August 7, 2025 • 46 mins
Just after midnight, the calm over the serene Montauk Yacht Club is shattered by the sounds of a man’s anguished scream. Passersby rush to a boat in the marina, where a man is standing over an unconscious woman begging for help.
Soon, the marina is filled with the sound of sirens, but the woman isn’t rushed to the hospital—first responders declare the woman dead on the scene.
After the East Hampton Town Police and first responders pronounce Martha dead, the county's Homicide Squad arrives on scene around 4am and takes over the investigation. The preliminary investigation and exam were inconclusive regarding the cause of death, and an autopsy was performed by the Suffolk County Medical Examiner.
The autopsy did not show evidence of violence, and her final cause of death is pending further examination.
Joining Nancy Grace today:
- Greg Morse - Criminal Defense Attorney of Morse Legal, Author of “The Untested” found on Amazon; website:
- Dr. Chloe Carmichael -Clinical Psychologist, Author: "Nervous Energy: Harness The Power of Your Anxiety;" X: @DrChloe, drchloe.com
- Dan Murphy - Former NYPD Detective-Sergeant, Joint Terrorism Task Force, Former Chief Security Officer, US Bancorp, Co-Host of "Gold Shields" Podcast, and Author: “Workplace Safety: Establishing an Effective Violence Prevention Program”
- Dr. Thomas Coyne - Chief Medical Examiner, District 2 Medical Examiner's Office, State of Florida; Forensic Pathologist, Neuropathologist, Toxicologist; X: @DrTMCoyne
- Tisa Tells - Pop Culture Investigator & Commentator and Host of 'Tisa Tells' on YouTube; YouTube: @TisaTells, Instagram & TikTok: @TisaTellss
- Sydney Sumner - Crime Online Investigative Reporter
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Midnight screams.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
A beautiful young fashion designer found dead on a Hampton's yacht.
And I can tell you this, nothing good happens after midnight. Midnight,
Hampton's is the playground for millionaires. A dead woman on
a yacht. I'm easy, Grace, this is Crime Stories. I
(00:33):
want to thank you for being with us.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Blood curdling screams heard in the middle of the night
at the Montaka Yacht Club. First responders board the boat
to find thirty three year old Martha nolan Oslatterer unconscious.
A night of partying now shrouded in mystery.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
I can't stress it enough.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
I've told a million juries this nothing good happens after midnight,
and all of the wealthy neighbors thereby that yacht club
here screams at midnight and a woman's body found on
one of the yachts. Dot there straight out to Tasa Tails,
joining us investigative reporter star of Tasa Tales on YouTube
(01:14):
Tisa what do we know right now?
Speaker 4 (01:17):
What we know right now is that this woman was
found unresponsive. There was a naked man screaming in an
elusive private club. But the thing is the police aren't
giving that much information. But if you know anything about
the Hamptons and you know anything about Montalk, what they're
not telling us is explaining the whole story. Montalk is
(01:37):
literally the end of the Hamptons. It is exclusive, it
is wealthy, it is sexy, but it is also very quiet,
unlike the Hamptons. When wherever something happens in Montak. In
Hampton's it's on the front page of page six and Montak,
things quietly get swept under the rug. They're letting us know.
(01:57):
Oh you know, they're not released who actually found them.
The boyfriend's name, which is highly unusual. It was his shot.
He owns Tune in the Marina. And lets you know,
this man either comes from deep pockets, deep money, maybe both.
When you get into Montak, billionaires go to play. Everybody
knows everybody. She was very well known. But yet, but yet,
(02:22):
there is hardly anything in the media being released about this.
A lot of residents are thinking that something is being
swept under the rug.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
And let me just tell you something about Montak.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
There have been confirmed drug rings where it's for limmel.
Drivers are delivering drugs flown in fresh from the dr
This has been confirmed. There are billionaires, there are wanna
be billionaires.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
I mean in tasa tails.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
You're telling me that unlike a lot of people I've
prosecuted that sailed up on the corner. The people are
so rich in the Hamptons, and Montak is at the
very tip of the island, which means you're not just wealthy,
you're megawealthy because you're away from the great unwashed that
(03:11):
are at the rest of the Hamptons and they have
their dope flown and from Dominican Republic to be delivered.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
Did you just say that white glove service, Nancy, white
glove service. It is literally a white glove service where
you get an exclusive list of not.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Just the drugs that the commoners use.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
You know, there's cope, there's MDA, there are designer drugs
flown in especially and is delivered white glove service. I
think about four rings so far have been busted. But
this goes into the Montague. Why haven't you heard that?
Because things get swept under the rug. You look at
the Montaks. If you do any research, they'll be the
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first to tell you we've never had any instances with murder.
And what has been a bastion of the wealthy, the billionaires,
the parties, and all those sturdy little secrets that come
with it. You cannot find anything. It's actually irregular and
absurd to think where there is that much money, power
and hangar ones that nothing in the whole history of
(04:17):
Montak has happened besides the designer drug delivery service. Again,
the reason why all eyes are on Montak, or, as
they like to call it, the End, is the fact
that things get brushed under. People might be paid off,
people might be might be scared to speak, but the
billionaires love to keep it quiet. So all eyes in
(04:39):
New York are looking into what's going on in Montak
because at the end of the day, it's so exclusive.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Even most New Yorkers don't.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
Know what happens behind that facade.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Straight out to Dan Murphy joining US former NYPD detective sergeant,
Joint Terrorism Task Force now star of the Goal Shows podcast. Dan,
She's right, we never hear about anything going wrong in
the Hampton's much less Montalk. You might see a movie
(05:08):
here and there, you know you just had murder in
the Hampton's blah blah blah, but it's all make believe.
Why do we never hear about the real truth. There's
got to be crime in the Hamptons, Suffolk.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
County, and that whole area is there's a lot of
money out there, and where there's money, there is a
media control, whether it's real or implied. And I think
out there you will never hear all that dirt unless
they want you to hear it. This is an area
that is so exclusive. People have so much money they
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want to keep it as clean as possible. They do
not want their dirty laundry aired, and they will go
to great lengths to do that. They have to keep
the property values up. They have to keep the money
flowing out. The rich people have to feel they can
go there safely and do whatever it is they want
to do. Most don't do illicit things, but some do.
(06:01):
This is an area where you're going to see people
who are going to turn a blind eye to things
and just either not want to believe it. It's not
too different from the Upper East Side of Manhattan. People
think the Upper east Side of Manhattan is just a
playground for the rich. In many ways, it can be,
but there's also dirtiness behind the covers.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
You know, Dan Murphy, when you hear phrases thrown around
like police are being tight lipped. We can't get answers.
Nobody's talking, swept under the rug. You don't know where
to start exactly. We know so little about this. Basically
we had to fight to find out the name of
the yacht. It's Ripple that said, when you don't know
(06:40):
where to start, you start with the victim.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Who is she? Listen?
Speaker 6 (06:46):
Hi, I'm Martha, the founder, CEO, crew director. You name
us of East Way East. We are launching a resort
waar Line soon. We just got our first ridings humble Back,
and I want you to share first lucks with you
and see what you think. We got another coachet. This
is flor Lem, absolutely stunning on a tritter on I
(07:12):
think this will be a bestseller.
Speaker 7 (07:14):
Living her best life, posting pictures with friends on private jets,
helicopters and yachts. Martha is becoming a legend as the
founder of fashion label East by East.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Straight out to Greg Morse, veteran trial lawyer, criminal defense
attorney at Morse Legal and author of the Untested on Amazon, Greg,
she's being made out to be a party girl. I
don't think that's true and I'll tell you why. Everything
I have been able to find out about her is
that she was raised in a very small town, very
(07:47):
small town. Her dream was to quote make it in
New York, and she has worked night and day, claude
tooth and nail to create her own business. I don't
know if this is the Hampton's pr machine behind the scenes,
painting her to be the party girl so people don't care. Basically,
(08:10):
she asked for it, she got it. Have you ever
seen that happen where the victim is maligned?
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Yeah, you see.
Speaker 8 (08:18):
That in these wealthy areas. I've been practicing law for
twenty five years in Palm Beach, one of the wealthiest
zip codes in the world, and police law enforcement in
these places like in Montalk the Hampton's a rich zip code, They're,
in my opinion, paid to keep things quiet for the residents.
(08:39):
Tisa hit the nail on the head when she talked
about these communities wanting to present safety, wanting to present
there's no crime. We see that a lot also in
Boca Raton in South Florida. The way statistics are manipulated
so they want to In this case, it sounds like
they're trying to make it seem like maybe she didn't
belong who cares a quote unquote you know person's that's
(09:03):
not normal out here, so this won't happen again. She
does seem a little bit like maybe accelerating her success
through social media.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Crime stories with Nancy Grace.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
You know, I want to go to doctor Chloe Carmichael
jumping off what Greg Morse just told us. Doctor Chloe
renowned psychologist and author of Nervous Energy Harness The Power
of Your Anxiety Dodtor Chloe. Much has been made also,
not only for her being called a party girl, which
I don't think is true from what I can tell
(09:47):
about the victim.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
She has worked, as.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
I said, day and night, climbed tooth and claw to
create her business. You know how hard it is to
break into fashion designing people before they even start, because
it's so hard to do much less in New York City,
And somehow she managed to get in out in the Hamptons. Also,
(10:11):
she's being mocked for what she posts online. Hey, so
many people do it. They make their life seem ideally.
My daughter was looking up breakfasts the other day on
Insta and getting recipes, and she makes these beautiful organic
breakfasts for herself, and it shows somebody like posing looking
(10:31):
at the sunrise in a yoga position with a bowl
of organic strawberries in front of them. Really, that is
not real. So I don't fault her. I mean, look
at the Kardashians, You think all that's real.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
No, it's not.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
A lot of it is posed to give an image,
an image that will help them with their business. They're
not idiots. Okay, that's what she's doing. And I don't
like her being mocked for it.
Speaker 9 (10:57):
No, Absolutely, Nancy, as you said, in New York City
to make it in the fashion world. Even the young
people from FIT, the Fashion Institute there that I've worked with,
there are some of the most hardworking, not to mention
oftentimes beautiful, just like this beautiful young woman. And so no,
I definitely wouldn't think that just because she's putting out
(11:18):
great content online that hello, she's in the fashion business.
Of course she's going to be putting out, you know,
image conscious material. That makes perfect sense. And to your
point earlier about nothing good happening after midnight, from a
psychological perspective, it's actually very true because tempers flair people sometimes.
(11:38):
You know, if there was foul play here people could
you know, maybe have been drinking all day or using
drugs throughout the day. Also on a yacht, we're talking
about a place that's off limits to the police, for example,
So there's a very a sense of privacy.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Guys, we're showing video that she has posted. Now, I
guarantee you she is sharing this private plane with somebody.
Somebody's given her a ride and she is, like so
many celebrities, giving the appearance that she has a private plane. Well,
she is on a private plane. They cost a lot
of money, over twenty grand. Let's take a look at more.
(12:18):
What more do we know about Martha?
Speaker 6 (12:21):
Hello, Hello, my name is Martha. I am the founder
and CEO of East by East. So east by East
is Ainger's warber Brant. East by East stands for new
Work for the Hamptons. A tagline is built in the city,
made for the Sun. I absolutely adore it. I think
it resonates with so many people on so many levels
because it at some point everyone in their lives are
(12:44):
you know, grinding city life. But everyone's just destined for
the Sun. I know I am, and pretty much everyone
else is. So I think it's very fitting.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
She was putting out the social putting it out, putting
it out, trying to get eyes on her workplace, her
fashion designs. But what about the night she's found dead
on a yacht.
Speaker 10 (13:10):
Listen, just after midnight, the calm over the serene Montauk
Yacht Club is shattered by the sounds of a scream.
Passers by rush to a boat in the marina where
a man is standing over an unconscious woman. Soon, the
marina is filled with the sound of sirens, but the
woman isn't rushed to the hospital. First responders to clear
the woman dead on the scene. When Martha Nolan's boyfriend,
(13:32):
the owner of the yacht named Ripple, is seen running
naked and screaming, regulars at the Montak Yacht Club in
East Hampton aren't shocked, accustomed to the owner being drunk
and always messed up.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Wait, did I just hear Tisa tales that a guy's
running around naked?
Speaker 1 (13:49):
So I'm gonna throw that into the mix.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
She's dead on a yacht in Montak the Hamptons after midnight,
and now I've got a guy run around naked, correct.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Running around and screaming at the top of his lungs.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
That's my girlfriend. That's my girlfriend running around naked. No
one knew what to do.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
The police were actually on the scene from four am on.
I reached out to my sources that are actually in
the mon Talk area, the Hampton's area. And the most
shocking thing about this that have people scratching their head
about what exactly happened to that girlfriend. Even though police
are actively on that scene, they were actively looking for clues.
(14:35):
This is an active investigation. Again, the police cannot say
what exactly happened. They are even puzzled. And while people
police are looking for evidence, people are in the pool
lounging like nothing happens. Again, it makes me look at
mom talks their crime figures of nothing ever happens here.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
It makes me side eye.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
Them because even when something has happened, people seem to
not here. It really gets a sinister angle to what's
going on. Again, we have to wait for the results
of the investigation. But something is not right. It is
giving twin peaks David Lynch era creepiness surround it by money,
wealth and influence.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Dan Murphy, that's total bs. They have no idea what
happened to her.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
I mean, you can look at a body and teil
is it stabbed where they strangled? Can't always tell if
they're affixiated or suffocated. You can very often tell if
somebody's been poisoned by the way they smell, or whether
there's phone coming out of their mouth. That sometimes takes toxicology.
Ods take toxicology. But you look for bruises, you look
(15:43):
for injection sites. There is no way they have no
idea what happened to her.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
That's not true.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
When you look at a scene. A scene will tell
you a great many things about what happened to that
body at the scene. That's why crime scene investigation and
evidence recoveries important and documentation of that. In this situation,
any dead body that's found under suspicious circumstances that area
is considered a crime scene. Whether or not there was
(16:11):
alcohol or drugs or anything else in that area, we
don't know. They're being tight lipped, as they said, and
they might be tight lipped. It might be small.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Dan Murphy up, you know, Dan Murphy.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Look, nobody on this panel just fell off the turnip truck.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Murphy.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
You put a dead woman after midnight on a yacht
in the Hampton's screams and a naked guy. Is somebody
suggesting that this was just death by natural cause? Is
what this young girl kills?
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Ever? With what a heart attack?
Speaker 5 (16:51):
I'm not suggesting that. I mean, I don't know, but
I do know this much. I know that the scene
will tell you a great deal more they haven't told
us self the body. You're right when you examine a
body of the scene that's not nearly as thorough as
an autopsy. However, there are many things you can look
for that will tell you something about the death. Evidence
of particular hemorrhaging will tell you if there's asphyxia.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
The beautiful thirty three year old shares glimpses of her
life online pop up shops in Montauk, New York, rooftop drinks,
and private jet getaways with her boyfriend. But behind the
curated posts, something darker may have been brewing.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
What happened to this beautiful young fashion designer that was
finally making it after working her fingers to the bone
for years and years, coming from a small town, getting
her education and working literally like a dog.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Then she's thrown into the.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Melieu at the Hampton's, specifically the Montauk Yacht Club. So
far they're not responding to calls and questions. Hmmm, wonder
why you know they don't want to be near anything
close to a dead woman's body on a yacht part
(18:08):
at their yacht club. No, no, wonder they're not returning
phone calls or emails. Same thing with the LA there
law enforcement. You can't put them down. Why the secrecy? Well,
first of all, when you don't know where to go,
you look at your victim, because that's all you've got.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Let's take another look at her.
Speaker 6 (18:28):
Hi, I'm Maithia's the founder, CEO, crew director, you name
it of East Way East. We are launching a resort
wear line soon. We just got our first riding shambles
back and I want you to share some first lucks
with you and see what you think. We got another crochet.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
This is floor them.
Speaker 6 (18:50):
You can see competing the details absolute, She's stunning.
Speaker 5 (18:55):
On.
Speaker 6 (18:55):
I tried it on.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
I think this will be a catering to the rich
and privilege.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
They're in the Hampton specifically mon Talk again joining me
in all star panels, Trade out to Sydney Sumner joining
me Crime Stories investigative reporter Sidney, what can you tell
me about the mon Talk yacht club.
Speaker 11 (19:15):
Well, Nancy, this is a very big yacht club, spanning
sixteen acres. They have access to one of the largest
marinas in the Hamptons. There's a restaurant, there's a pool,
they have caddle boards and chairs set out on the
beach for people to enjoy. They have tennis, there's plenty
(19:37):
of space to host events. And as far as I know,
this is a very high end area. This is a
very expensive resort stay if you were to stay here
for the weekend, and I think it's frequented by celebrities.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Well mare, can you tell me, Lisa the mon talk
yach clubs exclusive.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
It is sexy.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
It is everything that you would see from a show
like Billions where they're having their summer holiday. The cheapest
room during high season is fifteen hundred okay. To dock
in the marina, they have some of the highest marina
docking fees to pull your boat.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Yacht whatever they want to call it.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
You know, rich people like calling yachts boats okay, whatever
they want to call it. The down play the old money.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
They have some of the highest docking fees.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
On top of that, the rich are coward are literally
fighting in line to get their boats ducked. They have
an exclusive private beach miles and miles some of the
best beach at the end of the Hampton's in Montak,
some of the best beach out there that is only
exclusive to the guests. You must be someone Okay, your
(20:42):
bank account must have high self.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Esteem for you to be there.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
But the thing is about Montak that is actually really
offensive about the way they're classifying this victim as the
party girl. No offense, but if you are in the partying,
you will be in Hampton. Mom Talk is where people
that work hard, that are either generational or self made
money go to relax, have some glamour, but also disappear. Okay,
(21:09):
a party boat in the mon Talk and with the
Monk Yacht Club at the dock is not going to
be accepted and it's not going to be tolerated.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Again, what do we have. A woman that got herself
out of a small town. Okay, rags the.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
Rich a story managed She managed funds, She managed a
lot of businesses until she got enough capital because she.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Was smart, she had a good brain on her shoulders.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
She got enough capital and a dog eat dog fashion industry, which, by.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
The way, in New York.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
Everybody's trying to be either a model, an actress, a
fashion designer. Everybody's trying to be in there. She rolls
to the top and a dog eat dog. Okay, and
she was there celebrating. Just three weeks earlier she had
finally launched her clothing brand, which was actually photographed.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
In Montalk by the Mon Talk Yacht Club.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
Okay, this girl was beautiful, smart, she was a go getter.
She was found in an exclusive yacht club. We're only
the wealthy goal to actually disappear. And wait a minute,
right there, that really narrows my suspects. If you're at
the quote exclusive mon Talk Yacht Club, I mean, how
many members are there?
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Again?
Speaker 2 (22:25):
I have a hard time Doctor Thomas Coin joining US
Chief Medical Examiner, District Team Medical Examiner's Office, State of Florida.
Never a lack of business, pathologist, toxicologist, neuropathologist, and more,
Doctor Coin. That's total bs that they have no idea
(22:45):
the COEOD cause of death.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
I was talking to Dan Murphy about it earlier.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Why would a cop even say that unless they wanted
to keep it on the low down, Because you can
look at a body and see is there a stab
Is there a gunshot wound?
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Is there ligature? Is there a manual? You can't always tell.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Asphyxiation, poison, OD, but you can get a really good idea.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Right. But yeah, there was no.
Speaker 12 (23:10):
Violent means of death here, But it doesn't mean that
she didn't die of something related to toxicology.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
I would also say.
Speaker 12 (23:18):
That, you know, in this case, there was no reporter
her having a significant natural disease. She's young, but you
know she could still have a pulmonary embolist or blood
clot in her lungs, or for instance, an a organized section,
perhaps even like a ruptured him up.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
There was a coin there, he is dot a coin, yep,
if there was something that was You.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Graduated near the top of your class in medical school.
I know you're a taschologist, a pathologist, and so much more,
but you're actually I had to see your face. I
want to make sure you're saying is with a straight face.
It's after midnight. You got a guy running around naked
and drunk, apparently on a yacht at Risimon taught Yut Club.
(24:05):
A dead girl screams, and you're actually saying maybe she
died of natural causes.
Speaker 12 (24:12):
No, no, no, I'm saying there wasn't any natural If
they had found a natural cause, it would have released
that with the cause of death. So I'm saying that
they didn't find anything that would suggest a natural cause either.
To me, if I were a betting person, I would
put my chips in the toxicology pile, because, again, like
I said, not having any violent means identify at autopsy,
(24:35):
I would I would wait for the toxicology reports.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Okay, hold on, hold on, hold on, Cooin. Remember you're
a medical doctor. We're just mere mortals.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Dan Murphy, I want you to break it down and
cop taught everything Coin just said, because when he says
it's going to be toxicology. In other words, she could
have been slipped to rufi and had a reaction or
too minie rufies, think Natalie Hollow, Remember Natalie who you're
in vander slut, who lies through his rear end. Just
(25:06):
imagine that, just one moment, lying through your rear end. Yeah,
that would be right lying through his rear end. That
she choked on her own vomit. And we all believe
she had been slipped a substance in her drink at
Carlos and Charlie's that would be voluntary manslaughter at the least,
(25:29):
if not murder, felony murder. In other words, when you
slip somebody a roofie, a date rape, drug, or anything
in their drink, that is an aggravated assault, akin to
shooting them or stabbing them or hitting them in the
head with a rock. That's an aggravated assault. So if
someone dies during an aggravated assault or any other felony
(25:50):
like burglary, like rape, that equals felony murder. A death
occurred during the commission of a felony, it can be
any felony, but if a death occurs during it.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Here's a great example.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
You and I decide to rob a bank, and before
we go in, I say, listen, Murphy, and nobody's dying today.
Nobody's going to die. Okay, don't pull your gun. You
go in and the first thing you do is shoot
the teller dead. I'm just trying to get some money,
but I'm going to be charge of felony murder because
(26:25):
a death occurred while I'm committing a felony. So if
anyone puts something in her drink and she dies, that
can be a felony murder. So when he is saying toxicology,
that can mean a whole lot of things.
Speaker 5 (26:41):
Yeah, toxicology is going to tell you a lot of things,
but it may not tell you a lot of things
exactly how those substances got into her body. If that
is what the cause of death is determined to be. Now,
in that situation, we always look at the totality of
the circumstances. We had these screams being heard by other
people in an area where you do not hear screams
unless it's probably somebody laughing loud. We've got screams heard
(27:03):
from a young woman on a yacht. We've got a
naked guy running around screaming like a lunatic. That's my girlfriend.
That's my girlfriend.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
You know another thing, Hold on right there, right there,
Dan Murphy, before we lose the thought, Greg Morris.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Something Murphy just said.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Normally, if this were anywhere but the Hampton's, you would
see the boyfriend, the naked boyfriend, and he would be
on the front page of the post with a little
black box digitally removed penis. Okay, we wouldn't show that.
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He'd be on the front of the Hampton's News. The
Montak news, the everything. But we can't even get his
name again. He hasn't been charged with anything, but I
mean something. The owner of the yacht, the witness. Why
aren't we seeing anything? And no one has attributed any
(28:02):
wrongdoing to him?
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Yet where is he?
Speaker 2 (28:06):
No?
Speaker 8 (28:07):
Yeah, well that's again, like the other people have talked about.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
This is a wealthy area.
Speaker 8 (28:12):
It's right by the Memory Motel made famous by the
Rolling Stones. They made a song about the hotel. But
this is being kept quiet because it's a rich dip
code and it'll hurt tourism. And this is what happens
in places that perceive themselves as special because of money.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
During a glamorous summer trip in montac New York, thirty
three year old Martha Nolan o'slatter up or is a
so called party vote, but her dream life takes a
chilling turn.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Party girl, party girl, party girl. Why are they saying
that about her? Do they think we won't care? They
did something similar in the Long Island serial killer case
Rex Huerman Mahee Rottenhill waiting for trial, who murdered one
sex worker after the next, after the next. Is even
a child that was murdered? I guess because the child
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was with the mom. All of those victims have been
dragged through the mud like we wouldn't care about them.
Are they doing the same thing with Martha? How would
you feel? This your child? And she's being portrayed like that.
She is anything but a party girl.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Listen.
Speaker 7 (29:21):
Growing up, Martha studies commerce at university before earning a
master's in Digital marketing from the Smurfit Business School. Describing
herself as the small town girl who needed to get
out to achieve her big dreams, Martha says fashion is
a tough industry and it would be a slow road.
At twenty six, she leaves her small town and relocates
in New York City. Martha begins launching pop up events
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to promote her summerware fashion label East by East in
the Hamptons and quickly gains recognition Bush.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Yeah. We launched about two years ago and.
Speaker 6 (29:54):
We had a first retail location pop up in montal
in the Montepee House, and Yeah, will be going back
there this.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Summer, so you will see us there.
Speaker 6 (30:06):
We'll be doing some brand activations, some brand partnerships, some
like wellness stuff, and we will also of course throw
some parties, some cool parties with really cool DJs. So yeah, stay.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Tuned for that.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
I wonder how much she was trying to scramble to
find a place to throw a pool party for her
rich clients.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
But listen to what she did.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
She grows up in a small town, studies commerce at
university before getting a master's degree in digital marketing, and
somehow reaches her goal of relocating in New York City.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Very hard to do.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
It is a dog eat dog world, launching pop up
events to promote her fashion label, and finally she launches
a retail location in montaut Walton Beach House. Wow, Okay,
Sidney Sumner joining US Crime Stories investigative reporter.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
What can you tell me about that?
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Because I'm thinking, sid she put all this online. Anybody
can read it. She's basically saying here, I am, come
and get me.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
Yes.
Speaker 11 (31:22):
She was a very frequent social media user because she
needed to promote her fashion line and now there was
a separate social media presence for East by East. But
Martha Nolan herself was also always posting about her brand,
trying to make it bigger. So lots of people knew
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who she was, had met her in person. I'm sure
she spent day and Dave at her papa, So it
wasn't just somebody running it. I'm sure she was there
herself as someone who is so driven and wants to
succeed and wants their brand to say seed. And it's
also heartbreaking. We saw a post from Martha's best friend
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who funded East by East saying goodbye to her and
saying what a good friend she was and how inspired
and how successful he hoped she would be with this line.
So it was heartbreaking to see that. But yeah, so
people were very, very familiar with her life just from
her social media presence.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
That brings it up to it was a whole investigation,
up to a lot more suspects because of her social
media presence advertising where she is. But what do we
know about that night?
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Listen it's such a chill resort.
Speaker 13 (32:42):
It's such a chill atmosphere and you never see anything
remotely like this, so it was unnerving.
Speaker 7 (32:49):
After the East Hampton Town police and first responders pronounced
Martha dead, the county's homicide squad arrives on scene around
four am and takes over the investigation. The preliminary investigation
in an examiner and conclusive regarding the cause of death.
And an autopsy was performed by the Suffolk County Medical Examiner.
Final cause of death is pending further examination.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
So you just think of mon Talk as you know,
a happy place.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
Yeah, and people come out here to vacation, spend their
time with their family.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Well, just a very small quaint safetown. From our friends
at NBC Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
To doctor Thomas Coin, medical examiner, pathologists, toxicologists, neuropathologists.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
What will they be doing in the.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
Autopsy to determine cood specifically since they're telling us right
now that there's not any obvious sign of death, in
other words, no stab marks. But you know, when you
think about it, doctor Coin, remember Ellen Greenberg stabbed thirty
times and including in the back, and the police said
that was a suicide. Okay, with Epstein, he's clearly got
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a ligature mark across horizontally his neck, not a U
shape mark he would find in a hanging, and they.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
Said that was a suicide.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
So how will we get the truth and what will
the corn Or medical examiner be looking at to determine
her cod.
Speaker 12 (34:24):
And those two examples, the problem really was a matter
of death. But because of death in this case, they
did a thorough autopsy which included an external and internal examination,
so they would have been able to determine if she
had any fatal injuries as I mentioned, skull fractures, bleeding
in the brain or around the brain, stab wounds, gunshot wounds,
or evidence of strangulation. With regards to natural disease, obviously
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there's no significant natural disease processes, but they're probably going
to continue to do additional histological sections.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
Can you say that, DoD Coin.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
Yeah, can we clarify when you say no, some natural
disease you mean like cancer.
Speaker 12 (35:03):
No obvious cancer or structural heart defects. So a young
person very rare for a person and for rage to
have a heart attack, right, but there are certain underlying
cardiomyopathies or genital heart defects that can cause a sudden
cardiac rhythmia where they could you know, the heartstop put
them up.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
You're back on a heart attack on a young girl,
on a young with a naked friend at mid time.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Well, sure, I've seen everything you need to get.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Off the natural causes doctor, and I'm going back to
natural causes.
Speaker 12 (35:35):
It was a natural cause. You ask me what they're
doing with the autopsy procedure. Because they did not find
anything to indicate a fatal injury, They're going to look
a little bit deeper to make sure there wasn't an
underlying genetic variation that could cause a sudden part rhythm
abnormality while they're waiting for toxicology results to come back.
So they're going to keep everything open just to make
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sure they can find the cause of death. But right now,
there's no obvious cause of that. There's no fatal injury
that they could see on the external or internal examination. So,
like I said, right now, they're going to follow up
toxicology testing and they may do additional testing to try
to catch something that they couldn't see with their eyes
at the autopic So for instance, like mildcarditis or inflammation
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in the brain, something that you have to use a
microscope to find. That's a last ditch resort finding. But
right now they're just waiting on toxicology because there was
no obvious fatal injury that they were able to see
during the autopo.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
Don't you coin, how do you determine if someone was
for instance, slift slip to Ruthie ghb Gamma hydroxyped, right,
how do you determine that?
Speaker 12 (36:40):
So I would have a toxicology report that would just
label or identify, excuse me, the drugs that were found.
If it's an unusual substance like rue, hypnol or or
for instance, GHB, you would have to then turn back
to your law enforcement officers and try to figure out
how they obtained that drug. Because at autopsy and even
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the toxicology if where wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
Mean how do you physically do it? Coin?
Speaker 2 (37:06):
Do you take tissue? What is tissue? How much do
you take? Where do you get it? Do you draw blood?
How long can you draw? How long can you have
a dead body and still draw blood? I mean, how
do you get it?
Speaker 11 (37:18):
Sure?
Speaker 12 (37:19):
So we take blood at autopsy, we get blood if available,
We'll try to get any other fluids that may be
present in the body, so I fluid or vitreous fluid.
We get urine, we can get bile. We can also
get tissue. So sometimes our cases are decomposed, we'll have
to try to obtain tissue to see if we can
find the presence of a drug. That may not allow
us to tell you the amount of the drug or
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a good idea of what that person had in their
system at the time of death, but it at least
allow us to identify a drug. And in this case,
she was pronounced dead on scene, but there was no
evidence of decomposition. She probably died at some time after
midnight before she was found, so therefore she should have
plenty of blood for testing as well as other fluids.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
As the body ages say, when you're getting to two hours,
five hours, ten hours, is it harder to get blood
out of a body to test? And when you say
we obtain tissue, what does that mean? You scrape some
sen skin cells, you get a piece of her liver,
What does that mean?
Speaker 1 (38:17):
Break it down. I didn't get my MD. I'm just
a trial will really.
Speaker 11 (38:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 12 (38:22):
Absolutely, So it's very easy to obtain blood at autopsy
from a person who is recently deceased. So all the
blood is still going to be present within their vascular
system and within their hearts. So we try to obtain
blood from both a peripheral source and a heart source
because after death, drugs are in blood can redistribute, so
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you want to make sure you're not looking at an
abnormal finding, So you want to get both blood sites
to compare for toxicology for tissue. As I mentioned, you can.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
Mean man speak English. Sure, sure. When you say obtain blood, I.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
Mean put in a needle and you would draw blood
just like you would a living person would at the doctor.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
Two sides. What do you mean by that one off?
This on, one off, that on?
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Or do you mean blood and vitreous fluid from the eye?
Speaker 1 (39:14):
What is bile? Man, have to work with you before
I put you on.
Speaker 12 (39:18):
A stand cooin you get You get blood from a
peripheral source like thephemeral vein. You know your leg vein.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
Uh.
Speaker 12 (39:26):
So I'm doing the autopsy, I'm opening the body up.
I have access to all of those blood vessels as
well as the heart. So you literally use a needle
and you have pain blood from the heart, or you
have pain blood from any vein that you can find that.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
Has a visible blood.
Speaker 12 (39:39):
You have access to the bladder, so you literally put
a needle into the bladder and you and you pull
urine out. You have access to the eye, so you
put a needle in the eyes and you pull vitreous
flud out. Your bile is in your gall bladder, under
your liver. You're pain bile. You try to get as
much fluid as you can. Then you have access to
liver tissue for testing. You may also get scale of muscle.
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You can get brain tissue for testing, so you're shry
to obtained as many tissues as you can so you
have plenty of samples for testing.
Speaker 3 (40:09):
Blood curdling screams heard in the middle of the night
at the Montaque Yacht Club. First responders board the boat
to find thirty three year old Martha nolan Oslatterer unconscious.
Speaker 5 (40:19):
A night of partying now shrouded in mystery.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
A night of partying is he talking about? We don't
know that. All we know she's dead on a yacht.
She's very young, very beautiful.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
Screams wake up neighbors, and a naked man's running around.
That's what I know, And I am not buying natural causes.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
Oh no, Why is.
Speaker 2 (40:43):
She being painted as a so called party girl? Sounds
to me that she worked her whole life to get
where she is right now and finally had a tiny
taste of success. Anna is dead on a yacht. This
is not going to be swept under any rug. I
don't care if it's a fancy Persian rug. And somebody's
second mansion in mon Talk. No, Anne, Oh, it's not
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the first time murder has scarred the Hamptons, although they
would like you to think that's never happened. Does the
name Sabina Korhamdale ring a bell?
Speaker 13 (41:22):
And he was supporting Sabina for I believe the two
years they were together. He was really helping to support
her artistic endeavors.
Speaker 10 (41:32):
New York artist Sabina korum Del has made quite the
name for herself with an art theory blog, The Ruo Journal.
But funding Sabina's lifestyle is her boyfriend Thomas Gannon. The
couple checks into the ritzy Hampton spa Shashshoogie Bon House,
but come Monday morning, a housekeeper finds Sabina violently murdered
and Gannon nowhere to be found. Speaking with her lift
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driver on the way to the spa, a reporter discovers
the driver actually took Gann into his Pennsylvania home hours
before Sabina was found dead.
Speaker 13 (42:04):
The woman that I'm actually reporting on was found dead
in Harum, you know, hours later. My gut instinct was like,
this is just too strange. What would a man be
walking out of a spot at eat in the morning
asking for a lift.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
That's from our friends at True Crime News. Wow, does
anybody see the similarities to doctor Chloe Carmichael joining us
renowned psychologist doctor Chloe another young, beautiful female entrepreneur dead Hampton's.
Speaker 9 (42:38):
Yes, Nancy, it's really quite incredible. Obviously, we don't know
if there's a connection. But what we do know, of
course about the Hamptons is that there's a lot of
power and a lot of money. Sometimes that can create
a lot of drive and a lot of passion, maybe
people who feel like they're very used to getting their
own way. Also, Unfortunately, I've been to the Hamptons myself.
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I've not participated in the drug culture there, but I
have witnessed it firsthand. We do know that things can
get very hot, very out of hand in the Hamptons,
so perhaps that we do have some foul play at
issue here.
Speaker 1 (43:14):
I've been there too normally.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
When I was invited to speak for a charity, I
was totally a dog upstairs. You know, he knows he's
not supposed to be up there, but he's up there, right.
He knows he's going to get in trouble for being there.
That's what that felt like it wasn't just Sabina ted
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am On the.
Speaker 3 (43:39):
Hampton sees a murder investigation when ted Amman is found
beaten to death in his multimillion dollar mansion, just a
day before he was set to sign divorce papers with
wife gener Rosa, who had already moved on with high
school dropout and convicted felon Danny Pelosi. The couple Mary's
just three months later, Generosa and Pelosi already under suspicion
for a murder. Pelosi challenges Generosi's will and more.
Speaker 14 (44:03):
On Emmon And it was that weekend that had had
to die because Monday the agreement was supposed to be
signed only one hundred times.
Speaker 5 (44:13):
One hundred times maybe it's going to be happy, but
one hundred times he likes to kill a hud.
Speaker 13 (44:18):
The person who committed the crime is the one that
took the hot drive out and disposed of it.
Speaker 5 (44:25):
And who was that person?
Speaker 1 (44:27):
Oh, that was definitely Danny Pelosi.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
That from our friends at forty eight hours. What rich
people do for even more money? I mean Dan Murphy
homicide Detective that Starved Goldshields podcast. You know, it's a
whole nother mindset. What really wealthy people will do they'll
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kill to get more money so that nobody, as they
perceive it, takes their money, or to cover up something
normally to do with money.
Speaker 1 (45:01):
It's it's hard to get into their heads.
Speaker 5 (45:04):
Yeah, when it comes to money in greed, I've seen
people out of greed do things that they probably would
never have envisioned themselves doing. And there's also the desire
to hold onto or build upon a lifestyle that you want,
and this has driven many people to either hire someone
to kill somebody or to take it into their own hands.
This is not uncommon at all, and it's a motivating
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factor from many people for homicide.
Speaker 2 (45:27):
If you know or think you know anything about the
death of this beautiful young fashion designer found dead on
somebody's expensive yacht, please dial six' three to one eight
five two six three ninety six six' three one eight
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five to two six three Nine Six nancy gray signing off.
Speaker 1 (45:54):
Goodbye friend
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Midnight screams.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
A beautiful young fashion designer found dead on a Hampton's yacht.
And I can tell you this, nothing good happens after midnight. Midnight,
Hampton's is the playground for millionaires. A dead woman on
a yacht. I'm easy, Grace, this is Crime Stories. I
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want to thank you for being with us.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Blood curdling screams heard in the middle of the night
at the Montaka Yacht Club. First responders board the boat
to find thirty three year old Martha nolan Oslatterer unconscious.
A night of partying now shrouded in mystery.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
I can't stress it enough.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
I've told a million juries this nothing good happens after midnight,
and all of the wealthy neighbors thereby that yacht club
here screams at midnight and a woman's body found on
one of the yachts. Dot there straight out to Tasa Tails,
joining us investigative reporter star of Tasa Tales on YouTube
(01:14):
Tisa what do we know right now?
Speaker 4 (01:17):
What we know right now is that this woman was
found unresponsive. There was a naked man screaming in an
elusive private club. But the thing is the police aren't
giving that much information. But if you know anything about
the Hamptons and you know anything about Montalk, what they're
not telling us is explaining the whole story. Montalk is
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literally the end of the Hamptons. It is exclusive, it
is wealthy, it is sexy, but it is also very quiet,
unlike the Hamptons. When wherever something happens in Montak. In
Hampton's it's on the front page of page six and Montak,
things quietly get swept under the rug. They're letting us know.
(01:57):
Oh you know, they're not released who actually found them.
The boyfriend's name, which is highly unusual. It was his shot.
He owns Tune in the Marina. And lets you know,
this man either comes from deep pockets, deep money, maybe both.
When you get into Montak, billionaires go to play. Everybody
knows everybody. She was very well known. But yet, but yet,
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there is hardly anything in the media being released about this.
A lot of residents are thinking that something is being
swept under the rug.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
And let me just tell you something about Montak.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
There have been confirmed drug rings where it's for limmel.
Drivers are delivering drugs flown in fresh from the dr
This has been confirmed. There are billionaires, there are wanna
be billionaires.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
I mean in tasa tails.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
You're telling me that unlike a lot of people I've
prosecuted that sailed up on the corner. The people are
so rich in the Hamptons, and Montak is at the
very tip of the island, which means you're not just wealthy,
you're megawealthy because you're away from the great unwashed that
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are at the rest of the Hamptons and they have
their dope flown and from Dominican Republic to be delivered.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
Did you just say that white glove service, Nancy, white
glove service. It is literally a white glove service where
you get an exclusive list of not.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Just the drugs that the commoners use.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
You know, there's cope, there's MDA, there are designer drugs
flown in especially and is delivered white glove service. I
think about four rings so far have been busted. But
this goes into the Montague. Why haven't you heard that?
Because things get swept under the rug. You look at
the Montaks. If you do any research, they'll be the
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first to tell you we've never had any instances with murder.
And what has been a bastion of the wealthy, the billionaires,
the parties, and all those sturdy little secrets that come
with it. You cannot find anything. It's actually irregular and
absurd to think where there is that much money, power
and hangar ones that nothing in the whole history of
(04:17):
Montak has happened besides the designer drug delivery service. Again,
the reason why all eyes are on Montak, or, as
they like to call it, the End, is the fact
that things get brushed under. People might be paid off,
people might be might be scared to speak, but the
billionaires love to keep it quiet. So all eyes in
(04:39):
New York are looking into what's going on in Montak
because at the end of the day, it's so exclusive.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Even most New Yorkers don't.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
Know what happens behind that facade.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Straight out to Dan Murphy joining US former NYPD detective sergeant,
Joint Terrorism Task Force now star of the Goal Shows podcast. Dan,
She's right, we never hear about anything going wrong in
the Hampton's much less Montalk. You might see a movie
(05:08):
here and there, you know you just had murder in
the Hampton's blah blah blah, but it's all make believe.
Why do we never hear about the real truth. There's
got to be crime in the Hamptons, Suffolk.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
County, and that whole area is there's a lot of
money out there, and where there's money, there is a
media control, whether it's real or implied. And I think
out there you will never hear all that dirt unless
they want you to hear it. This is an area
that is so exclusive. People have so much money they
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want to keep it as clean as possible. They do
not want their dirty laundry aired, and they will go
to great lengths to do that. They have to keep
the property values up. They have to keep the money
flowing out. The rich people have to feel they can
go there safely and do whatever it is they want
to do. Most don't do illicit things, but some do.
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This is an area where you're going to see people
who are going to turn a blind eye to things
and just either not want to believe it. It's not
too different from the Upper East Side of Manhattan. People
think the Upper east Side of Manhattan is just a
playground for the rich. In many ways, it can be,
but there's also dirtiness behind the covers.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
You know, Dan Murphy, when you hear phrases thrown around
like police are being tight lipped. We can't get answers.
Nobody's talking, swept under the rug. You don't know where
to start exactly. We know so little about this. Basically
we had to fight to find out the name of
the yacht. It's Ripple that said, when you don't know
(06:40):
where to start, you start with the victim.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Who is she? Listen?
Speaker 6 (06:46):
Hi, I'm Martha, the founder, CEO, crew director. You name
us of East Way East. We are launching a resort
waar Line soon. We just got our first ridings humble Back,
and I want you to share first lucks with you
and see what you think. We got another coachet. This
is flor Lem, absolutely stunning on a tritter on I
(07:12):
think this will be a bestseller.
Speaker 7 (07:14):
Living her best life, posting pictures with friends on private jets,
helicopters and yachts. Martha is becoming a legend as the
founder of fashion label East by East.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Straight out to Greg Morse, veteran trial lawyer, criminal defense
attorney at Morse Legal and author of the Untested on Amazon, Greg,
she's being made out to be a party girl. I
don't think that's true and I'll tell you why. Everything
I have been able to find out about her is
that she was raised in a very small town, very
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small town. Her dream was to quote make it in
New York, and she has worked night and day, claude
tooth and nail to create her own business. I don't
know if this is the Hampton's pr machine behind the scenes,
painting her to be the party girl so people don't care. Basically,
(08:10):
she asked for it, she got it. Have you ever
seen that happen where the victim is maligned?
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Yeah, you see.
Speaker 8 (08:18):
That in these wealthy areas. I've been practicing law for
twenty five years in Palm Beach, one of the wealthiest
zip codes in the world, and police law enforcement in
these places like in Montalk the Hampton's a rich zip code, They're,
in my opinion, paid to keep things quiet for the residents.
(08:39):
Tisa hit the nail on the head when she talked
about these communities wanting to present safety, wanting to present
there's no crime. We see that a lot also in
Boca Raton in South Florida. The way statistics are manipulated
so they want to In this case, it sounds like
they're trying to make it seem like maybe she didn't
belong who cares a quote unquote you know person's that's
(09:03):
not normal out here, so this won't happen again. She
does seem a little bit like maybe accelerating her success
through social media.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Crime stories with Nancy Grace.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
You know, I want to go to doctor Chloe Carmichael
jumping off what Greg Morse just told us. Doctor Chloe
renowned psychologist and author of Nervous Energy Harness The Power
of Your Anxiety Dodtor Chloe. Much has been made also,
not only for her being called a party girl, which
I don't think is true from what I can tell
(09:47):
about the victim.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
She has worked, as.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
I said, day and night, climbed tooth and claw to
create her business. You know how hard it is to
break into fashion designing people before they even start, because
it's so hard to do much less in New York City,
And somehow she managed to get in out in the Hamptons. Also,
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she's being mocked for what she posts online. Hey, so
many people do it. They make their life seem ideally.
My daughter was looking up breakfasts the other day on
Insta and getting recipes, and she makes these beautiful organic
breakfasts for herself, and it shows somebody like posing looking
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at the sunrise in a yoga position with a bowl
of organic strawberries in front of them. Really, that is
not real. So I don't fault her. I mean, look
at the Kardashians, You think all that's real.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
No, it's not.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
A lot of it is posed to give an image,
an image that will help them with their business. They're
not idiots. Okay, that's what she's doing. And I don't
like her being mocked for it.
Speaker 9 (10:57):
No, Absolutely, Nancy, as you said, in New York City
to make it in the fashion world. Even the young
people from FIT, the Fashion Institute there that I've worked with,
there are some of the most hardworking, not to mention
oftentimes beautiful, just like this beautiful young woman. And so no,
I definitely wouldn't think that just because she's putting out
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great content online that hello, she's in the fashion business.
Of course she's going to be putting out, you know,
image conscious material. That makes perfect sense. And to your
point earlier about nothing good happening after midnight, from a
psychological perspective, it's actually very true because tempers flair people sometimes.
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You know, if there was foul play here people could
you know, maybe have been drinking all day or using
drugs throughout the day. Also on a yacht, we're talking
about a place that's off limits to the police, for example,
So there's a very a sense of privacy.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Guys, we're showing video that she has posted. Now, I
guarantee you she is sharing this private plane with somebody.
Somebody's given her a ride and she is, like so
many celebrities, giving the appearance that she has a private plane. Well,
she is on a private plane. They cost a lot
of money, over twenty grand. Let's take a look at more.
(12:18):
What more do we know about Martha?
Speaker 6 (12:21):
Hello, Hello, my name is Martha. I am the founder
and CEO of East by East. So east by East
is Ainger's warber Brant. East by East stands for new
Work for the Hamptons. A tagline is built in the city,
made for the Sun. I absolutely adore it. I think
it resonates with so many people on so many levels
because it at some point everyone in their lives are
(12:44):
you know, grinding city life. But everyone's just destined for
the Sun. I know I am, and pretty much everyone
else is. So I think it's very fitting.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
She was putting out the social putting it out, putting
it out, trying to get eyes on her workplace, her
fashion designs. But what about the night she's found dead
on a yacht.
Speaker 10 (13:10):
Listen, just after midnight, the calm over the serene Montauk
Yacht Club is shattered by the sounds of a scream.
Passers by rush to a boat in the marina where
a man is standing over an unconscious woman. Soon, the
marina is filled with the sound of sirens, but the
woman isn't rushed to the hospital. First responders to clear
the woman dead on the scene. When Martha Nolan's boyfriend,
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the owner of the yacht named Ripple, is seen running
naked and screaming, regulars at the Montak Yacht Club in
East Hampton aren't shocked, accustomed to the owner being drunk
and always messed up.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Wait, did I just hear Tisa tales that a guy's
running around naked?
Speaker 1 (13:49):
So I'm gonna throw that into the mix.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
She's dead on a yacht in Montak the Hamptons after midnight,
and now I've got a guy run around naked, correct.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Running around and screaming at the top of his lungs.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
That's my girlfriend. That's my girlfriend running around naked. No
one knew what to do.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
The police were actually on the scene from four am on.
I reached out to my sources that are actually in
the mon Talk area, the Hampton's area. And the most
shocking thing about this that have people scratching their head
about what exactly happened to that girlfriend. Even though police
are actively on that scene, they were actively looking for clues.
(14:35):
This is an active investigation. Again, the police cannot say
what exactly happened. They are even puzzled. And while people
police are looking for evidence, people are in the pool
lounging like nothing happens. Again, it makes me look at
mom talks their crime figures of nothing ever happens here.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
It makes me side eye.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
Them because even when something has happened, people seem to
not here. It really gets a sinister angle to what's
going on. Again, we have to wait for the results
of the investigation. But something is not right. It is
giving twin peaks David Lynch era creepiness surround it by money,
wealth and influence.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Dan Murphy, that's total bs. They have no idea what
happened to her.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
I mean, you can look at a body and teil
is it stabbed where they strangled? Can't always tell if
they're affixiated or suffocated. You can very often tell if
somebody's been poisoned by the way they smell, or whether
there's phone coming out of their mouth. That sometimes takes toxicology.
Ods take toxicology. But you look for bruises, you look
(15:43):
for injection sites. There is no way they have no
idea what happened to her.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
That's not true.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
When you look at a scene. A scene will tell
you a great many things about what happened to that
body at the scene. That's why crime scene investigation and
evidence recoveries important and documentation of that. In this situation,
any dead body that's found under suspicious circumstances that area
is considered a crime scene. Whether or not there was
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alcohol or drugs or anything else in that area, we
don't know. They're being tight lipped, as they said, and
they might be tight lipped. It might be small.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Dan Murphy up, you know, Dan Murphy.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Look, nobody on this panel just fell off the turnip truck.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Murphy.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
You put a dead woman after midnight on a yacht
in the Hampton's screams and a naked guy. Is somebody
suggesting that this was just death by natural cause? Is
what this young girl kills?
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Ever? With what a heart attack?
Speaker 5 (16:51):
I'm not suggesting that. I mean, I don't know, but
I do know this much. I know that the scene
will tell you a great deal more they haven't told
us self the body. You're right when you examine a
body of the scene that's not nearly as thorough as
an autopsy. However, there are many things you can look
for that will tell you something about the death. Evidence
of particular hemorrhaging will tell you if there's asphyxia.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
The beautiful thirty three year old shares glimpses of her
life online pop up shops in Montauk, New York, rooftop drinks,
and private jet getaways with her boyfriend. But behind the
curated posts, something darker may have been brewing.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
What happened to this beautiful young fashion designer that was
finally making it after working her fingers to the bone
for years and years, coming from a small town, getting
her education and working literally like a dog.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Then she's thrown into the.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Melieu at the Hampton's, specifically the Montauk Yacht Club. So
far they're not responding to calls and questions. Hmmm, wonder
why you know they don't want to be near anything
close to a dead woman's body on a yacht part
(18:08):
at their yacht club. No, no, wonder they're not returning
phone calls or emails. Same thing with the LA there
law enforcement. You can't put them down. Why the secrecy? Well,
first of all, when you don't know where to go,
you look at your victim, because that's all you've got.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Let's take another look at her.
Speaker 6 (18:28):
Hi, I'm Maithia's the founder, CEO, crew director, you name
it of East Way East. We are launching a resort
wear line soon. We just got our first riding shambles
back and I want you to share some first lucks
with you and see what you think. We got another crochet.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
This is floor them.
Speaker 6 (18:50):
You can see competing the details absolute, She's stunning.
Speaker 5 (18:55):
On.
Speaker 6 (18:55):
I tried it on.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
I think this will be a catering to the rich
and privilege.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
They're in the Hampton specifically mon Talk again joining me
in all star panels, Trade out to Sydney Sumner joining
me Crime Stories investigative reporter Sidney, what can you tell
me about the mon Talk yacht club.
Speaker 11 (19:15):
Well, Nancy, this is a very big yacht club, spanning
sixteen acres. They have access to one of the largest
marinas in the Hamptons. There's a restaurant, there's a pool,
they have caddle boards and chairs set out on the
beach for people to enjoy. They have tennis, there's plenty
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of space to host events. And as far as I know,
this is a very high end area. This is a
very expensive resort stay if you were to stay here
for the weekend, and I think it's frequented by celebrities.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Well mare, can you tell me, Lisa the mon talk
yach clubs exclusive.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
It is sexy.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
It is everything that you would see from a show
like Billions where they're having their summer holiday. The cheapest
room during high season is fifteen hundred okay. To dock
in the marina, they have some of the highest marina
docking fees to pull your boat.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Yacht whatever they want to call it.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
You know, rich people like calling yachts boats okay, whatever
they want to call it. The down play the old money.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
They have some of the highest docking fees.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
On top of that, the rich are coward are literally
fighting in line to get their boats ducked. They have
an exclusive private beach miles and miles some of the
best beach at the end of the Hampton's in Montak,
some of the best beach out there that is only
exclusive to the guests. You must be someone Okay, your
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bank account must have high self.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Esteem for you to be there.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
But the thing is about Montak that is actually really
offensive about the way they're classifying this victim as the
party girl. No offense, but if you are in the partying,
you will be in Hampton. Mom Talk is where people
that work hard, that are either generational or self made
money go to relax, have some glamour, but also disappear. Okay,
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a party boat in the mon Talk and with the
Monk Yacht Club at the dock is not going to
be accepted and it's not going to be tolerated.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Again, what do we have. A woman that got herself
out of a small town. Okay, rags the.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
Rich a story managed She managed funds, She managed a
lot of businesses until she got enough capital because she.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Was smart, she had a good brain on her shoulders.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
She got enough capital and a dog eat dog fashion industry, which, by.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
The way, in New York.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
Everybody's trying to be either a model, an actress, a
fashion designer. Everybody's trying to be in there. She rolls
to the top and a dog eat dog. Okay, and
she was there celebrating. Just three weeks earlier she had
finally launched her clothing brand, which was actually photographed.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
In Montalk by the Mon Talk Yacht Club.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
Okay, this girl was beautiful, smart, she was a go getter.
She was found in an exclusive yacht club. We're only
the wealthy goal to actually disappear. And wait a minute,
right there, that really narrows my suspects. If you're at
the quote exclusive mon Talk Yacht Club, I mean, how
many members are there?
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Again?
Speaker 2 (22:25):
I have a hard time Doctor Thomas Coin joining US
Chief Medical Examiner, District Team Medical Examiner's Office, State of Florida.
Never a lack of business, pathologist, toxicologist, neuropathologist, and more,
Doctor Coin. That's total bs that they have no idea
(22:45):
the COEOD cause of death.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
I was talking to Dan Murphy about it earlier.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Why would a cop even say that unless they wanted
to keep it on the low down, Because you can
look at a body and see is there a stab
Is there a gunshot wound?
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Is there ligature? Is there a manual? You can't always tell.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Asphyxiation, poison, OD, but you can get a really good idea.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Right. But yeah, there was no.
Speaker 12 (23:10):
Violent means of death here, But it doesn't mean that
she didn't die of something related to toxicology.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
I would also say.
Speaker 12 (23:18):
That, you know, in this case, there was no reporter
her having a significant natural disease. She's young, but you
know she could still have a pulmonary embolist or blood
clot in her lungs, or for instance, an a organized section,
perhaps even like a ruptured him up.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
There was a coin there, he is dot a coin, yep,
if there was something that was You.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Graduated near the top of your class in medical school.
I know you're a taschologist, a pathologist, and so much more,
but you're actually I had to see your face. I
want to make sure you're saying is with a straight face.
It's after midnight. You got a guy running around naked
and drunk, apparently on a yacht at Risimon taught Yut Club.
(24:05):
A dead girl screams, and you're actually saying maybe she
died of natural causes.
Speaker 12 (24:12):
No, no, no, I'm saying there wasn't any natural If
they had found a natural cause, it would have released
that with the cause of death. So I'm saying that
they didn't find anything that would suggest a natural cause either.
To me, if I were a betting person, I would
put my chips in the toxicology pile, because, again, like
I said, not having any violent means identify at autopsy,
(24:35):
I would I would wait for the toxicology reports.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Okay, hold on, hold on, hold on, Cooin. Remember you're
a medical doctor. We're just mere mortals.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Dan Murphy, I want you to break it down and
cop taught everything Coin just said, because when he says
it's going to be toxicology. In other words, she could
have been slipped to rufi and had a reaction or
too minie rufies, think Natalie Hollow, Remember Natalie who you're
in vander slut, who lies through his rear end. Just
(25:06):
imagine that, just one moment, lying through your rear end. Yeah,
that would be right lying through his rear end. That
she choked on her own vomit. And we all believe
she had been slipped a substance in her drink at
Carlos and Charlie's that would be voluntary manslaughter at the least,
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if not murder, felony murder. In other words, when you
slip somebody a roofie, a date rape, drug, or anything
in their drink, that is an aggravated assault, akin to
shooting them or stabbing them or hitting them in the
head with a rock. That's an aggravated assault. So if
someone dies during an aggravated assault or any other felony
(25:50):
like burglary, like rape, that equals felony murder. A death
occurred during the commission of a felony, it can be
any felony, but if a death occurs during it.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Here's a great example.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
You and I decide to rob a bank, and before
we go in, I say, listen, Murphy, and nobody's dying today.
Nobody's going to die. Okay, don't pull your gun. You
go in and the first thing you do is shoot
the teller dead. I'm just trying to get some money,
but I'm going to be charge of felony murder because
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a death occurred while I'm committing a felony. So if
anyone puts something in her drink and she dies, that
can be a felony murder. So when he is saying toxicology,
that can mean a whole lot of things.
Speaker 5 (26:41):
Yeah, toxicology is going to tell you a lot of things,
but it may not tell you a lot of things
exactly how those substances got into her body. If that
is what the cause of death is determined to be. Now,
in that situation, we always look at the totality of
the circumstances. We had these screams being heard by other
people in an area where you do not hear screams
unless it's probably somebody laughing loud. We've got screams heard
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from a young woman on a yacht. We've got a
naked guy running around screaming like a lunatic. That's my girlfriend.
That's my girlfriend.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
You know another thing, Hold on right there, right there,
Dan Murphy, before we lose the thought, Greg Morris.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Something Murphy just said.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Normally, if this were anywhere but the Hampton's, you would
see the boyfriend, the naked boyfriend, and he would be
on the front page of the post with a little
black box digitally removed penis. Okay, we wouldn't show that.
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He'd be on the front of the Hampton's News. The
Montak news, the everything. But we can't even get his
name again. He hasn't been charged with anything, but I
mean something. The owner of the yacht, the witness. Why
aren't we seeing anything? And no one has attributed any
(28:02):
wrongdoing to him?
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Yet where is he?
Speaker 2 (28:06):
No?
Speaker 8 (28:07):
Yeah, well that's again, like the other people have talked about.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
This is a wealthy area.
Speaker 8 (28:12):
It's right by the Memory Motel made famous by the
Rolling Stones. They made a song about the hotel. But
this is being kept quiet because it's a rich dip
code and it'll hurt tourism. And this is what happens
in places that perceive themselves as special because of money.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
During a glamorous summer trip in montac New York, thirty
three year old Martha Nolan o'slatter up or is a
so called party vote, but her dream life takes a
chilling turn.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Party girl, party girl, party girl. Why are they saying
that about her? Do they think we won't care? They
did something similar in the Long Island serial killer case
Rex Huerman Mahee Rottenhill waiting for trial, who murdered one
sex worker after the next, after the next. Is even
a child that was murdered? I guess because the child
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was with the mom. All of those victims have been
dragged through the mud like we wouldn't care about them.
Are they doing the same thing with Martha? How would
you feel? This your child? And she's being portrayed like that.
She is anything but a party girl.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Listen.
Speaker 7 (29:21):
Growing up, Martha studies commerce at university before earning a
master's in Digital marketing from the Smurfit Business School. Describing
herself as the small town girl who needed to get
out to achieve her big dreams, Martha says fashion is
a tough industry and it would be a slow road.
At twenty six, she leaves her small town and relocates
in New York City. Martha begins launching pop up events
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to promote her summerware fashion label East by East in
the Hamptons and quickly gains recognition Bush.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Yeah. We launched about two years ago and.
Speaker 6 (29:54):
We had a first retail location pop up in montal
in the Montepee House, and Yeah, will be going back
there this.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Summer, so you will see us there.
Speaker 6 (30:06):
We'll be doing some brand activations, some brand partnerships, some
like wellness stuff, and we will also of course throw
some parties, some cool parties with really cool DJs. So yeah, stay.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Tuned for that.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
I wonder how much she was trying to scramble to
find a place to throw a pool party for her
rich clients.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
But listen to what she did.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
She grows up in a small town, studies commerce at
university before getting a master's degree in digital marketing, and
somehow reaches her goal of relocating in New York City.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Very hard to do.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
It is a dog eat dog world, launching pop up
events to promote her fashion label, and finally she launches
a retail location in montaut Walton Beach House. Wow, Okay,
Sidney Sumner joining US Crime Stories investigative reporter.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
What can you tell me about that?
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Because I'm thinking, sid she put all this online. Anybody
can read it. She's basically saying here, I am, come
and get me.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
Yes.
Speaker 11 (31:22):
She was a very frequent social media user because she
needed to promote her fashion line and now there was
a separate social media presence for East by East. But
Martha Nolan herself was also always posting about her brand,
trying to make it bigger. So lots of people knew
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who she was, had met her in person. I'm sure
she spent day and Dave at her papa, So it
wasn't just somebody running it. I'm sure she was there
herself as someone who is so driven and wants to
succeed and wants their brand to say seed. And it's
also heartbreaking. We saw a post from Martha's best friend
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who funded East by East saying goodbye to her and
saying what a good friend she was and how inspired
and how successful he hoped she would be with this line.
So it was heartbreaking to see that. But yeah, so
people were very, very familiar with her life just from
her social media presence.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
That brings it up to it was a whole investigation,
up to a lot more suspects because of her social
media presence advertising where she is. But what do we
know about that night?
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Listen it's such a chill resort.
Speaker 13 (32:42):
It's such a chill atmosphere and you never see anything
remotely like this, so it was unnerving.
Speaker 7 (32:49):
After the East Hampton Town police and first responders pronounced
Martha dead, the county's homicide squad arrives on scene around
four am and takes over the investigation. The preliminary investigation
in an examiner and conclusive regarding the cause of death.
And an autopsy was performed by the Suffolk County Medical Examiner.
Final cause of death is pending further examination.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
So you just think of mon Talk as you know,
a happy place.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
Yeah, and people come out here to vacation, spend their
time with their family.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Well, just a very small quaint safetown. From our friends
at NBC Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
To doctor Thomas Coin, medical examiner, pathologists, toxicologists, neuropathologists.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
What will they be doing in the.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
Autopsy to determine cood specifically since they're telling us right
now that there's not any obvious sign of death, in
other words, no stab marks. But you know, when you
think about it, doctor Coin, remember Ellen Greenberg stabbed thirty
times and including in the back, and the police said
that was a suicide. Okay, with Epstein, he's clearly got
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a ligature mark across horizontally his neck, not a U
shape mark he would find in a hanging, and they.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
Said that was a suicide.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
So how will we get the truth and what will
the corn Or medical examiner be looking at to determine
her cod.
Speaker 12 (34:24):
And those two examples, the problem really was a matter
of death. But because of death in this case, they
did a thorough autopsy which included an external and internal examination,
so they would have been able to determine if she
had any fatal injuries as I mentioned, skull fractures, bleeding
in the brain or around the brain, stab wounds, gunshot wounds,
or evidence of strangulation. With regards to natural disease, obviously
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there's no significant natural disease processes, but they're probably going
to continue to do additional histological sections.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
Can you say that, DoD Coin.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
Yeah, can we clarify when you say no, some natural
disease you mean like cancer.
Speaker 12 (35:03):
No obvious cancer or structural heart defects. So a young
person very rare for a person and for rage to
have a heart attack, right, but there are certain underlying
cardiomyopathies or genital heart defects that can cause a sudden
cardiac rhythmia where they could you know, the heartstop put
them up.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
You're back on a heart attack on a young girl,
on a young with a naked friend at mid time.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Well, sure, I've seen everything you need to get.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Off the natural causes doctor, and I'm going back to
natural causes.
Speaker 12 (35:35):
It was a natural cause. You ask me what they're
doing with the autopsy procedure. Because they did not find
anything to indicate a fatal injury, They're going to look
a little bit deeper to make sure there wasn't an
underlying genetic variation that could cause a sudden part rhythm
abnormality while they're waiting for toxicology results to come back.
So they're going to keep everything open just to make
(35:57):
sure they can find the cause of death. But right now,
there's no obvious cause of that. There's no fatal injury
that they could see on the external or internal examination. So,
like I said, right now, they're going to follow up
toxicology testing and they may do additional testing to try
to catch something that they couldn't see with their eyes
at the autopic So for instance, like mildcarditis or inflammation
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in the brain, something that you have to use a
microscope to find. That's a last ditch resort finding. But
right now they're just waiting on toxicology because there was
no obvious fatal injury that they were able to see
during the autopo.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
Don't you coin, how do you determine if someone was
for instance, slift slip to Ruthie ghb Gamma hydroxyped, right,
how do you determine that?
Speaker 12 (36:40):
So I would have a toxicology report that would just
label or identify, excuse me, the drugs that were found.
If it's an unusual substance like rue, hypnol or or
for instance, GHB, you would have to then turn back
to your law enforcement officers and try to figure out
how they obtained that drug. Because at autopsy and even
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the toxicology if where wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
Mean how do you physically do it? Coin?
Speaker 2 (37:06):
Do you take tissue? What is tissue? How much do
you take? Where do you get it? Do you draw blood?
How long can you draw? How long can you have
a dead body and still draw blood? I mean, how
do you get it?
Speaker 11 (37:18):
Sure?
Speaker 12 (37:19):
So we take blood at autopsy, we get blood if available,
We'll try to get any other fluids that may be
present in the body, so I fluid or vitreous fluid.
We get urine, we can get bile. We can also
get tissue. So sometimes our cases are decomposed, we'll have
to try to obtain tissue to see if we can
find the presence of a drug. That may not allow
us to tell you the amount of the drug or
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a good idea of what that person had in their
system at the time of death, but it at least
allow us to identify a drug. And in this case,
she was pronounced dead on scene, but there was no
evidence of decomposition. She probably died at some time after
midnight before she was found, so therefore she should have
plenty of blood for testing as well as other fluids.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
As the body ages say, when you're getting to two hours,
five hours, ten hours, is it harder to get blood
out of a body to test? And when you say
we obtain tissue, what does that mean? You scrape some
sen skin cells, you get a piece of her liver,
What does that mean?
Speaker 1 (38:17):
Break it down. I didn't get my MD. I'm just
a trial will really.
Speaker 11 (38:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 12 (38:22):
Absolutely, So it's very easy to obtain blood at autopsy
from a person who is recently deceased. So all the
blood is still going to be present within their vascular
system and within their hearts. So we try to obtain
blood from both a peripheral source and a heart source
because after death, drugs are in blood can redistribute, so
(38:42):
you want to make sure you're not looking at an
abnormal finding, So you want to get both blood sites
to compare for toxicology for tissue. As I mentioned, you can.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
Mean man speak English. Sure, sure. When you say obtain blood, I.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
Mean put in a needle and you would draw blood
just like you would a living person would at the doctor.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
Two sides. What do you mean by that one off?
This on, one off, that on?
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Or do you mean blood and vitreous fluid from the eye?
Speaker 1 (39:14):
What is bile? Man, have to work with you before
I put you on.
Speaker 12 (39:18):
A stand cooin you get You get blood from a
peripheral source like thephemeral vein. You know your leg vein.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
Uh.
Speaker 12 (39:26):
So I'm doing the autopsy, I'm opening the body up.
I have access to all of those blood vessels as
well as the heart. So you literally use a needle
and you have pain blood from the heart, or you
have pain blood from any vein that you can find that.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
Has a visible blood.
Speaker 12 (39:39):
You have access to the bladder, so you literally put
a needle into the bladder and you and you pull
urine out. You have access to the eye, so you
put a needle in the eyes and you pull vitreous
flud out. Your bile is in your gall bladder, under
your liver. You're pain bile. You try to get as
much fluid as you can. Then you have access to
liver tissue for testing. You may also get scale of muscle.
(40:00):
You can get brain tissue for testing, so you're shry
to obtained as many tissues as you can so you
have plenty of samples for testing.
Speaker 3 (40:09):
Blood curdling screams heard in the middle of the night
at the Montaque Yacht Club. First responders board the boat
to find thirty three year old Martha nolan Oslatterer unconscious.
Speaker 5 (40:19):
A night of partying now shrouded in mystery.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
A night of partying is he talking about? We don't
know that. All we know she's dead on a yacht.
She's very young, very beautiful.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
Screams wake up neighbors, and a naked man's running around.
That's what I know, And I am not buying natural causes.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
Oh no, Why is.
Speaker 2 (40:43):
She being painted as a so called party girl? Sounds
to me that she worked her whole life to get
where she is right now and finally had a tiny
taste of success. Anna is dead on a yacht. This
is not going to be swept under any rug. I
don't care if it's a fancy Persian rug. And somebody's
second mansion in mon Talk. No, Anne, Oh, it's not
(41:09):
the first time murder has scarred the Hamptons, although they
would like you to think that's never happened. Does the
name Sabina Korhamdale ring a bell?
Speaker 13 (41:22):
And he was supporting Sabina for I believe the two
years they were together. He was really helping to support
her artistic endeavors.
Speaker 10 (41:32):
New York artist Sabina korum Del has made quite the
name for herself with an art theory blog, The Ruo Journal.
But funding Sabina's lifestyle is her boyfriend Thomas Gannon. The
couple checks into the ritzy Hampton spa Shashshoogie Bon House,
but come Monday morning, a housekeeper finds Sabina violently murdered
and Gannon nowhere to be found. Speaking with her lift
(41:55):
driver on the way to the spa, a reporter discovers
the driver actually took Gann into his Pennsylvania home hours
before Sabina was found dead.
Speaker 13 (42:04):
The woman that I'm actually reporting on was found dead
in Harum, you know, hours later. My gut instinct was like,
this is just too strange. What would a man be
walking out of a spot at eat in the morning
asking for a lift.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
That's from our friends at True Crime News. Wow, does
anybody see the similarities to doctor Chloe Carmichael joining us
renowned psychologist doctor Chloe another young, beautiful female entrepreneur dead Hampton's.
Speaker 9 (42:38):
Yes, Nancy, it's really quite incredible. Obviously, we don't know
if there's a connection. But what we do know, of
course about the Hamptons is that there's a lot of
power and a lot of money. Sometimes that can create
a lot of drive and a lot of passion, maybe
people who feel like they're very used to getting their
own way. Also, Unfortunately, I've been to the Hamptons myself.
(43:01):
I've not participated in the drug culture there, but I
have witnessed it firsthand. We do know that things can
get very hot, very out of hand in the Hamptons,
so perhaps that we do have some foul play at
issue here.
Speaker 1 (43:14):
I've been there too normally.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
When I was invited to speak for a charity, I
was totally a dog upstairs. You know, he knows he's
not supposed to be up there, but he's up there, right.
He knows he's going to get in trouble for being there.
That's what that felt like it wasn't just Sabina ted
(43:39):
am On the.
Speaker 3 (43:39):
Hampton sees a murder investigation when ted Amman is found
beaten to death in his multimillion dollar mansion, just a
day before he was set to sign divorce papers with
wife gener Rosa, who had already moved on with high
school dropout and convicted felon Danny Pelosi. The couple Mary's
just three months later, Generosa and Pelosi already under suspicion
for a murder. Pelosi challenges Generosi's will and more.
Speaker 14 (44:03):
On Emmon And it was that weekend that had had
to die because Monday the agreement was supposed to be
signed only one hundred times.
Speaker 5 (44:13):
One hundred times maybe it's going to be happy, but
one hundred times he likes to kill a hud.
Speaker 13 (44:18):
The person who committed the crime is the one that
took the hot drive out and disposed of it.
Speaker 5 (44:25):
And who was that person?
Speaker 1 (44:27):
Oh, that was definitely Danny Pelosi.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
That from our friends at forty eight hours. What rich
people do for even more money? I mean Dan Murphy
homicide Detective that Starved Goldshields podcast. You know, it's a
whole nother mindset. What really wealthy people will do they'll
(44:50):
kill to get more money so that nobody, as they
perceive it, takes their money, or to cover up something
normally to do with money.
Speaker 1 (45:01):
It's it's hard to get into their heads.
Speaker 5 (45:04):
Yeah, when it comes to money in greed, I've seen
people out of greed do things that they probably would
never have envisioned themselves doing. And there's also the desire
to hold onto or build upon a lifestyle that you want,
and this has driven many people to either hire someone
to kill somebody or to take it into their own hands.
This is not uncommon at all, and it's a motivating
(45:25):
factor from many people for homicide.
Speaker 2 (45:27):
If you know or think you know anything about the
death of this beautiful young fashion designer found dead on
somebody's expensive yacht, please dial six' three to one eight
five two six three ninety six six' three one eight
(45:48):
five to two six three Nine Six nancy gray signing off.
Speaker 1 (45:54):
Goodbye friend
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