When Iowa TV news anchor Jodi Huisentruit fails to show up for her morning show, coworkers know something is wrong. Huisentruit's red Mazda Miata is still in the parking lot, as well as other evidence that suggests a struggle had taken place near the car. Her personal items, a hairdryer, lipstick, and red high heel shoes, as well as a bent car key, were strewn about the area.
Police recovered an unidentified palm print from her vehicle. Neighbors report hearing screams at about the time that Huisentruit would have been leaving for work. The popular TV personality is still missing more than two decades later. Search warrants issued at the time for a personal of interest have now been partially unsealed.
Joining Nancy Grace today:
- Joann Nathe - Victim's Sister
- Wendy Patrick - California prosecutor, Author: “Red Flags” www.wendypatrickphd.com 'Today with Dr. Wendy' on KCBQ in San Diego
- Dr. Jorey Krawczyn - Police Psychologist, Adjunct Faculty with Saint Leo University; Research Consultant with Blue Wall Institute, Author: Operation S.O.S. - Practical Recommendations to Help “Stop Officer Suicide”
- Jay Alberio - Former Commander, 27 Years Woodbury Police Department, Former Investigative Unit Manager for Woodbury Public Safety, FindJodi.com, Former U.S. Marine Corps
- Caroline Lowe - Investigative Journalist, FindJodi.com, "Find Jodi Podcast" CarolineLoweTV on Twitter/Instagram/Facebook
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, a beautiful and beloved news
anchor seemingly vanishes on her way to the newsroom for
her morning appearance on air. But now her family, grieving
share a new and very disturbing theory. I'm Nancy Grace,
(00:26):
this is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us.
Before dawn. In the early morning on June twenty seven,
Jody Who's in Truth, woke up by the phone ringing.
The twenty seven year old was groggy and disoriented. She
reached for the receiver in her Mason City, Iowa apartment.
(00:48):
On the other end, her producer at KIMT News, who
told her it was past four am. She needed to
hurry and get into the newsroom. Who's the Truth did hurry,
got together and raced out to her car. She was
due on air within the hour for her morning show
called Daybreak, But when the producer, Amy Kuons tried again
(01:11):
to call Jody, she got only an answering machine, a
fill in to the air, and the search was on
for Jody Hu's instrut. In the last days, her family
reveals their stunning fear, Their fear, their gut feeling is
(01:31):
that someone became obsessed with Jody from watching her on TV,
thinking she's so beautiful, she's so articulate, she can be
so funny, that that is my ideal woman, according to family.
Family believes that this unknown stalker may not have intended
(01:55):
for Jody to die, but maybe everything just went wrong.
What do we know about those early morning hours when
Jody Who's in true seemingly vanished off the face of
the earth and what clues are left behind.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Today's forecast shows mostly windy and cool temperatures with scattered
showers are high as expected to be in the upper sixties.
The clouds will continue through this evening. Showers will end,
but the windy and cool temperatures will prevail.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Same clude State's increase enrollment.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Has not been enough to make Eastman's not Listener take
on any dramatic changes this year, but the telegrapher Marien Slater,
I am Jody who was in Truth for you TBS News.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Just hearing her voice seemingly makes this all so real.
Now you're hearing Jody's voice when she was a student
reporter at Saint Cloud University for the campus TV station,
University TV, and she went on from there to become
a rising star in the TV industry, really making her mark.
(02:57):
The viewers were enthralled by her. They gravitated torture, not
just because of her good looks, not just because she
was prepared and articulate, but she had a warmth about
her that seemingly went out across the airwaves to everybody watching.
(03:18):
Beloved in her market, until suddenly she just goes missing.
Let me introduce to you an all star panel to
help figure out where is Jody Husing Shrewd. First of all,
the tip line nine seven zero four or five eight
Jody Jodi nine seven zero four five eight five six
(03:41):
three four with me Jay Alberio, former Commander, Woodbury Police Department,
Investigative Unit Manager, Woodbury Public Safety, former US marine. You
can find him right now at Findjody dot com. Doctor Jorykrasin, psychologist,
Faculties Saying Leo University consultant and author of Operation SS
(04:05):
with me. Wendy Patrick, California prosecutor, author of Red Flags.
You can find her at wendypatrickphd dot com and she's
the host of Today with Doctor Wendy on kcb Q,
San Diego. Investigative journalist. You can also find her at
Fine Jody dot com and she is the founder of
the Fine Jody podcast. She's also a Caroline Low TV.
(04:29):
Caroline Low joining us, But first to a very special
guest joining us. This is Jody's sister, Joanne Nathy. Joanne,
thank you for being with us.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
Well, thank you again for having me, Jillianne.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
It's unfathomable to me how someone that is so present
in the lives of her local TV community can just disappear.
It's like someone just cut off the TV and she's gone,
and that the end of it. It seems very very surreal.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
Yeah, we never, you know, anticipate anything like this ever happening.
We thought Jody would be safe in Mason City. It
wasn't that big of a community, and she just she
took a lot of safety courses and stuff, and she
she was careful, she really was. She wanted to have
a good reputation in the community. And yeah, we were
(05:28):
just stunned. I mean when it happened in ninety five,
and of course it's been really hard and everybody, not
just the family, it's friends. She meant a lot to
so many people.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Do you remember when you first learned Jody was missing?
Speaker 4 (05:45):
Yeah, I remember it very well. What happened, well, we
were on a bus trip up north, my mom and
aunt just oh, with the group of ladies, you know,
and we were going to this casino because ninety five
the casinos well they had started prior to ninety five.
But anyway, it was going to be a fun day.
(06:08):
And so we were up in Walker, Minnesota, and then
they asked us to come to the room when we
got there and that there was an emergency phone call.
It was shortly after we arrived, and so we came
in and they said it's from Mason City. And right
away my mom said, oh, no, Jody. And we thought
maybe she'd been in a car accident.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
That's what I thought.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
And she'll be okay, you know, she'll But then when
Halverson said, oh, she's missing, Joanne, are you sitting down?
And I said missing, Well, we'll find her, you know,
there's some mistake. Why would she be missing, you know.
But then we got pretty nervous and about it all,
(06:50):
of course, and we left. They provided a vehicle for
us to go back to Long Purrie. They brought us.
It was quite a drive too, but yeah, it was
very hard. And then we got back and nobody had
found her, you know, by the end of the day,
and so then we were getting very worried. But we
thought it'd be that it was some kind of a mistake,
that she would be found and she'd be okay. That
(07:13):
was their original thought, you.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Know, to doctor Jory Kraus in psychologist Faculty, Saint Leo
University joining us doctor Drury, I know I'm projecting right now,
but I've also seen it with many, many other crime victims.
When I first was told my fiance it was dead,
at first, I thought there was some kind of a
(07:37):
mix up and if I could just get to him,
I could fix it, and I could get him to
the hospital and everything would be okay. I thought there
had been a car crash, just like what joe Ane
Nathee is saying about Jodie Houston truth and I know
you hear her saying, well, we thought it was a
car accident. Then we thought missing, well, there's just some
mix that we're going to fix this. Why is our mind?
(07:59):
Where are our mind go to something that we can comprehend?
Like I couldn't comprehend that Keith have been shot five
times in the face and the neck and the head
in the back, that was hard for me. That would
never have occurred to me, that that could have happened.
Just like with Joe and Nathy, Jody's sister, she really thought, oh,
(08:20):
there's been a car crash missing. What this is wrong?
We're going to We're going to get this all straightened out.
Why is that? What is that?
Speaker 6 (08:29):
It starts off as like a protective mechanism for ourselves,
you know, to try to make some positive sense out
of it. You know, the term we use is closure,
and it's not like closing up the you know, the event,
but it's trying to make sense out of ambiguity. And
you know, you think of, well maybe it was a
(08:51):
car accident, They're okay, they're going to be found. You
continue to put the positive perspective on it, and it
helps kind of keep you stable. Lies so as you
take in more information, you can you know, better assess
it and apply it to the situation.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Is there some sort of a defense mechanism, Well, I
call it.
Speaker 6 (09:13):
More of a protective mechanism, you know, trying to keep
you know, that stress level down so you can keep
a rational cognitive process going on with the information that
you're taking in. You know, some people they react, you know,
just where they totally break down and you know they're
not able to do anything.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Yeah, I take a listen to our friend Ross Cugis
KSTP TV son and I just woken her up.
Speaker 7 (09:41):
Amy Coons called Jody's apartment at four a m. The
morning Jody disappeared.
Speaker 8 (09:46):
I wondered if anything was going on, like maybe somebody
was in her apartment now, I listened.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
For other voices.
Speaker 7 (09:52):
Jody had said she had overslept and would be right
in at four twenty that morning. Tenant's here screens in
the parking lot. Jody has never heard from again.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Caroline Load founded a podcast called Find Jody Podcast. You
can find her also at Caroline Low TV. Caroline, thank
you for being with us. You've been on the case
for some time. Let's start at the beginning. What do
we know of the last time that Jody was seen alive?
No wait, no, let's start with the scene. Let's start
(10:21):
with her place where she was what do we know?
Speaker 9 (10:23):
What we know is it appears that whatever happened to
Jody happened in the parking lot right adjacent to her building.
It looks like they're about twelve steps from Jody's building
to her car that she was most likely ambushed attack
from behind.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Okay, right, are you talking about her building where she
lived or her building where she where she lived.
Speaker 9 (10:41):
We're talking from where she was running late. As we
heard Amy Koons, her producer say, she was running late
and so she's rushing to her car. She's carrying her
things she needs to.
Speaker 10 (10:51):
Get ready her work.
Speaker 9 (10:52):
Most likely her hair was wet being so late, and
she had a blow dryer with her. Somebody attacked her
from behind, and from all signs that we can tell,
there were signs of a struggle. She was dragged easterly
according to the police.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
You know what, I got to break everything down that
you're saying. I got to go through it one fact
at a time and digest it and trying to make
sense of it. Guys were talking about a beautiful TV
anchor that goes missing. Jody Hu's in truth. Take a
listen to our friend Jim Axelrod.
Speaker 11 (11:25):
The anchor of KIMT six am newscast. She usually arrived
at work by three point thirty in the morning.
Speaker 8 (11:32):
If she's not there between three thirty and fogg, you
were calls a hey, are you awake?
Speaker 11 (11:37):
Producer Amy Koons noticed nothing unusual, and she called and
whooped Jody up about ten after four that morning.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
She was asking about the show. She was concerned about
the show, and she said, I'll be right there.
Speaker 11 (11:50):
But at five point thirty, still know Jody, and this
being a time before cell phones, Amy tried her at
home again and got her answering machine. At six am,
Amy had a step up and deliver the news in
Jody's place.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
She loves her show.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
She got it her show. You know she wouldn't miss
it for anything.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
The police were called shortly after seven. When they arrived
at Jody's.
Speaker 11 (12:13):
Apartment, she wasn't home, but they found her shoes, hair
dryer and keys scattered on the ground near her beloved
red Mazda Miata.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
You are hearing our friend Jim Axelrod at fine Jody,
CBS forty eight hours the search on for Jodie Houston Street.
Let me go back to Caroline Love, investigative journalist. Caroline.
Let's start again at the beginning. Now you're telling me
she was leaving. You believe she was leaving her apartment
building that morning. She was running a little late for work.
(12:42):
Her hair was still wet because she had a hair
dryer with you with her. I assume that was standing
in the parking lot. You're telling me she was only
twelve feet out from her apartment or twelve feet from
her vehicle, And how would you know she was dragged behind?
Speaker 9 (12:58):
That information came years ago from police, a police investigator.
She was dragged easterly. They saw marks in the silt,
if you will, and they believed that that's what happened.
That she was strigg easterly most toward Kentucky Avenue, which
is the main road going by the Key Apartments where
Jody lived with me.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Former Commander twenty seven years Woodbury Police Department, Jay Alberiro, Jay,
tell me what you know of the morning Jody goes missing.
Speaker 10 (13:25):
An examination of the photos that the media had, the
information that the Mason City Police had put out there
in the past. So based on all that, my interpretation
and from the facts is that Jody was at her
car and it appears that she was attempting to put
(13:45):
the key in the door lock to open the door
to her car when she was grabbed more likely from behind,
because there's indications or the key that she had was bent,
which tells me that she had to keep in the
door lock when she was grabbed, so the force of
somebody grabbing her pushed her towards the front of the
(14:07):
car possibly and bent that key. And also the driver's
side mirror on the door was also bent forward, and
again that indicates there's a struggle taking place and the
perpetrator has grabbed her and has taken her towards the
front of the car, away from her apartment building. You know,
(14:29):
and the examination we've been down there, We've driven through
the parking lot and looked at the scene, because the
scene will tell you volumes of what happened, and it's
a very tight parking lot where that's.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Really interesting to Wndy Patrick, prosecutor, author of Red Flags
at wendypatricktphd dot com. Wendy, I never was so arrogant
as to try a case in front ofly jury without
having gone to this scene. In fact, very typically obsessively
(15:04):
gone to the scene many, many times, often on my
off time, looking at it, trying to make sense, reenacting
in my mind what happened. Who could see what or
not see? And in court, Wendy, it made all the
difference because I've had many defense witnesses take the stand
(15:27):
under oath and state what they saw or didn't see,
and into my knowledge of the scene makes it very
easy to say something like, well, wait a minute, isn't
there a big tree and a hedge around the building,
So you're saying you could see through the hedge what
happened at the front door. Is that what you're telling me?
(15:50):
You have to know this scene and we're just hearing
that from Jay Alberia.
Speaker 5 (15:53):
Yeah, no, that's huge. And I usually go as soon
as possible when after the prime was committed, because, especially
in a case like this where you have an incident
in the morning, you want to know when exactly the
sun came up, when people would be out walking their dogs,
when you'd see the joggers, when you would be able
to have seen the evidence left behind. You know, we
all know the first few hours after a kidnapping or
(16:13):
an abduction are the most critical, the most crucial, because
that's when the bad guy or whoever abducted the victim
is able to make the escape. So yes, and you're
also right, it gives you enhanced credibility in front of
not just the jury but also the judge to where
you are the one in the courtroom that has done
your homework, You've been there and you're in the best
position to be asking these questions.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
It also helps you catch liars. But in this case,
we're hearing Jay Alberiro and Caroline Low describe what happened,
and the scenario is really important. Now, what have I learned?
I've learned that she was most likely attacked from behind?
What does that mean? Somebody she didn't know, Somebody that
felt they had to sneak up on her, in the
(16:56):
sense that maybe it was someone she did know, but
they had bad dealings so they had to sneak up
on her. It tells me that she fought tooth and nail,
that she had almost made it to her car, because
we're here Alberio describing how the key to the car
was bent. So Jesse she had gotten it in and
it was pulled away with such force it bent the key.
(17:21):
Now we are hypothesizing what happened, but there's a lot
of evidence to prove that. Take a listen to reporterly
with ABC six kaa l what happened to Jody.
Speaker 12 (17:33):
Outside of Jody's apartment, investigators found evidence of a struggle,
her personal items scattered in the parking lot, jewelry, shoes,
and a bag near her red convertible, and perhaps one.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Of the most important pieces of evidence, a broken key.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
As Jody's mourning producer morning assistant producer, I was the
last one to speak with her before she disappeared.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Ammy Coons was working that morning Jody disappeared. She tells police.
Speaker 12 (17:58):
Jody was often late for work, and that morning she
called Jody and says Jody.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Answered and told her she was on her way in.
We still have our jobs to do and I just
got to get the show.
Speaker 12 (18:08):
Yere Coons went on to anchor that morning in Jody's place.
It wasn't until hours later that a phone call was
made by the station.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
To police that Jody never arrived to work.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Oh man, man, that is critical to Joanne Nathy, this
is Jody's sister. They didn't call for how many hours?
Those are critical hours in finding Jody.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
Yes, that's true. I'm sure they just well, maybe she
overslept and she would be in That's what I've understood it.
But it was critical time period. It's too bad that
they didn't call, but you know.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
It happened. Those cards were dealt and we're working with
what we've got.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
Certainly, Amy Coons never thought that Jody was being obressd accepted,
of course, just thought she had overslipt, you know.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Crime stories with Nancy Grace. According to a gorgeous young
TV anchor's family, they are convinced someone became obsessed with
Jody who's instrup from watching her on TV and deciding
that's the woman for me. Maybe not intentionally harming Jody,
(19:36):
but they believe a kidnap attempt went wrong. What happened
that morning? Caroline Loath, isn't it correct that, you know,
I heard another coworker say that Jody was never late
to work, so I've got a conflicting report on that. Well,
is that significant? Yes, because if she was never late
(19:56):
to work as she was late this morning, that is
what we call quote routine evidence, evidence of habit or routine.
It's very hard to break, you know, when you're in
the TV business. You can't be one minute late or
there'll be an empty chair sitting there. You need. If
you're fifteen minutes early, you're late. So I'm curious about that,
(20:17):
and I'm also curious the coworker said Caroline that they
called her and she said, I'm on the way. Is
that correct?
Speaker 9 (20:26):
We have no information otherwise and that's what police are reported,
So will we guess guessing that they checked the records
to verify that. But to back to Amy, Amy said
that she was basically crashing to get the show on.
She was initially just kind of angry at Todi that
she'd overslept, and she told maybe it's just.
Speaker 10 (20:43):
The other day.
Speaker 9 (20:44):
One of her biggest series was she would lose her
job if she didn't get that show produced and on
the air.
Speaker 10 (20:49):
Yeah, she never imagined.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Yeah, she's right about that, because people would tune in
and there'll be nothing there. So yeah, she would probably
have lost her job. Another question, she to Caroline Low,
very often I would take clothes, shoes, makeup, whatever jewelry
(21:11):
that I was going to wear it that night with
me in my hands, in a bag and a backpack,
fold it up with me. So I'm assuming that everything
that was found in the parking lot. When we hear
hair dry or shoes and all that, that doesn't mean
they came off for feet. That means to me that's
what she was going to wear onto the air. Guys,
(21:31):
we're talking about Jody, who's in truth just twenty seven
years old. That goes missing seemingly into thin air. So,
Caroline Low, what can you tell me about all the
items that were scattered in the parking lot.
Speaker 9 (21:43):
What we know is there are a pair of red
high heels, which would seem to suggest that Jody was
likely wearing something with red or all red that day.
We don't know exactly. As far as we know, what
she was wearing has never been found. There was hairspray,
there was a blow dryer, There are earrings, so the
basics of what you would wear to go on the air.
What's missing is a bag that she carried it in.
(22:03):
We've never heard anything about whether that was located. Presumably
Jody did not run to her car carrying all these
things in her arms doesn't make sense. So where is
that bag? Where's the purse that she normally would have had.
We don't know.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
And we also know that she was in a hurry
because she was running late, so she may have grabbed
things and then they came out of her hands. But
I find that also odd. Why would she have be
carrying earrings and other things in her hands and trying
to open up the car door. Guys, take a listen
to our cut seven A This is Brian Master evening
(22:36):
anchor k imt listen.
Speaker 13 (22:38):
Jody wasn't there, and so an associate producer, Amy Koons
calls Jody at her apartment. Jody sounded as though she
had just woke up and told Amy, Okay, I'm getting around.
I'll be in.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
So then the time passes, It's.
Speaker 13 (22:54):
Now four point thirty, it's now five, Amy, I'm assuming
always thought, well, probably just sell back sleep. Jody not
coming in right on time wasn't necessarily unusual from talking
to the people who worked in the morning. She wasn't
always right on time. The show starts at six o'clock
(23:14):
without Jody, and so it was just a few minutes
after seven o'clock, right after she had gotten off the air,
Amy Coons calls Mason City Police for a welfare check.
Speaker 9 (23:22):
Maytay, can I clarify something there? Yes, Ample didn't make
the Amy did not make the phone call. Amy was
still sitting on this set at the seven o'clock when
the show ended, a co worker came in. She asked
the coworker to call police because she still had to
do a morning update.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
So a co.
Speaker 9 (23:37):
Worker called the police at seven point thirteen. First officers
arrived on the scene at seven sixteen.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Interesting. That makes me feel a little bit better about
the timeline because the whole day hasn't passed. Take a
listen to more of our friends at Kaimt listen.
Speaker 13 (23:53):
Mason City Police found Jody's car in the parking lot
in the apartment complex, was maybe twenty feet twenty five
feet from the front door.
Speaker 14 (24:02):
They did find her car in the parking lot and
or who she had been.
Speaker 13 (24:06):
Found a bench if you see that scattered, a keybent
in her fairly new car. There's a palm print on
the car. There's a struggle. She's been abducted. She's probably
still alive. There's a three hour window in between the
phone call and the welfare check, and that's a lot
(24:28):
of time for somebody to do something and get away.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
That is conventional wisdom. If someone is killed in an induction,
very often the first three hours or the critical that's
the critical window in which you have a chance to
save the person. Straight out to doctor Jory Crawls in
Psychologists Faculty, Saint Leo University. You know, another wrinkle in
this case is that Jodie Hughson truth was in everybody's
(24:54):
living rooms and bedrooms and dens and kitchens all across
the viewing area. People thought thought that they knew her.
Not only that, there are a lot of people out
there that, for instance, I know this sounds crazy, doctor Jory,
that think you're sending them non verbal messages or that
(25:16):
you are speaking to them in code in some way.
Of course, these people have mental issues, but they believe,
for instance, somebody young and beautiful like JODI's Huston's Truth
is actually in love with them. It happens quite often, doctor.
Speaker 15 (25:32):
Yes, it does with you know, celebrities or anybody that's
in the public light of you know, I guess all
the reporters that can kind.
Speaker 6 (25:42):
Of relate to that. But the one thing is that
you know, from the psychological perspective of who did this,
I mean, it seemed to be pretty well planned out,
and most people that you know either have those kind
of delusions, I mean, they can still plan it out well,
but committing it to this degree of almost perfection. You know,
(26:04):
it was that time of day, early in the morning,
they had to wait. She was late. I mean, there's
a lot of things that you know, what we don't
have answers.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
For and I'm assuming to you, Caroline Low that there
were no security cameras in the parking lot.
Speaker 9 (26:19):
No security cameras, and as far as we know, no eyewitnesses.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Oh man, of course, to you, Jay Alberio, it was
so early in the morning that she was leaving. Correct,
what time was it?
Speaker 10 (26:30):
We just made from the information it was about four
thirty in the morning.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Yeah, there's not a lot of people out and about
at four thirty in the morning. Take a listen to
our forensic kimt.
Speaker 13 (26:39):
The search for Jodie was immedia. The response was overwhelming.
I mean, she's in your living room every morning. In
Mason City and the surrounding communities, people feel as though
they know you men. So everybody wanted to help. You
had dogs, you had psychics. You had so many people
looking just to see if they could find clues.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Joey and Nathan, this is Jody's sister. Do you remember
the use of psychics trying to find Jody.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
Oh yeah, we had telephone calls and we were on
a show with psychics too at the beginning. Could I
clarify something that always bugs me that I hear them
say like I heard this morning again that she was
late many times for work, and I never had that
impression of a few times she was late for work.
But Jody was very conscientious about her job. I mean,
(27:31):
she wanted perfection. I would not say she was late
many times. A few times she was a little late.
Probably she did jam pack her day's way too much.
She worked, stayed up late writing thank you notes, and
you know she just used every hour.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
I don't know, you know, And I was trying to
clear that earlier Joe and Nathe. Through my research and
investigation of the case, I found other co workers that
said she was never late or really late.
Speaker 4 (27:59):
She was so condentious. But no, she was late a
few times. I'm sure.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Yeah, I'm glad you said that, because I don't like
the impression that leaves, and more important, it factors into
what happened that morning, because she told the co worker,
I'm up, I'm on the way here.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
I count And I'm sure she was very nervous at
that point because she was so conscientious.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
I'm sure take a listen as Brian Master kimt.
Speaker 13 (28:25):
Free neighbors apparently heard screams that morning, and none of
them are able to really give an indicator about what
those screams were about.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Crime stories with Nancy Grace. Was Jodie, who's in truth
kidnapped by a stalker, someone that became obsessed from watching
her on TV. That is the gut wrenching theory. Her
family believes what other clues were left behind to Wendy Patcheck,
(29:08):
California prosecutor, author of Red Flags, and hosters Today with
doctor Wendy k c b Q in San Diego. Wendy,
you know, a timeline can start with something seemingly innocuous,
and I will refer to a really good example where
in the Nicole Brown Ron Goldman double murder, the neighbors
(29:33):
were first alerted by the dog. I believe the dog's
same was Akida's, as they say, mournful or plaintive. Well,
that really started the timeline in the middle of the night,
and here the neighbors hear these screams. Wendy, that's right.
Speaker 5 (29:51):
And you know a lot of people would have called
the police right away upon hearing those screams, and a
timeline would also include people that were up at six am.
This was a morning a she was in the morning
rooms of the breakfast tables across this small town where
more people were likely to know her, to recognize her,
to know her name. It also, when you talk about
a timeline, you would want to know if she had
(30:13):
a stalker. And I've prosecuted several men who have stalked
news anchors specifically, but they were news anchors that were
on when they were awake. So that timeline would also
sweep in everyone that would necessarily have seen her, have
seen something, who would have been up, who know who
she is, because they would have been awakened in a
position to be not only sharp many people are sharper
(30:34):
in the morning, but also in a position to notice
something out of the ordinary, like those screams that, as
you point out, really starts that timeline.
Speaker 14 (30:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
I mean if you hear a scream at four thirty
five o'clock in the morning, and there's a big difference
of hearing the neighbor calling the dog and a woman screaming.
I'm very surprised no one called police, But you know what, again,
that's what we're working with. They did not take a
Listen now to Ross's Cherry at k STP.
Speaker 7 (31:02):
TV, Jody's closest friends in Mason City are for the
first time talking about their suspicions.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
Because it could possibly be someone that we know.
Speaker 16 (31:13):
All with all the times I've talked to detectives, they
feel that someone's doctor watched her, know what her schedule
was and was.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
Definitely going to plan on doing something that morning.
Speaker 7 (31:25):
Right up to her disappearance, this group of people socialized
with Jody. As they realized Jody's abductor might not be
a stranger, they grew uncomfortable with one of their friends.
Speaker 8 (31:35):
You see signals you may not have seen that make
me think that there is always a possibility that could
be somebody that we we know.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
Now take a listen to Brian Mastri and Beth Bednor,
former anchor from k I M T A k A
a L, speaking to our friends at ID.
Speaker 13 (31:56):
Investigators start to zero in on someone who was with
Jody the night before. They knew that she had been
with a friend twenty years her senior, John van Seiss.
Speaker 14 (32:07):
John Vansiss is considerably older than her. Recently divos and
booked to Mason City. You've spent a lot of time together.
Two weeks time to her disappearance, John had a birthday
party for her to celebrate her twenty seventh birthday.
Speaker 13 (32:22):
It seems as though he was the last one to
see Jody alive too.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Caroline Love investigative journalists and you can find her at
find Jody dot com, Find Jody podcast and Caroline low TV. Caroline,
who is this guy? And so he's the last one
to see her alive the night before.
Speaker 9 (32:41):
That's what he says. His name is John van Seiss.
He was twenty two years older than Jody, and just
two days earlier that weekend, he and several of Jody's
friends had gotten together in northern Iowa to go on
a water skiing trip. Actually writes about him in her journal.
The last thing she writes about two days before she disappeared,
talks about what a great time she had with John
(33:02):
van Seiss her other friends Annie Cruz and Tammy Baker.
So he's an older friend who spent a lot of
time with her in the last couple months before she disappeared.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
And to you, Jay Alberia, a former commander of Woodbury
Police Apartment. Jay did he he worked with her in
what capacity?
Speaker 10 (33:19):
No, John Vancize did not work with her. With Jody,
there are acquaintances. As far as we know, John had
lived in the apartment complex at one time. That's possibly
where he met Jody that became friends. Had a mutual
interest in water skiing and John had a boat, so
John was taking her water skiing and we believed that
(33:41):
he was also helping her learn how to water ski.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
To Joey and Nathy, what was her relationship with John
van Seiss.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
Well, actually I didn't know about the guy till this
all happened. She had mentioned to my mom. My mom
cautioned hers that she was not really dating this guy,
but he was a friend and they know and stuff,
and my mom said, well, you better be careful because
you know he might be getting romantically interested in you. Oh,
we're just good friends, Jody would say, you know, and
(34:12):
so but I after hearing about after it all happened,
we know that he was quite obsessed with Jody.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
Why did you say that?
Speaker 4 (34:20):
Oh, just he wanted always be around her and he
wanted to you know. He said he even named his
boat after her, which was odd. And the friends knew
that too, and they cautioned Jody. They said, Jody, are
you sure that John isn't more interested in you than
you think? And it was just very obvious that he
(34:43):
that he has been was very interested in her.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Yeah, as a matter of fact, you're absolutely correct, Joeyne Nathan,
this is Jody's sister in joining us. Take a listen
to Mary McGuire k I m t forcibly the role.
Speaker 17 (34:57):
Of both journalist and friend Robin wolf from ordered on
the disappearance. Even interviewing the man who Jody was seen
with last what was his demeanor like.
Speaker 8 (35:06):
A joyful almost strangely happy and telling me how he
named his boat after and how he just loved her.
Speaker 17 (35:14):
She has no doubt in her mind that man, an
older gentleman who is friends with Jody, is the one
responsible for her disappearance.
Speaker 8 (35:21):
I cautioned Jody about their friendship in television.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
We have a gut incident about things.
Speaker 8 (35:28):
My gut and my instinct tells me that he's responsible.
Speaker 17 (35:34):
But Wolfram isn't the only one who shares those same
suspicions about him. Last March find Jody dot Com, a
website dedicated to the case, reported Mason City police served
him with a search warrant seeking GPS data on two
of his cars.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
Straight out to Caroline Low, Caroline, what can you tell
me about the source warrant served on this guy? This
much older gentleman twenty two years her senior, that a
currently was besotted with her.
Speaker 9 (36:02):
The search warrants occurred in twenty seventeen, and while what
the police were seeking was two vehicles associated with John
van Seiss, vehicles that he did not have back in
nineteen ninety five, they weren't manufactured till a few years later.
We don't know specifically what they were seeking their probable
cause statement, the affidavit is not public. What we do know,
(36:24):
as they said, is they were after she disappeared. The
possible theory is that they were seeking to see if
maybe he was going to some kind of a crime
scene when he was back in Iowa. He was subpoened
before a federal grand jury in that same month, where
he was ordered to provide palm prints, fingerprints, and DNA sample.
But we don't know, and the chief later said it
(36:46):
did not produce any evidence.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
I'm guessing Wendy Patrick that they would want to compare.
He has not been named as a suspect. Number one.
Let's just state that any potential palm prints or fingerprints
is something found on that car.
Speaker 5 (37:00):
Oh absolutely, and you know the Joe Anne and your
other guests what we've done is we bumped the timeline
back to even the night before. So you talk about
that palm print, where it came from, who might have
made it. Now we're sweeping in people that may have
seen her within even the last twelve hours. And yes,
you know forensics, I know this happens a long time ago,
but we still today had some of what we had
(37:21):
even back then. Google fashion forensics, especially in a case
like this where that's all that they had left at
the scene. There was no footage or cell phone pinging
like we do nowadays. A pall print like that would
have been an enormous piece of evidence.
Speaker 18 (37:34):
It's a new information has come out from that twenty
seventeen search warrant which shows the GPS tracking data of
a car owned by that person of interest. He died
December of last year. The data tracks a vehicle during
the four day span as it traveled from Baxter, Iowa,
through Missouri, Kansas, Oklahoma, Texas, and New Mexico before stopping
(37:56):
in Phoenix. The rest of the information has not been released.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
It could have been anyone. Everybody in the area knows
Jody who's in truth. They see her every single morning.
Take a listen to Jennifer Austin KA r E eleven.
Speaker 16 (38:11):
Don't think because the world is concerned with other news,
that she's forgotten.
Speaker 19 (38:15):
Caroline Lowe is an investigative journalist and part of the
Find Jody Team, a group of investigators who continued to
look into the unsolved case.
Speaker 20 (38:23):
What happened to Jody.
Speaker 19 (38:25):
They launched a podcast this month on what would have
been Jody's fifty second birthday, hoping to keep eyes on
her story and find answers about what happened the early
morning of June twenty seventh, nineteen ninety five, when Jody
left her apartment late for her job anchoring the morning news.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
America's most highly publicized missing children.
Speaker 3 (38:44):
She never made it.
Speaker 12 (38:45):
She was very easy to follow.
Speaker 16 (38:47):
You knew her schedule anchoring the six Am and New news,
her home number for address or even lists of the
local directory. She would have been very easy to find.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
What could have been done differently? And can there be
a save? Take a listen to our cut sixteen A.
This is Laurley ABC six KAA l listen.
Speaker 20 (39:08):
I can't remember Jodie ever being or late for work.
Speaker 4 (39:12):
She's a professional journalism journalist.
Speaker 12 (39:15):
Then general manager John Shine seen during a press conference
later that day, describing a very different Jody, a devoted
employee who took her job seriously.
Speaker 20 (39:24):
I've made it clear this case is not going to
go away for us.
Speaker 12 (39:28):
For many decades, this case has puzzled the Mason City
Police Department. What do you think you, as chief can
do different than the chiefs prior to you that have
had this case under their tail and nothing has come about.
Speaker 20 (39:40):
I'm not going to sit here in second guess decisions
made officers in the field twenty five years ago about
what they did. I will tell you that I don't
believe that any of them probably thought that we would
still be working this case today.
Speaker 12 (39:53):
Chief Jeff Brankley says bringing a fresh pair of eyes
to the case could help.
Speaker 20 (39:57):
Cold cases I think are of interest to a lot
of people. It's obviously a case that affected Mason City,
and so if we could put some closure to that,
I'm interested in doing that.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
To Caroline Low, Investigative journalists find Jody dot com Caroline,
where does it stand now? There was one reporting of
a body found out a Mason City river. We don't
believe it remains. We don't believe that was Jody a
PI popped up and said he had information that he
is still not shared with anyone in the family. Have
(40:29):
there been any developments, Caroline that we could really sink
our teeth into.
Speaker 9 (40:34):
Nancy, I really wish I could say there were, and
we get tips all the time at find Jody dot com,
but we have no information that authorities, anybody is any
closer to finding Jody, Hues and Troup today than they
were years ago.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
To Joeanne Nathan, this is Jody's sister, Joanne, what is
your most vivid memory of your sister Jody.
Speaker 4 (40:57):
Well, she was always still very caring about us, so
I just wanted us to be happy. That was a
big interest, you know. If she was working at a
resort and her time off, she did invite us up
to use the facilities, and oh she was just so bubbly.
She has personality. Plus you know, she probably didn't have
the best speaking ability necessarily, but all her personality on
(41:19):
the air just came through. I know, Doug Murbrick told
me the ratings were very high and one thing though,
she revealed too much about her personal life on the
air also, but that's you know, Jody.
Speaker 5 (41:31):
She was so.
Speaker 4 (41:32):
Personable with everyone, and people felt they really really knew her.
And all you need is somebody who was not playing
with a full deck to become obsessed and sitting and
listening to her daily routine. She would often talk where
she went jogging and what activity she was going to
do that day, and she probably went. She probably did
(41:54):
too much of that on the air and it was
too personable, but they liked it. The viewers loved it.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
Find Jody dot com We Wait as Justice unfolds. Goodbye Friends,
M
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, a beautiful and beloved news
anchor seemingly vanishes on her way to the newsroom for
her morning appearance on air. But now her family, grieving
share a new and very disturbing theory. I'm Nancy Grace,
(00:26):
this is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us.
Before dawn. In the early morning on June twenty seven,
Jody Who's in Truth, woke up by the phone ringing.
The twenty seven year old was groggy and disoriented. She
reached for the receiver in her Mason City, Iowa apartment.
(00:48):
On the other end, her producer at KIMT News, who
told her it was past four am. She needed to
hurry and get into the newsroom. Who's the Truth did hurry,
got together and raced out to her car. She was
due on air within the hour for her morning show
called Daybreak, But when the producer, Amy Kuons tried again
(01:11):
to call Jody, she got only an answering machine, a
fill in to the air, and the search was on
for Jody Hu's instrut. In the last days, her family
reveals their stunning fear, Their fear, their gut feeling is
(01:31):
that someone became obsessed with Jody from watching her on TV,
thinking she's so beautiful, she's so articulate, she can be
so funny, that that is my ideal woman, according to family.
Family believes that this unknown stalker may not have intended
(01:55):
for Jody to die, but maybe everything just went wrong.
What do we know about those early morning hours when
Jody Who's in true seemingly vanished off the face of
the earth and what clues are left behind.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Today's forecast shows mostly windy and cool temperatures with scattered
showers are high as expected to be in the upper sixties.
The clouds will continue through this evening. Showers will end,
but the windy and cool temperatures will prevail.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Same clude State's increase enrollment.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Has not been enough to make Eastman's not Listener take
on any dramatic changes this year, but the telegrapher Marien Slater,
I am Jody who was in Truth for you TBS News.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Just hearing her voice seemingly makes this all so real.
Now you're hearing Jody's voice when she was a student
reporter at Saint Cloud University for the campus TV station,
University TV, and she went on from there to become
a rising star in the TV industry, really making her mark.
(02:57):
The viewers were enthralled by her. They gravitated torture, not
just because of her good looks, not just because she
was prepared and articulate, but she had a warmth about
her that seemingly went out across the airwaves to everybody watching.
(03:18):
Beloved in her market, until suddenly she just goes missing.
Let me introduce to you an all star panel to
help figure out where is Jody Husing Shrewd. First of all,
the tip line nine seven zero four or five eight
Jody Jodi nine seven zero four five eight five six
(03:41):
three four with me Jay Alberio, former Commander, Woodbury Police Department,
Investigative Unit Manager, Woodbury Public Safety, former US marine. You
can find him right now at Findjody dot com. Doctor Jorykrasin, psychologist,
Faculties Saying Leo University consultant and author of Operation SS
(04:05):
with me. Wendy Patrick, California prosecutor, author of Red Flags.
You can find her at wendypatrickphd dot com and she's
the host of Today with Doctor Wendy on kcb Q,
San Diego. Investigative journalist. You can also find her at
Fine Jody dot com and she is the founder of
the Fine Jody podcast. She's also a Caroline Low TV.
(04:29):
Caroline Low joining us, But first to a very special
guest joining us. This is Jody's sister, Joanne Nathy. Joanne,
thank you for being with us.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
Well, thank you again for having me, Jillianne.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
It's unfathomable to me how someone that is so present
in the lives of her local TV community can just disappear.
It's like someone just cut off the TV and she's gone,
and that the end of it. It seems very very surreal.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
Yeah, we never, you know, anticipate anything like this ever happening.
We thought Jody would be safe in Mason City. It
wasn't that big of a community, and she just she
took a lot of safety courses and stuff, and she
she was careful, she really was. She wanted to have
a good reputation in the community. And yeah, we were
(05:28):
just stunned. I mean when it happened in ninety five,
and of course it's been really hard and everybody, not
just the family, it's friends. She meant a lot to
so many people.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Do you remember when you first learned Jody was missing?
Speaker 4 (05:45):
Yeah, I remember it very well. What happened, well, we
were on a bus trip up north, my mom and
aunt just oh, with the group of ladies, you know,
and we were going to this casino because ninety five
the casinos well they had started prior to ninety five.
But anyway, it was going to be a fun day.
(06:08):
And so we were up in Walker, Minnesota, and then
they asked us to come to the room when we
got there and that there was an emergency phone call.
It was shortly after we arrived, and so we came
in and they said it's from Mason City. And right
away my mom said, oh, no, Jody. And we thought
maybe she'd been in a car accident.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
That's what I thought.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
And she'll be okay, you know, she'll But then when
Halverson said, oh, she's missing, Joanne, are you sitting down?
And I said missing, Well, we'll find her, you know,
there's some mistake. Why would she be missing, you know.
But then we got pretty nervous and about it all,
(06:50):
of course, and we left. They provided a vehicle for
us to go back to Long Purrie. They brought us.
It was quite a drive too, but yeah, it was
very hard. And then we got back and nobody had
found her, you know, by the end of the day,
and so then we were getting very worried. But we
thought it'd be that it was some kind of a mistake,
that she would be found and she'd be okay. That
(07:13):
was their original thought, you.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Know, to doctor Jory Kraus in psychologist Faculty, Saint Leo
University joining us doctor Drury, I know I'm projecting right now,
but I've also seen it with many, many other crime victims.
When I first was told my fiance it was dead,
at first, I thought there was some kind of a
(07:37):
mix up and if I could just get to him,
I could fix it, and I could get him to
the hospital and everything would be okay. I thought there
had been a car crash, just like what joe Ane
Nathee is saying about Jodie Houston truth and I know
you hear her saying, well, we thought it was a
car accident. Then we thought missing, well, there's just some
mix that we're going to fix this. Why is our mind?
(07:59):
Where are our mind go to something that we can comprehend?
Like I couldn't comprehend that Keith have been shot five
times in the face and the neck and the head
in the back, that was hard for me. That would
never have occurred to me, that that could have happened.
Just like with Joe and Nathy, Jody's sister, she really thought, oh,
(08:20):
there's been a car crash missing. What this is wrong?
We're going to We're going to get this all straightened out.
Why is that? What is that?
Speaker 6 (08:29):
It starts off as like a protective mechanism for ourselves,
you know, to try to make some positive sense out
of it. You know, the term we use is closure,
and it's not like closing up the you know, the event,
but it's trying to make sense out of ambiguity. And
you know, you think of, well maybe it was a
(08:51):
car accident, They're okay, they're going to be found. You
continue to put the positive perspective on it, and it
helps kind of keep you stable. Lies so as you
take in more information, you can you know, better assess
it and apply it to the situation.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Is there some sort of a defense mechanism, Well, I
call it.
Speaker 6 (09:13):
More of a protective mechanism, you know, trying to keep
you know, that stress level down so you can keep
a rational cognitive process going on with the information that
you're taking in. You know, some people they react, you know,
just where they totally break down and you know they're
not able to do anything.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Yeah, I take a listen to our friend Ross Cugis
KSTP TV son and I just woken her up.
Speaker 7 (09:41):
Amy Coons called Jody's apartment at four a m. The
morning Jody disappeared.
Speaker 8 (09:46):
I wondered if anything was going on, like maybe somebody
was in her apartment now, I listened.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
For other voices.
Speaker 7 (09:52):
Jody had said she had overslept and would be right
in at four twenty that morning. Tenant's here screens in
the parking lot. Jody has never heard from again.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Caroline Load founded a podcast called Find Jody Podcast. You
can find her also at Caroline Low TV. Caroline, thank
you for being with us. You've been on the case
for some time. Let's start at the beginning. What do
we know of the last time that Jody was seen alive?
No wait, no, let's start with the scene. Let's start
(10:21):
with her place where she was what do we know?
Speaker 9 (10:23):
What we know is it appears that whatever happened to
Jody happened in the parking lot right adjacent to her building.
It looks like they're about twelve steps from Jody's building
to her car that she was most likely ambushed attack
from behind.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Okay, right, are you talking about her building where she
lived or her building where she where she lived.
Speaker 9 (10:41):
We're talking from where she was running late. As we
heard Amy Koons, her producer say, she was running late
and so she's rushing to her car. She's carrying her
things she needs to.
Speaker 10 (10:51):
Get ready her work.
Speaker 9 (10:52):
Most likely her hair was wet being so late, and
she had a blow dryer with her. Somebody attacked her
from behind, and from all signs that we can tell,
there were signs of a struggle. She was dragged easterly
according to the police.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
You know what, I got to break everything down that
you're saying. I got to go through it one fact
at a time and digest it and trying to make
sense of it. Guys were talking about a beautiful TV
anchor that goes missing. Jody Hu's in truth. Take a
listen to our friend Jim Axelrod.
Speaker 11 (11:25):
The anchor of KIMT six am newscast. She usually arrived
at work by three point thirty in the morning.
Speaker 8 (11:32):
If she's not there between three thirty and fogg, you
were calls a hey, are you awake?
Speaker 11 (11:37):
Producer Amy Koons noticed nothing unusual, and she called and
whooped Jody up about ten after four that morning.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
She was asking about the show. She was concerned about
the show, and she said, I'll be right there.
Speaker 11 (11:50):
But at five point thirty, still know Jody, and this
being a time before cell phones, Amy tried her at
home again and got her answering machine. At six am,
Amy had a step up and deliver the news in
Jody's place.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
She loves her show.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
She got it her show. You know she wouldn't miss
it for anything.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
The police were called shortly after seven. When they arrived
at Jody's.
Speaker 11 (12:13):
Apartment, she wasn't home, but they found her shoes, hair
dryer and keys scattered on the ground near her beloved
red Mazda Miata.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
You are hearing our friend Jim Axelrod at fine Jody,
CBS forty eight hours the search on for Jodie Houston Street.
Let me go back to Caroline Love, investigative journalist. Caroline.
Let's start again at the beginning. Now you're telling me
she was leaving. You believe she was leaving her apartment
building that morning. She was running a little late for work.
(12:42):
Her hair was still wet because she had a hair
dryer with you with her. I assume that was standing
in the parking lot. You're telling me she was only
twelve feet out from her apartment or twelve feet from
her vehicle, And how would you know she was dragged behind?
Speaker 9 (12:58):
That information came years ago from police, a police investigator.
She was dragged easterly. They saw marks in the silt,
if you will, and they believed that that's what happened.
That she was strigg easterly most toward Kentucky Avenue, which
is the main road going by the Key Apartments where
Jody lived with me.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Former Commander twenty seven years Woodbury Police Department, Jay Alberiro, Jay,
tell me what you know of the morning Jody goes missing.
Speaker 10 (13:25):
An examination of the photos that the media had, the
information that the Mason City Police had put out there
in the past. So based on all that, my interpretation
and from the facts is that Jody was at her
car and it appears that she was attempting to put
(13:45):
the key in the door lock to open the door
to her car when she was grabbed more likely from behind,
because there's indications or the key that she had was bent,
which tells me that she had to keep in the
door lock when she was grabbed, so the force of
somebody grabbing her pushed her towards the front of the
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car possibly and bent that key. And also the driver's
side mirror on the door was also bent forward, and
again that indicates there's a struggle taking place and the
perpetrator has grabbed her and has taken her towards the
front of the car, away from her apartment building. You know,
(14:29):
and the examination we've been down there, We've driven through
the parking lot and looked at the scene, because the
scene will tell you volumes of what happened, and it's
a very tight parking lot where that's.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Really interesting to Wndy Patrick, prosecutor, author of Red Flags
at wendypatricktphd dot com. Wendy, I never was so arrogant
as to try a case in front ofly jury without
having gone to this scene. In fact, very typically obsessively
(15:04):
gone to the scene many, many times, often on my
off time, looking at it, trying to make sense, reenacting
in my mind what happened. Who could see what or
not see? And in court, Wendy, it made all the
difference because I've had many defense witnesses take the stand
(15:27):
under oath and state what they saw or didn't see,
and into my knowledge of the scene makes it very
easy to say something like, well, wait a minute, isn't
there a big tree and a hedge around the building,
So you're saying you could see through the hedge what
happened at the front door. Is that what you're telling me?
(15:50):
You have to know this scene and we're just hearing
that from Jay Alberia.
Speaker 5 (15:53):
Yeah, no, that's huge. And I usually go as soon
as possible when after the prime was committed, because, especially
in a case like this where you have an incident
in the morning, you want to know when exactly the
sun came up, when people would be out walking their dogs,
when you'd see the joggers, when you would be able
to have seen the evidence left behind. You know, we
all know the first few hours after a kidnapping or
(16:13):
an abduction are the most critical, the most crucial, because
that's when the bad guy or whoever abducted the victim
is able to make the escape. So yes, and you're
also right, it gives you enhanced credibility in front of
not just the jury but also the judge to where
you are the one in the courtroom that has done
your homework, You've been there and you're in the best
position to be asking these questions.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
It also helps you catch liars. But in this case,
we're hearing Jay Alberiro and Caroline Low describe what happened,
and the scenario is really important. Now, what have I learned?
I've learned that she was most likely attacked from behind?
What does that mean? Somebody she didn't know, Somebody that
felt they had to sneak up on her, in the
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sense that maybe it was someone she did know, but
they had bad dealings so they had to sneak up
on her. It tells me that she fought tooth and nail,
that she had almost made it to her car, because
we're here Alberio describing how the key to the car
was bent. So Jesse she had gotten it in and
it was pulled away with such force it bent the key.
(17:21):
Now we are hypothesizing what happened, but there's a lot
of evidence to prove that. Take a listen to reporterly
with ABC six kaa l what happened to Jody.
Speaker 12 (17:33):
Outside of Jody's apartment, investigators found evidence of a struggle,
her personal items scattered in the parking lot, jewelry, shoes,
and a bag near her red convertible, and perhaps one.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Of the most important pieces of evidence, a broken key.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
As Jody's mourning producer morning assistant producer, I was the
last one to speak with her before she disappeared.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Ammy Coons was working that morning Jody disappeared. She tells police.
Speaker 12 (17:58):
Jody was often late for work, and that morning she
called Jody and says Jody.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Answered and told her she was on her way in.
We still have our jobs to do and I just
got to get the show.
Speaker 12 (18:08):
Yere Coons went on to anchor that morning in Jody's place.
It wasn't until hours later that a phone call was
made by the station.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
To police that Jody never arrived to work.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Oh man, man, that is critical to Joanne Nathy, this
is Jody's sister. They didn't call for how many hours?
Those are critical hours in finding Jody.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
Yes, that's true. I'm sure they just well, maybe she
overslept and she would be in That's what I've understood it.
But it was critical time period. It's too bad that
they didn't call, but you know.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
It happened. Those cards were dealt and we're working with
what we've got.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
Certainly, Amy Coons never thought that Jody was being obressd accepted,
of course, just thought she had overslipt, you know.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Crime stories with Nancy Grace. According to a gorgeous young
TV anchor's family, they are convinced someone became obsessed with
Jody who's instrup from watching her on TV and deciding
that's the woman for me. Maybe not intentionally harming Jody,
(19:36):
but they believe a kidnap attempt went wrong. What happened
that morning? Caroline Loath, isn't it correct that, you know,
I heard another coworker say that Jody was never late
to work, so I've got a conflicting report on that. Well,
is that significant? Yes, because if she was never late
(19:56):
to work as she was late this morning, that is
what we call quote routine evidence, evidence of habit or routine.
It's very hard to break, you know, when you're in
the TV business. You can't be one minute late or
there'll be an empty chair sitting there. You need. If
you're fifteen minutes early, you're late. So I'm curious about that,
(20:17):
and I'm also curious the coworker said Caroline that they
called her and she said, I'm on the way. Is
that correct?
Speaker 9 (20:26):
We have no information otherwise and that's what police are reported,
So will we guess guessing that they checked the records
to verify that. But to back to Amy, Amy said
that she was basically crashing to get the show on.
She was initially just kind of angry at Todi that
she'd overslept, and she told maybe it's just.
Speaker 10 (20:43):
The other day.
Speaker 9 (20:44):
One of her biggest series was she would lose her
job if she didn't get that show produced and on
the air.
Speaker 10 (20:49):
Yeah, she never imagined.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Yeah, she's right about that, because people would tune in
and there'll be nothing there. So yeah, she would probably
have lost her job. Another question, she to Caroline Low,
very often I would take clothes, shoes, makeup, whatever jewelry
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that I was going to wear it that night with
me in my hands, in a bag and a backpack,
fold it up with me. So I'm assuming that everything
that was found in the parking lot. When we hear
hair dry or shoes and all that, that doesn't mean
they came off for feet. That means to me that's
what she was going to wear onto the air. Guys,
(21:31):
we're talking about Jody, who's in truth just twenty seven
years old. That goes missing seemingly into thin air. So,
Caroline Low, what can you tell me about all the
items that were scattered in the parking lot.
Speaker 9 (21:43):
What we know is there are a pair of red
high heels, which would seem to suggest that Jody was
likely wearing something with red or all red that day.
We don't know exactly. As far as we know, what
she was wearing has never been found. There was hairspray,
there was a blow dryer, There are earrings, so the
basics of what you would wear to go on the air.
What's missing is a bag that she carried it in.
(22:03):
We've never heard anything about whether that was located. Presumably
Jody did not run to her car carrying all these
things in her arms doesn't make sense. So where is
that bag? Where's the purse that she normally would have had.
We don't know.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
And we also know that she was in a hurry
because she was running late, so she may have grabbed
things and then they came out of her hands. But
I find that also odd. Why would she have be
carrying earrings and other things in her hands and trying
to open up the car door. Guys, take a listen
to our cut seven A This is Brian Master evening
(22:36):
anchor k imt listen.
Speaker 13 (22:38):
Jody wasn't there, and so an associate producer, Amy Koons
calls Jody at her apartment. Jody sounded as though she
had just woke up and told Amy, Okay, I'm getting around.
I'll be in.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
So then the time passes, It's.
Speaker 13 (22:54):
Now four point thirty, it's now five, Amy, I'm assuming
always thought, well, probably just sell back sleep. Jody not
coming in right on time wasn't necessarily unusual from talking
to the people who worked in the morning. She wasn't
always right on time. The show starts at six o'clock
(23:14):
without Jody, and so it was just a few minutes
after seven o'clock, right after she had gotten off the air,
Amy Coons calls Mason City Police for a welfare check.
Speaker 9 (23:22):
Maytay, can I clarify something there? Yes, Ample didn't make
the Amy did not make the phone call. Amy was
still sitting on this set at the seven o'clock when
the show ended, a co worker came in. She asked
the coworker to call police because she still had to
do a morning update.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
So a co.
Speaker 9 (23:37):
Worker called the police at seven point thirteen. First officers
arrived on the scene at seven sixteen.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Interesting. That makes me feel a little bit better about
the timeline because the whole day hasn't passed. Take a
listen to more of our friends at Kaimt listen.
Speaker 13 (23:53):
Mason City Police found Jody's car in the parking lot
in the apartment complex, was maybe twenty feet twenty five
feet from the front door.
Speaker 14 (24:02):
They did find her car in the parking lot and
or who she had been.
Speaker 13 (24:06):
Found a bench if you see that scattered, a keybent
in her fairly new car. There's a palm print on
the car. There's a struggle. She's been abducted. She's probably
still alive. There's a three hour window in between the
phone call and the welfare check, and that's a lot
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of time for somebody to do something and get away.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
That is conventional wisdom. If someone is killed in an induction,
very often the first three hours or the critical that's
the critical window in which you have a chance to
save the person. Straight out to doctor Jory Crawls in
Psychologists Faculty, Saint Leo University. You know, another wrinkle in
this case is that Jodie Hughson truth was in everybody's
(24:54):
living rooms and bedrooms and dens and kitchens all across
the viewing area. People thought thought that they knew her.
Not only that, there are a lot of people out
there that, for instance, I know this sounds crazy, doctor Jory,
that think you're sending them non verbal messages or that
(25:16):
you are speaking to them in code in some way.
Of course, these people have mental issues, but they believe,
for instance, somebody young and beautiful like JODI's Huston's Truth
is actually in love with them. It happens quite often, doctor.
Speaker 15 (25:32):
Yes, it does with you know, celebrities or anybody that's
in the public light of you know, I guess all
the reporters that can kind.
Speaker 6 (25:42):
Of relate to that. But the one thing is that
you know, from the psychological perspective of who did this,
I mean, it seemed to be pretty well planned out,
and most people that you know either have those kind
of delusions, I mean, they can still plan it out well,
but committing it to this degree of almost perfection. You know,
(26:04):
it was that time of day, early in the morning,
they had to wait. She was late. I mean, there's
a lot of things that you know, what we don't
have answers.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
For and I'm assuming to you, Caroline Low that there
were no security cameras in the parking lot.
Speaker 9 (26:19):
No security cameras, and as far as we know, no eyewitnesses.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Oh man, of course, to you, Jay Alberio, it was
so early in the morning that she was leaving. Correct,
what time was it?
Speaker 10 (26:30):
We just made from the information it was about four
thirty in the morning.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Yeah, there's not a lot of people out and about
at four thirty in the morning. Take a listen to
our forensic kimt.
Speaker 13 (26:39):
The search for Jodie was immedia. The response was overwhelming.
I mean, she's in your living room every morning. In
Mason City and the surrounding communities, people feel as though
they know you men. So everybody wanted to help. You
had dogs, you had psychics. You had so many people
looking just to see if they could find clues.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Joey and Nathan, this is Jody's sister. Do you remember
the use of psychics trying to find Jody.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
Oh yeah, we had telephone calls and we were on
a show with psychics too at the beginning. Could I
clarify something that always bugs me that I hear them
say like I heard this morning again that she was
late many times for work, and I never had that
impression of a few times she was late for work.
But Jody was very conscientious about her job. I mean,
(27:31):
she wanted perfection. I would not say she was late
many times. A few times she was a little late.
Probably she did jam pack her day's way too much.
She worked, stayed up late writing thank you notes, and
you know she just used every hour.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
I don't know, you know, And I was trying to
clear that earlier Joe and Nathe. Through my research and
investigation of the case, I found other co workers that
said she was never late or really late.
Speaker 4 (27:59):
She was so condentious. But no, she was late a
few times. I'm sure.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Yeah, I'm glad you said that, because I don't like
the impression that leaves, and more important, it factors into
what happened that morning, because she told the co worker,
I'm up, I'm on the way here.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
I count And I'm sure she was very nervous at
that point because she was so conscientious.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
I'm sure take a listen as Brian Master kimt.
Speaker 13 (28:25):
Free neighbors apparently heard screams that morning, and none of
them are able to really give an indicator about what
those screams were about.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Crime stories with Nancy Grace. Was Jodie, who's in truth
kidnapped by a stalker, someone that became obsessed from watching
her on TV. That is the gut wrenching theory. Her
family believes what other clues were left behind to Wendy Patcheck,
(29:08):
California prosecutor, author of Red Flags, and hosters Today with
doctor Wendy k c b Q in San Diego. Wendy,
you know, a timeline can start with something seemingly innocuous,
and I will refer to a really good example where
in the Nicole Brown Ron Goldman double murder, the neighbors
(29:33):
were first alerted by the dog. I believe the dog's
same was Akida's, as they say, mournful or plaintive. Well,
that really started the timeline in the middle of the night,
and here the neighbors hear these screams. Wendy, that's right.
Speaker 5 (29:51):
And you know a lot of people would have called
the police right away upon hearing those screams, and a
timeline would also include people that were up at six am.
This was a morning a she was in the morning
rooms of the breakfast tables across this small town where
more people were likely to know her, to recognize her,
to know her name. It also, when you talk about
a timeline, you would want to know if she had
(30:13):
a stalker. And I've prosecuted several men who have stalked
news anchors specifically, but they were news anchors that were
on when they were awake. So that timeline would also
sweep in everyone that would necessarily have seen her, have
seen something, who would have been up, who know who
she is, because they would have been awakened in a
position to be not only sharp many people are sharper
(30:34):
in the morning, but also in a position to notice
something out of the ordinary, like those screams that, as
you point out, really starts that timeline.
Speaker 14 (30:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
I mean if you hear a scream at four thirty
five o'clock in the morning, and there's a big difference
of hearing the neighbor calling the dog and a woman screaming.
I'm very surprised no one called police, But you know what, again,
that's what we're working with. They did not take a
Listen now to Ross's Cherry at k STP.
Speaker 7 (31:02):
TV, Jody's closest friends in Mason City are for the
first time talking about their suspicions.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
Because it could possibly be someone that we know.
Speaker 16 (31:13):
All with all the times I've talked to detectives, they
feel that someone's doctor watched her, know what her schedule
was and was.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
Definitely going to plan on doing something that morning.
Speaker 7 (31:25):
Right up to her disappearance, this group of people socialized
with Jody. As they realized Jody's abductor might not be
a stranger, they grew uncomfortable with one of their friends.
Speaker 8 (31:35):
You see signals you may not have seen that make
me think that there is always a possibility that could
be somebody that we we know.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
Now take a listen to Brian Mastri and Beth Bednor,
former anchor from k I M T A k A
a L, speaking to our friends at ID.
Speaker 13 (31:56):
Investigators start to zero in on someone who was with
Jody the night before. They knew that she had been
with a friend twenty years her senior, John van Seiss.
Speaker 14 (32:07):
John Vansiss is considerably older than her. Recently divos and
booked to Mason City. You've spent a lot of time together.
Two weeks time to her disappearance, John had a birthday
party for her to celebrate her twenty seventh birthday.
Speaker 13 (32:22):
It seems as though he was the last one to
see Jody alive too.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Caroline Love investigative journalists and you can find her at
find Jody dot com, Find Jody podcast and Caroline low TV. Caroline,
who is this guy? And so he's the last one
to see her alive the night before.
Speaker 9 (32:41):
That's what he says. His name is John van Seiss.
He was twenty two years older than Jody, and just
two days earlier that weekend, he and several of Jody's
friends had gotten together in northern Iowa to go on
a water skiing trip. Actually writes about him in her journal.
The last thing she writes about two days before she disappeared,
talks about what a great time she had with John
(33:02):
van Seiss her other friends Annie Cruz and Tammy Baker.
So he's an older friend who spent a lot of
time with her in the last couple months before she disappeared.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
And to you, Jay Alberia, a former commander of Woodbury
Police Apartment. Jay did he he worked with her in
what capacity?
Speaker 10 (33:19):
No, John Vancize did not work with her. With Jody,
there are acquaintances. As far as we know, John had
lived in the apartment complex at one time. That's possibly
where he met Jody that became friends. Had a mutual
interest in water skiing and John had a boat, so
John was taking her water skiing and we believed that
(33:41):
he was also helping her learn how to water ski.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
To Joey and Nathy, what was her relationship with John
van Seiss.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
Well, actually I didn't know about the guy till this
all happened. She had mentioned to my mom. My mom
cautioned hers that she was not really dating this guy,
but he was a friend and they know and stuff,
and my mom said, well, you better be careful because
you know he might be getting romantically interested in you. Oh,
we're just good friends, Jody would say, you know, and
(34:12):
so but I after hearing about after it all happened,
we know that he was quite obsessed with Jody.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
Why did you say that?
Speaker 4 (34:20):
Oh, just he wanted always be around her and he
wanted to you know. He said he even named his
boat after her, which was odd. And the friends knew
that too, and they cautioned Jody. They said, Jody, are
you sure that John isn't more interested in you than
you think? And it was just very obvious that he
(34:43):
that he has been was very interested in her.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Yeah, as a matter of fact, you're absolutely correct, Joeyne Nathan,
this is Jody's sister in joining us. Take a listen
to Mary McGuire k I m t forcibly the role.
Speaker 17 (34:57):
Of both journalist and friend Robin wolf from ordered on
the disappearance. Even interviewing the man who Jody was seen
with last what was his demeanor like.
Speaker 8 (35:06):
A joyful almost strangely happy and telling me how he
named his boat after and how he just loved her.
Speaker 17 (35:14):
She has no doubt in her mind that man, an
older gentleman who is friends with Jody, is the one
responsible for her disappearance.
Speaker 8 (35:21):
I cautioned Jody about their friendship in television.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
We have a gut incident about things.
Speaker 8 (35:28):
My gut and my instinct tells me that he's responsible.
Speaker 17 (35:34):
But Wolfram isn't the only one who shares those same
suspicions about him. Last March find Jody dot Com, a
website dedicated to the case, reported Mason City police served
him with a search warrant seeking GPS data on two
of his cars.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
Straight out to Caroline Low, Caroline, what can you tell
me about the source warrant served on this guy? This
much older gentleman twenty two years her senior, that a
currently was besotted with her.
Speaker 9 (36:02):
The search warrants occurred in twenty seventeen, and while what
the police were seeking was two vehicles associated with John
van Seiss, vehicles that he did not have back in
nineteen ninety five, they weren't manufactured till a few years later.
We don't know specifically what they were seeking their probable
cause statement, the affidavit is not public. What we do know,
(36:24):
as they said, is they were after she disappeared. The
possible theory is that they were seeking to see if
maybe he was going to some kind of a crime
scene when he was back in Iowa. He was subpoened
before a federal grand jury in that same month, where
he was ordered to provide palm prints, fingerprints, and DNA sample.
But we don't know, and the chief later said it
(36:46):
did not produce any evidence.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
I'm guessing Wendy Patrick that they would want to compare.
He has not been named as a suspect. Number one.
Let's just state that any potential palm prints or fingerprints
is something found on that car.
Speaker 5 (37:00):
Oh absolutely, and you know the Joe Anne and your
other guests what we've done is we bumped the timeline
back to even the night before. So you talk about
that palm print, where it came from, who might have
made it. Now we're sweeping in people that may have
seen her within even the last twelve hours. And yes,
you know forensics, I know this happens a long time ago,
but we still today had some of what we had
(37:21):
even back then. Google fashion forensics, especially in a case
like this where that's all that they had left at
the scene. There was no footage or cell phone pinging
like we do nowadays. A pall print like that would
have been an enormous piece of evidence.
Speaker 18 (37:34):
It's a new information has come out from that twenty
seventeen search warrant which shows the GPS tracking data of
a car owned by that person of interest. He died
December of last year. The data tracks a vehicle during
the four day span as it traveled from Baxter, Iowa,
through Missouri, Kansas, Oklahoma, Texas, and New Mexico before stopping
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in Phoenix. The rest of the information has not been released.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
It could have been anyone. Everybody in the area knows
Jody who's in truth. They see her every single morning.
Take a listen to Jennifer Austin KA r E eleven.
Speaker 16 (38:11):
Don't think because the world is concerned with other news,
that she's forgotten.
Speaker 19 (38:15):
Caroline Lowe is an investigative journalist and part of the
Find Jody Team, a group of investigators who continued to
look into the unsolved case.
Speaker 20 (38:23):
What happened to Jody.
Speaker 19 (38:25):
They launched a podcast this month on what would have
been Jody's fifty second birthday, hoping to keep eyes on
her story and find answers about what happened the early
morning of June twenty seventh, nineteen ninety five, when Jody
left her apartment late for her job anchoring the morning news.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
America's most highly publicized missing children.
Speaker 3 (38:44):
She never made it.
Speaker 12 (38:45):
She was very easy to follow.
Speaker 16 (38:47):
You knew her schedule anchoring the six Am and New news,
her home number for address or even lists of the
local directory. She would have been very easy to find.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
What could have been done differently? And can there be
a save? Take a listen to our cut sixteen A.
This is Laurley ABC six KAA l listen.
Speaker 20 (39:08):
I can't remember Jodie ever being or late for work.
Speaker 4 (39:12):
She's a professional journalism journalist.
Speaker 12 (39:15):
Then general manager John Shine seen during a press conference
later that day, describing a very different Jody, a devoted
employee who took her job seriously.
Speaker 20 (39:24):
I've made it clear this case is not going to
go away for us.
Speaker 12 (39:28):
For many decades, this case has puzzled the Mason City
Police Department. What do you think you, as chief can
do different than the chiefs prior to you that have
had this case under their tail and nothing has come about.
Speaker 20 (39:40):
I'm not going to sit here in second guess decisions
made officers in the field twenty five years ago about
what they did. I will tell you that I don't
believe that any of them probably thought that we would
still be working this case today.
Speaker 12 (39:53):
Chief Jeff Brankley says bringing a fresh pair of eyes
to the case could help.
Speaker 20 (39:57):
Cold cases I think are of interest to a lot
of people. It's obviously a case that affected Mason City,
and so if we could put some closure to that,
I'm interested in doing that.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
To Caroline Low, Investigative journalists find Jody dot com Caroline,
where does it stand now? There was one reporting of
a body found out a Mason City river. We don't
believe it remains. We don't believe that was Jody a
PI popped up and said he had information that he
is still not shared with anyone in the family. Have
(40:29):
there been any developments, Caroline that we could really sink
our teeth into.
Speaker 9 (40:34):
Nancy, I really wish I could say there were, and
we get tips all the time at find Jody dot com,
but we have no information that authorities, anybody is any
closer to finding Jody, Hues and Troup today than they
were years ago.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
To Joeanne Nathan, this is Jody's sister, Joanne, what is
your most vivid memory of your sister Jody.
Speaker 4 (40:57):
Well, she was always still very caring about us, so
I just wanted us to be happy. That was a
big interest, you know. If she was working at a
resort and her time off, she did invite us up
to use the facilities, and oh she was just so bubbly.
She has personality. Plus you know, she probably didn't have
the best speaking ability necessarily, but all her personality on
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the air just came through. I know, Doug Murbrick told
me the ratings were very high and one thing though,
she revealed too much about her personal life on the
air also, but that's you know, Jody.
Speaker 5 (41:31):
She was so.
Speaker 4 (41:32):
Personable with everyone, and people felt they really really knew her.
And all you need is somebody who was not playing
with a full deck to become obsessed and sitting and
listening to her daily routine. She would often talk where
she went jogging and what activity she was going to
do that day, and she probably went. She probably did
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too much of that on the air and it was
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