August 26, 2024 • 40 mins
Investigators searching for Mamta Bhatt arrived at her home with search warrants and were shocked to find the house in disarray upon entering the front door.
They noticed packed luggage and, in plain view, passports belonging to Mamta's husband, Naresh, and their daughter, Neema. Inside the home, officers used Bluestar Technology, a forensic tool that reveals invisible blood traces at crime scenes, uncovering pools of blood and blood spatter throughout the house. In the master bedroom, the bed had been moved to block access to the closet. After moving the bed, detectives observed a light pink stain on the carpet, which they suspected to be blood.
Following the discovery of the light pink stain in the master bedroom, investigators noticed what appeared to be a blood trail leading from the bedroom to the master bathroom. Using Bluestar technology in the bathroom, detectives were shocked as the entire bathroom floor illuminated with what appeared to be blood.
In the master bathroom, investigators carefully removed the bathtub and confirmed, with the naked eye, what they believed to be blood—not only around the tub area but also trapped in the caulking. Investigators suspect that Naresh Bhatt killed his wife, dragged her body, creating a blood trail, and concealed it in a location that has yet to be discovered.
Although the body has not been found, investigators believe the amount of blood detected in the master bedroom and bathroom is inconsistent with survival. Naresh Bhatt has been charged with murdering his wife and concealing her body.
Joining Nancy Grace today:
- Nadia Navarro - Friend of Mamta and GoFundMe organizer
- Adrian Pokharel - Acquaintance of Mamta’s husband
- Dr. Angela Arnold – Psychiatrist, Atlanta GA. Expert in the Treatment of Pregnant/Postpartum Women, Former Assistant Professor of Psychiatry, Obstetrics and Gynecology: Emory University, Former Medical Director of The Psychiatric Ob-Gyn Clinic at Grady Memorial Hospital
- Brian Fitzgibbons – Search and Rescue expert; Vice President, Operations, USPA Nationwide Security; Instagram: uspa_nationwide_security
- Nana-Sentuo Bonsu - Reporter for FOX 5 Washington D.C. Station Website: X https://x.com/NSBonsu_/IG - https://www.instagram.com/nsbonsu_/?hl=en
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace the missing mom Manta just
twenty eight.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
In the last hours, we learn.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
About a pink stain according to police, on the carpet
in the home. We also learn invisible to the naked eye,
but discovered with luminol blood specs on the bathroom calking.
That bathtub now seized by police. I'm Nancy Grace, this
(00:36):
is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Mamta is an incredibly dedicated person. Being a nurse was
her absolute dream and she was completely committed to it.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
You don't become a nicku nurse without being a very,
very dedicated person. The gender reveal had already happened. They
knew they were having a baby girl.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Nothing was going to stop her.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Where is Mamta?
Speaker 1 (01:07):
In the last hour's disturbing evidence is being uncovered.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
We learn not only has luminol.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Detective blood in the bathroom, the bathtub has been seized,
also issues regarding blood traces in the master bedroom. Again,
thank you for being with us in our search for Mamta.
If you know or think you have evidence on her
whereabouts tip line seven zero three three six one one
(01:38):
one three six repeat seven zero three three six one one, one, three, six,
recall her entire family lives in Nepaul.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
She's got nobody. The search for her was launched by
her friends at a baby shower.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
They banded together to bring her case to the national
forefront and they have what does her husband have to say?
Let's start friends at WUSA.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
Yeah, it's been very terrible time. You know, like we
are just you know, like my baby and then myself,
we are just waiting minute and second, every minute and second,
just waiting like to get the you know, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
How to explain and more from our friends at WUSA.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Listen to Mamta's husband.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
Be like, you know, very good, like you know since
like two months, you know, like before that, you know,
one time we have like some arguments because you know, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Now I'm very curious about one other, well many other
statements made by her husband a reshpot.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
But I want you to hear this from WUSA nine.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
I'm the sufferer one. I'm the suffering my baby and
then myself, you know, like we are suffering the most.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
She's the one missing.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
I'm hearing about invisible to the naked eye, blood in
the bathtob blood and the caulking around the edges of
the bathtob blood traces in the bedroom, and he's suffering.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Can I hear that one more time?
Speaker 1 (03:17):
This is Manta's husband speaking to WUSA nine.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Listen, I'm the sofferer one.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
I'm the soffering my baby and then myself. You know,
like we are suffering the most.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
No, you're not. You are not suffering the most.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
That's just the kind of statement I don't want to hear.
Joining me in All Star panel to makes sense of
what we know right now. But I've got to go
before I go to our investigative reporter, I've got to
go straight out to one of Mamta's dear friends, who
actually brought this case to the forefront, who has been
looking for mom to, who has been at her own
(03:52):
expense being out there making digital flyers, putting them out
speaking for my has created a go fund me to
help the organization of the search. With me is Nadia Navarro?
Did you hear the husband say, and I quote, I'm
(04:13):
the suffering one. I'm suffering, we're suffering the most.
Speaker 5 (04:18):
What I think?
Speaker 3 (04:18):
He's a ridiculous man, truly, I think.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
A lot more than that. Can you expound.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
He just has no empathy and he's Tonda.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Okay, you know what, I think that you are kind
and gracious. I'm not let me go straight out to
Adrian pacarel who is an acquaintance of the husband.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Mister Pacarell served fourteen.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Years in the US Army, has been a congressional candidate,
and was an acquaintance with the husband. Not Esh, but
mister Parker, well, thank you for being with us. First
of all, you believe that you have been misconstrued in
the press, and I want to get to that in
(05:13):
just one moment, But first I want to deal with.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
The facts before us. His wife is missing, the mother
of his child.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Did you have any idea this guy would come out
with a statement I'm the one suffering.
Speaker 6 (05:29):
First of all, thank you for having me this statement.
Speaker 7 (05:34):
The guy pretty much if you asked me, I will
call him as a psychopath completely. A lot of lies there,
a lot of lies.
Speaker 6 (05:45):
He is lying again and again. Even the conversation he.
Speaker 7 (05:49):
Was having with some of the veterans who decided to
step in to ensure the babies protect him.
Speaker 8 (05:57):
We did not know the extreme he has gone, but
we definitely had a doubt that he has something.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
To do with it, because well, hold on, let me
be very clear at mister Pocarel before you go any further.
When you have a friend or an acquaintance and you
know them in routine life, you may have no idea
that they have a dark side.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
In fact, having prosecuted many many.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Violent felonies, more than I can even count, and worked
at the batter Women's Center, one thing about batterers and abusers.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
They can be very charming. And I've got Scott Peterson
on my mind.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
I don't know if you ever heard of him, but
he was convicted the murder of his wife and unborn son.
Yet everybody that knows him, other than Lacey's family, think
he was very charming outgoing the life of the party
you would never suspect. So I'm very curious about this dichotomy.
(07:00):
How someone can be so charming and likable to his friends,
but then at home he is.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
A violent abuser.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
And again, this guy mom to his husband Naresh Bot,
has not been convicted of anything, and under our jurisprudence,
he remains innocent until proven guilty if in fact he
ever goes to Traumba. Back to what I'm asking to Adrian, Pacarel.
(07:30):
You stated that you believe he lied to a group
of veterans he was speaking to what was he saying?
Speaker 8 (07:37):
The first question we all as there is do you
have anything to do with.
Speaker 6 (07:45):
Bus?
Speaker 8 (07:45):
The other veteran asks the same thing, But I was
just watching and trying to listen to his answer because.
Speaker 6 (07:51):
I told him, no, matter whatever it is, be honest, army.
We have you know, equals one of them. He is honest,
and I say, make sure you be honest whatever it is.
But he never answer that question, like if somebody.
Speaker 8 (08:08):
Asked me about my spouse and has anything to do
with it, it must likely might presently be.
Speaker 9 (08:14):
Are you out of your mind? What are you trying
to say? You know those kinds of things. But he
always say we haven't had any argument or since apric
four or five months.
Speaker 6 (08:27):
He'd never say yes or no. And that was right
there the indication that I picked, okay, he has something
to do.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
And joining me is a very dear friend of mom
tes Nadia Navarro, and a friend and acquaintance with the
husband and a restpot.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
So when you guys asked him, just be honest, did
you have anything to do with it? He wouldn't say yes.
Or no.
Speaker 6 (08:53):
I exactly never directly.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Asked him old on, I'm throwing this to Adrian, sorry,
Nadia agent. So the question is did he ever did
He never say yes or no.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
That's correct.
Speaker 8 (09:05):
He would never say yes or no. He would always
say we haven't had fight or even simple argument for four.
Speaker 6 (09:12):
Or five months.
Speaker 8 (09:14):
And that is really the first thing I picked on
the first time I met him in his house.
Speaker 6 (09:20):
First time I went to his house with other veterans,
because before this event, I have probably met him about
two to three times during the US.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
So he went into the home. When was that?
Speaker 8 (09:32):
So I was notified on the stext by the empolice reporter.
Speaker 6 (09:39):
Like I said, I knew him as a Nepali veteran,
Nepali American veteran. There's a group.
Speaker 8 (09:45):
When I talked on the phone, I asked him because
I'm an it is the survivor, and I'm a.
Speaker 6 (09:50):
Mental health advocat too, So I asked.
Speaker 8 (09:52):
Him if there's any bad talks in his head? He says,
a human you know here and there.
Speaker 7 (09:59):
So I immediately wanted to sit down and talk to him and.
Speaker 6 (10:04):
To see his behavior and be able to the time.
Speaker 8 (10:08):
So from there my biggest focus.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
So much ground to cover.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Let's switch off what we know of the husband's questionable
or curious behavior and talk about the evidence that we
believe was found in the home. Joining me is not
a saint to bone, soou investigative reporter of Fox five, Nana,
thank you.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
For being with us.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
What's your understanding of what has been found inside mom
to his home?
Speaker 5 (10:36):
Hey, Nancy, thanks for having me.
Speaker 10 (10:38):
So A lot of different things came out in the
court documents, but what we know for sure is that
there were some blood stains found somewhere near the master
bedroom and bathroom area. We also know that their bathtub
has been taking away for evidence. We were actually outside,
(10:58):
I believe it was Wensday when Prince William County Police
and NASA's Park Police had the home taped off in
caution tape. Crime scene investigators going in and out with bags,
paper bags, plastic bag, gloves, coming out of the house
with carpet and different items from inside the residence.
Speaker 5 (11:18):
But what we know for sure is that there was some.
Speaker 10 (11:20):
Form of bloodstains found in the master bedroom and that bathroom.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Joining me is non essential. Bones from Fox five also
with me. Brian Fitzgibbons, Director operations USPA Nationwide Security.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Brian, thank you so much for being with us.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Have you analyzed the evidence that you were learning about
taken from the home and discovered in the home?
Speaker 11 (11:45):
Thank you for having me, me Nancy. In addition to that,
blood investigators found a tremendous amount of digital evidence and
that's going to be crucial in this case as they
pieced together Noursh's active in the last days that they
were sure that Mamto was at that residence.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
You know that's very cryptic, Brian Fitzgibbons, And we have
one hour to cover the evidence. Brian Fitzgibbons. When you
say there was a lot of digital evidence, let's.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Just break it down.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Are you referring to searches made on Google on Nushbot's computer,
on his devices, such as how long to Mary after
spouse dies?
Speaker 2 (12:29):
That search? That digital search?
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Are you more concerned with what happened debt after spouse dies?
What happened debt after spouse dies?
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Oh? How long to Mary after spouse dies? Those are the.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Google searches among many others that we have just learned about.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Is that troubling to you? Is that the digital evidence?
Are you referring to the Ping p I n G evidence.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
This is going to be everything, Nancy.
Speaker 11 (13:03):
So you have the ping in Louden County, ten to
fifteen miles to the north as a potential disposal site,
and you're dealing with these Google searches which resonate and
sound quite a bit like the Brian Walsh case and
Cohazart Massachusetts.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Guys, we are talking about the evidence found inside the home.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Brian Fitzgibbons has led us.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
To another prong of the evidence, and that is a
digital evidence. You know what I like about digital evidence
and blood evidence. It cannot be refuted. You might want
to put a spin on it, but it cannot be refuted.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Brian Fitzgibbons.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
That's correct, Nancy.
Speaker 11 (13:41):
There's going to be a we call it digital exhaust
from Nouresha's activities immediately following whatever happened with Mamta that
led to our disappearance. And it seems like investigators have
a mountain of this right now.
Speaker 12 (13:55):
Discovering a pink stain on the carpet in the master bedroom,
investigators noticed what appears to be a blood trail leading
from the bedroom to the master bedroom's bathroom, using Blue
Star technology in the bathroom. Detectives are shocked as the
entire bathroom floor is illuminated with what appears to be.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Blood crime stories With Nancy Gray.
Speaker 13 (14:25):
The last time I spoke to her was July twenty eighth.
Got a call from a friend I met at Mamta's
baby shower.
Speaker 10 (14:34):
According to her co workers, she did not show up
for her shift on the first I.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Thought that was impossible. She would never have missed a ship.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
I mean, nobody knew that she was missing.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Her neighbors were not even aware.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
Her next door neighbors had no idea. I wasn't going
to let that happen.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Where is missing Mom? Mom?
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Is she alive? Is there any chance she still alive?
Listen to what we've learned.
Speaker 14 (15:02):
Investigators looking for Mom to Abot arrive at her home
with search warrants and walking in the front door, are
shocked to see the home in disarray. It appears that
luggage has been packed and in plain view for all
to see passports for Mamta's husband, Naresh and their daughter Nima.
Officers inside the home use blue Star technology, a forensicate,
allowing criminal investigation technicians with a complete tool to reveal
(15:24):
the presence of invisible blood traces at a crime scene,
uncovering pools of blood and blood spatter in the home.
In the master bedroom, the bed is moved to obstruct
access to the closet. After moving the bed, detectives observe
a light pink stain on the carpet they suspect to
be blood.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Straight out to Brian Fitzgibbons, joining US Director Operations usp
A Nationwide Security Brian Antel, all of our guests, thank
you for being with us, and to Nadia Navarro who
is a very dear friend of Mamta's.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
I know this evidence must.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Be overwhelming to you to hear about bloodstains and potential
pools of blood and peeing evidence and it just.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Goes on and on. Is there a chance mom to
is alive?
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Brian, if you could explain blue Star technology.
Speaker 11 (16:16):
Blue Star technology, Nancy, is very similar to luminol, and
this is one of the most effective new blood reagents
in the markets used by crime scene and texts. That's
going to have very high sensitivity to detect traces of
blood that would be not seen by the naked eye.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
You know, I'm very curious. One thing that is disturbing.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Amongst the many is the potential cleanup, because in a bathroom,
it could be argued you would expect to find whoever
lived there, You may expect to find some of their blood,
but when it's been cleaned up, or when there is
a great deal of blood. For instance, in the case
(17:03):
of Jennifer Dulo's missing mom of five out of Connecticut,
there was a vast quantity of blood in her garage
of blood elsewhere in her home. She and her husband
were separated at that time. Based on the amount of
blood that was found in her garage, it was easily
deduced that wherever.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
She was, she was no longer alive.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
To say to bone See joining us from Fox five,
a lot of items were taken from the home.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
We know in particular, police are.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Looking at the bathtub and the bedroom carpet.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
What can you tell us about items removed from the
home right now.
Speaker 10 (17:43):
We've asked about these items that were pulls out of
their home, and police, like they've been doing for the
past couple of weeks, aren't sharing too much information with us.
But what we gathered is that this is all evidence
that will be used in this investigation.
Speaker 5 (17:58):
But while we were at the house.
Speaker 10 (18:00):
We also saw that police spend a lot of time
in the garage. They actually took some cardboard papers to
cover the windows so that the news crews outside couldn't
see what was.
Speaker 5 (18:12):
Going on in this garage.
Speaker 10 (18:14):
So, in addition to this bathtub and the carpets that
they removed from the house, we know that they were
focusing in this garage area.
Speaker 5 (18:22):
What exactly was going on, we don't know. But it's
also important to note that court.
Speaker 10 (18:27):
Documents showed as well as neighbors informed us that Naresh
sold his tesla not too long before police showed up
to the house with that search warrant.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Not essen to you, Bonci, You're absolutely correct. Listen.
Speaker 12 (18:41):
On August nineteenth, Narisch Bot sells his tesla and friends
say he inquires about selling his house as well. When
investigators arrived to serve the search warrant, detectives find what
can only be described as a chaotic scene. The home
appears packed with a suitcase and passports for both Bot
and his daughter. Visible police speak to two individuals who
(19:02):
claim to reach Bot discusses selling his home. The same
day he sold his tesla.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
To Angela Arnold, joining us renowned psychiatrist out of the
Atlanta jurisdiction. You can find her an Angela Arnold MD
dot com. Her specialty is dealing with women, doctor Angie.
Thank you for being with us, Doctor Angie. All of
that seems ominous, very ominous in light of the fact
that no one can find Mamta, that the passports were there,
(19:31):
the suitcases were packed.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
What would you say, doctor Angela Arnold?
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Is the single most dangerous time for a woman that
has been abused.
Speaker 15 (19:41):
Unfortunately, Nancy, the single most dangerous time for a woman
is the top from the time they get pregnant until
one year postpartum. That is, homicide and suicide account for
more deaths of a woman that is pregnant to one
(20:01):
year postpartum than any medical complication that the woman could
have during that time. And I want women to know
that homicide and suicide are the number one way that
a woman in that time does.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Joining me is Nadia Navarro, friend of Mamta's and who
has engineered the GoFundMe.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
She organized that. Nadia. Did do you ever speak with
the husband? Naresh?
Speaker 5 (20:28):
Yes, I did.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Could you describe what happened?
Speaker 3 (20:32):
Well, it was at the baby's birthday party, and there
were a lot of people there. Nobody wanted me to
be alone with him. He said that he needed to
speak to me privately, and he asked to speak to
me alone, and I said later, but I didn't stick around.
I left early and he said he would call me.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
So, Nadia Navarro, when you were at the baby's birthday party?
Speaker 2 (20:58):
It was the first birthday parties? Correct?
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Yes, which is doctor Angie curious because it dovetails with
what you just told us. Mom's baby girl had just
turned one. Why is it that no one wanted you
to be alone with not ash Bought.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Because everyone was suspicious of him.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
What about an incident where you took Mamta to the
you were trying to take her to the spy store.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
He called me multiple times that day and he demanded
that I turned back and I basically said no, and
he was shocked and angry, and he screamed at me.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
What exactly did he say it was in?
Speaker 3 (21:41):
He started screaming and Nepoli.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Did you know what he was saying? No?
Speaker 3 (21:45):
I had no idea.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
What was Mamta's reaction with him screaming into the phone.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
She got really quiet and she apologized.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
I find that very curious.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Okay, the part that the part of what he said
that was not a NPOLLI What was he saying in
English that you could understand?
Speaker 3 (22:04):
He was like what, I guess no one had really
or maybe a woman hadn't said no to him before.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
What was he saying?
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Well, he was demanding that I turn around, and I'm
my own person in my own car. I'm a grown woman,
and I said no, We're just going to the spice store.
I don't want to turn around.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Doctor Angel Arnold joining me, renowned psychiatrist, you just told
me that the most dangerous time for a woman in
an abusive home is I think you said, leading up
to pregnancy and up to one year after giving birth.
I find that extraordinarily curious and possibly probative.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
That the baby was just turning one when mom ticket disappears.
Speaker 15 (22:56):
It's horrible, you know, Nancy. What I'm wondering is what
was happening in that home leading up to this. I
am so curious about that. There are so many things
that seem to be left unsaid right now. How did
he treat her during the pregnancy, how did he treat
her soon after the birth, and what in the world
let up to this, right before the baby turned one
(23:18):
year old.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Those are the questions that I'm wondering about right now.
Speaker 5 (23:22):
That's a question we've all been asking. Why did it
take so long?
Speaker 1 (23:26):
She's now been away from her baby girl for quite
some time.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
So this is a very concerning case.
Speaker 11 (23:34):
Every day that goes by there's a baby that doesn't
know where a mother is. The chances of her coming
home alive go down with every hour that passes.
Speaker 6 (23:42):
And I have.
Speaker 10 (23:43):
Really bad feelings for this mother because I don't believe
she's alive at this moment.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
We are learning evidence fast and furious. For one thing,
we're learning about those I say probatives, which.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Means prove something. Other people may just call it curious.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Google searches performed by the husband na Esh Bot for instance,
how long to Mary after spouse dies? Also what happened
Debt d e b brother T What happened Debt after
spouse dies.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
We are also learning.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
That mom's mother has just been granted an emergency visa
and families trying to get her from Nepal. Here on
the scene. I'm also curious right now about what was
seen inside the home to not as sent to bones
who joining us from Fox five. I'm gonna circle back
to you, Brian Fitzgibbons regarding digital data, phone.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Data, but not what more do we know about.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Searches of the computers, searches of phones, and searches the home.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
I understand what police arrived at the home.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
It's the very chaotic same bags were packed, passports were out.
Speaker 5 (25:06):
What do you know, yes, exactly, Nancy.
Speaker 10 (25:09):
There was a lot going on in the house and
it looked like someone who was ready to leave, to
leave his home and to possibly leave the country, because
we understand that there were passports.
Speaker 5 (25:19):
For him and his one year old daughter, Nima.
Speaker 10 (25:21):
But we're also learning recently that in court documents that
there were a number of searches in his phone as well.
Speaker 5 (25:32):
That's that digital evidence.
Speaker 10 (25:34):
And you know, one of the biggest concerns is that
Google search about what happens to what appears to be debt,
financial debt if your spouse dies.
Speaker 5 (25:44):
So all of.
Speaker 10 (25:45):
These things are now coming out, and I only believe
we're going to continue to hear more from prosecutors.
Speaker 5 (25:51):
And again that presence that was outside the house, we
know there has to be more.
Speaker 10 (25:56):
It can't just be a couple of rugs that we
saw in the bathtub that was collected. I'm interested to
see what exactly police and the prosecutors.
Speaker 5 (26:05):
Will continue to share with us when it comes to evidence.
Speaker 10 (26:08):
But we also heard going back to the digital really quickly,
that there was a trip to a nearby store or
grocery store for cleaning supplies and knives and those kinds
of things. So this is just part of the evidence
that we're going to continue to learn more about as
this case continues to go on. But the most recent
things that we're hearing about are those Google searches, what
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happens to financial debt if your spouts dies.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
I'm very curious about the bathtub being taken out that
most recently occurred in famous cases and the rex Hueman
Long Island serial killer cases. Bathtub, the entire bathroom was
totally dismantled. Sometimes difficult to get evidence out of a
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bathtub drain or a sink drain, but it can be
done if it's done in time. We're going to learn
a lot about that blood evidence, and we know that
the blue Star kit was used, illuminol search was done.
We understand that a bed in the master bedroom was
moved and when the bed was moved, it revealed blood
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evidence that leads me to say, what you're redecorating, you
spring cleaning? You just feel like moving your bed suddenly.
Have you ever noticed how husbands certainly suddenly turned neat
nicks when their wives go missing, and they're mopping and
they're using detergent, they're doing the laundry, they're moving the
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bed around and coincidentally blood under the bed.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Curious.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
I also want to circle back to Nadia Navarro. We've
got a lot to cover. We're going in all different
directions to Nadia Navarro, friend of mam To's. You stated
that at a birthday party for baby Nima, who turned
one year old, baby girl.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
That no one wanted you to speak to the husband alone.
No mom wanted you to be alone with.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
The husband, not Ashpot because they were suspicious. Let me
understand the time frame here. Baby Nima turned one before
or after mom to disappears after Aha, No wonder the
suspicion next who through the birthday party?
Speaker 3 (28:29):
It was my idea. I wanted to see the baby,
and I've been avoiding contacting Nurash And he did ask me,
why haven't you called me? Why haven't you checked in
on me when we got to the birthday party.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
I'm very curious.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
So he did not consider having a one year birthday
party for the baby.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
No, people begged him on my behalf. They were like,
she really, she really wants to have one, and it's
also good for the baby because mama would have wanted
a party for her. And he finally relented because we said,
it's not about it's not about you, It's about the
baby and the people that want to celebrate with the baby.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Dadian Navarro, what was the husband notish bought behavior? His
demeanor at the birthday party?
Speaker 3 (29:15):
Oh my, it was the strangest I have ever seen him.
He was completely different, and his eyes had like a
frantic energy about them, just the way they would flip
back and forth, and he would constantly like look up
at me to see if I was looking at him,
which I was, I was staring, I was, I was
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watching how different he was. He kept randomly disappearing from
the party as well. When we were on the on
the deck, he would take the baby and go downstairs
anytime the baby started to cry, which was often, and
then he'd come back up and we didn't know why
he went down and nobody followed him down. But when
he did go down, every time the baby would stop crying.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Guys, I want to talk about very quickly, hard evidence,
hard evidence.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Listen.
Speaker 14 (30:04):
Nareshbot makes inconsistent statements to police when they arrive at
the home to conduct a welfare check on his wife,
Momta on August first, Narshe tells police his wife isn't
home because she's visiting family in Texas or New York,
and refuses to file a missing person report. On August sixth,
the Investigators saying Nareshbod contacts the police to report his
wife missing, stating she's been visiting family and was last
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seen in the early hours of July thirty first. He
later changes his story, saying he last saw her in
the early hours of August first. When asked about mom
toa Bod's cell phone, Naresh claims, MoMA destroyed her phone
before she went missing.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Destroyed her cell phone. That's a new one on me.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
So his statement to police Brian Fisgibbons is that Mamta
destroyed her cell phone before she went away.
Speaker 5 (30:51):
That's unbelievable.
Speaker 11 (30:52):
Nancy and the police are going to be able to
get a tremendous amount of data even off of Mamta's
phone if Naresh destroyed it. At this point, given the
physical evidence, they're going to be able to get Mourns
to expand that digital surgeon.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Well Crime Stores with Nancy Grace, we have learned more
about the hard evidence, and I'm referring to digital evidence.
Regardless of what husband and father Naresh Bat may say
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about his wife Manta destroying her cell phone before she goes.
Speaker 14 (31:35):
Missing it pinged listen, police knowe that Mamta's phone is
not destroyed, as the phone continues to receive data until
July twenty ninth, after which all calls went to voicemail.
By August first, the investigators say the phone has completely died.
The last known location of her phone was in Louden County, Virginia.
Naresh claims he was at a cafe in Louden County
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and provides proof which coincides with the area where MoMA's
phone pinged the cell tower after she vanished.
Speaker 16 (32:05):
Nareshbot is seen on surveillance footage inside the Chantilly, Virginia
walmart as he buys a three pack of knives. On
July thirty, Investigators look for the knives. As they serve
the search warrant on the bought residents, they find one
of the knives. Two knives are still missing. One day
after buying the knives, Nareshbot goes to the Walmart in
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Louden and buys cleaning supplies.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Straight out to sant To Bonsou joining us from Fox five,
I assume that the surveillance video within that store at
the Walmart and the one in Chantilli where he's buying
cleaning supplies and knives respectively, has been curated, has been
obtained by police.
Speaker 10 (32:50):
Yes, that's what we're gathering that they use this surveillance
footage to recognize that these are the things he purchased
on or around the thirtieth, too far away from the
day that they say he possibly murdered his wife. So
we're learning that, you know, as reporters, you were asking
a lot of questions, what is going on? Why aren't
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you guys searching? But it seems like you know, they
were onto something. They were just waiting to get their
hands on some of that surveillance video that we just discussed.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
I hope that they have preserved the trash outside of
his home. Also, we're learning about the surveillance footage inside
the Chantille Walmart, and then he goes to another Walmart
in Louden to make further purchases. Interesting why did he
go to one not as close to his home, but
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also during all this time at backtrack, he just buys
a set of three knives, and all of a sudden,
literally within hours, two of the knives are missing. And
that said, he is acting like everything's normal. Listen, this
is from our friends at WUSA nine.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
We don't have any type of that.
Speaker 8 (34:06):
You know.
Speaker 4 (34:07):
It was like a normal day, like other regular days,
just you know, like you know, we were taking care
of our babies.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
It was like a very normal, a normal day.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
According to him, his wife is missing and she destroyed
her cell phone before she took off.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
That's not normal. Take us too more. And what she
has demeanor? This is from our friends at WUSA nine.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
Oh, you know, like she wasn't a fear at her
work and then she is very like you no, pocused
on her work. And then once we know like no
she's not at work, then you know, like that makes
very decitious to me.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
And so serious you had not reported her missing. Okay,
there's more.
Speaker 14 (34:46):
Listen in the master bathroom, Investigators carefully remove the bathtub
and visible to the naked eye, detectives confirm what they
believe to be blood not just around the tub area,
but blood appears to be stuck in the calking. Investigators
believe in the rush by kills his wife and drags
her body, creating a blood trail, and conceals the body
in a place that is yet to be located. Even
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though they haven't found a body, Investigators believe the amount
of blood detected in the master bedroom and bathroom is
inconsistent with life. Naresh Bot is charged with murdering his
wife and concealing her body.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
With us as Adrian Pakarell, who knows the husband not Ishbach,
Adrian fourteen years in the US Army, a former congressional candidate. Adrian,
thank you for being with us. What went through your
mind when you learn not is ish Bat has been
suspected in murder and has actually been charged as it
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relates to getting rid of a body or destroying evans, It.
Speaker 6 (35:44):
Was stocking and shaking at the same time.
Speaker 8 (35:47):
Because we are a small team, we decided to make
sure his behavior and nothing happens to Nima.
Speaker 6 (35:55):
We put the uniform to serve our protect our nation,
protect the people, and the thing I was very, very
very disturbing to me. It was very disturbed, and I
was upset.
Speaker 7 (36:14):
I was an angler and every single way frustrated and
many many things.
Speaker 6 (36:20):
I can't really describe that.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
In the last hours, there has been a preliminary hearing
of sorts. It was very brief and lasted a little
under an hour. Joining me right now, Nana saying to
bone suit with Fox five, what have we learned after
the hearing?
Speaker 5 (36:40):
Yes, Nancy.
Speaker 10 (36:40):
So this morning it was a bond hearing for Naresh
bod It's important to note that.
Speaker 5 (36:46):
He is actually in costody for concealment.
Speaker 10 (36:50):
Of a body, but police still do not have Mamta's body,
so his charge is for concealing a dead body. For
his bond hearing, obviously, it's when the judge will decide
will we let him out on bond or we're going
to keep him in. The decision was we are going
to keep him inside with no bond. Now, I do
have a colleague who was in that courtroom and she
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did say, for a second, people got nervous because the
defense said, well, the prosecution or the state doesn't have
a body, So why is he in jail or why
is he in custody for concealment of a dead body?
But obviously the judge still said not strong enough, so
we're going to keep him in custody. So Narashvet still
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inside a detention center with no bond. And again that
charge is for concealment of a dead body. Still searching
for where Manta is her remains or whatever the case
may be.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
To Nadia Navarro, a very dear friend of missing mom Mamta, Nadia,
I want to hear your reaction when you learned not
each bat had been arrested, not for murder, but for
transport and concealing or altering a dead body.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
I screamed, I have him to be in public. So
I had to go into the police station and I
went to the bathroom and I sat down and screamed.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
What are your thoughts at this juncture?
Speaker 3 (38:24):
I no longer think she's with us, and I'm horrified
and in pain, and.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
I'm so angry to you.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
Brian Fitzgibbons joining US Director Operations, USPA Nationwide Security.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
What will it take for a murder charge?
Speaker 11 (38:45):
Nancy? There's amount of evidence that investigators have already collected.
Now at this juncture, you got to be thinking that
somebody could come forward, somebody close to Nuresh could come
forward with information. There's going to be more digital evidence
being uncovered here as warrants are produced in this case.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
There have been many other cases where husband's typically sometimes wives,
begged for the return of their spouse. Does the name
Chris Watts ring a bell or maybe Shannan listen.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
Bella Celeste, if you're out there, just.
Speaker 10 (39:24):
Just come back, like if somebody has her, please bring
her back.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
I need to see everybody. I need to see everybody again.
Speaker 5 (39:31):
This house is not complete without anybody here.
Speaker 10 (39:35):
Back.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
That's where my friends said k mgh Denver seven. Chris
Watts later convicted in the murder of not only his wife,
but his two little girls.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
In this case, baby Nima is safe. Baby Nima is safe.
Praise the Lord for that.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
We have been told by a reliable source that baby
Niema is with friends of mom Mamta. But but as
we go to air tonight, where is Mamta?
Speaker 2 (40:17):
We wait as justice unfolds. Nancy Grace signing off, goodbye
friend
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace the missing mom Manta just
twenty eight.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
In the last hours, we learn.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
About a pink stain according to police, on the carpet
in the home. We also learn invisible to the naked eye,
but discovered with luminol blood specs on the bathroom calking.
That bathtub now seized by police. I'm Nancy Grace, this
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is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Mamta is an incredibly dedicated person. Being a nurse was
her absolute dream and she was completely committed to it.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
You don't become a nicku nurse without being a very,
very dedicated person. The gender reveal had already happened. They
knew they were having a baby girl.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Nothing was going to stop her.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Where is Mamta?
Speaker 1 (01:07):
In the last hour's disturbing evidence is being uncovered.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
We learn not only has luminol.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Detective blood in the bathroom, the bathtub has been seized,
also issues regarding blood traces in the master bedroom. Again,
thank you for being with us in our search for Mamta.
If you know or think you have evidence on her
whereabouts tip line seven zero three three six one one
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one three six repeat seven zero three three six one one, one, three, six,
recall her entire family lives in Nepaul.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
She's got nobody. The search for her was launched by
her friends at a baby shower.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
They banded together to bring her case to the national
forefront and they have what does her husband have to say?
Let's start friends at WUSA.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
Yeah, it's been very terrible time. You know, like we
are just you know, like my baby and then myself,
we are just waiting minute and second, every minute and second,
just waiting like to get the you know, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
How to explain and more from our friends at WUSA.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Listen to Mamta's husband.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
Be like, you know, very good, like you know since
like two months, you know, like before that, you know,
one time we have like some arguments because you know, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Now I'm very curious about one other, well many other
statements made by her husband a reshpot.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
But I want you to hear this from WUSA nine.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
I'm the sufferer one. I'm the suffering my baby and
then myself, you know, like we are suffering the most.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
She's the one missing.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
I'm hearing about invisible to the naked eye, blood in
the bathtob blood and the caulking around the edges of
the bathtob blood traces in the bedroom, and he's suffering.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Can I hear that one more time?
Speaker 1 (03:17):
This is Manta's husband speaking to WUSA nine.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Listen, I'm the sofferer one.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
I'm the soffering my baby and then myself. You know,
like we are suffering the most.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
No, you're not. You are not suffering the most.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
That's just the kind of statement I don't want to hear.
Joining me in All Star panel to makes sense of
what we know right now. But I've got to go
before I go to our investigative reporter, I've got to
go straight out to one of Mamta's dear friends, who
actually brought this case to the forefront, who has been
looking for mom to, who has been at her own
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expense being out there making digital flyers, putting them out
speaking for my has created a go fund me to
help the organization of the search. With me is Nadia Navarro?
Did you hear the husband say, and I quote, I'm
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the suffering one. I'm suffering, we're suffering the most.
Speaker 5 (04:18):
What I think?
Speaker 3 (04:18):
He's a ridiculous man, truly, I think.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
A lot more than that. Can you expound.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
He just has no empathy and he's Tonda.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Okay, you know what, I think that you are kind
and gracious. I'm not let me go straight out to
Adrian pacarel who is an acquaintance of the husband.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Mister Pacarell served fourteen.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Years in the US Army, has been a congressional candidate,
and was an acquaintance with the husband. Not Esh, but
mister Parker, well, thank you for being with us. First
of all, you believe that you have been misconstrued in
the press, and I want to get to that in
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just one moment, But first I want to deal with.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
The facts before us. His wife is missing, the mother
of his child.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Did you have any idea this guy would come out
with a statement I'm the one suffering.
Speaker 6 (05:29):
First of all, thank you for having me this statement.
Speaker 7 (05:34):
The guy pretty much if you asked me, I will
call him as a psychopath completely. A lot of lies there,
a lot of lies.
Speaker 6 (05:45):
He is lying again and again. Even the conversation he.
Speaker 7 (05:49):
Was having with some of the veterans who decided to
step in to ensure the babies protect him.
Speaker 8 (05:57):
We did not know the extreme he has gone, but
we definitely had a doubt that he has something.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
To do with it, because well, hold on, let me
be very clear at mister Pocarel before you go any further.
When you have a friend or an acquaintance and you
know them in routine life, you may have no idea
that they have a dark side.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
In fact, having prosecuted many many.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Violent felonies, more than I can even count, and worked
at the batter Women's Center, one thing about batterers and abusers.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
They can be very charming. And I've got Scott Peterson
on my mind.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
I don't know if you ever heard of him, but
he was convicted the murder of his wife and unborn son.
Yet everybody that knows him, other than Lacey's family, think
he was very charming outgoing the life of the party
you would never suspect. So I'm very curious about this dichotomy.
(07:00):
How someone can be so charming and likable to his friends,
but then at home he is.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
A violent abuser.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
And again, this guy mom to his husband Naresh Bot,
has not been convicted of anything, and under our jurisprudence,
he remains innocent until proven guilty if in fact he
ever goes to Traumba. Back to what I'm asking to Adrian, Pacarel.
(07:30):
You stated that you believe he lied to a group
of veterans he was speaking to what was he saying?
Speaker 8 (07:37):
The first question we all as there is do you
have anything to do with.
Speaker 6 (07:45):
Bus?
Speaker 8 (07:45):
The other veteran asks the same thing, But I was
just watching and trying to listen to his answer because.
Speaker 6 (07:51):
I told him, no, matter whatever it is, be honest, army.
We have you know, equals one of them. He is honest,
and I say, make sure you be honest whatever it is.
But he never answer that question, like if somebody.
Speaker 8 (08:08):
Asked me about my spouse and has anything to do
with it, it must likely might presently be.
Speaker 9 (08:14):
Are you out of your mind? What are you trying
to say? You know those kinds of things. But he
always say we haven't had any argument or since apric
four or five months.
Speaker 6 (08:27):
He'd never say yes or no. And that was right
there the indication that I picked, okay, he has something
to do.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
And joining me is a very dear friend of mom
tes Nadia Navarro, and a friend and acquaintance with the
husband and a restpot.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
So when you guys asked him, just be honest, did
you have anything to do with it? He wouldn't say yes.
Or no.
Speaker 6 (08:53):
I exactly never directly.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Asked him old on, I'm throwing this to Adrian, sorry,
Nadia agent. So the question is did he ever did
He never say yes or no.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
That's correct.
Speaker 8 (09:05):
He would never say yes or no. He would always
say we haven't had fight or even simple argument for four.
Speaker 6 (09:12):
Or five months.
Speaker 8 (09:14):
And that is really the first thing I picked on
the first time I met him in his house.
Speaker 6 (09:20):
First time I went to his house with other veterans,
because before this event, I have probably met him about
two to three times during the US.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
So he went into the home. When was that?
Speaker 8 (09:32):
So I was notified on the stext by the empolice reporter.
Speaker 6 (09:39):
Like I said, I knew him as a Nepali veteran,
Nepali American veteran. There's a group.
Speaker 8 (09:45):
When I talked on the phone, I asked him because
I'm an it is the survivor, and I'm a.
Speaker 6 (09:50):
Mental health advocat too, So I asked.
Speaker 8 (09:52):
Him if there's any bad talks in his head? He says,
a human you know here and there.
Speaker 7 (09:59):
So I immediately wanted to sit down and talk to him and.
Speaker 6 (10:04):
To see his behavior and be able to the time.
Speaker 8 (10:08):
So from there my biggest focus.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
So much ground to cover.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Let's switch off what we know of the husband's questionable
or curious behavior and talk about the evidence that we
believe was found in the home. Joining me is not
a saint to bone, soou investigative reporter of Fox five, Nana,
thank you.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
For being with us.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
What's your understanding of what has been found inside mom
to his home?
Speaker 5 (10:36):
Hey, Nancy, thanks for having me.
Speaker 10 (10:38):
So A lot of different things came out in the
court documents, but what we know for sure is that
there were some blood stains found somewhere near the master
bedroom and bathroom area. We also know that their bathtub
has been taking away for evidence. We were actually outside,
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I believe it was Wensday when Prince William County Police
and NASA's Park Police had the home taped off in
caution tape. Crime scene investigators going in and out with bags,
paper bags, plastic bag, gloves, coming out of the house
with carpet and different items from inside the residence.
Speaker 5 (11:18):
But what we know for sure is that there was some.
Speaker 10 (11:20):
Form of bloodstains found in the master bedroom and that bathroom.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Joining me is non essential. Bones from Fox five also
with me. Brian Fitzgibbons, Director operations USPA Nationwide Security.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Brian, thank you so much for being with us.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Have you analyzed the evidence that you were learning about
taken from the home and discovered in the home?
Speaker 11 (11:45):
Thank you for having me, me Nancy. In addition to that,
blood investigators found a tremendous amount of digital evidence and
that's going to be crucial in this case as they
pieced together Noursh's active in the last days that they
were sure that Mamto was at that residence.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
You know that's very cryptic, Brian Fitzgibbons, And we have
one hour to cover the evidence. Brian Fitzgibbons. When you
say there was a lot of digital evidence, let's.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Just break it down.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Are you referring to searches made on Google on Nushbot's computer,
on his devices, such as how long to Mary after
spouse dies?
Speaker 2 (12:29):
That search? That digital search?
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Are you more concerned with what happened debt after spouse dies?
What happened debt after spouse dies?
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Oh? How long to Mary after spouse dies? Those are the.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Google searches among many others that we have just learned about.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Is that troubling to you? Is that the digital evidence?
Are you referring to the Ping p I n G evidence.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
This is going to be everything, Nancy.
Speaker 11 (13:03):
So you have the ping in Louden County, ten to
fifteen miles to the north as a potential disposal site,
and you're dealing with these Google searches which resonate and
sound quite a bit like the Brian Walsh case and
Cohazart Massachusetts.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Guys, we are talking about the evidence found inside the home.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Brian Fitzgibbons has led us.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
To another prong of the evidence, and that is a
digital evidence. You know what I like about digital evidence
and blood evidence. It cannot be refuted. You might want
to put a spin on it, but it cannot be refuted.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Brian Fitzgibbons.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
That's correct, Nancy.
Speaker 11 (13:41):
There's going to be a we call it digital exhaust
from Nouresha's activities immediately following whatever happened with Mamta that
led to our disappearance. And it seems like investigators have
a mountain of this right now.
Speaker 12 (13:55):
Discovering a pink stain on the carpet in the master bedroom,
investigators noticed what appears to be a blood trail leading
from the bedroom to the master bedroom's bathroom, using Blue
Star technology in the bathroom. Detectives are shocked as the
entire bathroom floor is illuminated with what appears to be.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Blood crime stories With Nancy Gray.
Speaker 13 (14:25):
The last time I spoke to her was July twenty eighth.
Got a call from a friend I met at Mamta's
baby shower.
Speaker 10 (14:34):
According to her co workers, she did not show up
for her shift on the first I.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Thought that was impossible. She would never have missed a ship.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
I mean, nobody knew that she was missing.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Her neighbors were not even aware.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
Her next door neighbors had no idea. I wasn't going
to let that happen.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Where is missing Mom? Mom?
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Is she alive? Is there any chance she still alive?
Listen to what we've learned.
Speaker 14 (15:02):
Investigators looking for Mom to Abot arrive at her home
with search warrants and walking in the front door, are
shocked to see the home in disarray. It appears that
luggage has been packed and in plain view for all
to see passports for Mamta's husband, Naresh and their daughter Nima.
Officers inside the home use blue Star technology, a forensicate,
allowing criminal investigation technicians with a complete tool to reveal
(15:24):
the presence of invisible blood traces at a crime scene,
uncovering pools of blood and blood spatter in the home.
In the master bedroom, the bed is moved to obstruct
access to the closet. After moving the bed, detectives observe
a light pink stain on the carpet they suspect to
be blood.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Straight out to Brian Fitzgibbons, joining US Director Operations usp
A Nationwide Security Brian Antel, all of our guests, thank
you for being with us, and to Nadia Navarro who
is a very dear friend of Mamta's.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
I know this evidence must.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Be overwhelming to you to hear about bloodstains and potential
pools of blood and peeing evidence and it just.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Goes on and on. Is there a chance mom to
is alive?
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Brian, if you could explain blue Star technology.
Speaker 11 (16:16):
Blue Star technology, Nancy, is very similar to luminol, and
this is one of the most effective new blood reagents
in the markets used by crime scene and texts. That's
going to have very high sensitivity to detect traces of
blood that would be not seen by the naked eye.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
You know, I'm very curious. One thing that is disturbing.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Amongst the many is the potential cleanup, because in a bathroom,
it could be argued you would expect to find whoever
lived there, You may expect to find some of their blood,
but when it's been cleaned up, or when there is
a great deal of blood. For instance, in the case
(17:03):
of Jennifer Dulo's missing mom of five out of Connecticut,
there was a vast quantity of blood in her garage
of blood elsewhere in her home. She and her husband
were separated at that time. Based on the amount of
blood that was found in her garage, it was easily
deduced that wherever.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
She was, she was no longer alive.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
To say to bone See joining us from Fox five,
a lot of items were taken from the home.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
We know in particular, police are.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Looking at the bathtub and the bedroom carpet.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
What can you tell us about items removed from the
home right now.
Speaker 10 (17:43):
We've asked about these items that were pulls out of
their home, and police, like they've been doing for the
past couple of weeks, aren't sharing too much information with us.
But what we gathered is that this is all evidence
that will be used in this investigation.
Speaker 5 (17:58):
But while we were at the house.
Speaker 10 (18:00):
We also saw that police spend a lot of time
in the garage. They actually took some cardboard papers to
cover the windows so that the news crews outside couldn't
see what was.
Speaker 5 (18:12):
Going on in this garage.
Speaker 10 (18:14):
So, in addition to this bathtub and the carpets that
they removed from the house, we know that they were
focusing in this garage area.
Speaker 5 (18:22):
What exactly was going on, we don't know. But it's
also important to note that court.
Speaker 10 (18:27):
Documents showed as well as neighbors informed us that Naresh
sold his tesla not too long before police showed up
to the house with that search warrant.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Not essen to you, Bonci, You're absolutely correct. Listen.
Speaker 12 (18:41):
On August nineteenth, Narisch Bot sells his tesla and friends
say he inquires about selling his house as well. When
investigators arrived to serve the search warrant, detectives find what
can only be described as a chaotic scene. The home
appears packed with a suitcase and passports for both Bot
and his daughter. Visible police speak to two individuals who
(19:02):
claim to reach Bot discusses selling his home. The same
day he sold his tesla.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
To Angela Arnold, joining us renowned psychiatrist out of the
Atlanta jurisdiction. You can find her an Angela Arnold MD
dot com. Her specialty is dealing with women, doctor Angie.
Thank you for being with us, Doctor Angie. All of
that seems ominous, very ominous in light of the fact
that no one can find Mamta, that the passports were there,
(19:31):
the suitcases were packed.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
What would you say, doctor Angela Arnold?
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Is the single most dangerous time for a woman that
has been abused.
Speaker 15 (19:41):
Unfortunately, Nancy, the single most dangerous time for a woman
is the top from the time they get pregnant until
one year postpartum. That is, homicide and suicide account for
more deaths of a woman that is pregnant to one
(20:01):
year postpartum than any medical complication that the woman could
have during that time. And I want women to know
that homicide and suicide are the number one way that
a woman in that time does.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Joining me is Nadia Navarro, friend of Mamta's and who
has engineered the GoFundMe.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
She organized that. Nadia. Did do you ever speak with
the husband? Naresh?
Speaker 5 (20:28):
Yes, I did.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Could you describe what happened?
Speaker 3 (20:32):
Well, it was at the baby's birthday party, and there
were a lot of people there. Nobody wanted me to
be alone with him. He said that he needed to
speak to me privately, and he asked to speak to
me alone, and I said later, but I didn't stick around.
I left early and he said he would call me.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
So, Nadia Navarro, when you were at the baby's birthday party?
Speaker 2 (20:58):
It was the first birthday parties? Correct?
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Yes, which is doctor Angie curious because it dovetails with
what you just told us. Mom's baby girl had just
turned one. Why is it that no one wanted you
to be alone with not ash Bought.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Because everyone was suspicious of him.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
What about an incident where you took Mamta to the
you were trying to take her to the spy store.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
He called me multiple times that day and he demanded
that I turned back and I basically said no, and
he was shocked and angry, and he screamed at me.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
What exactly did he say it was in?
Speaker 3 (21:41):
He started screaming and Nepoli.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Did you know what he was saying? No?
Speaker 3 (21:45):
I had no idea.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
What was Mamta's reaction with him screaming into the phone.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
She got really quiet and she apologized.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
I find that very curious.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Okay, the part that the part of what he said
that was not a NPOLLI What was he saying in
English that you could understand?
Speaker 3 (22:04):
He was like what, I guess no one had really
or maybe a woman hadn't said no to him before.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
What was he saying?
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Well, he was demanding that I turn around, and I'm
my own person in my own car. I'm a grown woman,
and I said no, We're just going to the spice store.
I don't want to turn around.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Doctor Angel Arnold joining me, renowned psychiatrist, you just told
me that the most dangerous time for a woman in
an abusive home is I think you said, leading up
to pregnancy and up to one year after giving birth.
I find that extraordinarily curious and possibly probative.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
That the baby was just turning one when mom ticket disappears.
Speaker 15 (22:56):
It's horrible, you know, Nancy. What I'm wondering is what
was happening in that home leading up to this. I
am so curious about that. There are so many things
that seem to be left unsaid right now. How did
he treat her during the pregnancy, how did he treat
her soon after the birth, and what in the world
let up to this, right before the baby turned one
(23:18):
year old.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Those are the questions that I'm wondering about right now.
Speaker 5 (23:22):
That's a question we've all been asking. Why did it
take so long?
Speaker 1 (23:26):
She's now been away from her baby girl for quite
some time.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
So this is a very concerning case.
Speaker 11 (23:34):
Every day that goes by there's a baby that doesn't
know where a mother is. The chances of her coming
home alive go down with every hour that passes.
Speaker 6 (23:42):
And I have.
Speaker 10 (23:43):
Really bad feelings for this mother because I don't believe
she's alive at this moment.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
We are learning evidence fast and furious. For one thing,
we're learning about those I say probatives, which.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Means prove something. Other people may just call it curious.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Google searches performed by the husband na Esh Bot for instance,
how long to Mary after spouse dies? Also what happened
Debt d e b brother T What happened Debt after
spouse dies.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
We are also learning.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
That mom's mother has just been granted an emergency visa
and families trying to get her from Nepal. Here on
the scene. I'm also curious right now about what was
seen inside the home to not as sent to bones
who joining us from Fox five. I'm gonna circle back
to you, Brian Fitzgibbons regarding digital data, phone.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Data, but not what more do we know about.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Searches of the computers, searches of phones, and searches the home.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
I understand what police arrived at the home.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
It's the very chaotic same bags were packed, passports were out.
Speaker 5 (25:06):
What do you know, yes, exactly, Nancy.
Speaker 10 (25:09):
There was a lot going on in the house and
it looked like someone who was ready to leave, to
leave his home and to possibly leave the country, because
we understand that there were passports.
Speaker 5 (25:19):
For him and his one year old daughter, Nima.
Speaker 10 (25:21):
But we're also learning recently that in court documents that
there were a number of searches in his phone as well.
Speaker 5 (25:32):
That's that digital evidence.
Speaker 10 (25:34):
And you know, one of the biggest concerns is that
Google search about what happens to what appears to be debt,
financial debt if your spouse dies.
Speaker 5 (25:44):
So all of.
Speaker 10 (25:45):
These things are now coming out, and I only believe
we're going to continue to hear more from prosecutors.
Speaker 5 (25:51):
And again that presence that was outside the house, we
know there has to be more.
Speaker 10 (25:56):
It can't just be a couple of rugs that we
saw in the bathtub that was collected. I'm interested to
see what exactly police and the prosecutors.
Speaker 5 (26:05):
Will continue to share with us when it comes to evidence.
Speaker 10 (26:08):
But we also heard going back to the digital really quickly,
that there was a trip to a nearby store or
grocery store for cleaning supplies and knives and those kinds
of things. So this is just part of the evidence
that we're going to continue to learn more about as
this case continues to go on. But the most recent
things that we're hearing about are those Google searches, what
(26:30):
happens to financial debt if your spouts dies.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
I'm very curious about the bathtub being taken out that
most recently occurred in famous cases and the rex Hueman
Long Island serial killer cases. Bathtub, the entire bathroom was
totally dismantled. Sometimes difficult to get evidence out of a
(26:53):
bathtub drain or a sink drain, but it can be
done if it's done in time. We're going to learn
a lot about that blood evidence, and we know that
the blue Star kit was used, illuminol search was done.
We understand that a bed in the master bedroom was
moved and when the bed was moved, it revealed blood
(27:18):
evidence that leads me to say, what you're redecorating, you
spring cleaning? You just feel like moving your bed suddenly.
Have you ever noticed how husbands certainly suddenly turned neat
nicks when their wives go missing, and they're mopping and
they're using detergent, they're doing the laundry, they're moving the
(27:39):
bed around and coincidentally blood under the bed.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Curious.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
I also want to circle back to Nadia Navarro. We've
got a lot to cover. We're going in all different
directions to Nadia Navarro, friend of mam To's. You stated
that at a birthday party for baby Nima, who turned
one year old, baby girl.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
That no one wanted you to speak to the husband alone.
No mom wanted you to be alone with.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
The husband, not Ashpot because they were suspicious. Let me
understand the time frame here. Baby Nima turned one before
or after mom to disappears after Aha, No wonder the
suspicion next who through the birthday party?
Speaker 3 (28:29):
It was my idea. I wanted to see the baby,
and I've been avoiding contacting Nurash And he did ask me,
why haven't you called me? Why haven't you checked in
on me when we got to the birthday party.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
I'm very curious.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
So he did not consider having a one year birthday
party for the baby.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
No, people begged him on my behalf. They were like,
she really, she really wants to have one, and it's
also good for the baby because mama would have wanted
a party for her. And he finally relented because we said,
it's not about it's not about you, It's about the
baby and the people that want to celebrate with the baby.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Dadian Navarro, what was the husband notish bought behavior? His
demeanor at the birthday party?
Speaker 3 (29:15):
Oh my, it was the strangest I have ever seen him.
He was completely different, and his eyes had like a
frantic energy about them, just the way they would flip
back and forth, and he would constantly like look up
at me to see if I was looking at him,
which I was, I was staring, I was, I was
(29:37):
watching how different he was. He kept randomly disappearing from
the party as well. When we were on the on
the deck, he would take the baby and go downstairs
anytime the baby started to cry, which was often, and
then he'd come back up and we didn't know why
he went down and nobody followed him down. But when
he did go down, every time the baby would stop crying.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Guys, I want to talk about very quickly, hard evidence,
hard evidence.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Listen.
Speaker 14 (30:04):
Nareshbot makes inconsistent statements to police when they arrive at
the home to conduct a welfare check on his wife,
Momta on August first, Narshe tells police his wife isn't
home because she's visiting family in Texas or New York,
and refuses to file a missing person report. On August sixth,
the Investigators saying Nareshbod contacts the police to report his
wife missing, stating she's been visiting family and was last
(30:25):
seen in the early hours of July thirty first. He
later changes his story, saying he last saw her in
the early hours of August first. When asked about mom
toa Bod's cell phone, Naresh claims, MoMA destroyed her phone
before she went missing.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Destroyed her cell phone. That's a new one on me.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
So his statement to police Brian Fisgibbons is that Mamta
destroyed her cell phone before she went away.
Speaker 5 (30:51):
That's unbelievable.
Speaker 11 (30:52):
Nancy and the police are going to be able to
get a tremendous amount of data even off of Mamta's
phone if Naresh destroyed it. At this point, given the
physical evidence, they're going to be able to get Mourns
to expand that digital surgeon.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Well Crime Stores with Nancy Grace, we have learned more
about the hard evidence, and I'm referring to digital evidence.
Regardless of what husband and father Naresh Bat may say
(31:31):
about his wife Manta destroying her cell phone before she goes.
Speaker 14 (31:35):
Missing it pinged listen, police knowe that Mamta's phone is
not destroyed, as the phone continues to receive data until
July twenty ninth, after which all calls went to voicemail.
By August first, the investigators say the phone has completely died.
The last known location of her phone was in Louden County, Virginia.
Naresh claims he was at a cafe in Louden County
(31:57):
and provides proof which coincides with the area where MoMA's
phone pinged the cell tower after she vanished.
Speaker 16 (32:05):
Nareshbot is seen on surveillance footage inside the Chantilly, Virginia
walmart as he buys a three pack of knives. On
July thirty, Investigators look for the knives. As they serve
the search warrant on the bought residents, they find one
of the knives. Two knives are still missing. One day
after buying the knives, Nareshbot goes to the Walmart in
(32:27):
Louden and buys cleaning supplies.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Straight out to sant To Bonsou joining us from Fox five,
I assume that the surveillance video within that store at
the Walmart and the one in Chantilli where he's buying
cleaning supplies and knives respectively, has been curated, has been
obtained by police.
Speaker 10 (32:50):
Yes, that's what we're gathering that they use this surveillance
footage to recognize that these are the things he purchased
on or around the thirtieth, too far away from the
day that they say he possibly murdered his wife. So
we're learning that, you know, as reporters, you were asking
a lot of questions, what is going on? Why aren't
(33:11):
you guys searching? But it seems like you know, they
were onto something. They were just waiting to get their
hands on some of that surveillance video that we just discussed.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
I hope that they have preserved the trash outside of
his home. Also, we're learning about the surveillance footage inside
the Chantille Walmart, and then he goes to another Walmart
in Louden to make further purchases. Interesting why did he
go to one not as close to his home, but
(33:42):
also during all this time at backtrack, he just buys
a set of three knives, and all of a sudden,
literally within hours, two of the knives are missing. And
that said, he is acting like everything's normal. Listen, this
is from our friends at WUSA nine.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
We don't have any type of that.
Speaker 8 (34:06):
You know.
Speaker 4 (34:07):
It was like a normal day, like other regular days,
just you know, like you know, we were taking care
of our babies.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
It was like a very normal, a normal day.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
According to him, his wife is missing and she destroyed
her cell phone before she took off.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
That's not normal. Take us too more. And what she
has demeanor? This is from our friends at WUSA nine.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
Oh, you know, like she wasn't a fear at her
work and then she is very like you no, pocused
on her work. And then once we know like no
she's not at work, then you know, like that makes
very decitious to me.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
And so serious you had not reported her missing. Okay,
there's more.
Speaker 14 (34:46):
Listen in the master bathroom, Investigators carefully remove the bathtub
and visible to the naked eye, detectives confirm what they
believe to be blood not just around the tub area,
but blood appears to be stuck in the calking. Investigators
believe in the rush by kills his wife and drags
her body, creating a blood trail, and conceals the body
in a place that is yet to be located. Even
(35:06):
though they haven't found a body, Investigators believe the amount
of blood detected in the master bedroom and bathroom is
inconsistent with life. Naresh Bot is charged with murdering his
wife and concealing her body.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
With us as Adrian Pakarell, who knows the husband not Ishbach,
Adrian fourteen years in the US Army, a former congressional candidate. Adrian,
thank you for being with us. What went through your
mind when you learn not is ish Bat has been
suspected in murder and has actually been charged as it
(35:39):
relates to getting rid of a body or destroying evans, It.
Speaker 6 (35:44):
Was stocking and shaking at the same time.
Speaker 8 (35:47):
Because we are a small team, we decided to make
sure his behavior and nothing happens to Nima.
Speaker 6 (35:55):
We put the uniform to serve our protect our nation,
protect the people, and the thing I was very, very
very disturbing to me. It was very disturbed, and I
was upset.
Speaker 7 (36:14):
I was an angler and every single way frustrated and
many many things.
Speaker 6 (36:20):
I can't really describe that.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
In the last hours, there has been a preliminary hearing
of sorts. It was very brief and lasted a little
under an hour. Joining me right now, Nana saying to
bone suit with Fox five, what have we learned after
the hearing?
Speaker 5 (36:40):
Yes, Nancy.
Speaker 10 (36:40):
So this morning it was a bond hearing for Naresh
bod It's important to note that.
Speaker 5 (36:46):
He is actually in costody for concealment.
Speaker 10 (36:50):
Of a body, but police still do not have Mamta's body,
so his charge is for concealing a dead body. For
his bond hearing, obviously, it's when the judge will decide
will we let him out on bond or we're going
to keep him in. The decision was we are going
to keep him inside with no bond. Now, I do
have a colleague who was in that courtroom and she
(37:13):
did say, for a second, people got nervous because the
defense said, well, the prosecution or the state doesn't have
a body, So why is he in jail or why
is he in custody for concealment of a dead body?
But obviously the judge still said not strong enough, so
we're going to keep him in custody. So Narashvet still
(37:34):
inside a detention center with no bond. And again that
charge is for concealment of a dead body. Still searching
for where Manta is her remains or whatever the case
may be.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
To Nadia Navarro, a very dear friend of missing mom Mamta, Nadia,
I want to hear your reaction when you learned not
each bat had been arrested, not for murder, but for
transport and concealing or altering a dead body.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
I screamed, I have him to be in public. So
I had to go into the police station and I
went to the bathroom and I sat down and screamed.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
What are your thoughts at this juncture?
Speaker 3 (38:24):
I no longer think she's with us, and I'm horrified
and in pain, and.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
I'm so angry to you.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
Brian Fitzgibbons joining US Director Operations, USPA Nationwide Security.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
What will it take for a murder charge?
Speaker 11 (38:45):
Nancy? There's amount of evidence that investigators have already collected.
Now at this juncture, you got to be thinking that
somebody could come forward, somebody close to Nuresh could come
forward with information. There's going to be more digital evidence
being uncovered here as warrants are produced in this case.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
There have been many other cases where husband's typically sometimes wives,
begged for the return of their spouse. Does the name
Chris Watts ring a bell or maybe Shannan listen.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
Bella Celeste, if you're out there, just.
Speaker 10 (39:24):
Just come back, like if somebody has her, please bring
her back.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
I need to see everybody. I need to see everybody again.
Speaker 5 (39:31):
This house is not complete without anybody here.
Speaker 10 (39:35):
Back.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
That's where my friends said k mgh Denver seven. Chris
Watts later convicted in the murder of not only his wife,
but his two little girls.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
In this case, baby Nima is safe. Baby Nima is safe.
Praise the Lord for that.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
We have been told by a reliable source that baby
Niema is with friends of mom Mamta. But but as
we go to air tonight, where is Mamta?
Speaker 2 (40:17):
We wait as justice unfolds. Nancy Grace signing off, goodbye
friend
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