May 8, 2025 • 42 mins
Sean “Diddy” Combs' sex-trafficking trial kicks off with jury selection.
This week, Combs listened intently as potential jurors answered questions after completing their written questionnaires. During the proceedings, Combs asked the judge for a bathroom break. When he returned, he apologized to Judge Subramanian, saying, “I’m sorry, Your Honor, I’m a little nervous today.”
Final jury selection continues Friday. Several potential jurors have been dismissed. One called the Cassie Ventura beating video “damning evidence.” Another said he believes the rap mogul can “buy his way out of jail.” Yet another attended Sean Combs’ high school. One person, a producer for HBO who did not work on the Diddy documentary, admitted to hearing “water cooler” talk about it.
For more on the issues ahead, stay tuned for Crime Stories with Nancy Grace
Joining Nancy Grace today :
- Eric Faddis - Partner at Varner Faddis Elite Legal, Former Felony Prosecutor and Current Criminal Defense and Civil Litigation Attorney; Instagram: @e_fad @varnerfaddis; TikTok: @varnerfaddis
- Dr. Bethany Marshall - Psychoanalyst, Author: "Deal Breaker," and featured in hit show "Paris in Love" on Peacock; Instagram & TikTok: drbethanymarshall, X: @DrBethanyLive
- Robert Crispin - Private Investigator at “Crispin Special Investigations," Former Federal Task Force Officer for the United States Department of Justice [DEA and Miami Field Division], Former Homicide and Crimes Against Children Investigator; Facebook: Crispin Special Investigations Inc.
- Dr. DeWayne Hendrix - Former Associate Warden at the MDC in Brooklyn, Former Senior Warden with the US Department of Justice, Federal Bureau of Prisons, Founder and President of A New Daylight Foundation, Author: "Who Are You? See it Say it and Seize it;" @anewdaylight (IG) @drdewaynehendrix (LinkedIn) @anewdaylight (X)
- Lynn Shaw - Founder and Executive Director of Lynn's Warriors, Host of Lynn's Warriors on YouTube; X: @lynns_warriors/ YouTube: @LynnsWarriors
- Lauren Conlin - Podcaster/Reporter/Host- Co-Host of Primetime Crime on YouTube; X- @Conlin_Lauren, Instagram- @LaurenEmilyConlin, YouTube: @PopCrimeTV
- Sydney Sumner - CrimeOnline Investigative Reporter
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, does did he need a diaper?
Shawncomb's begging for an emergency bathroom break in court? And
tonight our authorities finally believing a man caught on tape
years ago claiming to be Shawn Combe's sex slave. We
(00:23):
have the tape, plus Austin Powers, Michael Jordan HBO and
a six pack. What does any of that have to
do with Shawncombe's multi count federal indictment? This as a
victim vanishes, I'm Nancy Grece, this is Crime Stories. Thank
(00:43):
you for being with us?
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Did he on trial?
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Sex trafficking, racketeering and the threat of life behind bars?
Jury selection wraps this week in one of the biggest
celebrity cases of the decade.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Shawnclme's demanding an emergency bathroom break in court to the judge.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
Listen Sean Diddy.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Comb's sex trafficking trial kicks off with jury selection. Combs
listens intently as potential jurors are questioned after filling out
their written questionnaire. Mogul nods and shakes his head as
jurors talk about their experiences with drug addiction, sexual assault,
and physical violence after returning from a requested bathroom break.
Combs apologizes to Judge Subermanian. I'm sorry, your honor, I'm
(01:25):
a little nervous today.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
Straight out to you.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Veteran trial lawyer Eric Fattus joining us from Varner Fattest
elite legal former felony prosecutor, Eric, thank you for being
with us. Do you think Diddy's reman just clenched a
little bit when he had to ask her that emergency
bathroom break? Was it all just too much for him
when he finally came into courtroom having to answer up
(01:50):
to all the claims made against him. I've never had
a defendant actually leave mid jury selection for an emergency
bathroom break.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
Well, I mean, when I get really nervous, sometimes I
have to go to It's it's a common thing in
the court room. They're going to be there for hours
upon hours, and it is a tense situation.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
You know.
Speaker 5 (02:09):
Sometimes it's the calling of nature. Sometimes it's to get
a break, to get a breather from what's going on.
It's hard to say exactly did he had to do that,
but not uncommon under these circumstances he is facing, you know,
his fate, his future is on the line here.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Okay, you know, I'm sure you're not going to tell
me the truth. Let's go out to Robert Crispin joining
me Private Eye with Crispin Special Investigations, but former Federal
Task Force for the US Department of Justice DEA Miami
Field Division. It goes on and on. Former homicide investigator Crispin,
come on, hey too, want to look at that jury
(02:47):
panel and said I got to go, and I got
to go right now.
Speaker 6 (02:50):
Yeah, Nancy, the rubber has hit the road, and Diddy
is starting to learn that his faith is about to
be tied up in those jurors. It's a completely different
atmosphere inside a federal courtroom. It's not your jail cell.
It's not the laxed atmosphere sitting and laughing and talking
about your case with your lawyers. It's not reading your
case in the newspaper. It's the real deal and it's
(03:14):
no bs. It's going down.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
This judge is very no nonsense. Joining me outside the courthouse.
Investigative reporter Lauren Colin, co host Primetime Crime on YouTube. Lauren,
thank you for being with us. Tell me about where
we are in jury selection, how it's playing out in
the courtroom.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Tell me about the jury panel, let's.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Start with that.
Speaker 7 (03:35):
Yes, Nancy, Well, normally, as you know, jury selection can
be kind of boring, but not for Sean Colmes. It's
turning out to be very colorful, colorful.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Excuse me.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Now, on May seventh.
Speaker 7 (03:47):
They were able to get their forty five full of jurors,
and they will have their strikes on Friday, May ninth,
where the defense will get ten strikes and the prosecution
will get their six strikes and then they'll narrow jurors
down to twelve and six alternates.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
Now, as far as jurors go.
Speaker 7 (04:04):
Nancy, it's been so intriguing. We have, insofar a graphic designer,
a former attorney who interned at the Brooklyn DIA's office
in the domestic violence unit. We also have a un
employee who actually works with counter terrorism, and somehow they
made it through and it actually seemed like these people
(04:26):
want to be here in a way, the way they're
downplaying certain things. Now, as far as certain potential jurors
who are out, we have an HBO employee who didn't
work directly on the fall of Ditty, but the defense
wasn't taking any chances. We have someone who said wealthy
people can get away with more. They can buy their
way out.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
Of the law.
Speaker 7 (04:44):
And we also have a woman who claimed that she
fainted when she heard the term BJ.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
When she heard the term BJ, she feigned, Okay, yeah,
she's got to go. Not only that, there was one
guy doom scrolling who was just like looking through his phone,
and at least one of those scrolling adventures he took
popped up a Diddy article. He's out. We had one
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guy that said he couldn't go a full day without
smoking weed, he's gone. We had one person that was
so tired and exhausted, stating he stayed up all night
binging on Star Wars. He's gone. You don't want anybody
falling asleep. Why don't you want somebody falling asleep? Because
(05:34):
that is grounds for a miss trial. If one juror
is not paying attention and missus testimony, it's over and correction.
I have never found for a die or a jury
selection to be boring ever. In fact, that's always been
one of my favorite parts of the trial. So what
more do we know about jury selection?
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Listen, one man is dismissed because he attended Shancombs High.
Speaker 8 (05:57):
School, albe At thirty years later, another as a producer
for HBO who did not work on their Didty documentary,
but admits to several water cooler talks with coworkers who did.
A marketing director at publisher Simon and Schuster is also
dismissed due to her work on singer L. B. Schuer's
upcoming memoir. A fourth issue that brings last for many
(06:18):
in the courtroom is a potential jurors employment at the MDC.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
That HBO employee may not have worked directly on the
HBO documentary The Fall of Ditty, but I imagine they
know what was in the outtakes, what was left on
the editing floor, all the background. The HBO employee admits
to water cooler discussions of the documentary and of Ditty.
(06:45):
Speaking of the HBO documentary that has the defense shaking
in its boose, listen his knots on her head.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
It was horrific, he says. Sometimes you just got that
these holes know who the boss is. I've seen them
both holding on, fighting for my life. He said, I'm
puffed aady, I'll eat your face off.
Speaker 9 (07:04):
I always believe that I was the only victim.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Wow, no wonder the defense doesn't want that HBO employee.
That's my our friends, I have an investigation discovery. Hey
straight out to Lynn Shaw joining me, founder director Lynn's Warriors,
committed to ending human trafficking and sexploitation of women and girls.
Did you hear this, okay quote from Sean Combs.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
He says, sometimes you just got.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
To let these hoes know who the boss is.
Speaker 10 (07:34):
Yeah, well, you know what, Sometimes a dirty Diddy. I
wish Nancy I could get in that courtroom and just
stare him down. I wish we could fill the courtroom
with all of his alleged victims and women and also
men here in New York, My fellow New Yorkers, I
have full confidence in them to stare him down. Remember
numbers power. We have to stare him down. This is
(07:56):
kind of the rallying cry I'm hearing here on the
streets of New York with people I know the entertainment
not only music business, overall entertainment business, including Broadway and television.
Everybody's waiting on this one. He's talking like this, he's
making apologies about Cassie. Dirty Diddy is going down. Nobody's
going to fall for his act anymore.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Sometimes you just got to let these hoes know who
the boss is. Well, she was certainly on the other
foot now in that courtroom, and there's more no wonder
they want that HBO employee off the jury.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
I am absolutely nervous sharing what I've seen.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
I can no longer just remain silent.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
This is where I'm.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Supposed to be. Much of what we're hearing is about
the Cassie Ventira tape, and there's a lot of speculation
as to if and how that's going to come into evidence.
That was where our friends had investigation discovery. Right now,
jury selection going down, and the jury will be complete
at any minute. We believe the evidence will begin pouring
(09:02):
from the witness stand now. I don't think it's going
to be that easy, because it never is. Straight out
to Sidney Sumner joining US Crime Online dot Com Crime
Stories investigative reporter, Sidney, thank you for being with us.
There have been many people already thrown off the jury. Now,
I'm not talking about the Pettit jury a derivation of
(09:22):
petite or small. The Pettit jury is the jury of
twelve plus alternates, and ps I don't think six alternates
have a nut are enough in high profile cases, and
really any case I usually get between four, six to
eight alternates. I mean, look what happened is Scott Peterson.
For Pete's sake, I think they ended up using nearly
every alternate they had. That said, we're trying to get
(09:45):
a petit jury out of a big panel. Interesting and
this was true when I prosecuted an inner city Atlanta
Sidney Sumner. The defense has more strikes than the state.
The defense has ten strikes, which is crucial when you're
narrowing down a panel of forty five to sixty people
(10:05):
to just twelve. The defense has ten strikes, ten choices,
and they don't have to explain it why they throw
somebody off the jury. The state has about half that many,
at six strikes Sidney Sumner.
Speaker 11 (10:21):
That's correct in this case, Nancy as well. The Feds
will only get to strike six while the defense gets ten.
That still leads us with twenty nine potential jurors out
of those forty five removing those sixteen. So from there
it'll be interesting to see who is removed after that.
But we know that a lot of these jurors are
(10:43):
having problems with the Cassie video. Everybody has seen it,
and everybody has formed an opinion on it. This jury
selection is very interesting because it's unlikely that anyone in
that courtroom doesn't at least have an idea of who
Diddy is, whether or not they're familiar with his charges.
So this has become a huge hurdle for everyone in
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the courtroom to jump over.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
You know, you're so right.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
The Cassie video Cassie Ventura, who was testifying under her
own name. There are other alleged victims testifying under pseudonyms,
like Jane Doe, and we think tonight that one of
those victims has disappeared. The state stating in court that
they have not been able to reach the victim's lawyer.
Now it's one thing not to be able to find
(11:30):
the witness, but you can't find the lawyer. The lawyer
has gone deafcom for as well. That's not good for
the state. But I want to go forward with jury
selection now this as an alleged sex slave emerges. And remember,
the state and the defense can amend or add to
(11:52):
their witness list if there are newly discovered witnesses. Will
Jonathan Odie be a corroborating witness listen?
Speaker 12 (12:02):
I had sex with Cassie and Sean basically he would
he would masturbate and tell him what to do with Cassie.
I had like fifteen encounters.
Speaker 13 (12:11):
And I heard lots of business because what they would
do is Sean talks a lot on the on the
phone and on the TV was feeding stuff and I'll
be in there. I was like a sex sleeve.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Okay, yeah, gross, that is Jonathan Odie Diddy's sex slave.
And this video was years ago when he was arrested
on some other count.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
There he is.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
And again, who do you think is going to be
a witness? Nuns and priests and vergence know somebody like
Jonathan Odie? Who else is hanging around? Sean comes now,
I want to play what you just heard one more time. Listen.
Speaker 13 (12:48):
I had sex.
Speaker 12 (12:49):
With Cassie and Sean basically he would he would masturbate
and tell her what to do with Cassie. I had
like fifteen encounters and I heard lots.
Speaker 13 (12:58):
Of business because what they would do is Sean talks
a lot on the on the phone and on the
TV with feeding up and I'll be in there.
Speaker 5 (13:06):
I was like a SI.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
Sleep Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
For now and it'sycho analyst doctor Bethany Marshall joining us
out of la, author of deal Breakers. You can see
her now on peacock at doctor Bethany Marshall dot com.
Doctor Bethany, let's break this down. When you were taking English,
did the teacher ever separate the sentence on the blackboard
and you know, diagram the sentence. Here's the verb, Here
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is the adverb, here is the adjective, here's the subject.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
Blah blah blah, okay.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
I had sex with Cassie and Sean. Basically, hey, Sean
would masturbate and tell me what to do with Cassie.
No wonder she's running down the hall trying to get away.
I have like fifteen encounters. I heard a lot of
business because Sean would talk on the phone with it
on the TV with speakers while I was being quote
(14:10):
like a sex slave.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
Help me out, doctor Bethany.
Speaker 9 (14:13):
You know, it reminds me of a clinical case of
a colleague where there was this sociopath sex offender who
would put his wife in the bathroom, defecate on her,
tell her to stay lying on the floor while he
went out and dated other women. And that clinical case
is important because It takes us inside the mind of
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an alleged offender, and in this case P Diddy is
doing business, puffing himself up, putting himself in a position
of power while he debases Cassie. Those are very, very
common psychodynamics in a case like this. You know, Nancy,
that explosive need to go.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
To the bathroom.
Speaker 9 (14:54):
That tells me that he went into fight or flight,
meaning he had a sudden need to evacuate his bowels.
That means he was scared. I wondered, is this the
first time in his life? P Diddy is actually scared.
We juxtaposed that to having this sex slave. You know,
these defendants tend to they thrive when they're in positions
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of power. They fall apart when they have to answer
for their offenses. Remember Michael Jackson where he got the
spider bit and he came to court with his slippers
and his pajama pajamas. He really fell apart under pressure.
Speaker 12 (15:33):
I had settlement with Sean Okay, and he belongs to
that agenda. That's why he's so famous in animal contracts.
Speaker 13 (15:40):
This season twoes my settlement put me in a box.
Speaker 12 (15:44):
Based on I couldn't talk gozalas Will be sued, so
I let it be. But they've been following me and
they've had small charcas, had the FBI on me. That said,
other interpret other agencies looking at me fine on the
og because they want to send me up as an
extortioness like if O story sharp on one now.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
At the time when Odie was saying all of this
back in twenty eighteen on tape, everyone discounted it Shawn
Combs sex slave, making Odie participate in for sex acts
with Cassie Ventura.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
Somehow Mark Garraghos gets in the mix.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
You hear Odi stating very plainly that he had a
quote settlement with Sean Combs that if he talked about
what happened with Cassie and comes, he would be sued.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
It's called an.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
NDA non disclosure agreement, and that Mark Geragos was on
to him. Now suddenly it's all fitting together. Sidney Sumner
explain why this suddenly may corroborate what the current state's
witnesses are saying.
Speaker 11 (16:57):
So, Nancy, we've known about John than Odie's claims since
the beginning of this case. Since all of this information
about Diddy's sexual deviance and raping behavior came to the
public eye with Caffy's lawsuit. But yes, this happened back
in twenty eighteen, and this police interrogation is full of
(17:20):
odd conspiracy theories. The Illuminati gets brought up several times,
so it didn't really feel like Odie's claims were very credible.
But now we have a photo of that NBA that
he claims that he signed, so we now have proof
that that document that he references in that interrogation does
(17:40):
in fact exist. So it seems like Odie had some
kind of secret about Combs that he thought was so
important that he paid this former Horn star five million
dollars for his silence.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
You know, City Center.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Every time I ask you a question, it's like opening
out one of those mystery boxes or a grab bag.
I get so much more than I expected. Did you
just say, Odie, Odie, the guy we were just watching
in the hospital gown talking about being a sex life,
got a five million dollar settlement from yeah, him, from
Combs and as a matter of fact, putting down eight
hundred thousand dollars on a home.
Speaker 11 (18:16):
Yes, so that information is coming from Odie's ex wife.
So she claimed that he met Combs at a party
at his Miami Star Island home, and they struck some
sort of relationship which actually strained their marriage and led
to their divorce. Now immediately herfter that divorce, Odie, who
(18:39):
had claimed that his net worth was in the negatives
at the time of their divorce, suddenly purchases a ton
of property eight hundred thousand dollars worth and it wasn't mortgaged.
It was all in cash. So she has no idea
where he came up with that money. And believe maybe
he's telling the truth. Maybe he did at five million
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dollars from Sean Coms.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
And of course Mark Giragos is an incredible lawyer, about
as usual. He's into it up to here, he's up
to his Let me just say ears and alligators, because
you see Odie is talking about Giragos way back when
in twenty eighteen, and now Giaghos is in the crosshairs
(19:23):
of the judge.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Listen prosecutor's point to one of Garogos's comments, in particular
calling their team a six pack of white women. Judge
Supermanian was shocked by the quip, calling it outrageous. Garrogos's
daughter Tenny pushback, saying her father merely made an observation
considering her client feels targeted for his race. The judge
said the comments would not be tolerated in any court
(19:47):
from any lawyer all across the nation.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Subermanian is not putting up with that technical legal term.
B s straight out to Lauren Collin joining us at
the courthouse. What did Geragos do now?
Speaker 7 (20:00):
Well, Nancy Georgos on his podcast stated that the prosecution
was a six pack of white women. Now that's definitely
a prejudicial statement. The prosecution submitted this letter to the judge,
as you said, and Geragos is technically not an advisor
to the defense. He does represent Diddy's mother from what
I understand, but he knows better than this, and as
(20:23):
you said, he's an amazing lawyer, so he needs to
step back a bit.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Another issue though, right there, Eric Fattis, is Geragos is
claiming that he's not on the legal team officially. Okay,
See the judge Subramanian doesn't like that, And I'll tell
you why. Neither's a state it's not. I guess Gearaghos
is just that if you're not on officially on the
defense team, you are not subject to the orders of
(20:49):
the directors of the judge. Because you're not on the
defense team, you can say and do anything you want to.
Even with Harvey Levin on TMZ on that podcast, I
was just showing you the Two Angry Men podcasts. He
can say whatever he wants to because he's not on
the team.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
That's why. You know what it's like being a little pregnant.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
That's not possible, right, So is he on the team
or is he not on the team. That's the issue
with Garygos right now?
Speaker 5 (21:16):
Yeah, Nancy, And you know, on top of that, Garrigos
has a First Amendment right. He can say what he wants.
And this isn't the first time an alleged racial bias
has been brought up by the defense. They talked about
did he being prosecuted under what's called the Man Act,
which infamously was used to prosecute black boxer Jack Johnson
in nineteen thirteen for having romantic relations with a white woman.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
And so fast, as fast as you're digging really deep,
if you're going back to a case in nineteen thirteen,
can I just drag you up to twenty twenty five
and address what's happening in court right now?
Speaker 5 (21:49):
I hear you, and my understanding is that Gargos has
a relative or a daughter who might be associated with
the case who's a lawyer. But yeah, so Garrigos is
kind of like is he or isn't he in terms
of being involved in the case, And if he's not
technically an attorney of record, then who cares what the
judge says? He can kind of say what he wants.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Sean Diddy. Combe's defense lawyers insist he isn't a rapist
but a swinger. Attorney Mark Agnefilo tells the court Comb
simply engaged in a swinger lifestyle, seeing nothing wrong with
his behavior.
Speaker 14 (22:20):
As potential jurors are questioned about their ability to maintain impartiality,
an obstacle quickly rears its head the video of Comb's
attacking Cassie. Numerous potential jurors have seen the video and
formed opinions on it. Of those who have watched it,
only a few were able to say they did not
think it would affect their impartiality.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
While some who have seen the Cassie video are allowed
to stay, several jurors are dismissed for the opinions they
formed from it. One juror called the video damning evidence,
while another said it would be hard to get new
evidence against the video. Another juror was dismissed for his
belief the rap mogul could quote by his way out
of jail.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
Yeah, a lot of people.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
I mean, if you watch CNN or any major news
outlet which has followed up with CNN's video, you've seen
the Cassie video. What's so disturbing.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
Let's take a look.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
Here comes Cassie and this from our friends at CNN,
trying to get away according to reports, from a freakoff.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
Uh, oh, not so fast, Cassie.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Now, according to coms, this is all part of his
quote voluntary swow swinger lifestyle. Ooh, stomping off with all
Cassie stuff. Oh, she will have to go back to
the freak off. Oh it's not over yet. Here he's
having a little fit. Oh there goes a two thousand
dollars base. This is the video we're talking about. Joining
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us at the courthouse, Lauren Colin. Some jurors are having
a hard time with the Cassie video, and some of
them have already been released from the jury pool.
Speaker 7 (23:49):
Explain, Yes, some jurors who saw the video and said
things like, well, he's guilty of domestic abuse in that video.
They were immediately dismissed. But Nancy, I want to point
out that the defence also had an expert testify a
few weeks back during the pre trial hearings that that
video was actually sped up.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Don't care because it can be unsped up for the jury.
But thank you for pointing out that argument by the
defensive that's all they've got. Okay, they're up, you know,
the create without a paddle. But that said, we've heard
a lot of conflicting statements to Sidney Sumner following up
on what Lauren.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
Collin said, She's absolutely right.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
By the way, again I called her being right again,
Sidney Sumner, there have been reports to states not introducing
the Cassie video. I find that hard to believe. I
think they're not introducing the CNN version, but that they
will introduce the video in full or portions thereof.
Speaker 11 (24:46):
What about it, Sidney, Yes, Nancy, we've heard conflicting reports
on this. So before we already knew that the prosecution
was not planning to introduce the CNN version of the video.
That is correct. They were going to play back a
ver that was recorded on an iPhone, So maybe maybe
this is how CNN obtained the recording in the first place.
(25:08):
So you're seeing it play back on a computer screen
and somebody is recording that video on an iPhone, so
it's very clear that it's not edited in any way,
shape or form. All of the potential jurors, many of
them at least, mentioned that they had seen the CNN
Kassie video, and prosecutors went, well, whoa, whoa, we're no
longer planning to introduce this as evidence at all. So
(25:31):
the opinions they forged based on that video shouldn't matter,
And of course the judge kind of wrote it down, like,
h I think it's still as important if they've formed
an opinion on who cones is exactly on this video.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Well, you know what, Sydney, You're right still up in
the air. Will the video come in? Will the video
not come in? But even if that video doesn't come in,
what about this videos.
Speaker 9 (25:57):
So difficult to refloat on the darkest times in your life.
Speaker 15 (26:03):
Sometimes you got to do that.
Speaker 12 (26:06):
I was, I mean, I had rock bottom.
Speaker 5 (26:11):
But I made no excuses.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
My behavior on that video is inexcusable.
Speaker 12 (26:18):
I take full responsibility for my ashes in that video.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
I'm disgusted, right right right.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
That's from Diddy's official Instagram. So Robert Crispin, if he
didn't do it, if it was all consensual and Cassie's
fine with it, why is he apologizing for it.
Speaker 6 (26:34):
Because he knows he's guilty in his online I think
he knows it and.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
I like it because it's succinct or it was succinct,
but you kept talking to Eric Fattis.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
Here's another thing.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Even if the state to avoid an evidentiary problem on appeal,
don't make me go into the in depth explanation of that.
If they don't bring it in in their case, here's
a way to get it in. Because you know somebody's
going to take the stand and say that was all consensual,
Cassie loved being with Cobs. Then they'll bring it in
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to cross examine a witness or in a state's rebuttal case.
There's many ways to get this video in.
Speaker 5 (27:18):
Since could surely open the door to this video coming in,
and that would be a huge misstep. Another big misstep
is the prosecutor's office making a huge deal about this
video in the months leading up to the case, and
now if they're not going to show it, they have
effectively assassinated Toy's character and got into the minds of
these potential jerks.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
What what, Hey, the state didn't do that to him,
He did it to himself, Saint Lynn Shaw.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
That's exactly what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Comb's claiming the state has assassinated his character by CNN
releasing the video. Okay, a, the CNN did that, not
the state. Diddy did that to himself. But yet we're hearing, oh,
the state, the powerful, evil state, they did this to Diddy.
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He asked, He's the one on the video, not the prosecutor,
running down.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
The hall on a towel.
Speaker 10 (28:12):
This video of Cassie running away in her bare feet. Everybody,
do you notice she has no shoes on. If you
look at that video, so many women report to me
and girls that's how they escape. They don't put shoes on.
They run away barefoot down New York streets. I've heard
highways barefoot. This is in no way you know this Diddy,
this dirty Diddy. He flips the story. What you know what,
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he's blaming everybody else. We have seen this for months now.
He is guilty, and I maintain this video. Everybody's heard
about it. If you haven't seen it, everybody knows about it.
It's very here in New York, all over the place.
So you know what that is his downfall? Kicking a
woman repeatedly dragging her. You know what he's going down.
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He I guarantee when we come back after all this,
you will see he crossed the wrong person. He's eating
a woman on a camera. I don't know where the
hotel was. I guess they got paid off. Why they
didn't report him to the police. But Dirty Diddy.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Is going down.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Jurors are also asked to review a nearly two hundred
person list of names that may come up in the trial.
Judge supermaney and likens the list to an appendix from
The Lord of the Rings. The judge asks the attorneys
to provide the list when jurors complete their questionnaire. As
they spend time listening to numerous jurors verbally explain why
they recognize famous names like Michael B. Jordan, Kanye West,
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Kid Cuddy, and even Mike Myers.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
What does Michael Myers aka Austin Powers have to do
with Sean Comes's multi count federal indictment. I think we
figured it out, you know, doctor Evil.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
I used to think you were crazy, I know, but
now I can see you nuts.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
I thank you from the ninety movie Austin Powers, the
International Man of Mystery. That's all we can piece together
so far. But then you've got Michael B. Jordan, Kanye
Oma Stars to Sydney Summer. I think we figured out
why Kid Cutty may be on the list where the
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jurors are asked, do you know any of these people?
And Kid Cutty, Kanye Mayers, Jordan and many others are
on the list. I think I know about Kid Cutty,
explain Sid.
Speaker 6 (30:29):
So.
Speaker 11 (30:30):
After one of many Passy and Comb's breakups, Cassy started
seeing Kid Cutty, and just a few months later, his
car mysteriously exploded outside of his house. Passy attributes that
to her ex boyfriend.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
So that tells me he may come in as a witness,
maybe to corroborate claims that this wasn't just forced sex
or who were sex acts at the free co offs,
but that violence became an integral, a critical part of
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the scenario. And we were hearing doctor Bethany Marshall describe
that guys I'm hearing in my ear. We are now
being joined by special guest, doctor Dwayne Hendricks. Doctor Hendrix,
former Associate warden at MDC in Brooklyn, where comes as
being held, former Senior warden with US Department Justice, Federal
Bureau of Prisons. He is the author of who Are
(31:30):
You See It?
Speaker 4 (31:31):
Say It?
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Seize It, and is president of a new Daylight Foundation.
Doctor Hendrix, thank you for being with us. A lot
of people do not understand the mechanics, all the hoops
you have to get through to even get Sean comes
to the courthouse. Even at the Fulton County Courthouse or
the city jail, inmates would have to be up sometimes
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at three o'clock in the morning for safety precautions, getting
them fed, getting them into their court clothes, out of
their jumpers, hustling him them sometimes in triple shackle into
a van or a bus. Got to lock it all
down so the inmates can't attack each other on the bus.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
I've had one star witness attack.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
By the defendant the edge that sent them over on
the same bus with a pin that he had stuck
down his pants where he got a pen from me
from the defense lawyer had stuck the pin down his
pants and stabbed my witness the morning of trial, I
put him on the stand anyway with the stab wound.
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That said Doctor Hendrix explain what an inmate light comes
has to go through and what the state has to
go through to even get comes there.
Speaker 11 (32:48):
Yeah, Nancy.
Speaker 15 (32:49):
The marshalls will send over lists on a daily basis,
and then this staff will start preparing for the next
trial movement for the next day. And after the five
o'clock count clears in the morning, the officers will get
those inmates up, get them down to R and D.
They'll give them a box breakfast like a Continental breakfast
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down in the holding area, and then they'll be out
processing with the rest of the offenders. And one of
the critical things I know you mentioned you know one
of your witnesses got stabbed. One of the key functions
for staff is to make sure that anybody who's caught,
you know their separateees. They make sure that they're not
in the same holding cells prior to them leaving the facility,
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and the marshals do move inmates on the same bus
sometimes or in the same band inmates that may be
or may not be testifying against each other, but they
try to keep them separated as much as possible, but
we don't have to worry about that in this particular case.
So when Diddy gets over to the courthouse, he'll be
putting the holding cell until he's ready to go up
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to the floor where his trial is being held. He'll
be put in his court closed and then he'll be
moved up to the courthouse to the courtroom where the
travel what he'll be having his processes done, and then
we do everything in reverse in the evening. They normally
bring the inmates back about five or six o'clock in
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the evening, and he'll go back through that same booking process,
being visually searched and that kind of thing. And also,
especially with this being a high profile case, a lot
of times he won't go through some of the other
intake processes as a health screening, but they'll definitely be
looking and monitoring his mental health for any suicidal audiation,
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especially as this trial goes on and some of the
testimony comes out, and they'll be monitoring that on a
day to day basis. But that's typically the process for
individuals when they're going from the.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
Jail, Doctor Hendrix, we're talking about the NBC and you're
telling me that the inmates are carefully evaluated for suicidal ideation.
And one word to you, Epstein, you really think MDC
is all on it when it's evaluating the health crisis
of inmates. Yeah, just you know.
Speaker 4 (35:13):
Just hold that thought.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
So, doctor Henry's are you telling me that MDC is
putting Combs and one of those big buses it's an
old school bus like painted white that says see I
Correctional Institute on the size No, with a lot of
other inmates, because I find that really hard to believe.
Speaker 15 (35:34):
That's the typical process. But he is in the East
building over at MDC, which houses less inmates than the
West building, as we're seeing in this shop right here,
So he's probably put in a van. He may not
even have no more than three or four other inmates
handing the court, depending on what the docket is for
that particular day. So he's probably not on a big
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van because he's going over to Manhattan Brooklyn and it
just depends on how many offenders that have court that
that particular day. But I would under.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Dwane Hendrix, You've been trying to tell me all along
that Combs is not getting any special treatment. But I
guarantee you he's not on the old school bus with
all the other inmates. He's probably getting ridden over in
what a limo.
Speaker 15 (36:22):
No, if anything, it'll be a police car or some
unmarked police a US Marshall vehicle, but it's more than
likely a van, and it will probably have one or
two other offenders in there, and they're probably in the
same housing unit that he's living in.
Speaker 5 (36:38):
Over there.
Speaker 6 (36:38):
Fort North.
Speaker 4 (36:46):
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
Speaker 8 (36:51):
Non jury consultant Lisa Marino has also joined Comb's ranks.
Moreno is best known for helping shape the jury that
acquitted to me All, the Florida College professor accused of
conspiring to provide services to the terrorist group the Palestinian
Islamic John Moreno will spend the next two days digging
into jurors backgrounds to determine who the defense will challenge
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and who they will fight to.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
Keep on Wow okay, high profile jury consultant brought in
on Shawn Combs's team as they try to determine who
will be a witness, who will be a character witness,
who will be kept out? Speaking of celebs in court
like Austin Powers aka Michael Myers and others. Here's one guy.
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I guarantee you the defense does not want to show up.
I spent like all the money for a commercial on
these new teeth.
Speaker 4 (37:49):
Once again. I had to shoot it on the iPhone.
Speaker 16 (37:54):
Go to easy dot com.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
That from the official Easy page. Sidney just briefly, how
much did Kanye pay for whatever he's got in place
of his teeth?
Speaker 11 (38:06):
Nancy? I believe he paid over eight hundred thousand dollars
for that new set of teeth.
Speaker 4 (38:11):
They are titanium.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
Okay, Doctor Bethany Marshall, psychoanalyst joining.
Speaker 4 (38:18):
Us out of LA.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
What do you think the defense is going to do
when Kanye shows up in the courtroom? Did you see
that dental video of him drooling with about a million
dollars worth of titanium in his mouth? That it came
up during jury selection. Kanye's name came up in jury selection,
which I'm going to.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
Go to Comlin on.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
But you know, no way do they want him in
the courtroom.
Speaker 16 (38:43):
Well, Nancy, first of all, he should have a diamond
grill for how much he's spent on his teeth, the
most somebody has ever spent on their veneers or teeth
that's come into my Beverly Hills office is seventy five
thousand dollars, So he got ripped off.
Speaker 9 (38:58):
Secondly, you know, he's so lay, viol and unpredictable. One
day he loves Diddy, the next day he hates Diddy.
You know, I think it's just he's just a very
precarious person to have in the courtroom.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
But his name actually came up in v Dayer which
Cohen's delay is French for to speak the truth, another
name for jury selection. Lauren Collin joining us at the courthouse.
From the beginning of Lauren, what what did did he
have to do with Kanye? In jury selection?
Speaker 7 (39:26):
Kanye Is name was one of the many celebrity names
that was brought up during the VUA Deer and Kanye
and Diddy had this now infamous p phone call while
Diddy was an MDC back in March, where Diddy said
thinged like they're out to get us, and then Kanye
after alleged that he has been giving Diddy money and
he has been giving Ditty's children money. Also, Nancy, I
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want to point out that Mike Myers and Kanye West
actually did this charity telethon back in the early two
thousands after Hurricane Katrina. So maybe Mike Myers could speak
to the character of Ditty through Kanye. That was the
thought I had, just speculating.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
Hey, it'll be cold day in Hades before anybody brings
on good character in this case if they can find
such a witness for the defense, because once they do that,
that opens the door for the state to bring on
bad character. In other words, all of the other sixty
plus similar transactions as demonstrated in civil lawsuits against Sean Combs.
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Here's a big problem, Sidney Sumner. We understand that victim
number three is in the wind that the state can't
find her or her lawyer, Sydney.
Speaker 4 (40:39):
That's the problem. We predicted this was going to happen.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
Did Ditty's team get to her and now she's not
going to testify.
Speaker 11 (40:45):
It's quite possible, Nancy. We know that Combs was using
other inmates jail phone numbers to make calls to potential witnesses,
so this would not be behavior that is not reported
for him. And we know that that third witness actually
intended to use her real name in court, so propecutor
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set up a pseudony one for her and she decided, no,
I want to use my real name. So now that
she's backed out entirely, it's a very huge.
Speaker 4 (41:18):
Red flag, big red flag.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
Why now, on the eve of trial, when the evidence
is about to pour from the witness stand, does one
of the state's witnesses disappear, vanish in the wind? We
wait as evidence commences in the courtroom, and now we
remember an American hero, Deputy shaff Brian Mahaffey, Rockdale, Sheriff's Georgia,
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shot and killed in the line of duty, survived by
wife turned widow, Diana, children Trenton and Anniston. American hero
Deputy Shriff Brian Mahaffey Nancy Gray signing off goodbye friend
Speaker 15 (42:00):
At
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, does did he need a diaper?
Shawncomb's begging for an emergency bathroom break in court? And
tonight our authorities finally believing a man caught on tape
years ago claiming to be Shawn Combe's sex slave. We
(00:23):
have the tape, plus Austin Powers, Michael Jordan HBO and
a six pack. What does any of that have to
do with Shawncombe's multi count federal indictment? This as a
victim vanishes, I'm Nancy Grece, this is Crime Stories. Thank
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you for being with us?
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Did he on trial?
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Sex trafficking, racketeering and the threat of life behind bars?
Jury selection wraps this week in one of the biggest
celebrity cases of the decade.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Shawnclme's demanding an emergency bathroom break in court to the judge.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
Listen Sean Diddy.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Comb's sex trafficking trial kicks off with jury selection. Combs
listens intently as potential jurors are questioned after filling out
their written questionnaire. Mogul nods and shakes his head as
jurors talk about their experiences with drug addiction, sexual assault,
and physical violence after returning from a requested bathroom break.
Combs apologizes to Judge Subermanian. I'm sorry, your honor, I'm
(01:25):
a little nervous today.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
Straight out to you.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Veteran trial lawyer Eric Fattus joining us from Varner Fattest
elite legal former felony prosecutor, Eric, thank you for being
with us. Do you think Diddy's reman just clenched a
little bit when he had to ask her that emergency
bathroom break? Was it all just too much for him
when he finally came into courtroom having to answer up
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to all the claims made against him. I've never had
a defendant actually leave mid jury selection for an emergency
bathroom break.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
Well, I mean, when I get really nervous, sometimes I
have to go to It's it's a common thing in
the court room. They're going to be there for hours
upon hours, and it is a tense situation.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
You know.
Speaker 5 (02:09):
Sometimes it's the calling of nature. Sometimes it's to get
a break, to get a breather from what's going on.
It's hard to say exactly did he had to do that,
but not uncommon under these circumstances he is facing, you know,
his fate, his future is on the line here.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Okay, you know, I'm sure you're not going to tell
me the truth. Let's go out to Robert Crispin joining
me Private Eye with Crispin Special Investigations, but former Federal
Task Force for the US Department of Justice DEA Miami
Field Division. It goes on and on. Former homicide investigator Crispin,
come on, hey too, want to look at that jury
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panel and said I got to go, and I got
to go right now.
Speaker 6 (02:50):
Yeah, Nancy, the rubber has hit the road, and Diddy
is starting to learn that his faith is about to
be tied up in those jurors. It's a completely different
atmosphere inside a federal courtroom. It's not your jail cell.
It's not the laxed atmosphere sitting and laughing and talking
about your case with your lawyers. It's not reading your
case in the newspaper. It's the real deal and it's
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no bs. It's going down.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
This judge is very no nonsense. Joining me outside the courthouse.
Investigative reporter Lauren Colin, co host Primetime Crime on YouTube. Lauren,
thank you for being with us. Tell me about where
we are in jury selection, how it's playing out in
the courtroom.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Tell me about the jury panel, let's.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Start with that.
Speaker 7 (03:35):
Yes, Nancy, Well, normally, as you know, jury selection can
be kind of boring, but not for Sean Colmes. It's
turning out to be very colorful, colorful.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Excuse me.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Now, on May seventh.
Speaker 7 (03:47):
They were able to get their forty five full of jurors,
and they will have their strikes on Friday, May ninth,
where the defense will get ten strikes and the prosecution
will get their six strikes and then they'll narrow jurors
down to twelve and six alternates.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
Now, as far as jurors go.
Speaker 7 (04:04):
Nancy, it's been so intriguing. We have, insofar a graphic designer,
a former attorney who interned at the Brooklyn DIA's office
in the domestic violence unit. We also have a un
employee who actually works with counter terrorism, and somehow they
made it through and it actually seemed like these people
(04:26):
want to be here in a way, the way they're
downplaying certain things. Now, as far as certain potential jurors
who are out, we have an HBO employee who didn't
work directly on the fall of Ditty, but the defense
wasn't taking any chances. We have someone who said wealthy
people can get away with more. They can buy their
way out.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
Of the law.
Speaker 7 (04:44):
And we also have a woman who claimed that she
fainted when she heard the term BJ.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
When she heard the term BJ, she feigned, Okay, yeah,
she's got to go. Not only that, there was one
guy doom scrolling who was just like looking through his phone,
and at least one of those scrolling adventures he took
popped up a Diddy article. He's out. We had one
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guy that said he couldn't go a full day without
smoking weed, he's gone. We had one person that was
so tired and exhausted, stating he stayed up all night
binging on Star Wars. He's gone. You don't want anybody
falling asleep. Why don't you want somebody falling asleep? Because
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that is grounds for a miss trial. If one juror
is not paying attention and missus testimony, it's over and correction.
I have never found for a die or a jury
selection to be boring ever. In fact, that's always been
one of my favorite parts of the trial. So what
more do we know about jury selection?
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Listen, one man is dismissed because he attended Shancombs High.
Speaker 8 (05:57):
School, albe At thirty years later, another as a producer
for HBO who did not work on their Didty documentary,
but admits to several water cooler talks with coworkers who did.
A marketing director at publisher Simon and Schuster is also
dismissed due to her work on singer L. B. Schuer's
upcoming memoir. A fourth issue that brings last for many
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in the courtroom is a potential jurors employment at the MDC.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
That HBO employee may not have worked directly on the
HBO documentary The Fall of Ditty, but I imagine they
know what was in the outtakes, what was left on
the editing floor, all the background. The HBO employee admits
to water cooler discussions of the documentary and of Ditty.
(06:45):
Speaking of the HBO documentary that has the defense shaking
in its boose, listen his knots on her head.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
It was horrific, he says. Sometimes you just got that
these holes know who the boss is. I've seen them
both holding on, fighting for my life. He said, I'm
puffed aady, I'll eat your face off.
Speaker 9 (07:04):
I always believe that I was the only victim.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Wow, no wonder the defense doesn't want that HBO employee.
That's my our friends, I have an investigation discovery. Hey
straight out to Lynn Shaw joining me, founder director Lynn's Warriors,
committed to ending human trafficking and sexploitation of women and girls.
Did you hear this, okay quote from Sean Combs.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
He says, sometimes you just got.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
To let these hoes know who the boss is.
Speaker 10 (07:34):
Yeah, well, you know what, Sometimes a dirty Diddy. I
wish Nancy I could get in that courtroom and just
stare him down. I wish we could fill the courtroom
with all of his alleged victims and women and also
men here in New York, My fellow New Yorkers, I
have full confidence in them to stare him down. Remember
numbers power. We have to stare him down. This is
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kind of the rallying cry I'm hearing here on the
streets of New York with people I know the entertainment
not only music business, overall entertainment business, including Broadway and television.
Everybody's waiting on this one. He's talking like this, he's
making apologies about Cassie. Dirty Diddy is going down. Nobody's
going to fall for his act anymore.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Sometimes you just got to let these hoes know who
the boss is. Well, she was certainly on the other
foot now in that courtroom, and there's more no wonder
they want that HBO employee off the jury.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
I am absolutely nervous sharing what I've seen.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
I can no longer just remain silent.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
This is where I'm.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Supposed to be. Much of what we're hearing is about
the Cassie Ventira tape, and there's a lot of speculation
as to if and how that's going to come into evidence.
That was where our friends had investigation discovery. Right now,
jury selection going down, and the jury will be complete
at any minute. We believe the evidence will begin pouring
(09:02):
from the witness stand now. I don't think it's going
to be that easy, because it never is. Straight out
to Sidney Sumner joining US Crime Online dot Com Crime
Stories investigative reporter, Sidney, thank you for being with us.
There have been many people already thrown off the jury. Now,
I'm not talking about the Pettit jury a derivation of
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petite or small. The Pettit jury is the jury of
twelve plus alternates, and ps I don't think six alternates
have a nut are enough in high profile cases, and
really any case I usually get between four, six to
eight alternates. I mean, look what happened is Scott Peterson.
For Pete's sake, I think they ended up using nearly
every alternate they had. That said, we're trying to get
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a petit jury out of a big panel. Interesting and
this was true when I prosecuted an inner city Atlanta
Sidney Sumner. The defense has more strikes than the state.
The defense has ten strikes, which is crucial when you're
narrowing down a panel of forty five to sixty people
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to just twelve. The defense has ten strikes, ten choices,
and they don't have to explain it why they throw
somebody off the jury. The state has about half that many,
at six strikes Sidney Sumner.
Speaker 11 (10:21):
That's correct in this case, Nancy as well. The Feds
will only get to strike six while the defense gets ten.
That still leads us with twenty nine potential jurors out
of those forty five removing those sixteen. So from there
it'll be interesting to see who is removed after that.
But we know that a lot of these jurors are
(10:43):
having problems with the Cassie video. Everybody has seen it,
and everybody has formed an opinion on it. This jury
selection is very interesting because it's unlikely that anyone in
that courtroom doesn't at least have an idea of who
Diddy is, whether or not they're familiar with his charges.
So this has become a huge hurdle for everyone in
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the courtroom to jump over.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
You know, you're so right.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
The Cassie video Cassie Ventura, who was testifying under her
own name. There are other alleged victims testifying under pseudonyms,
like Jane Doe, and we think tonight that one of
those victims has disappeared. The state stating in court that
they have not been able to reach the victim's lawyer.
Now it's one thing not to be able to find
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the witness, but you can't find the lawyer. The lawyer
has gone deafcom for as well. That's not good for
the state. But I want to go forward with jury
selection now this as an alleged sex slave emerges. And remember,
the state and the defense can amend or add to
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their witness list if there are newly discovered witnesses. Will
Jonathan Odie be a corroborating witness listen?
Speaker 12 (12:02):
I had sex with Cassie and Sean basically he would
he would masturbate and tell him what to do with Cassie.
I had like fifteen encounters.
Speaker 13 (12:11):
And I heard lots of business because what they would
do is Sean talks a lot on the on the
phone and on the TV was feeding stuff and I'll
be in there. I was like a sex sleeve.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Okay, yeah, gross, that is Jonathan Odie Diddy's sex slave.
And this video was years ago when he was arrested
on some other count.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
There he is.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
And again, who do you think is going to be
a witness? Nuns and priests and vergence know somebody like
Jonathan Odie? Who else is hanging around? Sean comes now,
I want to play what you just heard one more time. Listen.
Speaker 13 (12:48):
I had sex.
Speaker 12 (12:49):
With Cassie and Sean basically he would he would masturbate
and tell her what to do with Cassie. I had
like fifteen encounters and I heard lots.
Speaker 13 (12:58):
Of business because what they would do is Sean talks
a lot on the on the phone and on the
TV with feeding up and I'll be in there.
Speaker 5 (13:06):
I was like a SI.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
Sleep Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
For now and it'sycho analyst doctor Bethany Marshall joining us
out of la, author of deal Breakers. You can see
her now on peacock at doctor Bethany Marshall dot com.
Doctor Bethany, let's break this down. When you were taking English,
did the teacher ever separate the sentence on the blackboard
and you know, diagram the sentence. Here's the verb, Here
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is the adverb, here is the adjective, here's the subject.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
Blah blah blah, okay.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
I had sex with Cassie and Sean. Basically, hey, Sean
would masturbate and tell me what to do with Cassie.
No wonder she's running down the hall trying to get away.
I have like fifteen encounters. I heard a lot of
business because Sean would talk on the phone with it
on the TV with speakers while I was being quote
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like a sex slave.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
Help me out, doctor Bethany.
Speaker 9 (14:13):
You know, it reminds me of a clinical case of
a colleague where there was this sociopath sex offender who
would put his wife in the bathroom, defecate on her,
tell her to stay lying on the floor while he
went out and dated other women. And that clinical case
is important because It takes us inside the mind of
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an alleged offender, and in this case P Diddy is
doing business, puffing himself up, putting himself in a position
of power while he debases Cassie. Those are very, very
common psychodynamics in a case like this. You know, Nancy,
that explosive need to go.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
To the bathroom.
Speaker 9 (14:54):
That tells me that he went into fight or flight,
meaning he had a sudden need to evacuate his bowels.
That means he was scared. I wondered, is this the
first time in his life? P Diddy is actually scared.
We juxtaposed that to having this sex slave. You know,
these defendants tend to they thrive when they're in positions
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of power. They fall apart when they have to answer
for their offenses. Remember Michael Jackson where he got the
spider bit and he came to court with his slippers
and his pajama pajamas. He really fell apart under pressure.
Speaker 12 (15:33):
I had settlement with Sean Okay, and he belongs to
that agenda. That's why he's so famous in animal contracts.
Speaker 13 (15:40):
This season twoes my settlement put me in a box.
Speaker 12 (15:44):
Based on I couldn't talk gozalas Will be sued, so
I let it be. But they've been following me and
they've had small charcas, had the FBI on me. That said,
other interpret other agencies looking at me fine on the
og because they want to send me up as an
extortioness like if O story sharp on one now.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
At the time when Odie was saying all of this
back in twenty eighteen on tape, everyone discounted it Shawn
Combs sex slave, making Odie participate in for sex acts
with Cassie Ventura.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
Somehow Mark Garraghos gets in the mix.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
You hear Odi stating very plainly that he had a
quote settlement with Sean Combs that if he talked about
what happened with Cassie and comes, he would be sued.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
It's called an.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
NDA non disclosure agreement, and that Mark Geragos was on
to him. Now suddenly it's all fitting together. Sidney Sumner
explain why this suddenly may corroborate what the current state's
witnesses are saying.
Speaker 11 (16:57):
So, Nancy, we've known about John than Odie's claims since
the beginning of this case. Since all of this information
about Diddy's sexual deviance and raping behavior came to the
public eye with Caffy's lawsuit. But yes, this happened back
in twenty eighteen, and this police interrogation is full of
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odd conspiracy theories. The Illuminati gets brought up several times,
so it didn't really feel like Odie's claims were very credible.
But now we have a photo of that NBA that
he claims that he signed, so we now have proof
that that document that he references in that interrogation does
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in fact exist. So it seems like Odie had some
kind of secret about Combs that he thought was so
important that he paid this former Horn star five million
dollars for his silence.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
You know, City Center.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Every time I ask you a question, it's like opening
out one of those mystery boxes or a grab bag.
I get so much more than I expected. Did you
just say, Odie, Odie, the guy we were just watching
in the hospital gown talking about being a sex life,
got a five million dollar settlement from yeah, him, from
Combs and as a matter of fact, putting down eight
hundred thousand dollars on a home.
Speaker 11 (18:16):
Yes, so that information is coming from Odie's ex wife.
So she claimed that he met Combs at a party
at his Miami Star Island home, and they struck some
sort of relationship which actually strained their marriage and led
to their divorce. Now immediately herfter that divorce, Odie, who
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had claimed that his net worth was in the negatives
at the time of their divorce, suddenly purchases a ton
of property eight hundred thousand dollars worth and it wasn't mortgaged.
It was all in cash. So she has no idea
where he came up with that money. And believe maybe
he's telling the truth. Maybe he did at five million
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dollars from Sean Coms.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
And of course Mark Giragos is an incredible lawyer, about
as usual. He's into it up to here, he's up
to his Let me just say ears and alligators, because
you see Odie is talking about Giragos way back when
in twenty eighteen, and now Giaghos is in the crosshairs
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of the judge.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Listen prosecutor's point to one of Garogos's comments, in particular
calling their team a six pack of white women. Judge
Supermanian was shocked by the quip, calling it outrageous. Garrogos's
daughter Tenny pushback, saying her father merely made an observation
considering her client feels targeted for his race. The judge
said the comments would not be tolerated in any court
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from any lawyer all across the nation.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Subermanian is not putting up with that technical legal term.
B s straight out to Lauren Collin joining us at
the courthouse. What did Geragos do now?
Speaker 7 (20:00):
Well, Nancy Georgos on his podcast stated that the prosecution
was a six pack of white women. Now that's definitely
a prejudicial statement. The prosecution submitted this letter to the judge,
as you said, and Geragos is technically not an advisor
to the defense. He does represent Diddy's mother from what
I understand, but he knows better than this, and as
(20:23):
you said, he's an amazing lawyer, so he needs to
step back a bit.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Another issue though, right there, Eric Fattis, is Geragos is
claiming that he's not on the legal team officially. Okay,
See the judge Subramanian doesn't like that, And I'll tell
you why. Neither's a state it's not. I guess Gearaghos
is just that if you're not on officially on the
defense team, you are not subject to the orders of
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the directors of the judge. Because you're not on the
defense team, you can say and do anything you want to.
Even with Harvey Levin on TMZ on that podcast, I
was just showing you the Two Angry Men podcasts. He
can say whatever he wants to because he's not on
the team.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
That's why. You know what it's like being a little pregnant.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
That's not possible, right, So is he on the team
or is he not on the team. That's the issue
with Garygos right now?
Speaker 5 (21:16):
Yeah, Nancy, And you know, on top of that, Garrigos
has a First Amendment right. He can say what he wants.
And this isn't the first time an alleged racial bias
has been brought up by the defense. They talked about
did he being prosecuted under what's called the Man Act,
which infamously was used to prosecute black boxer Jack Johnson
in nineteen thirteen for having romantic relations with a white woman.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
And so fast, as fast as you're digging really deep,
if you're going back to a case in nineteen thirteen,
can I just drag you up to twenty twenty five
and address what's happening in court right now?
Speaker 5 (21:49):
I hear you, and my understanding is that Gargos has
a relative or a daughter who might be associated with
the case who's a lawyer. But yeah, so Garrigos is
kind of like is he or isn't he in terms
of being involved in the case, And if he's not
technically an attorney of record, then who cares what the
judge says? He can kind of say what he wants.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Sean Diddy. Combe's defense lawyers insist he isn't a rapist
but a swinger. Attorney Mark Agnefilo tells the court Comb
simply engaged in a swinger lifestyle, seeing nothing wrong with
his behavior.
Speaker 14 (22:20):
As potential jurors are questioned about their ability to maintain impartiality,
an obstacle quickly rears its head the video of Comb's
attacking Cassie. Numerous potential jurors have seen the video and
formed opinions on it. Of those who have watched it,
only a few were able to say they did not
think it would affect their impartiality.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
While some who have seen the Cassie video are allowed
to stay, several jurors are dismissed for the opinions they
formed from it. One juror called the video damning evidence,
while another said it would be hard to get new
evidence against the video. Another juror was dismissed for his
belief the rap mogul could quote by his way out
of jail.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
Yeah, a lot of people.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
I mean, if you watch CNN or any major news
outlet which has followed up with CNN's video, you've seen
the Cassie video. What's so disturbing.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
Let's take a look.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
Here comes Cassie and this from our friends at CNN,
trying to get away according to reports, from a freakoff.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
Uh, oh, not so fast, Cassie.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Now, according to coms, this is all part of his
quote voluntary swow swinger lifestyle. Ooh, stomping off with all
Cassie stuff. Oh, she will have to go back to
the freak off. Oh it's not over yet. Here he's
having a little fit. Oh there goes a two thousand
dollars base. This is the video we're talking about. Joining
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us at the courthouse, Lauren Colin. Some jurors are having
a hard time with the Cassie video, and some of
them have already been released from the jury pool.
Speaker 7 (23:49):
Explain, Yes, some jurors who saw the video and said
things like, well, he's guilty of domestic abuse in that video.
They were immediately dismissed. But Nancy, I want to point
out that the defence also had an expert testify a
few weeks back during the pre trial hearings that that
video was actually sped up.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Don't care because it can be unsped up for the jury.
But thank you for pointing out that argument by the
defensive that's all they've got. Okay, they're up, you know,
the create without a paddle. But that said, we've heard
a lot of conflicting statements to Sidney Sumner following up
on what Lauren.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
Collin said, She's absolutely right.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
By the way, again I called her being right again,
Sidney Sumner, there have been reports to states not introducing
the Cassie video. I find that hard to believe. I
think they're not introducing the CNN version, but that they
will introduce the video in full or portions thereof.
Speaker 11 (24:46):
What about it, Sidney, Yes, Nancy, we've heard conflicting reports
on this. So before we already knew that the prosecution
was not planning to introduce the CNN version of the video.
That is correct. They were going to play back a
ver that was recorded on an iPhone, So maybe maybe
this is how CNN obtained the recording in the first place.
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So you're seeing it play back on a computer screen
and somebody is recording that video on an iPhone, so
it's very clear that it's not edited in any way,
shape or form. All of the potential jurors, many of
them at least, mentioned that they had seen the CNN
Kassie video, and prosecutors went, well, whoa, whoa, we're no
longer planning to introduce this as evidence at all. So
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the opinions they forged based on that video shouldn't matter,
And of course the judge kind of wrote it down, like,
h I think it's still as important if they've formed
an opinion on who cones is exactly on this video.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Well, you know what, Sydney, You're right still up in
the air. Will the video come in? Will the video
not come in? But even if that video doesn't come in,
what about this videos.
Speaker 9 (25:57):
So difficult to refloat on the darkest times in your life.
Speaker 15 (26:03):
Sometimes you got to do that.
Speaker 12 (26:06):
I was, I mean, I had rock bottom.
Speaker 5 (26:11):
But I made no excuses.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
My behavior on that video is inexcusable.
Speaker 12 (26:18):
I take full responsibility for my ashes in that video.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
I'm disgusted, right right right.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
That's from Diddy's official Instagram. So Robert Crispin, if he
didn't do it, if it was all consensual and Cassie's
fine with it, why is he apologizing for it.
Speaker 6 (26:34):
Because he knows he's guilty in his online I think
he knows it and.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
I like it because it's succinct or it was succinct,
but you kept talking to Eric Fattis.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
Here's another thing.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Even if the state to avoid an evidentiary problem on appeal,
don't make me go into the in depth explanation of that.
If they don't bring it in in their case, here's
a way to get it in. Because you know somebody's
going to take the stand and say that was all consensual,
Cassie loved being with Cobs. Then they'll bring it in
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to cross examine a witness or in a state's rebuttal case.
There's many ways to get this video in.
Speaker 5 (27:18):
Since could surely open the door to this video coming in,
and that would be a huge misstep. Another big misstep
is the prosecutor's office making a huge deal about this
video in the months leading up to the case, and
now if they're not going to show it, they have
effectively assassinated Toy's character and got into the minds of
these potential jerks.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
What what, Hey, the state didn't do that to him,
He did it to himself, Saint Lynn Shaw.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
That's exactly what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Comb's claiming the state has assassinated his character by CNN
releasing the video. Okay, a, the CNN did that, not
the state. Diddy did that to himself. But yet we're hearing, oh,
the state, the powerful, evil state, they did this to Diddy.
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He asked, He's the one on the video, not the prosecutor,
running down.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
The hall on a towel.
Speaker 10 (28:12):
This video of Cassie running away in her bare feet. Everybody,
do you notice she has no shoes on. If you
look at that video, so many women report to me
and girls that's how they escape. They don't put shoes on.
They run away barefoot down New York streets. I've heard
highways barefoot. This is in no way you know this Diddy,
this dirty Diddy. He flips the story. What you know what,
(28:34):
he's blaming everybody else. We have seen this for months now.
He is guilty, and I maintain this video. Everybody's heard
about it. If you haven't seen it, everybody knows about it.
It's very here in New York, all over the place.
So you know what that is his downfall? Kicking a
woman repeatedly dragging her. You know what he's going down.
(28:54):
He I guarantee when we come back after all this,
you will see he crossed the wrong person. He's eating
a woman on a camera. I don't know where the
hotel was. I guess they got paid off. Why they
didn't report him to the police. But Dirty Diddy.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Is going down.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Jurors are also asked to review a nearly two hundred
person list of names that may come up in the trial.
Judge supermaney and likens the list to an appendix from
The Lord of the Rings. The judge asks the attorneys
to provide the list when jurors complete their questionnaire. As
they spend time listening to numerous jurors verbally explain why
they recognize famous names like Michael B. Jordan, Kanye West,
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Kid Cuddy, and even Mike Myers.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
What does Michael Myers aka Austin Powers have to do
with Sean Comes's multi count federal indictment. I think we
figured it out, you know, doctor Evil.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
I used to think you were crazy, I know, but
now I can see you nuts.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
I thank you from the ninety movie Austin Powers, the
International Man of Mystery. That's all we can piece together
so far. But then you've got Michael B. Jordan, Kanye
Oma Stars to Sydney Summer. I think we figured out
why Kid Cutty may be on the list where the
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jurors are asked, do you know any of these people?
And Kid Cutty, Kanye Mayers, Jordan and many others are
on the list. I think I know about Kid Cutty,
explain Sid.
Speaker 6 (30:29):
So.
Speaker 11 (30:30):
After one of many Passy and Comb's breakups, Cassy started
seeing Kid Cutty, and just a few months later, his
car mysteriously exploded outside of his house. Passy attributes that
to her ex boyfriend.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
So that tells me he may come in as a witness,
maybe to corroborate claims that this wasn't just forced sex
or who were sex acts at the free co offs,
but that violence became an integral, a critical part of
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the scenario. And we were hearing doctor Bethany Marshall describe
that guys I'm hearing in my ear. We are now
being joined by special guest, doctor Dwayne Hendricks. Doctor Hendrix,
former Associate warden at MDC in Brooklyn, where comes as
being held, former Senior warden with US Department Justice, Federal
Bureau of Prisons. He is the author of who Are
(31:30):
You See It?
Speaker 4 (31:31):
Say It?
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Seize It, and is president of a new Daylight Foundation.
Doctor Hendrix, thank you for being with us. A lot
of people do not understand the mechanics, all the hoops
you have to get through to even get Sean comes
to the courthouse. Even at the Fulton County Courthouse or
the city jail, inmates would have to be up sometimes
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at three o'clock in the morning for safety precautions, getting
them fed, getting them into their court clothes, out of
their jumpers, hustling him them sometimes in triple shackle into
a van or a bus. Got to lock it all
down so the inmates can't attack each other on the bus.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
I've had one star witness attack.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
By the defendant the edge that sent them over on
the same bus with a pin that he had stuck
down his pants where he got a pen from me
from the defense lawyer had stuck the pin down his
pants and stabbed my witness the morning of trial, I
put him on the stand anyway with the stab wound.
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That said Doctor Hendrix explain what an inmate light comes
has to go through and what the state has to
go through to even get comes there.
Speaker 11 (32:48):
Yeah, Nancy.
Speaker 15 (32:49):
The marshalls will send over lists on a daily basis,
and then this staff will start preparing for the next
trial movement for the next day. And after the five
o'clock count clears in the morning, the officers will get
those inmates up, get them down to R and D.
They'll give them a box breakfast like a Continental breakfast
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down in the holding area, and then they'll be out
processing with the rest of the offenders. And one of
the critical things I know you mentioned you know one
of your witnesses got stabbed. One of the key functions
for staff is to make sure that anybody who's caught,
you know their separateees. They make sure that they're not
in the same holding cells prior to them leaving the facility,
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and the marshals do move inmates on the same bus
sometimes or in the same band inmates that may be
or may not be testifying against each other, but they
try to keep them separated as much as possible, but
we don't have to worry about that in this particular case.
So when Diddy gets over to the courthouse, he'll be
putting the holding cell until he's ready to go up
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to the floor where his trial is being held. He'll
be put in his court closed and then he'll be
moved up to the courthouse to the courtroom where the
travel what he'll be having his processes done, and then
we do everything in reverse in the evening. They normally
bring the inmates back about five or six o'clock in
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the evening, and he'll go back through that same booking process,
being visually searched and that kind of thing. And also,
especially with this being a high profile case, a lot
of times he won't go through some of the other
intake processes as a health screening, but they'll definitely be
looking and monitoring his mental health for any suicidal audiation,
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especially as this trial goes on and some of the
testimony comes out, and they'll be monitoring that on a
day to day basis. But that's typically the process for
individuals when they're going from the.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
Jail, Doctor Hendrix, we're talking about the NBC and you're
telling me that the inmates are carefully evaluated for suicidal ideation.
And one word to you, Epstein, you really think MDC
is all on it when it's evaluating the health crisis
of inmates. Yeah, just you know.
Speaker 4 (35:13):
Just hold that thought.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
So, doctor Henry's are you telling me that MDC is
putting Combs and one of those big buses it's an
old school bus like painted white that says see I
Correctional Institute on the size No, with a lot of
other inmates, because I find that really hard to believe.
Speaker 15 (35:34):
That's the typical process. But he is in the East
building over at MDC, which houses less inmates than the
West building, as we're seeing in this shop right here,
So he's probably put in a van. He may not
even have no more than three or four other inmates
handing the court, depending on what the docket is for
that particular day. So he's probably not on a big
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van because he's going over to Manhattan Brooklyn and it
just depends on how many offenders that have court that
that particular day. But I would under.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Dwane Hendrix, You've been trying to tell me all along
that Combs is not getting any special treatment. But I
guarantee you he's not on the old school bus with
all the other inmates. He's probably getting ridden over in
what a limo.
Speaker 15 (36:22):
No, if anything, it'll be a police car or some
unmarked police a US Marshall vehicle, but it's more than
likely a van, and it will probably have one or
two other offenders in there, and they're probably in the
same housing unit that he's living in.
Speaker 5 (36:38):
Over there.
Speaker 6 (36:38):
Fort North.
Speaker 4 (36:46):
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
Speaker 8 (36:51):
Non jury consultant Lisa Marino has also joined Comb's ranks.
Moreno is best known for helping shape the jury that
acquitted to me All, the Florida College professor accused of
conspiring to provide services to the terrorist group the Palestinian
Islamic John Moreno will spend the next two days digging
into jurors backgrounds to determine who the defense will challenge
(37:13):
and who they will fight to.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
Keep on Wow okay, high profile jury consultant brought in
on Shawn Combs's team as they try to determine who
will be a witness, who will be a character witness,
who will be kept out? Speaking of celebs in court
like Austin Powers aka Michael Myers and others. Here's one guy.
(37:35):
I guarantee you the defense does not want to show up.
I spent like all the money for a commercial on
these new teeth.
Speaker 4 (37:49):
Once again. I had to shoot it on the iPhone.
Speaker 16 (37:54):
Go to easy dot com.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
That from the official Easy page. Sidney just briefly, how
much did Kanye pay for whatever he's got in place
of his teeth?
Speaker 11 (38:06):
Nancy? I believe he paid over eight hundred thousand dollars
for that new set of teeth.
Speaker 4 (38:11):
They are titanium.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
Okay, Doctor Bethany Marshall, psychoanalyst joining.
Speaker 4 (38:18):
Us out of LA.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
What do you think the defense is going to do
when Kanye shows up in the courtroom? Did you see
that dental video of him drooling with about a million
dollars worth of titanium in his mouth? That it came
up during jury selection. Kanye's name came up in jury selection,
which I'm going to.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
Go to Comlin on.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
But you know, no way do they want him in
the courtroom.
Speaker 16 (38:43):
Well, Nancy, first of all, he should have a diamond
grill for how much he's spent on his teeth, the
most somebody has ever spent on their veneers or teeth
that's come into my Beverly Hills office is seventy five
thousand dollars, So he got ripped off.
Speaker 9 (38:58):
Secondly, you know, he's so lay, viol and unpredictable. One
day he loves Diddy, the next day he hates Diddy.
You know, I think it's just he's just a very
precarious person to have in the courtroom.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
But his name actually came up in v Dayer which
Cohen's delay is French for to speak the truth, another
name for jury selection. Lauren Collin joining us at the courthouse.
From the beginning of Lauren, what what did did he
have to do with Kanye? In jury selection?
Speaker 7 (39:26):
Kanye Is name was one of the many celebrity names
that was brought up during the VUA Deer and Kanye
and Diddy had this now infamous p phone call while
Diddy was an MDC back in March, where Diddy said
thinged like they're out to get us, and then Kanye
after alleged that he has been giving Diddy money and
he has been giving Ditty's children money. Also, Nancy, I
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want to point out that Mike Myers and Kanye West
actually did this charity telethon back in the early two
thousands after Hurricane Katrina. So maybe Mike Myers could speak
to the character of Ditty through Kanye. That was the
thought I had, just speculating.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
Hey, it'll be cold day in Hades before anybody brings
on good character in this case if they can find
such a witness for the defense, because once they do that,
that opens the door for the state to bring on
bad character. In other words, all of the other sixty
plus similar transactions as demonstrated in civil lawsuits against Sean Combs.
(40:27):
Here's a big problem, Sidney Sumner. We understand that victim
number three is in the wind that the state can't
find her or her lawyer, Sydney.
Speaker 4 (40:39):
That's the problem. We predicted this was going to happen.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
Did Ditty's team get to her and now she's not
going to testify.
Speaker 11 (40:45):
It's quite possible, Nancy. We know that Combs was using
other inmates jail phone numbers to make calls to potential witnesses,
so this would not be behavior that is not reported
for him. And we know that that third witness actually
intended to use her real name in court, so propecutor
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set up a pseudony one for her and she decided, no,
I want to use my real name. So now that
she's backed out entirely, it's a very huge.
Speaker 4 (41:18):
Red flag, big red flag.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
Why now, on the eve of trial, when the evidence
is about to pour from the witness stand, does one
of the state's witnesses disappear, vanish in the wind? We
wait as evidence commences in the courtroom, and now we
remember an American hero, Deputy shaff Brian Mahaffey, Rockdale, Sheriff's Georgia,
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shot and killed in the line of duty, survived by
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