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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, a gut wretching plea tonight
from a father desperate to find his daughter. Sixteen year
old Haley Burns disappeared from her Valentine home Sunday night.
She has aspergers, and her family says she left with
a man she met online, who they believe is twice
her age. She has not been heard from since. I
(00:27):
don't think she realizes how much she's loved, but there
are a lot of people out here that really want
her home. A teen girl goes missing and we learn
the worst. We learned that she has been held in
captivity in a cage for over a year. I want justice,
(00:53):
I mean see Grace. This is Crime Stories. Take a
listen to our friend Syriah Blake Morgan at wb TV.
Verywhere you look in this Valentine neighborhood, you'll see the
face of a girl who lives here until her parents
say she chose to lead. You can't understand how it
feels until you're in it. Philey's father, Anthony Byrne, says
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his sixteen year old vanished from her bedroom Sunday night.
My wife opened the door and she was not there.
She left a diary behind that, Anthony says, detailed a
plan to run away with a thirty two year old
she met online. He gradually wormed his way into her
good graces. He coerced her to start listening to him
(01:37):
and not following our direction. How did it happen? How
did a teen girl end up being held in captivity
for over a year, being denied food, being subjected to
water torture. Why? And in a stunning, stunning blow to
(01:57):
Lady Justice, the guy who makes off with her, Michael Wislovski,
is walking free. Let's start at the beginning. But I
want to introduce to you Helly, the victim in this case,
the teen girl mother, Shawna Burns and her father, Anthony Burns,
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both joining us today, and I think I've got a
lot to learn from them. With me. Troy Slayton, renowned
California defense lawyer. Stephen Lampley detective. You can find him
at Stephen Lampley dot com, ellen Clorian Crime online dot com,
investigative reporter. Let's start with Halley's mother, Shauna Burns. Tell
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me about the moment you discover, Helly, your little girl
is gone. You know, your little girl was just a
couple of years older than my twins. And after studying
Hally's case yesterday and the investigative five, can I tell
you once again I slept in their room last night
(03:04):
and just stared at them up all night. I'm so
distraught about Haley, Seana. When did you realize Haley was gone?
I went in. It was a Monday morning, and I
went in to get her up for school. Haley went
to a school that was out of our district, so
it was about a two hour drive. So it's about
five thirty in the morning, so it was dark in
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the house. No one else was awake, and I went
into her room and wait, wait, wait, So it's five
thirty in the morning. Okay, it has to still be
dark outside, miss Burns. So you're saying you walked up
to her bed and she wasn't there. What did you do?
First of all, where is she normally at five thirty
in the morning in her bed? She's sleeping in her bed.
(03:46):
Does she sleep with a night light? No, So you
can walk in and you can see immediately whether she's
in the bed. Yeah, yeah, I immediately knew she was
not in her bed. What did you do at that moment?
I started searching other places in the house that I
thought she might have moved to, like the couch or
sometimes she sleeps, and that we have another bed in
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another room that she sleeps in. So I started searching
all of the reasonable places that she could have moved
to in the middle of the night to sleep. And
after quickly going through those places, I started frantically searching
everywhere in the house. I even looked inside of my minivan,
thinking that she might have gone to sleep in there.
(04:27):
And after about a minute, I just got a visual
of you right now outside in the dark. Because when
I load up the minivan in the morning, it's always
still dark outside. And the first couple of times I
would go outside and I think, oh my goodness, it's cold,
it's dark, and I'd run to the card load up
all the twins stuff, and i'd run back in. But
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now it's a blessing. I go out and I'll look
up at the stars and I think about all my
blessings and what has turned turned from a chore into
a blessing. And I'm imagining you going, Okay, so she's
on the sofa, You go to the sofa. She's not
on the sofa. You go to the spare bedroom. She's
(05:10):
not in there. You go look in the bathroom. Is
she in there? No, she's not. Go look at the
bed again. Okay, she's not in the blankets. I was right.
Then you're outside looking in the mini van. What was
going through your mind? What feelings were pulsing through your body?
She has to be here somewhere, She has to be
here somewhere. I just have to find her. That was
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the idea that she had left, or that she wasn't
here never even crossed my mind. I knew that she
was here and I just had to find her. So
I searched the entire house. Pretty big house, so it
took me about thirty forty minutes to do that. And
then after searching every square into the house and establishing
that she wasn't here, that's when I woke my husband
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up and I came into our bedroom and I said,
Tony Hayley's not here. And he immediately jumped out of
bed and said, what do you mean is that she's
not here? And so we both started separately. We separated,
and we just started systematically searching every square inch of
this house. Oh my stars, Shauna, I've got chills all
(06:16):
over my body right now. In faith, I felt a
wave of nausea when you said I just can't look
at him because I thought she's got to be here. Well,
of course she has to be there. And you know,
I've told a story a million times about when my
son John David went missing and the babies or us,
but ever since that, and because the nature of my business,
(06:39):
when I can't find them, when they're not where they're
supposed to be, I immediately get distraught. To Anthony Burns,
this is Helly's dad. Do you remember that moment that
Shauna comes out. I'm sure it's still dark, probably getting
now around six six fifteen. What happened in your mind?
What's your recollection? I? Um, you know, even sitting here
(07:03):
right now, I'm tearing up a little bit, Nancy, because um,
as a parent, you never you know, my daughter never
tried to run away before, or never been lured away before.
It's a better way to put it. Um, you know,
as soon as my wife, I'm so glad you just
said that. That's got to be clear. This child did
(07:23):
not run away. She was lured by an online predator.
She is a child in the eyes of the law.
And when your wife grabbed you by the shoulder out
of a deep sleep and said, Healey is gone. What
(07:44):
went through your mind? Anthony? I literally I heard the
distress in her voice. It was something I had never
heard before. I literally jumped out of the bed onto
one foot, and I remember I think I twisted my ankles.
I jumped out, but I ran out of bed and
I went to her bedroom. I couldn't see her in there.
I was just kind of waking up, and I went downstairs.
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As I went downstairs, I looked at our front door,
and the front door was unlocked, and it was a
little bit left adrift. And at that point I knew,
take a listen to our friend Siaha Blake Morgan at WBTV.
Police are investigating, but Byrne says they don't have any
real leads on the man he believes took his daughter.
(08:26):
There's no telling who he is. He might not be
thirty two, he could be fifty five and running a
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(10:23):
Time Stories with Nancy Grace. A teen girl suffering with
Asperger's is lured out of her home. Take a listen
to Aerial Placincia WCNC Charlotte. The seventeen year old disappeared
(10:45):
from her home back on May twenty third, twenty sixteen.
Her family told us then she has Asperger syndrome and
left home without her medication. Last year, her family told
NBC Charlotte they tried to limit their daughter's use of
the computer after discovering she had been talking to stream online.
According to The Observer, Burne's father said she left a
diary behind the detailed a plan to run away with
(11:06):
a thirty two year old man she met online. Her
family says she did not have a cell phone, but
still they believe she was able to communicate with someone
and left to meet that person. A teen girl lured
out of her home that with the safety of her
mother and father where they watch over her taking a
two hour trek every morning to a special school to
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help Haley Burns to help her achieve, to help her
succeed to just push her one inch further in life,
doing everything they can to help her so she can
be happy in life after they're gone. And then one morning,
(11:49):
five thirty am, Mom Seana goes in to find Haley
is gone. The two ransack the house, the yard, the
men even and no heally and with me right now.
In addition Detroit Slayton, Stephen Lampley, and Ellen Klauren Helely's parents,
Shawna and Anthony Burns. Anthony, you were just telling me
(12:13):
that you are searching frantically. You've twisted your ankle jumping
out of bed. You're looking for her. Well, you know
the next thing is we've got two other children, and
you know we don't want to distress them because we
know that we've got a very major problem on her hands.
I go up to her room, I actually look in
her bed, and at that point I realized that the
(12:34):
only thing left in her bed are a big pile
of stuffed animals where she should have been sleeping. When
you see that door unlocked and slightly a jar, what
goes through your mind? I knew she was gone. With
it with my wife coming in and telling me that
she wasn't where she should be. And that was extremely unusual,
as was the fact that my front door was open,
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which you know, I locked the door every night. I
knew someone had left through the front door. Either someone
had come in the front door or someone had walked
out of the front door. I didn't know at that point.
You know what, You know what, Anthony. I'm almost through
with a book I'm writing called Don't Be a Victim,
Fighting Back against America's Crime Wave, and one of the
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chapters is safe at Home. And I've studied and studied
and studied. I've prosecuted. I can't even tell you how many,
literally thousands of cases of home burglaries, kidnaps, you name it.
That's one of the main things I know. It sounds
so simple. Lock your doors and windows. I mean, I
(13:37):
got fifty other chips. But when you saw that door
unlocked and slightly ajar If I saw that, I would
know immediately because before I go to bed every night,
even though my husband has already checked it, I rechecked
the entire house. I checked the alarm, I checked the windows,
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I checked the car outside, I check the garage, everything,
And it doesn't take long. You just do a walk
through by now, I can look at a door at
fifteen feet and I can tell if the deadbolt is
on by which way it's turned. I mean, so you
do that every single night, Yes, every single night. And
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we have three doors. I lock them all. I make
sure every wind is closed, you know, for air conditioning reasons.
I mean, you know, we pay for pay for what
we don't we consume. So I make sure the house.
I have a system every single day. And can I
just ask you, out of curiosity, neither here nor there,
what's your system? Okay? My system of checking the house
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is I basically, will I clean up everything right before
I go to bed. I make sure all the dishes
are done and everything else, like we all do to
the kids. When they get up, they walk into a
nice clean environment. And then I go through each door systematically,
usually our garage, make sure it's closed. Okay. Can I
just stop you again, Anthony, I do the same exact thing.
I cannot stand to walk get up and walk in.
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I get about five five thirty every morning, and cms
I don't think the children or my husband, definitely not
my husband. But if it were a pigsty, they'd walk
through and they wouldn't notice the thing I'm guaranteeing you that,
but it would push push me over the edge. So
every night, the dan the kitchen that everything has to
be in place, and Nate, yes, yes, absolutely, So if
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I see one thing at a place the next morning,
I know something went haywire. I mean, I'm not clean
freak about it, but but but I like things to
be a certain way so that the kids have the
same exact experience, you know, and the expectation every day
that life starts the same way that they like. Well,
they love it that way. I want to interrupt here
because jump in Shot are twins. One of our twins
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has autism and they are very routine driven. They are
very routine from him. So he sets everything up at
night so that I have an easy morning when I
give them up. Our routine is easy to follow because
he's set us up for it the night before. So
it's not so much that he's really particular, it's just
it because of our routine driven child. We have a
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pretty strict routine and he is not like he checks it.
He does it every night. You know what, Shauna, I'm
learning something from you. I'm learning something from you because
I always say to my husband we have to keep
them in a routine, a routine. They got to know
that on Monday, this happens. Tuesday, this happens. When they
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wake up, this happens, they go to bed this time.
Blah blah. Although I slide on the bedtime because it's
a foundation, a security thing that you know, you understand
your life is not chaos. But you guys have Halley
with Asperger's. I did not know one of your twins
was autistic as well. All of our routine is so important, Shanna,
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of our one of them has Asperger's and the others
has autism and haliols. Yeah, all three of our kids
are on the spectrum and routine is And I grew
up in foster care, so I grew up in a
very chaotic, no stability situation. So I understand the importance
of stability for children and knowing how safe and how
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important it is for them to feel safe in order
to be safe. So that's one of the reasons why.
And we are so routine driven in all you just
and if I could break in, I grew up in
a very very conservative, very you know, strong family background
that taught me, you know that to have kind of
a system and a structure for each day, and that
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you know, do everything a certain way and things work out.
That's what I was always taught. You know, it's just
actually bringing me to tears. And it's Troy Slight in
California Defense Attorney. Um, you have children? Are you hearing
this about routine? And what's so ironic is Shanna and
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Anthony go to such great links to try to make
everything just right to raise their children with these challenges
that they have Asperger's autism, and then the worst happens, Troy,
I mean, weigh in on how they're trying to raise them. Nancy,
(18:29):
my heart breaks for them. I too have two children,
and although they're not on the autism spectrum, like they're
fine children, I do the same exact thing. We're getting
the kitchen ready every night, trying to do a routine
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and raise them the best that we can. And then
to have something as horrific as having your child be gone,
I can't even imagine. I I can't imagine what they've
betten through the yellow ribbons on each mailbox on Baldwin
Hall Drive starting to fade as a days turned into weeks,
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weeks turning into months more than a year would buy
with no sign of Haley. But this community ever gave
up hope. It kind of died down On the law
enforcement side, I know they they just kept pushing through.
No investigators haven't said how Haley and Wisulovsky met, but
her parents said she'd been talking to strangers online and
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tried to limit her access not long before she would
miss it. It's scary because this is a good area,
and it just shows that it can happen to anybody,
which makes it even scarier. It was the worst feeling
you could ever imagine. You feel completely out of control.
You don't know what to do, you just panic. This
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right now. Shauna and Anthony Burns the mom and dad
of Haley. Troy Slayton, California defense lawyer Stephen Lampley detective
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at Stephen Lampley dot com and Crime online dot Com.
Investigative reporter Ellen Klaurin. Take a listen to our friend
Sarah Blake Morgan at WBTV. A gut wrenching plea tonight
from a father desperate to find his daughter. A sixteen
year old Haley Burns disappeared from her Valentine home Sunday night.
She has aspergers, and her family says she left with
a man she met online who they believe is twice
(22:26):
her age. She has not been heard from since. Our
Sarah Blake Morgan has more on this family's fear and
warning to others. I don't think she realizes how much
she's loved, but there are a lot of people out
here that really want her home. You can't understand how
it feels till you're in it. Haley's father, Anthony Byrne,
says his sixteen year old vanished from her bedroom Sunday night.
My wife opened the door and she was not there.
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Police are investigating, but Byrne says they don't have any
real leads. One the man he believes took his daughter.
There's no telling who he is. He might not be
thirty two, he could be fifty five and a human
trafficking organization. There's no tell, Shawna and Anthony to you, Shawna,
So after you determined she's gone, what do you do? Well,
(23:10):
we have two other children in the home that we
did not want to upset. So the first thing that
we did was we got them up early, earlier than usual.
We got them up, we went for our routeam, we
brushed our teeth, we got them at their bookbacks, we
got them to school. The second that they got out
of the van, I called nine one one and said,
we need to get police here, because at that point
we still didn't know what had happened. We just knew
(23:31):
she was missing. So by the time I got home
from dropping them off at the school, which is five
minutes away, Tony was already here. The police were on
their way, and then from them, the investigation began. Now
let me ask you this that night, after police had
come and gone and you were at home, what was
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going through your mind? What if anything, did you do
to try to find Haley. We called everyone we knew,
we contacted every single person that we knew on Facebook,
every single person that had anything to do with her.
And I grew up in foster care. So my mentality
was that she was she'd run away with a friend
and she was going to go have fun for a weekend,
and that she was going to be back in a
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few days. The cops would find her. She's not street smart,
she's not capable of living on the streets and not
getting caught by police. So my mentality was that she
would be home in a couple of days and the
cops would find her. Do you guys have a security
system with cameras? We do. It's yes, no cameras, but
it's there. There's a camera on the front door. There's
a camera. And so let me ask you, did you
(24:35):
review the surreillance video we did? What did you say?
It doesn't record all the time, and the last footage
that had been captured was from two days ago and
it was Haley walking down the stairs to go make
cereal in the morning. Darn darn. Okay, so you're hoping,
against hope that she has just gone away with friends.
(24:55):
Do they take her? Does she have devices like an
iPad or an iPhone she did, but that this is
kind of complicated. She did have phones that they were
not ours, like we had not given them to her.
She had gotten phones from friends because we did. We
limited her internet access like the freaking Guantanamo Bay. She
was not allowed any Yeah. Yeah, let Tony talk about this.
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Go ahead, Yeah, I break in for a moment. Yeah.
I had recognized some behavior and my daughter that that
was troubling to me. I saw some behavior that I
felt like was was off, and I felt like she
might need to talk to someone. I could see signs.
She was dressing up in pigtails and using bottles, and
there were things that were I was I could tell
(25:38):
someone was leading her to different behavior that I wasn't encouraging,
and so I started to control. I mean, we were
already controlling her internet access to some degree, and we
were in her phone was limited. Okay, white a minute?
White a minute? White a minute? Who waa white? White?
Jackie Howard here in the studio has this question, do
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you believe that this guy, Michael Weiselovski was telling her
what to do to dress differently, to act differently. Yes,
we know he was absolutely, Yeah to Stephen Lampley detective
at Stephen Lampley dot com. When cops get a hold
of say a laptop, a phone, um or if they
don't get the phone, can't they subpoena the any activity
(26:24):
on those phones, on that iPad or a laptop, most
definitely And I have done that many many many times.
You you certainly can do You certainly can. Yes, So
Anthony and Shawna did she have a laptop or an iPad?
Know she did, but not that she communicated with him
on this And this is just side note. All of
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the communications that happened between her and him happened at
school on her school cromepad that was issued by the pool.
They were stars both the time. But yeah, and we
have got like we've not discussed this part of it
because we don't like, we don't harbor any ill will
towards the school. But it is so the school gave
(27:07):
her a chrome pad. She had an i EP, which
is an Individualized education plan because she special needs. One
of those accommodations was she's never to be online unsupervised,
and yet she's still communicating with this grown man. She's
printing out pornographic images in the school library. Did this
They did not monitor it like it should. How did
this guy sign in? How my pro ana chap website?
(27:33):
It is a website for people that have anorexia that
don't want to hide it, that don't want to go
get help for it, that want to keep their anorexia
and are proud of it. And and the reason why
he said, did what white? Wait, I'm drinking out of
a fire hydrant here. It's just too much. It wants white.
She's in an anorexia chat room. And are you saying
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that it's for people that are proud of being anteraxic. Yes,
it's for people that don't. They don't want to hide it.
It's pro anna, it's my pro anna. So it's pro anorexia.
Do they want to get well? Do they want to
get well? They don't see hold on, they don't see
anything problem. They don't see a problem with an anorexia,
and they don't feel like it. It's it's a life choice,
(28:16):
just like your sexuality is a life choice. They choose
to believe that their innorexia is a lifestyle choice and
that is their right to have. Can I tell you
something already? At school? And Lucy's in the fifth grade,
fifth grade, okay, there this started when she was ten,
or I found out about it when she was ten.
There is a group of girls, I call them in
(28:38):
a euphemistic way, the lettuce leaf bunch, get it bunch,
and all they eat at aged ten, I didn't even
know what a salad was at age ten. Okay, my
mom gave us vegetables every day, but not a salad.
What kid wants to eat a salad with? Like, we've
got a great on it. But anyway, all these little
(28:59):
girls eat, they have some lettuce on their plate. I said,
Lucy Lynch, do not do not. And then I pop
in when I can unannounced, to see what she's eating.
I know exactly what time they're having lunch. I don't
tell her. That's why I'm there. I go and go, Hi,
I love you, and leave, but I see her plate.
So anorexia can start very early, and this freak disperv
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knows to go on like a girl's anorexic website chat
room Anthony Well, and if I could, I mean, it
wasn't that Hayley felt like she was anorexic. It was
that she didn't know what was wrong with her and
was trying to find discover through her own means and
self diagnosed so that she could change all the bad
things that kept happening to her. So she's out in
(29:48):
an anorexia support group trying to figure out if maybe
that has something to do with their problems, and then
she bumps into this guy who's in his thirties, who
has been in this chat room before and has met
other women, and has then taken advantage of that relationship
by saying he's a mentor that can help them, as
opposed to someone who is going to then take advantage
(30:11):
of them, which is what ultimately happened, not only in
my daughter's case, but in several others. Prime stories you have.
Nancy Grace, the seventeen year old, disappeared from her home
(30:34):
back on May twenty, twenty sixteen. Her family told us
then she has Asperger syndrome and left home without her medication.
Last year, her family told NBC Charlotte they tried to
limit their daughter's use of the computer after discovering she
had been talking to strangers online. According to the Observer,
Burne's father said she left a diary behind that detailed
a plan to run away with a thirty two year
(30:54):
old man she met online. Her family says she did
not have a cell phone, but still they believe she
was able to communicate with someone and left to meet
that person with me right now. Shauna and Anthony Burns,
the mom and dad of Helly Troy Slayton, California, defense
lawyer Stephen Lampley detective at Stephen Lampley dot com. You
know ek Ellen Claurain crime online dot com. I remember
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sitting down. I know you remember this too, with who
I now considered to be a friend, Alicia Kozlowski. I'm
sure I just butchered her last name. And she was
lured online at about age twelve thirteen out of her home.
The family was having this nice, big post Christmas dinner.
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It was over the holiday, and she had been talking
to what she thought was another little girl online. Then
the little girl admitted, Hey, I'm really a boy. I
thought you wouldn't talk to me, blah blah, And they've
been talking for months and months. He goes, let's meet
come outside. I'm outside. She goes outside. She's immediately kidnapped
in a car by a grown man, held hostage, and
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barely escaped with her life. My point is Eka They
also met in a chat room. So what can you
tell me, Ellen Klaurin, about how this complete pervert Michael
Wasilowski mates little Haley Burns. Well, this predator is on
a chat room that is frequented by young women who
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are dealing with a vulnerable situation, and so he knows
exactly what he's doing. And as you point out, Nancy,
anyone can pretend to be anyone or be a certain
type of person when they're online. And this predator spent
a long time grooming Haley. And this was not something
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that happened overnight. And I'm learning some new details from
Haley's parents about the fact that he has done this before,
which doesn't surprise me at all. But this predator knew
exactly what he was doing. He took advantage of a vulnerability,
and he kept communicating with her and tricked her into
believing that he would safe and he was her friends
and Stephen Lampley Detective Stephen Lampley dot com, we find
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so many instances h kidnap and false imprisonment based on guys.
They're like wolves finding victims in chat rooms. I mean,
this is by far not the first case I've heard of.
Steve it's actually an epidemic. I spent a good amount
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of time in the latter part of my career. I
know it's hard for you to imagine, but I was
a fourteen year old girl online and Nancy, I would okay, Yea,
that is that I didn't I'd expect that to come
out of your mouth when you said this is hard
for you to imagine. I was thinking when man to
find witnesses. I've been in every strip club in town,
every crack house, every dump, you name it. But when
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you said I was a fourteen year fourteen year old girl,
I did not imagine that you got me, Stephen. But
I would get online and the chat rooms Nancy that
I get on were not sexually related that they were
generic chat rooms Nancy. And there were times I would
get on on the end the chat room and in
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a span of less than thirty seconds, I would have
mine to twelve adults talking to me, knowing full well
that I was a juvenile because of my chat room name.
They readily recognized that as being a juvenil, and they
lashed on me in record time. Now, Anthony and Shawna,
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I hate for you to even hear this, to think
your little girl. You were doing all this to protect her.
Then she goes to school where they give her a
chromebook and she meets this guy. I've learned that some
of the behavior that she was exhibiting, and you knew
something was way wrong. She was suddenly started using a
pacifier and calling somebody online daddy. Yes, I didn't know that, yep,
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Oh dear Lord, haven't, Oh dear Lord. I found a
lot of signs. But at the same time, you know,
she was in therapy, and the therapists were essentially saying
if she uses a pacifier, it's perhaps to help comfort her.
So I was watching the behavior and bringing it up,
but at the same time, you know, wanted her to
feel okay to express herself as well. So tell me
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when you first got any inkling where she was and
when you first heard the name Michael wi Slovsky Shanna.
It was on June twenty three, is about eight forty
seven at night. Tony and I had just sat down
to watch a movie and we had gotten Showmarch, which
is a local restaurant here in Charlotte, were just getting
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ready to eat and I got a Facebook message from
a woman I did not know in Romania. And she said,
are you the mother of Haley Burns And I responded
back and I said yes, and she said I'm in
communication with her safe and she wants to come home,
to which we had been informed by the FBI to
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be very careful because people will call you and say,
I know where your kid is, but you have to
give me money. Psychic people will try to take advantage
of you. So I was a lot more skeptical, let's say,
than Tony was. Tony was like, oh my god, it's
her they sent. She sent a picture of Haley, and
Tony was like, that's definitely her. But I still needed
more I needed. I said, ask Hayley something that only
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Haley would know. And I have a dent in my
head from when I was hit in the head of
the hammer when I was a kid. Very few people
know that. And Haley said, tell my mom. She has
a big dent in her head from a hammer. And
that is what I knew immediately, that is my daughter.
And it was like an old fashioned game of telephone
because Haley is chatting on a chat room with this
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woman in Romania. The woman in Romania is on a
tablet with me face timing. I am on. I am
communicating with my voice to Tony who's on his phone
with Pete or agent contact, who, by the way, was
at Disney with his family on vacation when all of
this happened, and he stepped up in the middle of
everything and didn't We felt so bad, but he was
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so happy to do it, even though he was on
vacation with his family at Disney. And then Pete was
on his phone with the detectives in Georgia, so every
question took five minutes to ask for them to ask Pete,
to ask Tony, to ask me, to ask her to
ask Hayley. So the process took a little longer than normal.
But after about fifteen minutes we had established that it
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was Haley and we were then just trying to establish
where she was. But she did not know where she was.
She said, she said, I'm in a brick a two
story brick building in Georgia, and that's all we knew.
Here is Alison Latto's WSOCTV lawrence reveal the level of
abuse Charlatein endured while being held captive in Georgia for
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more than a year. The documents stay that Michael Weislovsky
can find Haley Burns enough stairs bedroom of his Duluth home,
telling her that she would be arrested if she left.
Wisulovsky reportedly controlled every aspect of his seventeen year old
captive's life, keeping a food journal detailing how many calories
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she'd eaten each day, and withholding food from Haley if
he thought she'd eaten too many calories the day before.
Doctors at the Atlanta Hospital who examined Haley after she
was rescued, determined she was suffering from malnutrition. According to Warrens,
Her parents told Channel nine she lost fifteen to twenty pounds.
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Haileyburns disappeared from her Valentine home in May of twenty sixteen.
This past weekend, the FBI responded to a tip and
tracked her to a home in Georgia. Nancy Grace Crime
Stories signing off goodbye friend
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, a gut wretching plea tonight
from a father desperate to find his daughter. Sixteen year
old Haley Burns disappeared from her Valentine home Sunday night.
She has aspergers, and her family says she left with
a man she met online, who they believe is twice
her age. She has not been heard from since. I
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don't think she realizes how much she's loved, but there
are a lot of people out here that really want
her home. A teen girl goes missing and we learn
the worst. We learned that she has been held in
captivity in a cage for over a year. I want justice,
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I mean see Grace. This is Crime Stories. Take a
listen to our friend Syriah Blake Morgan at wb TV.
Verywhere you look in this Valentine neighborhood, you'll see the
face of a girl who lives here until her parents
say she chose to lead. You can't understand how it
feels until you're in it. Philey's father, Anthony Byrne, says
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his sixteen year old vanished from her bedroom Sunday night.
My wife opened the door and she was not there.
She left a diary behind that, Anthony says, detailed a
plan to run away with a thirty two year old
she met online. He gradually wormed his way into her
good graces. He coerced her to start listening to him
(01:37):
and not following our direction. How did it happen? How
did a teen girl end up being held in captivity
for over a year, being denied food, being subjected to
water torture. Why? And in a stunning, stunning blow to
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Lady Justice, the guy who makes off with her, Michael Wislovski,
is walking free. Let's start at the beginning. But I
want to introduce to you Helly, the victim in this case,
the teen girl mother, Shawna Burns and her father, Anthony Burns,
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both joining us today, and I think I've got a
lot to learn from them. With me. Troy Slayton, renowned
California defense lawyer. Stephen Lampley detective. You can find him
at Stephen Lampley dot com, ellen Clorian Crime online dot com,
investigative reporter. Let's start with Halley's mother, Shauna Burns. Tell
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me about the moment you discover, Helly, your little girl
is gone. You know, your little girl was just a
couple of years older than my twins. And after studying
Hally's case yesterday and the investigative five, can I tell
you once again I slept in their room last night
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and just stared at them up all night. I'm so
distraught about Haley, Seana. When did you realize Haley was gone?
I went in. It was a Monday morning, and I
went in to get her up for school. Haley went
to a school that was out of our district, so
it was about a two hour drive. So it's about
five thirty in the morning, so it was dark in
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the house. No one else was awake, and I went
into her room and wait, wait, wait, So it's five
thirty in the morning. Okay, it has to still be
dark outside, miss Burns. So you're saying you walked up
to her bed and she wasn't there. What did you do?
First of all, where is she normally at five thirty
in the morning in her bed? She's sleeping in her bed.
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Does she sleep with a night light? No, So you
can walk in and you can see immediately whether she's
in the bed. Yeah, yeah, I immediately knew she was
not in her bed. What did you do at that moment?
I started searching other places in the house that I
thought she might have moved to, like the couch or
sometimes she sleeps, and that we have another bed in
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another room that she sleeps in. So I started searching
all of the reasonable places that she could have moved
to in the middle of the night to sleep. And
after quickly going through those places, I started frantically searching
everywhere in the house. I even looked inside of my minivan,
thinking that she might have gone to sleep in there.
(04:27):
And after about a minute, I just got a visual
of you right now outside in the dark. Because when
I load up the minivan in the morning, it's always
still dark outside. And the first couple of times I
would go outside and I think, oh my goodness, it's cold,
it's dark, and I'd run to the card load up
all the twins stuff, and i'd run back in. But
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now it's a blessing. I go out and I'll look
up at the stars and I think about all my
blessings and what has turned turned from a chore into
a blessing. And I'm imagining you going, Okay, so she's
on the sofa, You go to the sofa. She's not
on the sofa. You go to the spare bedroom. She's
(05:10):
not in there. You go look in the bathroom. Is
she in there? No, she's not. Go look at the
bed again. Okay, she's not in the blankets. I was right.
Then you're outside looking in the mini van. What was
going through your mind? What feelings were pulsing through your body?
She has to be here somewhere, She has to be
here somewhere. I just have to find her. That was
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the idea that she had left, or that she wasn't
here never even crossed my mind. I knew that she
was here and I just had to find her. So
I searched the entire house. Pretty big house, so it
took me about thirty forty minutes to do that. And
then after searching every square into the house and establishing
that she wasn't here, that's when I woke my husband
(05:54):
up and I came into our bedroom and I said,
Tony Hayley's not here. And he immediately jumped out of
bed and said, what do you mean is that she's
not here? And so we both started separately. We separated,
and we just started systematically searching every square inch of
this house. Oh my stars, Shauna, I've got chills all
(06:16):
over my body right now. In faith, I felt a
wave of nausea when you said I just can't look
at him because I thought she's got to be here. Well,
of course she has to be there. And you know,
I've told a story a million times about when my
son John David went missing and the babies or us,
but ever since that, and because the nature of my business,
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when I can't find them, when they're not where they're
supposed to be, I immediately get distraught. To Anthony Burns,
this is Helly's dad. Do you remember that moment that
Shauna comes out. I'm sure it's still dark, probably getting
now around six six fifteen. What happened in your mind?
What's your recollection? I? Um, you know, even sitting here
(07:03):
right now, I'm tearing up a little bit, Nancy, because um,
as a parent, you never you know, my daughter never
tried to run away before, or never been lured away before.
It's a better way to put it. Um, you know,
as soon as my wife, I'm so glad you just
said that. That's got to be clear. This child did
(07:23):
not run away. She was lured by an online predator.
She is a child in the eyes of the law.
And when your wife grabbed you by the shoulder out
of a deep sleep and said, Healey is gone. What
(07:44):
went through your mind? Anthony? I literally I heard the
distress in her voice. It was something I had never
heard before. I literally jumped out of the bed onto
one foot, and I remember I think I twisted my ankles.
I jumped out, but I ran out of bed and
I went to her bedroom. I couldn't see her in there.
I was just kind of waking up, and I went downstairs.
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As I went downstairs, I looked at our front door,
and the front door was unlocked, and it was a
little bit left adrift. And at that point I knew,
take a listen to our friend Siaha Blake Morgan at WBTV.
Police are investigating, but Byrne says they don't have any
real leads on the man he believes took his daughter.
(08:26):
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thirty two, he could be fifty five and running a
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Time Stories with Nancy Grace. A teen girl suffering with
Asperger's is lured out of her home. Take a listen
to Aerial Placincia WCNC Charlotte. The seventeen year old disappeared
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from her home back on May twenty third, twenty sixteen.
Her family told us then she has Asperger syndrome and
left home without her medication. Last year, her family told
NBC Charlotte they tried to limit their daughter's use of
the computer after discovering she had been talking to stream online.
According to The Observer, Burne's father said she left a
diary behind the detailed a plan to run away with
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a thirty two year old man she met online. Her
family says she did not have a cell phone, but
still they believe she was able to communicate with someone
and left to meet that person. A teen girl lured
out of her home that with the safety of her
mother and father where they watch over her taking a
two hour trek every morning to a special school to
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help Haley Burns to help her achieve, to help her
succeed to just push her one inch further in life,
doing everything they can to help her so she can
be happy in life after they're gone. And then one morning,
(11:49):
five thirty am, Mom Seana goes in to find Haley
is gone. The two ransack the house, the yard, the
men even and no heally and with me right now.
In addition Detroit Slayton, Stephen Lampley, and Ellen Klauren Helely's parents,
Shawna and Anthony Burns. Anthony, you were just telling me
(12:13):
that you are searching frantically. You've twisted your ankle jumping
out of bed. You're looking for her. Well, you know
the next thing is we've got two other children, and
you know we don't want to distress them because we
know that we've got a very major problem on her hands.
I go up to her room, I actually look in
her bed, and at that point I realized that the
(12:34):
only thing left in her bed are a big pile
of stuffed animals where she should have been sleeping. When
you see that door unlocked and slightly a jar, what
goes through your mind? I knew she was gone. With
it with my wife coming in and telling me that
she wasn't where she should be. And that was extremely unusual,
as was the fact that my front door was open,
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which you know, I locked the door every night. I
knew someone had left through the front door. Either someone
had come in the front door or someone had walked
out of the front door. I didn't know at that point.
You know what, You know what, Anthony. I'm almost through
with a book I'm writing called Don't Be a Victim,
Fighting Back against America's Crime Wave, and one of the
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chapters is safe at Home. And I've studied and studied
and studied. I've prosecuted. I can't even tell you how many,
literally thousands of cases of home burglaries, kidnaps, you name it.
That's one of the main things I know. It sounds
so simple. Lock your doors and windows. I mean, I
(13:37):
got fifty other chips. But when you saw that door
unlocked and slightly ajar If I saw that, I would
know immediately because before I go to bed every night,
even though my husband has already checked it, I rechecked
the entire house. I checked the alarm, I checked the windows,
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I checked the car outside, I check the garage, everything,
And it doesn't take long. You just do a walk
through by now, I can look at a door at
fifteen feet and I can tell if the deadbolt is
on by which way it's turned. I mean, so you
do that every single night, Yes, every single night. And
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we have three doors. I lock them all. I make
sure every wind is closed, you know, for air conditioning reasons.
I mean, you know, we pay for pay for what
we don't we consume. So I make sure the house.
I have a system every single day. And can I
just ask you, out of curiosity, neither here nor there,
what's your system? Okay? My system of checking the house
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is I basically, will I clean up everything right before
I go to bed. I make sure all the dishes
are done and everything else, like we all do to
the kids. When they get up, they walk into a
nice clean environment. And then I go through each door systematically,
usually our garage, make sure it's closed. Okay. Can I
just stop you again, Anthony, I do the same exact thing.
I cannot stand to walk get up and walk in.
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I get about five five thirty every morning, and cms
I don't think the children or my husband, definitely not
my husband. But if it were a pigsty, they'd walk
through and they wouldn't notice the thing I'm guaranteeing you that,
but it would push push me over the edge. So
every night, the dan the kitchen that everything has to
be in place, and Nate, yes, yes, absolutely, So if
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I see one thing at a place the next morning,
I know something went haywire. I mean, I'm not clean
freak about it, but but but I like things to
be a certain way so that the kids have the
same exact experience, you know, and the expectation every day
that life starts the same way that they like. Well,
they love it that way. I want to interrupt here
because jump in Shot are twins. One of our twins
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has autism and they are very routine driven. They are
very routine from him. So he sets everything up at
night so that I have an easy morning when I
give them up. Our routine is easy to follow because
he's set us up for it the night before. So
it's not so much that he's really particular, it's just
it because of our routine driven child. We have a
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pretty strict routine and he is not like he checks it.
He does it every night. You know what, Shauna, I'm
learning something from you. I'm learning something from you because
I always say to my husband we have to keep
them in a routine, a routine. They got to know
that on Monday, this happens. Tuesday, this happens. When they
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wake up, this happens, they go to bed this time.
Blah blah. Although I slide on the bedtime because it's
a foundation, a security thing that you know, you understand
your life is not chaos. But you guys have Halley
with Asperger's. I did not know one of your twins
was autistic as well. All of our routine is so important, Shanna,
(17:00):
of our one of them has Asperger's and the others
has autism and haliols. Yeah, all three of our kids
are on the spectrum and routine is And I grew
up in foster care, so I grew up in a
very chaotic, no stability situation. So I understand the importance
of stability for children and knowing how safe and how
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important it is for them to feel safe in order
to be safe. So that's one of the reasons why.
And we are so routine driven in all you just
and if I could break in, I grew up in
a very very conservative, very you know, strong family background
that taught me, you know that to have kind of
a system and a structure for each day, and that
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you know, do everything a certain way and things work out.
That's what I was always taught. You know, it's just
actually bringing me to tears. And it's Troy Slight in
California Defense Attorney. Um, you have children? Are you hearing
this about routine? And what's so ironic is Shanna and
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Anthony go to such great links to try to make
everything just right to raise their children with these challenges
that they have Asperger's autism, and then the worst happens, Troy,
I mean, weigh in on how they're trying to raise them. Nancy,
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my heart breaks for them. I too have two children,
and although they're not on the autism spectrum, like they're
fine children, I do the same exact thing. We're getting
the kitchen ready every night, trying to do a routine
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and raise them the best that we can. And then
to have something as horrific as having your child be gone,
I can't even imagine. I I can't imagine what they've
betten through the yellow ribbons on each mailbox on Baldwin
Hall Drive starting to fade as a days turned into weeks,
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weeks turning into months more than a year would buy
with no sign of Haley. But this community ever gave
up hope. It kind of died down On the law
enforcement side, I know they they just kept pushing through.
No investigators haven't said how Haley and Wisulovsky met, but
her parents said she'd been talking to strangers online and
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tried to limit her access not long before she would
miss it. It's scary because this is a good area,
and it just shows that it can happen to anybody,
which makes it even scarier. It was the worst feeling
you could ever imagine. You feel completely out of control.
You don't know what to do, you just panic. This
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is the worst nightmare that any parent could ever expect. Guys,
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right now. Shauna and Anthony Burns the mom and dad
of Haley. Troy Slayton, California defense lawyer Stephen Lampley detective
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Investigative reporter Ellen Klaurin. Take a listen to our friend
Sarah Blake Morgan at WBTV. A gut wrenching plea tonight
from a father desperate to find his daughter. A sixteen
year old Haley Burns disappeared from her Valentine home Sunday night.
She has aspergers, and her family says she left with
a man she met online who they believe is twice
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her age. She has not been heard from since. Our
Sarah Blake Morgan has more on this family's fear and
warning to others. I don't think she realizes how much
she's loved, but there are a lot of people out
here that really want her home. You can't understand how
it feels till you're in it. Haley's father, Anthony Byrne,
says his sixteen year old vanished from her bedroom Sunday night.
My wife opened the door and she was not there.
(22:49):
Police are investigating, but Byrne says they don't have any
real leads. One the man he believes took his daughter.
There's no telling who he is. He might not be
thirty two, he could be fifty five and a human
trafficking organization. There's no tell, Shawna and Anthony to you, Shawna,
So after you determined she's gone, what do you do? Well,
(23:10):
we have two other children in the home that we
did not want to upset. So the first thing that
we did was we got them up early, earlier than usual.
We got them up, we went for our routeam, we
brushed our teeth, we got them at their bookbacks, we
got them to school. The second that they got out
of the van, I called nine one one and said,
we need to get police here, because at that point
we still didn't know what had happened. We just knew
(23:31):
she was missing. So by the time I got home
from dropping them off at the school, which is five
minutes away, Tony was already here. The police were on
their way, and then from them, the investigation began. Now
let me ask you this that night, after police had
come and gone and you were at home, what was
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going through your mind? What if anything, did you do
to try to find Haley. We called everyone we knew,
we contacted every single person that we knew on Facebook,
every single person that had anything to do with her.
And I grew up in foster care. So my mentality
was that she was she'd run away with a friend
and she was going to go have fun for a weekend,
and that she was going to be back in a
(24:13):
few days. The cops would find her. She's not street smart,
she's not capable of living on the streets and not
getting caught by police. So my mentality was that she
would be home in a couple of days and the
cops would find her. Do you guys have a security
system with cameras? We do. It's yes, no cameras, but
it's there. There's a camera on the front door. There's
a camera. And so let me ask you, did you
(24:35):
review the surreillance video we did? What did you say?
It doesn't record all the time, and the last footage
that had been captured was from two days ago and
it was Haley walking down the stairs to go make
cereal in the morning. Darn darn. Okay, so you're hoping,
against hope that she has just gone away with friends.
(24:55):
Do they take her? Does she have devices like an
iPad or an iPhone she did, but that this is
kind of complicated. She did have phones that they were
not ours, like we had not given them to her.
She had gotten phones from friends because we did. We
limited her internet access like the freaking Guantanamo Bay. She
was not allowed any Yeah. Yeah, let Tony talk about this.
(25:18):
Go ahead, Yeah, I break in for a moment. Yeah.
I had recognized some behavior and my daughter that that
was troubling to me. I saw some behavior that I
felt like was was off, and I felt like she
might need to talk to someone. I could see signs.
She was dressing up in pigtails and using bottles, and
there were things that were I was I could tell
(25:38):
someone was leading her to different behavior that I wasn't encouraging,
and so I started to control. I mean, we were
already controlling her internet access to some degree, and we
were in her phone was limited. Okay, white a minute?
White a minute? White a minute? Who waa white? White?
Jackie Howard here in the studio has this question, do
(25:59):
you believe that this guy, Michael Weiselovski was telling her
what to do to dress differently, to act differently. Yes,
we know he was absolutely, Yeah to Stephen Lampley detective
at Stephen Lampley dot com. When cops get a hold
of say a laptop, a phone, um or if they
don't get the phone, can't they subpoena the any activity
(26:24):
on those phones, on that iPad or a laptop, most
definitely And I have done that many many many times.
You you certainly can do You certainly can. Yes, So
Anthony and Shawna did she have a laptop or an iPad?
Know she did, but not that she communicated with him
on this And this is just side note. All of
(26:45):
the communications that happened between her and him happened at
school on her school cromepad that was issued by the pool.
They were stars both the time. But yeah, and we
have got like we've not discussed this part of it
because we don't like, we don't harbor any ill will
towards the school. But it is so the school gave
(27:07):
her a chrome pad. She had an i EP, which
is an Individualized education plan because she special needs. One
of those accommodations was she's never to be online unsupervised,
and yet she's still communicating with this grown man. She's
printing out pornographic images in the school library. Did this
They did not monitor it like it should. How did
this guy sign in? How my pro ana chap website?
(27:33):
It is a website for people that have anorexia that
don't want to hide it, that don't want to go
get help for it, that want to keep their anorexia
and are proud of it. And and the reason why
he said, did what white? Wait, I'm drinking out of
a fire hydrant here. It's just too much. It wants white.
She's in an anorexia chat room. And are you saying
(27:54):
that it's for people that are proud of being anteraxic. Yes,
it's for people that don't. They don't want to hide it.
It's pro anna, it's my pro anna. So it's pro anorexia.
Do they want to get well? Do they want to
get well? They don't see hold on, they don't see
anything problem. They don't see a problem with an anorexia,
and they don't feel like it. It's it's a life choice,
(28:16):
just like your sexuality is a life choice. They choose
to believe that their innorexia is a lifestyle choice and
that is their right to have. Can I tell you
something already? At school? And Lucy's in the fifth grade,
fifth grade, okay, there this started when she was ten,
or I found out about it when she was ten.
There is a group of girls, I call them in
(28:38):
a euphemistic way, the lettuce leaf bunch, get it bunch,
and all they eat at aged ten, I didn't even
know what a salad was at age ten. Okay, my
mom gave us vegetables every day, but not a salad.
What kid wants to eat a salad with? Like, we've
got a great on it. But anyway, all these little
(28:59):
girls eat, they have some lettuce on their plate. I said,
Lucy Lynch, do not do not. And then I pop
in when I can unannounced, to see what she's eating.
I know exactly what time they're having lunch. I don't
tell her. That's why I'm there. I go and go, Hi,
I love you, and leave, but I see her plate.
So anorexia can start very early, and this freak disperv
(29:26):
knows to go on like a girl's anorexic website chat
room Anthony Well, and if I could, I mean, it
wasn't that Hayley felt like she was anorexic. It was
that she didn't know what was wrong with her and
was trying to find discover through her own means and
self diagnosed so that she could change all the bad
things that kept happening to her. So she's out in
(29:48):
an anorexia support group trying to figure out if maybe
that has something to do with their problems, and then
she bumps into this guy who's in his thirties, who
has been in this chat room before and has met
other women, and has then taken advantage of that relationship
by saying he's a mentor that can help them, as
opposed to someone who is going to then take advantage
(30:11):
of them, which is what ultimately happened, not only in
my daughter's case, but in several others. Prime stories you have.
Nancy Grace, the seventeen year old, disappeared from her home
(30:34):
back on May twenty, twenty sixteen. Her family told us
then she has Asperger syndrome and left home without her medication.
Last year, her family told NBC Charlotte they tried to
limit their daughter's use of the computer after discovering she
had been talking to strangers online. According to the Observer,
Burne's father said she left a diary behind that detailed
a plan to run away with a thirty two year
(30:54):
old man she met online. Her family says she did
not have a cell phone, but still they believe she
was able to communicate with someone and left to meet
that person with me right now. Shauna and Anthony Burns,
the mom and dad of Helly Troy Slayton, California, defense
lawyer Stephen Lampley detective at Stephen Lampley dot com. You
know ek Ellen Claurain crime online dot com. I remember
(31:17):
sitting down. I know you remember this too, with who
I now considered to be a friend, Alicia Kozlowski. I'm
sure I just butchered her last name. And she was
lured online at about age twelve thirteen out of her home.
The family was having this nice, big post Christmas dinner.
(31:38):
It was over the holiday, and she had been talking
to what she thought was another little girl online. Then
the little girl admitted, Hey, I'm really a boy. I
thought you wouldn't talk to me, blah blah, And they've
been talking for months and months. He goes, let's meet
come outside. I'm outside. She goes outside. She's immediately kidnapped
in a car by a grown man, held hostage, and
(32:00):
barely escaped with her life. My point is Eka They
also met in a chat room. So what can you
tell me, Ellen Klaurin, about how this complete pervert Michael
Wasilowski mates little Haley Burns. Well, this predator is on
a chat room that is frequented by young women who
(32:22):
are dealing with a vulnerable situation, and so he knows
exactly what he's doing. And as you point out, Nancy,
anyone can pretend to be anyone or be a certain
type of person when they're online. And this predator spent
a long time grooming Haley. And this was not something
(32:42):
that happened overnight. And I'm learning some new details from
Haley's parents about the fact that he has done this before,
which doesn't surprise me at all. But this predator knew
exactly what he was doing. He took advantage of a vulnerability,
and he kept communicating with her and tricked her into
believing that he would safe and he was her friends
and Stephen Lampley Detective Stephen Lampley dot com, we find
(33:06):
so many instances h kidnap and false imprisonment based on guys.
They're like wolves finding victims in chat rooms. I mean,
this is by far not the first case I've heard of.
Steve it's actually an epidemic. I spent a good amount
(33:27):
of time in the latter part of my career. I
know it's hard for you to imagine, but I was
a fourteen year old girl online and Nancy, I would okay, Yea,
that is that I didn't I'd expect that to come
out of your mouth when you said this is hard
for you to imagine. I was thinking when man to
find witnesses. I've been in every strip club in town,
every crack house, every dump, you name it. But when
(33:49):
you said I was a fourteen year fourteen year old girl,
I did not imagine that you got me, Stephen. But
I would get online and the chat rooms Nancy that
I get on were not sexually related that they were
generic chat rooms Nancy. And there were times I would
get on on the end the chat room and in
(34:12):
a span of less than thirty seconds, I would have
mine to twelve adults talking to me, knowing full well
that I was a juvenile because of my chat room name.
They readily recognized that as being a juvenil, and they
lashed on me in record time. Now, Anthony and Shawna,
(34:35):
I hate for you to even hear this, to think
your little girl. You were doing all this to protect her.
Then she goes to school where they give her a
chromebook and she meets this guy. I've learned that some
of the behavior that she was exhibiting, and you knew
something was way wrong. She was suddenly started using a
pacifier and calling somebody online daddy. Yes, I didn't know that, yep,
(35:02):
Oh dear Lord, haven't, Oh dear Lord. I found a
lot of signs. But at the same time, you know,
she was in therapy, and the therapists were essentially saying
if she uses a pacifier, it's perhaps to help comfort her.
So I was watching the behavior and bringing it up,
but at the same time, you know, wanted her to
feel okay to express herself as well. So tell me
(35:23):
when you first got any inkling where she was and
when you first heard the name Michael wi Slovsky Shanna.
It was on June twenty three, is about eight forty
seven at night. Tony and I had just sat down
to watch a movie and we had gotten Showmarch, which
is a local restaurant here in Charlotte, were just getting
(35:45):
ready to eat and I got a Facebook message from
a woman I did not know in Romania. And she said,
are you the mother of Haley Burns And I responded
back and I said yes, and she said I'm in
communication with her safe and she wants to come home,
to which we had been informed by the FBI to
(36:05):
be very careful because people will call you and say,
I know where your kid is, but you have to
give me money. Psychic people will try to take advantage
of you. So I was a lot more skeptical, let's say,
than Tony was. Tony was like, oh my god, it's
her they sent. She sent a picture of Haley, and
Tony was like, that's definitely her. But I still needed
more I needed. I said, ask Hayley something that only
(36:28):
Haley would know. And I have a dent in my
head from when I was hit in the head of
the hammer when I was a kid. Very few people
know that. And Haley said, tell my mom. She has
a big dent in her head from a hammer. And
that is what I knew immediately, that is my daughter.
And it was like an old fashioned game of telephone
because Haley is chatting on a chat room with this
(36:48):
woman in Romania. The woman in Romania is on a
tablet with me face timing. I am on. I am
communicating with my voice to Tony who's on his phone
with Pete or agent contact, who, by the way, was
at Disney with his family on vacation when all of
this happened, and he stepped up in the middle of
everything and didn't We felt so bad, but he was
(37:09):
so happy to do it, even though he was on
vacation with his family at Disney. And then Pete was
on his phone with the detectives in Georgia, so every
question took five minutes to ask for them to ask Pete,
to ask Tony, to ask me, to ask her to
ask Hayley. So the process took a little longer than normal.
But after about fifteen minutes we had established that it
(37:31):
was Haley and we were then just trying to establish
where she was. But she did not know where she was.
She said, she said, I'm in a brick a two
story brick building in Georgia, and that's all we knew.
Here is Alison Latto's WSOCTV lawrence reveal the level of
abuse Charlatein endured while being held captive in Georgia for
(37:54):
more than a year. The documents stay that Michael Weislovsky
can find Haley Burns enough stairs bedroom of his Duluth home,
telling her that she would be arrested if she left.
Wisulovsky reportedly controlled every aspect of his seventeen year old
captive's life, keeping a food journal detailing how many calories
(38:14):
she'd eaten each day, and withholding food from Haley if
he thought she'd eaten too many calories the day before.
Doctors at the Atlanta Hospital who examined Haley after she
was rescued, determined she was suffering from malnutrition. According to Warrens,
Her parents told Channel nine she lost fifteen to twenty pounds.
(38:35):
Haileyburns disappeared from her Valentine home in May of twenty sixteen.
This past weekend, the FBI responded to a tip and
tracked her to a home in Georgia. Nancy Grace Crime
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