October 5, 2023 • 41 mins
A 13-year-old girl is abducted as she walks from her bus stop to her home.
There, she is jumped by four men, dressed all in black. The men tape her eyes and mouth shut, throw her in the trunk of a car, and drive off. The teen is taken to a rural area 20 miles away, tied to a tree, and assaulted. The girl is left there, half-nude, but she manages to get away and seek help.
As police investigate, they find a plot planned by someone known to the girl. Her father's live-in girlfriend, who has been asked to leave the home. Police believe Sandra Garcia concocted the plan to scare her boyfriend's daughter into returning to live with their mother overseas.
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace is currently following this trial.
Joining Nancy Grace Today:
- Dale Carson– High-profile Criminal Defense Attorney (Jacksonville), Former FBI Agent & Former Police Officer (Miami-Dade County); Author: “Arrest-Proof Yourself; Twitter: @DaleCarsonLaw
- Dr. Jorey Krawczyn – Police Psychologist, Adjunct Faculty with Saint Leo University; Research Consultant with Blue Wall Institute, Author: Operation S.O.S. – Practical Recommendations to Help “Stop Officer Suicide”
- Ron Bateman – Sheriff (Former Homicide and Undercover Narcotics) & Author: “Silent Blue Tears: Voice of The Victims;” Twitter: Ronbatemanbooks
- Rachel D. Fischer – Registered Nurse; Sexual Assault Nurse Examiner (SANE); Expert Witness, Private Investigator, and Author: “Taking Back the Pen;” Forensic Nursing Consulting and Education LLC
- Todd G. Shipley, CFE, CFCE – Cyber Crime Expert, and Author: “Investigating Internet Crimes: An Introduction to Solving Crimes in Cyberspace;” Twitter: @webcase
- Alexis Tereszcuk – CrimeOnline.com Investigative Reporter, Writer/Fact Checker at Lead Stories;Twitter: @swimmie2009
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Crime Stories with Nancy Greece. A thirteen year old little
girl on her way to school gets kidnapped by strangers,
taken out to a field, forced in a car, taken
out to a field a remote and isolated feel beaten
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horribly and sex assaulted with a stick as she's tied
to a tree and left there completely bloody and bruised
and trying to make sense of what has just happened
to her. They leave her there tied to a tree.
(00:49):
Why I think I know, Nancy Grace, this is Crime Stories.
Thank you for being with us here at Fox Nation
and Serious XEM one eleven and let's kick it off
with our friends at KFSN.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
It seemed like a normal day Tuesday in this nice
neighborhood in the Academy area. The thirteen year old girl
got off the bus and walked about a quarter of
a mile to her home when she was confronted by
masked men.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
She had arrived home in the area of Shepherd and
Academy when she walked up near her front door. That's
when she had a couple of young men approach her
and said, come.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
With us, the little girl on our way home from school.
That was mass Awkwards on our way home from school,
and these people were waiting near her home. These male assailants,
adult males. Had they been stalking there? Had they had
they been watching her to know when she would get
off the bus?
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Listen from what we've been able to piece together, the
girl was thrown into the trunk of a car driven
up a windy mountain road for about thirty miles. Then
her captors drug her up this mountain trail and tied
her to a tree, then beat her. Despite all that,
she managed to get herself free and hike to a
nearby house, where the folks who were there said she
(02:09):
appeared bloody and bruised.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
She walked up and she was all bloodied up and
said she got kidnapped. And so we went and got
a phone to call nine one one.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
The poor little girl, just thirteen years old, manages to
struggle loose from the ropes tying her to a tree.
This child kidnapped after getting off the school bus by
adult males stuffed in a car driven to a remote field.
(02:41):
This thing was very well planned, wasn't it. There she
was beaten, horribly beaten. Can you imagine beating a little
thirteen year old girl in her face, all across her body,
beating her while she's tied to a tree, and then
(03:01):
raping this little girl with a stick. You know, grown
women never get over trauma like this. They go on.
I've dealt with so many rape victims. They go on.
They try to raise their children, they try to have
a normal relationship with their husband, they try to go
(03:22):
to work, but it never goes away. What about if
this happens to a little girl. Now, this is something
no prosecutor is allowed to do with the jury. You
are never taught you are the law is. You cannot
put the jarrars in the shoes of the victim, Like
(03:44):
what if this was you? But think about it, what
if this was you? Or even worse, what if this
was your little girl? Just think about it. Praise the Lord.
This child is alive. This little girl, I'm not her name,
but what she endured? And now I want to find
(04:04):
out who, what, where, why and when? Guys? Did you
notice when you hear all of the news and read
all the articles about this case, everyone talks about what
a nice neighborhood it was, that nobody saw that coming,
you know, with me Ron Bateman for and Arundel County
(04:28):
Sheriff in Homicide, Undercover Narcotics. You can find now at
Ronbatemanbooks dot com. Ron. Why is everyone so shocked when
a crime happens and they quote nice neighborhood?
Speaker 6 (04:42):
People just don't realize that bad things happen in nice neighborhoods,
but they do.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
And you know what I found out Ron Ron Bateman
joining former and Arundeld County sheriff. You know, the richer
people are, the more wealthy they are, the more miserable
they are. I don't know if that's everyone's analysis, but
Deal Carson joining me, high profile lawyer out of the
Jacksonville jurisdiction, former FBI, former police officer in Miami Dade,
(05:08):
never a lack of business there, and author of Arrest
Proof Yourself. You can find them at del Carson Law Dell.
When people say it's such a nice neighborhood, well, crime
happens everywhere. I remember trying cases in inner City Atlanta,
and we would have jurors from all over Fulton County,
Metropolitan Atlanta, and I'm talking about rich people up from
(05:32):
North Atlanta that lived by the country club. They would
come into inner city Atlanta for these trials and they
were like blown away. Hey, this is just about three
miles from where you live, people, and it happens in
your neighborhood too, But everyone always makes such a big
deal that this was such a beautiful neighborhood and like
nothing could ever happen there.
Speaker 6 (05:51):
Crime is not a respector of persons. And when people
have money, people know this. And that's a driving force
because a lot of people get money in ways that
aggravate other people, so they put themselves unknowingly, unwittingly at risk.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
That's interesting what you just said, guys. I'm talking about
this little thirteen year old girl that is, and there's
no doubt that this happened in my mind anyway, this
little girl getting off the bus, walking to her home
and as they say, a really nice upscale neighborhood, when
she is suddenly attacked by unknown assailants. How did that happen?
(06:34):
They bundle her in a car and wait till you
hear what kind of car it is, take her off
to a remote field. How do they know to get
in that remote field from her house? Where they beat
the little girl, stripp her, beat her and rape her
with a stick leaver tied to a tree. Listen to ABC.
Speaker 5 (06:56):
Thirty and she was scared. She just wanted to call
her dad, but so we called nine one one.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
And how badly hurt were she?
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Her face was all.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
Bruised up, and then she said she got punched and
her lips were all bloody.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
The residents of the house on the Cold Springs ranch
where the girl sought help did not want to be identified.
They told us the girl told them four men took
her and threatened to kill her family if she told anybody.
The suspects are described as four young men of medium
build driving a silver late nineties model BMW.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
A silver BMW, four men who threatened to kill her family.
M let's take a listen to some more.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
The girl's neighbor was shocked, but so glad the child survived.
Speaker 7 (07:42):
A few neighbors and I were actually praying for the
family and just relieved that the story didn't end in
a much more tragic way.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
Now the sheriff's apartment is still searching for a motive.
The girl's father is a local business executive.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Again, neighbors say they were a lovely family. Didn't believe
they would.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Have had any okay, joining me in all star paneling
to make sense of what we know right now. In
addition to Ron Bateman and Del Carson, doctor Jory Crawls,
and Rachel Fisher, Todd Shipley, and now to Alexis Tereschuk
climboonline dot Com investigative reporter. Alexis tell me, I want
to ask specifically about how the child was kidnapped between
(08:19):
the school bus and home.
Speaker 7 (08:21):
So she was the bus drop drop at about three
twenty pm. She walks about a quarter of a mile home.
Here's the thing. She usually walks with her younger sister
from home from the bus to her house. But her
little sister was not feeling well that day, so she
did not go to school. So she was alone, which
is very unusual. This is not her normal pattern. So
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she gets off the bus, she walks to the front.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Door, right, did you say a quarter of a mile?
Speaker 7 (08:48):
About a quarter of a mile?
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Yeah, okay, that's not far at all. That's max maximum
five minutes, maybe four, maybe three exactly. Let's just go
with five minutes. She's got a five minute walk. You know,
in elementary school, we would ride the bus to school, Alexis,
but our home was so close to the public school
(09:12):
that we would walk home every day. It is one
mile and we'd be home in eleven twelve minutes we
were children, skipping, running, walking, we'd get home, I don't know,
twelve minutes or so. So she can't be over five
minutes from home. Broad day light, broad day light, upscale neighborhood.
(09:33):
Where exactly is this? I mean, I know it's Clovis, California,
But where is Clovis, California.
Speaker 7 (09:38):
Clovis, California is basically in the middle of the state
of California. It is about two hundred miles from San Francisco,
about three hundred miles from Los Angeles, in the kind
of the middle of the state. It's a beautiful area
and if you look, you know they've sort of given
the area of where she lives and they called them
(09:59):
the Hills. This is a beautiful neighborhood with homes that
are huge, huge property, swimming pools, three car garages, you know,
two and a half acre lots. So for her to
walk the school bus with two out Baker's I mean,
she might have just walked by two houses just to
get home, just trying to.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Drink in everything you're saying. Time stories with Nancy gracelsus
(10:36):
Terreschuk is joining me from this jurisdiction. I'm just imagining
all that now. I noticed she wanted to call her dad.
She say call my w one. She didn't say call MO.
She wanted to call her dad. She lived with her father. Correct,
her and her sister. She and her sister.
Speaker 7 (10:56):
Yes, she is about two years older than her younger
sister and she with her dad.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Well, what does he do for a living.
Speaker 7 (11:02):
He is an executive with a business company and he's
actually he was Swedish.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Well, he's Swedish or the company is Swedish.
Speaker 7 (11:11):
He is Swedish, and their mom is Swedish. But he
lives with the girls in the United said. They are
American citizens.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Okay, I understand the mom at that time was living
out of the country, so she's at that moment with
the dad. The two girls are with daddy. He's Swedish
and he works with the company that requires him to
travel a lot. He's a high powered executive. I imagine you'd
(11:37):
have to be to live in a house like that, right, Yes.
Speaker 7 (11:39):
He was very high up in the company and they
lived in a almost a six thousand square foot house,
five bedrooms, four bathrooms, a beautiful area here.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
And you know another thing about this is a very
small population for that area of land. There's about one
hundred thousand people there. Interesting, interesting, Del Carson. When you
have so few people spread one hundred thousand people spread
out out of a huge area, you would expect a
(12:12):
lower crime rate, and certainly not a violent crime like
this on a thirteen year old little girl.
Speaker 6 (12:17):
Well, it's evident they had a plan and they knew
a lot of information.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
It does seem well planned to me, Del Carson. I
agree with you because in this big, sprawling area where
a lot's two and a half acres and she's, as
Alexis said, probably like two houses from the bus stop,
what were they watching the butt stop? How did they
know one little girl was going to get off by herself?
Or was the plan like libbyan abbey in Delphi, to
(12:46):
two little girls? But that's really rare, wouldn't you agree,
Ron Bateman, for two little girls to be attacked that
it does it's usually one victim. Wouldn't you agree with that?
Speaker 6 (12:57):
Yes? I would?
Speaker 1 (12:58):
So what led up to this little girl getting kidnapped
and raped and beaten, managing to break away from being
tied to a tree and get to a neighbor's home,
just literally dripping in blood on her face, her torso,
her legs were dripping in blood. Yet blood all over
her beaten scratched. As a matter of fact, we have
(13:22):
a description of the little girl's external injuries. Take a
listen to Kfson. She had readness and scratch marks.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
On her back.
Speaker 8 (13:31):
Dozens of photos showed scratching on the then thirteen year
old's face and back. Other photos too explicit for Action
News to share, suggested she was bleeding near her legs.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Think about what this child has been through. Joining me.
Rachel Fisher, forensic nurse expert, a saying sex assault nurse examiner,
also expert witness, private investigator with Forensic Nursing Consulting and
Education LC. You can find her at Legal are In
consult dot org. Rachel. That is a textbook description of
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a child rape victim.
Speaker 9 (14:08):
Unfortunately it is and that when a child comes to
the hospitals or something like this. You just heard them
talk about photos. We have to have them tell us
every bit of what happened and then ask them to
get undressed so we can photograph all these things that
just happen and look all over their body and re
exploit them and what it feels like.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
It does feel like that to them, it does. It's horrible.
I've spoken to so many rape victims who can't adult
rape victims who can articulate the rape kn't exam It's
awful to have to endure and you're there at such
a horrible, probably the worst moment in your life, and
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then to go through that. That's what this little girl
obviously had.
Speaker 10 (14:52):
To go through.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
But I want to circle back to what made this
day any different from every other day? Take a list.
Speaker 11 (15:00):
At ABC thirty, the victim's younger sister was asked about
the morning of the crime. She said her father was
out of town for work that morning, and she remembers
her sister being unable to find her cell phone before
leaving for school.
Speaker 12 (15:13):
I felt like the home dynamic got worse when he
was gone. I think she was stressed because she was
going to school and she couldn't find her phone.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Joining me right now, Doctor Jury Crawls in psychologist's former
law enforcement now faculty at Saint Leo University and consultant
with the Blue Wall Institute. You can find him a
doctor jury dot com and he's the author of Operation SOS.
Doctor Jury. Thanks for being with us, doctor Jury. You know,
when the twins were little, and they would be horrible
(15:44):
little creatures, they would get time out. A spanking didn't work.
I spanked Lucy twice through her big fat diaper and
she just looked at me like that was it. So
spankings do not work. I do time out. That would work,
but now it doesn't work. Time out means nothing. They
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love being in their room by theirselves. What does work
is if you take away their phone. All my stars,
even for thirty minutes, it's like all hl broke loose.
So here's the little girl trying to go to school,
and my twins when I take them to school, they've
got their backpack. Of course, Lucy takes her own organic lunch.
She has her lunch, and they have their phones. They
(16:28):
don't go anywhere without their phones. I mean, really, does
anybody on this panel go anywhere without their phone. No,
So the little girl was upset because this day, of
all other days, she couldn't find her phone. Explain the attachment,
doctor Jory.
Speaker 13 (16:42):
The phone is like a self identity we connect to
and especially with her, you see there's a close relationship
with their father in that phone. Was that contact with
her father at any time? I would imagine it would
kind of give her some self confidence and as a security,
being able to any time during the day in school
(17:04):
to reach out to her father because she traveled a lot,
but it appeared like they were very close and they
kept in close contact with that phone, So not being
able to locate it before she went to school would
definitely be a very stressful situation and create a lot
of anxiety in her and probably disrupted a lot of
her daily planning.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
You know what I was thinking about. I was thinking
about how teens or she just thirteen years old, had
just turned thirteen. I might add, they love to be
in touch with their friends. They love to look at TikTok.
They they're into snapping each other. But what you just
said really hit home, Doctor Jory. With the father, the
mother lives out of the country at that time, she did,
(17:47):
and the father had to travel a lot. The two
little girls or US citizens, they were born here. That's
her only contact with her parents that she can call,
and he's out of town. I didn't think about it
that way. You're right, So she was very upset that
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morning because she couldn't find her.
Speaker 13 (18:10):
Phone, And a lot of with the phone is you know,
we'd use it for calls, but a lot of with
the kids. And I do this with my grandchildren when
I travel. This just send them text messages, you know,
or send them you know, you can chat with them
real quick, and that kind of that contact, you know,
is very supportive and very secure feeling for the child.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
You know, the way that you said that, I hate
to travel away from the twins, but if they before
they were born, I mean I would go and stay
for three four months. I remember I was a Scott
Peterson troll. Think four months, I can't remember now, and
that was just fine. But now I hate being gone
even one night, and we FaceTime and we text the
(18:52):
whole shebang. You know, I'm accused of calling every night
during dinner, during supper, but so be it. I'm just
thinking about the connection she had with her dad, plus
the teen identity of your phone. So that morning she's upset.
The sister says she was upset. The dynamic was worse
when the dad was gone. But what does the little
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girl herself say?
Speaker 14 (19:15):
Listen, they took yellow rope and taped my arms by
my back, and then they walked me to the driveway
by our guesthouse and shoved me in the trunk.
Speaker 8 (19:26):
As his daughter walked home from the school bus stop,
men approached her.
Speaker 14 (19:29):
They were wearing all black and masks so I couldn't
see their faces. They took tape, very thin tape, like
kind of scrap booking tape, and put it around my lips.
Speaker 6 (19:44):
And my eyes.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Let's examine what we have just learned from the little
girl herself. They the kidnappers. The rapist took yellow rope
and taped my arms behind my back. They walked me
to the driveway by our guest house and shoved me
in the trunk by the guest house. Weren't they afraid
somebody in the house may see what was happening right outside?
(20:09):
Shoved her in the trunk of a BMW, a silver BMW.
They had masks on, and they were all dressed up
ninja style, all black. In the middle of the day.
It's three twenty. She's coming home from school, and they
had thin tape to put over her lips and eyes. Okay,
(20:31):
let's think this thing through. Dale Carson, You're right, this
was orchestrated and this was prepared. They're dressed like ninjas.
Remember when Jody Arias said I didn't kill Travis. Three
guys dressed as ninjas came in, Right, somebody's been watching
way too much TV. These guys dressed like ninjas. They're
(20:54):
wearing masks. They brought yellow rope and tape with them.
Speaker 6 (20:59):
The first investigative clue that they were masked. That tells
you something about the character of the relationship between the
abductors and the child.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
What what does it tell me that they're known known
or yes, known, don't want to be identified, don't want
their face to appear on camera. Don't you see all
those people running in and out of Nordstroms and all
those high priced Lululemon, you name it. They all are
wearing hoodies or their COVID masks so they don't get identified.
(21:32):
And I guarantee that Clark doesn't know those people. But
that said, you may be right, maybe she could identify them.
Maybe they just didn't want to be caught on surveillance
cameras around that five bedroom However, many bath home on
a two and a half acre plot.
Speaker 6 (21:47):
What you say is true, though, if anybody else were
in the house. It's odd that they didn't. They didn't know.
How could they know nobody else was in the house.
How's that possible?
Speaker 1 (21:59):
So Alexis tout. What Tail Carson and I are talking
about is the fact that they're doing this basically in
the front yard. They're getting her on her walk from
the school bus stop to her home, which we think
is about three minutes. You walk past two of these big,
huge mansions, you get to her home, and then they
take her beside her home. They have to go buy
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the home to get to the guest house in the
back I guess by a pool, and there they bundled
her into a silver BMW and Jova. They weren't worried
that somebody in the house might see her, or did
they know the father was out of town. Had they
been watching the home, would anyone else have been there?
Speaker 7 (22:40):
Alexis normally her little sister would have been there with her,
but she first of all, she always had her phone,
she could not find it that day missing, and then
her sister, formerly goes to school, was not fealing well
that day. So what happened was her dad has a
girlfriend who is living with the family, and the girlfriend
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took the little sister called her dad and said, Daddy,
I don't feel well. I don't want to go to
school today. He said, okay, stayed home. The girlfriend made
the little sister go with her to her own doctor's appointment.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Okay, wait, so there's a girlfriend in the house. There's
a living girlfriend.
Speaker 7 (23:18):
There is daddy has a girlfriend.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Okay, daddy's got a girlfriend. She's living in the house.
And that morning when the thirteen year old victim lost
her phone, the sister, the little sister didn't feel well,
but the girlfriend wouldn't let the little sister stay home
alone and had the little sister go with girlfriend to
girlfriend's doctor's appointment. Is that right?
Speaker 7 (23:40):
That's exactly right?
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Okay, but how did the assailants think that no one
would be in the home looking out at them going
by with this little girl and their mask on and
their ninja suits. Who's the girlfriend? Let's STAYBC thirty.
Speaker 15 (23:56):
Sandra Garcia lived the good life when she dated a wealthy,
Sweatyddish businessman.
Speaker 8 (24:00):
Johann gets It was in a relationship with Sandra Garcia.
The two met online, and Garcia eventually moved in to
get Set's Clovis home with two of her sons.
Speaker 15 (24:09):
She and her four boys moved into the boyfriend's Clovis home,
but as a number of people in the home, groom
sort of the tension. The man asked Garcia to move out,
and that's when she started plotting how to stay. She
tried and failed to set him up for a dui
and a falsely accused him of domestic violence.
Speaker 14 (24:27):
Yes, I asked her to move out in January of
twenty sixteen, correct, in.
Speaker 10 (24:31):
The eight of thirty days, right, yes.
Speaker 8 (24:33):
Weeks later, that tension came to a head when Getzet
was away on a business trip.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Okay, I've got to digest everything that I just heard.
So he's got a live in girlfriend and she has
somehow ended in a pot of honey with this wealthy
Swedish business exec who lives with his two little girls.
The wife's side of the picture. So like's a treasure.
Let me understand this. She lands in a pot of honey.
She moves in with this wealthy Swedish businessman who lives
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along with his two girls, and she brings along her
two sons. Now they're in their early twenties.
Speaker 7 (25:09):
Right, yes they are.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
I wonder how that messed with the two girls. Well,
it didn't mesh because there was too much tension, and ultimately,
after a period of time, the dad says, you got
to go. You and your family are not getting along
with my two little girls. Now, what did I hear
(25:30):
that she tried to make to frame him for a
DUI or a false domestic violence report.
Speaker 7 (25:40):
Yes, that is what he has said. He said that
this relationship had gone so badly he wanted her out,
and instead of just moving, she came up with these
crazy plans. She tried to save the DUI. She falsely
claimed that he had abused her a domestic abuse situation
since she was his living girlfriend, none of which which
was true.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
You know, I need to go to our shrink doctor,
Joey crawlsin. When somebody tells you to move out of
their home, I would move out. I wouldn't want to
be there. But instead, according to reports, she tries to
hatch up a fake domestic violence report and a duy.
How is that helping her?
Speaker 13 (26:16):
Well, it's trying to establish more control over that environment
and over him. She must have seen where you know,
passed things like you through you know, a sexual activity
with him. Isn't kind of controlling him and getting what
she wants. She probably looked at and saw the dynamics
of the family and how close he was to his daughters,
(26:40):
and that was a point of conflict with her and
her older sons. I mean, like say, they were in
their twenties, so I could see the conflict rising in
that environment, and the father just putting his foot down saying, look,
you gotta go.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
No Carson jump in.
Speaker 6 (26:55):
Yeah, what she saw in the house while she was
there rummaging around his bank statement.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Deal, Carson, I believe you're right. And I'm also wondering
why that day, of all days, did the little girl's
cell phone go missing, obviously in my mind, so she
couldn't be tracked. As detectives try their best to unravel
what happened to this little girl, the plot has thickened.
(27:22):
Take a listen to k FSN.
Speaker 12 (27:23):
Towards like the end of twenty fifteen. He felt like,
we weren't really happy in the relationship that they were having,
so that's why it ended. Were you unhappy with the
relationship that they were having at the end of.
Speaker 11 (27:36):
Twenty fifteen, yes, prosecutor say Garcia orchestrated the kidnapping after
Johann gets set evicted her from his clothes home.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
So let me understand this. The detective's theory is that
the living girlfriend plotted the attack on a thirteen year
old little girl just turned thirteen. How was that supposed
to help her and her relationship with the wealthy father.
I don't understand this, but I can tell you one
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thing I believe very firmly. Todd Shipley is going to
help me figure it out. Todd G. Shipley, Certified fraud Examiner,
author of Investigating Internet Crimes and Introduction to Solving Crimes
in Cyberspace. You can find them at Darkintel dot info.
Todd Shipley. The cell phones and the nav data and
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the car navigation data and more surveillance video, these burglar
systems and various homes they would have been driving, by
redlight cams, you name it. All of that digital memory
is going to be used to prove this case. And
who did it? Explain?
Speaker 10 (28:48):
Well? I think, as you already stated, there's so much
digital evidence in this that it's going to be hard
for anybody to say that they weren't parts of the crime.
I know we've already mentioned the girlfriend, her phone, is
going to be critical in this is it's going to
show her part of the conspiracy and what she did
to set it up in the contact with the other
people involved, their sons, and you know, there's so much
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data it's going to be showing where their phones went to,
the sons, tracking right to the location that the crime occurred.
And that's probably why the phone was missing. And I
don't haven't seen his entered as evidence yet, but the
mother probably took the phone, so the girl didn't have
her phone, so she couldn't be tracked. And because the
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phones today have so much data about what we do
and where we go, that it's hard not to show
in court exactly what a person does from minute to
minute using that information.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
This is daddy's living, not the girl's mother. But you're
absolutely correct. I think that is why the little girl's
phone went missing that morning, and why the little girl,
no matter how hard she tried, she retracing her steps,
getting agitated, getting upset. Her one way to connect with
her father is gone. Before she went to school that morning.
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I can tell you both of my children know exactly
where their phone is overnight. So she wakes up in
the morning and the phone's gone, probably charging near her
bed somewhere. Of course, any adult would smell a rap
with this little girl just didn't know what to think.
And that's exactly why what todd Shipley has just told you.
And let me ask you this, todd Shipley, how does
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a NAV system and a cart work?
Speaker 10 (30:26):
Well, the vehicles systems are just like your phones, and
so it's basically the same kind of set up. A
lot of them are Android based systems, so the data
that's in there is going to be the same as
that's on your phone. It's a little more difficult to
get to, but still is accessible and can track a
person exactly the same way that your phone can. The
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problem with the NAV system is I can leave the
phone at home and it won't track me. The NAB
system's on and you don't have any control over what
it collects. And that's the problem that they're going to
have with his data is they had no control. They
can't turn it off.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Speaking of leaving a digital trail a mile wide, take
osten our friend coryin Hoggard at k f.
Speaker 16 (31:11):
CEN detective have connected the dots now in a troubling
kidnapping the shriff says the mastermind was no stranger to
the young victim or her family. Deputy's arrested forty year
old Sandra Garcia on charges of conspiracy to commit kidnapping.
They believe she is the alleged ringleader who orchestrated the crime.
Speaker 15 (31:31):
They say Garcia revealed her final plan in recorded phone
call with her cousin Miguel Carriedo. She asked him if
he knew corrupted people told Carriedo there's no security at
the house, and directed him and friends to kidnap her
boyfriend's thirteen year old daughter on a day when Garcia
scheduled a doctor's appointment for herself.
Speaker 12 (31:50):
It's pretty revealing that this case had been pre planned,
had been worked out where this Garcia would have an alibi.
Speaker 17 (31:59):
He's a business executive who happened to be out of
town the day of the kidnapping. Sandra was one of
the very few who knew. I was out of town
with a coworker for that day, and I noticed after
the detective spoke to her, she was uncomfortable around my daughter.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Uncomfortable around the daughter. I guess she was. If these
claims are true, she just set up the daughter being kidnapped, raped,
beaten til she was bloody, blood all over her legs.
I guess she was uncomfortable around not only the sister,
but the little girl herself. Time stories with Nancy Grace
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that I hear Alexis Tereschuk that there was a recorded
phone call with a girlfriend's cousin Miguil, asking him if
he knew quote corrupted people and telling Coarto Miguil Cardo
that there was no security in the home and directed
his friends to kidnap the teen girl on a day
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when the when when the dad was out of town
and she would make a doctor's appointment for herself. She
didn't count on the little sister feeling ill that day
and having to take the sister with her to the doctor.
But she managed to iron that wrinkle out, didn't she?
She did.
Speaker 7 (33:31):
She took a little girl to appointment. Here's the thing, though,
they get home from the doctor's aployment, the sister is
not home from school and her little sister is panning.
She says, where's my sister. We can't find her anywhere.
The girlfriend is not looking for her. She's not worried.
Speaker 10 (33:47):
She came.
Speaker 7 (33:48):
She's sitting on the sofa on her own phone, completely
ignoring the situation. So the little sister knew two things.
One my sister is missing, and two, my dad's girlfriend
is not worried about her at all, and that was
very concerning to her. She knew right away, eleven years old,
she knew right away that this lady was that something
was really wrong with the way that she was handling
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the whole situation.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
So what to say, eleven year old little sister say
about how the girlfriend was acting when the thirteen year
old I don't want to use their names, when the
thirteen year old was missing.
Speaker 7 (34:20):
She said she didn't seem concerned at all. She wasn't
looking for her. She didn't look anywhere in the house. Again,
the house is big, there's the main house, there's the
guest house that she used property. She wasn't looking anywhere
for her. She wasn't making any phone calls, she wasn't
doing anything. She was just sitting on the sofa, playing
on her own phone.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
From my understanding, the girlfriend the living was just sitting
on the sofa while the eleven year old little sister
was getting more and more frantic about her sister never
coming home from school. The motive that we have gleaned
is that the girlfriend Garcia, wanted the dad all to herself.
She wanted all that money, and she wanted to scare
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the two daughters eleven at that time, ten ten and
thirteen so severely that they would want to return to
their mother, who's living in Sweden. That was the plan
to scare the little girls so badly they would go
home to Sweden with their mom, and the girlfriend could
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have the dad all to herself. Doctor Joy Crasen, This
sounds like the evil stepmother for real.
Speaker 13 (35:33):
Yeah, think about how simplistic that plan appeared to her.
I mean, we'll just scare her because the girl, the victim,
was told don't tell anybody, or we'll come back on
your family. So thinking that she would just go back
and you know, maybe contact her mother. Now, think about
a mother learning about her daughter being taken away like that,
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she would jump in and say you're coming home. So
that's the simple plan that this living girl friend seemed
to have orchestrated.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
Let me tell you what I've learned. After the girlfriend
to live in gets home with the little ten year
old sister, the sister realizes it's after four o'clock that
the thirteen year old isn't home. The little one starts
calling all of her older sister's friends trying to find
out what happened to her. She talks to the girlfriend
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trying to get help. The girlfriend says, Oh, she'll be
home soon, don't worry about it. The little ten year
old girl says the girlfriend was quote really calm and
acted like nothing was wrong, and that it made the
little sister quote sick to my stomach. When asked what
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the girlfriend was doing during all this, was she doing
anything to find the little girl, the sister says, no,
she was just sitting on the couch talking on her
phone like nothing was wrong. He is probably talking to
the kidnappers that she orchestrated to kidnap, beat and rpe
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a thirteen year old little girl. Okay, guys, yeah, take
a listen to our friends at ABC thirty.
Speaker 17 (37:14):
Our restraining order just granted describes the relationship between Garcia
and her now ex boyfriend. He wrote, our backgrounds were
different and there were difficulties at times, and I thought
it was best for Sandra to move out after he
gave her a date to leave. His daughter was kidnapped
in a movie type plot.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Investigators say the.
Speaker 17 (37:33):
Thirteen year old stepped off her school bus last month
to find the suspects were waiting at her doorstep. Sheriff
Mim says the girl was forced into the trunk of
the car and driven to a remote location where she
was tied up, beaten, and kicked.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Am Or and Our cut twenty two from Corn Haggard.
Speaker 15 (37:50):
The school bus dropped off a thirteen year old girl
at her home north of Clovis in February. The girl's
dad wasn't home, but four masked men were waiting for
They put her on trunk of a car, took her
to a remote field, stripped her, feed her and left
her alone to Investigators revealed the plan was hatched about
a week earlier. Garcia and the girl's father were dating,
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but on the outs. Garcia thought the kidnapping could bring
them closer together and keep her in the lifestyle she'd
been living.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
Bring them closer together.
Speaker 15 (38:21):
Here's more, Garcia enlisted the help of her cousin and
her son to try to put a scare into that
thirteen year old girl and get her sent away from Fresno.
In her father's home, they used aps to try to
cover up their footsteps electronically, but they still left the
trail and investigators followed it. She asked her cousin and
her son for help. Ins said it'd be easy because
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the home had no security. Investigators say Garcia used a
burner rap when she discussed the plot, trying to communicate
on her phone in secret, but detectives traced all the
calls and once they connected her to Cariato, they realized
he owned a car matching the one used by the kidnappers.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
Taji Shipley. Using the burner phone app did anything but
help her. That can be trice explain. What is a
burner phone app.
Speaker 10 (39:12):
There's the ability on your phones to download another application
that gives you a second number on your phone, or
more numbers. And she thought that that was going to
prevent the police from identified who she was. But the
app is registered to your phone, and you register almost
always with the email address or some other identifying information
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to that app, and so it was easily traced back
to her. It didn't protect her at all.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
You're so right about that. Take a listen now to
more of the facts we are learning.
Speaker 15 (39:43):
The indictment says Garcia hid the girl's phone that day.
It says one of her sons, Mark Anthony Roque, laden
wait with Carto inside the home until the girl got
back from school. Court documents claim they grabbed her, taped
her face and eyes, threw her in the char and
took her to a remote field twenty miles away. They
ripped her clothes, sexually assaulted her with an object, and
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left her partially naked and tied to a pole.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
I think about them raping this little girl, they said,
with an object. We know it to be a stick
because the girlfriend, one of the dad all to herself. Guys,
take a listen to our cut tea.
Speaker 11 (40:26):
In ABC, much of the testimony Monday morning focused on
cell phones, starting with one Garcia's phone was taken as evidence.
Speaker 12 (40:33):
She was not happy, raising her voice demanding her phone back,
and ultimately she ended up storming out of the front
doors of the lobby.
Speaker 11 (40:41):
A digital forensic expert spoke directly to the jury at
times to explain what investigators do when they pull data
from a.
Speaker 18 (40:48):
Phone to re investigating the text message or phone numbers
a person call. So we go through and we look
for those that data or that evidence, and then once
we find that evidence, we're looking for we can extract
a tweet report.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
When you hear the reporter talking about someone storming out,
that was the defendant, Garcia, the girlfriend. She was angry
when police wanted to look at her phone. And now
we know why this is happening right now in a courtroom.
And if this woman and her cohorts are convicted, they
just bought a one way ticket to hell. We wait
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as justice unfolds. Goodbye friend,
Crime Stories with Nancy Greece. A thirteen year old little
girl on her way to school gets kidnapped by strangers,
taken out to a field, forced in a car, taken
out to a field a remote and isolated feel beaten
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horribly and sex assaulted with a stick as she's tied
to a tree and left there completely bloody and bruised
and trying to make sense of what has just happened
to her. They leave her there tied to a tree.
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Why I think I know, Nancy Grace, this is Crime Stories.
Thank you for being with us here at Fox Nation
and Serious XEM one eleven and let's kick it off
with our friends at KFSN.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
It seemed like a normal day Tuesday in this nice
neighborhood in the Academy area. The thirteen year old girl
got off the bus and walked about a quarter of
a mile to her home when she was confronted by
masked men.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
She had arrived home in the area of Shepherd and
Academy when she walked up near her front door. That's
when she had a couple of young men approach her
and said, come.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
With us, the little girl on our way home from school.
That was mass Awkwards on our way home from school,
and these people were waiting near her home. These male assailants,
adult males. Had they been stalking there? Had they had
they been watching her to know when she would get
off the bus?
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Listen from what we've been able to piece together, the
girl was thrown into the trunk of a car driven
up a windy mountain road for about thirty miles. Then
her captors drug her up this mountain trail and tied
her to a tree, then beat her. Despite all that,
she managed to get herself free and hike to a
nearby house, where the folks who were there said she
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appeared bloody and bruised.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
She walked up and she was all bloodied up and
said she got kidnapped. And so we went and got
a phone to call nine one one.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
The poor little girl, just thirteen years old, manages to
struggle loose from the ropes tying her to a tree.
This child kidnapped after getting off the school bus by
adult males stuffed in a car driven to a remote field.
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This thing was very well planned, wasn't it. There she
was beaten, horribly beaten. Can you imagine beating a little
thirteen year old girl in her face, all across her body,
beating her while she's tied to a tree, and then
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raping this little girl with a stick. You know, grown
women never get over trauma like this. They go on.
I've dealt with so many rape victims. They go on.
They try to raise their children, they try to have
a normal relationship with their husband, they try to go
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to work, but it never goes away. What about if
this happens to a little girl. Now, this is something
no prosecutor is allowed to do with the jury. You
are never taught you are the law is. You cannot
put the jarrars in the shoes of the victim, Like
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what if this was you? But think about it, what
if this was you? Or even worse, what if this
was your little girl? Just think about it. Praise the Lord.
This child is alive. This little girl, I'm not her name,
but what she endured? And now I want to find
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out who, what, where, why and when? Guys? Did you
notice when you hear all of the news and read
all the articles about this case, everyone talks about what
a nice neighborhood it was, that nobody saw that coming,
you know, with me Ron Bateman for and Arundel County
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Sheriff in Homicide, Undercover Narcotics. You can find now at
Ronbatemanbooks dot com. Ron. Why is everyone so shocked when
a crime happens and they quote nice neighborhood?
Speaker 6 (04:42):
People just don't realize that bad things happen in nice neighborhoods,
but they do.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
And you know what I found out Ron Ron Bateman
joining former and Arundeld County sheriff. You know, the richer
people are, the more wealthy they are, the more miserable
they are. I don't know if that's everyone's analysis, but
Deal Carson joining me, high profile lawyer out of the
Jacksonville jurisdiction, former FBI, former police officer in Miami Dade,
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never a lack of business there, and author of Arrest
Proof Yourself. You can find them at del Carson Law Dell.
When people say it's such a nice neighborhood, well, crime
happens everywhere. I remember trying cases in inner City Atlanta,
and we would have jurors from all over Fulton County,
Metropolitan Atlanta, and I'm talking about rich people up from
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North Atlanta that lived by the country club. They would
come into inner city Atlanta for these trials and they
were like blown away. Hey, this is just about three
miles from where you live, people, and it happens in
your neighborhood too, But everyone always makes such a big
deal that this was such a beautiful neighborhood and like
nothing could ever happen there.
Speaker 6 (05:51):
Crime is not a respector of persons. And when people
have money, people know this. And that's a driving force
because a lot of people get money in ways that
aggravate other people, so they put themselves unknowingly, unwittingly at risk.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
That's interesting what you just said, guys. I'm talking about
this little thirteen year old girl that is, and there's
no doubt that this happened in my mind anyway, this
little girl getting off the bus, walking to her home
and as they say, a really nice upscale neighborhood, when
she is suddenly attacked by unknown assailants. How did that happen?
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They bundle her in a car and wait till you
hear what kind of car it is, take her off
to a remote field. How do they know to get
in that remote field from her house? Where they beat
the little girl, stripp her, beat her and rape her
with a stick leaver tied to a tree. Listen to ABC.
Speaker 5 (06:56):
Thirty and she was scared. She just wanted to call
her dad, but so we called nine one one.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
And how badly hurt were she?
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Her face was all.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
Bruised up, and then she said she got punched and
her lips were all bloody.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
The residents of the house on the Cold Springs ranch
where the girl sought help did not want to be identified.
They told us the girl told them four men took
her and threatened to kill her family if she told anybody.
The suspects are described as four young men of medium
build driving a silver late nineties model BMW.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
A silver BMW, four men who threatened to kill her family.
M let's take a listen to some more.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
The girl's neighbor was shocked, but so glad the child survived.
Speaker 7 (07:42):
A few neighbors and I were actually praying for the
family and just relieved that the story didn't end in
a much more tragic way.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
Now the sheriff's apartment is still searching for a motive.
The girl's father is a local business executive.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Again, neighbors say they were a lovely family. Didn't believe
they would.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Have had any okay, joining me in all star paneling
to make sense of what we know right now. In
addition to Ron Bateman and Del Carson, doctor Jory Crawls,
and Rachel Fisher, Todd Shipley, and now to Alexis Tereschuk
climboonline dot Com investigative reporter. Alexis tell me, I want
to ask specifically about how the child was kidnapped between
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the school bus and home.
Speaker 7 (08:21):
So she was the bus drop drop at about three
twenty pm. She walks about a quarter of a mile home.
Here's the thing. She usually walks with her younger sister
from home from the bus to her house. But her
little sister was not feeling well that day, so she
did not go to school. So she was alone, which
is very unusual. This is not her normal pattern. So
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she gets off the bus, she walks to the front.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Door, right, did you say a quarter of a mile?
Speaker 7 (08:48):
About a quarter of a mile?
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Yeah, okay, that's not far at all. That's max maximum
five minutes, maybe four, maybe three exactly. Let's just go
with five minutes. She's got a five minute walk. You know,
in elementary school, we would ride the bus to school, Alexis,
but our home was so close to the public school
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that we would walk home every day. It is one
mile and we'd be home in eleven twelve minutes we
were children, skipping, running, walking, we'd get home, I don't know,
twelve minutes or so. So she can't be over five
minutes from home. Broad day light, broad day light, upscale neighborhood.
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Where exactly is this? I mean, I know it's Clovis, California,
But where is Clovis, California.
Speaker 7 (09:38):
Clovis, California is basically in the middle of the state
of California. It is about two hundred miles from San Francisco,
about three hundred miles from Los Angeles, in the kind
of the middle of the state. It's a beautiful area
and if you look, you know they've sort of given
the area of where she lives and they called them
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the Hills. This is a beautiful neighborhood with homes that
are huge, huge property, swimming pools, three car garages, you know,
two and a half acre lots. So for her to
walk the school bus with two out Baker's I mean,
she might have just walked by two houses just to
get home, just trying to.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Drink in everything you're saying. Time stories with Nancy gracelsus
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Terreschuk is joining me from this jurisdiction. I'm just imagining
all that now. I noticed she wanted to call her dad.
She say call my w one. She didn't say call MO.
She wanted to call her dad. She lived with her father. Correct,
her and her sister. She and her sister.
Speaker 7 (10:56):
Yes, she is about two years older than her younger
sister and she with her dad.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Well, what does he do for a living.
Speaker 7 (11:02):
He is an executive with a business company and he's
actually he was Swedish.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Well, he's Swedish or the company is Swedish.
Speaker 7 (11:11):
He is Swedish, and their mom is Swedish. But he
lives with the girls in the United said. They are
American citizens.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Okay, I understand the mom at that time was living
out of the country, so she's at that moment with
the dad. The two girls are with daddy. He's Swedish
and he works with the company that requires him to
travel a lot. He's a high powered executive. I imagine you'd
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have to be to live in a house like that, right, Yes.
Speaker 7 (11:39):
He was very high up in the company and they
lived in a almost a six thousand square foot house,
five bedrooms, four bathrooms, a beautiful area here.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
And you know another thing about this is a very
small population for that area of land. There's about one
hundred thousand people there. Interesting, interesting, Del Carson. When you
have so few people spread one hundred thousand people spread
out out of a huge area, you would expect a
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lower crime rate, and certainly not a violent crime like
this on a thirteen year old little girl.
Speaker 6 (12:17):
Well, it's evident they had a plan and they knew
a lot of information.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
It does seem well planned to me, Del Carson. I
agree with you because in this big, sprawling area where
a lot's two and a half acres and she's, as
Alexis said, probably like two houses from the bus stop,
what were they watching the butt stop? How did they
know one little girl was going to get off by herself?
Or was the plan like libbyan abbey in Delphi, to
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two little girls? But that's really rare, wouldn't you agree,
Ron Bateman, for two little girls to be attacked that
it does it's usually one victim. Wouldn't you agree with that?
Speaker 6 (12:57):
Yes? I would?
Speaker 1 (12:58):
So what led up to this little girl getting kidnapped
and raped and beaten, managing to break away from being
tied to a tree and get to a neighbor's home,
just literally dripping in blood on her face, her torso,
her legs were dripping in blood. Yet blood all over
her beaten scratched. As a matter of fact, we have
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a description of the little girl's external injuries. Take a
listen to Kfson. She had readness and scratch marks.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
On her back.
Speaker 8 (13:31):
Dozens of photos showed scratching on the then thirteen year
old's face and back. Other photos too explicit for Action
News to share, suggested she was bleeding near her legs.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Think about what this child has been through. Joining me.
Rachel Fisher, forensic nurse expert, a saying sex assault nurse examiner,
also expert witness, private investigator with Forensic Nursing Consulting and
Education LC. You can find her at Legal are In
consult dot org. Rachel. That is a textbook description of
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a child rape victim.
Speaker 9 (14:08):
Unfortunately it is and that when a child comes to
the hospitals or something like this. You just heard them
talk about photos. We have to have them tell us
every bit of what happened and then ask them to
get undressed so we can photograph all these things that
just happen and look all over their body and re
exploit them and what it feels like.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
It does feel like that to them, it does. It's horrible.
I've spoken to so many rape victims who can't adult
rape victims who can articulate the rape kn't exam It's
awful to have to endure and you're there at such
a horrible, probably the worst moment in your life, and
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then to go through that. That's what this little girl
obviously had.
Speaker 10 (14:52):
To go through.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
But I want to circle back to what made this
day any different from every other day? Take a list.
Speaker 11 (15:00):
At ABC thirty, the victim's younger sister was asked about
the morning of the crime. She said her father was
out of town for work that morning, and she remembers
her sister being unable to find her cell phone before
leaving for school.
Speaker 12 (15:13):
I felt like the home dynamic got worse when he
was gone. I think she was stressed because she was
going to school and she couldn't find her phone.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Joining me right now, Doctor Jury Crawls in psychologist's former
law enforcement now faculty at Saint Leo University and consultant
with the Blue Wall Institute. You can find him a
doctor jury dot com and he's the author of Operation SOS.
Doctor Jury. Thanks for being with us, doctor Jury. You know,
when the twins were little, and they would be horrible
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little creatures, they would get time out. A spanking didn't work.
I spanked Lucy twice through her big fat diaper and
she just looked at me like that was it. So
spankings do not work. I do time out. That would work,
but now it doesn't work. Time out means nothing. They
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love being in their room by theirselves. What does work
is if you take away their phone. All my stars,
even for thirty minutes, it's like all hl broke loose.
So here's the little girl trying to go to school,
and my twins when I take them to school, they've
got their backpack. Of course, Lucy takes her own organic lunch.
She has her lunch, and they have their phones. They
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don't go anywhere without their phones. I mean, really, does
anybody on this panel go anywhere without their phone. No,
So the little girl was upset because this day, of
all other days, she couldn't find her phone. Explain the attachment,
doctor Jory.
Speaker 13 (16:42):
The phone is like a self identity we connect to
and especially with her, you see there's a close relationship
with their father in that phone. Was that contact with
her father at any time? I would imagine it would
kind of give her some self confidence and as a security,
being able to any time during the day in school
(17:04):
to reach out to her father because she traveled a lot,
but it appeared like they were very close and they
kept in close contact with that phone, So not being
able to locate it before she went to school would
definitely be a very stressful situation and create a lot
of anxiety in her and probably disrupted a lot of
her daily planning.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
You know what I was thinking about. I was thinking
about how teens or she just thirteen years old, had
just turned thirteen. I might add, they love to be
in touch with their friends. They love to look at TikTok.
They they're into snapping each other. But what you just
said really hit home, Doctor Jory. With the father, the
mother lives out of the country at that time, she did,
(17:47):
and the father had to travel a lot. The two
little girls or US citizens, they were born here. That's
her only contact with her parents that she can call,
and he's out of town. I didn't think about it
that way. You're right, So she was very upset that
(18:08):
morning because she couldn't find her.
Speaker 13 (18:10):
Phone, And a lot of with the phone is you know,
we'd use it for calls, but a lot of with
the kids. And I do this with my grandchildren when
I travel. This just send them text messages, you know,
or send them you know, you can chat with them
real quick, and that kind of that contact, you know,
is very supportive and very secure feeling for the child.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
You know, the way that you said that, I hate
to travel away from the twins, but if they before
they were born, I mean I would go and stay
for three four months. I remember I was a Scott
Peterson troll. Think four months, I can't remember now, and
that was just fine. But now I hate being gone
even one night, and we FaceTime and we text the
(18:52):
whole shebang. You know, I'm accused of calling every night
during dinner, during supper, but so be it. I'm just
thinking about the connection she had with her dad, plus
the teen identity of your phone. So that morning she's upset.
The sister says she was upset. The dynamic was worse
when the dad was gone. But what does the little
(19:13):
girl herself say?
Speaker 14 (19:15):
Listen, they took yellow rope and taped my arms by
my back, and then they walked me to the driveway
by our guesthouse and shoved me in the trunk.
Speaker 8 (19:26):
As his daughter walked home from the school bus stop,
men approached her.
Speaker 14 (19:29):
They were wearing all black and masks so I couldn't
see their faces. They took tape, very thin tape, like
kind of scrap booking tape, and put it around my lips.
Speaker 6 (19:44):
And my eyes.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Let's examine what we have just learned from the little
girl herself. They the kidnappers. The rapist took yellow rope
and taped my arms behind my back. They walked me
to the driveway by our guest house and shoved me
in the trunk by the guest house. Weren't they afraid
somebody in the house may see what was happening right outside?
(20:09):
Shoved her in the trunk of a BMW, a silver BMW.
They had masks on, and they were all dressed up
ninja style, all black. In the middle of the day.
It's three twenty. She's coming home from school, and they
had thin tape to put over her lips and eyes. Okay,
(20:31):
let's think this thing through. Dale Carson, You're right, this
was orchestrated and this was prepared. They're dressed like ninjas.
Remember when Jody Arias said I didn't kill Travis. Three
guys dressed as ninjas came in, Right, somebody's been watching
way too much TV. These guys dressed like ninjas. They're
(20:54):
wearing masks. They brought yellow rope and tape with them.
Speaker 6 (20:59):
The first investigative clue that they were masked. That tells
you something about the character of the relationship between the
abductors and the child.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
What what does it tell me that they're known known
or yes, known, don't want to be identified, don't want
their face to appear on camera. Don't you see all
those people running in and out of Nordstroms and all
those high priced Lululemon, you name it. They all are
wearing hoodies or their COVID masks so they don't get identified.
(21:32):
And I guarantee that Clark doesn't know those people. But
that said, you may be right, maybe she could identify them.
Maybe they just didn't want to be caught on surveillance
cameras around that five bedroom However, many bath home on
a two and a half acre plot.
Speaker 6 (21:47):
What you say is true, though, if anybody else were
in the house. It's odd that they didn't. They didn't know.
How could they know nobody else was in the house.
How's that possible?
Speaker 1 (21:59):
So Alexis tout. What Tail Carson and I are talking
about is the fact that they're doing this basically in
the front yard. They're getting her on her walk from
the school bus stop to her home, which we think
is about three minutes. You walk past two of these big,
huge mansions, you get to her home, and then they
take her beside her home. They have to go buy
(22:19):
the home to get to the guest house in the
back I guess by a pool, and there they bundled
her into a silver BMW and Jova. They weren't worried
that somebody in the house might see her, or did
they know the father was out of town. Had they
been watching the home, would anyone else have been there?
Speaker 7 (22:40):
Alexis normally her little sister would have been there with her,
but she first of all, she always had her phone,
she could not find it that day missing, and then
her sister, formerly goes to school, was not fealing well
that day. So what happened was her dad has a
girlfriend who is living with the family, and the girlfriend
(23:02):
took the little sister called her dad and said, Daddy,
I don't feel well. I don't want to go to
school today. He said, okay, stayed home. The girlfriend made
the little sister go with her to her own doctor's appointment.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Okay, wait, so there's a girlfriend in the house. There's
a living girlfriend.
Speaker 7 (23:18):
There is daddy has a girlfriend.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Okay, daddy's got a girlfriend. She's living in the house.
And that morning when the thirteen year old victim lost
her phone, the sister, the little sister didn't feel well,
but the girlfriend wouldn't let the little sister stay home
alone and had the little sister go with girlfriend to
girlfriend's doctor's appointment. Is that right?
Speaker 7 (23:40):
That's exactly right?
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Okay, but how did the assailants think that no one
would be in the home looking out at them going
by with this little girl and their mask on and
their ninja suits. Who's the girlfriend? Let's STAYBC thirty.
Speaker 15 (23:56):
Sandra Garcia lived the good life when she dated a wealthy,
Sweatyddish businessman.
Speaker 8 (24:00):
Johann gets It was in a relationship with Sandra Garcia.
The two met online, and Garcia eventually moved in to
get Set's Clovis home with two of her sons.
Speaker 15 (24:09):
She and her four boys moved into the boyfriend's Clovis home,
but as a number of people in the home, groom
sort of the tension. The man asked Garcia to move out,
and that's when she started plotting how to stay. She
tried and failed to set him up for a dui
and a falsely accused him of domestic violence.
Speaker 14 (24:27):
Yes, I asked her to move out in January of
twenty sixteen, correct, in.
Speaker 10 (24:31):
The eight of thirty days, right, yes.
Speaker 8 (24:33):
Weeks later, that tension came to a head when Getzet
was away on a business trip.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Okay, I've got to digest everything that I just heard.
So he's got a live in girlfriend and she has
somehow ended in a pot of honey with this wealthy
Swedish business exec who lives with his two little girls.
The wife's side of the picture. So like's a treasure.
Let me understand this. She lands in a pot of honey.
She moves in with this wealthy Swedish businessman who lives
(25:00):
along with his two girls, and she brings along her
two sons. Now they're in their early twenties.
Speaker 7 (25:09):
Right, yes they are.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
I wonder how that messed with the two girls. Well,
it didn't mesh because there was too much tension, and ultimately,
after a period of time, the dad says, you got
to go. You and your family are not getting along
with my two little girls. Now, what did I hear
(25:30):
that she tried to make to frame him for a
DUI or a false domestic violence report.
Speaker 7 (25:40):
Yes, that is what he has said. He said that
this relationship had gone so badly he wanted her out,
and instead of just moving, she came up with these
crazy plans. She tried to save the DUI. She falsely
claimed that he had abused her a domestic abuse situation
since she was his living girlfriend, none of which which
was true.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
You know, I need to go to our shrink doctor,
Joey crawlsin. When somebody tells you to move out of
their home, I would move out. I wouldn't want to
be there. But instead, according to reports, she tries to
hatch up a fake domestic violence report and a duy.
How is that helping her?
Speaker 13 (26:16):
Well, it's trying to establish more control over that environment
and over him. She must have seen where you know,
passed things like you through you know, a sexual activity
with him. Isn't kind of controlling him and getting what
she wants. She probably looked at and saw the dynamics
of the family and how close he was to his daughters,
(26:40):
and that was a point of conflict with her and
her older sons. I mean, like say, they were in
their twenties, so I could see the conflict rising in
that environment, and the father just putting his foot down saying, look,
you gotta go.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
No Carson jump in.
Speaker 6 (26:55):
Yeah, what she saw in the house while she was
there rummaging around his bank statement.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Deal, Carson, I believe you're right. And I'm also wondering
why that day, of all days, did the little girl's
cell phone go missing, obviously in my mind, so she
couldn't be tracked. As detectives try their best to unravel
what happened to this little girl, the plot has thickened.
(27:22):
Take a listen to k FSN.
Speaker 12 (27:23):
Towards like the end of twenty fifteen. He felt like,
we weren't really happy in the relationship that they were having,
so that's why it ended. Were you unhappy with the
relationship that they were having at the end of.
Speaker 11 (27:36):
Twenty fifteen, yes, prosecutor say Garcia orchestrated the kidnapping after
Johann gets set evicted her from his clothes home.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
So let me understand this. The detective's theory is that
the living girlfriend plotted the attack on a thirteen year
old little girl just turned thirteen. How was that supposed
to help her and her relationship with the wealthy father.
I don't understand this, but I can tell you one
(28:05):
thing I believe very firmly. Todd Shipley is going to
help me figure it out. Todd G. Shipley, Certified fraud Examiner,
author of Investigating Internet Crimes and Introduction to Solving Crimes
in Cyberspace. You can find them at Darkintel dot info.
Todd Shipley. The cell phones and the nav data and
(28:27):
the car navigation data and more surveillance video, these burglar
systems and various homes they would have been driving, by
redlight cams, you name it. All of that digital memory
is going to be used to prove this case. And
who did it? Explain?
Speaker 10 (28:48):
Well? I think, as you already stated, there's so much
digital evidence in this that it's going to be hard
for anybody to say that they weren't parts of the crime.
I know we've already mentioned the girlfriend, her phone, is
going to be critical in this is it's going to
show her part of the conspiracy and what she did
to set it up in the contact with the other
people involved, their sons, and you know, there's so much
(29:10):
data it's going to be showing where their phones went to,
the sons, tracking right to the location that the crime occurred.
And that's probably why the phone was missing. And I
don't haven't seen his entered as evidence yet, but the
mother probably took the phone, so the girl didn't have
her phone, so she couldn't be tracked. And because the
(29:30):
phones today have so much data about what we do
and where we go, that it's hard not to show
in court exactly what a person does from minute to
minute using that information.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
This is daddy's living, not the girl's mother. But you're
absolutely correct. I think that is why the little girl's
phone went missing that morning, and why the little girl,
no matter how hard she tried, she retracing her steps,
getting agitated, getting upset. Her one way to connect with
her father is gone. Before she went to school that morning.
(30:03):
I can tell you both of my children know exactly
where their phone is overnight. So she wakes up in
the morning and the phone's gone, probably charging near her
bed somewhere. Of course, any adult would smell a rap
with this little girl just didn't know what to think.
And that's exactly why what todd Shipley has just told you.
And let me ask you this, todd Shipley, how does
(30:24):
a NAV system and a cart work?
Speaker 10 (30:26):
Well, the vehicles systems are just like your phones, and
so it's basically the same kind of set up. A
lot of them are Android based systems, so the data
that's in there is going to be the same as
that's on your phone. It's a little more difficult to
get to, but still is accessible and can track a
person exactly the same way that your phone can. The
(30:49):
problem with the NAV system is I can leave the
phone at home and it won't track me. The NAB
system's on and you don't have any control over what
it collects. And that's the problem that they're going to
have with his data is they had no control. They
can't turn it off.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Speaking of leaving a digital trail a mile wide, take
osten our friend coryin Hoggard at k f.
Speaker 16 (31:11):
CEN detective have connected the dots now in a troubling
kidnapping the shriff says the mastermind was no stranger to
the young victim or her family. Deputy's arrested forty year
old Sandra Garcia on charges of conspiracy to commit kidnapping.
They believe she is the alleged ringleader who orchestrated the crime.
Speaker 15 (31:31):
They say Garcia revealed her final plan in recorded phone
call with her cousin Miguel Carriedo. She asked him if
he knew corrupted people told Carriedo there's no security at
the house, and directed him and friends to kidnap her
boyfriend's thirteen year old daughter on a day when Garcia
scheduled a doctor's appointment for herself.
Speaker 12 (31:50):
It's pretty revealing that this case had been pre planned,
had been worked out where this Garcia would have an alibi.
Speaker 17 (31:59):
He's a business executive who happened to be out of
town the day of the kidnapping. Sandra was one of
the very few who knew. I was out of town
with a coworker for that day, and I noticed after
the detective spoke to her, she was uncomfortable around my daughter.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Uncomfortable around the daughter. I guess she was. If these
claims are true, she just set up the daughter being kidnapped, raped,
beaten til she was bloody, blood all over her legs.
I guess she was uncomfortable around not only the sister,
but the little girl herself. Time stories with Nancy Grace
(32:54):
that I hear Alexis Tereschuk that there was a recorded
phone call with a girlfriend's cousin Miguil, asking him if
he knew quote corrupted people and telling Coarto Miguil Cardo
that there was no security in the home and directed
his friends to kidnap the teen girl on a day
(33:15):
when the when when the dad was out of town
and she would make a doctor's appointment for herself. She
didn't count on the little sister feeling ill that day
and having to take the sister with her to the doctor.
But she managed to iron that wrinkle out, didn't she?
She did.
Speaker 7 (33:31):
She took a little girl to appointment. Here's the thing, though,
they get home from the doctor's aployment, the sister is
not home from school and her little sister is panning.
She says, where's my sister. We can't find her anywhere.
The girlfriend is not looking for her. She's not worried.
Speaker 10 (33:47):
She came.
Speaker 7 (33:48):
She's sitting on the sofa on her own phone, completely
ignoring the situation. So the little sister knew two things.
One my sister is missing, and two, my dad's girlfriend
is not worried about her at all, and that was
very concerning to her. She knew right away, eleven years old,
she knew right away that this lady was that something
was really wrong with the way that she was handling
(34:08):
the whole situation.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
So what to say, eleven year old little sister say
about how the girlfriend was acting when the thirteen year
old I don't want to use their names, when the
thirteen year old was missing.
Speaker 7 (34:20):
She said she didn't seem concerned at all. She wasn't
looking for her. She didn't look anywhere in the house. Again,
the house is big, there's the main house, there's the
guest house that she used property. She wasn't looking anywhere
for her. She wasn't making any phone calls, she wasn't
doing anything. She was just sitting on the sofa, playing
on her own phone.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
From my understanding, the girlfriend the living was just sitting
on the sofa while the eleven year old little sister
was getting more and more frantic about her sister never
coming home from school. The motive that we have gleaned
is that the girlfriend Garcia, wanted the dad all to herself.
She wanted all that money, and she wanted to scare
(35:02):
the two daughters eleven at that time, ten ten and
thirteen so severely that they would want to return to
their mother, who's living in Sweden. That was the plan
to scare the little girls so badly they would go
home to Sweden with their mom, and the girlfriend could
(35:23):
have the dad all to herself. Doctor Joy Crasen, This
sounds like the evil stepmother for real.
Speaker 13 (35:33):
Yeah, think about how simplistic that plan appeared to her.
I mean, we'll just scare her because the girl, the victim,
was told don't tell anybody, or we'll come back on
your family. So thinking that she would just go back
and you know, maybe contact her mother. Now, think about
a mother learning about her daughter being taken away like that,
(35:54):
she would jump in and say you're coming home. So
that's the simple plan that this living girl friend seemed
to have orchestrated.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
Let me tell you what I've learned. After the girlfriend
to live in gets home with the little ten year
old sister, the sister realizes it's after four o'clock that
the thirteen year old isn't home. The little one starts
calling all of her older sister's friends trying to find
out what happened to her. She talks to the girlfriend
(36:23):
trying to get help. The girlfriend says, Oh, she'll be
home soon, don't worry about it. The little ten year
old girl says the girlfriend was quote really calm and
acted like nothing was wrong, and that it made the
little sister quote sick to my stomach. When asked what
(36:44):
the girlfriend was doing during all this, was she doing
anything to find the little girl, the sister says, no,
she was just sitting on the couch talking on her
phone like nothing was wrong. He is probably talking to
the kidnappers that she orchestrated to kidnap, beat and rpe
(37:06):
a thirteen year old little girl. Okay, guys, yeah, take
a listen to our friends at ABC thirty.
Speaker 17 (37:14):
Our restraining order just granted describes the relationship between Garcia
and her now ex boyfriend. He wrote, our backgrounds were
different and there were difficulties at times, and I thought
it was best for Sandra to move out after he
gave her a date to leave. His daughter was kidnapped
in a movie type plot.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Investigators say the.
Speaker 17 (37:33):
Thirteen year old stepped off her school bus last month
to find the suspects were waiting at her doorstep. Sheriff
Mim says the girl was forced into the trunk of
the car and driven to a remote location where she
was tied up, beaten, and kicked.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Am Or and Our cut twenty two from Corn Haggard.
Speaker 15 (37:50):
The school bus dropped off a thirteen year old girl
at her home north of Clovis in February. The girl's
dad wasn't home, but four masked men were waiting for
They put her on trunk of a car, took her
to a remote field, stripped her, feed her and left
her alone to Investigators revealed the plan was hatched about
a week earlier. Garcia and the girl's father were dating,
(38:12):
but on the outs. Garcia thought the kidnapping could bring
them closer together and keep her in the lifestyle she'd
been living.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
Bring them closer together.
Speaker 15 (38:21):
Here's more, Garcia enlisted the help of her cousin and
her son to try to put a scare into that
thirteen year old girl and get her sent away from Fresno.
In her father's home, they used aps to try to
cover up their footsteps electronically, but they still left the
trail and investigators followed it. She asked her cousin and
her son for help. Ins said it'd be easy because
(38:43):
the home had no security. Investigators say Garcia used a
burner rap when she discussed the plot, trying to communicate
on her phone in secret, but detectives traced all the
calls and once they connected her to Cariato, they realized
he owned a car matching the one used by the kidnappers.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
Taji Shipley. Using the burner phone app did anything but
help her. That can be trice explain. What is a
burner phone app.
Speaker 10 (39:12):
There's the ability on your phones to download another application
that gives you a second number on your phone, or
more numbers. And she thought that that was going to
prevent the police from identified who she was. But the
app is registered to your phone, and you register almost
always with the email address or some other identifying information
(39:33):
to that app, and so it was easily traced back
to her. It didn't protect her at all.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
You're so right about that. Take a listen now to
more of the facts we are learning.
Speaker 15 (39:43):
The indictment says Garcia hid the girl's phone that day.
It says one of her sons, Mark Anthony Roque, laden
wait with Carto inside the home until the girl got
back from school. Court documents claim they grabbed her, taped
her face and eyes, threw her in the char and
took her to a remote field twenty miles away. They
ripped her clothes, sexually assaulted her with an object, and
(40:06):
left her partially naked and tied to a pole.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
I think about them raping this little girl, they said,
with an object. We know it to be a stick
because the girlfriend, one of the dad all to herself. Guys,
take a listen to our cut tea.
Speaker 11 (40:26):
In ABC, much of the testimony Monday morning focused on
cell phones, starting with one Garcia's phone was taken as evidence.
Speaker 12 (40:33):
She was not happy, raising her voice demanding her phone back,
and ultimately she ended up storming out of the front
doors of the lobby.
Speaker 11 (40:41):
A digital forensic expert spoke directly to the jury at
times to explain what investigators do when they pull data
from a.
Speaker 18 (40:48):
Phone to re investigating the text message or phone numbers
a person call. So we go through and we look
for those that data or that evidence, and then once
we find that evidence, we're looking for we can extract
a tweet report.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
When you hear the reporter talking about someone storming out,
that was the defendant, Garcia, the girlfriend. She was angry
when police wanted to look at her phone. And now
we know why this is happening right now in a courtroom.
And if this woman and her cohorts are convicted, they
just bought a one way ticket to hell. We wait
(41:24):
as justice unfolds. Goodbye friend,
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