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October 17, 2025 44 mins

In the days before Kada Scott's disappearance, she tells friends she’s being harassed online and over the phone. Kada goes to work at an upscale assisted living facility for a 10 p.m. – 6 a.m. shift.

Shortly after arriving at work, Kada walks out, car still in the parking lot, and no cameras. Kada's phone goes straight to voicemail; the phone is possibly now dead, and there is no social media activity.

Two weeks into the investigation,   investigators announced the arrest of Keon King, 21, for Kada’s kidnapping, but Kada is still missing.  Investigators beg the public for help to track down King’s 1999 gold Toyota Camry, Pennsylvania plate MSX0797.
Hours after that request, a resident at Gypsy Lane Condos remembers a car matching that description had been parked in the lot for almost a week.

Officers descend on the community, where King’s family lives, cordoning off the parking lot to search. The Toyota is towed when police confirm it belongs to King.

Surveillance footage shows the car entering the gated Gypsy Lane parking lot 5 days before police tow it. A resident opens the gate for the driver, who sits in the car for about 35 minutes before leaving. It’s unclear if King was behind the wheel.

Just two weeks before Kada’s disappearance, King listed the car for sale on Facebook Marketplace.

Police are also spreading out from the last search at Awbury Arboretum. Acting on a tip, officers search across the street at the now-abandoned Ada Lewis Middle School.

During a grid search outside the locked building, they recover some of Kada’s belongings: her debit card and pink phone case. 

Joining Nancy Grace:

  • Derek Smith - Criminal Defense Attorney
  • Dr. Geri-Lynn Utter - Clinical Psychologist (specializing in psychological evaluations and risk assessments for individuals involved in the criminal justice system), Author of “Mainlining Philly: Survival, Hope and Resisting Drug Addition,” and “Aftershock: How Past Event Shake Up Your Life Today," and Producer of “Utter Nonsense,” (a documentary of exploration of addition and severe mental illness, available to stream on Apple TV and Prime Video, website:drgerilynnutter.com, Instagram & Facebook: DrGeriLynnUtter,  
  • Brian Fitzgibbons - VP of Operations for USPA Nationwide Security; Instagram: @uspa_nationwide_security, Kingsman Philanthropic's 2022 rescue missions of women and children in Ukraine, Iraq War Veteranide_security
  • Sheryl McCollum - Cold Case Investigative Research Institute Founder, Host of podcast: Zone 7; X: @149zone7
  • Joe Holden - Chief Investigative Reporter and Anchor, CBS News Philadelphia, cbsnews.com/Philadelphia; Facebook: Joe Holden Reporter, X: @JoeHoldenCBS3
  •  Sydney Sumner - Investigative Reporter, 'Crime Stories'  

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Shocking close Circuit TV reveals
the beauty queen Kata suspect stalking his first victim. That
is his first victim that we know of. As you know,

(00:22):
the Penn State grad slash beauty queen has gone missing
from her workplace where she worked at a ritzy living
assisted home. You're gonna hear a lot tonight. The car
has been found in the last hours. That gold Toyota

(00:43):
camery driven by suspect Kean King has been found and
the search leaves us to an abandoned middle school, the
Ada Lewis Middle School, joining us live tonight. An investigative
reporter on the story from the beginning CBS is Joe
and I mean to see Grace. This is Crime Stories,

(01:04):
and I want to thank you for being with us.
Where is Kada? You know she had the overnight shift.
She just collected in and it suddenly believes she had
never done anything like that before. Where is Kada? Guys?
So much happening in the search for Kada Scott, the
Miss USA hopeful who represented her area. Not only is

(01:27):
she beauty, she's brains. Could she think her way out
of this kidnapping? According to l E Law enforcement. They
say they believe she could still be alive, and that
is why tonight's broadcast is so important. Let me give

(01:49):
you the tip line right now. It's two one five
six eighty six tips t ips two one five six
eight six eight four seven seven. Look at her? Look
at her? Is she still alive? Can we bring her
home to her parents? Her dad now putting up a
ten thousand dollar reward in connection to evidence leading to

(02:14):
her whereabouts. First of all, I hardly know where to start.
Creeper's chavalance video emerges of him stalking. We think his
first victim could have been his fifth victim for all
I know. But first of all, want to tell you
about the car. This has been the focus of the
search of LA law enforcement since she went missing. Let's

(02:35):
take a look at the recovery of the car. As
you know, guys, this is for our friends at six
ABC Philly. In this it looks a little silver, it's not.
It's actually gold with heavily tinted windows. An anonymous tip
leads police to this. It's a treasure trove of evidence.

(02:58):
If law enforcement believing that Kada was in this car,
God forbid, we find blood. I do not want to
find blood. I'm happy to find fingerprints. I'm happy to
find any other belongings of hers. I don't want to
find her torn clothes or blood in that car. I
want to quickly go to what we are learning about,

(03:20):
not only the car, but physical evidence. Guys. In addition
to physical evidence that is mounting, we have obtained CCTV
closed circuit TV. It looks like a ring camera of
the defendant. We told you about a prior attack where

(03:44):
he strangled another woman, another woman who we've been told
looks very similar to Kada. That's what we call in
the law a similar transaction, and it can be admitted
before a jury after emotion in lemit a hearing outside
the jury presence, if the judge rules your way, because

(04:04):
while he wouldn't be being tried for that, it can
show motive, course of conduct, frame of mind. Now, how
would you like to see this? At your back door window?
Take a look, go away.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
Don't come over here, kidd a quart cups?

Speaker 3 (04:28):
Mm hmmmm?

Speaker 1 (04:33):
Is all these kidding here? Caught of cops? Keep coming
around the window.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
Go that way, camera, Yeah, go away, bye go way, bye,
yep bye bye.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
Ken I know here. That is where I'm at as
for or lsec on TikTok. Just so you know, he
did not go away. Kean King, that's him, goes to
every door and every window of that female victim's home.
I want to look at it on me. Okay, here

(05:17):
is he jumped over the fence to get to her.
He ain't coming to the front door with candy and roses.
He's jumping the fence and look, I don't want to
see that out my window. First thing in the morning.
He's going door to door. And what breaks my heart
is you hear look at that. There's children, there's toys.

(05:38):
She has children in there, and she's saying, call the cops,
Call the cops, Call the cops. She knows to be afraid.
When my husband has been locked out and I go
to let him in, I don't run from the door.
I don't scream call the cops because I'm not afraid.
This woman is afraid. Don't come over here, Cameron, call

(05:59):
the cops. She is telling I think the children to
call nine to one one because she knows what this
guy will do. And that tells me and I'm sure
Veteran defense attorney Derek Smith joining us is going to disagree,
But that tells me this is not the first time.
Why is she so afraid? Why is she afraid? Derek Smith,

(06:20):
I'm gonna circle back to you, guys. That is from
at S four LCC on TikTok, and I'm going to
give you a few moments to gather your thoughts, because
first I'm going to go to Joe Holden. Joe Holden,
she investigative reporter and anchor CBS neiece Philly. Thank you
for waiting, Joe, because I know you're dying to get
back out into the field right now. Did you see
the video?

Speaker 2 (06:40):
There's something so off about that video.

Speaker 4 (06:43):
In fact, we tracked down that house just yesterday on
the streets in North Philadelphia. What is that stats? What
is that body language? What is happening is eyes come
up to that window, and my colleagues in our newsroom
are actually quite terrifying. We know a lot about his

(07:03):
alleged prior bad acts. At this point, he assaulted the
same victim in this incident here. We believe this to
be January. He assaulted the same woman in November. We
were able to uncover traces of charges. Now those charges
are hidden from a view on our our docket system,

(07:27):
something about clean slate business.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
But this happens in November.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
Yahoo, WHOA, whoa, Joe Holden, what did you just say
about a clean slate?

Speaker 4 (07:41):
So we can't get at the charges that were leveled
against this guy, Kean King back in December of twenty
twenty four, as well as an incident that happened in
January of twenty twenty five. The case brought in April
of twenty twenty five gets this withdrawn dismissed, however you
want to phrase it.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
In May of twenty twenty five.

Speaker 4 (08:01):
Guess why we can see these records now, Nancy, because
the District Attorney's office has refiled the charges in light
of their ongoing kidnapping prosecution now and search for Kata Scott.
So it's like the toothpaste is getting squeezed back into
the tube at this point, if that's even the right
way to describe their actions. And the clean slate law

(08:24):
has prohibited our ability to see some of the charges.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
But because okay, that.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
Is so wrong, that is so wrong. Why should you
get he has been stalking these young women hiding behind
the clean slate policy. Guys that video from at S
four LCC on TikTok and another thing. The woman, one
of the women that he assaulted in the past, has

(08:51):
issued a comment on social media saying, I hope they
put you basically under the jail after all you've done,
after all the the hurt youth. Cause I'm gonna pull
it up for you just a moment. But that tells
me while don't show me Derek Smith yet. While Derek
Smith is not gonna like it that there are a

(09:11):
lot of similar transactions, that's certainly putting perfume on the
pig back there. There are other women out there that
are rejoicing he is behind bars for kidnapping Cada. Why
because he has got a history of violating, tormenting, stalking, torturing,
scaring women. I want to look at that video. Oh yeah, okay,

(09:35):
not him. I want to look at that video because
I want to know what can it prove? What is
the probative value one A six foot fence is not
going to stop him. A jump drive over like Spider
Man and here he comes looking you know, that's a
good way to get shot right there. But he's not afraid.

(09:55):
He knows Shu's inside A woman and little children, so hey,
go ahead and terrorize her. He's not worried. And you
see the camera all jumpany because she's running to WNDA
to WNDA, saying go away, go away, and he's not leaving.

(10:16):
I mean, if somebody told me when I went to
their front door, go away, I would be gone. Let's
see nothing but tail hole and elbows. I'm out. But
nothing is stopping him, not a fence, not a locked door,
not a closed window. If Kata Scott was in that car,
what would he do to her? This from at S

(10:38):
four LCC on TikTok. Guys, I'm gonna circle back to
what this video means, but I want to quickly go
you know what, Let's keep running it to see what
else we can learn. Did she actually go to that
window and lock it? Joining me right now is a
long time colleague and dare I say friend, Cheryl McCollum.

(10:58):
She is a forensic expert. She is the director of
the Cold Case Investigative Research Foundation, and she is the
star of a hit podcast series which I have often
put on loop and listened to her Zone seven. Cheryl McCollum,
I will very quickly remind you of the first time
I say that we met, it was when we were

(11:22):
so happy that we could give domestic violence victims their
own cell phone. I didn't even have a cell phone,
and they were about that big. They were huge. They
were like a shoe box, and we were giving them out.
The mayor at that time made a cameo appearance and
we were giving them out in municipal court to domestic

(11:43):
violence victims. That's when nobody even knew what domestic violence
even was. That said, did you see this video? The
reason I brought that story up is you and I
have been fighting domestic violence for so long. This woman
is locked in her home with her children, and she's
screaming to the children. Call the police, Call the police,

(12:03):
because she knows a window and a door are not
going to stop him. A fency sure didn't.

Speaker 5 (12:08):
What about him, McCollum, You already said it beautifully. This
is a pattern. He is not deterred when he is spotted.
He's not deterred when he sees children. He's not deterred
when he knows the police are on the way. This
is so frightening. There is the road chance that there's

(12:29):
not more victims in his twenty one years you're going
to see a clear and distinct pattern of him stalking
and watching.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
Crime stories with Nancy Grace. Derek Smith. You know, Derek,
when our same group joining us tonight were together last
forty eight hours ago, guys us from at S four
LCC on TikTok, we were talking about one prior where

(13:08):
he attacked a woman outside her home, got forced her
into the car, assaulted her. They haven't said whether it
was a beating or a sex assault. We know there
were children in the car, then threw it out of
the car. The reason I brought that up last time,

(13:30):
Derek Smith, is because it was eerily, chillingly similar to
what we think happened to Kita, our brilliant beauty queen.
People have been writing, why are you talking about beauty queen? Well,
because she's beautiful on the outside and the inside, and
a scholar had graduated with very high grades from Penn State.

(13:52):
Her world in front of her. So, Derek Smith, now
we're learning about not one, but two priors. You heard
Joe Holdens say we can't even get the whole record
because of some clean slate policy. So who knows what
is lurking in his record?

Speaker 6 (14:09):
What about it, Smith, Well, Nancy, you mentioned these alleged
acts that this man perpetrated.

Speaker 7 (14:15):
Was he convicted of.

Speaker 6 (14:16):
These crimes at all? Because if not, they're just merely allegations.
And then watching his video of him jumping the fence, Okay,
he walks up to the window. We didn't have a
weapon on him. He didn't seem to be frightened or concerned.

Speaker 7 (14:32):
Why was he there?

Speaker 6 (14:33):
Would it change your perception of the video play received
if you received a text message from the homeowner saying, hey,
somebody's in here, come help me out, and then he
showed up to help, you didn't seem like he.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
Was trying to make keep him locked down and call
the police when he showed up.

Speaker 7 (14:54):
Let's get to another aspect of this.

Speaker 6 (14:55):
I mean you prosecuted domestic violence and stalking type cases before.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
Wait wait, hey, hey, hey Smith, I'm not a speed bomp.
You just don't roll over me and keep going. I
ask you, why did you even spin out that total
technical legal term bs that maybe there was a text
from the woman the victim, asking him to come help
her with an intruder. No, she says, go away. Do

(15:26):
I need to spell that out for you? She did
not call him over. She's locking the doors in the windows?
What what what are you saying?

Speaker 7 (15:36):
Did that look like she was very afraid?

Speaker 1 (15:38):
She walked over.

Speaker 7 (15:38):
She was right by the window.

Speaker 6 (15:39):
If she was afraid he was coming in there, why
wouldn't she be cowering in fear calling the police.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
She's following him from window to window making sure. Look
everybody's running. They're all running. Okay, Now can I go
back to general?

Speaker 6 (15:55):
She's looking at him, and then he pulls out his phone,
maybe to ask her, Hey, why aren't you answering the door?
You called me over here, you need my help, and
now you're not answering. We don't know any of that.
Have we got the phone?

Speaker 7 (16:04):
Wrunckers. Have we seen any conversations between these two? We're
jumping to conclusions here now, are we.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
She filed a criminal complaint against.

Speaker 7 (16:11):
Him, and what was he convicted?

Speaker 1 (16:16):
She became afraid and with Drew. You know what, you
can go in and cut his mic to his face.
Right now, I'm going to put him in the corner
and give him time to think about what he just said.
Doctor Jerry land Utter joining us Utter. Doctor Utter, clinical
psychologists specializing and evaluation and risk assessments in the criminal

(16:37):
justice system. Okay, I actually as much HGBL as I
give him respect, Derek Smith. He's won a lot of cases,
which is not easy to do because he can spin
out these scenarios and get one Jarra on the hook
and they believe it. What is concerning me? Let's fast

(16:58):
forward from that last similar transaction we were showing one
of I believe many to Kada. How is it that
these people, these perps real in young women. What how
do they fall for them? Did he force her in
the car, because that's what he did to the other victims.

(17:21):
Did he lure her in? Did he offer her I don't.
I don't know why she was in the car. All
I know is she's gone now after she was in
that car.

Speaker 8 (17:31):
Yeah, I mean there's a lot of unknowns as far
as you know, Kata going going willingly with him. In
my opinion, based upon what we know and what we've
seen about Kata and what we know about Kean, I
don't see her as being the type of young lady
that would willingly go anywhere with somebody like this. When
you look at the video and you watch him and

(17:52):
his and his stance, it's almost as like he's taunting
the poor women in that video, and they're very form
familiar with the behavior because she very clearly says it's Keon,
so she knows, you know, who he is. She's familiar
with the behavior, and she's she's afraid. I don't care
what Derek says. You can clearly see that this person

(18:12):
is afraid because she wants the cops called. So in
my opinion, as far as him luring her in a
charming way or trying to coerce her in a charming
way to go into the vehicle or to leave with him,
I just don't see that. Based upon some of the
behaviors that I'm looking at in this video, and also
through learning about Cadaen her personality, and then also some

(18:34):
of the events, you know that she was scared that
she was being harassed potentially by him. We don't know
for sure.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
To utter utters? Can you to utter? I need you
to comment on something. Look at the video. He jumps
over and these tops like a superhero and then like
points okay, I want to emphasize he jumps over and
stops dramatic effect, you know, like a superhero lands coming

(18:59):
from another gallic see and then points at the victim.
What is that.

Speaker 8 (19:05):
He's taunting? I mean, this is a pattern of behavior.
This is what we see with people that demonstrate predatory behavior.
This is part of he's liking this. He's getting off
on this.

Speaker 5 (19:18):
He jumps over.

Speaker 8 (19:18):
He kind of he looks like the Marvel hero. He
puts his hand back and it's almost like, yeah, I'm here,
and then he structs. If you look at the video,
he continues to kind of have like a swagger or
a strut. He knew exactly what he was doing, and
it's part of the tactics. He's taunting. He's trying to
instill fear, and he successfully does it, regardless as to

(19:40):
whether or not he is somebody that's familiar to those women.
You can see that they are afraid because they're asking
the call the cops. They're not opening up the window
and saying, hey, ke On, get the hell out of here.
They're afraid because they have probably experienced what's to come next,
which is an escalation and behavior.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
At S four LCC on TikTok Joe hold and joining
US chief investigative reporter and anchor CBS News Philly, who
has been looking for Kada from the very beginning. You
know what's I mean? Some of that is laughable. Jumping
over the fence, light and landing like a superhero, but
nothing is stopping him. Joe a fence which was over

(20:21):
six feet tall, lot doors, lot windows, hurt yelling, go away, screaming,
call police, running through the house, through children who had
to be afraid, and he looked like he was enjoying it.
Doctor Jerry len Utter was just saying that the thrill.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
Was the second time he was there.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
That time I was scaring someone.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
Here's the document, right, you don't really see it, but he.

Speaker 4 (20:49):
Was there at twelve thirty that morning, January thirteenth of
this year.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
He makes a whole ruckus in that backyard.

Speaker 4 (20:57):
And then same day, three point thirty in the afternoon,
climbs the same yard fence looking into windows. We see
the video plane. But let me punctuate where I find
even more chilling detail. The mail is known to carry
a black block and gun. He made several threats to
kill the complainant and a witness present. He does not

(21:18):
have an address in stays where it is available. All
of that detail follows the narrative that police lay out
in this criminal complaint where he forces this victim into
his car. He drives at a high rate of speed
with his own two year old in that car. They're
driving from this location in North Philadelphia down towards Center

(21:40):
City and he is choking and allegedly biting the woman
in the face before he dumps her at the seven
hundred block of Gerard Avenue. So she gets away with
her life. According to investigators, at.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
S fourlcc tic time, we know her.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
Phone goes dead. It has not been on since. She
is not seen after that.

Speaker 4 (22:01):
This sparkly beautiful twenty three year old woman, This.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
Girl has just turned twenty three. She's a little baby tonight.
Where is Kada? There is a ten thousand dollar reward
for information leading to her discovery. Her parents distraught as
you can imagine, this Penn State grad with fantastic grades

(22:26):
the world in front of her goes missing from her
work place. A ritzy assisted living. Guys, not only have
we fleshed out not one, but two, and we believe
there are other similar transactions. Past attacks always on women,
very often involving his vehicle, wrestling them into the car,

(22:51):
strangling them. Did he allow Kada to live? I want
to go to to other evidence that it happened overnight.

Speaker 9 (23:03):
Hours after Philadelphia PD ask for help locating King's Toyota,
a resident at Gypsy Lane Condos remembers a car matching
that description parked in a lot.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
Almost a week.

Speaker 9 (23:13):
Officers descend on the community where King's family lives, coording
off the parking lot to search it.

Speaker 10 (23:18):
Cec information that there might be se evidence at this school.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
Which is not far from the Aubadon that we have.

Speaker 11 (23:26):
Plus Friday, acting on a tip, officers search across the
street at the now abandoned Ada Lewis Middle School. During
a grid search outside the locked building, they recover some
of Kata's belongings, her debit card and pink phone case.

Speaker 10 (23:40):
Truly, after arriving out of here, we're located some physical
evidence which ties the shots to the Seabo C thirty
six A shild.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
A lot of that from our friends at CBS Philadelphia
and from CBS Philadelphia joining us right now, anchor and
investigative reporter, CHEF investigative reporter who is helping in the
search for Kata, Joe Holden. That's a lot of information.
I understand that an anonymous tip came in not only

(24:12):
about the vehicle, but about a place called Ada Lewis
Middle School. What can you tell me, not only about that,
how that fits in with the arboretum, which is fifty
six acres of nothing but trees?

Speaker 2 (24:28):
Correct?

Speaker 4 (24:29):
And you know what, we were at the arboretum the
last Friday, and then this location of this Ada Lewis
middle School that's.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
Been shut down since two thousand and eight, felt like
we were in the middle of a horror movie.

Speaker 4 (24:39):
Someone calls police and says, an hour after they hold
a news conference searching for that car and announcing the
arrest of Keon King, police are told you better go
and check out the middle school. We know that police
have recovered two pieces of critical personal evidence tying Kada
Scott to the property.

Speaker 2 (24:59):
Of the middle school.

Speaker 4 (25:00):
Once again, the middle school sitting yards away from Aubury Arboretum.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
Where they searched a week ago. And then fast forward.

Speaker 4 (25:08):
Now there's the middle school on your screen, and tell
me you're not freaked out by those pictures. Police trying
to devise a plan of how to go into a
building that's been shut down for almost twenty years, an
abandoned school building. I mean it has all of the
markers of what's next in this case.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
Guys, this video from our friends at six ABC Philadelphia.
But I want to save my control room. Could please
send me back to the before shot of Ada Lewis
Middle School and it's heyday and we got this off
their website. It was a beautiful school. But listen to
this and the school itself.

Speaker 10 (25:46):
We're a team entry.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
It's three floors, it's a large school.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
And see a lot of area cover where Nick Burley said.

Speaker 11 (25:54):
The abandoned middle school where Philadelphia Police recovered physical evidence
placing Kata Scott there has been closed since two thousand
and eight. The school district still owns the graffiti covered building,
reportedly well secured, police having to request assistance to get inside.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
That video from CBS Philadelphia. I want to go back
to what Joe Holden was saying about it looks like
a horror movie, a nightmare. It's now well, it's defunct,
it has been condemned. It's an abandoned building. Now there
it is key watch. Okay, can you imagine our Kida

(26:33):
Scott in that building. This is from our friends, it's
six ABC Philly. And there you saw the lead investigator
in a suit walking in followed by a lot of uniforms,
and those uniforms are high level. You can tell by
their hats if they've got chevrons on their sleeves or
leafs on their collar. Him. What of Kada's Scott's belongings

(26:59):
were found and there, Joe Holden.

Speaker 2 (27:01):
So we know that they are very personal in nature.

Speaker 4 (27:05):
In fact, would not be partying with these things unless
she was in some serious trouble police not specifying exactly what,
but reading between the lines, perhaps something involving her cell phone,
perhaps something involving a bank card or something connected to that.

Speaker 3 (27:26):
That is Kate.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
Do you is it a I've got a question, Sidney Sumner,
Crime Stories, investigative reporter, Sidney, you and I were discussing
was it a cell phone case? Have we gotten that?

Speaker 12 (27:37):
Unofficially yes, sorciers are saying that it was her cell
phone case and Keita's debit card in cell phone case.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
So Joe Holden, that fits in with what you're hearing,
a cell phone case and a debit card. And I
want to go to Brian Fitzgibbons joining us He is
Director of Operations at USPA Nationwide Security and what he
does there as director is. He leads a team of
expert investigators to find missing people all around the world

(28:10):
at USPA Security dot Com. Brian Hell would freeze over
before either one of my twins would part with their
cell phone. Do you know how much time my daughter
spends finding the right cell phone case? My son just
gets a black or a navy one? Is over No,

(28:33):
because have you seen go with me on this for
a moment, Fitzgibbons chauffit is Gibbons in case he hasn't
seen it. Kaita like getting all dressed up and doing
her fashion videos, which, by the way, people are attacking
her online for and I don't get it. She was
such a star in these videos. She loves getting dressed up,

(28:55):
matching her necklace to her purse and her shoes. She's
a glamor girl, you know, Ryan Fitzkimms. This is where
I'm going that she had a special phone case. Why
is her phone case on the floor of the defunct

(29:18):
condemned Ada Lewis Middle School building.

Speaker 13 (29:25):
I suspect Nancy that king ditched that cell phone case
there and then went on to sell the phone. And
I think that that will be something that comes out
in this investigation that he could have kept the phone
to sell it and wanted to get rid of the case,
which would have been easily identifiable. You know, I think

(29:47):
you can actually see the case there with a lot
of you know, it's bedazzled on the outside. We don't
know if that's the same case that she had at
the time of her disappearance, but the case would be
easily recognized, so that for King to do.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
Now, I'm understanding that Sydney, some of the items were
found outside that condemned building, right, so.

Speaker 12 (30:16):
We don't believe police are saying they don't believe that
Scott or King made it inside the building. Police had
to request access themselves to get in, so this building
was likely well secured. So these items were found outside
the building. That's what police are telling us, you know.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
To Cheryl McCollum, joining US, director and founder of the
Cold Case Research Institute and star of Zone seven hit podcast, Cheryl,
the last time, I mean you and I have covered well,
we didn't cover them, we investigated them. It's hard for
me to think I'm looking at Kata right now, Cheryl,

(30:55):
I don't know if you can see your monitor, It's
hard for me to imagine her at this condemned building.
But Cheryl, you and I investigated a lot of cases.
Whenever I hear abandoned building in connection to a case,
Cherlott brings back some really bad memories of cases you
and I investigated. Why is she at an abandoned building.

Speaker 5 (31:16):
One hundred so criminals know where there are no people
and no cameras. So it's not a surprise to me
with his patterned background that he knew about this abandoned
school where he discarded her personal belongings. Her belongings that
are at that abandoned school. Does her bank card have

(31:36):
this fingerprint? Is his DNA on the phone case? Anything
that can tie him to those belongings is what law
enforcement is looking for now.

Speaker 4 (31:46):
Keon King, he is charged with Kita's kidnapping.

Speaker 6 (31:50):
Put some heat on him to question him as to
where Kita is. Find this girl?

Speaker 1 (31:54):
Where was he? Where had he been? Is he keeping
her alive somewhere? Where is Kata? Tip line two on
five six eight six tips repeat two and five six
eight six eight four seven seven l E law enforcement
insisting they believe she may still be alive. Where is she? Overnight?

(32:22):
We learn that not one but two cases of assault
on women that looks similar to Kata Scott that involve
his vehicle, and alleged strangulation have occurred. That's two that
we know of. Also the car found, But where, why there?

(32:46):
And what can we learn about the car? Straight back
out to chief investigative reporter and anchor CBS News Philadelphia,
Joe Holden, tell me about the car, and I'd like
to see the video of that aerial video of the vehicle.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
Go ahead, Joe, let me give you the timeline.

Speaker 4 (33:04):
So police hold a press conference at ten thirty, ask
everyone to look for that car, and then by twelve
thirty they're back at that middle school that looks just
plain scary. And then at three ten in the afternoon,
So four hours after, four or five hours after their
press conference, someone says, I saw that car parked on

(33:26):
the four thousand block of Gypsy Lane, in a street
that essentially dead ends at Lincoln Drive. If you're familiar,
I know Nancy lived in Chestnut Hill for a time.
Someone had to have their eyes open.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
They saw it. They called Philadelphia Police.

Speaker 4 (33:40):
Phildelphia police leave Ada Lewis Middle School and rush over
to the four thousand block of Gypsy Lane where the
car is parked. There is obviously, as you've said, a
potential wealth of evidence in that car. My investigative sources
say they are looking for DNA inside the car and
inside the truck.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. You know another thing that
happened overnight. Joe Holden joining us from CBS. Philly prosecutors
say that they made a quote mistake by not following
through with the earlier charges. Well, that's a day late

(34:27):
and a dollar short. They tried to blame it on
the victim for an FTA failure to appear. When a
woman doesn't show up in a domestic, okay, this is
what you do. Back me up on this, doctor Jerlyn
Utter joining us, Doctor Utter, when a woman doesn't show

(34:48):
up on an FTA and a domestic, you go find
her because in my experience, by the time I got them,
of course, they weren't just a slap or pushing somebody over.
They were full on felony, if not a murder. You
go find them, and you prosecute that case, and you
make it clear to the defendant she wants to drop charges,

(35:09):
don't take it out on her. I'm prosecuting you. Sob
That's usually the way I would handle it, and it worked,
but they didn't. So now they're kind of saying like,
she didn't come to court, so we dropped it. No,
go get her.

Speaker 8 (35:28):
I mean, go get her for sure, Nancy. But the
other thing too. I mean, this is obviously a victim
of a serious crime. She was hurt by this man.
She's afraid of this man, so it does make sense.
I mean victims, they become afraid.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
Right, afraid of retaliation. Cheryl McCollum. Hold on, let me
pick up right there from what doctor Utter just said.
Cheryl McCollum, I want to get back to the car
and off the victims shaming aspect. This car could be
a treasure trove. We're also learning in addition to her
debit card and phone case, so we've heard rumors that

(36:02):
an ipay case in Kata's glasses were found in that
abandoned school. Now connection it's near the arboretum. But to
the car, somebody let him into the parking lot. You
have to be allowed in. This is near where his

(36:23):
family lives. Go ahead, what can we learn from the car.
There's two categories.

Speaker 5 (36:27):
I'm looking at Nancy in that vehicle. The first one,
anything that I can tie the victim to. Can I
put that victim in that vehicle. I'm looking for blood, hair, fingerprints,
anything that belongs to the victim, clothing, if there was
a struggle, did a shoe come off, anything, an earring.
The second category is going to be something that was

(36:48):
used in the commission of that crime. Is there a
weapon or there restraints, notes, drawings, a hotel room key,
a receipt, did he buy food for the two of them,
anything where I can say, hey, this is unusual. One
of the best things we have right now is he
has not reported that car stolen.

Speaker 7 (37:08):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (37:10):
Yes, just like in the case of Celeste in D
four v. D aka David Anthony Burke, who never reported
his Tesla stolen or missing, and then Celeste's body was
in the trunk. Yes, that raises a red flag. The
car wasn't stolen. He didn't report it stolen. Cheryl McCallum,
have you ever watched if you don't do it yourself,

(37:31):
have you ever watched somebody change your oil in your vehicle? Yes? No, yes, Okay.
They will take this car, this Toyota Camery, and they
will put it up like they're changing the oil and
they're going to look hundred for blood. Just like in
the case of Nicky Chen they found the undercarriage of

(37:55):
her truck saturated in blood, but you have to put
it up and look. They're going to get soil off
the tires. Will it help Maybe not, because that car
has been many miles since Katea went missing. They're going
to go through it with a vack, a VAC that

(38:15):
is relatively a new technique to pull up DNA invisible
to the naked eye, over the carpet, over the floor mats,
over the seats. It can pull up DNA that you
can't see, such as blood. You might see that. They're
going to look for sweat. Let me remind you of

(38:35):
the case of Teresa Holback, the photographer who was last
seen at the home of killer Steven Avery. When they
found her car hidden at the back of a salvage lot.
It had his sweat DNA over the ignition where he

(38:56):
was sweating trying to crank her car up to go
hide it. He's convicted. They're going to let for sweat, blood,
hair fibers. Then they're going to illuminoll the whole thing
looking for iron oxide that shows up under an ultraviolet

(39:16):
luminol light, Fingerprints, clothing, anything, a shee, a shoe, lice,
a bracelet, a ring, a hairclip. That's what's happening in
that car right now. Agree or disagree? Pasgibbers.

Speaker 13 (39:34):
Absolutely agree, Nancy, and you know you brought up Nikki
Chang Sale McCain. Let's hope that this investigation is done
meticulously because as we know, and we hope and pray
that Cada.

Speaker 2 (39:49):
Is found alive.

Speaker 13 (39:51):
But we want to make sure that if there needs
to be a prosecution for a homicide, that this is
done correctly.

Speaker 1 (39:58):
Right now, plays, don't put the car before the horse.
Let's try to find her alive. Imagine my shock late
last night when I was reading comments online looking for
any information about Kata and I saw this. These young
girls and women need to stop doing these things, exposing
themselves to evil, modeling, pagets, cheerleading, any social media. Okay,

(40:21):
so I guess that's what I was doing as a
high school cheerleader when I didn't make the basketball team.
Are they crazy? I read another one that says I
tried to watch crime stories, but I had to stop
at thirteen thirty seven. I was tired of watching Kada
Scott prancing around. I don't understand that two special guests

(40:47):
joining us. Joe Holden, Chief investigative reporter and anchor, CBS
News Philly. The degree of victim blaming is intense. And
you know what, it's just like this. I want to
see Joe, but I want to see Cada prancing. She's gorgeous,
she's twenty three. She's a baby girl playing in makeup.

(41:11):
She just turned twenty three. All right, that is happening, Joe.
How did she turn into the bad person.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
He is not?

Speaker 4 (41:20):
And you know what, let me give you some hope
for at least the corner of our world.

Speaker 2 (41:24):
Here in Philadelphia.

Speaker 4 (41:25):
I have an entire city I'm aware of looking for
any sign of this girl. So let the haters live
online and in social media. But there is a five
thousand and six thousand member Philadelphia Police Department, at District
Attorney's office, and people like me and you looking out
and trying to get to the bottom of this really

(41:47):
nauseating mystery.

Speaker 1 (41:49):
Derek Smith, veteran trial lawyer, won a lot of cases
at d devismith Legal dot com. I don't want to
hear it, but we have to hear it. If this
case goes to trial, Derek, you know what you're going
to do? What will the defense to do, because the
state's got to be ready not just with their case,
but to destroy the defense case. So where would you

(42:11):
go on.

Speaker 7 (42:12):
This well, I mean on the defense side of things.

Speaker 6 (42:14):
If there's no physical evidence, if they don't find anything
outside that school, if they don't find anything inside the car,
how are they really going to connect the victim to
the alleged perpetrator.

Speaker 7 (42:23):
I mean, they have that other.

Speaker 6 (42:24):
Video and you said, like transactions, similar alleged events that
he's done with other similar victims, but again never convicted
of any of these things. It's just speculation at this point.
So I mean, they're going to really have to do,
like one of our other panelists said, a very particulous
search of this vehicle, do anything they can to try
to find evidence, whether it's you know, like you said,

(42:47):
the blood, the sweat, anything to connect the two of
them in this gold Corolla being together. Because without any
physical evidence, we're just looking at circumstantial evidence and that's
not going to be enough.

Speaker 1 (43:01):
How can there be hatred for this girl who is missing?
All things bright and beautiful. That is Kata Scott, god
willing Phillip d brings her home alive again. The tip
line two one five, six eight six tips two one
five six, eight six eight four seven seven. Tonight we

(43:28):
remember American heroes, people that put their lives on the
line to come forward. If prosecutors had gone and gotten
the first two victims and they had testified without fear,
maybe Kada would be alive today joining us tonight detailing

(43:51):
how she outsmarted her kidnapper. That did not happen, But tonight,
I want to honor all the stalking, the battery, the beating,
the rape victims that do come forward, even if they're
afraid win or lose. We saw what happened in the

(44:11):
Seawan Combs case. A win is not guaranteed, but they
fight the good fight tonight. They are our heroes. Please
join us in prayer for the safe return of this girl,
Bright and beautiful Kata Scott. Nancy Grace signing off, goodbye friend,
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