July 12, 2024 • 40 mins
Jack O'Kelley is a stand-out athlete throughout his youth and into high school, where he letters all four years in Lacrosse and football. He's also a member of the National English Honor Society.
Thanksgiving morning, Jack's family gets ready to celebrate the holiday, his dad calls Jack to come home. No answer. He calls the family friends where Jack spent the night. The parents invite Jack's father to come over, the boys are still asleep. So he drives over and a few minutes later, the dad calls his wife in a panic. Jack is dead.
An autopsy finds that Jack had overdosed. Mother Angela King thinks her son, Jack O'Kelley, swallowed what he believed was a Xanax pill, not knowing it is counterfeit and contained a deadly amount of Fentanyl.
This is just one of multiple tragic stories involving fentanyl.
Joining Nancy Grace Today:
- Angela King - Mother of Jack O'Kelley
- Ray Giudice - Criminal Defense Attorney in Atlanta; X: @raygiudice
- Tom Smith - Former NYPD Detective, Co-Host of the GOLD SHIELDS Podcast/FB & Instagram: @thegoldshieldshow
- Dr. William Morrone – Chief Medical Examiner, Bay County, Michigan; Author: “American Narcan: Naloxone & Heroin-Fentanyl Associated Mortality”
- Dave Mack - Crime Online Investigative Reporter
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. A mother's heartbreak. Her young
son found cold blue. He dies from one fake pill.
One pill and he's dead. Why, good evening. I'mancy Grace.
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This is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us.
The fentanyl epidemic is striking at the hearts of families
across the country. Counterfeit pills laced with the lethal narcotic
leading to overdoses. Now families are fighting back fentanyl, Fentanyl
rising amongst the ranks of other deadly drugs to strike
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fear and the hearts of parents all across our country.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Tonight, I've got.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
So many cases of young children, teens, even infants dead
from an unlikely encounter with sentinel.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Just one pill kills and when you.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Look at it, you don't even know what it is. Again,
this is Crime Stories, and I thank you for being
with us. With me an all star panel, but I'm
first starting with a mom who was suffering heartbreak after her.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Boy is dead from one pill.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Just a bright, beautiful, shining boy now dead.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Listen, Jack's gone, Jacks Gone.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
I rushed over.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
And when I arrived at police and the empt were there.
My husband had worked on him for thirty minutes and
he's told me his fingers were blue.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
He was already called.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
The and he worked on him for an hour.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
You are hearing Jack o'kelly's mother, Angela speaking out, Angela
King with me as I said an all star panel.
But first to Angela King, Miss King, thank you for
being with us. And I do not like making a
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crime victim relive what happened. But Miss King, there are
literally millions of people that will hear your voice, who
are suffering as you and your husband have suffered. What
happened the day that Jack died.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Well, the night before Thanksgiving, Jack could come home as
all of our other children did from college, and he
went out with a group of friends, celebrating seeing everyone
they went out. He sent the night out at a
friend's house, and the next morning we were getting ready
for Thanksgiving and Jack wasn't answering the phone. So my
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husband called the parents and they said, oh, we just
checked on them. The boys are all still sleeping. We've
got out for a walk. Come on over.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
The front doors unlocked.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
So he drove over literally right across around the corner
from us, and Jack was unresponsive. The other boys were
not aware of that. His fingers were blue, and he
was already gone. My husband worked frantically on him for
thirty minutes while the ants came. We all went over
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to the house and the ants worked on him for
an hour, but we knew he was gone. The most
horrific day of our lives.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
It's unimaginable, yes, exactly.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
And the one pill that he thinks is is an
ex or a valium, is actually laced with deadly fentinel.
You know, you are hearing a loving mother who is
now living through the worst time, the darkest time of
her life. And I noticed that you're doing what I
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did when my fiance was murdered, and still do. I
can't say he's dead for years. All I could say
is he's gone. And I'm not sure why that's true,
but it is.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Guys.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
What happened that morning, the morning that Angela is describing, Listen.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
We woke up Thanksgiving morning, ready to celebrate one of
Jack's favorite holidays. My husband started calling Jack in the
morning to come home to get ready, and Jack didn't
answer this phone. He called the parents and they said, oh,
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we just looked in and all the boys are still sleeping.
Come on over, We're going for a walk at the park.
The front doors open, just come on over. So he
drove over and a few minutes later he called me
in a complete panic.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
A complete panic with me an all star panel.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
But I want to go to a veteran.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Trial lawyer joining us a criminal defense attorney in Atlanta
and the jurisdiction where so much fentanyl is flooding the market.
It seems to be an endless battle. And you know,
Ray Giudice with me at rayglaw dot com. High profile
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lawyer wins a lot of cases. But when I first
started as a rookie prosecutor, Ray was on the other
side of the fence. Actually, first you were a prosecutor
and another jurisdiction. Then you became a defense attorney. And
for the longest time, you know, we were practicing against
each other. I wouldn't even mention to anyone ever. And
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this went on for the full ten years. I was
in the DA's office that my fiance had been murdered,
and I could never say dead.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
If I had to say it, it would be gone.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
You've dealt with a lot of crime victims, Ray, this
is not uncommon.
Speaker 5 (06:37):
Unfortunately, Nancy is not in my condolences to this family
of what appears to be just an absolutely wonderful young man.
We both have friends of our law school friends who
have young adults in this age bracket. You are right
about the fentanyl scourge in Fulton County, and I'm sure
the doctor can opine on this better than I can.
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But you don't need a whole pill of fentanyl. You
need a grain of fentanyl. Which is why when they
find an amount of fentanyl in somebody's apartment or car,
law enforcement will say it was enough to kill ten
thousand people. This is nuclear waste of drugs. It's so
deadly and it's so silent. It's laced in so many
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things that especially our young adults, maybe in a party situation,
maybe in a situation of being a little having a
good time, get something in their system that's laced with
fentanyl and just disastrous results.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
All of our children came over that morning. The screams,
the whales, the absolute terror, shock, fear and pain that
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we endured that morning. No parent, no sibling, no human
should ever ever have to experience. It was the most
devastating day of our lives.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Joining us.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Angela O'Kelly describing the discovery of her son Jack dead.
Her husband tried valiantly. EMTs tried valiantly, but by the
time Jack was found, they're at a sleepover with a
group of friends from school.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
They had no.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Idea that as they all lay sleeping, Jack was dying. Angela,
when did you learn the coeod cause of death.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
We didn't find out until the autopsy results, So this
came a while after he had died.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
That morning and it's Thanksgiving, you're all getting everything ready.
I guess you like me make a big turkey. We
have a turkey off where one is baked and smoked,
and we compare. I lose every year. All the family there,
everybody's running around and no Jack, No Jack, he doesn't
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show up. When you got that call from your husband,
what happened?
Speaker 3 (09:17):
I was completely devastated, of course, thinking this couldn't be happening.
This is surreal. Jack just went out with his friends
like everybody else did, and there's no way anything could
be this wrong.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
So it was so surreal but so real at the
same time.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
In that moment, were you in the kitchen, was everybody there,
was the oven on and everything's going along, and then
the harsh dichotomy, the start dichotomy of getting this call.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
It was it was earlier in the morning, but still
of course trying to get everybody ready. We have six children,
and so you know, everybody getting ready. This was Jack's
favorite holiday. And just never in a million years would
we ever ever imagine something like this happening. But you know, Nancy,
it's happening every day. It's going to continue to happen.
(10:12):
We have a serious, serious problem on our hands and
people are not talking about it. Children do not know,
These parents don't know, and I'm I'm doing everything that
I can. It's only been six months a little over
six months, but I'm committed to doing anything that I
can do to get the word out, to speak to schools, churches, communities,
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whatever I can do. We've got to start talking about
this because it's not going away. Ventyal's coming into this
country by the boatloads from Mexico, from China to Mexico
into this country with our open borders, and we have
a serious problem, and anything that I can do to
save a life, I'm willing to do. I've gotten emails
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from people whose parents have said, because you speaking out,
my child has come to me and said, you know what,
I may have a problem. I've been doing illegal you know,
I've been doing drugs and I'm addicted. Now I need
to go into rehab. So I'm hoping that I'm making
a difference and saving a life. That's what Jack wanted.
Jack left, just like it says in the Bible. Jack
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left so that we can live. And I'm committed. Really,
I don't know why this is not on the front
page of every newspaper in this country.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
Why it's not talked about.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
On the news daily. Every five minutes, somebody's dying of
fentanyl in this country. We have to start doing something
about it. We have to start talking about it. I
want to take this and do a campaign just like
Mad Mothers against drunk driving that was so impactful years ago.
That's where we are right now with fentanyl. It is
in everything. The drug dealers are putting it in every
drug and there has to be something done about it
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on a large scale.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
We have to come together and start talking.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Crime stories, with Nancy Grace, Angela King joining us. Her
son just literally scrubbed and Sunshine. He honors students so smart.
It was on the football team, loved everybody had a
huge group of friends at Uga. Loved Uga, just an
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incredible young man that you raised. You raised this little
miracle into a man, a wonderful young man just starting
his life. When you discovered what had happened, I know,
it was unbelievable. He had never had a drug or
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alcohol problem. Like so many other parents, you think everything's
just merely, we go along, it's working out, everything's fine,
and then this, what is your understanding of what happened
that night?
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Angela.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
He was with friends, having a good time, and from
our understanding, he made a fatal mistake, one that should
not have cost him his life. It was it was
a murder, It was a poisoning. This was an intentional poisoning.
That's what's happening with this fentanyl. There is accountability. Of course,
he did take a pill. Should he have not taken
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a pill? Absolutely? Was it a stupid choice? Absolutely? And
Jack knew better. Jack didn't take a pill to die.
He didn't overdose on a pill. He was poisoned. This
is something that we were shocked to hear of. And
if it's happening to Jack, it's happening all around. These
college campuses is full of rugs. Kids are passing it
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around like it's candy, and it really is. Like you said,
one pill can kill. They're play in Russian roulette. You
don't know what you're getting. He thought he was getting
his anax and clearly it had fentanyl in it.
Speaker 6 (13:58):
A twenty year old Ugas dies Thanksgiving morning after ingesting
a counterfeit Xenex pill laced with fentanyl. Jack o'kelly's mom
now on a mission to stop another family from suffering
the laws of a loved one.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Angela King is taking her battle in the name of
her son Jack Public One pill can kill? And what's
so scary? I'm throwing this out to doctor William Moroney.
Doctor Moroney has devoted himself to fighting the opioid crisis.
Not only a renowned medical examiner, a toxicologist pathologist, but
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he's an opioid treatment expert and author of American Narcian.
He has certainly put his money where his mouth and
his brains and his education are. He has created a
traveling mobile unit to fight fentanyl and other opioid deaths
and addictions. Doctor William Maroney, you don't just talk the talk,
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you walk the walk. Can you explain in regular people talk.
What Angela is describing.
Speaker 7 (15:10):
What Angela is describing is that the normal flow of
X experimentation with our children is, you know, sometimes they
grew up, they smoked a cigarette, they snuck a beer,
you know, they smoked a little bit of weed somewhere,
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well somewhere. This has gone terribly wrong, And what our
children are experimenting with is they're taking things that look
like pharmaceutical safe products, but they're fraud They're fake, and
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they're made to look this way because no teenager, no
young adult, would ever take unknown powder and inject it.
So the cartel and the drug dealers have taken narcotics
like fentanyl and methanphetamine and put it in something that
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looks just like this. Now, this whole pill may not
be solid fentanyl. It's pressed in secret places and basements
and garages and warehouses because it's not a pharmaceutical and
the amount of ventanyl that will kill in this pill.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Would fit.
Speaker 7 (16:38):
On the head.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Of a pencil.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Okay, I like it when you describe it to grains
of salt, doctor Moroni.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Yeah, you describe for me the other.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Day about the grains of salt. I was floored.
Speaker 7 (16:53):
It's three or four grains of salt. Something you almost
can't see in a spoon. If you shake it out
and put it on a burger, a dog or a
French fries, it disappears. It's so small. And this is
what's in fraudulent pills. The idea that kids can get
together and you know, maybe have a couple of beers,
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or they pass aroundbills that look good. You used to
steal those pills from your mom and dad. They didn't
come from drug dealers.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
That's all changed.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Well, you know another issue, Doctor William Roney, And let
me throw this out to Tom Smith and Raymond Judice,
and I wonder how Angela King is going to react
to this. Tom Smith, former NYPD detective, co hosts of.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Gold Shields podcasts.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Tom, Now, there's something called rainbow fentanyl. Rainbow fentanyl, and
when you look at it.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
It looks like the Smarties.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
I don't know if you had that growing up, but
they're a little round tablets and you bite them. They're
rainbow colors, purple, pink, yellow, They that's all they are.
These rainbow fentanyl pills look like Smarties. They are now
being marketed to children and teens and they look like
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a little piece of candy rainbow fentanyl.
Speaker 8 (18:12):
Yeah, and that's why it's made that way, because it's
an attraction, and it's made to attract the younger crowd.
And that's exactly why it's done. And that's the horrible
part of it. And that's where the accountability needs to
come in. That these dealers know exactly what they're doing,
they know the amount they're putting in, they know the
effects of it, and the accountability has to be raised
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now to a criminal level.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Too, Raymond Judice.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
So very often, you know, when we hear about a
drug case, there is an automatic perception amongst a lot
of people, including jurors, that oh, it's drugs, the victim
was a drug addic, they knew what they were doing.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
That is not the case here. Jack is not the
only one.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
I've got a whole full of cases where even infants
are exposed to fentyl, just fentinyl powder, and they die.
I'm about to tell you about another young girl just
nineteen who takes one pill it's laced with fentanyl. Another
girl in high school fifteen does the same before an exam.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
She dies. That's what's happening.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
And now the dope dealers are making them look like
Smarties candies that you get at the Dollar Tree.
Speaker 5 (19:29):
Look, they want to use less real drugs. This stuff
is so cheap and so easy to make in China
and North Korea, come through our borders illegally or on
shipping containers, and then it's put to accelerate a smaller
amount of a drug to get a bigger reaction. So
they're getting a twenty times x impact, except that that
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twenty times x will kill a vibert healthy young adult
or an infant in an another room. I agreed completely
with all the things that Miss King has said. I
applaud for bringing this to our attention as a community.
Speaker 7 (20:11):
You know, a crack.
Speaker 5 (20:12):
Addict has to smoke an awful lot of crack to overdose.
A heroin addict can do a lot of heroin before
they die. As the doctor pointed out, a couple of
grains assault of fentanyl in a pill that's designed to
look like a gummy bear can kill. As we point
as we see a beautiful young athlete for and it's
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just a shame, and we this has to raise to
a national level. It has to be sought in the
state Department, our military, whatever. I don't want to get political,
but I believe, I believe that this is a concerted
effort by people in other countries that hate our country
to ship this poison here.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Plus the profit motive. Oh yes, it's a huge profit.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Back to Mom Angela King, mother of Jack Angela, When
did you learn that one pill.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Killed Jack?
Speaker 1 (21:10):
A pill that I believe he got from a guy
that everybody seemed to know. You know, when somebody that
you know says here, here, here's an aspirin, here's an
active ed, here's a whatever. Fill in the blank, and
as somebody you know, and that all your friends know, you're.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Like, okay and take it. You don't look at.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
It and look it up on the internet and think, wow,
is this lace with fentanyl?
Speaker 2 (21:36):
When did you learn what had happened?
Speaker 3 (21:39):
That's right, Well, what you said is absolutely accurate. These
drugs now that are coming out. Look, you can barely
tell which is fake and which is real. You can't
afford to take anything from anyone at any age unless
it's prescribed to you from a doctor. You can't take
any pills at all. You know, we were shock to
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learn when we received the toxicology and the autopsy results
that Jack had taken a pill, and we took it
upon ourselves to work with the detectives. We hacked into
Jack's laptop, which coincidentally I'm on right now, which is
pretty interesting to do this, and researched and found the
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drug dealer actually through our investigations, looking into his Venmo accounts, etc.
And we found the drug dealer and turned all that
evidence over to the detectives to go after him.
Speaker 6 (22:38):
A fifteen year old Georgia high schooler overdoses in a
school classroom Mia diegez Selfer is a heart attack after
swallowing a fentanyl laced pill provided by another student. The
team dies sitting at her classroom desk.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
It is raging across our country and a mother still
suffering over the death of her young boy, Angela King
with us her son Jack. So what do we know
about this guy that she the mom, managed to dig
up at her son's social media listen.
Speaker 9 (23:16):
Atlanta Homicide id's Abram Rancon is the person from whom
Jack purchased what he thought was Xenix in the following
weeks and undercover makes multiple buys from Rangcon. Those buys
become PC probable cause to search Ringcon's apartment, and when
they do, they find pills, illegal hallucinogeny, mushrooms, mushroom chocolate bars,
four five hundred and fifty edibles, THHC wax from methazine
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in thirty pills moon rocks, over thirty five pounds of marijuana,
eight guns, two shotguns, rifles and pistols, and a bulletproof vest.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Jack never had a chance against this guy and worse.
Speaker 9 (23:53):
Listen to this. Abram Rancone's attorney, Jay apt says Rincon
is not guilty and is looking forward to his day
in court. Raincon has five drug sale counts pending, but
as attorney says, the drug trafficking and gun charges were dismissed.
Raincon is then released on a signature bond. Jack o'kelly's
mother is outraged Ringcone got bond, as is the Fulton
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County District Attorney's office. App said no mention of an
overdose death was made at the first appearance where these
things happened.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
What the hey?
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Abram Raancone walks free on ro r released on own recognissance.
He didn't even have to put up a bond and
to boot he's not charged with homicide, not a murder.
When he is the one dealing pills passing them off
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as valium, they're laced with deadly fentinel. No manslaughter charge,
much lessen for not a murder, but there's not a
voluntary or even an involuntary charge. Why is it that
fatal fentinel overdoses are skyrocketing across US our country, yet
there are very very few death charges. And look, I
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came from the Fulton County District Attorney's office. I love
the district Attorney's office. But what the hey, no bond
and no manslaughter charge? How can this be? Rage you
to Jay.
Speaker 5 (25:23):
Nancy, I suppose he came up for bond within ten
days of his arrest, and I don't believe the coroner's
report would have been back and got given to the
assistant district attorney in that courtroom to present to the
judge to make probable cause to make a bond for
a manslaughter or a homicide charge. That would be my belief.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Hold your horses.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
You to Jay, you said that maybe the autopsy report
for Jack wasn't back yet. Well, if I've got it
now and we all know about it, and Angela has
it they've got it.
Speaker 5 (25:57):
It wasn't there at the time of the bond application, but.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
It is now. Where are the advanced charges? You know,
the grand jury meets in Fulton County every Tuesday and Thursday,
all right, that have plenty of time to upgrade this
indictment to include a second degree involuntary manslaor what about that?
Speaker 5 (26:14):
All due respect, Nancy, you worked in a different Fulton
County District Attorney's office than that currently exists, and I'm
not going to make excuses for them, but you're right,
there's no reason that this hasn't been indicted. There's no
reason that there hasn't been a bond increase and a prosecution. Now,
there are some gaps in the law, and that's what
Miss King is working on, and that our governor just
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signed a change in the law to make these prosecutions,
I don't want to say easier, but more tools for
the prosecution to use. So I do think they'll upgrade
the charges, and I do think the Fulton County will
prosecute the case. But also, and I'm sure Miss King
shares in many of our frustrations as local council here
in Atlanta, that district Attorney's office and the court system
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is just overwhelmed for a number of reasons.
Speaker 6 (27:02):
Paige Gibbons, a nineteen year old New York college student,
thinks she's taking Percoset, the counterfeit pills one hundred percent fentanyl.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Paige Gibbons, known as they quote do Gooder.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
She was a do gooder. Now she's dead because of
one pell.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Listen.
Speaker 10 (27:20):
Paige Gibbons, nineteen, graduates from Our Lady of Mercy High
School in Rochester, New York. She's excited to start college
classes at her father's alma mater, the Holbart and William
Smith Colleges. Gibbons dreams of becoming a doctor or first
responder and is dedicated to her goal, focusing a high
school senior project on procuring female CPR mannequins for the school.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Did you hear that doctor William Maroney, her nickname was
do Gooder? She was working to provide mannikins to help
fight all sorts of issues plaguing young women. Do you
hear that the so called do gooder dies of one
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single pill?
Speaker 7 (28:03):
All across America? There's this tsunami of death that comes
from fake pills. Where did we ever get this idea
that it's okay to take percoset. It's part it's in
our high schools in Michigan. But in Michigan we prosecute
people that give fentanyl as killers. It's homicide. But this
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experimentation with percoset is not going to go away. And
we need to do two things in general society. We
need to begin to educate everybody, not just families at risk,
not just the poor, not just people are disenfranchised. We
need to educate everybody about what does an opioid overdose
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look like? What does a fentanyl overdose look like? Because
this is going to happen everywhere. This is going to
happen in libraries.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Well here, speaking of what it looks like, we learned
that this nineteen year old takes what she believes is
one pill a percoset listen.
Speaker 9 (29:09):
After a whirlwind few months in college, Paige Gibbons returns
home to Rochester for the Thanksgiving holiday. Gibbons spends the
night out of sleepover catching up with her two best friends.
The three girls decided to purchase percoset pills through social media.
While Gibbons and her friend take the pills, the third
friend becomes uncomfortable with the situation and skips the pill.
Paige Gibbons goes to sleep that night and never wakes up.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace joining us is Jack's mom,
Angela King. Angela, I know that Rachel, that Paige Gibbons
obtained what she thought was a single percoset pill along
with her friends on social media. How did Jack? I
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think I know the answer. But how did Jack get
hooked up with this poc abram rincon.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Well, actually we found where Jack was, where he purchased
it this ab as he goes by, had a telegram
site that he was selling the drugs, and then he
was venmoeing. He was very brazen, had his own picture
up on his venmo account. He did go to North
Atlanta High School and that's where Jack went, so they
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knew each other.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Wait a minute, let me understand something, Angela King, you're
telling me that Raancone was right there at the high
school selling drugs.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
He didn't sell it at the high school. Jack was
in college. He went to high school with Jack. However,
he was arrested previously for drugs when he was at
North Atlanta. But we believe that connection happened Rincon was
a few years older than Jack, but they met in
high school.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Oh my stars, and back to you, Doctor William Maroney.
That's how it happens. You know a guy who knows
a guy you went, Hey, I went to the.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Same high school as you. Hey, do you know x Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
We played lacrosse together, we played football together, And the
next thing you know, you know this guy ab also
known as Abram rain Cohn. So long story short, there's
a degree of familiarity. For instance, in Paige Gibbons case,
she was with all her friend girls and they're having
a sleepover and they go, wow, let's go on social
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media and get a valum. It was one hundred percent fentanyl.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Dr Maroney.
Speaker 7 (31:43):
Yes, it's the scourge. It's what's happening. People are buying
what they think are adderall, It's got fentanyl in it.
People are buying what they think are xanax. It's got
fentanyl in it. People are buying purposet. I mean drug
dealers used to least assimilate opioids at opioids and stimulants
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with stimulants, but everything's mixed up and everything has fentanyl
in it because it's the common precursor everything being imported
is based on the smaller it is and the stronger,
more potent it is, the easier it is to smuggle it.
If you wanted to kill one hundred people, you need
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this much heroin, and if you wanted to kill one
hundred people, you need this much fentanyl.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
That much and you know another issue. Tom Smith, a
former NYPD now star on the Goalshield podcast at the
Goalsheerd at the gold Shieldshow dot com. Tom, these teams,
including Jack, have a degree familiarity with the person that
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gives them the pill, and that makes them the victim
trust the person because of those connections, those seeming connections.
And with Paige Gibbons, who thinks she's getting a percocet,
she's with her friend girls obviously one of them had
done it before on social media and it was okay,
now she's dead, yep.
Speaker 8 (33:19):
And what's the common denominator? And all this social media
and the electronics that are out there, the ease that
these kids have to purchase these pills that a laser
fentadel is so disturbing and that's the problem. Law enforcement
needs to go deep into the electronic footprints and get
to the drug dealers. They're there, the communication is there,
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and the relationship is there. It's got to get found
and these people need to be criminally charged with man supporters.
We discussed throughout the show. There's got to be an
end to this. When is enough enough? One hundred thousand,
two hundred thousand, When is enough enough to make this
a national security issue for our children.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
We're Kate and Dave Gibbons from Pittsford, New York. Our
daughter Page was just nineteen years old and had just
started college when she and a friend were given pills
they thought were percocet. Unfortunately it was spentanyl. Page overdosed
and died from one pill one time.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
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Speaker 10 (34:20):
Visit OASAS dot n Y dot gov.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
This isn't something.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
That only happens to other people, and we don't want
it to happen to anyone else.
Speaker 9 (34:30):
Divino Nino Daycare in Kingsbridge, New York is now the
place of nightmares as trusting parents leave toddlers in the
care of responsible caregivers, when in reality they are leaving
their children with alleged monsters selling deadly fentanyl out of
the daycare. One year old Nicholas Felice Dominici dies from
fentanyl overdose and three other children are hospitalized. Police find
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twenty two pounds of narcotics and one kilogram cake of
fentanyl being stored on top of children's playmats.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
When this bay be inhaled the fentinyl dust, when that
fentanyl was moved to hide it in the daycare, when
he breathed that in, he died. And as we go
to air, joining me is Angela King, mother of Jack,
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a beautiful young man who dies from one pill. Angela,
I have learned about three area three Bay Area babies,
three infants, Phoenix Castro, Winter Reo, and Christopher Ferea, all
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dead from exposure to fentanyl, just being exposed to it.
And these are little infants. I was stunned when I
heard about the daycare case. They're just breathing in fentinyl
can kill you. One pill. One pill killed Jack. I
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want to know what is your message?
Speaker 3 (36:07):
First of all, thank you for thinking of me and
giving me this time. It is so important to talk
about it. We've got to educate. This needs to be
a requirement in all school systems. We need to educate
our children about the dangers of drugs. In addition, everyone
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needs to have analoxone. There's Narcan, but there's also another
product called kluck Sato, which is eight milligrams. Narcan is
four milligrams every minute matters. Everyone should have cluck Sado
on their person, in their cars, in the children's backpacks.
(36:47):
It was just passed here in Georgia that now schools
will all carry the narcan. Everyone needs to know how
to use it. It's a nosepray. This is the world
we're living in. We have to get educated. We have
to start talking about this. There needs to be a
mandatory in school's, a drug program like I told you,
(37:10):
you know, Mother's against drunk driving. I want to do
a campaign like that. This needs to be discussed every
day on the news. Love your children, Jack knew, Jack
knew better. All of our kids know better, and just
know that they need to know that if they take
that pill throughout having fun with their friends and they
take that pill, that's it. You don't know, it's Russian roulette,
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and don't do that to your family.
Speaker 4 (37:36):
This tragic Angela.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
I want you and doctor Maroney to know that you
have already impacted a life. Mine a new doctor is
treating my mom who lives with us, and had given
her a different kind of painkiller for her spine. I
went in her room to take her breakfast like I
do every morning, and this was preparing for to day,
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and she was out cold. I didn't know what had happened.
I immediately got her and it was hard. The twins
had to help me into the back of the car.
We took her to the hospital and by even using
her prescribed dosage of an opioid painkiller, she was out.
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They saved her life, my mother with Narkian. They saved
her life, and it threw her into a fit like
I've never seen that lasted eight or nine hours.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
I thought the narkhn was going to kill her.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
The Narkian saved her life at her age. An accidental
completely following a new prescription as prescribed newly killed her.
You have already affected so many lives, including you too,
doctor Moroni. I first heard about Narkian from you, you
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know again to Angela. Parents don't think their child would
ever do this. That's what you thought about, Jack. That's
what parents all across the country, me as parents, the Gibbonses,
all these parents, they have these wonderful children and they
have no idea that one pill can kill again.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
Angela, speak to parents.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
Now, start talking to your kids, start talking to everyone.
This sentinyl crisis that we're in is getting worse. It
is going to get worse until we can close the
borders and there's something that happens on a national, federal level.
We're in a major crisis. More children are going to die.
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We have to start talking about it. We have to
start making a difference and educate your children, love them up.
Just know that this could happen to your children, and unfortunately,
this is the world we live in.
Speaker 4 (39:58):
By the narcan learn how to use it.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
It needs to be in every place, in concert arenas
and football stadiums. Cluxato is now putting it into Emory
University in a vending machine. It needs to be on
in every school campus. There needs to be mandatory education
and I'm going to do anything and everything in my
power to make that happen to everyone.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
Please know you can dial toll free eight hundred sixty
six y two help eight hundred sixty six two, four
three five seven or nine eight eight, just like you
call nine one one or four to one one nine,
eight eight. Send special thank you to Jack's mother joining
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US ANGELA King. Nancy Gray signing off goodbye friend,
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. A mother's heartbreak. Her young
son found cold blue. He dies from one fake pill.
One pill and he's dead. Why, good evening. I'mancy Grace.
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This is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us.
The fentanyl epidemic is striking at the hearts of families
across the country. Counterfeit pills laced with the lethal narcotic
leading to overdoses. Now families are fighting back fentanyl, Fentanyl
rising amongst the ranks of other deadly drugs to strike
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fear and the hearts of parents all across our country.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Tonight, I've got.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
So many cases of young children, teens, even infants dead
from an unlikely encounter with sentinel.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Just one pill kills and when you.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Look at it, you don't even know what it is. Again,
this is Crime Stories, and I thank you for being
with us. With me an all star panel, but I'm
first starting with a mom who was suffering heartbreak after her.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Boy is dead from one pill.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Just a bright, beautiful, shining boy now dead.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Listen, Jack's gone, Jacks Gone.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
I rushed over.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
And when I arrived at police and the empt were there.
My husband had worked on him for thirty minutes and
he's told me his fingers were blue.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
He was already called.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
The and he worked on him for an hour.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
You are hearing Jack o'kelly's mother, Angela speaking out, Angela
King with me as I said an all star panel.
But first to Angela King, Miss King, thank you for
being with us. And I do not like making a
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crime victim relive what happened. But Miss King, there are
literally millions of people that will hear your voice, who
are suffering as you and your husband have suffered. What
happened the day that Jack died.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Well, the night before Thanksgiving, Jack could come home as
all of our other children did from college, and he
went out with a group of friends, celebrating seeing everyone
they went out. He sent the night out at a
friend's house, and the next morning we were getting ready
for Thanksgiving and Jack wasn't answering the phone. So my
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husband called the parents and they said, oh, we just
checked on them. The boys are all still sleeping. We've
got out for a walk. Come on over.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
The front doors unlocked.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
So he drove over literally right across around the corner
from us, and Jack was unresponsive. The other boys were
not aware of that. His fingers were blue, and he
was already gone. My husband worked frantically on him for
thirty minutes while the ants came. We all went over
(03:44):
to the house and the ants worked on him for
an hour, but we knew he was gone. The most
horrific day of our lives.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
It's unimaginable, yes, exactly.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
And the one pill that he thinks is is an
ex or a valium, is actually laced with deadly fentinel.
You know, you are hearing a loving mother who is
now living through the worst time, the darkest time of
her life. And I noticed that you're doing what I
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did when my fiance was murdered, and still do. I
can't say he's dead for years. All I could say
is he's gone. And I'm not sure why that's true,
but it is.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Guys.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
What happened that morning, the morning that Angela is describing, Listen.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
We woke up Thanksgiving morning, ready to celebrate one of
Jack's favorite holidays. My husband started calling Jack in the
morning to come home to get ready, and Jack didn't
answer this phone. He called the parents and they said, oh,
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we just looked in and all the boys are still sleeping.
Come on over, We're going for a walk at the park.
The front doors open, just come on over. So he
drove over and a few minutes later he called me
in a complete panic.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
A complete panic with me an all star panel.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
But I want to go to a veteran.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Trial lawyer joining us a criminal defense attorney in Atlanta
and the jurisdiction where so much fentanyl is flooding the market.
It seems to be an endless battle. And you know,
Ray Giudice with me at rayglaw dot com. High profile
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lawyer wins a lot of cases. But when I first
started as a rookie prosecutor, Ray was on the other
side of the fence. Actually, first you were a prosecutor
and another jurisdiction. Then you became a defense attorney. And
for the longest time, you know, we were practicing against
each other. I wouldn't even mention to anyone ever. And
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this went on for the full ten years. I was
in the DA's office that my fiance had been murdered,
and I could never say dead.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
If I had to say it, it would be gone.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
You've dealt with a lot of crime victims, Ray, this
is not uncommon.
Speaker 5 (06:37):
Unfortunately, Nancy is not in my condolences to this family
of what appears to be just an absolutely wonderful young man.
We both have friends of our law school friends who
have young adults in this age bracket. You are right
about the fentanyl scourge in Fulton County, and I'm sure
the doctor can opine on this better than I can.
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But you don't need a whole pill of fentanyl. You
need a grain of fentanyl. Which is why when they
find an amount of fentanyl in somebody's apartment or car,
law enforcement will say it was enough to kill ten
thousand people. This is nuclear waste of drugs. It's so
deadly and it's so silent. It's laced in so many
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things that especially our young adults, maybe in a party situation,
maybe in a situation of being a little having a
good time, get something in their system that's laced with
fentanyl and just disastrous results.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
All of our children came over that morning. The screams,
the whales, the absolute terror, shock, fear and pain that
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we endured that morning. No parent, no sibling, no human
should ever ever have to experience. It was the most
devastating day of our lives.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Joining us.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Angela O'Kelly describing the discovery of her son Jack dead.
Her husband tried valiantly. EMTs tried valiantly, but by the
time Jack was found, they're at a sleepover with a
group of friends from school.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
They had no.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Idea that as they all lay sleeping, Jack was dying. Angela,
when did you learn the coeod cause of death.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
We didn't find out until the autopsy results, So this
came a while after he had died.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
That morning and it's Thanksgiving, you're all getting everything ready.
I guess you like me make a big turkey. We
have a turkey off where one is baked and smoked,
and we compare. I lose every year. All the family there,
everybody's running around and no Jack, No Jack, he doesn't
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show up. When you got that call from your husband,
what happened?
Speaker 3 (09:17):
I was completely devastated, of course, thinking this couldn't be happening.
This is surreal. Jack just went out with his friends
like everybody else did, and there's no way anything could
be this wrong.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
So it was so surreal but so real at the
same time.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
In that moment, were you in the kitchen, was everybody there,
was the oven on and everything's going along, and then
the harsh dichotomy, the start dichotomy of getting this call.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
It was it was earlier in the morning, but still
of course trying to get everybody ready. We have six children,
and so you know, everybody getting ready. This was Jack's
favorite holiday. And just never in a million years would
we ever ever imagine something like this happening. But you know, Nancy,
it's happening every day. It's going to continue to happen.
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We have a serious, serious problem on our hands and
people are not talking about it. Children do not know,
These parents don't know, and I'm I'm doing everything that
I can. It's only been six months a little over
six months, but I'm committed to doing anything that I
can do to get the word out, to speak to schools, churches, communities,
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whatever I can do. We've got to start talking about
this because it's not going away. Ventyal's coming into this
country by the boatloads from Mexico, from China to Mexico
into this country with our open borders, and we have
a serious problem, and anything that I can do to
save a life, I'm willing to do. I've gotten emails
(10:56):
from people whose parents have said, because you speaking out,
my child has come to me and said, you know what,
I may have a problem. I've been doing illegal you know,
I've been doing drugs and I'm addicted. Now I need
to go into rehab. So I'm hoping that I'm making
a difference and saving a life. That's what Jack wanted.
Jack left, just like it says in the Bible. Jack
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left so that we can live. And I'm committed. Really,
I don't know why this is not on the front
page of every newspaper in this country.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
Why it's not talked about.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
On the news daily. Every five minutes, somebody's dying of
fentanyl in this country. We have to start doing something
about it. We have to start talking about it. I
want to take this and do a campaign just like
Mad Mothers against drunk driving that was so impactful years ago.
That's where we are right now with fentanyl. It is
in everything. The drug dealers are putting it in every
drug and there has to be something done about it
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on a large scale.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
We have to come together and start talking.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Crime stories, with Nancy Grace, Angela King joining us. Her
son just literally scrubbed and Sunshine. He honors students so smart.
It was on the football team, loved everybody had a
huge group of friends at Uga. Loved Uga, just an
(12:26):
incredible young man that you raised. You raised this little
miracle into a man, a wonderful young man just starting
his life. When you discovered what had happened, I know,
it was unbelievable. He had never had a drug or
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alcohol problem. Like so many other parents, you think everything's
just merely, we go along, it's working out, everything's fine,
and then this, what is your understanding of what happened
that night?
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Angela.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
He was with friends, having a good time, and from
our understanding, he made a fatal mistake, one that should
not have cost him his life. It was it was
a murder, It was a poisoning. This was an intentional poisoning.
That's what's happening with this fentanyl. There is accountability. Of course,
he did take a pill. Should he have not taken
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a pill? Absolutely? Was it a stupid choice? Absolutely? And
Jack knew better. Jack didn't take a pill to die.
He didn't overdose on a pill. He was poisoned. This
is something that we were shocked to hear of. And
if it's happening to Jack, it's happening all around. These
college campuses is full of rugs. Kids are passing it
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around like it's candy, and it really is. Like you said,
one pill can kill. They're play in Russian roulette. You
don't know what you're getting. He thought he was getting
his anax and clearly it had fentanyl in it.
Speaker 6 (13:58):
A twenty year old Ugas dies Thanksgiving morning after ingesting
a counterfeit Xenex pill laced with fentanyl. Jack o'kelly's mom
now on a mission to stop another family from suffering
the laws of a loved one.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Angela King is taking her battle in the name of
her son Jack Public One pill can kill? And what's
so scary? I'm throwing this out to doctor William Moroney.
Doctor Moroney has devoted himself to fighting the opioid crisis.
Not only a renowned medical examiner, a toxicologist pathologist, but
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he's an opioid treatment expert and author of American Narcian.
He has certainly put his money where his mouth and
his brains and his education are. He has created a
traveling mobile unit to fight fentanyl and other opioid deaths
and addictions. Doctor William Maroney, you don't just talk the talk,
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you walk the walk. Can you explain in regular people talk.
What Angela is describing.
Speaker 7 (15:10):
What Angela is describing is that the normal flow of
X experimentation with our children is, you know, sometimes they
grew up, they smoked a cigarette, they snuck a beer,
you know, they smoked a little bit of weed somewhere,
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well somewhere. This has gone terribly wrong, And what our
children are experimenting with is they're taking things that look
like pharmaceutical safe products, but they're fraud They're fake, and
(15:50):
they're made to look this way because no teenager, no
young adult, would ever take unknown powder and inject it.
So the cartel and the drug dealers have taken narcotics
like fentanyl and methanphetamine and put it in something that
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looks just like this. Now, this whole pill may not
be solid fentanyl. It's pressed in secret places and basements
and garages and warehouses because it's not a pharmaceutical and
the amount of ventanyl that will kill in this pill.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Would fit.
Speaker 7 (16:38):
On the head.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Of a pencil.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Okay, I like it when you describe it to grains
of salt, doctor Moroni.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Yeah, you describe for me the other.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Day about the grains of salt. I was floored.
Speaker 7 (16:53):
It's three or four grains of salt. Something you almost
can't see in a spoon. If you shake it out
and put it on a burger, a dog or a
French fries, it disappears. It's so small. And this is
what's in fraudulent pills. The idea that kids can get
together and you know, maybe have a couple of beers,
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or they pass aroundbills that look good. You used to
steal those pills from your mom and dad. They didn't
come from drug dealers.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
That's all changed.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Well, you know another issue, Doctor William Roney, And let
me throw this out to Tom Smith and Raymond Judice,
and I wonder how Angela King is going to react
to this. Tom Smith, former NYPD detective, co hosts of.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Gold Shields podcasts.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Tom, Now, there's something called rainbow fentanyl. Rainbow fentanyl, and
when you look at it.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
It looks like the Smarties.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
I don't know if you had that growing up, but
they're a little round tablets and you bite them. They're
rainbow colors, purple, pink, yellow, They that's all they are.
These rainbow fentanyl pills look like Smarties. They are now
being marketed to children and teens and they look like
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a little piece of candy rainbow fentanyl.
Speaker 8 (18:12):
Yeah, and that's why it's made that way, because it's
an attraction, and it's made to attract the younger crowd.
And that's exactly why it's done. And that's the horrible
part of it. And that's where the accountability needs to
come in. That these dealers know exactly what they're doing,
they know the amount they're putting in, they know the
effects of it, and the accountability has to be raised
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now to a criminal level.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Too, Raymond Judice.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
So very often, you know, when we hear about a
drug case, there is an automatic perception amongst a lot
of people, including jurors, that oh, it's drugs, the victim
was a drug addic, they knew what they were doing.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
That is not the case here. Jack is not the
only one.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
I've got a whole full of cases where even infants
are exposed to fentyl, just fentinyl powder, and they die.
I'm about to tell you about another young girl just
nineteen who takes one pill it's laced with fentanyl. Another
girl in high school fifteen does the same before an exam.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
She dies. That's what's happening.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
And now the dope dealers are making them look like
Smarties candies that you get at the Dollar Tree.
Speaker 5 (19:29):
Look, they want to use less real drugs. This stuff
is so cheap and so easy to make in China
and North Korea, come through our borders illegally or on
shipping containers, and then it's put to accelerate a smaller
amount of a drug to get a bigger reaction. So
they're getting a twenty times x impact, except that that
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twenty times x will kill a vibert healthy young adult
or an infant in an another room. I agreed completely
with all the things that Miss King has said. I
applaud for bringing this to our attention as a community.
Speaker 7 (20:11):
You know, a crack.
Speaker 5 (20:12):
Addict has to smoke an awful lot of crack to overdose.
A heroin addict can do a lot of heroin before
they die. As the doctor pointed out, a couple of
grains assault of fentanyl in a pill that's designed to
look like a gummy bear can kill. As we point
as we see a beautiful young athlete for and it's
(20:34):
just a shame, and we this has to raise to
a national level. It has to be sought in the
state Department, our military, whatever. I don't want to get political,
but I believe, I believe that this is a concerted
effort by people in other countries that hate our country
to ship this poison here.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Plus the profit motive. Oh yes, it's a huge profit.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Back to Mom Angela King, mother of Jack Angela, When
did you learn that one pill.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Killed Jack?
Speaker 1 (21:10):
A pill that I believe he got from a guy
that everybody seemed to know. You know, when somebody that
you know says here, here, here's an aspirin, here's an
active ed, here's a whatever. Fill in the blank, and
as somebody you know, and that all your friends know, you're.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Like, okay and take it. You don't look at.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
It and look it up on the internet and think, wow,
is this lace with fentanyl?
Speaker 2 (21:36):
When did you learn what had happened?
Speaker 3 (21:39):
That's right, Well, what you said is absolutely accurate. These
drugs now that are coming out. Look, you can barely
tell which is fake and which is real. You can't
afford to take anything from anyone at any age unless
it's prescribed to you from a doctor. You can't take
any pills at all. You know, we were shock to
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learn when we received the toxicology and the autopsy results
that Jack had taken a pill, and we took it
upon ourselves to work with the detectives. We hacked into
Jack's laptop, which coincidentally I'm on right now, which is
pretty interesting to do this, and researched and found the
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drug dealer actually through our investigations, looking into his Venmo accounts, etc.
And we found the drug dealer and turned all that
evidence over to the detectives to go after him.
Speaker 6 (22:38):
A fifteen year old Georgia high schooler overdoses in a
school classroom Mia diegez Selfer is a heart attack after
swallowing a fentanyl laced pill provided by another student. The
team dies sitting at her classroom desk.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
It is raging across our country and a mother still
suffering over the death of her young boy, Angela King
with us her son Jack. So what do we know
about this guy that she the mom, managed to dig
up at her son's social media listen.
Speaker 9 (23:16):
Atlanta Homicide id's Abram Rancon is the person from whom
Jack purchased what he thought was Xenix in the following
weeks and undercover makes multiple buys from Rangcon. Those buys
become PC probable cause to search Ringcon's apartment, and when
they do, they find pills, illegal hallucinogeny, mushrooms, mushroom chocolate bars,
four five hundred and fifty edibles, THHC wax from methazine
(23:39):
in thirty pills moon rocks, over thirty five pounds of marijuana,
eight guns, two shotguns, rifles and pistols, and a bulletproof vest.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Jack never had a chance against this guy and worse.
Speaker 9 (23:53):
Listen to this. Abram Rancone's attorney, Jay apt says Rincon
is not guilty and is looking forward to his day
in court. Raincon has five drug sale counts pending, but
as attorney says, the drug trafficking and gun charges were dismissed.
Raincon is then released on a signature bond. Jack o'kelly's
mother is outraged Ringcone got bond, as is the Fulton
(24:13):
County District Attorney's office. App said no mention of an
overdose death was made at the first appearance where these
things happened.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
What the hey?
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Abram Raancone walks free on ro r released on own recognissance.
He didn't even have to put up a bond and
to boot he's not charged with homicide, not a murder.
When he is the one dealing pills passing them off
(24:43):
as valium, they're laced with deadly fentinel. No manslaughter charge,
much lessen for not a murder, but there's not a
voluntary or even an involuntary charge. Why is it that
fatal fentinel overdoses are skyrocketing across US our country, yet
there are very very few death charges. And look, I
(25:08):
came from the Fulton County District Attorney's office. I love
the district Attorney's office. But what the hey, no bond
and no manslaughter charge? How can this be? Rage you
to Jay.
Speaker 5 (25:23):
Nancy, I suppose he came up for bond within ten
days of his arrest, and I don't believe the coroner's
report would have been back and got given to the
assistant district attorney in that courtroom to present to the
judge to make probable cause to make a bond for
a manslaughter or a homicide charge. That would be my belief.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Hold your horses.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
You to Jay, you said that maybe the autopsy report
for Jack wasn't back yet. Well, if I've got it
now and we all know about it, and Angela has
it they've got it.
Speaker 5 (25:57):
It wasn't there at the time of the bond application, but.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
It is now. Where are the advanced charges? You know,
the grand jury meets in Fulton County every Tuesday and Thursday,
all right, that have plenty of time to upgrade this
indictment to include a second degree involuntary manslaor what about that?
Speaker 5 (26:14):
All due respect, Nancy, you worked in a different Fulton
County District Attorney's office than that currently exists, and I'm
not going to make excuses for them, but you're right,
there's no reason that this hasn't been indicted. There's no
reason that there hasn't been a bond increase and a prosecution. Now,
there are some gaps in the law, and that's what
Miss King is working on, and that our governor just
(26:36):
signed a change in the law to make these prosecutions,
I don't want to say easier, but more tools for
the prosecution to use. So I do think they'll upgrade
the charges, and I do think the Fulton County will
prosecute the case. But also, and I'm sure Miss King
shares in many of our frustrations as local council here
in Atlanta, that district Attorney's office and the court system
(26:59):
is just overwhelmed for a number of reasons.
Speaker 6 (27:02):
Paige Gibbons, a nineteen year old New York college student,
thinks she's taking Percoset, the counterfeit pills one hundred percent fentanyl.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Paige Gibbons, known as they quote do Gooder.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
She was a do gooder. Now she's dead because of
one pell.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Listen.
Speaker 10 (27:20):
Paige Gibbons, nineteen, graduates from Our Lady of Mercy High
School in Rochester, New York. She's excited to start college
classes at her father's alma mater, the Holbart and William
Smith Colleges. Gibbons dreams of becoming a doctor or first
responder and is dedicated to her goal, focusing a high
school senior project on procuring female CPR mannequins for the school.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Did you hear that doctor William Maroney, her nickname was
do Gooder? She was working to provide mannikins to help
fight all sorts of issues plaguing young women. Do you
hear that the so called do gooder dies of one
(28:02):
single pill?
Speaker 7 (28:03):
All across America? There's this tsunami of death that comes
from fake pills. Where did we ever get this idea
that it's okay to take percoset. It's part it's in
our high schools in Michigan. But in Michigan we prosecute
people that give fentanyl as killers. It's homicide. But this
(28:26):
experimentation with percoset is not going to go away. And
we need to do two things in general society. We
need to begin to educate everybody, not just families at risk,
not just the poor, not just people are disenfranchised. We
need to educate everybody about what does an opioid overdose
(28:49):
look like? What does a fentanyl overdose look like? Because
this is going to happen everywhere. This is going to
happen in libraries.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Well here, speaking of what it looks like, we learned
that this nineteen year old takes what she believes is
one pill a percoset listen.
Speaker 9 (29:09):
After a whirlwind few months in college, Paige Gibbons returns
home to Rochester for the Thanksgiving holiday. Gibbons spends the
night out of sleepover catching up with her two best friends.
The three girls decided to purchase percoset pills through social media.
While Gibbons and her friend take the pills, the third
friend becomes uncomfortable with the situation and skips the pill.
Paige Gibbons goes to sleep that night and never wakes up.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace joining us is Jack's mom,
Angela King. Angela, I know that Rachel, that Paige Gibbons
obtained what she thought was a single percoset pill along
with her friends on social media. How did Jack? I
(30:03):
think I know the answer. But how did Jack get
hooked up with this poc abram rincon.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Well, actually we found where Jack was, where he purchased
it this ab as he goes by, had a telegram
site that he was selling the drugs, and then he
was venmoeing. He was very brazen, had his own picture
up on his venmo account. He did go to North
Atlanta High School and that's where Jack went, so they
(30:35):
knew each other.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Wait a minute, let me understand something, Angela King, you're
telling me that Raancone was right there at the high
school selling drugs.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
He didn't sell it at the high school. Jack was
in college. He went to high school with Jack. However,
he was arrested previously for drugs when he was at
North Atlanta. But we believe that connection happened Rincon was
a few years older than Jack, but they met in
high school.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Oh my stars, and back to you, Doctor William Maroney.
That's how it happens. You know a guy who knows
a guy you went, Hey, I went to the.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Same high school as you. Hey, do you know x Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
We played lacrosse together, we played football together, And the
next thing you know, you know this guy ab also
known as Abram rain Cohn. So long story short, there's
a degree of familiarity. For instance, in Paige Gibbons case,
she was with all her friend girls and they're having
a sleepover and they go, wow, let's go on social
(31:36):
media and get a valum. It was one hundred percent fentanyl.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Dr Maroney.
Speaker 7 (31:43):
Yes, it's the scourge. It's what's happening. People are buying
what they think are adderall, It's got fentanyl in it.
People are buying what they think are xanax. It's got
fentanyl in it. People are buying purposet. I mean drug
dealers used to least assimilate opioids at opioids and stimulants
(32:04):
with stimulants, but everything's mixed up and everything has fentanyl
in it because it's the common precursor everything being imported
is based on the smaller it is and the stronger,
more potent it is, the easier it is to smuggle it.
If you wanted to kill one hundred people, you need
(32:26):
this much heroin, and if you wanted to kill one
hundred people, you need this much fentanyl.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
That much and you know another issue. Tom Smith, a
former NYPD now star on the Goalshield podcast at the
Goalsheerd at the gold Shieldshow dot com. Tom, these teams,
including Jack, have a degree familiarity with the person that
(32:58):
gives them the pill, and that makes them the victim
trust the person because of those connections, those seeming connections.
And with Paige Gibbons, who thinks she's getting a percocet,
she's with her friend girls obviously one of them had
done it before on social media and it was okay,
now she's dead, yep.
Speaker 8 (33:19):
And what's the common denominator? And all this social media
and the electronics that are out there, the ease that
these kids have to purchase these pills that a laser
fentadel is so disturbing and that's the problem. Law enforcement
needs to go deep into the electronic footprints and get
to the drug dealers. They're there, the communication is there,
(33:42):
and the relationship is there. It's got to get found
and these people need to be criminally charged with man supporters.
We discussed throughout the show. There's got to be an
end to this. When is enough enough? One hundred thousand,
two hundred thousand, When is enough enough to make this
a national security issue for our children.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
We're Kate and Dave Gibbons from Pittsford, New York. Our
daughter Page was just nineteen years old and had just
started college when she and a friend were given pills
they thought were percocet. Unfortunately it was spentanyl. Page overdosed
and died from one pill one time.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
Get the facts and fring A locks on by mail.
Speaker 10 (34:20):
Visit OASAS dot n Y dot gov.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
This isn't something.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
That only happens to other people, and we don't want
it to happen to anyone else.
Speaker 9 (34:30):
Divino Nino Daycare in Kingsbridge, New York is now the
place of nightmares as trusting parents leave toddlers in the
care of responsible caregivers, when in reality they are leaving
their children with alleged monsters selling deadly fentanyl out of
the daycare. One year old Nicholas Felice Dominici dies from
fentanyl overdose and three other children are hospitalized. Police find
(34:53):
twenty two pounds of narcotics and one kilogram cake of
fentanyl being stored on top of children's playmats.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
When this bay be inhaled the fentinyl dust, when that
fentanyl was moved to hide it in the daycare, when
he breathed that in, he died. And as we go
to air, joining me is Angela King, mother of Jack,
(35:20):
a beautiful young man who dies from one pill. Angela,
I have learned about three area three Bay Area babies,
three infants, Phoenix Castro, Winter Reo, and Christopher Ferea, all
(35:41):
dead from exposure to fentanyl, just being exposed to it.
And these are little infants. I was stunned when I
heard about the daycare case. They're just breathing in fentinyl
can kill you. One pill. One pill killed Jack. I
(36:03):
want to know what is your message?
Speaker 3 (36:07):
First of all, thank you for thinking of me and
giving me this time. It is so important to talk
about it. We've got to educate. This needs to be
a requirement in all school systems. We need to educate
our children about the dangers of drugs. In addition, everyone
(36:27):
needs to have analoxone. There's Narcan, but there's also another
product called kluck Sato, which is eight milligrams. Narcan is
four milligrams every minute matters. Everyone should have cluck Sado
on their person, in their cars, in the children's backpacks.
(36:47):
It was just passed here in Georgia that now schools
will all carry the narcan. Everyone needs to know how
to use it. It's a nosepray. This is the world
we're living in. We have to get educated. We have
to start talking about this. There needs to be a
mandatory in school's, a drug program like I told you,
(37:10):
you know, Mother's against drunk driving. I want to do
a campaign like that. This needs to be discussed every
day on the news. Love your children, Jack knew, Jack
knew better. All of our kids know better, and just
know that they need to know that if they take
that pill throughout having fun with their friends and they
take that pill, that's it. You don't know, it's Russian roulette,
(37:34):
and don't do that to your family.
Speaker 4 (37:36):
This tragic Angela.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
I want you and doctor Maroney to know that you
have already impacted a life. Mine a new doctor is
treating my mom who lives with us, and had given
her a different kind of painkiller for her spine. I
went in her room to take her breakfast like I
do every morning, and this was preparing for to day,
(38:00):
and she was out cold. I didn't know what had happened.
I immediately got her and it was hard. The twins
had to help me into the back of the car.
We took her to the hospital and by even using
her prescribed dosage of an opioid painkiller, she was out.
(38:21):
They saved her life, my mother with Narkian. They saved
her life, and it threw her into a fit like
I've never seen that lasted eight or nine hours.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
I thought the narkhn was going to kill her.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
The Narkian saved her life at her age. An accidental
completely following a new prescription as prescribed newly killed her.
You have already affected so many lives, including you too,
doctor Moroni. I first heard about Narkian from you, you
(39:00):
know again to Angela. Parents don't think their child would
ever do this. That's what you thought about, Jack. That's
what parents all across the country, me as parents, the Gibbonses,
all these parents, they have these wonderful children and they
have no idea that one pill can kill again.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
Angela, speak to parents.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
Now, start talking to your kids, start talking to everyone.
This sentinyl crisis that we're in is getting worse. It
is going to get worse until we can close the
borders and there's something that happens on a national, federal level.
We're in a major crisis. More children are going to die.
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We have to start talking about it. We have to
start making a difference and educate your children, love them up.
Just know that this could happen to your children, and unfortunately,
this is the world we live in.
Speaker 4 (39:58):
By the narcan learn how to use it.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
It needs to be in every place, in concert arenas
and football stadiums. Cluxato is now putting it into Emory
University in a vending machine. It needs to be on
in every school campus. There needs to be mandatory education
and I'm going to do anything and everything in my
power to make that happen to everyone.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
Please know you can dial toll free eight hundred sixty
six y two help eight hundred sixty six two, four
three five seven or nine eight eight, just like you
call nine one one or four to one one nine,
eight eight. Send special thank you to Jack's mother joining
(40:42):
US ANGELA King. Nancy Gray signing off goodbye friend,
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