April 12, 2025 • 44 mins
Sudiksha Konanki, a 20-year-old University of Pittsburgh student, traveled to the Dominican Republic with five college friends on March 3, staying at the all-inclusive Riu República resort in Punta Cana.
Days later, on March 6, she disappeared under mysterious circumstances.
On the night of her disappearance, Konanki and her friends were dancing at a disco when parts of the resort experienced a 25-hour power outage. At some point, the group decided to take a moonlit walk on the beach. Surveillance footage captured Konanki walking toward the beach with five women and two men around 4:15 a.m. Approximately an hour later, five women and one man were seen leaving the beach, while Konanki remained behind with 24-year-old Joshua Riibe, a U.S. college student from Minnesota.
The next morning, Konanki’s friends went on an excursion she had not signed up for and only realized she was missing later that afternoon. When they confronted Riibe, he claimed he had fallen asleep on the beach after passing out and assumed Konanki had left before him. By this time, she had been missing for over 12 hours.
Dominican authorities launched an extensive search by land, air, and sea. They discovered her clothes near the beach but found no evidence of foul play. Riibe was questioned multiple times by investigators, including Dominican Attorney General Yeni Berenice Reynoso. His passport was confiscated, and he was monitored by police as a key witness. Riibe stated that he and Konanki were swept into the ocean by a large wave but managed to return to shore. He last saw her in knee-deep water before vomiting and falling asleep on a lounge chair.
Konanki’s parents, Subbarayudu and SreeDevi Konanki, have since requested that Dominican authorities declare their daughter legally deceased. In their letter to officials, they acknowledged Riibe’s account and expressed their belief that she likely drowned. Despite ongoing investigations, no evidence of foul play has been uncovered.
Riibe has since returned to the United States after restrictions on his travel were lifted. The case remains open as Dominican authorities continue their investigation into Konanki’s disappearance.
Joining Nancy Grace:
- Sheriff Mike Chapman - Loudoun County, Virginia, Hometown Sheriff
- Eric Faddis - Partner at Varner Faddis Elite Legal, Former Felony Prosecutor and Current Criminal Defense and Civil Litigation Attorney; Instagram: @e_fad @varnerfaddis; TikTok: @varnerfaddis
- Dr. Chloe Carmichael - Clinical Psychologist, Author: "Nervous Energy: Harness The Power of Your Anxiety;" X: @DrChloe
- Irv Brandt - Former Senior Inspector, US Marshals Service International Investigations Branch, Chief Inspector, DOJ Office of International Affairs; Country Attache, US Embassy Kingston, Jamaica, and Author: “SOLO SHOT: CURSE OF THE BLUE STONE” [available on Amazon]
- Ben Dobrin - Emergency Response Diving Instructor and Instructor Trainer, Police Diver, and Emergency Services Diver
- Joseph Scott Morgan - Professor of Forensics: Jacksonville State University, Author, "Blood Beneath My Feet," and Host: "Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan;" X: @JoScottForensic
- Emily Leayman - Northern Virginia Local Editor for Patch.com; X: @EmilyLeayman
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
In the last days, a judge makes a major ruling
on the student, the American student the last person to
see University of Pittsburgh girl Sudiksha Kananki before she disappeared,
a major ruling. I'm Nancy Grace. This is crime Stories.
Thank you for being with us. All eyes on the
(00:29):
DR Dominican Republic. When a beautiful young University of Pittsburgh student,
Sudiitsha Konanki, disappeared after a late night slash early morning
beach walk with another US student, wrestler Joshua reb According
(00:51):
to many, his statements were conflicting as he explained the
last time he saw Sadiksha after a careful examination of him,
I just agree while he added facts each time he
was questioned exhaustively, I might add by Dominican authorities. I
never saw a real conflict inconsistencies in what he said
(01:13):
that said. In the last hours, a judge in the
DR officially declares Iowa High School wrestling star Joshua Rebe,
clearing him of any involvement in the disappearance of University
of Pittsburgh students Juditsha Kunanki. This brings to an end
the high profile case that kept Rebe detained on the
(01:35):
Caribbean island for weeks. Judge Edwin Delgado reaffirms an earlier
decision that allowed Rebe, a senior Saint Cloud State University,
to come home.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
What happened?
Speaker 2 (01:51):
This beautiful young girl goes down to dr with friends.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
They're out having a good time dancing.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
They go so from moonlight, walk on the beach and
now all that's left is a sarong and some flip flops.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Listen.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
The search intensifies after what is believed to be Kanaki's
sarong and flip flops are found on a beach chair.
Local news outlet CDN post images of a white netted
beach cover up and a pair of flip flops similar
to what Sudisha was wearing when she was last seen.
The photos of what could be Kanaki's belongings are seen
sprawled across a sun lounger and in the sand beside
(02:29):
the chair.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Why are they there, How did they get there, When
did they get there, how were they found? Where are
they tampered with? We're being told no, that's the biggest
clue we've got, other than some surveillance video and what
others have to say about the night Sudi just disappears
off the map.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Now, this is what her dad says. Everything was going
okay and she was really happy to have a laication
with our parents.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
The next day she wanted to pu for her excussion,
and before that in the resort, she was fine with
the swimming pool.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
That's our friends at ABC News.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
This young girl a shining star University Pittsburgh, her world.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
In front of her.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
We've been told she was studying Premed, beautiful and brilliant.
Now all I've got left as a flip flop and
a sarong. Joining me in all star panel to makes
sense of what we are learning right now. Straight out
to Emily Layman joining us Northern Virginia local editor Patch
dot com. Emily, thank you for being with us. What happened?
(03:45):
What happened that night?
Speaker 5 (03:46):
Tadiksha was on a spring break trip with five female friends.
It was reported that she got there on March third,
and then she was last seen in the early morning
of March. So they were at the hotel Rio Republica,
which is a popular spring break bought in Punta Khana
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and the Dominican Republic. So surveillance footage shows that she
was headed to the beach with a group of friends,
and it was reported that there was a power outage
that prompted some of the hotel guests to go to
the beach in these early morning hours. But then the
surveillance footage shows that only some of that group returned
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less than an hour later, and she was.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Not Some of that group does not include her. This
beautiful young girl missing Offspring Break DR. Now joining me
special guest, Sheriff Mike Chapman. He is joining us from
Laden County Sheriff's office.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
He is the sheriff. And you may.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Wonder what does Sheriff Mike Chapman have to do with
this that she goes missing on spring break in the DR.
Sheriff Chapman, thank you for being with us, tell me
your involvement in her case.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Well, good to be with you.
Speaker 6 (05:10):
And yeah, she's a resident of Loudon County. So we
received the missing personal report from her father on the
evening of the sixth, and immediately we got on that
got ahold of the embassy down there and started getting
their involvement because we want to find out, like everybody else,
exactly what happened here. We still consider her a missing person.
(05:30):
We're doing everything in our power to work with the
authorities down there, with the FBI, with other agencies that
are working with the Dominican Republic to see if we
can bring this thing to a successful conclusion. So she's
a resident of ours. We take every missing person seriously.
I've had an opportunity to meet with the father and
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throwing my heart goes out. They're going through just to
try to set of circumstances right now, and we're doing
everything that we can to try to work with them,
with our Victim Assistant Unit kind of help with that
as well as doing everything we can to assist with
the investigation.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Sheriff Mike Chapman joining me from lowd County Sheriff's this
young girl is a resident along with her family there,
and Sheriff I can't imagine much worse than your child
going missing, and then your child going missing in another
jurisdiction across the ocean. You know, it seems like it's
(06:29):
a hop skipping a jump from the US, and it
is like, you know, an our flight, but it's.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
A world away.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Their law enforcement is different, the way they process crime
scenes their interaction with victims family and Sheriff's conjuring up
horrible image of another young girl that goes on spring
break and is never seen again.
Speaker 7 (06:54):
Listen tells me she doesn't want me to feel her up.
I insists, thank you, feeling her up either way. And
she needs me a sense of needing me in the crotch.
When she needs me in the crotch, I get up
on the beach and I kick her extremely hard in
(07:17):
the face. Yeah, she's laying down unconscious, possibly even even dead,
but definitely unconscious. And I see right next to her,
there's a there's a huge cinder block laying on the beach.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Just hearing the voice of your vanderslout, the judge's son
that murdered Natalie, it gives me a physical response. Now
that is the backdrop in everybody's mind in the search
for this beautiful young University Pittsburgh's student.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
You know, Sheriff Chapman, that has to be on your mind.
Is she dead?
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Is she a lot? Are we ever going to get
an answer because we never found Natalie's body.
Speaker 6 (08:12):
Well, of course it is. And everything's a possibility right now.
That's why we send investigators down there. To actually get
a first hand account with Joshua Revey, the last person
that we know was with her, to try to get
his side of the story. There were some inconsistencies that
surfaced kind of early on, and we wanted to get
the information firsthand. I think those inconsistencies were minor, and
(08:34):
they probably had more to do with the translation from
at least to Spanish and vice versa. But that's why
we sent people down. We want to make sure we
get in the first hand account of what's going on there,
working with the Dominicans, working with the FBI down there,
because we just want to make sure that we don't
leave any stone unturned. And we are concerned, obviously, and
we want to do everything we can to help you
(08:56):
resolve this very very challenging and difficult situation.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
I got to tell you something, Sheriff Mike Chapman, I
am so heartened and relieved that you.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Have sent your people down there.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
I have study cases in the Islands, including in Mexico
as well, and it's a whole another system, it's a
whole another variety of law enforcement there. And knowing that
your people are there now the FBI has joined in,
is quite a comfort. Now, you mentioned that the main
(09:31):
person of interest as he is now called, has given
several different statements, But after analyzing the different statements, I'm
not sure how different they really are.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Let's listen.
Speaker 8 (09:46):
In the first version of Reebey's account, he tells police
he and Kanonkey went into the water. He swallowed water
from the rough surf, which made him throw up, so
he went back to shore, but before leaving, he asked
k Donkey if she was okay. Reebe says he got
to the shore and threw up and laid down.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Okay, let's just analyze that, Okay, joining me as I
said an all star panel back to Sheriff Mike Chapman.
That is his, as it is called, his first statement.
Do you agree that that generally is his first statement?
Speaker 6 (10:18):
That seems to be yes, that would be his first statement,
and that seems to be pretty consistent with what he said.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
Since that time.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Okay, Let's take a listen to his so called second statement.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
In Joshua Reebee's second version of events, he claims he
and Sadiksha are in waste deep water where they are
talking and kissing when a rogue wave crashes over them
and sweeps them into the current. Reebe claims they try
to call for help when they surface, but there is
no one around. Reebe further claims as a certified lifeguard,
he grabs Kanaki and holds her under his arm as
(10:49):
he tries to swim back to shore, all the while
trying to get her to breathe as he pulls them
back to the beach, but struggles to catch his breath.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Okay, let's analyze what we're hearing. I don't know if
you have ever found this to be true.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Joining me high profile lawyer Eric Fattus, trial lawyer, TV
Legal Analysts founding partner Varner Fattus Elite Legal. Eric statements
disturbed me when I find a discrepancy a conflict now
upon questioning, and they've been questioning this guy for hours
(11:26):
and hours and hours, why obviously they need a question
for hours and hours and hours.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
He's the last one with her.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Everybody else leaves and leaves him, much like in the
Nalie Holloway case. Everybody her friends left her, the Calpo
brothers left them alone on the beach, and she's never
seen again. Okay, so with that as a backdrop, his
story changed your Vanderschlou's story changed dramatically. It was full
(11:54):
of conflicts, full of discrepancies.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
But when you ask questions somebody for.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Hours, hours and hours and hours, and you ask them
different questions that may elicit embellishment, additional facts you didn't
hear the first time, not necessarily a conflict.
Speaker 9 (12:10):
Yeah, Nancy, And looking at both statements, you know, the
second statement has significantly more detail. It kind of tells
more of a harrowing story of rescuing her from the sea,
which wasn't entirely present in the first statement. It's my
understanding that being said, like you mentioned, when there are
multiple interviews, it's not uncommon for additional details to come
out as as each subsequent interview is had because there
(12:34):
are new questions that are being asked. Their other details
the investigators have that they're prying into, and so it's
not entirely uncommon. And my read on it is similar
to that of the sheriffs.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Hmmm, okay, I want to believe you. I want to
believe the sheriff and impute nothing but good intentions on everyone.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
But when you look at the.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Two statements, I mean it just to me, let me
go straight out to Ben Dobrain joining me Emergency Medical
Service Marine Dive Team. Ben, it seems to me that
if I had grabbed somebody, which I have with both
of my children, by the way, on separate occasions, and
(13:21):
pulled them to shore, that I would have mentioned that
the first time. The first time, he says, he and
she went into the water. He swallowed water which made
him throw up. He went back to shore. He asked
her if she was okay. He got to shore and
threw up and laid down. Second version, he adds they're
(13:45):
kissing and making out in waste deep water. A rogue
wade crashes over them, sweeps them out into the current.
They try to call for help, no one around, and
he holds her under his arm and tries to swim
back to shore, trying to get her to Breathe that
(14:06):
is a lot of information, Ben, that he actually grabbed
her and pulled her back to safety.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
I didn't hear that the first time.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
Absolutely. And you know an interesting thing is, yes he
was a lifeguard, but he was a pool lifeguard. And
I want to point out there's a very clear distinction
between a pool lifeguard and being an ocean lifeguard. There's
very different tests, and the water is very different every
report both versions. The water was rough. Rough water is
very different than pool water. The bottom is different. In
(14:35):
the ocean, it's sandy, there's holes, there's dips, whereas in
a pool, you know, it's a pretty solid footing and
it's very predictable where it is. So you could be
walking in the water in the ocean and hit a
hole and be overhead, you know, very quickly. But for
a pool trained the lifeguard, you know, to be doing
a rescue in the ocean, there's the waves and you know,
one report said that he kept her head out of water.
(14:56):
He was trying to keep her head out of water,
but his head kept going underwater. That tells me he
didn't know how to do an ocean rescue. And it's
believable for somebody who's just a pool train lifeguard. And
you know, if he was throwing up water, if you've
ever been, you know, near drowning, and that's what that was.
If he's saying he was throwing up water, that thing
near drowning, he was concerned at that point, you know,
(15:16):
we're dealing with his own issues and not looking after her.
Whether he brought her to shore, or whether he abandoned her,
like the first one of the early versions that he
abandoned her in waste water, thinking she could walk by
herself back, with the later version saying he brought her
to shore before he let her, you know go, But
either way, you know, he's.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Suposed to go in throwing up.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Maybe projecting here, but I had a very serious dive
accident off the coast of Cosmo and nearly drowned and
was throwing up water.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
It was kind of my nose, my mouth.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
If you're in that shape, I don't know how you
can look around and see anything that's going on, which
goes to his benefit and to his detriment, because he
says he's throwing up and not paying attention.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
And he looked around as she was gone.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
On the other hand, he also says this, now listen
to the third version.
Speaker 8 (16:11):
Joshua Reebe gives a third version of events where he
heroically gets Sadisha Kononky back to shore, but says he
swallowed a lot of water and could have lost consciousness
several times. Reaching the ground of the beach, he pulls
Kanonki in front of himself and she casually walks together
her belongings in knee deep water. Reebe says he asks
her if she's okay, but doesn't hear an answer due
(16:32):
to vomiting all of the salt water He's followed while
saving Kananki. He says he looked around and doesn't see anyone.
Assume she grabbed her belongings and left. Feeling bad and tired,
Reebe says he fell asleep in a beach chair.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
In the last days, the Iowa High School wrestling star
Joshua Rebee has been cleared in the disappearance of a
gorgeous young university pit students rude Chi Kunaki's disappearance.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
So much confusion clouded her case.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
But I've got to tell you, I was very much
persuaded by Reebe's hours and hours of voluntarily speaking to
law enforcement in dr of him going to the scene
willingly answering questions, not lawyering up as we often see
(17:37):
happen in the US. Straight out to Sheriff Mike Chapman
and joining us from Laudon County Sheriff. He is the
sheriff there who has sent reps from his office from
his force down to the dr to try to find her.
I've got a question and to your understanding, why is
the FBI.
Speaker 6 (17:55):
Involved, Well, they're the contact at the US embassy, probably
the the best to lead this investigation from a US standpoint,
But you have to remember that it's a Dominican republic
is so they it really is their investigation. So the
FBI is assisting and we're assisting. And one of the
things that you brought up before, Nancy was the fact
that it's a foreign country here, and people have to understand.
(18:19):
It may seem like America when you get there, because
you know, a resort like that, people are speaking English
and they're you know, it seems very friendly with a
lot of Americans there, But the fact is it's a
foreign country and there's a lot a lot of other
things that you have to deal with when you're when
you're in a foreign country. So we're assisting the FBI,
who was actually assisting the Dominican authorities there. And but
(18:41):
again I send my people down because we wanted to
get a first hand account and not here you know,
secondhand information.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
You know, Sheriff, you've got a great record, You're beloved
and looked up to in your jurisdiction. But can we
just get real for a moment, the law enforcement in
the d R.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Are you kidding me? You think I'm going to trust
a law enforcement in the DR?
Speaker 2 (19:04):
No, I'm not.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
You know, I started writing a book, Don't be a Victim.
I got to the DR.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
I practically had to write a whole chapter for Pete's sake.
You think they've got touched DNA. You think they know
how to use a VACK at a crime scene or
complicated blood spatter or anything remotely like what we have
developed in the United States. Does that's a yes? No, Sheriff,
(19:31):
Do you really believe that their investigation even approaches what
we would consider a world class investigation like you would
find in your jurisdiction.
Speaker 6 (19:42):
Well, I'm retiring from VA. I served three times overseas,
and you're right, Nancy, you can't. You know, there's a
huge difference between what our foreign counterparts can do and
what we can do and the capabilities that we have
in the US. I think the best thing that's going
on here right now is the fact that staying in
the news it kind of forces them to make sure
that they're on their game because they've got oversight they've got,
(20:04):
they've got everybody looking at it from across the globe.
Here with regards to the media, you have the FBI
that's looking at what they're doing down there, you have
us that's looking at what they're doing.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
So the fact is that I.
Speaker 6 (20:15):
Think all that helps hold them more accountable, and it
gives us the opportunity to share some of the capabilities
that we have with them. And I know, you know,
like the FBI, for example, I believe send a dive
team down so there's a lot, there's a lot that
we can offer there. And again it's a foreign country,
so we were trying to kind of help with them,
(20:35):
help guide them through it a little bit and make
sure they're not missing anything.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Okay, Sheriff Mike Chapman, you're being overly kind in your analysis,
in my opinion, because every foreign investigation into a US
citizen going missing.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Has gone sideways.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
Listen, and when you say cinder block, looking at the
walls of this place is like those.
Speaker 7 (21:03):
Exact shames in their blocks. I see you, Shinder Black
laying on the on the beach.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
I take this and.
Speaker 7 (21:13):
I smashed her head in with it, completely her face basically,
you know, collapses in. Even though it's dark, I can
see her faces collapsed in.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Professor Forensics, Jacksonville State University, author of Blood Beneath My
Feet on Amazon, star of a hit series of body
Bags with Joseph Morgan. Joe Scott, you were with me
in the courtroom there at the Hugo Black Federal Building
with Beth Holloway. You just heard the double killer yourn
(21:47):
Vandersloot describing how he murdered Natalie Holloway in Aruba.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
And you recall, Joe Scott, that Beth and I went
back to.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
To try on our own to stir up find more clues,
more anything to help find Natalie.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Your van der.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Slute was in court fourteen years later, and we still
don't really know what happened to now.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
The only thing I know is one thing that he
sex attacked her and he murdered her.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
So all this about we're helping Dominican Republic. We better
go there and take over the investigation.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
And let them help us. You really think, Joe Scott.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Morgan, that they have adequately handled the investigation into where
is Taditsha? No, they haven't, and we lost critical time,
critical time.
Speaker 10 (22:56):
Joe Scott Yeah, pressure, pressure, pressure is what has to
constantly be applied in here, and you cannot take the
spotlight off of this case. We've seen how these cases
have gone over the years, and certainly Natalie's case is
a benchmark in time relative to what can happen as
memories begin to erode, and we don't want that to
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happen in this particular case. In the dr we have
to continue to press and I would suggest as well,
the party that she was with, and I'm talking about
this fellow that she was last seen with. I'm talking
about all of her friends that were there. They need
to be sequestered, and they need to be pressed about
(23:37):
all of the activities that they engaged in that evening
relative to any kind of consumption of alcohol, her behavior
prior to interacting with this young man, and then perhaps
if they observed her interacting with him on any level,
whether it be violent, whether it be romantic, as he
has implied, if you will, and you know, my biggest
(24:00):
thing here is were there any agents that were applied
to her relative to things that she had consumed. Remember,
one of the things that happened in the Holloway case
was that we had suspected for some period of time
that there may have been some kind of a neebriant
that was applied to her in her drinks at that
(24:21):
particular time. I'm thinking about things like GHB, date rape drugs,
those sorts of things. So word of warning here that
needs to be because listen, don't we don't have her
to do a talks draw on, Okay, so we can't
tell you what's going on with her Talkscologically, all we
have to rely upon are those people that were there
(24:44):
as witnesses to what had happened prior to her going
missing that night. That's going to be key.
Speaker 11 (24:50):
Ny A spring great trip takes a turn for the
worst when twenty year old University of Pittsburgh students Zuditcha
Kanunky vanishes after a night out.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
We're friends. Let's see that video one more time. I
want to make sure you see what I'm seeing. This
is from our friend at know to see us, our
friends that know to see us.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Now she's on the left.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Look there she goes throwing up. That's Sadiksha on the left.
A friend is there, see right there? Okay, they're talking
to each other. But if you look on the right,
we believe that is him, see him, we think on
the right throwing up out by trash can now is
(25:31):
that everyone else's understanding or is that what we're seeing?
Let's just start it over one more time, which leads
me to Joe Scott Morgan's question, what did they ingest
that's making them throw up?
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Okay, take a listen to this.
Speaker 8 (25:49):
Sadikha Kinanki and five college friends arrive in the Dominican
Republic on March third. They've booked rooms at the all
inclusive resort Rio Republica impunt Takana. A couple of days later,
Sadeksha and her friends are dancing in a disco when
the resort experiences a twenty five hour power outage in
some areas. The group of six women and two men
decide to go for a moonlight walk on the beach.
Surveillance videos document Sidiksha Kananki in five women along with
(26:12):
two men, walking toward the beach. About an hour later,
surveillance footage shows five women and one man leaving the beach.
Kananki apparently stays behind on the beach with Joshua Reeve,
a twenty four year old spring breaker from the US.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Okay, guys, you are seeing more from our friends at
SI N. Take a look at this.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Now we are seeing the two of them walking.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Ok Now, I understand that this is after There they are, Yes,
there they are, and that is consistent with what he
was wearing when he was vomiting. Remember in that video
you see the white sneakers, the white sox, the shorts,
and the backpack. That's why we believe that was him
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vomiting at a trash can outside. Now you've got another view.
This is for our friends at SIN surveillance video.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
Catch there. You see the group, they're all walking to
the beach, arm in arm there you go. Now what
happened after that?
Speaker 2 (27:10):
To doctor Chloe Carmichael, joining US clinical psychologist and author
of Nervous Energy Harness, The Pair of Your Anxiety and
you can find her on Twitter at doctor Chloe, Doctor Chloe.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
As Sheriff Mike Chapman was saying earlier, it feels like
the US, and that gives you the.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Suggestion of safety that you understand what's around you, that
you understand what's happening.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Typically, you go into.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
A bar and you're dancing and have a good time
with your friends. In the US, it's unlikely it happens,
but it's unlikely you're going to get drug to start
throwing up. It's unlikely you're going to be separated from
your friends. It can happen, but you're functioning. Maybe it's
because you're on vacation.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
I'm not sure what it is. Your defenses are down
and you're functioning in a bubble.
Speaker 12 (28:06):
Explain that, Yeah, Nancy, I agree, there's something really strange.
You know, even for spring break, it's definitely noteworthy that
they're sitting there at a bar with their friends, everyone's
dressed up, looking nice, and then they're literally sitting there puking,
but they don't even seem bothered by it. It really
does point to a serious possibility of, you know, maybe
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taking ecstasy or drugs where you kind of expect to
throw up before you then start to feel good.
Speaker 13 (28:35):
And it makes me wonder. Since that young man pictured
obviously appears to be a wrestler, I wonder if he's
on a wrestling scholarship. I wonder if that's holding him
back from coming forward and saying, yeah, I was taking
illegal drugs and there was you know, I didn't intend
to hurt her, but you know, something went wrong with
the drugs, and maybe he's concerned about losing his scholarship.
(28:59):
I'm not sure because she doesn't fit the profile of
a serious risk seeker, right. You know, she's very organized,
she's in a pre med program. She's only there on
a vacation, so something about it definitely seems strange. I
would also be curious since he says that he went
and fell asleep in a chair. That doesn't sound like
somebody who's guilty and trying to evade the scene of
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a crime. We have a lot of video of him
before the incident. I'm curious about the first time that
he appears on video after the disappearance.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
I agree with you. Now this is what he says happens. Listen.
Speaker 8 (29:33):
After the night on the beach, Kanaki's friends go on
an excursion that Kanaki had not signed up for so
they don't miss her. As they head out at eight
fifty five am, Joshua Reebe returns to his hotel room alone,
without his shoes or a shirt. It's only after Sadisha's
friends return that afternoon they realized they don't know where
Sidisha is. Tracking down Joshua Reebe, he says he passed
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out on the beach and when he awoke, he was
alone and went to his hotel room, assuming Kanaki had
already done the same. Bye, it's been twelve hours since
she was last seen.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Yeah, I want to look at the video again. But
to Eric Fattus, what about a cell phone?
Speaker 9 (30:09):
The cell phone is always a critical piece of evidence
in a case like this.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
It needs to be looked into a little more further.
Speaker 9 (30:15):
I think when you look at that video that we
just saw of the two walking near the hotel at night,
really has what appears to be a cell phone in
his hand, sort of documenting what's going on. Common sense
would tell us that that could be his cell phone.
But later in some reports I've read, he tells police
that after he's at the beach, he goes back to
his own room to get his cell phone.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
So when did he drop it off?
Speaker 9 (30:40):
Is there some sort of evidence of that, Did someone
go with him? Is there a witness statement to corroborate that.
What is going on with the cell phone and what
might it show about what happened?
Speaker 2 (30:48):
We're learning, good point, Eric Fattus. We're learning more about
the timeline now, the vomiting. The vomiting video.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Yeah, there it is. There's what believe is his.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Cell phone, you're right, Eric, And it looks like he's
videoing a selfie video.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
You're right?
Speaker 2 (31:07):
Is that his?
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Or is that hers? And has her cell.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Phone been found? The vomiting incident is around four five am. Okay,
now listen to this.
Speaker 14 (31:22):
CCTV helps start a timeline for Joshua Rebe starting around
four am when he is seen with his arm draped
around Sudeitsha Kanonkey as they are headed to the beach
at the resort. Joshua Rebe is spotted on CCTV walking
back alone from the beach at eight fifty five am.
Suditsha is not seen on CCTV.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Returning from the beach.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
So we've got four five they're throwing up and walking
toward the beach. And now look at this shot. This
is the shot we're talking about eight fifty five Between
four five am and eight fifty five am, this happens, Okay,
Sheriff Mike Chapman way in, Well, I can.
Speaker 6 (32:05):
Tell you you know, we're we are looking at the phones,
we have the numbers. There's there is work that's being
done on that. I can't really go into the detail
on that. We do have some extensive investigation that's being
done on that, and that's going to take a little
a little bit of time to get that information back.
But it's not it's not anything that's been an oversight
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on the investigator's part. We are again working with the FBI,
working with our counterparts and trying to do the best
we can to get as much information as we can
with regards to the phones.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
When you say, as much information as you can regarding
the phones, Sheriff Chapman, have they found both of their phones?
Speaker 6 (32:43):
Again, I can't really get into that. What I can
tell you is that we do have the numbers of
I believe everybody who is down there involved, and there
is there is some technical work that's being done on that.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
But again that's you know.
Speaker 6 (32:58):
It's part of the ongoing investigation and really they can't
really discuss that a whole lot more.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
After careful analysis, there's not that much difference in what
he's saying in his multiple versions. Also, according to a
Kananki family friend, he was very helpful.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Listen to what they told our friends at ABC.
Speaker 15 (33:22):
We walked to the beach along with the boy, and
the boy helped us, and he was annoying us, kind
of like what really happened and where he was?
Speaker 1 (33:32):
Our friends at ABC Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Joshua Reebe, the Iowa high school wrestling star, is home
back on US soil after a Dominican Republic judge officially
clears him. It was a nightmare for both Reebe's family
and the family of a gorgeous young University pit student,
Sudiksha Kananki.
Speaker 11 (34:11):
The investigation intensifies for missing twenty year old Pittsburgh student
Sudiitsha Kanonky.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
The last see him on the beach well on a
spring break trip with friends. Where is Sudiksha? How is it?
Speaker 2 (34:26):
She goes out to the beach, she is kissing a
guy and about waste deep water, and suddenly she's washed
out to see.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Rebe the well. It's a so called person of interest.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
But now we're learning that dr is backtracking saying he's
not really a person of interest.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
He's a witness.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Now I find that really interesting that they're holding him there.
He can't believe they've got his passport yet. He's just
a witness. Let me ask you about that, or Brant.
Now I am transposing the US justice system onto the
dr which was anything but true. But you have to
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be a POI or a suspect or be named a
material witness by a court before you can have your
passport taken, seized and forced to stay there.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
At least that's a law in the US. What's happening, Well,
it's exactly what you said, Nancy.
Speaker 16 (35:30):
We view these things as we would view them in
the US, which once you leave the US, it's completely different.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Their country, their rules, and not in a good way
or not in a good way.
Speaker 16 (35:45):
No, I no, I agree in most cases, Nancy, I
worked extensively outside of the country and it's very frustrating.
But each country has their own way of doing things.
And if they take his passport, then they take his
passport and he can leave until they tell him he
can leave.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
I've never accused you of putting perfume on the pig,
but I guess I'll have to do it for the
first time right now or brand. Every country has their
own way of doing things, you mean, their own way
of botching up an investigation. Wouldn't that be a little
more accurate, just like Innaruba.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
Yes, that would be more accurate.
Speaker 16 (36:22):
Nancy, I'm being far too nice.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
Yeah, and I don't know why, because every hour counts.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
If she is still alive and there is that possibility
anything could have happened to her, every hour counts.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
And while we are.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
Tiptoeing around the fact that the DR is screwing this up,
that's one more hour lost Earth, one more hour, Thank Heaven, Chapman,
send his people down in the FBI are involved.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
I mean, Joe Scott helped me out. Am I just
screaming down the window going down Third Avenue.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
Every hour counts here, and we can't really on the
DR to do anything.
Speaker 4 (37:02):
One of the.
Speaker 10 (37:02):
Biggest concerns for me, Nancy, is the idea that this
is not like a broad spectrum approach relative to an investigation.
If they're only focused on this one kid here, this
one guy they that she was last seen with, you're
going to miss other things along the way. I have
a real issue with both of these, both of these
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individuals almost throwing up simultaneously at that bar. I want
to know if there's any other kind of illness that
could be associated there on there, and I want to
know if anybody's been following this.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
J Scott, do you recall the extensive investigation we did
into alcohol poisoning at these all inclusive result resorts that
have ended in the deaths of several Americans. You go
to a bar, you have something to drink. Is bootleg
whiskey put in a US bottle? Okay, it might say
(37:59):
Seagrams or something else on the front, but you're getting
some hooch made of somebody's garage.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
Okay, No, look that's happening.
Speaker 10 (38:08):
Dave and I just covered cases out of Southeast Asia
involved in methanol, and they're a huge group of these
cases that have happened in Turkey as well, Nancy. Where
you're not using ethanol, which is what we consume alcohol wise,
they make bootleg hooch or bathtub gin out of methanol,
which is very, very dangerous stuff. I want to know
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if there's any other instances down in the dr at
this specific resort that have led and it can lead
to things like blindness, nausea, and ultimately death. I want
to know if anybody else was presenting that way that night.
That's what I mean by broad spectrum here. You can't
just narrow your focus down to this one event. We
want to know what else was going on around them
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that night, and again, this could be a PR nightmare
for the dr if there is any kind of problem
with an alcohol down like it was.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
A PR nightmare for Aruba and Natalie went missing, tourism
from the US skyrocketed.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
Okay, so when you don't know a horse, look at
the track.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Record, when you don't know what's gonna happen, look at
what already did happen.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
But I agree with you, Joe Scott. We can't get
total vision on Rebe. Now.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
Yes, I've got a problem with him. Of course I've
got a problem with him. He's the last one with
a girl in All I've got is a flip flop
and a sarong. He's the last one with her, and
his story is all over the map, not necessarily consistent though,
So yes, I'm looking at him, but total vision is
not going to help find her.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
And as a matter of fact, this is what people
that know Rebee have to say. Josh was just so polite.
He was a good teenmate in sports, and he was
part of the boy scout troop.
Speaker 5 (39:53):
Never heard of girl you No, I don't know what happened,
but there's no way he would have intentionally been aren't
in any scheme to do something to her.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
From our friends at GMA, authorities are looking at on
Iowa Man believed to be the.
Speaker 11 (40:09):
Last person to see missing University of Pittsburgh students Tuditcha Kanunki.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
Also under the microscope. Two THENMO payments.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
One we don't know exactly what it is, but Sudiksha
put an emoji of a sailboat beside the VENMO payment,
you know, you can put a little message in there.
And the other one is to replaced Coco Bongo to
Emily Layman joining us from past dot Com, explained to
me about the two venmos and where they fit into
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the timeline.
Speaker 5 (40:41):
They've fit in the timeline because those are the last
VENMO transactions that she had, and these are you know,
you think, payments that she would send between friends for
the activities that they were doing when they were on
their spring break trip. But one of them, of course,
you don't really know much about because all it has
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is a sailboat emoji, and we don't really know much
information about who that went to. And then the other one,
of course, you know, I went to who was confirmed
to be a friend with her on the trip. But
we don't know who else was at that nightclub.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
The thinking is the sailboat emerging emoji indicates it could
have been an excursion. And like doctor Chloe Carmichael was
telling us earlier, you kind of suspend your reality. You're
functioning under the illusion that you're safe. You meet a
guy and you immediately go for a walk on the
beach and go out in the water with him alone.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
Why why?
Speaker 2 (41:42):
Of course she's young, But it's happened before, and not
just with Natalie Holloway.
Speaker 17 (41:48):
Robin Gardner needed a get away. Gardner had met Gary
Giordano on match dot Com a year before. Friends say
the two weren't super close and had a platonic relationship,
but stating contact via email. When the invitation came, Robin
said yes, and the pair arrived in Aruba July thirty.
Speaker 15 (42:06):
First, I was told that she was lost at sea,
and I just found that very surprising because I know
that she really doesn't swim or get into the water
because she has extensions and her.
Speaker 4 (42:22):
Makeup and got all gold up, and she.
Speaker 15 (42:26):
Just didn't want to ruin that.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
And that was Robin's sister talking to me, and apparently
with Robin Gardner's case, she just washed out to see okay,
although she would never have gotten in the water after
just having.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
Her hair done. And there's more. What about Wesley Bell?
Speaker 8 (42:44):
Ex's native Wesley Bell is in the Bahamas attending a
yoga retreat on Paradise Island in NASA. The Seven Andra
Ashram Yoga Retreat, Bahamas featured in The New York Times
Gwyneth Paltrow's Goop and huff Post as a top travel destination.
Danielle Ward Packard, who was at the retreat at the
same time as Belle, says he walked off by himself
to snorkel one day and never returned. Searches are conducted,
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but Belle has never found and Taylor Casey. Taylor Casey
goes missing from the same Behavian retreat. Casey disappears about
halfway through getting a yoga instructor's certification at seven Hundron
Ashron Yoga. Last scene at the Ashram, She's reported missing
after failing to show up for morning classes. Police find
her phone in the water days later, but haven't been
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able to access its contents, and she remains missing.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
To Sheriff Mike Chapman, how is it people just walk
out in the water and they're never seen again according
to reports.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
Don't you find that disturbing, Sheriff, of.
Speaker 6 (43:43):
Course, I mean if that was the case in this case,
I mean, you know, you certainly would hope for a recovery,
a quick recovery, but that hasn't happened. So that's why
we can't really jump on of conclusions just jamp but yeah,
it's a shame, but it does happened.
Speaker 4 (44:00):
From time to time.
Speaker 2 (44:01):
Joshua Reebe is home on us soil after much drama,
much fear, much suffering on the part of his family
in Dominican Republic. They flew there to bring their son home. Sadly,
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Sudicia Konaki's family may never bring their daughter home. While
we send our prayers to Sudha's family, we are relieved,
along with Reebe's family, that their son is home.
Speaker 1 (44:38):
Goodbye friend.
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
In the last days, a judge makes a major ruling
on the student, the American student the last person to
see University of Pittsburgh girl Sudiksha Kananki before she disappeared,
a major ruling. I'm Nancy Grace. This is crime Stories.
Thank you for being with us. All eyes on the
(00:29):
DR Dominican Republic. When a beautiful young University of Pittsburgh student,
Sudiitsha Konanki, disappeared after a late night slash early morning
beach walk with another US student, wrestler Joshua reb According
(00:51):
to many, his statements were conflicting as he explained the
last time he saw Sadiksha after a careful examination of him,
I just agree while he added facts each time he
was questioned exhaustively, I might add by Dominican authorities. I
never saw a real conflict inconsistencies in what he said
(01:13):
that said. In the last hours, a judge in the
DR officially declares Iowa High School wrestling star Joshua Rebe,
clearing him of any involvement in the disappearance of University
of Pittsburgh students Juditsha Kunanki. This brings to an end
the high profile case that kept Rebe detained on the
(01:35):
Caribbean island for weeks. Judge Edwin Delgado reaffirms an earlier
decision that allowed Rebe, a senior Saint Cloud State University,
to come home.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
What happened?
Speaker 2 (01:51):
This beautiful young girl goes down to dr with friends.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
They're out having a good time dancing.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
They go so from moonlight, walk on the beach and
now all that's left is a sarong and some flip flops.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Listen.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
The search intensifies after what is believed to be Kanaki's
sarong and flip flops are found on a beach chair.
Local news outlet CDN post images of a white netted
beach cover up and a pair of flip flops similar
to what Sudisha was wearing when she was last seen.
The photos of what could be Kanaki's belongings are seen
sprawled across a sun lounger and in the sand beside
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the chair.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Why are they there, How did they get there, When
did they get there, how were they found? Where are
they tampered with? We're being told no, that's the biggest
clue we've got, other than some surveillance video and what
others have to say about the night Sudi just disappears
off the map.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Now, this is what her dad says. Everything was going
okay and she was really happy to have a laication
with our parents.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
The next day she wanted to pu for her excussion,
and before that in the resort, she was fine with
the swimming pool.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
That's our friends at ABC News.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
This young girl a shining star University Pittsburgh, her world.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
In front of her.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
We've been told she was studying Premed, beautiful and brilliant.
Now all I've got left as a flip flop and
a sarong. Joining me in all star panel to makes
sense of what we are learning right now. Straight out
to Emily Layman joining us Northern Virginia local editor Patch
dot com. Emily, thank you for being with us. What happened?
(03:45):
What happened that night?
Speaker 5 (03:46):
Tadiksha was on a spring break trip with five female friends.
It was reported that she got there on March third,
and then she was last seen in the early morning
of March. So they were at the hotel Rio Republica,
which is a popular spring break bought in Punta Khana
(04:09):
and the Dominican Republic. So surveillance footage shows that she
was headed to the beach with a group of friends,
and it was reported that there was a power outage
that prompted some of the hotel guests to go to
the beach in these early morning hours. But then the
surveillance footage shows that only some of that group returned
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less than an hour later, and she was.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Not Some of that group does not include her. This
beautiful young girl missing Offspring Break DR. Now joining me
special guest, Sheriff Mike Chapman. He is joining us from
Laden County Sheriff's office.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
He is the sheriff. And you may.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Wonder what does Sheriff Mike Chapman have to do with
this that she goes missing on spring break in the DR.
Sheriff Chapman, thank you for being with us, tell me
your involvement in her case.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Well, good to be with you.
Speaker 6 (05:10):
And yeah, she's a resident of Loudon County. So we
received the missing personal report from her father on the
evening of the sixth, and immediately we got on that
got ahold of the embassy down there and started getting
their involvement because we want to find out, like everybody else,
exactly what happened here. We still consider her a missing person.
(05:30):
We're doing everything in our power to work with the
authorities down there, with the FBI, with other agencies that
are working with the Dominican Republic to see if we
can bring this thing to a successful conclusion. So she's
a resident of ours. We take every missing person seriously.
I've had an opportunity to meet with the father and
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throwing my heart goes out. They're going through just to
try to set of circumstances right now, and we're doing
everything that we can to try to work with them,
with our Victim Assistant Unit kind of help with that
as well as doing everything we can to assist with
the investigation.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Sheriff Mike Chapman joining me from lowd County Sheriff's this
young girl is a resident along with her family there,
and Sheriff I can't imagine much worse than your child
going missing, and then your child going missing in another
jurisdiction across the ocean. You know, it seems like it's
(06:29):
a hop skipping a jump from the US, and it
is like, you know, an our flight, but it's.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
A world away.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Their law enforcement is different, the way they process crime
scenes their interaction with victims family and Sheriff's conjuring up
horrible image of another young girl that goes on spring
break and is never seen again.
Speaker 7 (06:54):
Listen tells me she doesn't want me to feel her up.
I insists, thank you, feeling her up either way. And
she needs me a sense of needing me in the crotch.
When she needs me in the crotch, I get up
on the beach and I kick her extremely hard in
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the face. Yeah, she's laying down unconscious, possibly even even dead,
but definitely unconscious. And I see right next to her,
there's a there's a huge cinder block laying on the beach.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Just hearing the voice of your vanderslout, the judge's son
that murdered Natalie, it gives me a physical response. Now
that is the backdrop in everybody's mind in the search
for this beautiful young University Pittsburgh's student.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
You know, Sheriff Chapman, that has to be on your mind.
Is she dead?
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Is she a lot? Are we ever going to get
an answer because we never found Natalie's body.
Speaker 6 (08:12):
Well, of course it is. And everything's a possibility right now.
That's why we send investigators down there. To actually get
a first hand account with Joshua Revey, the last person
that we know was with her, to try to get
his side of the story. There were some inconsistencies that
surfaced kind of early on, and we wanted to get
the information firsthand. I think those inconsistencies were minor, and
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they probably had more to do with the translation from
at least to Spanish and vice versa. But that's why
we sent people down. We want to make sure we
get in the first hand account of what's going on there,
working with the Dominicans, working with the FBI down there,
because we just want to make sure that we don't
leave any stone unturned. And we are concerned, obviously, and
we want to do everything we can to help you
(08:56):
resolve this very very challenging and difficult situation.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
I got to tell you something, Sheriff Mike Chapman, I
am so heartened and relieved that you.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Have sent your people down there.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
I have study cases in the Islands, including in Mexico
as well, and it's a whole another system, it's a
whole another variety of law enforcement there. And knowing that
your people are there now the FBI has joined in,
is quite a comfort. Now, you mentioned that the main
(09:31):
person of interest as he is now called, has given
several different statements, But after analyzing the different statements, I'm
not sure how different they really are.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Let's listen.
Speaker 8 (09:46):
In the first version of Reebey's account, he tells police
he and Kanonkey went into the water. He swallowed water
from the rough surf, which made him throw up, so
he went back to shore, but before leaving, he asked
k Donkey if she was okay. Reebe says he got
to the shore and threw up and laid down.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Okay, let's just analyze that, Okay, joining me as I
said an all star panel back to Sheriff Mike Chapman.
That is his, as it is called, his first statement.
Do you agree that that generally is his first statement?
Speaker 6 (10:18):
That seems to be yes, that would be his first statement,
and that seems to be pretty consistent with what he said.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
Since that time.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Okay, Let's take a listen to his so called second statement.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
In Joshua Reebee's second version of events, he claims he
and Sadiksha are in waste deep water where they are
talking and kissing when a rogue wave crashes over them
and sweeps them into the current. Reebe claims they try
to call for help when they surface, but there is
no one around. Reebe further claims as a certified lifeguard,
he grabs Kanaki and holds her under his arm as
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he tries to swim back to shore, all the while
trying to get her to breathe as he pulls them
back to the beach, but struggles to catch his breath.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Okay, let's analyze what we're hearing. I don't know if
you have ever found this to be true.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Joining me high profile lawyer Eric Fattus, trial lawyer, TV
Legal Analysts founding partner Varner Fattus Elite Legal. Eric statements
disturbed me when I find a discrepancy a conflict now
upon questioning, and they've been questioning this guy for hours
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and hours and hours, why obviously they need a question
for hours and hours and hours.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
He's the last one with her.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Everybody else leaves and leaves him, much like in the
Nalie Holloway case. Everybody her friends left her, the Calpo
brothers left them alone on the beach, and she's never
seen again. Okay, so with that as a backdrop, his
story changed your Vanderschlou's story changed dramatically. It was full
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of conflicts, full of discrepancies.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
But when you ask questions somebody for.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Hours, hours and hours and hours, and you ask them
different questions that may elicit embellishment, additional facts you didn't
hear the first time, not necessarily a conflict.
Speaker 9 (12:10):
Yeah, Nancy, And looking at both statements, you know, the
second statement has significantly more detail. It kind of tells
more of a harrowing story of rescuing her from the sea,
which wasn't entirely present in the first statement. It's my
understanding that being said, like you mentioned, when there are
multiple interviews, it's not uncommon for additional details to come
out as as each subsequent interview is had because there
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are new questions that are being asked. Their other details
the investigators have that they're prying into, and so it's
not entirely uncommon. And my read on it is similar
to that of the sheriffs.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Hmmm, okay, I want to believe you. I want to
believe the sheriff and impute nothing but good intentions on everyone.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
But when you look at the.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Two statements, I mean it just to me, let me
go straight out to Ben Dobrain joining me Emergency Medical
Service Marine Dive Team. Ben, it seems to me that
if I had grabbed somebody, which I have with both
of my children, by the way, on separate occasions, and
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pulled them to shore, that I would have mentioned that
the first time. The first time, he says, he and
she went into the water. He swallowed water which made
him throw up. He went back to shore. He asked
her if she was okay. He got to shore and
threw up and laid down. Second version, he adds they're
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kissing and making out in waste deep water. A rogue
wade crashes over them, sweeps them out into the current.
They try to call for help, no one around, and
he holds her under his arm and tries to swim
back to shore, trying to get her to Breathe that
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is a lot of information, Ben, that he actually grabbed
her and pulled her back to safety.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
I didn't hear that the first time.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
Absolutely. And you know an interesting thing is, yes he
was a lifeguard, but he was a pool lifeguard. And
I want to point out there's a very clear distinction
between a pool lifeguard and being an ocean lifeguard. There's
very different tests, and the water is very different every
report both versions. The water was rough. Rough water is
very different than pool water. The bottom is different. In
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the ocean, it's sandy, there's holes, there's dips, whereas in
a pool, you know, it's a pretty solid footing and
it's very predictable where it is. So you could be
walking in the water in the ocean and hit a
hole and be overhead, you know, very quickly. But for
a pool trained the lifeguard, you know, to be doing
a rescue in the ocean, there's the waves and you know,
one report said that he kept her head out of water.
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He was trying to keep her head out of water,
but his head kept going underwater. That tells me he
didn't know how to do an ocean rescue. And it's
believable for somebody who's just a pool train lifeguard. And
you know, if he was throwing up water, if you've
ever been, you know, near drowning, and that's what that was.
If he's saying he was throwing up water, that thing
near drowning, he was concerned at that point, you know,
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we're dealing with his own issues and not looking after her.
Whether he brought her to shore, or whether he abandoned her,
like the first one of the early versions that he
abandoned her in waste water, thinking she could walk by
herself back, with the later version saying he brought her
to shore before he let her, you know go, But
either way, you know, he's.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Suposed to go in throwing up.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Maybe projecting here, but I had a very serious dive
accident off the coast of Cosmo and nearly drowned and
was throwing up water.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
It was kind of my nose, my mouth.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
If you're in that shape, I don't know how you
can look around and see anything that's going on, which
goes to his benefit and to his detriment, because he
says he's throwing up and not paying attention.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
And he looked around as she was gone.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
On the other hand, he also says this, now listen
to the third version.
Speaker 8 (16:11):
Joshua Reebe gives a third version of events where he
heroically gets Sadisha Kononky back to shore, but says he
swallowed a lot of water and could have lost consciousness
several times. Reaching the ground of the beach, he pulls
Kanonki in front of himself and she casually walks together
her belongings in knee deep water. Reebe says he asks
her if she's okay, but doesn't hear an answer due
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to vomiting all of the salt water He's followed while
saving Kananki. He says he looked around and doesn't see anyone.
Assume she grabbed her belongings and left. Feeling bad and tired,
Reebe says he fell asleep in a beach chair.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
In the last days, the Iowa High School wrestling star
Joshua Rebee has been cleared in the disappearance of a
gorgeous young university pit students rude Chi Kunaki's disappearance.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
So much confusion clouded her case.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
But I've got to tell you, I was very much
persuaded by Reebe's hours and hours of voluntarily speaking to
law enforcement in dr of him going to the scene
willingly answering questions, not lawyering up as we often see
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happen in the US. Straight out to Sheriff Mike Chapman
and joining us from Laudon County Sheriff. He is the
sheriff there who has sent reps from his office from
his force down to the dr to try to find her.
I've got a question and to your understanding, why is
the FBI.
Speaker 6 (17:55):
Involved, Well, they're the contact at the US embassy, probably
the the best to lead this investigation from a US standpoint,
But you have to remember that it's a Dominican republic
is so they it really is their investigation. So the
FBI is assisting and we're assisting. And one of the
things that you brought up before, Nancy was the fact
that it's a foreign country here, and people have to understand.
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It may seem like America when you get there, because
you know, a resort like that, people are speaking English
and they're you know, it seems very friendly with a
lot of Americans there, But the fact is it's a
foreign country and there's a lot a lot of other
things that you have to deal with when you're when
you're in a foreign country. So we're assisting the FBI,
who was actually assisting the Dominican authorities there. And but
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again I send my people down because we wanted to
get a first hand account and not here you know,
secondhand information.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
You know, Sheriff, you've got a great record, You're beloved
and looked up to in your jurisdiction. But can we
just get real for a moment, the law enforcement in
the d R.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Are you kidding me? You think I'm going to trust
a law enforcement in the DR?
Speaker 2 (19:04):
No, I'm not.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
You know, I started writing a book, Don't be a Victim.
I got to the DR.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
I practically had to write a whole chapter for Pete's sake.
You think they've got touched DNA. You think they know
how to use a VACK at a crime scene or
complicated blood spatter or anything remotely like what we have
developed in the United States. Does that's a yes? No, Sheriff,
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Do you really believe that their investigation even approaches what
we would consider a world class investigation like you would
find in your jurisdiction.
Speaker 6 (19:42):
Well, I'm retiring from VA. I served three times overseas,
and you're right, Nancy, you can't. You know, there's a
huge difference between what our foreign counterparts can do and
what we can do and the capabilities that we have
in the US. I think the best thing that's going
on here right now is the fact that staying in
the news it kind of forces them to make sure
that they're on their game because they've got oversight they've got,
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they've got everybody looking at it from across the globe.
Here with regards to the media, you have the FBI
that's looking at what they're doing down there, you have
us that's looking at what they're doing.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
So the fact is that I.
Speaker 6 (20:15):
Think all that helps hold them more accountable, and it
gives us the opportunity to share some of the capabilities
that we have with them. And I know, you know,
like the FBI, for example, I believe send a dive
team down so there's a lot, there's a lot that
we can offer there. And again it's a foreign country,
so we were trying to kind of help with them,
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help guide them through it a little bit and make
sure they're not missing anything.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Okay, Sheriff Mike Chapman, you're being overly kind in your analysis,
in my opinion, because every foreign investigation into a US
citizen going missing.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Has gone sideways.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
Listen, and when you say cinder block, looking at the
walls of this place is like those.
Speaker 7 (21:03):
Exact shames in their blocks. I see you, Shinder Black
laying on the on the beach.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
I take this and.
Speaker 7 (21:13):
I smashed her head in with it, completely her face basically,
you know, collapses in. Even though it's dark, I can
see her faces collapsed in.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Professor Forensics, Jacksonville State University, author of Blood Beneath My
Feet on Amazon, star of a hit series of body
Bags with Joseph Morgan. Joe Scott, you were with me
in the courtroom there at the Hugo Black Federal Building
with Beth Holloway. You just heard the double killer yourn
(21:47):
Vandersloot describing how he murdered Natalie Holloway in Aruba.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
And you recall, Joe Scott, that Beth and I went
back to.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
To try on our own to stir up find more clues,
more anything to help find Natalie.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Your van der.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Slute was in court fourteen years later, and we still
don't really know what happened to now.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
The only thing I know is one thing that he
sex attacked her and he murdered her.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
So all this about we're helping Dominican Republic. We better
go there and take over the investigation.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
And let them help us. You really think, Joe Scott.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Morgan, that they have adequately handled the investigation into where
is Taditsha? No, they haven't, and we lost critical time,
critical time.
Speaker 10 (22:56):
Joe Scott Yeah, pressure, pressure, pressure is what has to
constantly be applied in here, and you cannot take the
spotlight off of this case. We've seen how these cases
have gone over the years, and certainly Natalie's case is
a benchmark in time relative to what can happen as
memories begin to erode, and we don't want that to
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happen in this particular case. In the dr we have
to continue to press and I would suggest as well,
the party that she was with, and I'm talking about
this fellow that she was last seen with. I'm talking
about all of her friends that were there. They need
to be sequestered, and they need to be pressed about
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all of the activities that they engaged in that evening
relative to any kind of consumption of alcohol, her behavior
prior to interacting with this young man, and then perhaps
if they observed her interacting with him on any level,
whether it be violent, whether it be romantic, as he
has implied, if you will, and you know, my biggest
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thing here is were there any agents that were applied
to her relative to things that she had consumed. Remember,
one of the things that happened in the Holloway case
was that we had suspected for some period of time
that there may have been some kind of a neebriant
that was applied to her in her drinks at that
(24:21):
particular time. I'm thinking about things like GHB, date rape drugs,
those sorts of things. So word of warning here that
needs to be because listen, don't we don't have her
to do a talks draw on, Okay, so we can't
tell you what's going on with her Talkscologically, all we
have to rely upon are those people that were there
(24:44):
as witnesses to what had happened prior to her going
missing that night. That's going to be key.
Speaker 11 (24:50):
Ny A spring great trip takes a turn for the
worst when twenty year old University of Pittsburgh students Zuditcha
Kanunky vanishes after a night out.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
We're friends. Let's see that video one more time. I
want to make sure you see what I'm seeing. This
is from our friend at know to see us, our
friends that know to see us.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Now she's on the left.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Look there she goes throwing up. That's Sadiksha on the left.
A friend is there, see right there? Okay, they're talking
to each other. But if you look on the right,
we believe that is him, see him, we think on
the right throwing up out by trash can now is
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that everyone else's understanding or is that what we're seeing?
Let's just start it over one more time, which leads
me to Joe Scott Morgan's question, what did they ingest
that's making them throw up?
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Okay, take a listen to this.
Speaker 8 (25:49):
Sadikha Kinanki and five college friends arrive in the Dominican
Republic on March third. They've booked rooms at the all
inclusive resort Rio Republica impunt Takana. A couple of days later,
Sadeksha and her friends are dancing in a disco when
the resort experiences a twenty five hour power outage in
some areas. The group of six women and two men
decide to go for a moonlight walk on the beach.
Surveillance videos document Sidiksha Kananki in five women along with
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two men, walking toward the beach. About an hour later,
surveillance footage shows five women and one man leaving the beach.
Kananki apparently stays behind on the beach with Joshua Reeve,
a twenty four year old spring breaker from the US.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Okay, guys, you are seeing more from our friends at
SI N. Take a look at this.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Now we are seeing the two of them walking.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Ok Now, I understand that this is after There they are, Yes,
there they are, and that is consistent with what he
was wearing when he was vomiting. Remember in that video
you see the white sneakers, the white sox, the shorts,
and the backpack. That's why we believe that was him
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vomiting at a trash can outside. Now you've got another view.
This is for our friends at SIN surveillance video.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
Catch there. You see the group, they're all walking to
the beach, arm in arm there you go. Now what
happened after that?
Speaker 2 (27:10):
To doctor Chloe Carmichael, joining US clinical psychologist and author
of Nervous Energy Harness, The Pair of Your Anxiety and
you can find her on Twitter at doctor Chloe, Doctor Chloe.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
As Sheriff Mike Chapman was saying earlier, it feels like
the US, and that gives you the.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Suggestion of safety that you understand what's around you, that
you understand what's happening.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Typically, you go into.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
A bar and you're dancing and have a good time
with your friends. In the US, it's unlikely it happens,
but it's unlikely you're going to get drug to start
throwing up. It's unlikely you're going to be separated from
your friends. It can happen, but you're functioning. Maybe it's
because you're on vacation.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
I'm not sure what it is. Your defenses are down
and you're functioning in a bubble.
Speaker 12 (28:06):
Explain that, Yeah, Nancy, I agree, there's something really strange.
You know, even for spring break, it's definitely noteworthy that
they're sitting there at a bar with their friends, everyone's
dressed up, looking nice, and then they're literally sitting there puking,
but they don't even seem bothered by it. It really
does point to a serious possibility of, you know, maybe
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taking ecstasy or drugs where you kind of expect to
throw up before you then start to feel good.
Speaker 13 (28:35):
And it makes me wonder. Since that young man pictured
obviously appears to be a wrestler, I wonder if he's
on a wrestling scholarship. I wonder if that's holding him
back from coming forward and saying, yeah, I was taking
illegal drugs and there was you know, I didn't intend
to hurt her, but you know, something went wrong with
the drugs, and maybe he's concerned about losing his scholarship.
(28:59):
I'm not sure because she doesn't fit the profile of
a serious risk seeker, right. You know, she's very organized,
she's in a pre med program. She's only there on
a vacation, so something about it definitely seems strange. I
would also be curious since he says that he went
and fell asleep in a chair. That doesn't sound like
somebody who's guilty and trying to evade the scene of
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a crime. We have a lot of video of him
before the incident. I'm curious about the first time that
he appears on video after the disappearance.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
I agree with you. Now this is what he says happens. Listen.
Speaker 8 (29:33):
After the night on the beach, Kanaki's friends go on
an excursion that Kanaki had not signed up for so
they don't miss her. As they head out at eight
fifty five am, Joshua Reebe returns to his hotel room alone,
without his shoes or a shirt. It's only after Sadisha's
friends return that afternoon they realized they don't know where
Sidisha is. Tracking down Joshua Reebe, he says he passed
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out on the beach and when he awoke, he was
alone and went to his hotel room, assuming Kanaki had
already done the same. Bye, it's been twelve hours since
she was last seen.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Yeah, I want to look at the video again. But
to Eric Fattus, what about a cell phone?
Speaker 9 (30:09):
The cell phone is always a critical piece of evidence
in a case like this.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
It needs to be looked into a little more further.
Speaker 9 (30:15):
I think when you look at that video that we
just saw of the two walking near the hotel at night,
really has what appears to be a cell phone in
his hand, sort of documenting what's going on. Common sense
would tell us that that could be his cell phone.
But later in some reports I've read, he tells police
that after he's at the beach, he goes back to
his own room to get his cell phone.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
So when did he drop it off?
Speaker 9 (30:40):
Is there some sort of evidence of that, Did someone
go with him? Is there a witness statement to corroborate that.
What is going on with the cell phone and what
might it show about what happened?
Speaker 2 (30:48):
We're learning, good point, Eric Fattus. We're learning more about
the timeline now, the vomiting. The vomiting video.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Yeah, there it is. There's what believe is his.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Cell phone, you're right, Eric, And it looks like he's
videoing a selfie video.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
You're right?
Speaker 2 (31:07):
Is that his?
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Or is that hers? And has her cell.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Phone been found? The vomiting incident is around four five am. Okay,
now listen to this.
Speaker 14 (31:22):
CCTV helps start a timeline for Joshua Rebe starting around
four am when he is seen with his arm draped
around Sudeitsha Kanonkey as they are headed to the beach
at the resort. Joshua Rebe is spotted on CCTV walking
back alone from the beach at eight fifty five am.
Suditsha is not seen on CCTV.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Returning from the beach.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
So we've got four five they're throwing up and walking
toward the beach. And now look at this shot. This
is the shot we're talking about eight fifty five Between
four five am and eight fifty five am, this happens, Okay,
Sheriff Mike Chapman way in, Well, I can.
Speaker 6 (32:05):
Tell you you know, we're we are looking at the phones,
we have the numbers. There's there is work that's being
done on that. I can't really go into the detail
on that. We do have some extensive investigation that's being
done on that, and that's going to take a little
a little bit of time to get that information back.
But it's not it's not anything that's been an oversight
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on the investigator's part. We are again working with the FBI,
working with our counterparts and trying to do the best
we can to get as much information as we can
with regards to the phones.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
When you say, as much information as you can regarding
the phones, Sheriff Chapman, have they found both of their phones?
Speaker 6 (32:43):
Again, I can't really get into that. What I can
tell you is that we do have the numbers of
I believe everybody who is down there involved, and there
is there is some technical work that's being done on that.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
But again that's you know.
Speaker 6 (32:58):
It's part of the ongoing investigation and really they can't
really discuss that a whole lot more.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
After careful analysis, there's not that much difference in what
he's saying in his multiple versions. Also, according to a
Kananki family friend, he was very helpful.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Listen to what they told our friends at ABC.
Speaker 15 (33:22):
We walked to the beach along with the boy, and
the boy helped us, and he was annoying us, kind
of like what really happened and where he was?
Speaker 1 (33:32):
Our friends at ABC Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Joshua Reebe, the Iowa high school wrestling star, is home
back on US soil after a Dominican Republic judge officially
clears him. It was a nightmare for both Reebe's family
and the family of a gorgeous young University pit student,
Sudiksha Kananki.
Speaker 11 (34:11):
The investigation intensifies for missing twenty year old Pittsburgh student
Sudiitsha Kanonky.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
The last see him on the beach well on a
spring break trip with friends. Where is Sudiksha? How is it?
Speaker 2 (34:26):
She goes out to the beach, she is kissing a
guy and about waste deep water, and suddenly she's washed
out to see.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Rebe the well. It's a so called person of interest.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
But now we're learning that dr is backtracking saying he's
not really a person of interest.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
He's a witness.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Now I find that really interesting that they're holding him there.
He can't believe they've got his passport yet. He's just
a witness. Let me ask you about that, or Brant.
Now I am transposing the US justice system onto the
dr which was anything but true. But you have to
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be a POI or a suspect or be named a
material witness by a court before you can have your
passport taken, seized and forced to stay there.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
At least that's a law in the US. What's happening, Well,
it's exactly what you said, Nancy.
Speaker 16 (35:30):
We view these things as we would view them in
the US, which once you leave the US, it's completely different.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Their country, their rules, and not in a good way
or not in a good way.
Speaker 16 (35:45):
No, I no, I agree in most cases, Nancy, I
worked extensively outside of the country and it's very frustrating.
But each country has their own way of doing things.
And if they take his passport, then they take his
passport and he can leave until they tell him he
can leave.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
I've never accused you of putting perfume on the pig,
but I guess I'll have to do it for the
first time right now or brand. Every country has their
own way of doing things, you mean, their own way
of botching up an investigation. Wouldn't that be a little
more accurate, just like Innaruba.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
Yes, that would be more accurate.
Speaker 16 (36:22):
Nancy, I'm being far too nice.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
Yeah, and I don't know why, because every hour counts.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
If she is still alive and there is that possibility
anything could have happened to her, every hour counts.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
And while we are.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
Tiptoeing around the fact that the DR is screwing this up,
that's one more hour lost Earth, one more hour, Thank Heaven, Chapman,
send his people down in the FBI are involved.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
I mean, Joe Scott helped me out. Am I just
screaming down the window going down Third Avenue.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
Every hour counts here, and we can't really on the
DR to do anything.
Speaker 4 (37:02):
One of the.
Speaker 10 (37:02):
Biggest concerns for me, Nancy, is the idea that this
is not like a broad spectrum approach relative to an investigation.
If they're only focused on this one kid here, this
one guy they that she was last seen with, you're
going to miss other things along the way. I have
a real issue with both of these, both of these
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individuals almost throwing up simultaneously at that bar. I want
to know if there's any other kind of illness that
could be associated there on there, and I want to
know if anybody's been following this.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
J Scott, do you recall the extensive investigation we did
into alcohol poisoning at these all inclusive result resorts that
have ended in the deaths of several Americans. You go
to a bar, you have something to drink. Is bootleg
whiskey put in a US bottle? Okay, it might say
(37:59):
Seagrams or something else on the front, but you're getting
some hooch made of somebody's garage.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
Okay, No, look that's happening.
Speaker 10 (38:08):
Dave and I just covered cases out of Southeast Asia
involved in methanol, and they're a huge group of these
cases that have happened in Turkey as well, Nancy. Where
you're not using ethanol, which is what we consume alcohol wise,
they make bootleg hooch or bathtub gin out of methanol,
which is very, very dangerous stuff. I want to know
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if there's any other instances down in the dr at
this specific resort that have led and it can lead
to things like blindness, nausea, and ultimately death. I want
to know if anybody else was presenting that way that night.
That's what I mean by broad spectrum here. You can't
just narrow your focus down to this one event. We
want to know what else was going on around them
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that night, and again, this could be a PR nightmare
for the dr if there is any kind of problem
with an alcohol down like it was.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
A PR nightmare for Aruba and Natalie went missing, tourism
from the US skyrocketed.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
Okay, so when you don't know a horse, look at
the track.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Record, when you don't know what's gonna happen, look at
what already did happen.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
But I agree with you, Joe Scott. We can't get
total vision on Rebe. Now.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
Yes, I've got a problem with him. Of course I've
got a problem with him. He's the last one with
a girl in All I've got is a flip flop
and a sarong. He's the last one with her, and
his story is all over the map, not necessarily consistent though,
So yes, I'm looking at him, but total vision is
not going to help find her.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
And as a matter of fact, this is what people
that know Rebee have to say. Josh was just so polite.
He was a good teenmate in sports, and he was
part of the boy scout troop.
Speaker 5 (39:53):
Never heard of girl you No, I don't know what happened,
but there's no way he would have intentionally been aren't
in any scheme to do something to her.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
From our friends at GMA, authorities are looking at on
Iowa Man believed to be the.
Speaker 11 (40:09):
Last person to see missing University of Pittsburgh students Tuditcha Kanunki.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
Also under the microscope. Two THENMO payments.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
One we don't know exactly what it is, but Sudiksha
put an emoji of a sailboat beside the VENMO payment,
you know, you can put a little message in there.
And the other one is to replaced Coco Bongo to
Emily Layman joining us from past dot Com, explained to
me about the two venmos and where they fit into
(40:40):
the timeline.
Speaker 5 (40:41):
They've fit in the timeline because those are the last
VENMO transactions that she had, and these are you know,
you think, payments that she would send between friends for
the activities that they were doing when they were on
their spring break trip. But one of them, of course,
you don't really know much about because all it has
(41:01):
is a sailboat emoji, and we don't really know much
information about who that went to. And then the other one,
of course, you know, I went to who was confirmed
to be a friend with her on the trip. But
we don't know who else was at that nightclub.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
The thinking is the sailboat emerging emoji indicates it could
have been an excursion. And like doctor Chloe Carmichael was
telling us earlier, you kind of suspend your reality. You're
functioning under the illusion that you're safe. You meet a
guy and you immediately go for a walk on the
beach and go out in the water with him alone.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
Why why?
Speaker 2 (41:42):
Of course she's young, But it's happened before, and not
just with Natalie Holloway.
Speaker 17 (41:48):
Robin Gardner needed a get away. Gardner had met Gary
Giordano on match dot Com a year before. Friends say
the two weren't super close and had a platonic relationship,
but stating contact via email. When the invitation came, Robin
said yes, and the pair arrived in Aruba July thirty.
Speaker 15 (42:06):
First, I was told that she was lost at sea,
and I just found that very surprising because I know
that she really doesn't swim or get into the water
because she has extensions and her.
Speaker 4 (42:22):
Makeup and got all gold up, and she.
Speaker 15 (42:26):
Just didn't want to ruin that.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
And that was Robin's sister talking to me, and apparently
with Robin Gardner's case, she just washed out to see okay,
although she would never have gotten in the water after
just having.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
Her hair done. And there's more. What about Wesley Bell?
Speaker 8 (42:44):
Ex's native Wesley Bell is in the Bahamas attending a
yoga retreat on Paradise Island in NASA. The Seven Andra
Ashram Yoga Retreat, Bahamas featured in The New York Times
Gwyneth Paltrow's Goop and huff Post as a top travel destination.
Danielle Ward Packard, who was at the retreat at the
same time as Belle, says he walked off by himself
to snorkel one day and never returned. Searches are conducted,
(43:07):
but Belle has never found and Taylor Casey. Taylor Casey
goes missing from the same Behavian retreat. Casey disappears about
halfway through getting a yoga instructor's certification at seven Hundron
Ashron Yoga. Last scene at the Ashram, She's reported missing
after failing to show up for morning classes. Police find
her phone in the water days later, but haven't been
(43:29):
able to access its contents, and she remains missing.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
To Sheriff Mike Chapman, how is it people just walk
out in the water and they're never seen again according
to reports.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
Don't you find that disturbing, Sheriff, of.
Speaker 6 (43:43):
Course, I mean if that was the case in this case,
I mean, you know, you certainly would hope for a recovery,
a quick recovery, but that hasn't happened. So that's why
we can't really jump on of conclusions just jamp but yeah,
it's a shame, but it does happened.
Speaker 4 (44:00):
From time to time.
Speaker 2 (44:01):
Joshua Reebe is home on us soil after much drama,
much fear, much suffering on the part of his family
in Dominican Republic. They flew there to bring their son home. Sadly,
(44:21):
Sudicia Konaki's family may never bring their daughter home. While
we send our prayers to Sudha's family, we are relieved,
along with Reebe's family, that their son is home.
Speaker 1 (44:38):
Goodbye friend.
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