May 22, 2025 • 40 mins
Testimony today included rapper Scott “Kid Cudi” Mescudi, a former Diddy employee, and a hotel manager who said Diddy’s stays often ended in property damage.
Mescudi testified that he believes Sean “Diddy” Combs broke into his home and firebombed his Porsche because he was dating singer Casandra “Cassie” Ventura.
The general manager of L’Ermitage in Beverly Hills described Combs, a regular guest, as problematic.
Former employee George Kaplan testified that he quit his dream job after witnessing Combs attack a girlfriend in 2015.
The jury has been excused for the holiday weekend
Joining Nancy Grace today:
- Troy Slaten - Los Angeles Criminal Defense Attorney, Slaten Lawyers, APC; Twitter @TroySlaten
- Dr. Bethany Marshall - Psychoanalyst, Author: "Deal Breaker, ” featured in hit show: "Paris in Love" on Peacock, www.drbethanymarshall.com , Instagram & TikTok: drbethanymarshall, Twitter: @DrBethanyLive
- Tom Smith - Former NYPD Detective, Co-Host of the GOLD SHIELDS Podcast, thegoldshieldshow.com, FB & Instagram: @thegoldshieldshow
- Lynn Shaw - Founder and Executive Director of Lynn's Warriors - an organization committed to ending human trafficking and sexual exploitation, Host of Lynn's Warriors on YouTube, website: lynnswarrior.org X: @lynns_warriors Youtube: @LynnsWarriors
- Lauren Conlin - Podcaster, Reporter, Host- Co-Host of "PopCrimeTV" on YouTube, website: www.popcrime.tv andprimetimecrimeshow.com, X- @Conlin_Lauren, IG: @LaurenEmilyConlin, YouTube: @PopCrimeTV
- Sydney Sumner - CrimeOnline Investigative Reporter
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Crime stores with Nancy Grace, Viagra for Ditty, cocaine, ecstasy,
horse Trunk plan, beat.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Birth control, baby oil, astroblide, and condoms, Percocet, week loss pills,
berm count pills.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
It was just I mean, he carried a pharmacy.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
With him straight out to the courthouse. Standing by legal
correspondent Lauren Colin, investigative reporter and start a pup Crime TV. Lauren,
thank you for being with us. What happened in court today?
Speaker 2 (00:36):
We saw Kid Cutty testify and it was fairly quick.
It took a portion of the morning and during opening statements,
the prosecutors gave us a little bit of a taste
about this break in that involved Ditty, an assistant, and
one of his associates. Well, when Kid Cutty aka Scott
Mescadi took the stand, it turns out that Diddy was
(00:58):
the one that broke into his house kidnapped one of
his employees, Capricorn Clark with an associate went over there
looking for Cassie. And this was after Shawn Colmes found
out about this relationship that was going on between Kitcutty
and Cassie. And look, Kid Cuttie said he was a
little confused. Cassie had told him that she and Sean
(01:19):
Colmes were broken up.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
You know, they were on again, off again.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
So when he got this call from Cassie where she
was very, very upset and alarmed. This was in twenty eleven,
he went to pick her up. He took her to
a hotel and it turns out she gave Seawan Colmes
kid Cutty's address. This came out that was a little confusing.
So kid Cutty finds out that Seawan Colmes is at
(01:43):
his house because Capricorn Clark, the assistant, calls him and
Cassie from the driveway in the car very scared and says, look,
Colmes is in the house now.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Kid Cutty gets very upset. He says he's going over there.
So he drives over.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
There and he says that he calls Sean Colmes and
he says, hey, mother, effer, why are you in my house?
And Ditty says something like I just want to talk now.
When he gets to the house, Ditty's no longer there.
He notices that, you know, nothing is broken, nothing is
out of place. But he did have some Christmas presents
for his family in chanel boxes. Those were unwrapped on
(02:21):
the kitchen table, and his dog was.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
Locked in a bathroom. He also noted.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
That the surveillance cameras outside his house appeared to be
pointed down.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
Now after this, you know, he leaves.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
He sees that he's getting text messages from Colms, and
he thinks to himself, Okay, I don't really know if
I want to get involved here because who knows if
he has weapons whatever. So he actually calls the police
and files a police report. Now we've discussed this. It's
December of twenty eleven, Kid Cutty and Cassie go to
Cassie's family home in Connecticut for the holidays. Sean Colmes
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still is texting Kid Cutty, you know, trying to talk
to him, trying to get a meeting with him, and
Cuddy ignores him, and then Cassie ends up breaking up
with him. On his trip, he returns back to la
and a month later, it's January twenty twelve. He is
about forty five minutes away from his house. Kid Cutty
and his dog. Babysitter calls him and says, your car
(03:17):
is on fire in the driveway. A Molotov cocktail has
somehow been thrown in the car. We then see pictures
of the car. The roof is broken in or sunken
in with a hole in it, the inside is all charred.
He calls the police files the police report, and then
a few days later he says, Okay, you know that's it.
I'm contacting colms or We're going to work this out.
(03:39):
So they have a meeting at the La Soho house.
He describes d Rock, the security guard that we've heard
about multiple times, ushering him into this room, and this
got a lot of laughed Nancy. He described Colmbs as
facing this big window in the room with his back
towards him, his hands behind his back, and he actually
(04:00):
said he looked like a marble super villain. So he
said also that Ditty's demeanor was so calm that it
was almost bizarre. He offered him water twice, you know,
and they seemed to work it out.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
And then at the end of.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
The conversation and Cassie joined later by the way, and
at the end of the conversation, Cutty says, they shook
hands and while their hands were clasped, he said, well,
what about my car, and Diddy basically was like, I
don't know anything about your car and they let their
hands go and then you know, they kind of walked
out and that was that. And he said he hadn't
seen him until a few years later. He saw him
(04:37):
again at the Soho house, and this time Diddy was
with his two daughters, and he apologized to Kit Cutty.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
And said, look, I'm sorry for everything that's.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
That happened, anything that went on between us, but Nancy.
When Brian Steele got up to do the cross examination,
he pointed out a couple of things, as that's his job,
but he pointed out that during the break in kid
Cutty's door, there was no damage to it. The door
was wide open and anybody have walked in. He also
pointed out that there were DNA or fingerprints pulled from
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the investigation into the car blow up, and those that
DNA was actually it belonged to a female.
Speaker 5 (05:19):
Okay, let me understand something.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
So one month later, after the whole Cassie Ventura relationship
blows up, one month later, Kid Cutty's car is bombed
with a molotov So isn't it true that Sean Combs
had discussed blowing up his car?
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Yes, Cassie, this is through Cassie She said that this
was discussed and he was going to do it when
one of kid.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
Cutty's friends were present.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
And you know, I believe someone else did see that
in the driveway. I have to go back to my notes,
but I believe after the fact it wasn't just the
dogs it or someone else saw it. But I'll go
back and check. But it definitely she the dog sitter.
She took pictures right away.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Okay, So how did kid Cutty discover that Shawn Comes
was sitting in his place?
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Capricorn Clark be I guess she was an assistant of Ditty's,
but she also was friends with Cassie and then became
friends with kid Cutty. She called from the driveway in
the car. She stayed in the car while Ditty and
an associate went in, and kid Cutty had her on
speakerphone so Cassie could hear as well, and he described
her as being scared and upset.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Okay, So Ditty's assistant calls Kit Cutty and says, Combs
is in your place?
Speaker 5 (06:40):
All right?
Speaker 1 (06:41):
And the cross examination on that was there were no fingerprints.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Well, the cross examination was that look, nothing was was destroyed,
nothing was broken. Your door was wide open, so there
was no forced entry. And you know the cross examination
by Brian Steele, I couldn't actually believe what he caught
kid Cuddy to say. He actually got him to say
that both he and Sean Colmes were quote played by Cassie.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
I mean it was.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
I guess it's the victim's fault again.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Okay, So now we have two guys that were dating Cassie,
to put it euphemistically.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
And now we got played by her.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Forget the split lip and the plastic surgery on the
eye and the beatings they got played.
Speaker 5 (07:27):
It's just so predictable. It's her fault. I forgot that.
Garret Goes needs to remind me of that again. So
the bat.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
You know what, Lauren Comlin, When I left for the
studio early early this morning, I left my back door
open so the dog could go in and out. But
I certainly don't expect Seawn comes to come, PLoP himself
down and start opening presents and basically call and threaten
me saying.
Speaker 5 (07:51):
I'm in your house. I'm in your housewoman, So I
don't care if the door was open, which of course
it was not.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
None of that means any thing when it comes to
a burglary.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
I want to get back to the fact.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Wow, what is Shawn comes clairvoyant? Because he brags I'm
gonna blow up Cutty's car.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
I'm gonna blow it up.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
And then one month later bam, so Sean Combs is
what clairvoyant?
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Listen, I know the job of defense attorneys, and I
have to say, we all, just as Layman's out there,
we knew what was going on. Most of us, we
pay attention to pop culture. We kind of knew about this.
But I felt like what Brian Steele was able to
get out of Kit Cutty in terms of, you know,
not having the exact proof that.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
Diddy did this.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
You know, we had everything else, We had everything within
the circumstance that he did this.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
And Brian Steele again, you know, he did his job.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
He got Kit Cutty to say that he was in
love with Cassie, and he got him to say that
he did feel on quote unquote played, which yes, was
victim blaming absolutely, But the fact that he got him
to say that, I felt like it elicited a few
little mini gasps in the court room.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Okay, wait, so I'm confused here. I hear what you're saying,
but I don't see the primitive value of getting kid
Cuddy to say he loved Cassie.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
Okay, I don't think that was very hard to do.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
He obviously loved Cassie, so I don't see that as
a win win situation. In fact, that's why Combs wanted
to blow up his car because he loved Cassie. Kid
Cutty loved Cassie, and Cassie had feelings to Kid Cutty.
I think that helps the state. So what's the big score?
I'm sorry, I'm not getting it. And I know Steele.
He's a great lawyer. I know him and his wife.
(09:47):
So explain to me what's the big win?
Speaker 5 (09:49):
Lauren Conlin, Well, I.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Would say, if I had to pick a defense win there,
it would be one for him to agree multiple times
that he felt like Cassie kind of pulled the wool
over his eyes because she wasn't totally honest with him
about her relationship with Colms. That would be one.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Do you think maybe it's because she didn't want another
no real nice way to say this ass whipping?
Speaker 5 (10:14):
Did you think maybe that's why?
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Oh my gosh, of course, listen, I am not arguing that.
I am just I'm just trying to pick out what
I feel like could be considered a defense when here.
So that was one okay, yeah, yeah, And then the
other one was him saying, well, you know there was
DNA pulled, you know, from the scene of your car
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the molotov cocktailed.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
Did the police ever tell you that this came from
a female?
Speaker 2 (10:41):
And kid Cutty said no, they never shared that with me,
So it was kind of silent for a minute. And
also Brian Steele, I mean, he got up there and
he was complimenting Scott Meskutty, Kid Cutty. He he was
kind of making him smile and embarrassing him a little bit.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
And at one point there was a sign far and yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
When they came back from the sidebar, kid Cutty even goes, oh,
mister Steele, I just want.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
To clarify something for you, and.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
The judge is like, no, no, no, no, no, no, you
can't talk. And it was this whole moment because you know,
they all seem.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
To have it, you know what Steele has that ability.
I always called it my Andy of Maybury Cross Exam,
where I want something out of the witness, but I
don't want to tear them to shreds. Okay, so I
think that's what Steele was using right there, and he's
very effective at that.
Speaker 5 (11:24):
But I got another question.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
So Shawn Combs's fingerprints and DNA were not on the
car that was blown up with a molotov one month after?
Speaker 5 (11:34):
Did he threatened to blow it up? Okay? Sorry, not impressed.
I mean, do you really.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Think Shawn comes did he was going to run down
to the sip go or the Valero, would pump his
own gas into a container and make his own molotov.
I mean, he didn't even clean up his own disgusting
hotel rooms that were covered with a baby oil slick.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
He made somebody else do it. So of course his
DNA isn't there.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Well, and we and we heard that from George Kaplan
actually yesterday during his testimony, that he had to clean up.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
Bab oil off the table, off the floor or whatever.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
But I have a feeling, Nancy, that we are going
to hear possibly from the person who had to do
this for him, because I mean, at this point, I
guess it's like you have all the circumstances pointing to
Diddy being responsible for this, we just don't have a
paper trail and who knows that that's going to matter
in the end. Again, we're on the second week here,
(12:27):
so we've got a lot to get through. But I'm
very curious if we're going to see, you know, these
these bread prumbs leading to someone in his enterprise who
is responsible for this by his.
Speaker 5 (12:38):
Directive Lauren Colin.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Also, when you don't know a horse, look at his
track record. If you don't know what happened in this case,
look what happened leading up to it. Sean comes makes
his cleanup crew clean up is disgusting, free cough and
pay the damages for the hotel. He makes his underlings
body guard chase dam on Cassie Ventura and physically dreh.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
There you go. You need some deep cleaning now.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Man made his bodyguard go chase down Cassie and drag
her physically back to him.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
He made his assistant go and try.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
To make him get a false police report when Shawn
Colmes attacked his own female chef. I mean, it's always
making some other person do your dirty work. And Shawn
Colmbs never gets his own hands dirty. I guarantee you
he's not the one that threw that molotov. He had
somebody else do it, and that somebody else could very
(13:36):
well come into the courtroom and take the fifth and
tell all, do you think that's gonna happen?
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Lauren Collin, Well, I don't know if you were aware,
but George Kaplan actually was set to take the fifth,
or so we thought. The last couple of days we
had heard this disgust in the courtroom, and then he
got immunity, and I believe this was for him testifying
about buying drugs for Shawn Colmes. And then we knew
that David Jayce also got a profit and got immunity.
(14:02):
So I am not surprised here. I feel like there
definitely will be more. However, however, I do want to
point this out, and I know you're not gonna like this, Nancy,
but both of the assistants, David James and George Kaplan,
they showed Didy respect.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
They gave him a head nod. I mean George Kaplan
this morning before he got.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Off the stand, he actually talked about how, you know,
did he instilled certain worth work ethics in him that
he still uses today. I was a little confused about you.
Speaker 5 (14:33):
You think I care who nodded?
Speaker 1 (14:35):
And did he they're probably afraid their car is gonna
get bombed as soon as they drive away from the courthouse.
Speaker 5 (14:40):
That means nothing to me.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
All that matters to me is a true verdict and
has the state proven the offenses and the indicamond. There
can be all the head nodding you want, Lauren Colin,
don't care. Did he raging over last week's Tootsie Roll reveal?
Speaker 5 (15:00):
Is what?
Speaker 6 (15:02):
It's a complete control freak and then a sick of
us way. I think he's secretly enjoy it. And we're
all talking about day.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
People keep asking the wrong questions about Cassie Ventura and
Shawn COM's aka Ditty's other sex trafficking victims. Everybody says
why did she stay instead of why did he beat her?
Why did he continue to make her participate in free
coughs over her objections? But now we see a very
(15:34):
very successful musical artist thrown in the mix and corroborating
what we know to be true. According to the state.
It's Kid Cuddy. Who is Kid Cuddy.
Speaker 7 (15:48):
Scott Muscootie aka Kid Cuddy is signed to Kanye West's
label Good Music. In late two thousand and eight, after
his song Day and Night gains popularity on MySpace. Cuddie's
debut album on the Moon The End of the Day
shoots the rapper to fame, going quadruple platinum with additional
singles Make Her Say in Pursuit of Happiness.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
Ms.
Speaker 7 (16:08):
Goody also dabbles in film and television, guest starring in
several projects performing music and others, and starring in a
few feature films Need for Speed and Bill and Ted
Face the music.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Straight out to renowned psycho Alice. Joining us out of
la is doctor Bethany Marshall.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
She's the author of deal Breakers.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
You can see her now on Peacock and she s
at doctor Bethany Marshall dot com. Doctor Bethany. I'm sure
I don't have to jog your memory with this, but
we've all seen the videos of room cleaners.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
I'm gonna circle.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Back to the disgusting day after free cough.
Speaker 5 (16:44):
That did he paid to have cleaned up. My point
is he always has somebody else do his dirty work.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
So I just heard Lauren Colin still there standing body
at the courthouse, say who Brian Steele, who's a very
good lawyer. I think really got a lot out of
kid cutting on cross that there was no fingerprint left
behind by Shawn Combs or Shawn Combs DNA. Really, it's
just like Shawn Comb's gonna go fill up at Valero
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and try it over there and make a molotov and
a coke bottle and throw it himself. Yeah, that's not
gonna happen. He has his minions do everything, and I've
got example after example after example. So if he could
make a grown man throw a molotov, right, make a
grown man go buy drugs for him, make a grown
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man clean up his baby oil and seamen, you don't
think he can make Cassie Ventura perform sex acts with
a male sex worker on video.
Speaker 8 (17:48):
Really, of course, Nancy and all that trashed furniture, broken furniture, baby.
Speaker 5 (17:55):
Oils, slick as you called it, all over the place.
Speaker 8 (17:57):
He did that to people too, Okay, he trashed them
as well. The executive assistant got on the stand and
when the attorney quashed examined and said, well, why didn't
you just get the hotel staff to clean up the room,
he said, because he was trying to protect Ditty's image.
He knew that Ditty was menacing, threatening, intimidating, and that
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if he did not protect his boss, he would be
in trouble too. That's why all of these guys are
nodding at p Ditty on the stand.
Speaker 5 (18:26):
They are terrified of him.
Speaker 8 (18:28):
So of course, of course, Passy Ventura is going to
have sex with somebody at Sean Ditty's direction.
Speaker 5 (18:35):
She is why.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
He just says something that actually turned my stomach.
Speaker 5 (18:40):
And it's this.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
I put so many rape victims, sex trafficking victims, I
thought victims on the stand, and when they come into
the courtroom, most of them don't even want to look
at the perpetrator.
Speaker 5 (18:53):
They don't even want to look at them again.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
And the few that summoned up the courage to look
at the man that raped them, that sodomized them, they
look almost meek and mile. I've seen them kind of acknowledged,
not necessarily nod, but acknowledge the rapist. They meet eyes,
and they really don't know how to act. So I
(19:17):
am not impressed at all by anyone that comes to
the courtroom and nods at DIDDI that means nothing to me.
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace to Tom Smith joining me
(19:37):
formern NYPD detective thirty years Narcotics robbery gang, and that's
what I'm interested in right now, Tom Smith, and he
is the star of the Gooldshieldshow dot com.
Speaker 5 (19:49):
Tom, thank you for being with us.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Right before I left the DA's office to go to
court TV, a case I was working. I was going
to be a death penalty case where two little in
fi babies still in their layettes, right newborns.
Speaker 5 (20:04):
So I recall they were baby girls.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Were with their mom in a two story apartment, and
it was a gang war, and the women in one
gang had gotten into an argument with the women in
the other gang whatever over some clothes.
Speaker 5 (20:21):
So the game members show up. They make a molotov.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
And as they throw it into the upstairs window where
the two infants newborns are laying, they say, quote, let's
fry them babies.
Speaker 5 (20:40):
Fry them as in hot oil, fry them.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
And they set the place on fire, and the babies
were burned alive.
Speaker 5 (20:47):
They did not die of smoke inhalation.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Their short time on this earth ended when they were
burned alive. I had created a specialty of arson investigations.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
And can I tell you there's nothing worse, nothing worse
then what happens to a burn victim.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
I mean the deadly use of fire and a very
uncontrollable device such as a molotoph He needs to go
under the jail if he ordered this thing. Explain what
is a molotov and why is it so unpredictable?
Speaker 9 (21:24):
Well, molotov cocktail is a bottle that's made with gasoline
in it, with a rag on it, that's lit on
fire and thrown. And the destructive part of it, like
you described, Nancy, is once it shatters, those flames go everywhere.
It just it is a broad area that is covered
by this Molotov cocktail that can ignite anything in its path.
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And that's why they're so dangerous. And it doesn't surprise
me with this that Sean would have had a part
in this, because that's what criminal enterprise bosses do. They
order their little minions to do what they want and
they do them. And why it because of intimidation, because
of a power need. That's what's going on here and
that's what this old Rico case is about. Sean Comb's
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running this organization and putting acts like this into motion
to intimidate anyone involved with another group or his group,
to make sure they stay in mind.
Speaker 5 (22:18):
Well, you read my mind.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
That's my next point of legal discussion, and that is
how kid Cuddy, who, according to Lauren Collin, I have
no reason to doubt her, was very affable and likable,
very even killed on the stand. That's good because that
makes the jury believe.
Speaker 5 (22:37):
Him and like him.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
If someone is irritating or just you know, agonizing to
listen to, the jury tunes out.
Speaker 5 (22:44):
But Cuddy was a great witness for the state.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
But Troy Slayton joining me, renowned criminal defense attorney, very wily,
joining me out of la at Slayton Lawyers, Troy Slayton.
Don't you just love it when your client, your defendant,
your criminal defendant, is also clairvoyant, Because you remember, of course,
(23:09):
Scott Peterson said this, this is gonna be my first
Christmas without my wife.
Speaker 10 (23:14):
She died.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
I'm a widower at BAM.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Two weeks later she was dead and he was a widower.
And then let's see Oj Simpson Orenthal, James Simpson. That's
a great example. He had a dream where he.
Speaker 5 (23:28):
Murdered Nicole Brown, a clairvoyant dream.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
And here it is again. Sean com says, thirty days
before I'm a blow up Cutty's car, his Porsche it's gone,
and believe it or not, just a few short days later,
kid Cutty's.
Speaker 5 (23:47):
Car blows up by molotov.
Speaker 6 (23:50):
Hmm, well, Nancy, prosecutors didn't charge him with using a
Molotov cocktail, using a destructive device, and the statute of
limitations on that would have run out in like twenty fifteen.
Because this allegedly happened in twenty ten, twenty eleven, all
the statutes of limitation would have run.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Out twenty five indictment prosecutors state quote Comb's quote relied
on employees, resources, influence of a multifaceted business empire he
controlled and attempted to engage and among so many others,
sex trafficking, forced labor, kidnapping, Our.
Speaker 5 (24:30):
Sun put him up.
Speaker 6 (24:33):
So those are those are.
Speaker 5 (24:35):
It is part of the indictment. So Jurassic erase.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
You want to start over, you want a little do over,
because he is charged with that.
Speaker 6 (24:44):
They're alleging that. And what executors way way over charge
this case. And that's why his lawyers are confident that
the government is going to lose in this case. Because
for racketeering rico, which normally is charged against mob bosses,
big minal mobster organizations. They have to prove that all
of these things were part of advancing the Diddy organization.
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So to make TV shows, he had to have arson.
In order to produce records, he had to blow up
a car or have freak offs. I think what the
problem here is, Oh my gosh, news.
Speaker 5 (25:20):
Alert reducing records. Charged with trug. He's not charged with that.
This guy is following. Actually he is charged.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
I'm looking right at it, but I do respect something
you just did.
Speaker 5 (25:36):
When you got busted.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
You immediately came up with a brand new argument that
takes a lot of skill.
Speaker 5 (25:43):
Slate.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
He's obsess the tootsy roll, the size of a tipsy roll.
Speaker 5 (25:50):
Et bdddy et bddity, the tootsy roll Sewan comes is
tutsi roll.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
We are alive at the courthouse, bringing you the latest
in the United States versus Sean in a multi count
federal indictment. Joining me an all star panel to Sidney
Sumner very quickly, Sydney Crime Stories, investigative reporter. We are
hearing the state laying a foundation. This is why Kid
Cutty's testimony is so important. He's not just a pretty face,
(26:17):
He's not just a talented musical artist. But he is
laying a keystone, a keystone for the state sex trafficking
and reco criminal Enterprise case. Now, we heard Cuddy on
the stand talking about the molotov right blowing up his car.
(26:39):
There were other assistants that did Seawan Comb's bidding. But
what can you tell me about Shawn Combs continuing to
call kid Cuddy long after he and Ventiro had broken up?
Straight out to Lynn Shaw joining me, founder direct of
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Land's Warriors, a nonprofit dedicated to ending sex attacks and
sex trafficking. Lynn, can you really visualize Sean Comb's doing
his own dirty work? You think he was over at
the quick stop getting the gas and making them molotov
and throwing it atbl n Are you surprised? I mean,
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does of high powered pimp do all the beatings of
the women?
Speaker 5 (27:27):
Does he he go buy the drugs to keep them high? No,
he has millions to do that.
Speaker 11 (27:32):
Well, Nancy, I'm here in New York City and for
years they've been known as Dirty Diddy Disciples. I am
not kidding When I use Dirty Diddy, that's what on
the street. That's what women would report back to me
men as well, you know, and I also want to
point out I think, I hope we hear about it
over the course of this whole trial. There were lots
of women involved that helped him as well. These guys
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never get their hands dirty. They're in control. I am
hoping our focus at the Warriors is, Oh, he's victims survivors.
I hope, Nancy, I'm so afraid. I want these sex
trafficking charges to stick. I hope they're laying out for
this reco case, for this engaging in prostitution across state.
I hope because we have so many victims right now
looking at this reporting back to me what's going on.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
They can't watch something earlier Linshaw about all of the
minions that did Shawn Comes bidding. And when we first
started investigating this case and covering it, I and many
of you on the panel predicted that there would be
codefendants turned witnesses, and that is exactly what we're seeing
right now. People that do Shawn Comes is bidding. Why
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is it important? Because that is what a criminal enterprise is. Again,
think about Tony Soprano. You saw the Sopranos right on HBOS.
Speaker 5 (28:48):
Streaming right now.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Still Soprano ran the organization, but there are all sorts
of people working in for him and around him in
his criminal enterprise. One would sell stolen items TVs VCRs.
Another would be charge of pimping running a strip bar.
Another would launder money. They all were part of the
criminal enterprise. Now we see former assistant George Kaplan on
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the stand. Now talk about an unindicted co conspirator.
Speaker 5 (29:20):
That would be him. Listen.
Speaker 10 (29:22):
Assistant George Kaplan says he was sent to pick up
drugs for his famous boss. Kaplin says Sean Combs gave
him cash and a phone number to.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Call crime stories with Nancy Grace, So Shawn Combs could
talk a grown man into going and buying his drugs
for him.
Speaker 5 (29:49):
No wonder this went down in the courtroom. Listen.
Speaker 12 (29:52):
Diddy's former assistant, George Kaplan takes the stand. Kaplan tells
the judge he is only here because of a subpoena
and he plans to invoc his Fifth Amendment right. Judge
super money and grants Kaplin immunity. The deal does not
cover perjury.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
So in order to get his testimony, Kaplan is given immunity.
Speaker 5 (30:08):
What does that mean?
Speaker 1 (30:09):
It means he cannot be prosecuted for anything he testifies
to on the stand, including going and buying ecstasy MDMA,
and god only knows what else. So he talks a
grown man into buying drugs. Let's see a little snippet
of all the drugs seized that Shawn comes mansion. Now
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we know that Frank Black was a name, a pseudonym
used to check Sean comes in and out of hotel rooms.
Also used to get fake prescriptions, which is illegal. You
think that Shawn comes rolled up in his suv to
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the CVS or the Dwayne Read or the Walgreens and
god his own stuff.
Speaker 5 (30:57):
No, uh huh, there had to ammanion. Listen.
Speaker 10 (31:01):
Former assistant George Kaplan testifies that on Comb's or chief
of staff Christina Korum's instructions, he traveled ahead of Combs
to set up his lodging, often asked to book under
the name Frank Black.
Speaker 5 (31:13):
Caplan says the.
Speaker 10 (31:14):
First time he was asked to set up Comb's accommodations,
he was given a prepared bag to unpack. It contained clothes,
a speaker, candles, liquor, baby oil, and astroglide. On subsequent roomstocks,
Caplan says he often purchased baby oil and astroglide on
his company credit card.
Speaker 5 (31:32):
Okay, legal objection ew okay.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Troy Slayton Shawn Holmes convinced Caplan to perform crimes for
him buying drugs, get illegal drugs such as MDMA, also
convinced him to get prescription drugs under a fake name,
where Slaton also a crime. So now he is talking
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his and to buying his astro glide, lubricant, his baby oil,
his candles, his liquor, all of that and importantly critically
using the company credit card choice latent well.
Speaker 6 (32:16):
Buy an astro glide, although it may sound gross in
this situation, not illegal. Buying drugs, yes, illegal, but that
doesn't make a rico case. The government still has to
prove the purchasing the drugs was to advance the criminal enterprise,
was to advance his business interest. His legitimate business interested.
Speaker 5 (32:40):
Too, all those drugs himself.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
No, that was being dropped in the woman's drinks. I mean,
you need to go back to law school, man and
take a refresher course on rico. Rico is anything any
act that advances a crime, and the crimes have to
be laid out in the end diament, which they are.
I've already read them to you. I'll read them again.
We're asking for labor, kidnapping, a stressing.
Speaker 6 (33:03):
Those are all terrible things, but that doesn't make rico.
You have to prove what he is saying.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Diddy was using all those drugs for he'd be dead
if he took them all.
Speaker 5 (33:13):
He was fading them to these women and their drinks.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
What do you think the astrogline the baby oles for
for a sreat call according to these women against their
will and bringing in male sex workers from another state
that is against the law.
Speaker 6 (33:26):
Recoparent, that would be that that's sex trafficking. So we're
mixing up two different things there, Nancy, you know that
those are separate.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Also the environment, Yes, but you're the one who said
had nothing.
Speaker 5 (33:37):
To do with it. It has everything to do with it,
just like the baby oil.
Speaker 6 (33:40):
Just because somebody is having a rock star is having
a drug fueled party, doesn't mean that they're guilty of rico.
Speaker 5 (33:48):
Of racketeering.
Speaker 6 (33:49):
That's what's used for for mobsters that are trying to
use trying to sell drugs and use those things to
make money.
Speaker 10 (33:59):
Cassie said Combs wanted her glistening at all times and
had her reapply heated baby oil as often as every
five minutes, and during one performance, even made her get
into a.
Speaker 5 (34:10):
Kiddie pool of baby oil.
Speaker 10 (34:12):
Afterwards, staff members were charged with cleaning up but with
baby oil and bodily fluids all over the floors, walls,
and door handles. Combs was frequently charged for damages to
hotel rooms, negotiations handled by Combe's assistants.
Speaker 5 (34:26):
Again, legal objection ew all.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
Right to doctor Bethany Marshall, let's see that video of
the literally Dixie dumpster going down the.
Speaker 5 (34:35):
Hallway of the hotel.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Yes, we're gonna need a lot of chlorox to clean
this room, doctor Bethany, how do you convince grown men
and women to do your illegal bidding and clean up
your bodily fluids, your sperm, your baby oil, your astroglide,
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and they do.
Speaker 11 (34:59):
It your dildo, all of it, Nancy.
Speaker 8 (35:02):
Probably what he did is he started out being super
charming with them, pretending to be their friend, buying them gifts,
pretending to advance their interests in some way, and once
he gained their trust, he would send them out on
some criminal act. Once they committed the criminal act, now
they were stuck and could not get away.
Speaker 5 (35:20):
Isn't it true, Cydney Summer.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
That sworn testimony is that Shawn Colmes tried to bribe
a security guy.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
That's correct, Nancy. He tried to hand this security guard
a stack of money as big as his hand to
leave them alone and to just drop the whole situation
and not get Cassie Ventura out of that Intercontinental Hotel room.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
So Tom Smith, a former NYPD star of Goalshields podcast
Tom Smith, I guess it's just a diddy world and
we all live in in it because all these people
are so afraid or have their careers at stake, they
go along with it. It will be a cold day
in HTL that I would go to clean up somebody
else's bodily fluids unless my children threw it.
Speaker 5 (36:03):
It's not gonna happen. But all these people just went
along to get along.
Speaker 9 (36:08):
And it's influence and it's his power that controlled them.
What can he do for them in the future, How
can he propel their jobs, their careers anything like that.
That all is involved in this power trip that he
was on. And like you know, Nancy, once you get
away with it a little bit, you keep pushing the
envelope to the next level, to the next level, and
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that's where you get into this crime boss that he
is of controlling people with intimidation, with acts of violence
and so forth. And it's just all part of Sean
diddy Combe's persona and his personality of being this boss.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
That's right, It's Diddy's world and we're all just living
in it. Not right now, Shawn Combs in a federal
courthouse being charged and being tried for a multi count
federal indictment.
Speaker 5 (36:57):
And what Rico means, which is the.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
Main major prize for the state, is that Shawn comes
headed up a criminal enterprise involving many, many crimes including arson,
blowing up kid Cuddy's car. That is why Cuddy is
so important to this case. And Sidney Sumner.
Speaker 5 (37:18):
In a nutshell.
Speaker 1 (37:20):
I'm wondering if we're going to see hitch person. Christina Korum,
she is accused. She denies it all of recruiting women
for free coughs, standing witness to a gang rape, trying
to place an IUD and a victim.
Speaker 5 (37:35):
What I'm saying is she denies it all. But just
like these other assistants.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
So many people were doing his bidding because they were
afraid well, and.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
We've heard from other employees, anonymous sources who have not
been on the stand, that many of them believed Christina
Korum was in love with Sean Combs and did a
lot of the things she did because of that. Other
employees say, I've seen a Quorum threw them under the bus,
made things that may have not been their fault look
like their fault, so that she looked like the most
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capable person on his staff that he could always trust
and always come to. George Caplan even testified that he
told Christino Quorum about the physical abuse he saw between
Combs and Kathy as his reason for putting, and Quorum
was sad and disappointed that that was something that he witnessed,
But she understood why he left and that was the
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end of it. There was no conversation about, well, what
did you see? Should we talk to the police, should
we do No. Her loyalty was to Combs, and she
hoped that George Caplan would have discretion about what he saw.
Speaker 5 (38:47):
You hear that, Troy Slayton, it's the death nail. It's
the death nail.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
Kid Cutty's testimony and the testimony of all these other assistants.
Speaker 5 (38:58):
The Nail and the coffin the death knel. For Diddy, it.
Speaker 6 (39:03):
Might be Nancy, but the government is still going to
have to weave together all these disparate dots and tie
it together to show that this was an overarching grand
conspiracy to further a criminal enterprise. And I think we're
going to hear a lot from Diddy's attorneys when it
comes time for his defense to put on their presentation.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
Well, you're right, Slaton. I don't know why they've got
out their slaves, but you're absolutely right. In the state
better be ready. We remember an American hero, Deputy share
of Hunter Ready, just twenty seven, shot and killed in
the line of duty, leaving behind beautiful young wife Bettina
and their children Brantley, Caden, and Katie. American hero Deputy
(39:48):
Shareff Hunter Ready Nancy Gray signing off goodbye friend
Speaker 3 (40:00):
By
Crime stores with Nancy Grace, Viagra for Ditty, cocaine, ecstasy,
horse Trunk plan, beat.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Birth control, baby oil, astroblide, and condoms, Percocet, week loss pills,
berm count pills.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
It was just I mean, he carried a pharmacy.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
With him straight out to the courthouse. Standing by legal
correspondent Lauren Colin, investigative reporter and start a pup Crime TV. Lauren,
thank you for being with us. What happened in court today?
Speaker 2 (00:36):
We saw Kid Cutty testify and it was fairly quick.
It took a portion of the morning and during opening statements,
the prosecutors gave us a little bit of a taste
about this break in that involved Ditty, an assistant, and
one of his associates. Well, when Kid Cutty aka Scott
Mescadi took the stand, it turns out that Diddy was
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the one that broke into his house kidnapped one of
his employees, Capricorn Clark with an associate went over there
looking for Cassie. And this was after Shawn Colmes found
out about this relationship that was going on between Kitcutty
and Cassie. And look, Kid Cuttie said he was a
little confused. Cassie had told him that she and Sean
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Colmes were broken up.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
You know, they were on again, off again.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
So when he got this call from Cassie where she
was very, very upset and alarmed. This was in twenty eleven,
he went to pick her up. He took her to
a hotel and it turns out she gave Seawan Colmes
kid Cutty's address. This came out that was a little confusing.
So kid Cutty finds out that Seawan Colmes is at
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his house because Capricorn Clark, the assistant, calls him and
Cassie from the driveway in the car very scared and says, look,
Colmes is in the house now.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Kid Cutty gets very upset. He says he's going over there.
So he drives over.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
There and he says that he calls Sean Colmes and
he says, hey, mother, effer, why are you in my house?
And Ditty says something like I just want to talk now.
When he gets to the house, Ditty's no longer there.
He notices that, you know, nothing is broken, nothing is
out of place. But he did have some Christmas presents
for his family in chanel boxes. Those were unwrapped on
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the kitchen table, and his dog was.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
Locked in a bathroom. He also noted.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
That the surveillance cameras outside his house appeared to be
pointed down.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
Now after this, you know, he leaves.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
He sees that he's getting text messages from Colms, and
he thinks to himself, Okay, I don't really know if
I want to get involved here because who knows if
he has weapons whatever. So he actually calls the police
and files a police report. Now we've discussed this. It's
December of twenty eleven, Kid Cutty and Cassie go to
Cassie's family home in Connecticut for the holidays. Sean Colmes
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still is texting Kid Cutty, you know, trying to talk
to him, trying to get a meeting with him, and
Cuddy ignores him, and then Cassie ends up breaking up
with him. On his trip, he returns back to la
and a month later, it's January twenty twelve. He is
about forty five minutes away from his house. Kid Cutty
and his dog. Babysitter calls him and says, your car
(03:17):
is on fire in the driveway. A Molotov cocktail has
somehow been thrown in the car. We then see pictures
of the car. The roof is broken in or sunken
in with a hole in it, the inside is all charred.
He calls the police files the police report, and then
a few days later he says, Okay, you know that's it.
I'm contacting colms or We're going to work this out.
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So they have a meeting at the La Soho house.
He describes d Rock, the security guard that we've heard
about multiple times, ushering him into this room, and this
got a lot of laughed Nancy. He described Colmbs as
facing this big window in the room with his back
towards him, his hands behind his back, and he actually
(04:00):
said he looked like a marble super villain. So he
said also that Ditty's demeanor was so calm that it
was almost bizarre. He offered him water twice, you know,
and they seemed to work it out.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
And then at the end of.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
The conversation and Cassie joined later by the way, and
at the end of the conversation, Cutty says, they shook
hands and while their hands were clasped, he said, well,
what about my car, and Diddy basically was like, I
don't know anything about your car and they let their
hands go and then you know, they kind of walked
out and that was that. And he said he hadn't
seen him until a few years later. He saw him
(04:37):
again at the Soho house, and this time Diddy was
with his two daughters, and he apologized to Kit Cutty.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
And said, look, I'm sorry for everything that's.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
That happened, anything that went on between us, but Nancy.
When Brian Steele got up to do the cross examination,
he pointed out a couple of things, as that's his job,
but he pointed out that during the break in kid
Cutty's door, there was no damage to it. The door
was wide open and anybody have walked in. He also
pointed out that there were DNA or fingerprints pulled from
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the investigation into the car blow up, and those that
DNA was actually it belonged to a female.
Speaker 5 (05:19):
Okay, let me understand something.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
So one month later, after the whole Cassie Ventura relationship
blows up, one month later, Kid Cutty's car is bombed
with a molotov So isn't it true that Sean Combs
had discussed blowing up his car?
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Yes, Cassie, this is through Cassie She said that this
was discussed and he was going to do it when
one of kid.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
Cutty's friends were present.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
And you know, I believe someone else did see that
in the driveway. I have to go back to my notes,
but I believe after the fact it wasn't just the
dogs it or someone else saw it. But I'll go
back and check. But it definitely she the dog sitter.
She took pictures right away.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Okay, So how did kid Cutty discover that Shawn Comes
was sitting in his place?
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Capricorn Clark be I guess she was an assistant of Ditty's,
but she also was friends with Cassie and then became
friends with kid Cutty. She called from the driveway in
the car. She stayed in the car while Ditty and
an associate went in, and kid Cutty had her on
speakerphone so Cassie could hear as well, and he described
her as being scared and upset.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Okay, So Ditty's assistant calls Kit Cutty and says, Combs
is in your place?
Speaker 5 (06:40):
All right?
Speaker 1 (06:41):
And the cross examination on that was there were no fingerprints.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Well, the cross examination was that look, nothing was was destroyed,
nothing was broken. Your door was wide open, so there
was no forced entry. And you know the cross examination
by Brian Steele, I couldn't actually believe what he caught
kid Cuddy to say. He actually got him to say
that both he and Sean Colmes were quote played by Cassie.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
I mean it was.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
I guess it's the victim's fault again.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Okay, So now we have two guys that were dating Cassie,
to put it euphemistically.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
And now we got played by her.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Forget the split lip and the plastic surgery on the
eye and the beatings they got played.
Speaker 5 (07:27):
It's just so predictable. It's her fault. I forgot that.
Garret Goes needs to remind me of that again. So
the bat.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
You know what, Lauren Comlin, When I left for the
studio early early this morning, I left my back door
open so the dog could go in and out. But
I certainly don't expect Seawn comes to come, PLoP himself
down and start opening presents and basically call and threaten
me saying.
Speaker 5 (07:51):
I'm in your house. I'm in your housewoman, So I
don't care if the door was open, which of course
it was not.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
None of that means any thing when it comes to
a burglary.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
I want to get back to the fact.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Wow, what is Shawn comes clairvoyant? Because he brags I'm
gonna blow up Cutty's car.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
I'm gonna blow it up.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
And then one month later bam, so Sean Combs is
what clairvoyant?
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Listen, I know the job of defense attorneys, and I
have to say, we all, just as Layman's out there,
we knew what was going on. Most of us, we
pay attention to pop culture. We kind of knew about this.
But I felt like what Brian Steele was able to
get out of Kit Cutty in terms of, you know,
not having the exact proof that.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
Diddy did this.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
You know, we had everything else, We had everything within
the circumstance that he did this.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
And Brian Steele again, you know, he did his job.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
He got Kit Cutty to say that he was in
love with Cassie, and he got him to say that
he did feel on quote unquote played, which yes, was
victim blaming absolutely, But the fact that he got him
to say that, I felt like it elicited a few
little mini gasps in the court room.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Okay, wait, so I'm confused here. I hear what you're saying,
but I don't see the primitive value of getting kid
Cuddy to say he loved Cassie.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
Okay, I don't think that was very hard to do.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
He obviously loved Cassie, so I don't see that as
a win win situation. In fact, that's why Combs wanted
to blow up his car because he loved Cassie. Kid
Cutty loved Cassie, and Cassie had feelings to Kid Cutty.
I think that helps the state. So what's the big score?
I'm sorry, I'm not getting it. And I know Steele.
He's a great lawyer. I know him and his wife.
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So explain to me what's the big win?
Speaker 5 (09:49):
Lauren Conlin, Well, I.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Would say, if I had to pick a defense win there,
it would be one for him to agree multiple times
that he felt like Cassie kind of pulled the wool
over his eyes because she wasn't totally honest with him
about her relationship with Colms. That would be one.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Do you think maybe it's because she didn't want another
no real nice way to say this ass whipping?
Speaker 5 (10:14):
Did you think maybe that's why?
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Oh my gosh, of course, listen, I am not arguing that.
I am just I'm just trying to pick out what
I feel like could be considered a defense when here.
So that was one okay, yeah, yeah, And then the
other one was him saying, well, you know there was
DNA pulled, you know, from the scene of your car
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the molotov cocktailed.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
Did the police ever tell you that this came from
a female?
Speaker 2 (10:41):
And kid Cutty said no, they never shared that with me,
So it was kind of silent for a minute. And
also Brian Steele, I mean, he got up there and
he was complimenting Scott Meskutty, Kid Cutty. He he was
kind of making him smile and embarrassing him a little bit.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
And at one point there was a sign far and yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
When they came back from the sidebar, kid Cutty even goes, oh,
mister Steele, I just want.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
To clarify something for you, and.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
The judge is like, no, no, no, no, no, no, you
can't talk. And it was this whole moment because you know,
they all seem.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
To have it, you know what Steele has that ability.
I always called it my Andy of Maybury Cross Exam,
where I want something out of the witness, but I
don't want to tear them to shreds. Okay, so I
think that's what Steele was using right there, and he's
very effective at that.
Speaker 5 (11:24):
But I got another question.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
So Shawn Combs's fingerprints and DNA were not on the
car that was blown up with a molotov one month after?
Speaker 5 (11:34):
Did he threatened to blow it up? Okay? Sorry, not impressed.
I mean, do you really.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Think Shawn comes did he was going to run down
to the sip go or the Valero, would pump his
own gas into a container and make his own molotov.
I mean, he didn't even clean up his own disgusting
hotel rooms that were covered with a baby oil slick.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
He made somebody else do it. So of course his
DNA isn't there.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Well, and we and we heard that from George Kaplan
actually yesterday during his testimony, that he had to clean up.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
Bab oil off the table, off the floor or whatever.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
But I have a feeling, Nancy, that we are going
to hear possibly from the person who had to do
this for him, because I mean, at this point, I
guess it's like you have all the circumstances pointing to
Diddy being responsible for this, we just don't have a
paper trail and who knows that that's going to matter
in the end. Again, we're on the second week here,
(12:27):
so we've got a lot to get through. But I'm
very curious if we're going to see, you know, these
these bread prumbs leading to someone in his enterprise who
is responsible for this by his.
Speaker 5 (12:38):
Directive Lauren Colin.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Also, when you don't know a horse, look at his
track record. If you don't know what happened in this case,
look what happened leading up to it. Sean comes makes
his cleanup crew clean up is disgusting, free cough and
pay the damages for the hotel. He makes his underlings
body guard chase dam on Cassie Ventura and physically dreh.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
There you go. You need some deep cleaning now.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Man made his bodyguard go chase down Cassie and drag
her physically back to him.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
He made his assistant go and try.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
To make him get a false police report when Shawn
Colmes attacked his own female chef. I mean, it's always
making some other person do your dirty work. And Shawn
Colmbs never gets his own hands dirty. I guarantee you
he's not the one that threw that molotov. He had
somebody else do it, and that somebody else could very
(13:36):
well come into the courtroom and take the fifth and
tell all, do you think that's gonna happen?
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Lauren Collin, Well, I don't know if you were aware,
but George Kaplan actually was set to take the fifth,
or so we thought. The last couple of days we
had heard this disgust in the courtroom, and then he
got immunity, and I believe this was for him testifying
about buying drugs for Shawn Colmes. And then we knew
that David Jayce also got a profit and got immunity.
(14:02):
So I am not surprised here. I feel like there
definitely will be more. However, however, I do want to
point this out, and I know you're not gonna like this, Nancy,
but both of the assistants, David James and George Kaplan,
they showed Didy respect.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
They gave him a head nod. I mean George Kaplan
this morning before he got.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Off the stand, he actually talked about how, you know,
did he instilled certain worth work ethics in him that
he still uses today. I was a little confused about you.
Speaker 5 (14:33):
You think I care who nodded?
Speaker 1 (14:35):
And did he they're probably afraid their car is gonna
get bombed as soon as they drive away from the courthouse.
Speaker 5 (14:40):
That means nothing to me.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
All that matters to me is a true verdict and
has the state proven the offenses and the indicamond. There
can be all the head nodding you want, Lauren Colin,
don't care. Did he raging over last week's Tootsie Roll reveal?
Speaker 5 (15:00):
Is what?
Speaker 6 (15:02):
It's a complete control freak and then a sick of
us way. I think he's secretly enjoy it. And we're
all talking about day.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
People keep asking the wrong questions about Cassie Ventura and
Shawn COM's aka Ditty's other sex trafficking victims. Everybody says
why did she stay instead of why did he beat her?
Why did he continue to make her participate in free
coughs over her objections? But now we see a very
(15:34):
very successful musical artist thrown in the mix and corroborating
what we know to be true. According to the state.
It's Kid Cuddy. Who is Kid Cuddy.
Speaker 7 (15:48):
Scott Muscootie aka Kid Cuddy is signed to Kanye West's
label Good Music. In late two thousand and eight, after
his song Day and Night gains popularity on MySpace. Cuddie's
debut album on the Moon The End of the Day
shoots the rapper to fame, going quadruple platinum with additional
singles Make Her Say in Pursuit of Happiness.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
Ms.
Speaker 7 (16:08):
Goody also dabbles in film and television, guest starring in
several projects performing music and others, and starring in a
few feature films Need for Speed and Bill and Ted
Face the music.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Straight out to renowned psycho Alice. Joining us out of
la is doctor Bethany Marshall.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
She's the author of deal Breakers.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
You can see her now on Peacock and she s
at doctor Bethany Marshall dot com. Doctor Bethany. I'm sure
I don't have to jog your memory with this, but
we've all seen the videos of room cleaners.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
I'm gonna circle.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Back to the disgusting day after free cough.
Speaker 5 (16:44):
That did he paid to have cleaned up. My point
is he always has somebody else do his dirty work.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
So I just heard Lauren Colin still there standing body
at the courthouse, say who Brian Steele, who's a very
good lawyer. I think really got a lot out of
kid cutting on cross that there was no fingerprint left
behind by Shawn Combs or Shawn Combs DNA. Really, it's
just like Shawn Comb's gonna go fill up at Valero
(17:16):
and try it over there and make a molotov and
a coke bottle and throw it himself. Yeah, that's not
gonna happen. He has his minions do everything, and I've
got example after example after example. So if he could
make a grown man throw a molotov, right, make a
grown man go buy drugs for him, make a grown
(17:36):
man clean up his baby oil and seamen, you don't
think he can make Cassie Ventura perform sex acts with
a male sex worker on video.
Speaker 8 (17:48):
Really, of course, Nancy and all that trashed furniture, broken furniture, baby.
Speaker 5 (17:55):
Oils, slick as you called it, all over the place.
Speaker 8 (17:57):
He did that to people too, Okay, he trashed them
as well. The executive assistant got on the stand and
when the attorney quashed examined and said, well, why didn't
you just get the hotel staff to clean up the room,
he said, because he was trying to protect Ditty's image.
He knew that Ditty was menacing, threatening, intimidating, and that
(18:19):
if he did not protect his boss, he would be
in trouble too. That's why all of these guys are
nodding at p Ditty on the stand.
Speaker 5 (18:26):
They are terrified of him.
Speaker 8 (18:28):
So of course, of course, Passy Ventura is going to
have sex with somebody at Sean Ditty's direction.
Speaker 5 (18:35):
She is why.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
He just says something that actually turned my stomach.
Speaker 5 (18:40):
And it's this.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
I put so many rape victims, sex trafficking victims, I
thought victims on the stand, and when they come into
the courtroom, most of them don't even want to look
at the perpetrator.
Speaker 5 (18:53):
They don't even want to look at them again.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
And the few that summoned up the courage to look
at the man that raped them, that sodomized them, they
look almost meek and mile. I've seen them kind of acknowledged,
not necessarily nod, but acknowledge the rapist. They meet eyes,
and they really don't know how to act. So I
(19:17):
am not impressed at all by anyone that comes to
the courtroom and nods at DIDDI that means nothing to me.
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace to Tom Smith joining me
(19:37):
formern NYPD detective thirty years Narcotics robbery gang, and that's
what I'm interested in right now, Tom Smith, and he
is the star of the Gooldshieldshow dot com.
Speaker 5 (19:49):
Tom, thank you for being with us.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Right before I left the DA's office to go to
court TV, a case I was working. I was going
to be a death penalty case where two little in
fi babies still in their layettes, right newborns.
Speaker 5 (20:04):
So I recall they were baby girls.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Were with their mom in a two story apartment, and
it was a gang war, and the women in one
gang had gotten into an argument with the women in
the other gang whatever over some clothes.
Speaker 5 (20:21):
So the game members show up. They make a molotov.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
And as they throw it into the upstairs window where
the two infants newborns are laying, they say, quote, let's
fry them babies.
Speaker 5 (20:40):
Fry them as in hot oil, fry them.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
And they set the place on fire, and the babies
were burned alive.
Speaker 5 (20:47):
They did not die of smoke inhalation.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Their short time on this earth ended when they were
burned alive. I had created a specialty of arson investigations.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
And can I tell you there's nothing worse, nothing worse
then what happens to a burn victim.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
I mean the deadly use of fire and a very
uncontrollable device such as a molotoph He needs to go
under the jail if he ordered this thing. Explain what
is a molotov and why is it so unpredictable?
Speaker 9 (21:24):
Well, molotov cocktail is a bottle that's made with gasoline
in it, with a rag on it, that's lit on
fire and thrown. And the destructive part of it, like
you described, Nancy, is once it shatters, those flames go everywhere.
It just it is a broad area that is covered
by this Molotov cocktail that can ignite anything in its path.
(21:45):
And that's why they're so dangerous. And it doesn't surprise
me with this that Sean would have had a part
in this, because that's what criminal enterprise bosses do. They
order their little minions to do what they want and
they do them. And why it because of intimidation, because
of a power need. That's what's going on here and
that's what this old Rico case is about. Sean Comb's
(22:08):
running this organization and putting acts like this into motion
to intimidate anyone involved with another group or his group,
to make sure they stay in mind.
Speaker 5 (22:18):
Well, you read my mind.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
That's my next point of legal discussion, and that is
how kid Cuddy, who, according to Lauren Collin, I have
no reason to doubt her, was very affable and likable,
very even killed on the stand. That's good because that
makes the jury believe.
Speaker 5 (22:37):
Him and like him.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
If someone is irritating or just you know, agonizing to
listen to, the jury tunes out.
Speaker 5 (22:44):
But Cuddy was a great witness for the state.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
But Troy Slayton joining me, renowned criminal defense attorney, very wily,
joining me out of la at Slayton Lawyers, Troy Slayton.
Don't you just love it when your client, your defendant,
your criminal defendant, is also clairvoyant, Because you remember, of course,
(23:09):
Scott Peterson said this, this is gonna be my first
Christmas without my wife.
Speaker 10 (23:14):
She died.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
I'm a widower at BAM.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Two weeks later she was dead and he was a widower.
And then let's see Oj Simpson Orenthal, James Simpson. That's
a great example. He had a dream where he.
Speaker 5 (23:28):
Murdered Nicole Brown, a clairvoyant dream.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
And here it is again. Sean com says, thirty days
before I'm a blow up Cutty's car, his Porsche it's gone,
and believe it or not, just a few short days later,
kid Cutty's.
Speaker 5 (23:47):
Car blows up by molotov.
Speaker 6 (23:50):
Hmm, well, Nancy, prosecutors didn't charge him with using a
Molotov cocktail, using a destructive device, and the statute of
limitations on that would have run out in like twenty fifteen.
Because this allegedly happened in twenty ten, twenty eleven, all
the statutes of limitation would have run.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Out twenty five indictment prosecutors state quote Comb's quote relied
on employees, resources, influence of a multifaceted business empire he
controlled and attempted to engage and among so many others,
sex trafficking, forced labor, kidnapping, Our.
Speaker 5 (24:30):
Sun put him up.
Speaker 6 (24:33):
So those are those are.
Speaker 5 (24:35):
It is part of the indictment. So Jurassic erase.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
You want to start over, you want a little do over,
because he is charged with that.
Speaker 6 (24:44):
They're alleging that. And what executors way way over charge
this case. And that's why his lawyers are confident that
the government is going to lose in this case. Because
for racketeering rico, which normally is charged against mob bosses,
big minal mobster organizations. They have to prove that all
of these things were part of advancing the Diddy organization.
(25:08):
So to make TV shows, he had to have arson.
In order to produce records, he had to blow up
a car or have freak offs. I think what the
problem here is, Oh my gosh, news.
Speaker 5 (25:20):
Alert reducing records. Charged with trug. He's not charged with that.
This guy is following. Actually he is charged.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
I'm looking right at it, but I do respect something
you just did.
Speaker 5 (25:36):
When you got busted.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
You immediately came up with a brand new argument that
takes a lot of skill.
Speaker 5 (25:43):
Slate.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
He's obsess the tootsy roll, the size of a tipsy roll.
Speaker 5 (25:50):
Et bdddy et bddity, the tootsy roll Sewan comes is
tutsi roll.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
We are alive at the courthouse, bringing you the latest
in the United States versus Sean in a multi count
federal indictment. Joining me an all star panel to Sidney
Sumner very quickly, Sydney Crime Stories, investigative reporter. We are
hearing the state laying a foundation. This is why Kid
Cutty's testimony is so important. He's not just a pretty face,
(26:17):
He's not just a talented musical artist. But he is
laying a keystone, a keystone for the state sex trafficking
and reco criminal Enterprise case. Now, we heard Cuddy on
the stand talking about the molotov right blowing up his car.
(26:39):
There were other assistants that did Seawan Comb's bidding. But
what can you tell me about Shawn Combs continuing to
call kid Cuddy long after he and Ventiro had broken up?
Straight out to Lynn Shaw joining me, founder direct of
(27:00):
Land's Warriors, a nonprofit dedicated to ending sex attacks and
sex trafficking. Lynn, can you really visualize Sean Comb's doing
his own dirty work? You think he was over at
the quick stop getting the gas and making them molotov
and throwing it atbl n Are you surprised? I mean,
(27:23):
does of high powered pimp do all the beatings of
the women?
Speaker 5 (27:27):
Does he he go buy the drugs to keep them high? No,
he has millions to do that.
Speaker 11 (27:32):
Well, Nancy, I'm here in New York City and for
years they've been known as Dirty Diddy Disciples. I am
not kidding When I use Dirty Diddy, that's what on
the street. That's what women would report back to me
men as well, you know, and I also want to
point out I think, I hope we hear about it
over the course of this whole trial. There were lots
of women involved that helped him as well. These guys
(27:55):
never get their hands dirty. They're in control. I am
hoping our focus at the Warriors is, Oh, he's victims survivors.
I hope, Nancy, I'm so afraid. I want these sex
trafficking charges to stick. I hope they're laying out for
this reco case, for this engaging in prostitution across state.
I hope because we have so many victims right now
looking at this reporting back to me what's going on.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
They can't watch something earlier Linshaw about all of the
minions that did Shawn Comes bidding. And when we first
started investigating this case and covering it, I and many
of you on the panel predicted that there would be
codefendants turned witnesses, and that is exactly what we're seeing
right now. People that do Shawn Comes is bidding. Why
(28:41):
is it important? Because that is what a criminal enterprise is. Again,
think about Tony Soprano. You saw the Sopranos right on HBOS.
Speaker 5 (28:48):
Streaming right now.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Still Soprano ran the organization, but there are all sorts
of people working in for him and around him in
his criminal enterprise. One would sell stolen items TVs VCRs.
Another would be charge of pimping running a strip bar.
Another would launder money. They all were part of the
criminal enterprise. Now we see former assistant George Kaplan on
(29:14):
the stand. Now talk about an unindicted co conspirator.
Speaker 5 (29:20):
That would be him. Listen.
Speaker 10 (29:22):
Assistant George Kaplan says he was sent to pick up
drugs for his famous boss. Kaplin says Sean Combs gave
him cash and a phone number to.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Call crime stories with Nancy Grace, So Shawn Combs could
talk a grown man into going and buying his drugs
for him.
Speaker 5 (29:49):
No wonder this went down in the courtroom. Listen.
Speaker 12 (29:52):
Diddy's former assistant, George Kaplan takes the stand. Kaplan tells
the judge he is only here because of a subpoena
and he plans to invoc his Fifth Amendment right. Judge
super money and grants Kaplin immunity. The deal does not
cover perjury.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
So in order to get his testimony, Kaplan is given immunity.
Speaker 5 (30:08):
What does that mean?
Speaker 1 (30:09):
It means he cannot be prosecuted for anything he testifies
to on the stand, including going and buying ecstasy MDMA,
and god only knows what else. So he talks a
grown man into buying drugs. Let's see a little snippet
of all the drugs seized that Shawn comes mansion. Now
(30:32):
we know that Frank Black was a name, a pseudonym
used to check Sean comes in and out of hotel rooms.
Also used to get fake prescriptions, which is illegal. You
think that Shawn comes rolled up in his suv to
(30:53):
the CVS or the Dwayne Read or the Walgreens and
god his own stuff.
Speaker 5 (30:57):
No, uh huh, there had to ammanion. Listen.
Speaker 10 (31:01):
Former assistant George Kaplan testifies that on Comb's or chief
of staff Christina Korum's instructions, he traveled ahead of Combs
to set up his lodging, often asked to book under
the name Frank Black.
Speaker 5 (31:13):
Caplan says the.
Speaker 10 (31:14):
First time he was asked to set up Comb's accommodations,
he was given a prepared bag to unpack. It contained clothes,
a speaker, candles, liquor, baby oil, and astroglide. On subsequent roomstocks,
Caplan says he often purchased baby oil and astroglide on
his company credit card.
Speaker 5 (31:32):
Okay, legal objection ew okay.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Troy Slayton Shawn Holmes convinced Caplan to perform crimes for
him buying drugs, get illegal drugs such as MDMA, also
convinced him to get prescription drugs under a fake name,
where Slaton also a crime. So now he is talking
(31:59):
his and to buying his astro glide, lubricant, his baby oil,
his candles, his liquor, all of that and importantly critically
using the company credit card choice latent well.
Speaker 6 (32:16):
Buy an astro glide, although it may sound gross in
this situation, not illegal. Buying drugs, yes, illegal, but that
doesn't make a rico case. The government still has to
prove the purchasing the drugs was to advance the criminal enterprise,
was to advance his business interest. His legitimate business interested.
Speaker 5 (32:40):
Too, all those drugs himself.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
No, that was being dropped in the woman's drinks. I mean,
you need to go back to law school, man and
take a refresher course on rico. Rico is anything any
act that advances a crime, and the crimes have to
be laid out in the end diament, which they are.
I've already read them to you. I'll read them again.
We're asking for labor, kidnapping, a stressing.
Speaker 6 (33:03):
Those are all terrible things, but that doesn't make rico.
You have to prove what he is saying.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Diddy was using all those drugs for he'd be dead
if he took them all.
Speaker 5 (33:13):
He was fading them to these women and their drinks.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
What do you think the astrogline the baby oles for
for a sreat call according to these women against their
will and bringing in male sex workers from another state
that is against the law.
Speaker 6 (33:26):
Recoparent, that would be that that's sex trafficking. So we're
mixing up two different things there, Nancy, you know that
those are separate.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Also the environment, Yes, but you're the one who said
had nothing.
Speaker 5 (33:37):
To do with it. It has everything to do with it,
just like the baby oil.
Speaker 6 (33:40):
Just because somebody is having a rock star is having
a drug fueled party, doesn't mean that they're guilty of rico.
Speaker 5 (33:48):
Of racketeering.
Speaker 6 (33:49):
That's what's used for for mobsters that are trying to
use trying to sell drugs and use those things to
make money.
Speaker 10 (33:59):
Cassie said Combs wanted her glistening at all times and
had her reapply heated baby oil as often as every
five minutes, and during one performance, even made her get
into a.
Speaker 5 (34:10):
Kiddie pool of baby oil.
Speaker 10 (34:12):
Afterwards, staff members were charged with cleaning up but with
baby oil and bodily fluids all over the floors, walls,
and door handles. Combs was frequently charged for damages to
hotel rooms, negotiations handled by Combe's assistants.
Speaker 5 (34:26):
Again, legal objection ew all.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
Right to doctor Bethany Marshall, let's see that video of
the literally Dixie dumpster going down the.
Speaker 5 (34:35):
Hallway of the hotel.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Yes, we're gonna need a lot of chlorox to clean
this room, doctor Bethany, how do you convince grown men
and women to do your illegal bidding and clean up
your bodily fluids, your sperm, your baby oil, your astroglide,
(34:58):
and they do.
Speaker 11 (34:59):
It your dildo, all of it, Nancy.
Speaker 8 (35:02):
Probably what he did is he started out being super
charming with them, pretending to be their friend, buying them gifts,
pretending to advance their interests in some way, and once
he gained their trust, he would send them out on
some criminal act. Once they committed the criminal act, now
they were stuck and could not get away.
Speaker 5 (35:20):
Isn't it true, Cydney Summer.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
That sworn testimony is that Shawn Colmes tried to bribe
a security guy.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
That's correct, Nancy. He tried to hand this security guard
a stack of money as big as his hand to
leave them alone and to just drop the whole situation
and not get Cassie Ventura out of that Intercontinental Hotel room.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
So Tom Smith, a former NYPD star of Goalshields podcast
Tom Smith, I guess it's just a diddy world and
we all live in in it because all these people
are so afraid or have their careers at stake, they
go along with it. It will be a cold day
in HTL that I would go to clean up somebody
else's bodily fluids unless my children threw it.
Speaker 5 (36:03):
It's not gonna happen. But all these people just went
along to get along.
Speaker 9 (36:08):
And it's influence and it's his power that controlled them.
What can he do for them in the future, How
can he propel their jobs, their careers anything like that.
That all is involved in this power trip that he
was on. And like you know, Nancy, once you get
away with it a little bit, you keep pushing the
envelope to the next level, to the next level, and
(36:30):
that's where you get into this crime boss that he
is of controlling people with intimidation, with acts of violence
and so forth. And it's just all part of Sean
diddy Combe's persona and his personality of being this boss.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
That's right, It's Diddy's world and we're all just living
in it. Not right now, Shawn Combs in a federal
courthouse being charged and being tried for a multi count
federal indictment.
Speaker 5 (36:57):
And what Rico means, which is the.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
Main major prize for the state, is that Shawn comes
headed up a criminal enterprise involving many, many crimes including arson,
blowing up kid Cuddy's car. That is why Cuddy is
so important to this case. And Sidney Sumner.
Speaker 5 (37:18):
In a nutshell.
Speaker 1 (37:20):
I'm wondering if we're going to see hitch person. Christina Korum,
she is accused. She denies it all of recruiting women
for free coughs, standing witness to a gang rape, trying
to place an IUD and a victim.
Speaker 5 (37:35):
What I'm saying is she denies it all. But just
like these other assistants.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
So many people were doing his bidding because they were
afraid well, and.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
We've heard from other employees, anonymous sources who have not
been on the stand, that many of them believed Christina
Korum was in love with Sean Combs and did a
lot of the things she did because of that. Other
employees say, I've seen a Quorum threw them under the bus,
made things that may have not been their fault look
like their fault, so that she looked like the most
(38:08):
capable person on his staff that he could always trust
and always come to. George Caplan even testified that he
told Christino Quorum about the physical abuse he saw between
Combs and Kathy as his reason for putting, and Quorum
was sad and disappointed that that was something that he witnessed,
But she understood why he left and that was the
(38:30):
end of it. There was no conversation about, well, what
did you see? Should we talk to the police, should
we do No. Her loyalty was to Combs, and she
hoped that George Caplan would have discretion about what he saw.
Speaker 5 (38:47):
You hear that, Troy Slayton, it's the death nail. It's
the death nail.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
Kid Cutty's testimony and the testimony of all these other assistants.
Speaker 5 (38:58):
The Nail and the coffin the death knel. For Diddy, it.
Speaker 6 (39:03):
Might be Nancy, but the government is still going to
have to weave together all these disparate dots and tie
it together to show that this was an overarching grand
conspiracy to further a criminal enterprise. And I think we're
going to hear a lot from Diddy's attorneys when it
comes time for his defense to put on their presentation.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
Well, you're right, Slaton. I don't know why they've got
out their slaves, but you're absolutely right. In the state
better be ready. We remember an American hero, Deputy share
of Hunter Ready, just twenty seven, shot and killed in
the line of duty, leaving behind beautiful young wife Bettina
and their children Brantley, Caden, and Katie. American hero Deputy
(39:48):
Shareff Hunter Ready Nancy Gray signing off goodbye friend
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Introducing… Aubrey O’Day Diddy’s former protege, television personality, platinum selling music artist, Danity Kane alum Aubrey O’Day joins veteran journalists Amy Robach and TJ Holmes to provide a unique perspective on the trial that has captivated the attention of the nation. Join them throughout the trial as they discuss, debate, and dissect every detail, every aspect of the proceedings. Aubrey will offer her opinions and expertise, as only she is qualified to do given her first-hand knowledge. From her days on Making the Band, as she emerged as the breakout star, the truth of the situation would be the opposite of the glitz and glamour. Listen throughout every minute of the trial, for this exclusive coverage. Amy Robach and TJ Holmes present Aubrey O’Day, Covering the Diddy Trial, an iHeartRadio podcast.
Betrayal: Season 4
Karoline Borega married a man of honor – a respected Colorado Springs Police officer. She knew there would be sacrifices to accommodate her husband’s career. But she had no idea that he was using his badge to fool everyone. This season, we expose a man who swore two sacred oaths—one to his badge, one to his bride—and broke them both. We follow Karoline as she questions everything she thought she knew about her partner of over 20 years. And make sure to check out Seasons 1-3 of Betrayal, along with Betrayal Weekly Season 1.
Crime Junkie
Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.