March 17, 2025 • 43 mins
Sudiksha Konanki and five college friends arrived in the Dominican Republic on March 3. They booked rooms at the all-inclusive resort Riu Republica in Punta Cana.
A few days later, Sudiksha and her friends were dancing at a disco when the resort experienced a 25-hour power outage in some areas. Some reports say that’s when the group of six women and two men decided to take a moonlight walk on the beach. Surveillance footage shows Sudiksha Konanki and five women, along with two men, walking toward the beach. About an hour later, the footage shows five women and one man leaving. Konanki apparently stayed behind with Joshua Riibe, a 24-year-old spring breaker from the U.S.
The next morning, Konanki’s friends went on an excursion she had not signed up for, so they did not realize she was missing. When they returned that afternoon, they discovered they had not seen her since the night before.
When they tracked down Riibe, he said he had passed out on the beach and, when he woke up, he was alone. Assuming Konanki had already left, he returned to his hotel room. By then, she had been missing for 12 hours.
Dominican Republic authorities questioned Riibe for hours over the weekend, including intense questioning by Attorney General Yeni Berenice Reynoso and Navy Vice Admiral Agustin Morillo Rodriguez. Authorities have confiscated Riibe’s passport, and he is not free to leave. Reports say police escort him wherever he goes.
Joining Nancy Grace:
- Sheriff Mike Chapman - Loudoun County, Virginia, Hometown Sheriff
- Eric Faddis - Partner at Varner Faddis Elite Legal, Former Felony Prosecutor and Current Criminal Defense and Civil Litigation Attorney; Instagram: @e_fad @varnerfaddis; TikTok: @varnerfaddis
- Dr. Chloe Carmichael - Clinical Psychologist, Author: "Nervous Energy: Harness The Power of Your Anxiety;" X: @DrChloe
- Irv Brandt - Former Senior Inspector, US Marshals Service International Investigations Branch, Chief Inspector, DOJ Office of International Affairs; Country Attache, US Embassy Kingston, Jamaica, and Author: “SOLO SHOT: CURSE OF THE BLUE STONE” [available on Amazon]
- Ben Dobrin - Emergency Response Diving Instructor and Instructor Trainer, Police Diver, and Emergency Services Diver
- Joseph Scott Morgan - Professor of Forensics: Jacksonville State University, Author, "Blood Beneath My Feet," and Host: "Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan;" X: @JoScottForensic
- Emily Leayman - Northern Virginia Local Editor for Patch.com; X: @EmilyLeayman
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, a gorgeous young missing University
Pittsburgh student. Clothes found on a beach chair along with flipflops.
That's all that's left a sarong and some flip flops
at this hour, the FBI joining in the search. I'm
(00:25):
Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank you for being
with us.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Sudikshu Kanunki is a twenty year old biological Sciences in
Chemistry pre med students at the prestigious University of Pittsburgh
on a spring break trip with her girlfriends in Utah, Kano.
But now authorities are frantically searching for the girl after
she disappeared on the beach.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Where is city?
Speaker 1 (00:51):
This beautiful young girl goes down to dr with friends.
They're out having a good time dancing.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
They go from moon light walk on the beach.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
And now all that's left is a sarong and some
flip flops.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Listen.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
The search intensifies after what is believed to be Kanaki's
sarong and flip flops are found on a beach chair.
Local news outlet CDN post images of a white netted
beach cover up and a pair of flip flops similar
to what Sudisha was wearing when she was last seen.
The photos of what could be Kanaki's belongings are seen
sprawled across a sun lounger and in the sand beside
(01:28):
the chair.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Why are they there, how did they get there, When
did they get there, how were they found? Where are
they tampered with? We're being told no, that's the biggest
clue we've got, other than some surveillance video and what
others have to say about the night Sudi just disappears
off the map.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Now, this is what her dad says.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
Everything was going okay and she was really happy to
have a laication with that parents. The next day she
wanted to pover he excussion, and before that in the resort,
she was fine with the swimming pool.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
That's our friends at ABC News.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
This young girl a shining star University of Pittsburgh, her world.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
In front of her.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
We've been told she was studying premed, beautiful and brilliant.
Now all I've got left as a flip flop and
a sarong joining me in All Star panel to makes
sense of what we are learning right now. Straight out
to Emily Layman joining us Northern Virginia Local editor Patch
dot com, Emily, thank you for being with us.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
What happened? What happened that night?
Speaker 6 (02:46):
Tadiksha was on a spring break trip with five female friends.
It was reported that she got there on March third,
and then she was last seen in the early morning
of March sixth. Yes, so they were at the Hotel
Rio Republica, which is a popular spring break bought in
(03:08):
Puntakana and the Dominican Republic. So surveillance footage shows that
she was headed to the beach with a group of friends,
and it was reported that there was a power outage
that prompted some of the hotel guests to go to
the beach in these early morning hours. But then the
surveillance footage shows that only some of that group returned
(03:33):
less than an hour later, and she was.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Not Some of that group does not include her. Take
a look at her, This beautiful young girl missing offspring break.
Dr now joining me special guest, Sheriff Mike Chapman. He
is joining us from Lauden County Sheriff's office. He is
(03:58):
the sheriff. And you may wonder what does Sheriff Mike
Chapman have to do with this that she goes missing
on spring break in the dr Sheriff Chapman, thank you
for being with us, tell me your involvement in her case.
Speaker 7 (04:12):
Well, good to be with you, and yeah, she's a
resident of Loudon County. So we received the missing personal
report from her father on the evening of the sixth,
and immediately we got on that got ahold of the
embassy down there and started getting their involvement because we
want to find out, like everybody else, exactly what happened here.
We still consider her a missing person. We're doing everything
(04:33):
in our power to work with the authorities down there,
with the FBI, with other agencies that are working with
the Dominican Republic to see if we can bring this
thing to a successful conclusion so that she's a resident
of ours. We take every missing person seriously. I've had
an opportunity to meet with the father and you know,
throwing my heart goes out. They're going through just a
(04:56):
try to set of circumstances right now, and we're doing
everything that we can to try to work with them,
with our Victim Assistants unit to kind of help with that,
as well as doing everything we can to assist with
the investigation.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Sheriff Mike Chapman joining me from lowd County Sheriff's. This
young girl is a resident along with her family there
and Sheriff. I can't imagine much worse than your child
going missing, and then your child going missing in another
jurisdiction across the ocean. You know, it seems like it's
(05:31):
a hop skipping a jump from the US, and it
is like, you know, an our flight, but.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
It's a world away.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Their law enforcement is different, the way they process crime scenes,
their interaction with victims, family and sheriff.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
It's conjuring up horrible image.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Of another young girl that goes on spring break and
is never seen again.
Speaker 8 (05:56):
Listen tells me she doesn't want me to feel her up.
I insist I keep feeling her up either way, and
she needs me a sense of needing me in the crotch.
Once she needs me in the crotch, I get up
on the beach and I kick her extremely hard in
(06:19):
the face. Yeah, she's laying down unconscious, possibly even even dead,
but definitely unconscious. And I see right next to her,
a there's a huge cinder block laying on the beach.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Just hearing the voice of your Vanderslout, the judge's son
that murdered Natalie. It gives me a physical response. Now
that is the backdrop in everybody's mind in the search
for this beautiful young University Pittsburgh student.
Speaker 9 (07:03):
You know, Sheriff.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Chapman, that has to be on your mind. If she did,
is she a lot?
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Are we ever going to get an answer because we
never found Natalie's body, Well, of course.
Speaker 7 (07:15):
It is, and everything's a possibility right now. That's why
we send investigators down there to actually get a first
hand account with Joshua Revey, the last person that we
know was with her, to try to get his side
of the story. There were some inconsistencies that surfaced kind
of early on, and we wanted to get the information firsthand.
I think those inconsistencies were minor and they probably had
(07:37):
more to do with the translation from me at least
to Spanish and vice versa. But that's why we sent
people down. We want to make sure we get in
the first hand account of what's going on there, working
with the Dominicans, working with the FBI down there, because
we just want to make sure that we don't leave
any stone unturned and we are concerned obviously, and we
want to do everything we can to help you resolve
(07:59):
this very challenging and difficult situation.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
I got to tell you something, Sheriff Mike Chapman. I
am so heartened and relieved that you have sent your
people down there. I have study cases in the islands,
including in Mexico as well, and it's a whole another system.
It's a whole another variety of law enforcement there, and
(08:27):
knowing that your people are there now the FBI has
joined in, is quite a comfort.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Now.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
You mentioned that the main person of interest as he
is now called, has given several different statements, But after
analyzing the different statements, I'm not sure how different they
really are.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Let's listen.
Speaker 9 (08:50):
In the first version of Reeby's account, he tells police
he and Kanonkey went into the water. He swallowed water
from the rough surf, which made him throw up, so
he went back to shore, but before leaving he asked
Kanaki if she was okay. Reebe says he got to
the shore and threw up and laid down.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Okay, let's just analyze that, okay, joining me as I
said an all star panel back to Sheriff Mike Chapman
that is his as it is called his first statement.
Do you agree that that generally is his first statement?
Speaker 7 (09:22):
That seems to be yes, that would be his first statement,
and that seems to be pretty consistent with what he
said since that time.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Okay, let's take a listen to his so called second statement.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
In Joshua Reebe's second version of events, he claims he
and Sadiksha are in waste deep water where they are
talking and kissing when a roague wave crashes over them
and sweeps them into the current. Reebe claims they try
to call for help when they surface, but there is
no one around. Reebe further claims, as a certified lifeguard,
he grabs Kanaki and holds her under his arm as
(09:53):
he tries to swim back to shore, all the while
trying to get her to breathe as he pulls them
back to the beach, but struggle to catch his breath.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Okay, let's analyze what we're hearing. I don't know if
you have ever found this to be true. Joining me
high profile lawyer Eric Fattus, trial lawyer, TV Legal analysts
founding partner Varner Fattus Elite Legal Eric statements disturbed me
(10:22):
when I find a discrepancy, a conflict now upon questioning,
and they've been questioning this guy for hours and hours
and hours, why obviously they need to question for hours
and hours and hours.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
He's the last one with her.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Everybody else leaves and leaves him, much like in the
Nalie Holloway case, everybody her friends left her, the Calpo
brothers left them alone.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
On the beach, and she's never seen again.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Okay, So with that as a backdrop, his story changed,
your Vanderschlup's story changed dramatically. It was full of conflicts,
full discrepancies. But when you ask questions somebody for hours
and hours and hours and you ask them different questions,
that may elicit embellishment, additional facts you didn't hear the
(11:12):
first time not necessarily a conflict.
Speaker 10 (11:14):
Yeah, Nancy, And looking at both statements, you know the
second statement has significantly more detail. It kind of tells
more of a harrowing story of rescuing her from the sea,
which wasn't entirely present in the first statement. It's my
understanding that being said, like you mentioned, when there are
multiple interviews, it's not uncommon for additional details to come
out as as each subsequent interview is had because there
(11:38):
are new questions that are being asked, their other details
the investigators have that they are prying into, and so
it's not entirely uncommon, and my read on it is
similar to that of the sheriffs.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Hmmm, okay, I want to believe you. I want to
believe the sheriff and.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Impute nothing but good intentions on everyone. But when you
look at the two statements, I mean, it just seems
to me. Let me go straight out to Ben Dobrain
joining me Emergency Medical Service, Marine Dive Team. Ben. It
(12:15):
seems to me that if I had grabbed somebody, which
I have with both.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Of my children, by the way, on separate occasions.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
And pulled them to shore, that I would have mentioned
that the first time. The first time, he says, he
and she went into the water. He swallowed water, which
made him throw up. He went back to shore. He
asked her if she was okay. He got to shore
and threw up and laid down. Second version, he adds
(12:49):
they're kissing and making out in waste deep water. A
rogue wade crashes over them, sweeps them out into the current.
They try to call for help. No one around and
he holds her under his arm and tries to swim
back to shore, trying to get her to breathe. That
(13:10):
is a lot of information, Ben that he actually grabbed
her and pulled her back to safety.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
I didn't hear that the first time.
Speaker 11 (13:18):
Absolutely. And you know, an interesting thing is, yes, he
was a lifeguard, but he was a pool lifeguard. And
I want to point out there's a very clear distinction
between a pool lifeguard and being an ocean lifeguard. There's
very different tests, and the water is very different. Every
report both versions. The water was rough. Rough water is
very different than pool water. The bottom is different. In
(13:39):
the ocean, it's sandy, there's holes, there's dips, whereas in
a pool, you know, it's a pretty solid footing and
it's very predictable where it is. So you could be
walking in the water in the ocean and hit a
hole and be overhead you know, very quickly. But for
a pool trained the lifeguard, you know, to be doing
a rescue in the ocean, there's the waves, and you know,
one report said that he kept her head out of water.
(14:00):
He was trying to keep her head of the water,
but his head cup going underwater. That tells me he
didn't know how to do an ocean rescue, and it's
believable for somebody who's just a pool train lifeguard. And
you know, if he was throwing up water, if you've
ever been, you know, near drowning, and that's what that was.
If he's saying he was throwing up water, that thing
near drowning, he was concerned at that point, you know,
(14:20):
we're dealing with his own issues and not looking after her,
whether he brought her to shore or whether he abandoned her,
like the first one of the early versions that he
abandoned her in waste water thinking she could walk by herself,
back with the later version saying he brought her to
shore before he let her, you know, go. But either way,
you know he's supposed to go throwing her up.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Maybe projecting here, but I had a very serious dive
accident off the coast of Cosimo and nearly drowned and
was throwing up water.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
It was kind of out of my nose, my mouth.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
If you're in that shape, I don't know how you
can look around and see anything that's going on, which
goes to his benefit and to his detriment, because he
says he's throwing up and not paying attention, and he looked.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Around as she was gone.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
On the other hand, he also says this now listen
to the third version.
Speaker 9 (15:15):
Joshua Reebe gives a third version of events where he
heroically gets Sidikha Kanky back to shore, but says he
swallowed a lot of water and could have lost consciousness
several times. Reaching the ground of the beach, he pulls
Kanonki in front of himself and she casually walks together
her belongings in knee deep water. Reebe says he asks
her if she's okay, but doesn't hear an answer due
(15:36):
to vomiting all of the saltwater He's followed. While saving Kananki,
he says he looked around and doesn't see anyone. Assume
she grabbed her belongings and left. Feeling bad and tired,
Reebe says he fell asleep in a beach chair. Where
is missing twenty year old University of Pittsburgh students Sudikha Kananki,
The bio and chemistry student, was last seen on the
(15:57):
beach before mysteriously disappearing. Where is Sudiksha at this hour?
The FBI joining in the.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Search straight out to Sheriff Mike Chapman and joining us
from Loudin County Sheriff he is the shareff there who
assent reps from his office from his force down to
the d R to try to find her. I've got
a question and to your understanding, why is the FBI.
Speaker 7 (16:23):
Involved, Well, they're the contact at the US embassy, probably
the best to lead this investigation from a US standpoint,
But you have to remember that it's the Dominican Republic
is so they it really is their investigation. So the
FBI is assisting, and we're assisting. And one of the
things that you brought up before, Nancy was the fact
that it's a foreign country here, and people have to
(16:45):
understand it may seem like America when you get there,
because you know, a resort like that, people are speaking
English and they're you know, it seems very friendly with
a lot of Americans there. But the fact is it's
a foreign country and there's a lot a lot of
other things that you have to deal with when you're
when you're in a foreign country. So we're assisting in
the FBI, who was actually assisting the Dominican authorities there.
(17:07):
And but again I send my people down because we
wanted to get a first hand account and not here,
you know secondhand information.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
You know, Sheriff, you've got a great record, You're beloved
and looked up to in your jurisdiction. But can we
just get real for a moment. The law enforcement in
the d R. Are you kidding me? You think I'm
going to trust the law enforcement in the d R.
Speaker 6 (17:32):
No, I'm not.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
You know, I started writing a book, Don't Be a Victim.
I got to the DR.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
I practically had to write a whole chapter for Pete's sake.
You think they've got touched DNA? You think they know
how to use a VAT at a crime scene or
complicated blood spatter.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Or anything remotely like what we have developed in the
United States. That's a yes, No, Sheriff. Do you really.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
Believe that their investigation even approaches what we would consider
a world class investigation like you would find in your jurisdiction.
Speaker 7 (18:09):
Well, I'm retired from VA. I served three times overseas,
and you're right, Nancy, you can't You know that there's
a huge difference between what our foreign counterparts can do
and what we can do and the capabilities that we
have in the US. I think the best thing that's
going on here right now is the fact that staying
in the news, it kind of forces them to make
sure that they're on their game because they've got oversight,
(18:31):
they've got they've got everybody looking at it from across
the globe here with regards to the media. You have
the FBI that's looking at what they're doing down there,
you have US that's looking at what they're doing. So
the fact is that I think all that helps hold
them more accountable, and it gives us the opportunity to
share some of the capabilities that we have with them.
(18:51):
And I know, you know, like the FBI, for example,
I believe send a dive team down So there's a lot,
there's a lot that we can offer there. And and
again it's poor country, so we were trying to kind
of help with them, help guide them through it a
little bit and make sure they're not missing anything.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Okay, Sheriff Mike Chapman, You're you're being overly kind in
your analysis, in my opinion, because every foreign investigation into
a US citizen going missing.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Has gone sideways.
Speaker 11 (19:24):
Listen, when you say cinder block, I'm looking at the
walls this place isn't like those.
Speaker 8 (19:30):
Exact same cinder blocks. I see a huge cinder block
laying on the on the beach. I take this and
I smash her head in with it. Completely. Her face basically,
you know, collapses in. Even though it's dark, I can
(19:51):
see her faces collapsed in afterwards. I don't exactly know
what you know. I'm I'm scared. I don't know what
to do.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Joining me, a longtime colleague and friend, Professor Forensis Jacksonville
State University, author of Blood Beneath My Feet on Amazon,
star of a hit series of body Bags with Joseph Morgan.
Joe Scott, you were with me in the courtroom there
at the Hugo Black Federal Building with Beth Holloway. You
(20:41):
just heard the double killer yourn Vandersloot describing how he
murdered Natalie Holloway in Aruba, and you recall, Joe Scott,
that Beth.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
And I went back to Aruba.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
To try on our own to stir up find more clues,
more anything to help find Natalie. Your vander Slute was
in court fourteen years later, and we still don't really
know what happened.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
To now. The only thing I know is one thing
that he sex attacked her and he murdered her. So
all this about we're helping Dominican Republic.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
We better go there and take over the investigation and
let them help us.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
You really think, Joe.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Scott Morgan, that they have adequately handled the investigation into
where is Tadiitsha?
Speaker 3 (21:47):
No, they haven't, and we lost critical time, critical time,
Joe Scott.
Speaker 12 (21:53):
Yeah. Pressure pressure, pressure is what has to constantly be
applied in here, and you cannot take the spotlight off
of this case. We've seen how these cases have gone
over the years, and certainly Natalie's case is a benchmark
in time relative to what can happen as memories begin
to erode, and we don't want that to happen in
(22:14):
this particular case. In the DR we have to continue
to press and I would suggest as well, the party
that she was with, and I'm talking about this fellow
that she was last seen with, I'm talking about all
of her friends that were there. They need to be
sequestered and they need to be pressed about all of
the activities that they engaged in that evening relative to
(22:38):
any kind of consumption of alcohol. Her behavior prior to
interacting with this young man, and then perhaps if they
observed her interacting with him on any level, whether it
be violent, whether it be romantic as he has implied,
if you will. And you know, my biggest thing here
is were there any agents that were applied to her
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relative to things that she had consumed? Remember, one of
the things that happened in the Holloway case was that
we had suspected for some period of time that there
may have been some kind of anebriant that was applied
to her in her drinks at that particular time. I'm
thinking about things like GHB, date rape drugs, those sorts
(23:21):
of things. So word of warning here that needs to
be because listen, don't we don't have her to do
a talks draw on, okay, so we can't tell you
what's going on with her talks Coologically, all we have
to rely upon are those people that were there as
witnesses to what had happened prior to her going missing
(23:44):
that night. That's going to be Key Nay.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
A spring break trip takes a turn.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
For the worst when twenty year old University of Pittsburgh
student Suditcha Kannkey vanishes after a night out.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
We're friends.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
See that video one more time. I want to make
sure you see what I'm seeing. This is from our
friend at know to see us, our friends that know
to see us. Now she's on the left. Look there,
she goes, throwing up. That's Sadiksha on the left. A
friend is there, see right there? Okay, and they're talking
to each other. But if you look on the right,
we believe that is him. See him, we think on
(24:22):
the right throwing up out by trash can Now is
that everyone else's understanding or is that what we're seeing.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Let's just start it over one more time.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Which leads me to Joe Scott Morgan's question, what did
they ingest that's making them throw up?
Speaker 3 (24:42):
Okay, take a listen to this.
Speaker 9 (24:45):
Sadiksha Kinanki and five college friends arrive in the Dominican
Republic on March third. They've booked rooms at the all
inclusive resort Rio Republica in Puntakana. A couple of days later,
Sadeksha and her friends are dancing in a disco when
the resort experiences a twenty five hour power outage in
some areas. The group of six women and two men
decide to go for a moonlight walk on the beach.
Surveillance videos document Sidiksha Kananki in five women along with
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two men, walking toward the beach. About an hour later,
surveillance footage shows five women and one man leaving the beach.
Kananki apparently stays behind on the beach with Joshua Reeve,
a twenty four year old spring breaker from the US.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Okay, guys, you are seeing more from our friends at
SI N. Take a look at this. Now we are
seeing the two of them walking. Okay, Now I understand
that this is after There they are, Yes, there they are,
and that is consistent with what he was wearing when
he was vomiting. Remember in that video you see the
(25:41):
white sneakers, the white sox, the shorts, and the backpack.
That's why we believe that was him vomiting at a
trash can outside.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
Now you've got another view.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
This is for our friends at SIN surveillance video catching
there you see the group, they're all walking to the.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
Beach, arm in arm there you go. Now what happened
after that?
Speaker 1 (26:07):
To doctor Chloe Carmichael, joining US clinical psychologist and author
of Nervous Energy Harness the pair of your anxiety, and
you can find her on Twitter at doctor Chloe Doctor Chloe.
As Sheriff Mike Chapman was saying earlier, it feels like
the US, and that gives you the suggestion of safety,
(26:31):
that you understand what's around you, that you understand what's happening. Typically,
you go into a bar and you're dancing and have
a good time with your friends. In the US, it's
unlikely it happens, but it's unlikely you're going to get
drug to start throwing up. It's unlikely you're going to
be separated from your friends. It can happen, but you're functioning.
(26:53):
Maybe it's because you're on vacation. I'm not sure what
it is. Your defenses are down and you're functioning in
a bubble.
Speaker 13 (27:02):
Explain that, Yeah, Nancy, I agree, there's something really strange.
You know, even for spring break, it's definitely noteworthy that
they're sitting there at a bar with their friends, everyone's
dressed up, looking nice, and then they're literally sitting there puking,
but they don't even seem bothered by it. It really
does point to a serious possibility of you know, maybe
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taking ecstasy or drugs where you kind of expect to
throw up before you then start to feel good. And
it makes me wonder. Since that young man pictured obviously
appears to be a wrestler, I wonder if he's on
a wrestling scholarship. I wonder if that's holding him back
from coming forward and saying, yeah, I was taking illegal
drugs and there was you know, I didn't intend to
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hurt her, but you know, something went wrong with the drugs,
and maybe he's concerned about losing his scholarship. I'm not
sure because she doesn't fit the profile of a serial
risk seeker, right. You know, she's very organized, she's in
a pre med program. She's only there on a vacation,
so something about it definitely seems strange. I would also
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be curious since he says that he went and fell
asleep in a chair. That doesn't sound like somebody who's
guilty and trying to evade the scene of a crime.
We have a lot of video of him before the incident.
I'm curious about the first time that he appears on
video after the disappearance.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
I agree with you, now, this is what he says happens.
Speaker 9 (28:29):
Listen after the night on the beach Kanaki's friends go
on an excursion that Kanaki had not signed up for,
so they don't miss her. As they head out at
eight fifty five am, Joshua Reebe returns to his hotel
room alone, without his shoes or his shirt. It's only
after Sidekha's friends return that afternoon they realized they don't
know where Sidekha is. Tracking down Joshua Reebe, he says
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he passed out on the beach and when he awoke,
he was alone and went to his hotel room, assuming
Kanaki had already done the same. But it's been twelve
hours since she was last seen.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Now I want to look at the video again. But
to Eric Fattus, what about a cell phone?
Speaker 10 (29:05):
The cell phone is always a critical piece of evidence
in a case like this. It needs to be looked
into a little more further. I think when you look
at that video that we just saw of the two
walking near the hotel at night, really has what appears
to be a cell phone in his hands, sort of
documenting what's going on, common sense would tell us that
that could be his cell phone. But later in some
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reports I've read, he tells police that after he's at
the beach, he goes back to his own room to
get his cell phone. So when did he drop it off?
Is there some sort of evidence of that, did someone
go with him? Is there a witness statement to corroborate that.
What is going on with the cell phone? And what
might it show about what happened?
Speaker 1 (29:44):
We're learning, good point, Eric Fattus, we're learning more about
the timeline now the vomiting, the vomiting video.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Yeah, there it is.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
There's what we believe is his cell phone, you're right, Eric,
And it looks like he's videoing a selfie video.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
You're right? Is that his? Or is that hers? And
has her cell phone been found?
Speaker 1 (30:08):
The vomiting incident is around four five am?
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Okay, now listen to this.
Speaker 14 (30:18):
CCTV helps shot a timeline for Joshua Rebeat starting around
four am, when he is seen with his arm draped
around Sudeiksha Kanonkey as they are headed to the beach
at the resort. Joshua Rebe is spotted on CCTV walking
back alone from the beach at eight fifty five am.
Suditsha is not seen on CCTV returning from the beach.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
So we've got four to five they're throwing up and
walking toward the beach. And now look at this shot.
This is the shot we're talking about eight fifty five
between four five am and eight fifty five am, this happens, Okay,
Sheriff Mike Chapman.
Speaker 7 (30:59):
Way in, Well, I can tell you you know, we're
we are looking at the phones. We have the numbers.
There's there is work that's being done on that. I
can't really go into the detail on that. We do
have some extensive investigation that's being done on that, and
that's going to take a little a little bit of
time to get that information back. But it's not it's
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not anything that's been an oversight on the investigator's part. Again,
working with the FBI, work come with our counterparts and
trying to do the best we can to get as
much information as we can with regards to the phones.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Will you say, as much information as you can regarding
the phone, Sheriff Chapman. Have they found both of their phones?
Speaker 7 (31:39):
Again, I can't really get into that. What I can
tell you is that we do have the numbers of
I believe everybody who is down there involved, and there
is there is some technical work that's being done on that.
But again that's you know, it's it's part of the
ongoing investigation, and really we can't really discuss a whole
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lot more.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
After careful analysis, there's not that much difference in what
he's saying in his multiple versions. Also, according to a
Kanukie family friend, he was very helpful.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
Listen to what they told our friends at ABC.
Speaker 5 (32:18):
We walked to the beach along with the boy, and
the boy helped us, and he was annoying us kind
of like what really happened and.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
Where he was our friends at ABC.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
The investigation intensifies for missing twenty year old Pittsburgh student
Sudiksha Kanukey last.
Speaker 14 (32:41):
Seen him on the beach well on a spring.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
Break trip with friends. Where is Sudiksha? How is it?
Speaker 1 (32:50):
She goes out to the beach, she is kissing a
guy and about waste deep water, and suddenly she's washed
out to see rebe the well. It's the so called
person of interest. But now we're learning that dr is
backtracking saying he's not really a person of interest, he's
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a witness. Now I find that really interesting that they're
holding him there. He can't believe they've got his passport yet.
He's just a witness. Let me ask you about that,
Earv Brant. Now I am transposing the US justice system
onto the dr which was anything but true. But you
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have to be a POI or a suspect or be
named a material witness by a court before you can
have your passport taken, seized and forced to stay there.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
At least that's a law in the US.
Speaker 15 (33:50):
What's happening, Well, it's exactly what you said, Nancy. We
view these things as we would view them in the US,
which once you leave the US, it's completely different. Their country,
their rules.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
And not in a good way or not in a
good way.
Speaker 15 (34:09):
No, I no, I agree in most cases, Nancy, I
worked extensively outside of the country, and it's very frustrating.
But each country has their own way of doing things.
And if they take his passport, then they take his
passport and he can leave until they tell him he
can leave.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
I've never accused you of putting perfume on the pig,
but I guess I'll have to do it for the
first time right now. Or every country has their own
way of doing things, you mean, their own way of
botching up an investigation.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
Wouldn't that be a little more accurate, just like Innaruba.
Speaker 15 (34:44):
Yes, that would be more accurate, Nancy, I'm being far
too nice.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Yeah, And I don't know why.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
Because every hour counts if she is still alive, and
there is that possibility anything could have happened to.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
Her, our counts and while we.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Are tiptoeing around the fact that the d are screwing
this up, that's one more hour.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
Lost Earth, one more hour.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
Thank Heaven, Chapman, send his people down in the FBI
are involved.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
I mean, Joe Scott helped me out. Am I just
screaming down the window going down Third Avenue.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
Every hour counts here, and we can't rely on the
DR to do anything.
Speaker 12 (35:26):
One of the biggest concerns for me, Nancy, is the
idea that this is not like a broad spectrum approach
relative to an investigation. If they're only focused on this
one kid here, this one guy they that she was
last seen with, you're going to miss other things along
the way. I have a real issue with both of these,
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both of these individuals almost throwing up simultaneously.
Speaker 11 (35:51):
At that bar.
Speaker 12 (35:52):
I want to know if there's any other kind of
illness that could be associated there on there, and I
want to know if anybody's been following this.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Scott, do you recall the extensive investigation we did into
alcohol poisoning at these all inclusive result resorts that have
ended in the deaths of several Americans. You go to
a bar, you have something to drink. Is bootleg whiskey
put in a US model? Okay, it might say seagrums
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or something else on the front, but you're getting some
hooch made in somebody's garage.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
Okay, that's happening.
Speaker 12 (36:32):
Dave and I just covered cases out of Southeast Asia
involved in methanol and they are a huge group of
these cases that have happened in Turkey as well, Nancy,
where you're not using ethanol, which is what we consume
alcohol was, they make bootleg hoots or bathtub gin out
of methanol, which is very, very dangerous stuff. I want
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to know if there's any other instances down in the
dr at this specific resort that have led and it
can lead to things like blindness, nausea, and ultimately death.
I want to know if anybody else was presenting that
way that night. That's what I mean by broad spectrum here.
You can't just narrow your focus down to this one event.
We want to know what else was going on around
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them that night. And again, this could be a PR
nightmare for the dr if there is any kind of
problem with an alcohol down all right, Like it was.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
A PR nightmare for Aruba when Natalie went missing, Tourism
from the US skyrocketed. Okay, So when you don't know
a horse, look at the track record. When you don't
know what's gonna happen, look at what already did happen.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
But I agree with you, Joe Scott. We can't get
total vision on Rebet. Now. Yes, I've got a problem
with him. Of course I've got a problem with him.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
He's the last one with a girl in all I've
got is a flip flop and a sarong.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
He's the last one with her.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
And his story is all over the map, not necessarily
consistent though, So yes, looking at him, but total vision
is not going to help find her. And as a
matter of fact, this is what people that know Rebee
have to say.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
Josh was just so polite.
Speaker 6 (38:12):
He was a good teammate in sports, and he was
part of the boy scout troop.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
Never heard a girl.
Speaker 10 (38:19):
You know, I don't know what happened, but there's no
way he would have intentionally been any part of any
scheme to do something to her.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
From our friends at GMA.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
Authorities are looking at on Iowa Man, believed to be
the last person to see missing University of Pittsburgh students
Sudiksha Kanunki.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
Also under the microscope. Two then MO payments.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
One we don't know exactly what it is, but Sudiksha
put an emoji of a sailboat beside the venmo payment.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
You know, you can put a little.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
Message in there, And the other one is to replaced
Coco Bongo. To Emily Layman, joining from past dot Com,
explain to me about the two venmos and where they
fit into the timeline.
Speaker 6 (39:05):
They fit in the timeline because those are the last
Venmo transactions that she had, and these are you know,
you think, payments that she would send between friends for
the activities that they were doing when they were on
their spring break trip. But one of them, of course,
you don't really know much about because all it has
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is a sailboat emoji and we don't really know much
information about who that went to. And then the other one,
of course, you know, I went to who was confirmed
to be a friend with her on the trip, but
we don't know who else was at that nightclub.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
The thinking is the sailboat emerging emoji indicates it could
have been an excursion. And like doctor Chloe Carmichael was
telling us earlier, you kind of suspend your reality. You're
functioning under the illusion that you're safe. You made it guy,
and you immediately go for a walk on the beach
and go out in the water with him alone.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
Why why?
Speaker 1 (40:06):
Of course she's young, but it's happened before, and not
just with Natalie Holloway.
Speaker 16 (40:12):
Robin Gardner needed a get away. Gardner it had met
Gary Giordano on match dot com a year before. Friends
say the two weren't super close and had a platonic relationship,
but stayed in contact via email. When the invitation came,
Robin said yes, and the pair arrived in a Ruba
July thirty.
Speaker 14 (40:30):
First.
Speaker 17 (40:31):
I was told that she was lost at sea, and
I just found that very surprising because I know that
she really doesn't swim or get into the water because
she has extensions and.
Speaker 11 (40:46):
Her makeup and got all called up and she.
Speaker 17 (40:50):
Just didn't want to ruin that.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
And that was Robin's sister talking to me and apparently
with Robin Gardner's case, she just washed out to see okay,
although she would never have gotten in the water after
just having.
Speaker 3 (41:05):
Her hair done. And there's more. What about Wesley Bell?
Speaker 9 (41:08):
TeX's native Wesley Bell is in the Bahamas, tending a
yoga retreat on Paradise Island in Nassau. The Seven Andra
Ashram Yoga Retreat, Bahamas featured in The New York Times,
Gwyneth Paltrow's Goop and huff Post as a top travel destination.
Danielle Ward Packard, who was at the retreat at the
same time as Belle, says he walked off by himself
to snorkel one day and never returned. Searches are conducted,
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but Belle is never found, and Taylor Casey Taylor Casey
goes missing from the same Behavian retreat. Casey disappears about
halfway through getting a yoga instructor's certification as seven Andro
on Ashram Yoga. Last scene at the Ashram, she's reported
missing after failing to show up for morning classes. Police
find her phone in the water days later, but haven't
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been able to access its contents, and she remains missing.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
To Sheriff Mike Chapman, how is it people just walk
out in the water and they're never seen again according
to reports.
Speaker 3 (42:04):
Don't you find that disturbing, Sheriff?
Speaker 7 (42:07):
Of course. I mean if if that was the case
in this case, I mean, you know, you certainly would
hope for a recovery, a quick recovery. But that hasn't happened.
So that's why we can't really jump on a conclusion
ship jamply. Yeah, it's a shame, but it does happen
from time to time.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
I wish I had better answers tonight, Sheriff. Usually the
facts are more clearly defined, but this is just too
murky to make a call. But what we do know
is this young girl pre med Suditsha is gone. Tip
line Local number seven zero three seven seven seven one
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zero two one repeat. This is Sheriff Mike Chapman's number
seven zero three seven seven seven one zero two one.
Speaker 3 (43:01):
Nancy Grace signing off, goodbye friend,
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, a gorgeous young missing University
Pittsburgh student. Clothes found on a beach chair along with flipflops.
That's all that's left a sarong and some flip flops
at this hour, the FBI joining in the search. I'm
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Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank you for being
with us.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Sudikshu Kanunki is a twenty year old biological Sciences in
Chemistry pre med students at the prestigious University of Pittsburgh
on a spring break trip with her girlfriends in Utah, Kano.
But now authorities are frantically searching for the girl after
she disappeared on the beach.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Where is city?
Speaker 1 (00:51):
This beautiful young girl goes down to dr with friends.
They're out having a good time dancing.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
They go from moon light walk on the beach.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
And now all that's left is a sarong and some
flip flops.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Listen.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
The search intensifies after what is believed to be Kanaki's
sarong and flip flops are found on a beach chair.
Local news outlet CDN post images of a white netted
beach cover up and a pair of flip flops similar
to what Sudisha was wearing when she was last seen.
The photos of what could be Kanaki's belongings are seen
sprawled across a sun lounger and in the sand beside
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the chair.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Why are they there, how did they get there, When
did they get there, how were they found? Where are
they tampered with? We're being told no, that's the biggest
clue we've got, other than some surveillance video and what
others have to say about the night Sudi just disappears
off the map.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Now, this is what her dad says.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
Everything was going okay and she was really happy to
have a laication with that parents. The next day she
wanted to pover he excussion, and before that in the resort,
she was fine with the swimming pool.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
That's our friends at ABC News.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
This young girl a shining star University of Pittsburgh, her world.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
In front of her.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
We've been told she was studying premed, beautiful and brilliant.
Now all I've got left as a flip flop and
a sarong joining me in All Star panel to makes
sense of what we are learning right now. Straight out
to Emily Layman joining us Northern Virginia Local editor Patch
dot com, Emily, thank you for being with us.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
What happened? What happened that night?
Speaker 6 (02:46):
Tadiksha was on a spring break trip with five female friends.
It was reported that she got there on March third,
and then she was last seen in the early morning
of March sixth. Yes, so they were at the Hotel
Rio Republica, which is a popular spring break bought in
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Puntakana and the Dominican Republic. So surveillance footage shows that
she was headed to the beach with a group of friends,
and it was reported that there was a power outage
that prompted some of the hotel guests to go to
the beach in these early morning hours. But then the
surveillance footage shows that only some of that group returned
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less than an hour later, and she was.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Not Some of that group does not include her. Take
a look at her, This beautiful young girl missing offspring break.
Dr now joining me special guest, Sheriff Mike Chapman. He
is joining us from Lauden County Sheriff's office. He is
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the sheriff. And you may wonder what does Sheriff Mike
Chapman have to do with this that she goes missing
on spring break in the dr Sheriff Chapman, thank you
for being with us, tell me your involvement in her case.
Speaker 7 (04:12):
Well, good to be with you, and yeah, she's a
resident of Loudon County. So we received the missing personal
report from her father on the evening of the sixth,
and immediately we got on that got ahold of the
embassy down there and started getting their involvement because we
want to find out, like everybody else, exactly what happened here.
We still consider her a missing person. We're doing everything
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in our power to work with the authorities down there,
with the FBI, with other agencies that are working with
the Dominican Republic to see if we can bring this
thing to a successful conclusion so that she's a resident
of ours. We take every missing person seriously. I've had
an opportunity to meet with the father and you know,
throwing my heart goes out. They're going through just a
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try to set of circumstances right now, and we're doing
everything that we can to try to work with them,
with our Victim Assistants unit to kind of help with that,
as well as doing everything we can to assist with
the investigation.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Sheriff Mike Chapman joining me from lowd County Sheriff's. This
young girl is a resident along with her family there
and Sheriff. I can't imagine much worse than your child
going missing, and then your child going missing in another
jurisdiction across the ocean. You know, it seems like it's
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a hop skipping a jump from the US, and it
is like, you know, an our flight, but.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
It's a world away.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Their law enforcement is different, the way they process crime scenes,
their interaction with victims, family and sheriff.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
It's conjuring up horrible image.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Of another young girl that goes on spring break and
is never seen again.
Speaker 8 (05:56):
Listen tells me she doesn't want me to feel her up.
I insist I keep feeling her up either way, and
she needs me a sense of needing me in the crotch.
Once she needs me in the crotch, I get up
on the beach and I kick her extremely hard in
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the face. Yeah, she's laying down unconscious, possibly even even dead,
but definitely unconscious. And I see right next to her,
a there's a huge cinder block laying on the beach.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Just hearing the voice of your Vanderslout, the judge's son
that murdered Natalie. It gives me a physical response. Now
that is the backdrop in everybody's mind in the search
for this beautiful young University Pittsburgh student.
Speaker 9 (07:03):
You know, Sheriff.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Chapman, that has to be on your mind. If she did,
is she a lot?
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Are we ever going to get an answer because we
never found Natalie's body, Well, of course.
Speaker 7 (07:15):
It is, and everything's a possibility right now. That's why
we send investigators down there to actually get a first
hand account with Joshua Revey, the last person that we
know was with her, to try to get his side
of the story. There were some inconsistencies that surfaced kind
of early on, and we wanted to get the information firsthand.
I think those inconsistencies were minor and they probably had
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more to do with the translation from me at least
to Spanish and vice versa. But that's why we sent
people down. We want to make sure we get in
the first hand account of what's going on there, working
with the Dominicans, working with the FBI down there, because
we just want to make sure that we don't leave
any stone unturned and we are concerned obviously, and we
want to do everything we can to help you resolve
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this very challenging and difficult situation.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
I got to tell you something, Sheriff Mike Chapman. I
am so heartened and relieved that you have sent your
people down there. I have study cases in the islands,
including in Mexico as well, and it's a whole another system.
It's a whole another variety of law enforcement there, and
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knowing that your people are there now the FBI has
joined in, is quite a comfort.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Now.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
You mentioned that the main person of interest as he
is now called, has given several different statements, But after
analyzing the different statements, I'm not sure how different they
really are.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Let's listen.
Speaker 9 (08:50):
In the first version of Reeby's account, he tells police
he and Kanonkey went into the water. He swallowed water
from the rough surf, which made him throw up, so
he went back to shore, but before leaving he asked
Kanaki if she was okay. Reebe says he got to
the shore and threw up and laid down.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Okay, let's just analyze that, okay, joining me as I
said an all star panel back to Sheriff Mike Chapman
that is his as it is called his first statement.
Do you agree that that generally is his first statement?
Speaker 7 (09:22):
That seems to be yes, that would be his first statement,
and that seems to be pretty consistent with what he
said since that time.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Okay, let's take a listen to his so called second statement.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
In Joshua Reebe's second version of events, he claims he
and Sadiksha are in waste deep water where they are
talking and kissing when a roague wave crashes over them
and sweeps them into the current. Reebe claims they try
to call for help when they surface, but there is
no one around. Reebe further claims, as a certified lifeguard,
he grabs Kanaki and holds her under his arm as
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he tries to swim back to shore, all the while
trying to get her to breathe as he pulls them
back to the beach, but struggle to catch his breath.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Okay, let's analyze what we're hearing. I don't know if
you have ever found this to be true. Joining me
high profile lawyer Eric Fattus, trial lawyer, TV Legal analysts
founding partner Varner Fattus Elite Legal Eric statements disturbed me
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when I find a discrepancy, a conflict now upon questioning,
and they've been questioning this guy for hours and hours
and hours, why obviously they need to question for hours
and hours and hours.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
He's the last one with her.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Everybody else leaves and leaves him, much like in the
Nalie Holloway case, everybody her friends left her, the Calpo
brothers left them alone.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
On the beach, and she's never seen again.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Okay, So with that as a backdrop, his story changed,
your Vanderschlup's story changed dramatically. It was full of conflicts,
full discrepancies. But when you ask questions somebody for hours
and hours and hours and you ask them different questions,
that may elicit embellishment, additional facts you didn't hear the
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first time not necessarily a conflict.
Speaker 10 (11:14):
Yeah, Nancy, And looking at both statements, you know the
second statement has significantly more detail. It kind of tells
more of a harrowing story of rescuing her from the sea,
which wasn't entirely present in the first statement. It's my
understanding that being said, like you mentioned, when there are
multiple interviews, it's not uncommon for additional details to come
out as as each subsequent interview is had because there
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are new questions that are being asked, their other details
the investigators have that they are prying into, and so
it's not entirely uncommon, and my read on it is
similar to that of the sheriffs.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Hmmm, okay, I want to believe you. I want to
believe the sheriff and.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Impute nothing but good intentions on everyone. But when you
look at the two statements, I mean, it just seems
to me. Let me go straight out to Ben Dobrain
joining me Emergency Medical Service, Marine Dive Team. Ben. It
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seems to me that if I had grabbed somebody, which
I have with both.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Of my children, by the way, on separate occasions.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
And pulled them to shore, that I would have mentioned
that the first time. The first time, he says, he
and she went into the water. He swallowed water, which
made him throw up. He went back to shore. He
asked her if she was okay. He got to shore
and threw up and laid down. Second version, he adds
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they're kissing and making out in waste deep water. A
rogue wade crashes over them, sweeps them out into the current.
They try to call for help. No one around and
he holds her under his arm and tries to swim
back to shore, trying to get her to breathe. That
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is a lot of information, Ben that he actually grabbed
her and pulled her back to safety.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
I didn't hear that the first time.
Speaker 11 (13:18):
Absolutely. And you know, an interesting thing is, yes, he
was a lifeguard, but he was a pool lifeguard. And
I want to point out there's a very clear distinction
between a pool lifeguard and being an ocean lifeguard. There's
very different tests, and the water is very different. Every
report both versions. The water was rough. Rough water is
very different than pool water. The bottom is different. In
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the ocean, it's sandy, there's holes, there's dips, whereas in
a pool, you know, it's a pretty solid footing and
it's very predictable where it is. So you could be
walking in the water in the ocean and hit a
hole and be overhead you know, very quickly. But for
a pool trained the lifeguard, you know, to be doing
a rescue in the ocean, there's the waves, and you know,
one report said that he kept her head out of water.
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He was trying to keep her head of the water,
but his head cup going underwater. That tells me he
didn't know how to do an ocean rescue, and it's
believable for somebody who's just a pool train lifeguard. And
you know, if he was throwing up water, if you've
ever been, you know, near drowning, and that's what that was.
If he's saying he was throwing up water, that thing
near drowning, he was concerned at that point, you know,
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we're dealing with his own issues and not looking after her,
whether he brought her to shore or whether he abandoned her,
like the first one of the early versions that he
abandoned her in waste water thinking she could walk by herself,
back with the later version saying he brought her to
shore before he let her, you know, go. But either way,
you know he's supposed to go throwing her up.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Maybe projecting here, but I had a very serious dive
accident off the coast of Cosimo and nearly drowned and
was throwing up water.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
It was kind of out of my nose, my mouth.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
If you're in that shape, I don't know how you
can look around and see anything that's going on, which
goes to his benefit and to his detriment, because he
says he's throwing up and not paying attention, and he looked.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Around as she was gone.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
On the other hand, he also says this now listen
to the third version.
Speaker 9 (15:15):
Joshua Reebe gives a third version of events where he
heroically gets Sidikha Kanky back to shore, but says he
swallowed a lot of water and could have lost consciousness
several times. Reaching the ground of the beach, he pulls
Kanonki in front of himself and she casually walks together
her belongings in knee deep water. Reebe says he asks
her if she's okay, but doesn't hear an answer due
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to vomiting all of the saltwater He's followed. While saving Kananki,
he says he looked around and doesn't see anyone. Assume
she grabbed her belongings and left. Feeling bad and tired,
Reebe says he fell asleep in a beach chair. Where
is missing twenty year old University of Pittsburgh students Sudikha Kananki,
The bio and chemistry student, was last seen on the
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beach before mysteriously disappearing. Where is Sudiksha at this hour?
The FBI joining in the.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Search straight out to Sheriff Mike Chapman and joining us
from Loudin County Sheriff he is the shareff there who
assent reps from his office from his force down to
the d R to try to find her. I've got
a question and to your understanding, why is the FBI.
Speaker 7 (16:23):
Involved, Well, they're the contact at the US embassy, probably
the best to lead this investigation from a US standpoint,
But you have to remember that it's the Dominican Republic
is so they it really is their investigation. So the
FBI is assisting, and we're assisting. And one of the
things that you brought up before, Nancy was the fact
that it's a foreign country here, and people have to
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understand it may seem like America when you get there,
because you know, a resort like that, people are speaking
English and they're you know, it seems very friendly with
a lot of Americans there. But the fact is it's
a foreign country and there's a lot a lot of
other things that you have to deal with when you're
when you're in a foreign country. So we're assisting in
the FBI, who was actually assisting the Dominican authorities there.
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And but again I send my people down because we
wanted to get a first hand account and not here,
you know secondhand information.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
You know, Sheriff, you've got a great record, You're beloved
and looked up to in your jurisdiction. But can we
just get real for a moment. The law enforcement in
the d R. Are you kidding me? You think I'm
going to trust the law enforcement in the d R.
Speaker 6 (17:32):
No, I'm not.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
You know, I started writing a book, Don't Be a Victim.
I got to the DR.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
I practically had to write a whole chapter for Pete's sake.
You think they've got touched DNA? You think they know
how to use a VAT at a crime scene or
complicated blood spatter.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Or anything remotely like what we have developed in the
United States. That's a yes, No, Sheriff. Do you really.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
Believe that their investigation even approaches what we would consider
a world class investigation like you would find in your jurisdiction.
Speaker 7 (18:09):
Well, I'm retired from VA. I served three times overseas,
and you're right, Nancy, you can't You know that there's
a huge difference between what our foreign counterparts can do
and what we can do and the capabilities that we
have in the US. I think the best thing that's
going on here right now is the fact that staying
in the news, it kind of forces them to make
sure that they're on their game because they've got oversight,
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they've got they've got everybody looking at it from across
the globe here with regards to the media. You have
the FBI that's looking at what they're doing down there,
you have US that's looking at what they're doing. So
the fact is that I think all that helps hold
them more accountable, and it gives us the opportunity to
share some of the capabilities that we have with them.
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And I know, you know, like the FBI, for example,
I believe send a dive team down So there's a lot,
there's a lot that we can offer there. And and
again it's poor country, so we were trying to kind
of help with them, help guide them through it a
little bit and make sure they're not missing anything.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Okay, Sheriff Mike Chapman, You're you're being overly kind in
your analysis, in my opinion, because every foreign investigation into
a US citizen going missing.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Has gone sideways.
Speaker 11 (19:24):
Listen, when you say cinder block, I'm looking at the
walls this place isn't like those.
Speaker 8 (19:30):
Exact same cinder blocks. I see a huge cinder block
laying on the on the beach. I take this and
I smash her head in with it. Completely. Her face basically,
you know, collapses in. Even though it's dark, I can
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see her faces collapsed in afterwards. I don't exactly know
what you know. I'm I'm scared. I don't know what
to do.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Joining me, a longtime colleague and friend, Professor Forensis Jacksonville
State University, author of Blood Beneath My Feet on Amazon,
star of a hit series of body Bags with Joseph Morgan.
Joe Scott, you were with me in the courtroom there
at the Hugo Black Federal Building with Beth Holloway. You
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just heard the double killer yourn Vandersloot describing how he
murdered Natalie Holloway in Aruba, and you recall, Joe Scott,
that Beth.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
And I went back to Aruba.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
To try on our own to stir up find more clues,
more anything to help find Natalie. Your vander Slute was
in court fourteen years later, and we still don't really
know what happened.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
To now. The only thing I know is one thing
that he sex attacked her and he murdered her. So
all this about we're helping Dominican Republic.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
We better go there and take over the investigation and
let them help us.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
You really think, Joe.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Scott Morgan, that they have adequately handled the investigation into
where is Tadiitsha?
Speaker 3 (21:47):
No, they haven't, and we lost critical time, critical time,
Joe Scott.
Speaker 12 (21:53):
Yeah. Pressure pressure, pressure is what has to constantly be
applied in here, and you cannot take the spotlight off
of this case. We've seen how these cases have gone
over the years, and certainly Natalie's case is a benchmark
in time relative to what can happen as memories begin
to erode, and we don't want that to happen in
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this particular case. In the DR we have to continue
to press and I would suggest as well, the party
that she was with, and I'm talking about this fellow
that she was last seen with, I'm talking about all
of her friends that were there. They need to be
sequestered and they need to be pressed about all of
the activities that they engaged in that evening relative to
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any kind of consumption of alcohol. Her behavior prior to
interacting with this young man, and then perhaps if they
observed her interacting with him on any level, whether it
be violent, whether it be romantic as he has implied,
if you will. And you know, my biggest thing here
is were there any agents that were applied to her
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relative to things that she had consumed? Remember, one of
the things that happened in the Holloway case was that
we had suspected for some period of time that there
may have been some kind of anebriant that was applied
to her in her drinks at that particular time. I'm
thinking about things like GHB, date rape drugs, those sorts
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of things. So word of warning here that needs to
be because listen, don't we don't have her to do
a talks draw on, okay, so we can't tell you
what's going on with her talks Coologically, all we have
to rely upon are those people that were there as
witnesses to what had happened prior to her going missing
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that night. That's going to be Key Nay.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
A spring break trip takes a turn.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
For the worst when twenty year old University of Pittsburgh
student Suditcha Kannkey vanishes after a night out.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
We're friends.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
See that video one more time. I want to make
sure you see what I'm seeing. This is from our
friend at know to see us, our friends that know
to see us. Now she's on the left. Look there,
she goes, throwing up. That's Sadiksha on the left. A
friend is there, see right there? Okay, and they're talking
to each other. But if you look on the right,
we believe that is him. See him, we think on
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the right throwing up out by trash can Now is
that everyone else's understanding or is that what we're seeing.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Let's just start it over one more time.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Which leads me to Joe Scott Morgan's question, what did
they ingest that's making them throw up?
Speaker 3 (24:42):
Okay, take a listen to this.
Speaker 9 (24:45):
Sadiksha Kinanki and five college friends arrive in the Dominican
Republic on March third. They've booked rooms at the all
inclusive resort Rio Republica in Puntakana. A couple of days later,
Sadeksha and her friends are dancing in a disco when
the resort experiences a twenty five hour power outage in
some areas. The group of six women and two men
decide to go for a moonlight walk on the beach.
Surveillance videos document Sidiksha Kananki in five women along with
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two men, walking toward the beach. About an hour later,
surveillance footage shows five women and one man leaving the beach.
Kananki apparently stays behind on the beach with Joshua Reeve,
a twenty four year old spring breaker from the US.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Okay, guys, you are seeing more from our friends at
SI N. Take a look at this. Now we are
seeing the two of them walking. Okay, Now I understand
that this is after There they are, Yes, there they are,
and that is consistent with what he was wearing when
he was vomiting. Remember in that video you see the
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white sneakers, the white sox, the shorts, and the backpack.
That's why we believe that was him vomiting at a
trash can outside.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
Now you've got another view.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
This is for our friends at SIN surveillance video catching
there you see the group, they're all walking to the.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
Beach, arm in arm there you go. Now what happened
after that?
Speaker 1 (26:07):
To doctor Chloe Carmichael, joining US clinical psychologist and author
of Nervous Energy Harness the pair of your anxiety, and
you can find her on Twitter at doctor Chloe Doctor Chloe.
As Sheriff Mike Chapman was saying earlier, it feels like
the US, and that gives you the suggestion of safety,
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that you understand what's around you, that you understand what's happening. Typically,
you go into a bar and you're dancing and have
a good time with your friends. In the US, it's
unlikely it happens, but it's unlikely you're going to get
drug to start throwing up. It's unlikely you're going to
be separated from your friends. It can happen, but you're functioning.
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Maybe it's because you're on vacation. I'm not sure what
it is. Your defenses are down and you're functioning in
a bubble.
Speaker 13 (27:02):
Explain that, Yeah, Nancy, I agree, there's something really strange.
You know, even for spring break, it's definitely noteworthy that
they're sitting there at a bar with their friends, everyone's
dressed up, looking nice, and then they're literally sitting there puking,
but they don't even seem bothered by it. It really
does point to a serious possibility of you know, maybe
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taking ecstasy or drugs where you kind of expect to
throw up before you then start to feel good. And
it makes me wonder. Since that young man pictured obviously
appears to be a wrestler, I wonder if he's on
a wrestling scholarship. I wonder if that's holding him back
from coming forward and saying, yeah, I was taking illegal
drugs and there was you know, I didn't intend to
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hurt her, but you know, something went wrong with the drugs,
and maybe he's concerned about losing his scholarship. I'm not
sure because she doesn't fit the profile of a serial
risk seeker, right. You know, she's very organized, she's in
a pre med program. She's only there on a vacation,
so something about it definitely seems strange. I would also
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be curious since he says that he went and fell
asleep in a chair. That doesn't sound like somebody who's
guilty and trying to evade the scene of a crime.
We have a lot of video of him before the incident.
I'm curious about the first time that he appears on
video after the disappearance.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
I agree with you, now, this is what he says happens.
Speaker 9 (28:29):
Listen after the night on the beach Kanaki's friends go
on an excursion that Kanaki had not signed up for,
so they don't miss her. As they head out at
eight fifty five am, Joshua Reebe returns to his hotel
room alone, without his shoes or his shirt. It's only
after Sidekha's friends return that afternoon they realized they don't
know where Sidekha is. Tracking down Joshua Reebe, he says
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he passed out on the beach and when he awoke,
he was alone and went to his hotel room, assuming
Kanaki had already done the same. But it's been twelve
hours since she was last seen.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Now I want to look at the video again. But
to Eric Fattus, what about a cell phone?
Speaker 10 (29:05):
The cell phone is always a critical piece of evidence
in a case like this. It needs to be looked
into a little more further. I think when you look
at that video that we just saw of the two
walking near the hotel at night, really has what appears
to be a cell phone in his hands, sort of
documenting what's going on, common sense would tell us that
that could be his cell phone. But later in some
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reports I've read, he tells police that after he's at
the beach, he goes back to his own room to
get his cell phone. So when did he drop it off?
Is there some sort of evidence of that, did someone
go with him? Is there a witness statement to corroborate that.
What is going on with the cell phone? And what
might it show about what happened?
Speaker 1 (29:44):
We're learning, good point, Eric Fattus, we're learning more about
the timeline now the vomiting, the vomiting video.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Yeah, there it is.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
There's what we believe is his cell phone, you're right, Eric,
And it looks like he's videoing a selfie video.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
You're right? Is that his? Or is that hers? And
has her cell phone been found?
Speaker 1 (30:08):
The vomiting incident is around four five am?
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Okay, now listen to this.
Speaker 14 (30:18):
CCTV helps shot a timeline for Joshua Rebeat starting around
four am, when he is seen with his arm draped
around Sudeiksha Kanonkey as they are headed to the beach
at the resort. Joshua Rebe is spotted on CCTV walking
back alone from the beach at eight fifty five am.
Suditsha is not seen on CCTV returning from the beach.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
So we've got four to five they're throwing up and
walking toward the beach. And now look at this shot.
This is the shot we're talking about eight fifty five
between four five am and eight fifty five am, this happens, Okay,
Sheriff Mike Chapman.
Speaker 7 (30:59):
Way in, Well, I can tell you you know, we're
we are looking at the phones. We have the numbers.
There's there is work that's being done on that. I
can't really go into the detail on that. We do
have some extensive investigation that's being done on that, and
that's going to take a little a little bit of
time to get that information back. But it's not it's
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not anything that's been an oversight on the investigator's part. Again,
working with the FBI, work come with our counterparts and
trying to do the best we can to get as
much information as we can with regards to the phones.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Will you say, as much information as you can regarding
the phone, Sheriff Chapman. Have they found both of their phones?
Speaker 7 (31:39):
Again, I can't really get into that. What I can
tell you is that we do have the numbers of
I believe everybody who is down there involved, and there
is there is some technical work that's being done on that.
But again that's you know, it's it's part of the
ongoing investigation, and really we can't really discuss a whole
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lot more.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
After careful analysis, there's not that much difference in what
he's saying in his multiple versions. Also, according to a
Kanukie family friend, he was very helpful.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
Listen to what they told our friends at ABC.
Speaker 5 (32:18):
We walked to the beach along with the boy, and
the boy helped us, and he was annoying us kind
of like what really happened and.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
Where he was our friends at ABC.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
The investigation intensifies for missing twenty year old Pittsburgh student
Sudiksha Kanukey last.
Speaker 14 (32:41):
Seen him on the beach well on a spring.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
Break trip with friends. Where is Sudiksha? How is it?
Speaker 1 (32:50):
She goes out to the beach, she is kissing a
guy and about waste deep water, and suddenly she's washed
out to see rebe the well. It's the so called
person of interest. But now we're learning that dr is
backtracking saying he's not really a person of interest, he's
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a witness. Now I find that really interesting that they're
holding him there. He can't believe they've got his passport yet.
He's just a witness. Let me ask you about that,
Earv Brant. Now I am transposing the US justice system
onto the dr which was anything but true. But you
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have to be a POI or a suspect or be
named a material witness by a court before you can
have your passport taken, seized and forced to stay there.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
At least that's a law in the US.
Speaker 15 (33:50):
What's happening, Well, it's exactly what you said, Nancy. We
view these things as we would view them in the US,
which once you leave the US, it's completely different. Their country,
their rules.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
And not in a good way or not in a
good way.
Speaker 15 (34:09):
No, I no, I agree in most cases, Nancy, I
worked extensively outside of the country, and it's very frustrating.
But each country has their own way of doing things.
And if they take his passport, then they take his
passport and he can leave until they tell him he
can leave.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
I've never accused you of putting perfume on the pig,
but I guess I'll have to do it for the
first time right now. Or every country has their own
way of doing things, you mean, their own way of
botching up an investigation.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
Wouldn't that be a little more accurate, just like Innaruba.
Speaker 15 (34:44):
Yes, that would be more accurate, Nancy, I'm being far
too nice.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Yeah, And I don't know why.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
Because every hour counts if she is still alive, and
there is that possibility anything could have happened to.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
Her, our counts and while we.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Are tiptoeing around the fact that the d are screwing
this up, that's one more hour.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
Lost Earth, one more hour.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
Thank Heaven, Chapman, send his people down in the FBI
are involved.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
I mean, Joe Scott helped me out. Am I just
screaming down the window going down Third Avenue.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
Every hour counts here, and we can't rely on the
DR to do anything.
Speaker 12 (35:26):
One of the biggest concerns for me, Nancy, is the
idea that this is not like a broad spectrum approach
relative to an investigation. If they're only focused on this
one kid here, this one guy they that she was
last seen with, you're going to miss other things along
the way. I have a real issue with both of these,
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both of these individuals almost throwing up simultaneously.
Speaker 11 (35:51):
At that bar.
Speaker 12 (35:52):
I want to know if there's any other kind of
illness that could be associated there on there, and I
want to know if anybody's been following this.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Scott, do you recall the extensive investigation we did into
alcohol poisoning at these all inclusive result resorts that have
ended in the deaths of several Americans. You go to
a bar, you have something to drink. Is bootleg whiskey
put in a US model? Okay, it might say seagrums
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or something else on the front, but you're getting some
hooch made in somebody's garage.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
Okay, that's happening.
Speaker 12 (36:32):
Dave and I just covered cases out of Southeast Asia
involved in methanol and they are a huge group of
these cases that have happened in Turkey as well, Nancy,
where you're not using ethanol, which is what we consume
alcohol was, they make bootleg hoots or bathtub gin out
of methanol, which is very, very dangerous stuff. I want
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to know if there's any other instances down in the
dr at this specific resort that have led and it
can lead to things like blindness, nausea, and ultimately death.
I want to know if anybody else was presenting that
way that night. That's what I mean by broad spectrum here.
You can't just narrow your focus down to this one event.
We want to know what else was going on around
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them that night. And again, this could be a PR
nightmare for the dr if there is any kind of
problem with an alcohol down all right, Like it was.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
A PR nightmare for Aruba when Natalie went missing, Tourism
from the US skyrocketed. Okay, So when you don't know
a horse, look at the track record. When you don't
know what's gonna happen, look at what already did happen.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
But I agree with you, Joe Scott. We can't get
total vision on Rebet. Now. Yes, I've got a problem
with him. Of course I've got a problem with him.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
He's the last one with a girl in all I've
got is a flip flop and a sarong.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
He's the last one with her.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
And his story is all over the map, not necessarily
consistent though, So yes, looking at him, but total vision
is not going to help find her. And as a
matter of fact, this is what people that know Rebee
have to say.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
Josh was just so polite.
Speaker 6 (38:12):
He was a good teammate in sports, and he was
part of the boy scout troop.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
Never heard a girl.
Speaker 10 (38:19):
You know, I don't know what happened, but there's no
way he would have intentionally been any part of any
scheme to do something to her.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
From our friends at GMA.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
Authorities are looking at on Iowa Man, believed to be
the last person to see missing University of Pittsburgh students
Sudiksha Kanunki.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
Also under the microscope. Two then MO payments.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
One we don't know exactly what it is, but Sudiksha
put an emoji of a sailboat beside the venmo payment.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
You know, you can put a little.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
Message in there, And the other one is to replaced
Coco Bongo. To Emily Layman, joining from past dot Com,
explain to me about the two venmos and where they
fit into the timeline.
Speaker 6 (39:05):
They fit in the timeline because those are the last
Venmo transactions that she had, and these are you know,
you think, payments that she would send between friends for
the activities that they were doing when they were on
their spring break trip. But one of them, of course,
you don't really know much about because all it has
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is a sailboat emoji and we don't really know much
information about who that went to. And then the other one,
of course, you know, I went to who was confirmed
to be a friend with her on the trip, but
we don't know who else was at that nightclub.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
The thinking is the sailboat emerging emoji indicates it could
have been an excursion. And like doctor Chloe Carmichael was
telling us earlier, you kind of suspend your reality. You're
functioning under the illusion that you're safe. You made it guy,
and you immediately go for a walk on the beach
and go out in the water with him alone.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
Why why?
Speaker 1 (40:06):
Of course she's young, but it's happened before, and not
just with Natalie Holloway.
Speaker 16 (40:12):
Robin Gardner needed a get away. Gardner it had met
Gary Giordano on match dot com a year before. Friends
say the two weren't super close and had a platonic relationship,
but stayed in contact via email. When the invitation came,
Robin said yes, and the pair arrived in a Ruba
July thirty.
Speaker 14 (40:30):
First.
Speaker 17 (40:31):
I was told that she was lost at sea, and
I just found that very surprising because I know that
she really doesn't swim or get into the water because
she has extensions and.
Speaker 11 (40:46):
Her makeup and got all called up and she.
Speaker 17 (40:50):
Just didn't want to ruin that.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
And that was Robin's sister talking to me and apparently
with Robin Gardner's case, she just washed out to see okay,
although she would never have gotten in the water after
just having.
Speaker 3 (41:05):
Her hair done. And there's more. What about Wesley Bell?
Speaker 9 (41:08):
TeX's native Wesley Bell is in the Bahamas, tending a
yoga retreat on Paradise Island in Nassau. The Seven Andra
Ashram Yoga Retreat, Bahamas featured in The New York Times,
Gwyneth Paltrow's Goop and huff Post as a top travel destination.
Danielle Ward Packard, who was at the retreat at the
same time as Belle, says he walked off by himself
to snorkel one day and never returned. Searches are conducted,
(41:31):
but Belle is never found, and Taylor Casey Taylor Casey
goes missing from the same Behavian retreat. Casey disappears about
halfway through getting a yoga instructor's certification as seven Andro
on Ashram Yoga. Last scene at the Ashram, she's reported
missing after failing to show up for morning classes. Police
find her phone in the water days later, but haven't
(41:52):
been able to access its contents, and she remains missing.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
To Sheriff Mike Chapman, how is it people just walk
out in the water and they're never seen again according
to reports.
Speaker 3 (42:04):
Don't you find that disturbing, Sheriff?
Speaker 7 (42:07):
Of course. I mean if if that was the case
in this case, I mean, you know, you certainly would
hope for a recovery, a quick recovery. But that hasn't happened.
So that's why we can't really jump on a conclusion
ship jamply. Yeah, it's a shame, but it does happen
from time to time.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
I wish I had better answers tonight, Sheriff. Usually the
facts are more clearly defined, but this is just too
murky to make a call. But what we do know
is this young girl pre med Suditsha is gone. Tip
line Local number seven zero three seven seven seven one
(42:50):
zero two one repeat. This is Sheriff Mike Chapman's number
seven zero three seven seven seven one zero two one.
Speaker 3 (43:01):
Nancy Grace signing off, goodbye friend,
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