October 9, 2024 • 42 mins
Sean "Diddy" Combs' attorneys are returning to court for a third bail hearing, hoping for a different outcome.
A judge previously denied bond, citing Combs as both a flight risk and a threat to witnesses. Combs disputes these concerns. Meanwhile, Combs' mother, Janice Combs, has publicly responded to the allegations for the first time.
In a lengthy statement, she criticized what she called the "public lynching" of her son. While acknowledging that he has made mistakes and been dishonest about his treatment of his ex-girlfriend, she insists he is not guilty of the "repulsive allegations" and charges against him.
Janice Combs described the multiple lawsuits as attempts to extort money and blamed the federal indictment on his legal team's mishandling of Cassie Ventura’s lawsuit.
JOINING NANCY GRACE TODAY:
- Eric Faddis – Partner at Varner Faddis Elite Legal; Former Felony Prosecutor and Current Criminal Defense and Civil Litigation Attorney; Instagram: @e_fad @varnerfaddis; TikTok: @varnerfaddis
- Dr. Bethany Marshall – Psychoanalyst, Author – “Deal Breaker,” featured in hit show: “Paris in Love” on Peacock;, Instagram & TikTok: drbethanymarshall, X: @DrBethanyLive
- JoScott Morgan – Professor of Forensics: Jacksonville State University, Author, “Blood Beneath My Feet,” and Host: “Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan;” X: @JoScottForensic
- Brian Fitzgibbons – VP of Operations for USPA Nationwide Security; Instagram: @uspa_nationwide_security, Kingsman Philanthropic’s 2022 rescue missions of women and children in Ukraine, Iraq War Veteranide_security
- Sheryl McCollum – Cold Case Investigative Research Institute Founder & Host of New Podcast: “Zone 7;” X: @149Zone
- Lynn Shaw – Founder and Executive Director of Lynn’s Warriors (an organization committed to ending human trafficking and sexual exploitation); X: @lynns_warriors Youtube: @LynnsWarrior
- Alex West – Entertainment Reporter, The Mirror; themirror.com; IG/TW/TIKTOK: @alexwestnyc
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Did he party cocktail, cocaine and horse trenk that's horse tranquilizer.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Did he actually feed this to his guests?
Speaker 2 (00:19):
This while Shawn Combs's mother drops a bombshell good evening.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
I'm mean, see Grace, this is Crime Stories. Thank you
for being with us.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
The biggest secret in the entertainment industry. The wall of
silence has now been broken.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Victims are coming forward.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
We now represent one hundred and twenty individuals against Sean Diddycombs,
as well as claims against many other individuals and entities.
The names that we're going to name are names that
will shock you.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
We understand that a lot of Hollywood celebrities are shaking
in their boots because they know they are going to
be named, not by the Feds, by the civil lawyer Buzzby.
And remember this, the prosecutors are held to a certain
ethical duty as prosecutors sivil. The civil arena is a
(01:12):
whole another animal. There is nothing to stop Busby from
naming celebs, taking names.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
And naming them out loud.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
So we're waiting for the other shoe to drop this
as we learn that Diddi's party cocktail that's certainly putting
perfume on the pig. Some people call it the rape cocktail,
their words, not mine, includes cocaine and horse trenk.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Listen several of the individuals, and when I say several,
I mean many who did in fact seek medical treatment.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
We're drug testing and drugs were found in their system.
We're drugs, drugs that you've probably never heard of. One
in particular that continues to pop up is a drug
called xilacy for shrink, which based on our research, is
known as a horse.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Trank, horse tranquilizer. If it knocks out a horse, what
does it do to a lady? Say average way one
oh five to one five? What does that do to
a human being? You heard Tony Busby, the civil lawyer
(02:27):
who is getting thousands and thousands of calls on a
deity hotline, refer to xylazine known as trenk. It's a
veterinary tranquilizer. It's found in illicit drugs, and this is
what we've learned from.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Speaking to experts.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
It slows breathing, heart rate, blood pressure to dangerously low levels.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
It's very hard to reverse.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Overdose reversal meds like narcan do not reverse the effects
of xylazine. In other words, for instance, Prince when he
odeed on an opiate, possibly fentinel nar can, if he
had had it would have saved his life. If you
(03:14):
od on xylozine, there is not a drug reversal antidote.
Joining me an all star panel to makes sense of
what we know tonight. But first straight out to Alex
West joining us investigative and entertainment reporter with the Mirror.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Alex, thank you for being with.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Us horse trunk and cocaine at a party and guest
reportedly didn't know that they were being drugged with that.
Speaker 5 (03:42):
Yeah, we've heard that over and over again in all
this not all, but at least a good part of
the civil lawsuit stuff come forward so far. We don't
yet know how many of the one and twenty that
Busby is planning on filing.
Speaker 6 (03:54):
We'll involve those drugs.
Speaker 5 (03:57):
It's also worth noting that when did he was over
us sit in the hotel room, allegedly there was a
pink powder, an unidentified pink powder that was found in
his hotel room.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Doctor Bethany Marshall joining me.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Renown psycho analysts joining us out of LA author of
deal breaker. You can see her now on pecot Bethany.
I think twice before I even take a baby aster
for Pete's sake.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
It's one thing if you take the drugs, but.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Drugging someone else, especially without their knowledge, and using something
as volatile as this drug xylazine I believe it's called.
Speaker 6 (04:31):
Well, keep in mind the.
Speaker 7 (04:32):
Xylazine because it's a horse tranquilizer causes amnesia, what we
call antrolgrade amisia, meaning that the victim won't remember what
happened while they are on that drug, and the cocaine
keeps them active enough that they can participate in sex
acts outside of their conscious awareness. So this is a
very sinister thing to do to people. And then remember
(04:54):
he was taping the victims the whole time. So who
would do this a psychopath, associate, path, somebody who has
no regard for others, somebody who's a sadist as we've
been talking about that the infliction of cruelty makes him
sexually aroused, that he enjoys doing that and putting them
in humiliating positions. And then Nancy's stalking them after this
(05:18):
because once he tapes them on the xylazine and the cocaine.
It appears as if they're voluntarily participating in the sex
acts so that he can use that video against them
and stalk them for the rest of their lives.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Eric Fantasy is joining me.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Are now in trial lawyer, TV Legal analyst, partner at
Varner Fattist Elite Legal, former felony prosecutor.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Eric, thank you for being with us.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
We keep hearing about sex attacks on victims, but here
this is a serious aggravated assault. We typically think under
the law of aggravated assaults, which in MENI jurisdictions carry
twenty to life behind bars, as shooting somebody with a
gun or stabbing them they live. It's described as putting
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someone in fear of serious bodily harm, immediate fear. But
in this case, it's not a knife, it's not a gun.
It's horse trunk mixed with cocaine. That's the allegation. That's
a whole another set of felony charges that if this
has proven, could nail ditty.
Speaker 8 (06:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (06:28):
Now, I mean the allegations are pretty senisor here, and
the difference is that they're allegend that it's sexual assault
by co worship, so overcoming someone's will and that's where
these drugs come into play. Allegedly, they allowed ditty to
make sure that the victim could not consent, but also
could not defend themselves, really didn't know exactly what was
going on, but was present enough to participate in the
(06:51):
alleged sex acts. And so yeah, that is the allegation here,
and it's certainly problematic for doing.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Joining me right now.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Death investigator for forensics at Jacksonville State University, author of
Blood Beneath My Feet and star of a hit series
Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan. Just Scott, what is
horse trying? I mean, look, if it knocks out a horse,
what will it do to a person?
Speaker 8 (07:16):
Take them down to their knees? Nancy, Xylazine is specifically
what they're referring to in this particular case, and so
it's used. It's a non opiate related substance. So you're
not talking about something necessarily like a sentinel here, like
some kind of synthetic synthetic opiate. What we're talking about
(07:39):
is something that is expressly meant to use on equines,
which are horses, in order to sedate them for surgery.
So yeah, it can be. And here's another thing, with zoli.
It can in fact be mixed with fentanyl, which makes
it particularly dangerous. And they're seeing this out on the
streets now, So this is something that's been around for minutes,
(08:03):
but it is something that certainly the DEA is aware of.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Guys joining me is death investigator, forensic expert just gott
Morgan now joining me. Cheryl McCollum joining us from the field,
also forensic expert, host of a hit series Zone seven,
and founder of.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
The Cold Case Research Institute. Cheryl, help me think this through.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
My immediate reaction is, you can't prove it to a
reasonable doubt, beyond a reasonable doubt, so.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Don't put it in the pot.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
You know how it ruins the case when you have
one week link the week's sister in the case.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
You have to get rid of that, you have to
cut it out.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
But is there a way to prove to prove it,
not just rumor not just any into not what one
thousand people say, It doesn't matter because if they don't
know what the substance is clinically scientifically, Look, let me
put it like this. Okay, when I try a coat case, Okay,
(09:07):
we'd do a bus there'd be a drug lord, we'd
find the false wall. The fake wall would find all
the money and the drugs behind the wall. The dog
would find it. I can't just say, hey, I found
a bunch of white powder.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Convict him.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
All the defense would have to do is say, you
know what he hoards baby powder? You think can say anything,
But if you can't prove what the substance was, you
don't have a case. Did you hear what Joe Scott
Morgan just said that at the raid on Diddy's home.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
What if that yielded horse trank? What can we do
with that?
Speaker 10 (09:47):
Cheryl McCollum, There's four things you can weave together. One,
some of these victims salt medical treatment, those medical records
and the result of that blood work they can get.
Got eyewitnesses at these parties, perhaps they saw it. Number Three,
you've got the person that made the purchase. Keep in mind,
(10:11):
did he didn't go out on the street and get
cocaine and trunk? He didn't. And all these folks that
are associated with him that are now under this microscope,
they are going to learn. Whoever talks first gets the deal.
Somebody may very well come forward and explain what went
down on top of what was sees during these raids,
(10:33):
So all four of those things can paint again.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Cheryl, Cheryl, Cheryl, Cheryl.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
I can have fifty cops say I saw him sell
a hit, but if it's not tested at the laft, Cheryl,
you still don't have a case.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Period. I hear what you're saying. Do you know he
used it? Yes? Do I believe he used horse train convictims? Yes?
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Does Joe Scott Yes? Did they find it in his mansion?
Maybe let's just pretend yes. I still can't prove what
substance was administered to those partygoers unless they were tested
at the hospital and it.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Showed up crime stories with Nancy Grace, Just got Morgan
joining me.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
I want to follow up, and I appreciate what you said, Cheryl,
And yes, I would put it on my board proving guilt.
But it's not enough to bring a horse trank case.
It's just not enough against Diddy. We have to be realistic.
We don't want to ruin the rest of the case. Again,
Just got Morgan. I'm talking about horse trunk being used
on these victims without their knowledge.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
What about this?
Speaker 2 (11:50):
A horse trank victim has stated and I'll only call
her Jessica, it eats your skin away and you just
have a hole and then it leaves a scar. I know,
horse train can cause ulcers, can cause actually like holes
in your skin.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Why.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
I mean, look, my first cousin is a horse trainer.
Horses are huge. How much do they weigh, Jackie? I
mean hundreds and hundreds of pounds? You know about Google, right,
what Liz oh, dear Lord in Heaven, two thousand pounds.
If that can knock out a horse, what does it
(12:29):
do to a person? So why would this trunk cause ulcers? Cause,
as Jessica said, holes in her skin.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
I'm going to tell you I have.
Speaker 8 (12:41):
Not heard this before, but I have heard something similar
to this, and I know that covering drug cases, you've
encountered this with people that use injectables. If they skin pop,
for instance, which means they don't go into a vein,
they actually go into the subc fat and they start
(13:01):
to inject. This way, you can have ulcerated areas that
will appear. So was this drug being administered with a syringe?
Because I got to tell you it doesn't sound like
the normal course when you're trying to administer something that
is the equivalent of it's serving the same function as
(13:21):
a date breaking drug, so you would administer it orally.
So is she saying that it burned a hole in
her mouth. I've had cocaine overdoses before, when people quote
with chronic cocaine problems that died and the septument the
nose would ulcerate and you would have that kind of reaction,
But that's over a protracted period of time. This almost
(13:43):
sounds like if that's what she If we are to believe.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
The streame Michael Jackson and his nose falling apart.
Speaker 8 (13:50):
Well, no, I think that that. Maybe I can't speak
to that, but I know for a fact I've done
or participated in investigations and autop with individuals that had
eroded septims as a result of what they were saying.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
This symptom is that cartilage in the middle of your nose, right.
Speaker 8 (14:10):
That's split your nostrils into yeah, and so you'll get
that ulcerated area there. But many times, you know, because
these drugs are cut with things, all right, you don't
know what the agent is in there that they're cutting it.
And the idea here is just so our friends understand,
they try to extend the life of the drug that
they have, so you don't know what the skin is
coming in contact with. Nancy.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Well, this is what I know, Joe Scott from the
National Institute on Drug Abuse. Xylazin, which is horse trunk,
which reportedly did he's feeding to his guests in order
to sex assault them unbeknownst to them, is associated with
skin wounds, open sorees, ulcers, and abscesses. Now, while his
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party victims are suffering potential skin wounds, open sores, and obsesses,
he's not worried.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
He's relaxing with some mango people. Check it out with
the back up.
Speaker 7 (15:12):
I ain't expect I don't want it.
Speaker 11 (15:15):
I wanted bet you know me, I allow myself to
not have lingo.
Speaker 8 (15:26):
I don't know long way no better.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Thanks Diddy for that INSTA.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
These people who know who they are should just come
forward now. I would imagine as we speak here, there
are a myriad of people who are very nervous. You
can't hide skeletons in the closet forever. I would expect
there are many people out there right now who are
who are desperately searching your memories as they delete your
(16:02):
texts and data.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
We are learning that his Tony Busby's hotline was besieged
with twelve thousand calls and just twenty four hours after
our last program, twelve thousand calls in twenty four hours,
less than twenty four hours. I wonder if any of
those calls were from Hollywood celebrities.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
Listen, if you were attending one of these parties, if
you will, and you attended before, or you knew what
was going to happen. That is, you knew that a
particular drug was being used in drinks that was causing
people to be coerced and taken advantage of, and you
were there in the room, or you participated, or you
(16:45):
watched it happen and didn't say anything, or you helped
cover it up. In my view, you have a problem.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Yeah, that's to you Celebrits in Hollywood. That is Tony
Busby the attorney speaking. And we were given that from
our friend Harvey Levin at TMZ, Lynn Sawe joining me
founder or director LYNZ Warriors Dedicated to Ending Sexual Exploitation.
Lynn twelve thousand thousand calls in twenty four hours after
(17:14):
our last program, Horse Trunk Cocaine rape cocktail dump in Land.
Speaker 6 (17:21):
I don't even know where to start with this, but
bring back doctor Bethany right now because I need a
shrink over this dirty ditty. First of all, let's focus
on this xylazine. Anybody. Has anybody seen the images coming
out of Kensington, Pennsylvania, because that is what traditionally media
shows you. People just flat out in the streets, bend
over from the waste, nobody immobilize, nobody moving.
Speaker 8 (17:43):
Now.
Speaker 6 (17:43):
I know this is a family program, Nancy. However, we
are hearing it's injected also anally mixed with other drugs,
rendering people they can't move, So let's talk about that.
And yes, we work with law enforcement here at the Warriors,
and they tell us this is the biggest thing going
on dea also that they don't know what to do
about this trenk. It makes your skin fall off. We
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have seen this over and over again, so this dirty
diddy doing.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
This to people.
Speaker 6 (18:13):
But again, we have to stick with the facts. So
we've got plenty of facts. We've got twelve thousand people
that have come forward. We always start with that the
Warriors believe the victim and then cut it.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Down from there.
Speaker 6 (18:25):
But twelve thousand and last week we heard thirty to
eighty five. And I also want to focus always on
what we're reported to be miners at the time and
men and boys. We are not putting the focus on
that because we at the Warriors think this may just
be a whole sex trafficking operation geared towards miners and men.
(18:47):
That's what we think.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
You know, I don't see it.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Alex O West joining me investigative an entertainment reporter with
the Mirror.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
I hear what Linna is saying.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
At first, I did not accept that there were child victims,
alleged child victims.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
But then when I saw one after.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
The next, after the next, after the next, and so
on of allegations about particular child victims and how they
were trying to break into the business and they get
to know Combs and then they're assaulted, I mean, are
they all lying? I find that very difficult to believe.
I wonder was it the persona that he projected that
(19:31):
makes you think he would not be interested in children?
Speaker 1 (19:35):
What about it, alex West?
Speaker 5 (19:37):
Well, yeah, I mean one of the things that he
did do in terms of getting close to children, he
was on Sesame Street, so things like that. You have
to remember that he was a mentor to people. At
no point did it seem like, you know, he would
be nefarious towards children, which is why.
Speaker 6 (19:52):
You might be hesitant to believe it.
Speaker 5 (19:54):
But when you look at the numbers, there are allegedly
twenty five miners within the one hundred and twenty that
busby is a place to file and some of those
are very particular stories. So there was a nine year
old a part of these these allegations as well. So,
like you said, we start seeing like a pattern, We
start seeing these stories.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Over and over again.
Speaker 5 (20:12):
And whether or not they're true, I can't speak to.
But we have seen that he was a mentor to
younger people, and that we do know. There's justin Bieber,
there's him peer in a sesame street. There's so many
times of him being around children.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Listen to this.
Speaker 12 (20:25):
In both Adams and Cottam's interviews with the music mogul,
pr Reps kept a close eye on the interview and
always steered the conversations back to Comb's successful business ventures.
Condam says Combs sounded like a child, describing himself as
young and sexy despite being a fifty one year old
father of six. Colum says her profile centered around Combe's
rebrand to Love, which Cottam now calls a psychopath move
(20:49):
to get ahead of the allegations he knew were coming.
Speaker 13 (20:51):
Reports are circulating that a video depicting sex sects between
Sean Didty Combs and a younger male A List celebrities
being shot to several Let's. Sources close to the A
listers say it's triggering, resurfacing disturbing memories for the star.
Those who have seen the video claim it clearly shows
both Combs and the A lister's faces, and it does
(21:12):
not appear the celebrity pictured with Combs realizes they are
being recorded.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Wow, A celebrity, A lister, A young male claiming that
the Didy indictments and all the media swirling around those
indictments is quote triggering.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Him a young male.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
This as Sean Combe's mother drops a bombshell, seemingly blaming
the Feds for her son's allegations and the alleged victims,
blaming the Feds and the victims, referring to the indictment
(21:57):
as a so called lynching. But first back to the
young male A List celeb We keep hearing and seeing
Justin Bieber's name and photo attached to Ditty.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
He is a husband and a new father.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
I'm sure he does not want to be attached to
Sean Puffy Combs.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Listen.
Speaker 14 (22:27):
Justin Bieber's long relationship with Ditty is being examined under
a new light since the disturbing allegations against Sean Colmb's.
Friends close to Bieber say he's finally opening up about
his nightmare experience with the mogul and the private hell
it's caused him. The pop star says he doesn't want
anyone going through what he went through, joining the industry
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at such a young age, claiming years of therapy and
leaning on faith to battle his demons.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
We have been told that Bieber and his wife have
become devout Christians. The last thing he needs is this
dredged up and thrown in his face.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
And I want to be very clear.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
To anyone suggesting that Bieber is somehow the culprit in
this scenario, I believe you are sorely mistaken. Bieber was
just a boy when he was thrown in the pot
with Combs to steal. Take a listen to what happened
with our friend Jimmy Kimmel Live.
Speaker 11 (23:29):
I started to lamb Beginni for a day or two,
any access to the house, and he knows better than
be talking about the things that he does with Big
Brother Puff on national television.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Not funny, Okay, that's when Jimmy Kimmel live back to
Alex West joining US investigative and entertainment reporter with the Mirror.
I don't like seeing Bieber's picture and name bandied about
as if he has done something wrong.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Did you see him in that video. He's a little boy.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
He's just kind of sitting there smiling, And I don't
like the implication of he knows better than me talking
about things he does with Big Brother Puff on national TV.
What was going on that this young boy can't talk about.
I'm curious, Alex.
Speaker 5 (24:19):
Yeah, it's all really been quite kept quiet, even before
these allegations came out. I mean, like you said, he
was told from the very beginning not to speak about it.
There's a video going around as well from when Bieber
was kind of given his custody was given over to Combs,
but not formally, not legally, but he spent those twenty
four to forty eight hours with him, and then Justin
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came out and he has songs where he says that
people saw him sick and no one really cared. He's
very protective of other especially young women in the industry.
Speaker 6 (24:50):
Like Billie Eilish.
Speaker 5 (24:51):
We don't know what happened in those hours, but we
do know it's motivated him to be more protective of
other young people in the industry.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
I'll never forget Alex West having a brush with greatness.
When I was doing Dancing with the Stars and Bieber
came one night, no one, nobody.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Could get close to him.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
He was totally flanked by a phalanx of security and
he was in the middle and I glanced over at him.
He was just a little boy. Let's take a look
at what Alex is talking about.
Speaker 6 (25:28):
Where were hanging out and what we're doing.
Speaker 11 (25:31):
We can't really disclose, but it's definitely a fifteen year
old's dream and we're gonna go full buck ful crazy.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Going crazy. Really. That's from Bieber's YouTube channel.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Okay to you, Lynn Shaw, What does that mean a
fifteen year old's dream?
Speaker 6 (25:52):
Well, I can only imagine, Nancy. But here's I have
a lot of questions. Where were his parents? Number one?
Were of the people around the entourage of this dirty ditty.
Where were Where was everybody to protect this little boy?
He's only thirty years old now, listen, I'm in the
middle of New York City. He used to continually just
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sell out Madison Square Garden. He was it, and he
was preyed upon, he was brought in. But it's not
only you know. I don't like him being put in
the spotlight like this. We can't help it, right, it's
kind of this low hanging fruit and this is the
name being thrown about. But we hear stories of other
boys that were brought into Bad Boy Entertainment right up
the street from me, the old offices, and part of
(26:36):
their audition process was you have to perform oral sex.
That's the reality. So where was everybody? And I really
want to put.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
The apses hold on land Shap.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
We got to having Justin Baber's name in the same
sentence as oral sex with combs. Guys back off. We
keep saying we don't want him to dry Dan Well,
that's dragging him in. But I don't like it because
he clearly has not made a statement. He's just had
(27:08):
a new baby, he started a new life. And wouldn't
you agree, Lynn Shaw that if he had been at
any of the parties, the free coughs. He was a
child himself, being at a party would only be victimizing him.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
That's what I'm.
Speaker 6 (27:25):
Talking about, Nancy. I didn't say he had oral sex.
I said we heard stories of other boys brought into
the offices. That was part of the audition process. So
I'm saying there were so many people involved in this
horrible behavior. But Justin Bieber was the face, the biggest star,
and nobody protected him at these parties, his parents. Where
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was Justin Bieber's management, this scooter braun that's been running around,
Do a little digging deeper on all of these characters
that made a lot of money off of Justin Bieber?
Where was everybody? Why aren't we hearing more about them?
The management team, the PR team, the parents, Okay, other
people at these parties.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Hold on, hold on, hold on, Bethany Marshall, She's right.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
I have a saying, screw you and the horse you
rode in on.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
I don't care about the management and the accountant and
the agent. To hand your child over, your child, your
boy too, Combs. Now, I know his dearest dream was
to break into the industry. I get that, Yes, but
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handing him over to Colms for even a weekend.
Speaker 7 (28:40):
Nancy, that's similar to pimping this little boy out. I mean,
Sean Puffy Combs confesses with every tape, every video, every
interview he gives, it's right there.
Speaker 6 (28:54):
So obviously the mother. I think Justin was raised by
a single mother.
Speaker 7 (28:59):
The mother is seeing these interviews too, isn't she wondering
what P Diddy is referring to a fifteen year old's
dream things we can even talk about here, Nancy? What
if that were your kids and you heard somebody talking
about them like that.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
I mean, okay, you know what, jail, but don't tempt me.
Speaker 6 (29:21):
It's so important. I want to say something very important.
Speaker 7 (29:24):
Whoever this celebrity is, whether it's Justin Bieber or anybody else,
who's terrified of these tapes coming out, it needs to
be clear that these are not tapes of this celebrity
having sex with P Diddy. These are tapes of the
celebrity being raped, raped.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
By P Diddy.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
I want to defend Justin Bieber's mother. Now, yes, I disagree.
I think it was wrong to have Bieber unsupervised with
Sean Combs. However, the mom was uneducated in the ways
of show business. When you have a big star come along,
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just like Jackson did. When you have a big star
come along, take your child under their wings, say I'm
going to make them a star.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Combs was a king.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Maker, and we hear tonight that celebrities and others, potential
witnesses and victims are still afraid of his power, even
behind bars. Before we come down on Bieber's mother, Yeah,
you may.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Not agree with it. Was it wrong?
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Yes, we don't know her thinking. She's not the bad
guy in this scenario. The bad guy is whoever took
advantage of Bieber and exposed him to Frea coughs if
that happened. But don't worry. Tony Busby is not going
to hold back. He is calling people by names and
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outing them.
Speaker 4 (30:50):
Listen, because it's in the best interests of the victim.
We attempt to resolve these matters without the filing of
a public lawsuit, and we have done that already. We've
done that, I would say, you know, with a handful
of individuals, many of which you've heard of before, and
we'll continue to do that. That's just a standard process
that every lawyer in the United States who handles these
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types of cases uses because it's the right way to
do it.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Crime Stories with Nancy gray.
Speaker 14 (31:28):
As the question of how many of Shancombe's friends knew
what was going on in the late hours of his parties.
An incident at a party nearly twenty years ago is resurfacing.
Denzel Washington and his wife Pauletta left a two thousand
and three Didty party after a shouting match with Combs.
It's unclear what started the rope, but it ended with
Washington screaming you don't respect anyone, before escorting his wife out.
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Washington previously commented on Ditty's parties, get out half an
hour before the devil gets here.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Well, it looks like at le one celebrity, a lister
to sel Washington stood up to Ditty, But in the
last hours, Shawn Comes' mom drops a bombshell, seemingly blaming
the FEDS for the.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Indictment and the alleged victims.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Joining me is Brian Fitzgibbons, Director Operations USPA Nationwide Security,
leading a whole fleet of investigators at USPA Security dot Com.
Brian Fitzgibbons the last person that will ever give us
any evidence about Shawncombs is his mother. You ever tried
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to get anything out of a mother I have? It
did not go well.
Speaker 6 (32:41):
We're not going to get anything out of Ditty's mother.
Speaker 15 (32:44):
We've seen this in numerous cases, interviewing family of the
persons suspective of committing a crime, and we're not going
to get anything from her.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
You ever tried to interview a defendant's mom.
Speaker 15 (32:56):
Absolutely, You see this happen time and time again. When
the defendant's mother is there blaming the victim. You know
she's not going to say anything to help investigators. She's
going to only do things to cover up Diddy's actions.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Rayvus Gibbons joining us USPA Nationwide Security. I had a
defendant's mother. They were always on the front row, refusing
to believe anything bad about the defendant, and she was
set to take the stand for the defendant. When I
cross examined her, I thought she was going to jump
on my back and ride me like a chicken around
the courtroom.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Okay, but I.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Had to do what I had to do. She was
a witness. I had to cross her, and I showed
no mercy. Of course, I don't want to make somebody's
mother cry. But when I'm thinking about is it her
or the innocent victims? You have to make a choice, right,
So what's happening and how does that relate to this case?
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Listen?
Speaker 11 (33:53):
Mean it my mom call Mardulis. She's getting a drip
with me. She's what's uping?
Speaker 1 (34:04):
Uh?
Speaker 10 (34:07):
Yeah, I love you too.
Speaker 8 (34:14):
Now she's calling me to strip club.
Speaker 11 (34:16):
I don't care. Real she could touch the floor with
her palms, you know.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Flat Cheryl McCollum joining me, Cold case research investigator, forensic expert.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
Is he doing an IVY drip with his mother? Looks
like it?
Speaker 10 (34:34):
And Nancy, you know, I think some of those twelve
thousand people are gonna say he had things at the men,
like an IVY drip. We're going to see it over
and over these videos. The videos are going to be
a money tree here. And I just want to say
about the videos, this is an old mob tactic. How
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do you command complete silence and loyalty? You implicate everybody
there in the crops, so these people know, Hey, if
he goes down, I go down.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
That's a really good point. I can tell you one
thing I would not be vc woo what go jump in?
Speaker 8 (35:12):
Yeah? I gotta say one thing here about these ivy drips.
Who in the hell is administering the ivy drips? You're
telling me that P Diddy. P Diddy knows how to
start an IV on somebody. You've got people that are involved,
I think probably with at least baseline medical knowledge here.
And this goes back to these drugs being administered. How
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do you get how do you get your hands on
these drugs? How do you know? Why? Why is it
that he would even have IV's in his home, couldn't
minister these drugs? And that makes us even more insidious here.
That you have groups of people, perhaps they're involved in
the helping professions, the healthcare profession that are facilitating this
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activity just on his face is something that is so shocking, okaye.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Coming from regarding the ivys rip, I'm talking about him
taking his mother to his trip club.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Now, let me remind everybody, I am not the church lady.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
I don't care how many strip clubs you go to
and if your mother goes with you to a strip club,
that's not a felony, Okay. What I care about are
insinuations made by his mother. And yes, I'm talking about
you about the victims in this case.
Speaker 13 (36:28):
Listen Diddy's mother, Jannis Combs, has broken her silence on
the allegations with a lengthy statement slamming the quote public
lynching of her son. While Comb's admits her son is
far from perfect and has been less than truthful when
it comes to the violent treatment of his ex girlfriend,
Combs claims Ditty is not guilty of the repulsive allegations
and the grave charges leveled against him. Jannis Combs calls
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the numerous lawsuits against her son, money grabs and the
federal indictment are results of his legal team's poor handling
of Cassie Ventura's lawsuit. Sean Combs may soon find the
symbolic key to the city of Miami Beach won't open
any doors.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
Why you think Sean Puffy Combs gets a flying fig
about the key to the city being taken back, reneged
that's the least to his worries joining me in All
Star panel.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
You know this is very concerning.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
That look, I don't like attacking anybody's little old mom
and the grandma, but uh uh n to Eric fattis
the last thing I want to hear is Shawn Come's
mother referring to this federal indictment as a public lynching
of her son. What about all the alleged victims that
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go to a party, the ladies, the alleged children.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
That go to a party, and these women wake up.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
The next morning with their vagina and their anus aching
and hurting, and they don't remember what happened. And now
somehow he's the one getting lynched.
Speaker 8 (38:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (38:08):
I mean, pretty strong language, of course from Dinny's mother.
She's trying to be a protective mother here, but I
think it loses sight of the gravity of some of
these allegations. And so we have the criminal case and
we also have the civil case.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
Diddy has these two.
Speaker 9 (38:21):
Parallel legal actions that are set to really cripple his
entire empire and potentially put him behind bars for decades
and if not the.
Speaker 8 (38:29):
Rest of his life.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
So his mom is trying to come to his defense.
Speaker 6 (38:32):
I'm not sure it's the most artful way to do it.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Okay, let's just get real about this, doctor Bethany, I
need this in a nutshell. She is blaming the Feds,
calling the indictment a public lynching of him, and she's
also claiming it's all because of Cassie Venturist lawsuit. Uh
huh No, she's saying that because the lawsuit was not
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handled privately because it went public.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
Hey, who's fault?
Speaker 2 (39:00):
Who was running down the hotel hallway and nothing but
a towel meeting the eighteen double l out of Cassie
Ventura her son. So you don't let me pick it
out a grandma, Well, so be it. Bring it on,
Janis comms Nancy.
Speaker 7 (39:15):
Let's reframe this entire discussion. This is not a mother
protecting her son. This is a mother who potentially acted
in concert with her son. We may find out that
she committed crimes too, that she may have been in
that room, if he took her to strip clubs. What's
to preclude him from bringing her into those scenes?
Speaker 6 (39:36):
Those freakofs. Do you know how many.
Speaker 7 (39:38):
Mother sons are put behind bars because they act out
crimes together?
Speaker 6 (39:44):
And the one thing that we're also.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
Mentioning here I do, and the last thing I want
to hear Lynn Shaw is his mother claiming it's all
the victim's fault and Cassie Venture's fault and his legal
team quote poor handling of the Venturia case, and it's the.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
Fed's fault, and it's a victim's fault.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
Wake up, mommy, get your head out of the sand
and your butt out of the air, look at what
is happening, and be quiet. Any words of wisdom, Inshaw?
Speaker 6 (40:17):
Yeah, my words of wisdom are why did Dirty Ditty's
mama even say anything? Why doesn't she just keep her
mouth shut and disappear? I was wondering a couple two
weeks ago. Where is she? She's very quiet. Okay, she's
hiding out now we hear from her. This is so
typical Nancy, always blaming the victim over and over again,
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and the burden always falls on us to prove otherwise.
Why is this guy and his entourage and all these
other accomplices right now being given such slack we're even
hearing yesterday.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
I can tell you this, mist Inshaw, and the light
most favorable to the mother in her misguided effort to
protect her son.
Speaker 1 (40:56):
All mothers would try to protect their child.
Speaker 2 (40:59):
But the lawyer needs to speak to her and tell
her to quit blaming the victim and the Feds and
the legal team and everybody but her own son. Guys,
if you know or think you know anything regarding this case,
the case is still being assembled.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
Eight eight eight three seven three seven.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
Eight eight eight repeat eight eight eight three seven three
seven eight eight eight. We stop and remember Deputy Sheriff
Matthew Eugenie Yates, Clark County Sheriff's Ohio, shot and killed
in the line of duty, served Clark County fifteen years.
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He leaves behind a distraught wife, Tracy, children Anthony Andrew,
and a Kai American hero. Deputy Sheriff Matthew Eugene Yates.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
End of watch
Speaker 2 (42:00):
Betty Grace signing off goodbye friend.
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Did he party cocktail, cocaine and horse trenk that's horse tranquilizer.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Did he actually feed this to his guests?
Speaker 2 (00:19):
This while Shawn Combs's mother drops a bombshell good evening.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
I'm mean, see Grace, this is Crime Stories. Thank you
for being with us.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
The biggest secret in the entertainment industry. The wall of
silence has now been broken.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Victims are coming forward.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
We now represent one hundred and twenty individuals against Sean Diddycombs,
as well as claims against many other individuals and entities.
The names that we're going to name are names that
will shock you.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
We understand that a lot of Hollywood celebrities are shaking
in their boots because they know they are going to
be named, not by the Feds, by the civil lawyer Buzzby.
And remember this, the prosecutors are held to a certain
ethical duty as prosecutors sivil. The civil arena is a
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whole another animal. There is nothing to stop Busby from
naming celebs, taking names.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
And naming them out loud.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
So we're waiting for the other shoe to drop this
as we learn that Diddi's party cocktail that's certainly putting
perfume on the pig. Some people call it the rape cocktail,
their words, not mine, includes cocaine and horse trenk.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Listen several of the individuals, and when I say several,
I mean many who did in fact seek medical treatment.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
We're drug testing and drugs were found in their system.
We're drugs, drugs that you've probably never heard of. One
in particular that continues to pop up is a drug
called xilacy for shrink, which based on our research, is
known as a horse.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Trank, horse tranquilizer. If it knocks out a horse, what
does it do to a lady? Say average way one
oh five to one five? What does that do to
a human being? You heard Tony Busby, the civil lawyer
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who is getting thousands and thousands of calls on a
deity hotline, refer to xylazine known as trenk. It's a
veterinary tranquilizer. It's found in illicit drugs, and this is
what we've learned from.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Speaking to experts.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
It slows breathing, heart rate, blood pressure to dangerously low levels.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
It's very hard to reverse.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Overdose reversal meds like narcan do not reverse the effects
of xylazine. In other words, for instance, Prince when he
odeed on an opiate, possibly fentinel nar can, if he
had had it would have saved his life. If you
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od on xylozine, there is not a drug reversal antidote.
Joining me an all star panel to makes sense of
what we know tonight. But first straight out to Alex
West joining us investigative and entertainment reporter with the Mirror.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Alex, thank you for being with.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Us horse trunk and cocaine at a party and guest
reportedly didn't know that they were being drugged with that.
Speaker 5 (03:42):
Yeah, we've heard that over and over again in all
this not all, but at least a good part of
the civil lawsuit stuff come forward so far. We don't
yet know how many of the one and twenty that
Busby is planning on filing.
Speaker 6 (03:54):
We'll involve those drugs.
Speaker 5 (03:57):
It's also worth noting that when did he was over
us sit in the hotel room, allegedly there was a
pink powder, an unidentified pink powder that was found in
his hotel room.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Doctor Bethany Marshall joining me.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Renown psycho analysts joining us out of LA author of
deal breaker. You can see her now on pecot Bethany.
I think twice before I even take a baby aster
for Pete's sake.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
It's one thing if you take the drugs, but.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Drugging someone else, especially without their knowledge, and using something
as volatile as this drug xylazine I believe it's called.
Speaker 6 (04:31):
Well, keep in mind the.
Speaker 7 (04:32):
Xylazine because it's a horse tranquilizer causes amnesia, what we
call antrolgrade amisia, meaning that the victim won't remember what
happened while they are on that drug, and the cocaine
keeps them active enough that they can participate in sex
acts outside of their conscious awareness. So this is a
very sinister thing to do to people. And then remember
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he was taping the victims the whole time. So who
would do this a psychopath, associate, path, somebody who has
no regard for others, somebody who's a sadist as we've
been talking about that the infliction of cruelty makes him
sexually aroused, that he enjoys doing that and putting them
in humiliating positions. And then Nancy's stalking them after this
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because once he tapes them on the xylazine and the cocaine.
It appears as if they're voluntarily participating in the sex
acts so that he can use that video against them
and stalk them for the rest of their lives.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Eric Fantasy is joining me.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Are now in trial lawyer, TV Legal analyst, partner at
Varner Fattist Elite Legal, former felony prosecutor.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Eric, thank you for being with us.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
We keep hearing about sex attacks on victims, but here
this is a serious aggravated assault. We typically think under
the law of aggravated assaults, which in MENI jurisdictions carry
twenty to life behind bars, as shooting somebody with a
gun or stabbing them they live. It's described as putting
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someone in fear of serious bodily harm, immediate fear. But
in this case, it's not a knife, it's not a gun.
It's horse trunk mixed with cocaine. That's the allegation. That's
a whole another set of felony charges that if this
has proven, could nail ditty.
Speaker 8 (06:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (06:28):
Now, I mean the allegations are pretty senisor here, and
the difference is that they're allegend that it's sexual assault
by co worship, so overcoming someone's will and that's where
these drugs come into play. Allegedly, they allowed ditty to
make sure that the victim could not consent, but also
could not defend themselves, really didn't know exactly what was
going on, but was present enough to participate in the
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alleged sex acts. And so yeah, that is the allegation here,
and it's certainly problematic for doing.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Joining me right now.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Death investigator for forensics at Jacksonville State University, author of
Blood Beneath My Feet and star of a hit series
Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan. Just Scott, what is
horse trying? I mean, look, if it knocks out a horse,
what will it do to a person?
Speaker 8 (07:16):
Take them down to their knees? Nancy, Xylazine is specifically
what they're referring to in this particular case, and so
it's used. It's a non opiate related substance. So you're
not talking about something necessarily like a sentinel here, like
some kind of synthetic synthetic opiate. What we're talking about
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is something that is expressly meant to use on equines,
which are horses, in order to sedate them for surgery.
So yeah, it can be. And here's another thing, with zoli.
It can in fact be mixed with fentanyl, which makes
it particularly dangerous. And they're seeing this out on the
streets now, So this is something that's been around for minutes,
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but it is something that certainly the DEA is aware of.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Guys joining me is death investigator, forensic expert just gott
Morgan now joining me. Cheryl McCollum joining us from the field,
also forensic expert, host of a hit series Zone seven,
and founder of.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
The Cold Case Research Institute. Cheryl, help me think this through.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
My immediate reaction is, you can't prove it to a
reasonable doubt, beyond a reasonable doubt, so.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Don't put it in the pot.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
You know how it ruins the case when you have
one week link the week's sister in the case.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
You have to get rid of that, you have to
cut it out.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
But is there a way to prove to prove it,
not just rumor not just any into not what one
thousand people say, It doesn't matter because if they don't
know what the substance is clinically scientifically, Look, let me
put it like this. Okay, when I try a coat case, Okay,
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we'd do a bus there'd be a drug lord, we'd
find the false wall. The fake wall would find all
the money and the drugs behind the wall. The dog
would find it. I can't just say, hey, I found
a bunch of white powder.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Convict him.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
All the defense would have to do is say, you
know what he hoards baby powder? You think can say anything,
But if you can't prove what the substance was, you
don't have a case. Did you hear what Joe Scott
Morgan just said that at the raid on Diddy's home.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
What if that yielded horse trank? What can we do
with that?
Speaker 10 (09:47):
Cheryl McCollum, There's four things you can weave together. One,
some of these victims salt medical treatment, those medical records
and the result of that blood work they can get.
Got eyewitnesses at these parties, perhaps they saw it. Number Three,
you've got the person that made the purchase. Keep in mind,
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did he didn't go out on the street and get
cocaine and trunk? He didn't. And all these folks that
are associated with him that are now under this microscope,
they are going to learn. Whoever talks first gets the deal.
Somebody may very well come forward and explain what went
down on top of what was sees during these raids,
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So all four of those things can paint again.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Cheryl, Cheryl, Cheryl, Cheryl.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
I can have fifty cops say I saw him sell
a hit, but if it's not tested at the laft, Cheryl,
you still don't have a case.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Period. I hear what you're saying. Do you know he
used it? Yes? Do I believe he used horse train convictims? Yes?
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Does Joe Scott Yes? Did they find it in his mansion?
Maybe let's just pretend yes. I still can't prove what
substance was administered to those partygoers unless they were tested
at the hospital and it.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Showed up crime stories with Nancy Grace, Just got Morgan
joining me.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
I want to follow up, and I appreciate what you said, Cheryl,
And yes, I would put it on my board proving guilt.
But it's not enough to bring a horse trank case.
It's just not enough against Diddy. We have to be realistic.
We don't want to ruin the rest of the case. Again,
Just got Morgan. I'm talking about horse trunk being used
on these victims without their knowledge.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
What about this?
Speaker 2 (11:50):
A horse trank victim has stated and I'll only call
her Jessica, it eats your skin away and you just
have a hole and then it leaves a scar. I know,
horse train can cause ulcers, can cause actually like holes
in your skin.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Why.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
I mean, look, my first cousin is a horse trainer.
Horses are huge. How much do they weigh, Jackie? I
mean hundreds and hundreds of pounds? You know about Google, right,
what Liz oh, dear Lord in Heaven, two thousand pounds.
If that can knock out a horse, what does it
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do to a person? So why would this trunk cause ulcers? Cause,
as Jessica said, holes in her skin.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
I'm going to tell you I have.
Speaker 8 (12:41):
Not heard this before, but I have heard something similar
to this, and I know that covering drug cases, you've
encountered this with people that use injectables. If they skin pop,
for instance, which means they don't go into a vein,
they actually go into the subc fat and they start
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to inject. This way, you can have ulcerated areas that
will appear. So was this drug being administered with a syringe?
Because I got to tell you it doesn't sound like
the normal course when you're trying to administer something that
is the equivalent of it's serving the same function as
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a date breaking drug, so you would administer it orally.
So is she saying that it burned a hole in
her mouth. I've had cocaine overdoses before, when people quote
with chronic cocaine problems that died and the septument the
nose would ulcerate and you would have that kind of reaction,
But that's over a protracted period of time. This almost
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sounds like if that's what she If we are to believe.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
The streame Michael Jackson and his nose falling apart.
Speaker 8 (13:50):
Well, no, I think that that. Maybe I can't speak
to that, but I know for a fact I've done
or participated in investigations and autop with individuals that had
eroded septims as a result of what they were saying.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
This symptom is that cartilage in the middle of your nose, right.
Speaker 8 (14:10):
That's split your nostrils into yeah, and so you'll get
that ulcerated area there. But many times, you know, because
these drugs are cut with things, all right, you don't
know what the agent is in there that they're cutting it.
And the idea here is just so our friends understand,
they try to extend the life of the drug that
they have, so you don't know what the skin is
coming in contact with. Nancy.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Well, this is what I know, Joe Scott from the
National Institute on Drug Abuse. Xylazin, which is horse trunk,
which reportedly did he's feeding to his guests in order
to sex assault them unbeknownst to them, is associated with
skin wounds, open sorees, ulcers, and abscesses. Now, while his
(14:56):
party victims are suffering potential skin wounds, open sores, and obsesses,
he's not worried.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
He's relaxing with some mango people. Check it out with
the back up.
Speaker 7 (15:12):
I ain't expect I don't want it.
Speaker 11 (15:15):
I wanted bet you know me, I allow myself to
not have lingo.
Speaker 8 (15:26):
I don't know long way no better.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Thanks Diddy for that INSTA.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
These people who know who they are should just come
forward now. I would imagine as we speak here, there
are a myriad of people who are very nervous. You
can't hide skeletons in the closet forever. I would expect
there are many people out there right now who are
who are desperately searching your memories as they delete your
(16:02):
texts and data.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
We are learning that his Tony Busby's hotline was besieged
with twelve thousand calls and just twenty four hours after
our last program, twelve thousand calls in twenty four hours,
less than twenty four hours. I wonder if any of
those calls were from Hollywood celebrities.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
Listen, if you were attending one of these parties, if
you will, and you attended before, or you knew what
was going to happen. That is, you knew that a
particular drug was being used in drinks that was causing
people to be coerced and taken advantage of, and you
were there in the room, or you participated, or you
(16:45):
watched it happen and didn't say anything, or you helped
cover it up. In my view, you have a problem.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Yeah, that's to you Celebrits in Hollywood. That is Tony
Busby the attorney speaking. And we were given that from
our friend Harvey Levin at TMZ, Lynn Sawe joining me
founder or director LYNZ Warriors Dedicated to Ending Sexual Exploitation.
Lynn twelve thousand thousand calls in twenty four hours after
(17:14):
our last program, Horse Trunk Cocaine rape cocktail dump in Land.
Speaker 6 (17:21):
I don't even know where to start with this, but
bring back doctor Bethany right now because I need a
shrink over this dirty ditty. First of all, let's focus
on this xylazine. Anybody. Has anybody seen the images coming
out of Kensington, Pennsylvania, because that is what traditionally media
shows you. People just flat out in the streets, bend
over from the waste, nobody immobilize, nobody moving.
Speaker 8 (17:43):
Now.
Speaker 6 (17:43):
I know this is a family program, Nancy. However, we
are hearing it's injected also anally mixed with other drugs,
rendering people they can't move, So let's talk about that.
And yes, we work with law enforcement here at the Warriors,
and they tell us this is the biggest thing going
on dea also that they don't know what to do
about this trenk. It makes your skin fall off. We
(18:07):
have seen this over and over again, so this dirty
diddy doing.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
This to people.
Speaker 6 (18:13):
But again, we have to stick with the facts. So
we've got plenty of facts. We've got twelve thousand people
that have come forward. We always start with that the
Warriors believe the victim and then cut it.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Down from there.
Speaker 6 (18:25):
But twelve thousand and last week we heard thirty to
eighty five. And I also want to focus always on
what we're reported to be miners at the time and
men and boys. We are not putting the focus on
that because we at the Warriors think this may just
be a whole sex trafficking operation geared towards miners and men.
(18:47):
That's what we think.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
You know, I don't see it.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Alex O West joining me investigative an entertainment reporter with
the Mirror.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
I hear what Linna is saying.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
At first, I did not accept that there were child victims,
alleged child victims.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
But then when I saw one after.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
The next, after the next, after the next, and so
on of allegations about particular child victims and how they
were trying to break into the business and they get
to know Combs and then they're assaulted, I mean, are
they all lying? I find that very difficult to believe.
I wonder was it the persona that he projected that
(19:31):
makes you think he would not be interested in children?
Speaker 1 (19:35):
What about it, alex West?
Speaker 5 (19:37):
Well, yeah, I mean one of the things that he
did do in terms of getting close to children, he
was on Sesame Street, so things like that. You have
to remember that he was a mentor to people. At
no point did it seem like, you know, he would
be nefarious towards children, which is why.
Speaker 6 (19:52):
You might be hesitant to believe it.
Speaker 5 (19:54):
But when you look at the numbers, there are allegedly
twenty five miners within the one hundred and twenty that
busby is a place to file and some of those
are very particular stories. So there was a nine year
old a part of these these allegations as well. So,
like you said, we start seeing like a pattern, We
start seeing these stories.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Over and over again.
Speaker 5 (20:12):
And whether or not they're true, I can't speak to.
But we have seen that he was a mentor to
younger people, and that we do know. There's justin Bieber,
there's him peer in a sesame street. There's so many
times of him being around children.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Listen to this.
Speaker 12 (20:25):
In both Adams and Cottam's interviews with the music mogul,
pr Reps kept a close eye on the interview and
always steered the conversations back to Comb's successful business ventures.
Condam says Combs sounded like a child, describing himself as
young and sexy despite being a fifty one year old
father of six. Colum says her profile centered around Combe's
rebrand to Love, which Cottam now calls a psychopath move
(20:49):
to get ahead of the allegations he knew were coming.
Speaker 13 (20:51):
Reports are circulating that a video depicting sex sects between
Sean Didty Combs and a younger male A List celebrities
being shot to several Let's. Sources close to the A
listers say it's triggering, resurfacing disturbing memories for the star.
Those who have seen the video claim it clearly shows
both Combs and the A lister's faces, and it does
(21:12):
not appear the celebrity pictured with Combs realizes they are
being recorded.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Wow, A celebrity, A lister, A young male claiming that
the Didy indictments and all the media swirling around those
indictments is quote triggering.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Him a young male.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
This as Sean Combe's mother drops a bombshell, seemingly blaming
the Feds for her son's allegations and the alleged victims,
blaming the Feds and the victims, referring to the indictment
(21:57):
as a so called lynching. But first back to the
young male A List celeb We keep hearing and seeing
Justin Bieber's name and photo attached to Ditty.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
He is a husband and a new father.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
I'm sure he does not want to be attached to
Sean Puffy Combs.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Listen.
Speaker 14 (22:27):
Justin Bieber's long relationship with Ditty is being examined under
a new light since the disturbing allegations against Sean Colmb's.
Friends close to Bieber say he's finally opening up about
his nightmare experience with the mogul and the private hell
it's caused him. The pop star says he doesn't want
anyone going through what he went through, joining the industry
(22:49):
at such a young age, claiming years of therapy and
leaning on faith to battle his demons.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
We have been told that Bieber and his wife have
become devout Christians. The last thing he needs is this
dredged up and thrown in his face.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
And I want to be very clear.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
To anyone suggesting that Bieber is somehow the culprit in
this scenario, I believe you are sorely mistaken. Bieber was
just a boy when he was thrown in the pot
with Combs to steal. Take a listen to what happened
with our friend Jimmy Kimmel Live.
Speaker 11 (23:29):
I started to lamb Beginni for a day or two,
any access to the house, and he knows better than
be talking about the things that he does with Big
Brother Puff on national television.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Not funny, Okay, that's when Jimmy Kimmel live back to
Alex West joining US investigative and entertainment reporter with the Mirror.
I don't like seeing Bieber's picture and name bandied about
as if he has done something wrong.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Did you see him in that video. He's a little boy.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
He's just kind of sitting there smiling, And I don't
like the implication of he knows better than me talking
about things he does with Big Brother Puff on national TV.
What was going on that this young boy can't talk about.
I'm curious, Alex.
Speaker 5 (24:19):
Yeah, it's all really been quite kept quiet, even before
these allegations came out. I mean, like you said, he
was told from the very beginning not to speak about it.
There's a video going around as well from when Bieber
was kind of given his custody was given over to Combs,
but not formally, not legally, but he spent those twenty
four to forty eight hours with him, and then Justin
(24:41):
came out and he has songs where he says that
people saw him sick and no one really cared. He's
very protective of other especially young women in the industry.
Speaker 6 (24:50):
Like Billie Eilish.
Speaker 5 (24:51):
We don't know what happened in those hours, but we
do know it's motivated him to be more protective of
other young people in the industry.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
I'll never forget Alex West having a brush with greatness.
When I was doing Dancing with the Stars and Bieber
came one night, no one, nobody.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Could get close to him.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
He was totally flanked by a phalanx of security and
he was in the middle and I glanced over at him.
He was just a little boy. Let's take a look
at what Alex is talking about.
Speaker 6 (25:28):
Where were hanging out and what we're doing.
Speaker 11 (25:31):
We can't really disclose, but it's definitely a fifteen year
old's dream and we're gonna go full buck ful crazy.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Going crazy. Really. That's from Bieber's YouTube channel.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Okay to you, Lynn Shaw, What does that mean a
fifteen year old's dream?
Speaker 6 (25:52):
Well, I can only imagine, Nancy. But here's I have
a lot of questions. Where were his parents? Number one?
Were of the people around the entourage of this dirty ditty.
Where were Where was everybody to protect this little boy?
He's only thirty years old now, listen, I'm in the
middle of New York City. He used to continually just
(26:14):
sell out Madison Square Garden. He was it, and he
was preyed upon, he was brought in. But it's not
only you know. I don't like him being put in
the spotlight like this. We can't help it, right, it's
kind of this low hanging fruit and this is the
name being thrown about. But we hear stories of other
boys that were brought into Bad Boy Entertainment right up
the street from me, the old offices, and part of
(26:36):
their audition process was you have to perform oral sex.
That's the reality. So where was everybody? And I really
want to put.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
The apses hold on land Shap.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
We got to having Justin Baber's name in the same
sentence as oral sex with combs. Guys back off. We
keep saying we don't want him to dry Dan Well,
that's dragging him in. But I don't like it because
he clearly has not made a statement. He's just had
(27:08):
a new baby, he started a new life. And wouldn't
you agree, Lynn Shaw that if he had been at
any of the parties, the free coughs. He was a
child himself, being at a party would only be victimizing him.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
That's what I'm.
Speaker 6 (27:25):
Talking about, Nancy. I didn't say he had oral sex.
I said we heard stories of other boys brought into
the offices. That was part of the audition process. So
I'm saying there were so many people involved in this
horrible behavior. But Justin Bieber was the face, the biggest star,
and nobody protected him at these parties, his parents. Where
(27:47):
was Justin Bieber's management, this scooter braun that's been running around,
Do a little digging deeper on all of these characters
that made a lot of money off of Justin Bieber?
Where was everybody? Why aren't we hearing more about them?
The management team, the PR team, the parents, Okay, other
people at these parties.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Hold on, hold on, hold on, Bethany Marshall, She's right.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
I have a saying, screw you and the horse you
rode in on.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
I don't care about the management and the accountant and
the agent. To hand your child over, your child, your
boy too, Combs. Now, I know his dearest dream was
to break into the industry. I get that, Yes, but
(28:36):
handing him over to Colms for even a weekend.
Speaker 7 (28:40):
Nancy, that's similar to pimping this little boy out. I mean,
Sean Puffy Combs confesses with every tape, every video, every
interview he gives, it's right there.
Speaker 6 (28:54):
So obviously the mother. I think Justin was raised by
a single mother.
Speaker 7 (28:59):
The mother is seeing these interviews too, isn't she wondering
what P Diddy is referring to a fifteen year old's
dream things we can even talk about here, Nancy? What
if that were your kids and you heard somebody talking
about them like that.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
I mean, okay, you know what, jail, but don't tempt me.
Speaker 6 (29:21):
It's so important. I want to say something very important.
Speaker 7 (29:24):
Whoever this celebrity is, whether it's Justin Bieber or anybody else,
who's terrified of these tapes coming out, it needs to
be clear that these are not tapes of this celebrity
having sex with P Diddy. These are tapes of the
celebrity being raped, raped.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
By P Diddy.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
I want to defend Justin Bieber's mother. Now, yes, I disagree.
I think it was wrong to have Bieber unsupervised with
Sean Combs. However, the mom was uneducated in the ways
of show business. When you have a big star come along,
(30:02):
just like Jackson did. When you have a big star
come along, take your child under their wings, say I'm
going to make them a star.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Combs was a king.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Maker, and we hear tonight that celebrities and others, potential
witnesses and victims are still afraid of his power, even
behind bars. Before we come down on Bieber's mother, Yeah,
you may.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Not agree with it. Was it wrong?
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Yes, we don't know her thinking. She's not the bad
guy in this scenario. The bad guy is whoever took
advantage of Bieber and exposed him to Frea coughs if
that happened. But don't worry. Tony Busby is not going
to hold back. He is calling people by names and
(30:49):
outing them.
Speaker 4 (30:50):
Listen, because it's in the best interests of the victim.
We attempt to resolve these matters without the filing of
a public lawsuit, and we have done that already. We've
done that, I would say, you know, with a handful
of individuals, many of which you've heard of before, and
we'll continue to do that. That's just a standard process
that every lawyer in the United States who handles these
(31:11):
types of cases uses because it's the right way to
do it.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Crime Stories with Nancy gray.
Speaker 14 (31:28):
As the question of how many of Shancombe's friends knew
what was going on in the late hours of his parties.
An incident at a party nearly twenty years ago is resurfacing.
Denzel Washington and his wife Pauletta left a two thousand
and three Didty party after a shouting match with Combs.
It's unclear what started the rope, but it ended with
Washington screaming you don't respect anyone, before escorting his wife out.
(31:52):
Washington previously commented on Ditty's parties, get out half an
hour before the devil gets here.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Well, it looks like at le one celebrity, a lister
to sel Washington stood up to Ditty, But in the
last hours, Shawn Comes' mom drops a bombshell, seemingly blaming
the FEDS for the.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Indictment and the alleged victims.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Joining me is Brian Fitzgibbons, Director Operations USPA Nationwide Security,
leading a whole fleet of investigators at USPA Security dot Com.
Brian Fitzgibbons the last person that will ever give us
any evidence about Shawncombs is his mother. You ever tried
(32:38):
to get anything out of a mother I have? It
did not go well.
Speaker 6 (32:41):
We're not going to get anything out of Ditty's mother.
Speaker 15 (32:44):
We've seen this in numerous cases, interviewing family of the
persons suspective of committing a crime, and we're not going
to get anything from her.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
You ever tried to interview a defendant's mom.
Speaker 15 (32:56):
Absolutely, You see this happen time and time again. When
the defendant's mother is there blaming the victim. You know
she's not going to say anything to help investigators. She's
going to only do things to cover up Diddy's actions.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Rayvus Gibbons joining us USPA Nationwide Security. I had a
defendant's mother. They were always on the front row, refusing
to believe anything bad about the defendant, and she was
set to take the stand for the defendant. When I
cross examined her, I thought she was going to jump
on my back and ride me like a chicken around
the courtroom.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Okay, but I.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Had to do what I had to do. She was
a witness. I had to cross her, and I showed
no mercy. Of course, I don't want to make somebody's
mother cry. But when I'm thinking about is it her
or the innocent victims? You have to make a choice, right,
So what's happening and how does that relate to this case?
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Listen?
Speaker 11 (33:53):
Mean it my mom call Mardulis. She's getting a drip
with me. She's what's uping?
Speaker 1 (34:04):
Uh?
Speaker 10 (34:07):
Yeah, I love you too.
Speaker 8 (34:14):
Now she's calling me to strip club.
Speaker 11 (34:16):
I don't care. Real she could touch the floor with
her palms, you know.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Flat Cheryl McCollum joining me, Cold case research investigator, forensic expert.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
Is he doing an IVY drip with his mother? Looks
like it?
Speaker 10 (34:34):
And Nancy, you know, I think some of those twelve
thousand people are gonna say he had things at the men,
like an IVY drip. We're going to see it over
and over these videos. The videos are going to be
a money tree here. And I just want to say
about the videos, this is an old mob tactic. How
(34:55):
do you command complete silence and loyalty? You implicate everybody
there in the crops, so these people know, Hey, if
he goes down, I go down.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
That's a really good point. I can tell you one
thing I would not be vc woo what go jump in?
Speaker 8 (35:12):
Yeah? I gotta say one thing here about these ivy drips.
Who in the hell is administering the ivy drips? You're
telling me that P Diddy. P Diddy knows how to
start an IV on somebody. You've got people that are involved,
I think probably with at least baseline medical knowledge here.
And this goes back to these drugs being administered. How
(35:35):
do you get how do you get your hands on
these drugs? How do you know? Why? Why is it
that he would even have IV's in his home, couldn't
minister these drugs? And that makes us even more insidious here.
That you have groups of people, perhaps they're involved in
the helping professions, the healthcare profession that are facilitating this
(35:55):
activity just on his face is something that is so shocking, okaye.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Coming from regarding the ivys rip, I'm talking about him
taking his mother to his trip club.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Now, let me remind everybody, I am not the church lady.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
I don't care how many strip clubs you go to
and if your mother goes with you to a strip club,
that's not a felony, Okay. What I care about are
insinuations made by his mother. And yes, I'm talking about
you about the victims in this case.
Speaker 13 (36:28):
Listen Diddy's mother, Jannis Combs, has broken her silence on
the allegations with a lengthy statement slamming the quote public
lynching of her son. While Comb's admits her son is
far from perfect and has been less than truthful when
it comes to the violent treatment of his ex girlfriend,
Combs claims Ditty is not guilty of the repulsive allegations
and the grave charges leveled against him. Jannis Combs calls
(36:51):
the numerous lawsuits against her son, money grabs and the
federal indictment are results of his legal team's poor handling
of Cassie Ventura's lawsuit. Sean Combs may soon find the
symbolic key to the city of Miami Beach won't open
any doors.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
Why you think Sean Puffy Combs gets a flying fig
about the key to the city being taken back, reneged
that's the least to his worries joining me in All
Star panel.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
You know this is very concerning.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
That look, I don't like attacking anybody's little old mom
and the grandma, but uh uh n to Eric fattis
the last thing I want to hear is Shawn Come's
mother referring to this federal indictment as a public lynching
of her son. What about all the alleged victims that
(37:49):
go to a party, the ladies, the alleged children.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
That go to a party, and these women wake up.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
The next morning with their vagina and their anus aching
and hurting, and they don't remember what happened. And now
somehow he's the one getting lynched.
Speaker 8 (38:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (38:08):
I mean, pretty strong language, of course from Dinny's mother.
She's trying to be a protective mother here, but I
think it loses sight of the gravity of some of
these allegations. And so we have the criminal case and
we also have the civil case.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
Diddy has these two.
Speaker 9 (38:21):
Parallel legal actions that are set to really cripple his
entire empire and potentially put him behind bars for decades
and if not the.
Speaker 8 (38:29):
Rest of his life.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
So his mom is trying to come to his defense.
Speaker 6 (38:32):
I'm not sure it's the most artful way to do it.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Okay, let's just get real about this, doctor Bethany, I
need this in a nutshell. She is blaming the Feds,
calling the indictment a public lynching of him, and she's
also claiming it's all because of Cassie Venturist lawsuit. Uh
huh No, she's saying that because the lawsuit was not
(38:55):
handled privately because it went public.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
Hey, who's fault?
Speaker 2 (39:00):
Who was running down the hotel hallway and nothing but
a towel meeting the eighteen double l out of Cassie
Ventura her son. So you don't let me pick it
out a grandma, Well, so be it. Bring it on,
Janis comms Nancy.
Speaker 7 (39:15):
Let's reframe this entire discussion. This is not a mother
protecting her son. This is a mother who potentially acted
in concert with her son. We may find out that
she committed crimes too, that she may have been in
that room, if he took her to strip clubs. What's
to preclude him from bringing her into those scenes?
Speaker 6 (39:36):
Those freakofs. Do you know how many.
Speaker 7 (39:38):
Mother sons are put behind bars because they act out
crimes together?
Speaker 6 (39:44):
And the one thing that we're also.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
Mentioning here I do, and the last thing I want
to hear Lynn Shaw is his mother claiming it's all
the victim's fault and Cassie Venture's fault and his legal
team quote poor handling of the Venturia case, and it's the.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
Fed's fault, and it's a victim's fault.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
Wake up, mommy, get your head out of the sand
and your butt out of the air, look at what
is happening, and be quiet. Any words of wisdom, Inshaw?
Speaker 6 (40:17):
Yeah, my words of wisdom are why did Dirty Ditty's
mama even say anything? Why doesn't she just keep her
mouth shut and disappear? I was wondering a couple two
weeks ago. Where is she? She's very quiet. Okay, she's
hiding out now we hear from her. This is so
typical Nancy, always blaming the victim over and over again,
(40:37):
and the burden always falls on us to prove otherwise.
Why is this guy and his entourage and all these
other accomplices right now being given such slack we're even
hearing yesterday.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
I can tell you this, mist Inshaw, and the light
most favorable to the mother in her misguided effort to
protect her son.
Speaker 1 (40:56):
All mothers would try to protect their child.
Speaker 2 (40:59):
But the lawyer needs to speak to her and tell
her to quit blaming the victim and the Feds and
the legal team and everybody but her own son. Guys,
if you know or think you know anything regarding this case,
the case is still being assembled.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
Eight eight eight three seven three seven.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
Eight eight eight repeat eight eight eight three seven three
seven eight eight eight. We stop and remember Deputy Sheriff
Matthew Eugenie Yates, Clark County Sheriff's Ohio, shot and killed
in the line of duty, served Clark County fifteen years.
(41:44):
He leaves behind a distraught wife, Tracy, children Anthony Andrew,
and a Kai American hero. Deputy Sheriff Matthew Eugene Yates.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
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Speaker 2 (42:00):
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