June 14, 2025 • 42 mins
Eight unsealed warrants are giving new insights into the investigation of Sade Robinson’s murder. Newly released surveillance images show Sade meeting Anderson at the Twisted Fisherman for their date. The warrants also reveal police are reviewing employment records and surveillance from Victor’s nightclub. Anderson reportedly worked at Victor’s, a club that one of Sade’s coworkers says they frequented. Investigators are trying to determine how Sade met Maxwell Anderson.
Also, a friend of Anderson’s is now working with law enforcement as a confidential informant. The CI tells investigators in early March, Anderson spoke of a plan to lure Sade Robinson to his home, then force her into the basement at gunpoint, where he would shoot her, then dismember her body and scatter the remains. The CI says Anderson showed him the basement, where Anderson had taped plastic paint protectors to the walls and floor. The CI says there were three saws in the prepped basement.
Joining Nancy Grace today:
- Sheena Scarbrough - Sade’s Mom
- Dr. Bethany Marshall - Psychoanalyst, Author, "Deal Breaker," also featured in hit show: "Paris in Love" on Peacock, https://www.drbethanymarshall.com/, Instagram & TikTok: drbethanymarshall, Twitter:@DrBethanyLive
- Brian Fitzgibbons - Director of Operations for USPA Nationwide Security, Leads a team of investigators specializing in locating missing persons, uspasecurity.com, Instagram: @uspa_nationwide_security, fmr. Marine and Iraq war veteran
- Dr. Kendall Crowns - Chief Medical Examiner Tarrant County, Lecturer: Burnett School of Medicine at TCU (Texas Christian University)
- Aaron Maybin - Anchor/Reporter, Fox 6, Milwaukee (WITI) website: https://www.fox6now.com/ Instagram is @a.maybin FB AaronMaybinTV/
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace bombshell in the courtroom. A
man just found guilty of murdering and dismembering a beautiful
teen girl saw Dave Robinson after their first date in Milwaukee.
I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. I want to
(00:22):
thank you for being with us. A Milwaukee man just
found guilty of murdering and dismembering a teen girl college
student the night of their first date. Maxwell Anderson charged
with first degree intentional homicide. Grew up with a silver
spoon in his mouth. Now guilty of intentional homicide, dismembering
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a corpse, arson high, and hiding a corpse in connection
with the death of this incredibly beautiful young girl. The
jury convicts on all four counts we learned during the trial.
Investigators believe Anderson murdered Sowday on their very first date,
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dismembered her, and spread her remains all around Milwaukee County.
Saday last seen alive in Anderson's home. What more do
we know about the facts.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Shade's right leg, left foot, torso, and one of her
arms were found scattered around Milwaukee more than a month
after her death. A second arm washed up on a
Wakegan Illinois Beach. It has now been confirmed as Shade's
through DNA testing. Shade's head and right leg are still missing,
preventing her family from laying her to rest.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
They can't even have a funeral because they don't have
all of their daughter. We learn that LA law enforcement
is honing in on dating apps. I mean, if dating
apps had anything to do with this teen girl's murder
(02:04):
and dismemberment, then they need to be outlawed. I don't
like saying that, but how many cases do we hear
about where women, young ladies, teen girls like shardago on
a date engineered by a dating app and.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
They're never seen alive again.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Joining me right now is a very special guest, a
woman I now consider a friend.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Sheena Scarborough. This is shaw Dai's mother.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
How do you keep putting one foot in front of
the other?
Speaker 3 (02:38):
I mean, this girl.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Was everything, so smart, had her own little apartment that
she paid for by herself, had her own little car,
was going to college classes, the whole thing.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Oh yes, Nancy, this is so challenging daily I don't
know how to get I'm walking and Shutty's spirit and
in her grace, I am her voice I have to
speak an advocate through her.
Speaker 5 (03:12):
For others.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
This is not.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
Something that just like pulled up. It happened. I don't know.
Speaker 6 (03:22):
This is a waking nightmare daily every day I wake up.
I can't believe what is taking place. I am Shaddy
Robinson's mother. This is very ongoingly tragic. My baby was
my everything. She's my light, She's my star. She was
so amazingly beautiful. Like you stated, she was so independent,
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so sufficient. She had her whole life ahead of her.
She worked two jobs. She was dedicated, she was strong.
Two full time jobs the pizza shuttle. She was ranked
up to manage her. She started working in the tenth grade,
was ongoing, getting promoted dollar raises every six months, so
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they wanted her to be manager. She worked at the
Wisconsin Club part time, the Wisconsin Country Club. She got
her little sister a job there. That was her little
sister's first job. This has been traumatic and ongoing. She
was she was.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
Scheduled. She did receive her Associate of Ours degree in May. Nancy.
Everything has been back to back since.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
The last time I seen you from the.
Speaker 5 (04:40):
Maxwell Anderson that hard and hurt my baby.
Speaker 6 (04:48):
I want that individual and this family held fully accountable.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
This is unacceptable behavior.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Miss Tarborough. I'm seeing you and you have deafinite You're
wasting away. You just I can look at you and
you have lost so much weight. You're wasting away. How
are you managing to go forward?
Speaker 6 (05:15):
I can't sleep, Nancy, I can't eat.
Speaker 5 (05:19):
I'm doing ongoing, you know, therapy along with my youngest daughter.
Speaker 7 (05:29):
I have.
Speaker 5 (05:31):
Symptoms, physical symptoms.
Speaker 6 (05:33):
I don't mean to get in death, but I don't
share this a lot, but since this has happened, I'm
very empathic and I've always been like this. I can
literally feel the symptoms of what this person did to
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my daughter. I literally don't move this physically. It's a
lot of different layers of things going on with my
physic wealth. I can't describe it, but I don't know.
Nancy is through the phase. It is very challenging.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Guys joining me in addition to Miss Sheeniscarborough, who is
Shawde's mother, who has vowed to be her daughter's voice
throughout all of this. We are still on the search
for parts of Shade's body, but we are learning that
police are focusing now on various dating apps as to
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how this teen girl met up with a much much
older man.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
The defendant. His dad highly highly successful.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
His dad has a big local business who employed him
briefly before he was let go. Maxwell Anderson, thirty three
years old.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
I don't know what he.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Said to her on this dating app to make her
think that it was okay to go with him. But
we're not only learning about a potential dating app connection,
but we're also learning about an alleged CI, a confidential
informant that claims this guy, Maxwell Anderson, told him the
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CI that he was going to lure Shade, take her
to the basement, shoot.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Her, and dismember her.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Now, who the hey knows something like that and does
nothing But regarding these newly released warrants, listen.
Speaker 8 (07:42):
Eight unsealed warrants are giving new insights into the investigation
of Shade Robinson's murder. Newly released surveillance images show Shade
meeting Anderson at the Twisted Fishermen for their date. The
warrants also revealed police or reviewing employment records and surveillance
from Victor's nightclub. Anderson reportedly worked at Victory's, a club
that one of shaw Day's co workers as they frequented.
(08:03):
Investigators are trying to get a determine how Shawday met Anderson.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Joining US now investigative reporter and anchor at Fox six Milwaukee, Aaron.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Mabon Aarin, thank you for being with us.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
I've got so much evidence is being uncovered right now,
specifically as it relates to what we've discovered in those
just unsealed search warrants.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
What have you learned, well.
Speaker 9 (08:27):
I think the search warrants, it's very clear, Nancy. What
the search warrants say is that this was a planned
situation according to this informant who came out days after
all this kind of was revealed. This person came out
afterwards and let investigators know that they went inside Maxwell
Anderson's home. They saw three saws in there, they saw
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tarp in there too, and they had information that this
was going to happen. And what's really fascinating, Nancy, is
then nothing came out until after the death. What a
lot of people find really chilling in these unsealed search
warrants too. So you know a lot of people that
we talked.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
About, Wait a minute, let me understand something. Aaron Mayban
joining US FO six Milwaukee. So the sea I the
friend of the defendant, Maxwell Anderson goes into Anderson's home
and he sees all this before shaw Day is murdered.
Speaker 9 (09:25):
That's what the search warrens say, that this was seen
before Shade was murdered, and this CI had information never
came forward. Shadday Robinson goes missing. Maxwell Anderson is a
prime suspect, and then the CI informs police about what
they allegedly saw inside of that home.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Well, you're absolutely correct, Aaron Mayban listen.
Speaker 10 (09:49):
Maxwell Anderson had a sex dungeon in the basement of
his West Milwaukee home. According to a law enforcement source.
Cops found a sex sling restraints in handcuffs. A close
friend of Anderson said that on a visit to Anderson's
home last year, he noticed a large hole in the
ground that was about five feet long by six foot deep.
Anderson said he was working on an underground basement, despite
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having a large basement in the home already. Neighbors say
the basement in the home had small windows that were
always covered so you could not see inside.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Crime stories with Nancy Grace.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
In the Last Days Guilty, A spoiled brat Milwaukee man
fed his whole life with a silver spoon guilty convicted
in the brutal murder and dismemberment of a gorgeous, brilliant
young teen girl, college student, Saudey Robinson. What happened? This
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so called friend and ci confidental informant knew that all
of this was going to happen. Based on what you're
learning from the warrants, Aaron Maybin had Shahday, a teen girl,
already been targeted as the victim.
Speaker 9 (11:15):
You know what the warrant looks like, Nancy, is that
he planned on killing Shade Robinson according to this search warrant.
And again, Maxwell Anderson has not said anything. Attorney not
saying a thing either, And that's just you know, what
we're reading in here is some pretty chilling stuff. But
what's not clear, Nancy, is why exactly she was picked out,
(11:37):
why exactly she was targeted, And that's what family is
likely wanting to know too.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Okay, So from what I'm understanding, he actually targeted Shahday specifically.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
He wasn't going to lure.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
A woman, any woman to his home, take her down
the stairs into the basement, murder and just remember her.
It was shahdaycifically that he wanted.
Speaker 11 (12:03):
Listen, a friend of Anderson's is now working with law
enforcement as a confidential informant. The CI tells investigators in
early March, Anderson spoke of a plan to lure Schande
Robinson to his home, then forced her into the basement
at gunpoint, where he would shoot her, then dismember her
body and scatter her remains. The CI says Anderson showed
in the basement where Anderson had taped plastic paint protectors
(12:24):
to the walls and floor. The CI says there were
three saws in the preffed basement.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Brian Fitzgibbons help me.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Brian Fitzgibbons, director of Operations for USPA Nationwide Security, who
leads a team of investigators often looking for missing people. Brian,
did you hear what? A reporter with Crime Online just
stated that the CI talk about a day light and
(12:54):
a dollar short. The friend of Anderson's spoke of Anderson's
plan to lure shah Day specifically, not.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Just I'm going to get a woman and I'm going
to do X Y and Z. It was Shahday.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
He wonted then to quote force her into the basement
at gunpoint, where he would shooting and dismember her and
scatter the remains, and he had prepped it like.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
A spider with a fly.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Anderson tape plastic paint protectors to the walls and floor.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
What about it, Nancy?
Speaker 12 (13:27):
This speaks to the diabolical premeditation that took place here, Okay.
And it also speaks to the circles that Anderson was
running in the fact that, nearly a month before Shade
went missing, this confidential informant knew specifically about Anderson's plans,
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specifically with her.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Okay.
Speaker 12 (13:51):
So aside from the evidentiary value of this confidential informants
witness statement, you need to it adds a tremendous amount
of color to the life that Maxwell Anderson was leading.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
See you know what, Fitz Gibbons, you're talking in your
USPA Nationwide Security Code all right, speak, regular people talk.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
What do you mean?
Speaker 1 (14:16):
What did you just say about the color in which
his environment was painted?
Speaker 3 (14:20):
What are you saying? I think what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Let me be so bold as to climb out on
a limitar that Look at the people he's consorting with,
people that you say, Hey, I'm going to get this girl,
this teen girl, shy date.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
She's gorgeous, she's brilliant.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
I'm going to get her and lure her into my
basement at gunpoint, force her down there. I'm going to
kill her, and then I'm going to dismember her and
leave her body parts around town for people to find.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
And this guy does nothing.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Man, I'd have been on my cell phone as soon
as I got clear of that house.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Is that what you're saying to Gibbon? Speak English? To me, man,
that is exactly what I'm saying.
Speaker 12 (15:05):
So March fifth, this conversation with the confidential informant and
Anderson takes place, and he doesn't come forward for well
over a month, and still thirteen days after Shade was missing.
You know, this speaks clearly to the type of people
that Anderson was associating with.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
But why her?
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Why did he target this tane girl, this beautiful girl.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Why Shawdah, I'm come here today.
Speaker 13 (15:36):
This is the hardest thing I would ever have to
do in my life to speak Shaddy's voice. Shadai was
a beautiful soul. She was an amazing girl. Nancy, everything
spoke is exactly what my daughter exerted. I couldn't have
asked for any better daughter. There was things my daughter
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did that medi adults not even able, so accomplished in
their life times the son of a so fun daughter
from me.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
That's shaw Dai's mother, Sheena Scarborough. She's with us.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Now, Miss Scarborough, thank you for speaking out. I mean
from when we spoke then to now, I was looking
at you on camera before we started our program and
when you pull your hair back, I.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Could just see how much weight you have lost.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
And now when we are what we're learning from these
search warrants that he didn't just plan to pick any
woman to murder.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
He targeted shah Day.
Speaker 6 (16:44):
Why Nancy, I I don't know why my daughter was
chosen to be the voice to speak for individuals in
our community in Milwaukee is very concerning. Milwaukee is a
well known place for other serial killers known as you
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know Dahmer and other type of situations. I feel very
unsafe in Milwaukee right now. I'm concerned. As you stated,
your your babies just started school. My baby, her youngest
sister just started school as well.
Speaker 5 (17:21):
Today.
Speaker 6 (17:22):
I'm concerned for my baby, my youngest. It's a filling,
it's an edge, anxiety, anxious, constant feeling knowing that there
are serial killers in our community.
Speaker 5 (17:36):
This could have been any one of our daughters.
Speaker 6 (17:41):
I don't know why God selected us to be the
voice to speak for the other missing and murdered individuals
in our community.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Doctor Bethony Marshall uh renown Psycho Allen's joining us out
of l A.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Author of the book deal Breaker. You can see her
also on Peacock Now. Doctor Bethany Marshall at doctor Bethanymarshall
dot com Doctor Bethany Why Shadai. I'm going to get
into the whole dating app thing in just a moment, because.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
This ci, this friend is blowing me away.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
He goes to the perps time who is a rich,
spoiled brat suspect. He's had a silver spoon in his mouth.
It's day one. But even if Daddy didn't keep him
at the office, he had to let him go. I
can only imagine this. Oh, I can't even stand to
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look at him. Why Shadai? Why did he have to
pick a teen girl?
Speaker 5 (18:43):
I have a theory about why shut A.
Speaker 7 (18:45):
Shud Ay is gorgeous, young, successful, She already has her AA,
two jobs, her own apartment. She is at the top
of the world, and compare her to this loser who
can't even hold a job in his own father's company.
I bet he was envious of her, kind of like
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in cells where they want to be with the woman,
they envy the woman. They think the woman is above them,
but they want to take the woman down. So there's
destructive envy, there's destructive hatred. I bet he had a
lot of targets, but she just rose to the top
in terms of his selection. And this CI, Nancy, I
bet we're going to learn that Maxwell Anderson was a
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part of some underground either drug community or sex community.
And there are more people that knew than just the CI.
He wasn't just bringing to one person. He was either
a part of a BDSM community, a swinger's community, some
community with some perversion like pedophilia or something that they
all held in common.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
There's going to be a lot yes kind of athlete.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Before I speculate or you laid me down the garden
path about underground sex clubs, can I talk about what
I absolutely know because I can't put your speculation no
offense in front of a jury. I care about probative facts.
If I can't get him into evidence, they don't exist
to me. But what I can get into evidence is
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what I have discovered of these search warrants.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
I'm going to go back to Aaron Maybon on that.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Regarding dating apps that he was using and how shaw
Day ends up dead and it's not the first time
this has happened.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Listen.
Speaker 11 (20:29):
Sidney Loof agrees to meet her tender date Audrey again
tomorrow night, sharing with friends how excited she is. A
man is driving when Audrey picks Sydney up, but Sydney
still gets in the car. The next day, Sidney misses
work and isn't answering her phone. Sidney's friend finds Audrey
on tender who police identify as Bailey Boswell. A month later,
parts of Sydney's dismembered body are found discarded in thirty
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gallon trash bags trail amidst accidentally strangling Sidney while forcing
her to participate in a porn film.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
I met her on Tuesday.
Speaker 14 (21:01):
I want to take her home, and she asked me
to drop her off at a friend's house, so I
did so. I gave her my number. We were planning
to go to the casino that weekend. I mean, I
haven't heard from her since.
Speaker 11 (21:18):
Footage from inside the unfinished basement that police have called
a sex dungeon shows it's in disarray. A large hole
has been dug in the concrete floor. A drain in
the floor is stuff with towels. The drain cover marked
with evidence numbers. A door without a handle leads to
a dark closet, and there are several tables, a chair
and exercise equipment. The mattress of a queen bed frame
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is flipped on its side and betting is tossed over
a table in the corner of the room.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Sex dungeon and the defendant's basement. He was digging another
dungeon beneath that. The thought of this beautiful girl, Shawde
Robinson dying here, being dismembered here, her last moments spent
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in the basement of a spoiled brat. Thirty three year
old Maxwell Anderson a grim discover when Saide Robinson's arm
was found at Waukegan Beach, her body dismembered and placed
in parks around the area for children to find. What
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a freak her twenty twenty civic found torched the next day,
and video showed the perp the spoiled brat Anderson leaving
the scene where the burned car was found. He was
arrested two days later at a traffic stop. Believe it
or not, his lawyer, Tony Cotton, with a straight face,
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argued during the trial that no DNA links Anderson to
the crimes. Wow, I wonder why could it be because
he torched her car. Cotton did not respond to request
seeking comment after the verdict. Now we know the perp,
Anderson is facing a mandatory life sentence when he comes
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up for sentencing, But based on what I know, that's
too good for him. These facts are heinous with me,
as Shade's mother, Sheena Scarborough. I don't know if you
have seen the footage of that basement. It's filthy, it's
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dug up, it's covered in debris. And this.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Defendant picked shah Day out of all the women in
the area.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
To lure her down to that filthy basement to murder her.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
I just don't understand why her. Have you seen that basement?
Speaker 6 (24:01):
It discusses me, Nancy, my daughter, to not deserve this.
Speaker 5 (24:06):
This is unsurrell This is freaking unsurreal. Like, I don't
know how we were placed in this nightmare.
Speaker 6 (24:16):
By this demon, okay demon, and I don't want to
go there but there's no other terminology for individuals that
move like this, sociopaths, psycho you know, past like type energy.
Speaker 5 (24:31):
Again, like I.
Speaker 6 (24:35):
Speaking upon what the individual stated earlier, My daughter was
very highly achievable successful.
Speaker 5 (24:43):
I don't know what the motive would have been.
Speaker 6 (24:46):
I don't know how sociopaths, the cycle paths think like
this is unsurreal, but this is very concerning for the
Milwaukee community. All individuals and parents in the community needs
to be concerned about your kids right be concerned where
they're at.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
Shaddy's voice will be.
Speaker 6 (25:05):
Heard, and I'm speaking out for all of the other
missing individuals, not just the black and roaln but the
missing individuals there are a young man, there are other
individuals of all college. We represent all missing individuals that
have not been found.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Aaron may been joining me now, investigative reporter and anchor
Fox six in Milwaukee.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
I want to talk.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
About how and figure out how he identified Shade. And
I'm not quite sure probatively speaking, why this matters so
much to me that he picked her out. And I'm
thinking he left a trail digitally on his computer, on
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his laptop, on his cell phone.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
But Victor's bar plays a role in this, and.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Remind me to circle back because I think there's a
similar transaction a woman that claims she went on a
date with him and believes that he drugged her or
put something in her drink.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
Okay, just to start with that, because.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
I'm wondering and I'm going to go to medical examiner
doctor Kimball Crown's on whether we can determine anything like
that was in shay Day's system, even though we don't
have all of her body yet.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
But I think digitally and forensically, it's very important to.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Prove how the two connected, not just a matter of
my own curiosity why pick her, but probatively, what can
I tell.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
A jury, Aaron? What am I going to learn digitally?
Speaker 1 (26:31):
What footprint did he lead as to how he stalked her?
And what part did Victor's Bar play in this? Did
he work at Victor's Bar?
Speaker 9 (26:41):
Yeah, we know that he did work at Victor's Bar,
and that's what we kind of knew from the jump
that he was this guy who worked at different bars,
different restaurants around the area, and Victors was one of
those places. It's not clear exactly when exactly Shade Robinson
came into contact with Maxwell Anderson at Victors. But that
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was part of the story really early on, Nancy, that
he was this bartender, this bouncer at Victors and kind
of well known in that area, in that vicinity too.
And it could have been a place, according to investigators,
where he met girls where he interacted with them too.
So that's kind of where police are honing in on things.
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And not only Victors Bar, but and you touched on
this earlier. Dating apps are playing a role in all
this too. In this digital footprint. According to just a
search warrant, he had at least four dating apps on
his phone. You know, not too unpopular for someone in
their twenties and thirties, Nancy, because you know the game
has changed. People are meeting in person, but they're also
meeting on dating apps.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
You're right.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Brian Fitzgibbons, Director Operations USPA Nationwide Security, Brian, how many cases?
And I've told a Minia jury this People covet that
which they see, Okay, like David and Mathsheba. For Pete's sake,
he looks off as rufin there she is, so he
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has her husband murdered.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
It's as old as the story can be.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
And here there he is working in that bar, got
fired from his daddy's business, and he sees shaw Day
and she is his target.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
And he tells his friend, I'm going to get her,
not like I'm gonna.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Woo her and I'm going to treat her like a
queen and you know one day will be a thing.
Oh no, I'm going to get her. I'm going to
lure her right here to this house. I'm gonna take
her down to that base, and I'm going to kill her.
Now that's what I think happened. How can I prove it?
How can I prove it?
Speaker 3 (28:46):
Fitz Gibbons.
Speaker 12 (28:47):
I think most likely their first interaction was at Victor's.
And then we're hopeful that investigators, through these dating apps,
through these profiles are going to find that probative evidence
that you're looking for to prove Anderson's targeting. Okay, just
to watch his targeting and see it unfold digitally.
Speaker 15 (29:06):
Cops are also honing in on Anderson's dating app activity.
A folder in Anderson's home labeled dating contained handwritten logins
to bumble, hinge, OkCupid, and Tender. Those notes also contained
women's names and information about them. A woman who went
on a date with Anderson in February, is convinced he
drugged her drink.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Is there a similar transaction?
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Are there other women out there that interacted with this guy,
Maxwell Anderson that lived to tell the tale, or are
there other women who became his murder victims.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
We're trying to piece together everything we know.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Joining me right now, Doctor Kendall Crown's renowned chief medical examiner,
Terrence County, Lecturer at the esteemed Burnett School of Medicine
at TCU, Texas Christian University, Doctor Kendall Crown.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Thank you for being with us and let me hit
you right off the top.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Have you ever analyzed a dismemberment case?
Speaker 16 (30:10):
Yes, over the years, I've analyzed several dismemberment cases in
my career.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
How will we be able to tell whether these injuries
to Shade happened pre mortem or after death post mortem?
Speaker 5 (30:23):
So there's a couple of ways to tell.
Speaker 16 (30:25):
Usually, when someone is alive and they're shot or stabbed,
they will be hemorrhage into the tissues surrounding the injuries,
and after the heart stops beating these injuries, these tissues
won't have the hemorrhage in them. If you cause further damage.
So if you're cutting a limb off or something like that,
the cut area will be bloodless. So that's one way
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you can tell it. The only problem is is when
those limbs get thrown into water or get rained on
something like that, the water can actually wash the blood
out of the tissues, so it will make it kind
of hard to tell if it had in premortem or
post mortem. But the one main thing is is you
can look for hemorrhage.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
I got to understand what you just said, doctor Kendall Crowns.
You said to.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Tell if the injuries, the dismemberment occurred before death or
after death, that you would look for hemorrhaging at the
sight of the sever where the limb was cut, where
the leg was cut off. Now what does that mean
to correct? Did at that point did she bleed? She
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did not bleed. It was post mortem after death because
the heart was no longer pumping.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
Is that what you just said?
Speaker 5 (31:40):
Yes, that's correct.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Then you said if the body parts, which is a
leg or an arm, had been in water.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
Or rained upon, it would destroy that evidence.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
In other words, you won't be able to see even
under a microscope if there had been hemorrhaging. In other words, bleeding.
Is that what you just.
Speaker 16 (31:58):
Said, Yes, that's correct, will wash out the blood out
of the tissues as it's in them. Is it's in
a watery environment for a long period of time.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace Bob Sheell verdict in the courtroom.
A spoiled brat convicted in the brutal murder and dismembering
of a teen college student, Saude Robinson.
Speaker 17 (32:29):
Many of these body parts of this gorgeous girl were
left out in the open, Aaron Mabon very quickly, investigator
reporter Fox six Milwaukee.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
Her body parts of this girl were left all over town.
And that was his plan.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
He told the CEI his friend, Like the devil can
have a friend. He tells his friend that he's going
to lure her, take her down into the basement ie
sex dungeon looks like a filthy basement, and they kill
her and then dismember her and leave her body parts
all over town.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
That was his original plan. Aaron Mabon, isn't that true?
Speaker 9 (33:10):
And Nancy, when you look at the map that we're
looking at right now, that's something because you have to
realize that those body parts were left or other people
to find. So people walking on the beach and they
just find a severed arm. They're walking through their neighborhood
near a playground, Nancy, and they are finding body parts too.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
So yeah, according to.
Speaker 9 (33:30):
The CI, that was a goal to dismember the body,
sprinkle it throughout town. We know from police that there's
surveillance evidence of him on different bus routes him all
over town. And they have piece it together like this
right here with the backpack. They piece it together that
he was just dumping body parts all over the place.
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One part even left the state of Wisconsin. It went
to Illinois. It washed down the shore to Illinois where
someone else found that body part.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Laban, Laban, making my stomach physically hurt right now, actually
making my stomach hurt.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
Doctor hold on, doctor Kendall Crowns, because I.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Got to talk to you about how difficult it is
to actually dismember someone, and how I'm telling you this
ain't this guy's first time at the rodeo, all right,
because he planned this whole thing out. Hold doctor Crowns,
Doctor Bethany Marshall, you gotta help me right now, because
this was his plan all along to get this girl,
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not any girl, shah day as I said, the jewel
in the crown, the gorgeous girl sitting at his bar
at Victor's. He gets, sir and all along. He told
his friend up front he's going to get her, lure her,
take her in the basement at gunpoint, kill her, and
dismember her and put her body parts all over town.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
What is that?
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Why would you put this girl's body parts where other
people can find them.
Speaker 7 (34:58):
You know what's interesting, Nancy is he doesn't seem to
be scattering her remains in order to not be ided.
He's scattering them because he wants to have power over
the community. He wants to terrify and terrorize everybody.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
Big guys, I don't even know what you're saying. He
wanted to have power over the community, terrify the community.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Okay, tell you right now, that's not what happened. But
I know he didn't do this to have power.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
Over the community. I've never heard anything like that, but
this reminds me a freak. He is a devil straight
from hell, That's.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Why he did it. But there's got to be most killers, Bethany.
They want to hide the body. They bury it, they
put it in the ocean, they weighed it down with
smit Brooks like Scott Peterson did Lacy. This guy left
her remains in public parks for children to find.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
Now shrink that focus focus well, I.
Speaker 7 (35:56):
Think somehow that was sexually exciting to him, just like
sexual sadism. You and I often talk about where the
perpetrator inflicts cruelty in order to increase sexual arousal, that
this is just prolonging the crime, and it's sort of
exciting to scatter these parts all over the community and
to imagine what their reactions will be. This is a
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little guy who can't get a job at his own
father's store. He's small in life, he's small and stature,
he's small psychologically, and this is the only way he
can get excitement. Is this form of thrill seeking. It
actually reminds me Nancy who free I.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
Got to go to Miss Garborough, Miss Garborough.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
Just the thought of this devil after what he did
to Shah Day then taking her body part and lee
what on a kid's slide at the playground and somehow
enjoying that. I don't understand how anybody can be so
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evil And he's not crazy.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
He's not crazy, he's sane.
Speaker 5 (37:09):
It's a sex son of a I'm sorry, excuse my language.
Speaker 6 (37:13):
I can that this is I don't even know how
I'm present to be able to be here and discuss
these things with you. But again, my community needs to
be aware and they need to know what's going on.
They need to be watching out for their kids. Look
what type of individual justice? Why would you harm my baby?
She hurt nobody. She was angelic, She put out good energy,
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She helped others. He was there for the community. She
was there for the elders, the young people, her peers.
She was constantly giving back. There is something deeper into this,
but the truth is going to be told.
Speaker 5 (37:51):
We are worthy for a jury, the trial dury. I
want justice for Shutte. I want the truth to be told.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
Now we are learning this spoiled Bratt Maxwell Anderson, aged
thirty three, working part time and to get pick up
a job, turned his cell phone off.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
Sounds a lot like Brian Koberger at the same time
Shai Day was murdered. Let me go very quickly to
doctor Kendall Crowns before I get off on the cell phone.
And what it means that coincidentally, he turned his phone
off at the exact time Shaide was killed. Doctor Kendall Crowns,
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How difficult is it to dismember a human body?
Speaker 3 (38:40):
I mean, this was his plan all along. He told
the CI that and he did it.
Speaker 16 (38:45):
So it depends on how you dismember the individual. If
you cut at joint spaces, like along the wrists or
the elbow or the shoulder, you can actually pull the
limb off quite easily. But if you start cutting in
the midshaft of the bone itself, it's very hard to
get through the bone. So if you know what you're doing,
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you can dismember an individual quite quickly. But if you're
focusing on.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
Wait, if you know what you're doing, did you just
say that I'm sorry?
Speaker 12 (39:16):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (39:17):
Did you just say If you know what you're doing,
you can dismember a human very quickly.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
Okay, well let's just go Let.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
Me just again go out on a limb and pretend
this is his first time dismembering someone.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
How do you know what he's doing, Well, if.
Speaker 16 (39:31):
He has any background in hunting or cooking or anything
like that where he's worked with chickens, if you understand
where the joint spaces are you can dismember an individual
quite quickly. But again, if you don't understand that, and you.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
Say what do you mean by quickly?
Speaker 1 (39:47):
I thank you, and I are in two different time
space continuums. What do you mean you can dismember a
body relatively quickly?
Speaker 16 (39:55):
Again, you can take the if you go for the
joint spaces, you can take each arm off.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
Each What is quickly? What is quickly to doctor Kendall Crowns,
What does that mean to you? How quicker can you
dismember under an hour? Wait, I'm not talking about Dexter.
It takes an hour for one one episode of Dexter,
and that's starter to finish Alpha omega.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
Soup to nuts.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
You're telling me a body can be dismembered by an
amateur in an hour.
Speaker 16 (40:29):
Well, by an amateur, it'd probably take over an hour,
maybe longer, maybe several hours. Again, it's just what is
their knowledge base for taking a part limbs?
Speaker 1 (40:41):
Okay, well I'm going to go with what you just said.
Dr Bethany Marshall. The dismemberment of this little girl was
part of his fantasy.
Speaker 3 (40:54):
Yes, I bet you he dragged it out.
Speaker 1 (40:57):
The placing of the body parts on the kid's life.
So it's almost more than I can take, can't. I
hate to even say it in front of miss Shehena Nacy.
Speaker 3 (41:05):
I didn't want to say this in front of missus Robinson.
Speaker 7 (41:08):
I don't want to be offensive.
Speaker 3 (41:09):
But this was a sexually motivated crime.
Speaker 7 (41:11):
This is a beautiful young woman, and torturing her, dragging
this out, dismembering her, all of those acts of cruelty
were to enhance his sexual arousal. But Nancy then placing
the body parts around, shocking other people, it's the element
of shock that made him sexually excited. So this guy
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is just prolonging the crime, and he probably built up
to it for a long long time. Even in terms
of the dismembering. I would look at his computer and
see if he googled how to do that, because he
was already planning to do it.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
Now it's a matter of sentencing. Can't these sentences be
stacked life plus twenty plus twenty plus twenty life for
the murder, twenty for the arson, twenty for tampering with
the corpse, and so on and so on. I want
to make sure he never sees the light of day again.
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We wait as justice unfolds, and God bless the family
of Sunday Robinson.
Speaker 3 (42:17):
Goodbye friend,
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace bombshell in the courtroom. A
man just found guilty of murdering and dismembering a beautiful
teen girl saw Dave Robinson after their first date in Milwaukee.
I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. I want to
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thank you for being with us. A Milwaukee man just
found guilty of murdering and dismembering a teen girl college
student the night of their first date. Maxwell Anderson charged
with first degree intentional homicide. Grew up with a silver
spoon in his mouth. Now guilty of intentional homicide, dismembering
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a corpse, arson high, and hiding a corpse in connection
with the death of this incredibly beautiful young girl. The
jury convicts on all four counts we learned during the trial.
Investigators believe Anderson murdered Sowday on their very first date,
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dismembered her, and spread her remains all around Milwaukee County.
Saday last seen alive in Anderson's home. What more do
we know about the facts.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Shade's right leg, left foot, torso, and one of her
arms were found scattered around Milwaukee more than a month
after her death. A second arm washed up on a
Wakegan Illinois Beach. It has now been confirmed as Shade's
through DNA testing. Shade's head and right leg are still missing,
preventing her family from laying her to rest.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
They can't even have a funeral because they don't have
all of their daughter. We learn that LA law enforcement
is honing in on dating apps. I mean, if dating
apps had anything to do with this teen girl's murder
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and dismemberment, then they need to be outlawed. I don't
like saying that, but how many cases do we hear
about where women, young ladies, teen girls like shardago on
a date engineered by a dating app and.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
They're never seen alive again.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Joining me right now is a very special guest, a
woman I now consider a friend.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Sheena Scarborough. This is shaw Dai's mother.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
How do you keep putting one foot in front of
the other?
Speaker 3 (02:38):
I mean, this girl.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Was everything, so smart, had her own little apartment that
she paid for by herself, had her own little car,
was going to college classes, the whole thing.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Oh yes, Nancy, this is so challenging daily I don't
know how to get I'm walking and Shutty's spirit and
in her grace, I am her voice I have to
speak an advocate through her.
Speaker 5 (03:12):
For others.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
This is not.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
Something that just like pulled up. It happened. I don't know.
Speaker 6 (03:22):
This is a waking nightmare daily every day I wake up.
I can't believe what is taking place. I am Shaddy
Robinson's mother. This is very ongoingly tragic. My baby was
my everything. She's my light, She's my star. She was
so amazingly beautiful. Like you stated, she was so independent,
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so sufficient. She had her whole life ahead of her.
She worked two jobs. She was dedicated, she was strong.
Two full time jobs the pizza shuttle. She was ranked
up to manage her. She started working in the tenth grade,
was ongoing, getting promoted dollar raises every six months, so
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they wanted her to be manager. She worked at the
Wisconsin Club part time, the Wisconsin Country Club. She got
her little sister a job there. That was her little
sister's first job. This has been traumatic and ongoing. She
was she was.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
Scheduled. She did receive her Associate of Ours degree in May. Nancy.
Everything has been back to back since.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
The last time I seen you from the.
Speaker 5 (04:40):
Maxwell Anderson that hard and hurt my baby.
Speaker 6 (04:48):
I want that individual and this family held fully accountable.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
This is unacceptable behavior.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Miss Tarborough. I'm seeing you and you have deafinite You're
wasting away. You just I can look at you and
you have lost so much weight. You're wasting away. How
are you managing to go forward?
Speaker 6 (05:15):
I can't sleep, Nancy, I can't eat.
Speaker 5 (05:19):
I'm doing ongoing, you know, therapy along with my youngest daughter.
Speaker 7 (05:29):
I have.
Speaker 5 (05:31):
Symptoms, physical symptoms.
Speaker 6 (05:33):
I don't mean to get in death, but I don't
share this a lot, but since this has happened, I'm
very empathic and I've always been like this. I can
literally feel the symptoms of what this person did to
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my daughter. I literally don't move this physically. It's a
lot of different layers of things going on with my
physic wealth. I can't describe it, but I don't know.
Nancy is through the phase. It is very challenging.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Guys joining me in addition to Miss Sheeniscarborough, who is
Shawde's mother, who has vowed to be her daughter's voice
throughout all of this. We are still on the search
for parts of Shade's body, but we are learning that
police are focusing now on various dating apps as to
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how this teen girl met up with a much much
older man.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
The defendant. His dad highly highly successful.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
His dad has a big local business who employed him
briefly before he was let go. Maxwell Anderson, thirty three
years old.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
I don't know what he.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Said to her on this dating app to make her
think that it was okay to go with him. But
we're not only learning about a potential dating app connection,
but we're also learning about an alleged CI, a confidential
informant that claims this guy, Maxwell Anderson, told him the
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CI that he was going to lure Shade, take her
to the basement, shoot.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Her, and dismember her.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Now, who the hey knows something like that and does
nothing But regarding these newly released warrants, listen.
Speaker 8 (07:42):
Eight unsealed warrants are giving new insights into the investigation
of Shade Robinson's murder. Newly released surveillance images show Shade
meeting Anderson at the Twisted Fishermen for their date. The
warrants also revealed police or reviewing employment records and surveillance
from Victor's nightclub. Anderson reportedly worked at Victory's, a club
that one of shaw Day's co workers as they frequented.
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Investigators are trying to get a determine how Shawday met Anderson.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Joining US now investigative reporter and anchor at Fox six Milwaukee, Aaron.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Mabon Aarin, thank you for being with us.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
I've got so much evidence is being uncovered right now,
specifically as it relates to what we've discovered in those
just unsealed search warrants.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
What have you learned, well.
Speaker 9 (08:27):
I think the search warrants, it's very clear, Nancy. What
the search warrants say is that this was a planned
situation according to this informant who came out days after
all this kind of was revealed. This person came out
afterwards and let investigators know that they went inside Maxwell
Anderson's home. They saw three saws in there, they saw
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tarp in there too, and they had information that this
was going to happen. And what's really fascinating, Nancy, is
then nothing came out until after the death. What a
lot of people find really chilling in these unsealed search
warrants too. So you know a lot of people that
we talked.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
About, Wait a minute, let me understand something. Aaron Mayban
joining US FO six Milwaukee. So the sea I the
friend of the defendant, Maxwell Anderson goes into Anderson's home
and he sees all this before shaw Day is murdered.
Speaker 9 (09:25):
That's what the search warrens say, that this was seen
before Shade was murdered, and this CI had information never
came forward. Shadday Robinson goes missing. Maxwell Anderson is a
prime suspect, and then the CI informs police about what
they allegedly saw inside of that home.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Well, you're absolutely correct, Aaron Mayban listen.
Speaker 10 (09:49):
Maxwell Anderson had a sex dungeon in the basement of
his West Milwaukee home. According to a law enforcement source.
Cops found a sex sling restraints in handcuffs. A close
friend of Anderson said that on a visit to Anderson's
home last year, he noticed a large hole in the
ground that was about five feet long by six foot deep.
Anderson said he was working on an underground basement, despite
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having a large basement in the home already. Neighbors say
the basement in the home had small windows that were
always covered so you could not see inside.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Crime stories with Nancy Grace.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
In the Last Days Guilty, A spoiled brat Milwaukee man
fed his whole life with a silver spoon guilty convicted
in the brutal murder and dismemberment of a gorgeous, brilliant
young teen girl, college student, Saudey Robinson. What happened? This
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so called friend and ci confidental informant knew that all
of this was going to happen. Based on what you're
learning from the warrants, Aaron Maybin had Shahday, a teen girl,
already been targeted as the victim.
Speaker 9 (11:15):
You know what the warrant looks like, Nancy, is that
he planned on killing Shade Robinson according to this search warrant.
And again, Maxwell Anderson has not said anything. Attorney not
saying a thing either, And that's just you know, what
we're reading in here is some pretty chilling stuff. But
what's not clear, Nancy, is why exactly she was picked out,
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why exactly she was targeted, And that's what family is
likely wanting to know too.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Okay, So from what I'm understanding, he actually targeted Shahday specifically.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
He wasn't going to lure.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
A woman, any woman to his home, take her down
the stairs into the basement, murder and just remember her.
It was shahdaycifically that he wanted.
Speaker 11 (12:03):
Listen, a friend of Anderson's is now working with law
enforcement as a confidential informant. The CI tells investigators in
early March, Anderson spoke of a plan to lure Schande
Robinson to his home, then forced her into the basement
at gunpoint, where he would shoot her, then dismember her
body and scatter her remains. The CI says Anderson showed
in the basement where Anderson had taped plastic paint protectors
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to the walls and floor. The CI says there were
three saws in the preffed basement.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Brian Fitzgibbons help me.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Brian Fitzgibbons, director of Operations for USPA Nationwide Security, who
leads a team of investigators often looking for missing people. Brian,
did you hear what? A reporter with Crime Online just
stated that the CI talk about a day light and
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a dollar short. The friend of Anderson's spoke of Anderson's
plan to lure shah Day specifically, not.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Just I'm going to get a woman and I'm going
to do X Y and Z. It was Shahday.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
He wonted then to quote force her into the basement
at gunpoint, where he would shooting and dismember her and
scatter the remains, and he had prepped it like.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
A spider with a fly.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Anderson tape plastic paint protectors to the walls and floor.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
What about it, Nancy?
Speaker 12 (13:27):
This speaks to the diabolical premeditation that took place here, Okay.
And it also speaks to the circles that Anderson was
running in the fact that, nearly a month before Shade
went missing, this confidential informant knew specifically about Anderson's plans,
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specifically with her.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Okay.
Speaker 12 (13:51):
So aside from the evidentiary value of this confidential informants
witness statement, you need to it adds a tremendous amount
of color to the life that Maxwell Anderson was leading.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
See you know what, Fitz Gibbons, you're talking in your
USPA Nationwide Security Code all right, speak, regular people talk.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
What do you mean?
Speaker 1 (14:16):
What did you just say about the color in which
his environment was painted?
Speaker 3 (14:20):
What are you saying? I think what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Let me be so bold as to climb out on
a limitar that Look at the people he's consorting with,
people that you say, Hey, I'm going to get this girl,
this teen girl, shy date.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
She's gorgeous, she's brilliant.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
I'm going to get her and lure her into my
basement at gunpoint, force her down there. I'm going to
kill her, and then I'm going to dismember her and
leave her body parts around town for people to find.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
And this guy does nothing.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Man, I'd have been on my cell phone as soon
as I got clear of that house.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Is that what you're saying to Gibbon? Speak English? To me, man,
that is exactly what I'm saying.
Speaker 12 (15:05):
So March fifth, this conversation with the confidential informant and
Anderson takes place, and he doesn't come forward for well
over a month, and still thirteen days after Shade was missing.
You know, this speaks clearly to the type of people
that Anderson was associating with.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
But why her?
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Why did he target this tane girl, this beautiful girl.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Why Shawdah, I'm come here today.
Speaker 13 (15:36):
This is the hardest thing I would ever have to
do in my life to speak Shaddy's voice. Shadai was
a beautiful soul. She was an amazing girl. Nancy, everything
spoke is exactly what my daughter exerted. I couldn't have
asked for any better daughter. There was things my daughter
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did that medi adults not even able, so accomplished in
their life times the son of a so fun daughter
from me.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
That's shaw Dai's mother, Sheena Scarborough. She's with us.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Now, Miss Scarborough, thank you for speaking out. I mean
from when we spoke then to now, I was looking
at you on camera before we started our program and
when you pull your hair back, I.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Could just see how much weight you have lost.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
And now when we are what we're learning from these
search warrants that he didn't just plan to pick any
woman to murder.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
He targeted shah Day.
Speaker 6 (16:44):
Why Nancy, I I don't know why my daughter was
chosen to be the voice to speak for individuals in
our community in Milwaukee is very concerning. Milwaukee is a
well known place for other serial killers known as you
(17:06):
know Dahmer and other type of situations. I feel very
unsafe in Milwaukee right now. I'm concerned. As you stated,
your your babies just started school. My baby, her youngest
sister just started school as well.
Speaker 5 (17:21):
Today.
Speaker 6 (17:22):
I'm concerned for my baby, my youngest. It's a filling,
it's an edge, anxiety, anxious, constant feeling knowing that there
are serial killers in our community.
Speaker 5 (17:36):
This could have been any one of our daughters.
Speaker 6 (17:41):
I don't know why God selected us to be the
voice to speak for the other missing and murdered individuals
in our community.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Doctor Bethony Marshall uh renown Psycho Allen's joining us out
of l A.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Author of the book deal Breaker. You can see her
also on Peacock Now. Doctor Bethany Marshall at doctor Bethanymarshall
dot com Doctor Bethany Why Shadai. I'm going to get
into the whole dating app thing in just a moment, because.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
This ci, this friend is blowing me away.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
He goes to the perps time who is a rich,
spoiled brat suspect. He's had a silver spoon in his mouth.
It's day one. But even if Daddy didn't keep him
at the office, he had to let him go. I
can only imagine this. Oh, I can't even stand to
(18:37):
look at him. Why Shadai? Why did he have to
pick a teen girl?
Speaker 5 (18:43):
I have a theory about why shut A.
Speaker 7 (18:45):
Shud Ay is gorgeous, young, successful, She already has her AA,
two jobs, her own apartment. She is at the top
of the world, and compare her to this loser who
can't even hold a job in his own father's company.
I bet he was envious of her, kind of like
(19:06):
in cells where they want to be with the woman,
they envy the woman. They think the woman is above them,
but they want to take the woman down. So there's
destructive envy, there's destructive hatred. I bet he had a
lot of targets, but she just rose to the top
in terms of his selection. And this CI, Nancy, I
bet we're going to learn that Maxwell Anderson was a
(19:28):
part of some underground either drug community or sex community.
And there are more people that knew than just the CI.
He wasn't just bringing to one person. He was either
a part of a BDSM community, a swinger's community, some
community with some perversion like pedophilia or something that they
all held in common.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
There's going to be a lot yes kind of athlete.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Before I speculate or you laid me down the garden
path about underground sex clubs, can I talk about what
I absolutely know because I can't put your speculation no
offense in front of a jury. I care about probative facts.
If I can't get him into evidence, they don't exist
to me. But what I can get into evidence is
(20:13):
what I have discovered of these search warrants.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
I'm going to go back to Aaron Maybon on that.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Regarding dating apps that he was using and how shaw
Day ends up dead and it's not the first time
this has happened.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Listen.
Speaker 11 (20:29):
Sidney Loof agrees to meet her tender date Audrey again
tomorrow night, sharing with friends how excited she is. A
man is driving when Audrey picks Sydney up, but Sydney
still gets in the car. The next day, Sidney misses
work and isn't answering her phone. Sidney's friend finds Audrey
on tender who police identify as Bailey Boswell. A month later,
parts of Sydney's dismembered body are found discarded in thirty
(20:52):
gallon trash bags trail amidst accidentally strangling Sidney while forcing
her to participate in a porn film.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
I met her on Tuesday.
Speaker 14 (21:01):
I want to take her home, and she asked me
to drop her off at a friend's house, so I
did so. I gave her my number. We were planning
to go to the casino that weekend. I mean, I
haven't heard from her since.
Speaker 11 (21:18):
Footage from inside the unfinished basement that police have called
a sex dungeon shows it's in disarray. A large hole
has been dug in the concrete floor. A drain in
the floor is stuff with towels. The drain cover marked
with evidence numbers. A door without a handle leads to
a dark closet, and there are several tables, a chair
and exercise equipment. The mattress of a queen bed frame
(21:39):
is flipped on its side and betting is tossed over
a table in the corner of the room.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Sex dungeon and the defendant's basement. He was digging another
dungeon beneath that. The thought of this beautiful girl, Shawde
Robinson dying here, being dismembered here, her last moments spent
(22:09):
in the basement of a spoiled brat. Thirty three year
old Maxwell Anderson a grim discover when Saide Robinson's arm
was found at Waukegan Beach, her body dismembered and placed
in parks around the area for children to find. What
(22:31):
a freak her twenty twenty civic found torched the next day,
and video showed the perp the spoiled brat Anderson leaving
the scene where the burned car was found. He was
arrested two days later at a traffic stop. Believe it
or not, his lawyer, Tony Cotton, with a straight face,
(22:54):
argued during the trial that no DNA links Anderson to
the crimes. Wow, I wonder why could it be because
he torched her car. Cotton did not respond to request
seeking comment after the verdict. Now we know the perp,
Anderson is facing a mandatory life sentence when he comes
(23:15):
up for sentencing, But based on what I know, that's
too good for him. These facts are heinous with me,
as Shade's mother, Sheena Scarborough. I don't know if you
have seen the footage of that basement. It's filthy, it's
(23:37):
dug up, it's covered in debris. And this.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Defendant picked shah Day out of all the women in
the area.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
To lure her down to that filthy basement to murder her.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
I just don't understand why her. Have you seen that basement?
Speaker 6 (24:01):
It discusses me, Nancy, my daughter, to not deserve this.
Speaker 5 (24:06):
This is unsurrell This is freaking unsurreal. Like, I don't
know how we were placed in this nightmare.
Speaker 6 (24:16):
By this demon, okay demon, and I don't want to
go there but there's no other terminology for individuals that
move like this, sociopaths, psycho you know, past like type energy.
Speaker 5 (24:31):
Again, like I.
Speaker 6 (24:35):
Speaking upon what the individual stated earlier, My daughter was
very highly achievable successful.
Speaker 5 (24:43):
I don't know what the motive would have been.
Speaker 6 (24:46):
I don't know how sociopaths, the cycle paths think like
this is unsurreal, but this is very concerning for the
Milwaukee community. All individuals and parents in the community needs
to be concerned about your kids right be concerned where
they're at.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
Shaddy's voice will be.
Speaker 6 (25:05):
Heard, and I'm speaking out for all of the other
missing individuals, not just the black and roaln but the
missing individuals there are a young man, there are other
individuals of all college. We represent all missing individuals that
have not been found.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Aaron may been joining me now, investigative reporter and anchor
Fox six in Milwaukee.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
I want to talk.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
About how and figure out how he identified Shade. And
I'm not quite sure probatively speaking, why this matters so
much to me that he picked her out. And I'm
thinking he left a trail digitally on his computer, on
(25:45):
his laptop, on his cell phone.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
But Victor's bar plays a role in this, and.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Remind me to circle back because I think there's a
similar transaction a woman that claims she went on a
date with him and believes that he drugged her or
put something in her drink.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
Okay, just to start with that, because.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
I'm wondering and I'm going to go to medical examiner
doctor Kimball Crown's on whether we can determine anything like
that was in shay Day's system, even though we don't
have all of her body yet.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
But I think digitally and forensically, it's very important to.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Prove how the two connected, not just a matter of
my own curiosity why pick her, but probatively, what can
I tell.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
A jury, Aaron? What am I going to learn digitally?
Speaker 1 (26:31):
What footprint did he lead as to how he stalked her?
And what part did Victor's Bar play in this? Did
he work at Victor's Bar?
Speaker 9 (26:41):
Yeah, we know that he did work at Victor's Bar,
and that's what we kind of knew from the jump
that he was this guy who worked at different bars,
different restaurants around the area, and Victors was one of
those places. It's not clear exactly when exactly Shade Robinson
came into contact with Maxwell Anderson at Victors. But that
(27:02):
was part of the story really early on, Nancy, that
he was this bartender, this bouncer at Victors and kind
of well known in that area, in that vicinity too.
And it could have been a place, according to investigators,
where he met girls where he interacted with them too.
So that's kind of where police are honing in on things.
(27:24):
And not only Victors Bar, but and you touched on
this earlier. Dating apps are playing a role in all
this too. In this digital footprint. According to just a
search warrant, he had at least four dating apps on
his phone. You know, not too unpopular for someone in
their twenties and thirties, Nancy, because you know the game
has changed. People are meeting in person, but they're also
meeting on dating apps.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
You're right.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Brian Fitzgibbons, Director Operations USPA Nationwide Security, Brian, how many cases?
And I've told a Minia jury this People covet that
which they see, Okay, like David and Mathsheba. For Pete's sake,
he looks off as rufin there she is, so he
(28:08):
has her husband murdered.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
It's as old as the story can be.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
And here there he is working in that bar, got
fired from his daddy's business, and he sees shaw Day
and she is his target.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
And he tells his friend, I'm going to get her,
not like I'm gonna.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Woo her and I'm going to treat her like a
queen and you know one day will be a thing.
Oh no, I'm going to get her. I'm going to
lure her right here to this house. I'm gonna take
her down to that base, and I'm going to kill her.
Now that's what I think happened. How can I prove it?
How can I prove it?
Speaker 3 (28:46):
Fitz Gibbons.
Speaker 12 (28:47):
I think most likely their first interaction was at Victor's.
And then we're hopeful that investigators, through these dating apps,
through these profiles are going to find that probative evidence
that you're looking for to prove Anderson's targeting. Okay, just
to watch his targeting and see it unfold digitally.
Speaker 15 (29:06):
Cops are also honing in on Anderson's dating app activity.
A folder in Anderson's home labeled dating contained handwritten logins
to bumble, hinge, OkCupid, and Tender. Those notes also contained
women's names and information about them. A woman who went
on a date with Anderson in February, is convinced he
drugged her drink.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Is there a similar transaction?
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Are there other women out there that interacted with this guy,
Maxwell Anderson that lived to tell the tale, or are
there other women who became his murder victims.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
We're trying to piece together everything we know.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Joining me right now, Doctor Kendall Crown's renowned chief medical examiner,
Terrence County, Lecturer at the esteemed Burnett School of Medicine
at TCU, Texas Christian University, Doctor Kendall Crown.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Thank you for being with us and let me hit
you right off the top.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Have you ever analyzed a dismemberment case?
Speaker 16 (30:10):
Yes, over the years, I've analyzed several dismemberment cases in
my career.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
How will we be able to tell whether these injuries
to Shade happened pre mortem or after death post mortem?
Speaker 5 (30:23):
So there's a couple of ways to tell.
Speaker 16 (30:25):
Usually, when someone is alive and they're shot or stabbed,
they will be hemorrhage into the tissues surrounding the injuries,
and after the heart stops beating these injuries, these tissues
won't have the hemorrhage in them. If you cause further damage.
So if you're cutting a limb off or something like that,
the cut area will be bloodless. So that's one way
(30:47):
you can tell it. The only problem is is when
those limbs get thrown into water or get rained on
something like that, the water can actually wash the blood
out of the tissues, so it will make it kind
of hard to tell if it had in premortem or
post mortem. But the one main thing is is you
can look for hemorrhage.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
I got to understand what you just said, doctor Kendall Crowns.
You said to.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Tell if the injuries, the dismemberment occurred before death or
after death, that you would look for hemorrhaging at the
sight of the sever where the limb was cut, where
the leg was cut off. Now what does that mean
to correct? Did at that point did she bleed? She
(31:34):
did not bleed. It was post mortem after death because
the heart was no longer pumping.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
Is that what you just said?
Speaker 5 (31:40):
Yes, that's correct.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Then you said if the body parts, which is a
leg or an arm, had been in water.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
Or rained upon, it would destroy that evidence.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
In other words, you won't be able to see even
under a microscope if there had been hemorrhaging. In other words, bleeding.
Is that what you just.
Speaker 16 (31:58):
Said, Yes, that's correct, will wash out the blood out
of the tissues as it's in them. Is it's in
a watery environment for a long period of time.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace Bob Sheell verdict in the courtroom.
A spoiled brat convicted in the brutal murder and dismembering
of a teen college student, Saude Robinson.
Speaker 17 (32:29):
Many of these body parts of this gorgeous girl were
left out in the open, Aaron Mabon very quickly, investigator
reporter Fox six Milwaukee.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
Her body parts of this girl were left all over town.
And that was his plan.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
He told the CEI his friend, Like the devil can
have a friend. He tells his friend that he's going
to lure her, take her down into the basement ie
sex dungeon looks like a filthy basement, and they kill
her and then dismember her and leave her body parts
all over town.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
That was his original plan. Aaron Mabon, isn't that true?
Speaker 9 (33:10):
And Nancy, when you look at the map that we're
looking at right now, that's something because you have to
realize that those body parts were left or other people
to find. So people walking on the beach and they
just find a severed arm. They're walking through their neighborhood
near a playground, Nancy, and they are finding body parts too.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
So yeah, according to.
Speaker 9 (33:30):
The CI, that was a goal to dismember the body,
sprinkle it throughout town. We know from police that there's
surveillance evidence of him on different bus routes him all
over town. And they have piece it together like this
right here with the backpack. They piece it together that
he was just dumping body parts all over the place.
(33:50):
One part even left the state of Wisconsin. It went
to Illinois. It washed down the shore to Illinois where
someone else found that body part.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Laban, Laban, making my stomach physically hurt right now, actually
making my stomach hurt.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
Doctor hold on, doctor Kendall Crowns, because I.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Got to talk to you about how difficult it is
to actually dismember someone, and how I'm telling you this
ain't this guy's first time at the rodeo, all right,
because he planned this whole thing out. Hold doctor Crowns,
Doctor Bethany Marshall, you gotta help me right now, because
this was his plan all along to get this girl,
(34:31):
not any girl, shah day as I said, the jewel
in the crown, the gorgeous girl sitting at his bar
at Victor's. He gets, sir and all along. He told
his friend up front he's going to get her, lure her,
take her in the basement at gunpoint, kill her, and
dismember her and put her body parts all over town.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
What is that?
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Why would you put this girl's body parts where other
people can find them.
Speaker 7 (34:58):
You know what's interesting, Nancy is he doesn't seem to
be scattering her remains in order to not be ided.
He's scattering them because he wants to have power over
the community. He wants to terrify and terrorize everybody.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
Big guys, I don't even know what you're saying. He
wanted to have power over the community, terrify the community.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Okay, tell you right now, that's not what happened. But
I know he didn't do this to have power.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
Over the community. I've never heard anything like that, but
this reminds me a freak. He is a devil straight
from hell, That's.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Why he did it. But there's got to be most killers, Bethany.
They want to hide the body. They bury it, they
put it in the ocean, they weighed it down with
smit Brooks like Scott Peterson did Lacy. This guy left
her remains in public parks for children to find.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
Now shrink that focus focus well, I.
Speaker 7 (35:56):
Think somehow that was sexually exciting to him, just like
sexual sadism. You and I often talk about where the
perpetrator inflicts cruelty in order to increase sexual arousal, that
this is just prolonging the crime, and it's sort of
exciting to scatter these parts all over the community and
to imagine what their reactions will be. This is a
(36:18):
little guy who can't get a job at his own
father's store. He's small in life, he's small and stature,
he's small psychologically, and this is the only way he
can get excitement. Is this form of thrill seeking. It
actually reminds me Nancy who free I.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
Got to go to Miss Garborough, Miss Garborough.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
Just the thought of this devil after what he did
to Shah Day then taking her body part and lee
what on a kid's slide at the playground and somehow
enjoying that. I don't understand how anybody can be so
(37:04):
evil And he's not crazy.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
He's not crazy, he's sane.
Speaker 5 (37:09):
It's a sex son of a I'm sorry, excuse my language.
Speaker 6 (37:13):
I can that this is I don't even know how
I'm present to be able to be here and discuss
these things with you. But again, my community needs to
be aware and they need to know what's going on.
They need to be watching out for their kids. Look
what type of individual justice? Why would you harm my baby?
She hurt nobody. She was angelic, She put out good energy,
(37:35):
She helped others. He was there for the community. She
was there for the elders, the young people, her peers.
She was constantly giving back. There is something deeper into this,
but the truth is going to be told.
Speaker 5 (37:51):
We are worthy for a jury, the trial dury. I
want justice for Shutte. I want the truth to be told.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
Now we are learning this spoiled Bratt Maxwell Anderson, aged
thirty three, working part time and to get pick up
a job, turned his cell phone off.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
Sounds a lot like Brian Koberger at the same time
Shai Day was murdered. Let me go very quickly to
doctor Kendall Crowns before I get off on the cell phone.
And what it means that coincidentally, he turned his phone
off at the exact time Shaide was killed. Doctor Kendall Crowns,
(38:32):
How difficult is it to dismember a human body?
Speaker 3 (38:40):
I mean, this was his plan all along. He told
the CI that and he did it.
Speaker 16 (38:45):
So it depends on how you dismember the individual. If
you cut at joint spaces, like along the wrists or
the elbow or the shoulder, you can actually pull the
limb off quite easily. But if you start cutting in
the midshaft of the bone itself, it's very hard to
get through the bone. So if you know what you're doing,
(39:07):
you can dismember an individual quite quickly. But if you're
focusing on.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
Wait, if you know what you're doing, did you just
say that I'm sorry?
Speaker 12 (39:16):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (39:17):
Did you just say If you know what you're doing,
you can dismember a human very quickly.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
Okay, well let's just go Let.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
Me just again go out on a limb and pretend
this is his first time dismembering someone.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
How do you know what he's doing, Well, if.
Speaker 16 (39:31):
He has any background in hunting or cooking or anything
like that where he's worked with chickens, if you understand
where the joint spaces are you can dismember an individual
quite quickly. But again, if you don't understand that, and you.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
Say what do you mean by quickly?
Speaker 1 (39:47):
I thank you, and I are in two different time
space continuums. What do you mean you can dismember a
body relatively quickly?
Speaker 16 (39:55):
Again, you can take the if you go for the
joint spaces, you can take each arm off.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
Each What is quickly? What is quickly to doctor Kendall Crowns,
What does that mean to you? How quicker can you
dismember under an hour? Wait, I'm not talking about Dexter.
It takes an hour for one one episode of Dexter,
and that's starter to finish Alpha omega.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
Soup to nuts.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
You're telling me a body can be dismembered by an
amateur in an hour.
Speaker 16 (40:29):
Well, by an amateur, it'd probably take over an hour,
maybe longer, maybe several hours. Again, it's just what is
their knowledge base for taking a part limbs?
Speaker 1 (40:41):
Okay, well I'm going to go with what you just said.
Dr Bethany Marshall. The dismemberment of this little girl was
part of his fantasy.
Speaker 3 (40:54):
Yes, I bet you he dragged it out.
Speaker 1 (40:57):
The placing of the body parts on the kid's life.
So it's almost more than I can take, can't. I
hate to even say it in front of miss Shehena Nacy.
Speaker 3 (41:05):
I didn't want to say this in front of missus Robinson.
Speaker 7 (41:08):
I don't want to be offensive.
Speaker 3 (41:09):
But this was a sexually motivated crime.
Speaker 7 (41:11):
This is a beautiful young woman, and torturing her, dragging
this out, dismembering her, all of those acts of cruelty
were to enhance his sexual arousal. But Nancy then placing
the body parts around, shocking other people, it's the element
of shock that made him sexually excited. So this guy
(41:32):
is just prolonging the crime, and he probably built up
to it for a long long time. Even in terms
of the dismembering. I would look at his computer and
see if he googled how to do that, because he
was already planning to do it.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
Now it's a matter of sentencing. Can't these sentences be
stacked life plus twenty plus twenty plus twenty life for
the murder, twenty for the arson, twenty for tampering with
the corpse, and so on and so on. I want
to make sure he never sees the light of day again.
(42:06):
We wait as justice unfolds, and God bless the family
of Sunday Robinson.
Speaker 3 (42:17):
Goodbye friend,
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