December 19, 2025 • 45 mins
Ricky Johnson, David Harrington, and Clayton McGeeney were last seen alive on January 7, 2024, watching the final regular-season Kansas City Chiefs game at the home of their friend, Jordan Willis. Two days later, authorities found their frozen bodies outside the house.
After a yearlong investigation, prosecutors charged Jordan Willis and Ivory Carson in connection with the deaths, which gained national attention. Both men face three counts of involuntary manslaughter and two counts of delivering a controlled substance. Police say Carson, known as "Blade Brown," supplied and sold cocaine to Willis and the victims. Investigators found Carson's DNA on a bag of fentanyl inside Willis' home.
During the investigation, law enforcement initially said they did not suspect foul play. A toxicology report later confirmed that the men had cocaine, THC, and fentanyl in their systems. Police have since ruled the deaths as caused by "fentanyl and cocaine toxicity."
As the case progressed, Willis moved out of the home and checked into rehab. A forensic analysis of Harrington’s phone uncovered text messages between Willis, McGeeney, Johnson, and others, linking Carson to the cocaine supply. DNA evidence identified Willis as a major contributor, and a second bag contained DNA matching Carson, confirming his role as the drug supplier.
After a recent court hearing Willis said he was confident in his case when asked by reporters
Joining Nancy Grace today:
- Jonathan Price - Brother of Ricky Johnson
- Derek Smith - Criminal Defense Attorney
- Dr. Heidi Green - Clinical Psychologist, Trauma Specialist, and Author: ‘The Path to Self-Love and World Domination; IG: @drheidigreen
- Barry Hutchison - Former 26-year Law Enforcement Veteran and Detective, Owner & Chief Investigator for Barry & Associates Investigative Services located in Kansas & Missouri
- Dr. Kendall Crowns - Chief Medical Examiner Tarrant County (Ft Worth), NEW Podcast --- launching on April 7th, Lecturer: Burnett School of Medicine at TCU (Texas Christian University)
- Eric Zahnd - Platte County Prosecutor in Missouri
- Alexis Tereszcuk - Crimeonline.com Investigative Reporter
- Dave Mack - CrimeOnline Investigative Reporter
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Three friends, three Kansas City Chiefs fans, dead in the
backyard and on the porch of another friend.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
To other Chiefs fans have a cold blooded.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Reaction when they meet face to face in court over
the murder of their friends. I'm Nancy Grace. This is
Crime Stories. I want to thank you for being with us.
Two former friends are accused of killing three Kansas City
Chiefs fans, and they just sat in the last days,
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shoulder to shoulder in a Missouri courtroom, staring coldly, straight ahead,
stone face and never stating a single word to each other.
It was Jordan Willis and Ivory Carson, less than five
feet apart in the Platte County courtroom before Judge Abe
(01:10):
Quint Schaeffer. Willis was wearing a blue buttoned down and slacks.
He's free on one hundred thousand dollars bond. Carson steel
jailed hobbled in wearing an orange jumpsuit and ankle shackles.
Each one faces three counts of second degree felony murder
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and distribution of drugs and the deaths of their friends,
Ricky Johnson, David Harrington and Clayton mcgeiney.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Their frozen bodies.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Were found outside Jordan Willis's home on a cold January ninth.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
All of them had gathered for.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
What was supposed to be a fun Sunday watch party
watching the Chiefs, and despite a friendship amongst all of
them group text being fans of the Chiefs regular get togethers,
these do didn't even look at each other in court.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
And I think I know why.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Two arrested over the deaths of three Kansas City Chiefs
fans who apparently froze to death and their scientist's friend
backyard and on his porch, and he didn't.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Notice a thing for two days.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
A guy is dead, your friend is dead in a
lounge chair on your porch, and you go two days
ignoring repeated calls, text messages, social media requests from family
and friends.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
You don't see any of that. You show up at
the front.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Door and you're underwear with a glass of wine and go, hahua, listen.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Jordan Willis and Ivory Carson have been charged with distribution
of a controlled substance and three counts of involuntary manslaughter.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
That from our friends at k NBC nine News joining
me in All Star Panel but first I want to
go to a very special guest joining us. It's Jonathan Price,
the brother of one of those three victims, Ricky Johnson.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Jonathan, thank you for being.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
With us, Thank you for having me Nancy.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Jonathan, I wonder sometimes if this day would ever come.
You said from the get go, something is wrong, something
is horribly wrong. It didn't happen this way, and you
were right, yeah, it just from the.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Very beginning, it didn't make sense. And it still doesn't
make sense that they were able to rule out foul
play from day one, and then you know, with these charges.
I mean, I don't know the legal definition of foul play,
but it definitely seems like they now believe that there
was foul play. So just keeping us in the dark
for this long, it's very troubling, but there is still
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a sense of relief among all of us that this
is hopefully coming to a conclusion.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
You guys have been dragged through hell and back. And
during the Super Bowl when of the Chiefs were playing,
I thought about you and your family, and I wondered
what's going.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Through their minds tonight as.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Everybody's celebrating and partying, and you still did not have
answers in your brother's death.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
Yeah, I mean, you know, I think about Ricky daily,
and you know, even more so when the Chiefs are
playing or KU's playing. You know, there's you know, he
cared much about his family and his sports, and we
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shared that our entire lives and uh, you know those
those memories will always live on and uh, you know,
like I said before, it's there. There is a sense
of relief that, you know, something that's coming from all
of this.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Well, I was wondering, Jonathan, when everybody was celebrating and
there was the big lead up to the Chiefs playing
in the Super Bowl and everybody's what's Taylor Swift gonna wear?
And are they going to get engaged? Is she pregnant?
Blah blah blah blah blah. Were you thinking what about
my brother? What about my brother? Because I was thinking
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that the whole way through the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
Absolutely, you know, every day we've been saying this, and
you know, it kind of went a radio asilent for
a very long time. And then you know, we were
still hearing that there was no foul play. You know,
there's there's just too much still out there, and it's
it's all about what's going to come out of trial.
(05:54):
But you know there's still lots of questions.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Yeah, you're right, Jonathan, there is absolutely gonna to be
a trial.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
You guys kept in the.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Dark for so long, which must have been agonizing, agonizing
as you wanted so badly for your brother to get justice,
and to think that for all that time, he sat
in his house, throwing back the booze, hanging around in
his underwear. And this guy is no idiot. He's a scientist,
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for Pete's sake. Ignoring the dead body in allounced chair
on the porch, ignoring his friend's cars parked directly in
front of his house. How can you ignore that? How
can you not hear the phone for two days, not
notice that you are being barraged in social media and
texts and emails, acting like nothing happened, and then to
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pack up and leave town.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Well, this is how the whole thing started.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
January seventh, there is a football day for the Kansas
City Chiefs as they will be playing the Los Angeles Chargers.
So thirty eight year old Jordan Willis it's a couple
of buddies to come to his house and watch the game.
David Harrington, Ricky Johnson, and Clayton mcghiney arrive at Willis's
house just in time for the three twenty five kickoff.
They enjoy the games. The Chiefs beat the Chargers thirteen
to twelve, and Willis makes plans for them to get
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tickets to the next home game.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
So everything's fine. They're all there watching the game together.
Then what happens after the game? Jordan Willis waves the
guys off and crashes on the couch.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
On Monday, January eighth, Jordan Willis claims he did not
leave his home at all. He would normally have to
take his dogs Sadie and Daisy outside to do their business,
but they're all staying at his dad's place.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Okay, wait a minute.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
He had described his dogs as the quote loves of
his life. How did they end up somewhere else? Okay,
that's just a tangential question. But right there, something is
way wrong.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Joining me.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Crime Stories investigative reporter Dave Matt Right there.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Dave, Jordan Willison, this is on a sun the scientist.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
He waves away the friends and claims he crashes on
the sofa for.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
What the next two or three days?
Speaker 2 (08:09):
I mean, if you take it from Sunday until finally
the police were at the front door after the girlfriend
breaks in the window to find the dead body and
starts screaming.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
I mean, that's his story day, seriously.
Speaker 5 (08:24):
And he's sticking to it, Nancy. He has always claimed
that he crashed out, doesn't know what the guys did.
He was sound asleep for the next seventy two hours,
and he missed all the messages. He didn't get any
pet he didn't get any text messages, phone calls because
that phone was ringing off the hook. All those guys,
family and friends were reaching out to him because they
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were always in contact. But Jordan Willis claims he slept
through the entire thing for three days and he only
got up when they basically broke into his house and
tell him there were dead guys on the backyard.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Jonathan Price is with me. This is Ricky Johnson's brother
who passed away. You know, when I think about what
he went through, it was so cold out there, do
you let yourself. I mean, I try not to think
about what my fiance went through when he was murdered.
He was shot five times in the face, the neck,
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the head, and I try not to think about it,
because it will mess me up so badly, and I
have children to raise. Do you ever let yourself think
about what Ricky went through while their friend was inside
in his underwear passed out.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
Yeah, I think about that all the time, you know,
especially with you know, these these three gentlemen, you know,
being inseparable for a very very long time, and for
all three of them to happen at the exact same time,
and what some of them were going through in the
final moments of seeing maybe one of their friends go
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down first. So many questions still on how that would
have happened.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
And I pray that all the facts, not just some
of the facts, but that all the facts will come
out and we will know.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Is no idiot?
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Three days Sunday Monday Tuesy, and I never knew my friend.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
My friend was dead.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
On the front on the back porch, and my other
friends were dead lying in my yard.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
How can he? How can he say that? Oh? Yeah,
and all the phone.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Calls and all the texts and all the emails and
all the social media.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
He said he was wearing noise canceling headphones for three days.
Speaker 6 (10:37):
Really, he says he was wearing noise canceling earphones, and
he was in his house. He didn't notice the car
in front, and he didn't notice three of his friends.
He wasn't texting them the day after. Hey, guys, let's
go get tickets for the next game because the Chiefs
had won. Completely acted like he was completely shut off
from the whole world and noise canceling headphones. Sure, maybe right,
(10:58):
You maybe can't hear a little in the next room,
but you're going to hear people beating on your door
and you're going to see your phone flowing up for
two days.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
So let me understand something, Dave Mac.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
How many days passed before the girlfriend the fiance has
to come and literally break in?
Speaker 1 (11:17):
When did that happen? Just give me a number.
Speaker 7 (11:19):
Two days?
Speaker 1 (11:20):
All right?
Speaker 5 (11:20):
Two days?
Speaker 1 (11:21):
What day was on the game was Tuesday?
Speaker 5 (11:25):
Games on Saturday, on Sunday the seventh, and Tuesday the
ninth is the day police are at the door.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Okay, you know what.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
They didn't teach me math in law school. But seven
eight nine, that's three days. Seven is Sunday, the day
of the game, which is in the early afternoon, all night,
all day Monday until finally Tuesday, when the fiance is
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beside herself. She can't find her fiance and goes looking
for him.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Listen.
Speaker 8 (12:00):
On January eight, friends and family are concerned. They were
headed to Jordan willis house to watch the game, but
now none of the guys, including Jordan Willis, are replying
to messages on social media or by phone.
Speaker 9 (12:14):
On Tuesday, January ninth, nine fifty one pm, Clayton McKinney's
fiance shows up at the house. She sees the cars
in the driveway, and since nobody is answering the phone
or replying to messages, she breaks into the home and
screams Willis's name. She walks through the house. Then she
looks on the back porch and sees a body.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Oh my stars, okay, Jonathan Price is joining me.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
This is Ricky's brother, beloved brother.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
I might ad they grew up together and they would
argue about who's going to watch Power Rangers and.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Who's gonna watch ESPN.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Very very loving relationship, their whole lives.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
In my mind, that's three days.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
You got the Chiefs game early afternoon Sunday, there together
in Sunday night all day Monday, Monday night, and then
Tuesday nine fifty one. That's nearly ten o'clock at night,
Clayton's fiance comes hysterical trying to find him, has to
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break in and seize a dead body. Is my timing correct, Jonathan?
Speaker 4 (13:27):
I mean it appears to be correct. You know, I'm
not very good at math either, but you know, there's
there's a question in my mind that there's no possible
way you can sleep that long and just not know
what's going on.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
I agree, Jonathan, no way.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
What was he doing in the joining me is a
veteran defense attorney who has handled a number of high
profile cases. Derek Smith is joining me out of Ohio.
He's at d W Smithlegal dot com. Derek, really the
defense I slept through the whole thing. I mean, for
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those of you who just joining us, finally movement a
bombshell arrest of two people in connection with the deaths
of three Kansas City chiefs fans who were frozen to
death and their buddy, the scientist backyard Derek Smith.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Can he really look at.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
A jury and say, I slept for three days with
noise canceling headsets on, I knew nothing.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Yes and no.
Speaker 10 (14:33):
This is a terrible situation. Is best friends some of
his frenzies with this whole entire life. Like they said,
they were very close utter uttershock and disbelief and just
manic depression will put somebody down. Looking out your window
and seeing your friends in the condition they were in.
That's enough right there to send a person into deep shock,
disbelief and just pass right back out.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Does not want to be that's a good one.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
So he saw the bodies and then passed back out,
you know to doctor Hidie Green joining me, clinical psychologist,
trauma specialist, author of The Path to Self Love and
World Domination, Doctor Heidie Green dot com, Doctor Heidi. So
now we're getting a spin on that and no telling
what it's going to morph into by the time this
goes to trial. So Jonathan Price braced yourself. So Derek
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Smith is spinning it out, you know, like Rumpel Stileskin
would take that nasty hay out of the barn and
spin it into gold. He is now hypothesizing that the defendant,
one of the two arrested in the desks of three
people that were left to freeze out.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
In the yard one on his porch, is that he.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Came to from his deep sleep. You know, I'll throw
in sleeping beauty. There he came to saw the dead
body of his friend and then passed out. Doctor Heidie Green,
psychologically speaking, that seems very unlikely to me.
Speaker 7 (15:55):
So it is very unlikely that he fell unconscious for
seventy two hours as a result of a significant trauma.
And we can say if your friends died accidentally, if
that's what we're going with, and you saw them in
your home, it's obviously possible that you would have a
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significant trauma response, and that trauma response could include a
freeze response. I could see somebody maybe being in their
house terrified to answer the throne, terrified to go and
look at the bodies, wanting to essentially just pretend like
nothing's going on. But to actually be unconscious for seventy
two hours, that seems far less likely as a trauma report.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Crime Stores with Nancy Grace, it was a bone chilling
January nine, mcgheiney's fiance, April Mahoney, actually broke into Willis's
home after she had called over and over and over
frantically trying to find her love, who she had not
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heard from for two days, and it was there she
found the bodies of three men in all frozen solid,
all still dressed in their Kansas City Chiefs gear, slumped
in the backyard, and now there remained two, Jordan Willis
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and Ivory Carson. The two sat lesson five feet apart
in court as a judge ruled their case. We'll go
to trial. What happened that Sunday afternoon.
Speaker 8 (17:42):
Clayton mcguinea's fiance Colls Police officers arrived to find Willis
in his underwear with an empty glass of wine in hand.
According to the victims' families, the other two bodies were
then found in the backyard. Jordan Willis tells police he
has no idea what happened. John Piserno, and attorney representing Willis,
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said his client had no idea his friends were dead
until police knocked on his door. Tayley Lettier wrote, my
husband banged on his door for twenty minutes. My friend
banged on his door and then busted a window and
yelled and announced her presence while she's inside and steal
nothing from him. Then the cops come ten minutes later,
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and he comes out nonchalant in his boxers with an
empty wine glass in hand. Nothing is adding up. Dave
clay and Ricky need and deserve justice.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Yes they do. And Jonathan Price is with me. This
is Ricky's brother, Jonathan. Your brother is always described as
a Kansas City Chief fan. That's really not doing him justice.
He was so much more. Tell me, well, Ricky was
very humble.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
He loved everybody he ever interacted with. He always saw
the good and people. He helped out anybody in need anytime,
no matter if at one time they were seen as
you know, enemies or or you know, just not friends
in general. But he was just such a kind person,
loving father, brother, son, cousin. You know, he he was
(19:19):
truly cherished by our entire family.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Tell me about your family, Well, I mean.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
We kind of we grew up, you know, separated at
some points, but we always came together for family events.
Speaker 11 (19:34):
You know.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
We were always there at Christmas times, holding our own
different Christmases to make sure that all of our schedules
matched up to where we can all see each other.
And when I was in the military, anytime I came
home there Ricky and my other brother Russie, they always
made it a point, and my sister Lisa, they always
all made it a point to come home all to
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be together every time. So we you know, we chaished
each other. And there's very fond memories of uh of
Ricky growing up and everything he was to all of us.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
When you say the memories you had growing up? What memories?
Speaker 4 (20:12):
Well, my love for football, I love for all sports
came from Ricky. You know, seeing my my two oldest brothers,
you know, throwing the football farther than I could imagine
when I was a you know, small child. I just
I looked up to them. You know, we we went
to the very first game that Patrion Mahomes was playing
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in the preseason, and uh we you know, he met
my entire family, and you know, even though we were
states away, you know, we always we always talked about
the sports of Kansas City and you know, everything that
we were accomplishing. Finally, after so many years of being
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you know, an up and down team. You know, we
we shared a lot of memories together, and uh, I
just I love them.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
We are learning more about the deaths of the so
called Three Chiefs Fans.
Speaker 12 (21:08):
As news starts to spread of the three friends freezing
to death in the backyard while their friend is asleep inside.
The families of the victims begin to speak out and
ask questions. The biggest question for Jordan Willis is what
happened next? Was why didn't you answer calls, text messages
and social media messages from family and friends of the
three men.
Speaker 5 (21:28):
The Daily Mail reports. Willis insists he spent the next
two days in his home not thinking anything of the
fact that his friend's cars were still outside, and only
learned they died when the fiance of one of the
men broke into the house on January ninth in the
hopes of finding him.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Jonathan Price, Where were the victims cars part in relation
to the friends home?
Speaker 4 (21:51):
I guess if you're based on what I've heard, if
you look out the front door, they were just off
to the right, And I guess there was potentially out
of the three cars, because I think someone might have carpooled.
But either way, my brother drove in that F one fifty,
so it was, you know, se my large truck right
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there in the front. There's no way to miss it.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
So Barry Hudgeson joining me, former l e now chief
investigator for Barry and Associates Investigative Services in Kansas and Missouri.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Barry, let me understand, So this.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Guy, the so called friend could find a wine glass
and fill it up with wine, and find his noise
canceling headphones. He could find those, he could see those,
but he couldn't see his dead friend on the porch
and in the yard, or their vehicles part in front
of his house.
Speaker 13 (22:43):
Man see this story, you know, his his excuses for
how everything happened.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
It just makes no sense at all.
Speaker 13 (22:50):
You know, I've been thinking about this and one of
the things that I thought about. You know, the guy
came to the door in his underwear and he said
that he had been asleep for seventy two hours. We
knew that he'd been drinking a lot, apparently, so if
he slept for solid three hours, don't you think his
body would have evacuated while he was asleep for three
solid days. If he never got up, he would have
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wet hisself. Did he come to the door with soiled
underwear or did he look like he urinated on his sef?
You know, when you arrest a drunk on the street
most of the time and they're awake, theype all over
their self. This guy didn't look like he urinated on
his stef because if he didn't, that kind of shoots
that story right in behind the end if he.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Asked me, Yeah, I mean he had to get up
and go to the bathroom.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Doctor Kendall Crown's joining me, and he's here for other reasons,
but since we're on this topic, Doctor Kendall Crown's with me.
Chief Medical Examiner Terrant County. That's fort Worth never Alike,
a business esteemed lecturer at Burnett's School of Medicine TCU
and launching a new PODCASTA Dead on Arrival March seven.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Doctor Crown's is that true what Barry just told us?
Speaker 2 (23:58):
I mean, how could he go seventy two hours drinking
let me add that in and not getting up and
finding his way to the bathroom.
Speaker 14 (24:05):
Oh, I agree with that. There's no way you could
sleep for three days after consuming them with chilcohol and
also eating that. Your body wouldn't urinate on itself for defecates.
So it's impossible to believe that he spent that entire
time asleep and not getting up and go at least
going to the bathroom.
Speaker 9 (24:24):
Jordan Willis's attorney, John Piserno, refuses to answer questions about
whether the men were using drugs. Paserno says there was
a fifth man in the home on the night of
January seventh. Willis says the man is a buddy who
left earlier than the other three men.
Speaker 5 (24:37):
As the investigation heated up, Jordan Willis moved out of
the home and checked into rehab. A forensic data extraction
found text messages on Harrington's phone between Willis, mcgheini, Johnson,
and others that proved Carson was the person who supplied
the group with cocaine, DNA evidence mash Willis identifying him
as a major contributor, and DNA evidence from the second bag.
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Matt Carson, confirming his role as the drugs of liar.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Packs up and goes to rehab.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
So to Jonathan Price, when did you learn that the
so called best friend of your brother packs up, clears
out the house, takes his dog, and goes to rehab.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
I mean, the only time that we found out was
whenever he was reported in the news, which is kind
of the unfortunate part of all this. But if you
have the mental capacity to know you have a problem
after the fact and check yourself into rehab, then you
know you know more about what happened that night. And
I don't know if you shared that or not with
the authorities. But the fact that he was not detained,
(25:43):
you know, after that night or the past fourteen months,
doesn't really make any sense to me.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Yeah, you know too, Derek Smith. Why is that the
go to with your clients and all the stars. It's
only after they're busted for something that they suddenly realize
they have a problem and they hide out in rehabit.
Speaker 10 (26:02):
Well, unfortunately, it takes an event like that to really
change lifestyle or change a mindset or even in these
cases a serious edition.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
I mean, it's akin to.
Speaker 10 (26:13):
Being in a certain way of life, certain way of
doing things. Everything's fine as long as everything's fine, and
then something tragic or something terrible, or the law gets
involved and you have to make a drastic change.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
And that's unfortunately just how it is. Sometimes.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Joining me right now is a special guest just joining us,
Eric Zand is with us. It is the Platte County
prosecutor who was working on the case. And I know
Eric number one, thank you for being with us. But
I know what you can say is limited, having been
(26:46):
a prosecutor for many years myself, but I want to
thank you for being with us. The family questioned this
from the get go, and I know the prosecutors get
the case once LA law enforcement finished their investigation. But
I'm sure you know, having dealt with so many crime victims,
how agonizing this has been for the family to be
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waiving the banner. This isn't right, This isn't normal. This
guy's not innocent. He won't say a word to us
about what happened. This is the alleged best friend. They've
been waiting all this time. Now, Eric, don't get me wrong,
I'm glad we finally have bombshell arrests in the deaths
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of the three Kansas City chiefs.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Fans, but what took so long? Please explain it?
Speaker 11 (27:35):
Yeah, You're absolutely right, And Nancy, this was a long
time coming. And our hearts absolutely go out to these
family members. I met with them shortly after these deaths,
and it's just really tragic. It's honestly, it's another reminder
of the dangers of street drugs, and these cases are
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tough to put together. Cracking down who's responsible providing these
drugs is no easy task. But I can't tell you
how proud I am Nancy of the Kansas City Police
Department and prosecutors in my office who from day one
said that they weren't going to rest until we exhausted
every possible resource to bring the people we believe responsible
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for these crimes to justice, and yesterday was the first
step in that. As you know, these men are presumed
innocent and lesson until proven guilty. But we've charged them
what we think happened, which was providing cocaine and fentanyl
and causing the deaths of these three men.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
As a matter of fact, this is what Platte County
Prosecutor Eric Zand had to say.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
A doctor with Forensic Medical of Kansas found that mister mcgheini,
mister Harrington, and mister Johnson all died of fentanyl and
cocaine combined toxicity.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Now from our forensic KMBC nine News.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
So Eric assertion, what you're going to prove, I think
in trial is that the casual use of a little cocaine,
although family says that at least one of the victims
had never used cocaine before, but the casual use of
cocaine turned deadly because it was cut with fentanyl.
Speaker 11 (29:20):
Yeah, in this case, what we alleged is that there
were two baggies found at the scene. One of those
baggies contained cocaine. The other baggie we alleged contained fentanyl.
The me found that it was a combination of those
two drugs that caused these men's deaths. And so we've
charged both of the men, one of them who we
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believe provided the cocaine, the other who we alleged sold
the fentanyl that caused these deaths. And we allege, because
we charged with them with manslaughter, that they recklessly caused
the deaths of these three men.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
As a matter of fact, listen to what Jonathan Price
had to say.
Speaker 15 (30:02):
From the very beginning. He said that before the fifth
person came out, he said that Jordan was there sporadically
throughout the day and then whenever. And then he also
did not mention in a fifth person. But once the
fifth person came out, then he changed it to saying
that there was a fifth person and that he was
asleep the entire time. So those were two very specific
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details that were specific in the opening statement but then
changed over time.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
So Alexis Tereschuk, joining US Crime Stories investigative reporter the
best friend now charged in a homicide case, changed his story.
He never mentioned anybody else was there beside him and
his three buddies all dead, frozen dead in the backyard,
and he goes three days and doesn't notice they're on
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his back porch. There's a mystery guy, a fifth person.
Act says he changed his story. Why because the fifth
person was a person that provided the drugs.
Speaker 6 (31:02):
According to police, this is somebody who they have all
known for quite a while that Jordan has known, and
he was contacted and this man brought the drugs.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
This so there's cocaine.
Speaker 6 (31:14):
Jordan Willis's DNA is on the cocaine, Ivory Carson's DNA
is on the bag of fentanyl, and that is the
toxic combination that killed these men. So he was he
had come over and brought them the cocaine. And the
way that the police found this out wasn't through Jordan Willis.
He never mentioned any of these details. But David Harrington's
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phone is the one phone that they were able to
extract evidence from, and they saw on there there were
group chats about buying the cocaine. Willis was the one
that would always provide it for them. These other guys
didn't have enough cocaines expensive it's not a cheap drug.
And then you topped that off of the Fennyl and
he was the one that did it. So there were
group chat tech messages that showed that these were having out.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
The drugs to air.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Exanne joining me right now, Platts County prosecutor who is
charged with last swing all this evidence and presenting it
to a jury, did he really think we wouldn't find
out about the fifth guy, the mystery man, and all
of his statements at the get go that was never mentioned.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
Now we know why he was the dope.
Speaker 11 (32:20):
Dealer well, and Nancy I can't. I can't comment on
exactly what either of these defendants thought or said, but
what I can tell you is that we allege that
mister Willis provided cocaine and mister Carson sold Entinel to
these men, and we alleged that resulted in the deaths
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of these three great people who were boyfriend's husbands, fathers,
sons of people in Kansas City. It's truly tragic. And
here's what folks have to understand. If you deal drugs
and somebody dies as a result, we will do everything
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we can to make sure that you're held accountable for
the deaths of those people. That's exactly what we're trying
to do in this case.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
The bodies of David Harrington, Clayton mcgheaney, and Ricky Johnson
all found in the backyard of their friend Jordan Willis's
home Kansas City last January, frozen dead. The temperature that
night was just eighteen degrees fear and height. One of
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the victims seated upright in a patio chair, the others
lying sprawled nearby, ice crusted on their faces. Investigators now
calling it quote foul play by stealth and to psychology
reports confirm all three died of cocaine laced with fentanel.
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Police even find two plastic baggies in the home, one
containing cocaine with Willis's DNA and another with fentanyl and
Carson's DNA. Video was shown in court Willis sitting in
the back of a police cart telling his version of
the night before. He went on to insist he had
no idea his friends died just steps away from him.
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What more do we know?
Speaker 15 (34:35):
You look at any of their facebooks, any picture that's
posted that it's not of their family, it's of these men.
And if just one of them, even two of them,
passed out at the same time, which is already impossible.
You know, the other man would have absolutely brought them
inside and called for help something. So that's just insane.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
This is what Platt County Prosecutor Eric Xander tells us.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
He saw a large play of cocaine allegedly supplied by
mister Willis that everyone was using.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
According to prosecutors, the defendant provided it, the friend, the friend,
the scientists, the HIV researcher Jordan Willis, H thirty nine.
The best friend supplied a plate of coke, possibly laced
with fentanyl to his friends. You were just hearing from
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our friends at KMBC nine US to doctor Kendall Crown's
joining us, Doctor Kendll crowns, I want to understand how
the use of these drugs, potentially cocaine cut with fentanyl.
Don't know if they knew it was cut with fentanyl,
what that would look like. I mean, it's hard for
me to understand. Although I've heard about it, I've prosecuted,
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I've seen it at crime scenes where you have a
party and there's a plate of cocaine out. I mean,
I would think there'd be sandwiches and chicken wings right, salery, carrots,
ranch dip. There's a plate of cocaine and everybody's doing it.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
You know how many times have you heard that, mom?
Everybody's doing it?
Speaker 2 (36:12):
How are people supposed to know that cocaine can be
laced with dentanyl and what fentanyl can do with you?
Even a touch a fentanyl can kill you. So what
would fentanyl look like? Can it be in a powder form?
Speaker 14 (36:30):
Yes, it can. Actually it'll be kind of in a wipe.
It can be in a white pottery form. It can
be in the form of a fake percocet, which is
a blue pill that has an M thirty label on it.
It can be a patch. It can even be on
a lazengers type sucker is one of the ways it
is distributed. But anyway, cocaine, if it's cut with something fentanyl,
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can be very deadly.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
And you don't know.
Speaker 14 (36:54):
How much fentanyl has been put in there, how much
fentanyl you're actually getting with the amount of cocaine that's
been cut with it. So that's why you could have
a group of people sitting together and three of them
die and two of them live because one got more
fentanyl than the other. Because it's really not regulated like
a drug through the FDA. It's just widely all over
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the place. So that's why the street drugs are very
dangerous as you never know what you're getting. And one thing,
we've had cocaine cut with a dog dee wormer as well,
so it's incredibly dangerous.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
Under Kendel crowns, I have investigated cases, for instance, an
infant at daycare. Little did the family know that the
daycare provider was storing fentanyl there also dealing like I
think the husband or the boyfriend was dealing, and they
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moved the fentanyl from one place to the next inside
the daycare, and that movement released particles of fentanyl and
the infant in hailed it or touched it.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
It killed the baby.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
So if you've got a plate of cocaine lace with
any finnel at all, there's your OD right there. What
started off, as I guess in good time is in death.
I mean you can die from even inhaling particles or
touching particles of finfandol.
Speaker 14 (38:20):
Yes, fentanyl is incredibly dangerous and even its friend or
another derivative of it, car fentanyl, is even more dangerous.
It's come down to the fact that law enforcement and
paramedics will now carry in a lock zone, which is
a way to counteract the effects of the opioid in
their rigs or in their cars to if they get
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exposed to it and begin having symptoms, they can take
it and try and save themselves. So fentanyl is incredibly dangerous.
It's not a drug you really should mess with, you know.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
I'm just thinking about these victims and how they ended
up frozen in plain view of their so called Jordan Willis.
You know, I'm trying to think about their families. Dave
mac tell me about the victims' families. I know Jonathan
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is here speaking on behalf of his brother Ricky, who
died that day, whose body sat out there freezing for
so long.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
What about the other victims, you know?
Speaker 5 (39:21):
Nancy? Mister Harrington's mom, Theresa, claimed she's been kept out
of the loop since the bodies were found. She said
that they wouldn't tell me anything. Now she is saying
that the statements made it easy to think that they
had already made up their minds and there wouldn't be
any further investigation. And she's really pushing back on this.
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She said the arrest didn't really clear up any speculation
about the dead, saying quote, I still don't know anything
about how my son died or his last moments. That's
pretty upsetting when you look at this over a year
down the road, that she doesn't know any more than
you and I might know.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
Well, Kendall Crown's what was some one go through?
Speaker 2 (40:01):
If they literally sat outside and an accidental ventyl stupor
and froze dead, that would be horrible, But they couldn't
get up and move.
Speaker 14 (40:15):
So basically, fentyl makes your respiratory drive decrease and makes
your brain not think it needs enough oxygen, and so
you slowly kind of drift off into a coma that
eventually your brain, not getting enough oxygen, begins to die,
which causes your lungs to fill with fluid, and then
you pass away. It wouldn't necessarily immobilize you to the
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point that you couldn't get up and get yourself out
of an unsafe situation unless you've gone into a coma.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
So those individuals, how would they sit there and on
the porch and a lounge chair and lay in the
backyard if they could move? I mean, I'm certainly not
a medical doctor, but certainly they would get up off
the porch or get off the ground and come inside.
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According to the defendant, the door was unlocked. I submit
they couldn't.
Speaker 14 (41:11):
Well, that's if they're so conscious, if they've gotten enough
fentyl in and it's caused them to go into basically
a coma, they can't move at that point, and then
they will either more likely than not die from the
fentanyl prior to dying from freezing to death, because there
are autopsy findings you'll find that'll show that they died
from hypoth rmia or freezing to death, which I haven't
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seen any reports of that being found.
Speaker 1 (41:36):
Alexis ter Roschut.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
We keep referring to them as the Kansas City Chiefs fans,
and they were so much more than that. Tell me
about their families.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
Well, Clayton mcginney was engaged.
Speaker 6 (41:46):
He was engaged to a woman in April, Mahoney, and
they were very happy together. They were very you know,
he worked in construction, small business construction, and he was
going through a really rough time. There weren't a lot
of jobs, but they were still together at the time,
and she in fact started a GoFundMe to sell everybody
like he was so wonderful, and he was somebody that
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was her whole life, and the two of them had
all these future plans together and then it was abruptly
cut short. And in fact, she was the one that
found that April was trying, trying trying to reach him, Clayton,
calling him over and over again. She's the one that
showed up at Jordan Willis's house. She broke through the
basement window, she got out, she found Clayton, and then
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the other two guys did.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
Overnight we learned two arrested in the horrific deaths of
three Kansas City Chiefs fans watching a football game with
their so called best friend now behind bars. Arrested the
so called best friend, Jordan Willis, and a guy named
Ivory J.
Speaker 1 (42:51):
Carson aka Blade.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
Okay, straight back out to Jonathan Price, this is Ricky's brother.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
Tell me your thoughts.
Speaker 4 (43:03):
Well, I mean, summing everything up, you know, I just
you know, he was my brother. I cherished him a lot,
and his his three daughters, you know, and you know,
so a couple of them are a little bit young
to fully understand. It's a it's very difficult to think
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about what they are going through and the answers that
they've been neglected for all this time, and uh, it's
it's just, you know, very makes us very distraught.
Speaker 2 (43:38):
Jonathan Price, you want to set the record straight on
some certain issues.
Speaker 4 (43:43):
What well, one of the things that we've been told
since the beginning which did not make sense is the
ruling out of foul play, and you know, the the
amount of information that we've gotten since then, you know,
since January now, and it's it's been very disappointing. I'm glad.
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I understand that it takes time, and you know, I'm
glad that we are finally getting some answers, but there's
there's still a lot out there that we don't fully understand.
And just three or four months ago, Jordan's lawyer was
saying that he thinks that charges will come, but not
to Jordan, and that's from talking to some prosecutor. So
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that part doesn't make sense to me either. And you know,
I'm just the more I get back into this, you know,
the more pain that's coming back, just like there was
back then, and the more questions that are arising from
all of this.
Speaker 2 (44:43):
Two defendants left standing in the case of three Kansas
City chiefs dead in the backyard.
Speaker 1 (44:50):
The two were just feet apart in court, but never.
Speaker 2 (44:52):
Even looked at each other, much less uttered a word
to each other. And that hearing went for over three hours.
That's a long long time to avoid each other's gaze.
What does that tell me They're gonna blame each other.
A lot of finger pointing is gonna go down in
this courtroom when trial occurs. We wait as justice unfolds.
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Nancy Grace signing off, goodbye friend.
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Three friends, three Kansas City Chiefs fans, dead in the
backyard and on the porch of another friend.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
To other Chiefs fans have a cold blooded.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Reaction when they meet face to face in court over
the murder of their friends. I'm Nancy Grace. This is
Crime Stories. I want to thank you for being with us.
Two former friends are accused of killing three Kansas City
Chiefs fans, and they just sat in the last days,
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shoulder to shoulder in a Missouri courtroom, staring coldly, straight ahead,
stone face and never stating a single word to each other.
It was Jordan Willis and Ivory Carson, less than five
feet apart in the Platte County courtroom before Judge Abe
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Quint Schaeffer. Willis was wearing a blue buttoned down and slacks.
He's free on one hundred thousand dollars bond. Carson steel
jailed hobbled in wearing an orange jumpsuit and ankle shackles.
Each one faces three counts of second degree felony murder
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and distribution of drugs and the deaths of their friends,
Ricky Johnson, David Harrington and Clayton mcgeiney.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Their frozen bodies.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Were found outside Jordan Willis's home on a cold January ninth.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
All of them had gathered for.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
What was supposed to be a fun Sunday watch party
watching the Chiefs, and despite a friendship amongst all of
them group text being fans of the Chiefs regular get togethers,
these do didn't even look at each other in court.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
And I think I know why.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Two arrested over the deaths of three Kansas City Chiefs
fans who apparently froze to death and their scientist's friend
backyard and on his porch, and he didn't.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Notice a thing for two days.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
A guy is dead, your friend is dead in a
lounge chair on your porch, and you go two days
ignoring repeated calls, text messages, social media requests from family
and friends.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
You don't see any of that. You show up at
the front.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Door and you're underwear with a glass of wine and go, hahua, listen.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Jordan Willis and Ivory Carson have been charged with distribution
of a controlled substance and three counts of involuntary manslaughter.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
That from our friends at k NBC nine News joining
me in All Star Panel but first I want to
go to a very special guest joining us. It's Jonathan Price,
the brother of one of those three victims, Ricky Johnson.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Jonathan, thank you for being.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
With us, Thank you for having me Nancy.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Jonathan, I wonder sometimes if this day would ever come.
You said from the get go, something is wrong, something
is horribly wrong. It didn't happen this way, and you
were right, yeah, it just from the.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Very beginning, it didn't make sense. And it still doesn't
make sense that they were able to rule out foul
play from day one, and then you know, with these charges.
I mean, I don't know the legal definition of foul play,
but it definitely seems like they now believe that there
was foul play. So just keeping us in the dark
for this long, it's very troubling, but there is still
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a sense of relief among all of us that this
is hopefully coming to a conclusion.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
You guys have been dragged through hell and back. And
during the Super Bowl when of the Chiefs were playing,
I thought about you and your family, and I wondered
what's going.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Through their minds tonight as.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Everybody's celebrating and partying, and you still did not have
answers in your brother's death.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
Yeah, I mean, you know, I think about Ricky daily,
and you know, even more so when the Chiefs are
playing or KU's playing. You know, there's you know, he
cared much about his family and his sports, and we
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shared that our entire lives and uh, you know those
those memories will always live on and uh, you know,
like I said before, it's there. There is a sense
of relief that, you know, something that's coming from all
of this.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Well, I was wondering, Jonathan, when everybody was celebrating and
there was the big lead up to the Chiefs playing
in the Super Bowl and everybody's what's Taylor Swift gonna wear?
And are they going to get engaged? Is she pregnant?
Blah blah blah blah blah. Were you thinking what about
my brother? What about my brother? Because I was thinking
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that the whole way through the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
Absolutely, you know, every day we've been saying this, and
you know, it kind of went a radio asilent for
a very long time. And then you know, we were
still hearing that there was no foul play. You know,
there's there's just too much still out there, and it's
it's all about what's going to come out of trial.
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But you know there's still lots of questions.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Yeah, you're right, Jonathan, there is absolutely gonna to be
a trial.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
You guys kept in the.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Dark for so long, which must have been agonizing, agonizing
as you wanted so badly for your brother to get justice,
and to think that for all that time, he sat
in his house, throwing back the booze, hanging around in
his underwear. And this guy is no idiot. He's a scientist,
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for Pete's sake. Ignoring the dead body in allounced chair
on the porch, ignoring his friend's cars parked directly in
front of his house. How can you ignore that? How
can you not hear the phone for two days, not
notice that you are being barraged in social media and
texts and emails, acting like nothing happened, and then to
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pack up and leave town.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Well, this is how the whole thing started.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
January seventh, there is a football day for the Kansas
City Chiefs as they will be playing the Los Angeles Chargers.
So thirty eight year old Jordan Willis it's a couple
of buddies to come to his house and watch the game.
David Harrington, Ricky Johnson, and Clayton mcghiney arrive at Willis's
house just in time for the three twenty five kickoff.
They enjoy the games. The Chiefs beat the Chargers thirteen
to twelve, and Willis makes plans for them to get
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tickets to the next home game.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
So everything's fine. They're all there watching the game together.
Then what happens after the game? Jordan Willis waves the
guys off and crashes on the couch.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
On Monday, January eighth, Jordan Willis claims he did not
leave his home at all. He would normally have to
take his dogs Sadie and Daisy outside to do their business,
but they're all staying at his dad's place.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Okay, wait a minute.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
He had described his dogs as the quote loves of
his life. How did they end up somewhere else? Okay,
that's just a tangential question. But right there, something is
way wrong.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Joining me.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Crime Stories investigative reporter Dave Matt Right there.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Dave, Jordan Willison, this is on a sun the scientist.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
He waves away the friends and claims he crashes on
the sofa for.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
What the next two or three days?
Speaker 2 (08:09):
I mean, if you take it from Sunday until finally
the police were at the front door after the girlfriend
breaks in the window to find the dead body and
starts screaming.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
I mean, that's his story day, seriously.
Speaker 5 (08:24):
And he's sticking to it, Nancy. He has always claimed
that he crashed out, doesn't know what the guys did.
He was sound asleep for the next seventy two hours,
and he missed all the messages. He didn't get any
pet he didn't get any text messages, phone calls because
that phone was ringing off the hook. All those guys,
family and friends were reaching out to him because they
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were always in contact. But Jordan Willis claims he slept
through the entire thing for three days and he only
got up when they basically broke into his house and
tell him there were dead guys on the backyard.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Jonathan Price is with me. This is Ricky Johnson's brother
who passed away. You know, when I think about what
he went through, it was so cold out there, do
you let yourself. I mean, I try not to think
about what my fiance went through when he was murdered.
He was shot five times in the face, the neck,
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the head, and I try not to think about it,
because it will mess me up so badly, and I
have children to raise. Do you ever let yourself think
about what Ricky went through while their friend was inside
in his underwear passed out.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
Yeah, I think about that all the time, you know,
especially with you know, these these three gentlemen, you know,
being inseparable for a very very long time, and for
all three of them to happen at the exact same time,
and what some of them were going through in the
final moments of seeing maybe one of their friends go
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down first. So many questions still on how that would
have happened.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
And I pray that all the facts, not just some
of the facts, but that all the facts will come
out and we will know.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Is no idiot?
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Three days Sunday Monday Tuesy, and I never knew my friend.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
My friend was dead.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
On the front on the back porch, and my other
friends were dead lying in my yard.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
How can he? How can he say that? Oh? Yeah,
and all the phone.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Calls and all the texts and all the emails and
all the social media.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
He said he was wearing noise canceling headphones for three days.
Speaker 6 (10:37):
Really, he says he was wearing noise canceling earphones, and
he was in his house. He didn't notice the car
in front, and he didn't notice three of his friends.
He wasn't texting them the day after. Hey, guys, let's
go get tickets for the next game because the Chiefs
had won. Completely acted like he was completely shut off
from the whole world and noise canceling headphones. Sure, maybe right,
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You maybe can't hear a little in the next room,
but you're going to hear people beating on your door
and you're going to see your phone flowing up for
two days.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
So let me understand something, Dave Mac.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
How many days passed before the girlfriend the fiance has
to come and literally break in?
Speaker 1 (11:17):
When did that happen? Just give me a number.
Speaker 7 (11:19):
Two days?
Speaker 1 (11:20):
All right?
Speaker 5 (11:20):
Two days?
Speaker 1 (11:21):
What day was on the game was Tuesday?
Speaker 5 (11:25):
Games on Saturday, on Sunday the seventh, and Tuesday the
ninth is the day police are at the door.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Okay, you know what.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
They didn't teach me math in law school. But seven
eight nine, that's three days. Seven is Sunday, the day
of the game, which is in the early afternoon, all night,
all day Monday until finally Tuesday, when the fiance is
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beside herself. She can't find her fiance and goes looking
for him.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Listen.
Speaker 8 (12:00):
On January eight, friends and family are concerned. They were
headed to Jordan willis house to watch the game, but
now none of the guys, including Jordan Willis, are replying
to messages on social media or by phone.
Speaker 9 (12:14):
On Tuesday, January ninth, nine fifty one pm, Clayton McKinney's
fiance shows up at the house. She sees the cars
in the driveway, and since nobody is answering the phone
or replying to messages, she breaks into the home and
screams Willis's name. She walks through the house. Then she
looks on the back porch and sees a body.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Oh my stars, okay, Jonathan Price is joining me.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
This is Ricky's brother, beloved brother.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
I might ad they grew up together and they would
argue about who's going to watch Power Rangers and.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Who's gonna watch ESPN.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Very very loving relationship, their whole lives.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
In my mind, that's three days.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
You got the Chiefs game early afternoon Sunday, there together
in Sunday night all day Monday, Monday night, and then
Tuesday nine fifty one. That's nearly ten o'clock at night,
Clayton's fiance comes hysterical trying to find him, has to
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break in and seize a dead body. Is my timing correct, Jonathan?
Speaker 4 (13:27):
I mean it appears to be correct. You know, I'm
not very good at math either, but you know, there's
there's a question in my mind that there's no possible
way you can sleep that long and just not know
what's going on.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
I agree, Jonathan, no way.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
What was he doing in the joining me is a
veteran defense attorney who has handled a number of high
profile cases. Derek Smith is joining me out of Ohio.
He's at d W Smithlegal dot com. Derek, really the
defense I slept through the whole thing. I mean, for
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those of you who just joining us, finally movement a
bombshell arrest of two people in connection with the deaths
of three Kansas City chiefs fans who were frozen to
death and their buddy, the scientist backyard Derek Smith.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Can he really look at.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
A jury and say, I slept for three days with
noise canceling headsets on, I knew nothing.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Yes and no.
Speaker 10 (14:33):
This is a terrible situation. Is best friends some of
his frenzies with this whole entire life. Like they said,
they were very close utter uttershock and disbelief and just
manic depression will put somebody down. Looking out your window
and seeing your friends in the condition they were in.
That's enough right there to send a person into deep shock,
disbelief and just pass right back out.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Does not want to be that's a good one.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
So he saw the bodies and then passed back out,
you know to doctor Hidie Green joining me, clinical psychologist,
trauma specialist, author of The Path to Self Love and
World Domination, Doctor Heidie Green dot com, Doctor Heidi. So
now we're getting a spin on that and no telling
what it's going to morph into by the time this
goes to trial. So Jonathan Price braced yourself. So Derek
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Smith is spinning it out, you know, like Rumpel Stileskin
would take that nasty hay out of the barn and
spin it into gold. He is now hypothesizing that the defendant,
one of the two arrested in the desks of three
people that were left to freeze out.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
In the yard one on his porch, is that he.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Came to from his deep sleep. You know, I'll throw
in sleeping beauty. There he came to saw the dead
body of his friend and then passed out. Doctor Heidie Green,
psychologically speaking, that seems very unlikely to me.
Speaker 7 (15:55):
So it is very unlikely that he fell unconscious for
seventy two hours as a result of a significant trauma.
And we can say if your friends died accidentally, if
that's what we're going with, and you saw them in
your home, it's obviously possible that you would have a
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significant trauma response, and that trauma response could include a
freeze response. I could see somebody maybe being in their
house terrified to answer the throne, terrified to go and
look at the bodies, wanting to essentially just pretend like
nothing's going on. But to actually be unconscious for seventy
two hours, that seems far less likely as a trauma report.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Crime Stores with Nancy Grace, it was a bone chilling
January nine, mcgheiney's fiance, April Mahoney, actually broke into Willis's
home after she had called over and over and over
frantically trying to find her love, who she had not
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heard from for two days, and it was there she
found the bodies of three men in all frozen solid,
all still dressed in their Kansas City Chiefs gear, slumped
in the backyard, and now there remained two, Jordan Willis
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and Ivory Carson. The two sat lesson five feet apart
in court as a judge ruled their case. We'll go
to trial. What happened that Sunday afternoon.
Speaker 8 (17:42):
Clayton mcguinea's fiance Colls Police officers arrived to find Willis
in his underwear with an empty glass of wine in hand.
According to the victims' families, the other two bodies were
then found in the backyard. Jordan Willis tells police he
has no idea what happened. John Piserno, and attorney representing Willis,
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said his client had no idea his friends were dead
until police knocked on his door. Tayley Lettier wrote, my
husband banged on his door for twenty minutes. My friend
banged on his door and then busted a window and
yelled and announced her presence while she's inside and steal
nothing from him. Then the cops come ten minutes later,
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and he comes out nonchalant in his boxers with an
empty wine glass in hand. Nothing is adding up. Dave
clay and Ricky need and deserve justice.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Yes they do. And Jonathan Price is with me. This
is Ricky's brother, Jonathan. Your brother is always described as
a Kansas City Chief fan. That's really not doing him justice.
He was so much more. Tell me, well, Ricky was
very humble.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
He loved everybody he ever interacted with. He always saw
the good and people. He helped out anybody in need anytime,
no matter if at one time they were seen as
you know, enemies or or you know, just not friends
in general. But he was just such a kind person,
loving father, brother, son, cousin. You know, he he was
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truly cherished by our entire family.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Tell me about your family, Well, I mean.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
We kind of we grew up, you know, separated at
some points, but we always came together for family events.
Speaker 11 (19:34):
You know.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
We were always there at Christmas times, holding our own
different Christmases to make sure that all of our schedules
matched up to where we can all see each other.
And when I was in the military, anytime I came
home there Ricky and my other brother Russie, they always
made it a point, and my sister Lisa, they always
all made it a point to come home all to
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be together every time. So we you know, we chaished
each other. And there's very fond memories of uh of
Ricky growing up and everything he was to all of us.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
When you say the memories you had growing up? What memories?
Speaker 4 (20:12):
Well, my love for football, I love for all sports
came from Ricky. You know, seeing my my two oldest brothers,
you know, throwing the football farther than I could imagine
when I was a you know, small child. I just
I looked up to them. You know, we we went
to the very first game that Patrion Mahomes was playing
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in the preseason, and uh we you know, he met
my entire family, and you know, even though we were
states away, you know, we always we always talked about
the sports of Kansas City and you know, everything that
we were accomplishing. Finally, after so many years of being
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you know, an up and down team. You know, we
we shared a lot of memories together, and uh, I
just I love them.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
We are learning more about the deaths of the so
called Three Chiefs Fans.
Speaker 12 (21:08):
As news starts to spread of the three friends freezing
to death in the backyard while their friend is asleep inside.
The families of the victims begin to speak out and
ask questions. The biggest question for Jordan Willis is what
happened next? Was why didn't you answer calls, text messages
and social media messages from family and friends of the
three men.
Speaker 5 (21:28):
The Daily Mail reports. Willis insists he spent the next
two days in his home not thinking anything of the
fact that his friend's cars were still outside, and only
learned they died when the fiance of one of the
men broke into the house on January ninth in the
hopes of finding him.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Jonathan Price, Where were the victims cars part in relation
to the friends home?
Speaker 4 (21:51):
I guess if you're based on what I've heard, if
you look out the front door, they were just off
to the right, And I guess there was potentially out
of the three cars, because I think someone might have carpooled.
But either way, my brother drove in that F one fifty,
so it was, you know, se my large truck right
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there in the front. There's no way to miss it.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
So Barry Hudgeson joining me, former l e now chief
investigator for Barry and Associates Investigative Services in Kansas and Missouri.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Barry, let me understand, So this.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Guy, the so called friend could find a wine glass
and fill it up with wine, and find his noise
canceling headphones. He could find those, he could see those,
but he couldn't see his dead friend on the porch
and in the yard, or their vehicles part in front
of his house.
Speaker 13 (22:43):
Man see this story, you know, his his excuses for
how everything happened.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
It just makes no sense at all.
Speaker 13 (22:50):
You know, I've been thinking about this and one of
the things that I thought about. You know, the guy
came to the door in his underwear and he said
that he had been asleep for seventy two hours. We
knew that he'd been drinking a lot, apparently, so if
he slept for solid three hours, don't you think his
body would have evacuated while he was asleep for three
solid days. If he never got up, he would have
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wet hisself. Did he come to the door with soiled
underwear or did he look like he urinated on his sef?
You know, when you arrest a drunk on the street
most of the time and they're awake, theype all over
their self. This guy didn't look like he urinated on
his stef because if he didn't, that kind of shoots
that story right in behind the end if he.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Asked me, Yeah, I mean he had to get up
and go to the bathroom.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Doctor Kendall Crown's joining me, and he's here for other reasons,
but since we're on this topic, Doctor Kendall Crown's with me.
Chief Medical Examiner Terrant County. That's fort Worth never Alike,
a business esteemed lecturer at Burnett's School of Medicine TCU
and launching a new PODCASTA Dead on Arrival March seven.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Doctor Crown's is that true what Barry just told us?
Speaker 2 (23:58):
I mean, how could he go seventy two hours drinking
let me add that in and not getting up and
finding his way to the bathroom.
Speaker 14 (24:05):
Oh, I agree with that. There's no way you could
sleep for three days after consuming them with chilcohol and
also eating that. Your body wouldn't urinate on itself for defecates.
So it's impossible to believe that he spent that entire
time asleep and not getting up and go at least
going to the bathroom.
Speaker 9 (24:24):
Jordan Willis's attorney, John Piserno, refuses to answer questions about
whether the men were using drugs. Paserno says there was
a fifth man in the home on the night of
January seventh. Willis says the man is a buddy who
left earlier than the other three men.
Speaker 5 (24:37):
As the investigation heated up, Jordan Willis moved out of
the home and checked into rehab. A forensic data extraction
found text messages on Harrington's phone between Willis, mcgheini, Johnson,
and others that proved Carson was the person who supplied
the group with cocaine, DNA evidence mash Willis identifying him
as a major contributor, and DNA evidence from the second bag.
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Matt Carson, confirming his role as the drugs of liar.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Packs up and goes to rehab.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
So to Jonathan Price, when did you learn that the
so called best friend of your brother packs up, clears
out the house, takes his dog, and goes to rehab.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
I mean, the only time that we found out was
whenever he was reported in the news, which is kind
of the unfortunate part of all this. But if you
have the mental capacity to know you have a problem
after the fact and check yourself into rehab, then you
know you know more about what happened that night. And
I don't know if you shared that or not with
the authorities. But the fact that he was not detained,
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you know, after that night or the past fourteen months,
doesn't really make any sense to me.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Yeah, you know too, Derek Smith. Why is that the
go to with your clients and all the stars. It's
only after they're busted for something that they suddenly realize
they have a problem and they hide out in rehabit.
Speaker 10 (26:02):
Well, unfortunately, it takes an event like that to really
change lifestyle or change a mindset or even in these
cases a serious edition.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
I mean, it's akin to.
Speaker 10 (26:13):
Being in a certain way of life, certain way of
doing things. Everything's fine as long as everything's fine, and
then something tragic or something terrible, or the law gets
involved and you have to make a drastic change.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
And that's unfortunately just how it is. Sometimes.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Joining me right now is a special guest just joining us,
Eric Zand is with us. It is the Platte County
prosecutor who was working on the case. And I know
Eric number one, thank you for being with us. But
I know what you can say is limited, having been
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a prosecutor for many years myself, but I want to
thank you for being with us. The family questioned this
from the get go, and I know the prosecutors get
the case once LA law enforcement finished their investigation. But
I'm sure you know, having dealt with so many crime victims,
how agonizing this has been for the family to be
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waiving the banner. This isn't right, This isn't normal. This
guy's not innocent. He won't say a word to us
about what happened. This is the alleged best friend. They've
been waiting all this time. Now, Eric, don't get me wrong,
I'm glad we finally have bombshell arrests in the deaths
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of the three Kansas City chiefs.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Fans, but what took so long? Please explain it?
Speaker 11 (27:35):
Yeah, You're absolutely right, And Nancy, this was a long
time coming. And our hearts absolutely go out to these
family members. I met with them shortly after these deaths,
and it's just really tragic. It's honestly, it's another reminder
of the dangers of street drugs, and these cases are
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tough to put together. Cracking down who's responsible providing these
drugs is no easy task. But I can't tell you
how proud I am Nancy of the Kansas City Police
Department and prosecutors in my office who from day one
said that they weren't going to rest until we exhausted
every possible resource to bring the people we believe responsible
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for these crimes to justice, and yesterday was the first
step in that. As you know, these men are presumed
innocent and lesson until proven guilty. But we've charged them
what we think happened, which was providing cocaine and fentanyl
and causing the deaths of these three men.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
As a matter of fact, this is what Platte County
Prosecutor Eric Zand had to say.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
A doctor with Forensic Medical of Kansas found that mister mcgheini,
mister Harrington, and mister Johnson all died of fentanyl and
cocaine combined toxicity.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Now from our forensic KMBC nine News.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
So Eric assertion, what you're going to prove, I think
in trial is that the casual use of a little cocaine,
although family says that at least one of the victims
had never used cocaine before, but the casual use of
cocaine turned deadly because it was cut with fentanyl.
Speaker 11 (29:20):
Yeah, in this case, what we alleged is that there
were two baggies found at the scene. One of those
baggies contained cocaine. The other baggie we alleged contained fentanyl.
The me found that it was a combination of those
two drugs that caused these men's deaths. And so we've
charged both of the men, one of them who we
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believe provided the cocaine, the other who we alleged sold
the fentanyl that caused these deaths. And we allege, because
we charged with them with manslaughter, that they recklessly caused
the deaths of these three men.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
As a matter of fact, listen to what Jonathan Price
had to say.
Speaker 15 (30:02):
From the very beginning. He said that before the fifth
person came out, he said that Jordan was there sporadically
throughout the day and then whenever. And then he also
did not mention in a fifth person. But once the
fifth person came out, then he changed it to saying
that there was a fifth person and that he was
asleep the entire time. So those were two very specific
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details that were specific in the opening statement but then
changed over time.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
So Alexis Tereschuk, joining US Crime Stories investigative reporter the
best friend now charged in a homicide case, changed his story.
He never mentioned anybody else was there beside him and
his three buddies all dead, frozen dead in the backyard,
and he goes three days and doesn't notice they're on
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his back porch. There's a mystery guy, a fifth person.
Act says he changed his story. Why because the fifth
person was a person that provided the drugs.
Speaker 6 (31:02):
According to police, this is somebody who they have all
known for quite a while that Jordan has known, and
he was contacted and this man brought the drugs.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
This so there's cocaine.
Speaker 6 (31:14):
Jordan Willis's DNA is on the cocaine, Ivory Carson's DNA
is on the bag of fentanyl, and that is the
toxic combination that killed these men. So he was he
had come over and brought them the cocaine. And the
way that the police found this out wasn't through Jordan Willis.
He never mentioned any of these details. But David Harrington's
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phone is the one phone that they were able to
extract evidence from, and they saw on there there were
group chats about buying the cocaine. Willis was the one
that would always provide it for them. These other guys
didn't have enough cocaines expensive it's not a cheap drug.
And then you topped that off of the Fennyl and
he was the one that did it. So there were
group chat tech messages that showed that these were having out.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
The drugs to air.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Exanne joining me right now, Platts County prosecutor who is
charged with last swing all this evidence and presenting it
to a jury, did he really think we wouldn't find
out about the fifth guy, the mystery man, and all
of his statements at the get go that was never mentioned.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
Now we know why he was the dope.
Speaker 11 (32:20):
Dealer well, and Nancy I can't. I can't comment on
exactly what either of these defendants thought or said, but
what I can tell you is that we allege that
mister Willis provided cocaine and mister Carson sold Entinel to
these men, and we alleged that resulted in the deaths
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of these three great people who were boyfriend's husbands, fathers,
sons of people in Kansas City. It's truly tragic. And
here's what folks have to understand. If you deal drugs
and somebody dies as a result, we will do everything
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we can to make sure that you're held accountable for
the deaths of those people. That's exactly what we're trying
to do in this case.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
The bodies of David Harrington, Clayton mcgheaney, and Ricky Johnson
all found in the backyard of their friend Jordan Willis's
home Kansas City last January, frozen dead. The temperature that
night was just eighteen degrees fear and height. One of
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the victims seated upright in a patio chair, the others
lying sprawled nearby, ice crusted on their faces. Investigators now
calling it quote foul play by stealth and to psychology
reports confirm all three died of cocaine laced with fentanel.
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Police even find two plastic baggies in the home, one
containing cocaine with Willis's DNA and another with fentanyl and
Carson's DNA. Video was shown in court Willis sitting in
the back of a police cart telling his version of
the night before. He went on to insist he had
no idea his friends died just steps away from him.
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What more do we know?
Speaker 15 (34:35):
You look at any of their facebooks, any picture that's
posted that it's not of their family, it's of these men.
And if just one of them, even two of them,
passed out at the same time, which is already impossible.
You know, the other man would have absolutely brought them
inside and called for help something. So that's just insane.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
This is what Platt County Prosecutor Eric Xander tells us.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
He saw a large play of cocaine allegedly supplied by
mister Willis that everyone was using.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
According to prosecutors, the defendant provided it, the friend, the friend,
the scientists, the HIV researcher Jordan Willis, H thirty nine.
The best friend supplied a plate of coke, possibly laced
with fentanyl to his friends. You were just hearing from
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our friends at KMBC nine US to doctor Kendall Crown's
joining us, Doctor Kendll crowns, I want to understand how
the use of these drugs, potentially cocaine cut with fentanyl.
Don't know if they knew it was cut with fentanyl,
what that would look like. I mean, it's hard for
me to understand. Although I've heard about it, I've prosecuted,
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I've seen it at crime scenes where you have a
party and there's a plate of cocaine out. I mean,
I would think there'd be sandwiches and chicken wings right, salery, carrots,
ranch dip. There's a plate of cocaine and everybody's doing it.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
You know how many times have you heard that, mom?
Everybody's doing it?
Speaker 2 (36:12):
How are people supposed to know that cocaine can be
laced with dentanyl and what fentanyl can do with you?
Even a touch a fentanyl can kill you. So what
would fentanyl look like? Can it be in a powder form?
Speaker 14 (36:30):
Yes, it can. Actually it'll be kind of in a wipe.
It can be in a white pottery form. It can
be in the form of a fake percocet, which is
a blue pill that has an M thirty label on it.
It can be a patch. It can even be on
a lazengers type sucker is one of the ways it
is distributed. But anyway, cocaine, if it's cut with something fentanyl,
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can be very deadly.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
And you don't know.
Speaker 14 (36:54):
How much fentanyl has been put in there, how much
fentanyl you're actually getting with the amount of cocaine that's
been cut with it. So that's why you could have
a group of people sitting together and three of them
die and two of them live because one got more
fentanyl than the other. Because it's really not regulated like
a drug through the FDA. It's just widely all over
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the place. So that's why the street drugs are very
dangerous as you never know what you're getting. And one thing,
we've had cocaine cut with a dog dee wormer as well,
so it's incredibly dangerous.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
Under Kendel crowns, I have investigated cases, for instance, an
infant at daycare. Little did the family know that the
daycare provider was storing fentanyl there also dealing like I
think the husband or the boyfriend was dealing, and they
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moved the fentanyl from one place to the next inside
the daycare, and that movement released particles of fentanyl and
the infant in hailed it or touched it.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
It killed the baby.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
So if you've got a plate of cocaine lace with
any finnel at all, there's your OD right there. What
started off, as I guess in good time is in death.
I mean you can die from even inhaling particles or
touching particles of finfandol.
Speaker 14 (38:20):
Yes, fentanyl is incredibly dangerous and even its friend or
another derivative of it, car fentanyl, is even more dangerous.
It's come down to the fact that law enforcement and
paramedics will now carry in a lock zone, which is
a way to counteract the effects of the opioid in
their rigs or in their cars to if they get
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exposed to it and begin having symptoms, they can take
it and try and save themselves. So fentanyl is incredibly dangerous.
It's not a drug you really should mess with, you know.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
I'm just thinking about these victims and how they ended
up frozen in plain view of their so called Jordan Willis.
You know, I'm trying to think about their families. Dave
mac tell me about the victims' families. I know Jonathan
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is here speaking on behalf of his brother Ricky, who
died that day, whose body sat out there freezing for
so long.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
What about the other victims, you know?
Speaker 5 (39:21):
Nancy? Mister Harrington's mom, Theresa, claimed she's been kept out
of the loop since the bodies were found. She said
that they wouldn't tell me anything. Now she is saying
that the statements made it easy to think that they
had already made up their minds and there wouldn't be
any further investigation. And she's really pushing back on this.
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She said the arrest didn't really clear up any speculation
about the dead, saying quote, I still don't know anything
about how my son died or his last moments. That's
pretty upsetting when you look at this over a year
down the road, that she doesn't know any more than
you and I might know.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
Well, Kendall Crown's what was some one go through?
Speaker 2 (40:01):
If they literally sat outside and an accidental ventyl stupor
and froze dead, that would be horrible, But they couldn't
get up and move.
Speaker 14 (40:15):
So basically, fentyl makes your respiratory drive decrease and makes
your brain not think it needs enough oxygen, and so
you slowly kind of drift off into a coma that
eventually your brain, not getting enough oxygen, begins to die,
which causes your lungs to fill with fluid, and then
you pass away. It wouldn't necessarily immobilize you to the
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point that you couldn't get up and get yourself out
of an unsafe situation unless you've gone into a coma.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
So those individuals, how would they sit there and on
the porch and a lounge chair and lay in the
backyard if they could move? I mean, I'm certainly not
a medical doctor, but certainly they would get up off
the porch or get off the ground and come inside.
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According to the defendant, the door was unlocked. I submit
they couldn't.
Speaker 14 (41:11):
Well, that's if they're so conscious, if they've gotten enough
fentyl in and it's caused them to go into basically
a coma, they can't move at that point, and then
they will either more likely than not die from the
fentanyl prior to dying from freezing to death, because there
are autopsy findings you'll find that'll show that they died
from hypoth rmia or freezing to death, which I haven't
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seen any reports of that being found.
Speaker 1 (41:36):
Alexis ter Roschut.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
We keep referring to them as the Kansas City Chiefs fans,
and they were so much more than that. Tell me
about their families.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
Well, Clayton mcginney was engaged.
Speaker 6 (41:46):
He was engaged to a woman in April, Mahoney, and
they were very happy together. They were very you know,
he worked in construction, small business construction, and he was
going through a really rough time. There weren't a lot
of jobs, but they were still together at the time,
and she in fact started a GoFundMe to sell everybody
like he was so wonderful, and he was somebody that
(42:08):
was her whole life, and the two of them had
all these future plans together and then it was abruptly
cut short. And in fact, she was the one that
found that April was trying, trying trying to reach him, Clayton,
calling him over and over again. She's the one that
showed up at Jordan Willis's house. She broke through the
basement window, she got out, she found Clayton, and then
(42:29):
the other two guys did.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
Overnight we learned two arrested in the horrific deaths of
three Kansas City Chiefs fans watching a football game with
their so called best friend now behind bars. Arrested the
so called best friend, Jordan Willis, and a guy named
Ivory J.
Speaker 1 (42:51):
Carson aka Blade.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
Okay, straight back out to Jonathan Price, this is Ricky's brother.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
Tell me your thoughts.
Speaker 4 (43:03):
Well, I mean, summing everything up, you know, I just
you know, he was my brother. I cherished him a lot,
and his his three daughters, you know, and you know,
so a couple of them are a little bit young
to fully understand. It's a it's very difficult to think
(43:25):
about what they are going through and the answers that
they've been neglected for all this time, and uh, it's
it's just, you know, very makes us very distraught.
Speaker 2 (43:38):
Jonathan Price, you want to set the record straight on
some certain issues.
Speaker 4 (43:43):
What well, one of the things that we've been told
since the beginning which did not make sense is the
ruling out of foul play, and you know, the the
amount of information that we've gotten since then, you know,
since January now, and it's it's been very disappointing. I'm glad.
(44:05):
I understand that it takes time, and you know, I'm
glad that we are finally getting some answers, but there's
there's still a lot out there that we don't fully understand.
And just three or four months ago, Jordan's lawyer was
saying that he thinks that charges will come, but not
to Jordan, and that's from talking to some prosecutor. So
(44:29):
that part doesn't make sense to me either. And you know,
I'm just the more I get back into this, you know,
the more pain that's coming back, just like there was
back then, and the more questions that are arising from
all of this.
Speaker 2 (44:43):
Two defendants left standing in the case of three Kansas
City chiefs dead in the backyard.
Speaker 1 (44:50):
The two were just feet apart in court, but never.
Speaker 2 (44:52):
Even looked at each other, much less uttered a word
to each other. And that hearing went for over three hours.
That's a long long time to avoid each other's gaze.
What does that tell me They're gonna blame each other.
A lot of finger pointing is gonna go down in
this courtroom when trial occurs. We wait as justice unfolds.
(45:13):
Nancy Grace signing off, goodbye friend.
Host
Nancy Grace
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