June 10, 2025 • 42 mins
"Jane's" testimony continues. She testifies she grew more defiant of Combs’ “hotel nights” when he bragged about his sex life with another woman on a podcast.
Jane sends several blunt texts the next time Combs asks for a “hotel night” while he’s with another woman. “I don’t want to be used and locked in a room to perform and fulfill your fantasies. I’m not a porn star. I’m not an animal. Coming to the realization of what this really is.” When Combs replies she’s the only one who can bring him peace, Jane snaps back, “Introduce her to ‘P.’” ” It's not me; it's the entertainment that puts you at peace.”
Jane says her text about ‘P’ referred to one of their “entertainers,” Paul.
After their fight about “hotel nights,” Combs promises Jane they can have a weekend in New York, just the two of them. Jane believes Combs and gets on a plane, but not long after takeoff, Combs sends Jane a text about a “surprise.” When she arrived, an “entertainer” was waiting in their hotel room.
Combs brushed off Jane’s clear disappointment and anger in the lounge of their hotel, and Jane says she felt so defeated, she agreed to go upstairs with Combs. Just a few days later, Combs decided that night needed a part two and had the New York entertainer meet the couple in Miami.
Jane testifies that the two-part “hotel night” went poorly because of her disappointment and distrust for the “entertainer” Combs chose, so she arranged another hotel night with a man she was more familiar with to “make it up” to Combs.
Jane expresses in later texts to Combs that she had a hand in setting up “hotel nights” and hiring sex workers solely for her own safety against blackmail, pregnancy, and STDs, not because she wanted to participate.
Jane reads more text messages she sent to Combs the next time he asked to see her for what she assumed would be another hotel night: “Spend the day with your family or Gina; I need time to myself.”
In response, Combs promised that he wasn’t seeking sex at all and only wanted to spend time with her.
Jane stood her ground, writing, “You beat the love out of us. You made it crystal clear exactly what you want me for. You’re going to spend the day love-bombing me so you can get what you want? It’s not genuine. I’ve hit a mental and spiritual wall.”
“Jane” testifies she read Cassie’s lawsuit the second she learned of it—and fainted from shock. Jane says she was reading her own story, about her own sexual trauma, and felt even more betrayed by Combs’ constantly dismissing her reluctance to participate in “hotel nights.”
Jane immediately confronted Combs about Cassie’s allegations in scathing texts.
“The sick part is you knew this was coming, and you gaslit me and made me feel crazy about the sex trauma I was developing, knowing you’ve been here before. It’s all so clear that this was sexual exploitation that you framed as love for your sick fetishes."
Joining Nancy Grace today:
- Greg Morse - Criminal Defense Attorney of Morse Legal, Author of “The Untested” [found on Amazon]
- Dr. Bethany Marshall - Psychoanalyst, Author: "Deal Breaker," and featured in hit show "Paris in Love" on Peacock; Instagram & TikTok: drbethanymarshall, X: @DrBethanyLive
- Chris McDonough - Director At the Cold Case Foundation, Former Homicide Detective [
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Disgusting, Diddy's victim cries between sobs on the stand, I
am not a porn star, I am not an animal.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories, and I want
to thank you for being with us.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
He's not used to being told no, and.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
He throws a major tantrum because he can.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
I've seen him get so angry that he looks like
he's about to pass out.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
The veins in his neck are pop into.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
The kickings, the beatings, the draggings.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
He just can't believe that somebody says no to him.
He can't believe it.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
In the last hours, the trial judge shoots down the
music mogul's last most recent request for a mistrial. Don't
you know he's having a Diddy fit right now? That
heartbreaking testimony pourse from the witness stand as Jane not
her real name, declares I Am not an animal. After
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heartbreaking testimony, beatings about doors being broken down, draggings, druggings,
marathon sex sessions lasting up to eighteen hours and longer,
where she actually felt she was nothing more than an animal,
(01:38):
straight out to the Monahan Federal Courthouse, standing by special guest,
Tisa tells investigator, host of Tisa Tales on YouTube, Tisa,
thank you for being with us. You know, the way
you described this witness on the stand as a baby
bunny getting tortured has really stuck in my head.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
What happened today today? What happened was there was shock.
We knew that the defense was coming in for the cross.
Speaker 6 (02:07):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
However, there was a little commotion before then, as you mentioned,
the motion for Mishawe was denied. However, there is an
issue with Durer number six. Okay, the defense loft that
slipped out when they were busy arguing with the judge.
The prosecution wants during number six. It looks like stricken
the defense wants them in.
Speaker 6 (02:27):
Today. Jane dol took the stand.
Speaker 5 (02:30):
And she still had that soft, sweet caramel voice. She
still had a very like, genuine feminine demeanor. However, she
stood her ground with the defense as they tried to
move forward with this narrative of.
Speaker 6 (02:43):
You're a grown woman and you make grown choices.
Speaker 5 (02:46):
They started early on asking her you like that, you
enjoyed that right, he treated you good, and she really
did a great job of pushing back and saying, wait
a second No at the.
Speaker 7 (02:57):
Time, But now that I've had time, well to in
her voice, Now that I have time, I really thought
about it, and I realized that's not what I wanted,
and that's not what I wanted, and I really feel
a lot of resentment, you know, resentment.
Speaker 5 (03:11):
Toward him that he took me down this road, down
this road of debauchery with the drugs and introduced me
to this lifestyle that I really really hate it. So again,
it's early on in the cross examination, and already this
little bunny rabbit has a little steel and she's pushing
back on the narrative that the defense is trying.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
To posh any idea tasted tales why the state wants
to juror number six thrown off.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
I mean, I've been in the court room and I
can only guess. But if I had to guess, dur
number six for what I can there's been a lot of.
Speaker 6 (03:52):
Uh, there's been a little camaraderie between.
Speaker 5 (03:55):
The jurors that I think the judge did a good
job of shutting down.
Speaker 6 (03:59):
But from my impression, has shown a few issues.
Speaker 5 (04:03):
Okay, there might have been issues with my not being
fully engaged, issues with passing notes back and forth issues
with maybe the facial expressions. Again, it's not just during
number six. We've seen this in the jury I think
the New York Times even wrote a letter about that.
I did a live the first time. I kind of
(04:23):
rang the alarm bell. But I gotta be honest with you,
this is a guessing game.
Speaker 6 (04:28):
As to what's going on. Everybody in the.
Speaker 5 (04:30):
Courtroom is wondering what is going on. The court is
keeping it under lock and seal, but it is something heavy,
and it leads me to believe that it's something pro
Diddy because the defense is like, hey, we're fine for
them to stay in.
Speaker 6 (04:42):
It's the prosecution. It's like, no, you're honor. We need
to review transcripts. We need to review transcripts.
Speaker 5 (04:49):
Because you know, there's cameras all over the court, not
just for what is being said in a jury box,
but also and they can even catch whispers since over
the jury box, where the public sits, where the press sits.
So they want to actually review transcripts and then they're
going to write a letter to the court.
Speaker 6 (05:04):
But again, everybody is really taken back and wondering what's
going on. But as soon as I hear more, you
will be the first to hear.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
You know, Tisa tails joining us from outside the Monahan
Federal Courthouse in Manhattan, where Shawn Cobs is facing a
multi count federal indictment, including rico and sex trafficking charges.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Tisa, I find it to.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Be more than a coincidence that Shawn Combs has just
been rebuked by the judge for communicating with the jury
and now the state wants a particular juror thrown off
the case. This is a big deal in the legal
world for a GURR to be thrown off. And I
want to get back to the importance of Jane not
(05:47):
her real name testimony, but this is important. Something has
happened that's significant that it's critically enough for the state
to want a GURR removed following on the heels of
Seawn Cohm's being rebuked and threatened to be thrown out
a court for communicating with the jury. From what you
(06:10):
can tell, has he been communicating with even if nonverbally?
Speaker 1 (06:15):
You're number six, I think.
Speaker 5 (06:17):
And this is my opinion from what I've observed from
his body language, I think there's a real case to
be made that he has.
Speaker 6 (06:24):
Been communicating nonverbally.
Speaker 5 (06:26):
I don't think not just with jural number six.
Speaker 6 (06:29):
I think with all the jurors.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
Now, why did they particularly focus on jural number six?
Speaker 6 (06:35):
Again, people have said things, you know in the juris selection.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
Information was given, things that they do with their home,
things around them was giving.
Speaker 6 (06:43):
It has been the whole jury that was the issue.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
De nodding, the head, waiting, the silent as the prosecution
could describe the silent communication during number six.
Speaker 6 (06:55):
I will say in the.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
Testimony with prior victims Mia, especially a little bit with Cassie,
there was definitely some type of second skepticism that from
the first row I could see that actually spilled out
into the second row.
Speaker 6 (07:12):
Again, I agree with you, this is a huge deal.
Speaker 5 (07:15):
But again the issue is what specifically put during number
sixual the edge that we could maybe make a case
that the first roles one and two, certain jurors were
actually doing the same thing.
Speaker 6 (07:27):
So again it makes you wonder, did that.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
Silent communication turn into something more tangent? Did he is
in jail for doing the unthinkable and by will things
that we can say that the average person would say
is not only unthinkable.
Speaker 6 (07:43):
It's just not smart. So because he is currently locked
up in the NBC for that. On Diddy's side, I
want to under.
Speaker 5 (07:50):
Believe that if the past can show you what the
president and the future will hold, this is not.
Speaker 6 (07:55):
Out of his range of tools he would use.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
However, I find it so hard to think that a
juror would actually take that step and do something that
could jeopardize the trial, jeopardize their freedom, and just jeopardize
the sanctity of bes D And why again we are
locked in again? But what is that extra step that
had for prosecution so worried and concerned.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Straight out to Lauren Conlin, investigative reporter, star of Pop
Crime TV, joining us also at the courthouse. Lauren Conlin
Jane not her real names testimony is critical for so
many reasons, not stand alone, but because it bolsters Cassie
Ventura's testimony.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
As a matter of.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Fact, Jane testifies to being with Sean Combs when the
CNN video of the Intercontinental Hotel beat down goes to air.
Speaker 8 (08:46):
What happened, particularly about the CNN video of Sean Colmes
beating up Cassie and the fact that Jane was there
when he found out. She describes that they were sleeping
in bed one of his sons came knocking on the
door to tell him this, and he pretty much spent
the entire day with family and friends in kind of
(09:07):
a huddle figuring out what to do. And Jane describes
being at the breakfast table. She was about to eat
breakfast and then she saw the video on the news
herself and she lost her appetite. She also describes kind
of being in a part of that huddle towards the
end of the day when Seawan Colmes was trying to
(09:28):
figure out this apology and what he would say.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Back to Tisa.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Tales also joining us at the courthouse, Tisa that apology
video that Jane was there when Comes brings in the
family advisors her. They talked to a lawyer about doing
the apology video, and it seems as if Seawan Colmes
was instructed not to use Cassie's name, and I think
(09:53):
I know why because it would be somewhat of an admission.
So tell me about Jane's test cnemony about her helping
construct that apology video that Shawn Seawn Comes disseminated on
social Now.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
One of the most shocking things that came out about
in the courthouse was, as you know, his apology video
was largely well just received, not well received because people
thought that.
Speaker 6 (10:18):
It was disrespectful because he never said Cassie's name. We
found out.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
And it was super shocking by a Mark Agnofilio that
he was the one that said, take Cassie's name out
of there because.
Speaker 6 (10:30):
She may well be a grand jury witness.
Speaker 5 (10:32):
And already they were forward thinking that they didn't want
to look like they were in any way tampering that.
Speaker 6 (10:37):
Now, what does that tell us?
Speaker 5 (10:39):
It tells us, and it told the courtroom largely he
knew how much trouble he was in, and he knew
Jane was one of the only people that could either
testify right as the current he's a great guy, or
put a nail in his coffin. And that's why it
was so shocking that people, as.
Speaker 6 (10:56):
Their testimony went on.
Speaker 5 (10:57):
That you know, this woman has your freedom in her hands,
but its nature couldn't be denied, and he proceeded to
treat her even more cruelly, even more shocking. Again, it
was very strategic having around, having her around the family,
having her lawyers, paying for her lawyers, making sure sure
that there was nothing that could she would be under.
Speaker 6 (11:19):
The umbrella of employee privilege. I'm sorry, non employee of
legal privilege.
Speaker 5 (11:25):
However, however, it looks like they somehow misplayed that because
here we are again in court and Jane is right
now having Diddy's freedom in her hands.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
I love the way that you explain that kind of
keeping her in the fold so she would use his
lawyer that he paid for so he could still keep
a tab on her. And she was very quick to
point out tsa that she did not speak to investigators
before she testified at the grand jury, that she didn't
(11:56):
cooperate with them. She was only there because she was
subpeated forced to be there, and that's after speaking to
the lawyer Shawn.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Colmes provided for her.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Now, I want everybody to look at what Teasa tells
us talking about the apology video.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Jane the witness, was there when the family and the
lawyers are all trying to figure.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Out what are we going to say in the way
of the Cassie beat down video.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
This is critical watch.
Speaker 9 (12:24):
It's so difficult to reflect on the darkest times in
your life. Sometimes you got to do that. I was
fucked up, I mean I had rock bottom, but I
made no excuses my behavior on that video is inexcusable.
(12:45):
I take full responsibility for my ashes in that video.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
I'm disgusted.
Speaker 9 (12:52):
I was disgusted then when I did it. I'm disgusting now.
I went and I sought out professional help. Now to
go into therapy. We're going to rehab. I had to
ask God for his mercy and grace. I'm so sorry,
(13:20):
but I'm committed to be a better man usin every day.
I'm not asking for forgiveness. I'm truly sorry.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
I really don't even know what to say. That.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
That's from Duty's official instagram accept technical legal term bs
BS therapy my rear end rehab really and then asking
God to forgive him?
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Whoa whoa woe?
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Tisa tells, isn't it true according to the witness who
is under oath and would be committing perjury if she's
lying that?
Speaker 1 (13:59):
After here apology.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Video, he then goes on to beat Jane so badly
that in one case he broke down the door and
she has video of that and the jury saw it. Now,
this is when he's trying to be a better man again,
(14:22):
objection my red end, that's a lie, be a better man.
Speaker 6 (14:30):
He beat her to Helen back.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Is that when he's a better man, tore down the
door again. Objection, my rae end what.
Speaker 6 (14:38):
Happened in court when Jane Do testified.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
We all knew the violence was coming, but nobody knew
what was going to be a scene out of the
shining to hear that little bunny rabbit talk about. Yes
she threw a glass, Yes she threw a candle, and
then she went on a chase through her house. She
ran to the bedroom door, realizing quickly she made a mistake,
locked the door.
Speaker 6 (15:01):
He kicked in.
Speaker 5 (15:01):
The door again. These are expensive, heavy doors. She even
said it was so much to fix she couldn't afford it, which,
by the way, he gave her the money to fix
these doors in cash in an unmarked brown paper bag,
which seems to be the Diddy special. Let's see what
the IRS has to say about this. You know, but
he kicked in one door, right it was.
Speaker 6 (15:24):
She ran to the bathroom. He kicked in the door
to the bathroom.
Speaker 5 (15:28):
She ran to the closet hiding and Kit was trying
to kick in the door to the.
Speaker 6 (15:33):
Closet, kicked the handle, kicked the door. She did what
she could. She seriously changed into a dress she could
run in.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
He kicked that in.
Speaker 10 (15:41):
She ran out the house barefoot, two six blocks barefoot
in a dark southern California evening, you know how dark
it gets in and she hid for about two hours,
hoping that he would calm down.
Speaker 6 (15:56):
And go away.
Speaker 5 (15:57):
At the end of two hours, she came back, still
scared out of her mind, and came back, and that
demon was still waiting for her.
Speaker 6 (16:05):
And the violence she actually said he went through.
Speaker 5 (16:08):
It broke our hearts, but it actually shocked and mind
you why we're listening to the violence that was to come.
The apology video is still fresh in our minds, Cassie
is still set fresh in our minds. When I say
he painted him all his own self out to be
a liar. It was shocking and groundbreaking just how damaging
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her testimony was to him.
Speaker 11 (16:31):
Their relationship never recovered after that night, both of them
agreeing to no longer see each other romantically. Comb sent
her roughly twelve thousand dollars for the damages to her
home and to cover Antoine's payment. Jane never fixed the
four doors Combs kicked in, but the jury saw photos
of the damages and videos of Combs and Jane discussing
her injuries from that night. The video captured bruising around
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her eye and a welt on her forehead visible through
the makeup on her face, all.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
For off a balcony. Like he's the villain in a
movie The Sopranos.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
It is like he was a film director.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
He plots his life out almost like his different episodes.
Speaker 12 (17:11):
He has grabbed everybody's attention in his life.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
He lives his life like it's a movie.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Is he grabbing the attention of GERR number six and more?
After Combe's rebuked for communicating in court with the gurrrs,
suddenly GERR number six is under threat of being thrown
off the jury at the request of the state. No
ruling yet, the defense is fighting it. Tisa Tal's joining
(17:41):
me from the courthouse, investigator and commentator hosts of Tisa
Tel's on YouTube. That's where I found her, Tisa tales,
thank you for being with us and braving the elements.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Tisa.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
In court, we hear the witness as you described as
a baby bunny getting tortured, saying and heartbreaking words to.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Me, I am not an animal.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
The fact that this woman was brought to the point
where she says I'm not an animal.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
What happened tsa.
Speaker 6 (18:16):
So what happened broke all our hearts.
Speaker 5 (18:19):
She was treated worse than an animal, She was treated subhuman.
Speaker 6 (18:24):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
She was forced to hide for two hours, six blocks
away from our house in the bitious, barefoot, for fear
of what this man would do.
Speaker 6 (18:34):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (18:35):
She finally made her way back to the house over
two hours later, and when she walked in that house,
she saw Sean walking to water. Now, at this point
she was praying everything would be okay, and it seemed
like it might have been, and they went into the house.
Speaker 6 (18:54):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (18:55):
All of a sudden, there is some argument over another person.
Speaker 6 (18:59):
She actually calls.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
Him a pedophile, even though the prosecution is quick to
say that the girl was over eighteen. But to Jane Doe,
she said, if she's not old enough to buy drinks,
what are you doing with her?
Speaker 6 (19:14):
She is a child.
Speaker 5 (19:15):
An argument starts over that, and the most insane thing
I can never think of starts. She all of a sudden,
things she feels all the resentment rise up in her,
she feels all the ways he's played her for a fool,
and she starts throwing candles out on the mind of
the candles old hit him, but the wax is hitting him.
And if you think about what Diddy's into, I would
have thought he would have liked a little wax splashing
(19:36):
going helm. But this enraised him, This embraised him, and
he went after her.
Speaker 6 (19:43):
She took off.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (19:45):
Now, one important detail that I overlooked was the fact
that when she was trying to make away.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Out the house.
Speaker 6 (19:53):
How could I overlook that he literally was.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
When he was kicking through the doors. He kicked the
four doors again. The drury was shocked leaning in. There
were door heavy wooden doors splintered in. Okay, when she
ran to leave the house, he literally kicked her that
same strength that knocked through four doors. He kicked her
again and hit her in the thigh. She fell down.
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She literally still tried to crawl away. This monster lifted
her up in a choke hold. She remembers her little
toes dangling. She's barefoot, her little toes dangling while he
is trying to choke her and make her submit. She
didn't know what was gonna do, right. She then threw
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He then threw her down.
Speaker 6 (20:41):
And while this is happening, Okay, the woman, the child
of the little girl because she's not a lift to
buy drinks.
Speaker 5 (20:48):
According to Jane Do is on the phone for rating her,
and Diddy is letting that happen while she is being
kicked and pummeled. Finally, Jane Do yelled out, he's beating
my ass right now, and that's when the phone went
to the phone got cut off.
Speaker 6 (21:09):
But let me just say this, It wasn't over.
Speaker 5 (21:11):
And you would think this monster would have had enough,
but again, I guess.
Speaker 6 (21:15):
He's built for this.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
She then said she felt so exhausted, more exhausted than
she's ever thought in her life.
Speaker 6 (21:20):
As she went into the shower.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
I would imagine to try to focus, to try to
center herself, to try to really.
Speaker 6 (21:26):
Just be like, what is going on in my life?
Speaker 5 (21:29):
Okay, she's in the shower, and she says that she
is naked, as you would expect.
Speaker 6 (21:34):
However, why was that such important detail?
Speaker 5 (21:37):
She says, She turned around and this demon is standing
in the shower. What comes into the shower with her?
And it's just standing there. He's not under the water,
he's in the shower away from the water, and he
is wearing clothes, he is wearing pants, and he sits
there in the shower watching her.
Speaker 6 (21:56):
She's startled. He turns around. Boom, He's small in the face.
She cuts caught off guard. He snacks her again.
Speaker 5 (22:03):
She gets caught off guard, smacks her again the third
time of all his strength and knocks her to the ground. Okay,
knocks her to the drowned. It was traumatic. And you guys,
that was only act too. There was more violence that unfolded.
There was more violence that unfolded again. This testimony was
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shocking and it uphold everybody in the courtroom.
Speaker 6 (22:29):
I cannot underlying that enough. How uphold everybody was to
hear this.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Crime stories with Nancy Grace.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
So Greg Morse joining me, veteran trial lawyer, criminal defense
attorney joining us out of the poem. Beaates jurisdiction, author
of Untested on Amazon at morselegal dot com. So you're
still saying it's just a tiff between boyfriend girlfriend, Well it's.
Speaker 13 (23:00):
The James testimony. If I didn't know who called her,
I would think the defense called her. Her testimony wasn't
supportive of sex trafficking. It was supportive of battery, maybe
aggravated battery.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
But this is a sex trusting.
Speaker 13 (23:13):
Well, I know it's not people that the day before
Shawn Combs is arrested, they go and have a hotel
night with them. They want to rub their feet in afterwards.
These are women that made bad choices to with the
sex stuff, but none of their testimony says that the
violence was to force them into it. She only got
angry when she thought Seawn Comes was actually sleeping with
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another person. She still had her rent paid. That was
her main concern when the employment separated. She testified to that.
So while Seawn Combs is a horrible, weak human being
and disgusting, the prosecution charged this as sex trafficking, and
the defense has to be very happy with what would
have been much worse testimony that Jane gave them. The
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things they said in opening that this was an angry person,
This was someone maybe you wouldn't do these type of
sex acts and these type of partying, but these women.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Intentionally did it.
Speaker 13 (24:09):
They only got angry after the fact. And that's what
we're seeing here. And as far as the sex trafficking case, unfortunately,
these aren't victims of sex trafficking. Real victims of sex
trafficking don't rub their captor's feet unless they're forced too.
They don't get their rent paid when they don't live
with the person. That's just not how it goes. So
he's a horrible human. But the defense got some good
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stuff to work with in Jane's testimony and the mistrial.
That's probably because Sean looked at the juror and the
prosecution got excited and tried to make a big deal
of it. So you know these things happening.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Sorry, the mistake motion was by the defense. I believe
it's the third one they've made that threw ones the
men shot down. So doctor Bethanie Marshall, say, did you
hear everything that Greg Morris just said? Say, that's the problem,
that is the problem. You just heard Tisa tails and
she's got a lot more to tell us about the
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beatings over and over, tearing down four doors to get
at the victim. And she's about to tell you about
all the written communications that Jane stands going, I don't
want to do this. I don't want to do this
as a matter of fact, Bethy.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Well, listen, listen to this.
Speaker 14 (25:20):
Jane sends texts I don't want to be used and
locked in a room to perform and fulfill your fantasies.
I'm not a porn star. I'm not an animal. Coming
to the realization of what this really is. When Combs replies,
she's the only one who can bring him peace, Jane
snaps back.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Introduce her to Pee.
Speaker 14 (25:40):
It's not me, it's the entertainment that puts you a
piece Pee referred to one of the entertainers, Paul.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
When a woman is beaten and beaten and beaten and
dragged and hiding in the bushes and riding, I am
not an animal. I don't want to be locked in
a room and forced to perform sex tricks while you watch.
That is not consensual sex. Well, Nancy, she's saying no.
Speaker 12 (26:10):
No means no. Even adolescents know that. Now in our society,
she is saying no. And he kicks down four doors.
And let me tell you something, Nancy, when a person
is enraged or having a rage attack, it takes only
twenty minutes for the admigned delight to calm back down again.
In other words, he could have controlled himself. He could
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have walked out that door, walked around the block, taken
a pause, taken a beat, but he enjoyed beating her.
This was a sadistic beat down which tells me that
he was in full.
Speaker 6 (26:46):
Control of her.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
I doubt she.
Speaker 12 (26:47):
Could have gotten away even though she was trying. He
beat her within an inch of her life and let
her live so he could sex traffick her even more
if these allegations are true. So we keep talking about
how women don't get away from men like this. This
is the tale, this unfolding right now. If anyone has
any doubt about women staying with men who abuse them
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or sex traffic them, just listen to the story and
ask yourself if Jane could have left or if she
was afraid for her life with me.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Danny Pinter Out of Washington, Senior vice president, Director of
Law Center National Center on Sex Exploitation. Danny, I'm reading
directly from the code. Sex trafficking involves exploiting a person
for sex acts through force, fraud, coercion, recruiting, harboring, transporting, providing,
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obtaining a person for sex exploitation, regardless of whether it's force,
fraud or coercion.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Bam.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
I've never seen a case fit into sex trafficking definitions
more than this one.
Speaker 15 (27:51):
You had the nail on the head, Nancy. This is
classic sex trafficking and the prosecution doesn't have to prove force, fraud,
and corsion. They can prove any one of them. But
I completely agree with you that every single one is present.
You could ask any law enforcement agency that investigates sex
trafficking and they have a word for what Sean Combs
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is doing. It's called romeo pimping. Literally, very often sex
trafficking victims rub the feet voluntarily of their captors. Very
often they believe they're in love, and part of that
loving relationship, the trafficker uses against them. And here we
have force with all the violence, we have fraud, where
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we heard in Jane Doe's testimony that Diddy lured her in,
groomed her with this big romantic relationship. It started off
very classic. He's taking on vacations. It was loving, it
was kind, it was gentle. This didn't start with freak offs.
He slowly introduces that that's fraudulent. And then we have
so many examples of coercion, as you stated, and as
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a doctor pointed out, many times she said she does
want to do this. Sean knew she didn't want to
do this, but he kept pushing her. And we know
it's coercion because the definition of coersion under the statute
is that using a scheme or a pattern to make
the victim believe that if they didn't comply, serious harmon
would come to them.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Crime stories with Nancy Grace.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
He's not used to being told no.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
And he throws a major tantrum because he can.
Speaker 4 (29:34):
I've seen him get so angry that he looks like
he's about to pass out.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
The veins in his neck.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Pop in the kickings, the beatings, the draggings.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
He just can't believe that somebody says no to you.
He can't believe it.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Welcome back joining us at the Monahan Federal.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Courthouse is Tisa tells investigator commentator, host of Tisa Tails
on you Tube where I found her, Tisa again, thank
you for being with us. I want to outline for
Greg Morris, who obviously does not know the definition of
sex trafficking or coercion, a point where Tisa Jane was
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in the bath, in the shower vomiting after being forced
to have sex with three male sex workers. Let's just
get that mental image for a moment, having another eighteen
hour sex marathon on video, which later she was threatened
with by the way, and then so disgusted, she starts vomiting,
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comes comes in, make sure she's through vomiting, and then
he's happy because he wants.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
Her to get back in the ring. Tell me what happened, Tisa.
Speaker 5 (30:47):
What happened was this is a time that she said
that she wanted to have a sobriety because she felt like,
much like Cassie, she was sliding down.
Speaker 6 (30:55):
The road with pills, trills, tricks, whatever. Did he want it? Okay?
Speaker 5 (31:00):
She literally arranged to have one heavily endowed man.
Speaker 6 (31:05):
After the other were by the way.
Speaker 5 (31:07):
She wasn't allowed to use any type of protection.
Speaker 6 (31:11):
Again, the pain was the point. And after she crawled
into that bathroom and she.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Bonded, wha wha wha wait wait wait wait wait.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Wait I didn't hear the part about the penises. Did
not hear that part? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Stop stop okay, I'm going to need a shrink after
this and a shower myself. I'm gonna spray myself with
lysol my ears after hearing this start start that over.
What did you say about the penises? This is not
about sex. This is about trying to hurt Jane.
Speaker 6 (31:45):
This was about hurting Jane.
Speaker 5 (31:47):
Did he have three requirements as far as I can see,
One the woman must suffer. Two they could not use protection,
and three the escort the pain.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
When you say protection, hey did you couldn't allow Jane
to have the sex worker use condoms. They had to
have your protected sex to make Shawn Combs over in
the corner masturbating happy.
Speaker 6 (32:10):
Listen when he saw that rubber, it killed his vibe.
He demanded he.
Speaker 5 (32:15):
Needed to see that Willie free, okay, and then he
literally after that.
Speaker 16 (32:21):
The third requirement was that they must be well, well, well,
heavenly heavily endowed, to the point of both victims.
Speaker 6 (32:31):
Actually said that they were always in pains.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Afterward, the words were in the courtroom heavily and down.
Speaker 6 (32:38):
Even above the way they looked in the face.
Speaker 5 (32:40):
He was only concerned with the side below the waist
again did he went after But let me just say
something to your man.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
He laffable in a way the way we're talking about it.
But just think about the victim begging. I want him
to at least use a condom, and I would actually
make Seawan Coms mad.
Speaker 5 (33:02):
It will not only make him mad, it would make
him enraged.
Speaker 6 (33:06):
As a matter of fact, and prior testimony.
Speaker 5 (33:08):
She told about the fact where there was a guy
and he was stinky and dirty and he was sweating
all over and she begged, can I please use a
kind She didn't want this guy touching her, touching her.
She just remembers sweat dripping on her face. There was
another time that she begged to use a condom and
he was standing behind the entertainer giving her the look
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of like you better go, don't mess this up for me,
and was signaling through violent body language and very menacing looks.
Cut it out, just do it, and she actually ended
up doing it. But again, even when they get into
everything that happened, you gotta talk about them before, Nancy,
because no one's talking about that, no offense to our
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esteemed to your esteem, guest, But what makes a real
victim when you see them and you're at the funeral,
when they're as a vegetable in the hospital, people are
being beat and stumped. Just an inch away can make
someone paralyzed. But let's talk about the real victims. Since
people need to see an episode from Leo Nilsen taken.
Speaker 6 (34:11):
Let me take you to the testimony yesterday.
Speaker 5 (34:13):
Jane, there just been slapped silly in the shower, two
gulf sized ball knocks on her head, a black eye farming.
What is did he tell her to do? I'll give
you three guesses. Did he apologize?
Speaker 6 (34:26):
Did he run?
Speaker 5 (34:27):
No? He literally told her, You're not gonna f up
my night. You're not gonna f up my life night.
I don't know what you're doing. You better take this
fing pill. Take this effing pill. He literally then forced
her to take and was screaming and not going to
f up my night. This is a woman that is fleet,
that has been beaten, that is bruised up. He made
her take the pill, and moments after just being brutally beaten,
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he forces her to perform with an entertainer named Antoine,
and after she performed right and was brutalized and felt
so dejected, he then plays this weird eyes, white shut
psychological thriller where he literally then says, how can I
expect you to ever be in a relationship.
Speaker 6 (35:14):
I can't stand you.
Speaker 5 (35:15):
You're a whore this year that and literally gets stressed
and leaves her alone while she is in a puddle
of tears alone.
Speaker 6 (35:22):
This guy is demonic.
Speaker 5 (35:25):
But I hope for everyone that's saying she's not.
Speaker 6 (35:27):
A real victim, then what does a real victim look like?
Speaker 2 (35:31):
The incredible, vast waste of luxury goods, money just throwing it.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
He's used to throwing money at any situation to get
what he wants.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
With me is special guest Chris McDonough. He's a director
of the Cole Case Foundation, former homicide detective, three hundred
homicide investigations under his belt. Is the star of the
interview room on YouTube. But for my purposes now he
worked vice. You and I have seen plenty of sex
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trafficking cases, plenty of pimps.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
What do you think about that? What do you think
about that?
Speaker 17 (36:15):
Yeah, as Shesha said, I mean, this is the ditty
special and he is a pimp in an entertainer's environment.
And you know the fact that he this is classic Nancy.
You've seen it so many times and this he has
stripped these victims of their self identity. It's all about power,
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control and dominance. That is the way he keeps them
in his harem. And he's able to do and say
whatever he feels, whatever he wants.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
And remember one thing, the word there.
Speaker 17 (36:51):
Is what he wants, not what she needs, not what
she wants, not what she desires and how to get
out of the situation. He is controlling everything about the violence,
about the sexual fantasy. This guy is dangerous and I'm
glad he's in trial and hopefully the right outcome will
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come as a.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
Result of this.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
You know. Tisa TiAl is joining us at the courthouse,
a star of Tisa Tales on YouTube.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
Tisa this is the.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Example I used out of all my sex trafficking investigations.
The first one. The girl the victims fourteen just turned fourteen,
and I went into a hotel room to find her.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
I said.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
I came out to the vice and I said, she's
not in there. This thirty five year old women. Forty
year old women in there. They went, No, it's her
in the white boots. I went back in. That was
a fourteen year old little girl. She looked like a
thirty five year old stripper. And what made me think
of it is you telling me that comes told her
to stop vomiting, quit crying, and put on some makeup
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and get back in that she's going to have to
f so and have to ask somebody, and on and on,
and just her thinking about her putting that makeup back on,
just like that little girl did that I represented, and
that little girl, by the way, Tisa, vanished during the
trial after I already struck the jury.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
You don't get two bites of apple.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
You strike a jury on a case, you lose your
victim that you can't try them again. We found her
and they were convicted. But what I'm saying is making
her put on that makeup on top of those bruises
and those tears and her mouth tasting like vomit. I mean,
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how did the jury react?
Speaker 6 (38:43):
Listen?
Speaker 5 (38:43):
The jury reacted disgusting. And just to let you know,
all the testimony is blurring together. There was the incidence
that she testified about yesterday where after she got beat
to a pulp, she had to put on makeup. And
when I say that, the jury, when they heard what
happened with the goal fall size, they were disgusted. A
few of the women looked like were just shaking their
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head silently. There was a real sense of judgment. And
this is looking at the photos, and unlike Cassie, she
has photos. But the thing is the photos were accidental.
Dinny's little scheme in my mind of keeping her clothes
because she is the woman that could destroy him which,
by the way, let that sink in. This woman can
destroy you or it can be your redemption. And you're
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still brutally beating her in the coming days where he
was still playing that according to Danielle the Romeo lover
boy Pip situation, she was taking.
Speaker 6 (39:36):
Just videos of him while he was posing because he
loved to be the muse.
Speaker 5 (39:42):
And in those videos, the camera accidentally pans over her
face showing the black eyes, showing the nuts. But there
was even videos that she actually had when she was
taking her son for a walk with sunglasses and she
accidentally just lets the camera pan and she's with her
son with a black eye, trying to be a mother,
just out taking her son for a walk. Again, the
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level of violence and dehumanization. And also from Diddy's trial,
it wasn't over. He then they showed us some messages,
and they showed us played voice notes where he was
unrepentant and still psychologically telling her that she's not a
good woman. They can't be together. This is why they
can never truly be together again. So much was thrown.
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I'm sure it's blurring all together for the jury.
Speaker 16 (40:29):
You know.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
Doctor Bethany Marshall joining a psychoanalyst out of La, author
of a deal breaker. You can see her on peacock
now and she's at doctor Bethany Marshall dot com. Doctor
Bethany questioned to you jumping off. What TSA tells is
just recounted the dichotomy of her with those bruises on
her face and knots on her head out trying to
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take her son out for a walk and be a mom.
That dichotomy. But my question to you is, how is
that sex? To Shaun Colmes, I don't with her in
one case of vomiting after a train, with her having
to put makeup on over bruises and not literally not
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on our head and getting back into the hotel night
aka free coll aka rape, how is that sexy?
Speaker 1 (41:22):
I don't see that.
Speaker 12 (41:23):
So we're talking about this as sex trafficking and multiple
perversions and abuse and all of that. Why don't we
just use a much more accurate word or another word,
which is torture. So what does he do? He picks
men with the largest penises he can find, prohibits her
from using condoms, watch her vomit. That's as cruel as
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he can get. And he needs to keep ratching it
up Nancy in order to maintain the sexual excitement.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
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(42:14):
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Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Disgusting, Diddy's victim cries between sobs on the stand, I
am not a porn star, I am not an animal.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories, and I want
to thank you for being with us.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
He's not used to being told no, and.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
He throws a major tantrum because he can.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
I've seen him get so angry that he looks like
he's about to pass out.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
The veins in his neck are pop into.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
The kickings, the beatings, the draggings.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
He just can't believe that somebody says no to him.
He can't believe it.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
In the last hours, the trial judge shoots down the
music mogul's last most recent request for a mistrial. Don't
you know he's having a Diddy fit right now? That
heartbreaking testimony pourse from the witness stand as Jane not
her real name, declares I Am not an animal. After
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heartbreaking testimony, beatings about doors being broken down, draggings, druggings,
marathon sex sessions lasting up to eighteen hours and longer,
where she actually felt she was nothing more than an animal,
(01:38):
straight out to the Monahan Federal Courthouse, standing by special guest,
Tisa tells investigator, host of Tisa Tales on YouTube, Tisa,
thank you for being with us. You know, the way
you described this witness on the stand as a baby
bunny getting tortured has really stuck in my head.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
What happened today today? What happened was there was shock.
We knew that the defense was coming in for the cross.
Speaker 6 (02:07):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
However, there was a little commotion before then, as you mentioned,
the motion for Mishawe was denied. However, there is an
issue with Durer number six. Okay, the defense loft that
slipped out when they were busy arguing with the judge.
The prosecution wants during number six. It looks like stricken
the defense wants them in.
Speaker 6 (02:27):
Today. Jane dol took the stand.
Speaker 5 (02:30):
And she still had that soft, sweet caramel voice. She
still had a very like, genuine feminine demeanor. However, she
stood her ground with the defense as they tried to
move forward with this narrative of.
Speaker 6 (02:43):
You're a grown woman and you make grown choices.
Speaker 5 (02:46):
They started early on asking her you like that, you
enjoyed that right, he treated you good, and she really
did a great job of pushing back and saying, wait
a second No at the.
Speaker 7 (02:57):
Time, But now that I've had time, well to in
her voice, Now that I have time, I really thought
about it, and I realized that's not what I wanted,
and that's not what I wanted, and I really feel
a lot of resentment, you know, resentment.
Speaker 5 (03:11):
Toward him that he took me down this road, down
this road of debauchery with the drugs and introduced me
to this lifestyle that I really really hate it. So again,
it's early on in the cross examination, and already this
little bunny rabbit has a little steel and she's pushing
back on the narrative that the defense is trying.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
To posh any idea tasted tales why the state wants
to juror number six thrown off.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
I mean, I've been in the court room and I
can only guess. But if I had to guess, dur
number six for what I can there's been a lot of.
Speaker 6 (03:52):
Uh, there's been a little camaraderie between.
Speaker 5 (03:55):
The jurors that I think the judge did a good
job of shutting down.
Speaker 6 (03:59):
But from my impression, has shown a few issues.
Speaker 5 (04:03):
Okay, there might have been issues with my not being
fully engaged, issues with passing notes back and forth issues
with maybe the facial expressions. Again, it's not just during
number six. We've seen this in the jury I think
the New York Times even wrote a letter about that.
I did a live the first time. I kind of
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rang the alarm bell. But I gotta be honest with you,
this is a guessing game.
Speaker 6 (04:28):
As to what's going on. Everybody in the.
Speaker 5 (04:30):
Courtroom is wondering what is going on. The court is
keeping it under lock and seal, but it is something heavy,
and it leads me to believe that it's something pro
Diddy because the defense is like, hey, we're fine for
them to stay in.
Speaker 6 (04:42):
It's the prosecution. It's like, no, you're honor. We need
to review transcripts. We need to review transcripts.
Speaker 5 (04:49):
Because you know, there's cameras all over the court, not
just for what is being said in a jury box,
but also and they can even catch whispers since over
the jury box, where the public sits, where the press sits.
So they want to actually review transcripts and then they're
going to write a letter to the court.
Speaker 6 (05:04):
But again, everybody is really taken back and wondering what's
going on. But as soon as I hear more, you
will be the first to hear.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
You know, Tisa tails joining us from outside the Monahan
Federal Courthouse in Manhattan, where Shawn Cobs is facing a
multi count federal indictment, including rico and sex trafficking charges.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Tisa, I find it to.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Be more than a coincidence that Shawn Combs has just
been rebuked by the judge for communicating with the jury
and now the state wants a particular juror thrown off
the case. This is a big deal in the legal
world for a GURR to be thrown off. And I
want to get back to the importance of Jane not
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her real name testimony, but this is important. Something has
happened that's significant that it's critically enough for the state
to want a GURR removed following on the heels of
Seawn Cohm's being rebuked and threatened to be thrown out
a court for communicating with the jury. From what you
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can tell, has he been communicating with even if nonverbally?
Speaker 1 (06:15):
You're number six, I think.
Speaker 5 (06:17):
And this is my opinion from what I've observed from
his body language, I think there's a real case to
be made that he has.
Speaker 6 (06:24):
Been communicating nonverbally.
Speaker 5 (06:26):
I don't think not just with jural number six.
Speaker 6 (06:29):
I think with all the jurors.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
Now, why did they particularly focus on jural number six?
Speaker 6 (06:35):
Again, people have said things, you know in the juris selection.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
Information was given, things that they do with their home,
things around them was giving.
Speaker 6 (06:43):
It has been the whole jury that was the issue.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
De nodding, the head, waiting, the silent as the prosecution
could describe the silent communication during number six.
Speaker 6 (06:55):
I will say in the.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
Testimony with prior victims Mia, especially a little bit with Cassie,
there was definitely some type of second skepticism that from
the first row I could see that actually spilled out
into the second row.
Speaker 6 (07:12):
Again, I agree with you, this is a huge deal.
Speaker 5 (07:15):
But again the issue is what specifically put during number
sixual the edge that we could maybe make a case
that the first roles one and two, certain jurors were
actually doing the same thing.
Speaker 6 (07:27):
So again it makes you wonder, did that.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
Silent communication turn into something more tangent? Did he is
in jail for doing the unthinkable and by will things
that we can say that the average person would say
is not only unthinkable.
Speaker 6 (07:43):
It's just not smart. So because he is currently locked
up in the NBC for that. On Diddy's side, I
want to under.
Speaker 5 (07:50):
Believe that if the past can show you what the
president and the future will hold, this is not.
Speaker 6 (07:55):
Out of his range of tools he would use.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
However, I find it so hard to think that a
juror would actually take that step and do something that
could jeopardize the trial, jeopardize their freedom, and just jeopardize
the sanctity of bes D And why again we are
locked in again? But what is that extra step that
had for prosecution so worried and concerned.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Straight out to Lauren Conlin, investigative reporter, star of Pop
Crime TV, joining us also at the courthouse. Lauren Conlin
Jane not her real names testimony is critical for so
many reasons, not stand alone, but because it bolsters Cassie
Ventura's testimony.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
As a matter of.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Fact, Jane testifies to being with Sean Combs when the
CNN video of the Intercontinental Hotel beat down goes to air.
Speaker 8 (08:46):
What happened, particularly about the CNN video of Sean Colmes
beating up Cassie and the fact that Jane was there
when he found out. She describes that they were sleeping
in bed one of his sons came knocking on the
door to tell him this, and he pretty much spent
the entire day with family and friends in kind of
(09:07):
a huddle figuring out what to do. And Jane describes
being at the breakfast table. She was about to eat
breakfast and then she saw the video on the news
herself and she lost her appetite. She also describes kind
of being in a part of that huddle towards the
end of the day when Seawan Colmes was trying to
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figure out this apology and what he would say.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Back to Tisa.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Tales also joining us at the courthouse, Tisa that apology
video that Jane was there when Comes brings in the
family advisors her. They talked to a lawyer about doing
the apology video, and it seems as if Seawan Colmes
was instructed not to use Cassie's name, and I think
(09:53):
I know why because it would be somewhat of an admission.
So tell me about Jane's test cnemony about her helping
construct that apology video that Shawn Seawn Comes disseminated on
social Now.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
One of the most shocking things that came out about
in the courthouse was, as you know, his apology video
was largely well just received, not well received because people
thought that.
Speaker 6 (10:18):
It was disrespectful because he never said Cassie's name. We
found out.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
And it was super shocking by a Mark Agnofilio that
he was the one that said, take Cassie's name out
of there because.
Speaker 6 (10:30):
She may well be a grand jury witness.
Speaker 5 (10:32):
And already they were forward thinking that they didn't want
to look like they were in any way tampering that.
Speaker 6 (10:37):
Now, what does that tell us?
Speaker 5 (10:39):
It tells us, and it told the courtroom largely he
knew how much trouble he was in, and he knew
Jane was one of the only people that could either
testify right as the current he's a great guy, or
put a nail in his coffin. And that's why it
was so shocking that people, as.
Speaker 6 (10:56):
Their testimony went on.
Speaker 5 (10:57):
That you know, this woman has your freedom in her hands,
but its nature couldn't be denied, and he proceeded to
treat her even more cruelly, even more shocking. Again, it
was very strategic having around, having her around the family,
having her lawyers, paying for her lawyers, making sure sure
that there was nothing that could she would be under.
Speaker 6 (11:19):
The umbrella of employee privilege. I'm sorry, non employee of
legal privilege.
Speaker 5 (11:25):
However, however, it looks like they somehow misplayed that because
here we are again in court and Jane is right
now having Diddy's freedom in her hands.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
I love the way that you explain that kind of
keeping her in the fold so she would use his
lawyer that he paid for so he could still keep
a tab on her. And she was very quick to
point out tsa that she did not speak to investigators
before she testified at the grand jury, that she didn't
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cooperate with them. She was only there because she was
subpeated forced to be there, and that's after speaking to
the lawyer Shawn.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Colmes provided for her.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Now, I want everybody to look at what Teasa tells
us talking about the apology video.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Jane the witness, was there when the family and the
lawyers are all trying to figure.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Out what are we going to say in the way
of the Cassie beat down video.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
This is critical watch.
Speaker 9 (12:24):
It's so difficult to reflect on the darkest times in
your life. Sometimes you got to do that. I was
fucked up, I mean I had rock bottom, but I
made no excuses my behavior on that video is inexcusable.
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I take full responsibility for my ashes in that video.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
I'm disgusted.
Speaker 9 (12:52):
I was disgusted then when I did it. I'm disgusting now.
I went and I sought out professional help. Now to
go into therapy. We're going to rehab. I had to
ask God for his mercy and grace. I'm so sorry,
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but I'm committed to be a better man usin every day.
I'm not asking for forgiveness. I'm truly sorry.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
I really don't even know what to say. That.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
That's from Duty's official instagram accept technical legal term bs
BS therapy my rear end rehab really and then asking
God to forgive him?
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Whoa whoa woe?
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Tisa tells, isn't it true according to the witness who
is under oath and would be committing perjury if she's
lying that?
Speaker 1 (13:59):
After here apology.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Video, he then goes on to beat Jane so badly
that in one case he broke down the door and
she has video of that and the jury saw it. Now,
this is when he's trying to be a better man again,
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objection my red end, that's a lie, be a better man.
Speaker 6 (14:30):
He beat her to Helen back.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Is that when he's a better man, tore down the
door again. Objection, my rae end what.
Speaker 6 (14:38):
Happened in court when Jane Do testified.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
We all knew the violence was coming, but nobody knew
what was going to be a scene out of the
shining to hear that little bunny rabbit talk about. Yes
she threw a glass, Yes she threw a candle, and
then she went on a chase through her house. She
ran to the bedroom door, realizing quickly she made a mistake,
locked the door.
Speaker 6 (15:01):
He kicked in.
Speaker 5 (15:01):
The door again. These are expensive, heavy doors. She even
said it was so much to fix she couldn't afford it, which,
by the way, he gave her the money to fix
these doors in cash in an unmarked brown paper bag,
which seems to be the Diddy special. Let's see what
the IRS has to say about this. You know, but
he kicked in one door, right it was.
Speaker 6 (15:24):
She ran to the bathroom. He kicked in the door
to the bathroom.
Speaker 5 (15:28):
She ran to the closet hiding and Kit was trying
to kick in the door to the.
Speaker 6 (15:33):
Closet, kicked the handle, kicked the door. She did what
she could. She seriously changed into a dress she could
run in.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
He kicked that in.
Speaker 10 (15:41):
She ran out the house barefoot, two six blocks barefoot
in a dark southern California evening, you know how dark
it gets in and she hid for about two hours,
hoping that he would calm down.
Speaker 6 (15:56):
And go away.
Speaker 5 (15:57):
At the end of two hours, she came back, still
scared out of her mind, and came back, and that
demon was still waiting for her.
Speaker 6 (16:05):
And the violence she actually said he went through.
Speaker 5 (16:08):
It broke our hearts, but it actually shocked and mind
you why we're listening to the violence that was to come.
The apology video is still fresh in our minds, Cassie
is still set fresh in our minds. When I say
he painted him all his own self out to be
a liar. It was shocking and groundbreaking just how damaging
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her testimony was to him.
Speaker 11 (16:31):
Their relationship never recovered after that night, both of them
agreeing to no longer see each other romantically. Comb sent
her roughly twelve thousand dollars for the damages to her
home and to cover Antoine's payment. Jane never fixed the
four doors Combs kicked in, but the jury saw photos
of the damages and videos of Combs and Jane discussing
her injuries from that night. The video captured bruising around
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her eye and a welt on her forehead visible through
the makeup on her face, all.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
For off a balcony. Like he's the villain in a
movie The Sopranos.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
It is like he was a film director.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
He plots his life out almost like his different episodes.
Speaker 12 (17:11):
He has grabbed everybody's attention in his life.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
He lives his life like it's a movie.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Is he grabbing the attention of GERR number six and more?
After Combe's rebuked for communicating in court with the gurrrs,
suddenly GERR number six is under threat of being thrown
off the jury at the request of the state. No
ruling yet, the defense is fighting it. Tisa Tal's joining
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me from the courthouse, investigator and commentator hosts of Tisa
Tel's on YouTube. That's where I found her, Tisa tales,
thank you for being with us and braving the elements.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Tisa.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
In court, we hear the witness as you described as
a baby bunny getting tortured, saying and heartbreaking words to.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Me, I am not an animal.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
The fact that this woman was brought to the point
where she says I'm not an animal.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
What happened tsa.
Speaker 6 (18:16):
So what happened broke all our hearts.
Speaker 5 (18:19):
She was treated worse than an animal, She was treated subhuman.
Speaker 6 (18:24):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
She was forced to hide for two hours, six blocks
away from our house in the bitious, barefoot, for fear
of what this man would do.
Speaker 6 (18:34):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (18:35):
She finally made her way back to the house over
two hours later, and when she walked in that house,
she saw Sean walking to water. Now, at this point
she was praying everything would be okay, and it seemed
like it might have been, and they went into the house.
Speaker 6 (18:54):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (18:55):
All of a sudden, there is some argument over another person.
Speaker 6 (18:59):
She actually calls.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
Him a pedophile, even though the prosecution is quick to
say that the girl was over eighteen. But to Jane Doe,
she said, if she's not old enough to buy drinks,
what are you doing with her?
Speaker 6 (19:14):
She is a child.
Speaker 5 (19:15):
An argument starts over that, and the most insane thing
I can never think of starts. She all of a sudden,
things she feels all the resentment rise up in her,
she feels all the ways he's played her for a fool,
and she starts throwing candles out on the mind of
the candles old hit him, but the wax is hitting him.
And if you think about what Diddy's into, I would
have thought he would have liked a little wax splashing
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going helm. But this enraised him, This embraised him, and
he went after her.
Speaker 6 (19:43):
She took off.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (19:45):
Now, one important detail that I overlooked was the fact
that when she was trying to make away.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Out the house.
Speaker 6 (19:53):
How could I overlook that he literally was.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
When he was kicking through the doors. He kicked the
four doors again. The drury was shocked leaning in. There
were door heavy wooden doors splintered in. Okay, when she
ran to leave the house, he literally kicked her that
same strength that knocked through four doors. He kicked her
again and hit her in the thigh. She fell down.
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She literally still tried to crawl away. This monster lifted
her up in a choke hold. She remembers her little
toes dangling. She's barefoot, her little toes dangling while he
is trying to choke her and make her submit. She
didn't know what was gonna do, right. She then threw
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He then threw her down.
Speaker 6 (20:41):
And while this is happening, Okay, the woman, the child
of the little girl because she's not a lift to
buy drinks.
Speaker 5 (20:48):
According to Jane Do is on the phone for rating her,
and Diddy is letting that happen while she is being
kicked and pummeled. Finally, Jane Do yelled out, he's beating
my ass right now, and that's when the phone went
to the phone got cut off.
Speaker 6 (21:09):
But let me just say this, It wasn't over.
Speaker 5 (21:11):
And you would think this monster would have had enough,
but again, I guess.
Speaker 6 (21:15):
He's built for this.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
She then said she felt so exhausted, more exhausted than
she's ever thought in her life.
Speaker 6 (21:20):
As she went into the shower.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
I would imagine to try to focus, to try to
center herself, to try to really.
Speaker 6 (21:26):
Just be like, what is going on in my life?
Speaker 5 (21:29):
Okay, she's in the shower, and she says that she
is naked, as you would expect.
Speaker 6 (21:34):
However, why was that such important detail?
Speaker 5 (21:37):
She says, She turned around and this demon is standing
in the shower. What comes into the shower with her?
And it's just standing there. He's not under the water,
he's in the shower away from the water, and he
is wearing clothes, he is wearing pants, and he sits
there in the shower watching her.
Speaker 6 (21:56):
She's startled. He turns around. Boom, He's small in the face.
She cuts caught off guard. He snacks her again.
Speaker 5 (22:03):
She gets caught off guard, smacks her again the third
time of all his strength and knocks her to the ground. Okay,
knocks her to the drowned. It was traumatic. And you guys,
that was only act too. There was more violence that unfolded.
There was more violence that unfolded again. This testimony was
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shocking and it uphold everybody in the courtroom.
Speaker 6 (22:29):
I cannot underlying that enough. How uphold everybody was to
hear this.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Crime stories with Nancy Grace.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
So Greg Morse joining me, veteran trial lawyer, criminal defense
attorney joining us out of the poem. Beaates jurisdiction, author
of Untested on Amazon at morselegal dot com. So you're
still saying it's just a tiff between boyfriend girlfriend, Well it's.
Speaker 13 (23:00):
The James testimony. If I didn't know who called her,
I would think the defense called her. Her testimony wasn't
supportive of sex trafficking. It was supportive of battery, maybe
aggravated battery.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
But this is a sex trusting.
Speaker 13 (23:13):
Well, I know it's not people that the day before
Shawn Combs is arrested, they go and have a hotel
night with them. They want to rub their feet in afterwards.
These are women that made bad choices to with the
sex stuff, but none of their testimony says that the
violence was to force them into it. She only got
angry when she thought Seawn Comes was actually sleeping with
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another person. She still had her rent paid. That was
her main concern when the employment separated. She testified to that.
So while Seawn Combs is a horrible, weak human being
and disgusting, the prosecution charged this as sex trafficking, and
the defense has to be very happy with what would
have been much worse testimony that Jane gave them. The
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things they said in opening that this was an angry person,
This was someone maybe you wouldn't do these type of
sex acts and these type of partying, but these women.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Intentionally did it.
Speaker 13 (24:09):
They only got angry after the fact. And that's what
we're seeing here. And as far as the sex trafficking case, unfortunately,
these aren't victims of sex trafficking. Real victims of sex
trafficking don't rub their captor's feet unless they're forced too.
They don't get their rent paid when they don't live
with the person. That's just not how it goes. So
he's a horrible human. But the defense got some good
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stuff to work with in Jane's testimony and the mistrial.
That's probably because Sean looked at the juror and the
prosecution got excited and tried to make a big deal
of it. So you know these things happening.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Sorry, the mistake motion was by the defense. I believe
it's the third one they've made that threw ones the
men shot down. So doctor Bethanie Marshall, say, did you
hear everything that Greg Morris just said? Say, that's the problem,
that is the problem. You just heard Tisa tails and
she's got a lot more to tell us about the
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beatings over and over, tearing down four doors to get
at the victim. And she's about to tell you about
all the written communications that Jane stands going, I don't
want to do this. I don't want to do this
as a matter of fact, Bethy.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Well, listen, listen to this.
Speaker 14 (25:20):
Jane sends texts I don't want to be used and
locked in a room to perform and fulfill your fantasies.
I'm not a porn star. I'm not an animal. Coming
to the realization of what this really is. When Combs replies,
she's the only one who can bring him peace, Jane
snaps back.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Introduce her to Pee.
Speaker 14 (25:40):
It's not me, it's the entertainment that puts you a
piece Pee referred to one of the entertainers, Paul.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
When a woman is beaten and beaten and beaten and
dragged and hiding in the bushes and riding, I am
not an animal. I don't want to be locked in
a room and forced to perform sex tricks while you watch.
That is not consensual sex. Well, Nancy, she's saying no.
Speaker 12 (26:10):
No means no. Even adolescents know that. Now in our society,
she is saying no. And he kicks down four doors.
And let me tell you something, Nancy, when a person
is enraged or having a rage attack, it takes only
twenty minutes for the admigned delight to calm back down again.
In other words, he could have controlled himself. He could
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have walked out that door, walked around the block, taken
a pause, taken a beat, but he enjoyed beating her.
This was a sadistic beat down which tells me that
he was in full.
Speaker 6 (26:46):
Control of her.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
I doubt she.
Speaker 12 (26:47):
Could have gotten away even though she was trying. He
beat her within an inch of her life and let
her live so he could sex traffick her even more
if these allegations are true. So we keep talking about
how women don't get away from men like this. This
is the tale, this unfolding right now. If anyone has
any doubt about women staying with men who abuse them
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or sex traffic them, just listen to the story and
ask yourself if Jane could have left or if she
was afraid for her life with me.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Danny Pinter Out of Washington, Senior vice president, Director of
Law Center National Center on Sex Exploitation. Danny, I'm reading
directly from the code. Sex trafficking involves exploiting a person
for sex acts through force, fraud, coercion, recruiting, harboring, transporting, providing,
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obtaining a person for sex exploitation, regardless of whether it's force,
fraud or coercion.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Bam.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
I've never seen a case fit into sex trafficking definitions
more than this one.
Speaker 15 (27:51):
You had the nail on the head, Nancy. This is
classic sex trafficking and the prosecution doesn't have to prove force, fraud,
and corsion. They can prove any one of them. But
I completely agree with you that every single one is present.
You could ask any law enforcement agency that investigates sex
trafficking and they have a word for what Sean Combs
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is doing. It's called romeo pimping. Literally, very often sex
trafficking victims rub the feet voluntarily of their captors. Very
often they believe they're in love, and part of that
loving relationship, the trafficker uses against them. And here we
have force with all the violence, we have fraud, where
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we heard in Jane Doe's testimony that Diddy lured her in,
groomed her with this big romantic relationship. It started off
very classic. He's taking on vacations. It was loving, it
was kind, it was gentle. This didn't start with freak offs.
He slowly introduces that that's fraudulent. And then we have
so many examples of coercion, as you stated, and as
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a doctor pointed out, many times she said she does
want to do this. Sean knew she didn't want to
do this, but he kept pushing her. And we know
it's coercion because the definition of coersion under the statute
is that using a scheme or a pattern to make
the victim believe that if they didn't comply, serious harmon
would come to them.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Crime stories with Nancy Grace.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
He's not used to being told no.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
And he throws a major tantrum because he can.
Speaker 4 (29:34):
I've seen him get so angry that he looks like
he's about to pass out.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
The veins in his neck.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Pop in the kickings, the beatings, the draggings.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
He just can't believe that somebody says no to you.
He can't believe it.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Welcome back joining us at the Monahan Federal.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Courthouse is Tisa tells investigator commentator, host of Tisa Tails
on you Tube where I found her, Tisa again, thank
you for being with us. I want to outline for
Greg Morris, who obviously does not know the definition of
sex trafficking or coercion, a point where Tisa Jane was
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in the bath, in the shower vomiting after being forced
to have sex with three male sex workers. Let's just
get that mental image for a moment, having another eighteen
hour sex marathon on video, which later she was threatened
with by the way, and then so disgusted, she starts vomiting,
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comes comes in, make sure she's through vomiting, and then
he's happy because he wants.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
Her to get back in the ring. Tell me what happened, Tisa.
Speaker 5 (30:47):
What happened was this is a time that she said
that she wanted to have a sobriety because she felt like,
much like Cassie, she was sliding down.
Speaker 6 (30:55):
The road with pills, trills, tricks, whatever. Did he want it? Okay?
Speaker 5 (31:00):
She literally arranged to have one heavily endowed man.
Speaker 6 (31:05):
After the other were by the way.
Speaker 5 (31:07):
She wasn't allowed to use any type of protection.
Speaker 6 (31:11):
Again, the pain was the point. And after she crawled
into that bathroom and she.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Bonded, wha wha wha wait wait wait wait wait.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Wait I didn't hear the part about the penises. Did
not hear that part? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Stop stop okay, I'm going to need a shrink after
this and a shower myself. I'm gonna spray myself with
lysol my ears after hearing this start start that over.
What did you say about the penises? This is not
about sex. This is about trying to hurt Jane.
Speaker 6 (31:45):
This was about hurting Jane.
Speaker 5 (31:47):
Did he have three requirements as far as I can see,
One the woman must suffer. Two they could not use protection,
and three the escort the pain.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
When you say protection, hey did you couldn't allow Jane
to have the sex worker use condoms. They had to
have your protected sex to make Shawn Combs over in
the corner masturbating happy.
Speaker 6 (32:10):
Listen when he saw that rubber, it killed his vibe.
He demanded he.
Speaker 5 (32:15):
Needed to see that Willie free, okay, and then he
literally after that.
Speaker 16 (32:21):
The third requirement was that they must be well, well, well,
heavenly heavily endowed, to the point of both victims.
Speaker 6 (32:31):
Actually said that they were always in pains.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Afterward, the words were in the courtroom heavily and down.
Speaker 6 (32:38):
Even above the way they looked in the face.
Speaker 5 (32:40):
He was only concerned with the side below the waist
again did he went after But let me just say
something to your man.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
He laffable in a way the way we're talking about it.
But just think about the victim begging. I want him
to at least use a condom, and I would actually
make Seawan Coms mad.
Speaker 5 (33:02):
It will not only make him mad, it would make
him enraged.
Speaker 6 (33:06):
As a matter of fact, and prior testimony.
Speaker 5 (33:08):
She told about the fact where there was a guy
and he was stinky and dirty and he was sweating
all over and she begged, can I please use a
kind She didn't want this guy touching her, touching her.
She just remembers sweat dripping on her face. There was
another time that she begged to use a condom and
he was standing behind the entertainer giving her the look
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of like you better go, don't mess this up for me,
and was signaling through violent body language and very menacing looks.
Cut it out, just do it, and she actually ended
up doing it. But again, even when they get into
everything that happened, you gotta talk about them before, Nancy,
because no one's talking about that, no offense to our
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esteemed to your esteem, guest, But what makes a real
victim when you see them and you're at the funeral,
when they're as a vegetable in the hospital, people are
being beat and stumped. Just an inch away can make
someone paralyzed. But let's talk about the real victims. Since
people need to see an episode from Leo Nilsen taken.
Speaker 6 (34:11):
Let me take you to the testimony yesterday.
Speaker 5 (34:13):
Jane, there just been slapped silly in the shower, two
gulf sized ball knocks on her head, a black eye farming.
What is did he tell her to do? I'll give
you three guesses. Did he apologize?
Speaker 6 (34:26):
Did he run?
Speaker 5 (34:27):
No? He literally told her, You're not gonna f up
my night. You're not gonna f up my life night.
I don't know what you're doing. You better take this
fing pill. Take this effing pill. He literally then forced
her to take and was screaming and not going to
f up my night. This is a woman that is fleet,
that has been beaten, that is bruised up. He made
her take the pill, and moments after just being brutally beaten,
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he forces her to perform with an entertainer named Antoine,
and after she performed right and was brutalized and felt
so dejected, he then plays this weird eyes, white shut
psychological thriller where he literally then says, how can I
expect you to ever be in a relationship.
Speaker 6 (35:14):
I can't stand you.
Speaker 5 (35:15):
You're a whore this year that and literally gets stressed
and leaves her alone while she is in a puddle
of tears alone.
Speaker 6 (35:22):
This guy is demonic.
Speaker 5 (35:25):
But I hope for everyone that's saying she's not.
Speaker 6 (35:27):
A real victim, then what does a real victim look like?
Speaker 2 (35:31):
The incredible, vast waste of luxury goods, money just throwing it.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
He's used to throwing money at any situation to get
what he wants.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
With me is special guest Chris McDonough. He's a director
of the Cole Case Foundation, former homicide detective, three hundred
homicide investigations under his belt. Is the star of the
interview room on YouTube. But for my purposes now he
worked vice. You and I have seen plenty of sex
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trafficking cases, plenty of pimps.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
What do you think about that? What do you think
about that?
Speaker 17 (36:15):
Yeah, as Shesha said, I mean, this is the ditty
special and he is a pimp in an entertainer's environment.
And you know the fact that he this is classic Nancy.
You've seen it so many times and this he has
stripped these victims of their self identity. It's all about power,
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control and dominance. That is the way he keeps them
in his harem. And he's able to do and say
whatever he feels, whatever he wants.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
And remember one thing, the word there.
Speaker 17 (36:51):
Is what he wants, not what she needs, not what
she wants, not what she desires and how to get
out of the situation. He is controlling everything about the violence,
about the sexual fantasy. This guy is dangerous and I'm
glad he's in trial and hopefully the right outcome will
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come as a.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
Result of this.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
You know. Tisa TiAl is joining us at the courthouse,
a star of Tisa Tales on YouTube.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
Tisa this is the.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Example I used out of all my sex trafficking investigations.
The first one. The girl the victims fourteen just turned fourteen,
and I went into a hotel room to find her.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
I said.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
I came out to the vice and I said, she's
not in there. This thirty five year old women. Forty
year old women in there. They went, No, it's her
in the white boots. I went back in. That was
a fourteen year old little girl. She looked like a
thirty five year old stripper. And what made me think
of it is you telling me that comes told her
to stop vomiting, quit crying, and put on some makeup
(37:56):
and get back in that she's going to have to
f so and have to ask somebody, and on and on,
and just her thinking about her putting that makeup back on,
just like that little girl did that I represented, and
that little girl, by the way, Tisa, vanished during the
trial after I already struck the jury.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
You don't get two bites of apple.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
You strike a jury on a case, you lose your
victim that you can't try them again. We found her
and they were convicted. But what I'm saying is making
her put on that makeup on top of those bruises
and those tears and her mouth tasting like vomit. I mean,
(38:40):
how did the jury react?
Speaker 6 (38:43):
Listen?
Speaker 5 (38:43):
The jury reacted disgusting. And just to let you know,
all the testimony is blurring together. There was the incidence
that she testified about yesterday where after she got beat
to a pulp, she had to put on makeup. And
when I say that, the jury, when they heard what
happened with the goal fall size, they were disgusted. A
few of the women looked like were just shaking their
(39:06):
head silently. There was a real sense of judgment. And
this is looking at the photos, and unlike Cassie, she
has photos. But the thing is the photos were accidental.
Dinny's little scheme in my mind of keeping her clothes
because she is the woman that could destroy him which,
by the way, let that sink in. This woman can
destroy you or it can be your redemption. And you're
(39:28):
still brutally beating her in the coming days where he
was still playing that according to Danielle the Romeo lover
boy Pip situation, she was taking.
Speaker 6 (39:36):
Just videos of him while he was posing because he
loved to be the muse.
Speaker 5 (39:42):
And in those videos, the camera accidentally pans over her
face showing the black eyes, showing the nuts. But there
was even videos that she actually had when she was
taking her son for a walk with sunglasses and she
accidentally just lets the camera pan and she's with her
son with a black eye, trying to be a mother,
just out taking her son for a walk. Again, the
(40:04):
level of violence and dehumanization. And also from Diddy's trial,
it wasn't over. He then they showed us some messages,
and they showed us played voice notes where he was
unrepentant and still psychologically telling her that she's not a
good woman. They can't be together. This is why they
can never truly be together again. So much was thrown.
(40:27):
I'm sure it's blurring all together for the jury.
Speaker 16 (40:29):
You know.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
Doctor Bethany Marshall joining a psychoanalyst out of La, author
of a deal breaker. You can see her on peacock
now and she's at doctor Bethany Marshall dot com. Doctor
Bethany questioned to you jumping off. What TSA tells is
just recounted the dichotomy of her with those bruises on
her face and knots on her head out trying to
(40:51):
take her son out for a walk and be a mom.
That dichotomy. But my question to you is, how is
that sex? To Shaun Colmes, I don't with her in
one case of vomiting after a train, with her having
to put makeup on over bruises and not literally not
(41:12):
on our head and getting back into the hotel night
aka free coll aka rape, how is that sexy?
Speaker 1 (41:22):
I don't see that.
Speaker 12 (41:23):
So we're talking about this as sex trafficking and multiple
perversions and abuse and all of that. Why don't we
just use a much more accurate word or another word,
which is torture. So what does he do? He picks
men with the largest penises he can find, prohibits her
from using condoms, watch her vomit. That's as cruel as
(41:45):
he can get. And he needs to keep ratching it
up Nancy in order to maintain the sexual excitement.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
And now we remember an American hero. Senior Chief Petty
Officer to Rell Horn, usked Coastguard, killed in action attempting
to intercept smugglers. He served fourteen years with the US
Coast Guard and leaves behind a grieving wife Rachel Sons,
(42:14):
Cad and Miller. American hero Senior Chief Petty Officer to
Rel Horne, Nancy Gray signing off Goodbye fight
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