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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Did he to sell out Madison Square Gardens over my
cold dead body? I'm Nancy Grace, this is Crime Stories.
I want to thank you for being with us. Guess
what did? He doesn't like being behind bars? Where are
Seawn comes?
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Right now?
Speaker 3 (00:25):
He's in jail.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Oh okay, So he didn't get off and that's a
very poor choice of words.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
So he didn't get off.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
He's behind bars Madison Square Garden.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
That's a jolt to the system. Whoa wa wah, wha wait.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
Let me refresh that question to Rob Shooter joining us,
former publicist for Sean Combs, p R guru, host of
Naughty but Nice podcast at Robshooter dot substack dot com.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Did I get it all, Rob Shooter? Or need I
go on? He is still behind bars?
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Right?
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Yes, that's a yes?
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Absolutely Okay?
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Then how is he planning a sellout at Madison Square Garden.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
In the world of Dida, reality often isn't something that
he considers. What he's talking about here is that when
he finally can do this, he wants to do a
big comeback show. And we should take credit here. Nancy.
We broke this story four or five weeks ago on
your show. On this show, we broke this story. Sources
were telling me that he's planning a massive comeback. He
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thinks he has won this Nancy and when he finally
can get out of jail, we don't know how long
that's going to be. Don't expect him to disappear. He's
going to come back with a bank.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
What I'm saying, Shooter, is that to appear at Madison
Square Garden, you.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Have to pre plan. You have to get your show together.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
You've got to get your songs, you've got to get
your backup, you got to get your musicians, you got
to get sure pyrotechnics or whatever you're going to do,
and you have to get tickets out there. And he's
actually doing it.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Listen.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
He said to me, he's going to be back in
Madison Square Guarden doing what I guess, being on stage,
you know. I mean then I said I'll be there.
I mean, I wasn't going to be right in the front.
So we'll see, we'll make it happen.
Speaker 6 (02:21):
Sean Diddy. Colmbs is apparently planning a resurrection tour, telling
his attorneys he plans to eventually sell out Madison Square Garden.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Again, that's the defense attorney Agniffilow talking to our friends
at CBS, and yes, I pooh poohed him when he
was part of comparing Sean Combs to MLK and going on, hey,
let's pull up that clip from him duking it out
with Harvey Levin. It wasn't much of a duke fast
because Levin was throwing him softballs, which he missed, by
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the way, But I got to give the devil is due.
He did get Diddy off on three the five felony counts,
and now he's back talking about selling out Madison Square
Garden joining me an all star panel. But first two
TASA Tales, joining us investigative reporter. She's a star of
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Tasa Tales on YouTube. Tisa what exactly, Nancy?
Speaker 3 (03:18):
What in the world?
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Listen.
Speaker 7 (03:20):
One funny thing that came out there is did He's
My sourcers.
Speaker 8 (03:23):
Are telling me that Didny's team is putting it out
there because he needs to prove to the public, to
himself and even a Trump to get that pardon that
he is still.
Speaker 9 (03:33):
Loved the fact that his lawyer got on TV and
said he's going to be on Madison Square Garden Now,
if you look at his record cells, if you look
at his concert sales, if you look at.
Speaker 7 (03:43):
The way his last album flopped, it's laughable.
Speaker 8 (03:46):
However, keep in mind it was so laughable and oddly
enough and enraged the.
Speaker 7 (03:51):
Public and victims so much that Diddy's.
Speaker 8 (03:54):
Team the next day had to do a PR walk
back saying, oh, no, no, no, no, no, Maybe not Madison Square Garden.
I think he's just going to focus on being a
father to his children. And by children, I mean the
three boys that are pushing thirty years old, and of
course the girls that are at a young age, but
at eighteen years old. Diddy's team is a little bit
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shaken up the way that he kind of thought that
if he beat these charges, he was going to be
walking back in and embraced by these open arms. Maybe
his PR team PR is a little bit too hard,
and did he started believing his own height.
Speaker 7 (04:29):
But he was my sourcier saying, Diddy's team was shocked
at the level of anger that that Madison Square Garden
actually invoked. With the general public. You're in there telling us.
Speaker 8 (04:39):
You're going to be the Martin Luther King of domestic
violence and free everybody from their evil thoughts.
Speaker 7 (04:44):
You're saying you're going to make a difference. You're telling
us you're repented, you're going to take.
Speaker 8 (04:48):
Time to think, and within what was it, not even
two fourteen business days, you've thrown all that out and
you're sitting there bragging to everyone before the judge even
has said that you're going to be up on Madison
Square Garden again. A lot of people took that as
a threat, and it looks like Diddy's team is trying
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to walk that back into something that looks more family friendly.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Okay, they may be doing that, but Kat's out of
the bag. They've already made it public. He plans to
sell out MSG to doctor Bethany Marshall, joining us renown
psycho analyst out of La, author of deal Breaker on Amazon.
You can see her on Peacock and find her at
doctor Bethany Marshall dot com. Doctor Bethany. I'm going to
go in a moment to Danny Pinter, who is with
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the National Center on Sex Exploitation. But it just rubs
me the wrong way, all right, Yes, I know. Agnifilo
and his team got Diddy off on three charges. He's
still convicted on two felonies. I know that, but I
saw the Cassie Ventior tape. I know what the victim said,
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and there are many many more victims that the state
did not use. And that's on them all right. I
was told over and over as a trial lawyer, overkill, overkill,
you're putting up too much evidence to get a conviction.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
How do you know that until after the trial.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
You have one swing at the ball, one bite of
the apple, and if you don't go all the way,
you could lose the case. I think there was a
lot more victims. There were a lot more victims, and
there was a lot more evidence.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
They could have put up. They paired their.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Case down, and now they're reaping what they sewed. That said,
we know what the evidence is, Bethany. We know about
all the civil lawsuits. Even if you throw out half
of them, Even if you throw out half, you've.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Still got dozens and dozens of women.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
That say they were drugged and raped at these parties,
the free Coughs.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
I saw what happened to Cassie. I saw the bruises.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
I heard the stories of when one victim would vomit
after being paddled to multiple male sex workers.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
He would put it right back.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Into the free cough, put on some makeup over those bruises,
and get back in the ring.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
I know all that.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
And for him to be bragging he's going to sell
out Madison Square Garden, it's offensive.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
It's offensive, Nancy.
Speaker 7 (07:25):
And everybody who would attend that concert, I don't believe
that concert will ever take place, would be somebody who
does collude with sex trafficking. Who's going to show up
at that concert. You know the fact that he did.
He is saying this means he has absolutely no remorse
for his actions. The fact that Mark Agniffolo is going
on TV and slow rolling the truth about Madison Square Gardens.
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I heard him talking to Harvey Levin and he said, oh,
Madison Square dot Garden says way down the road, and
now he's just going to focus on being with his children.
It's just a big fat lie, Nancy. You know who
Agnifilo is not mentioning the victims. He actually said to
Harvey Levin that Gina, the third victim, is now coming
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out and saying that she did not feel abused by
P Diddy.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
It is so laughable.
Speaker 7 (08:18):
It's like the lie is being perpetuated in Nancy. The
research shows that men.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Commit in just a few moments.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
I'm going to explain the impact that Gina is having
right now, and I've gotten her on tape complaining as
she should have about being forced to have an abortion
at least one abortion. Isn't it odd how people change
their tune? But that said msg Masile Square Garden bragging
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about headlining there at a sellout tour to Danny Pinter
joining me, VP director at Law Center National Center six
Xploit two. Danny, I remember trying rape cases, many many
many rape cases, and I guess I can throw child
l station into the same pot to stew and I
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would sit there waiting on the verdict, feeling like if
I got a not guilty, I would have let down
these women who had already been through so much, many
of them beaten a lot of times, people would break in.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Their home, some of them were date rapes.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
I mean, there's just you know, the whole gamut of
ways a woman can be brutalized, and very often the
same thing with child lestation. I would sit there waiting
and you know, putting on a brave face, thinking if
this goes bad, they're going to walk out of this courtroom,
and they will never have gotten justice, and it will
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be my fault, and they will go the rest of
their lives feeling like nobody cared and nobody believed them.
The women in this case already feel that way because
of the three not guilties on three camps. Absolutely MSG,
MSG Mass the square Garden, that's what he's bragging about.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
It's so offensive.
Speaker 10 (10:13):
If this is a narcissist who's been empowered by this
unfortunately failed prosecution, right now he feels more powerful than ever.
Speaker 7 (10:21):
That's what it looks like to me. And it's so
telling that it's turned right back around to me, me, me, me.
Speaker 10 (10:27):
He thinks he can do anything, and he's showing absolutely
no concern for the victims at all. And the fact
that his lawyers aren't even in tune with how bad
this is going to play for him and he hasn't
even gone to sentencing is disturbing, to say the least.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
I'm glad you said that. Hey, judge, are you listening?
Are you listening all that BS? I'm talking directly to you, judge,
all that BS about how he's going to be an
anti domestic violence advocate, how he's going to spend more
time with his children and start a new leaf, turn
over a new leaf. What he's doing is planning a
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sellout tour at MSG. That's what's happening, Judge in your backyard. Now,
let's see what you do at sentencing. Are you gonna
buy what he's selling? In court with his grandpa? Did
he look.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Crime stories with Nancy Grace?
Speaker 2 (11:33):
You know, to Rob Shooter what Danny Pinter and doctor
Bethany Marshall said is a little scary.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
And I'll tell you why, Shooter, because it could happen.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
It's like the trial didn't happen, The attacks on Cassie,
the attacks on all these women, the rapes, none of
it happened. If he can go and start at MSG,
it's like nothing mattered, nothing mattered.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Do you understand what I'm I mean?
Speaker 2 (12:00):
I know you're all about pr but think about these
victims and rape victims all around the world.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
If they see.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Diddy there at MSG on the stage, what does that mean?
Speaker 3 (12:12):
It's heartbreaking? Nancy, You're absolutely right, and that's why people
like you and me the panel have to keep talking
about this. This story is not over. Did he won't
allow this story to be over? For the rest of
his life. We have to remind people of that PASSI tape.
We have to speak out. We've lost the first round, Nancy.
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He is empowered, he's emboldened. He is not going away.
But we have to think of these victims and other victims.
But this garden, this Madison Square garden, Nancy, my sources
tell me, and we broke it on your show. Not
only is it happening, it is going to be massive.
They predict it might be more than one night. There's
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going to be special guests on the lineup, including potentially
Kanye West. He is gonna make a splash here. It's
going to be really difficult for us to watch, but
we have to because it is going to happen.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
I mean, Troy Slayton, Joinie Slayton, as much hbl as
I give him, is a veteran trial lawyer.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
He's won a lot of cases. Do I like it?
Speaker 7 (13:18):
No?
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Is it true?
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Yes, he's renowned LA criminal defense attorney Slaton.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Just like.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
You hear Shooter talking about pr and appearances. I'm sure
you tell your clients when they go in court, at
least act interested, act like you're taking notes, dress up
as much as you can don't look like a slob,
don't look evil, don't look menacing, and don't scare the
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jury with freaky looks. I'm sure you tell them all
of that. Like, you know, look at the O. J.
Simpson trial. Simpson looked like, you know, a male model
sitting there taking know.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
It's looking studious.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
I think he even got the Bible out that said,
isn't this kind of a bad look?
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Before sentencing? Instead of talking about all the good.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Things you're going to do when you get out to
help other people, you're talking about a sellout toward MSG.
Speaker 11 (14:17):
Of course, you want to explain all the uh mitigating
factors to a judge, because that's what the judge is
Wayne at the time of sentencing. But is a person
once they've been convicted and done their time and gotten
out of jail, are they supposed to just hide under
a rock or are they allowed to create art?
Speaker 3 (14:37):
He was an artist there.
Speaker 12 (14:39):
I can think of other people that did horrible things,
you know, Woody Allen, Roman, Polanski, others that did horrible
things maybe, And yet yet John.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Wayne said he's an artist too.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Remember remember John Wayne Gacy, the killer clo He says
he's an artist.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
So is Jody.
Speaker 11 (15:01):
This was a failed prosecution and that means nothing. Sometimes
a jury gets it wrong, sometimes a jury gets it right.
Speaker 13 (15:10):
But that's our system.
Speaker 11 (15:11):
Just because a jury came out with a verdict that
you don't.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
I ask you question and you go off all the system.
What's next? Are you going to spout out the constitution?
Speaker 2 (15:22):
I asked you, Nancy, this is a bad look.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
He's supposed to be helping other people.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Nobody said high under a rock and you said when
he gets out of jail, he's not.
Speaker 14 (15:32):
If he's able to jail, if he's able to earn money,
then he's able to better help the community, better help
his family, better help others. I mean, he's even talked
about wanting to be a sex victims counselor.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
A sex victims counselor doctor Bethany Marshall, did you just
hear that.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
That Sean comm says he wants to be a sex
victims counselor You.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Know what, Nancy, that's what I do.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Give this sex victim of drink and say down it, honey,
and ignore they what gh being it? I mean that
has everybody love like mine is like a case settler.
Speaker 7 (16:11):
This is like Casey Anthony saying she's going to work
on behalf of missing unexploited children. They try to get
on the other side in a grandiose way of the
crime and portray themselves as the savior. You know what
I think is motivating this Madison Street Garden concert. It's
a good way to procure victims. What better way to
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find future victims to a cost to attack, to sex traffic,
to domestically abuse than to throw a huge concert and
send your minions out into the audience and find fans,
find adoring fans. Nancy, he needs to put the band
back together again in terms of his whole weekness he was.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Accused of rico.
Speaker 7 (16:55):
He's going to have a team that helps him throw
this concert. And this team could be employed for all
kinds of purposes, not just singing and holding a mic.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
You know, I was earlier playing where the defense attorney
Agniffilo was talking about Seawan Combs appearing at Madison Square Garden. Yes,
many underestimated him when he appeared on Harvey Levin's show
on t MZ, and this is why listen they.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Called them freak ops.
Speaker 5 (17:30):
But you know, back when I was a kid in
the late seventies, they were called threesomes.
Speaker 14 (17:34):
If these are genuinely threesomes, how do you explain a
thousand bottles of baby oil?
Speaker 5 (17:41):
I don't know where the number one thousand came.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
The US attorney said, I can't.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Imagine it's thousands.
Speaker 15 (17:46):
I mean, you know, and I'm not really sure what
the baby oil has to do with anything.
Speaker 14 (17:50):
They're essentially saying it's a lubricant for an orgy.
Speaker 15 (17:54):
I guess I don't know what you need A thousand.
One bottle of baby oil goes a long way. I
don't know what you need to need a thousand for.
I mean, he has a big house. He buys in bulk,
you know. I think they have costcos in every place
where he has a home. I mean, have you sat
in a parking lot of a Costco and see what
people walk out of there with?
Speaker 3 (18:09):
Not a thousand bottles of baby oil.
Speaker 15 (18:10):
I don't think it was a thousand.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
I think it was. I think it was a let's
just say it's a lie.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Okay, that is.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
From my friend Harvey Levin Ever at TMC shooter help me.
Harvey Levin practically had to spell l U b R
I C a anti lubricunt. This is the guy that
masterminded getting Sean Combs off three counts. I think, yes,
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maybe it was TS. I find it really hard to
give him credit.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
It's so shocking in life. This goes against everything that
we believe in that we work for. I used to
believe that if you work really hard, if you're the
best at what you do, then you in. This has
turned that upside down. This clearly wasn't a pretty good defense.
In fact, it was pretty terrible. But they managed the
three three largest charges here. So there's something with us, Nancy.
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It's not them. We got this wrong.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Aside from his bumblings with Harvey Levin, this is what
Agnifilo is saying now.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
And he's not the only one.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Rob Shooter broke it here weeks ago about Madison Square Garden.
Take a listen to Agnifilo speaking to CBS.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
He said to me, he's be back in Madison Square
Garden doing what I guess, being on stage, you know.
I mean then I said, I'll be there. I mean,
I wan't going to be right right in the front.
So we'll see, we'll make it happen.
Speaker 6 (19:39):
Sean Diddy Colmbs is apparently planning a resurrection tour, telling
his attorneys he plans to eventually sell out Madison Square
Garden again from Cbs, he feels.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
Like a winner. It will prove to him what he thinks,
which is he is above the Lord, that he is special,
that he is a wizard. I think a lot of
people should be should be worried. This is a very
dangerous mon Did we.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Want to tell you about me?
Speaker 13 (20:04):
So?
Speaker 1 (20:04):
What should I go? Hide to my soap? A secret
lay up, hide from Diddy?
Speaker 2 (20:10):
All that business about helping domestic assault victims, opening up
a shelter, getting closer to his children that he has
ignored for the.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Last couple of decades. Yeah, forget all that now.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Combs is focused on selling out Madison Square Garden.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
But along the way he's whining.
Speaker 6 (20:33):
Listen, did he whinds about inhumane conditions at the MDC
cleaning His meals consists of expired or maggot infested food.
His attorneys point out that conditions are unlikely to improve
with recent budget cuts. Judge Supermanei encounters Combs acknowledges MDC
staff has met his needs and kept him safe while
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he won't be released prior to sentencing. His next argument
maybe that he can serve out his sentence and his
cushy Miami mansion where numerous freak offs took place.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
So back to the scene of the crime, joining me
now a special guest, Doctor Dwayne Hendrix, former Warden MDC,
also shared an Oregon former senior Warden US Department of Justice,
Federal Bureau of Prisons. It goes on and on and on.
President New Daylight Foundation and author who are you see it?
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Say it? Sees it? Doctor Hendrix? What say you about
Seawan comes this claim, I don't look this food.
Speaker 13 (21:34):
Wait, I say what I've been saying for the last
ten months. He just needs to be quiet. He needs
to focus on his sentencing and all these different mixed
messages from his attorneys about a party, about the conditions
of the facility, about blaming the victims, and all this
other stuff. He just needs to focus on what's going
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to happen in front of him. You know the thing
that really pis me off about all of this. If
he really wants to make a difference, he really wants
to take ownership of his actions, he needs to have
some skin in the game, and he's not going to
have any skin in the game until he is sentenced.
That is the only time that he's really going to
be able to say, Okay, I did something. I'm going
to do my time whatever that is and move on.
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And as far as him trying to do his time
at home, it's not going to happen. He can only
serve up to ten percent of his sentence on home confinement.
The only way that would change is that they give
him a deal sort of like they gave Juleene Maxwell,
where they allowed her to go to a camp a
couple of years ahead of her her time doing ten
years or twelve years at a camp versus ten. So
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in terms of the attorneys using low hanging fruit that
bears no nutrition, talking about box mills and sack sack
mills with maggots, let me tell you something right now,
if someone served an inmate a meal with maggots, it
would be criminal and more inmates would be complaining. Here's
the other thing in it. I'm gonna leave it right here.
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Why is he not talking advocating for his other inmates
in there? He's only talking about himself. Why is he
talking about prison reform at the middle of that bad
Why don't he talk about prison reform other than just
being an abuse counselor, which will never ever happen.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Doctor Dwayne Hendrix, I believe you said.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
I'm going to leave it right there, but I know
you're used to being the big warden at MDC. You're
in Nancy Land now and you're not going anywhere until
I'm through with you. And I am not through with
you because I want to follow up on something you
said that had not occurred to me.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
And I can't believe Bethany.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Marshall has been all over this still saying he didn't
do it, instead of taking any responsibility at all. I
will throw that to Bethany in a moment, but I
want to follow up on this maggot infested food claim, now,
doctor Hendrix, isn't it true?
Speaker 1 (23:55):
You're a former.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Warden at m Mother d Dog Capital MDC in Brooklyn.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Isn't that true?
Speaker 13 (24:04):
Yes, it is true.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
And isn't that where Sean comes is now the MDC
your former workplace.
Speaker 13 (24:12):
Right, yes, ma'am, Yes, and.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
He is accusing your workplace of serving maggot infested food. Now,
you said that would be a crime, And I got
to tell you something, doctor Hendricks. I've been in so
many sea eyes, jails, youth facilities, GV jails, halfway houses, rehabs,
you name it. Typically looking for witnesses that said, I've
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seen the food.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
I've eaten the food. I never saw anything like that.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
And I've been in jails and seais all over this country.
Never have I seen anything like that. Explain what you
meant when you said that would be criminal?
Speaker 13 (24:49):
Okay, So a sack launcher we call a box miil
when they're the operation been shut down, whether it be
through a COVID outbreak or an incident at the institution.
We don't serve inmates hot meals. We give them box
mill what we call a sack lunch, which will be
something like a bread, a processed meat such as a
baloney sandwich, or a cake you know, in a bag
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or something like that, or maybe even a powdered drink. Okay, However,
and again those are less than edible than the meals
that they serve on a daily basis. But in no way,
shape or form will someone an inmate because it may
serve the other inmates. There's no way another inmate will
pass on a meal to another inmate with maggots in it.
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So again I've questioned some about box meals in the
past in terms of how edible they may or may
not be. But in no way, shape or form a
maggot will be ever served.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
What do you mean by that? What do you mean
you question the box meals in the past? What do
you mean you question them?
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Look, I don't want them maggots, Okay, I understand.
Speaker 13 (25:55):
That, because they are, I mean, and that's why they
can only eat box meals for three days. After that
they have to have a hot meal, because ultimately he's
wrong with the boxed meal.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
What do you think was wrong?
Speaker 8 (26:06):
What?
Speaker 1 (26:06):
It just didn't taste good?
Speaker 13 (26:07):
No, they have no nutritional value. And if you if
you have a person in there with diabetes or any
other pronic.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Issue, so suddenly Twitter, you're worried about nutritional value.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
So your con was the nutritional value? Do I have
that right?
Speaker 16 (26:23):
You have that right?
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Yes, we never seen what Seawan comes is describing doctor Jenner.
Speaker 13 (26:29):
Ever, I've never seen a maggot or any worms or
any other parasites crawling in a meal that is served
in a prison.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
I have not Have you ever eaten the food, Hendrix?
Speaker 13 (26:41):
Yes I have, And as an executive staff member, we
were charged with eating at least one meal during the week,
whether it's during the lunch meal or if we're making
rounds in the evenings on the weekends, and all the
duty officers are.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Charged with eating your milky and what was the meal?
What did you eat today?
Speaker 13 (27:00):
They're having spaghetti, they're having what are called school pizza,
you know, those little square pizzas we used to get
in school. And then they'll have maybe a salad. And
if they're on a no flesh meal, they may just
have like a peanut butroter and jelly sandwich or some
sort of protein, maybe beans or something like that to
make up for the nutritional value for those who don't
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eat meat.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
Okay, now we're talking about vegetarians, so you have vegetarian
meals too.
Speaker 13 (27:27):
Yes, we have vegetarian bils for religious purposes.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Okay, doctor Dwayne Hendrix, I'm going to ask you to
go out on a limb. Seawan Comms is saying he
is getting maggot infested food at your old work home, MDC.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Is he lying?
Speaker 13 (27:44):
He is lying unless I hear otherwise he is lying
because there's no way inmates serve other inmates. You will
never do that. And a staff member wouldn't allow that
to happen because again, that would be criminal.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Okay, between Sean and doctor Dwayne Hendricks, I think I'm
going to go with Hendricks. Okay, straight out to Rob
Shooter joining us. He practically lived with Sean Combs as
his pr guru.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Shooter. What would be Diddy's typical breakfast?
Speaker 3 (28:15):
Ooh did he for? Breakfast? Would have salmon eggs. It
would be very very glamorous, maybe a little bit of caviaar,
maybe even some lobster. So he would eat very very
well throughout the day. It would all be prepared by
a private chef. He had a private chef that lived
with him, and also too, he did enjoy going to
a restaurants. I very very very rarely saw him ever
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eat dinner at home. Five six, seven nights a week.
He would be at the top restaurants in New York City,
Miami and around the world.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
I'm sorry, my brain froze at the word caviar? Could
you repeat what comes is used to having for breakfast?
Speaker 3 (28:55):
Puff would eat the best, the most expensive, the most
luxurious food in the world, including caviat that had probably
been flown in fresh salmon, often flowing in from Alaska.
For him, he lived like a king. Nancy.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
What he got what from Alaska?
Speaker 3 (29:16):
Fresh salmon would be flowing in from Alaska. Fresh fish.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
I'm sorry, I don't have that at All's in Kroger.
So I don't even know what you're talking about. Okay,
fresh salmon flown and from Alaska for him to have
for breakfast.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
You'd better believe it, Dadsie. His meat would be coming
from Texas, the freshest food you can imagine. And he'd
have a chef to prepare all this for him. He
was not much of a cook. I never actually ever
saw him in the kitchen. And so he had a chef,
a full time chef that lived at his residence and
would travel with him. I was on a private plane
once with Puff and the chef was on the plane
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when he flew from New York to Miami to LA
That's his plane. A chef would be on that plane,
and also too, Nancy. They would serve fine dining on
the plane. There was always a lot of food, good
food around us.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Now did he's whining about his food? Boo? The hey,
who did he labor?
Speaker 7 (30:13):
Blaming the women, blaming the victims. This is as old
as time.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
The women's provoked him to violence.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
It's their fault.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
What should they be behind bars? And the choir boy
walks three. Yes, his lawyers actually referred to him as
a choir boy. Now he claims he's going to sell
out MSG Madison Square Garden. But whoa woo wah, wait
a minute now coming to Sean Combs.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
His aid is a woman many of us know as.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
Victim number three, the woman that complained on air. He
forced her into an abortion and mistreated her.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
We can only ask.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Ourselves, why the sod turn, Why the bizarre change of coat,
Why now speaking out to help get Sean comes out
of jail. I'm talking about the GF girlfriend Gina Federal prosecutor's.
Speaker 6 (31:17):
Star witness goes Mia. Their attempts to reach Victim three
and her attorney failed. The disappearance even more shocking, as
prosecutors said Victim three no longer wanted to testify.
Speaker 17 (31:29):
Tim Zab reports the woman refusing to cooperate. Prosecutors said
Victim three would disclose very personal and exclusive details concerning
abuse she suffered under calms.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
And exactly who is Gina listen.
Speaker 6 (31:44):
Gina is fashion and travel blogger Virginia, who in her
relationship with Diddy began on Valentine's Day after a chance
meeting in Miami, and she continued to see Combs for
about five years, deeply in love with him, despite his
relationship with Cassie or break up. In twenty nineteen, Gina
gave an emotional interview detailing physical abuse from Colms in
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two instances where he pressured her into getting an abortion.
Speaker 18 (32:09):
He was like, you're gonna get an abortion, right, and
then I was like, I don't know. Uh, I don't
know yet. And then and then he offered me fifty
thousand to get rid of it. If you would always
compare me to Cassie and tell me that I'm the
bad one and she's a good one.
Speaker 7 (32:30):
And he was with both of you guys at the
same time.
Speaker 18 (32:32):
Yeah, the only person that ever helped me was de Rock.
Everyone else just kind of just allowed it to happen
and just like, look the other way.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
That from our friends that Unwine with Tasha Kay on YouTube,
Crime Stores with Nancy Grace tells there was the forced abortion.
According to the GF girlfriend Gina who in and there
(33:10):
is the statement, the only person that helped me was
d rock.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Everyone else kind of allowed it to happen. I assume
that means the beatings and the abuse.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
So why the sudden screech of the brakes and the
U turn. Now she's actually writing letters and petitioning the
judge to let Sean comes out of jail.
Speaker 8 (33:32):
Listen, nobody knows why she's doing it. From both the
outside looking in, it seems pretty evident. A lot of
people think it might have been a payoff. But my
firsts are saying that Gina will always be this man's full.
You know, you talk about the interview with Tasha Kaye
and you talk about the abortion. This man that was
a billionaire offered her five k for an abortion, and
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you know what Gena's.
Speaker 7 (33:55):
Response was, She did it for free, and she was.
Speaker 8 (33:59):
A single month and she did it on her own
dime because she didn't want his money.
Speaker 7 (34:04):
She wanted to be the pro one to prove that
all his women his whole hare.
Speaker 8 (34:08):
She didn't want anything from him but his love, and
he knew that, and he waved over her shoulder. Jena
Han victim number three, as sad as it is, and
I try not to be too judgmental because to me
it seems like she is clearly in still the mental abuse. Okay,
but she was the lynchpin that I believe made the
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prosecution's case fall apart.
Speaker 7 (34:31):
If you go back to that interview, she said exactly.
Speaker 8 (34:35):
What Cassie said happened to her, and also what Jane
said happen to her.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
He was stomping, beating.
Speaker 7 (34:42):
Her, kicking her in the stomach. She couldn't breathe. She
was begging him, please stop, please stop, I can't breathe.
Speaker 8 (34:48):
He then, being such the gentleman, turned around and started
wailing on her head and beating the mess out of her.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
On her head.
Speaker 8 (34:57):
He was dragging her down halls by her here he
was forcing her to get abortions, and Gina took all
of it.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
She was danding a billionaire.
Speaker 7 (35:07):
She became a joke online for those of you who
don't know, or.
Speaker 8 (35:09):
She was dancing in an apartment with dirty carpet as
a single mom, trying to prove she was worthy.
Speaker 7 (35:16):
Cassie was always a good one. She was the bad one.
Diddy pitted her against her.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
Gina is a.
Speaker 7 (35:22):
Tragic figure, but she's also an arrogant.
Speaker 8 (35:26):
Foolish, god ridiculous figure that has everybody so upset.
Speaker 7 (35:32):
Oddly enough, it seems like that letter.
Speaker 8 (35:34):
To Judge Aaron might have backfired because Judge Aaron himself said.
Speaker 7 (35:38):
It doesn't matter what gen and this isn't a prior filing.
Speaker 8 (35:41):
It doesn't matter what Gina might have said to your defense.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
She also went.
Speaker 8 (35:47):
Online and he referenced that Tasha k interview and said
the horrible things that you did.
Speaker 7 (35:53):
So again, Gina is in fool's territory.
Speaker 8 (35:55):
She has a lot of people mad, but again she
is coming out with an arrogant then had you scratching
your head and going back to Rob said did he
a magician?
Speaker 7 (36:04):
What type of mind control? She went online if I
haven't seen the tweets and said, you guys are she's.
Speaker 9 (36:11):
I've never been a follower, which is ironic because you
are the epitity of mind control and follow she called
us goofies, said she's always going to be ten tolls
down and she's a.
Speaker 7 (36:21):
Real a b whatever that means. I look at this
means she is a real dummy.
Speaker 19 (36:27):
Again, trying hard to hold sympathy, and I'm sure I'm
just just stunned about the sudden about face because I
watched that interview with Tasha Kay, over and.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
Over, she said a lot more.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
And the judge is right, Doctor Bethany Marshall, to see
an abuse victim at that level of abuse suddenly turncoat,
change the story and begged the judge to let him out.
Have you ever seen anything like it?
Speaker 7 (36:56):
All the time, Nancy, Sadly, this is not on with
domestic violence victims. This is a very very common thing.
I remember sitting in the green room when all of
Tiger Woods's girlfriends kept streaming in for all these shows
on CNN and HLN, and I talked to all of them,
and each one said the same thing.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
They said, you.
Speaker 7 (37:17):
Know, we knew there were other women. We knew he
was married, We knew he wasn't going to give us
anything at all, but we all thought we were going
to be the special one. We all thought he was
going to choose us instead of the other. You know, Nancy,
we are wired for attachment, and for somebody like Gina,
that idea of winning out over Cassie Ventura, of being
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supported financially, of winning over the love object, conquering him,
turning him around, getting the love that she never had
from him, that can be very intoxicating, Like an aphrodisiac.
So she went on all these shows complaining about what
he did to her, but now now well, she refuses
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to put her thoughts together about the reality of what happened.
It's very frustrating and I'm glad the judge sees right
through it.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Sidney Sumner, I want to follow up on what doctor
Bethany is saying. Sidney Sumner, joining US Crime Stories investigative reporter.
It seems like just yesterday, Sydney, that you and I
were talking about Seawn Combs trying to intimidate witnesses from
behind bars. Do you remember those incidents? I mean, Gina
(38:29):
when is a witness an intended witness although she didn't
show up. Now, could you refresh my recollection, Sydney, about
claims Shawn Combs was intimidating and or trying to.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
Bribe such an ugly word convince witnesses not to testify.
Speaker 16 (38:49):
Absolutely, so we know from prosecutors that Diddy is accused
of convincing other inmates to allow him to use their
code to access the phone to call people witnesses that
he was not supposed to be in contact with. So
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prosecutors star witnesses Diddy was reaching out pretending to be
calling as another inmate in order to gain access to
those individuals, So that was pretty crazy. And then beyond that,
he also used his own phone number code but would
call one of his sons and then have one of
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them patch in one of those protected witnesses that he
was not supposed to be contacting. And even before that,
we know that he contacted a Danity Cane member. So
this was just a few days after Don Richard came
out and claimed that Ditty was abusive on the set
of making the band. He contacted another Danity Cane member
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to two hundred times in forty eight hours until she
finally posted something publicly that said I don't remember things
going down like that. So Dinny is not opposed to
reaching out to witnesses and getting them to say what
he wants them to say, whether that's through money. Threttz,
You've no stranger to witness tampering.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
Rob Sheheeter joining me at Robsheeter dot substack dot com.
Former prgury four comes, Wow, what a coinky dink. After
watching Tasha Kay's interview with Gina Howen repeatedly and all
the things she said happened to her at the hands
of Shawn Combs. Now suddenly you turn about face and
(40:45):
she's writing the judge a legal letter asking for Shawn Combs.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
To be freed. Huh, what do you think happened?
Speaker 3 (40:55):
A couple of things here. First of all, I have
great sympathy for her. I feel like she's a victim
here who's been used, who's been played. If she's watching
right now, we talk out to her, Gina, this is
a terrible mistake. He does not care about you, He
has never cared about you, and now trying to help him.
He's not going to care once he doesn't need you.
So it's a very dangerous game she's playing here. Also too,
(41:18):
there might be some financial aspect of this. Is he
paying her rent? Is he going to help her out? Puffy?
It can be very generous when he wants stuff. And
I think as well, she loved him in a sperverted
type of way that he encouraged. Now that the other
ladies have gone from his life, maybe she thinks she
can be his lead, his number one girlfriend. It's a tragic, tragic,
(41:42):
tragic place that we're in here, and it's not going
to end well.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
And let me be clear, we have no evidence that
a bribe or a threat occurred to make Gina Hawen
change her Let me think to make Gina Hawen write
a legal letter to the jud But again, Rob Shooter,
when you don't know a horse, look at his track record.
(42:06):
He was already caught, according to report, trying to convince.
That's certainly putting perfume on the pig a euphemism. Trying
to convince witnesses to either testify in his behalf or
not testify. Okay, he orchestrated the whole trial, and it worked.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
He got off on three accounts.
Speaker 3 (42:27):
It worked. I think what we can say here with
Anthony dat is that the law doesn't apply to did
he in his own mind, and so did He will
do whatever it takes to get the results he wants.
And if he has to talk to people to get letters,
to get endorsements, he will do it. He will promise
people the world. When he needs you, there is nobody
more charming than Puff. When he doesn't need you, she
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ain't ever going to hear from him again.
Speaker 1 (42:52):
Go to Bethony help me out here.
Speaker 2 (42:54):
Why would any woman in her right mind want to
be first in the line of many? I mean, what
You're going to be queen of the victims. You're going
to be the victim queen. All these women that want
to be with Sean Comes, why would you want that?
I don't get it. And another thing, if you get
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Sean Comes, it's like a dog tastes it a car.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
What do you do when you catch it?
Speaker 7 (43:20):
That's right, Nancy, I think it's part of a cycle.
I would imagine when she first met p Diddy, he
charmed her, he gave her gifts, he maybe financially supported her,
and then so she bonded with the charming Pee Diddy,
and then when he started to neglect and abuse her,
she began to rationalize, well, that's not the real Pea Diddy.
(43:40):
The real Pea Diddy was the one who gave me
the diamond ring and took me out to all that
fine dining. And then when the neglect became more severe,
she probably rationalized, well, he's just busy, he doesn't have
time to call me. And then when he swoops in
and manipulates her and says, you know what, baby, I
know there's all these stories of other women, but you
know what, or other men to Freudian slip, you know, baby,
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You're the most important one.
Speaker 1 (44:05):
That's like, oh my god, I am.
Speaker 7 (44:07):
The most important one. We know that the p deities
of these world are of this world are incredibly manipulative,
and she might be one of these women who just
allows herself to be manipulated because in some way she's
a frustrating character and she's a sympathetic character all at
the same time. Rob Shooter was right, we should have
(44:30):
empathy for her. But Tisa TL's also saying she's in foolsland.
We have to hold intention both sides of Gina Madison
Square Garden.
Speaker 1 (44:40):
My rare end.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
Troy Slayton actually thinks it's going to happen that Sean
Combs aka Diddy's going to sell out MSG. Okay, I'll
be eating a dirt sandwich again if that happens. But Slayton,
what do you do when a witness completely changes their team.
I'm talking about Gena.
Speaker 11 (45:00):
You think your lucky stars because she wrote to the
judge that he's not a danger to the community, that
all of his alleged violent acts were years and years ago,
that she thinks he should be released on bail pending
his sentencing in October.
Speaker 3 (45:18):
I think that she is a gift to.
Speaker 11 (45:20):
The defense at this point, because she's alleged to have
been victim number three, and if one of the government's
own victims is advocating for the defendant to be released,
I think that that's a gift to the Didy defense team.
Speaker 2 (45:35):
Well wait a minute, why wait, wait, wait, Tasa tails,
didn't the judge poop poo the whole thing?
Speaker 1 (45:39):
Did he poop pooh her letter? Judge poo the whole thing?
Speaker 7 (45:42):
Did he try to get the warrant thrown out a
while ago.
Speaker 1 (45:45):
Saying ginas on myself.
Speaker 7 (45:47):
Well, back then he referred towards victim number three is
on my side? What are you talking about? She says,
I'm a changed man.
Speaker 20 (45:52):
Judge Aaron literally wrote in his opinion, Fine, she might
be on your side now, and I'm paraphrasing, but she
also said these things about you, and he distinctly referenced
to Tasha k interview.
Speaker 7 (46:05):
So Judge Aaron is not fighting for it.
Speaker 8 (46:07):
I think Diddy might be doing this for a pr motive,
saying the women have forgive me.
Speaker 7 (46:12):
Who are we the public to.
Speaker 8 (46:13):
Stand in to stand in jury judge execution before them?
Maybe that he thinks is going to help him get
back on Madison Square Garden, but at this point it
seems like it's the kitchen sink. Interestingly enough, that letter
Gina wrote, if you actually read.
Speaker 7 (46:28):
It, and I know you have, there's something.
Speaker 1 (46:30):
Very interesting in it.
Speaker 8 (46:32):
She said, he stands accused of these crimes. She submitted
it after he was convicted. Me thinks that when Gina
decided to go missing and maybe money was found in
her bank account, maybe not.
Speaker 7 (46:44):
Gina also wrote this letter.
Speaker 8 (46:46):
In anticipation, and they decided now to submit it thinking
it will help.
Speaker 1 (46:51):
Again. Interesting language.
Speaker 7 (46:53):
He stands accused, not convicted.
Speaker 2 (46:55):
Well, you know what comes has other issues. He's got
other fish to fry, including I'll be Sure accusing Sean
Combs of having a hand and the death of kim Porter.
Speaker 6 (47:14):
Listen in a now deleted Instagram post, kim Porter's ex
An R and B singer I'll be Sure accuses the
Diddy Machine of funding a large scale social media campaign
to silence his claims that otherwise healthy, forty seven year
old Porter did not die of pneumonia but was murdered.
Sure says at least thirty news outlets were paid to
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scrub hashtag kim Porter from the media.
Speaker 1 (47:37):
Cycle.
Speaker 6 (47:38):
But he will not be dragged through the mud as
an attention seeker or a clout chaser for speaking out.
Speaker 1 (47:44):
The truth of those claims remains to be seen, but
I still say that the murder of Tupac Shakur I
ain't over yet. You hear me, Daddy?
Speaker 2 (47:58):
Nancy Grace signing off, goodbye friend,