out and said he's not suicidal. So he's basically
in the medical unit getting special treatment. But now did
he hungry?
Speaker 15 (44:23):
Apparently he's missing his private chef. I hate when that happens.
Speaker 2 (44:28):
When you can't take your private chef, your celebrity chef
with you behind bars at the Metro Detention Center, that's
gotta hurt.
Speaker 20 (44:38):
In addition to snacks and hygiene items, did he has
the option to purchase full meals from the MDC commissary.
His options include stuffed chicken with rice, eggplant, parmesan bone
in chicken, a rib steak, or beef Chillen the estimated billionaire,
we'll have to watch his one hundred and sixty dollars
spending limit per trip.
Speaker 15 (44:56):
What did I just hear a ribbi?
Speaker 2 (44:59):
Let me check that a ribi beef stew, egg palm
chicken with rice?
Speaker 1 (45:06):
What?
Speaker 3 (45:07):
Who?
Speaker 15 (45:07):
Well?
Speaker 2 (45:07):
Let me see grits, oatmeal, pancakes, syrup, French toast.
Speaker 15 (45:11):
I'd like some French toast. What's for lunch?
Speaker 2 (45:14):
Chicken wrap, hamburgers, baked chicken, tacos.
Speaker 15 (45:19):
I would love a taco dinner, roast beef. I'd like
that salisbury steak fahdas what? Okay? Can we just get
real for just one moment?
Speaker 2 (45:29):
Chris mcdonnad joining me, Director Cole Case Foundation, former homicide detective,
and former vice detective.
Speaker 15 (45:35):
He is not suicidal, Chris.
Speaker 2 (45:37):
His own lawyer has stated that, So why is he
getting kid glove treatment?
Speaker 15 (45:43):
Chris mcdona.
Speaker 14 (45:44):
That is an absolutely great question, Nancy, Because in these units,
they're special housing units, right, the shoe unit. The whole
purpose of that is to house somebody in there because
of one they're a threat. Assessment comes up that this
guy is a high threat and or a high target threat,
meaning somebody else wants to take this person out.
Speaker 15 (46:07):
Nancy Grace signing off, good by friend,