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September 24, 2025 47 mins

Sean Combs wants out of jail.

His attorney suggested the judge release the convicted rapper on time served. Combs will be sentenced next week. Combs’ attorneys argue that the government’s case relied on extremely “inflammatory” evidence to obtain the convictions on two counts of transportation to engage in prostitution that would not have been admitted to court had Combs only been prosecuted under the Mann Act.

Prosecutors disagree that the issue warrants Combs a new trial, claiming there are no legal grounds for the judge to overturn the convictions, and Combs should be sentenced on October 3rd.

Should attorneys fail to convince Judge Subramanian he should be acquitted or granted a new trial, Sean Combs will face sentencing on October 3.

Combs could potentially be jailed for more than 20 years if the court adds aggravating factors suggested by the government.

Prosecutors initially said they would suggest 4-5 years imprisonment, but later indicated they would be seeking a substantially longer sentence. Meanwhile, Combs’ attorneys argue he should receive no more than 14 months, amounting essentially to just time served.

Diddy’s defense sentencing packet describes several reasons the music mogul deserves a light sentence. Diddy claims 6–12 months per count accurately reflects the severity of the crimes, and he’s already spent 13 months in deplorable conditions at the MDC.

Diddy cites his incident-free stay, newfound sobriety, and founding an ‘entrepreneurship’ class behind bars as additional reasons for a short sentence.

Combs also wants his freedom back as quickly as possible so he can return to supporting his seven children and 84-year-old mother.

Joining Nancy Grace today :

  • Tre Lovell  - Trial Attorney of The Lovell Firm; Facebook: tre.lovell.5, Instagram: tre-lovell1,
  • Dr. John Delatorre -  Licensed Psychologist and Mediator (specializing in forensic psychology); Psychological Consultant to Project Absentis: a nonprofit organization that searches for missing persons; Twitter, IG, and TikTok - @drjohndelatorre
  • Dr. DeWayne Hendrix - Former Warden at the MDC in Brooklyn, Former Senior Warden with the US Department of Justice, Federal Bureau of Prisons, Founder and President of A New Daylight Foundation, Author: "Who Are You?  See it Say it and Seize it;" @anewdaylight (IG)  @drdewaynehendrix (LinkedIn)  @anewdaylight (X-Twitter)  
  • Lynn Shaw -  Founder and Executive Director of Lynn's Warriors,  Host of Lynn's Warriors on YouTube;  X: @lynns_warriors, YouTube: @LynnsWarriors
  • Rob Shuter - Former publicist of Sean Combs, Host: Naughty But Nice Podcast; IG: @naughtygossip 
  • Tisa Tells - Pop Culture Investigator & Commentator and Host of 'Tisa Tells' on Youtube, Instagram & TikTok: @TisaTellss, Facebook: Tisa.Tells.3 
  • Lauren Conlin - Investigative Journalist, Host of The Outlier Podcast, and also Host of "Corruption: What Happened to Grant Solomon; X- @Conlin_Lauren/ Instagram- @LaurenEmilyConlin/YouTube- @LaurenConlin4

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Did he on suicide Watch?
That's right?

Speaker 2 (00:11):
This as he demands an emergency hearing to walk free.
I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. I want to
thank you for being with us.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
Did he once out?

Speaker 4 (00:24):
The disgraced Wrapper makes yet another bid at an early
release from jail after thirteen months of detention following a
split verdict in his divisive trial.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
Did he wants out? That's why he's said he wants out.
So does every other cellmate, every other inmate on the block.
They all want out. Why do they want out? They're
in jail. Why are they in jail? Because it's something
they did and for which they are convicted. I guess
he does want out?

Speaker 1 (00:54):
What about it?

Speaker 2 (00:55):
Rob Sheeter? Is he missing that private chef? Is he
missing the menions that go out at three am and
find him freshly made cheesecake and bring back to him
and take it.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
Back and go here you go, Ddy, here comes.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
The plane, open the runway.

Speaker 5 (01:12):
He's dead. In his life, you wouldn't miss that life.

Speaker 6 (01:16):
He had one of the most extraordinary lives of anybody
on this planet.

Speaker 5 (01:20):
So but he blew it.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
He broke the law, put him up, Get Combs off
the beach eating fresh mango.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
Please stop the most extraordinary life.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
See, when I think of extraordinary lives, I think of
Mother Teresa, I think of Billy Graham, I think of
christ I think of the Pope. I think of all
the people that have done good works. What's extraordinary about
selling perfume? Help me out here, what's extraordinary? What about
all those free coughs, all those black eyes, all those bruises,

(01:54):
his victims got, the prostitution charges across state lines.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
What's extraordinary?

Speaker 2 (02:00):
I find him extremely ordinary, just like every other pimp
in the jailhouse.

Speaker 6 (02:04):
Yeah, I did, point Nancy, And he probably hasn't done
anything extraordinary, But there is no doubt the life that
he let, the power, the money, the prestige that he
once had especialable whether or not he still has that,
But that life was a pretty extraordinary life.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
And the way you say that just gets under my skin.
You talk about Combs like he's some icon.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
The power, the movie, The way you say that, it's
just like dirt in my mouth. Did you not see
the bruises on those women? Did you not hear the
testimony about how one had been with all these sex
workers and went in the shower and vomited, and he
goes put us a makeup ho and get back out there. Really,
that's extraordinary.

Speaker 6 (02:50):
It is extraordinary. This is not ordinary, Nancy. This is
not ordinary behavior. The reason he got away with it
for so long was because of his power, his money,
and someone He is still getting away with it now.
This was not the verdict that a lot of people wanted.
I think it's naive to pretend that his power and
his money is not a big part of who did

(03:10):
he in the myth.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
Of Diddy is Okay, here's the other thing, the whole
thing about suicide watch.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
Do you really think that Sean comes.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
I would kill himself because Sean Combs loves Sean Combs
more than anybody else in the world.

Speaker 5 (03:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (03:28):
Absolutely, No, I don't buy it at all. If he
was going to kill himself, he would have done it already.
At the moment, Team Cones, Puffy Sean, whatever you want
to call him, he thinks he's winning at the minute.
This is not a humble man. From all the sources
I've spoken to, is empowered. He feels like he's going
to be coming out soon, and he thinks he's going

(03:48):
to be back on top.

Speaker 5 (03:50):
So no, I don't buy the suicide watch at all.
If he was going to kill himself, he would have
already had.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
You know, I'm just wondering and I don't want to
negate the possibility of it being legit. To doctor John
Delatory joining me, I need a shrink, Doctor Delatory, renowned
a psychologist mediator specializing in forensic psychology.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
It's hard for us on the outside to look.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
In, but everything I have seen of Sean Comb's he
uses the system. He's gotten off time after time after time.
The woman that got shot in the face in the
nightclub says, comes shot me, and he was acquitted. Tupac
shaker witness says, comes to cut a million dollar.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
Hit, yet he walked.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
I mean, it just happens over and over again. Parading
out his own children to do that birthday video to
try to gin up sympathy amongst the jury, bringing in
his children, including young impressionable girls, during the testimony about
forcing women to have sex with sex workers, drugging them.

(05:07):
You're seeing it right now from at Prince JDC on
insta using other people, using mules to carry his dope,
using women, using the mothers of his children. It just
it's nasty. It is not what a narcissist is. And

(05:27):
the narcissists to love themselves that much commits suicide.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
I don't understand it. I'm just a trial warrior. You
tell me.

Speaker 7 (05:35):
Yeah, I think yes, number one, this is the high
level of narcissism that we come to expect with individuals
with too much power having these kinds of perverted deviancies. Now,
when it comes to is someone capable is a narcissist
capable of committing suicide? The answer is yes, but under

(05:56):
really specific circumstances.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
I swear.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
I think he's getting his feet and his legs exfoliated.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
Yeah everything.

Speaker 7 (06:07):
Yeah, this is the type of person that is not
going to commit suicide. He truly believes that the moment
that he gets out all of this stuff right, this
private plane, right, all of these people as his servants
are gonna be there for him to subjugate themselves to
him once again. So is he actually legitimately a high

(06:29):
risk to commit suicide? No, And I think that takes
away from the individuals who are a high risk to
commit suicide. He's playing this game and thinking that he's
winning because that's all part of the narcissism and power
and control that he believes, the delusional belief that he
has over the people around him, and he's been getting
away with it, so that's why he continues to use it.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
Utter delatory. I've had crime victims commit suicide. Right, victim,
she's just gonna live with it anymore. I had a
colleague commit suicide and I did not see it coming,
and I thought I knew him so well, just walked

(07:11):
into San Francisco Bay and that was it, drowned. I
didn't see it coming. So the pain that suicides caused
to those around you. I remember, as a little girl
in sixth seventh grade, a friend of ours mom committed

(07:33):
suicide and nobody could believe it. I remember she used
to call in the local radio station WMAZ and talk
on the chat line in the mornings, and she was
so bubbly and funny, just hilarious. And her little girls,
I think she had three girls, were just devastated when
their mom, who was like the charismatic one of the family,

(07:57):
killed herself. So it leaves behind a wake of pain
that never goes away, and it's handed down like the
way they raise their children, the way they raise their children,
and so forth and so on.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
But to see.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
Somebody pretend to be suicidal and use it to try
to get out of jail early. I don't like that
when real victims suffer real consequences.

Speaker 7 (08:23):
And that's what gets lost here, right, that there are
real people. He victimized, real people, and these people have
to live with the shame and the trauma. And we
hope that they're getting the help that they need so
that they're not wearing this mask that things are okay
when things are not okay. And so now we have
Diddy here putting on this air of oh my god,

(08:44):
my life is so bad because I'm in prison. Well,
don't hurt people. If he didn't hurt people, if he
used his power and his money, if he used his
influence to actually help people, then he wouldn't be in
this predicament. He made choices, his narcissistic, deviant behavior put
him in this position to be in prison, and now
he's saying that he's too weak to actually commit.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
Arid crime stories with Nancy Grace.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
Going now to a veteran trial lawyer from the level
of firm, Trey Level is joining us and again I
can't stress enough. Veteran trial lawyer, Trey, if you could
just take off your defense hat at.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
Just one moment and be real.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
You and I have both seen inmates work the system right.
They work it to a way in a way that
benefits them. I remember after my first I was first
assigned to the busiest courtroom in the courthouse.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
In inner city Atlanta. We were on trial every other
week for a variety of reasons.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
I went into my first planning negotiation that judge would
have the DA sit down with the defendant and their
lawyer to work out a deal, and they spotted that
I wore a.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
Cross every day.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
The next week for playing arrangement, they all came in
with big crocheted cross, this big around their chest and
sat there.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
I'm like, stop, okay.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
So they were trying to work it to get a
better deal out of me. See what I mean, that's
just a tiny example of jobbing the system.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
Is that what comes is doing.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
I mean, I'm on suicide watch to get better treatment,
to get out of jail, to get on a different
cell block.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
What is he doing? He's a master manipulator.

Speaker 6 (10:43):
Tray.

Speaker 8 (10:44):
Well, they're trying to get some sympathy for him, saying, look,
you know he's it's devastating in jail, conditions are horrible.
It's on suicide to watch. He's got seven kids and
a mom to take care of. He's already suffered. We
need to get him out of there now.

Speaker 5 (10:57):
This is all part of the employ to try.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
To lovel He knows where babies come from.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
He's got seven children. Yeah, you have to support them.

Speaker 1 (11:09):
That was his decision.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
I'm sure Sean Combs knows where babies come from.

Speaker 8 (11:15):
Level Listen, he's got the opportunity now to really get
a lenient sent And what I mean is he beat
most of the prosecution on the serious charges. He's looking
at two charges to fan station gaging, prostitution, and the
fact that he's got no prior convictions. Supposedly he's changed
in jail, he's helping people. This is an opportunity that

(11:35):
his lawyers are jumping on to get him out.

Speaker 5 (11:38):
They're going to use everything they can sympathy. He's a
changed man.

Speaker 8 (11:42):
The crime is not that as serious as the others.
It's a consensual, non violent crime. Your honor, he can
do better outside.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
Did you say non violent?

Speaker 2 (11:53):
You know what you really do take the cake. You
really do beat all level non violent control room if
you don't mind senda his text, the photos of all
those bruises women suffered as Sean Combs's hands.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
And in the meantime, listen to this.

Speaker 9 (12:12):
Judge Schubermanni and may hear arguments on Comb's desperate motion
for a new trial ahead of sentencing. Combs claims freak
offs are First Amendment right and that he can't be
prosecuted under the Man Act for hiring escorts that he
did not have sex with. Prosecutors argue the Man Act
does not distinguish and there was more than enough evidence
to support Comb's convictions.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
Joining me right now, Tisaatel's investigative reporter, star of Tisa
tales on YouTube, Tisa an emergency hearing.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
He has dragged us all back to court over and
over and over for his repeated.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
Bond hearings, including an appeal bond after the conviction, still claiming.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
Let me out, I don't deserve to be here.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
Wake up, comes, look around, You're convicted. This is home,
sweet home for a long time to come. Why does
he want an emergency hearing?

Speaker 1 (13:05):
Why else?

Speaker 10 (13:06):
Because he is literally throwing everything against the wall like
it's spaghetti.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
At this point, I feel like I'm starring in an
X rated version of Sonny with a chance of Meatballs.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
He is saying everything he can.

Speaker 10 (13:17):
First he is a messiah to the prison, inspiring others.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
Then he might be on suicide watch, but he thinks
he's gonna get out. But the community loves hims.

Speaker 11 (13:26):
And by the way, he inspired everybody by selling a
million bottles of perfume.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
He's doing what he can with he can, and to
a certain point, you can't blame him one because even
the devil wants to survive. You know, he's not saying
and Jesus, okay, take me on now to why he's
doing what he is. Evil likes to survive. But for
two his lawyers did the unthinkable.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
They literally got him out of the more serious offenses.
And now instead of being humble, instead of taking his
punishment like he should, instead of having any sense of decency,
because he got if you listen to Rob Shooter and
everyone else, he got.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
To where he is by being shameless. He now thinks
he can do his final trick and escape any type
of accountability. Thank goodness, it looks like Judge Aaron is
not buying it, but again, you never know, so why
is he doing it simply because he can?

Speaker 11 (14:22):
This is a man that for his entire life he
give things to other people's bodies, both mentally, physically and sexually,
because he could.

Speaker 1 (14:31):
And when it comes to a justice system, nothing has changed.
I think that's why he's doing it.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
Scheer out to Rob Sheeter joining us, host of Naughty
but Nice podcast. He's at Robsheeter dot substack dot com
and former PR guru two. Sean comes see this is
what I don't like. I don't like him using other
suicide victims and their families, the people that love them,

(15:02):
using that to try to work the system. Did you
ever want and all the time you worked with Sean
Combe's aka did he? Did you ever see him self harm?
Did you ever hear of suicidal ideation? Did he ever
put anybody else before him self?

Speaker 6 (15:21):
Three questions, three answers. Nancy, No, no, no. I never
ever saw him ever try to harm himself. Harming other
people is what Uffy did. He doesn't harm himself. He
is the center of his universe. Did he loves one
person on this planet and that person is did he
he would never ever hurt himself. Now would he hurt

(15:45):
other people to give himself pleasure? We've seen that very clearly.
The answer to that is yes. But the suicide watch
is really concerning Nancy, not only because of the shame
that this does to people who really are really are
on suicide watch. This also potentially, and may I even

(16:05):
dare say, maybe work. He has pulled a lot of
things out of the hat, Nancy, and I'm afraid to
say many of them.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
Have worked out of the hat.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
I think he's pulling it out of something else, but
I can't say it on the air. Linn Shawn joining me,
founder or executive director of Lynn's Warriors, which is committed
to saving victims from trafficking and abuse.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
If you look her up, you'll see.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
Her constantly leading one march after the next in Washington,
always fighting the good fight.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
Lynn Shaw.

Speaker 2 (16:40):
I have seen the mental and emotional turmoil that sex
attack victims live through. They have suicidal thoughts, They can't
get away from it because of what was done to
them and that feeling of power less ness. It never
goes away. The scars may go away, the bruising may

(17:02):
go away, the cuts, the bleeding that may go away,
but the emotional scars never go away.

Speaker 1 (17:09):
It affects them for the rest of their lives.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
And I think Sean Combs is trading off other people's
pain to try to get out of jail free.

Speaker 10 (17:20):
Well, of course he is Nancy because this is his
playbook first of all, aka dirty Ditty degenerate. You know what,
He's like a piece of old gum stuck on the
bottom of my shoe and I can't shape him. We
work every single day with victims of sexual exploitation, sexual crimes, rapes. Okay,
this is so offensive, you know what. It is so

(17:41):
offensive because these people we work with, these young women,
older women, girls even are so traumatized. This is not
something you get attacked, it goes away. As you've pointed out,
this is a lifelong trauma. Sometimes it doesn't rear it's
ugly head for five ten years and then it comes
out full. This dirty diddy degenerate, he destroyed so many

(18:04):
lives and he has no shame.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
We've seen this.

Speaker 10 (18:06):
Over and over again, total total destruction. I find this
completely offensive, but you know what, there's something to it because,
as Rob Shooter pointed out, he seems to just have
get away with everything, no accountability, and you know what
a slap in the faceset is to all of the
victims and survivors of these crimes. They feel like the
justice system is never on their side. And they also

(18:27):
say to me, you know what, you have a couple
of bucks and that's all that everybody cares about. What
a disgrace this man is too.

Speaker 1 (18:34):
Doctor Dwayne Hendrix joining us.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
Former warden at MDC in Brooklyn, Former Senior Warden, US
Departmaent of Justice, Federal Bureau of Prisons, Founder and president
of a New Daylight Foundation, author of Who Are You
See It? Say It, Sees It, It Goes on and on,
Doctor Hendrix, thank you for being with us. Did you

(18:58):
tell me that you you don't believe Sean Combs is
on Suicide Watch?

Speaker 12 (19:03):
No, he's not on suicide Watch. What he is? He's
on a two hour watch program that's associated with either
monitoring inmates who have escape risks are very problematic to
the operations of the institution.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
We're very delicate and don't like.

Speaker 12 (19:20):
The food that not that nasty, but or it makes
at suicide risk. So he is he is not happy
with having to every two hours approach a staff member
whether it's an officer or someone else in the building,
approach them with his ID to prove that one he
is alive and he is not causing any issues, and

(19:40):
he is not at a risk of suicide or having
any suicidal audiation at that time. So that's what his
lawyers are referring to when he said he's on constant
suicide watch, because ultimately, how can he be on constant
suicide watch while facilitating entrepreneurship classes and other self proving
things to other inmates in the building. Is he's constantly

(20:03):
on suicide watch, he would have to be taken to
another Wait.

Speaker 2 (20:06):
A minute, So, doctor Dwayne Hendrix, no offense to you
since you have been the former warden at NBC. But
so you're telling me you know more than Fox News, CBS, NBC, ABC, YouTube.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
Let's see here, Yahoo, blah blah blah blah.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
They all say he's on suicide watch, but you, doctor
Dwayne Hendrix, say you're all wrong.

Speaker 12 (20:30):
Why I'm saying they're wrong because they are calling it
suicide watch when I'm saying he's on a two hour
watch program. And I saw it in one of the
reports when I was reading articles yesterday that mister Combs
is upset that he has to constantly present his IV
car to a staff member every two hours. And that's
what his attorneys are referring to. As far as he's

(20:52):
on constant suicide watch, he's not on watch. He is
being monitored closely because of possible risks and also because
of his high profile nature and that kind of thing.
But there's no way that he would be moving in
and out of his unit every couple of hours, I
mean every couple of days while teaching and improving inmates

(21:13):
lines through, you know, showing him how to be entrepreneurs.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
Oh, Dwayne Hendrix, you know, wait, hoot line and sinker man,
he got you right by the mouth, helping inmates teaching entrepreneurship.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
What how to throw a free cost?

Speaker 13 (21:35):
Well, if somebody's line, I mean either either he's on
suicide watch or he's teaching these classes. And I don't
know who he's teaching, and I don't know who's listening
to him. But also said report where they were saying
an inmate approached him with a homemade knife in a
a in a unit with individuals that are charged with
crime similar to his. He's not in there.

Speaker 12 (21:56):
With hardened inmates. I've never seen a shank in that
part of the jail that he's at in a dorm
style unit, and he's supposed to had talked this inmate
down from stabbing him and all this kind of stuff.
So all these stories are all they're all made up.
But I do believe he's on a two hour watch program.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
But he's on sales side watch.

Speaker 12 (22:18):
He's not. He's on a two hour watch program. And
we use that in various ways in the in the
girl prisons, depending on again the security level of the
institution and then specifically this particular individual who is high profile,
who may be at suicide risk depending on what the
decision is made next Friday. Because I'm going to tell

(22:40):
you right now, he's looking forward to getting on that
private jet, but if he is sentenced to more than
about twenty four months, his next flight is going to
be on a con Air instead of a plane, and
he's going to be handcuffing Martin chain for three to
four hours out of every flight until he gets to
his destination. So I'm sure things by level was pretty

(23:00):
high because he's not really sure which plane he's going
to be on. Either he's going to be on a
con air flight with the US Marshals, or he'll be
probably planning on some sort of freak off situation if
he gets to get that private jet to his private jet.
If he's given a year in a day or time
serve sitting. So I'm sure his anxiety level was pretty
high right now.

Speaker 4 (23:22):
Diddy's defense pleased with Judge supermaney and arguing the rapper
has served enough time behind buards. Meanwhile, did he promises
after decades of wild partying and alleged drug use that
he is finally clean?

Speaker 1 (23:37):
Okay, okay?

Speaker 2 (23:39):
Joining me right now is Lauren m conlin, star a
pop crime TV on YouTube. Wait just a minute. He
is now saying what he should get out of jail
on time served because what.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
Correct Nancy did.

Speaker 11 (23:55):
He's attorneys are arguing that he should serve no more
than fourteen months time served and when he gets out,
he'll be on supervisor released, he'll do group therapy, drug therapy.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
Their argument, I mean.

Speaker 11 (24:09):
It's incredibly long. They cite that he has not only
gotten sober in jail, but he has helped others through
therapy through group settings, and he's a change man here.
And also Nancy he got more than seventy five letters
of support from families and celebrities.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
Well, isn't it true that most of those letters.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
Are from colleagues and people that are living off of him?

Speaker 9 (24:41):
That's actually, that's a good point.

Speaker 11 (24:43):
I actually didn't think of that, but correct his baby Mama,
Sarah Chapman, Dana Trant.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
How did you not think of that, Lauren Colin.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
You know, when you look at a witness that you're
considering putting on the stand or using their letter of recommendation,
you weigh their veracity, their credibility, What if anything, do
they have to gain or lose based on what they
tell the court. Almost every one of these people, without exception,

(25:15):
are living off Sean Combs.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
Yeah, we got a lot to lose. They might have
to go get a job. What about that? Well, you
could argue that's fair.

Speaker 11 (25:26):
You could argue Young Miami is technically not living off
Sean Holmes. Dallas Austin is not living off Sean Holmes. However,
I didn't think those letters were anything spectacular. Dallas Austin's letter,
I thought it was very lackluster.

Speaker 9 (25:40):
He kind of just choked me, who whoa whoa whoa.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
Whoa whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You're the one
that brought up Young Miami not real name.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
Now, isn't it true that Young Miami accused of transporting
pink cocaine for Combs?

Speaker 11 (25:55):
That's an allegation. There have been many allegations.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
She has never been charged for that.

Speaker 11 (26:00):
But she her letter actually was decent, Nancy.

Speaker 5 (26:03):
I mean she talked.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
About how it put her up, telling me about her
letter supporting Sean Combs. She is accused of transporting pink
cocaine for him as a mule.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
Isn't that true? Yes?

Speaker 11 (26:18):
No, yes, but she has never been charged that.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
She but but isn't it true that she posted a
video of herself at a dress fitting for her Met
Gala appearance with Combs her act and.

Speaker 11 (26:39):
She does cite that, well, she cited that opened doors
for her.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
Colin, that's a yes. No, dear Colin, Have you ever
been invited to the Met Gala? Have you?

Speaker 3 (26:49):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (26:49):
No?

Speaker 1 (26:50):
To cover for press? Yes, I have, but not as
not as an intending Oh okay, so let me rephrase
my question.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
Have you ever been invited as a guest at the
Met Gala? Not one of the fringe on the side
going hey, hey, hey, question question, are taking a picture?
I mean one of the people that go up the
red carpet and post Can we see the galla photos
of Shawn Comes in his cape?

Speaker 1 (27:16):
Please? Ever have you ever bought the red carpet at
the met Gala?

Speaker 8 (27:22):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (27:22):
No, no I have not.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
Okay, So how do you think Young Miami got invited
to the met Gala?

Speaker 1 (27:32):
Think? Think? Think, ye, Well Shawn Comes invited her and
you're okay.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
So Rob Sheet are joining me, longtime PR guru, former
publicist Shawn Combs.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
There's somebody trying.

Speaker 2 (27:47):
To tell me the Young Miami and everybody else is
writing these letters, aren't gos.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
You're trying to think of a nice way to say this, aren't.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
They're like ticks sucking the blood out of Shawn Comes
bake account.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
They're all living off him. Yes, hgwl y.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
Yes, they want him out of jail, They want him
working again. They want him to push the perfume and
the clothing and the comeback tour so they can live
high on the hug. That is not worth a hullabaze
to me.

Speaker 6 (28:19):
You are right, Nancy, I love Lauren Colin, Hello, my friend, But.

Speaker 5 (28:24):
On this instance, I think we have to disagree.

Speaker 6 (28:26):
Everybody around Diddy, pretty much everybody, including family members, are
all there because he pays for everything. Most of them
get a salary from him, they get a monthly fee
from him. All the money comes from Puff. When Puff
can't make money, they can't either. And it's not just
about money, Nancy. It's a bad power here. Being in

(28:49):
his inner Cirtle gave always hanger ons. That's the world
word I would use. All these people who hung on
it gave them power that they do not have when
the king is not around. So that's why they want
him all out. They want their old lives back, and
so that's why they are writing these letters saying lovely

(29:09):
things about him. It's interesting nance none of the people
that do not need Puff anymore, the Beyonces, the jay Z's,
the Anna Winters, the Clyde davis Is, people who once
were his so called.

Speaker 5 (29:21):
Friends, none of those.

Speaker 6 (29:23):
People have put a single note, a single letter together.
All these letters are from people who rely on Puff
and his money.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
Let's just start with Lawanda aka Lawa.

Speaker 3 (29:37):
Lane Lawanda Lala Lane, a close friend of Kim Porter
who has lived with Sean Combs for four years to
help raise his children, write the Combs is a shining
example of black excellence. Lane says she is an awe
of Combs's success in his business ventures, pointing out that
he is the first black man to have a fragrance
line selling nearly a million bottles a week.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
Okay, well that just rub me the wrong way. And
I'll tell you why.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
Because you have money does not mean you are above
the law. Do you really think, to you, Troy Level,
you're in the veteran defense attorney that the judge cares
that Sean Combs has sold a million dollars perfume.

Speaker 8 (30:15):
No judges, he's going to look at at the facts
of the case, conviction, what he was convicted of. He's
going to look at other factors and come up.

Speaker 5 (30:26):
With a sentence.

Speaker 8 (30:26):
I mean, you know what's outside the courtroom they don't
care about. We're looking at a look at this guy
has even rehabilitated anyway, you know, what have the conditions been, Like?

Speaker 1 (30:36):
What can he do if he does get out.

Speaker 5 (30:38):
It can be positive? And what is the crime is
convicted of. That's going to be the limitations the judges
can look at.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
I mean, in my mind, to you, doctor Dwayne Hendrix,
you're the former warden at MDC. All of that commercial
success comes has had to me puts an even greater
burden on him to do the right thing, to work
with charity, to give money to help people that are
less powerful or less cunning than he is. I've never

(31:06):
heard anything about that, and he is claiming the reason
he should be let out this psalm. Lwanda Lane, who's
basically living off him, says he has sold a million
bottles of perfume and that's why he should get out.
Tell me something good. Tell me about volunteer work. Tell

(31:29):
me about what a great dad you are, not how
you were off in some hotel having a free cough
while your children were at home with the babysitter. I mean,
that is what would matter to me, and I.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
Hardly agree with you, Nancy.

Speaker 12 (31:42):
First of all, inmates aren't allowed when they shouldn't be
allowed to run a business while they're behind bars. And
if he was truly humble, he would say, I've been
convicted of these crimes. I understand that I need to
make some changes in my life, and I'm going to
be humble and jud whatever you see fit to sentence me.

(32:04):
I will accept though. I will accept that sentence, and
I will use this time to make myself better so
that way when I get out, I'm a better man,
I'm a better father, and I'm going to do community
work to make sure that there is no other Sean
Colmbs after me other than the good parts of myself.
But everything is about complaining. It's about the foods, about

(32:27):
somebody's putting something in the food, is complaining about being
on suicide watch, and this, that and the other. At
the end of the day, he needs to humble himself,
accept whatever sentence has becomes his way, and at that point,
when he gets his release date, he'll know what he
needs to do to better himself so he can be

(32:47):
a better father, a better citizen, and so that others
who aspire to live the life that he's lived can
live it within a way in a framework that doesn't
cause damage and harm, because the real victims here are
the people that he harmed, his staff and ultimately his
children as well. So we'll see, we'll see next Friday

(33:10):
what shakes out.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
At this hour.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
Sean Comes aka Diddy, aka Puffy, aka Puff aka Puff Daddy,
most recently aka Love says he's on suicide Watch and
he's sick of jell food and therefore he should walk
free on time served.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
Rob Shooter.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
We are hearing about how Seawan comes is a changed man. Okay,
why can't he be a changed man and do his
jail time.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
I want you to watch this shooter.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
It's so difficult to reflect on the darkest times in
your life.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
Sometimes you got to do that.

Speaker 8 (33:52):
I was, I mean, I had robbed bottom, but.

Speaker 1 (33:57):
I made no excuses.

Speaker 5 (33:59):
My behavior you on that video is inexcusable.

Speaker 6 (34:03):
I take full responsibility for my ashes in that video.

Speaker 1 (34:08):
Disgusted.

Speaker 8 (34:11):
I was disgusted then when I did it, I'm disgusting now.

Speaker 12 (34:17):
And went in.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
I sought out professional help.

Speaker 5 (34:21):
And of going to therapy, we're going to rehab.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
Wow. Second verse same as the first. Didn't he just
say that he was so.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
Disgusted at beating.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
Cassie Ventira when it was called on video that he
did it again. He did it again and again and again.
He was so disgusting with himself out.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
That he kept having freak off after freak off after
freak off, one civil suit after the next after the next.
A lady is saying that were drugged and rape at
his freak cough parties. But he just kept doing it
what out of self loathing? I don't think so. And
now he's trying the same old shoe on the other foot,
same thing.

Speaker 6 (35:07):
You're right, Nancy, he's doing this again, arguably because he
thinks it works. He thinks this will get him off.
And I'm afraid to say, Nancy, in night, we don't know.
We've already been very disappointed with one of these verdicts,
and so I'm hoping we're not disappointed again. It's an
incredibly smart Marketer pr guy, and he knows that this

(35:30):
sort of stuff works. He's done it before, Nancy. He's
doing it a day, and so that's why we're seeing this.
I don't think he's a changed man. I think he's
a court man. This is a man who has been
caught and suddenly now suddenly he changes.

Speaker 5 (35:44):
We know better than you know.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
And another thing, they're not mutually exclusive to you, Trey Lovell.
You've getting plenty of guys out of jail on more
serious accounts than this. But isn't it true you can
be a changed person while you're in jail doing your
hard time. Right, you don't have to get out and

(36:07):
get back at the met gala to be a changed man.
And how many times is he going to use the
same old thing. I'm sorry, I'm a change man. I
found the Lord, no offense Lord, And how many times
are people going to believe it? You think this judge
hasn't heard this song and dance before from every inmate

(36:28):
that comes in front of him.

Speaker 7 (36:29):
No, you're absolutely right.

Speaker 8 (36:31):
The judge is going to take this with the.

Speaker 7 (36:33):
Grain of salt.

Speaker 8 (36:34):
But these are the things that he has to establish
take advantage of possibly getting a lenient sentence.

Speaker 5 (36:42):
You know the fact that.

Speaker 8 (36:44):
He is a changed man, as shown by being incarcerated
with what has he done. He selfed other inmates, he
stopped drinking. He now wants to educate people and he
will continue.

Speaker 5 (36:55):
That on board. Now whether or not we believe that.

Speaker 8 (36:57):
And it's very convenient to say that.

Speaker 5 (37:00):
That's what he's got to say.

Speaker 8 (37:01):
That's what the judge has to has to hold his
hands on to try to get the sense of that.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
He wants.

Speaker 1 (37:14):
Crime stories with Nancy Grace.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
As we go to air tonight, Seawn comes claiming he
can't wait for sentencing. He wants an emergency hearing right
now that he claims he is on suicide watch and
he doesn't like the food.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
Okay, I'll tell you what he doesn't like.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
He doesn't like having people at his beck and call,
and his.

Speaker 1 (37:40):
Life is different. For instance, speaking of the food, listen.

Speaker 12 (37:46):
To be Mango too with has your back round.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
I didn't want it. I wanted that you hear me,
will allow myself to not have mingo?

Speaker 2 (38:04):
No? I mean really, that's from Sean Combs did his instagram. Okay,

(38:24):
there you go, shooter. He demands his fresh.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
Mango and he ain't getting it. He wants out of jail.
Got me up.

Speaker 5 (38:33):
Oh that's thee I love it when you do that.
You're absolutely right. He wants his life back.

Speaker 6 (38:40):
Who wouldn't want that life of Diddy, that life of
a superstar. He's demanding, he knows what he wants. He's
not getting it, and he's throwing a little temper tantrum.
But I should should point out we're not gonna want
to hear it.

Speaker 5 (38:56):
It often works for him, Nancy.

Speaker 6 (38:57):
This is a man who has not changed his because
he has been rewarded for bad behavior. The more ridiculous
the videos are that he has posted in the back past,
the more likes he gets the more people he gets
talking about him. So I think it's unrealistic to expect
this man to change now or ever.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
Joining me Lauren Carmen, star of Pup Crime TV. Lauren.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
He's also climbing speaking of fresh mango. Did the food's
really bad at MDC?

Speaker 5 (39:28):
Yes, the food is awful.

Speaker 1 (39:30):
He doesn't like it.

Speaker 11 (39:31):
At one point, there were reports that he was on
some kind of food strike. He's also said there are
maggots everywhere. I mean, look, what do you expect. You
are in federal jail in Brooklyn, New York. It's not
going to be the four seasons.

Speaker 5 (39:46):
You know.

Speaker 2 (39:47):
Let's take that with the former warden at the MDC,
doctor Dwayne Hendrix.

Speaker 1 (39:53):
Okay, MDC, he doesn't like the food.

Speaker 12 (39:58):
Goots, Look, were you trying to feed three thousand people
the same meal? The taste is not going to be
the same, the quality is not going to be the same.
And at the end of the day, it's jail. You know,
the food is supposed to.

Speaker 1 (40:11):
Be paddleable and edible.

Speaker 12 (40:13):
An executive staff member is charged with eating one sampling
one meal every single day to make sure it's edible.
It's not going to be five star. It's not going
to be some taste like a chef that he's had
over over the years. It's not going to taste like that.
So that's unfortunate. But that's that's jail, and if.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
You don't want to, that's why you don't have free
coughs with unconscious women, and that's why you don't transport
sex workers across state lines, which is a crime. So
you don't have to eat jail food. Okay, hold on,
does this ring a bell to you? Lunch menu scrambled eggs,
chicken wraps, baked chicken, beef, tacos, it goes on and on.

Speaker 1 (40:58):
That sounds pretty good to me.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
Rice green means dinner chili max, Salisbury steak who I
likes in Salisbury steak tonight.

Speaker 1 (41:06):
But I don't have that.

Speaker 2 (41:06):
I have to cook chicken fried rice weekends, comfort food, cheese, pets, spinach.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
What that doesn't sound bad to me? What about it? Hendricks?

Speaker 12 (41:17):
It's again, if that's the national menu, that's what all
inmates eat in federal prison all across the country. Again,
it's not the best quality, No, it tastes. It probably
tastes a little less than what the schoolhouse square pizza.

Speaker 1 (41:30):
We were getting public school years ago.

Speaker 12 (41:32):
But that's just the way it is. Like you just said, Nancy,
if you don't want to eat prison food, don't do
prison things to get you there to be in the
situation that you're.

Speaker 2 (41:41):
In prison things, prison things. I like the way you
said that. That sounds like something Trey Lovell would say.
Prison things. You mean rape and transporting sex workers across
state lines. Those prison things another thing. Another argument the
defenses making is that he really didn't transport sex workers

(42:04):
across state line to have sex with them, because most
of the time he sat on the size wearing a
burka and didn't actually have sex with the women himself.
And I think we all know why he stayed under
a burka. But that said, uh to you, Rob Shooter,
Seawn Holmes doesn't wait to chill food, I.

Speaker 1 (42:25):
Don't want walk. We really suck it up, man, suck
it up.

Speaker 6 (42:31):
You're asking a man who has not had to suck
it up for decades to suck it up.

Speaker 5 (42:36):
He's not changing, Nancy. This is who he is.

Speaker 6 (42:39):
He's gonna complain, he's gonna be, he's gonna moon, he's
gonna whine.

Speaker 5 (42:43):
And I fear you might even win. If you don't
want to.

Speaker 1 (42:47):
Eat, stop it. Go wash your mouth out with soap.
Young man.

Speaker 2 (42:52):
If the judge falls for this, you know what who's
not gonna fall for is Lynn Shaw? Shaun Holmes did
he wants to another chance?

Speaker 1 (43:00):
But wait a minute, listen to this, Slim. Shall everybody
get ready for a nuclear Blastralen Shaw? What's this islim?
I watched them.

Speaker 14 (43:08):
Both fight their guns. I watched them. I got hit
right here in my nose, in between my eyes, which
means I'm facing directly at you the same way you're
sure that I have on a green shirt.

Speaker 1 (43:20):
I'm certain that he shot me.

Speaker 14 (43:22):
Now was he aiming at me? Was I the object
of his fire? Absolutely not. I should not have been,
because I didn't do anything to him.

Speaker 2 (43:30):
From the art of dialogue, and that is a shooting
victim at the nightclub identifying Sean Combs as shooting carbit.

Speaker 1 (43:37):
Guess what, he walked.

Speaker 2 (43:38):
Free and decided to be a changed man. Wait a minute, Yeah,
there's another case.

Speaker 1 (43:43):
Listen. Dwayne Keathy D.

Speaker 15 (43:45):
Davis claims credit for Tupac's murder on bet And in
his memoir he says, Puffy Combs one at night and
Tupac's heads after their disc track hit them up. When
Davis offers to carry out the hits, Combs agrees to
pay him one million dollars. According to Davis, Eric zip Martin,
a New York drug dealer, suggests they have the perfect

(44:05):
opportunity to carry out Puffy's hit and even provides the gun. Davis, Anderson,
Terrence Brown, and DeAndre Smith stake out the club where
Shakur is performing, but Tupac's a no show and the
Crips abandoned the plan. Driving down the strip, they spaw
Night and Tupac stopped in traffic, Brown flips a U
turn in their white Cadillac. Davis passes Anderson the gun,

(44:25):
and Anderson leans over Smith to shoot Tupac.

Speaker 5 (44:28):
He ever involved in any of these conversations, as.

Speaker 1 (44:32):
It's just.

Speaker 2 (44:34):
This wait a testimony that Sean Combs ordered a million
dollar hit on Tcheapac Shakar, and once again, there he
is out of jail.

Speaker 1 (44:46):
How many chances does one guy get?

Speaker 16 (44:49):
I don't care how many millions of bottles of perfume
he's sold. Why are we talking about Dirty Diddy and
his bottles of perfume? Because those days are over because
I predict I don't care when he gets.

Speaker 1 (45:01):
Out, and he probably will.

Speaker 10 (45:03):
That's the reality of what's going on here with the
justice system. He's not going to be welcomed back, in
my opinion, into his world of vodkas and perfumes and
clothing lines and.

Speaker 1 (45:13):
Things like that.

Speaker 10 (45:14):
But I want to remind everybody about this Mango man.
We have true victims survivors of his for decades of
his his abuse.

Speaker 1 (45:22):
So he's gotten away with and you know what, they're
right now shaking in their boots. They're scared. They're scared
because they know that he seeks, you know, retribution. They're scared.

Speaker 10 (45:31):
They don't have the power and the money to fight him.
And I guarantee, I'm in New York City. There's been
a lot over the decades about him simmering underneath. We
have worked with victims that worked with him years ago
through the decades as well, who.

Speaker 1 (45:43):
Reported things to us.

Speaker 10 (45:45):
Do I have proof, No, they reported things to us
at the Warriors, And you know what, I'm worried about them.
I'm not worried about him and his pretend maggots in
his food. And this is Zaka, one of four kids
in America go to beout hungary every night. So you
know what, I'm worried about these victims, probably in the thousand,
if the numbers were truly to be told, from all
of his freak offs and abuses over the years as
he marched around, strutted around town and around the world.

(46:07):
And he's a global I don't know what entrepreneur. I'm
worried about the people. We're not talking about them. Who's
giving them the services, the psychological services they need. They're trauma.
I'm going to keep saying the word trauma. People do
not understand trauma, what it is and what he has done.
And shame on him. Trauma for his victims. He's got
these daughters, you can't tell me in the back of

(46:30):
their minds somehow, and as they get older, the trauma
that's going to come out. This is their father and
things are on video, complete trauma all around. He's got
a mother. Where's the shame in this guy? We have
never seen him humble once? And you know what, money
talks and crime walks, and now off Diddy and onto
a real American hero.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
Officer Alex Roberts Houston p Day killed in the line
of duty, leaving behind grieving parent American Hero officer Alex Roberts,
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